[00:00] DarkMageZ: .. but don't let that distract you. [00:34] * dantalizing is away: I'm busy [00:38] * dantalizing is back (gone 00:04:12) [01:00] pschulz01, what sort of ram do the perf nodes/test boxes use - ddr or ddr2? i was looking at http://www.educypedia.be/computer/memorycomparison.htm and it made me wonder [01:01] ddr2 (I think) [01:02] ok. [01:03] * Kamping_Kaiser goes to ask kim stuff [01:53] in order to install ubuntu via pxe booting, do I need to use the alternative disk? [01:53] it's not working with ubuntu desktop iso [01:53] and it does work with ubuntu server iso [02:16] i think you need to create a custom image [02:49] dumb question - how do i find out if hardware is supported in the 2.6 kernel. every i find is from 1999-2003 for this card [02:59] nathan: yeah, you can't use the live cd [02:59] they tell you that somewhere in the wiki iirc [03:02] Bawbatos: what card are you talking about? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [03:03] that is the thing. it is token ring... [03:04] and i am trying to see where that is at. the linux tr project last update was in 2003 [03:04] so 2.3 kernel [03:04] http://www.linuxtr.net/index.html [03:05] Hi all .. I had a hard drive eat it, and eventually with the use of dd_rescue obtained a partial .img file from it .. My question is now .. Is there something out there that can crack open this unfinished .img file so I can get at least some of the stuff out of it? (I googled how to open an img file and it was just picture stuff). [03:05] i mean i still see freaking decnet modules there.. [03:07] Bawbatos: I see them talking about token ring last year, so no reason to suppose that they've removed support.... http://lwn.net/Articles/213657/ [03:08] linux supports more hardware "out-of-the-box" than ANY other OS.... [03:09] that link does not say it has been removed [03:09] NineTeen67Comet: I'd guess you'd want to make a copy and loop-mount it [03:09] Bawbatos: right [03:10] nealmcb: Is that like .. mount -o loop /directory/with/backup.img .. ? [03:10] okay. so i found a driver for it. [03:10] /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/kernel/drivers/net/tokenring$ [03:10] and modprobed it. [03:11] but do not see it coming up [03:12] NineTeen67Comet: yeah - with a directory name at the end to mount on, and perhaps a -t option to specify the type [03:12] nealmcb: Okay .. I'm in Google now to get the syntax right .. thanks for the direction hopefully it'll mount since it isn't a finished .img file. [03:13] NineTeen67Comet: good luck - I know that can be a scary place :-O [03:13] what is the apt package for the kernel source? [03:14] grin .. I'm more afraid of my wife if I can't recover some of the pictures .. hehehehe [03:14] "linux-source" is for the latest [03:14] or linux-source-2.6.22 for a particular one [03:15] nealmcb: what -t would an .img file be? The hdd it was made from was xfs .. but I told it to get ALL of sdd .. not just sdd1 .. [03:16] NineTeen67Comet: then you may need to specify the offset to the particular partition - since that is what you want to mount [03:16] aha .. okay .. I'll peek around for that .. [03:16] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:qemu#mounting_a_qemu_disk_image_on_the_host [03:17] fdisk -l file.img should help - see that post for more [03:19] tr0 Link encap:16/4 Mbps Token Ring (New) HWaddr 00:01:02:64:31:63 [03:19] thanks! [03:19] Bawbatos: cool [03:20] so it even came up as an inteface :-) [03:20] what module? [03:20] no, i had to do ifconfig tr0 up after the modprobe [03:20] 3c359 [03:21] i am building a ccie lab and got a bunch of routers that have tr interfaces plus enet for cheap. using the tr with a tr switch as a backend. [03:21] but i needed a box to route to the network [03:21] ccie? [03:21] a cisco cert [03:21] nice [03:21] http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/index.html [03:22] i was hoping to do it on my openbsd firewall but they pulled tr support in 4.2 [03:24] hum, how do i start it on boot now....there is a file for modprobe on boot .... sorry new to ubuntu. nice clean server install tho. impressed [03:28] /etc/network/interfaces === Bawbatos is now known as Bawbatos_Away [04:30] grumble .. I'm looking for a really inexpensive mobo/cpu combo for my server (Currently a very tired P4 1.3ghz, 256mb ram, 2x320gig hd, 1x40gig hd headless box .. That is stalling about every 5 minutes, then crashes all together every 12-15 hours .. No syslog errors or nothing .. === Bawbatos_Away is now known as Babatos [05:39] what file do i edit for having a module load at startup that is not autoloading.. [05:40] i have a nic that is not loading. [05:41] Babatos, /etc/modprobe* are the files [05:41] find the right one ;) [05:41] i saw that. however i did not see the right one. [05:42] Babatos, look at `man modprobe.conf`. not sure if it will help or not [05:43] Babatos: /etc/modules [05:54] ah, cool. i was loking in /etc/modprobe.d [06:10] crtl-alt-backspace should kill gdm right === lamont` is now known as lamont [06:15] Babatos: actually, it kills X, which is a parent of gdm, and therefore takes out gdm. [06:15] yah, thats what i mean. cept i have this issue. i killed it - and the screen still has the no signal on it. [06:15] boots till gdm starts then no pic. [06:16] ugh. [06:27] okay i have that fixed, and even have my token ring network up on ipv6 [06:28] is there a good gui for setting up this server as a firewall. i hate iptables and want it to die but i am going to use this in place of my openbsd [06:28] * Babatos crying [06:35] Babatos: If you want GUI help, see #ubuntu. [06:35] okay thanks. [06:35] i just cannot take iptable [06:37] iptables is hurt :( [06:37] *hugs iptables* [06:37] pf is just so much better [06:38] i have 3 freaking firewall certs from vendors and i cannot get my head around iptables [06:38] Babatos: That may be your problem. I started with a known working iptables script and adjusted to my taste. It didn't seem that hard. [06:39] no, it is way convoluted. [06:39] vs, pf, ipfw, ipf [06:39] OK. It's all I've used. It didn't seem that bad to me (with a base script to start with). [06:39] have you ever seen pf [06:40] Nope. [06:40] So I've got no basis for comparison. [06:40] ah, well - pass in inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state [06:41] or block drop in quick on $ext_if from [06:41] pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port ssh \ [06:41] flags S/SA keep state \ [06:41] (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) [06:41] and that is the 2 most complex things you will see. and it makes sense out the gate [06:42] someone told me to look at firestarter so i will do that [06:43] I've heard good things about it, but never used it. [06:43] have a look at this - http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1470 [06:43] and tell me you cannot figure it out in like 30 secs [06:47] Babatos: Not at 2AM I can't. I can see it's generally readable. [06:47] haahah... okay [06:47] only 1047 here. [08:05] whats wmvare?? [08:20] vmware? or wmvare? [08:20] !vmware [08:20] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers [08:21] ok so jeos is a basic distro that includes vmware player? [08:22] no, its to run inside vmware player [08:22] !jeos [08:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [08:22] aha... thanks.. whats the size of this distro? [08:23] and what packages does it include? [08:23] ubotu, JEOS is the latest addition to the Ubuntu family. It is designed for running inside VMWare and other virtualisation tools like QEMU. [08:23] the iso ~150mb [08:23] and its a bare minimum packages (or should be, its getting thinner for the next release) [08:23] so i guess there is no X.. [08:24] correct [08:25] thanks.. [08:26] np [08:29] so near, yet so far. *grin*. someone from -ops contacted me, checked i was talking about ubuntu's jeos, then didnt set the bot entry :( [08:29] !jeos [08:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [08:29] :( [08:33] pity i dont go there anymore, i'd follow up *heh* [11:56] would you guys say that a celeron 300 is underpowered to run a LAMP stack? [11:56] right now mine is running one with 96mb ram, every time i make changes on wordpress i can smell a little blue smoke :) [12:09] BobSapp: Unless you've got a heavy load of visitors I'd say a 300mhz is plenty enough to run a LAMP on. Perhaps you might want to add som extra RAM thought. [12:19] yeah it was thrashing on any page actionr [13:07] greetings [13:53] hi === ember_ is now known as ember [15:45] (feisty server) i have two NICs and they keep swapping their ethX number after each reboot. how do i make the X static? i know i am supposed to use some z25 + udev config file, but my /dev/ directory doesn't have anything like that. [15:47] sorry, found it. /etc/udev/rules === DM| is now known as DM|istakingashow === DM|istakingashow is now known as DM|takingashower === DM|takingashower is now known as DM| [19:16] hi can anybody help me [19:18] I'm getting these emails from cron every day. Can anyone help me pinpoint the problem?: http://pasteosaurus.com/44191 [19:29] Luke: /etc/cron.daily/find quits with error status 1 instead of 0 [19:41] yea but why? === juliux_ is now known as juliux [20:08] Luke: have you looked at /etc/cron.daily/find ? it appears that perhaps you don't have a userid "nobody" if yours is like mine [20:17] nealmcb: i have that user [20:17] * nealmcb wonders why that script is checking for nobody anyway.... [20:17] also if that was where the exit 1 was coming from, i'd assume it would put the output line in there as well right? [20:18] Luke: hmm - can you try running the update command given there? [20:18] updatedb* [20:18] yea i'll try that [20:19] how do I check the exit status from bash prompt? [20:19] and I agree, it would probably output that error message - but sometimes cron and stdout are strange [20:19] echo $? [20:19] that it the exit status from the previous command [20:19] yea that db line is exiting w/ 1 [20:19] any output? don't redirect it... [20:19] Luke: Did you change /etc/updatedb.conf at all? [20:20] i'll cehck that [20:20] soren: not that I know of [20:20] no i haven't [20:20] "ioprio_set: No such process [20:20] " [20:20] that's the error [20:21] maybe from ionice? [20:21] piping the errors to dev null seems like a bad idea =) [20:21] nealmcb: yea totally [20:21] what is that tho? [20:21] try leaving just the "ionice -c ${IONICE_CLASS:-2} -p ${IONICE_PRIORITY:-7} " part out and run again [20:22] i.e. run updatedb via nice [20:23] permission denied bu tit runs [20:23] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/findutils/+bug/152692 [20:23] Launchpad bug 152692 in findutils "updatedb cron job fails" [Low,Triaged] [20:23] hmm [20:23] thanks [20:23] Is this on gutsy? [20:23] yea [20:24] ohh - ugly - why is it "low" priority? [20:24] prob in case the server is doing anything else [20:24] ooh you mean the bug [20:24] haha [20:24] no - the bug is "low" [20:25] yup - I've got a process number 7 also.... [20:25] runs fine w/ the given patch [20:26] looks like they just fudged the flags [20:26] you changed your cron script? good [20:26] yea [20:27] I'll fix it in hardy. [20:27] if 30% of machines out there aren't getting updated slocate stuff, that seems like a problem [20:27] soren: :-) [20:27] ha totally [20:27] thanks for helping me find this guys [20:27] Luke: thanks for pointing it out - I've just been lucky [20:27] I was assuming I changed a config somehwere and didn't know it [20:27] that's why I didn't look for bugs [20:27] reports* [20:28] 7: ksoftirqd/1 [20:29] but I guess if it was more common, there would be more activity and dups... at least it sends mail. though many people don't check their local root mail.... [20:30] yea my root mail gets delivered to my user for some reason [20:30] that's weird actually... is that supposed to happen? [20:30] Oh, I think it might already be fixed in hardy. [20:31] well I've got too many channels open so I'm gunna close this. Thanks again for your help guys [20:37] Yes, definitely already fixed in hardy. [20:37] hey soren [20:37] Hey, Corey. [20:38] howdy, Burgundavia [20:38] * soren is knackered [20:38] I'll call it a night. [20:38] See you, guys! [20:38] * nealmcb remembers that Corey is the first uds-boston person he met - on the subway going there :-) [20:41] nealmcb: was boston your first summit? [20:41] yeah [20:41] though I called in to mountview and seville [20:41] wow [20:41] (a bit)