=== \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:05] hi [09:08] yop [09:27] has prism been sponsored? are seamonkey binaries finally there? [09:28] no, no [09:31] Ubulette: [09:31] Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main seamonkey-browser 1.1.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [10.4MB] [09:31] 38% [1 seamonkey-browser 4030204/10.4MB 38%] [09:31] works for me [09:32] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/seamonkey/ ? [09:32] apparently nothing to bother about [09:32] strange [09:32] pool/main/s/seamonkey/seamonkey-browser_1.1.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [09:33] thats ppa? [09:34] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/seamonkey/ [09:34] lol, half in main, half in universe [09:34] strange [09:35] well thats possible to do ... but why did it happen for seamonkey [09:35] must have been an accident i guess [09:35] I don't know. [09:35] i have to go now. see you [09:35] cu [12:06] Ubulette: xul 1.9 tree closes in a few hours [12:06] :) [12:06] let me know if there are other fixes for b1 === \sh is now known as \sh_away === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [21:48] hi [21:49] asac, so, what do we do about cairo ? [21:49] did you read my answer to the bug ? [22:38] Ubulette: bug? [22:39] lets see [22:39] bug 164640 [22:39] Launchpad bug 164640 in firefox-3.0 "Build Firefox 3 against a subpixel-patched cairo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164640 [22:39] bug 152210 [22:40] Launchpad bug 152210 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner ships its own copy of cairo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152210 [22:40] oh [22:40] why is that firefox-3.0? [22:40] * asac reassigning [22:40] i don't know. someone triaged it that way [22:40] is it a dupe? [22:41] yes :) [22:41] so whats the upstream bug [22:42] i mean the main problem is that we cannot build against system cairo [22:42] but why is that still the case ;) [22:42] there's a patch in the bug [22:43] well ... the bug wants to add the patch to xulrunner ... i would prefer to not use the xulrunner cairo at all [22:43] but look at bonsai, 6 months of patches lost if we use system cairo [22:44] b=404092, upgrade cairo to 1.5.2-55 [22:44] how can i find the diff they have? [22:44] * asac looking at bug [22:45] ask vlad :) [22:45] hi, is this the place to ask when I have a weird problem with thunderbird (and am using kubuntu 7.10)? [22:45] wtf ... we are still at cairo 1.4.something ... even in hardy ;) [22:45] yes (but not me) :P [22:46] asac, yes [22:46] Dragonath: ? [22:46] 1.5.* is for dev releases [22:46] thunderbird doesn't want to show my e-mails' message body [22:47] Dragonath: start in safe-mode from command-line: thunderbird -safe-mode [22:47] it downloads the subject, shows the message body in that weird popup thing, and then shows me a blank when I click on it [22:47] Dragonath: try that first [22:48] same thing [22:48] i don't understand what you mean by "weird popup thing" [22:48] no errors in console [22:49] when I get the mail, a small window shows on the bottom right side of the screen, showing small bits of the mails received [22:50] is that reproducible? with every mail or just with some? [22:50] well, it's been like this for almost two days now I think [22:51] a GTA newsletter thing just came in, doesn't show the contents at all [22:51] can you still read mail? [22:51] it even displays the button where I can click Show Images, but nothing shows even when I click [22:51] e.g. by opening mails the normal way? [22:51] well I can read them by logging in to the webmail inbox from where I download them [22:52] otherwise, bar the subjects, I can't really read any mail [22:53] ok [22:53] which extensions do you use? [22:53] any? [22:53] I have one for exporting filters [22:53] that's all [22:53] and I guess disabling that doesn't help ... hmm [22:54] problems really started a few weeks ago when I upgraded to 7.10 - trying to read mail just gave me some could not find error [22:55] yet I checked the innards of the inbox file and found the mails there [22:55] do you use the thunderbird that is shipped by ubuntu? or did you install it manually at some point? [22:55] I installed it manually [22:56] yeah ... well, thats not supported by this channel ... anyway, I would try to backup your profile folder and remove the .msf files .. then see if starting thunderbird helps [22:56] or try to compact the folders [22:56] ok [22:57] when did they start shipping thunderbird with ubuntu? 7.04? [22:57] since the beginning i guess [22:57] hmm then it doesn't make sense that I had to install it manually [22:57] both ubuntu and kubuntu had thunderbird? [22:57] not by default [22:58] you can install through Applications -> Add/Remove ... [22:58] ok [22:59] if you want to switch you need to copy your profile directory: $HOME/.thunderbird => $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird [22:59] you can also create a link i guess [23:00] the profile directory is the whole /mozilla-thunderbird or the subfolder in it? [23:01] the whole [23:01] it should be .thunderbird in your home directory [23:01] ah ok [23:01] it's mozilla-thunderbird [23:01] the one used by ubuntu build is .mozilla-thunderbird [23:01] with a . ? [23:01] ok [23:02] yes [23:02] yeah ... if you did the backup, remove the .msf files and restart tbird [23:02] (stop before) [23:02] ok [23:03] Ubulette: so nothing for this b1 update? [23:04] oh, hold on. a few (tiny) things [23:04] can i pull ? [23:04] is that .dev ? [23:06] yes [23:07] which things do you want to change? [23:09] Add Homepage: and Vcs-Bzr: fields in control file [23:09] yes ... go ahead [23:09] which homepage? [23:09] ok, I think I might have to wipe all the stuff and do a reinstall again [23:09] upstream? [23:09] thanks for help though [23:09] hmm [23:10] ok [23:10] good night (it's night here) :) [23:10] u2 [23:10] pushed [23:10] !info prism [23:10] Package prism does not exist in gutsy [23:11] !info prism hardy [23:11] Package prism does not exist in hardy [23:11] pfff [23:13] yes, tomorrow i will sponsor then [23:13] i think we generated enough awareness for this upload [23:14] Ubulette: so which main things are missing for our xulrunner package becoming stable [23:14] python [23:15] one important thing i received so far is libxul-embedding-unstable.pc [23:15] so other .pc files can easily Requires: the unstable cflags [23:15] yeah right ... we have python [23:15] but it will be ubuntu specific right ? [23:15] unless you post it upstream [23:15] i hop e we can send it upstream [23:16] i doubt benjamin will agree [23:16] otherwise my build system patches would not be good for upstream [23:16] s [23:16] lets see [23:16] ok .pc files [23:17] is one thing ... what about obsolete headers? [23:17] thats an upstream bug to not ship them in unstable, right? [23:17] i mean they duplicate all other stable headers in unstable [23:17] why not the obsolete headers [23:17] ? [23:18] obsolete headers ? [23:18] yes there is a obsolete dir in the stable include dir, but not in the unstable one [23:18] those are needed for epiphany for instance [23:19] (iirc) [23:20] I see duplicates .h, not .idl [23:20] looks like a bug to me [23:21] you mean like no stable idls in unstable? [23:21] hmm nsIFactory.idl is in both [23:22] ok ... we have still the addons issue [23:22] e.g. plugins is only read from one location [23:22] (or was it extensions?) [23:24] extensions [23:24] plugins are not shared.. yet [23:24] he? [23:24] so extensions work? [23:24] but plugins don't, right? [23:24] ok, idl are dupe too [23:25] yes, still obsolete is missing in unstable includedir [23:25] at least for me [23:26] no. I mean: ff3 is using /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins and /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/extensions [23:26] and /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions is not considered? [23:26] obsolete, why would you want that ? [23:26] because some apps still use it :) [23:26] so far, there's no /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions [23:27] and if they use unstable as well you have to add two pkg-config --cflags [23:27] which is ugly as well [23:27] i have no problem with it [23:27] but sounds wrong imo to not put them in unstable [23:27] unstable just mean "not frozen yet", while obsolete is just obsolete = don't use it [23:27] +s [23:28] yeah ... still stable headers go to unstable as well [23:28] so obsolete should too [23:28] i think stable in unstable is a bug [23:28] you could also understand unstable as "discouraged to use" ... which would make unstable a better candidate for obsolete then stable is [23:28] or it's wanted to be easier [23:29] yes ... its for ease ... e.g. so just one pkg-config statement is enough [23:29] no, I just watched a video from benjamin. unstable = not frozen [23:38] you'd better hurry if you want to submit patches upstream. b2 is close [23:39] it may even be too late [23:43] Tree is now closed for Beta 2 Bake Period. Only P1 blocking1.9 bugs or bugs with approvalM10 may land during this time. [23:44] :) [23:44] yep [23:47] 2 weeks, still no prism. so much for "we love new packages, contribute to motu" [23:50] http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1082 [23:51] bug 174219 [23:51] Launchpad bug 174219 in xulrunner "Please merge xulrunner 1.8.1.11-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174219 [23:51] is my [23:54] is your ? [23:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/ [23:55] i have to do those that i am responsible for [23:55] now that i think of it :) ... does prism have a bug and is ubuntu-universe-sponsors assigned? [23:57] bug 172484 [23:57] Launchpad bug 172484 in ubuntu "Please package Prism" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172484 [23:57] why is lool responsible (with you) for xulrunner ? [23:57] yeah in future ubuntu-revu needs to be subscribed to get revu review ... and once that is done ubuntu-universe-sponsors [23:58] sorry for not teaching you that properly ;) [23:58] Ubulette: no idea ... why lool [23:59] he is interested in general desktop things?