[00:53] back [00:54] CheGuevara: any luck? [00:54] just got back ima try the gutsy package in a min [01:01] right lets see [01:01] brb [01:02] s [01:02] * mhb sleeps === cheguevara is now known as CheGuevara [01:08] fontconfig-config [01:08] reverting that to gutsy fixes it [01:11] Riddell, u around [01:41] how would I extract the string 2 out of Number=2 without using kreadconfig? [01:52] red_team316: python? [01:52] yes [01:52] red_team316: "string.split[:-1]" [01:53] (if its only a single digit#) [02:15] thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I think this works better for what I need though [02:15] blastr = 'Number=2' [02:15] print string.strip(blastr, "Number=") [02:15] yup :D [02:15] red_team316: i'd do string.split('=')[1] [02:15] but that works too [02:16] well all of the stuff I'll be reading wont all be integers [02:20] hmm it works ok but the output is ['Number', '2']. Is this creating an array(c terminology) [02:24] red_team316: "bleh, whatIWant = function" [02:24] then just use "what I want" [02:27] ok if I changed the number to 3, how would I write that back to the same file so that the line reads "Number=3" but any other information in the file is still there? [02:28] my goal is to read/write values to kde rc files without relying on kde(so it will work on a ubuntu/xubuntu/etc) [02:34] red_team316: go read the python docs on file.seek() [02:35] I usually read the whole file in a variable, split the variable on newlines, modify the single lines and then write back the variable with the modified lines [02:35] ehm [02:35] can I change nick for the last time? XD [02:40] I'm looking in the python-doc global module index, cant find it :/ [02:45] red_team316: its a built in function.... [02:45] look in the tutorial === cheguevara is now known as Che|sleep [10:57] so.. doesn't the new flashplayer work with konq at all? or is it just me? === uga|away is now known as uga [12:05] in gutsy? works for me [12:05] except that nspluginviewer still occasionally eats cpu like nothing [12:26] stdin: ping [12:26] Hobbsee: pong [12:26] stdin: did anyone else review your meta-kde package? [12:27] Hobbsee: Riddell and jpatrick both looked at it [12:27] stdin: right, cool. [12:27] Accepting Results: [12:27] OK: meta-kde4 [12:28] stdin: can you remind me to get that sent to universe tomorrow? [12:28] Hobbsee: sure [12:28] thanks [12:30] hi [13:27] hi there [13:27] hey [13:28] anyone tested latst kde4 packages ? [13:28] RC1? [13:28] xorg hangs for me when kwin starts, fglrx 8.43 driver [13:28] nosrednaekim: yep [13:28] I tried rc1 for an hour, after that I went back to kde3. [13:29] seems to work for some people with opensuse, so I was wondering if I missed something in the configuration [13:29] Worked for me with fglrx though, but I'm using radeonhd at the moment. [13:29] Tonio_: same driver, and it works for me [13:30] nosrednaekim: damn..... [13:30] maybe something specific to my card btw [13:30] Tonio_: do you have dbus-x11 installed? [13:30] nosrednaekim: anything special in your xorg.conf file ? [13:30] nosrednaekim: I do [13:30] Tonio_: no.... except I got rid of the no-composite section [13:31] nosrednaekim: means removed the option "composite" "0" ? [13:31] yeah [13:31] nosrednaekim: what about the DRI section ? [13:31] still mode 666 in there ? [13:31] yeah [13:32] is AIGLX activated in ServerLayout ? [13:32] ho can be that too, what modules are loaded in the Modules section ? [13:32] Tonio_: well, AIGLX works, so I would assume so, though I didn't change anything. [13:33] I just have glx and extmode in there [13:33] I don't even have a modules section ;p [13:33] ah.....; [13:34] let's make another test, I changed a few things [13:34] basically its just a keyboard, a mouse, a video card, a monitor and a screen sections [13:35] I dropped the monitor section on mine. [13:35] Keyboard, mouse, touchpad, video card, screen, and serverlayout to put it together. [13:36] oh yeah... I do have a server layout.. [13:36] <_< [13:36] nosrednaekim: no still hangs xorg for me [13:36] maybe some card specific issue with aigls [13:36] nosrednaekim: I have a X1600 chip.... [13:36] I have an Xpress1100 [13:37] http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/2565 [13:37] nosrednaekim: does anything in there seem do be wrong for you ? [13:37] Screen contains 'Virtual 4096x4096' for xrandr 1.2. :-) [13:38] ho, just for information, I have no problem without opengl support, kwin then works [13:39] mlankhorst: what the problem is with xrandr ? [13:39] whats the "group 0" doing in DRI? [13:40] nosrednaekim: hum I don't know, but btw shouldn't change anything on that point [13:40] nosrednaekim: removed, and now testing [13:40] Tonio_: Biggest problem is that kubuntu's xrandr program has a bug that is fixed in git, it made it not work. Took some digging through radeonhd mailing list to figure it out. ;-) [13:42] nosrednaekim: bah same problem with me [13:42] mlankhorst: you where talking about xrandr, was that about my config file ? [13:42] nosrednaekim: I must say I'm a bit lost..... I see no reason it wouldn't work as expected... [13:42] nosrednaekim: especialy since I got it to work in the pase on that poinr [13:42] point [13:43] Tonio_: you catching any errors? [13:43] Tonio_: Biggest problem is that kubuntu's xrandr program has a bug that is fixed in git, it made it not work. Took some digging through radeonhd mailing list to figure it out. ;-) [13:43] mlankhorst: oki but why would that work or some other people then ? [13:43] ;) [13:44] mlankhorst: hardy bug ? then I may have to wait for another package then ? [13:44] mlankhorst: and if so, how to disable xrandr to perform opengl only effects in kde4 ? [13:44] mlankhorst: I think that's possible right ? [13:45] mlankhorst, nosrednaekim: [13:45] kwin --replace [0.22 0.46 - 24% 3%] [13:45] kwin(28040) KWin::Extensions::init: Extensions: shape: 0x "11" composite: 0x "4" render: 0x "a" fixes: 0x "40" [13:45] kwin(28040) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detect: glx version is 1 . 2 [13:45] here is the kwin-kde4 output [13:45] Tonio_: does that work? [13:46] Tonio_: xrandr 1.2 isn't available for fglrx anyway. [13:47] nosrednaekim: no it doesn't work at all [13:47] xorg hangs, mouse works, but keyboard is dead [13:47] and cpu is going to 70% for xorg and the other 30% for kwin [13:47] all I can do is then killing my kde session [13:47] nothing special in the logs [13:47] Tonio_: winder if there is a way to disable composite for kwin [13:48] nosrednaekim: bah I don't want to disable it, I want it to work ;) [13:48] hey [13:48] or at least understand what the issue is [13:48] Tonio_: now I'm ready to test the issue with two prompt [13:49] Serega: kdesudo ? super :) [13:49] Tonio_: aha :) could you remind me the URL? [13:49] Tonio_: I hear ya.... the problem is you can't really complain to #kde4-devel cause you are on RC1. [13:50] I know :) [13:50] nosrednaekim: I'll wait a bit, hopefully that'll be fixed soon [13:50] Serega: http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp [13:51] RC2 should be coming out soon. [13:51] Serega: but wait a second, I have a new package version [13:51] Tonio_: ok, I got 404 on this [13:51] Serega: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp [13:51] Serega: grab and test and tell me that works, even if it doesn't ;) [13:51] Tonio_: ok ;) [13:52] Tonio_: should I uninstall anything before? [13:52] Serega: no just install the new package [13:53] Tonio_: BTW, i'm running the RC1 permanantly because kde3 blew up on me... [13:53] nosrednaekim: shut up !!!!!!!! [13:53] * Tonio_ is jalous [13:53] * Tonio_ goes crying in his bed [13:54] ;) [13:54] ha.... well, all I can say is I envy YOU. [13:54] Tonio_: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs4c2a" [13:54] Tonio_: where to get the one? [13:54] KDE4 is not the most productive environment [13:54] Serega: ah......; I built that one for hardy [13:54] Tonio_: I have KDE4 RC1 installed [13:54] I can test in on livecd [13:55] Serega: well I can send you the source package so that you can build it yourself no ? [13:55] Tonio_: yes, of course :) [13:55] just deploy [13:57] Serega: same url, you'll got the source package [13:58] Tonio_: orig + diff? [13:59] Serega: orig + diff + dsc [13:59] then dpkg-source -x *.dsc [13:59] then apt-get build-dep kdesudo [13:59] and to finish, do in the unpacked sources and type debuild [14:00] Tonio_: thanks, exactly what I was going to ask ;) [14:00] and then sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb [14:00] and that's it [14:00] hiyaaa, I started to study the packaging! [14:02] Serega: well debuild is more or ocal testing than building real packages [14:02] Serega: then pdebuild is the key [14:02] but for testing debuild is enough imho === _czessi is now known as Czessi [14:22] It's a horror... sudo debuild uses system-wide locale ignoring my and root's ~/.profile :-\ [14:22] personally I wouldn't and dont' use sudo debuild [14:27] jpatrick: I just wonder of locale origin [14:31] fuck... it rages me [14:46] Tonio_: I can't build the package "dpkg-source:unrepresentable changes to source \n debuild: fatal error at line 1247 [14:46] Tonio_: am I wrong anywhere? [14:47] Serega: you should have a .*.swp vim created file, can you see it ? [14:47] find . -name "*swp" -exec rm -rf {} \; [14:47] Serega: try that and retry the build [14:48] Tonio_: done, the same [14:49] find . -name "*gmo" -exec rm -rf {} \; [14:49] those files also can create the problem :) [14:50] Serega: looks strange that you have the problem building from the source package [14:50] Serega: lemme build you the gutsy package [14:50] I may have a gutsy chroot somewhere [14:50] Tonio_: PPA :D [14:51] Tonio_: I'll try. there was ./po/fr.gmo [14:51] Tonio_: deleted, but the same error [14:52] * Serega realy wants to help, not to poke :) [14:53] kdebase-workspace on amd64 died. [14:53] on ppa [14:58] any kde4 packages for me to test? (boring sunday ;) [14:59] buz: only RC1 [15:00] Serega: no chroot here, wait a second and I'll built it [15:00] Serega: then I'll give you gutsy package to test [15:01] Tonio_: thanks, sorry for discomfort [15:12] Serega: no pb, package building right now [15:13] :) [15:38] Serega: you can get the deb on the same page [15:43] * Serega was dinning [15:52] Tonio_: sorry, still 2 [15:53] Tonio_: I've even recently performed reboot [15:54] Serega: can you please remind me of the bug ? [15:54] Tonio_: recent survey: issue reproduces even when adept is already closed. possibly due to kdesud daemon [15:54] Serega: better report the bug on launchpad I'd say, so that I can fix it in the future [15:55] Serega: I can't recall what the bug is exactly, can you remind me of it ? [15:57] Tonio_: the promt "Removable media" on media plugging is duplicated (1 runs for my user, another for root) and I actually see 2 prompts [15:57] Tonio_: issue is linked with kdesudo [15:57] Serega: ah yes..... I can't reproduce that one.... [15:57] Serega: please report on launchpad so that we can see if people confirm or not on hardy [15:58] Tonio_: I can test it now on Hardy LiveDC. should I? [15:58] please do :) [16:05] Tonio_: all is ok in hardy =) [16:09] where to file bugs for kubuntu? here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug [16:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug [16:16] Serega: I don't kown exactly [16:16] Serega: maybe it is just local problem or something with dbus config or policy..... [16:16] Serega: hard to gues what the problem is without : [16:16] - confirmation it is for everyone [16:16] - detailled infromation concerning the system configuration [16:17] Tonio_: do not understand 2 last messages? do you want to know my PC configuration? [16:17] *first question mark is unneeded [16:19] jpatrick: I found some bugs in kubuntu hardy alpha 1, should it be also filed there? [16:20] Serega: I have to go, but yeah send that to me by email : tonio@ubuntu.com [16:20] Tonio_: do you worry bug is just hidden in hardy? [16:20] Tonio_: ok, good luck! [16:20] Serega: yes, and probably https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha1/Kubuntu/Feedback too [16:21] jpatrick: oh, nice, it is more specific :) [17:03] Hello all... I hate to bother anyone but I am new and frustrated with Kubuntu and the flashplayer and sound... Is there any one that can help me.. [17:04] I have been to flashplayer and downloaded there tar.gz file and followed all the directions and i see colored jigsaw puzzle pieces where there should be a video on discovery.com can someone help me? [17:05] TopAgent: can you not just install flashplayer-nonfree? [17:06] i guess I could try but I spent so much time on this already I'd like to know if it is the player or the sys? [17:07] TopAgent: wait it's call flashplugin-nonfree, it's from Adobe, should be everything you need [17:07] TopAgent: you may also want to install kubuntu-restricted-extras from multiverse [17:08] THATS what I need help with////// [17:08] can u walk me through it [17:09] how do I add them to the update manager [17:09] TopAgent: do "kdesudo kate" and uncomment (remove) the "#" in front of the "deb" on the line with "multiverse" in /etc/apt/sources.list [17:10] I think thats what I need to do because my desktop works fine but I installed fresh ubuntu on laptop yesterday and it doesnt work [17:12] TopAgent: you may also want to see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware [17:13] i'm not sure what to do... I opened a term. and signed in as root... kdesudo kate and gotkdesudo kate [17:13] there is no need to login as root [17:13] that's the point of kdesudo [17:14] ok untitles kate came up and there isnt anything in the window [17:15] TopAgent: hmm, if you want GUI look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu === Che|sleep is now known as CheGuevara [17:57] ok I have installed all the repositories that I can and now I have updated the system so it says upto date/ [17:57] i still need to know what i am missing... still the same when I go to discovery.com [17:59] !flash | TopAgent [17:59] TopAgent: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [18:00] !support [18:00] the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [18:09] hi i get kopete: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkopete.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN3KIO3Job9addSubjobEPS0_b when starting kopete-kde4 under hardy. is this a known problem? [18:33] where can I find the HotkeyResearch guys? [18:33] my laptop has special keys still not working :( [18:33] I ready to collect required info, but dunno where to send it [18:35] our guy is lure. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLaptopKeycodes [18:50] get ready to hate me in 5..4..3..2.. [18:53] hehe [18:53] NOTICE: 'sun-java6' packaging is maintained in the 'Svn' version control system at: [18:53] https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/svn/jdk-distros/trunk/linux/ubuntu/sun-java5 [18:54] interesting....sun-java6 is maintained in a directory called sun-java5 [18:54] that doesn't look right at all :) [18:56] perhaps not very clean. Are scripts used to facilitate separation? [18:58] it is loaded with stuff [19:03] sounds like you have a job ;p [19:06] woohoo, you hate me now! [19:06] (see planet for reason while you go get the gun) === apachelogger__ is now known as apachelogger [19:16] strange, no death threats yet [19:16] so what's up? [19:16] you're right, of course. === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [19:30] mhb: what happened? :) why should I hate you? O.o [19:32] Serega_: I wrote a critical blog post at planet.ubuntu.com, that's all. [19:33] he-he) [19:33] * Serega_ remembers Jucato [19:34] gg, simpson-like avo [19:37] mhb: +1 [19:37] :( [19:38] so many things should be done _BEFORE_ "kaffeine codecs autoinstallation" :-/ [19:39] Serega_: yeah, we have to stand on the shoulders of fat, smelly giants [19:40] :o) [19:42] Serega_: oh, by the way, if you have a registered nickname and your connection fails so that the original nick is still on freenode, you can use /msg nickserv ghost Serega yourpassword and it will kick it. [19:42] mhb: Martin, I'm not a fan of dwm or wmiim I just want more stability for _existing_ code before new feature implementation. Bugs are summarizing like a snowball [19:42] mhb: oh, RLY? === Serega_ is now known as Serega [19:43] here I am [19:43] :) [19:46] Serega: I understand, I just think sometimes, in order to produce better software, we have to stop and think "Is this feature so important that we can rationalize the slowdown of the app?" [19:46] Serega: of course, kaffeine codecs autoinstallation is one of the things that is definitely practical and won't slow Kaffeine much after first run, I expect [19:47] mhb: there is so many features much more importrant than stupid codecs... [19:47] mhb: please wait 2 minutes I go to my laptop [19:47] brb [19:54] mhb: on the other side, such approach is the main difference of ubuntu from debian. To be more innovative [19:57] Serega: innovation comes often at a price - if you innovate too much, your software gets bloated. [19:59] mhb: true. I think every community developer finds his own trade-off between innovacy and stability/code beauty/size [20:01] I'm not entirely happy with the upcoming KDE4 release - for me, I see new ways to write apps, but hundreds of unfinished things, like the Kickoff menu, or even the widget style is incomplete and not planned to be polished [20:02] furthermore I am pretty sure it is going to eat more memory and CPU cycles while offering flexibility which is worthless when I just want my web browser to work. [20:08] partially agree [20:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-7fdt7kMqc&feature=bz303 =) [20:09] just don't ignore WHAT he's downloading... =) [20:11] uga: his peer was in the same LAN =) [20:11] cheat [20:11] it sounds like so, hehe [21:48] anyone knows anything about "Kubuntu tutorials day"? [21:51] depends what you want to know === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose [22:34] what is the preferred method for installing KDE4 on gutsy? PPA or -backports? [22:36] LaserJock: they should both be the same [22:37] we only use PPA because backports is too slow [22:37] to compile [22:37] ok, I was wondering if PPA was depracted [22:47] Riddell: oh, I wanted to let you know, kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 still wants to overwrite files in kdebase-bin [23:27] gn8 [23:50] ping Riddell