[00:05] g'night all === cgunn is now known as Gunner_Sr [00:47] does anyone know where I can find a xpmlib package? [00:48] I tried apt-get, and no luck... [00:51] ? [00:51] more context would be useful. [00:52] i.e., libxpm4 certainly exists. [00:52] crimsum: let me check that... [00:53] crimsum: okay, already installed. [00:54] crimsum: is it installed in a non-standard location, as I am autoconfiguring and it says cannot find X? [00:54] crimsun: is it installed in a non-standard location, as I am autoconfiguring and it says cannot find X? [00:55] hmm? [00:55] * Gunner_Sr sorry crimsun [00:55] if you're attempting to compile something that requires xpm, you need libxpm-dev installed. [00:55] crimsun: let me check as well [00:56] crimsun: got it. [00:56] crimsun: it was already installed. [00:56] so please pastebin whatever command you're attempting that generates the error(s) [00:57] okay, how does pastebin work? [00:58] !paste [00:58] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:01] Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47064/ [01:02] Great. I have a stable automatic source packager. [01:02] All I have to do now is to debianize it... [01:02] * Gunner_Sr hiya jonnymind! [01:03] yo [01:03] Gunner_Sr: use the metapackage, libx11-dev [01:03] crimsun: okay, let me try that, thx [01:04] crimsun: also installed, this is weird? [01:05] Gunner_Sr: check config.log for where it's bailing [01:05] it's likely an extension [01:05] I have already created separate debs from the compiled source (deranged in the live development space), and it was lint, so it should be fast. [01:06] <`nobody> I have another question: I've packaged a patched version of network-manager-vpnc to include a patch that me and some coworkers were needing -- support for saving group passwords. I've commented on the open bug about this too, but would that kind of stuff usually go in the next release or in the current? what are the guidelines about when the bugs are being fixed? [01:06] I hope to have the deb things (source + binaries) tomorrow. Should I upload all the packages or only the source deb? [01:06] crimsun: cannot find a header called X11/Intrinsic.h? [01:07] `nobody: normaly only the next release [01:07] <`nobody> ok [01:08] Gunner_Sr: libxt-dev [01:08] <`nobody> that's fine -- i heard it needed approval/advocacy from developers too? [01:08] `nobody, please send it also to upstream [01:09] crimsun: getting it now, I think that could be it. [01:09] imbrandon: I think you forgot to update debian/config for the new flashplugin-nonfree [01:09] crimsun: thanks, that worked!! [01:09] ls [01:09] `nobody: send to upstream and the bug you speak of please subscribe ( not assign ) ubuntu universe sponsors [01:10] crimsun: likely, i'll look now [01:10] <`nobody> ok, i'll look at that. [01:12] crimsun: I go to make, now and get X11/Xmu/CurUtil.h: No such file or directory [01:12] crimsun: ahh yea i certainly did, thanks for the catch, fixing now [01:13] Gah. Is it a bug for arch: all packages to FTBFS on AMD64? [01:13] imbrandon: np, thanks. [01:14] Gunner_Sr: libxmu-headers [01:14] Gunner_Sr: please use apt-file or http://packages.ubuntu.com [01:14] crimsun: okay, thans. [01:14] crimsun: okay, thanks. [01:19] RAOF: I doubt it. [01:19] RAOF: Given only the i386 buildds will touch arch: all packages [01:19] I sign off. See you tomorrow, hopefully with a package :-( [01:19] *:-) [01:20] Goodnight. [01:20] StevenK: Yeah, fair enough. It's merely annoying :) [01:22] <`nobody> imbrandon: the patch wasn't written by me but by some developer on Redhat/Fedora, all I've done was repackage network-manager-vpnc with that patch that works from 0.6.4 to 0.7.0. The bug is already known upstream and some patches have been proposed, but the bug isn't closed yet. I'm subscribing ubuntu universe sponsors to the launchpad bug now [01:23] jonnymind: seeya [01:23] `nobody: okies, sounds like a good plane [01:23] plan* [01:23] `nobody, what is the answer of the upstream regarding this patch? [01:23] crimsun: fix uploaded, again thanks fo the catch [01:24] jdong: btw if you already poked pitti you might re-poke reguarding ubuntu2 :) [01:24] imbrandon: np. [01:25] <`nobody> giskard: unclear. the bug is still marked NEEDINFO, and last comment was on Nov 17, actually, the more i look and the less sure I am that this exact patch was posted. I'll have to md5 them or something to check [01:26] hah [01:26] `nobody, i think you have to poke upstream [01:26] imbrandon: you get dibs on bug 174276! [01:26] Launchpad bug 174276 in ubuntu "flashplugin-nonfree issue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174276 [01:27] * imbrandon looks [01:27] <`nobody> i'll comment and attach the patch to the bug, just to be sure. [01:28] crimsun: gee thanks :) [01:29] imbrandon: no prob. [01:29] hrm honetly i think its a bug that the package installs even if the md5/download fails [01:29] leading to situations like this [01:30] but obviously it was put there for a reason [01:34] well, arguably the wrapper/package itself is a bug [01:34] yea [01:35] Fujitsu: probably better to do a requestsync for sing since that's the only change in ubuntu. :) [01:35] i'm wondering what the resoning behind letting the package install though' [01:35] imbrandon: it can block other essential packages from installing if it fails [01:36] imbrandon: that's overkill, IMO [01:36] ahh [01:36] I didn't make that change in the source package, but I concur with its semantics in just that instance [01:37] yea, i agree there but it also causes this [01:37] heh [01:37] honestly, we ought to kill the package [01:37] it would just get imported from debian ( unless blacklisted ) [01:38] one con, however, is that doing so is only a benefit for firefox [01:38] AFAIK, neither opera nor konqueror provide a facility to install the latest stable non-Free Flash plugin [01:38] i think konq does now, leaste in kubuntu [01:38] i would have to confim though [01:38] firefox, however, has that plugin finder or whatnot [01:39] perhaps Konq does now; it didn't in 7.04 [01:39] (haven't tested 7.10) [01:39] right [01:39] tonio_ did some work on that front in .10 [01:39] afaik [01:40] i dont think its as robust as firefoxes though and relys on ubuntu packages, eg its not an upstream thing [01:41] hmm, yeah, that would be bitten if f-n were removed ;p [01:42] Neat. It's hailing [01:43] it has been snowing here [01:43] its supose to snow/freeze rain here tonight [01:44] crimsun: btw where are you now? heh [01:44] wasent you doing some traveling ? [01:44] it always snow in canada eh? [01:44] hey crimsun [01:45] if yall want a quick giggle at MS's expense : http://www.imbrandon.com/2007.12.05/debian-powers-the-world.html [01:45] imbrandon: DC momentarily. [01:45] crimsun: ahh [01:51] StevenK: Youch. [01:52] TheMuso: It is absolutely belting down over here, I suspect that the forefront to the thunderstorm was a few stray bits of hail [01:53] StevenK, TheMuso: You get all the fun :( [01:53] TheMuso: I apologise if you've already covered a11y WRT pulseaudio in Ubuntu 8.04, but if you have a "needs work," let's chat about it sometime soon. [01:54] RAOF: It pelted down over here for a good few hours, and my wife said "Oh, it rained in Bondi for about five minutes." [01:54] crimsun: I haven't yet. [01:54] still playing with stuff and pondering [01:54] StevenK: Yeah, it did a bit of raining here too. [01:54] Heya gang [01:54] heya bddebian [01:54] Yo! bddebian! [01:54] The problem is I want lunch. :-) [01:54] Hi imbrandon, RAOF [01:55] imbrandon: It just dawned on me. You don't have a brother named Kurt by any chance do you? :-) [01:55] bddebian: nope [01:55] y? [01:55] Anyone running gutsy on VT-extension-capable hardware want to test a kvm/bochs backport? [01:55] crimsun: I am hoping to use a package called speech-dispatcher in the future, which would replace gnome-speech. It supports output for oss, alsa, and pulseaudio, and works with several synths. [01:55] imbrandon: I was friends with a Kurt Holtsclaw at Purdue [01:56] I doubt I can get things ready for hardy, due to necessary upstream changes for orca, but certainly hardy+1. [01:56] So for now, I'm simply thinking of wrapping gnome-speech drivers in padsp. [01:56] TheMuso: ok, sounds good. [01:56] Anyone fluent in Spanish? [01:56] bddebian: ahh, could be family of some sort, i dont know any Holtsclaw's back past my father and uncles, e.g. my grandfather left my grandma and got remarried and had more kids etc [01:57] when my dad was 2 [01:57] TheMuso: I moved pulseaudio-utils from Suggests to Recommends for 0.9.8-1ubuntu1; we can attempt to add it to the desktop seed if you feel it's appropriate. [01:57] imbrandon: Well with my failing memory he could have spelled it with a z also. :-) [01:57] crimsun: I won't know till I've tested all gnome-speech drivers that users will want to use, and then the utils package will have to be a depend of gnome-speech anyway. [01:58] yea the z is another whole clan, heh, its funny though there is a "Holtsclaw and Kendal" law firm right next door to where i work too [01:58] here in KC [01:58] heh [01:58] TheMuso: *nod* [01:58] someday i'll pop in and be like "hey my names on the door" [01:58] :) [01:58] "Now give me a job" ;-P [01:58] lol [02:16] keescook: Oh, nice, we can pull CVEs from Debian now? === ember_ is now known as ember === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [04:05] Fujitsu: more like "see" CVEs from Debian... I needed a stopping point, so I committed what I had. [04:06] Fujitsu: I'm hoping to be able to populate either CVE tracker from the other... so far, it reads Ubuntu & Debian, and writes Ubuntu. Once I write debian writing, then we just have to finish the merge logic. :) [04:58] * Gunner_Sr good night everyone. [05:10] Amarok 2:1.4.7-2ubuntu2 is in dependency wait: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:1.4.7-2ubuntu2/+build/461819 [05:10] Missing Dependencies: libkarma-dev [05:11] So there needs to be an MIR for libkarma [05:12] So that's because it's in universe and amarok is in main? [05:13] Right [05:14] there is. i don't think anyone answered the questions on it though [05:38] Hobbsee: ugh, shouldend that have been done PRIOR to the amarok upload using it [05:38] heh [05:38] imbrandon: i didn't upload amarok last. aka: SEP [05:38] but, who *did* upload that? [05:40] hrm i should re-upload without that dep untill the MIR is fixed, looks like a very poor MIR [05:40] imbrandon: or you could just fix the MIR :) [05:40] imbrandon: looks like Riddell botched that merge as well. [05:40] it has other issues like a kernel module also [05:40] so it likely wont be approved soon [05:40] e.g. i will but i'll also fix the upload [05:41] cool, OK [05:41] imbrandon: fix some of the bugs too :) [05:42] sikon is working on the MIR, it appears [05:42] hehe i havent done any amarok bug fixing in a while [05:42] guess i should [05:42] yes, you should [05:42] sikon? new face [05:43] imprandon> I'm Sikon [05:43] ahh [05:43] The MIR was already on the wiki, I just filed the bug [05:43] afaik MIR's also need to be signed off on by a core-dev too before going into the que [05:43] leaste that used to be the case === Am|Birthday is now known as Amaranth [05:46] Hobbsee: hey, do you know of some good docs I can go through for dealing with packaging an unreleased project via bzr? [05:46] right now I end up getting a new branch, exporting it, make dist to create an orig tarball, copy over debian dir from last build [05:46] and then doing the changelog/debuild [05:47] rick_h_: bzr-buildpackage? [05:49] Hobbsee: ok, I see the wiki page for that now. I'll give that a shot it looks like [05:51] hey everyone :) [05:52] Damn kvm [05:53] I'd like to contribute some universe packages to REVU, however i'm unsure as to how my key should be added to the keyring, one wiki page states that simply need to join the Ubuntu Universe Contributors team on launchpad, another suggests emailing a GPG signed email to keyring@tiber.tauware.de, which is the correct method? [05:54] jscinoz: the former, and then ask to resync the revu keyring in here [05:54] where was that second piece of instruction? that's very old. [05:55] the second instruction was located at https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-upload.html [05:55] is located* [05:55] Anyways, I've joined the team, if its possible, could you resync the keyring? :) [06:00] resyncing [06:02] thank you [06:04] hmm i recall reading somewhere that enemy-territory needed packaging.. the engine and the data are under a closed-source but free to distribute license, but the anti-cheat software is under a license that forbids redistribution and yet if it isn't included, it likely won't work on the majority of servers >_< [06:05] looks like its got 2 very good reasons not to be in the archive then :) [06:07] hmm.. [06:15] does someone have the link for how the debian to ubuntu version numbers work, please? [06:17]

-ubuntu e.g. 0.1-2ubuntu3 [06:18] thx [06:46] i have debian version number if zero if it doesnt exist in debian? [06:46] ie enemyterritory_2.60b-0ubuntu1? [06:48] jscinoz: if the specific version or the package itself does not, yes [06:48] alright thanks :) [06:49] Hi everybody, I asked Daniel T Chen in this channel to upload a patch that I made for gnucash for hardy and it has been uploaded a month ago, but the package did fail to build for ia64 and ppc. [06:50] saivann: can you fix it? [06:50] Burgundavia : I'm not MOTU, so I don't know what I can do on this [06:50] you can provide another patch is you think you know what the problem is [06:51] Burgundavia : The only change I made with the latest patch was to change a dependency, is-it really the problem? [06:51] if it fails to build, a bug exists [06:52] saivann: check the build logs as to why it failed [06:52] Burgundavia : gnucash-docs was listed as "suggest" in the dependencies, and I changed this for "recommend" in order to get this automatically in a future version of ubuntu, the package didn't fail to build for i386 [06:52] heya Burgundavia [06:53] imbrandon : the build logs speaks about missing dependencies, let me look.. [06:53] hey imbrandon [06:55] imbrandon or Burgundavia : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10464693/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-ia64.gnucash_2.2.1-1ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [06:55] libgtkhtml3.8-dev: Depends: libgtkhtml3.8-15 (= 1:3.13.5-1) but it is not going to be installed [06:56] saivann: has that dep on ia64 since built ? [06:57] Hobbsee: Please give back gnucash on ia64/ppc. [06:57] there we go heh, i was trying to walk saivann though that :) [06:57] ia64/ppc are almost up to date, so it is very likely that a giveback will fix it. [06:57] Bah. [06:57] imbrandon : Possibly not, that's why I waited few weeks [06:58] Fujitsu: given back [06:58] saivann: probably fixed, check the next build log of it in ~24 hours ( depending on the buildd status ) [06:59] imbrandon : Thanks for your help [06:59] Hobbsee / Fujitsu : ^^ not me, i just talked [06:59] :) [06:59] hehe, yes ok thanks all :) [07:08] Fujitsu, just for you : http://xkcd.com/353/ [07:09] imbrandon: Is that the Python antigravity one? [07:09] yea [07:09] * Fujitsu has been pointed at that a few times today at work. [07:09] lol [07:12] Hey dholbach. [07:12] good morning [07:12] hey TheMuso [07:35] ugh nice [07:36] i update and gnome-panel crashes, reboot, now it wont start [07:36] coredumps are fun [07:36] guess it might be time to upgrade to hardy === LucidFox is now known as LucidFox_away === Adri2000_ is now known as Adri2000 [08:09] I wish my router had as good an uptime as my server. [08:36] RAOF, you here? [08:39] superm1: Yup. [08:39] Qué pasa? [08:39] RAOF, would you be able to do a quick test on a patch on amd64 for vlc's ftbfs? [08:39] * RAOF likes spouting random fragments from different languages. [08:39] Certainly. [08:40] okay, just to see if it makes it through (certainly not clean), around line 168 or so where it builds the x264 tree with -D__PIC__, can you add a --enable-pic [08:40] ( in debian/rules that is ) [08:41] Ah, OK. === _nuu is now known as nuu [08:41] So you want me to mangle my own source tree? You don't have a candidate package yet? [08:41] RAOF, well i pushed a 0.8.6.release.d-0ubuntu2 yesterday [08:41] and it built fine on all but amd64 [08:42] i didn't want to go through the work to make checks for if its amd64 if that doesn't fix it directly [08:42] Ha! We kill you, with our crazy nearly IA32ness. === macd_ is now known as macd === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:43] RAOF, some day i need to resurrect a box of mine that was amd64 but died so i dont need to bug you amd64 people all the time with things like this :) [08:43] Or ask for access to my buildbox. [08:43] that would work too :) [08:44] <\sh> moins [08:44] Dear lord, it has a very, very large number of configure flags :) [08:45] yeah those are directly for VLC [08:45] i'm referring to the ones for x264 [08:45] it does some hacky hacky stuff to build x264 in its tree too [08:45] superm1: Just to check: you're after the bit where it goes # Check that we've got an x264 tree... [08:45] er no.... [08:46] little later than that [08:46] Sorry, no. [08:46] er earlier i guess depending on where eyou grabbed that [08:46] i guess that part will work too [08:46] yeah right there should do [08:46] 140 or so? [08:46] At the ./configure stage of x264 :) [08:46] yeah [08:47] That's it? [08:48] --enable-pic there, then try a build? [08:50] yup [08:52] Started. [08:53] Ah, that well known shared library, firefox. [08:53] k great thanks === apache|mobile is now known as link === link is now known as apachelogger === LucidFox_away is now known as LucidFox [08:56] <\sh> does someone wants to fix squid? (bug #174352) [08:56] Launchpad bug 174352 in squid "[CVE-2007-6239] squid-2.X and squid-3.x are vulnerable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174352 [09:00] RAOF, i'm going to head to bed for a little bit. i'll watch for a message in the morning with how the build ended up. thanks again [09:02] superm1: K. [09:20] superm1: Builds fine. === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [09:24] <\sh> Fujitsu, cacti in gutsy is ok for 2007-311[23] [09:24] <\sh> but the others are still valid...fix them [10:00] cool .. my first bugfix is in the archive :D [10:00] Now I just have to figure out how to get it upstream [10:01] I usually send an email upstream with the patch attached [10:02] jpatrick: yes.. I think I will attach it to the email to the bugtracker === wpk is now known as bogiem === bogiem is now known as wpk === wpk is now known as mistrzem === mistrzem is now known as wpk [10:24] hello everyone [10:44] * Fujitsu worships mjg59 for giving us a new ELER. [10:44] well all upgraded to hardy, compiz is the only thing held back but i dont use that anyhow [10:45] ELER? [10:45] Everybody Loves Eric Raymond [10:45] ahhh [10:46] now to find out why my nano isnt syntax hilighting anymore .... hrm [10:46] Because nano sucks [10:46] * Fujitsu agrees with StevenK. [10:46] heh <3 nano [10:46] I didn't even know nano could syntax highlight. [10:46] Only people who don't know vi use nano [10:46] yea for a few years now [10:46] StevenK: heh actualy i prefer vi over emacs but i use nano day to day [10:47] if my text editor includes tetris ( yes emacs has tetris ) its not a txt editor [10:47] Evil emacsers. [10:48] now if nano would read gzip'd text files i would have no reason to use vi at all [10:48] that seems to be the only time i use it [10:48] ... other than nano being inefficient and silly. [10:49] inefficient ? [10:50] nano file; ^X vs. vi file , esc i, :wq! [10:50] 3 step vs 1 [10:50] err 3vs 2 [10:50] still [10:50] If all you're doing is saving.... [10:51] 99% of the time i edit a file to edit a file, then save it, yes, that is the reason for an editor :) [10:54] imbrandon: :%s///g in nano? [10:54] StevenK: ^Z; sed -i s///g; fg [10:59] That isn't the same thing at all [11:00] how do you figure, it accomplished the same thing [11:04] imbrandon: compiz should be fixed soon, fwiw [11:04] Amaranth: cool [11:04] compiz-dev was missing a dep on libx11-xcb-dev so all the other packages that build against it (fusion stuff) failed [11:05] figured it was something like that, i am suprised that was all that failed to install honestly [11:06] StevenK: here is nano with some python color i just took love http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/nano-color.png [11:06] err Fujitsu ^^ [11:06] sorry StevenK [11:07] imbrandon: gnome-orca or whatever won't install either [11:07] or system tools [11:07] ahh yea , that too, i forgot about that one, i think system-tools finaly did [11:07] gnome-orca and system-tools-backends [11:08] they didn't a few hours ago [11:08] it's funny though, synaptic installs python-pyatspi for gnome-orca then puts it in autoremove since gnome-orca didn't install [11:08] lol [11:09] imbrandon: is there anything useful in the new flash or just a version bump? [11:09] x264 video iirc [11:09] is the main thing [11:09] ooh [11:09] Amaranth: I know about orca, thats not too hard to get resolved. [11:10] and they apparently have an amd64 windows version [11:10] so hopefully they will for linux soon [11:10] ooh ooh ooh [11:10] XEmbed plugin support [11:10] no more javascript menus going under flash and flash stealing focus for scrolling [11:11] Ooh, nice! [11:11] sweet [11:11] of course gecko and such need to support it too, i think 1.9 does [11:11] So Flash objects won't be silly overlays that don't scroll with the rest and eat input? [11:11] right [11:12] it already works with opera [11:12] Is it an archive admin day today? [11:12] I thought that was tomorrow [11:12] Thats why I'm asking. [11:12] Fujitsu: syntaxx hilighting in nano is just simple regexes in nanorc ala http://paste.ubuntu.com/2503/ is my python one [11:12] I've never really known. [11:13] Hahahahaha. [11:13] Hahahahah. [11:13] * Fujitsu has a simple `syntax on' [11:13] we really should include some basic synctax hilighting in the default nanorc but i've not bugged anyone [11:13] Fujitsu: yea but it makes it trivial to change :) [11:14] I can open up practically any textual file and have sane syntax highlighting automatically. [11:15] my php one is a bit bigger :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/2504/ [11:15] Fujitsu: yea but isnt there still some file that it reads that info from ? [11:15] its just default in ubuntu [11:16] and you can do "generic" hilighting too just omit the first line and it will do the same [11:17] imbrandon: Right, they're provided by vim-runtime, and are part of the standard vim distribution, I believe [11:17] yea [11:18] i should really try to convince the nano maintainer to add some to our default [11:18] (or you could use vim...) [11:18] heh well nano is "default" in ubuntu :) [11:22] anyone got any idea whats up with the mplayer ftbfs, i uploaded it last ( only as a rebuild ) , will a giveback ( eventualy ) fix this ? [11:38] <\sh> phew [11:39] <\sh> combots is dead, com - bots is dead (canon) [11:39] moins cprov [11:39] <\sh> only 3 machines left, and they are wiping like hell [11:39] imbrandon: morning [11:39] :) [11:44] Evening Hobbsee. [11:44] heya! [11:48] whoa [11:48] the xembed flash stuff works with current firefox/epiphany [11:48] Nice. [11:49] and the context menu is gtk2 instead of some ugly thing [11:49] Yay! [11:49] nice [11:49] Amaranth: plugins given back [11:50] Hobbsee: yay [11:51] * Hobbsee bumps the prio of standard compiz, so it gets built first [11:51] huh, it seems like the new gmail is harder on my cpu than the new flash [11:54] Amaranth: It still eats my scroll events :( [11:54] really? [11:54] Yeah. [11:54] i just put my mouse above a youtube video and used the arrow keys to scroll down, no problem [11:54] But I get a nice context menu. [11:54] Oh, I'm talking about mouse wheel. [11:54] oh [11:55] yeah, it grabs though [11:55] err, those [11:55] but i think that's by design? [11:55] I guess it must be. [11:56] RAOF, okay thanks. i'll adjust a patch later on to add that w/ amd64 and leave it as is with other archs === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [12:00] moins dholbach [12:03] imbrandon, any thoughts on those debdiffs? [12:04] DarkMageZ: i have one incorperated and the autoreconf one made it ftb, but i have new way t fi that in the works [12:04] brb [12:11] imbrandon, what type of error did the libvisual-plugins one throw on build? [12:12] * Hobbsee ponders what to do [12:12] it builds here under my gutsy pbuilder :( [12:13] DarkMageZ: hardy? [12:14] Hobbsee, not running it yet. [12:14] DarkMageZ: if you want to build for hardy, you need to build in a hardy pbuilder. [12:15] Hobbsee, building for debian which will get synced to hardy. [12:15] DarkMageZ: oh right [12:16] DarkMageZ: so, uh, why would you then be building in a gutsy pbuilder, and not a sid one? [12:16] <\sh> ok...when you ever wanted to see a spacy datacenter...you can find our former DC here :) http://www.sourcecode.de/content/it [12:16] Hobbsee, because i build for myself. with alittle bit of extra effort to not violate the specs so that the rest of the world might benefit. [12:17] DarkMageZ: i'm just gonna make it use autotools and remove the autoreconf [12:17] DarkMageZ: fair enough. [12:17]