| jjesse | i love spending my friday nights in airports | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | jjesse: not managed to blag your way into the lounge? | 00:09 |
| jjesse | Riddell: not yet, pretty soon i qualify for free access | 00:10 |
| jjesse | at least with United Airlines | 00:10 |
| Riddell | stdin: new koffice2 1.9.95.1 uploaded | 00:20 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 00:20 | |
| jjesse | Riddell thansk sfor writing | 00:21 |
| jjesse | off to find dinner | 00:21 |
| jjesse_ | is it rude to want to laugh at people who stroll up to the boarding gate in the airport and ask if the plane has left after there have been at least 4 final calls/ | 00:29 |
| stdin | it's not rude, as long as they don't see ;) | 00:36 |
| jjesse_ | thanks | 00:36 |
| jjesse_ | did you ever get a full kubuntu team member yeet? | 00:37 |
| stdin | yep, I even got the @ubuntu/member/stdin cloak :) | 00:38 |
| jjesse_ | that's exciting | 00:38 |
| jjesse_ | i just found out about that the other day | 00:38 |
| jjesse_ | and had to add it to my setup | 00:38 |
| stdin | I got mine pretty quick, just poked nalioth in -ops :p | 00:39 |
| stdin | turns out he uses the kde4 packages I made too | 00:40 |
| jjesse_ | that's cool | 00:40 |
| * crimsun chuckles at the cloaks | 00:40 | |
| jjesse_ | stdin were you at UDS and if so did we meet? | 00:40 |
| stdin | no I wan't there | 00:41 |
| * stdin has some nice lag... | 00:41 | |
| jjesse_ | o'hare airport wireless is actually prtty good | 00:42 |
| stdin | it happens every time I upload koffice2, or anything large like that | 00:42 |
| stdin | it's going between 2-3 secs | 00:42 |
| jjesse_ | is that because you are on a limit? | 00:42 |
| * jjesse_ ran into the tcp windo scaling problem at his hotel | 00:42 | |
| stdin | no, just because my internet sucks :p | 00:43 |
| jjesse_ | ooo flight is boarding have a good night | 00:43 |
| stdin | I have a decent downstrem 3.5Mbit/s | 00:43 |
| stdin | but upstream is sloooow | 00:43 |
| stdin | cya jjesse_ | 00:43 |
| stdin | fly safe | 00:43 |
| crimsun | unfortunately he has little control over that. | 00:44 |
| stdin | reverse it and change "fly" to "flight", that makes more sense | 00:44 |
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| stdin | Riddell: just so you know, there's a missing epoch on koffice2 as well :p | 03:21 |
| * Hobbsee wonders what you did with the -kde4 stuff | 03:22 | |
| * Hobbsee goes to read backscroll | 03:22 | |
| Hobbsee | i hadn't told you guys about it, as i'd not finished it :P | 03:22 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: we used your kubuntu-members-kde4 team :) | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: i see that :) | 03:23 |
| stdin | something about councils not liking kde4 ppa spam | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: was planning to get cprov to copy over some of the sources and binaries | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | uh...that won't help you | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | did you get more mail, after i asked people to poke me if they got more? | 03:24 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: I don't know, I wan't a member then | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | this was a few days ago | 03:24 |
| stdin | oh, well I haven't gotten any then | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | they turned mail off | 03:25 |
| stdin | we were going to setup a team ourself's kde4-packages or something, but then I saw yours there so just used that | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: have you had anything since we last discussed the mail situation? | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: did you get failure mail for today's kdepimlibs? | 03:27 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: nope, only ones I got were from the ppa packages I uploaded | 03:27 |
| stdin | unless gmail thought it was spam | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | were those kdepimlibs ppa packages that you uploaded? | 03:28 |
| stdin | I uploaded everything to the -kde4 ppa, nothing to the normal kubuntu-members one | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Source Package: kde4libs | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Version: 4:3.97.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1 | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Architecture: amd64 | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Archive: kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Component: main | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * State: Failed to build | 03:29 |
| stdin | yep -kde4 one was me | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Duration: a minute | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Build Log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10792484/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A3.97.0-1ubuntu1%7Egutsy1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | * Builder: https://launchpad.net/+builds/platinum | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | * Source: not available | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | so, did you get that mail yourself? | 03:30 |
| stdin | yeah | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | i didn't ask if you *uploaded* it, i asked if you got a *failure mail* to your personal email. | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | so, you did? | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | then we should check if Riddell also got a failure mail. | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | if Riddell really didn't get mail, then it's safe to add the team back | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | as the mailout is now working | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | assuming launchpad doesn't die again | 03:36 |
| * Hobbsee did not get mail to her normal bugmail | 03:37 | |
| stdin_ | wow, hell of a crash there | 03:39 |
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| * Hobbsee wonders what the point of asking people to tell her things is, if they go and ignroe it, and then create different problems. | 03:39 | |
| * Hobbsee sends a mail to the ML in the hope that people actually read and obey it. | 03:48 | |
| Hobbsee | stdin: you can probably get the LP admins to copy packages over, instead of reuploading them | 03:53 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: doesn't matter any more, the're all uploaded | 03:54 |
| stdin | but that would have been a bit easier | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | which is *precisely* one of the reasons where i had not made that team public. | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | s/where/why/ | 03:54 |
| stdin | Riddell: kdebase-runtime seems to make symlinks in /usr/bin to the apps in /usr/lib/kde4/bin :/ from binary-post-install/kdebase-runtime-bin:: and binary-post-install/kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4:: in debian/rules | 08:49 |
| stdin | and kdebase-* ftbfs on everything except i386 | 08:50 |
| stdin | oh, and koffice2 ftbfs on all | 08:50 |
| jpatrick | hello yuriy | 09:36 |
| sebastian^ | moin all | 09:42 |
| Riddell | stdin: mm, ok | 09:48 |
| Riddell | stdin: you should be using soprano 1.98 | 09:52 |
| mhb | good morning to all of you | 09:56 |
| sebastian^ | gm mhb | 10:02 |
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| mhb | silent as every weekend, eh? | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 11:06 |
| * txwikinger still tired from a 5h meeting last night | 11:06 | |
| mhb | txwikinger: was it related to kubuntu? | 11:07 |
| txwikinger | mhb: yes | 11:07 |
| mhb | txwikinger: what was it then? | 11:08 |
| txwikinger | the monthly CC for kubuntu-de.org | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | how is -de going? | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: more broke | 11:08 |
| txwikinger | well.. we just restructured the organisation and now we change the portal and wiki and so on | 11:09 |
| txwikinger | I think it is going well | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | stdin: please see https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all for the borken stuff | 11:11 |
| Riddell | stdin: new kdebase-runtime uploaded | 11:21 |
| Riddell | I really wish the packages in universe would actually build | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | why don't they? | 11:27 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: did you get any mail over the failed build bits from today? | 11:27 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: don't seem to have | 11:30 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: buildds busy with main packages I suppose | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: good. | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: and you didn't get it, because i black holed it to a folder in my email. | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: did you get anything after i asked "if anyone gets any more wrongly-sent mail from LP, please tell me"? | 11:31 |
| Riddell | no | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | good. | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | in which case, it's fine to add kubuntu-members to kubuntu-members-kde4, and the council as admins. | 11:32 |
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| buz | what happens when you upgrade dapper to gutsy skipping intermediate releases? | 12:17 |
| buz | my gf's father machine still runs dapper | 12:17 |
| buz | and going thru all releases is out of question on a 500k link | 12:18 |
| mhb | buz: what happens? | 12:20 |
| mhb | nobody really knows :o) | 12:21 |
| mhb | but I'd expect some breakage | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | buz: lack of transitions | 12:21 |
| buz | breakage like what | 12:21 |
| buz | like system not booting anymore | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | file overwrites, etc | 12:22 |
| buz | or more like "you have to force aptitude to do its job" | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | the latter | 12:22 |
| mhb | I'd expect some manual fixing, but the system should hopefully start | 12:22 |
| buz | i suppose i could live with that | 12:22 |
| buz | lets see what aptitude complains about | 12:23 |
| buz | mhh i have a kubuntu-desktop iso on my notebook, but of course no cdr handy | 12:24 |
| buz | aptitude wont even suggest a solution :P | 12:25 |
| stdin | Riddell: I uploaded the new -runtime, and the packages are using soprano 1.98, yes | 12:30 |
| nosrednaekim | ah..../me loves success stories http://hurricanelabs.blogspot.com/2007/12/my-first-blog-novel-life-with-linux.html | 13:10 |
| stdin | Riddell: but the way, removing kdelibs5 doesn't seem to remove all kde4 packages, some -data ones left over. I get this after removing kdelibs5 http://stdin.pastebin.com/d429d684a | 13:13 |
| RobertoM | I have a question about kbluetooth | 13:24 |
| RobertoM | Namely: kbtobexsrv is NOT included in the deb | 13:24 |
| RobertoM | so I can't send file from phones to PC or back | 13:25 |
| RobertoM | Is there hope for a fix, since the bug is fixed for Hardy? | 13:25 |
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| * mhb yawns | 15:04 | |
| * Hobbsee wonders when the terms for the council are up | 15:50 | |
| mhb | Hobbsee: 2008-07-29 | 15:57 |
| Hobbsee | erm, what year is it now? | 15:57 |
| Hobbsee | oh, 07. | 15:57 |
| Hobbsee | right. that's ages away | 15:57 |
| mhb | we still have 07 for a few days | 15:57 |
| mhb | yeah, that's when you & tonio expire. | 15:58 |
| mhb | our vista-loving friends are here until 2009-05-20 | 15:58 |
| Hobbsee | !visternal | 15:58 |
| ubotu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 15:58 |
| mhb | hmm | 15:59 |
| Hobbsee | now, he was saying something last night, i think, that he wouldn't do with me being here... | 15:59 |
| mhb | !nixternal | 15:59 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: who snitched on me :p | 16:42 |
| Hobbsee | no one. | 16:42 |
| nixternal | hehe | 16:42 |
| * Hobbsee logs :P | 16:42 | |
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| maini10 | Hello, I have found the error that prevents launch of KDE 4 full session. Xterm gives this error "can't open /share/config/startupconfig". Is it useful for you? | 17:31 |
| nosrednaekim | maini10: do you have all the packages installed that you need? | 17:32 |
| maini10 | Yes, at least i think | 17:32 |
| nosrednaekim | maini10: is this with a clean ~/.kde4? | 17:34 |
| maini10 | Yes | 17:36 |
| nosrednaekim | maini10: and did you do all of those export lines? | 17:36 |
| maini10 | nosrednaekim: I don't know how to digit tilde in xterm, so I have used /home/marco/.kde4 as KDEHOME | 17:38 |
| nosrednaekim | the tilda is right above the tab key usually. | 17:39 |
| maini10 | nosrednaekim: thanks, now I have typed the correct line, but it doesn't work | 17:40 |
| nosrednaekim | hum | 17:41 |
| maini10 | the previous line before the error is "kdostartupconfig (5594) main: running kdostartupconfig" | 17:43 |
| elisiano | maini10: la tilde la fai con ALT GR + ì (vicino al backspace) | 17:43 |
| maini10 | elisiano: thanks | 17:45 |
| ScottK | maini10: Do you have dbus-x11 installed, if not, install it. | 17:47 |
| maini10 | ScottK: yes, dbus is installed | 17:48 |
| ScottK | maini10: dbus-x11 is a separate package | 17:49 |
| maini10 | yes, i meant dbus-x11 is installed | 17:50 |
| ScottK | OK. Well that's my only idea. | 17:52 |
| maini10 | ScottK: thanks | 17:52 |
| mikkael | are the kde4 packages (3.96) in gutsy-backports the same as the ones from stdin ? | 17:54 |
| stdin | mikkael: they are the same | 17:59 |
| mikkael | stdin: i guess there is nor more recent snapshot compiled against gutsy somewhere (a ppa maybe) ? | 18:00 |
| nosrednaekim | mikkael: not that I know of... although RC2 should be coming out real soon | 18:00 |
| stdin | yep, RC2 isn't far off | 18:01 |
| mikkael | ah cool | 18:01 |
| mikkael | i liked 3.96 very much, but not the state of the kicker replacement/plasma | 18:02 |
| stdin | hopefully we'll see an improvement in 3.97.0 | 18:03 |
| mikkael | im confident | 18:08 |
| jeroenvrp2 | I installed KDE4 RC1 (3.96), but the "about KDE" dialogs show Beta4! Is this normal? | 18:13 |
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| stdin | jeroenvrp: yes | 18:20 |
| jeroenvrp | stdin: ok thanks | 18:21 |
| jeroenvrp | I was wondering :-) | 18:21 |
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| mhb | Riddell: remember our dear friend "some UTF-8 characters (like the dot in passwords) render really badly?" | 19:55 |
| mhb | it has paid us one more visit, it seems. | 19:55 |
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| Riddell | mhb: where's that? | 21:24 |
| ScottK | Is there a standard way to deal with a .desktop file for a package that needs root so that it will work when called from both Ubuntu and Kubuntu (it's a gtk package). | 21:26 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ubuntu gnome uses the KDE key | 21:27 |
| ScottK | So if it calls kdesudo packagename Gnome will figure it out? | 21:28 |
| mhb | Riddell: hardy | 21:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: I have all the updates, AFAIK. | 21:33 |
| mhb | Riddell: especially notable here when you go to kdm and type in your password | 21:36 |
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| mhb | could someone confirm or deny it? | 21:36 |
| CheGuevara | hmmm were KDE 4 RC2 packages meant to make all kde4 menu entries appear in kde 3 | 21:37 |
| CheGuevara | mhb what are the steps to reproduce | 21:37 |
| mhb | CheGuevara: if you have hardy, the steps are easier: update, log out, see what happens when you type in your password | 21:38 |
| mhb | if the font is messed up, I win | 21:38 |
| mhb | if not, you win | 21:38 |
| CheGuevara | the big password dots in kdm ? | 21:39 |
| mhb | yeah, like really big and ugly | 21:39 |
| CheGuevara | yep | 21:39 |
| CheGuevara | you win :P | 21:39 |
| mhb | yay for me! | 21:39 |
| mhb | :o) | 21:39 |
| CheGuevara | changed a couple of days ago | 21:40 |
| mhb | Riddell: any patch of significance that has been introduced to Qt in the last few days? | 21:41 |
| CheGuevara | or dropped | 21:42 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'm not sure we're thinking of the same bug | 21:43 |
| Riddell | can you get me a screenshot | 21:43 |
| Riddell | there's not been a qt upload recently | 21:43 |
| mhb | Riddell: didn't we have this sort of behaviour before, when some UTF-8 characters were rendered incorrectly? | 21:43 |
| mhb | if my memory isn't failing me, kcharmap produced nice screenshots, let me fire it up | 21:43 |
| CheGuevara | yeah that bug existed before i am sure | 21:44 |
| CheGuevara | in fiesty i think | 21:44 |
| CheGuevara | could it be fontconfig? | 21:44 |
| mhb | could be, yes | 21:45 |
| CheGuevara | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2007-December/002770.html | 21:45 |
| CheGuevara | this one | 21:45 |
| mhb | Riddell: http://mhb.ath.cx/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ugly-fonts.png | 21:48 |
| mhb | CheGuevara: you're good. | 21:48 |
| mhb | see you folks, it's saturday night's date time for me. | 21:50 |
| CheGuevara | Riddell, want me to get an old version of fontconfig and see if its that | 21:51 |
| xRaich[o]2x | hi. i'm testing hardy. is there a possibility to start kde4 without composite? | 21:55 |
| CheGuevara | i didn't find a way, though there is one | 22:00 |
| CheGuevara | had to disable composite in xorg.conf | 22:00 |
| CheGuevara | otherwise rc 2 doesn't start properly | 22:01 |
| xRaich[o]2x | jikes. xorg does not have a composite entry | 22:02 |
| CheGuevara | Section "Extensions" | 22:02 |
| CheGuevara | Option "Composite" "Disable" | 22:02 |
| CheGuevara | EndSection | 22:02 |
| xRaich[o]2x | thx ^^ | 22:03 |
| CheGuevara | np | 22:03 |
| CheGuevara | should let you start kde 4 now | 22:03 |
| xRaich[o]2x | jep it works now | 22:06 |
| xRaich[o]2x | i guess someone is already fixing the startkde4? | 22:06 |
| CheGuevara | to correct which bug? | 22:07 |
| xRaich[o]2x | there are some errors in it. the export varibables are issued before the #!/bin/sh and there is a wrong PATH variable | 22:12 |
| xRaich[o]2x | brb | 22:13 |
| CheGuevara | oh yeah there's a typo in path | 22:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | ah ok ^^ | 22:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | so... now a have a running system. how can i help the project? | 22:21 |
| Riddell | CheGuevara: sure | 22:46 |
| Riddell | mhb: it's not antialiased? | 22:48 |
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| mhb | Riddell: yeah, but only those buttons. | 23:25 |
| mhb | other fonts look fine. | 23:25 |
| Riddell | mhb: previously that character didn't show at all | 23:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: oh it did, but it was a different thing, you're right | 23:33 |
| Riddell | it got replaces with a similar character but not quite the same | 23:33 |
| Riddell | smallercircle | 23:33 |
| mhb | the size of it changed, I guess. Now it's also really huge - much bigger than usual, my nine-letter password fits in much worse. | 23:33 |
| Riddell | yeah, it's a different character | 23:33 |
| Riddell | so actually something got fixed, but not entirely | 23:34 |
| mhb | I'll check the Cuban revolutionary's theory | 23:37 |
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