[00:23] ubuntu uses 100% of CPU (well, 1 of 2 core so 50%) when downloading in synaptic, is this normal? === lakin_ is now known as lakin === bmk789_sleep is now known as bmk789 [01:41] hardy alpha 1 seems much more stable than gutsy was at this point [01:42] heh. Install linux-image-2.6.24-1-generic, then. [01:42] ;-) [01:42] i am running it [01:43] it's nice and explo-tastic here. [03:16] Is the compiz tray icon and Compiz Fuzion Settings Manager broken since yesterday? Mine is. [03:36] I'm a long time user of sid, what's the ubuntu equiv? I need to compare sources and patches to see if I can isolate a few bugs. === stdin_ is now known as stdin [04:26] hey guys, long time no join, how's hardy coming along? [04:39] ubuntu is so insecure towards usres running a bit with scizors [04:39] memtest 10G -> hard freez. why not set any ulimit by default? [04:43] hardy is fast [04:45] what's new in hardy so far? [04:45] can we add default ulimis to hardy, please? [04:47] not that much new--just faster as far as I can tell--you should join hardy-changes mailing list--lists.ubuntu.com === Aishiko_ is now known as Aishiko [05:14] If I am running Hardy already and have a problem with a different program on it, this channel or the main Ubuntu one? [05:15] hardy stuff goes here. [05:15] okay [05:15] and hardy is very very much a work in progress. :) [05:15] Hi. Trying to play a 3gp file from a friend. I added the mediubuntu gusty repository to SPM and installed ffplay. Also have the w32codecs installed. I get video but no audio. (Same question I asked there though) [05:16] Hardy hasn't given me issues :) [05:18] oh apparently I'm wrong and we've gone back to Gutsy ... husband playing mind games on me ... nm me then [05:18] is there a better channel to ask this question btw? [05:19] Its possible its using some odd audio codec. try some other players. like vlc, xine, gmplayer, [05:19] also check what audio codec its using [05:19] how do i do the last bit? [05:20] right clickon it - and look at properties. :) [05:20] ah AMR audio [05:21] thats one ive Never heard of befor, :) [05:24] libavcodec1d <- that package says it has support [05:24] doing a search for AMR in SPM [05:42] which package is gmplayer in? not finding it [05:46] Okay update, i have totem, ffplayer, and vlc ... none of them give sound on the 3gp file i'm trying to play [05:47] man I'm really looking forward to getting my new credit card [06:11] !nvidia [06:11] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [07:12] hmm [07:12] i have problems with fonts since like 2 days [07:12] in firefox, fonts appear smaller [07:13] i would say barely readable [07:13] fontconfig changes? [07:15] might be firefox btw but i didnt see it being updated [07:19] hi if i want to add PREFIX=/usr and [07:19] LIBDIR=/usr/lib64 by default [07:19] for all configure scripts [07:20] is there some file i can set it..instead of plonking it for each compile across the system? [07:26] hello [07:27] I'm having some serious problems with my sound in hardy (gutsy, too) that I don't have in feisty. Can anyone help me diagnose it and submit a ticket? [07:28] o...k... [07:30] ahahahahaa [07:57] Is the lvm dmcrypt still in the alternate installer or is it also in the new installer? [09:46] can i use 32bit swap on 64bit build? [09:48] ...swap is a filesystem [09:48] bit has no effect [09:48] ok, thanks [11:07] is pulse audio included in alpha ? [11:08] hey [11:09] !info linux-image-generic [11:09] linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB [11:09] !info linux-image-generic hardy [11:09] linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (hardy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB [11:09] how can i get the latest 2.6.24 kernel? [11:11] bardyr, download from kernel.org & compile yourself :) [11:12] gary4gar, i was wondering about downloading the ubuntu kernel git and compiling it but i hoped there was a better way [11:13] ubuntu kernel is not necessarily the latest kernel [11:14] bardyr, try kernel check [11:14] Hobbsee, i know but the the hardy tree should play better with hardy then a vanilla kernel? [11:14] gary4gar, kernel check? [11:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618563 [11:15] Hobbsee, i upgrade to alpha one last night, i see pulse audio running as one of the process, has pulse audio replaced ALSA? [11:16] probably, or it's in the process of doing so [11:19] !info linux-image-2.6.24-1-generic hardy [11:19] linux-image-2.6.24-1-generic: Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24-1.1 (hardy), package size 19256 kB, installed size 66156 kB [11:19] bardyr: ^^^ I guess the meta package wasn't updated yet [11:19] w00t :D [11:19] geser, i was wondering why the kernel libc was .24 but not the kernel :D === Tomcat_` is now known as Tomcat_ [14:02] hello anyone there? [14:02] yea [14:03] i have a problem with pulseaudio, no sound :( === ember_ is now known as ember === DM| is now known as DM|istakingashow === DM|istakingashow is now known as DM|takingashower === DM|takingashower is now known as DM| [17:04] Hi, Any of you knows how to turn off the ssh agent part of the gnome keyring ? This thing annoys me, I prefer to manage the ssh-agent myself (on Hardy that's) [18:06] is there a spec as to what versions are planned for hardy's toolchain? [18:09] officially, no. [18:09] unofficially? [18:09] not documented on the wiki. [18:10] your best bet is to ask cjwatson or doko [18:10] are they staying with gcc 4.2 or moving to 4.3? [18:10] ok [18:11] I would think that staying with >= 4.2.2 is the choice [18:11] it is, after all, an LTS [18:11] we're already running a snap of 4.2.3 [18:12] makes sense [18:12] I guess 4.3 would be hardy +1 [18:23] vim hanged, should I report it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/vim/+filebug or find vim's upsteam bug tracker? [19:58] hi :) [20:03] Are the VirtualBox Guest Additions known to be broken in Hardy? [20:32] What does 'pm-utils' stand for? [20:37] bullgard4, wild guess: power management utils [20:37] !info pm-utils [20:37] pm-utils: utilities and scripts for power management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 196 kB [20:38] Seveas: My question proper was why a kernel developer said that pm-utils are for Hardy and acpi-support is for Gutsy. [20:39] !config chanenl plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder [20:39] !config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder [20:40] !config list plugins.encyclopedia [20:40] @config list plugins.encyclopedia [20:40] #database, #prefixchar, #searchorder, alert, aptdir, datadir, notfoundmsg, packagelookup, public, and relaychannel [20:40] @config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder [20:40] gutsy [20:40] @config channel plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder hardy [20:40] OK [20:40] @config plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder [20:40] gutsy [20:40] !pm-utils [20:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about pm-utils - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [20:40] !info pm-utils [20:41] pm-utils: utilities and scripts for power management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.99.2-3 (hardy), package size 17 kB, installed size 188 kB [20:41] !info acpi-support [20:41] acpi-support: a collection of useful events for acpi. In component main, is optional. Version 0.104 (hardy), package size 34 kB, installed size 856 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64 lpia) [20:41] pm-utils has been promoted to main [20:41] Probably it's intended to replace acpi-support for newer kernels [20:42] the kernel developer you talked to knows better than I do :) [20:43] Seveas: As you might know, kernel developers are rarely verbose. [20:43] that I know :) [20:44] Seveas: So thank you very much for your ample help. === never|mobi is now known as neversfelde|mobi [22:35] hi [22:35] good evening [22:36] I was wondering how to report bugs for Hardy alpha... [22:36] For example, displayconfig-gtk thinks that I use the vesa driver when i actually use the intel driver [22:36] which is probably due to the new Xorg and the now-nonexistent xorg.conf [22:37] should I open a bug for things like this? [22:38] perhaps somebody else knows, I already reported bugs, too, but nobody really seems to care about them [22:39] I suppose most maintainers are quite aware of these problems that were introduced with new Xorg (and probably they are working on this also if no bugs are reported :) [22:41] oliver_g_ / dr_evil : Could be interesting to find out what laptops some of the developers use (Then its highly likely that they would work properly very quickly) [22:41] oliver_g_: Can you not just make an xorg.conf the old way ? (still works if it does exist) [22:42] I meant this in general, not related to x org. however, I'm one of those lost souls that need to kill compiz frequently [22:43] on the other hand, hardy alpha 1 is running much better than gutsy tribe 1 [22:43] h3sp4wn: I'm just running the Hardy LiveCD right now, to test whether some problems I've seen under Gutsy have already been fixed in Hardy :-) [22:44] h3sp4wn: and so in the usual "playing around" I noticed these things... [22:44] it's probably too early still for casual bug reports [22:47] * dr_evil exchanged the motherbaord of his hardy installation twice now, once with gigabyte (broken baord, USB controllers dead), and then again with MSI [23:23] compitz Version 1:0.6.99+git20071205-0ubuntu3: readd ati X300, X600, X700 to blacklist [23:23] does anyone know why? my other machine has such a card (X300) [23:24] You can just remove them from the blacklist should you wish [23:25] edit /usr/bin/compiz [23:26] h3sp4wn: please don't recommend that [23:26] if you want to bypass the blacklist, then put SKIP_CHECKS=yes in ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager [23:29] crdlb: If it works and you remove the pciid of you card then you can make a diff - why just skip the checks [23:29] ok thank you both, it's not that important right now, as the machine is running fine with edgy, I just was surprised [23:30] h3sp4wn: because a compiz update will clobber it [23:30] and if you really *do* have problems, it's harder to undo [23:30] crdlb: conf-miss && conf-new [23:30] and reinstall the package [23:31] rm ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager is easier :) [23:31] I guess I still treat compiz as a waste of time that you only play with for 5 mins every so often [23:37] h3sp4wn, I use it off and on [23:37] mostly to show up mac users [23:42] silent: Most of the mac users I know wouldn't care about that [23:44] I mostly care about stability and speed [23:45] dr_evil: So why use bleeding edge linux then [23:46] if I wanted stability and speed I'd probably run 6.04 [23:46] until 8.04,that is [23:46] 6.06 :) [23:46] oh no [23:47] Except 6.06 isn't particularly useful on current hardware. [23:47] if I wanted stability I wouldnt use current hardware [23:47] Last year's hardware then - same diff ;-) [23:48] hehe, yea I'm waiting for 8.04.... probly stop upgrading for a while at that point [23:48] reinstalls are taking their toll on my sanity [23:48] * cafuego runs 6.06 as Xen domUs to make hardware be not a problem. [23:49] Is there actually a xen installer for Ubuntu yet [23:49] (Solaris Express for me is by far the way forward for running Xen Dom0 [23:49] h3sp4wn: debootstrap? [23:50] do you think the transformers in the movie were linux-based? [23:50] silent: There was no linux in the 80s. [23:50] lies [23:50] cafuego: Its not integrated the same way as for example I could install a solaris domU or RHEL or CentOS etc [23:51] they brought it to earth [23:51] h3sp4wn: In terms of a GUI for xen-create-image? Prolly not... but oh well .. easily scriptable. [23:52] cafuego: No - not bothered for a gui [23:52] h3sp4wn well, i have three machines here. one is running edgy and I use it often, but gutsy wouldn't run very well, so when I build a new machine last week for a RAID system, I decided to give hary a try [23:52] h3sp4wn: I set 'em up via xen-create-image, then untar the libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap config into /. [23:53] h3sp4wn: Note though that I only run Ubuntu/Debian domUs. Not other distros. [23:53] cafuego: Exactly [23:54] h3sp4wn except the compiz problem (which seems to be triggered by xchat, and I'm now connected with VNC to a windows mirc) and some very old still unfixed bugs, hardy seems to workfne [23:54] cafuego: I will be running other operating systems (but dealing with backups and such with zfs) [23:55] * cafuego has raid5 with lvm snapshots and rdiff-backup [23:55] But for now... [23:55] it's back to mythtv [23:56] I can sort it out its just harder than it should be (Ubuntu supposed to be easy for all etc) [23:57] sry, whats problem have compiz with xchat? [23:58] has* [23:59] poorenglish compiz seems to freeze (100% CPU) much faster when I'm running XChat-Gnome [23:59] *seems* [23:59] ok