| nosrednaekim | stdin: looks like that package works fine.. | 01:23 |
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| nosrednaekim | stdin: wrote a simple little program and it works as its supposed to. tried writing a little bit more complicated one and its not working, but I think thats MY problem | 01:24 |
| stdin | nosrednaekim: great, thanks for testing. it is svn so there are probably some bugs in it anyway | 01:24 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: Its definately my error, QImage doesn't have some of the methods i'm used to so I can figure out how to actually display the dang thing. XD | 01:25 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: hey, this might be useful for the upcoming pyqt/kde4 info session.... its all the qt 4.3 docs translated to python http://docs.huihoo.com/pyqt/pyqt4/html/classes.html | 01:28 |
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| stdin | nosrednaekim: there's also /usr/share/doc/python-kde4-doc/html/allclasses.html in -doc :) | 01:31 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: thats just kde4.. | 01:31 |
| nosrednaekim | this is all of qt | 01:31 |
| stdin | there's probably something in python-qt4-doc too | 01:32 |
| stdin | but I don't feel like reading it now, I'm too tired | 01:32 |
| nosrednaekim | hmm true XD | 01:32 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: not to bother you, but did you figure out the pykdedocs thing? | 01:33 |
| stdin | figure what out exactly? | 01:33 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: did you package it? its in none of the packages. | 01:34 |
| stdin | all the docs that came with pykde4 are in -doc | 01:35 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: but this is a docbrowser which is included in pykde4, it provides interactive editing and stuff. | 01:36 |
| stdin | I can't find that in the source | 01:37 |
| nosrednaekim | "python installdocs.py" in the top level source (is what it looks like from the html page in the docs) | 01:37 |
| stdin | nosrednaekim: nope http://stdin.pastebin.com/d34f5e142 | 01:38 |
| nosrednaekim | weird!.... let me upload the HTML page i'm looking at.. | 01:39 |
| nosrednaekim | http://stdin.pastebin.com/m363c336c | 01:41 |
| stdin | example/ doesn't even exist | 01:42 |
| nosrednaekim | wow. | 01:42 |
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| jjesse | good evenng, does anyone have a debian kde install running that could check somehting for me? | 03:26 |
| * Hobbsee does not | 03:36 | |
| jjesse | just curious as to if Users Folder should be Users' Folder and corresponds in KDE (via system menu) | 03:40 |
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| buz | i'm trying to come up with a solution for a randr 1.2 dual head issue | 09:00 |
| buz | basically, xrandr can do dual head, but it won't allow higher resolution than (widest screen)^2 unless you create a virtual display higher than that in xorg.conf | 09:01 |
| buz | there ought to be a more easy way for that | 09:01 |
| alleeHol | buz: well, if 'virtual display' would be adjusted automaticly by the xserver.... ;) | 09:13 |
| alleeHol | buz: but that something for upstream. | 09:13 |
| buz | well i'm not sure what xorg 7.3 does | 09:14 |
| buz | should probably try it on hardy first | 09:14 |
| buz | gutsy's X is a weird beast, to say the least | 09:14 |
| buz | btw, allee you have a latitude d830 right? | 09:14 |
| alleeHol | buz: right. And for whatever reason I had this morning much X trouble I never had before | 09:15 |
| buz | do you have the docking station for it? | 09:15 |
| alleeHol | yeap | 09:15 |
| buz | did you get hot dokcing to work? | 09:15 |
| buz | mine freezes unless i suspend it first | 09:15 |
| sebastian^ | good morning folks | 09:16 |
| alleeHol | buz: I've plugged in without noticeable problem. But for undock I have to suspend/hibernate first, but it's this the same for windows? (never tried) | 09:16 |
| alleeHol | sebastian^: morning | 09:16 |
| buz | no idea, i cant stand windows for long enough | 09:16 |
| buz | what alsa version do you run? | 09:17 |
| buz | (i've seen plenty of weird differences between alsa versions) | 09:17 |
| alleeHol | buz: the backport module | 09:17 |
| buz | oh right | 09:17 |
| buz | i'm using 1.0.15 against 2.6.23.9 right now | 09:17 |
| alleeHol | I'm still patient and use whatever kubuntu archive give me (well, not always ;) | 09:18 |
| buz | i have tried 2.6.24rc4 (finally comes with ipw3945 drivers) but i cant compile alsa against it | 09:18 |
| buz | and stock alsa doesnt support audio | 09:18 |
| alleeHol | I assume next alsa snapshot will support linux rc snapshot again | 09:19 |
| buz | i hope so. i have filed a bug report anyway | 09:20 |
| alleeHol | this can't hurt | 09:20 |
| buz | and maybe next alsa will finally allow for use of volume buttons again when using the docking station :) | 09:20 |
| alleeHol | buz: I use an apply keyboard and volume buttons work with the doching station ;) | 09:21 |
| buz | well they move the master slider in my case. which is somehow not at all useful for the docking station port | 09:21 |
| buz | that one seems to be driven by pcm slider | 09:21 |
| buz | suffice to say, i have come to passionately hate alsa | 09:22 |
| alleeHol | one can tell kmix what slider to move afair | 09:22 |
| * alleeHol fires amarok and tries ... | 09:22 | |
| buz | well the master slider controls the headphone port :P | 09:22 |
| buz | which is useful when not docked | 09:22 |
| alleeHol | buz: ah right, that what I use when docked. Forgot to test if docking audio out if working with new linux backport modules | 09:23 |
| buz | i have had limited success with backport, so at some point i gave up on it | 09:24 |
| buz | the saddest part: on 2.6.22-12 with alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1 everything worked... | 09:24 |
| allee | buz: I can confirm (unvoluntarily) that unpluging without suspend, freezes the d830 :( | 09:29 |
| buz | any place where one should report that? | 09:30 |
| buz | of course, suspend isnt entirely the nicest thing either, because after resume cpufreq stops working :( | 09:30 |
| allee | buz: I assume that's kernel business. AFAIR when I press the 'unlock' button an 'undock' event is received. but that's all | 09:32 |
| buz | that button doesnt really seem to much at all on windows, iirc | 09:33 |
| buz | i pressed it once for the heck of it, not much result | 09:33 |
| buz | (same on thinkpads, btw) | 09:33 |
| allee | can't remember I've only booted twice into vista when I bought the laptop | 09:34 |
| buz | oh i bought mine without OS :) | 09:34 |
| buz | vista amounts to cruel and unusual punishment in my book | 09:34 |
| allee | buz: I was curious. But obviously not very long. so at the end it was a waste ;) | 09:35 |
| buz | oh i already had the experience on a thinkpad | 09:35 |
| buz | no desire to repeat it | 09:35 |
| buz | like you, i booted it about 2 or 3 times | 09:36 |
| allee | yeah, next a d630 is ordered without os already ;) | 09:36 |
| allee | buz: what I dislike most is that qt can handle only one dpi setting. So a highres laptop display and a normal TFT monitor do not look good together | 09:37 |
| buz | oh yeah | 09:37 |
| buz | tell me about it. i have a 1920x1200 display in the notebook and a 24" next to it | 09:37 |
| buz | one way or another, it looks weird | 09:37 |
| Serega | good day | 09:37 |
| buz | running it at 120dpi is sort of a workable compromise | 09:38 |
| allee | the d630 will have 100 dpi also and will as 'workstation' | 09:38 |
| buz | well i consider 100dpi to be too low | 09:38 |
| buz | i'd get a 17" 1920x1200 lcd if i could | 09:38 |
| allee | buz: I've given up and use the laptop with lid closed. Everything else is too anoying | 09:38 |
| buz | nah i need the two screens | 09:38 |
| buz | i usuually run irc, im and email on the notebook | 09:38 |
| buz | work on the 24" | 09:38 |
| * Jucato waves hello from a corner of the room... | 09:39 | |
| buz | but this 24" is crud. the first one i got on tuesday made humming noise. so i returned it only to get another one that's is humming | 09:39 |
| buz | acer's quality control must be inexistant | 09:39 |
| allee | buz: afaiu the big docking station can have an GFX card. So maybe with this you can use 2 TFT monitors | 09:39 |
| buz | actually you can run two screens with the small one | 09:40 |
| buz | the internatl screen will stop working | 09:40 |
| buz | i was really surprised when i noticed that | 09:40 |
| allee | mhmm, right. xrandr seems to hint it as vga is listed | 09:40 |
| buz | yeah you force it to do that | 09:41 |
| buz | i have been in fact thinking of getting two 24" :) | 09:41 |
| buz | but i actually like the 150dpi screen in the notebook | 09:41 |
| buz | so i decided not to | 09:41 |
| allee | yeah, highres is nice in linux (and unusable in windows and gnome before feisty) | 09:43 |
| buz | so what | 09:43 |
| buz | sadly, you cant use composite on such big dual head | 09:43 |
| buz | but then again, composite is more of a playtoay anyway | 09:44 |
| allee | but I like the external big screen more than suffering using different dpi settings | 09:44 |
| buz | give using vga and dvi thru docking station a try | 09:45 |
| buz | should give you external dual head | 09:45 |
| allee | mhm, composite should work, if it would not be blacklisted. I have Virtual 4096 1296 and hw accel is still working | 09:46 |
| allee | heah, I will try the 2 tfts at work. Thx for the hint!! | 09:47 |
| buz | is that nvidia or gma? | 09:47 |
| buz | you work around the blacklisting | 09:47 |
| buz | SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace | 09:47 |
| allee | gma | 09:48 |
| buz | lets see if x crashes | 09:48 |
| buz | oh it works | 09:49 |
| buz | sort of | 09:49 |
| buz | the usual weirdness around kde menu bars | 09:49 |
| buz | NEAT | 09:49 |
| buz | maybe someone could fix kwin_composite to work on gma some day :) | 09:49 |
| allee | yeah. | 09:49 |
| buz | i could live with compiz save for the borders around some elements | 09:50 |
| allee | mhmm, I should try later with a kde4 (svn) session | 09:50 |
| buz | i havent get it to work in opengl mode | 09:50 |
| buz | it does something in xrender mode, but not quite what i would expect | 09:50 |
| buz | uhm lol | 09:51 |
| buz | the last edge of the screen where the desktop should reside is not redrawing | 09:51 |
| buz | is kdesktop living within kwin? | 09:51 |
| allee | ? no they are 2 different progs in kde3. in kde4 desktop and panel are merged into plasma | 09:53 |
| buz | ok so that was x crashing :P | 09:55 |
| allee | hehe :) | 09:55 |
| buz | so much for compiz | 09:55 |
| buz | seen a kwin_composite video on planet | 09:55 |
| buz | sure looks neat if only it would work | 09:55 |
| allee | I've only interested in the better handling of multible desktop and windows that composite make possible. | 09:57 |
| buz | well things like live icons when hovering over task bars or expose are very neat | 10:01 |
| buz | wobbly windows are good to shut up osx users, but other than that? not really useful | 10:01 |
| allee | :) | 10:02 |
| Riddell | kwin_composite works surpringly well for me | 10:03 |
| buz | alt tab with window brightness adjusting is also useful | 10:05 |
| buz | i dont really believe in transparent windows though | 10:05 |
| buz | but you're on nvidia right? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | no | 10:34 |
| Riddell | S3 | 10:34 |
| Riddell | no accelarated support at all | 10:34 |
| * Hobbsee frowns that windows has no compiz | 10:35 | |
| Riddell | vista has compositing | 10:35 |
| buz | yeah and unlike compiz, vista is actually stable | 10:36 |
| buz | it may not be particularly fast or pretty, but it never crashed on me | 10:38 |
| * Hobbsee isn't using vista | 10:38 | |
| * allee never tried/knows about kwin_composite | 10:40 | |
| buz | not sure whether the blame lies with the kubuntu pcakges, but kde4rc1 is still entirely unusable in my view | 10:42 |
| buz | (judging from statements on planet, it probably isnt kubuntu related) | 10:42 |
| buz | in my view, this is beta1 quality | 10:42 |
| \sh | buz, compositing on kde4 is far away from being stable...yes, but you could help to make it stable | 10:44 |
| buz | \sh: i cant even reliably START kde4 | 10:44 |
| buz | for example, on my own account it crashes without any notice | 10:45 |
| buz | pretty hard to debug | 10:45 |
| \sh | buz, it's not for the normal user...kde4 will be a release for people coding with kde...kde 4.1 will be more for the masses... | 10:46 |
| buz | yeah i know | 10:46 |
| allee | buz: rc1 had unfortunate timing. One week later svn worked much better. | 10:47 |
| allee | I've compile kdesvn ~ 2 per week and it getting better and better. No proble with plasma in the last weeks | 10:47 |
| buz | allee: do you put your build on ppa? | 10:48 |
| \sh | hmmm...do the kubuntu packages have debug enabled? | 10:48 |
| Riddell | \sh: kdelibs and pimlibs do if you install the -dbg package | 10:48 |
| \sh | Riddell, so it should be easy to debug for people knowing their gdb | 10:49 |
| Riddell | \sh: should be | 10:52 |
| Riddell | as long as the issue is in libs | 10:52 |
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| Riddell | jpatrick: no reply from sime so I guess we can just move the tutorial times | 11:34 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: 17:00UTC you wanted? | 11:34 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: yep | 11:35 |
| jpatrick | thank you :) | 11:35 |
| Riddell | Jucato: could you update your forum posts with the new timetable on KubuntuTutorialsDay | 11:40 |
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| Riddell | stdin: would you fancy making a kde4 meta package? | 11:57 |
| Jucato | Riddell: will do | 12:05 |
| Jucato | Riddell: what's the new time? 17:00 UTC? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay isn't updated yet | 12:11 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: we've swapped the packaging and pykde4 things around | 12:12 |
| Jucato | ah ok. so the starting time for the whole day is still the same? | 12:12 |
| jpatrick | yep | 12:12 |
| Jucato | ah ok. silly me :P | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | it looks like kde4 is broken today... | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | dolphin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libdolphinprivate.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN24KDirSortFilterProxyModel16staticMetaObjectE | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | probably needs rebuilt against a newly updated lib or something.... | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is that known problem ? | 12:39 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: probably you have the new rc libs but not kdebase | 13:16 |
| Riddell | it's still compiling | 13:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah oki | 13:16 |
| nosrednaekim | RC2 is out? | 13:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: 3.97 right ? | 13:17 |
| nosrednaekim | yup | 13:17 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes | 13:17 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: not yet | 13:17 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: adding -f option support to kdesudo | 13:17 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: and toonight the -t | 13:17 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: will they be out by the end of the day? I can't DL over the weekend. | 13:18 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: no | 13:18 |
| nosrednaekim | k | 13:18 |
| nosrednaekim | I can have patience...... I think :D | 13:19 |
| Serega | I have found a bug related to kdesudo today's morning | 13:25 |
| Riddell | poke Tonio_ | 13:25 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: which is ? | 13:25 |
| Riddell | it doesn't work with system settings for one | 13:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: already fixed | 13:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll plan to release new tarball and package today | 13:27 |
| Serega | Tonio_: if I plug removable media during e.g. Adept works, there are two windows "What to do" appear. One from my user and another from root | 13:27 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: that one is interesting | 13:28 |
| Tonio_ | lemme try to reproduce | 13:28 |
| Serega | Tonio_: as a result if I choose the root's prompt, I will not be able to umount the media via "Safely remove" | 13:28 |
| Tonio_ | which makes sense | 13:28 |
| Tonio_ | now the big deal is "where is my usb key ?" :) | 13:29 |
| Serega | Tonio_: yeah. I found it out due to different system and my user locales :) | 13:29 |
| Serega | so I got 2 prompts on different languages | 13:29 |
| Serega | :) | 13:29 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: one for root and one for the user..... | 13:32 |
| Serega | aha.... maybe two instances of some KDE services are up? | 13:32 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: just found a microsd + adapter, let's test | 13:32 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: I suspect so | 13:32 |
| Tonio_ | ran without adept -> works | 13:32 |
| Serega | true | 13:33 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: no problem here with new kdesudo codebase | 13:33 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: fancy testing with new deb file ? | 13:34 |
| Serega | Tonio_: I trapped into it on current gutsy | 13:34 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: you'll find a package here : http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/ | 13:34 |
| Serega | test it for you? | 13:35 |
| Tonio_ | please, since I can't seem to reproduce, I'll like you to confirm :) | 13:35 |
| Serega | I'm at work now :( | 13:35 |
| Tonio_ | ah..... well when you have time, please report to me if that worked :) | 13:35 |
| Serega | Tonio_: I wiil be able to test in evening | 13:35 |
| Serega | Tonio_: ok, of cause | 13:36 |
| Serega | *course | 13:36 |
| Tonio_ | super | 13:36 |
| * Serega forgot :) | 13:36 | |
| Tonio_ | Serega: I suspect that'll fix the issue, as kdesudo has been mostly rewritten recently | 13:36 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: fixes almost all bugs reported to launchpad btw | 13:36 |
| Serega | Tonio_: you rock! | 13:37 |
| Tonio_ | Serega: I try to, at least, which is a good step to eventually, in a far future.... :) | 13:39 |
| Serega | :) | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: for the -t option, it looks like kdesudo already uses shell by default, due to sudo | 13:42 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: probably just adding a fake option for cmdline compatibility would suffice | 13:42 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: can you give me a use case to reproduce current problem ? | 13:47 |
| === Igorots is now known as Knightlust | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: Any thoughts about maybe putting ktnef in Main for Hardy? Personally, I get enough broken mail from Outlook/Exchange users in my work that I'd be pretty well dead without it. | 13:57 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've never worked out what TNEF files are | 14:02 |
| Riddell | /win 13 | 14:02 |
| Riddell | tsk | 14:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's a non-standard MIME type that either Outlook or Echange (not sure which) wraps around attachments in some configurations. | 14:02 |
| ScottK | So the people I work with that have that config, when I get attachments from them they are totally unreadable in Kmail without Ktnef. | 14:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do you think we should have it on the CD? | 14:03 |
| ScottK | With it, it's click, click, open the attachment. | 14:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It would be very nice for interoperability to have it. | 14:03 |
| ScottK | Given there are space constraints, I'd say it's not critical. I'd have to weigh that against what you have to throw out to get it. | 14:04 |
| ScottK | I do think it should be part of the 'supported' Kubuntu package set. | 14:04 |
| ScottK | My preference would be to install it by default so this 'just works'. | 14:04 |
| === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: it seems to be a standalone application | 14:06 |
| Riddell | doesn't it get run from within kmail? | 14:06 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'll have to go back and check, but I think Kmail just knows to use it when it's installed due to mime type registration. | 14:06 |
| ScottK | It can run as a standalone, but the primary use case is from within Kmail. | 14:07 |
| ScottK | I'm currently catching up on e-mail and noticing how useful it is in the case of you get mail like this. | 14:09 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I don't like adding extra cruft to the kmenu | 14:12 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do you know if it works with NoDisplay=true in /usr/share/applications/kde/ktnef.desktop ? | 14:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. It used to not display. I don't recall exactly how it was done. Actually my first patch for Kubuntu was to enable the display (I didn't fully understand things then). | 14:13 |
| ScottK | I think so (that sounds right). | 14:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: How about install by default, but no icon? | 14:13 |
| Riddell | could be doable | 14:14 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Sounds like I have a spec to write or do you want to fold this into a higher level KDE for Hardy spec? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | ScottK: this isn't spec material | 14:16 |
| Riddell | it's just deciding if we put it in universe or main and what needs done to the menu .desktop file | 14:17 |
| Riddell | mm, no | 14:17 |
| Riddell | it's just deciding if we put it in supported or desktop and what needs done to the menu .desktop file | 14:17 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. So what would you like for me to do on this then? | 14:17 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| stdin | Riddell: meta package? | 15:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: -f done, not the easiest I must say | 15:08 |
| bddebian | Heya | 15:26 |
| morr | hello | 15:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is our kdesu still patched ? | 15:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, your sudo patches are upstream now, I forgot that | 15:29 |
| Riddell | stdin: a kde 4 version of meta-kde | 15:37 |
| Riddell | hi mendred | 15:37 |
| Riddell | hi morr | 15:37 |
| mendred | hi Riddell | 15:38 |
| stdin | Riddell: I guess I could, don't think I've made a mata package before though | 15:38 |
| maini10 | Hello, my KDE 4 installation in Hardy is broken. An error "Could not start D-bus. Check your installation" is shown when I start it. Do you think it is a bug? | 16:10 |
| nixternal | maini10: did this just start, or is this the first time you are trying to run KDE 4? | 16:15 |
| nixternal | maini10: check and make sure you have dbus-x11 installed, if not, install it | 16:16 |
| maini10 | nixternal: I'll check it | 16:17 |
| Riddell | meduxa: you may have upgraded to the new kdelibs today, but the rest hasn't compiled | 16:26 |
| Riddell | oh, he left | 16:27 |
| Riddell | sorry meduxa | 16:27 |
| meduxa | I'm here | 16:27 |
| Riddell | meduxa: was ment for someone else who started with m | 16:27 |
| meduxa | ah | 16:28 |
| === aRyn changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | 7.10 out, you all rock! | Merge away: http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Developer Meeting Wednesday 12th Dec. at 23:00 UTC | Tutorial Day a week on Thursday 13th https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay7 | ||
| skyfalcon866 | where would i upload new packages | 16:41 |
| Riddell | aRyn: why did you do that? | 16:45 |
| Riddell | hrm | 16:45 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | 7.10 out, you all rock! | Merge away: http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Developer Meeting Wednesday 12th Dec. at 23:00 UTC | Tutorial Day a week on Thursday 13th https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | ||
| Riddell | aRyn: don't mess up the topic | 16:46 |
| aRyn | sry, disconnect | 16:46 |
| aRyn | Riddell: did what? | 16:46 |
| aRyn | hmm? | 16:46 |
| aRyn | ooops | 16:46 |
| aRyn | sry, didn't want to | 16:46 |
| aRyn | missclick | 16:47 |
| stdin | Riddell: I think this should do http://stdin.me.uk/kde4/ let me know if it's ok or needs anything else | 17:21 |
| Riddell | let me look stdin | 17:23 |
| jpatrick | stdin: homepage under standards-version | 17:24 |
| stdin | heh, yeah | 17:25 |
| Riddell | standards-version is 3.7.3 now I believe | 17:26 |
| jpatrick | yep | 17:26 |
| Riddell | kde4-devel should depend on libplasma-dev I think | 17:27 |
| Riddell | Depends: kde4-core (>= 5:47) | 17:27 |
| Riddell | looks wrong | 17:27 |
| stdin | damn, I thought I changed all of those... | 17:28 |
| stdin | ok, hit refresh and it should be fixed :) | 17:29 |
| Riddell | stdin: some descriptions you've added "version 4" but not all | 17:31 |
| maini10 | nixternal: I have fixed dbus issue following your suggestion. Thanks. But now, KDE teminates about 10 seconds after start without explanation | 17:31 |
| Riddell | I think they should all have that | 17:31 |
| Riddell | maini10: do individual apps work? | 17:32 |
| stdin | ahh, was missing in kde4. didn't see that | 17:32 |
| maini10 | No, it's not possible to start KDE. | 17:32 |
| Riddell | maini10: try just starting one app | 17:33 |
| nosrednaekim | maini10: start it in a Xephyr session so that you can see the error. | 17:34 |
| stdin | Riddell: should all be fixed now | 17:41 |
| maini10 | nosrednaekim: thanks, could you give more details on what I should do? | 17:42 |
| nosrednaekim | maini10: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php | 17:44 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: should we upload beta packages? (wanna update knights) | 17:44 |
| nosrednaekim | maini10: what should explain it pretty well | 17:44 |
| nosrednaekim | *that | 17:44 |
| DaSkreech | Knights? | 17:45 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: it depends on the circumstances, is there a reason a user would want the beta over the stable version? | 17:45 |
| jpatrick | chess program | 17:45 |
| DaSkreech | Ah right of course :) | 17:45 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: will a final version be released in time for the hardy release schedule? | 17:45 |
| jpatrick | "Knights 0.6.4 Beta -- Sunday February 6th, 2005" | 17:46 |
| jpatrick | I don't think so.. | 17:46 |
| DaSkreech | Ha ha :) | 17:46 |
| maini10 | nosrednaekim: I'm unable to start Xephyr. Could you give the right command to use it? | 17:46 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: does the beta have bugs in it? | 17:47 |
| nosrednaekim | the command on that page didn't work? | 17:47 |
| jpatrick | "! Known Crash Bug during online play." - that's so useful | 17:47 |
| jpatrick | okay, forget knights. /me looks for something else to package | 17:47 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: I've got a new extragear-plasma if you fancy | 17:48 |
| jpatrick | I'll do kmplayer first | 17:49 |
| Riddell | stdin: meta-kde4 looks all good. jpatrick, any final objections to me uploading? | 17:54 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: +1 from me | 17:55 |
| stdin | yay :) | 17:55 |
| smarter | Hi | 18:02 |
| smarter | I've made a patch for bug #57666 | 18:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 57666 in kdebase "Odd quirk when trying to install SMB Printers" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57666 | 18:02 |
| smarter | Can someone please review it? | 18:02 |
| smarter | (last comment of the bug report) | 18:02 |
| Riddell | smarter: cool | 18:04 |
| Riddell | smarter: can you take me through what your patch does, it's not code I'm at all familiar with | 18:05 |
| Riddell | calling nmblookup and pasing the output? | 18:05 |
| smarter | Riddell: yes | 18:05 |
| smarter | Riddell: I've removed all the grep and sed things | 18:06 |
| smarter | Riddell: and I don't parse smbclient because the result are not always what they should be | 18:06 |
| smarter | Riddell: It's inspired by what system-config-printer does | 18:06 |
| smarter | Riddell: I've also disabled the -A<file with username and password> option for anonymous login because it's not needed and doesn't work | 18:07 |
| Riddell | smarter: so without the grep and sed bits does it still give usable output? | 18:07 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: were you going to test qt 4 and xinerama? | 18:08 |
| smarter | Riddell: yes because I check with "if (words[1] != "<00>" || words[3] == "<GROUP>")" | 18:08 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: sorry, for not testing xinerama and qt 4. My isp has some problems and I have no internet connection at home | 18:09 |
| neversfelde | ;) | 18:09 |
| neversfelde | problems should be solved tomorrow morning and I can test then, if it is still needed? | 18:09 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: actually I just found someone else to do it | 18:09 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: although a second opinion is always useful | 18:09 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: ok, i will try it | 18:09 |
| Riddell | smarter: seems all pretty sane, I don't have any way of testing it but I suppose I can just apply and ask for testers on that bug report | 18:10 |
| smarter | Riddell: thanks ;) | 18:10 |
| smarter | Riddell: I've also made another simple patch to fix bug #102753 | 18:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 102753 in adept "adept does not display utf-8 text correctly" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102753 | 18:11 |
| smarter | Which was too late for gutsy | 18:12 |
| Riddell | smarter: kdelibs patch uploaded, many thanks | 18:15 |
| Serega | smarter: pretty nice! | 18:15 |
| smarter | Serega: thank you ;) | 18:17 |
| smarter | This bug was really annoying me :P | 18:18 |
| Riddell | smarter: adept patch looks good too | 18:23 |
| Riddell | smarter: uploaded | 18:27 |
| smarter | Riddell: can it make it into gutsy-update or gutsy-backports? | 18:27 |
| Riddell | smarter: which? | 18:27 |
| Riddell | neither is serious enough for -updates | 18:27 |
| Riddell | -backports sure, just go through the normal channels | 18:27 |
| smarter | Riddell: okay, thanks | 18:27 |
| Riddell | stdin: rc 2 packages are starting to appear, do you fancy being the gutsy PPA dude again? | 18:28 |
| stdin | sure, nothing like a night of backporting kde4 to make the long winter hours fly by :p | 18:29 |
| Riddell | stdin: I'm thinking we should start a new team since I get complains if we do it in kubuntu-members | 18:29 |
| Riddell | complaints about gettings lots of error messages from ubuntu council and other people | 18:30 |
| stdin | may be a good idea, something like kde4-packages | 18:30 |
| Tm_T | :) | 18:30 |
| Riddell | stdin: exactly | 18:30 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: qgis needs merged if you're looking for things needing done | 18:32 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. Please. I get enough mail without those. | 18:33 |
| Riddell | it's a mis-feature in launchpad I'd say | 18:34 |
| Riddell | stdin: well go ahead, kde4libs, kdepimlibs, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-kde4 and kdebase-workspace seem to be ready to go | 18:35 |
| stdin | downloading already :) | 18:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: There are lots of those. | 18:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: heretic :) | 18:37 |
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| ScottK | Yeah. That'd be me. | 18:37 |
| X2B | Hey guys, I would like to create a patch for some kde files. Trouble is that I already compiled it, so there seem to be some rather useless files that I don't want to include in the patch. Is there anything like "make clean" for dpkg-buildpackage generated content?? | 18:50 |
| Riddell | X2B: debuild -S | 18:52 |
| Riddell | debuild is dpkg-buildpackage but a bit better | 18:52 |
| Riddell | -S is make a source package (which involves cleaning the sources) | 18:52 |
| Riddell | oh, jjesse, I've to reply to your e-mail | 18:54 |
| jjesse | Riddell: cool i'll read it and write back | 18:54 |
| X2B | Which package do I have to install with apt-get to get debuild?? | 18:54 |
| jjesse | hanging out in logan airport waiting for my flight | 18:55 |
| stdin | Riddell: looks like hobbsee already made a team: kubuntu-members-kde4 | 18:55 |
| Riddell | X2B: devscripts | 18:55 |
| stdin | shame she's not about to add us to it :p | 18:56 |
| Riddell | stdin: hrm | 18:56 |
| Riddell | stdin: let me ask a launchpad admin | 18:56 |
| Riddell | jjesse: going somewhere nice? | 18:56 |
| jjesse | Riddell: on my way back home from boston | 18:57 |
| jjesse | so logan airport -> chicago airport -> home | 18:57 |
| * jjesse finally qualifies for free upgrades | 18:58 | |
| Riddell | jjesse: you havn't been in boston since UDS! | 18:59 |
| jjesse | Riddell: i know that.... but i've been here all week and heading home | 19:00 |
| Riddell | ok, phew | 19:00 |
| jjesse | caught an earlier flight as well so its all good | 19:00 |
| jjesse | or will be catching an earlier flight | 19:01 |
| jpatrick_ | Riddell: please upload: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/kmplayer/ when you can | 19:02 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick_, Riddell: I'm uploading kmplayer | 19:08 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick_: uploaded | 19:09 |
| Riddell | thanks Tonio_, jpatrick_ | 19:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you're welcome | 19:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fyi, kdesudo shold be done and finished now, 100% kdesu cmdline compatible | 19:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll wait for fdoving for feedback and tests | 19:11 |
| jjesse | Riddell: when did you reply? can't find it in my mailbox | 19:12 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I havn't yet | 19:16 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I was saying your arrival reminded me I need to | 19:17 |
| jjesse | oh i thought you said you did | 19:17 |
| jjesse | bought a b luetooth keyboard for my nonki n800 and using it in the airport, its pretty cool and easy to use | 19:18 |
| jjesse | sure beets taking out my laptop | 19:18 |
| Riddell | stdin: ok, we're in | 19:18 |
| Riddell | jjesse: works with Kubuntu? | 19:18 |
| Riddell | oh, n800 | 19:18 |
| jjesse | yeah n800, i've seen people install kde on it | 19:19 |
| stdin | I just thought, I need to upload strigi, libzip, gpsd, etc again | 19:23 |
| Riddell | stdin: libvncserver and it'll need the new soprano | 19:23 |
| stdin | yeah, just got a list of what I need with some fancy grep/sed :) | 19:24 |
| stdin | Riddell: I can just grab it and reupload to the new ppa right, or do I need to change the release number? | 19:25 |
| stdin | for the non-kde4 packages that is... | 19:27 |
| Riddell | stdin: no need to change the version number | 19:30 |
| stdin | good, should be nice and simple then | 19:30 |
| Riddell | help needed folks "What are two solid reasons to choose Kubuntu over other distros?" | 19:30 |
| _buz | The only reasonably up to date KDE distro that does not use RPM | 19:31 |
| jpatrick | powerful base of Debian and Ubuntu + powerful desktop environment | 19:31 |
| jpatrick | + we're community developed | 19:31 |
| Riddell | it depends if he means compared to other ubuntu distros or compared to all other distros | 19:32 |
| Riddell | proofreaders needed http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m7baaeaa8 | 19:35 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: you left out Edubuntu? | 19:36 |
| yuriy | Why does Kubuntu exist as opposed to other distros? wow who thought up that question | 19:36 |
| yuriy | other distros don't exist? | 19:37 |
| * DaSkreech answers question 2 | 19:38 | |
| jpatrick | line 13: worlds -> world's | 19:38 |
| hdevalence | yuriy: I think the idea was "why does kubuntu exist as opposed to just using another disto" | 19:38 |
| DaSkreech | hdevalence: That's still a revealing question | 19:43 |
| yevgen | Question.. I've installed Ubuntu.. Than I've installed kubuntu-desktop and removed ubuntu-desktop.. So, what I have now? Kubuntu? :-) | 19:46 |
| jpatrick | !purekde | yevgen | 19:47 |
| ubotu | yevgen: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » | 19:47 |
| DaSkreech | jpatrick: nice knee jerk | 19:55 |
| DaSkreech | yevgen: You have both | 19:55 |
| DaSkreech | yevgen: Or if you like you can rename it your own distro and anger people who like simplicity :) | 19:55 |
| jpatrick | DaSkreech: I thought he/she only wanted kde | 19:55 |
| jpatrick | "removed ubuntu-desktop" | 19:56 |
| DaSkreech | jpatrick: he/she just asked what they have :) | 19:56 |
| jpatrick | ah | 19:57 |
| jpatrick | ;) | 19:57 |
| mhb | good evening | 19:58 |
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| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| buz | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault anyone tried this? sounds basically like a gui to rsync? | 20:35 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I think we can sync qgis | 20:38 |
| jpatrick | (or maybe I just don't understand what this thing does...) | 20:42 |
| fdoving | buz: you can probably compare it to rsync, with the --suffix or --backup-dir options. with one dir per date, for example. and then hardlink the not-modified files. | 20:42 |
| buz | yeah | 20:42 |
| fdoving | or rdiff-backup. | 20:43 |
| buz | that's basically what i do to backup my home dir | 20:43 |
| fdoving | which i use alot. | 20:43 |
| buz | actually its based upon rsync :) | 20:43 |
| buz | i dont trust rdiff-backup | 20:43 |
| buz | i've seen it fail in weird ways in the past | 20:43 |
| buz | rsync may be less efficient, but its dumb simple at least | 20:43 |
| fdoving | do you keep incremental backups, or just one mirror? | 20:45 |
| buz | nine generations | 20:46 |
| buz | but my home minus multimedia stuff is only 9G | 20:46 |
| fdoving | so 9 complete mirrors ? | 20:47 |
| buz | na hardlinking | 20:47 |
| fdoving | k. | 20:47 |
| fdoving | not much difference then. | 20:47 |
| buz | rdiff is more efficient in general | 20:47 |
| buz | but also a lot more complicated | 20:47 |
| buz | oh and i use duplicity for offsite storage | 20:50 |
| buz | i can very much recommend it | 20:50 |
| buz | albeit it only the one from the site, the one in the repository is way too old | 20:51 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: daily KDE4 CDs? | 21:04 |
| * Serega waves | 21:07 | |
| jpatrick | hi Serega | 21:07 |
| hdevalence | what's the difference between rdiff and rsync? | 21:07 |
| buz | rsync stores files | 21:12 |
| buz | rdiff takes binary deltas | 21:12 |
| hdevalence | what's a binary delta? | 21:28 |
| hdevalence | a binary representation of the difference? | 21:29 |
| buz | yes | 21:29 |
| buz | think of diff for binary files | 21:29 |
| buz | hence the name | 21:29 |
| nixternal_ | who tripped over the network cable? | 21:30 |
| tmske | is someone running eclipse3.3 on hardy? I get an error Java VM: Java HotSpot.... Problematic frame: C [libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0+0x11f11b] gtk_icon_set_render_icon+0x5bb | 21:30 |
| nixternal_ | tmske: I ended up grabbing eclipse from the website and installing it...Ubuntu has had the worst eclipse support I have ever seen | 21:31 |
| buz | nixternal_: given the time of the day i would expect it to be beer in the server | 21:31 |
| ScottK | nixternal_: Some MOTU ought to work on that. | 21:31 |
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| tmske | nixternal_" wel it is the one from the eclipse website... | 21:32 |
| nixternal | ScottK: someone works full time on it I thought | 21:32 |
| ScottK | nixternal: No. | 21:32 |
| nixternal | tmske: let me see if mine starts...are you using the java view I take it? | 21:32 |
| tmske | yes | 21:32 |
| ScottK | nixternal: man-di from Debian is often around to help, but no one really seems to look after it. | 21:32 |
| nixternal | tmske: should I try to create a new java file, debug one of my files? I am in Java view w/o any problems | 21:33 |
| nixternal | I am also using Sun Java and not Icedtea or gcj (which should get thrown out since it is useless) | 21:33 |
| tmske | nixternal: well it just doesn't start... and I'm using java-sun6 | 21:34 |
| nixternal | ScottK: sounds like a new project for me then :) | 21:34 |
| nixternal | it is working for me | 21:34 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Perfect. | 21:34 |
| nixternal | going to start it up in java view | 21:34 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Get it fixed up in Hardy and then we'll do a backport. | 21:34 |
| nixternal | works fine here | 21:34 |
| nixternal | ScottK: ya, cuz it sucks in every release thus far | 21:34 |
| nixternal | couple of weeks ago I reverted to using Eclipse on Fedora, who I must say has the most beautiful representation for it, because it was broke for me | 21:35 |
| ScottK | nixternal: For Gutsy I got it from FTBFS to at least builds. | 21:35 |
| ScottK | Maybe jdong could be convinced to do for Ecplise what he did for Azureus. | 21:36 |
| buz | the one time i had to use eclipse i took it from vanilla binaries and it worked just fine | 21:36 |
| buz | except for the fact that it is bloody gtk of course | 21:36 |
| tmske | nixternal: this is the log of eclipse, maybe you see something http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47284/ | 21:36 |
| Scorcerer | hello | 21:43 |
| mhb | hi | 21:43 |
| nixternal | tmske: you know what....there is a sigsev with netbeans right now, and I am wondering if this is related? | 21:48 |
| * nixternal looks really quick | 21:48 | |
| nixternal | nope, they don't look the same | 21:51 |
| tmske | nixternal: is the netbeans thing a bug, or would it work for me, I could install netbeans for now to do some java stuff... | 21:52 |
| nixternal | try to install netbeans and see if it works for you, it definitely doesn't work for me right now | 21:53 |
| nixternal | it is a locking issue with the jvm | 21:53 |
| nixternal | java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed | 21:53 |
| tmske | nixternal: netbeans from website or from apt? | 21:53 |
| nixternal | I have it installed from the repos | 21:54 |
| nixternal | everytime we had a sun-java update around here, it would constantly break netbeans from the website | 21:54 |
| tmske | ok, ill try it | 21:54 |
| mhb | Riddell: have you tried to get the Drupal finally up? | 21:57 |
| tmske | should I report my eclipse problem as a bug, or do you think it's a fault of mine? | 21:58 |
| mhb | the admin behaviour really demotivates me, to be honest. | 21:58 |
| nixternal | report it as a bug...maybe someone has experienced the same and if it isn't a bug you can at least get it fixed..but right now, I would say it is a bug of some sort | 21:58 |
| tmske | nixternal: netbeans crashes here too, looks like this is a bug | 21:58 |
| nixternal | probably a java bug then | 22:01 |
| tmske | nixternal: should I report it too? | 22:04 |
| nixternal | I would | 22:06 |
| tmske | ok, i will, can somebody check if they have this problem with eclipse installed from apt, I have it too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/174628 | 22:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 174628 in eclipse "eclipse not runnable after install" [Undecided,New] | 22:11 |
| tmske | nixternal: the netbeans bug is allready reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans5.5/+bug/159749 | 22:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 159749 in netbeans5.5 "[hardy] netbeans doesn't run" [Undecided,Invalid] | 22:17 |
| nixternal | OK, I confirmed the bug and changed it to a sun-java6 bug | 22:20 |
| tmske | nixternal: ok, hope it gets fixed soon | 22:21 |
| ScottK | Can it run with a different Java? | 22:22 |
| nixternal | not really | 22:23 |
| nixternal | icedtea is close, but not quite there | 22:23 |
| nixternal | gcj should never be considered a "different java", it should be considered utter garbage :) | 22:24 |
| tmske | well, I would test it with icedtea, but it wants to remove libungif4g, and some packages need it (digikam, dolphin, mplayer...) | 22:25 |
| nixternal | that is because someone needs to fix the icedtea package | 22:26 |
| nixternal | it is all about the QA! or the lack of I guess :) | 22:26 |
| nixternal | maybe I should just started merging packages w/o testing them first | 22:26 |
| ScottK | Sounds like a MOTU that knows something about Java should jump in and fix 'em up. | 22:27 |
| stdin | hey, that's my job :p | 22:27 |
| nixternal | ScottK: notice that hint of sarcasm there :) I definitely wouldn't say that with Hobbsee around though, she scares me :) | 22:27 |
| * ScottK was just saying. | 22:27 | |
| ScottK | Oooh. How about this: | 22:27 |
| nixternal | hehe | 22:27 |
| ScottK | Vista + Java = nixternal. | 22:28 |
| ScottK | She'd go for that one. | 22:28 |
| nixternal | I am using Fedora for my java work now | 22:28 |
| ScottK | So you say. | 22:28 |
| nixternal | java pays the bills man | 22:28 |
| ScottK | Understand. | 22:28 |
| nixternal | I don't have many bills, so that is bs actually :) | 22:28 |
| ScottK | It would be nice if someone who knew enough/cared fixed up our stuff. | 22:28 |
| nixternal | ScottK: now that I know there isn't a person dedicated to it, I will look at it | 22:29 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Great. | 22:29 |
| nixternal | I was told in the past to always talk to 1 person when it came to Java | 22:29 |
| nixternal | and another thing I found out too that I need to look at | 22:29 |
| nixternal | our unixODBC isn't up to part | 22:30 |
| nixternal | s/part/par | 22:30 |
| ScottK | nixternal: doko knows a lot about Java, but doesn't seem to have time to mind the Universe stuff much. | 22:30 |
| nixternal | that might be who I talked to in the past, but I don't remember | 22:30 |
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| nixternal | now that this semester is coming to an end, I will definitely have more time | 22:30 |
| nixternal | now I am working with a doubly linked list c++ project that just flat out annoys me | 22:31 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: do we rm locale files from k3b-i18n? | 22:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kdebase-workspace ftbfs | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: testing locally, seems to work now, probably due to missing kdelibs5 when building yesterday | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should I reupload now ? | 22:33 |
| tmske | a completly different question, does command-not-found work for you? mine just crahed :) | 22:33 |
| stdin | tmske: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/174305 | 22:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 174305 in command-not-found "command-not-found package need depends python-gdbm" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | tmske: does not work with zsh, so I never used it :) | 22:33 |
| nixternal | speaking of doko, he just uploaded a new jython | 22:34 |
| Tonio_ | anyone fancy testing newest kdesudo ? | 22:35 |
| Tonio_ | I'd like to get a few people to test it before releasing package + tarball | 22:35 |
| tmske | stdin: indeed :-) | 22:35 |
| nixternal | Tonio_: link me to the deb...I removed kdesudo because it was messing stuff up a couple of weeks ago | 22:36 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: oki ;) | 22:37 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp | 22:37 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: this upload should fix I think all opened bugs on launchpad | 22:38 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: fdoving validated the fixes for most of them | 22:38 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: -n, -t, -f and -s cmdline options of kdesu have been added | 22:40 |
| nixternal | hey, works with system settings again, that's a plus :) | 22:40 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: shoouldn't cause any problems with other kde apps this time, I hope | 22:40 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: just one question | 22:40 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: have you already seen the -t option of kdesu working ? | 22:40 |
| nixternal | never paid attention truthfully | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: supposed to terminal output, but seems not to work on kubuntu due to sudo patches | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: oki, I'll test on opensuse or another distro to confirm it's broken on kubuntu | 22:41 |
| nixternal | what does -t do? | 22:41 |
| nixternal | oh, never mind, you already said what it does | 22:42 |
| Tonio_ | terminal output, but doesn't work with kde's kdesu :) | 22:42 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: btw, works with kdesudo now | 22:42 |
| Riddell | mhb: I keep poking about drupal, no useful response yet | 22:43 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: we remove translations from all packages in main, and put them in language packs | 22:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ask for a give back | 22:44 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: ok, I'll tell that to the guy at bug 161049 | 22:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 161049 in k3b-i18n "k3b-i18n package in Gutsy does NOT contain any translations - only help files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161049 | 22:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what's a "give back" ? | 22:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: a retry of the compile | 22:45 |
| jpatrick | done | 22:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: how to ? | 22:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you can ask hobbsee or pitti | 22:45 |
| Riddell | e-mail them probably best | 22:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki, no need to post a bug for this ? | 22:46 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no | 22:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will do | 22:46 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: could you possibly backport krita-plugins? bug 174755 | 22:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 174755 in gutsy-backports "Please backport krita-plugins (1.6.2-0ubuntu1) from Hardy" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174755 | 22:47 |
| mhb | Riddell: thanks for the info. | 22:47 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'll try poking management on monday, it's getting a bit rediculous | 22:47 |
| nixternal | Riddell: trying to poke sys admins about server stuff? | 22:48 |
| nixternal | I have to, for the past 2 months | 22:49 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: done | 22:49 |
| jpatrick | thanks | 22:49 |
| Riddell | nixternal: for what? | 22:49 |
| nixternal | loco website | 22:50 |
| Riddell | mm, right | 22:50 |
| nixternal | we still have a download 7.04 image and what not on our page | 22:50 |
| stdin | Riddell: in kdebase-workspace the build-dep " kdepimlibs5-dev (>= 3.97.0)" should probably be " kdepimlibs5-dev (>= 4:3.97.0)" (missing epoch) | 23:35 |
| Riddell | stdin: hrm, I made that change but I don't seem to have uploaded it | 23:38 |
| Riddell | stdin: uploaded | 23:48 |
| * stdin grabs it | 23:49 | |
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