LimCore | ubuntu uses 100% of CPU (well, 1 of 2 core so 50%) when downloading in synaptic, is this normal? | 00:23 |
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infinitycircuit | hardy alpha 1 seems much more stable than gutsy was at this point | 01:41 |
crimsun | heh. Install linux-image-2.6.24-1-generic, then. | 01:42 |
crimsun | ;-) | 01:42 |
infinitycircuit | i am running it | 01:42 |
crimsun | it's nice and explo-tastic here. | 01:43 |
WorkingOnWise | Is the compiz tray icon and Compiz Fuzion Settings Manager broken since yesterday? Mine is. | 03:16 |
Supaplex | I'm a long time user of sid, what's the ubuntu equiv? I need to compare sources and patches to see if I can isolate a few bugs. | 03:36 |
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silent | hey guys, long time no join, how's hardy coming along? | 04:26 |
LimCore | ubuntu is so insecure towards usres running a bit with scizors | 04:39 |
LimCore | memtest 10G -> hard freez. why not set any ulimit by default? | 04:39 |
bazhang | hardy is fast | 04:43 |
silent | what's new in hardy so far? | 04:45 |
LimCore | can we add default ulimis to hardy, please? | 04:45 |
bazhang | not that much new--just faster as far as I can tell--you should join hardy-changes mailing list--lists.ubuntu.com | 04:47 |
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Naisenu | If I am running Hardy already and have a problem with a different program on it, this channel or the main Ubuntu one? | 05:14 |
Dr_willis | hardy stuff goes here. | 05:15 |
Naisenu | okay | 05:15 |
Dr_willis | and hardy is very very much a work in progress. :) | 05:15 |
Naisenu | Hi. Trying to play a 3gp file from a friend. I added the mediubuntu gusty repository to SPM and installed ffplay. Also have the w32codecs installed. I get video but no audio. (Same question I asked there though) | 05:15 |
Naisenu | Hardy hasn't given me issues :) | 05:16 |
Naisenu | oh apparently I'm wrong and we've gone back to Gutsy ... husband playing mind games on me ... nm me then | 05:18 |
Naisenu | is there a better channel to ask this question btw? | 05:18 |
Dr_willis | Its possible its using some odd audio codec. try some other players. like vlc, xine, gmplayer, | 05:19 |
Dr_willis | also check what audio codec its using | 05:19 |
Naisenu | how do i do the last bit? | 05:19 |
Dr_willis | right clickon it - and look at properties. :) | 05:20 |
Naisenu | ah AMR audio | 05:20 |
Dr_willis | thats one ive Never heard of befor, :) | 05:21 |
Naisenu | libavcodec1d <- that package says it has support | 05:24 |
Naisenu | doing a search for AMR in SPM | 05:24 |
Naisenu | which package is gmplayer in? not finding it | 05:42 |
Naisenu | Okay update, i have totem, ffplayer, and vlc ... none of them give sound on the 3gp file i'm trying to play | 05:46 |
silent | man I'm really looking forward to getting my new credit card | 05:47 |
cps1966 | !nvidia | 06:11 |
ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 06:11 |
rx_ | hmm | 07:12 |
rx_ | i have problems with fonts since like 2 days | 07:12 |
rx_ | in firefox, fonts appear smaller | 07:12 |
rx_ | i would say barely readable | 07:13 |
rx_ | fontconfig changes? | 07:13 |
rx_ | might be firefox btw but i didnt see it being updated | 07:15 |
mendred | hi if i want to add PREFIX=/usr and | 07:19 |
mendred | LIBDIR=/usr/lib64 by default | 07:19 |
mendred | for all configure scripts | 07:19 |
mendred | is there some file i can set it..instead of plonking it for each compile across the system? | 07:20 |
capouais | hello | 07:26 |
capouais | I'm having some serious problems with my sound in hardy (gutsy, too) that I don't have in feisty. Can anyone help me diagnose it and submit a ticket? | 07:27 |
capouais | o...k... | 07:28 |
silent | ahahahahaa | 07:30 |
mohkohn | Is the lvm dmcrypt still in the alternate installer or is it also in the new installer? | 07:57 |
oxigen | can i use 32bit swap on 64bit build? | 09:46 |
Toma- | ...swap is a filesystem | 09:48 |
Toma- | bit has no effect | 09:48 |
oxigen | ok, thanks | 09:48 |
gary4gar | is pulse audio included in alpha ? | 11:07 |
bardyr | hey | 11:08 |
bardyr | !info linux-image-generic | 11:09 |
ubotu | linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB | 11:09 |
bardyr | !info linux-image-generic hardy | 11:09 |
ubotu | linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (hardy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB | 11:09 |
bardyr | how can i get the latest 2.6.24 kernel? | 11:09 |
gary4gar | bardyr, download from kernel.org & compile yourself :) | 11:11 |
bardyr | gary4gar, i was wondering about downloading the ubuntu kernel git and compiling it but i hoped there was a better way | 11:12 |
Hobbsee | ubuntu kernel is not necessarily the latest kernel | 11:13 |
gary4gar | bardyr, try kernel check | 11:14 |
bardyr | Hobbsee, i know but the the hardy tree should play better with hardy then a vanilla kernel? | 11:14 |
bardyr | gary4gar, kernel check? | 11:14 |
gary4gar | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618563 | 11:14 |
gary4gar | Hobbsee, i upgrade to alpha one last night, i see pulse audio running as one of the process, has pulse audio replaced ALSA? | 11:15 |
Hobbsee | probably, or it's in the process of doing so | 11:16 |
geser | !info linux-image-2.6.24-1-generic hardy | 11:19 |
ubotu | linux-image-2.6.24-1-generic: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24-1.1 (hardy), package size 19256 kB, installed size 66156 kB | 11:19 |
geser | bardyr: ^^^ I guess the meta package wasn't updated yet | 11:19 |
bardyr | w00t :D | 11:19 |
bardyr | geser, i was wondering why the kernel libc was .24 but not the kernel :D | 11:19 |
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gary4gar | hello anyone there? | 14:02 |
Tuplanolla | yea | 14:02 |
gary4gar | i have a problem with pulseaudio, no sound :( | 14:03 |
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stgraber | Hi, Any of you knows how to turn off the ssh agent part of the gnome keyring ? This thing annoys me, I prefer to manage the ssh-agent myself (on Hardy that's) | 17:04 |
jorgp | is there a spec as to what versions are planned for hardy's toolchain? | 18:06 |
crimsun | officially, no. | 18:09 |
jorgp | unofficially? | 18:09 |
crimsun | not documented on the wiki. | 18:09 |
crimsun | your best bet is to ask cjwatson or doko | 18:10 |
jorgp | are they staying with gcc 4.2 or moving to 4.3? | 18:10 |
jorgp | ok | 18:10 |
crimsun | I would think that staying with >= 4.2.2 is the choice | 18:11 |
crimsun | it is, after all, an LTS | 18:11 |
crimsun | we're already running a snap of 4.2.3 | 18:11 |
jorgp | makes sense | 18:12 |
jorgp | I guess 4.3 would be hardy +1 | 18:12 |
LimCore | vim hanged, should I report it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/vim/+filebug or find vim's upsteam bug tracker? | 18:23 |
capouais | hi :) | 19:58 |
cdm10 | Are the VirtualBox Guest Additions known to be broken in Hardy? | 20:03 |
bullgard4 | What does 'pm-utils' stand for? | 20:32 |
Seveas | bullgard4, wild guess: power management utils | 20:37 |
Seveas | !info pm-utils | 20:37 |
ubotu | pm-utils: utilities and scripts for power management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 196 kB | 20:37 |
bullgard4 | Seveas: My question proper was why a kernel developer said that pm-utils are for Hardy and acpi-support is for Gutsy. | 20:38 |
Seveas | !config chanenl plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder | 20:39 |
Seveas | !config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder | 20:39 |
Seveas | !config list plugins.encyclopedia | 20:40 |
Seveas | @config list plugins.encyclopedia | 20:40 |
ubotu | #database, #prefixchar, #searchorder, alert, aptdir, datadir, notfoundmsg, packagelookup, public, and relaychannel | 20:40 |
Seveas | @config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder | 20:40 |
ubotu | gutsy | 20:40 |
Seveas | @config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder hardy | 20:40 |
ubotu | OK | 20:40 |
Seveas | @config plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder | 20:40 |
ubotu | gutsy | 20:40 |
Seveas | !pm-utils | 20:40 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about pm-utils - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 20:40 |
Seveas | !info pm-utils | 20:40 |
ubotu | pm-utils: utilities and scripts for power management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.99.2-3 (hardy), package size 17 kB, installed size 188 kB | 20:41 |
Seveas | !info acpi-support | 20:41 |
ubotu | acpi-support: a collection of useful events for acpi. In component main, is optional. Version 0.104 (hardy), package size 34 kB, installed size 856 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64 lpia) | 20:41 |
Seveas | pm-utils has been promoted to main | 20:41 |
Seveas | Probably it's intended to replace acpi-support for newer kernels | 20:41 |
Seveas | the kernel developer you talked to knows better than I do :) | 20:42 |
bullgard4 | Seveas: As you might know, kernel developers are rarely verbose. | 20:43 |
Seveas | that I know :) | 20:43 |
bullgard4 | Seveas: So thank you very much for your ample help. | 20:44 |
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oliver_g_ | hi | 22:35 |
dr_evil | good evening | 22:35 |
oliver_g_ | I was wondering how to report bugs for Hardy alpha... | 22:36 |
oliver_g_ | For example, displayconfig-gtk thinks that I use the vesa driver when i actually use the intel driver | 22:36 |
oliver_g_ | which is probably due to the new Xorg and the now-nonexistent xorg.conf | 22:36 |
oliver_g_ | should I open a bug for things like this? | 22:37 |
dr_evil | perhaps somebody else knows, I already reported bugs, too, but nobody really seems to care about them | 22:38 |
oliver_g_ | I suppose most maintainers are quite aware of these problems that were introduced with new Xorg (and probably they are working on this also if no bugs are reported :) | 22:39 |
h3sp4wn | oliver_g_ / dr_evil : Could be interesting to find out what laptops some of the developers use (Then its highly likely that they would work properly very quickly) | 22:41 |
h3sp4wn | oliver_g_: Can you not just make an xorg.conf the old way ? (still works if it does exist) | 22:41 |
dr_evil | I meant this in general, not related to x org. however, I'm one of those lost souls that need to kill compiz frequently | 22:42 |
dr_evil | on the other hand, hardy alpha 1 is running much better than gutsy tribe 1 | 22:43 |
oliver_g_ | h3sp4wn: I'm just running the Hardy LiveCD right now, to test whether some problems I've seen under Gutsy have already been fixed in Hardy :-) | 22:43 |
oliver_g_ | h3sp4wn: and so in the usual "playing around" I noticed these things... | 22:44 |
oliver_g_ | it's probably too early still for casual bug reports | 22:44 |
* dr_evil exchanged the motherbaord of his hardy installation twice now, once with gigabyte (broken baord, USB controllers dead), and then again with MSI | 22:47 | |
dr_evil | compitz Version 1:0.6.99+git20071205-0ubuntu3: readd ati X300, X600, X700 to blacklist | 23:23 |
dr_evil | does anyone know why? my other machine has such a card (X300) | 23:23 |
h3sp4wn | You can just remove them from the blacklist should you wish | 23:24 |
h3sp4wn | edit /usr/bin/compiz | 23:25 |
crdlb | h3sp4wn: please don't recommend that | 23:26 |
crdlb | if you want to bypass the blacklist, then put SKIP_CHECKS=yes in ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager | 23:26 |
h3sp4wn | crdlb: If it works and you remove the pciid of you card then you can make a diff - why just skip the checks | 23:29 |
dr_evil | ok thank you both, it's not that important right now, as the machine is running fine with edgy, I just was surprised | 23:29 |
crdlb | h3sp4wn: because a compiz update will clobber it | 23:30 |
crdlb | and if you really *do* have problems, it's harder to undo | 23:30 |
h3sp4wn | crdlb: conf-miss && conf-new | 23:30 |
h3sp4wn | and reinstall the package | 23:30 |
crdlb | rm ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager is easier :) | 23:31 |
h3sp4wn | I guess I still treat compiz as a waste of time that you only play with for 5 mins every so often | 23:31 |
silent | h3sp4wn, I use it off and on | 23:37 |
silent | mostly to show up mac users | 23:37 |
h3sp4wn | silent: Most of the mac users I know wouldn't care about that | 23:42 |
dr_evil | I mostly care about stability and speed | 23:44 |
h3sp4wn | dr_evil: So why use bleeding edge linux then | 23:45 |
silent | if I wanted stability and speed I'd probably run 6.04 | 23:46 |
silent | until 8.04,that is | 23:46 |
crdlb | 6.06 :) | 23:46 |
silent | oh no | 23:46 |
cafuego | Except 6.06 isn't particularly useful on current hardware. | 23:47 |
silent | if I wanted stability I wouldnt use current hardware | 23:47 |
cafuego | Last year's hardware then - same diff ;-) | 23:47 |
silent | hehe, yea I'm waiting for 8.04.... probly stop upgrading for a while at that point | 23:48 |
silent | reinstalls are taking their toll on my sanity | 23:48 |
* cafuego runs 6.06 as Xen domUs to make hardware be not a problem. | 23:48 | |
h3sp4wn | Is there actually a xen installer for Ubuntu yet | 23:49 |
h3sp4wn | (Solaris Express for me is by far the way forward for running Xen Dom0 | 23:49 |
cafuego | h3sp4wn: debootstrap? | 23:49 |
silent | do you think the transformers in the movie were linux-based? | 23:50 |
cafuego | silent: There was no linux in the 80s. | 23:50 |
silent | lies | 23:50 |
h3sp4wn | cafuego: Its not integrated the same way as for example I could install a solaris domU or RHEL or CentOS etc | 23:50 |
silent | they brought it to earth | 23:51 |
cafuego | h3sp4wn: In terms of a GUI for xen-create-image? Prolly not... but oh well .. easily scriptable. | 23:51 |
h3sp4wn | cafuego: No - not bothered for a gui | 23:52 |
dr_evil | h3sp4wn well, i have three machines here. one is running edgy and I use it often, but gutsy wouldn't run very well, so when I build a new machine last week for a RAID system, I decided to give hary a try | 23:52 |
cafuego | h3sp4wn: I set 'em up via xen-create-image, then untar the libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap config into /. | 23:52 |
cafuego | h3sp4wn: Note though that I only run Ubuntu/Debian domUs. Not other distros. | 23:53 |
h3sp4wn | cafuego: Exactly | 23:53 |
dr_evil | h3sp4wn except the compiz problem (which seems to be triggered by xchat, and I'm now connected with VNC to a windows mirc) and some very old still unfixed bugs, hardy seems to workfne | 23:54 |
h3sp4wn | cafuego: I will be running other operating systems (but dealing with backups and such with zfs) | 23:54 |
* cafuego has raid5 with lvm snapshots and rdiff-backup | 23:55 | |
cafuego | But for now... | 23:55 |
cafuego | it's back to mythtv | 23:55 |
h3sp4wn | I can sort it out its just harder than it should be (Ubuntu supposed to be easy for all etc) | 23:56 |
poorenglish | sry, whats problem have compiz with xchat? | 23:57 |
poorenglish | has* | 23:58 |
dr_evil | poorenglish compiz seems to freeze (100% CPU) much faster when I'm running XChat-Gnome | 23:59 |
dr_evil | *seems* | 23:59 |
poorenglish | ok | 23:59 |
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