[00:01] pr0n? [00:01] media mainly for the home. I may set up an ftp server on it though. [00:02] ha of course pron included [00:02] * thyrax is not ashamed to admit it [00:03] nice that sounds loke some good stuff to host [00:03] i wouldnt be ashamed to admit it either [00:04] lol my girlfriend likes porn too so it's win win [00:05] I only have about 80gigs of porn so its a very small fraction of my media. I get all the porn channels for free though. due to my leet satellite skills. [00:05] XD [00:06] hahahah i wish i had some skills liek thoze [00:06] one day my apprentice. one day.... [00:06] i have to search hard on the internet for it [00:06] hhahaha [00:07] lol the internet is basically pron itself [00:07] you should give me a way to get at all that media goodness [00:07] >:D [00:08] I may upgrade my connection to 10down 1 up so we can make deal you provide som of that spare hdd goodness and ill trade you some gigabytes [00:08] media goodness is a good way to describe it [00:09] i could hook you up with my spare 20gigs or less drives [00:09] yep sure is. I guessed how much pron I have I am really not sure I have so much stuff scattered across many hard drives. one I set up this array it will be organised. [00:09] evil_tech that's what I was talking about ;) [00:10] any of you guys own an xbox360 by any chance? [00:10] I was wondering if there was an easy way to set up ubuntu to work with it [00:10] If not ill just stick with xbmc till xbmc linux is done [00:11] and hopefully the ps3 when it gets divx support they will add .mkv and .ogm support as well [00:12] thyrax, a few days ago i heard someone saying they had ubuntu installed on an xbox [00:13] i have not the slightest clue as to how they did it though [00:13] hmm i might have to try raid arrays [00:13] ive gotta bunch of scsi drives [00:14] soldats: it's not very function on the xbox360 but I'm sure it will work on the original xbox I run xbmc on that though. [00:15] evil_tech: I have some scsi drives what do I need to interface them with a pc? [00:15] an appropriate scsi card [00:15] I toook them out of a compaq array not sata but scsi [00:15] took* [00:15] what does the connection on the drive look like [00:15] can you send me a link? [00:15] it's long [00:16] like an oversized IDE connector [00:16] hold on a sec let me take a glance at it [00:16] thyrax, thats cool i only heard that someone had it. [00:16] its not sata [00:16] yes [00:16] then you need a 50pin scsi card [00:16] wait [00:16] 1 sec [00:16] ok [00:17] all right its like a long sata [00:17] very long [00:17] pic? [00:17] I'll take a quick pic and upload it 1 sec [00:17] ok [00:18] if its what i think it is that plugs into a backplane [00:22] crap it did [00:23] but I took it apart [00:26] it look like this [00:26] http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=22-116-001-02.jpg&Image=22-116-001-01.jpg%2c22-116-001-02.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=1&Description=Fujitsu+36.7GB+3.5%22+SCSI+Ultra320+68pin+Hard+Drive [00:26] or like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=22-116-002-02.jpg&Image=22-116-002-01.jpg%2c22-116-002-02.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=1&Description=Fujitsu+36.7GB+3.5%22+SCSI+Ultra320+80pin+Hard+Drive [00:27] dangit thats huge should have pastebin that [00:27] sorry [00:27] Not really big, lol [00:28] Besides, it isn't like this is an overly high traffic channel [00:28] :] [00:28] * somerville32 hugs evil_tech [00:28] tell that to TheSheep [00:28] :D [00:28] somerville32, thats why i perfer this channel [00:29] i get lost in #ubuntu [00:29] :) [00:29] no evil it doesn't [00:29] yes it seems to me that people in this channel are more gracious for the help they get [00:30] trying to dcc send it [00:31] so it looks like a oversized IDE [00:31] no [00:31] more like an over sized sata [00:31] im sending it says awaiting reply [00:32] i dont know if you can send me files. im using irssi [00:33] oh [00:33] irssi should support files as far as i know [00:33] it says timed out ill upload it whats a quick omage upload site? [00:33] image* [00:34] photobucket [00:34] actually what does the label on the drive say [00:34] we can look it up that way [00:34] probably easier and faster [00:34] wooooo hooo ups girl ust brought my last 500gig drive! [00:34] sweetness!!! [00:34] :D [00:35] was she a babe [00:35] ill upload this pic then open it up :) that makes 5x500gig hdd goodness :D [00:35] geeze thats a lot of gigs [00:35] she was ok my girlfriend is hotter though. [00:35] cool lucky you [00:35] lol i was thinking the same thing [00:36] hahah [00:36] how much did you pay each for them 500gigs [00:38] well I already had 3 so I just bought two more [00:39] 2 of them were full so now I have 3 empty [00:39] wd5000aaks [00:39] http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9149/mycompaqscsidriveve5.jpg [00:39] thats the drive i was talking about not the wd5000aaks [00:40] I have 14 of those scsi drives 18g each not sure what I need to use them though pulled them out of a compaq array [00:40] hmm that looks like 80 pin scsi [00:40] arent those around 65 dollars [00:40] which the scsi drive I just posted? [00:40] dunno if they make cards with those connectors or just backplanes [00:40] I still have the backpane was hoping I could find some other way to hook it up [00:41] i think that specific connector is used for backplanes only. not 100% on that though [00:41] not even 10% [00:41] i think they make adapter back to 68pin though [00:41] then you could hook it up via a normal 68pin scsi card [00:42] hmmm [00:42] well they have been sitting here for ages [00:43] I got the array off ebay [00:44] i'd google for a scsi card for it with the numbers off the drive [00:44] there has to be some way to interface those without a backplane [00:44] that's what ill no rush :) [00:44] ill do*^ [00:45] i need to hunt around my shop for a case to shove the 4 4.5gb and 3 9gig scsi i have around here into [00:46] why are there so many different scsi connections [00:46] different speeds [00:47] when you mount a raid array does it matter where you mount it? [00:48] I mounted my raid 1 aray in the mnt folder [00:48] http://distance-ed.bcc.ctc.edu/cs110rh/IT217/week05/25_SCSI.htm [00:48] and I need to launch nautilis as root to access it [00:49] so mines sca80? [00:49] think so [00:51] there are a number of different converters [00:51] the thing is its only approx 252gigs unformatted [00:51] so I might sell or trade them to some one that has more use for them [00:53] that could work [00:53] dang it the only case that will fit 7 drives is already in use [00:53] Hi...people in #ubuntu told me to install Xubuntu because of my low-end system (P3 1GHz, 256mb of RAM). I was wondering what would change exactly between Gnome and XCFE? Wikipedia doesn't dwell on it. [00:54] Rafabe: the thing that seems to be noted most frequently here is the lack of integrated network browsing [00:55] Rafabe, nothing much everythign should be almost the wame [00:55] not sure what you mean...can you give me an example? [00:55] compiz is finicky as well though i doubt you're that interested given the specs [00:55] Good evening [00:55] same [00:55] hello [00:55] is there here samebody from brazil? [00:56] no sorry [00:56] nope [00:56] not I [00:56] Rafabe, i have the same system as you do [00:56] wth gnome, you can browse windows system and access smb-based shares... xfce doesn't include any network clients... if you want to access something you would need to mount it in a cli [00:56] i am really interested in into xubuntu project in Brazil... [00:56] ah, that's something I would be interested in, because I move files a lot between our computers [00:57] ok, my english isn't good [00:57] in fact I was hoping this computer would act as a media center, but also a file share location [00:57] do you think I'm better off going for an older Ubuntu? [00:57] Rafabe, i used ubuntu for a long time and i had no problem with it but i switched to xubuntu because my comp ran faster with it [00:57] i do a lot of graphics editing [00:57] the system requirements dont change a whole lot [00:58] and your specs should be able to run ubuntu [00:58] i might up the ram to 512 [00:58] not worth it to upgrade this PC [00:58] but it should be fairly usable [00:58] yes 512 is geed enough for ubuntu [00:58] allright [00:58] you in the WA area [00:58] thanks for your help [00:58] no, Quebec [00:58] i could hook oyu up with some SDRAM [00:58] >:D [00:58] thanks for the offer [00:58] np [00:59] Rafabe: I thing that older ubuntu wont faster [00:59] evil_tech, damn i wish you were in the az area i need some badly and im outta cash [00:59] just will old [00:59] gomex: not faster, but it would have the network features [00:59] lol [00:59] Rafabe: like what? [00:59] i personally only have a few 256 sticks lying about the house [00:59] having a file share between multipel computers [01:00] should test them though before offering them to folks [01:00] brb [01:00] you could try getting some for cheap off ebay or craigslist [01:00] Rafabe: it is sambam correct? [01:00] Rafabe, if you want nice looking network features stay with ubuntu "gnome" if you want a faster system go with xubuntu [01:00] samba, sorry... [01:00] yea ive looked nothing is of interest [01:01] Rafabe: i have Xubuntu 7.10 and have shared file options [01:01] i think i'll try 7.04 (because I already have the CD, as well as 7.10), then if I feel it's too slow I'll go for Xubuntu 7.10 [01:01] can't download Xubuntu until monday anyway [01:01] you could try getting rid of unneeded background apps in ubuntu [01:01] Rafabe, i dont think either one is slow in accordance of each other but chose what is comfortable for you and stick with it [01:02] thanks for your advice, guys [01:03] soldats: i am not understand what he wanted [01:03] :) [01:03] he needed samba support for sharing info between a linux machine and windows [01:03] all ubuntu have the shared file options, no? [01:04] it is samba, no? [01:04] and gnome ou xfce has interface for it [01:05] yes he needed samba, the file manager doesnt have support for it but you can still do it if you now how to use ssh [01:06] if you make a file or folder shared over a netowrk you can view it from a windose comp [01:06] yes... [01:06] i know that [01:06] for more info see /usr/share/xubuntu-docs [01:07] so... [01:07] Gomex, hah i dodnt mea to directr it to you i meant if fot rafabe [01:07] ok... [01:07] !br [01:07] Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [01:07] does this help [01:08] soldats: cant i stay here? [01:08] ok... [01:08] bye! [01:08] yes you can but i thought you wanted brazil support [01:08] soldats: I dont need support... [01:09] you are more than welcome to stay here [01:09] no now... [01:09] but i want try to talk in english more, i know? [01:09] you know* [01:09] ok cool [01:09] no problem [01:10] i will try to help in translate xfce [01:10] to portuguese [01:11] that would be very nice for you to do [01:11] yes! [01:11] i know that... [01:11] because it i will try... [01:11] i am tired that just take something, i want help now... [01:13] cool, helping always seems to make me you feel better. [01:13] i am fell better now... [01:14] i help to change the wiki page the Xubuntu-br project [01:14] i improve somethings [01:14] and translate others.. [01:15] look... [01:15] http://wiki.ubuntubrasil.org/Xubuntu-BR [01:15] these novell mac pc ads are hilarious [01:18] now I need to unmount my raid array [01:19] do I just run sudo umount /mnt/md0? [01:19] I just want to do everything riht [01:19] if thats where its mounts [01:19] right* [01:19] you can also umount by device name [01:19] and is mnt the best place to mount a raid array thats where I put it yesterday and needed to be root to access the folder [01:20] if I unmount it will it automaticaly be removed from fstab? [01:20] and I put the mount in fastab but not mtab yesterday what would putting it in mtab do? [01:20] i've no clue what mtab does [01:20] fstab entry will make it mount on boot [01:21] and i would put it in /media/ [01:21] since thats where most devices get mounted [01:21] that's what one tutorial said the other did mnt i thought it logical to do mnt why media? [01:21] and will it show up on the desktop? [01:21] hmm [01:22] thats a good question [01:22] i think you have to make a link for it on the desktop [01:22] ok well thats not iportant now just wondering [01:22] and like i said /media is where most drives get mounterd [01:22] mounted [01:22] why media? [01:22] will I need to be root to acces my drive it I mount it there? [01:23] if* [01:23] not if you set it up right in fstab [01:23] i believe there are options to mount it as user [01:23] and the location of the mount doesn't make a difference? [01:23] evil_tech: yes, user is the option that anyuser can mount and umount [01:24] mounting in a place like var doesn't automatically make it available to all users? [01:24] just dont mount it where somthing else mounts [01:24] that would be bad [01:24] hmmm [01:24] I can always unmount it and remount it right? [01:24] yeah [01:24] how familiar are you with the way the mdadm.conf works? [01:24] 0 [01:25] no clue [01:25] havent messed with linux raid in almost a year [01:25] lol ok [01:25] and it was only a one class time thing [01:25] im used to my pseudo hardware raid [01:25] heh [01:28] any reason why I should not use gnome? [01:28] this is #xubuntu [01:28] :) [01:28] whats the easiest way to format a hdd in linux? [01:29] yeah so talk me out of it [01:29] mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc3 [01:29] think you have to sudo that [01:29] why hdc3 and not just hdc? [01:29] cause you cant format a device [01:30] you have to format a partition [01:30] I see [01:30] there are other format options too [01:31] mkfs --help gives a list [01:31] here is my plan: umount my raid array. edit fstab to deleted the entry for md0 and then format the two drives in raid 1 [01:31] and then create raid 5from scratch? [01:32] so right now they are in RAID 1 [01:32] yes just 2 [01:32] youre going to break the raid format the drives and then build a raid 5 array [01:33] I was going to over write the raid 1 metadata with raid 5 and have a 2drive raid5 array and grow that but now my drive is here I have 3 empty drives [01:33] yes [01:33] yeah i would do it that way [01:33] Thats what I need to do. right now I have a really happy raid 1 array mounted in mnt folder [01:33] unmount that [01:34] you have to break the raid though [01:34] which (someone please please correct me if i am wrong) you do by deleting md0 [01:34] before I do that I am going to experiment and overwrite the meta data to see start the convert raid 1 to raid 5 trick just for educational purposes :) [01:34] hmmm [01:34] how do I delete md0 [01:35] sudo rm /dev/md0 [01:35] i think [01:35] and i would get confirmation that you need to do that [01:35] i'm running on best guess and my crappy memory from a 1 1/2 hour class on this [01:36] if i had my nix bible id look it up [01:37] its cool I'll google it [01:37] or consult one of the 20tuts I have bookmarked [01:37] cause just cause its not mounted it still acts like a raid array until you get rid of md0 [01:37] maybe there is an mdadm command [01:50] sudo mdadm --stop /dev/md0 forgot about that. shold do that before unmounting [01:50] tut I found --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=394281 [01:52] bookmarked [01:58] very helpful just remember to unmount the array before trying to stop it or it will just say busy till you unmount it [01:59] at this rate ill be able to add linux guru to my resume :) [01:59] oooo 750gb WD only 150 [01:59] How do I get on to a wireless network that doesn't use encryption? [01:59] lol I just saw that they added the unmount part at the bottom [02:00] 750 for 150 not bad [02:00] not bad at all [02:00] can't wait till the tb are 200 or below :) [02:00] that's when I'll be ready to start my secondary server :) [02:01] if i didnt have a mortgage i could afford about 5 of those [02:01] hmm [02:02] i could save 150 a month and have them before summer. 1tb will probably be at that price poinr [02:03] mmm 4 terabytes [02:04] all my movies playable at the click of an icon [02:05] you all have a good weekend [02:06] thats the plan === XwarlokX83 is now known as XwarlokX82 [02:21] howdy. is there a recommended backup software for xubuntu in small businesses? [02:27] none I can think of but I'm relatively new to linux [02:28] keb: http://www.bacula.org/ [02:29] of course linux doesnt crash so we don't need backups :P [02:29] keb: it work with Windows too [02:30] thanks. i tried bacula source compile and it didnt work. i will try the distro version isntead [02:30] hum.. [02:31] what was that problem to work with source? [02:31] when i run the bacula-dir script to check the config file, it just hangs [02:32] all the other ones come back right away with no errors [02:32] man [02:32] i need to go... [02:32] godpseed [02:32] *godspeed [02:32] i talk to you latter [02:52] i know there was some people a few days ago or a week ago who wanted to know how to map the "win" key to open the accessories button and couldnt figure out how to do it. so i figured out a way to do it and it works so if this is something that you would like to do let me know. for some reason i havent had internet service for a few days so i havent gotten back to a few people [02:53] maybe you could add it to the wiki somewhere [02:53] i always try to get keyboards without that MS key [02:53] do you know the main page to the wiki [02:53] im not sure of it [02:54] i was talking to nantrax about it a few days ago [02:58] maybe this page is where it would go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InputDevices [03:02] cool i will check it ou [03:02] out* [03:15] heh [03:15] I setup my WIN key for a hot key [03:15] WIN + anykey does something [03:16] you have an anykey? :o [03:16] WIN - make volume lower [03:16] anykey [03:16] WIN + makes volume higher [03:16] WIN t brings up thunar [03:17] WIN r brings up a rubiks cube [03:17] heh [03:17] WIN key wasnt doing anything else really [03:17] so i bound stuff to it [03:17] Catoptromancy, can you solve the cube without the need for a program [03:18] its not a solving program [03:18] what is it [03:18] its just a GL cube to solve [03:18] im just wondering [03:18] cool i love solving the cube how would get this "said" program [03:19] hold on [03:19] its source only, but its really cool and basic [03:22] rubix-1.0.5.tar.bz2 [03:22] thats what I built it from [03:23] http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/7641/snapshot21kw4.png [03:23] hehe [03:25] oh cool so it lets you solve it through a program, i used to use one of those on a web page based on java [03:25] it was really neat [03:25] ya this is about the same [03:25] probably works faster [03:26] it starts solved, but just click a dozen times and move mouse around [03:26] its messed up [03:27] thats cool. i always have my cube next to my mouse and i solve it when im bored [03:27] ill look into that program it looks sweet [03:27] www.sed.free.fr/rubix/ [03:27] it what the help screen says [03:28] Erreur 404 - Document non trouvé [03:28] I found it randomly on google [03:28] rubix-1.0.5.tar.bz2 [03:38] cool, ill check it out. i was wondering do you own a cube, and if you do what is your fastest time solving it [03:39] just curious because i was into it heavaly a while back and im out of the loop as to wat peoples times are now [03:44] heh i dont speed cube [03:45] takes me like ahile [03:45] been working on some strategy and actually figure out a fast way [03:45] oh i was just wondering i still think its really cool that you have learned how to solveit [03:46] soldats are you familiar with linux raid? [03:46] i didnt really learn [03:46] just kinda trial error, and manged [03:48] I am wondering how exact a partition needs to be to be in a raid array. hopefully not to the byte. and mdadm corrects for this. [03:49] hmm [03:49] i didnt specify to the byte [03:49] i think it was in MB [03:49]