[00:14] <AlsMe> : I'm trying to get mythTV running on linux.. what capture card should I use?
[00:15] <AlsMe> anyone here?
[00:16] <rogue780> hi
[00:16] <rogue780> I'd recommend the Hauppauge PVR-150. I've used it and it works great
[00:17] <tgm4883> AlsMe, HD or SD
[00:30] <AlsMe> hey back
[00:31] <AlsMe> I'm just really new to this TVCapture stuff.. and I want to be sure it does HDTD, any clue if it does support this?
[00:31] <AlsMe> HDTV*
[00:31] <tgm4883> HDTD?
[00:31] <tgm4883> ah
[00:32] <AlsMe> do you use HDTV with it?
[00:32] <tgm4883> no, the PVR-150 doesn't do HDTV
[00:32] <AlsMe> or just analog
[00:32] <tgm4883> yes I do
[00:32] <AlsMe> ohh that's too bad
[00:32] <tgm4883> I would recommend a HDHomerun for HD
[00:32] <tgm4883> What are you system specs?
[00:33] <AlsMe> alright, and the other thing.. should I use MythTV with it?
[00:33] <tgm4883> yes
[00:33] <AlsMe> like MythTV will record it correct? and in which formats can I save it as?
[00:34] <tgm4883> afaik, HD will come in as compressed MPEG2-TS
[00:34] <AlsMe> I want to have this Capture card on my FileServer.. and then just save the Sessions on my Hard drive, so that I can pull it off when I want from my other computers
[00:34] <AlsMe> and this is all possible
[00:35] <AlsMe> great stuff!
[00:35] <tgm4883> well you can do a number of things then
[00:35] <AlsMe> really?
[00:35] <AlsMe> such as?
[00:35] <tgm4883> a) load a mythtv frontend on the other machines
[00:35] <AlsMe> on the client machines you mean?
[00:35] <tgm4883> b) transcode the shows after recording to whatever format you want
[00:35] <tgm4883> yes
[00:35] <tgm4883> the clients
[00:36] <tgm4883> you could use mytharchive and burn to DVD
[00:36] <AlsMe> brilliant :D
[00:36] <tgm4883> C) ^^
[00:36] <AlsMe> well I don't really need to burn to DVD .. I just want to save shows that I don't have time to watch
[00:36] <AlsMe> then pull them off the server for viewing at another time
[00:36] <tgm4883> thats what mythtv does :)
[00:36] <AlsMe> great stuff
[00:36] <tgm4883> although you don't have to pull them off unless your short on space
[00:36] <AlsMe> now one more quick question
[00:37] <tgm4883> famous last words
[00:37] <AlsMe> right, I mean like download it off the server
[00:37] <AlsMe> but as for the question
[00:37] <tgm4883> yes, you can do that
[00:37] <AlsMe> I don't have an HDTV signal going to my house yet
[00:37] <AlsMe> I'm wondering when I update my service to digital.. what cables will I need
[00:38] <AlsMe> is there like an HDMI cable going to this capture card? or component video cables
[00:38] <tgm4883> yea, thats not going to be your last question
[00:38] <tgm4883> so.....
[00:38] <tgm4883> here it goes
[00:38] <tgm4883> what HD channels are you hoping to record?
[00:38] <tgm4883> sec, im going to need a drink
[00:38] <AlsMe> Tennis, (sports) soccer, alright.. I'll get a beer myself
[00:39] <tgm4883> well tennis, sports, soccer doesn't say much
[00:39] <AlsMe> and mostly anything else that I can find
[00:39] <tgm4883> what country are you from?
[00:39] <AlsMe> Canada
[00:39] <tgm4883> hmmm
[00:40] <AlsMe> we currently have something like 10 HD channels
[00:41] <tgm4883> rogue780, ping
[00:42] <AlsMe> this, HDHomerun.. is a box.. I need a HD card that goes into the PCI-E
[00:42] <tgm4883> hmm, im not from canada, so the best I can do is give you generic advice
[00:42] <AlsMe> where are you from?
[00:42] <tgm4883> USA
[00:42] <AlsMe> ahh
[00:42] <tgm4883> the HDHomerun is a dual HD tuner that connects via ethernet
[00:43] <tgm4883> and is pretty good for the price
[00:43] <tgm4883> temba!!!
[00:44] <tgm4883> there is also the pcHDTV 5500 which is a single HD tuner that is PCI
[00:44] <AlsMe> ahh, I like the sound of that
[00:44] <tgm4883> i believe it is $130 while the HDHomerun is $180
[00:44] <tgm4883> USD of course :)
[00:44] <AlsMe> CAN :) is worth more now
[00:44] <AlsMe> so its probably cheeper if I get it through ebay
[00:45] <AlsMe> from the US
[00:45] <tgm4883> you can always pay in maple syrup too ;)
[00:45] <AlsMe> ...
[00:45] <AlsMe> I don't live in Quebec you know
[00:45] <tgm4883> mmmm, pancakes and canadian bacon
[00:45] <tgm4883> anyway....
[00:45] <AlsMe> In Ontario, we don't deal with syrup
[00:45] <tgm4883> ah
[00:45] <AlsMe> lol.. yea anyways
[00:46] <AlsMe> I'm building a server first and I want it mainly for HDTV recording
[00:46] <AlsMe> so I'll just get the pci solution
[00:46] <tgm4883> so anyway with these cards, you will only be able to tune unencrypted channels
[00:46] <tgm4883> i'm not sure how thats dealt with in canada
[00:46] <AlsMe> really
[00:46] <AlsMe> :|
[00:46] <AlsMe> :(
[00:46] <tgm4883> yep
[00:47] <AlsMe> that's a piss-off
[00:47] <tgm4883> yes
[00:47] <AlsMe> is that why you don't view hdtv?
[00:47] <tgm4883> another solution would be to stream over firewire
[00:47] <tgm4883> i do view HDTV
[00:47] <tgm4883> foxbuntu!!!
[00:47] <tgm4883> I just don't view HDTV with a PVR-150
[00:48] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, evening
[00:48] <tgm4883> as that would be pretty impossible
[00:48] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, what do you know about canada
[00:48] <AlsMe> lmao.. its a nice place, come down sometime
[00:48] <tgm4883> but about the firewire, im not sure how canada deals with that either
[00:48] <AlsMe> kind of cold ATM tho :(
[00:49] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, its cold and they are north of me
[00:49] <AlsMe> yea, I don't know either
[00:49] <foxbuntu> :)
[00:49] <AlsMe> well, I'm looking for a good quality pci-e card
[00:49] <AlsMe> that can do hdtv
[00:49] <directhex> there are no supported pci express tuners
[00:49] <AlsMe> I found a few on newegg .. but I'm not sure if they work with Ubuntu
[00:49] <AlsMe> :s
[00:49] <tgm4883> AlsMe, afaik the pcHDTV 5500 isn't a pci-e card
[00:50] <directhex> and you're still left with the encryption problem
[00:50] <AlsMe> how do most people get around that?
[00:50] <tgm4883> AlsMe, we don't :)
[00:51] <AlsMe> when I visit newsgroups and stuff.. people have hd videos up and so those were all unencrypted?
[00:51] <directhex> be european!
[00:51] <tgm4883> or in some cases we stream firewire
[00:51] <tgm4883> AlsMe, well that would depend on what the videos were of, but yea probably unencrypted
[00:51] <tgm4883> directhex, I was a little while ago, but not anymore
[00:51] <AlsMe> I found Kitchen Nightmares
[00:51] <directhex> there are assorted getout options - only tune unencrypted content; get a cable set-top box which outputs unencrypted streams via firewire; do illegal things
[00:51] <AlsMe> like full HD .. and it was beautiful
[00:52] <AlsMe> yea...
[00:53] <tgm4883> Kitchen Nightmares is on FOX, which is a local channel which is unencrypted
[00:53] <AlsMe> but for me to change the output on the set-top box going through the firewire to the pc.... I need to manual change the channel on the top box
[00:54] <tgm4883> no, the channel gets changed via firewire
[00:54] <AlsMe> ahhh ;)
[00:54] <AlsMe> I like this :D
[00:54] <tgm4883> but again, im not sure if canada allows this
[00:54] <AlsMe> well I guess we'll never know then
[00:55] <AlsMe> okay I need a set-top box
[00:55] <tgm4883> in my case, most of what I watch is on the local channels (which are all unencrypted), for the few non local channels, i stream via firewire (ESPN, Discovery HD)
[00:55] <AlsMe> does my cable provider send that to me ?
[00:56] <tgm4883> afaik, yea
[00:57] <AlsMe> why don't you do everything over firewire?
[00:57] <AlsMe> any limitations when streaming via firewire?
[00:57] <tgm4883> well because A) I have a pcHDTV 5500 already, and B)  I tend to record more than 1 show at a time
[00:58] <AlsMe> alrighty then.. sounds good
[00:58] <tgm4883> oh, and C) I haven't complained about the transmission of NBC yet
[00:58] <tgm4883> it's crappy on my STB
[00:58] <tgm4883> just that channel though
[00:58] <tgm4883> very strange
[00:58] <AlsMe> yea, that sucks
[00:58] <AlsMe> alright, so what firewire streaming device should I be using
[00:58] <tgm4883> crystal on my pcHDTV though
[00:59] <tgm4883> huh?
[00:59] <tgm4883> you stream directly from the STB to your computer
[00:59] <tgm4883> !firewire
[00:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firewire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:59] <directhex> typically, your cable contract will mandate using an authorized set-top box, which you would need to obtain from your cable company
[01:00] <directhex> in yankland, they have a legal requirement to offer FW on request
[01:00] <tgm4883> yankland, sounds dirty
[01:00] <directhex> filthy
[01:00] <tgm4883> and fun :)
[01:01] <AlsMe> so the STB, should have a firewire output
[01:01] <tgm4883> in a perfect world, yes
[01:02] <AlsMe> right
[01:02] <AlsMe> thanks :)
[01:02] <directhex> in a perfect world, cale cos would use regular DVB-C, and sell you a CAm on request
[01:02] <AlsMe> why do they limit all this sheiB
[01:02] <tgm4883> $$$
[01:02] <AlsMe> meh..
[01:02] <directhex> fear of the unknown
[01:03] <directhex> teh digitals si teh piratz!
[01:03] <AlsMe> like seriously.. why encrypt channels
[01:03] <AlsMe> why not just let us view them
[01:03] <AlsMe> without hastle
[01:03] <AlsMe> drives me nuts.. and I'm just learning about all this stuff now
[01:03] <directhex> encrypting isn't a problem. i don;t mind that. i mind being forced into using a set-top box to decryot, when the technoogy to do it otherwise is widely available
[01:04] <AlsMe> its widely available where?
[01:04] <AlsMe> why not buy off ebay
[01:04] <AlsMe> and import ;)
[01:06] <rogue780> tgm4883, sup?
[01:07] <tgm4883> I was checking to see if you new anything about canada and cable
[01:07] <directhex> AlsMe, because most of the time it's also illegal
[01:08] <directhex> all depends on algorithms & contracts
[01:09] <AlsMe> The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) has adopted the same digital television standard for stations in Canada as the United States. The CRTC initially decided not to enforce a single date for transitioning to digital broadcasts, opting to let the economy decide when the switchover will occur.
[01:09] <AlsMe> useful at all?
[01:10] <directhex> for example, in poland, the polish satellite monopoly will sell you a CAM along with your subscription - a CAm can go into any capable tuner hardware like a set-top box or a dvb-s card, and allow you access to encrypted channels. conversely, Sky in the UK insist in their contract that only their sky-branded set top box is permitted, and those set-top boxes have integrated CAMs (using an encryption tech owned by sky's parent com
[01:10] <directhex> pany). if you use the viewing card in an unauthorized box, it gets locked out & blanked within 2 weeks
[01:12] <AlsMe> thanks guys...
[01:12] <directhex> accessing encrypted content in an Open manner is possible, if a) a CAM exists for accessing your provider's encryption mechanism b) your contract allows use of said CAM
[01:12] <AlsMe> I guess I'll wait a few more years
[01:12] <directhex> i access some encrypted channels from over-the-air dvb-t, using an official branded CAM
[01:13] <directhex> but i can't get sky, as they're violently against such technology
[01:13] <AlsMe> well I just want HD sports like TSN
[01:13] <AlsMe> and other Canadian stuff
[01:13] <AlsMe> so I'll just stream it over the STB
[01:13] <directhex> assuming yoru cable co allows you to
[01:14] <directhex> they might not
[01:14] <AlsMe> how will they know?
[01:14] <tgm4883> heh
[01:14] <tgm4883> if the firewire port is disabled it wont matter
[01:15] <AlsMe> righttt...
[01:15] <AlsMe> well I'm with cogeco.ca
[01:15] <AlsMe> so I'll check it out brb
[01:16] <AlsMe> http://www.cogeco.ca/en/digital_boxes_o.html
[01:16] <AlsMe> any good?
[01:17] <AlsMe> I don't think there's an STB with cogeco.. unless that is it
[01:18] <tgm4883> that would be an STB
[01:21] <directhex> looks like moto to me?
[01:22] <tgm4883> yep
[01:22] <tgm4883> looks like mine
[01:22] <tgm4883> only different color nubmers
[01:23] <AlsMe> doesn't say anything about a firewire output
[01:23] <directhex> well if it's a 6200, it has a firewire port
[01:24] <directhex> the moto dct 6200 is the canonical example
[01:24] <tgm4883> right, but just because it has a firewire port, doesn't mean it's active
[01:25] <directhex> yeah, that'll require bitching to your cableco. http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/dct6200/ definitely looks like it to me though
[01:25] <AlsMe> cogeco*
[01:25] <AlsMe> hehe
[01:26] <AlsMe> I'll just call them up and ask if the port is active
[01:27] <AlsMe> so the firewire port will go right to my pc .. and I won't need a capture card.. just mythtv?
[01:27] <foxbuntu> AlsMe, good luck getting a CSR that knows what firewire is much less if its active
[01:27] <AlsMe> then I'll speak to his manager and ask
[01:27] <AlsMe> ;)
[01:27] <foxbuntu> lol
[01:28] <directhex> don't be surprised if they just say "no" to get rid of you
[01:28] <AlsMe> we don't do that in Canada :)
[01:29] <AlsMe> we're all pretty friendly here
[01:29] <AlsMe> ... this price of the STB is a lot!!!
[01:29] <AlsMe> wow.. 599.99 dollars
[01:33] <AlsMe> anyways, thanks a lot guys
[01:33] <AlsMe> I'm heading out
[03:38] <MythbuntuGuest22> anyone around?
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
 is the right place to get help with installing sasc-ng?
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i know nothing about sasc-ng
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> have you tried in #mythtv-users?
[03:41] <MythbuntuGuest22> no what server is that channel on?
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> same
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> just /join #mythtv-users
[03:42] <MythbuntuGuest22> k thx you
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> on freenode
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> but your on freenode so it should work
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> unless the web app restricts that
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> i forget how it is setup
[03:42] <MythbuntuGuest22> cool i just on the java applet through the my web browser right now
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop>  /join #mythtv-users
[03:43] <tgm4883_laptop> that should work
[03:43] <MythbuntuGuest22> cool will do i'll try with mirc as well
 also would you be able to help me out with a sound issue i'm mythbuntu?
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> perhaps
[03:45] <MythbuntuGuest22> well its not working but it did detect my sound card its onboard alsa
[03:45] <tgm4883_laptop> onboard?
[03:46] <MythbuntuGuest22> yea its onboard
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, whats not working about it?
[03:48] <MythbuntuGuest22> the sound isn't comming through my speakers
[03:48] <tgm4883_laptop> no sound at all?
[03:48] <MythbuntuGuest22> none at all
[03:48] <tgm4883_laptop> have you tested outside of mythtv?
[03:49] <MythbuntuGuest22> no i haven't actually i've checked the mixer setting everything seemed fine
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> try something outside of mythtv
[03:51] <MythbuntuGuest22> this is the mobo i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131214
[03:52] <mindframe-> MythbuntuGuest22, should have gotten the abit
 how come?
[03:56] <mindframe-> same chipset with a better design imo
[03:58] <mindframe-> i like the built in hdmi instead of addon header
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest22> cool i like the amd 690 with hdmi but at the time got this linux drive from ati were shit
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest22> drivers*
[04:02] <mindframe-> definitely dont get a 690g board
[04:02] <mindframe-> not for linux htpc at least
[04:03] <Nightcrlr> yeah i'm going to stick with this one for now
[04:03] <Nightcrlr> so the abit board you are talking about is nvidia chipset wit hdmi out?
[04:04] <mindframe-> yeah
[04:05] <Nightcrlr> nice
[04:05] <Nightcrlr> now i wish i did get that board
[04:05] <mindframe-> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127028
[04:05] <Nightcrlr> hdmi is so nice and clean
[04:06] <mindframe-> not much better than dvi(picture quality wise)
[04:08] <Nightcrlr> i didn't mean for video qualit but being able to pass 5.1 as well with smaller cleaner connet is nice
[04:08] <Nightcrlr> does this board have the capability to pass audio through hdmi?
[04:10] <mindframe-> yes but its not currently working in linux
[04:10] <mindframe-> alsa has the issue listed as a major bug so it may or may not be fixed
[04:11] <mindframe-> im using the optical anyway
[04:11] <Nightcrlr> cool
[04:11] <Nightcrlr> my onboard sound isn't working right now i have no idea why
[04:12] <Nightcrlr> i've tested it with windows, and i've had it working with linux mce
[04:12] <mindframe-> worked fine for me
[04:13] <Nightcrlr> i'm using mythbuntu 710 right now... is there a quick command that i can type in terminal to update the sound drivers?
[04:14] <mindframe-> i would lspci and make sure its detecting the device first
[04:15] <mindframe-> then look in mixer and see if it shows the nvidia device
[04:16] <Nightcrlr> yeah mixer is diplaying #0 HDA NVidia
[04:16] <mindframe-> is volume cranked all the way up?
[04:17] <Nightcrlr> yeah
[04:19] <Nightcrlr> lspci and i see it is detected
[05:40] <rhpot1991> anyone ever have problems with mythdvd throwing read errors?
[05:40] <rhpot1991> 23:09:55: Error: DVDISOCopyThread dvd device read error
[05:44] <Dr_willis> there seems to be some issues with the latest ubuntu and some dvd/cd/burners - Not sure what the exact problem is.. the forums seem to think its a kernel bugglet
[05:45] <rhpot1991> this is the first dvd I have seen it happen on
[05:45] <rhpot1991> requested another disc from netflix so we will see if that one works better or not
[05:46] <Dr_willis> could been a bad blank dvd.. or are you ripping a dvd? ahh.. Hmm
[05:46] <rhpot1991> I tried it on 2 different dvd burners too
[05:46] <rhpot1991> ripping a dvd to an iso
[05:46] <rhpot1991> to play from the hard drive
[05:46] <Dr_willis> try the normal dd command perhaps?
[05:46] <rhpot1991> nope, I have not
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ive heard guys at work claim that some 'dvd's they cant copy with their windows software.. but i never bother with the stuff..
[05:48] <rhpot1991> let me see if it will actually play
[05:48] <rhpot1991> the rip starts, but fails a few minutes in every time
[05:49] <rhpot1991> dvd doesn't look very badly damaged, but who know
[05:49] <Dr_willis> I need to get one of those dvd/cd polishers one of these days
[05:49] <rhpot1991> I have one, waste of money
[05:50] <rhpot1991> basically sands down the disc then tries to repolish it
[05:50] <rhpot1991> also I think netflix would be pissed if I did that and then sent it back
[05:52] <rhpot1991> dvd playback crashed
[05:52] <rhpot1991> maybe its just a bad disc
[05:53] <rhpot1991> or some hackjob attempt at copy protection that breaks things
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how one can even copy protect a dvd more..
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Id be irked that netflix sent me a bad disk. :) but im to cheap to rent dvds anyway
[05:54] <Dr_willis> McDonolds has movies for $1 a day - im too cheap for that.
[05:55] <rhpot1991> well they are gonna send me a new one out tomorrow
[05:55] <rhpot1991> will be here friday
[05:55] <rhpot1991> not like I don't have 2 others sitting here, and I'm not planning on watching them right this instance anyways
[05:55] <rhpot1991> too busy playing mario galaxy...
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Been thinking about getting that game..
[05:55] <rhpot1991> your first mistake is considering anything McDonalds does acceptable
[05:56] <rhpot1991> if you have a wii you should get it
[05:56] <rhpot1991> it is absolutely fantastic
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I dont have any other games for my wii at this time.. other then that bowling/boxing/sports game. :) been playing my old GC games.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> been waiting for that harvest moon game. or somting else the wife can play also.
[05:56] <rhpot1991> it really is a must own
[05:57] <Dr_willis> I can wait for it to hit the bargin bins/used stores. :)
[05:57] <rhpot1991> it has a 2 player mode, but I think its more for helping younger kids play
[05:57] <rhpot1991> I prefer harvest moon games on the ds myself, I like the ability to close it and let it go to sleep so I can randomly play while watching tv or something
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Wife just liked the farming game...
[05:58] <Dr_willis> and a few  of the other simpiler "NintinDogs" ? i think game..
[05:58] <rhpot1991> it is an addictive game
[05:58] <rhpot1991> and people think you are strange for playing a farming game
[05:58] <Dr_willis> She got mad at Harvest Moon on the SNES when her cow died..
[05:58] <rhpot1991> hah
[05:58] <Dr_willis> or was that on the PS. I forget..
[05:59] <Dr_willis> She cant handle the real 3d world of a lot of the games.. she gets confused.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> She does like the Wii bowling
[05:59] <rhpot1991> you should grab a copy of wiiplay
[06:00] <rhpot1991> well worth it when you consider its basically the price of a controller anyways
[06:00] <Dr_willis> I think i got that and wii sports. :) they came with the wii when i got it some deal they had.
[06:00] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[06:00] <Dr_willis> thats it for my wii games.
[06:00] <rhpot1991> big brain academy is pretty good, though a bit pricey for what you get IMO
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Then i grabbed a wireless GC controller. and been playing GC games on my wii. I kept the GC so i can play GBA games on the TV :)
[06:01] <rhpot1991> same here
[06:01] <rhpot1991> also the part where ebgamestop offers you like $10 for your GC
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I never did finish Zelda Wind Breaker, :) or the paper Mario yet.
[06:01] <rhpot1991> both good games
[06:01] <rhpot1991> zelda for the wii is good too
[06:01] <Dr_willis> GC games are also down to like $10 each used now. :)
[06:02] <rhpot1991> as is paper mario
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Issue i have with the wii is that its hard for me to vedge out on the couch and play some of the games.. gotta be too mobile.. heh heh
[06:02] <Dr_willis> too lazy to play the wii.
[06:02] <rhpot1991> well thats the games you are playing
[06:02] <rhpot1991> like mario galaxy, the extend of moving is shaking the wiimote to make mario do a spinmove
[06:03] <rhpot1991> games like RE4 and metroid prime you just point at the screen
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Noticed that way too many DS games are using the PEN thing also  when its not really needed.. just because they can i guess.
[06:03] <rhpot1991> well its the obligatory "ds functionality" they have to toss in everything they make
[06:03] <rhpot1991> zelda for the ds was pure stylus control though, and fantastic
[06:05] <Dr_willis> and i aint going to even try it - because i hate the stylus. :)
[06:05] <rhpot1991> you should go look for a demo somewhere
[06:05] <rhpot1991> it works very very well
[06:05] <rhpot1991> also things like the stylus pen help for longer gameplay
[06:05] <rhpot1991> instead of using that tiny thing
[06:06] <rhpot1991> I still think advance wars is the best ds game though, been out since launch and I still play it
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Yep - i liked Advanced wars.. the sequal was neat in ways.. but it seemed that too many levels were just made tough by being outgunned at the start 10 to 1
[06:09] <rhpot1991> I never really played the gba ones, just the ds one, but I played the heck out of that game
[06:09] <rhpot1991> it was all about who you picked and what powers you used really
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Im not even sure i got the DS one now that you mention it...
[06:10] <Dr_willis> may have to check that out.
[06:10] <rhpot1991> it came out when the ds did
[06:10] <rhpot1991> so you could prob find a used copy cheap now
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Oh wait i did. it had the upper and lower combat maps. i rember now..
[06:10] <rhpot1991> new one will be out next year too
[06:10] <rhpot1991> ya
[06:10] <rhpot1991> that stuff was a pain
[06:10] <rhpot1991> new one is going to have interweb play too
[06:12] <rhpot1991> gonna disappear for a bit to play some galaxy
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm. What was that ball rolling into a bigger ball game.. wife may like tha tone
[11:15] <MythbuntuGuest36> Hello! Is it possible with Mythtv to browse a CD so that, if it contains audio, video or picture files, whatch them without the need to import them?
[12:52] <MythbuntuGuest36> hello
[12:53] <MythbuntuGuest36> I have a question about how to turn off ACPI on boot up. I am new to XFCE.
[12:54] <MythbuntuGuest36> How to do I turn ACPI on boot off? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[12:55] <directhex|bsp> add "noacpi" as a kernel boot parameter in menu.lst
[12:55] <directhex|bsp> but turning off acpi is bad for your health. some modern systems won't boot without it
[12:55] <MythbuntuGuest36> Maybe there is another option then, and I will describe the problem.
[12:56] <MythbuntuGuest36> I have a motherboard with onboard video (GeForce6100). It also has a PCIe slot.
[12:56] <MythbuntuGuest36> I want to add a PCIe card for DVI output.
[12:57] <MythbuntuGuest36> When I do this, I first connect the video monitor to the analog out on the PCIe card.
[12:57] <MythbuntuGuest36> The system boots to a black screen.
[12:57] <MythbuntuGuest36> I do adjust the BIOS so that it initializes the PCIe first on boot.
[12:58] <MythbuntuGuest36> The BIOS does not allow me to disable the onboard video and there is no jumper on the motherboard to disable it.
[12:58] <MythbuntuGuest36> The PCIe card is a GeForce 8400GS.
[12:59] <MythbuntuGuest36> What could cause the black screen from simply adding a PCIe card?
[12:59] <MythbuntuGuest36> Could this be an ACPI issue?
[13:00] <directhex|bsp> when  you say "boots to a black screen", there is never any output at all?
[13:02] <MythbuntuGuest36> It has been a few days and I must go from memory...I believe that there was the boot up screen and the XFCE loading screen. But the desktop never shows up, it just goes black.
[13:02] <MythbuntuGuest36> I do have the nv driver loaded.
[13:03] <directhex|bsp> nv, the open-source unaccelerated 2d driver?
[13:04] <MythbuntuGuest36> Yes..I have tried to use the proprietary driver with the onboard video, but this appears to be incompatible with the motherboard video because it will cause the system to boot to a black screen.
[13:05] <MythbuntuGuest36> I am quite perplexed.
[13:05] <directhex|bsp> well, ACPI is entirely irrelevant to the problem, that much is clear. can you post an xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log from a failed boot somewhere? retrieve them via a network if need be
[13:06] <MythbuntuGuest36> To retrieve them from the network...I might need to first enable folder shares because when this happens I usually have to reinstall the system.
[13:07] <MythbuntuGuest36> Do I need to use SSH or will enabling folder share be enough? I am new to XFCE.
[13:08] <directhex|bsp> using ssh is significantly easier. you can transfer files using "scp remotemachine:/path/to/file ."
[13:09] <MythbuntuGuest36> I won't need ssh if I use the suggested command?
[13:09] <directhex|bsp> scp transfers a file from an ssh server. you need to install the "ssh" package on the machine
[13:11] <MythbuntuGuest36> Lastly, if my memory is incorrect and the black screen appears all the way throughout the boot process with the PCIe card installed. Do you have the same advice (look at log files) or is there another possible fix?
[13:12] <directhex|bsp> which board is this exactly?
[13:12] <directhex|bsp> and out of curiosity, why are you using an aftermarket graphics card?
[13:18] <MythbuntuGuest36> Sorry it took so long, I looked up the exact model. It is a Foxconn 6150K8MA-8EKRS (939 AMD)
[13:19] <MythbuntuGuest36> I can only get the onboard video card working, which is a GeForce 6100 GPU. I would like to use a GeForce 8400GS PCIe that I just purchased.
[13:19] <directhex|bsp> why, specifically, do you want to use an 8400gs?
[13:20] <MythbuntuGuest36> I want to connect this to a TV and the 8400GS has TV out and the motherboard does not.
[13:21] <MythbuntuGuest36> All very good questions...
[13:22] <MythbuntuGuest36> I was thinking that this would be possible assuming that the proprietary nvidia drivers supports the videocard outputs.
[13:23] <MythbuntuGuest36> Is there an alternate solution?
[13:23] <directhex|bsp> which proprietary driver are you using? there are 3, only 1 of them supports your kit
[13:24] <directhex|bsp> well. not quite. that's where it gets confusing. the onboard is supported by one driver, the discrete by another
[13:24] <MythbuntuGuest36> I have only tried the proprietary nvidia driver from the repository.
[13:24] <directhex|bsp> there are three in the repository. only one will work with an 8400
[13:25] <MythbuntuGuest36> It would be the new proprietary driver.
[13:25] <MythbuntuGuest36> Not the legacy.
[13:26] <directhex|bsp> definitely nvidia-glx-new and not nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[13:26] <MythbuntuGuest36> Yes, the nvidia-glx-new is what I have installed.
[13:26] <MythbuntuGuest36> Is there another solution for getting video out to TV?
[13:27] <directhex|bsp> okay, i need to see the log & config file then
[13:28] <MythbuntuGuest36> I know that the PVR-350 has TV out, but this seems like it has its own issues.
[13:30] <directhex|bsp> an enormous pile of them, completely unrelated to my last question
[13:34] <MythbuntuGuest36> I will obtain the log and config file tonight after I return from work.
[13:34] <MythbuntuGuest36> directhex - thank you so much for helping me and giving me advice. It is hugely appreciated.
[13:35] <MythbuntuGuest36> I will return with the necessary information. Again, many thanks for giving me a direction to a possible solution.
[14:12] <sebrock> How can I set mythbuntu to turn off screen after 15 minutes of inactivity?
[14:12] <sebrock> right now it is only turning on a black screensaver
[16:28] <rhpot1991> boy this mybook drive is driving me crazy
[16:31] <rhpot1991> it seemed to be working well after I changed my fstab to better suit a usb drive, but my system lost it today, isn't even seeing /dev/sdc right now
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> don't refer to removable media usnig /dev/sd*
[16:48] <directhex|bsp> use /dev/disk/by-uuid (or UUID= in fstab)
[16:49] <rhpot1991> I do do UUID in my fstab
[16:50] <rhpot1991> just trying to xfs_check it using /dev/sdc1
[16:50] <rhpot1991> machine can't even fdisk /dev/sdc right now (I'm at work so I can't do anything else)
[16:51] <rhpot1991> I'll have to unplug it and plug it back in when I get home from work and see what happens then, I'll probably take it back to circuit city and see if I can get it exchanged for a new one
[20:50] <padan> does anyone have a recomendation for a remote control?
[20:50] <padan> would like to use it to control other media components if possible
[20:58] <tgm4883> MCEUSB2
[20:58] <tgm4883> although it doesn't control other media components except your tv
[21:03] <rhpot1991> padan what kind of tuner do you have?
[21:03] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: do your dvd rips ever time out?
[21:07] <padan> I just use mythtv for streaming media i already have
[21:07] <padan> no capturing
[21:08] <padan> tgm, this is from hauppauge ?
[21:11] <rhpot1991> http://www.amazon.com/Kinamax-RC-MCE-Control-Receiver-Windows/dp/B000VCOMYW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1196975448&sr=8-3
[21:11] <rhpot1991> is what tgm is saying
[21:12] <rhpot1991> actually thats not an official m$ one
[21:12] <rhpot1991> I searched on amazon for 'mce remote' and you get a bunch of them there
[21:18] <padan> oh
[21:18] <padan> anything that is offical microsoft media center crap?
[21:18] <padan> that works by default?
[21:18] <padan> more or less
[21:21] <rhpot1991> I believe so, though I don't have one
[21:21] <padan> ok
[21:21] <padan> then i will just run over to crapbuy and see what they ahve
[21:21] <rhpot1991> I'd call first
[21:22] <rhpot1991> when I was looking for one I showed up at my best buy and they didn't have any
[21:22] <padan> please... like the people that work at best buy know the difference between a remote control and a car stereo
[21:22] <rhpot1991> true
[21:22] <rhpot1991> you can check in store on their website
[21:22] <padan> true
[21:22] <rhpot1991> I ended up getting a hauppauge tuner and I use the remote that came with that
[21:23] <JThundley> good stuff
[21:24] <padan> do those crap stick usb tuners work with  mythtv?
[21:24] <rhpot1991> if it interests you, I use a one for all universal remote for a box that has a hauppauge card in it
[21:24] <padan> i think i have one of those hdtv ones lying around
[21:24] <rhpot1991> you can program them to use the hauppauge codes
[21:24] <rhpot1991> also the logitecs will do the same
[21:24] <rhpot1991> I think most don't, its hit or miss
[21:24] <padan> i have one of the harmonys now
[21:25] <rhpot1991> cheapest bet would be to get get an IR receiver and use that, though your cheapest receiver might be the one that comes with the mce remote
[21:25] <padan> ya thats what im reading
[21:34] <tgm4883> get a serial ir reciever and use whatever remote you want
[21:34] <tgm4883> anyway back to work
[23:51] <mindframe-> is mplayer compiled for multithreading by default?
[23:52] <mindframe-> (the version in mythbuntu)
[23:55] <directhex> if you mean the h264 codec, no, it's too old