[00:00] <narothepharoh> can someone guide me through the process of installing a .deb file please
[00:00] <stdin> double click it
[00:01] <Xcell> .
[00:03] <matias_> holas
[00:03] <matias_> SOY NUEVO AQUI
[00:03] <stdin> !es
[00:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:03] <matias_> HOLA
[00:04] <matias_> alguien de argentina
[00:04] <matias_> ?
[00:05] <skyfalcon866> strigi dosent index everything
[00:05] <stdin> matias_: /join #kubuntu-es
[00:05] <jembouge> !es | matias_
[00:05] <ubotu> matias_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:06] <skyfalcon866> are there alternatives to tracker?
[00:06] <skyfalcon866> i mean strigi
[00:06] <BluesKaj> konq locate
[00:09] <pastryness> how do i delete with konsole? i need to delete /home/myuser/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[00:09] <HS^> cant install kubuntu.
[00:09] <HS^> it freezes.
[00:10] <mcrandello> pastryness: "man rm"
[00:10] <stdin> pastryness: with the "rm" command (be careful, there is no trash in console)
[00:11] <pastryness> okay thank you
[00:11] <HS^> first it shows the kubuntu loading... then it sais .. loading drivers...OK  ,,loading this doing that OK OKOK
[00:11] <pastryness> there was a stupid bug with 7.10 kubuntu
[00:11] <HS^> then i get black screen
[00:11] <pastryness> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/136458
[00:11] <pastryness> i had to delete that file.
[00:11] <stdin> or, you could have just used chown
[00:12] <stdin> chown = change owner
[00:12] <pastryness> yeah
[00:12] <pastryness> anyways
[00:12] <pastryness> thanks alot for the help stdin
[00:12] <pastryness> im off
[00:18] <HS^> stdin are you sure burning cdrom image on dvd actually works
[00:18] <HS^> it freezs here
[00:18] <stdin> HS^: yes, I've done it many times
[00:19] <Minataku> It's a complete waste of a DVD, though
[00:19] <HS^> i have no cds now
[00:19] <HS^> can i do a sort of verbose cd start
[00:19] <Minataku> !alternate
[00:19] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[00:20] <HS^> after i hit teh start installl
[00:20] <HS^> so burn anothr dvd? dont htink so
[00:20] <Minataku> Wait until tomorrow, go out, and buy a spindle of CD-Rs
[00:21] <HS^> so theres no verbose
[00:21] <HS^> that spits errors
[00:21] <mcrandello> You could try switching to a console, not sure if there's any output during install
f1 throuth f9
[00:22] <mcrandello> see if anything shows
[00:22] <HS^> i just get a completly black screen
[00:22] <HS^> no cursor
[00:22] <HS^> cd doesnt spin
[00:24] <mcrandello> scratched disk is the only other thing I could think of
[00:25] <teknoprep> hey all
[00:25] <teknoprep> how do i turn the splash screen off while booting ?
[00:25] <teknoprep> i want to see the text
[00:26] <fucter> where does krfb keep logs?
[00:26] <stdin> teknoprep: permanently  or temporarily ?
[00:26] <BluesKaj> teknoprep, system settings/splash screen/...choose none and apply
[00:26] <fucter> temp is fine
[00:26] <fucter> oh, sorry
[00:27] <mcrandello> heh
[00:28] <mcrandello> anyone know what could cause this and if there's any way to work around it? ->http://pastebin.ca/807779
[00:29] <mcrandello> I'm trying to get a portable to work in virtualbox+XP but I think it may be passing the wrong serial number to the VM
[00:43] <cWolfe> iirc mtp shouldnt be needed, since xp would do all that stuff, but i dunno, i use vmware
[00:46] <mcrandello> cWolfe: true. I just put it on for troubleshooting.
[00:46] <mcrandello> notice the serial number though, each group has the hex code reading in the reverse order
[00:47] <mcrandello> I figured mtp would show me what the microsoft drivers would be looking for
[00:47] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[00:47] <mcrandello> sup
[00:47] <tekstacy> What's a simple ftp server?
[00:47] <asshole> sup :-=
[00:48] <galathalion> very intellectual nick.
[00:48] <tekstacy> I just need to set up something small for my family
[00:49] <rcg1984> is it possible to burn .img files?  I tried K3b and tried mounting the .img file with no such luck.
[00:51] <asshole> sup
[00:51] <tekstacy> :)
[00:52] <Daisuke_Ido> !iso | rcg1984
[00:52] <ubotu> rcg1984: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[00:53] <mneptok> tekstacy: just use sftp
[00:54] <isma> buenas
[00:54] <isma> ay alguien?
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> family like on a lan?
[00:54] <isma> español??
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | isma
[00:54] <ubotu> isma: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:54] <tekstacy> is there something gui like that? :)
[00:55] <Daisuke_Ido> tekstacy: not outside machines, right?
[00:55] <Daisuke_Ido> just...  file sharing amongst a home network?
[00:55] <tekstacy> na, family spread out, wanted to make a ftp server
[00:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ahhh...
[00:55] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, sftp's your best bet
[00:55] <r4gxor> HOA
[00:55] <r4gxor> hi
[00:56] <tekstacy> does it have a gui?
[00:56] <r4gxor> how can say how shit i configure the kopete :S
[00:56] <r4gxor> i cant inside in my acount:S
[00:56] <tekstacy> or how do I set it up?
[00:57] <robotpoke> any suggestions for an admin logging application that can help one keep track of changes made to a server?
[00:57] <mcrandello> there's vsftp and supposed there's a front end for it in kde, I haven't found it yet tho
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> r4gxor: watch your language.
[00:58] <Daisuke_Ido> and aside from that, you're not making any sense
[00:58] <mcrandello> also I found this one: http://kpum.sourceforge.net/ looks like it needs to be compiled
[01:01] <tekstacy> cool, thanks
[01:02] <r4gxor> hola
[01:02] <Agent_bob> care for a visit from a stranger ?
[01:02] <r4gxor> alguien que hable español
[01:02] <Agent_bob> !es
[01:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:11] <DANCAD3D> How to get program to run in ubuntu Linux?
[01:11] <DANCAD3D> Notify me of responses
[01:11] <DANCAD3D> Hi,
[01:11] <DANCAD3D> I have compiled a small program called danp001.pas using fp in ubuntu Linux and it runs from the fp IDE, but when I click on the icon for the program in a file directory nothing happens or when I type the program's name into the terminal set to the directory the program files are in the terminal says: "bash: danp001: command not found".
[01:11] <DANCAD3D> I have right clicked on the program icon and it has the box checked for "allow executing file as program" and it shows read-write.
[01:12] <DANCAD3D> It also shows "type: executable" but the filename for the program has no extension, just the first part of the name danp001 as taken from danp001.pas and danp001.o.
[01:12] <DANCAD3D> Sorry for the beginners question, but how do I get the program to run without using the Run command in the fp IDE?
[01:12] <DANCAD3D> Thank you in advance for your help in this matter, I have the current ubuntu CD (Dec. 2007).
[01:12] <DANCAD3D> Dan aka tempnulbox
[01:12] <DANCAD3D> -- Dan Hudgins, December 06, 2007 10:28 AM
[01:14] <Agent_bob> DANCAD3D linux doesn't by default have ./ listed in it's path  you may add that from the command line via  export PATH="$PATH:./"   also applications must be set as executable.  check the permissions (ls -l /path/to/file.name)   set with  chmod 755 /path/to/file.name
[01:14] <maverick_> anyone here uses Listen Music Player ?!
[01:15] <Max-P> You have to run it with ./danp001, not juste danp001
[01:15] <Agent_bob> max or add ./ to your path
[01:16] <Agent_bob> or use full path    /blah/blah/file.name
[01:18] <hydrogen> adding . to your path is usually not that suggested
[01:18] <hydrogen> too easy for things to go wring
[01:20] <Agent_bob> i disagree.    exporting a path is only set for that one instance,  and is very useful when testing things that "could" look for other executables in the same dir
[01:22] <margaret> hey folks
[01:22] <DANCAD3D> Thanks Max-P et al. the ./programname works, I was wondering is there a file extension that is hidden or is the program just its name without an extension?
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> hey maggie
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> DANCAD3D: linux doesn't rely on extensions
[01:23] <mcrandello> DANCAD3D: The filename extensions only really mean anything inside the gui, and pretty much only for documents. Executables are set by permissions.
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> extensions in linux are solely for identification
[01:23] <margaret> bah this is my wife's computer, but my nick is already in use.
[01:24] <mcrandello>  /msg nickserv recover <passwd>
[01:24] <margaret> so , when i start kde4 it complains about dbus not starting.
[01:24] <margaret> is this really a freenode server?
[01:24] <Agent_bob> yes
[01:24] <mcrandello> yup
[01:24] <margaret> oh!
[01:24] <margaret> brb
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> margaret: yes, it is a freenode server, and try running "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[01:25] <mcrandello> margaret you've changed!
[01:25] <mcrandello> hehe
[01:25] <bearcat> Much better. I can see my penis now!
[01:25] <bearcat> anyway.
[01:25] <Agent_bob> now tell him nosrednaekim
[01:25] <bearcat> anyone had any sucess with kde4?
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> bearcat: yes, I have
 margaret: yes, it is a freenode server, and try running "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[01:26] <Ubuntu_Rocks> I rock 2.
[01:26] <Ubuntu_Rocks> bye
[01:27] <bearcat> first off let me clarify that i'm using sourcemage, but you folks have helped me on my kubuntu machine so much i though i'd come in here. I'm not a newb so i can get around the diffrences just fine. Just talk to me as though i was using kubuntu.
[01:27] <bearcat> i have recompiled and restarted dbus
[01:28] <bearcat> i have made sure that qdbus is in my path for both my user and for root.
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> bearcat: and whats the error?
[01:29] <bearcat> "Could not start D-Bus. Check your installation"
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> bearcat: how did you get the kde4 installation? packages or from SVN?
[01:30] <bearcat> if i run qdbus at the prompt i get "
[01:30] <bearcat>  Could not connect to D-Bus server:
[01:30] <bearcat> > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute dbus-launch to
[01:30] <bearcat> > autolaunch D-Bus session
[01:31] <bearcat> nosrednaekim: packages
[01:31] <DANCAD3D> Thanks for the ./programname trck, how do I get the same effect for clicking on the icon in the folder viewer?
[01:31] <bearcat> nosrednaekim: 3.962 on kdebase4, qt4 is 4.3.3
[01:31] <tekteen> DANCAD3D: you need to open it in the konsole
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> DANCAD3D: you have to "chmod -x it"
[01:33] <maverick_> could anyone tell me plz how to install mp3 playback suppor in kubuntu?!
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> !mp3
[01:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:34] <stdin> only for gutsy ^
[01:34] <DANCAD3D> When I click in "File Browser" on the program icon nothing happens, how do I get the program to start from "File Browser"?
[01:34] <maverick_> stdin: yeah gutsy thnx
[01:34] <tekteen> DANCAD3D: n
[01:34] <tekteen> sorry
[01:34] <tekteen> did not mean to type
[01:35] <tekteen> :-)
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> bearcat: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#D-Bus
[01:36] <tekteen> DANCAD3D: I do not think there is a way
[01:37] <tekteen> DANCAD3D: Is there a reason you need this?
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> DANCAD3D: if it's a console program, there is zero point in launching it from a filemanager anyway
[01:37] <bearcat>  nosrednaekim: reading
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> because it probably takes arguments, which you can't pass to it when double-clicking from a file manager
[01:38] <DANCAD3D> Is there a way to make a short-cut on the desk-top, I thought the terminal would come up automaticly, so I need to make some other kind of script file and click on it in "File Browser" like a batch file?
[01:39] <Agent_bob> DANCAD3D you right click and set it to open in a terminal  ?
[01:39] <tekteen> DANCAD3D: making a shortcut is easy (for on the desktop)
[01:40] <Agent_bob> DANCAD3D right click drag+drop on the desktop  choose make launcher  or is it  make shortcut
[01:40] <maverick_> i have a problem, am unable to play mp3 files eith any music player but Amarok...any ideas?!
[01:40] <tekteen> Right Click on desktop...
[01:40] <yalhua> #kubuntu-es
[01:40] <tekteen> select create new
[01:40] <tekteen> shortcut
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: which ones are you trying to use?
[01:40] <tekteen> then as the program select the script
[01:41] <Agent_bob> /join #kubuntu-es    si yalhua
[01:41] <maverick_> Liten, juk, banshee, exaile
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: ah... those use gstreamer
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> except juk..
[01:41] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: the play flac files, all of 'm none of which plays mp3
[01:41] <DANCAD3D> Terminal does not seem to be in the right click menu, what would the "coustom command" option text be?
[01:41] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: so what should i do?!
[01:41] <Agent_bob> !vlc
[01:42] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> !gstreamer
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: go ask in #ubuntu about what to do with exaile/banshee, some gstreamer plugin
[01:42] <Agent_bob> interesting.    vlc is not in the list
[01:42] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: to tell you the truth i want LISTEN
[01:42] <maverick_> LISTEN is the best
[01:43] <vit__> hola
[01:43] <tekteen> !es
[01:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:44] <vit__> hola
[01:44] <tekteen> hola
[01:44] <vit__> como te llamas
[01:44] <tekteen> no puedo di mi nombre
[01:45] <tekteen> no hablo espanol
[01:45] <DaSkreech> !es
[01:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> tekteen: lol
[01:45] <Agent_bob> !en | even maybe
[01:45] <ubotu> even maybe: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:46] <vit__> finlandia
[01:46] <BluesKaj> !fi | vit__
[01:46] <ubotu> vit__: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[01:46] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: lol?
[01:46] <tekteen> por que?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> what?
[01:47] <tekteen> why did u say lol?
[01:47] <tekteen> nm
[01:47] <SR_Latch> away........
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> oh... ahah cause you said you couldn't say your name, cause you didn't speak spanish... but you said it in spanish :D
[01:47] <tekteen> ok
[01:48] <tekteen> I thought no one understood it
[01:48] <Agent_bob> some did
[01:48] <tekteen> anyone know how to make the spanish accents though
[01:48] <tekteen> as you can see I have to do without them :-)
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> using konversation... insert->specialcharacter
[01:49] <Agent_bob> client/chat set  specific
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> è
[01:49] <tekteen> I would like an easy way
[01:49] <BluesKaj> gotta use a spanish KB setup in system settings
[01:49] <tekteen> like ctrl+alt+a = a with accent
[01:50] <tekteen> ok
[01:50] <tekteen> system settings
[01:50] <tekteen> then what?
[01:51] <BluesKaj> yeah, kmenu/system settings/regional&language
[01:51] <mcrandello> !i8n
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i8n - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <mcrandello> drats
[01:51] <tekteen> !info i8n
[01:51] <ubotu> Package i8n does not exist in gutsy
[01:51] <mjp> i18n = internacionalizacion
[01:51] <Agent_bob> !locale
[01:51] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[01:52] <mjp> i18n = internacionalisation
[01:52] <mcrandello> yeah that
[01:52] <tekteen> I still use an american keyboard
[01:52] <tekteen> i18n?
[01:52] <tekteen> I will look that up. thanks
[01:52] <tekteen> :-)
[01:52] <mjp> count yourself
[01:54] <tekteen> !info kde-i18n-es
[01:54] <ubotu> kde-i18n-es: Spanish (es) internationalized (i18n) files for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8~pre20071001-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 30527 kB, installed size 56088 kB
[01:54] <mcrandello> you may need to get kde-i18n-es
[01:54] <tekteen> ok
[01:54] <tekteen> lol
[01:54] <mcrandello> also koffice-i18n-es etc
[01:54] <Agent_bob> what would be a good use for the [right logo] key ?
[01:54] <tekteen> thanks
[01:54] <mcrandello> Agent_bob: boss screen
[01:54] <tekteen> but how would I then use it?
[01:55] <Agent_bob> mcrandello i don't follow you ?
[01:56] <tekteen> how do I then use the package?
[01:57] <mcrandello> Agent_bob: I would set it up to immediately switch to a different desktop with a spreadsheet open, hiding games/porn etc
[01:57] <mcrandello> tekteen: once you install it it should also bring in the language pack for spanish and another package or two related
[01:58]  * DaSkreech pops up at tekteen's alt+ctrl+A
[01:58] <tekteen> how do I create the accented charactors
[01:58] <Agent_bob> heh.  ok.    well i already use [left logo] & [menu]  for switching up and down the tty's    so that's a bit redundant,  not that it's a bad idea.
[01:58] <mcrandello> then in the system settings you can change the language and it will set up an internationalized keyboard
[01:59] <mcrandello> some older dos games had a "boss screen" key which would put a pie chart or something dull on the screen :)
[02:00] <tekteen> mcrandello: all I see is switching between spanish and english not "international"
[02:01] <Agent_bob> yeah i didn't at first catch the concept of "a screen just for your 'boss' to look at"   it soaked in when you explained "switching desktops"     but only those doing what they should not, have any use for a 'boss screen'
[02:01] <mcrandello> Agent_bob: that doesn't make it any less functional ;^)
[02:02] <mcrandello> tekteen: you can change the keyboard layout in that group
[02:02] <Agent_bob> could make it an instant off button.   that would be functional too
[02:02] <tekteen> mcrandello: I have a quick question
[02:03] <mcrandello> sure
[02:03] <tekteen> mcrandello: can I change my keyboard so...
[02:03] <tekteen> ctr+atl+a=hex code for symbol
[02:03] <alesan> is there a small applet that shows cpus uitilization, memory, etc?
[02:03] <tekteen> alesan: top
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> alesan:check into the ksysgaurd panel applet
[02:04] <tekteen> oh ... applet ... nm
[02:04] <alesan> tekteen: htop is much better
[02:04] <Agent_bob> ksysguard is not exactly small.  but it is affective
[02:04] <tekteen> alesan: ok
[02:04] <mcrandello> tekteen: probably, let me look up something
[02:05] <Agent_bob> lmsensors ?
[02:05] <Agent_bob> superkarumba
[02:05] <crusty> hello
[02:05] <tekteen> hell crusty
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> hey crusty
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> !language | tekteen
[02:05] <ubotu> tekteen: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:05] <tekteen> hello*
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> XD
[02:05] <tekteen> :-)
[02:06] <mcrandello> tekteen: http://www.linux.com/articles/113715 has a section in there on how to do it
[02:06] <tekteen> sorry
[02:06] <DaSkreech> heavens
[02:07] <mcrandello> tekteen: it's a little bit of work and editing textfiles in the dark corners of your system but should be doable
[02:07] <tekteen> ok
[02:07] <tekteen> I do that every day
[02:08] <mcrandello> the example there is using a single "deadkey" to put the accent in place but I think with a little work you can use multiple key combos
[02:08] <crusty> hey i'm want to change my resolution? HOw can a get this work?
[02:08] <DANCAD3D> I have right clicked and set the option "open with "gnome-terminal" with the exicute box un-checked and nothing happens when I try to run my freepascal terminal program that way, and when exicute file as program box is checked the open with "gnome-terminal" mesg does not show, and left click on the program or right click then open do not do anything, so I still cannot start the program from the icon, it does run with ./name in the 
[02:08] <Agent_bob> use "showkey" to find the key code
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> altGR would probably work well for the deadkey
[02:08] <tekteen> mcrandello: like super?
[02:08] <crusty> i use vmware
[02:09] <mcrandello> tekteen: not sure what you mean by super
[02:09] <tekteen> altGR?
[02:09] <tekteen> super=windows key
[02:09] <tekteen> what is altGR though
[02:09] <mcrandello> oh, probably, there's another good use for the right windows key, accents
[02:10] <tekteen> :-)
[02:12] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[02:13] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[02:13] <DaSkreech> how are you doing?
[02:20] <Neoxeekhrobe> hey guys whenever I try to use the lsmode command(root), I get command not found error and when I do SU I get the Authentication failure error. Is my box cracked?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> !root
[02:21] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> thats worded just a little too Zen for me<_<
[02:21] <BluesKaj> Neoxeekhrobe, sudo lsmod
[02:22] <Neoxeekhrobe> did that it gives the command not found error
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> though you don't need to be root to run lsmod
[02:23] <BluesKaj> no e on lsmod
[02:24] <Neoxeekhrobe> ok lsmod works su command doesn't.
[02:26] <Neoxeekhrobe> I am unable to enter as root, see any reason why?
[02:27] <mcrandello> security precautions
[02:27] <tekteen> Neoxeekhrobe: type sudo -i
[02:27] <mcrandello> a lot of beginners use *ubuntu so it kind of makes sense
[02:27] <tekteen> Neoxeekhrobe: then YOUR password
[02:27] <tekteen> and u are root
[02:27] <mcrandello> yeah sudo -i if you NEED a root console
[02:27] <tekteen> true
[02:27] <tekteen> I rarely use it
[02:28] <Neoxeekhrobe> ok I entered sudo -i and it changed from $ to #
[02:28] <hydrogen> now you are root
[02:29] <Neoxeekhrobe> ok thanks guys.
[02:29] <tekteen> use it wisely young grasshopper
[02:29] <mcrandello> I've used -i a lot more since the nopassword thing in /etc/sudoers stopped working in gutsy
[02:29] <tekteen> I like the zen ubotu response. :-)
[02:30] <tekteen> g2g
[02:30] <tekteen>  by
[02:30] <tekteen> bye
[02:33]  * nosrednaekim still grabs his root account back every time he loads Kubuntu
[02:37] <DANCAD3D> I give up :(
[02:38] <mcrandello> DANCAD3D: icon for your program?
[02:40] <DANCAD3D> mcrandello: thank you, when I select open with "gnome-terminal" in the right click dialog when I click on the program file icon the program does not start, nor does it start when the box to exicute file as a program is checked?
[02:40] <mcrandello> maybe a bash script that runs "/usr/bin/konsole -e /home/path/to/program/programname"
[02:41] <DANCAD3D> mcrandello: where do i put that bash script?
[02:41] <mcrandello> anywhere.
[02:42] <mcrandello> put a line above that one that reads #!/bin/bash
[02:42] <mcrandello> and set the perms to execute
[02:43] <mcrandello> gnome-terminal might take -e the same as konsole, I don't know
[02:43] <deuryte> excell
[02:43] <Xcell> ya
[02:43] <DANCAD3D> marandello:I made a freepascal program that has a filename without an extension, what would the file name for the bash script be?
[02:43] <Xcell> other
[02:43] <deuryte> 4
[02:43] <mcrandello> you could name the bash script anything, same as your program
[02:44] <DANCAD3D> marandello: how do I tell the system that the file is a bash script?
[02:44] <mcrandello> the first line reads "#!/bin/bash" and it's permissions are set to executable
[02:44] <mcrandello> at that point it's a program, same as a binary as far as linux is concerned
[02:45] <mcrandello> firefox works like that, you run "firefox" at the console and it's a script that loads "firefox-bin"
[02:45] <DANCAD3D> Thanks I will try that,
[02:46] <mcrandello> DANCAD3D: some more reading on bash scripts: http://www.panix.com/~elflord/unix/bash-tute.html
[02:46] <mcrandello> they're invaluable
[02:48] <DANCAD3D> is konsole the name of gnome-terminal?
[02:49] <mcrandello> konsole is what kde provides instead of gnome-terminal
[02:52] <Agent_bob> mcrandello in gnome they now call it "console"   heh what a misnomer.
[02:53] <flaccid> ouch
[02:57] <mcrandello> Agent_bob: I knew there was a reason to switch
[02:58] <DaSkreech> !bash
[02:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:59] <DaSkreech> !search script
[02:59] <ubotu> Found: dash, rtf, sysinfo-#ubuntuforums, xincludes, nonxgl, meetings, gpg, boot, cron, easyubuntu
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[02:59] <DaSkreech> !dash
[02:59] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash »
[03:00] <DaSkreech> !dash is /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash »
[03:01] <DANCAD3D> marandello: I made a text file named RUNME in the program folder with this on the first line #!/bin/bash and this on the second line /usr/bin/konsole -e /home/dan/000DANJUNK/danp001 as danp001 is the freepascal program name, I then set the exicute text file as program true, then when I click a dialog asks me if I want to run or run in terminal, both options do nothing?
[03:02] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech dash is not compatable with bash ?    is bash the gold standard ?     i thought that it was bash extensions that broke posix   not dash.
[03:03] <flaccid> sh is the base shell in most unix
[03:03] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: it's the defacto standard
[03:03] <DaSkreech> flaccid: not quite true :) but it should be
[03:03] <flaccid> well it is actually
[03:03] <flaccid> well base shell probably the wrong word
[03:03] <DaSkreech> it's the default shell
[03:03] <Agent_bob> yeah it's just linked to different things flaccid
[03:03] <flaccid> sh will be supported on most modern nixes, where is bash can be quite optional
[03:03] <DaSkreech> which then points to some other posix shell
[03:04] <flaccid> some nix like to use dif base shell now
[03:04] <DaSkreech> Most people don't know the difference between posix and bash though
[03:04]  * Agent_bob prefers dash
[03:04] <flaccid> posix is not a shell but
[03:04] <DaSkreech> so while dash may flfil posix it will still break many scripts
[03:05] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech heh that's like saying a non-dos system breaks batch files
[03:05] <mcrandello> "sudo apt-get reconfigure dash" then answer no to bring bash back
[03:05] <mcrandello> although dash is supposedly a lot faster.
[03:05] <Agent_bob> the script was broken and using dash just showed the breakage
[03:06] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: yeah that's what I meant :)
[03:07] <Agent_bob> the script was broken because it specified /bin/sh  which should always be fully posix compliant   and it also contained bash specific code that is not posix compliant.  thus the script was broken not the shell
[03:07] <deuryte> w2ktu ??
[03:07] <ubuntu__> hjik
[03:07] <ubuntu__> ?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: Yup yup
[03:08] <DaSkreech> !hi|ubuntu__
[03:08] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:08] <mjp> hi there!
[03:08] <ubuntu__> hi
[03:10] <ubuntu__> what's going on?
[03:15] <DaSkreech> Awholelottawork for KDE4 :)
[03:22] <ponyofdeath> hi, whats is a good way to generate a kde menu entries / folders from a script?
[03:23] <DaSkreech> ponyofdeath: eh?
[03:23] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: i want to generate a bunch of k menu items from a script wondering if there is an easy way for that
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Why would you script that?
[03:24] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: because i need that do u know of a way or not?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> Well the menu is database driven as far as I know so you would probably have to query it
[03:26] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: well i know that there is a .kde/share/applnk directory as well that u can make desktop file in
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:26] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: but there should be an easy way to make entries via script
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Well it's on freedesktop.org if you want to see how it's done
[03:27] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: cool thanks
[03:27] <DaSkreech> I'm still uncertain as to how many times you'll be manually changing the menu so ... don't know why you would want it scripted but I guess yuo have some complex plan
[03:28] <mcrandello> institutional rollouts perhaps?
[03:29] <DaSkreech> You can use kiosk for that
[03:29] <DaSkreech> And it's much nicer
[03:30] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: well basically i have a script that parses our dns and gets all the machine names and i want it to create menu items for each machine so i can ssh to it or cssh to the cluster of machines
[03:30] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: how can i use kiosk for that?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Where are you putting them on the Kmenu?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Kmenu -> Places -> servernames ?
[03:31] <vzduch> question: any problems w/ the current Flash plugin (9.0.115.0) and Konqueror in *buntu?
[03:32] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: yeah Kmenu -> domainname -> and that a sub folder for each group of machines > machines them selfs etc..
[03:32] <DaSkreech> Hmm seems cool
[03:34] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: yeah easy way to have a listing of all machines from our dns and then easily access them
[03:34] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: and can be updated via the script once daily
[03:34] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: with other window managers its easy but kde is a bit tougher
[03:35] <ponyofdeath> DaSkreech: seems i have to create foler and subfolders with .desktop files for each
[03:41] <adamonline45> I'm using Gutsy and Compiz-Fusion.  My desktop pager/preview (on the taskbar) only shows one LONG desktop, where I have three.  I think it's a conflict of settings between Compiz and KDE; has anyone experienced this or maybe have any ideas to fix it?  Thanks 8)
[03:41] <blendtux> hi i have a strange question
[03:42] <ninjagambit> !bluefish
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluefish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <adamonline45> which is?
[03:44] <ninjagambit> no i was just seeing if they had info on that myself
[03:44] <vzduch> question: any problems w/ the current Flash plugin (9.0.115.0) and Konqueror in *buntu?
[03:44] <ninjagambit> sorry
[03:44] <vzduch> only reference outside Fedora (my OS) to this problem I can find is a post on an Italian Slackware forum
[03:46] <blendtux> clear
[03:46] <blendtux> clear
[03:46] <blendtux> clear
[03:48] <blendtux> somebody good with programming in the shell
[03:48] <DANCAD3D> marandello: I do not see a program /usr/bin/konsole but /usr/bin/gnome-terminal seems to bring up the terminal, but it ignores the program name an path after it, any ideas of how to get the string to move to the terminal prompt after the terminal opens?
[03:52] <Neoxeekhrobe> guys I need to compile Glibc and it is said that I have to compile it in a separate folder than the one in which I unpacked it. I created the folder glibcBuild, what should I do next?
[03:52] <adamonline45> Neoxeekhrobe: $sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:59] <alen> elo guys
[03:59] <adamonline45> hi
[04:08] <alen> are you also users of ubuntu?
[04:08] <adamonline45> We all are, we just use KDE instead of gnome...
[04:09] <alen> ah ok, i have just also switched to kde
[04:10] <alen> i prefer to use this one than gnome
[04:12] <pfein> anyone know an X11 util to invert the screen?
[04:16] <adamonline45> Kaffeine says: "The source can't be read.  Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disk in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)"  Does anyone know what this could be?  I _do_ have a disk in the drive, of course 8)  And I can see the FBI warning...
[04:17] <alen> @pfien try this link, read the #7 post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/invert-desktop-colors-572393/
[04:18] <ninjagambit> ok i got the reallysick screensaver package but i don't realy understand the instructions
[04:21] <n> hey
[04:23] <ninjagambit> do i put this in the Konsole Run /usr/bin/rss-glx_install
[04:23] <ninjagambit> to get the reallysick screensavers to work
[04:35] <ninjagambit> why am i seeing when people join or leave server
[04:43] <DaSkreech> ninjagambit: depends on your client
[04:45] <hydrogen> Oo
[04:45]  * hydrogen just heard an advertisement on the radio for red hat
[04:45]  * hydrogen is impressed
[04:48] <Xcell> What exact lib is needed for amarok visualizations?
[04:50] <hydrogen> libvisual
[04:50] <hydrogen> libvisual-0.4.0
[04:50] <Xcell> Sure?
[04:50] <ninjagambit> where  do you   find that
[04:50] <Xcell> adept
[04:50] <Xcell> Is that the exact one?
[04:51] <ninjagambit> in graphix, multimedia ?
[04:53] <devin_> Need some help here. I tried reinstalling Konqueror because it kept using 99% cpu and now im getting ( dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system) any idea how to fix this?
[04:54] <ninjagambit> i dont see libvisual anywhere in adept
[04:56] <DaSkreech> ninjagambit: press Alt+space and type adept then press enter
[05:02] <Neoxeekhrobe> any package that allow me to divide my desktop area to fit different windows with custom sizes?
[05:04] <ninjagambit> thanks
[05:05] <devin_> Need some help here. I tried reinstalling Konqueror because it kept using 99% cpu and now im getting ( dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system) any idea how to fix this?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> devin_: try reinstalling kdebase
[05:07] <devin_> DaSkreech when i try to install anything it says : : dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:07] <devin_> tired doing it as root but still nothing
[05:23] <pastor> hola
[05:23] <pastor> hay alguien aqui?
[05:28] <hydrogen> !fixadept | devin_
[05:28] <ubotu> devin_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:11] <amit> kubuntu says that some packages cannot be verified...where do I download the gpg keys manually?
[06:11] <amit> i have the default kubuntu repos enabled
[06:14] <sub[t]rnl> There isn't a standard location for keys yet.  Check the repo's web page.
[06:15] <amit> sub[t]rnl: is it possible to download non-free stuff with the default repos?
[06:15] <amit> the default repos being -- deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe main
[06:15] <amit> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security universe main
[06:16] <amit> and deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe main
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> no
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> you'll need to add the non free repo's then update apt
[06:16] <amit> can you tell me some non-free repos? or some documentation i can read related to this stuff?
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> !repos
[06:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:17] <sub[t]rnl> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[06:18] <amit> sub[t]rnl: okay..i will take a look
[06:20] <amit> well..i checked out the site of the original repos..i located the keys..how do I add them to apt?
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> use apt-key
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> example
[06:21] <sub[t]rnl> wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:21] <sub[t]rnl> !apt-key
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <ninjagambit> anyone use firestarter
[06:24] <sub[t]rnl> aye
[06:24] <ninjagambit> you like it
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> yeah it saves me from throwing around iptables commands at the cli
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> its just a gui interface to the firewall already installed in *buntu
[06:27] <kraut> moin
[06:27] <ninjagambit> any tips on seting it up
[06:27] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, pretty simple really.  Just have the wizard run on the interface
[06:28] <hydrogen> there isn't a firewall installed by default on *buntu..
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> iptables is
[06:28] <hydrogen> no
[06:28] <hydrogen> its not
[06:29] <hydrogen> it can be installed, but it isn't
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> ah, sorry ninjagambit.
[06:29] <hydrogen> I don't think
[06:29] <hydrogen> maybe it is
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> i always assumed it was
[06:29] <hydrogen> if it is its not configured to do anything by default
[06:29] <hydrogen> its just there
[06:29] <hydrogen> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[06:30] <hydrogen> (i've not played with it at all on this box)
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> well, it locks down all ports by default
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> which is nice
[06:30] <hydrogen> no
[06:30] <hydrogen> it doesn't
[06:30] <hydrogen> as that policy shows
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> run nmap on default kubuntu
[06:31] <hydrogen> (viewable with iptables -L)
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> its pretty secure
[06:31] <hydrogen> thats because nothing is listening at the ports
[06:31] <hydrogen> not because they are explicitly blocked
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> well, the firewall is there by default
[06:32] <hydrogen> yes
[06:32] <hydrogen> I guess it is
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> been a while since i've seen a fresh install
[06:33] <hydrogen> its easily changed
[06:39] <ninjagambit> i cant get in ubuntu channel
[06:40] <ninjagambit> i followed the instructions from the fowarded channel
[06:40] <ninjagambit> but now i cant get the ops
[06:40] <ninjagambit> to do test
[06:50] <hydrogen> iptables -P INPUT DROP
[06:53] <ardchoille> Is it possible to have konqueror use one style (say plastic) and have konsole use a diff style (say CDW) ?
[06:54] <ninjagambit> i think you right click on the window
[06:55] <kraut> wich size must the budy icon for xmpp be?
[06:55] <ninjagambit> should have an option
[06:56] <ardchoille> ninjagambit: Has many options, but none for style
[06:57] <sigma> hi guys im switch over to konqueror 100% for web browsing but i need your help, can anyone assist me?
[07:02] <sigma> i am switching over to konq from firefox as my default web browser but konq is lacking a certain feature that i really need - the exception list to the "disable all images" rule, is there a workaround to this?
[07:05] <ardchoille> sigma: So far I have only seen a way to block images from certain sites
[07:06] <sigma> ardchoille: ya i saw that on that add blocker thing - i need it to do the reverse of that :(
[07:07] <sigma> otherwise its back to firefox - and i hate firefox!
[07:07] <ardchoille> sigma: Can you live without blocking some images? I too switched from firefox and found that I could live without blocking sime images
[07:08] <sigma> i personally dont mind the images, its my gprs data bill that does!
[07:08] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[07:09] <sub[t]rnl> i recently switched from firefox as well ardchoille.  the konq preload sold it for me.
[07:10] <Voyage_> what is the command to turn off all firewall rules ?
[07:11] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[07:11] <sub[t]rnl> sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop?
[07:11] <sub[t]rnl> guess thats not there by default though
[07:13] <ardchoille> Voyage_: Did you use firestarter to set up the firewall?
[07:17] <sstchur> I'm looking for this: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/EmeraldThemeManager?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=emerald.png
[07:17] <sstchur> what command do I run to get this?
[07:17] <Voyage_> ardchoille - how can i see what firewall rules are in place?
[07:17] <ardchoille> Voyage_: sudo iptables --list
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> sstchur: emerald-theme-manager
[07:18] <sstchur> thanks!
[07:18] <Voyage_> ardchoille thanks
[07:18] <ardchoille> yw
[07:20] <sstchur> sub[t]rnl: why would there be no themes listed for me?
[07:20] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[07:20] <sstchur> ok
[07:20] <sstchur> thanks
[07:29] <sigma> my internet banking site is not working in konqueror, works fine in firefox, any idea why?
[07:29] <flaccid> because the developer cannot do web standards
[07:29] <sigma> flaccid: what do u mean?
[07:30] <flaccid> they can't code..
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[07:32] <sigma> ok il drop them a email, its one of the big 4 banks in SA, kinda weird
[07:32] <flaccid> not really
[07:32] <ardchoille> flaccid: You are so right
[07:32] <flaccid> most banks don't have valid websites
[07:32] <ardchoille> sigma: Have you tried the user agent switcher?>
[07:32] <flaccid> yeah, just because they are a bank, doesn't mean that they can code
[07:32] <flaccid> eek, if the site does UA sniffing its even worse..
[07:32] <sub[t]rnl> try to set a different identification in tools
[07:33] <sigma> archoille: i disabled it and when i re-enabled it, it was greyed out, any idea why?
[07:34] <ardchoille> sigma: You have to go to a new web page for it to work.
[07:34] <ardchoille> sigma: restart konq, go to your banking site and try again
[07:34] <flaccid> the question remains on the behaviour of why the site 'does not work'
[07:34] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[07:34] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:35] <ardchoille> flaccid: It doesn't work because the designer can't code, you were right to begin with
[07:35] <sigma> ok its working now, should i identify as firefox or ie?
[07:35] <flaccid> but what is the behaviour to verify this theory?
[07:35] <ardchoille> sigma: Whichever works
[07:35] <unix_infidel> anyone know how to recover from a ati graphics driver upgrade?
[07:35] <ardchoille> flaccid: Works in ff, not in konq?
[07:35] <flaccid> yeah so the bank is sniffing the UA string in the http request headers to determine if you should be able to load the site or not <-- totally bad practice
[07:36] <flaccid> but what is the actual behaviour
[07:36] <unix_infidel> i mean other than just using the old GPU driver?
[07:36] <flaccid> is it saying 'invalid browser' or is the site unuseable ?
[07:37] <sigma> oh my, that actually worked, but how secure is this guys?
[07:38] <sigma> let me try login
[07:38] <flaccid> it doesn't relate to security really
[07:38] <flaccid> your confidentiality should still be protected by TLS
[07:38] <flaccid> if its not, im not sure what kind of bank you are with..
[07:39] <ardchoille> sigma: I think all it does it tells the site that you're using something other than konqueror
[07:39] <sigma> well that lock is in the titlebar
[07:39] <flaccid> so if it works, it works basically
[07:39] <ardchoille> If that's true, then it shows that the site designers didn't do proper testing either
[07:39] <flaccid> testing is irrelevant if you can't do web standards
[07:39] <ardchoille> true
[07:40] <sigma> so basically just because my browser is konq and not internet explorer its not letting me in?
[07:40] <flaccid> but the mentality is that 'you code for IE because thats what everyone uses'. where in reality you can code for anything with web standards. but ignorance reigns..
[07:40] <ardchoille> sigma: Because it's identifying itself as something other than what the site knows to work
[07:40] <flaccid> sigma: correct.
[07:40] <ardchoille> sigma: Which is stupid, really
[07:40] <sub[t]rnl> agreed
[07:40] <flaccid> we don't know exactly what UA strings are accepted by that site..
[07:41] <sigma> yeah thats just retarded, so according to them only a set number of web browsers work, i mean who would ever think about hacking into your session if you are on linux
[07:41] <flaccid> you only sniff UA strings for very , very very specific reasons...
[07:42] <flaccid> sigma: nothing to do with session which is server side. this is to do with the fact that most people still cannot do valid HTML and CSS..
[07:42] <knx_> which flash package should i use with gusty?
[07:42] <ardchoille> sigma: Well, this just proves that the site designers were wrong to assume only certain browsers actually work, I mean if you can falsify the UA string and get it to work
[07:42] <flaccid> and standard javascript is a dif story altogether..
[07:42] <ardchoille> !flash | knx_
[07:42] <ubotu> knx_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:42] <sigma> lol
[07:42] <knx_> gusty here
[07:42] <flaccid> you can spoof a UA string just like the plugin does or whatever. its a totally arbitary and non-standard way to satisfy the lack of skill the developers have..
[07:43] <knx_> flash was working, tried flash non free, now...
[07:43] <flaccid> brb
[07:43] <sigma> perhaps it just gives them a false sense of hope inside!
[07:44] <knx_> so which flash package was originally installed?
[07:44] <mstodd> I just rebooted my machine, and all my fonts are tiny, it's veeerrrrryyyy annoying, and I don't know why.  Even If I choose larger fonts through system settings, it doesn't fix all the problems . . .
[07:46] <sigma> ardchoille: r u still there - i have a konq question that no one could answer
[07:47] <ardchoille> sigma: I'm here
[07:48] <knx_> mstodd: when did u install the os?
[07:48] <apparle> the resolution of the logon screen changes to a resolution of a wide screen after fglrx install????
[07:49] <sigma> ardchoille: ok here goes, in firefox if you go to preferences and then content theres a "load images automatically" box but theres also an exception list next to it, is the same functionality somehow available in konq as well?
[07:50] <sigma> i need to have some pages load with images but have all other pages with no images
[07:51] <ardchoille> sigma: afaik, it's load all images or lod no images, there isn't any other choice.
[07:51] <ardchoille> sigma: Is this on a mobile/cellular device?
[07:51] <sub[t]rnl> apparle: I believe the logon uses the first resolution listed in your xorg.conf.  You might want to edit it and put the desired resolution first
[07:51] <sigma> yup i use my cellphone as a gprs modem so im trying to cut down on the bill
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> apparle: you can also set the resolutions with aticonfig, ex. sudo aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024,1024x768
[07:52] <linuxnoob> i just install kubuntu desktop on laptop and when i try and install java and mp3 support i get broken package problems any suggestions on correcting problem
[07:52] <sigma> ardchoille: im trying the adblocker plugin, its sort of working but in the opposite way
[07:52] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: You uninstalled an empty meta-package, all the apps kubuntu-desktop pulled in are still installed.
[07:53] <flaccid> sigma: opera can do that iirc
[07:53] <apparle> linuxnoob: I tried it. I get some error " creen0 not found"
[07:53] <apparle> linuxnoob: Screen I tried it. I get some error " Screen0 not found"
[07:53] <posingaspopular> is there anyway to see network traffic in and out
[07:53] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: Re-install kubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: how can i find which one
[07:54] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: ok
[07:54] <flaccid> !bwm-ng
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bwm-ng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <flaccid> !info bwm-ng
[07:54] <ubotu> bwm-ng: small and simple console-based bandwidth monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-2 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 148 kB
[07:54] <flaccid> otherwise ethereal for packet sniffing
[07:54] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: kubuntu-desktop is an empty meta-package, it only exists to pull in all the apps needed for the kubuntu desktop environment
[07:54] <sigma> ardchoille: is there any plugin repository online for konq? if not is opera in the repo's?
[07:54] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I opened xorg.conf. Any line related to resolutions not found
[07:55] <ardchoille> sigma: I haven't found a plugin repo for konq, konq does use mozilla plugins however. And, yes, opera is in the partner repo iirc.
[07:55] <posingaspopular> thanks
[07:55] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: package not avail
[07:56] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: kubuntu-desktop?
[07:56] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: yep says referred to by other
[07:57] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: What do i do??
[07:57] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: Can you pastebin your sources.list for me please?
[07:57] <sigma> ardchoille: so if i download a plugin from http://addons.mozilla.org how do i install it?
[07:57] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[07:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:57] <ardchoille> sigma: No idea
[07:57] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: ok one sec
[07:58] <ardchoille> sigma: Which plugin? Are you sure it isn't already in the repos?
[07:58] <sigma> something for image filtering
[07:58] <Xcell> lol trying to cheat konq via fox plugin...hope it works
[07:59] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47190/
[07:59] <ardchoille> sigma: There aren't any mozilla plugins for image filtering.
[07:59] <Xcell> Good idea though.
[08:00] <Xcell> Google it.Maybe youll find something.
[08:00] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: I don't see anything wrong with your sources.list except that backports is a "use at your own risk" repo
[08:01] <sigma> ardchoille: dam thought i might strike it lucky!
[08:02] <ardchoille> sigma: There are only 6 mozilla plugins available for Linux
[08:02] <surgy> hello
[08:02] <surgy> what is a good 3d bench mark program for kubuntu? im looking for something along the lines of "3DMARK"
[08:02] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: any other ideas
[08:02] <Xcell> sigma: Check this out.http://adblock.mozdev.org/
[08:03] <ardchoille> Xcell: adblock is an extension, not a plugin and to my knowledge, konq cannot use firefox extensions
[08:03] <sigma> xcell: i saw that right now, isnt that the exact same adblock that is used in konqueror
[08:03] <Xcell> I tried.
[08:03] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <Xcell> Looks like it sigma.
[08:04] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: ok will try
[08:04] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: Other than that, I don't know what to tell you
[08:04] <ardchoille> sigma: konq uses a "form" of that, yes
[08:05] <Xcell> Konq has a mile long list..would take 3 weeks to get conf.
[08:05] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: no go
[08:05] <apparle> how do I play MIDI files
[08:05] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: What exactly was the error?
[08:06] <ardchoille> !midi
[08:06] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:06] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: will pastebin
[08:06] <Xcell> I actually like konq/ just wish it had (no script) + image capa.
[08:06] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: Thank you :)
[08:06] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47191/
[08:08] <sigma> well i think i found a simple solution for now
[08:08] <Xcell> what
[08:08] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop | grep -i install
[08:09] <linuxnoob>   Installed: (none)
[08:09] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: apt-cache search kubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <ninjagambit> anyone a web developer
[08:10] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: i have just use source omatic to make new soures list will update etc see what happens
[08:10] <sigma> i just disable all images, then when i need to see them i go to tools - html settings - autoload images
[08:10] <ardchoille> linuxnoob: Ah ok
[08:10] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: its downloading new package info files
[08:10] <sigma> it remembers to load images just for that one site
[08:11] <Xcell> cool..thats usin the ol noggin
[08:11] <sigma> Xcell: but its only for one session, if i close konq it forgets, anyway to make it permanentely remember?
[08:11] <Xcell> cant make a switch @ the top?
[08:12] <Xcell> prolly not
[08:13] <sigma> ya some kind of shortcut button would be helpful
[08:13] <Xcell> prolly have to write a script
[08:13] <Xcell> oi
[08:14] <Xcell> I wish they would do konq like both opera and ff..that would rule.
[08:14] <ardchoille> Should be able to get a dcop call to autoload images
[08:15] <Xcell> There ya go.
[08:15] <surgy> anyone?
[08:16] <Xcell> Go ahead surg.
[08:16] <ardchoille> Well, seems you need to know the PID of konq before that dcop call would work. That was stupid.
[08:17] <sigma> ardchoille: how do i get dcop to call that?
[08:17] <sigma> hehe, firefox looks like crap in kde
[08:17] <ardchoille> sigma: It won't work unless you know the PID of konq before hand.. and the PID changes when you restart konq
[08:17] <Xcell> lol
[08:18] <ardchoille> sigma: There are tons of skins for firefox
[08:18] <sigma> ok well thats not a option then!, ya but they all have issues
[08:18] <sigma> and firefox is rather slow compared to konq as i have noticed
[08:19] <Xcell> Exactly..thats why i said i liked konq better.
[08:19] <ardchoille> I use konq, but I don't have images enabled at all.
[08:20] <sigma> well as long as my internet banking works and i can use f1 to turn on images where i need them im happy:), just wish it would remember where i turned images on, weird cos its on a local server on my pc, it should at least remember to enable images for that
[08:20] <sigma> can i leave a feature suggestion somewhere to implement that feature in a later version?
[08:22] <posingaspopular> hey all where do i go to get help mounting a partition in gutsy
[08:22] <posingaspopular> ubotu's respnse was kind of hard for me to get
[08:23] <ardchoille> !mount
[08:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:24] <sigma> posing: its pretty simple in system settings -- disks and file systems
[08:26] <posingaspopular> when i click enable I get 'return code for mount was 32' "mount failure"
[08:26] <posingaspopular> i have filetype system set as auto
[08:26] <posingaspopular> i dont see why that would be a problem
[08:26] <sigma> ok not too clued up on error messages
[08:27] <posingaspopular> sigma: it just says to specify file type
[08:27] <sigma> try set it to the actual filesystem type
[08:27] <sigma> what filesystem is it
[08:27] <posingaspopular> um it's just a linux partition, i want to say ext3 but that's not an option
[08:28] <Xcell> isnt ext3 a swap partition already?
[08:28] <sigma> ext3 is a option, i mounted one yesterday
[08:28] <Xcell> ah
[08:29] <Xcell> k
[08:29] <sigma> xcell: nope ext3 is a regular filesystem
[08:29] <posingaspopular> ah i foudn it
[08:29] <Xcell> I had it backwards.
[08:29] <sigma> xcell: its a slight upgrade of ext2, protects your data more
[08:29] <Xcell> ok
[08:31] <posingaspopular> okay but im still getting the same error
[08:31] <posingaspopular> mount point is /mnt/Linux btw
[08:31] <posingaspopular> okay no sorry nvm, different partition
[08:31] <posingaspopular> this one has a mount point as <mnt point>
[08:32] <posingaspopular> duh, create the mount point
[08:33] <sigma> yup
[08:34] <posingaspopular> done thanks all
 what is a good 3d bench mark program for kubuntu? im looking for something along the lines of "3DMARK"
[08:35] <sigma> glxgears
[08:35] <surgy> sigma: that is not a benchmark
[08:36] <sigma> well im downloading opera, gonna see how that browser fares
[08:36] <sigma> surgy: don't think theres anything else
[08:37] <pastulio> can i make my kubuntu box an ftp server?
[08:37] <surgy> sigma: opera rawks, but firefox is faster by far, i beleave firefox is the second fastest browser available for us, second only to konq
[08:38] <surgy> !ftp | pastulio
[08:38] <ubotu> pastulio: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[08:38] <Xcell> brb
[08:38] <pastulio> !FTPd
[08:38] <sigma> surgy: well this could be a waste of a download
[08:38] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[08:38] <sigma> surgy: what dependencies does opera need?
[08:38] <surgy> sigma: but opera is fully loaded, with built in everything
[08:39] <surgy> sigma: not sure
[08:39] <surgy> !opera | sigma
[08:39] <ubotu> sigma: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:39] <sigma> what do you mean with everything built in?
[08:40] <surgy> it has everything, imagine something you whould want a browser to do...... opera most likely has it
[08:41] <sigma> ah i see what you mean
[08:42] <sigma> i wonder why its so small though
[08:42] <surgy> sigma: it has a plugin system, and downloads and installs what you want :)
[08:43] <linuxnoob> ardchoille: well i have install mp3 support but now i get a tzdata error when apt-get trying to update it see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47193/
[08:43] <surgy> sigma: it really is a nice browser, although not the fastest certainly my favorite if i was looking for options
[08:44] <sigma> surgy: does it look normal in kde, because firefox looks disgusting
[08:44] <sigma> what do you mean by not the fastest?
[08:45] <wpk> surgy: yeah, memleaks, ugly look, opera has it all!
[08:45] <surgy> sigma: both firefox and opera are both FULLY customizable, you can make them look and act in any way. my GF has her firefox set up with leopard skin and black buttons, i have mine themed to look just like my kde theme, and opera is even more customizable
[08:45] <surgy> wpk :)
[08:46] <sigma> surgy: how did u get the kde look for firefox?
[08:46] <surgy> wpk: sigma wpk has a point, but like i said its slower
[08:46] <surgy> sigma: google it
[08:48] <posingaspopular> am i the only one who thinks that gutsy looks like windows 95?
[08:48] <posingaspopular> gutsy kubuntu
[08:48] <surgy> yeah i think so :)
[08:48] <robotphood> if i recall correctly it probably did
[08:49] <robotphood> surgy, firefox is faster than opera for you?
[08:49] <sigma> surgy: im using it now, its not that slow, but it still can't disable images on certain websites like firefox can!
[08:50] <surgy> robotphood: yes, and if i recall, it is faster for most people
[08:50] <sigma> surgy: did you install that kdeff theme for firefox?
[08:50] <robotphood> like rendering speed?
[08:50] <moteyalpha> !fglrx
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <sub[t]rnl> far from windows 95 posingaspopular
[08:51] <surgy> sigma: actually, i lied, sorry, i use compiz-fission and i used the themes manager there to get my titlebar looking right everything else looks stock, except i chose small icons
[08:52] <sub[t]rnl> http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1sb3.png
[08:53] <robotphood> that's not stock kubuntu...
[08:53] <Sajes> How do you install kde 4 on 7.10? I've installed kde4base and kde4base-dev but it still says 3.5.8.
[08:53] <sub[t]rnl> gutsy looks however you want it to look
[08:54] <robotphood> of course
[08:54] <robotphood> i thought posingaspopular was talking about stock :)
[08:55] <Jay-Oh-En> how come my kubuntu is going soooo slow
[08:55] <sigma> is there anyway to stop adbloacker in konqueror showing that do not enter sign in place of blocked images?
[08:55] <sub[t]rnl> check "top" to see if there are any runaway processes taking up mem or cpu
[08:55] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[08:56] <sub[t]rnl> htop ftw
[08:56] <posingaspopular> htop
[08:56] <Jay-Oh-En> whats getty?
[08:57] <posingaspopular> no i just think the gray and light blue everything is weak. the icons are fine i guess but the main colors...
[08:57] <sub[t]rnl> getty opens a tty port
[08:57] <Jay-Oh-En> whose the user haldaemo?
[08:58] <Jay-Oh-En> and avahi
[08:58] <sigma> where are the data files for konqueror plugins stored?
[09:00] <sub[t]rnl> not sure
[09:01] <Jay-Oh-En> hey whats the best antivirus for kubuntu
[09:02]  * sub[t]rnl blinks
[09:03] <posingaspopular> clamAV iirc
[09:03] <Sajes> Woot. Got kde4 working. I searched the ubuntu site. ;)
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> linux doesn't suffer the windows spywares and viruses.  Totally different filesystem.
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> other security apps would be firestarter, snort, portsentry
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> chkrootkit
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> tripwire...
[09:03] <robotphood> configure konq > plugins
[09:04] <robotphood> doh he left
[09:04] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: almost nobody runs antivirus on linux boxes, because linux is supposed to be so secure. but clamAV and sub[t]rnl 's comments if you want the reassurance
[09:05] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Some info about Linux viruses: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[09:06] <ninjagambit> how do i install adobe flashplayer 8
[09:06] <moteyalpha> !planeshift
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <ardchoille> !flash | ninjagambit
[09:06] <ubotu> ninjagambit: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:06] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: thanks
[09:06] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks posingaspopular
[09:07] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks sub[t]rnl
[09:07] <posingaspopular> okay night, i need bed
[09:07] <sub[t]rnl> night
[09:07] <posingaspopular> np Jay-Oh-En, if you need anything else, pop back in here and ask
[09:08] <Jay-Oh-En> :]
[09:08]  * posingaspopular goes away forever
[09:08] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[09:11] <neville> Can somebody here tell me how to set a static IP address for my computer?
[09:13] <Jay-Oh-En> !find banshee
[09:13] <ubotu> Found: banshee, banshee-daap
[09:14] <Jay-Oh-En> !banshee
[09:14] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[09:14] <Jay-Oh-En> i heard banshee is nice
[09:16] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[09:18] <sub[t]rnl> morning sebastian^
[09:21] <niko_> hi guys
[09:21] <niko_> i'm in trouble with ktorrent
[09:23] <Jay-Oh-En> is there a way to save power
[09:23] <Jay-Oh-En> on my system
[09:23] <Jay-Oh-En> cause i want to host a server that willl be up all the time
[09:23] <sebastian^> Jay-Oh-En: cpu policy --> powersave ?
[09:23] <ninjagambit> this is quite agrevating
[09:23] <Jay-Oh-En> without turning my computer off
[09:24] <niko_> it doesn't saves on a fat32 partition
[09:24] <niko_> where i put my downloads!!!!
[09:26] <ninjagambit> anyone know why ktorrent is so slow
[09:26] <Jay-Oh-En> is there a powermanager for kubuntu
[09:26] <sub[t]rnl> ninjagambit: could be a number of things
[09:27] <sub[t]rnl> number of seeders is important.
[09:27] <sub[t]rnl> as well as port forwarding if your behind a router
[09:28] <ninjagambit> plenty of seeders
[09:28] <ninjagambit> no router
[09:28] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[09:28] <ninjagambit> i tried to do a speed test but cant get flash to work
[09:29] <sub[t]rnl> tweak your ktorrent a bit
[09:30] <sub[t]rnl> throttle down the upload rate
[09:30] <robotphood> increase connections?
[09:30] <sub[t]rnl> no, not necessarily
[09:30] <maxlo> hi all
[09:30] <maxlo> I am trying to contact the Ubuntu developers
[09:31] <maxlo> do you know which is the right place?
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> #ubuntu-dev?
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> eep, no
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> jucato where do the ubuntu developers hang out
[09:31] <Jucato> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:31] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu
[09:32] <Jucato> #ubuntu-devel and/or #ubuntu-motu
[09:32] <sub[t]rnl> maxlo: ^^
[09:32] <maxlo> ubuntu (since I need to get in touch with the kernel guys)
[09:32] <Jucato> ah #ubuntu-kernel actually
[09:32] <maxlo> ah, great
[09:32] <maxlo> thanks!\
[09:32] <Jucato> (iirc)
[09:32] <maxlo> at irc.freenode.net, right>/
[09:32] <maxlo> ?
[09:33] <Jucato> yep
[09:33] <Jucato> all official ubuntu channels are on freenode
[09:34] <sub[t]rnl> ninjagambit: http://www.canyouseeme.org/ <- put in your ktorrent port (default 6881) to see if its open
[09:42] <ninjagambit> says it could not see me
[09:44] <pastulio> how do i allow ssh connections to my kubuntu box?
[09:45] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:45] <pastulio> ty
[09:47] <ninjagambit> maby i will try different torrent ap
[09:47] <ninjagambit> anyone else have problems with ktorrent
[09:48] <ninjagambit> bittorrent workes fine on windows
[09:49] <sub[t]rnl> ktorrent works great here.  uTorrent runs good under wine as well
[09:50] <ninjagambit> i use satalite internet
[09:51] <ninjagambit> ill have to find out if there is another firewall somewhere
[09:52] <ninjagambit> i opend ports with firestarter
[09:52] <ninjagambit> for ktorrent
[09:53] <ninjagambit> but didnt help speed any
[09:54] <sub[t]rnl> i stumbled across a site that had recommendations for the prefrence settings (max connections/global connections/upload speak, etc..) based on your connection speed
[09:54] <ninjagambit> should be downloading about 100KB/s
[09:54] <ninjagambit> im at 34KB/s now
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> see if i can find it again
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> keep in mind some people filter share ratio's, so if yours isn't good, it's might be the culprit
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> its = it
[09:56] <Xcell> Sigma:
[09:57] <Xcell> o
[09:57] <niko_> someone can explain me why ktorrent doesn't save file on a fat 32 partition?
[09:58] <ninjagambit> its set unlimited
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> whats unlimited?
[09:58] <ninjagambit> 0
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, but what setting
[09:58] <ninjagambit> share ratio
[09:58] <ninjagambit> should i set it
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> niko_: do you have write permission to the partition?
[09:59] <ninjagambit> to something
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> no, keep it like that
[09:59] <sigma> how do i change the default placeholder image for adblocker in konqueror?
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> ninjagambit: whats your upload rate?
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> in prefrences
[10:00] <sub[t]rnl> doubt that would matter that much though, since your on satellite, and upstream is shitty anyway
[10:02] <ninjagambit> 45 right now
[10:02] <ninjagambit> yeah
[10:02] <ninjagambit> it limits upload
[10:02] <ninjagambit> and it dosnt affect my download rate
[10:02] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: theres no preference setting for it
[10:03] <sub[t]rnl> sigma: ah, was talking to ninjagambit, sorry
[10:03] <sigma> ok
[10:03] <sub[t]rnl> i gotta get some shut eye
[10:04] <sub[t]rnl> night all
[10:04] <sigma> so no one here knows how to change that image, its very irritating
[10:04] <Xcell> what image
[10:04] <ninjagambit> thanks
[10:04] <ninjagambit> gnight
[10:05] <ninjagambit> sub[t]rnl
[10:07] <sigma> xcell: if you enable adblocker and don't hide the filtered images a big ugly red do not enter sign appears in place of them, thats what i want to change
[10:07] <Xcell> lol
[10:08] <Xcell> Dont know / never tried.
[10:08] <sigma> xcell: any idea where that file is on my hard drive, it must be a simple picture file because its the same one stretched all over the place in konq
[10:08] <niko_> sub[t]rnl:
[10:08] <niko_> sorry
[10:08] <niko_> i'm back
[10:08] <niko_> i override permission
[10:08] <niko_> in the disk manager....
[10:09] <niko_> and, for irc downloads
[10:09] <niko_> works perfectly
[10:09] <niko_> but for ktorrent nope....
[10:09] <Xcell> Thinks
[10:10] <ninjagambit> man why am i geting hit so much
[10:10] <ninjagambit> my firestarter is going crazy
[10:10] <Xcell> What U using
[10:11] <ninjagambit> konversation all thats up right now
[10:11] <sigma> ok well il just hide the filtered images for now, konq uses less bandwidth than firefox
[10:11] <Xcell> big time
[10:12] <Xcell> fire fox is a gas hog.
[10:12] <Xcell> proly spam ninj..thats all i know right now
[10:13] <Xcell> copy and paste hit to browser search and see what it says
[10:15] <Xcell>  big ugly red do not enter sign appears   lol.
[10:16] <sigma> yup thats the one, who on earth designed that
[10:16] <Xcell> chkroot scared the crap outa me
[10:17] <sigma> its gota be somewhere on the hard drive, do you know where konqueror is installed?
[10:17] <Xcell> havent looked.
[10:20] <Martinn> why when i send only 1 ping count i recieve only 1 reply from 1 host and no DUPs?
[10:31] <Martinn> ?
[10:46] <esab_> oiiii galera!!!
[10:46] <esab> oiiiii
[10:46] <esab_> xupa puta
[10:46] <esab> puta xupa
[10:46] <esab_> õ esab é gay!!!!
[10:47] <esab> o esab_ tmb
[10:47] <esab> xD
[10:48] <esab_> xDD
[10:49] <Lynoure> hmm
[10:49] <esab> olaaa lynoure
[10:49] <Lynoure> !es
[10:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:49] <esab> mucha gracias xD
[10:50] <esab> chica boa xD
[10:50] <esab> tens pilla
[10:50] <esab> ?
[10:50] <Lynoure> esab: I did understand some words, and they seemed a bit unsuited here...
[10:51] <X314> Lynoure: you think he gets english?
[10:51] <esab> oh my dear!!
[10:51] <esab> i love you
[10:51] <akrus> hello everyone
[10:51] <Lynoure> X314: yes, I think he knows well what he is doing...
[10:51] <akrus> how to configure Qt4 fonts & styles under KDE3? :)
[10:52] <X314> Lynoure: well then. I rest my case :p
[10:52] <esab> hello cock
[10:52] <jpatrick> akrus: I think there's a qt4-config program, somewhere..
[10:52] <jpatrick> !language | esab
[10:52] <ubotu> esab: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:53] <akrus> somewhere? o_o*
[10:53] <KId> me
[10:54] <KId> linux sucks!!
[10:54] <jpatrick> KId: you'll need to do more than that to fool me
[10:54] <KId> is true
[10:54] <akrus> :D
[10:55] <ninjagambit> lol
[10:56] <jpatrick> Lynoure: sorry 'bout that
[10:56] <ciacon> Hi all... I have problems setting my ip-address
[10:57] <ninjagambit> well im going to be
[10:57] <Lynoure> jpatrick: it takes all kinds to make a planet, I suppose =)
[10:57] <ninjagambit> bed
[10:57] <ninjagambit> g'night everyone
[10:57] <ninjagambit> now how you going to kick the bad guys
[10:57] <ciacon> for some reason when changing my ip-settings, it tells me, that my gateway-address is invalid... I don't localy have a gw... what can/should I do?
[10:58] <poison--> morning
[10:59] <sebastian^> morning poison--
[10:59] <ciacon> poison--: g'mornin
[11:00] <jpatrick> akrus: aha! qt4-qtconfig from universe
[11:01] <akrus> jpatrick: yeah found already :)
[11:01] <jpatrick> ok :)
[11:02] <Lynoure> ciacon: usually you have a gateway, unless you only network to your own subnet
[11:03] <ciacon> Lynoure: I have this and another pc.... this one in plugged to the inet aswell... 192.168.0.100 & 192.168.0.200 are the two boxes, both connected over the hub in the adsl-modem... I am slightly lost, what my gw would be...
[11:04] <Lynoure> ciacon: "plugged to inet" in detail being?
[11:05] <Lynoure> ciacon: But just from those number I'd guess your gateway is 192.168.1.1
[11:05] <Lynoure> ciacon: that's probably the internal ip of your adsl device
[11:08] <ninjagambit> im installing ktoon it wants directory to insall in
[11:09] <ninjagambit> where should i install it
[11:09] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: ktoon is in the archives
[11:10] <ninjagambit> just part of the initial set up
[11:10] <ninjagambit> i got it from archives
[11:10] <jpatrick> maybe: /usr
[11:10] <ninjagambit> just usr
[11:11] <ninjagambit> ok
[11:11] <ninjagambit> not realy good with this stuff
[11:11] <ninjagambit> yet
[11:11] <jpatrick> (since that's where it's installed to)
[11:11] <ninjagambit> just switched from windows
[11:11] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: fear not! you'll learn with time :)
[11:12] <ninjagambit> it says choose ktoon install directiory
[11:12] <ciacon> Lynoure: I have to use "pon dsl-provider" to dail in... with "plugged to inet" i mean, that my eth0 is conected to the hub in the adsl modem....
[11:12] <ninjagambit> directory
[11:12] <ninjagambit> installation directory
[11:12] <ninjagambit> so select /usr
[11:12] <ninjagambit> ?
[11:13] <jpatrick> that should do it
[11:14] <zoli2k> Hi, I just turned my ubuntu system to kubuntu. Is there a way to integrate firefox with KDE? I don't want to have gtk based dialogs in firefox.
[11:15] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: woah, that is one weird app
[11:15] <ninjagambit> what about temp
[11:15] <ninjagambit> directory
[11:16] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: leave that, it appears to work here like that
[11:16] <ninjagambit> lol sorry what was it
[11:17] <zoli2k> Hi, It is possible to integrate konqueror with any social bookmarking system?
[11:17] <ninjagambit> was it /tmp
[11:17] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: i'd make a 'ktoons' dir in your home and point the install there, and then tmp should be /tmp
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[11:17] <ninjagambit> ok
[11:18] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: ah, it seems that it makes a hidden '.ktoon' dir in your home anyway
[11:19] <ninjagambit> ok so what do i put in field
[11:19] <jpatrick>  /home/<user>/.ktoon
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> jpatrick: its easier to use ~?.ktoon
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> or ~/.ktoon
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> if yer shift key doesnt stick
[11:20] <jpatrick> ActionParsnip: since he's new I thought I'd make it easier ;)
[11:21] <ninjagambit> ok
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> jpatrick: ok hehe, your clal man :D
[11:21] <jpatrick> clal?
[11:22] <ninjagambit> think he ment call
[11:22] <jpatrick> ah, right
[11:23] <ninjagambit> not a good first impression
[11:23] <ninjagambit> tip of the day dosnt work
[11:23] <ninjagambit> lol
[11:23] <ninjagambit> just blank
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> what is tip of the day?
[11:24] <ninjagambit> pop up window when i first started app
[11:24] <ninjagambit> supposed to give you little tips
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> yeah i disable those
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> annoying things
[11:25] <blackflag> !web development
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about web development - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <Kohlrabi> "Did you know?: You have to press the buttons on this thing called 'keyboard' to create input." and the like
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> "did you know matter exists"
[11:26] <Kohlrabi> :)
[11:27] <ninjagambit> what you looking for blackflag
[11:28] <ninjagambit> i tried that a before
[11:28] <zoli2k> is there an easy way to integrate firefox with kubuntu?
[11:28] <ninjagambit> no
[11:28] <ninjagambit> lol
[11:29] <ninjagambit> j/k
[11:29] <ninjagambit> mine works fine
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> zoli2k: how do you mean>
[11:29] <SatManUK> !mp3
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <ninjagambit> cant veiw any videos from utube
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: go to www.adobe.com and download it there
[11:30] <ninjagambit> will it work on amd64
[11:30] <ninjagambit> ?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: not sure gimme a sec
[11:30] <ninjagambit> which one do i download
[11:30] <Martinn>  how to make a proxy server in linux the easiest way
[11:30] <ScorpKing> does anyone know where i can get info to configure a UPS so the box will shutdown if the power fail?
[11:31] <ScorpKing> !UPS
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <ninjagambit> ubotu you dont know much do ya
[11:32] <ninjagambit> lol
[11:32] <ScorpKing> hehe.
[11:32] <ninjagambit> lol he quaryed me
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: http://f241vc15.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/flash-player-plugin-install-on-amd64/
[11:32] <ninjagambit> said rror: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:32] <ScorpKing> lol. he always does that
[11:33] <zoli2k> ActionParsnip: KDE dialogs in firefox.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> zoli2k: what about them? please give some details
[11:34] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: I'm sorry, after reading the source, the installation dir should be: "/usr/share/ktoon/"
[11:35] <ninjagambit> lol
[11:35] <ninjagambit> didnt some noob say that
[11:35] <ninjagambit> i saw it on some other app i installed
[11:36] <zoli2k> ActionParsnip: I just turned my ubuntu system to kubuntu, I would like to switch from GTK dialogs in firefox to KDE dialogs.
[11:36] <ninjagambit> but didnt know about the ktoon part
[11:36] <ninjagambit> actionparsnip:thanks for the link im going to try it
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: no worries man
[11:37] <ninjagambit> but im realy a noob at the whole konsole system thingy majiggy
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> zoli2k: oic
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: its the source of all power :)
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: id use the gui til you get comfy with linux
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> zoli2k: not found anything yet
[11:41] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: well, I'll patch the source in the package so that it points to the right place :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Has anyone else seen this before
[11:42] <zoli2k> ActionParsnip: I am surprised that there is no work around in MOTU to do this. I found a guide how to do this by editing some parts of the mozilla code, but I don't want to develop my own distro :D
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> zoli2k: i though it would see the default WM and use that
[11:48] <ninjagambit> actionparsnip: im not fully understanding this
[11:49] <ninjagambit> maby because i need to sleep
[11:49] <ninjagambit> but where exactly do you put tar -zxvf nspluginwrapper-install-0-1.2.tar.gz
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: yeah id sleep man, dnt start doing admin stuff half awake
[11:49] <ninjagambit> in the console
[11:49] <ninjagambit> ?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: yeah you just type / paste it
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you need to download the file
[11:49] <ninjagambit> i did
[11:50] <ninjagambit> it said bash: /tar: No such file or directory
[11:51] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: without the / in front :)
[11:51] <SR-Latch> to outer space..........
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: tar is the command
[11:52] <ninjagambit> i tried that first it said
[11:52] <ninjagambit> tar: nspluginwrapper-install-0-1.2.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or director     y
[11:52] <ninjagambit> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:52] <ninjagambit> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:52] <ninjagambit> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: have you downloaded the file?
[11:52] <ninjagambit> yeah its on my desktop
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> are you in the desktop directory in your konsole?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> cd ~/Desktop
[11:53] <ninjagambit> oh nope
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you need to be in the same folder as the file to execute the command or specify the full path to the file to be used
[11:55] <ninjagambit> ok how do  i navigate on this thing
[11:55] <ninjagambit> im sorry
[11:55] <ninjagambit> im dumb
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: use your mouse and copy it to your home directory
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: its WAY easier
[11:57] <ninjagambit> ok
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: now in console type ~/
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> and ls should show the file, yes?
[12:00] <jpatrick> !cli | ninjagambit
[12:00] <ubotu> ninjagambit: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:01] <ninjagambit> bash: /home/justin/: is a directory
[12:01] <ninjagambit> thats what it said
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> ninapina: open a fresh konsole, you should then be in your home directory
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> and if you type ls you should see the file you moved, yes?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> ninapina: sorry for confuding you, your name is similar :(
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: did you move the file to your home directory then open a new konsole?
[12:09] <ninjagambit> yep
[12:09] <ninjagambit> did that
[12:10] <ninjagambit> then typed ~/
[12:10] <ninjagambit> it says bash: /home/justin/: is a directory
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you didnt need to, you are already there
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> now press your up cursor til you find the tar command
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> and hit enter
[12:11] <ninjagambit> ok
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: has something happened?
[12:13] <ninjagambit> nope
[12:13] <ninjagambit> same error
[12:13] <ninjagambit> this is what im looking at justin@Com1:~$
[12:13] <ninjagambit> is that right
[12:13] <ninjagambit> the file i put in the home folder
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> if you type ls do you get the file (LS in lower case)
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> vistakiller: sweet name man
[12:15] <vistakiller> thanks :)
[12:15] <ninjagambit> yeah
[12:15] <ninjagambit> the file is there
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: type tar -zxvf ./ns then press tab to autocomplete the filename
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: better?
[12:20] <ninjagambit> ok i think i know where im messing up
[12:20] <ninjagambit> brb
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: cool man
[12:21] <ninjagambit> ok should i extract the file inside the home folder first
[12:21] <pastor> hola a todos
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: yes
[12:21] <ninjagambit> then put in command
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !es | pastor
[12:21] <ubotu> pastor: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: cd into the folder created
[12:22] <pastor> alguien habla español para que me explique como funciona esto?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> then type ./GetFlash
[12:22] <myk_> after a recent update, i have to connect twice with networkmanager. I will connect to my wifi router shortly after startup, but once i start Firefox, the connection drops. I connect one more time, and it stays stable. This never happened before that networkmanager updtae. Anyone else experienceing thins?
[12:24] <ninjagambit> nothing happens when i hit the tab button
[12:24] <pastor> hola
[12:24] <pastor> !es
[12:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: it should autocomplete the filename for you
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you could open the file with ark in the gui
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> just needs extracting
[12:28] <ninjagambit> ok i extracted it
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> ok in console cd into the new folder and run ./GetFlash
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you dont need to type run
[12:30] <finalstrike> the good thing on ubuntu is the updatep/app admin system. packs administrator are great. just a commmand and you have the app XD
[12:30] <finalstrike> who tested KDE 4 here? i would like to know the opinions
[12:30] <ninjagambit> ok im realy lost now
[12:31] <finalstrike> i use kde since i begin to use linux
[12:31] <ninjagambit> how do i sc into the new folder
[12:31] <ninjagambit> cd
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> cd <folder name>
[12:31] <ninjagambit> ok
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: again, use tab to autocomplete
[12:33] <ninjagambit> ok
[12:34] <ninjagambit> ok so far i got justin@Com1:~/install_flash_player_9_linux$ ./GetFlash
[12:34] <ninjagambit> but tab dosnt do anything but beep
[12:34] <ninjagambit> maby i need to set up hotkey
[12:34] <ninjagambit> or something
[12:34] <Dameth> Hi!
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you need to cd into the install_flash_player_9_linux folder
[12:35] <ninjagambit> i did
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: then run ./GetFlash
[12:35] <ninjagambit> didnt do anything
[12:35] <Dameth> can any1 help me with tftpd - tftp server?
[12:36] <ninjagambit> do i have to type run
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Dameth: can you provide more info please
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: no, just ./GetFlash
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: if you are in the folder you can type ./Ge then hit tab
[12:37] <Dameth> ActionParsnip: running kubuntu, installed tftpd package but cant find tftpd. If I install atftpd package cant make it run either
[12:37] <ninjagambit> nothing
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Dameth: what do you get from ps -ef | grep tftpd
[12:38] <Dameth> Action: just the grep line
[12:39] <Dameth> Action: and netstat -na | grep DGRAM  shows nothing listening on UDP 69
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Dameth: did you install it from repositorys?
[12:40] <ninjagambit> oh
[12:40] <ninjagambit> i know exactly what i did wrong now
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you need to use cd to get into the folder and run the file like the wizard says
[12:41] <Dameth> Action: hum... suppose so. All other packages I install/upgrade, even kubuntu upgrades work fine
[12:41] <ninjagambit> i should have the the pluginwraper
[12:41] <ninjagambit> but i dont think is is available anymore
[12:41] <ninjagambit> ill google it
[12:41] <Dameth> action: sudo apt-get install tftpd
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Dameth: looks ok to me
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Dameth: WHat about the result from which tftpd
[12:42] <Dameth> Action: no results, empty line
[12:43] <Dameth> Action: weird
[12:43] <ninjagambit> google didnt come up with anthing
[12:43] <ninjagambit> i downloaded the install_flash_player_9_linux
[12:44] <ninjagambit> the link you gave me calls for pluginwrapper-install-0-1.2.tar.gz
[12:44] <Dameth> Action: I can read the man tftpd info, but it seems the binary is not installed somehow
[12:45] <ninjagambit> but the link to the file dosnt work
[12:45] <ninjagambit> and google came up with nothing
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: id redownload the file from someplace else
[12:48] <thania> hii
[12:49] <moteyalpha> !fglrx
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <Dameth> exit
[12:50] <Dameth> ups
[12:50] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java runtime entertainment
[12:51] <ninjagambit> i found it
[12:51] <Jay-Oh-En> for this page http://208.57.3.117/Tegrity/NV%20Holistic%20Rubric/Class/Sun.htm
[12:51] <ninjagambit> got everything to work
[12:51] <ninjagambit> thanks for all the help
[12:51] <ninjagambit> i learned alot from that
[12:51] <ninjagambit> even figured
[12:52] <ninjagambit> out why the tab button wasnt working
[12:52] <ninjagambit> lol
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: you got it?
[12:53] <ninjagambit> yeah
[12:53] <ninjagambit> now to test it
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: sweet. make sure you close all your web browsers firest
[12:54] <ninjagambit> including this one
[12:54] <ninjagambit> ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: how do you chat on ird?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> irc*
[12:54] <ninjagambit> konversation
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: you on 32bit or 64bit?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: konversation is not a web browser
[12:56] <Jay-Oh-En> 32
[12:56] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: 32bit
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[12:58] <X314> somehow I dont think geting an OPC failed warning when burning a DVD with K3B is a good thing. but heeey what do I know. -.-
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin might work better
[12:59] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: why
[12:59] <Jay-Oh-En> ?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: try both, they shouldnt be too big
[12:59] <ninjagambit> well all that and still no you tube
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-f4267cc37a197ccf46397cc58ff0944838741956
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: do other flash sites work
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> try www.rathergood.com
[13:01] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: what is he on 32 or 64?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: 64
[13:01] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: shouldnt he install the restricted package
[13:02] <ninjagambit> nope
[13:02] <ninjagambit> did that
[13:02] <Jay-Oh-En> with java and all that
[13:02] <Jay-Oh-En> oh
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: I thought you meant ninjagambit
[13:02] <ninjagambit> oh me too
[13:03] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: i did
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: do you have java now
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: ?
[13:03] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: i do but will java 6 get in the way of java 5
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: it should update it but you could uninstall 5 before installing 6 to make sure
[13:04] <ninjagambit> can i ask why linux has such a problem geting stuff like adobe flashplayer 9 for 64
[13:05] <Jay-Oh-En> ninjagambit: cause nothing really works on 64 yet
[13:05] <Jucato> has Adobe even made a 64-bit Flash version already?
[13:05] <pag> ninjagambit, probably because Adobe doesn't provide 64bit Flash at all...
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: cos adobe havent made it yet. its closed source
[13:05] <Jay-Oh-En> ninjagambit: plus i dont think your going to be using all the bits anyways so stick with 32
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ninjagambit: there are open source equivelants
[13:06] <Jucato> but basically, 64-bit Flash doesn't exist yet, that's why.
[13:06] <Jucato> so blame Adobe :P
[13:06] <ninjagambit> i had it working for fedora
[13:06] <ninjagambit> 8
[13:07] <Jucato> [21:04] <ninjagambit> can i ask why linux has such a problem geting stuff like adobe flashplayer 9 for 64 <--- then why the question?
[13:07] <Jucato> (and are you sure it was 64-bit Flash? not 32-bit Flash running in 64-bit through nspluginwrapper or something?)
[13:07] <pag> ninjagambit, afaik RPM-distros generally supprot multi-arch, so Fedora can easily run 32bit apps in 64bit system
[13:07] <ninjagambit> oh
[13:08] <ninjagambit> thats what i wanted to know
[13:08] <Jucato> pag: Debian does too. it's not about how much architectures the distro supports
[13:08] <Jucato> (afaik Debian supports more archs than RH)
[13:09] <pag> Jucato, it's not as "easily" available yet.. in RPM-based you just can install an 32bit app. in Debian-based you'll have to play with libraries manually
[13:09] <pag> *install 32bit app in 64bit system
[13:09] <ninjagambit> maby i just had 32bit firefox
[13:09] <Jucato> !flash64
[13:09] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[13:09]  * ActionParsnip is sticking to 32bit til 64bit get s established properly
[13:09] <Jay-Oh-En> whats iced tea
[13:10] <Jucato> !info icedtea
[13:10] <ubotu> Package icedtea does not exist in gutsy
[13:10] <Jucato> bah...
[13:10] <Jucato> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IcedTea
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: its a cilled beverage of tea, sweetened with lemon. Its ace
[13:10] <Jucato> hahaha
[13:10] <kamalx> hi all!
[13:10] <Jucato> nah, it's a Java thing :D
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> hi kamalx
[13:11] <smooker> wa'
[13:11] <smooker> someone there ?
[13:11]  * kamalx had problems configuring pppoe connection on kubuntu gutsy.. could you please help..
[13:11] <smooker> hey ppls my internet is fucked :(
[13:11] <Jucato> !pppoe | kamalx
[13:11] <ubotu> kamalx: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[13:11] <kamalx> ActionParsnip: hi there :)
[13:12] <Jucato> smooker: please watch the language
[13:12] <smooker> i can use only this chat
[13:12] <smooker> :(
[13:12] <kamalx> ubotu: i followed that..
[13:12] <pag> smooker, disable knetworkmanager
[13:12] <kamalx> used pppoeconf
[13:12] <Jucato> !ubotu | kamalx
[13:12] <pag> smooker, .. if you don't use it, of course
[13:12] <ubotu> kamalx: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> smooker: how are you chatting then?
[13:13] <Jucato> might be a DNS problem
[13:13] <Jucato> (a.k.a. you can IRC, but not HTTP or IM)
[13:13] <webvictim> my internet connections on kubuntu gutsy are really slow... anyone have any ideas?
[13:13] <webvictim> it's like the initial packet is taking years to be sent
[13:13] <webvictim> as soon as it is, the connection speed is fine
[13:13] <moteyalpha> !Wireshark
[13:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:13] <webvictim> it's just that whenever it needs to start a connection, it hangs for ages
[13:14] <kamalx> i used pppoeconf but it hangs at the second step
[13:14] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: lol i meant the java called iced tea
[13:14] <Jucato> Jay-Oh-En: see the link I gave above
[13:15] <kamalx> Jucato: thanks.. i just understood why ubotu's replying my query.. :)
[13:15] <Jucato> Jay-Oh-En: or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea if you want that too
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: not seen it man, i'm not down with java
[13:15] <Jay-Oh-En> Jucato: so basically i dont need iced tea right?
[13:16] <Jucato> nope
[13:17] <pastulio> i installed proftpd from adept manager, n ow how do i get it to work so i can make an ftp server?
[13:17] <pastulio> i dont see it in the kmenu
[13:17] <webvictim> hmm, it seems the problem is with DNS
[13:18] <webvictim> nslookup is taking >10 seconds to return results
[13:18] <webvictim> and i have tried two different internet connections
[13:18] <nosrednaekim> pastulio: "man proftpd"
[13:19] <pastulio> is there no way it can be run in x?
[13:19] <nosrednaekim> pastulio: I don't know,I'm not familiar with it.
[13:19] <pastulio> okay, thanks anyways, i'll try searching some more
[13:28] <Jay-Oh-En> can somebody help me install this file http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com:80
[13:35] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-jre
[13:35] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 6179 kB, installed size 14168 kB
[13:35] <Jucato> Jay-Oh-En: why don't you just install Java from the packages?
[13:35] <Jay-Oh-En> idk it doesnt seem to be working
[13:35] <Jucato> jre if you need runtime, sdk for development (I think)
[13:35] <Jucato> how are you testing?
[13:36] <Jay-Oh-En> for this page http://208.57.3.117/Tegrity/NV%20Holistic%20Rubric/Class/Sun.htm
[13:36] <Kachna> hey dudes,just got a new notebook,installed ubuntu,an network unreachable,though forums say it should run ok...ideas where to start? :/
[13:36] <Kachna> i've dhcp on router,just running dhclient but it doesn't look very well :/
[13:36] <Kachna> no working leases in database - sleeping = wtf? :O
[13:38] <Jay-Oh-En> Jucato: i got it working
[13:38] <Jay-Oh-En> :]
[13:38] <Jucato> Jay-Oh-En: you are testing this on Konqueror or Firefox? if in Konqueror, did you enable Java for this web page already? if in Firefox, you need sun-java6-plugin
[13:38] <Jucato> bah!
[13:38] <ninjagambit> tada i got 32 bit firefox on my64
[13:38] <Jucato> :P
[13:38] <ninjagambit> thank you
[13:38] <ninjagambit> thank you ubotu
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> !wireless | Kachna
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> !ubontu
[13:38] <ubotu> Kachna: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubontu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> !ubotu
[13:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:38] <Kachna> nosrednaekim: it's wired :P
[13:38] <Jucato> !thanks | ninjagambit
[13:38] <ubotu> ninjagambit: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[13:38] <ninjagambit> thank you jucato
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> Kachna: oh.... great....
[13:39] <Kachna> if it was wireless,i'd google more,but i never had problems with wired :-)
[13:39] <Jay-Oh-En> Jucato: but why does firefox take up alot of my memory
[13:39] <newguyss> hi guys, do you know of any VPS provider with ubuntu ?
[13:39] <Jucato> Jay-Oh-En: because it's firefox. no other explanation necessary :D
[13:39] <Jucato> (at least for versions earlier than Firefox 3 supposed to be)
[13:39] <Jay-Oh-En> Jucato: then what should i use
[13:40] <Jucato> Firefox if it's the one that works for you. :)
[13:40]  * Jucato uses Konqueror mostly
[13:40] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: opera is lighter as is konqueror
[13:40] <Tm_T> bazhang: by what measure?
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> Kachna: what wired chipset?
[13:40]  * Tm_T uses only Konqueror <3
[13:40] <Eicca_> it seems like I have another irssi running somehow, because there is Eicca named client with the same ip, how do I close it?
[13:41] <Tm_T> Eicca_: ps aux | grep irssi
[13:41] <eicca> Highlight!
[13:41] <Tm_T> will tell you
[13:41] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang: kool ill try opera again since its so easy to install
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> !ghost
[13:41] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[13:41]  * Tm_T slaps Eicca_ and eicca 
[13:41] <Tm_T> !fi | Eicca_
[13:41] <ubotu> Eicca_: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[13:41] <eicca> Highlight!
[13:41] <eicca> Highlight!
[13:41] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang: will sun-java6-plugin work on it
[13:44] <DarkNova> i wan't to set up konverzation  trough ip adress using wireless and it' not working help
[13:46] <Kachna> nosrednaekim: intel 82562GT...hangin' with it..now i can do 1 ping to router,all other do no reach then
[13:47] <Kachna> lol
[13:47] <Jay-Oh-En> wow
[13:47] <Jay-Oh-En> whats happening
[13:48] <Kachna> some servers went down i'd say :P
[13:48] <Jay-Oh-En> omg im lagging so bad
[13:48] <Jucato> !netsplit
[13:48] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[13:48] <Jay-Oh-En> now im now
[13:48] <Jay-Oh-En> not
[13:48] <pastryness> when i click to start gproftpd nothing happens, it loads for a second then nothing happens, halp?
[13:52] <JackWinter> are there a list of known incompatibilities between untel 875 chipset and gutsy? i discovered a problem with detecting the agp bus, and i think i still have speed problems..
[13:53] <ninjagambit> well all that and still no youtube
[13:53] <ninjagambit> i might just change to 32 bit version
[13:53] <ninjagambit> of kubuntu
[13:53] <ninjagambit> but i have to go to bed tonight
[13:53] <ninjagambit> this morning
[13:53] <ninjagambit> thanks for all the help
[13:56] <bazhang> JackWinter: is that the newest intel video card?
[13:57] <JackWinter> no, it's the chipset used on p4 mainboards, like asus p4c
[13:57] <pastryness> is gproftp only for gnome?
[13:57] <bazhang> oh ok
[13:58] <pastryness> cos gproftp gui wont start on my kubuntu
[13:58] <JackWinter> i had to blacklist to kernel modules to get agp working.  i still have some speed problems though (i think ;-)
[14:02] <BenjaminD> can someone please guy me (newbie) through installing aiglx (using ATI Radeon M300)
[14:04] <TimS> !aiglx
[14:04] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[14:11] <Tm_T> hi rysiek|pl
[14:11] <rysiek|pl> hello, Tm_T
[14:11] <rysiek|pl> it's quiet... too quiet
[14:11]  * rysiek|pl looks around, anxiously
[14:12] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: have you, by any chance, ever used netboot?
[14:12] <bazhang> haha
[14:13] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: I have
[14:13] <Jay-Oh-En> is there anyway to make the clock transparent
[14:13] <Tm_T> Jay-Oh-En: hm? what settings you have in clock atm?
[14:13] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: so... any pointers where to start? aptitude search netboot geves me some packages ment for the client-side
[14:14] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: and I don't seem to be able to find anything to be installed on server-side
[14:14] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: mmm, don't know, I'm only user in that side
[14:14] <rysiek|pl> ah
[14:14] <rysiek|pl> ok, back to google
[14:14] <Tm_T> you asked about using, see ;)
[14:14] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: yeah, I meant using as an admin ;)
[14:15]  * Tm_T lost his crystal ball
[14:16] <rysiek|pl> oh noes! without your crytsal ball, how *are* you going to help all those in need here?
[14:20] <moteyalpha> What is the deal with ATI drivers, Is it completely impossible to use them with gutsy?
[14:21] <Tm_T> !ati | moteyalpha
[14:21] <ubotu> moteyalpha: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:21] <moteyalpha> Nope I do dev for mesa3d and there is a real problem
[14:21] <Tm_T> moteyalpha: mind to elaborate?
[14:21] <Kachna> ok,well guys,got this problem: my router is set to set IPs by dhcp to 192.168.2.2-10 ...however, ny notebook keeps getting some strnge ip, or gives me network is unreachable,any idea why?
[14:22] <moteyalpha> I have installed ATI drivers about 20 times on other distros and gotten it to work, now there is a mismatch with ati and system
[14:23] <Tm_T> moteyalpha: yes?
[14:23] <MaTiAz> hurm, how did you change the mouse button behavior? Currently the mouse scroll isn't working and pressing the scroll wheel is paste :|
[14:23] <moteyalpha> xorg.conf has changeed to xorg.conf.1
[14:24] <moteyalpha> !fglrx
[14:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:25] <moteyalpha> !gdb
[14:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:27] <moteyalpha> Tm_T is there any more technical reference to the restricted driver issue and possible resolutions like removing ATI card forever :)
[14:27] <Tm_T> mmm
[14:27] <Tm_T> I don't know much about ati
[14:28] <Tm_T> moteyalpha: also you haven't told enough to me to know what exactly is your problem
[14:28] <Tm_T> moi admini
[14:29] <moteyalpha> Tm_T The ati drivers do not install correctly because the provided drivers look for a file named xorg.conf and it does not exist in gutsy
[14:29] <admini> moi
[14:29] <admini> miten vaihan nimen
[14:29] <Tm_T> admini: /nick foo
[14:30] <Mikko> Kiitti eka kerta kubuntulla :D siis kokonaan
[14:30] <Tm_T> Mikko: english here, finnish in #kubuntu-fi
[14:30] <Tm_T> thanks
[14:30] <Mikko> ok :D
[14:30] <Mikko> but can someone help me with installing things that i can see youtube things etc
[14:31] <Tm_T> Mikko: install kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[14:31] <Tm_T> !flash
[14:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:31] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: what card do you have (model) and is it connected using PCI-Express?
[14:31] <rysiek|pl> ubotu needs some updates, as far as I can see
[14:31] <Mikko> !flash
[14:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:31] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: x1600
[14:32] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: PCI-Express?
[14:32] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: yes
[14:32] <skyfalcon866> how do i get tracker to work
[14:32] <moteyalpha> Awfully quiet , not another split I hope.
[14:32] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: current ATI binary drivers have a bug that causes that direct rendering can't be initialized on PCI-Express X1xx cards
[14:32] <rysiek|pl> *X1xxx
[14:33] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: I have ATI running with all other distros except gutsy
[14:34] <skyfalcon866> how do i get tracker to work
[14:34] <skyfalcon866> in kde
[14:34] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: check the driver versions, are those the same?
[14:34] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: yes
[14:35] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: hummm... give me a sec
[14:36] <pol_> Hello, I can I know if my chipset graphic is well installed ? I tray to play gta2 but gome some graphics problem : can't launch it in window mode, extremely slow... can someone help me please ?
[14:37] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: can't find the bug ATM, could you: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and paste it on nopaste?
[14:38] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: yes give me a moment thx
[14:38] <rysiek|pl> ok
[14:44] <cWolfe> does anyone know if krfb keeps logs, if so where are they?
[14:45] <cWolfe> someone keeps trying to connect - they dont succeed, but I would like an ip address
[14:45] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: I am going to research the log myself and I will see if I can't be more intelligent about what is going on, I am behind in my mesa3d and xorg dev list and maybe somebody has dealt with this issue.
[14:45] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: When I have a clear answer I will let you know.
[14:46] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: if you'd pasted the grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log so that I can see it, I would give you a link to the bug on launchpad
[14:46] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: but do as you wish :)
[14:47] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: Alright I will
[14:48] <astalavista> Hi
[14:48] <posingaspopular> hi astalavista
[14:48] <astalavista> can you give me how to install a printer dymo labelwriter 400 turbo not under wine?
[14:50] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: http://rafb.net/p/gy4DEZ47.html
[14:51] <andrea_cr> a
[14:51] <astalavista> Are there Italian peolple for questions?
[14:51] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: (EE) Unable to locate/open config file -> you don't have a xorg.conf file
[14:52] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: it hould be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:52] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: do you have anything there?
[14:52] <RogueJediX> !it | astalavista
[14:52] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: no, I see something did not lock and made a back and failed to make new, I get it now.
[14:52] <ubotu> astalavista: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:52] <milosmaric> hello, I've just instaled new HDD and don't know how to change premission for writing because I can write only as an
[14:52] <milosmaric> root, and not as regular user
[14:53] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: Didn't know I could even run with xorg.conf :) (thankyou much I will fix that.
[14:54] <Mikko> how do i install java on kubuntu
[14:55] <jpatrick> !java | Mikko
[14:55] <ubotu> Mikko: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[14:55] <Mikko> u mean i download that edgy thing?
[14:56] <astalavista> there isn't problem
[14:56] <Mikko> !java
[14:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[14:56] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: Are you just taking a turn troubleshooting or around here a lot?
[14:57] <astalavista> i'm trying to install dymo labelprinter whith CUPS but i don't say if is possible
[14:58] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: sorry, I'm in my job, so I tend to have a moments of absency ;)
[14:58] <astalavista> anyone have installed it
[14:59] <moteyalpha> rysiek|pl: Thanks I really appreciate the good work you are doing. ttyl
[15:00] <astalavista> i'm try to another channel. Bye.
[15:00] <rysiek|pl> moteyalpha: just revert to the old xorg.conf and restart the XServer; if something does not work - grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:00] <rysiek|pl> ah, he's gone
[15:05] <kristjan_> ok how do I get back old "find://" for konqueror?
[15:06] <jpatrick> kristjan_: I think it's locate:/
[15:06] <pol_> hello, I'm on X Window System Version 7.2.0, how can I update it please ?
[15:06] <kristjan_> jpatrick: ahaa, that must be it :-)
[15:07] <sourcemaker> It's maybe the wrong channel for this question. But have somebody any experiance with FreeBSD compared to kubuntu?
[15:07] <TheNo1Yeti> Yea, it's kinda like comparing apples to cumquats
[15:08] <kristjan_> I want the kdm theme change to take effect without restarting kdm - what entry should I look for in the file "/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc"?
[15:09] <jpatrick> kristjan_: you could try installing kdmtheme and seeing from there
[15:10] <kristjan_> jpatrick: kdmtheme application only allows to install themes, not much else + last time I tried it was broken
[15:11] <jpatrick> hmm
[15:11] <kristjan_> jpatrick: I just want to kdm theme changes to take effect without kdm --restart, I'm fine with manual theme installation
[15:12] <pol__> Hello, I'm running X Window System Version 7.2.0, how can I update it to 7.3 please ?
[15:12] <sourcemaker> pol__: apt-get update
[15:12] <sourcemaker> apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:13] <jpatrick> kristjan_: I don't think you have to restart, it will pick it up on next restart no?
[15:13] <pol__> sourcemaker : it will upgrade anything ?
[15:13] <pol__> everything*
[15:13] <stdin> pol__: 7.3 is not in gutsy
[15:14] <sourcemaker> pol__:  yes :-) but you can also only update the xserver apt-get update $packagename
[15:14] <kristjan_> jpatrick: in the good old days - you could see the changes while logging out - but now it's also needed to run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm --restart" to see changes
[15:14] <pol__> sourcemaker : what's the name for X window manager ?
[15:14] <sourcemaker> pol__: let me look
[15:15] <pol__> thnaks
[15:15] <osman47> !de
[15:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:17] <sourcemaker> pol__: i am not sure... but maybe xserver-xorg-core
[15:17] <pol__> I'm gonna try that
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy All : )
[15:18] <sourcemaker> pol__: better: try apt-get dist-upgrade and have a look... if there is a package name with xserver
[15:19] <pol__> a little bit too late ;
[15:19] <pol__> ;)
[15:22] <kristjan_> jpatrick: I will see if this unwanted behaviour was caused by commented UseTheme=
[15:28] <Mikko> Someone give me a link to kubuntu fi :D
[15:29] <Jucato> !fi | Mikko
[15:29] <ubotu> Mikko: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[15:31] <dusan_> hello
[15:31] <dusan_> can somebody help me
[15:31] <King1> hello
[15:31] <King1> my wireless is not working can anyone help me?
[15:31] <dusan_> I need help for kubuntu
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !wireless | King1
[15:32] <ubotu> King1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:32] <dusan_> I went to youtube
[15:32] <dusan_> and install macromedia player
[15:32] <dusan_> but it crashs
[15:32] <dusan_> and kopet crashs
[15:33] <dusan_> can somebody help me
[15:33] <BluesKaj> dusan_, install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:33] <dusan_> how
[15:33] <dusan_> I am a new user
[15:33] <BluesKaj> with adept
[15:34] <dusan_> in terminal?
[15:34] <eshat> is there a way to compile synaptic with qt support only?
[15:34] <dusan_> @blues
[15:34] <dusan_> can you give me the code
[15:35] <BluesKaj> dusan_, , open adept , then Ill walk you thru
[15:35] <pag> dusan_, " sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree " if you really want to do it in terminal... IMHO using Adept could really be easier..
[15:35] <BluesKaj> pag, dont think his souces.list is configged for nonfree media
[15:35] <dusan_> I opened adept menager
[15:36] <pag> BluesKaj, oh.. forgot that, sorry :-)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> dusan_, ok now , click on adept at top right,manage repositories,kubuntu software
[15:37] <BluesKaj> er top left , sorry
[15:37] <dusan_> ok
[15:37] <dusan_> then?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> dusan_, make sure akk the boxes are ''x' d
[15:38] <BluesKaj> all
[15:38] <dusan_> I checked all
[15:38] <dusan_> what now?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> then click on third party software , x all boxes
[15:39] <dusan_> ok
[15:39] <dusan_> now???
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ok dusan_ now type or copy and paste  flashplugin-nonfree in to the searchbox
[15:40] <BluesKaj> click on apply changes
[15:41] <BluesKaj> after choosing flashplugin-nonfree of course
[15:41] <dusan_> hmmm
[15:42] <dusan_> adept menager started instaling some update files
[15:42] <dusan_> downloading them
[15:42] <BluesKaj> do you see flashplugin-nonfree in the list?
[15:42] <dusan_> 16 files
[15:42] <dusan_> no
[15:42] <dusan_> just downloading screen
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yes it's updating first , sorry i should have mentioned that
[15:43] <dusan_> @blues
[15:43] <dusan_> how to put proxy server
[15:43] <dusan_> for all connections
[15:43] <BluesKaj> wait , we aren't finished yet
[15:43] <BluesKaj> one thing at a time
[15:43] <dusan_> ok
[15:44] <dusan_> but because of proxy my connection is slow
[15:44] <dusan_> it shoul be 256/64
[15:44] <dusan_> but its much slower]
[15:44] <BluesKaj> dusan_, let me know when adept has finished updating
[15:44] <dusan_> ok
[15:44] <dusan_> sure
[15:45] <BluesKaj> you will then have to choose whether you wnat to upgrade/update the apps in the list
[15:45] <dusan_> oh nooo
[15:45] <dusan_> This backtrace appears to be of no use.
[15:45] <dusan_> This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces, or the stack frame was seriously corrupted in the crash.
[15:45] <dusan_> (no debugging symbols found)
[15:45] <dusan_> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[15:46] <dusan_> what is this?
[15:47] <dusan_> it downloaded 30%
[15:48] <BluesKaj> brb, gotta reboot my router ...very slow here
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ahh, that's better ...had a 20sec lag
[15:53] <dusan_> it's 60%
[15:54] <BluesKaj> ok, just let it come down.../is it the first time you've updated with adept ?
[15:54] <dusan_> yes
[15:54] <dusan_> I installed kubuntu today
[15:54] <dusan_> for a first time
[15:54] <BluesKaj> then it will take some time
[15:55] <dusan_> @blue
[15:55] <dusan_> can i aske you?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> especially if you're behind a proxy server
[15:55] <dusan_> but it supose to work normally
[15:56] <dusan_> will I have a problems with internet
[15:56] <BluesKaj> is it a public or company proxy
[15:56] <dusan_> because of proxy
[15:56] <dusan_> Public
[15:56] <dusan_> I supose
[15:57] <dusan_> i get it from my ISP
[15:57] <bart__> hi
[15:57] <bart__> i need a bit of help pls
[15:57] <BluesKaj> is it necessary to use a proxy , dusan_ ?
[15:57] <dusan_> yes
[15:57] <dusan_> thats the only way
[15:57] <pag> bart__, just ask the question :)
[15:58] <moteyalpha_> !fglrx
[15:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:58] <moteyalpha_> !xorg
[15:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:58] <bart__> hey i want a bit of help
[15:58] <bart__> m doing a bit of comp hardware stuff
[15:59] <bart__> wanna know where i can find help on comp hardware interfacing USB ports
[15:59] <moteyalpha_> I was in here a few minutes ago about ATI with xorg.conf problem and I can't remember who I spoke to , problem is fixed and I wanted to report how it is fixed.
[16:00] <Dr_willis> :) Magicially fixed? :)
[16:00] <BluesKaj> dusan_, if you are worried about DOS attacks ?
[16:00] <moteyalpha_> Tm_T?
[16:00] <dusan_> no
[16:00] <dusan_> but thats the offer from my ISP
[16:00] <dusan_> that is ceap
[16:00] <Tm_T> moteyalpha_: shoot me
[16:01] <Xcell> lol
[16:01] <moteyalpha_> Tm_T I was in here a few minutes ago about ATI with xorg.conf problem and I can't remember who I spoke to , problem is fixed and I wanted to report how it is fixed.
[16:01] <dusan_> but p2p programs doesnt works
[16:01] <BluesKaj> your ISP makes you use their proxy to keep costs down ?
[16:02] <dusan_> ther are many packets
[16:02] <dusan_> but i dont have money
[16:02] <moteyalpha_> Tm_T ATI install renamed my xorg.conf to xorg.conf.1 and did not create new xorg.conf when I renamed xorg.conf.1 back to xorg.conf ATI worked and I have DRI.
[16:02] <dusan_> and i bought the ceapest
[16:03] <Tm_T> moteyalpha_: lovely
[16:03] <dusan_> through the proxy
[16:03] <moteyalpha_> Tm_T thanks again bye.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> the cheapest isn't always the best for p2p
[16:04] <dusan_> no,no
[16:04] <dusan_> the p2p doesnt work
[16:04] <Tm_T> !away | reinhold
[16:04] <ubotu> reinhold: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[16:04] <dusan_> because of proxy
[16:04] <dusan_> thats way is this packet so cheap
[16:04] <dusan_> sorry about my english
[16:04] <dusan_> I am from serbia
[16:05] <dusan_> 2 more updates
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yes , you're doing fine dusan_
[16:06] <dusan_> on our language we have a forum
[16:06] <dusan_> but ther are a few kubuntu users
[16:08] <dusan_> @blues
[16:08] <dusan_> the screen is gone
[16:09] <dusan_> and i found flash plugin
[16:09] <dusan_> its says not install
[16:09] <dusan_> what now?
[16:09] <fsufitch> hey, i'm having a problem with my KDE; i did a fresh ubuntu install then installed kde; it's working fine, but when i run a gnome program it looks unthemed (ugly rectangular buttons, no gradients etc) even though i do have themes set; it suddenly starts working after i run gnome-appearance-properties, but it's a pain running that every time i log in, then closing the window that pops up; anybody having the same problem or have a solution?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> ok dusan_ click on it , choose install, then apply changes
[16:10] <dusan_> request install????
[16:10] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:10] <dusan_> ok
[16:11] <BluesKaj> apply changes
[16:11] <pag> fsufitch, try installing gtk-qt-engine package.. it might help a bit
[16:11] <dusan_> configuring...
[16:12] <bart__> can sum1 help me?
[16:12] <dusan_> it still says configuring...
[16:12] <bart__> pls??
[16:13] <BluesKaj> !ask
[16:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:13] <bart__> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALP
[16:13] <Jeroi> hello
[16:13] <Jeroi> I have question
[16:13] <Jeroi> I had previously edgy eft
[16:13] <grul> hello I HAVE An answer!
[16:13] <bart__> i wanna know where i can find USB help
[16:14] <MrDuck> anyone with HP 530 or 6720s notebook?
[16:14] <Jeroi> then I upgraded to feisty fawn and some how I managed to broge it
[16:14] <grul> !usb
[16:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:14] <osman47> !de
[16:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:14] <bart__> thanks
[16:14] <Jeroi> Fristly I have xp on sata disk
[16:14] <fsufitch> pag: thanks
[16:14] <Jeroi> in the same disk I have also my kubuntu
[16:15] <Jeroi> but becase kubuntu was broke, I taught that I instal frexh copy of gubsy gibbon
[16:15] <bart__> n btw, i can help a bit, know a lil abt linux
[16:15] <dusan_> @blues
[16:15] <Jeroi> when I did that
[16:15] <Jeroi> it somehow broge grub
[16:15] <dusan_> how to set proxy
[16:15] <Jeroi> broke
[16:15] <Jeroi> and now I get error 17
[16:15] <Jeroi> when grub starts
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !proxy | dusan_
[16:16] <ubotu> dusan_: #ubuntu and related channels prohibit access from proxy servers due to a high level of abuse. Project cloaks allowed: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[16:16] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[16:16] <Jeroi> I have noe downloaded ultimate grub install boot cd and I can get kubuntu to boot
[16:16] <Jeroi> but
[16:16] <Jeroi> My when I try to boot windows, it says hal.dll missing
[16:16] <Jeroi> from system32
[16:16] <bart__> @dusan_ : what u wanna know?
[16:16] <Jeroi> now my answer is
[16:17] <Tm_T> Jeroi: that's Windows problem
[16:17] <Jeroi> I mean question
[16:17] <Jeroi> how can I get windows ntfs disk to be mounted?
[16:17] <alesan> !skype
[16:17] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[16:17] <Jeroi> all my other ntfs disks are mounted atm
[16:17] <Jeroi> so that I can add that dll file into system32 folder
[16:18] <bart__> @jero: i think ur partition is messed up
[16:18] <Jeroi> ?
[16:18] <dusan_> @bart
[16:18] <pag> Jeroi, " sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdXY /mount/point "
[16:18] <bart__> @dusan_ shoot
[16:18] <dusan_> my internet packet goes try the proxy
[16:18] <dusan_> how to make kubuntu to work with proxy
[16:19] <Jeroi> root@Jeroi:~# sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdXY /mount/sda1
[16:19] <Jeroi> Failed to access '/dev/sdXY': No such file or directory
[16:19] <Jeroi> lol
[16:19] <Tm_T> dusan_: you are repeating?
[16:19] <Jeroi> I try again
[16:19] <dusan_> well
[16:19] <dusan_> help me
[16:19] <bart__> dusan_ u wanna browse da internet??
[16:19] <pag> Jeroi, you have to have right letter and number there ;) ie. sda5 or sdb2
[16:19] <Jeroi> what is mount point?
[16:19] <bart__> what browser are u using?
[16:20] <dusan_> I set the proxy in konqueror
[16:20] <Tm_T> !u | bart__
[16:20] <ubotu> bart__: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[16:20] <dusan_> but when I download some upgrads
[16:20] <dusan_> and programs try adepr
[16:20] <dusan_> its wery slow
[16:20] <dusan_> like dial up
[16:20] <pag> Jeroi, a place where you want that partition to be mounted - must be an empty directory ie. /media/windows  could do the job
[16:20] <Jeroi> root@Jeroi:~# sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mount/point
[16:20] <Jeroi> Unexpected clusters per mft record (-1).
[16:20] <Jeroi> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Invalid argument
[16:20] <Jeroi> The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[16:20] <Jeroi> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[16:20] <Jeroi> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[16:20] <DaSkreech> Hi all
[16:20] <pag> !paste | Jeroi
[16:20] <DaSkreech> !paste | Jeroi
[16:20] <ubotu> Jeroi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:21] <DaSkreech> I'm having an issue unmounting a drive
[16:21] <Jeroi> is ther way to fix the ntfs partition
[16:21] <Jeroi> ?
[16:21] <bart__> dusan_so u are having speed problems?? or are u unable to browse da internet at all?
[16:21] <Jeroi> alteast kubuntu broke it
[16:21] <Jeroi> or the installer did
[16:21] <BluesKaj> dusan_, are you setting the proxy server yourself ?
[16:21] <dusan_> speed problem
[16:21] <dusan_> yes
[16:22] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[16:22] <BluesKaj> why ?
[16:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[16:22] <dusan_> I set at konqueror
[16:22] <dusan_> and its fast
[16:22] <dusan_> but in adept
[16:22] <dusan_> its slow
[16:22] <BluesKaj> if your ISP isn't providing it , then why bother ?
[16:22] <bart__> dusan_ k then u dnt need to wory abt the proxy i think, cus ur ftp requests wont b going through them, actually depends on how u have set up da proxy settings
[16:23] <bart__> dusan_trythis
[16:23] <dusan_> proxy.vektor.net
[16:23] <dusan_> port 8080
[16:23] <bart__> use proxy for only http
[16:23] <bart__> nothing else
[16:23] <bart__> dont chk the box dat says use dis proxy for everything
[16:23] <pag> bart__, please, try writing (more or less) proper English - it eases up reading a lot
[16:24] <dusan_> but I need to use proxy
[16:24] <bart__> @pag: are you reading what am writing?
[16:24] <bart__> hehe
[16:24] <bart__> sory
[16:24] <dusan_> if not,internet will work like dial up
[16:24] <Jucato> !u
[16:24] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[16:25] <bart__> yeah, you can use a proxy
[16:25] <DaSkreech> dats rite!
[16:25] <bart__> but not for ftp
[16:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. dats ryt
[16:25] <bart__> use only for http
[16:25] <DaSkreech> Jucato: :)
[16:25] <DaSkreech> I type corrected
[16:25] <bart__> try that and see what happens
[16:25] <dusan_> @blues
[16:26] <dusan_> i installed
[16:27] <dusan_> but crash handler apears
[16:28]  * BluesKaj doesn't understand an ISP that requires their customers to use a proxy without providing it , to keeps speeds down ?
[16:28] <DaSkreech> Everytime I try to unmount the drive it is in use
[16:28] <dusan_> thats the catch
[16:29] <DaSkreech> but I can't find any processes which are using it
[16:29] <dusan_> cheap but works only for www
[16:29] <dusan_> http
[16:30] <Jucato> DaSkreech: any konqueror window/tab that formerly browsed the drive still open?
[16:30] <Jucato> (or maybe a kio process?)
[16:30] <DaSkreech> I killed X
[16:30] <dusan_> so,ther is no way to set this proxy?
[16:30] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  try the  fuser /dev/device   command?
[16:30] <DaSkreech> ah
[16:30] <bart__> DaSkreech: i had da same prob
[16:30] <bart__> DaSkreech: cant u umount it from da terminal?
[16:31] <DaSkreech> Nope
[16:31] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: returns with no output
[16:31] <BluesKaj> dusan_, try in the terminal " sudo apt-get update ", then relogin
[16:31] <Dr_willis> interesting. You tried unmounting it with sudo i assume? :)
[16:32] <DaSkreech> :-)
[16:32] <Dr_willis> what device is stuck anyway?
[16:32] <bart__> DaSkreech: is it a NTS partition?
[16:32] <DaSkreech> A external USB device
[16:32] <DaSkreech> which somehow got partitioned in two
[16:32] <DaSkreech>  the NTFS partition unmounts fine the Reiser is being more stubborn
[16:33] <dusan_> @blues
[16:33] <dusan_> relogin-command not found
[16:33] <bart__> DaSkreech: think there is a switch to force and unount
[16:33] <DaSkreech> lazy unmount
[16:33] <bart__> DaSkreech: hehe try that
[16:33] <DaSkreech> But I'd rather try and figure out whats making it hang
[16:33] <DaSkreech>  since the drive is in problems already .....
[16:33] <BluesKaj> dusan_, click on the k-menu and logout
[16:34] <DaSkreech> Is it possible for a drive to be locked and nothing is accessing it?
[16:35] <bart__> DaSkreech: ok, i guess then its something to do with the USB controller
[16:35] <DaSkreech> Well its two partitions
[16:35] <DaSkreech> one unmounts fine
[16:35] <DaSkreech> one doesn't
[16:36]  * Dr_willis hands DaSkreech  a hammer
[16:36] <bart__> DaSkreech: what sort of USB device is it?
[16:36] <DaSkreech> Well does kinda look like a nail.
[16:36] <DaSkreech> guess I'll just pull the power calbe
[16:37] <DaSkreech> cable
[16:37] <bart__> Dr_willis: am having the same thought
[16:37] <dusan> kubuntu won't open ntfs partition
[16:37] <Dr_willis> use the sync command a few dozen times to force the disk buffers to cache
[16:37] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[16:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[16:38] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | dusan
[16:38] <ubotu> dusan: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:38] <DaSkreech> Well that worked nicely
[16:39] <dusan> whic mp3 codecs can you recomend me?
[16:39] <dusan> which
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Depends on the player dusan  - be sure to install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package first
[16:39] <DaSkreech> How many mp3 codecs are there?
[16:40] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i was wonering that also. :) but some apps need this lib for mp3. other apps may need some other app...
[16:40] <Dr_willis> so perhaps the term codec is not correct.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> dusan, in the terminal type :' sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg '
[16:41] <dusan> this slow connection is killing me
[16:43] <BluesKaj> dusan, then i guess you'll have to pay more for greater bandwidth and no proxy :(
[16:43] <Daisuke-Ido> it may be inconveniencing you, but killing is unlikely.  unless you have a cjigh voltage transformer hooked up to your nipples withe a clause saying it won't discharge unless your speed falls below 25kb/s.  then it would be killing you.
[16:43] <Daisuke-Ido> high*
[16:44] <BluesKaj> Daisuke-Ido, nice !
[16:44] <Dr_willis> Sounds like my last Date...
[16:44] <Dr_willis> :P
[16:44] <bart__> hehe
[16:44] <bart__> mine was worse
[16:44] <dusan> but why I cant have a normal internet speed when downloadin?why kubuntu does that to me?
[16:45] <dusan> I use computer for the internet
[16:45] <Dr_willis> dusan,  its possible its the servers that are slow today.
[16:45] <bart__> dusan: you mean in windows you get better speed?????
[16:45] <dusan> Browsers works fine
[16:45] <dusan> but adept is so slow
[16:46] <dusan> thats the  problem
[16:46] <bart__> dusan: brosing would work fine cus they dont use so much bandwith as downloading
[16:46] <dusan> and that crush handler
[16:46] <bart__> dusan: DOES WINDOWS GIVE YOU BETTER SPEED??
[16:46] <DaSkreech> !caps | bart__
[16:46] <ubotu> bart__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[16:47] <Dr_willis> download the same .iso under both os's and see.
[16:47] <dusan> @ bart
[16:47] <dusan> YES
[16:47] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[16:47] <Xcell> lol
[16:47] <dusan> but i wont linux
[16:47] <Dr_willis> dusan,  note you can start typing someones nick then hit the TAB key. and it should complete the rest of their nick
[16:49] <bart__> dusan: funny hehe ok so maybe you have some stuff that is being downloaded in Ubuntu
[16:49] <DaSkreech> dusan: if you wget things does it move faster
[16:49] <DaSkreech> I just want to find out if it's the server or the interface
[16:49] <DaSkreech> !tab
[16:49] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:51] <lalalande> hi the room
[16:52] <lalalande> hi the room
[16:53] <lalalande> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634126&page=2   is this safe?
[16:53] <Dr_willis> lalalande,  you might want to give a brief summary
[16:53] <dusan> @DaSkreech    wget?Whats that?
[16:54] <lalalande> ok the main problem was that flash player didn't work
[16:54] <DaSkreech> dusan: A fairly popular linux download/spider utility
[16:54] <dusan> how to get it?
[16:55] <lalalande> and they recommended to edit the " gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"....
[16:56] <sean> I heard there's a great opensource imaging tool as powerful as ghost
[16:56] <sean> anyone know what its called?
[16:56] <Dr_willis> Thers proberly several - depends on your exact needs.
[16:56] <DaSkreech> dusan: It's installed already
[16:56] <Dr_willis> I used the mondo/mindi apps a year ago.. :) i liked how it worked..
[16:57] <DaSkreech> lalalande: It would be kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in KDE
[16:57] <Dr_willis> Theres other backup/restore tools out there also. wasent there one called 'ghostforlinux' or somthing like that
[16:57] <Dr_willis> !find ghost
[16:57] <ubotu> Found: kghostview, ghostscript, ghostscript-doc, ghostscript-x
[16:57] <Dr_willis> !find g4l
[16:57] <lalalande> well i have also gnome installed
[16:57] <sean> ghostforlinux?  I thought that was actulaly made by symantec
[16:57] <ubotu> Package/file g4l does not exist in gutsy
[16:57] <Dr_willis> sean,  they may have had to change their name. :)
[16:58] <Dr_willis> i havent messed with it myself. I just rember some time back there being tool with a name similer to that.
[16:58] <rysiek|pl> sean: it's dd + nc + bzip2 ;)
[16:59] <lalalande> DaSKreech_: what's the worst that can happen?
[16:59] <Dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[16:59] <Dr_willis> G4L is a hard disk and partition imaging and cloning tool. The created images are optionally compressed and transferred to an FTP server instead of cloning locally.
[16:59] <rysiek|pl> sean: I am restoring a box from such an image just now
[16:59] <Eicca> what was the mount command if I want to mount sda1 partition?
[16:59] <PPSD> hi
[17:00] <Dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/THISDIRMUSTEXISTFIRST
[17:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:00] <Dr_willis> with whatever options you may need.
[17:00] <Eicca> Dr_willis: thanks
[17:00] <Dr_willis> Linux FUNdaMENTALS !;)
[17:01] <DaSkreech> lalalande: I'm not sure I understand the page. What are they asking you to change?
[17:01] <PPSD> a few days ago i suddendly had no write access to any files anymore, after restarting fsck was forced and many errors corrected. afterwards everything worked. today i got the same except after a clean shutdown. what could be the problem? (hd is pretty new)
[17:02] <Dr_willis> PPSD,   Well i would be backing up anything imporntant  As soon as you can.
[17:02] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: and after backing up - do: sudo badblocks -n -s /dev/YOURDISKDEVICE
[17:03] <PPSD> Dr_willis: already doing so every evening before shutting down
[17:03] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: and watch those bad blocks fly
[17:03] <mallize> can you make firefox use the kde wallet like konqueror does?
[17:03] <Dr_willis> PPSD,  check the output of 'dmesg' and see if theres any messages about  bad disk/badblockd an so forth.
[17:03] <Dr_willis>  rysiek|pl  where were you last week when i needed to remebr that command. :)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  actually the hd i had.. i used that on.. and it couldent even finish ... so that HD went to the trash. :)
[17:03] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: last week? my job I think
[17:04] <Dr_willis> lost my 120gb of.. well... not much really heh heh..
[17:04] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: (sh)it happens ;)
[17:04] <PPSD> Dr_willis: in /var/log/dmesg there's nothing about blocks or disks
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Yep. HD's are getting cheaper all the time.
[17:04] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: can i do that in normal runlevel 5 ?
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Im waiting for 1 TB disks to get $100 :)
[17:05] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: aye, but 1. that will clog your machine (it's quite CPU- and disk-intensive)
[17:05] <sean> Dr_willis: thanks, thats at least given me something to search for
[17:05] <no0tic> hi, I installed mysql-server, setted a user and a database for amarok, but amarok doesn't create a collection on mysql anyway. Is there a bug? I couldn't find it
[17:05] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: it will run a long time, so I would suggest living it running when you got to work/go to sleep
[17:05] <sean> rysiek|pl: lol, I need something a little more robust however.  Im looking to do multicasting not just snigle restorations
[17:05] <sean> :)
[17:05] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: and fsck doesnt do what badblocks can do?
[17:05] <rysiek|pl> sean: add tee here and there ;)
[17:06] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: fsck checks the filesystem - that is, an abstract entity ON the disk
[17:06] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: ah got it
[17:06] <Dr_willis> sean,  mondo/mindi is a bit more like that..  I used ot to back up to a samba server. then used its restore disk to restore all the machines from that one server.
[17:06] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: badblocks checks the disk itself - physicall device blocks
[17:06] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: thanks
[17:06] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: so if it finds something, does it mean that just something went wrong or that the disk is phsyically damaged?
[17:06] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: your welcome :)
[17:07] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: hmmm
[17:07] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: if it finds anything, there are bad blocks on the device
[17:07] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: that means some physical damages, yes
[17:07] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: *BUT* every disk drive has some spare blocks
[17:07] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: ok, that would suck but good to know ^^
[17:07] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: i see
[17:08] <Dr_willis> of course if the disks starts making funny noises..  and seems to be good.. then bad.. then good.. then bad...
[17:08] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[17:08] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: and it *may* - just *may* "swap out" the damaged ones, if there aren't too many of them
[17:08] <Dr_willis> Hay Minataku
[17:08] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: ok but should be a starting point anyway, because this error/repair action won't probably work many more times
[17:09] <Minataku> My guideline is that as soon as there's suspicion of drive failure, it's no longer trusted and assumed to fail shortly
[17:09] <Dr_willis> My HD would boot, then about 10 min later.. it would have an error and get remounted read only. :(
[17:09] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: exactly. if you see some bad blocks - buy a new drive and do a backup immediately
[17:09] <rysiek|pl> Minataku: aye
[17:09] <Dr_willis> Then it wouldent even fdisk properly.
[17:09]  * rysiek|pl has to go home - as he *can* go home. ;)
[17:10] <Minataku> Yeah, anything like that is perfect evidence that the drive is bad
[17:10] <Minataku> lol
[17:10] <rysiek|pl> cu later y'all
[17:10] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: ok thanks for now, don't need the machine anymore today so i will just start it
[17:10] <rysiek|pl> PPSD: g'luck
[17:10] <PPSD> rysiek|pl: thanks, goodbye
[17:10] <Minataku> Piyoko's drive started making a really soft but weird kinda grinding noise
[17:11] <phobos> cze
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Sort of like a Duck stuck in a Blender?
[17:11] <phobos> pl??
[17:11] <Dr_willis> phobos,  Huh?
[17:11] <Minataku> I turned her off for a week, when I turned it back on, the noise was gone, but I deemed the drive untrustable anyway
[17:11] <phobos> Im PL
[17:11] <Minataku> As for why I turned her back on, I wanted to check the drive before I installed the new one I just bought
[17:11]  * Dr_willis wonders what PL means...
[17:11] <Dr_willis> !pl
[17:11] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:12] <phobos> kto pl
[17:12] <phobos> ??
[17:12] <Minataku> Since the old drive seemed okay, I put it into one of my older laptops and it's been fine since
[17:12] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: He's Polish
[17:12] <DaSkreech> mallize: Sure. Submit code
[17:12] <Eicca> how can I move my kubuntu from ext3 partition to another ext3 partition?
[17:13] <Minataku> Are they the same exact size?
[17:13] <Eicca> no
[17:13] <Eicca> the new one is bigger
[17:13] <phobos> jak zainstalowac postfix
[17:13] <Minataku> Then it's more complicated
[17:13] <mallize> it would have to be firefox code.. correct?
[17:13] <Minataku> !pl | phobos
[17:13] <ubotu> phobos: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:13] <Eicca> Minataku: well what would be the key to success?
[17:13] <phobos> mam takiego błeda
[17:13] <phobos> postfix: error: to submit mail, use the Postfix sendmail command
[17:13] <phobos> postfix: fatal: the postfix command is reserved for the superuser
[17:14] <Minataku> I think you could probably do well just copying everything over, but don't take my word for it
[17:14] <Eicca> uhoh okay
[17:14] <Minataku> phobos: This channel is ENGLISH ONLY. You have been directed... nevermind
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: copying everything over should be good, just make sure you modify your menu.lst
[17:15] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: /dev might give her some issue, as well
[17:15] <Eicca> im a guy btw
[17:15] <Minataku> I'm not sure how to handle it with udev
[17:15] <Minataku> Eicca: Sorry
[17:15] <Eicca> np :P
[17:15] <Minataku> Nickname seems female
[17:15] <Minataku> lol
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: hrm, I'd just give it a show, can't really ruin anything since you can just copy it back
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> *shot
[17:15] <Eicca> that ofcourse depends that where you come from, are you female?
[17:16] <Minataku> I'm not
[17:16] <Minataku> I'm using the nickname of a male anime character
[17:16] <Eicca> well your nick seems to me like a female :P
[17:16] <Eicca> okay
[17:16] <Minataku> Heh
[17:16] <Minataku> I know it seems female, though
[17:16] <Eicca> hehe
[17:16] <Minataku> But I never really cared XD
[17:16] <Eicca> me too, since everyones trying to flirt me
[17:16] <Minataku> It's easy enough to explain
[17:16] <Eicca> but yea, so just copypaste the whole partition should do it?
[17:17] <Minataku> Should do it, yeah
[17:17] <Minataku> Keep the old one in place JIC it doesn't work right
[17:17] <DaSkreech> !pl
[17:17] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:17] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Wow, you're lagged.
[17:19] <DaSkreech> yeah :(
[17:19] <van> hi, i have some trouble installing the java plugin for firefox someone could help me out?
[17:19] <DaSkreech> stupid proxy
[17:20] <Eicca> hmm
[17:20] <Dr_willis> 'copypaste the whole partition' --- SOUNDS scary to me.. :)
[17:20] <Eicca> I'm thinking of just buying a new hard drive since this is so hard
[17:20] <Minataku> Heh
[17:20] <DaSkreech> van: What problems?
[17:20] <Eicca> I could just add every damn partition I want to the new one :D
[17:20] <Minataku> It's not that hard, really
[17:20] <van> Minataku
[17:20] <van> it bring me to a java website plugin
[17:20] <van> and when i download the file its a .bin
[17:21] <van> i dont know how to installed it, i am new in the KDE environnement
[17:21] <DaSkreech> !java | van
[17:21] <ubotu> van: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[17:21] <van> i use only shell before
[17:21] <Minataku> Go into the root of the currently mounted partition, then mount the other partition, then cp -R * /mnt/lalala
[17:21] <Minataku> Or whatever
[17:21] <Minataku> And just hope it doesn't recurse >.>
[17:21] <Minataku> Hm
[17:21] <Minataku> Maybe it's a little harder than I thought >.>
[17:21] <van> ....
[17:21] <Minataku> Do it from a LiveCD instead
[17:22] <van> how do you install the java plugin in firefox? O_O
[17:22] <van> why mounting...
[17:22] <Minataku> This way you can mount both and copy without having to worry about infinite recursion
[17:22] <Minataku> van: I'm not talking to you
[17:22] <DaSkreech> van: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[17:22] <stdin> van: read what ubotu said
[17:22] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install whatever-that-jacva-package-is
[17:22] <van> oh ok
[17:22] <Minataku> lol
[17:22] <Eicca> what is the command to copy everything from partition to another?
[17:22] <Dr_willis> van,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras     SHOULD grab java and other extras
[17:22] <jpatrick> van: see section ten on that page
[17:22] <Minataku> Eicca: You'd be best off doing it from a LiveCD
[17:23] <Eicca> argh
[17:23] <Minataku> Then mount both partitions somewhere, and "cp -R /mnt/hda1/* /mnt/hda2/*"
[17:23] <Minataku> Where you replace the paths with the mountpoints
[17:23] <Eicca> okay
[17:23] <Eicca> hmm
[17:23] <Eicca> I'll do that then
[17:23] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Missed it what is Eicca trying to do?
[17:23] <Minataku> Copy the install from one partition to another
[17:23] <Dr_willis> actually with soft/hardlinks isent there a bit more to it? what bout /dev entrys.. and  othe things.. :)
[17:24] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i stop frostwire it froze
[17:24] <DaSkreech> So copy / ?
[17:24] <Minataku> Links should copy properly
[17:24] <DaSkreech> Jay-Oh-En: alt+ctrl+Esc
[17:24] <DaSkreech> Don't click on the desktop
[17:24] <Minataku> Dev entries won't be a problem the way I told her to do it
[17:24] <stdin> best to use "-a" rather than "-R"
[17:24] <Eicca> I have a bad feeling about this :DD
[17:24] <DaSkreech> Minataku: him
[17:24] <Minataku> Doh
[17:24] <Minataku> lol
[17:24] <DaSkreech> I did pick up on that :)
[17:24] <stdin> and /dev won't matter from a live cd
[17:24] <Minataku> It slipped my mind XD
[17:24] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[17:25] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks DaSkreech
[17:29] <originalv> jur alguien con ganas de ayudar?
[17:30] <Tm_T> !br | originalv
[17:30] <ubotu> originalv: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:30] <originalv> #ubuntu-es
[17:32] <DaSkreech> originalv: :)
[17:37] <Kachna> god dammit! anyone here has notebook like hp 6720?
[17:38]  * genii sips a coffee
[17:40] <Eicca> hmmmm
[17:40] <Eicca> this doesnt seem to go as planned
[17:40] <DaSkreech> !laptop | Kachna
[17:40] <ubotu> Kachna: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[17:41] <DaSkreech> Eicca: Live CD I assume?
[17:41] <Eicca> yea
[17:41] <Eicca> sudo cp -R /nakki/* /uus/
[17:42] <Eicca> mounted the current partition to nakki and the new thing to uus
[17:42] <Eicca> is the command correct_
[17:42] <Eicca> ?
[17:43] <DaSkreech> Eicca: yes
[17:43] <Eicca> *>
[17:43] <Eicca> and umm
[17:43] <Eicca> the booting must be edited
[17:43] <Eicca> I hope this works >(
[17:43] <Eicca> :)
[17:43] <DaSkreech> !grub | Eicca, Read up in the meantime it's a simple cahnge
[17:43] <Eicca> I know it already
[17:43] <ubotu> Eicca, Read up in the meantime it's a simple cahnge: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:44] <Eicca> Im just thinking that what should I do with the 5gb waste space..?
[17:44] <poison--> whats the safest way and procidure to change my gfx card?
[17:44] <poison--> i need to remove the one i have and put other model
[17:45] <stdin> poison--: remove it and insert the new one, then boot into recovery mode and run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[17:46] <DaSkreech> Eicca: cat /dev/random to a text file ?
[17:46] <Eicca> DaSkreech: what is that_
[17:46] <Eicca> ?
[17:46] <stdin> DaSkreech: dd would be much better
[17:47] <fredsfriend> hello?
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> hello fredsfriend
[17:47] <poison--> ty stdin
[17:48] <fredsfriend> can i ask questions here about mounting harddrives here?
[17:48] <Eicca> how much time can copying 3 gb from partition to another take.. -___-
[17:48] <poison--> 20 seconds here
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> !mount | fredsfriend
[17:49] <ubotu> fredsfriend: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[17:49] <fredsfriend> how fast does your harddrive spin?
[17:49] <Eicca> dunno
[17:49] <Eicca> last time it copied 15mb&s
[17:49] <Eicca> mb/s
[17:49] <poison--> brb
[17:49] <Eicca> after the cp command the Konsole wont change, so Im not sure is it ready yet
[17:50] <fredsfriend> thanks ubotu
[17:50] <Eicca> its a bot >(
[17:50] <Eicca> :)*
[17:51] <fredsfriend> pardon?
[17:51] <Eicca> ubotu is a bot
[17:51] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[17:52] <DaSkreech> Eicca: A way to fill up space with useless information :)
[17:52] <Eicca> :) yay it worked
[17:52] <Eicca> ill test it now
[17:52] <DaSkreech> Eicca:  :)
[17:53] <DaSkreech> You may have to switch grub to boot from the new partition
[17:53] <Eicca> yeye
[17:54] <Eicca> DaSkreech: If I create a new partition for grub, how can I tell to the system to boot from there?
[17:55] <Eicca> how come I cant delete the linux-swap partition?
[17:55] <jlarsson> how do i install/open a downloaded .run file?
[17:55] <stdin> jlarsson: what is the .run file for?
[17:55] <llutz> Eicca: it might be in use, sudo swapoff -a
[17:55] <jlarsson> ati drivers
[17:56] <stdin> jlarsson: why aren't you using the packages provided by ubuntu ?
[17:56] <jlarsson> because my ati graphics card lag when i play games
[17:56] <jlarsson> when i se other players in counterstrike, ive get 5fps
[17:57] <stdin> jlarsson: have you tried the ubuntu packages though?
[17:57] <stdin> !ati
[17:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:57] <jlarsson> stdin: Yes
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> I just formatted a USB HD partition to EXT3, I can mount it manually, but it's not showing up in system:/media/ in dolphin, any idea why?
[17:58] <stdin> jlarsson: the link ubotu gave will tell you how to install from the .run as well
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> the new ATI drivers are not worth the hassle
[18:00] <jlarsson> stdin: or can it be something elso spooking around, because when i se other people mo in counterstrike, my fps drops down to 5
[18:02] <carlos> hola
[18:02] <carlos> como cambio a la version en español?
[18:02] <stdin> !es
[18:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:02] <stdin> jlarsson: I don't know, I hardly ever have time to play games... and I have an intel chip so son't know about how well ati is
[18:03] <jlarsson> but how do i install a .run file?
[18:04] <DaSkreech> Eicca: grub takes a (hdn,n) format to point at the right partition
[18:04] <Niks> please help
[18:04] <Niks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122002&page=2
[18:04] <stdin> jlarsson: like I said, the link ubotu gave will tell you
[18:04] <Niks> dont solve my trable
[18:05] <Niks>  DHCP client does not seem to register hostname in DNS
[18:06] <jlarsson> stdin: yes but i didn't quite understand it
[18:23] <el> I have installed the touchpad in system settings, but when I change the speed of my touchpad, there is no change at all, does any one else have that problem, or a solution?? Cheers
[18:24] <mike> everytime i log in i get a message that says ksplashrc not writable
[18:24] <mike> i click ok and i can log in but its annoying
[18:24] <mike> how do i fix this
[18:26] <mike> time to see if chowning my username to the file helps
[18:26] <poison--> :D
[18:26] <mike> heh it worked
[18:30] <DaSkreech> mike:  :)
[18:33] <mike> lol
[18:33] <mike> solved my problem out loud
[18:35] <bazhang> haha
[18:36] <kawa> cia
[18:36] <kawa> ciao
[18:36] <talvik> how do i hide notifications in ksirc, so it only apears what people write?
[18:36] <DaSkreech> blessedbeef How are you?
[18:37] <ShawnRisk> I am running Kubuntu, and everytime I try to run the SVN version of CodeBlocks, it crashes for me.  I can run this, but as soon as this opens crashes, any ideas?
[18:37] <trappist> ShawnRisk: might have better luck talking to the CodeBlocks folks
[18:38] <ShawnRisk> I am in that room
[18:40] <DaSkreech> ShawnRisk: Also run it from the command line to see if it throws any obvious errors
[18:40] <ShawnRisk> okay
[18:41] <ShawnRisk> there is an error
[18:43] <ShawnRisk> (codeblocks:4109): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_realize_icon: assertion `info->icon_pixmap == NULL' failed
[18:45] <DaSkreech> It's looking for a image?
[18:45] <ShawnRisk> I am reading about this
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[18:49] <Dr_willis> i see that kind of message all the time.. Its like looking for some icon that aint there.. or somthing.. never seen that crash anything.
[18:50] <ShawnRisk> ;P
[18:57] <ShawnRisk> there are so many errors that come up
[18:57] <ShawnRisk> that no one has any ideas why
[19:00] <DaSkreech> maybe not use the SVN version?
[19:00] <ShawnRisk> there is no other version for my distro
[19:04] <peter_> can i improve fonts in kubuntu 6.10
[19:04] <ShawnRisk> which fonts?
[19:04] <trappist> peter_: google "font deuglification howto"
[19:04] <TimS> I am looking for a video player that has a plugin that will play stage 6 videos in the broswers rather than launching an external player.
[19:05] <d03boy> anyone know whre I can find a wireshark deb?
[19:05] <DaSkreech> !wireshark
[19:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:05] <DaSkreech> Liar :-P
[19:05] <DaSkreech> !info wireshark | d03boy
[19:06] <ubotu> d03boy: wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[19:06] <ShawnRisk> TimS: You need Divx Player
[19:06] <d03boy> mi still on dapper
[19:08] <d03boy> maybe i need ethereal instead
[19:12] <DaSkreech> !info ethereal dapper | d03boy
[19:12] <ubotu> d03boy: ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[19:19] <sigma> does anyone here know alot about adblock in konqueror?
[19:21] <ShawnRisk> what is the question?
[19:23] <poison--> is there any app to check my h drive
[19:23] <poison--> health..
[19:23] <poison--> seems its quite dead
[19:23] <tafsen> How can I enter the katapult config?
[19:24] <sigma> how do i change the placeholder image in adblock?
[19:25] <sigma> tafsen: what do u use katapult for?
[19:28] <tafsen> sigma: Everything. Change songs in amaroK, open a folder, start programs, easy math
[19:29] <sigma> when i click on katapult i just see a splash screen and nothing else, how does it work?
[19:29] <tafsen> sigma: Do you know how I can get the to config panel when the icon is not showing on the tray icon?
[19:30] <tafsen> sigma: You type the name of the program you want to start
[19:30] <tafsen> or the song you want to change to
[19:30] <DaSkreech> !katapult
[19:30] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[19:31] <DaSkreech> tafsen: alt+space -> Ctrl+C
[19:32] <sigma> i see
[19:32] <tafsen> Do you have to install an extra compiz package to get it to work with KDE?
[19:32] <Xcell> Simple run command
[19:33] <sigma> compiz-kde
[19:33] <maxidesqac> I have a problem!!!
[19:33] <peter_> why is the firefox greyed out in adept installer...
[19:34] <maxidesqac>   I just install kubuntu
[19:34] <maxidesqac> But when there is an error update
[19:34] <sigma> no clue, i just got it from packages.ubuntu.com
[19:35] <maxidesqac> I need help
[19:35] <Xcell> Ask.
[19:35] <maxidesqac> I just install Kubuntu
[19:35] <maxidesqac> But there is a problem with iadept installer
[19:35] <maxidesqac> IN the update
[19:36] <maxidesqac> sorry if you can understand me, i speak spanish
[19:36] <Xcell>  does it stop half way?
[19:36] <maxidesqac> yes
[19:36] <DaSkreech> !es
[19:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:36] <peter_> sigma: yes, in what catergory is it?
[19:37] <maxidesqac> Thanks
[19:37] <LimCore> anyone here have amd64 ubuntu 7.10 please?  I want to try one quick thing:   (as root) touch ./asdf.img && losetup  /dev/loop -e aes-256 ./asdf.img     input any long text like asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfadsfasdfdasf  and did it worked or reported kernel error?
[19:37] <sigma> peter: just type firefox into the search script on the frontpage
[19:37] <tafsen> sigma: Does compiz start automatic at every boot after I installed that package?
[19:38] <peter_> pff i need to check which packages i have installed etc.?
[19:38] <sigma> tafsen: nope, look at the community docs - theres a script to include
[19:38] <peter_> i thought linux had apt and all that
[19:38] <peter_> why is in adept firefox grey
[19:40] <tafsen> sigma: The wiki?
[19:41] <sigma> tafsen: http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[19:42] <sigma> where is konqueror installed to in kubuntu? im looking for the adblock plugin files
[19:42] <Youness> you mast intal mozila
[19:42] <tafsen> sigma: Weird. Searching for kde+compiz doesn't give anything
[19:43] <sigma> tafsen: just search "compiz", click on the compiz-fusion link
[19:44] <DaSkreech> peter_: Which Adept?
[19:44] <DaSkreech> sigma: type which konqueror
[19:45] <Youness> flash plaaayer thas'nt work on konqeuror
[19:45] <Youness> so you wel
[19:45] <van> is there any program tat is simular to WPE in windows under Kubuntu?
[19:46] <sigma> daskreech: what do u mean?
[19:47] <tafsen> Why does kde use emerald, but not gnome?
[19:48] <sigma> tafsen: u dont have to use emerald
[19:48] <tafsen> sigma: What's the difrence?
[19:49] <sigma> its just said to work better with gnome
[19:49] <sigma> its another window manager
[19:49] <sigma> has better effects than kwin apparently
[19:54] <DaSkreech> van: What's WPE?
[19:55] <MilitantPotato> !backup
[19:55] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[19:56] <flyx> ciao a tutti
[19:56] <flyx> hi to everyone!
[19:57] <van_> DaSkreech: Winsock Packet editor
[19:58] <DavidW2> I'm trying to add a new printer in kcontrol through the Add Printer Wizard. It's only showing the CMB backend and all of the others are greyed out. I would like to add an IPP printer.
[20:00] <DaSkreech> van_: You want to edit Winsock?
[20:00] <DaSkreech> peter_: which adept are you using?
[20:01] <DaSkreech> !hi | flyx
[20:01] <ubotu> flyx: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:01] <rpedro> !amarok2
[20:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:03] <flyx> where i can found a good source.list for my kubuntu???
[20:04] <DaSkreech> !easysource | flyx
[20:04] <ubotu> flyx: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:04] <bazhang> that site is awesome
[20:05] <flyx> thanks ;)
[20:06] <flyx> this source.list generator is good also for kubuntu?
[20:06] <ScorpKing> yes
[20:06] <qolo> bitches
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> re
[20:06] <flyx> great thanks again
[20:07] <ScorpKing> !wtf > qolo
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> guys, I know ssh supports X forwarding, but... is there a way I can connect to an XServer with a KDE/GNOME session already running on it? i.e. not starting a new session, but "taking over" an old one?
[20:09] <DaSkreech> DMCP I think
[20:09] <DaSkreech> or XDMCP
[20:09] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: yes in otherwords :)
[20:11] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: rysiek@mybox:~$ echo XDMCP > google ;)
[20:11] <DaSkreech> :-)
[20:16] <Vov4ik_> hello
[20:16] <zvezdichko> I can't install realplayer. it gives me ./RealPlayer10GOLD-Linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:17] <Vov4ik_> when aim' trying to install drivers of my UPS, i get that error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/zerog/lax/LAX
[20:17] <stdin> zvezdichko: you have to install libstdc++5 then
[20:19] <zvezdichko> thanks, it worked
[20:20] <Xcell> I have a question: Is real player as intrusive on linux as it is on windows?
[20:20] <trappist> Xcell: mp
[20:20] <trappist> err, no
[20:20] <Xcell> How was that bypassed?
[20:21] <trappist> Xcell: it's intrusive on windows because it takes over control of a bunch of mime types, installs an autostarting system service, etc.  It just doesn't do that on linux.
[20:21] <Xcell> ok thanks..i was worried.
[20:22] <Xcell> Is it worth having?
[20:25] <DaSkreech> !real | zvezdichko
[20:25] <ubotu> zvezdichko: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:27] <jrjx> In "konversation" or any other IRC program, you know when you do a /whois and it says "xyzzy is username@host"?  Is there any way to configure it to display "xyzzy is someoneelse@someplaceelse", or even "xyzzy is someoneelse@host", instead?
[20:28] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: from what I've read on the net it does not seem like XDMCP is able to "hijack" an already running X session
[20:28] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: am I wrong?
[20:28] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: Woah Wait what are you trying t o do?
[20:29] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: I have a machine at work, running kubuntu 7.10. it was a 7.04, but I started the upgrade and left
[20:29] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: now, the update *should* be finished by now
[20:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> jrjx: the someoneelse@someplaceelse would require spoofing, which most places frown upon, or even offer their own virtual hosts.  the someoneelse@host just needs an ident daemon (oidentd is a good one), though i've never set it up, personally
[20:30] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: thought I could connect to the machine - somehow "hijack" the X server session so that I can control the apps already running (i.e. update manager), finish the job and halt the machine
[20:31] <zvezdichko> Also, OpenArena crashes on my box... It's not the thing however which crashes, but kwin...
[20:31] <jrjx> Hmmm.  I'm using konversation, an older one since I'm running an older version of Kubuntu, and I thought I had this (well, another) identity set to display a different identd name.
[20:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> if you don't have an ident daemon running, it won't work.
[20:32] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: Oh yes yo ucan
[20:33] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: But that has to be pre-setup
[20:33] <zvezdichko> redirecting to the right channel
[20:33] <DaSkreech> VNC or openNX can do that
[20:33] <trpr> i just installed nas and nas-bin. does anyone know if there is more required in setting this up? my qt app still tells me the soundsystem is unavailable, although i can play files with auplay.
[20:33] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: sed 's/great/darn/'
[20:33] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: yeah, I know vnc
[20:33] <DaSkreech> jrjx: sure you can but you have to run your own IRC server :-)
[20:33] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: I can run it even now, and take over the desktop
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: but thought I could use the XServer itself for that
[20:34] <DaSkreech> jrjx: It's just spitting back what the server is telling it
[20:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> windows clients such as mirc have their own ident server, konversation uses a system-wide one for linux.
[20:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> !oidentd
[20:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oidentd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> !find ident
[20:34] <ubotu> Found: libident, libident-dev, libkpimidentities1, xserver-xorg-video-trident, bidentd (and 15 others)
[20:34] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: No the process is owned by the person who started it. It may be possible but X is notorious for spitting in your face and planningt the overthrow of your seed if you start messing with it
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> ok
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> I'll leave it till tomorrow, then :_
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> :)
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: thanks
[20:35] <DaSkreech> Stupid complex archetict
[20:35] <Iggz> Hi all
[20:35] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: #xorg
[20:36] <Iggz> I have just installed KDE - moving from Gnome - can anyone tell me where - if they exist - are the advanced appearance options in KDE? I.e thus that control CUBE, etc
[20:39] <zvezdichko> Iggz: are you talking about compiz/beryl?
[20:40] <Iggz> zvez - I believe that is it yes - sorry new to linux - well, its been many years and its changed a lot
[20:41] <zvezdichko> Iggz: well, if you are talking about 3d desktop- so it's compiz and beryl
[20:41] <ubuntu> I'm just installing Kubuntu but have already got windows XPon the harddisk.I remember somewhere that windows needs to be the first aprtition.Is thiscorrect?
[20:41] <Iggz> Yep, thats the one. Is it avaiable in KDE also? And if so, how to I access those settings ? :)
[20:42] <youness> thas is cool
[20:42] <youness> dont delt it
[20:42] <youness> i thinqiiie you ned it
[20:42] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: No but it really likes it
[20:43] <Daisuke-Laptop> youness: i'm not *entirely* sure, but i think you need a new keyboard
[20:44] <Vov4ik_> Who installed driver for Mustek? i need help x(
[20:44] <DaSkreech> lggz: It's the same as gnome
[20:44] <zvezdichko> Iggz: I haven't tried it (I have an integrated Intel Express Video Chipset), but I suppose it should be "sudo apt-get install compiz" in the command line
[20:44] <DaSkreech> same program
[20:44] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[20:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:45] <youness> yes is so fast my keybord
[20:45] <youness> :)
[20:45] <Vov4ik_> Who installed driver for Mustek? i need help x(
[20:45] <Vov4ik_> UPS
[20:46] <Iggz> Thamks zvez :-)
[20:46] <youness> use kooka fo scanner
[20:47] <zvezdichko> Iggz: it's a window manager. however, I'm not sure how to make it work with KDE and how to replace kwin. If somebody know how, please, tell us.
[20:48] <youness> what is the command for chang the colore on IRC i type   bath thas'nt work
[20:48] <ardchoille> zvezdichko: I think you can use the window manager binary like this:  binary_name --replace
[20:49] <youness> .
[20:49] <youness>  test
[20:49] <wolv> I'm trying to install freetype, but the repository isn't available on Gutsy.  does anyone know the repository information?
[20:50] <tekteen> !info freetype
[20:50] <ubotu> Package freetype does not exist in gutsy
[20:50] <youness>  test
[20:50] <youness> test
[20:50] <stdin> youness: yes, we can see you
[20:50] <ardchoille> wolv: apt-cache search --names-only freetype
[20:51] <ScorpKing> !test | youness
[20:51] <ubotu> youness: Failed.
[20:51] <ScorpKing> :D
[20:51] <tekteen> :-)
[20:51] <ScorpKing> !dolphin > ScorpKing
[20:52] <wolv> lol:
[20:52] <wolv> eric@vaio:~/openmotif-2.3.0$ wolv: apt-cache search --names-only freetype
[20:52] <wolv> bash: wolv:: command not found
[20:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> uh, yeah
[20:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> you remove that part
[20:52] <wolv> I know it, i just thought it was funny
[20:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> he used *your nick* to indicate that the message was *to you* :)
[20:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> okay
[20:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> normally when someone does that, they are actually trying to figure out why it didn't work :)
[20:53] <jrjx> What's the usual signal you send a running program to tell it to re-read its startup config file?
[20:53] <youness>  youness
[20:53] <youness> oh
[20:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> and i normally don't have the heart to tell them
[20:53] <tekteen> jrjx: u restart it
[20:53] <ScorpKing> ah. beloved konqueror is back. :)
[20:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> youness: don't test your client in here, this isn't the place.
[20:54] <youness> i want change colors on IRC X (
[20:54] <Daisuke-Laptop> this isn't the place for that either.
[20:54] <youness> tnx  :)
[20:54] <tekteen> jrjx: did u see my post above ^
[20:54] <Daisuke-Laptop> on another network, another channel, sure, but colours are distracting and generally frowned upon
[20:55] <stdin> colours don't work here anyway
[20:55] <stdin> we're +c
[20:55] <ScorpKing> *** Channel modes: topic protection, no messages from outside, no colors allowed, L, z, f
[20:55] <ardchoille> Daisuke-Laptop: I don't think you can do colours in this channel anyway due to channel mode +c
[20:55] <Daisuke-Laptop> ardchoille: that's why i said this isn't the place :D
[20:55] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[20:56] <Iggz> Zvez: thanks again. Sorry for the slow reply was in #compiz.fusion trying to get an answer - no joy though :/
[20:56] <youness> respect Daisuke-Laptop
[20:57] <zvezdichko> Iggz: did you install it?
[20:58] <zvezdichko> and no joy for what? for my chipset?
[20:58] <jrjx> Tekteen: Ummm...  I have the understanding that, for at least _some_ server programs, you don't have to kill and restart them to get them to reread their config file, but instead you can send them a specific signal.  Are you saying I'm mistaken by this?
[20:59] <tekteen> jrjx: I will look it up
[20:59] <stdin> jrjx: it's sighup
[20:59] <sorin> hi
[20:59] <tekteen> stdin: thanks
[20:59] <jrjx> That's what I _thought_, but I wanted to doublecheck.
[21:00] <jrjx> Lemme try a HUP.
[21:01] <t3ch13> Wow what a difference a new laptop makes with a Nvida graphics card for Compiz-Fusion
[21:01] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a wee bit off-topic question: any suggestions on what font might it be? http://rysiek.ath.cx/~mike/justyna/orkiestra/gfx/ikar_big_1.png
[21:02] <Eicca> help! I reinstalled kubuntu and turned the splash screen off and now KDE wont start, what should I do?
[21:02] <DaSkreech> Eicca: look at Xerrors?
[21:02] <Eicca> wut?
[21:02] <DaSkreech> or ~/.xsession-errors
[21:02] <Eicca> umm
[21:03] <Eicca> how can I open the KDE now?
[21:03] <Eicca> or x
[21:03] <Eicca> argh
[21:03] <DaSkreech> Eicca: You are on the command line?
[21:03] <Eicca> yea :D
[21:03] <shampoonator> hi, i got a little problem: my applikations like matlab and amsn have so damns mall fonts, that i cant see anything (not only fonts, it seems all small somehow) anyone any idea?
[21:03] <Eicca> I dont like this
[21:03] <DaSkreech> Eicca: ok new terminal and type startx
[21:03] <Eicca> ok
[21:03] <ubuntu> ciaooo
[21:04] <youness> aplication .exe dont work in the kde
[21:04] <youness> shampoonator
[21:05] <shampoonator> youness, ehat do you mean?
[21:05] <shampoonator> youness, what do you  mean?
[21:05] <tekteen> youness: do u need help
[21:05] <tekteen> ?
[21:06] <fucter>  ROLLCALL - bitbyte bitbyte` destroyer doubleu ensane faithless fatigued FlopSter FlopSter- fucter icmp Kash list maxima neutral nsts p1mp pandm Paramount pendulus rusty_ security sethstorm skylined statsbot- statsboy statsgirl stutter stutter- torti--
[21:06] <youness> you mast serch aplicatioon for linux
[21:06] <youness> tekteen want instal matlab on linux
[21:06] <shampoonator> ... amsn and matlab is linux binary lol
[21:07] <ardchoille> !info matlab
[21:07] <ubotu> Package matlab does not exist in gutsy
[21:07] <tekteen> youness: u have a linux binary?
[21:07] <DaSkreech> stdin: Wat was that about?
[21:07] <shampoonator> *sigh
[21:07] <youness> Kubuntu
[21:08] <shampoonator> so i guess amsn and matlab are both qt appications
[21:08] <shampoonator> ... it does not only depend on the fontsize.. i tried switch to a higher font size... but did not work..
[21:08] <stdin> DaSkreech: some bot/troll (didn't respond to /msg so not sure)
[21:11] <t3ch13> If I run compiz using f2 then compiz will it autostart from here on?
[21:11] <stdin> t3ch13: no, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[21:12] <shampoonator> no idea anyone :(
[21:12] <shampoonator> i cant use matlab because i cant read the buttons *crys*
[21:14] <Iggz> zvezdichko: Sorry, to many chats open - attempting it now
[21:15] <zvezdichko> Iggz: is it your first try?
[21:15] <zvezdichko> to install linux?
[21:22] <ninjagambit> I have done everything that
[21:22] <ninjagambit> !64bit
[21:22] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[21:23] <ninjagambit> !flash64
[21:23] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[21:23] <ninjagambit> said to do
[21:23] <ninjagambit> still not working
[21:26] <zvezdichko> !dualcore
[21:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualcore - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <zvezdichko> tfuh!
[21:28] <t3ch13> Now I can't be told that my crappy ATI card can't do Compiz because I now have a Laptop with a Nvidia GeForce 8400M lol
[21:28] <lavacano201014> am i on the winning or losing end of the netsplit?
[21:29] <t3ch13> Hmm winning
[21:29] <lavacano201014> thank god.
[21:29] <zvezdichko> t3ch13: ATI is always problematic
[21:29] <BluesKaj> don't thik there's winners and losers
[21:29] <lavacano201014> there are losers. the servers that split off
[21:32] <ninjagambit> tar -zxf firefox-2.0.0.7.tar.gz
[21:32] <ninjagambit> sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox32
[21:32] <ninjagambit> mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/local/firefox32/firefox' with directory `firefox'
[21:33] <ninjagambit> exept i changed that 7 to a 10
[21:34] <abyssion> hi
[21:34] <abyssion> you speak french ?
[21:35] <ninjagambit> no
[21:35] <ninjagambit> i speed country
[21:35] <continentaltest>  i have a problem printing ... installed latest vbox package under the latest Kubuntu distro, and started a WinXP sp1 VM for a little more testing (trying to completely get away of MS Windoze, sans a few legacy apps).  Never before now have I had to print from within the WinXP VM.  Its gotta be simple, but I must have missed something. The parent Kubuntu install has network printers available to it.  The WinXP has the approp
[21:35] <ninjagambit> speek
[21:36] <ninjagambit> speak
[21:36] <ninjagambit> and i can't type
[21:36] <stdin> !fr | abyssion
[21:36] <ubotu> abyssion: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:36] <abyssion> iam banned from #kubuntu-fr
[21:36] <stdin> then try #ubuntu-fr
[21:36] <abyssion> not help
[21:36] <abyssion> iam in Kubuntu
[21:37] <Tm_T> abyssion: Kubuntu is Ubuntu
[21:38] <abyssion> i know
[21:38] <unix_infidel> maybe you should try not engaging in bannable activity.
[21:38] <hdevalence> hey, I accidentally di export PATH=/home/harry/bin instead of PATH=$PATH:/home/harry/bin
[21:38] <hdevalence> how do I set it back?
[21:38] <Tm_T> unix_infidel: thank you
[21:38] <abyssion> the chanel Compiz is ?
[21:38] <Tm_T> !compiz | abyssion
[21:38] <ubotu> abyssion: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:38] <abyssion> i dont know
[21:39] <unix_infidel> hdevalence: you can export PATH within your bash_profile
[21:39] <abyssion> thank's
[21:40] <unix_infidel> just source ~/.bash_profile when you're done.
[21:40] <Eicca> Umm.. what's wrong when I try to start adept and it says that "another package software is already running" etc, but there is no another packaging softwares running?
[21:40] <Tm_T> !adeptfix
[21:40] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:40] <nerv203> Does anyone know of an application I can use to create virtual drives for mounting .iso's?
[21:41] <Eicca> Tm_T: ty
[21:41] <unix_infidel> nerv203: mount -o
[21:41] <stdin> !iso | nerv203
[21:41] <ubotu> nerv203: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:41] <unix_infidel> that's a handy little bot.
[21:41] <Eicca> oh yea I understood my problem
[21:42] <Eicca> the java installation crashed and bugged adept
[21:42] <Eicca> thanks alot again guys! :)
[21:42] <omen> hei! Could anyone please help: how can I change curent locale in console?
[21:42] <hdevalence> unix_infidel: I don't know exactly what it was before, though. that's the problem. other than /bin , /sbin , /usr/bin , /usr/lib/kde3/bin , /usr/lib/kde4/bin , are there any other various directories I need?
[21:42] <shampoonator> is compiz running stable?
[21:43] <shampoonator> wenn i tried it last time i had problem with firefox and other applications.. the windows didnt close anymore
[21:43] <omen> e.g. to KOI8
[21:43] <hdevalence> oh nvm
[21:43] <andrewmin> just curious, does anyone know if kget has a maintainor?
[21:44] <nerv203> I don't need to burn the ISO though.
[21:44] <stdin> nerv203: who said anything about burning, ubotu told you how to mount an ISO
[21:45] <jpatrick> andrewmin: should be in Help -> About KGet
[21:45] <hdevalence> nerv203: it's a generic message
[21:45] <andrewmin> k thanks
[21:45] <nerv203> Ah ok, I midunderstood it
[21:45] <hdevalence> nerv203: you should probably md5 before mounting, too.
[21:46] <Eicca> I am trying to open a .part1.rar and part2 files with Ark but it just says "an error has been encountered while opening".. what should I do?
[21:47] <nerv203> I feel like such a noob, but what is the mountpoint?
[21:48] <Eicca> I know what it is but I dont know how to explain it and that is not a noob question :P
[21:49] <nerv203> tell me what format I would write it in, and I can probably figure it out. Is it a Directory of some kind?
[21:49] <Eicca> please answer to my question :/
[21:49] <nerv203> ooc I wonder if the bot has anything on it. How do you make the bot talk?
[21:49] <Eicca> umm
[21:50] <Eicca> maybe !
[21:50] <Eicca> !yo
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:50] <Eicca> !mountpoint
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpoint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:50] <trpr> instead of having various drives (C, D), all drives are connected to the root filesystem (/) via a mount point. the device's filetree is appended to the root filetree at the mountpoint
[21:50] <Eicca> !mounting
[21:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:50] <Sanne> nerv203: you can message the bot: /msg ubotu myquestion
[21:50] <nerv203> That went right over my head, trpr
[21:51] <nerv203> sorry ^^
[21:51] <stdin> nerv203: a mountpoint is the point at which you want it to mount, basically any (normally empty) directory
[21:51] <nerv203> Ah ok, thanks. I had thought it was something like that, but was afraid of breaking something.
[21:52] <Eicca> I am trying to open a .part1.rar and part2 files with Ark but it just says "an error has been encountered while opening".. what should I do?
[21:52] <trpr> nerv203: probably more than you wanted to know about it -> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html
[21:57] <GH0> Hello, I have a bit of a problem. I have been trying to load Kubuntu LiveCD and each time it loads I can see the normal graphical menu, so I press enter to load. Well it comes up with [0.000000] ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP. However when I turn ACPI off it doesn't do anything at all loads the kernel and stalls at a black screen.
[21:58] <GH0> Any help would be appreciated.
[21:59] <ardchoille> Eicca: Did you install rar support?
[21:59] <ardchoille> !rar | Eicca
[21:59] <ubotu> Eicca: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[22:03] <Eicca> ardchoille: yea already got help, still thanks :)
[22:04] <ardchoille> Eicca: ok
[22:24] <GH0> Hello, I have a bit of a problem. I have been trying to load Kubuntu LiveCD and each time it loads I can see the normal graphical menu, so I press enter to load. Well it comes up with [0.000000] ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP. However when I turn ACPI off it doesn't do anything at all loads the kernel and stalls at a black screen.
[22:24] <GH0> Any help would be appreciated.
[22:29] <Zvezdichko`sleep> I can't get the subtitles working in mplayer
[22:29] <Zvezdichko`sleep> however, they work in caffeine
[22:29] <Zvezdichko`sleep> where is the font "Sans" located?
[22:33] <gabriel_> how can i check CRC with a svf file?
[22:37] <hazar> hello
[22:37] <hazar> I've some questions about dansguardian.
[22:37] <bjwebb> hi
[22:37] <bjwebb> might i need to be root to create dvds
[22:38] <hazar> I dont think
[22:38] <hazar> k3b works well
[22:38] <bjwebb> hmm, im wondering if its a problem with drivers
[22:38] <bjwebb> its a comined CD/DVD reader and writer
[22:39] <bjwebb> ive reader CDs & DVDs but ive only been able to write CDs
[22:41] <hazar> I cannot open gmail.com with dansguardian proxy..
[22:41] <hazar> Is there any known bug about this?
[22:41] <hazar> or anything I can do to fix this problem?
[22:43] <bjwebb> grr
[22:43] <bjwebb> my compiz keeps freezing on me
[22:43] <bjwebb> when its been fine for over a month
[22:43] <bjwebb> :S
[22:44] <Thylio> What is the command for installing rpm packages?
[22:45] <bjwebb> alien?
[22:45] <cliff_> yep, alien.
[22:46] <bjwebb> could changing the number of colors in xorg.conf make compiz more freezy
[22:46] <Thylio> kk tax
[22:48] <mkhouse> hello
[22:52] <Eicca> how come clicking on this item wont open the wow.exe? http://i.servut.us/i/snapshot1.png
[22:52] <Eicca> it opens fine when I go to the folder and click it..
[22:53] <bjwebb> Eicca: the '' only go around the path
[22:53] <bjwebb> not wine
[22:53] <bjwebb> so
[22:53] <bjwebb> wine '/home/eicca/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe'
[22:56] <TimS> Whaa. Swiftfox updated and now uses Firefox 3.0. All my plugins fail
[22:56] <rysiek|pl> guys, I have downloaded some *.tf files with fonts, any ideas where should I place them?
[22:57] <Eicca> Thank you bjwebb! :)
[22:59] <rysiek|pl> TimS: is swiftfox considerably faster than regular ff buold?
[22:59] <rysiek|pl> *build
[22:59] <TimS> I would say yes
[22:59] <TimS> I can see the difference in startup times
[22:59] <bascule> the startup is slow in kde
[23:00] <bascule> on regular ff that is
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> truw
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> *true
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> that's why my ff just keeps on running
[23:00] <bascule> no massive ram usage?
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> oh, I would *love* a Firefox Qt build...
[23:00] <TimS> Try out swift fox, starts in under a second here
[23:00] <rysiek|pl> bascule: ~100 - ~200MiB
[23:00] <Thylio> do i need a program to install deb packages? or go i just dpkg?
[23:01] <rysiek|pl> Thylio: dpkg
[23:01] <TimS> Thylio: You can use the gui build in with Kubuntu if you want.
[23:01] <rysiek|pl> Thylio: *deb packages are native on *buntu
[23:01] <Thylio> kk.
[23:01] <Thylio> can i open them in adept?
[23:02] <AmyRose> Why does Strigi keep hogging CPU time like crazy 24/7?
[23:02] <AmyRose> it also causes things to slow down with all its hard drive accesses
[23:03] <TimS> Strigi sucks.
[23:03] <Thylio> how do i uninstall erlyer packages
[23:04] <TimS> From adept
[23:04] <rysiek|pl> Thylio: open "Add/remove programs"
[23:04] <TimS> Strigi only has a web interface. How crap
[23:05] <Thylio> it's not there... it's not a programm "cedega-small-6.0.2.i386"
[23:05] <hydrogen> it has a real ui in kde4
[23:05] <bascule> AmyRose: it calms down after it first indexes all the stuff
[23:06] <bascule> but it sucks anyway, for now
[23:06] <hydrogen> yes
[23:06] <hydrogen> all them search programs are pretty not that useful
[23:08] <AmyRose> bascule: It seems to take forever, LITERALLY
[23:08] <bascule> :)
[23:08] <AmyRose> as in I had it running 2 days straight and it never calmed down
[23:08] <bascule> that's a mighty long time
[23:08]  * bascule disabled it quite quickly
[23:09] <AmyRose> How do you disable it without removing kubuntu-desktop?
[23:09] <bascule> I think I told is in some config to go away
[23:10] <rysiek|pl> hydrogen: updatedb/locate are the only useful imho
[23:11] <AmyRose> bascule: I got the stupid thing disabled once somehow--the config file was corrupt in such a way that it kept SIGABRTing strigidaemon
[23:14] <hydrogen> !strigi
[23:14] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[23:14] <hydrogen> thats not helpful ubotu..
[23:14] <hydrogen> you're supposed to have info on how to disable it
[23:15] <bascule> it's possible that I killed it and saved the session so it doesn't start at kde login
[23:15] <bascule> i really can't remember
[23:16] <rysiek|pl> hydrogen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/148054
[23:17] <bascule> apt-get remove strigi-daemon
[23:17] <bascule> AmyRose: ^
[23:20] <teknoprep> hey all
[23:20] <teknoprep> i updated and now ubuntu won't hibernate
[23:20] <teknoprep> anyone else experience this problem before?
[23:20] <BluesKaj> one can also use the add-remove programs utility in the kmenu
[23:28] <draik> Hello all
[23:29] <the-erm> hi
[23:29] <draik> Hello the-erm
[23:29] <draik> Well, this is pretty quiet.
[23:31] <teknoprep> much quieter then ubuntu
[23:31] <teknoprep> too many ppl in that channel
[23:31] <the-erm> Well I got a crazy question.
[23:32] <the-erm> I have 2 keyboards.
[23:32] <the-erm> 1 is a remote, but it's basically a keyboard.
[23:32] <the-erm> I was wondering if it's even possible to set up something like xmodmap on a per keyboard basis.
[23:33] <the-erm> So if I pressed 1 on the remote win+1 would actually be pressed.
[23:34] <the-erm> Shoot even something like xev could do it ...
[23:36] <the-erm> ... hmm maybe I should look for a keyboard logger :)
[23:36] <the-erm> that prints to stdout, and gives you the device info at the same time.
[23:41] <polo2> sources.list.save is the backup of original sources?
[23:41] <draik> sources.list.bak
[23:42] <draik> No, wait
[23:42] <draik> sources.list~
[23:42] <draik> I named it with .bak
[23:44] <draik> Isn't Kubuntu supposed to be auto-detect when it comes to monitors?
[23:47] <draik> My friend's monitor is both TV and computer monitor. For some reason, it won't work on the tv/monitor. It is set to Monitor, but nothing displays.
[23:47] <draik> Anyone got a clue as to where I should start?
[23:54] <BluesKaj> draik, maybe the monitor circuit has a different input
[23:55] <draik> BluesKaj: It has worked in the past. I took it home with me, worked on it, gave it back to him and nothing.
[23:56] <BluesKaj> what is his setup is he running the TV input off a pc capture card ?
[23:56] <BluesKaj> capture=tvtuner card