| pschulz01 | DarkMageZ: .. but don't let that distract you. | 00:00 |
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| * dantalizing is away: I'm busy | 00:34 | |
| * dantalizing is back (gone 00:04:12) | 00:38 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pschulz01, what sort of ram do the perf nodes/test boxes use - ddr or ddr2? i was looking at http://www.educypedia.be/computer/memorycomparison.htm and it made me wonder | 01:00 |
| pschulz01 | ddr2 (I think) | 01:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. | 01:02 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser goes to ask kim stuff | 01:03 | |
| nathan | in order to install ubuntu via pxe booting, do I need to use the alternative disk? | 01:53 |
| nathan | it's not working with ubuntu desktop iso | 01:53 |
| nathan | and it does work with ubuntu server iso | 01:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i think you need to create a custom image | 02:16 |
| Bawbatos | dumb question - how do i find out if hardware is supported in the 2.6 kernel. every i find is from 1999-2003 for this card | 02:49 |
| oldmanstan | nathan: yeah, you can't use the live cd | 02:59 |
| oldmanstan | they tell you that somewhere in the wiki iirc | 02:59 |
| nealmcb | Bawbatos: what card are you talking about? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 03:02 |
| Bawbatos | that is the thing. it is token ring... | 03:03 |
| Bawbatos | and i am trying to see where that is at. the linux tr project last update was in 2003 | 03:04 |
| Bawbatos | so 2.3 kernel | 03:04 |
| Bawbatos | http://www.linuxtr.net/index.html | 03:04 |
| NineTeen67Comet | Hi all .. I had a hard drive eat it, and eventually with the use of dd_rescue obtained a partial .img file from it .. My question is now .. Is there something out there that can crack open this unfinished .img file so I can get at least some of the stuff out of it? (I googled how to open an img file and it was just picture stuff). | 03:05 |
| Bawbatos | i mean i still see freaking decnet modules there.. | 03:05 |
| nealmcb | Bawbatos: I see them talking about token ring last year, so no reason to suppose that they've removed support.... http://lwn.net/Articles/213657/ | 03:07 |
| nealmcb | linux supports more hardware "out-of-the-box" than ANY other OS.... | 03:08 |
| Bawbatos | that link does not say it has been removed | 03:09 |
| nealmcb | NineTeen67Comet: I'd guess you'd want to make a copy and loop-mount it | 03:09 |
| nealmcb | Bawbatos: right | 03:09 |
| NineTeen67Comet | nealmcb: Is that like .. mount -o loop /directory/with/backup.img .. ? | 03:10 |
| Bawbatos | okay. so i found a driver for it. | 03:10 |
| Bawbatos | /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/kernel/drivers/net/tokenring$ | 03:10 |
| Bawbatos | and modprobed it. | 03:10 |
| Bawbatos | but do not see it coming up | 03:11 |
| nealmcb | NineTeen67Comet: yeah - with a directory name at the end to mount on, and perhaps a -t option to specify the type | 03:12 |
| NineTeen67Comet | nealmcb: Okay .. I'm in Google now to get the syntax right .. thanks for the direction hopefully it'll mount since it isn't a finished .img file. | 03:12 |
| nealmcb | NineTeen67Comet: good luck - I know that can be a scary place :-O | 03:13 |
| Bawbatos | what is the apt package for the kernel source? | 03:13 |
| NineTeen67Comet | grin .. I'm more afraid of my wife if I can't recover some of the pictures .. hehehehe | 03:14 |
| nealmcb | "linux-source" is for the latest | 03:14 |
| nealmcb | or linux-source-2.6.22 for a particular one | 03:14 |
| NineTeen67Comet | nealmcb: what -t would an .img file be? The hdd it was made from was xfs .. but I told it to get ALL of sdd .. not just sdd1 .. | 03:15 |
| nealmcb | NineTeen67Comet: then you may need to specify the offset to the particular partition - since that is what you want to mount | 03:16 |
| NineTeen67Comet | aha .. okay .. I'll peek around for that .. | 03:16 |
| nealmcb | http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:qemu#mounting_a_qemu_disk_image_on_the_host | 03:16 |
| nealmcb | fdisk -l file.img should help - see that post for more | 03:17 |
| Bawbatos | tr0 Link encap:16/4 Mbps Token Ring (New) HWaddr 00:01:02:64:31:63 | 03:19 |
| Bawbatos | thanks! | 03:19 |
| nealmcb | Bawbatos: cool | 03:19 |
| nealmcb | so it even came up as an inteface :-) | 03:20 |
| nealmcb | what module? | 03:20 |
| Bawbatos | no, i had to do ifconfig tr0 up after the modprobe | 03:20 |
| Bawbatos | 3c359 | 03:20 |
| Bawbatos | i am building a ccie lab and got a bunch of routers that have tr interfaces plus enet for cheap. using the tr with a tr switch as a backend. | 03:21 |
| Bawbatos | but i needed a box to route to the network | 03:21 |
| nealmcb | ccie? | 03:21 |
| Bawbatos | a cisco cert | 03:21 |
| nealmcb | nice | 03:21 |
| Bawbatos | http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/index.html | 03:21 |
| Bawbatos | i was hoping to do it on my openbsd firewall but they pulled tr support in 4.2 | 03:22 |
| Bawbatos | hum, how do i start it on boot now....there is a file for modprobe on boot .... sorry new to ubuntu. nice clean server install tho. impressed | 03:24 |
| nealmcb | /etc/network/interfaces | 03:28 |
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| NineTeen67Comet | grumble .. I'm looking for a really inexpensive mobo/cpu combo for my server (Currently a very tired P4 1.3ghz, 256mb ram, 2x320gig hd, 1x40gig hd headless box .. That is stalling about every 5 minutes, then crashes all together every 12-15 hours .. No syslog errors or nothing .. | 04:30 |
| === Bawbatos_Away is now known as Babatos | ||
| Babatos | what file do i edit for having a module load at startup that is not autoloading.. | 05:39 |
| Babatos | i have a nic that is not loading. | 05:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Babatos, /etc/modprobe* are the files | 05:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | find the right one ;) | 05:41 |
| Babatos | i saw that. however i did not see the right one. | 05:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Babatos, look at `man modprobe.conf`. not sure if it will help or not | 05:42 |
| nealmcb | Babatos: /etc/modules | 05:43 |
| Babatos | ah, cool. i was loking in /etc/modprobe.d | 05:54 |
| Babatos | crtl-alt-backspace should kill gdm right | 06:10 |
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| lamont | Babatos: actually, it kills X, which is a parent of gdm, and therefore takes out gdm. | 06:15 |
| Babatos | yah, thats what i mean. cept i have this issue. i killed it - and the screen still has the no signal on it. | 06:15 |
| Babatos | boots till gdm starts then no pic. | 06:15 |
| Babatos | ugh. | 06:16 |
| Babatos | okay i have that fixed, and even have my token ring network up on ipv6 | 06:27 |
| Babatos | is there a good gui for setting up this server as a firewall. i hate iptables and want it to die but i am going to use this in place of my openbsd | 06:28 |
| * Babatos crying | 06:28 | |
| ScottK | Babatos: If you want GUI help, see #ubuntu. | 06:35 |
| Babatos | okay thanks. | 06:35 |
| Babatos | i just cannot take iptable | 06:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | iptables is hurt :( | 06:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *hugs iptables* | 06:37 |
| Babatos | pf is just so much better | 06:37 |
| Babatos | i have 3 freaking firewall certs from vendors and i cannot get my head around iptables | 06:38 |
| ScottK | Babatos: That may be your problem. I started with a known working iptables script and adjusted to my taste. It didn't seem that hard. | 06:38 |
| Babatos | no, it is way convoluted. | 06:39 |
| Babatos | vs, pf, ipfw, ipf | 06:39 |
| ScottK | OK. It's all I've used. It didn't seem that bad to me (with a base script to start with). | 06:39 |
| Babatos | have you ever seen pf | 06:39 |
| ScottK | Nope. | 06:40 |
| ScottK | So I've got no basis for comparison. | 06:40 |
| Babatos | ah, well - pass in inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state | 06:40 |
| Babatos | or block drop in quick on $ext_if from <ssh-bruteforce> | 06:41 |
| Babatos | pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port ssh \ | 06:41 |
| Babatos | flags S/SA keep state \ | 06:41 |
| Babatos | (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload <ssh-bruteforce> flush global) | 06:41 |
| Babatos | and that is the 2 most complex things you will see. and it makes sense out the gate | 06:41 |
| Babatos | someone told me to look at firestarter so i will do that | 06:42 |
| ScottK | I've heard good things about it, but never used it. | 06:43 |
| Babatos | have a look at this - http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1470 | 06:43 |
| Babatos | and tell me you cannot figure it out in like 30 secs | 06:43 |
| ScottK | Babatos: Not at 2AM I can't. I can see it's generally readable. | 06:47 |
| Babatos | haahah... okay | 06:47 |
| Babatos | only 1047 here. | 06:47 |
| perfector | whats wmvare?? | 08:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | vmware? or wmvare? | 08:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !vmware | 08:20 |
| ubotu | VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers | 08:20 |
| perfector | ok so jeos is a basic distro that includes vmware player? | 08:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, its to run inside vmware player | 08:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !jeos | 08:22 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 08:22 |
| perfector | aha... thanks.. whats the size of this distro? | 08:22 |
| perfector | and what packages does it include? | 08:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ubotu, JEOS is the latest addition to the Ubuntu family. It is designed for running inside VMWare and other virtualisation tools like QEMU. | 08:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the iso ~150mb | 08:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and its a bare minimum packages (or should be, its getting thinner for the next release) | 08:23 |
| perfector | so i guess there is no X.. | 08:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | correct | 08:24 |
| perfector | thanks.. | 08:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | np | 08:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so near, yet so far. *grin*. someone from -ops contacted me, checked i was talking about ubuntu's jeos, then didnt set the bot entry :( | 08:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | !jeos | 08:29 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 08:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 08:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pity i dont go there anymore, i'd follow up *heh* | 08:33 |
| BobSapp | would you guys say that a celeron 300 is underpowered to run a LAMP stack? | 11:56 |
| BobSapp | right now mine is running one with 96mb ram, every time i make changes on wordpress i can smell a little blue smoke :) | 11:56 |
| Hardin | BobSapp: Unless you've got a heavy load of visitors I'd say a 300mhz is plenty enough to run a LAMP on. Perhaps you might want to add som extra RAM thought. | 12:09 |
| BobSapp | yeah it was thrashing on any page actionr | 12:19 |
| Gargoyle | greetings | 13:07 |
| BobSapp | hi | 13:53 |
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| disposable | (feisty server) i have two NICs and they keep swapping their ethX number after each reboot. how do i make the X static? i know i am supposed to use some z25 + udev config file, but my /dev/ directory doesn't have anything like that. | 15:45 |
| disposable | sorry, found it. /etc/udev/rules | 15:47 |
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| fenggg | hi can anybody help me | 19:16 |
| Luke | I'm getting these emails from cron every day. Can anyone help me pinpoint the problem?: http://pasteosaurus.com/44191 | 19:18 |
| Nafallo | Luke: /etc/cron.daily/find quits with error status 1 instead of 0 | 19:29 |
| Luke | yea but why? | 19:41 |
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| nealmcb | Luke: have you looked at /etc/cron.daily/find ? it appears that perhaps you don't have a userid "nobody" if yours is like mine | 20:08 |
| Luke | nealmcb: i have that user | 20:17 |
| * nealmcb wonders why that script is checking for nobody anyway.... | 20:17 | |
| Luke | also if that was where the exit 1 was coming from, i'd assume it would put the output line in there as well right? | 20:17 |
| nealmcb | Luke: hmm - can you try running the update command given there? | 20:18 |
| nealmcb | updatedb* | 20:18 |
| Luke | yea i'll try that | 20:18 |
| Luke | how do I check the exit status from bash prompt? | 20:19 |
| nealmcb | and I agree, it would probably output that error message - but sometimes cron and stdout are strange | 20:19 |
| nealmcb | echo $? | 20:19 |
| nealmcb | that it the exit status from the previous command | 20:19 |
| Luke | yea that db line is exiting w/ 1 | 20:19 |
| nealmcb | any output? don't redirect it... | 20:19 |
| soren | Luke: Did you change /etc/updatedb.conf at all? | 20:19 |
| Luke | i'll cehck that | 20:20 |
| Luke | soren: not that I know of | 20:20 |
| Luke | no i haven't | 20:20 |
| Luke | "ioprio_set: No such process | 20:20 |
| Luke | " | 20:20 |
| Luke | that's the error | 20:20 |
| nealmcb | maybe from ionice? | 20:21 |
| Luke | piping the errors to dev null seems like a bad idea =) | 20:21 |
| Luke | nealmcb: yea totally | 20:21 |
| Luke | what is that tho? | 20:21 |
| nealmcb | try leaving just the "ionice -c ${IONICE_CLASS:-2} -p ${IONICE_PRIORITY:-7} " part out and run again | 20:21 |
| nealmcb | i.e. run updatedb via nice | 20:22 |
| Luke | permission denied bu tit runs | 20:23 |
| nealmcb | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/findutils/+bug/152692 | 20:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 152692 in findutils "updatedb cron job fails" [Low,Triaged] | 20:23 |
| Luke | hmm | 20:23 |
| Luke | thanks | 20:23 |
| soren | Is this on gutsy? | 20:23 |
| Luke | yea | 20:23 |
| nealmcb | ohh - ugly - why is it "low" priority? | 20:24 |
| Luke | prob in case the server is doing anything else | 20:24 |
| Luke | ooh you mean the bug | 20:24 |
| Luke | haha | 20:24 |
| nealmcb | no - the bug is "low" | 20:24 |
| nealmcb | yup - I've got a process number 7 also.... | 20:25 |
| Luke | runs fine w/ the given patch | 20:25 |
| Luke | looks like they just fudged the flags | 20:26 |
| nealmcb | you changed your cron script? good | 20:26 |
| Luke | yea | 20:26 |
| soren | I'll fix it in hardy. | 20:27 |
| nealmcb | if 30% of machines out there aren't getting updated slocate stuff, that seems like a problem | 20:27 |
| nealmcb | soren: :-) | 20:27 |
| Luke | ha totally | 20:27 |
| Luke | thanks for helping me find this guys | 20:27 |
| nealmcb | Luke: thanks for pointing it out - I've just been lucky | 20:27 |
| Luke | I was assuming I changed a config somehwere and didn't know it | 20:27 |
| Luke | that's why I didn't look for bugs | 20:27 |
| Luke | reports* | 20:27 |
| nealmcb | 7: ksoftirqd/1 | 20:28 |
| nealmcb | but I guess if it was more common, there would be more activity and dups... at least it sends mail. though many people don't check their local root mail.... | 20:29 |
| Luke | yea my root mail gets delivered to my user for some reason | 20:30 |
| Luke | that's weird actually... is that supposed to happen? | 20:30 |
| soren | Oh, I think it might already be fixed in hardy. | 20:30 |
| Luke | well I've got too many channels open so I'm gunna close this. Thanks again for your help guys | 20:31 |
| soren | Yes, definitely already fixed in hardy. | 20:37 |
| Burgundavia | hey soren | 20:37 |
| soren | Hey, Corey. | 20:37 |
| nealmcb | howdy, Burgundavia | 20:38 |
| * soren is knackered | 20:38 | |
| soren | I'll call it a night. | 20:38 |
| soren | See you, guys! | 20:38 |
| * nealmcb remembers that Corey is the first uds-boston person he met - on the subway going there :-) | 20:38 | |
| Burgundavia | nealmcb: was boston your first summit? | 20:41 |
| nealmcb | yeah | 20:41 |
| nealmcb | though I called in to mountview and seville | 20:41 |
| Burgundavia | wow | 20:41 |
| nealmcb | (a bit) | 20:41 |
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