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| asac | hi | 09:05 |
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| Ubulette | yop | 09:08 |
| asac | has prism been sponsored? are seamonkey binaries finally there? | 09:27 |
| Ubulette | no, no | 09:28 |
| asac | Ubulette: | 09:31 |
| asac | Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main seamonkey-browser 1.1.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [10.4MB] | 09:31 |
| asac | 38% [1 seamonkey-browser 4030204/10.4MB 38%] | 09:31 |
| asac | works for me | 09:31 |
| Ubulette | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/seamonkey/ ? | 09:32 |
| asac | apparently nothing to bother about | 09:32 |
| asac | strange | 09:32 |
| asac | pool/main/s/seamonkey/seamonkey-browser_1.1.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 09:32 |
| asac | thats ppa? | 09:33 |
| Ubulette | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/seamonkey/ | 09:34 |
| Ubulette | lol, half in main, half in universe | 09:34 |
| asac | strange | 09:34 |
| asac | well thats possible to do ... but why did it happen for seamonkey | 09:35 |
| asac | must have been an accident i guess | 09:35 |
| Ubulette | I don't know. | 09:35 |
| Ubulette | i have to go now. see you | 09:35 |
| asac | cu | 09:35 |
| asac | Ubulette: xul 1.9 tree closes in a few hours | 12:06 |
| asac | :) | 12:06 |
| asac | let me know if there are other fixes for b1 | 12:06 |
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| Ubulette | hi | 21:48 |
| Ubulette | asac, so, what do we do about cairo ? | 21:49 |
| Ubulette | did you read my answer to the bug ? | 21:49 |
| asac | Ubulette: bug? | 22:38 |
| asac | lets see | 22:39 |
| Ubulette | bug 164640 | 22:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 164640 in firefox-3.0 "Build Firefox 3 against a subpixel-patched cairo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164640 | 22:39 |
| asac | bug 152210 | 22:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 152210 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner ships its own copy of cairo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152210 | 22:40 |
| Ubulette | oh | 22:40 |
| asac | why is that firefox-3.0? | 22:40 |
| * asac reassigning | 22:40 | |
| Ubulette | i don't know. someone triaged it that way | 22:40 |
| asac | is it a dupe? | 22:40 |
| asac | yes :) | 22:41 |
| asac | so whats the upstream bug | 22:41 |
| asac | i mean the main problem is that we cannot build against system cairo | 22:42 |
| asac | but why is that still the case ;) | 22:42 |
| Ubulette | there's a patch in the bug | 22:42 |
| asac | well ... the bug wants to add the patch to xulrunner ... i would prefer to not use the xulrunner cairo at all | 22:43 |
| Ubulette | but look at bonsai, 6 months of patches lost if we use system cairo | 22:43 |
| asac | b=404092, upgrade cairo to 1.5.2-55 | 22:44 |
| asac | how can i find the diff they have? | 22:44 |
| * asac looking at bug | 22:44 | |
| Ubulette | ask vlad :) | 22:45 |
| Dragonath | hi, is this the place to ask when I have a weird problem with thunderbird (and am using kubuntu 7.10)? | 22:45 |
| asac | wtf ... we are still at cairo 1.4.something ... even in hardy ;) | 22:45 |
| Ubulette | yes (but not me) :P | 22:45 |
| Ubulette | asac, yes | 22:46 |
| asac | Dragonath: ? | 22:46 |
| Ubulette | 1.5.* is for dev releases | 22:46 |
| Dragonath | thunderbird doesn't want to show my e-mails' message body | 22:46 |
| asac | Dragonath: start in safe-mode from command-line: thunderbird -safe-mode | 22:47 |
| Dragonath | it downloads the subject, shows the message body in that weird popup thing, and then shows me a blank when I click on it | 22:47 |
| asac | Dragonath: try that first | 22:47 |
| Dragonath | same thing | 22:48 |
| asac | i don't understand what you mean by "weird popup thing" | 22:48 |
| Dragonath | no errors in console | 22:48 |
| Dragonath | when I get the mail, a small window shows on the bottom right side of the screen, showing small bits of the mails received | 22:49 |
| asac | is that reproducible? with every mail or just with some? | 22:50 |
| Dragonath | well, it's been like this for almost two days now I think | 22:50 |
| Dragonath | a GTA newsletter thing just came in, doesn't show the contents at all | 22:51 |
| asac | can you still read mail? | 22:51 |
| Dragonath | it even displays the button where I can click Show Images, but nothing shows even when I click | 22:51 |
| asac | e.g. by opening mails the normal way? | 22:51 |
| Dragonath | well I can read them by logging in to the webmail inbox from where I download them | 22:51 |
| Dragonath | otherwise, bar the subjects, I can't really read any mail | 22:52 |
| asac | ok | 22:53 |
| asac | which extensions do you use? | 22:53 |
| asac | any? | 22:53 |
| Dragonath | I have one for exporting filters | 22:53 |
| Dragonath | that's all | 22:53 |
| asac | and I guess disabling that doesn't help ... hmm | 22:53 |
| Dragonath | problems really started a few weeks ago when I upgraded to 7.10 - trying to read mail just gave me some could not find error | 22:54 |
| Dragonath | yet I checked the innards of the inbox file and found the mails there | 22:55 |
| asac | do you use the thunderbird that is shipped by ubuntu? or did you install it manually at some point? | 22:55 |
| Dragonath | I installed it manually | 22:55 |
| asac | yeah ... well, thats not supported by this channel ... anyway, I would try to backup your profile folder and remove the .msf files .. then see if starting thunderbird helps | 22:56 |
| asac | or try to compact the folders | 22:56 |
| Dragonath | ok | 22:56 |
| Dragonath | when did they start shipping thunderbird with ubuntu? 7.04? | 22:57 |
| asac | since the beginning i guess | 22:57 |
| Dragonath | hmm then it doesn't make sense that I had to install it manually | 22:57 |
| Dragonath | both ubuntu and kubuntu had thunderbird? | 22:57 |
| asac | not by default | 22:57 |
| asac | you can install through Applications -> Add/Remove ... | 22:58 |
| Dragonath | ok | 22:58 |
| asac | if you want to switch you need to copy your profile directory: $HOME/.thunderbird => $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird | 22:59 |
| asac | you can also create a link i guess | 22:59 |
| Dragonath | the profile directory is the whole /mozilla-thunderbird or the subfolder in it? | 23:00 |
| asac | the whole | 23:01 |
| asac | it should be .thunderbird in your home directory | 23:01 |
| Dragonath | ah ok | 23:01 |
| Dragonath | it's mozilla-thunderbird | 23:01 |
| asac | the one used by ubuntu build is .mozilla-thunderbird | 23:01 |
| asac | with a . ? | 23:01 |
| Dragonath | ok | 23:01 |
| Dragonath | yes | 23:02 |
| asac | yeah ... if you did the backup, remove the .msf files and restart tbird | 23:02 |
| asac | (stop before) | 23:02 |
| Dragonath | ok | 23:02 |
| asac | Ubulette: so nothing for this b1 update? | 23:03 |
| Ubulette | oh, hold on. a few (tiny) things | 23:04 |
| Ubulette | can i pull ? | 23:04 |
| Ubulette | is that .dev ? | 23:04 |
| asac | yes | 23:06 |
| asac | which things do you want to change? | 23:07 |
| Ubulette | Add Homepage: and Vcs-Bzr: fields in control file | 23:09 |
| asac | yes ... go ahead | 23:09 |
| asac | which homepage? | 23:09 |
| Dragonath | ok, I think I might have to wipe all the stuff and do a reinstall again | 23:09 |
| asac | upstream? | 23:09 |
| Dragonath | thanks for help though | 23:09 |
| asac | hmm | 23:09 |
| asac | ok | 23:10 |
| Dragonath | good night (it's night here) :) | 23:10 |
| asac | u2 | 23:10 |
| Ubulette | pushed | 23:10 |
| Ubulette | !info prism | 23:10 |
| ubotu | Package prism does not exist in gutsy | 23:10 |
| Ubulette | !info prism hardy | 23:11 |
| ubotu | Package prism does not exist in hardy | 23:11 |
| Ubulette | pfff | 23:11 |
| asac | yes, tomorrow i will sponsor then | 23:13 |
| asac | i think we generated enough awareness for this upload | 23:13 |
| asac | Ubulette: so which main things are missing for our xulrunner package becoming stable | 23:14 |
| Ubulette | python | 23:14 |
| asac | one important thing i received so far is libxul-embedding-unstable.pc | 23:15 |
| asac | so other .pc files can easily Requires: the unstable cflags | 23:15 |
| asac | yeah right ... we have python | 23:15 |
| Ubulette | but it will be ubuntu specific right ? | 23:15 |
| Ubulette | unless you post it upstream | 23:15 |
| asac | i hop e we can send it upstream | 23:15 |
| Ubulette | i doubt benjamin will agree | 23:16 |
| asac | otherwise my build system patches would not be good for upstream | 23:16 |
| asac | s | 23:16 |
| asac | lets see | 23:16 |
| asac | ok .pc files | 23:16 |
| asac | is one thing ... what about obsolete headers? | 23:17 |
| asac | thats an upstream bug to not ship them in unstable, right? | 23:17 |
| asac | i mean they duplicate all other stable headers in unstable | 23:17 |
| asac | why not the obsolete headers | 23:17 |
| asac | ? | 23:17 |
| Ubulette | obsolete headers ? | 23:18 |
| asac | yes there is a obsolete dir in the stable include dir, but not in the unstable one | 23:18 |
| asac | those are needed for epiphany for instance | 23:18 |
| asac | (iirc) | 23:19 |
| Ubulette | I see duplicates .h, not .idl | 23:20 |
| Ubulette | looks like a bug to me | 23:20 |
| asac | you mean like no stable idls in unstable? | 23:21 |
| asac | hmm nsIFactory.idl is in both | 23:21 |
| asac | ok ... we have still the addons issue | 23:22 |
| asac | e.g. plugins is only read from one location | 23:22 |
| asac | (or was it extensions?) | 23:22 |
| Ubulette | extensions | 23:24 |
| Ubulette | plugins are not shared.. yet | 23:24 |
| asac | he? | 23:24 |
| asac | so extensions work? | 23:24 |
| asac | but plugins don't, right? | 23:24 |
| Ubulette | ok, idl are dupe too | 23:24 |
| asac | yes, still obsolete is missing in unstable includedir | 23:25 |
| asac | at least for me | 23:25 |
| Ubulette | no. I mean: ff3 is using /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins and /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/extensions | 23:26 |
| asac | and /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions is not considered? | 23:26 |
| Ubulette | obsolete, why would you want that ? | 23:26 |
| asac | because some apps still use it :) | 23:26 |
| Ubulette | so far, there's no /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions | 23:26 |
| asac | and if they use unstable as well you have to add two pkg-config --cflags | 23:27 |
| asac | which is ugly as well | 23:27 |
| asac | i have no problem with it | 23:27 |
| asac | but sounds wrong imo to not put them in unstable | 23:27 |
| Ubulette | unstable just mean "not frozen yet", while obsolete is just obsolete = don't use it | 23:27 |
| Ubulette | +s | 23:27 |
| asac | yeah ... still stable headers go to unstable as well | 23:28 |
| asac | so obsolete should too | 23:28 |
| Ubulette | i think stable in unstable is a bug | 23:28 |
| asac | you could also understand unstable as "discouraged to use" ... which would make unstable a better candidate for obsolete then stable is | 23:28 |
| Ubulette | or it's wanted to be easier | 23:28 |
| asac | yes ... its for ease ... e.g. so just one pkg-config statement is enough | 23:29 |
| Ubulette | no, I just watched a video from benjamin. unstable = not frozen | 23:29 |
| Ubulette | you'd better hurry if you want to submit patches upstream. b2 is close | 23:38 |
| Ubulette | it may even be too late | 23:39 |
| asac | Tree is now closed for Beta 2 Bake Period. Only P1 blocking1.9 bugs or bugs with approvalM10 may land during this time. | 23:43 |
| asac | :) | 23:44 |
| Ubulette | yep | 23:44 |
| Ubulette | 2 weeks, still no prism. so much for "we love new packages, contribute to motu" | 23:47 |
| Ubulette | http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1082 | 23:50 |
| asac | bug 174219 | 23:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 174219 in xulrunner "Please merge xulrunner 1.8.1.11-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174219 | 23:51 |
| asac | is my | 23:51 |
| Ubulette | is your ? | 23:54 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/ | 23:55 |
| asac | i have to do those that i am responsible for | 23:55 |
| asac | now that i think of it :) ... does prism have a bug and is ubuntu-universe-sponsors assigned? | 23:55 |
| Ubulette | bug 172484 | 23:57 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 172484 in ubuntu "Please package Prism" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172484 | 23:57 |
| Ubulette | why is lool responsible (with you) for xulrunner ? | 23:57 |
| asac | yeah in future ubuntu-revu needs to be subscribed to get revu review ... and once that is done ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 23:57 |
| asac | sorry for not teaching you that properly ;) | 23:58 |
| asac | Ubulette: no idea ... why lool | 23:58 |
| asac | he is interested in general desktop things? | 23:59 |
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