[00:19] <Misosaki> The palette hasn't actually been changed to pink and teal?
[00:19] <somerville32> Misosaki, of course it has
[00:20] <Misosaki> Seriously?
[00:21] <somerville32> I'm dead serious. We're going to try and target the stay at home moms this release.
[00:21] <Misosaki> Ah. Thanks.
[00:21] <somerville32> :P
[00:21]  * somerville32 is joking and really had to no idea.
[00:22] <Misosaki> >_>"
[00:25] <Misosaki> So when will the "official" direction be finalised?
[00:26]  * somerville32 is a developer, not an artist :P
[00:26] <Misosaki> (i.e. info for artwork direction)
[00:26] <Misosaki> Lucky.
[00:31] <Misosaki> Thanks anyway. Have fun, everyone.
[07:07] <DanaG> Pink and teal?  I hope that's a joke...
[07:07] <DanaG> I don't have a grudge against pink, but it certainly doesn't go with teal, I think.
[07:07] <DanaG> (ooh, rhyme!  Heh.)
[07:15] <troy_s> DanaG: Well, it is a joke.  That said, pink and teal would probably work quite alright as a design base for something.  I don't know about a desktop, but ... ;)
[07:15] <troy_s> kwwii: How did the meet go.
[07:22] <DanaG> wtf? num lock not working....  (not an issue relevant to this channel.)
[07:30] <DanaG> Oh yeah, right now I'm using a theme called "Jellyfish-Aurora", which uses the windeco of the "Nodoka" theme and the Aurora engine, with less omg-I-need-sunglasses bright blue.
[07:30] <DanaG> But I find myself missing orange -- orange and brown are what make Ubuntu recognizable to many people.
[07:32] <DanaG> It feels somewhat like some sort of 'betrayal' to use blue on Ubuntu, to me.  I don't know why.
[13:40] <darkmatter> http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/sets/72157603406043713/ <-- XD
[13:55] <lukeen> darkmatter: whats funny about it?
[13:55] <darkmatter> never said it was funny. the 'XD' was an approximation of my shite-eating grin :)
[13:58] <darkmatter> starting work on a gtk engine. using a mod of the gilouche theme to test with ftm (as I haven't fully decided on the defaults yet). but am having fun with smooth, clean cairo and some textual 'pop' to give a touch of 'eyecandy' without having to actually gloss anything)
[14:00] <lukeen> ah its from you?
[14:00] <darkmatter> lukeen: its still very early pre alpha (only the gtk buttons have been cairo'd up, and just roughly) but it goes to show you don't need "bling" to bling ;)
[14:00] <darkmatter> lukeen: yup.
[14:00] <lukeen> i've used something very similar to yours .. but i cannot find it at the moment .. *searching*
[14:04] <darkmatter> lukeen: I modded gilouche's gtkrc to use the narcissus engine I'm working on, which is why it would look familiar (the color and the 'computer' buttons are straight from opensuse), but if you look at the button drawing in evolution (even though its just rough, as well as the fillin pixmapped panel.. which is only staying till i get that far into the engine code.. you can see the general feel I'm after as far as the widgets go.)
[14:08] <darkmatter> the engine itself will be clean and elegant. I was thinkin of doing a soft grey for the default theme
[14:08] <lukeen> darkmatter: you mean gilouche theme for clearlooks? i can remember a pixmap based theme, it had a very unique look
[14:10] <darkmatter> lukeen: ahh... not a clue about the pixmap, but thats gilouche for clearlooks converted to the narcissus engine I started working on last night :)
[14:10] <lukeen> ah well i think i've found it, well its not what i had in mind but also soft like yours: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glory-Simplex?content=60326
[14:13] <lukeen> but engines are always better: everyone can easily change it to the color he/she likes and they are much faster... pixmap's evil ;)
[14:13] <lukeen> a lol? was this theme by you?
[14:22] <darkmatter> lukeen: hehe.. yes.. I thought you meant a theme by someone *else* ;P
[14:22] <darkmatter> but indeed, thats mine
[14:23] <lukeen> lol
[14:24] <darkmatter> lukeen: and thats why I'm making an engine. basically taking the design pattern I came up with in glory (which was never a finished theme btw), and evolving/polishing it up
[14:24] <darkmatter> them people can ruin mt hard work by making pink versions! ;O
[14:24] <darkmatter> *then
[14:25] <darkmatter> *my
[14:25] <lukeen> very cool. looking forward to a release of your engine!
[14:25] <darkmatter> so am I :)
[19:00] <_MMA_> Anyone know the link to the DIY Ubuntu art? The stuff you can print yourself for disk labels and such?
[19:00] <TheSheep> _MMA_: search for DIY on the wiki
[19:01] <_MMA_> k
[21:39] <cursor> Hey!
[21:42] <cursor> i'm pretty new to the whole development side of the community but definatley want to contribute something back , soo can anyone give me some sort of direction to go in just so i know where to sign up and soo on
[21:43] <cursor> any help much apreciated
[21:46] <_MMA_> Development for?
[21:46] <cursor> anything to do with the art work side of things
[21:47] <_MMA_> Well alot is on hold ATM. Ill get you some links.
[21:47] <cursor> thanks
[21:47] <_MMA_> Also as its the weekend it will be pretty quiet around here.
[21:47] <cursor> ah i understand
[21:48] <cursor> i had a look around the wiki but its sorta confusing wasnt sure where to begin
[21:48] <_MMA_> Where the is the place to start.
[21:49] <_MMA_> Anything specific you want to help with?
[21:49] <_MMA_> @google ubuntu art
[21:49] <_MMA_> gah
[21:50] <cursor> haha well nothing specific really, just anything to do with the graphics side
[21:50] <_MMA_> A Google search brings up relevant links also. http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+art&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[21:51] <_MMA_> cursor: Thats very broad. Do you have a portfolio?
[21:51] <cursor> not as off yet , various bits of work doted around. Not really got around to it
[21:52] <cursor> not had need for one as im still a student , studying design (product mainly) and computer science
[21:54] <_MMA_> Never time like the present. :) I would sign up for the art mailing list and watch. Submitting ideas/mockups for specific aspects can also be a start.
[21:55] <cursor> haha very true , okay will do
[21:55] <cursor> i wouldnt mind helping somehow with the icons , i did see somewhere a list for an icon pack being developed with various icons that still need to be created
[21:58] <cursor> i really need to start developing a portfolio
[21:58] <cursor> i have some work for my design course online somewhere i'll have a look for it
[21:59] <cursor> http://peterhollis-design.carbonmade.com/
[21:59] <cursor> not alot i know n not amazing but thats all i have uploaded
[22:00] <_MMA_> Did you do the manufacturing on the chrome/glass pieces?
[22:01] <_MMA_> (or plastic. Im not sure)
[22:01] <cursor> noo there all computer generated images
[22:01] <_MMA_> Ahh... Killer.
[22:01] <_MMA_> In?
[22:01] <cursor> i am eventually going to have to produce the final design
[22:02] <cursor> oh various software one or 2 in maya , few in some crappy cad package
[22:02] <cursor> mainly rendered in maya
[22:03] <cursor> and the manufactoring side for the final design i'll do all the metal work myself then sending off for chroming
[22:04] <_MMA_> Nice.
[22:04] <_MMA_> /me used to do alot of steel/aluminum work.
[22:04] <cursor> nice
[22:05] <cursor> im pretty new to it
[22:05] <cursor> i'm pretty shakey doing much work at the moment caused myself a nice injury lol
[22:06] <_MMA_> Welding is alot of fun. tig/mig welding. You can do some beautiful things if you know how to use a tig welder.
[22:07] <cursor> nice, im not really to confident with production side , i mean give me some time n i can get what i want complete but much rather work on design side
[22:09] <_MMA_> Trust me. If you learn the manufacturing side of it it will make you a better designer. One can design the craziest of things but if you cant actually make it, what does it matter?
[22:10] <cursor> yeah i know what you mean, since i've started on the practical side my designs have become much more ergonomic
[22:10] <cursor> which when it comes to design course's is a good thing lol
[22:13] <cursor> think i had too much creative freedom as soon as it come to manufacture , i hit alot of problems
[22:13] <cursor> anyway haha before i start going on n on , how many people do you tihnk roughly contribute towards the ubuntu artwork?
[22:14] <_MMA_> Well that depends of your definition of "contribute".
[22:15] <_MMA_> 1, full-time person is paid to work on it. He is guided by what Mark S wants to a large degree.
[22:16] <cursor> ah i didnt know that , well erm more specific say how many artists rougly contibuted to the art work of the last release?
[22:16] <_MMA_> But after the final design direction is fleshed out, there will be things that need done. At some point soon that should all be known. We're kinda waiting atm.
[22:16] <_MMA_> So one we know people can jump in and help where needed.
[22:17] <_MMA_> I couldnt tell you a number. Very little actually. For various reasons.
[22:18] <cursor> ahh i see , see i hadnt really got an idea how the whole artwork community worked
[22:19] <_MMA_> It has its own way of working along with a up and down history. Just hang out. You'll get the hang of it.
[22:20] <cursor> okay will do
[22:20] <cursor> soo in the great scheme of things really any work i do wont make the next version
[22:21] <_MMA_> Into Hardy?
[22:22] <cursor> yup i know stupid thing to say haha
[22:22] <_MMA_> Who knows. Most are waiting around for guidelines so they can try to help with what needs done.
[22:22] <cursor> ahh i see
[22:26] <cursor> troy_s i just seen your logo for the ubuntu studio hardy , very nice work
[22:31] <cursor> _MMA_ you manage the ubuntu studio project?
[22:32] <_MMA_> Yes I do.
[22:32] <cursor> oh wow nice
[22:33] <cursor> i really like the feel your trying to create for the next release
[22:34] <_MMA_> The DIY thing?
[22:34] <cursor> yeah , the whole distressed , indie image
[22:34] <cursor> really nice
[22:35] <_MMA_> Thats been postponed. Im just not getting enough help on it and rather than try to force it myself Im delaying it.
[22:35] <cursor> it sorta reminds me of the artwork for the mika album (i know mika sad haha) but i really lked the album cover
[22:36] <_MMA_> ;)
[22:36] <cursor> ahh pitty , i dont mind helping in someway
[22:37] <kwwii> evening
[22:38] <kwwii> cursor: I will be defining the direction for Hardy and beyond very shortly, if you are interested in working on the design/artwork
[22:39] <kwwii> for the default work, that is
[22:39] <cursor> oh okay yup i find the whole project really intresting
[22:40] <kwwii> naturally, for everyone interested in creating something worthwhile, we will include community wallpapers too
[22:40] <kwwii> erm, community themes
[22:40] <cursor> it gives me something to put my skills to use where i feel im actually achiving something
[22:40] <kwwii> cursor: any work you can show us? :-)
[22:40] <kwwii> better put :D
[22:41] <_MMA_> http://peterhollis-design.carbonmade.com
[22:41] <cursor> not really i'll try n gather everything up i have , it scatered all over the place haha
[22:42] <cursor> i have a hardrive somewhere with some vector art on i did a while ago i'll have to get that hooked up
[22:44] <troy_s> kwwii: So what was the result?
[22:46] <kwwii> troy_s: it is the weekend...I have lots of shit ranging throughmy head at this time
[22:46] <troy_s> kwwii: Oh I thought it was a one dayer.
[22:47] <kwwii> troy_s: the most important thing right now is that Hardy, the next LTS will be the end of this cycle
[22:47] <kwwii> so any really major changes will be things that we start now and finish in Hardy+1
[22:51] <cursor> sounds like you lot have alot of work
[22:52] <kwwii> cursor: no doubt, and I have one more day before I go on vacation until the second week in January
[22:53] <cursor> wow, whats happening with the project till then?
[22:55] <cursor> whens the release target for hardy? i not checked
[22:55] <kwwii> cursor: speaking for myself, I am going crazy!!!! wooooohooooooo!
[22:56] <cursor> haha well things are going well then lol
[22:59] <kwwii> yeah, there will be more info coming soon
[23:00] <cursor> good, it will be intresting for me to follow the project even if i dont end up contributing much
[23:09] <kwwii> lol, yeah
[23:09] <kwwii> me too
[23:10] <cursor> lol
[23:52] <cursor> im off now thanks for all the help