=== bluekuja_ is now known as bluekuja [18:55] can someone help me i'm in a real bind for time. I am trying to print a pdf in gutsy to send to someone so they can print it off but when i print it as a pdf it puts the margins wrong so when they print it it cuts off parts of the page.... [18:56] What are you printing it in? [18:57] HedgeMage, just one of our form programs we use... xournal [18:59] barbara_: oh, so it's a problem with pdf generation, not printing the pdf? [18:59] right [19:00] I don't know xournal, but something I often see is the paper size option set wrong -- for example on A4 when you want US letter [19:00] HedgeMage, how do i set that for the pdf printer? [19:01] it should be in xournal's options somewhere -- I've never used xournal [19:02] HedgeMage, looking at the program and it is set to US Letter [19:04] barbara_: I have no clue then, sorry [19:04] maybe it's the paper sizing in the pdf printer.. [19:04] doesn't cups have it's own pdf printer? [19:14] johnny, i'm using the cups pdf printer and it's screwing up my margins... [19:15] the same that that the internal pdf exporter does? [19:16] you can export to pdf and then open it up in evince and then print it? [19:16] well evince isn't even printing for me right now so i'm using xournal to try to print it. [19:16] if evince isn't printing, you have other problems [19:17] can you print from gedit? [19:17] it's weird i had to export it as a pdf then i printed from xournal which fixed my margins then i scanned it in using gscan2pdf and that fixed it... [19:21] well if you can't print from evince, you should get that looked into at some point [19:21] i just know that it prints for me [19:21] yeah this ltsp thing is just crazy buggy [19:21] works fine ootb at my other location [19:35] johnny, I went in and modified the PDF.ppd file for cups pdf the imagable area was wrong. However this still didn't fix it... do you know if there is another ppf that I need to modify? [19:36] no idea [19:36] i've never used any of these programs you're speaking of [19:36] you might want to check the bug list === juliux_ is now known as juliux [20:16] HedgeMage and johnny thx for the help I figured it out! it was the PDF.ppd file by default has the wrong paper margins for US_Letter. compared to my other printer and it works great now [21:20] anybody here build packages for ubuntu? [22:16] hi [22:17] I want to setup an entire school network using Edubuntu [22:17] the idea is to have Thin Clients using LTSP, but I also have Fat Clients for the teachers and more load intensive works [22:17] how do I best sync users? [22:18] maybe some centralized authentification? [22:20] i am only starting with edubuntu too but my idea would be: use a central ldap server for storing the user information [22:20] hmm [22:20] that was my first idea too [22:20] but I want something very easially manageable [22:21] and maybe also set permissions etc. [22:21] we need to have class folders [22:22] http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LDAP_Client_Authentifizierung <<< a quick research. i don't know, how usable this is. [22:22] that could be done via nfs and group settings imo. though again i believe that ldap would help. [22:23] hmm [22:23] my idea was to have a shared /home via nfs [22:23] and then maybe kerebros? [22:24] shared home ... one home for all? i have never thought about that, i just guess it might get a bit strange if several people are using the same home at the same time. [22:25] no [22:25] http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP [22:25] I mean: the /home/ is shared on the server ... and then mounted on the fat clients via NFS [22:25] ok, i have never attempted that. [22:26] and isn't kerberos just a way to encrypt the identification process? not to send plain passwords etc [22:27] you're asking the wrong person :) [22:27] ok, then we misunderstood each other regarding the homes ;-) [22:27] that is what i remember [22:28] i think it is this way: you can use kerberos for identificatin (windows machines with active directory use this) and then ldap as a central user database. so you should as well get a centralized way for access control. [22:29] hmm k [22:29] i am no expert and just guessing from half-burried windows knowledge. i am just about to look into all this again because i want to build a samba ldap server [22:29] ah [22:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer [22:30] yes, kerberos is just an authentication method to prevent man in the middle. [22:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn [22:31] Flosoft, you want ldap [22:31] and yes, you could do nfs homes [22:31] is this the thing I want? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn [22:31] i've abused pam to do that in the past, but i was havving nfs/dns issues :\ [22:31] it uses OpenLDAP [22:32] libpam-ldap is ultra handy in this instance [22:32] the thing I need is something easially manageable ... a webinterface? [22:33] there are ldap interfaces [22:33] what sort of easily? i find typing 'ldapadduser' fairly painless myself ;) [22:33] hmm [22:34] I was at first thinking about using Ubuntu Landscape [22:34] well, i am a console guy too, so i don't konw [22:34] to sync the users between the workstations etc. [22:35] using libpam-ldap+openldap you dont need syncing. it'll look up users as needed [22:36] yeah [22:37] what about groups etc? [22:38] I don't want the users to see all the configuration settings [22:38] can I hide them for a linux group? [22:39] you can put groups in ldap... is that your question? [22:40] well what if I don't use ldap for now [22:41] you can try NIS+ (i havent) or some mashup of puppet/cfengine (i have) [22:41] what do they do exactly? [22:42] !nis [22:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about nis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [22:42] bah. nis= network information services [22:44] i don't know nis, but as far as i know it is inferior to ldap, i was told it was difficult to manag.e [22:44] ok [22:45] nis? its effectively superceded by ldap [22:45] sorry, that was agreeing with das-t , not some new point ;) [22:47] ;-) [22:47] !puppet [22:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about puppet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [22:47] !cfengine [22:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about cfengine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [22:48] frigsake ubotu! [22:48] i've needed you to know 3 things in the last few days, and you didnt know any [22:50] wonder if the ops would mind me spamming more suggestions to them