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Dr_willisText based console/cli/dos is the next big thing.00:00
nevilleLol00:00
Dr_willisSaves on Power ussage. so its more 'green' for the planet.00:00
Dr_willisand GREEN CRT Serial terminal  will be comming out soon!00:00
nevillePlease stop it now00:00
rignesActually, it seems to be finally sinking in at Micro$oft that the cli isn't so terrible.  I mean, their implementation is still crappy, but at least it's there.00:00
nevilleI'll be all laughed out00:00
Dr_willis'floppy disks are more recycelable then usb drives'00:01
nevilleHahaha00:01
loungeExchange 2007 is CLI to even just change a mailbox limit :s00:01
rignesDon't get me started on that.  I wasted ages trying to figure out limits on Exchange 2007.00:01
rignesThe trouble is there are a zillion places to change the limits, and if you miss just one it defaults to the lowest.00:02
Dr_willisthat makes it more secure. :)00:02
Dr_williswho needs a variable set in just 1 place!00:02
rignes:P00:03
loungeyep, took me ages too to figure it, damm Micros~100:03
rignesI applaud them for seeing the light that is the cli, but there are certain things that should be in a gui front end on a mail server.  And I'd think changing message size limits would be one of them.  I mean, it seems like a fairly common tweak..00:04
penguini have a digital camera and when i upload the pics to my hdd it saves them with the .ppm file extenstion. what program can i use to convert these .ppm files to jpeg?00:05
rignesAnyway, enough microshaft talk for me here.  This is a Linux based channel after all. :D00:05
penguin!ppm00:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:05
penguin!.ppm00:05
rignesppmtojpeg I think.00:05
Dr_willisWhat are you trying to learn penguin ?00:06
Dr_willis!find ppm00:06
ubotuFound: libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx, mrwtoppm, mrwtoppm-data, mrwtoppm-gimp, mrwtoppm-utils (and 2 others)00:06
NickPrestapenguin, imagemagick has a nice utility called "convert"00:06
rignesOh yeah, there is that too.00:06
rignesman convert00:06
penguinDr_willis: im trying to convert .ppm inamges to jpeg images00:06
penguinNickPresta: is imagemagick available in the repos?00:06
NickPrestapenguin, yep00:07
Dr_willisyep. :) thats proberly the best tool for doind a lot of them00:07
mcrandelloI'm looking for information on putting a file in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe to ignore a device, anyone know if there's a guide anywhere on what I need to do to accomplish that?00:08
mcrandellogoogle failed me and the "preferences.fdi" doesn't have any info on making it ignore the device00:09
geniiFaceoff :)00:10
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Linux_GaloreI usually use gimp to change image file fromats myself00:16
Linux_Galoreformats*00:16
Zabulusok, i still need help, upgrading to gutsy didnt solve the problem00:20
Linux_GaloreZabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrad00:21
Linux_GaloreZabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade00:21
Linux_Galoreafter changing your sources file obviously00:22
Zabulusno...00:22
adamonline45Every time I open amarok it will seem to be loading, then the taskbar icon disappears and it doesn't start :(  What can I do?00:22
Zabulusdidnt get the chance, my mouse froze up before i could do anything00:22
Dr_willisrun it fron a ternubal and look for error messages00:23
Linux_GaloreZabulus: you dont need a mouse00:23
Zabulusi know, just makes things easier00:23
Linux_GaloreZabulus: login to t terminal no the desktop00:23
Linux_Galorenot*00:23
Zabuluswill that possibly stop my mouse from freezing up?00:24
Linux_GaloreZabulus: or press ctrl alt F1 at the login screen00:24
Dr_willisthis is a usb mouse?00:24
Zabulusyeah00:24
michael_I have a question about my flash drive:00:24
Dr_willisi would say to to the console and look at dmesg output - see if any messages are showingup about the mouse.  You can upgrade/edit the soruces totally from the console if need be00:24
michael_it used to come up when I plugged it in, and now I cant access it00:25
michael_it lights up, but no ones home00:25
adamonline45Dr_willis: Dang, now it won't even do what it WAS doing (showing the bouncy icon and a spot in the taskbar).  I ran top and killed 2 amarok processes just before trying to run it from a terminal...00:25
Linux_Galoremichael_: sound corrupted, have you tried it on another machine ?00:26
michael_yeah, my sound is currupted too  lol00:26
Linux_Galoremichael_: that is what happens when you remove a SD card without unmounting is usually00:26
adamonline45Dr_willis: My Adept Notifier isn't responding either... Hmm...00:27
Linux_Galoreit*00:27
DrUnKnMuNkY1hey everyone. my dsl connection seems to be dropping randomly about 5-6 times a day which is starting to get pretty annoying. does anyone know of any way to keep this from dropping?00:27
NickPrestaadamonline45, I sometimes notice that behavior (amarok won't start) but only after X crashes and there is a zombie-like process left over. I have to `killall amarok*` and then it works just fine.00:27
michael_yes, in fact it was being 'borrowed, by another machine00:27
michael_working fine in that machine (using Windows)..... I bring it to mine and nothing00:28
michael_its a flash drive00:28
adamonline45NickPresta: I just typed that and it said 'no process killed'...00:28
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Linux_GaloreNickPresta: two suggestions, rename the amorokrc  file in /home/user-name/.kde/share/config  to amarokrc-old and see if it fixes00:29
Linux_Galoreamarokrc  sorry00:30
adamonline45Linux_Galore: I just initiated a reboot, but if it's still happening (as it was with the LAST reboot) then I'll try that :)00:30
Linux_Galoreor just reinstall amarok ie remove it then install it again00:30
adamonline45Linux_Galore: That's doable.  I've seen a few means of removing with aptitude; which syntax would you recommend I use?00:31
Dr_willisremoving amarok will NOT clear out the users settings.. if those are the casuse of the problem00:31
adamonline45Dr_willis: Noted, ty00:32
michael_can anyone help me with a sound issue?00:32
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: thats why I suggested renaming the amarokrc file first00:32
Dr_willismake a new user. see if it works for them. if so that shows that its a setting issue00:32
XcellIs there a doctor in the house?00:32
michael_I get nothig but static00:33
Zabulusok, now that im on my kubuntu, what commands should i run after upgrading to gutsy?00:33
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: could also be a sql db error in the amorok setup hmm seen that before00:33
michael_I can hear the sound in the 'background', but masked with heavy static00:33
Linux_Galoremichael_: sound like you have mute on00:34
michael_I have SB Audigy 5.100:34
michael_no00:34
Linux_Galoremichael_: do you have on board sound ?00:34
Dr_willisHmm that card should be very well supported00:34
michael_everyone I talk to so far are stumped00:34
adamonline45Linux_Galore: Dr_willis: Ahh, cool, a second reboot fixed it!00:34
Dr_willisYou using the digital out?00:34
Linux_Galoremichael_: ie on board and the and a sb card00:34
michael_yes, do you think they are conflicting?00:35
Zabuluscan someone help me, my mouse keeps on freezing up, just upgraded to gutsy in hopes of abandoning the problem, but its followed me00:35
Linux_Galoremichael_: no, whats happening is the machine is defaulting to your on board sound00:35
Minatakuhttp://segakatana.com/images/hardware/dclp100/gdrom/test_ptn/pulse_s.bmp00:35
ShawnRiskI am not able to load the Monitor & Display module in the System Settings. Any ideas how to fix this?  USing Kubuntu.  the error message is: "the module Monitor & Display could not be loaded" and I searched google and got nowhere00:35
michael_I thought I disabled the onboard sound, but not willing to bet my life on it00:36
Zabulusgo to your bios and check00:36
Linux_Galoremichael_: oj type  asound list00:36
michael_I guess I will disable it in bios00:36
michael_oh ok00:36
Linux_Galoremichael_: you will see two sound card/chipsets listed00:37
michael_btw - i'm a newbie00:37
crackhead_25_anyone have thoughts on ktorrent? i keep getting an input/output error reading from the cache of a file being downloaded.. fix?00:37
adamonline45oh btw ty guys00:37
Linux_Galoremichael_:  now what we will do is tell the sound manager what we want to set as the default00:37
Dr_williscould remove the old data/cache00:37
michael_command not found00:37
Zabulusif anyone could help it would be greaty appreciated, mouse keeps on freezing up at random points, unplugging/replugging doesnt help, neither did upgrading to gutsy00:37
nick_for some reason konquer puts my tabs on the bottom instead of the top............... how do i fix this00:37
crackhead_25_Dr_willis: what do you mean? be more specific?00:38
Linux_Galoremichael_:  sorry  asoundconf  list00:38
michael_ahh k00:38
Dr_willisktorrent has a cache dir. delete the offending data. of course it could be some sort of disk issue going on00:38
crackhead_25_i deleted the data. it worked for a little bit, and then the same problem happened.00:38
michael_gives only Audigy00:38
Linux_Galoremichael_: Im used to using autocomplete  ie type  asound [TAB] then list00:38
mcrandello_Zabulus: what video card you have?00:39
Dr_willissounds like the driv4e may be having some issues.. or somthign really really weird with ktorrent00:39
Zabulus...nvidia 7600gt, why?00:39
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adamonline45Does anyone know how to make my taskbar items (KBluetooth, KNetworkManager, Power Manager, etc.) not be displayed as widgets on the desktop, but in the taskbar next to KMix and Klipper, etc.?00:39
crackhead_25_i can read and write to the drive through other means. i think the problem must be with ktorrent.00:39
crackhead_25_how can i fix it, though? what could it be?00:39
mcrandelloZabulus: if it were a usb mouse and an ati card on a laptop I might have known a fix for it, sorry00:40
Zabulusthats ok, i wont be surprised if i never find a fix, im about to abandon linux entirely00:40
GrahamAZabulus: MAN OVERBOARD!00:40
Zabulusbeen dealing with this mouse problem for over 12 months now00:40
michael_Linux_Galore: since Audigy is the only one listed, does that mean that the on-board sound is disabled for sure?00:40
GrahamAZabulus: Took me 2 years to get my wireless working.00:41
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card>   not <card. is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:41
lovedeatmcan anybody here help me with a printer issue....i already used the cups forum on ubuntu but it didnt tell me where to get it from00:41
Zabulusi gave up on wireless too, but i got around that00:41
mcrandelloalthough some things to look out for are how many devices are sharing irq, in my case it was a wifi card, modem, video card and the usb bus, the usb was usually the thing that shut down first00:41
Linux_Galorenow*00:41
Zabulusmoved the modem, have internet wire to me, everyone else gets wireless00:41
Zabulusdont mind that, but not being able to use the mouse kinda su@#$00:41
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:41
GrahamAZabulus: What's your mouse issue?00:42
Zabulusmouse freezes up at random times after startup, the mouse works fine in win xp, so im thinking its some compatability issue00:42
Zabulusand no, unplugging and replugging does not help00:42
michael_Linux_Galore:             sudo: soundconf: command not found00:43
Linux_GaloreZabulus: change your mouse configuration00:43
mcrandellothat's what made me think irq issue, once my usb stopped it wouldn't restart without a boot00:43
Linux_Galoremichael_:   asoundconf00:43
michael_k00:43
Zabulusto what?00:43
lovedeatmZabulus, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts?00:43
Zabulusummm, yeah, i have a thought, why are you asking me? im a linux newbie00:44
Linux_GaloreZabulus: usually you can select the default protocol in the setup00:44
lovedeatmlol...00:44
Linux_Galoreie ms /logi / ps200:44
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts?00:45
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: you dont need drivers for a HP printer00:45
michael_Linux_Galore:       got the list00:45
Zabulusok, am i looking in the right place? system settings/keyboard and mouse?00:45
Dr_willisid just manually edit the xorg.conf file. :) but im old-skool00:46
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: HP printers generally use the same setup within each family, you dont need a specific one for a specific model00:46
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, then i have a definete printer issue because i can't print and i dont under stand why. i have the printer connect to an lpt port00:46
Dr_willisid also install gpm for the console and see if the mouse works in the console00:46
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: hold on let me get the liunux-printing url they have a help databse telling what setup is advised00:47
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, ok thanks00:47
Linux_Galorehttp://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi00:48
lovedeatmk ill let you know if it worked00:48
michael_!pastebin00:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:48
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: or you can just google the printer ie use  www.google.com/linux00:48
Dr_williscups.org has printer info also. :)00:49
ZabulusLinux_Galore: mouse configuration under system settings/keyboard and mouse or what?00:49
michael_Linux_Galore:      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47482/00:49
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: I havent hit a HP printer yet that doesnt work with cups (common unix print system) that comes standard with ubuntu00:49
Dr_williswell HP has a low end color laser. that i hear has.. some what lacking.. linux support.. B/W worked.. but color dident.  :(00:50
Dr_willisit may been fixed by now00:50
Linux_GaloreI think HP have a opensource help site too for Linux00:51
michael_yeah, I bought the HP OJ Pro L7680 just when the printer hit the shelves, brought it home and the driver was aiting for me when I got back home00:51
Linux_Galoremichael_:   your ignoring me00:52
Zabulusim amazed my mouse hasnt frozen up already, but im afraid to open up too many programs00:52
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:52
michael_I sent you a link00:52
michael_see it?00:52
Linux_Galoremichael_: yes it means you only typed asoundconf  without telling asoundconf what you want it to do00:53
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, so i went to the site and DLed the ppd jsut in case so how do i install..generlaly speaking00:53
michael_oh00:53
Linux_Galoremichael_: lesseon 1, computers are idiots00:53
Linux_Galorelesson*00:53
michael_ahh00:53
Dr_willisthe ppd may allredy be inclided in the repos. I do recall there being some ppd packages not isntalled by default00:53
Linux_Galoremichael_: dont tell what to do they will ask questions00:54
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:54
michael_sudo asoundconf set-default-Audigy00:54
Zabulushey, where is the grub config file located?00:54
Linux_Galoremichael_:   no -00:54
Linux_Galoremichael_: just a space00:54
n1x0rgot an evms question, I'll check #evms, but wanted to try here first... is it possible to have more than one volume per region00:55
Zabulus#grub00:55
fredy!mp3 | me00:55
ubotume: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:55
Zabulus!grub00:55
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:55
michael_just a space between where?00:56
michael_Sorry. the computer AND me are stupid00:56
michael_lol00:56
Linux_Galoremichael_:  between the command and the card00:57
Zabulusok, well, found the grub config file, now, to make sure, is it safe to delete lines out of it?00:57
michael_ahh, got ya00:57
michael_ok did it00:57
michael_still have static00:59
Linux_Galoremichael_: reboot then run alsamixer00:59
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, so thank you for your help...it worked...for some reason i don't have any print drivers installed (or i just can't acces them even as a root)...any thought on that01:00
michael_ok01:00
blekoshi,i had remote desktop enabled and run ktorrent after awhile i got a msg saying the remote user has closed the connection01:00
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Linux_Galorelovedeatm: do you have cups turned on ?01:00
Zabulusok, can someone help me with the grub? when i started the update to gutsy from feisty, it added to lines to the grub menu, is it ok to delete the 2 lines for what im guessing is feisty?01:01
blekosis it possible for ktorrent to somehow interact with remote desktop?01:01
martijn81if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of package do i need then?01:01
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: K -> System Settings   click on the advanced tab then click on services01:01
northpunki have been using ubuntu for a week.. put kde desktop on today but my menu and bakground are still gnome (even the about gnome is tehre).. anyone know hoe wo completely remove gdm?01:01
sub[t]rnl!purekde01:02
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »01:02
northpunkprivate me so it doesnt' get mixed up in the rest of the chat01:02
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: make sure cups is ticked to be started on boot and make sure it started if not start it01:02
Dr_willisYou can configure/tweak grub all you want by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. BACKUP your original just in case. and its well worth reading the docs on grub at the grub homepage. to learn the ins and outs of grub01:02
sub[t]rnlZabulus: ^^01:03
Dr_willisnorthpunk,  what menu and background are you refering to? You can easially change your desktop wallpaper.01:03
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, whers the tickER @01:03
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: next to were it says cups01:04
* flaccid_ pats his NAS01:04
northpunkwhen it starts up it showes the dubuntu blue desktop.. but then the dnome brown comes back (the gnome wallpapersr are in the list nothing else).. the top menu shows the ubuntu brown logo.. not the blue gears of kubuntu01:04
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, ok thanks01:04
northpunkand in the system where it has about ubuntu.. it has teh brown logo.. and has about gnome still01:04
martijn81if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of cd do i need then? powerpc or i38601:04
MaTiAzi38601:05
northpunkstarts up as kubuntu fine.. but when it loads goes back to gnome (but i used apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop gdm)01:05
Dr_williswhen whast starts up? The PC? or when X starts up? you may be refering to the  boot up splash screen?01:05
Dr_willisHmmm01:05
Dr_willisYou dident need to remove ubuntu-desktop or gdm.01:05
northpunki didn't like it anymore anyways01:05
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm      and be sure that kdm is selected..01:05
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: make sure your in admin mode so click the button on the bottom right when you go into the services section01:05
northpunkpovray only has an interface for kde not gnome anyways.. and that is what started my decision to change it01:05
michael_ok, back and alsamixer is up01:06
Dr_willisYou can easially run kde apps under gnome. : ) and gnome apps under kde.. heh..01:06
northpunkwhen i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm it just goes back to my root line and doesn't display anything01:06
michael_what do I need muted and what needs to be on other than the suround speakers of course01:07
ardchoillenorthpunk: Think about that for a second01:07
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: bugger they have changed it, right click on cupsd then if it isnt market with "yes" to the right and start then do the same again and start at boot01:07
ardchoillenorthpunk: If you're logged in as root, why would you use sudo?01:07
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martijn81thanks MaTiAz, i might buy a macbook in the future the (if the screen resolution is mimimum 1920x1200)01:08
northpunkwell i'm not on as root or su right now01:08
* Linux_Galore admins rhel machines all day so gets mixed up with user settings layouts01:08
lovedeatmok01:09
MinatakuDon't buy Apple products.01:09
MinatakuSupport free and open standards.01:09
michael_apple is nice01:09
ardchoilleMinataku: Got it :)01:09
Linux_GaloreMinataku: Ive got one, for the life of me I cant think what people say they are easier I find them terribly confusing01:09
MinatakuSure, if you think completely proprietary hardware is "nice".01:10
GrahamADoes anybody here play Enemy Territory?01:10
GrahamAWolfenstein, not Quakr Wars01:10
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, im goign to system ---> printer right/01:10
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: no "services"01:10
michael_still have static01:10
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: in the advanced tab01:10
Linux_Galoremichael_: run alsamixer in a terminal01:11
MinatakuLinux_Galore: OSX is based heavily off of NeXTSTEP, which was a horrible system if you ever had the misfortune of experiencing it01:11
michael_got it up01:11
michael_(they (we) are working you tonight, eh?01:11
Linux_Galoremichael_: check mute and levels in each, you should see a whole pile of controls01:11
michael_I do01:11
michael_mic is at 001:12
Linux_Galoremichael_: if you see all the controls that means the driver is working01:12
michael_everything else looks good01:12
michael_but I still get static01:12
michael_I just switched from Suse and it worked great with that01:13
Linux_Galoremichael_:   find a wav  file and type   aplay file.wav01:13
lovedeatmi wish windows had this irc thingie..this make linuz so much easier than windows by like a conjillion times01:13
MinatakuThere are two controls that carry importance, at least on my card01:13
Minataku"Main" and "PCM"01:13
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: windows does have irc just no real community to talk of01:13
MinatakuSet one to 100%, and adjust the other one as desired01:14
martijn81macbook pro or thinkpad T60?01:14
lovedeatmo0o...lol...i wihs i had known about it then and that they had a community01:14
RogueJediXI'm pretty sure I've seen a windows channel here on freenode01:14
MinatakuI set "Main" to 100% and adjust "PCM"01:14
Minatakumartijn81: Thinkpad T6001:14
MinatakuBut I personally and very highly recommend Toshiba laptops01:14
Linux_GaloreRogueJediX: yeah, there are a few FOSS projects on windows but the community os very small01:15
Linux_Galoreis*01:15
michael_I played a MP3 and get all static01:15
RogueJediXLinux_Galore: Ah, I see01:15
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, cupsys = yes = running01:15
MinatakuI've got two Toshiba machines running ATM01:15
Linux_Galorehard to have a community when one side keeps saying "we own it all and wont share", sort of puts a dent in the realtionship01:15
MinatakuOne is from 2003 and is my primary system01:15
MinatakuThe other is a collection piece from 198701:15
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: ok01:16
devinuswhen the hell will kde4 be released01:16
NickPresta!kde4 > devinus01:17
lovedeatmyeah...ok i think i'm throuhg with question for the night thanks all for the help..im sure ill be back for me..im working on a server...using ubuntu..anyway lataz01:17
MinatakuWhen it's ready01:17
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: run  sudo  adept_manager01:17
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: lets get all the HP stuff installed01:17
NickPrestaLinux_Galore, that should be kdesu, instead of sudo01:17
michael_gotta go01:17
lovedeatmk01:17
Linux_GaloreNickPresta: never used the k version in 3 years01:18
michael_later folks, thanks01:18
NickPrestaLinux_Galore, that's fine, but http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo01:18
michael_I may have more time later01:18
michael_thanks Linux_Galore:01:18
Linux_GaloreNickPresta: I know, un-needed fluster01:18
lovedeatmok so what do i now01:19
Linux_Galoretype hp in the seach box01:19
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: what type of HP printer is it ?01:20
Zabulusnow that my mouse is actually working, knock on wood, any suggestions on making the linux experience more pleasurable?01:20
lovedeatmits an deskjet 832C and 830C01:20
MinatakuHm01:21
ardchoilleZabulus: mplayer libdvdcss2 (medibuntu repo)01:21
MinatakuI just noticed that the Toshiba T1200 keyboard has the Ctrl key in the Unix position01:21
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, 832C and 830C, i DLed the drivers though so it owrks now01:22
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: ok make sure the foomatic-hp-hpijs  package is installed if not install it01:22
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: aah dont worry then01:22
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, lol yeah its installed and thanks...01:22
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: might be wise though to install the correct drivers package01:23
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: that way you get any updates automatically01:23
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, foomatic? yeah its installed01:24
Dr_willisI find that by using windows for some time.. when i come back to Linux.. i find linux very pleasureable.. :)01:25
nevilleYes!!01:26
nevilleI agree!01:26
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: also hpijs01:26
Zabulusgahh, now i get to figure out why audio card isnt working...01:26
Linux_GaloreI have mixed feeling, windows does some things better linux others01:26
nosrednaekimZabulus: networking working now?01:26
Zabulusmy networking was fine, i was having problems with my mouse01:27
Linux_GaloreI think it more to do with Linux not being supported by hardware makers than anything01:27
Dr_willisI find some programs FOR windows - do some things better then some programs for linux. :)01:27
nosrednaekimoh... yeah... thats right01:27
Zabulusnow im trying to play music, but im not hearing anything01:27
nevilleTry them in Wine?01:27
nevilleI fiddled with it for a long time01:27
Dr_willisVista seems to have been a step back in 'hardware' compatiability  for a lot of my stuff...01:27
nevilleAnd got most everything of mine going fine in wine01:27
nosrednaekimZabulus: check and make sure all of the channels in kmix are maxxed and unmuted01:27
nevilleExcept for some games01:27
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Dr_willissucks when the HW makers decide to obsolete things. :)01:27
Linux_GaloreI think Linux/BSD etc have an edge over windows thanks to the community01:28
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Dr_willisIm not sure how well  Nero 8 would work with wine.   Id live to see all of Nero8  and its tools ported to linux01:28
Linux_GaloreI think Linux doesnt sell the community aspect enough and just talks software01:28
Linux_GaloreMicrosoft Achilles heal is the lack of a free and open community01:29
N1ghtm4r3Helo everybody01:29
N1ghtm4r3i am right now on my Kubuntu Live CD01:29
Zabuluseverything in kmix is good01:29
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i just installed hpijs like you said anything else i should do?01:29
nevilleSee01:29
nevilleIf Linux had a footprint bigger than <1%01:30
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: well you can look at the other packages and see what you like but thats all I installed form my HP jet stuff01:30
nevilleI'm sure we'd get alot of the Windows software too01:30
neville=]01:30
nosrednaekimZabulus: hrm... what audio chipset?01:30
N1ghtm4r3im going to reinstall Kubuntu again01:30
Zabulusi have a soundblaster audigy 401:30
N1ghtm4r3due to previous problems01:31
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, ok, can you have a look at this question and give me your thought http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1950101:31
nosrednaekim!hardware | Zabulus look it up on this page01:31
ubotuZabulus look it up on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport01:31
Dr_willisaudigy 4? that the xi-fi card?01:31
Dr_willisor is it called X-fi - i forget.01:32
Zabulusthats whats weird, i think it was working with feisty01:33
Zabulusmaybe the bios turned my onboard audio back on...01:33
NickPrestaDr_willis, it's X-Fi, but that isn't the same as the audigy 4 card, IIRC01:33
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: why RTSS, I just use nfs01:33
Dr_willisWell last i heard the 'x-fi' cards for some odd reason - creative had released 64bit drivers.. but not 32bit drivers...01:34
lovedeatmwhats nfs...01:34
Dr_willisI havent kept up on it lately. My Audigy2 is still doing the job. :)01:34
Dr_willis!nfs01:34
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:34
NickPrestaDr_willis, yeah. I was checking it out today: http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/default.aspx01:34
Linux_Galore!nfs01:34
NickPrestaDr_willis, the 64bit drivers aren't too great but at least they're available :)01:34
Dr_willisYep. Creative really dropped the ball with their x-fi stuf.. i was going to get one.. but decided to not bother.01:35
lovedeatm!nfs > lovedeatm01:35
Linux_Galorelovedeatm:   user |01:35
lovedeatmthats for the file sharing side...RTSS is for streaming audio01:36
Linux_Galorelovedeatm:   user | subject01:36
N1ghtm4r3funny how i can install Linux very easily and run whatever programs i want at the same time01:36
N1ghtm4r3the only problem to this is that my computer's fan becomes very loud lol!01:36
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: what not icecast01:37
Zabuluswell, i think ill check bios to see if onboard got activated somehow01:37
Zabulusbrb01:37
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: why not icecast01:37
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i have icecast...im more concerned about the workstations part of the question01:38
refreshratei want to make a keyboard shortcut for /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh, i changed its permission, but i still cant use it w/o being root. anything i can do?01:38
lovedeatmbecause i still need to be able to run things like final cut pro and garagband on the mac\01:38
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: aaah proprietary lock in01:39
Linux_Galoreilife<- talks to -> ilife01:40
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder01:40
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lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder. can i do that01:43
Zabulusyay, simple fix01:43
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: havwent got a clue I only have 1 apple machine and I dont use it for media01:43
nosrednaekimZabulus: works now?01:44
Zabulusyep, my onboard audio somehow got turned back on01:44
nosrednaekimZabulus: what was the fix for the mouse?01:44
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, o...i have a top that won't install linux on it...thats another log gruling thing and im sure your tired and dont want to help woth that its late ya'now01:44
Zabulusnow im just hoping that doesnt mess something up with my win xp01:44
Zabulusim not actually sure what fixed the mouse, im not even sure its entirely fixed or if i havent set off whatever triggers it to freeze01:45
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: Ive got a G3 lap and Linux is not well supported on ppc anymore Im finding01:45
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: yellow-dog is supposed to be good01:45
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: unless you have a server then its fine01:46
nosrednaekimZabulus: XD01:46
Zabulusok, any more suggestions for a better linux experience?01:46
Zabulusyeah, i keep knocking on wood every time i say my mouse is working01:46
Zabulusknock on wood01:46
nosrednaekimZabulus: don't do anything until you know exactly what it does.01:46
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, lol not a server check it out...this is what happened after following all the directions for a G# lombard, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1914101:46
Zabulusnow i have to figure out which of my games i can play on linux01:47
lovedeatmG3801:47
lovedeatmG3*01:47
nosrednaekimUT2004, Doom, Neverwinter NIghts01:47
jembougeNeverwinter Nights great01:48
jembouge:p01:48
jembougeworks all fine01:48
Linux_Galorewow works pretty well under wine now01:48
smookerhi all, i have problems with the sound, i cant put the sound UP its like 30% and my KMix doesnt work ..01:48
Linux_Galoresmooker: run alsamixer01:49
Zabuluswell, which doom? and how about unreal anthology?01:49
nosrednaekimZabulus: all of the dooms01:50
Zabulusawesome01:50
Linux_Galorethere is also a pile of open source doom engine games01:50
* Zabulus grabs doom trilogy01:50
nosrednaekimWolfenstein is good too01:50
nosrednaekimas well as Saurbraten01:50
Linux_Galorealso some unreal engine based games too01:50
nosrednaekimAlien Arena for example01:51
Zabulusi think i have too many games01:51
Zabulusnahhhh01:51
smookerthanks it was like 70% in alexamixer but stil not hearing as before01:52
ardchoilleZabulus: No such thing as "too many games"01:52
smookerproubly i have other mixers with the players come ?01:52
Linux_GaloreIm am mame person and Linux is the king of emulation support01:52
Linux_Galorea*01:52
Zabulusyes there is, when you dont have enough time to play 1/4 of the games you have01:52
user_soup all...  i have Feisty installed on an old lappy.  the cd-rom recently died.  would i be able to download the Gusty .iso and mount it while runny Feisty to install 7.10?01:53
Linux_GaloreI must be the only person with over 40 different version or space invaders01:53
Zabulusyou should be able to use feisty do update, not have to use image01:53
user_Zabulus: I have a corrupted version of 7.04 already :/01:53
Linux_GaloreI must be the only person with over 40 different versions of space invaders01:54
Zabulusouch01:54
Zabulusyou said that01:54
user_zabulus: i have no directory other than "root"01:54
user_zabulus: which contains "desktop" and thats *all*01:54
Zabulushow the hell did you do that?01:54
ardchoilleAre you viewing "hidden" files/folders?01:55
user_zabulus: don't know.  booting one day, it said it found errors on the disk, and to run fsck.  So i did, and when i finally was able to get into X, everything was gone01:55
Linux_Galoreuser_:  sudo -s  then look01:55
user_ardchoille, linux_galore: i can try that, but i'd like to do a fresh install of 7.1001:56
Zabulus40 different versions of space invaders, i think ive played 10-20 different versions, dont have any installed on my comp01:56
user_am i able to mount the .iso while running Feisty?01:56
user_networking is all i have that still works01:56
Linux_Galoreuser_: standard user on 7.04 cant view root directories from memory01:56
Zabulushave a few versions for ps2, one of those "collections" games01:56
nevilleHas anybody here ever given Virtualbox a go before?01:57
user_linux_galore: maybe i phrased it wrong - when i open konqueror, it automatically opens root (file:///), and in there is "Desktop".  There are *no* other directories (ie, /usr, /bin/ /home)01:57
nevilleIf so, what was the performance like?01:57
Linux_Galoreuser_: correct that is exactly right01:58
user_linux_galore: so what is the fix?01:58
Linux_Galoreuser_: you opened konqueror as a "user"  users dont change root directories on root does01:58
Linux_Galoreonly*01:58
nosrednaekimneville: works great here01:59
user_i used to be able to view all directories before, now i can't even open /home01:59
Linux_Galoreuser_:  type  sudo konqueror01:59
user_ok, so what changed?01:59
user_why could i view all my directories before, but not now?01:59
Linux_Galoreuser_: basically your user isnt an administrator01:59
mcrandelloneville: I'm running windows in it, it's not much slower than native01:59
Zabulushey, is there a game like bust a move that i can dl?01:59
mcrandelloneville: having some problems with drm devices though which kind of makes it moot01:59
Linux_Galoreuser_: check your user settings, basically your machine is in normal secure mode02:00
user_linux_galore: so i do i revert back to the way it was?02:00
user_linux_galore: i wouldn't know where to look, as i didn't knowingly change anything- this all started after running fsck02:00
mcrandelloneville: also turn off composite effects on the DT if you want to run windows in seamless mode, it causes refresh problems otherwise02:00
nevilleAhh02:00
nevilleBecause, I wasp lanning on putting Windows 98 on it, and seeing if Starcraft would run well02:01
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nevilleDue to Wine not entirely liking Starcraft02:01
mcrandelloI don't think it does accellerated 3d if it uses that02:01
nevilleStarcraft is direct draw 3 =]02:01
Zabulushehe, bomberman!!!02:01
nevilleOnly needs a 90MHz processor, 16Mb ram02:02
Linux_Galoreuser_: The root directory (/) contains a file called /.hidden. Open this in a text editor and delete the names of the directories which you want to have shown.02:02
MaTiAzinsane requirements.02:02
nevilleTell that to me when I had my pentium 90, and I'll be inclined to agree =P02:02
Linux_Galoreuser_: you will have to open the file with sudo02:02
nevilleThanks for the input though mcrandello02:03
Zabulusso whats a good version of bomberman on here?02:03
Linux_Galoreksudo kedit02:03
Zabulusmultiplayer version hopefully...02:03
user_linux_galore: thanks!  that probably will work.  But now, I'm still interested in being able to mount an .iso of 7.10 (seems better to do fresh install - people have had issues upgrading).  Is this possible?02:04
Linux_Galore!upgrade02:04
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:04
user_Linux_Galore: i don't want to upgrade- I want to do a fresh install, hopefully without the aid of flash drive (don't have one) or cd-rom (recently died)02:05
nosrednaekimuser_: I don't suppose it can net-boot?02:06
user_linux_galore: if this isn't possible, i'll try the upgrade02:06
mcrandellouser_: that's going to be very complicated I would think02:06
ardchoilleuser_: How many hard drives do you have?02:06
Linux_Galoreuser_: just upgrade, it will just replace the old packages02:06
user_ardchoille: only one02:06
mcrandellopartitions?02:06
ardchoilleuser_: Ok, you're going to need one partition to use while the installer is running and another partition to hold the new system it is installing to. Can you see why that wouldn't be a good thing with only one drive?02:07
Zabulushey, does anyone know of a good multiplayer online version of bomberman? the more like bomberman party edition it is the better02:07
user_ardchoille: yeah, i understand... fortunately, repartitoning is fairly easy02:07
Linux_Galoreardchoille: think about the path your taking, have you got a spare 3 hours02:08
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: That's exactly what I was trying to get user_ to realise02:08
user_ok, i get it! :) I'll re-open hidden files, and upgrade like everyone else02:09
Linux_Galoreuser_: basically with Linux almost anything can be done, the down side is your going to have to blow 3-4 hours way of your time to get there02:09
Linux_Galoreaway*02:09
Linux_Galoreuser_: the hidden files are not hidden to the root user only to the normal user02:10
user_linux_galore: why would it take 3 hours to mount 2 drives and copy an O/S to one?02:10
nosrednaekimas onlg as you have "cp" anything is possible02:10
Linux_Galoreuser_: updates are a root process so those directories wont be hidden02:10
user_linux_galore: ok, so i can skip that step if i just want to upgrade, right?02:10
user_I can just use02:11
user_Adept to upgrade then?02:11
Linux_Galoreuser_: backup files, resize partitions, partition hard disk, the list goes on02:12
Linux_Galoreuser_: just read the following link02:12
Linux_Galore!upgrade02:12
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:12
user_alright, alright.  I'll try it.  thanks everyone for the help!02:13
Linux_Galoreheh02:14
Linux_GaloreI usually just save /home and flush the system02:14
ardchoilleBetter to put /home on its own partition02:15
Linux_Galoreardchoille: I do that but I have had installers totally ignore my instructions and stuff up /home02:15
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: eh?never had that happen..02:16
Xcellfinally02:17
deurytexcell02:17
Xcellya02:17
XcellEverything ok?02:18
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: Oh, that's not good.02:18
Linux_Galoreardchoille: yeah especially when I didnt back it up for a month02:18
deuryteits still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial,02:19
deurytei finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial02:19
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XcellDeu: brb..stand by.02:19
Linux_Galorethink it was a red hat bug on the installer   ie use whole disk but not this bit conflict02:19
Linux_Galoreso now I always backup the /home directory/partition02:20
Xcellk02:22
deuryteits still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial,02:22
deurytei finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial02:22
Linux_Galoreman I totally love my N810 with canola 2 (media player)02:23
XcellTomorrow..bring the modem and sys with you..k?02:23
Linux_Galoregot my holidays coming up so i can take some movies that I havent watched yet and sit on the beach and relaxe02:23
deurytelet me try a little more 1st02:23
Linux_Galore?modem02:24
Xcellk stand bye...ask ardchoille he can help.02:24
deuryteserial modems are the only way !!!02:24
Linux_Galoregod no, not dial up I hope02:24
deuryteif u saw where i lived, youde be concidered rich to have even that02:25
Xcellardchoille:  I put brand new Kubuntu using high speed..he took it home and has dial up.02:25
ardchoilleeeewww @ dialup02:25
* ardchoille knows nothing about dialup02:25
Linux_Galoredeuryte: Im spoilt I must admit 22mb connection02:25
deuryteyum, yum. he he he i luv dial up!!02:25
XcellHe has no choice ardchoille.02:25
Linux_GaloreXcell: satelite02:26
XcellPlease walk him through it.thanks02:26
jaz_umm hi02:26
Linux_GaloreI spent 20 years on dialup, never will I go back02:27
Linux_Galore1200 baud terminal connections argh!02:27
Linux_Galorehai jaz02:27
deurytemine is 1201...02:27
deurytegot the hi speed dial up/02:27
Linux_Galoreheh02:28
jaz_i just got Kubuntu Running ^-^02:28
Linux_GaloreI remember my first 56K modem, I saved up for a month02:28
Xcelldeu: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s06.html02:28
deuryte402:28
Linux_Galorejaz_: welcome to freedom02:28
Linux_Galoresomeone should create a "So you have installed Kubuntu what now" howto02:29
jaz_lol02:29
jaz_im trying to update my Graphics driver atm02:30
XcellDeu is my physical brother, be nice or i will......you know..lol.02:30
Linux_Galorejaz_: I used envy02:30
Linux_Galore!envy02:30
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »02:30
ardchoille!nvy02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:30
deurytexcell, site didnt diclose enough, will be searching........02:30
jaz_Envy?02:31
Xcellk02:31
Xcelldeu: google (dailup) kubuntu.02:31
deurytew2ktu rocks02:31
Linux_Galorejaz_: install envy  ksudo apt-get install envy  then run it  with ksudo envy02:32
jaz_ok, ill check it out02:32
Linux_Galorejaz_: it install ati/nvidia drivers for you02:32
Linux_Galoreinstalls02:33
jaz_ok kewl thnks for the tip02:33
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Linux_Galorejaz_:  actuall you need to type ksudo envy -g02:34
Linux_Galoreactually*02:34
Linux_Galorejaz_: that will give you the easy to use graphical installer02:35
nosrednaekimno! do NOT use envy!02:35
nosrednaekim!envy02:35
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »02:35
Xcelldeuryte: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/network/C/connect-modems.html#dialup-config02:35
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: Ive used it heaps of times with no issues02:35
nosrednaekim!worksforme02:35
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/02:35
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: On different platforms02:36
deurytenice one !!  ill try that one out !!  xcell02:37
Xcellk02:37
Xcellhey..do my full nic so I can hear you when im busy02:37
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deurytexcell.  was that it?02:38
NIXPIXhey guys i have a question i have no clue where to start...i installed the ATI 200m driver into my feisty64 bit02:38
NIXPIXand when i have special effects...ex shutdown...screen goes grey02:38
deuryteoh, i woulndt of done that02:38
Xcelldom as it asks..then we will go from there02:38
NIXPIXit gives me these 2 glitch bars...02:39
NIXPIXon thee bottom right of my screen02:39
NIXPIXthere about an inch long...and about an inch apart from eachother...02:39
NIXPIXi tryed screencapturing it...and it didnt show up on the picture02:39
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: did you enable compiz in your xorg file ?02:40
NIXPIXhow do i check02:40
Linux_Galorecat /etc/X11/xorg.conf  should be right on the end of the file02:41
Xcelldeuryte: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kppp/index.html02:41
deuryte402:41
NIXPIXlike its just there...same spot...everytime...it doesnt impead anything i do...but i am unable now to go into like...desplay manager..in system settings02:41
Linux_Galoresection "Extensions"   option         "Composite" "Disable" EndSection02:41
deuryteactually, it already has that in it...  the hand book. i just saw it before i gave up, ill go back to it later.02:42
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  you should see "Enable"02:42
NIXPIXat the top02:43
Xcellk  if U want to..bring back and ill get it working k?02:43
NIXPIXo srry end02:43
Xcelltomorrow.02:43
NIXPIXi see extentions composite enable02:43
deurytebi-nutu........  for those who like it both ways....02:43
NIXPIXso i set it to disable02:43
NIXPIX?02:43
deuryte402:43
Xcellk02:43
XcellDo not do any sys settings..do not.02:44
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: no enable if you want effect disable if you dont02:44
deurytexcell  ok, but for now, you too can read up on it, the kppp handbook is factory...02:44
NIXPIXi dont have compiz02:44
NIXPIXi just want to watch my movies in open gl02:44
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  then disable it02:44
XcellI have..tomorrow U will be happy..just vring the modem (with) you..k?02:45
Xcellbring02:45
XcellAnd dont gorget the cables.02:45
deuryte402:45
NIXPIXeffects...like...transparacy02:45
XcellDid boot the monitor ok?02:45
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Linux_GaloreI find compiz sucks for video playing02:45
nosrednaekimindeed02:46
NIXPIXso that graying effect is gone...when composit= disable02:46
deuryteit didnt need any changes, i tryd but it kept same settings...02:46
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: yes02:46
NIXPIXhmm...02:46
NIXPIXand transparacy02:46
NIXPIXof my windows02:46
Xcellnice..U r fine then..bring tomorrow and we will settle things..02:46
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  transparency is there just not the effects02:47
NIXPIXo02:47
XcellNuff said.02:47
NIXPIXso if i want to disable do i need a capital letter02:47
NIXPIXis it Disable...or just disable02:47
Zabulusdamned, my mouse just froze...02:47
deurytewhat do you think it is??  it queries and finds the modem, but when i attempt to dial out, it doesnt go any further than to initialize.....02:47
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: I think it works either way02:47
NIXPIXok...so how do i test to see if that solved the prob02:48
XcellIt has to be configured...tomorrow..not now.02:48
Zabulusok, how do i stop my mouse from freezing?02:48
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  press ctrl alt backspace02:48
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: that will restart the xserver02:49
NIXPIXkkk...brb02:49
neoGuys I am running kubuntu 7.10 with 512mb ram and right now i have Konversation open with dual monitor setup and the number of free ram memory is 112mb(22%). Is it normal because my system is going slow and is it due to dualhead?02:51
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NIXPIXum..i tryed disable as well as Disable02:51
NIXPIXand i still get thise bars02:51
NIXPIXand i still get the grey effects02:51
NIXPIXwhere it greys down...when you go to shutdown02:52
Linux_Galoreneo: no looks like you have something sucking up your ram  run ksudo ksysguard02:52
nyork@neo yep.. try ksysguard. it will show what is eating up your resources02:52
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: thats not a compiz effect02:52
NIXPIXo02:53
hrp2171seasons greetings!  need help!  how do i become root during live cd session?  need to recover some files off a laptop.  thank you.02:53
NIXPIXi still get the bars02:53
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: thats been around for years02:53
NIXPIXo02:53
NIXPIXlike...i just need to know where to start searching for an answer02:53
nyorkhrp2171: root of the installed system or root of the livecd?02:54
Zabulusok, i need help, my mouse keeps freezing, i thought it was fixed, but, apparently not02:54
neoIs VMsize the size of the memory an app be using?02:54
NIXPIXlike...its so incredibly strange...02:54
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: the bars I suspect are an error in your setup ie refresh/resolution is out fo sync02:54
Linux_Galoreof*02:54
NIXPIXand?02:54
hrp2171become root while using the live cd.  the laptop's drive won't boot and need to recover some files off from it.  ive already mounted the partition but cant see inside it.02:54
NIXPIXchange desktop size02:54
NIXPIX?02:54
adamonline45Is there a way to adjust gamma or overall screen brightness?02:55
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  well I usually just run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:55
NIXPIXthat SHOULD fix...or tell me whats wrong02:55
Xcelldeu: I am in another room say my full nic when needed.02:55
Xcelldeuryte02:55
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: that allows you to play with the settings, its a helper app02:56
neoGuys there are so  many processes in Ksysguard, what to do?02:56
nyorkneo: what live cd are you using? kubuntu?02:56
NIXPIXo02:56
hrp2171ran sudo mount /dev/sda1 to-mount-point but the ubuntu live cd user cant cd into it02:56
NIXPIXxserver driver...02:56
NIXPIXuhh02:56
Zabulusneed help, my mouse keeps on freezing up02:56
NIXPIXwhat do i say to that02:56
neoIts  not live its installed on my hdd.02:56
neoyes its Kubuntu02:56
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: it should show a list of drivers02:56
NIXPIXso what do i pic02:56
NIXPIXpick02:56
deurytexcell02:56
NIXPIXfglrx02:57
NIXPIX?02:57
nyorkhrp2171: what live cd are you using? kubuntu?02:57
sub[t]rnladamonline45: System settings -> monitors -> color & gamma.  (and the actual monitor of course)02:57
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: what ever suites your card02:57
Xcellya02:57
NIXPIXi have an ati 200m02:57
hrp21716.06LTS Kubuntu.  also the hd partition is mounted ntfs rw02:57
nyorkneo: try killing some of the process...02:57
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  fglrx sounds right, if you get it wrong you can run the command again02:58
hrp2171i tried su - but no password works to switch to root access.02:58
Zabulusneed help, my mouse keeps on freezing up, can anyone assist me?02:58
neoCan I list say five or ten processes name here at a time and you can tell me which ones to kill?02:58
ardchoillehrp2171: You don't need su, use sudo02:58
nyorkhrp2171: try sudo su02:58
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NIXPIXthis might help...when i installed the gl driver from restricted drivers manager02:59
hrp2171awesome nyork02:59
nyorkneo: yep.. let's try..02:59
NIXPIXit didnt have this problem02:59
hrp2171thanks02:59
ardchoillenyork: That's not recommended nor supported.02:59
nosrednaekimZabulus: started happening again?02:59
nyorkhrp2171: you are the root user now? :-)02:59
Zabulusyep...02:59
Zabulusi was doing different stuff, tried to go to myspace, and it froze03:00
hrp2171ardchoille: im using the live cd to recover some files off my niece's laptop because the drive won't boot anymore.03:00
nosrednaekimZabulus: any clue at all what you did? do a "dmesg" see if the kernel is doing something.03:00
Linux_Galoresudo -c  is not to be used unless you have your head screwed on03:00
neoacpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd03:00
Zabulusseems like it happens when the computer is loading something03:00
ardchoillesudo is all that is needed. Been using it for years and haven't needed anyting else03:00
hrp2171Linux_Galore: i know how to run with scissors  LOL03:00
deurytexcell03:01
Zabulusummmm, dmesg has a nice long output03:01
Kr4t05VOICE ME NIGGERS03:01
Linux_Galoreardchoille: depends, I often have long admin sessions and sudo can be annoying03:01
Xcellya03:01
nyorkneo: list all process not only those for the user03:01
deurytethe "j" room is now back open...03:01
nosrednaekimZabulus: just look at the last 20 lines or so( if you haven't rebooted since your mouse froze)03:02
neoIts all, should I list enter more now.03:02
Xcelllol b right there.03:02
polo2sources.list.save is a backup of the original sources.list?03:02
Xcelllol not 4 me.03:02
Linux_Galoreardchoille: for 5 minute admin sessions sudo is fine but for reconfiguring apache or mysql on a server forget it03:02
nosrednaekimpolo2: maybe.03:02
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Zabulusam i looking for something specific? im too new to linux...03:03
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: sudo vim apache2.conf?03:03
polo2maybe? is posible not?03:03
nyorkneo: in the process table tab .... you can use the list all processes drop down...03:03
Linux_Galoreardchoille: 1 file, now the other few thousand root only files I have03:03
adamonline45sub[t]rnl: Alright cool, thank you!  My color still doesn't match a gif I made in gimp when viewed from my windows computer...03:03
RobertoM_[away]Linux_Galore: maybe you miss sudo -s ? :-)03:04
RobertoM_[away]The real problem with sudo is that if you mess with your hostname, you're out of your PC03:04
Linux_Galoreyeah sorry typo sudo -s03:05
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Linux_Galoresigh, to many command flags03:05
deurytexcell, non responding03:05
mcrandellois -s similar to -i?03:05
Xcellya  I cant go.lol03:06
Zabulusnosrednaekim: am i looking for something specific?03:06
nyorkmcrandello: -s: shows sizes with -l. -l only show long list format03:07
nosrednaekimZabulus: anything to do with USB or mouse03:07
nosrednaekimZabulus: did you reboot since it froze last?03:07
Zabulusnope03:07
RobertoM_[away]mcrandello: (if you where talking about sudo :-) ) similar but not the same. -s only starts a shell in the current dir, -i simulates a login for the root user03:08
Zabulusi dont see anything about usb or mouse...03:08
Linux_Galoresudo -i  changes the user variable -s doesnt ie $PATH etc03:08
nosrednaekimZabulus: soo how are you working without a mouse?03:08
Zabulusalt+tab and what not03:09
RobertoM_[away]4am... time to go to sleep for me ^^'  good night to all03:09
mcrandelloRobertoM_[away]: so then -s would be a lot handier in a lot of instances where I don't want to change dirs to /root03:09
mcrandello(night)03:09
nosrednaekimZabulus: lol, ok....try doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look at the last 20 or so lines of that for anything relating to mouse or input03:09
hrp2171thanks guys.  worked wonderfully.03:09
Xcelldeuryte03:10
deuryteyo03:10
Linux_Galoremcrandello: yes if you what to stick to your admin user variables -s is better03:10
Xcellwhats up03:10
ardchoilletail -lines 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:10
deurytepondering modemic epidemic03:10
neoacpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd dbus-daemon dcopserver dd dhsdbd dhclient events/0 getty hald hald-addon-acpi hald-addon-keyb  hald-addon-stor hald-runner hcid init kaccess kacpid kacpi_notify katapult kblockd/0 kblueplugd kded kdeinit kdesktop kdm khelper khubd kicker kinfocenter kio_file kio_uiserver kjournald klauncher klipper klogd kmix knetworkmanager knotify kondemand/0 konqueror konsole konversation kpsmoused03:10
neokrfcommd kseriod ksmserver ksoftirqd/0 ksuspend_usbd kswapd0 ksysguard ksysguardd kthreadd kwin kwrapper migration/0 NetworkManager NetworkManagerD pdflush scsi_eh_0 scsi_eh_1 sh ssh-agent start_kdeinit syslogd udevd watchdog/0 Xorg s-session-manag03:10
ardchoilleoops, should be --lines03:10
Zabulusyeah, pretty much everything i can see has to do with input/mouse03:11
nosrednaekimZabulus: can you pastebin it?03:11
neoWell these are all of the processes, which one to stop and how03:11
Zabulusummm, not really03:11
Linux_Galoreneo: in ksysguard ?03:11
nosrednaekimZabulus: you registered? if so...PM me and paste it there03:11
neoyes03:11
nyorkneo: you can sort these processes such that it is arranged from process intensive to lesser03:12
Linux_Galoreneo: select it then stop it with the button down the bottom03:12
Zabulusok, but it might take a while, and it might be a mess03:12
neoVMsize?03:12
nyorkneo; just click the "System%" on top03:12
nosrednaekimthat looks like alphabetic neo03:12
sub[t]rnlhtop ftw03:13
Xcelloi.03:13
nyorkneo: with sorted processes you will know which is eating up your resources....03:13
Linux_Galoreneo: click on the vmsize column that should show what is sucking up your ram03:13
neook03:14
Linux_Galoreneo: dont kill xorg03:14
neook03:14
neoxorg is taking up 9703:14
ardchoillesub[t]rnl: Yes, htop is awesome03:14
Xcellya htop rocks03:14
Linux_Galoreneo: xorg is your graphical interface03:14
Linux_Galoreneo: 97 in what column ?03:15
neoI don't know which process I need and which I don't thats why l listed all of them to see if you can see which ones not right.03:15
neoVmSize column03:15
neokonversation is 6203:16
Linux_Galoreneo: go down one at a time starting from the top03:16
neook03:16
sub[t]rnlardchoille you just like it cause your a cli junky03:16
* sub[t]rnl ducks03:16
Xcelllol03:16
ardchoilleIndeed :)03:16
neoVmSize is in order 0 to 9703:16
path_hi there03:17
Xcellhi there 203:17
path_having issues upgrading to gutsy03:17
Linux_Galoreneo: I just need the first 5 thats were the probem will exist03:17
sub[t]rnl:p03:17
path_ /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu2_all.deb03:17
path_trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz', which is also in package vim-common03:17
path_:\03:17
Xcelloi03:17
Linux_Galoreproblem*03:17
neoyou mean the five highest in the VmSize column03:17
nyorkneo: yup03:17
Linux_Galoreneo: yep, if its sucking up that much ram it will be up the top03:18
Linux_Galorein vmsize03:18
Linux_Galorewithin the first 5-10  but normall the first 503:18
Linux_Galorenormally*03:19
nyorkpath: try sudo rm /usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz. then run your upgrade again03:19
neoThen its Xorg-97 konversation-62 kdesktop-53 kinfocenter-47 kicker-38 konqueror-38 artsd-37 kded-3503:19
Linux_Galoreneo: looks normal03:19
neoIs it possible that there might be spyware running03:20
Xcelloi03:20
Xcellnozi03:20
Linux_Galoreneo: not on Linux03:20
nyorkneo: Linux_Galore is right.. it is not possible in GNU/Linux03:20
Linux_Galoreneo: with Linux you have to "intentionally" install spyware03:20
path_nyork same error03:20
neoShould I list the rest that are in double figures?03:21
Linux_Galoreneo: if you want, could be you have too much crud running, it does add up03:21
neocrud?03:21
Linux_Galoreneo: applets/monitors etc03:21
ardchoilleneo: How much ram do you have?>03:22
neoI migrated to Linux few days back and I don't even know how to properly setup my desktop let alone set 'crud'!03:22
neo512mb03:22
Linux_Galoreneo: on my machine firefox is consuming 207mb and right under that is xorg03:22
path_locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory03:23
Linux_Galore512mb is cutting it a bit thin these days03:23
path_WTF ?03:23
neook should I increase the ram03:23
path_I cant install anything :shock:03:23
Xcelldeuryte03:24
ardchoilleneo: One thing you could do is kill konqueror if you don't use it much. I'm not sure why the devs made d3lphin the default fm and then left 2 konq procs running all the time.03:24
Linux_Galorepath_: I had the same bug a while back in feisty03:24
neohow do I kill a process?03:24
Xcelldeuryte03:24
path_Linux_Galore and you fixed it ?03:25
deurytesup03:25
Linux_Galoreneo: right click on the process then click on the [KILL] button down the bottom03:25
Xcellalt+f2+kppp03:25
nyorkpath: they have this thread in ubuntu forum.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167504&highlight=VIM03:25
Linux_Galorepath_: yes, Im trying to remember how, it was a package script bug03:25
neothere is no kill option03:25
deurytewhat is that??03:26
nyorkpath: i just don't know if that will also work for you..03:26
nosrednaekimlol03:26
nosrednaekim<Zabulus> ok, now, how do i do that? (forgive my ignorance)03:26
nosrednaekim[22:26] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+backspace..03:26
nosrednaekim[22:26] <nosrednaekim> its ok :D03:26
nosrednaekim[22:26] [Error] Zabulus: No such nick/channel.03:26
Xcellbocopy your connection statistics on paper..and boot kubuntu and press alt+f2  and put (kppp) and enter info03:26
Linux_Galorepath_: I have the feeling it was ripping kde out and putting it back that fixed it03:27
path_nyork It worked :D03:27
nyorkpath,Linux_Galore: hope you did not experience the hal errors during the upgrade ...03:27
deurytebocopy ??03:27
Xcellcopy03:27
Linux_Galorenyork: lol, no03:27
nyorkpath: awesome..03:28
path_nyork at this point nope03:28
path_yet having issues with locales03:28
Xcellright click on your Ubuntu network screen thingy and copy stats03:28
niteriderIIhi yall03:28
deuryteconnection statistics, where are these??03:28
Linux_Galoreneo: did you run ksysguard   ie sudo ksysguard03:28
ardchoilleNever run a gui app with sudo. use kdesudo03:28
nyorknyork: i have to do a clean install of gutsy rather than an upgrade due to those errors.. that was a few days after the release.. i got my lesson.. upgrade after a month..03:28
ardchoille!kdesudo03:28
niteriderIIi need some help for kubuntu concerning a synaptics touch pad03:28
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)03:28
Xcellbottom right..click on the small computer screen03:29
neoyes and I found the kill button, I was looking for it in the context menu(that how I did it in windows)03:29
Linux_Galoreneo: I did say "down the bottom"03:29
neoSorry and thanks, so would you suggest I should get more ram?03:30
deuryteit just showed connection speed and ip address.. no data there for modem configs03:30
neoYa sorry, my mistake.03:30
Linux_Galoreneo: yeah, I added another 512meg on the last update03:30
Xcellsystem.network settings..go from there03:30
Linux_Galoreneo: mainly sue to firefox sucking up my ram03:30
Linux_Galoredue*03:30
Xcellsys admin.net settings03:30
Linux_Galoreneo: 512m of ram is dirt cheap right now03:31
neoYa it does that and I am definitely upping my ram03:31
path_Need to get 583MB/597MB of archives.03:31
neoI have p3 I wonder if it supports 1g ram03:31
path_thats pretty nice03:31
deuryte403:31
Xcellk03:31
Linux_Galoreneo: firefox 3 is fixing the ram problem03:31
Linux_GaloreI think firefox 3 is on the repo too03:32
neothat would be nice and I can't wait to use it, I love FF.03:32
nyorkpath: so you are continuing the upgrade..?03:33
path_yep doing an dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 I guess03:33
posingaspopularhey all, any way to transfer an .avi file to an ipodvideo?03:33
path_gutsy if Im not mistaken nyork ?03:33
deurytethe configs on this setup are no where near the same.........03:33
nyorkneo: i think it do support 1gb...03:33
Xcellk03:33
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: hmm there is a kde app that does that, hold on let me get the link03:33
ubuntuHola.. Quien habla español???03:34
posingaspopular!es03:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:34
neoWell guys thanks, esp. Linux_Galore. I wish someday I could help others with Linux and be like you guys. You rock.03:34
Xcellboot kubuntu and press alt+f2 and enter kppp...se ya there/03:34
nyorkpath: 7.10 is gutsy...03:34
neoLove you, love FF, love linux and love Open Source.03:34
deuryteon ubuntu, all i had to do was get it to look at the modem, set it up with name and #... it took off.........03:34
n1ghtm4r3Hellloooo everybody03:34
Xcell^03:34
deuryte403:34
deurytebrb in 10 if fail03:35
Xcellk03:35
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Hyper+Video+Converter?content=6778103:35
posingaspopularthank Linux_Galore. i know it's possible, but i dont know the exact infomation03:35
ubuntuGracias ubotu03:35
Xcellubotu smart03:35
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager03:35
Xcelloi03:35
* Linux_Galore is collecting karma +1 bits for xmas03:36
Xcelllol03:36
posingaspopularthanks03:37
Linux_GaloreI tried smart, total crap03:37
XcellIt wasent ment 2 be..lol03:37
* Linux_Galore mv smart stupid03:37
Xcellhiccup!03:38
larrywellshow do you mount cdrom03:39
nosrednaekimlarrywells: "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt"03:40
awaganyone here have experience with sudden system freezes in gutsy?03:40
Xcellbeat it to death....j/k03:40
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: this is even better and its ipod specific http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Avi+2+iPod+%2B+PSP+%28mp4%29?content=569103:41
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: this I have used it works pretty well and even loads the file onto the ipod afterwards http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/thin+liquid+film?content=5167803:43
n1ghtm4r3alright this is weird03:43
n1ghtm4r3i just reinstalled Kubuntu , completly03:44
Xcellnice03:44
Xcellnow fix it.03:44
n1ghtm4r3i installed Kubuntu restricted stuff03:44
n1ghtm4r3flash still dont work ... wtf03:44
Xcelland03:44
Xcellopen the ff browser and go to a known flash site and it will prompt you03:45
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: be careful there are two versions of flash on the repo make sure you install the adobe one03:45
n1ghtm4r3xcell: i dont have firefox03:45
Xcellinstall it..it will work universally..do it from add remove/internet03:46
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: ie install flash-plugin-nonfree03:46
Dr_willisis that bug/md5 issue with flash still going on?03:46
n1ghtm4r3it keeps saying me that another process is using the database ... WTF03:47
Linux_Galorewell I dont have any flash issues03:47
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: do you have an other adept sessions open ?03:48
n1ghtm4r3Linux_galore: not realy03:48
Linux_Galoreanother*03:48
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: it wont allows two sessions03:48
Xcelln1ghtm4r3: ..do a (sudo apt get update..when error appears do this..03:49
Xcell!aptfix03:49
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:49
posingaspopularLinux_Galore: i have this msg:  You are not using "bash" as your default shell.  This is most likely because you are using Ubuntu which links the default shell to the "dash" shell.  See http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=59 on how to fix this.  thinliquidfilm won't work properly unless you fix this.03:49
posingaspopularany idae?03:49
posingaspopularwill it matter?03:49
rob_all aptitude related programs will not acess the internet, how do I fix this?03:50
Xcell!aptfix03:50
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:50
rob_that's not the problem03:50
Xcelloh03:50
Dr_willishow to fix it? heh tghe fix is for them to do their shell scripts right. :)03:50
hydrogenposingaspopular: see the link in the message you pasted?03:50
rob_the aptitude programs function correctly03:50
rob_just they won't acess the internet03:50
rob_I can reinstall programs who's packages have already been downloaded03:51
hydrogenalthough their justificationis are a bit not at all right03:51
rob_I can uninstall programs03:51
Dr_willisthat 'fix' for fixing dash/bash is totally wrong  in its 'reasons'03:51
hydrogenyes03:51
rob_but apdept manager, apt-get, adept updater, aptitude, etc will not access the internet03:52
rob_can anyone help me?03:52
Dr_willisand its wrong in how to propely set /bin/sh to be bash. :003:52
XcellDr_willis: it is a fix for those just starting..and will allow them to continue.03:52
hydrogenno03:52
Dr_willisXcell,  yes. but theres  the proper way to fix it.. then there his changes03:52
hydrogenit is a broken03:52
Dr_willis!dash03:52
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash03:52
XcellDr_willis:  post the fix then.03:52
Dr_willisHeh that factoid has a typo also.03:52
hydrogen /bin/sh is required to be a posix shell03:53
Dr_willisif the script uses BASH then it shoudl call bash with #!/bin/bash   NOT #!/bin/sh03:53
hydrogennot a bash shell03:53
rob_#room03:53
rob_ok so can anyone help me?03:53
Dr_willisthe scripts are using 'bash' features - which do not exist in sh.03:53
rob_this is a serious problem... I was thinking of reinstalling linux but then I'd have to start from scratch and I'd rather not do that03:53
XcellNicely done03:54
XcellDr_willis:03:54
rob_!adept03:54
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:54
Dr_willisthe proper way to change dash to bash is ---->  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash03:54
XcellBut: beginners cant get that far and are not afforded that info on a daily basis.03:54
hydrogenXcell: so the scripts need to behave properly03:55
Dr_willisXcell,  totally wrong.. that sites fix had them doing all sorts of things...03:55
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure dash   --> asks a Simple YES/NO03:55
rob_HELP03:55
hydrogenrob_: be patient03:55
Dr_willisthe true fix is for the scripts to quit relying on the bash 'bug' of allowing bash features when called as sh.03:55
rob_ok ok hydrogen I'll hold on03:55
Xcellk03:55
Dr_willisrob,  does 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' work?03:55
XcellBut like I said: Beginners who come here dont get that info readily.03:56
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: I found it didnt ,atter03:56
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: matter*03:56
XcellI never seen it till U just posted it Dr_willis03:56
Dr_willisXcell,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash  = - is much more clear then their fix.. and the script writers need to be told of the bug in their script.03:56
hydrogenXcell: they do if the friendly people who answer questions answer it03:56
hydrogen!dash shows it properly03:57
Dr_willisXcell,  when they first did the dash change. there was a lot of scriopts that got broke.03:57
Xcellhydrogen: That is a rarity.03:57
Dr_willismost of them that i know are now fixed.03:57
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: easy to change the default back to bash though sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash03:57
Dr_willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh explains the reasons and  issues.03:57
XcellThanks Dr_willis.03:58
XcellThat should be the fix that ubotu should show.03:58
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Dr_willisThe fix at the liquid weather site.. leads me to belive the guy dident research the dash   program/problem very much.  :)03:59
Dr_willisyea theres a typo in the bots factoid it seems03:59
Dr_willis!dash03:59
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash03:59
XcellDr_willis:  U have experience..beginners do not..have a little mercy.03:59
posingaspopularah i see.. thanks guys03:59
Dr_willisThats  the 'core' of the bugs with lots of scripts.. but theres other things to watch for.03:59
posingaspopularit doesn't matter atm because ubutnu decided to not see or mount my ipod again. whatever i'll deal with this some other time04:00
Dr_willisXcell,  i dident make the incorrect howto at that site. Im jut explaining how its wrong.04:00
Xcellk04:00
XcellMy apologizies04:00
Dr_willisi was about to post to their forum to give them the proper info.. but i aint going to register for that. :)04:00
XcellDont blame ya04:00
Zombocomok this is rob_04:01
Zombocomsomeone just kicked me off of that nickname04:01
hanzouHi, I am trying to use doxygen w/ default options.04:01
hanzouIt generates colored code html...04:01
gabriel__Hi from Mexico04:01
XcellZomb: bill gates is atching you.04:01
hanzoubut no function lists or classlists. How do I get it to do the cool stuff?04:01
Xcellwatching04:02
Zombocomthis nick is registered to me04:02
n1ghtm4r3wow i think my conection is angry at me lol04:02
Zombocomso Bill Gates can't to crap to me04:02
Zombocomexuse my french04:02
Xcelllol04:02
Xcellj/k Zomb.04:02
n1ghtm4r3Tu parle français Zombocom?04:03
XcellDr_willis: Could I enter that info and continue as is right now?04:03
Linux_GaloreI have an old machine running winxp, mainly so I can connect some of my weird portable devices04:03
Linux_Galoremy desktop is Linyx04:03
Zombocomdamint I'm having more and more odd problems04:03
Linux_GaloreLinux*04:03
XcellZombocom: U on 64 bit?04:04
Dr_willisXcell,  i got it straight from  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh , its the 'proper' way to set /bin/sh to be bash or dash on a ubuntu system. :)04:04
Zombocomyes Xcell as a matter of fact I am04:04
Xcellk Dr_willis thanks man.04:04
Linux_GaloreI must admit though I rarely use the winXP machine for connecting stuff anymore04:05
SuprUsrDoes anyone know of command that would display the file size of an entire directory?04:05
Dr_willisand i Have edited some of those wiki pages. :)   not many but some.04:05
XcellGood job.04:05
Linux_Galorethere is a weird way of transfering video file to your ipod, use Amarok, Im not kidding it works04:06
XcellZombocom: I used the 32 bit kubuntu to avoid problems when learning linux..that was a personal decision.04:06
ZombocomI'm not really learning04:06
Zombocomnormally I can maintain a system pretty well04:06
Linux_Galoreonly down side is it doesnt name the file properly on the ipod04:06
Zombocomit's when stuff like this happens04:06
ZombocomI'm going to uninstall something that I think could be at fault here04:07
Linux_Galorebut you can see the video file on the ipod and play it04:07
XcellDo the 32 bit thing..you will be much happier.04:07
NickPrestaSuprUsr, du -c --si -max-depth=0 DIR `man du` for more information04:07
Zombocomthis wouldn't be that big an annoyance had I not just uninstalled kdm04:07
Dr_willisSuprUsr,  'du -hs' is what i often use in a dir04:07
Zombocomby a freak accident04:07
Zombocom!aptfix04:08
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »04:08
Linux_GaloreI find sudo dpkg --configure -a on its own works most of the time04:09
NickPrestaSuprUsr, listen to Dr_willis. I forgot about "summarize" :)04:09
deurytexcell04:09
Xcellya04:10
Dr_willisheh heh..04:10
SuprUsrDr_willis: Thanks.04:10
Dr_willisMy Bash Prompt shows me the amount of Files in the current dir. :)04:10
SuprUsrAnyway to concactenate the "music04:10
SuprUsr?04:10
Dr_williswillis@MythBox:~(2650.329 Mb)$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash04:10
deuryteno go, keeps hangin in the initialize state. then drops out after 1.5 min04:10
Dr_willissee i got 2650 mb in that dir. :)04:10
SuprUsrI just want a number and k/m/GB04:11
Xcellk bring tomorrow afternoon and will fix.04:11
Dr_willisdu -hs --->  du -hs04:12
Dr_willis194G    .04:12
Dr_williswow i got a lot of G's04:12
deurytethere seems to be no modem commands in the modem command screen.....04:12
SuprUsrDr_willis: It prints out "24G<tab>music"04:12
XcellDr_willis: Please walk deuryte so he can use dialup on kubuntu..thanks.04:13
SuprUsrCan I use grep to trim out the "<tab>music"?04:13
deurytei also looked for the kppp wizard.  it didnt have one04:13
deurytethe kppp handbook said it did.  didnt see it04:14
Zombocomcrap04:15
XcellDeuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it.04:16
Zombocom!linux04:16
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux04:16
Dr_willisi aint used a modem in years...04:16
Zombocom!gnu/linux04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnu/linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:16
Dr_willis:)04:16
Zombocomsomeone needs to fix that04:16
Zombocom!gnu\linux04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnu\linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:16
Zombocomuh oh04:16
Zombocom!gnu04:16
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org04:16
deuryte404:16
SuprUsr!botabuse04:16
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.04:16
Zombocomok ok04:16
Xcell!kppp04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:16
Xcell!dialup04:17
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up04:17
Zombocomaptitude will not acess the internet still04:17
ZombocomI uninstalled a program called anon-proxy in the hopes that it was the culprit04:17
deuryteKNetworkManager??  where is that??04:17
Xcell!KNetworkManager04:18
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up04:18
Dr_willis just installing a proxy wouldent set everything to be using that proxy04:18
Dr_willisZombocom,  but other apps work?04:18
ZombocomDr_willis: I'm connected to irc through the same operating system, so I assume so04:18
Dr_willisZombocom,  how about the web browser?04:19
ZombocomDr_willis also pidgin and Konqueror work04:19
Dr_willisHmm..04:19
Dr_willisso if you do a 'sudo apt-get install mc'   what happens?04:19
XcellDeuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it.04:20
hanzouHow do I get doxygen to list functions & classes & variables? By default it seems to only color-code source files.04:20
ZombocomE: Couldn't find package mc04:20
Zombocomthat's what I get04:20
deuryte2604:20
Dr_willisZombocom,  ok. and try a 'sudo apt-get update'04:21
Zombocomthis is the full output Dr_willis:04:21
ZombocomReading package lists... Done04:21
ZombocomBuilding dependency tree04:21
ZombocomReading state information... Done04:21
ZombocomE: Couldn't find package mc04:21
hydrogen!pastebin04:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:21
deurytew2ktu......04:21
Dr_willisThat was it? it dident spit out a lot of messages?04:22
Xcellnot04:22
Zombocomit spit out a lot of messages04:22
Zombocomtwo lines of which is04:22
ZombocomErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg04:22
Zombocom  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)04:22
Dr_willisAHA! thats a clue!04:22
Dr_willisit is trying to connect to localhost, thus does seem set to be using some sort of proxy04:22
deurytew3.1tu....04:22
XcellDr_willis: Take a hike.04:22
Zombocomok ok I'll restart linux04:23
ZombocomI just got rid of a program called anon-proxy04:23
Zombocomwhat else should I be looking for?04:23
Zombocoma firewall program?04:23
SuprUsrDoes anyone have an idea on how to trim the directory label the output of du -hs?04:24
sakthianhi04:24
deurytez---zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   whoa??  ok, ok  im awake.........04:24
SuprUsrCurrently, it prints "<filesize><tab><directorylabel>",  want only "<filesize>"04:24
Dr_willisZombocom,  im curious as to if some how your apt settings got set to use a proxy.04:25
sakthianhow to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system04:25
ZombocomDr_willis: I installed anon-proxy and another program called smproxy04:25
Dr_willisZombocom,  check the /etc/apt/sources.list file  , see if they have some entrys that mention 4001 and so forth..04:25
Dr_willisZombocom,  yea. but i dont think just installing a proxy server would edit the system settings like that.04:26
Zombocomoh shit...04:26
ZombocomI'm introuble04:26
Xcelllool keep lisrening to Dr_willis..lol04:27
Zombocomalmost everything is gone04:27
Zombocomin the systems part of the kicker04:27
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Zombocomoh god04:27
Xcellenjoy.04:28
ZombocomXcell...04:28
Zombocomwhat happened04:28
Xcellya04:28
Zombocomadept_manager is gone04:28
Zombocomadept_updater is gone04:28
maduser...............04:28
maduserwow um...04:29
Zombocomthis program shouldn't even exist04:29
maduseryeah...04:29
Xcellsudo apt-get touch /forcefsck   and re boot to make files repaired.04:29
XcellThats all I know.04:29
Zombocominvalid operation touch04:29
Xcelloi04:30
Dr_willisThat sounds bad Zombocom  -    You dont have anything super imporntant on the system do ya?04:30
Dr_willisIf so i'd be backing up stuff right now.04:30
ZombocomDr_willis not really...04:30
Zombocomstarcraft is on this drive though...04:30
ZombocomI kinda like starcraft04:30
Xcellpush the reset buton..hurry04:30
Dr_willis'sudo toucn /forcefsck' i think is the right command.04:30
Xcelllol04:30
Dr_willis'sudo touch /forcefsck' i think is the right command.04:30
Zombocomno returns04:31
Zombocomgeesus04:31
Zombocomjeesus04:31
Dr_willisthat makes a file on the / that  will make the system check the filesystem on next boot.. if no error came out.. thats good.04:31
Xcelljust reboot and enter it and reboot..no worries04:31
Zombocomlol04:31
Zombocomok this is bad04:31
Zombocomdo I shut down normally?04:31
Dr_willisnot as bad as it first sounded..04:31
Dr_willis:)04:31
XcellRe boot dont be silly04:31
Zombocomok have linux shutdown or do I just do an unclean reboot04:32
Xcellyour sys is adjar...reboot04:32
Dr_willisjust have it reboot04:32
Zombocomlol04:32
sakthian how to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system04:32
SuprUsr!source04:32
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html04:32
SuprUsrOh, wait.04:32
Dr_willissakthian,  why are you installing xmms from source in the first place?04:32
Dr_willis!info xmms04:33
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB04:33
SuprUsrOld version?04:33
Zombocomok 1 or 2... 1 as in hold down shutdown untill system powers off by force or 2 enter sudo shutdown -r now in the terminal04:33
Dr_willisxmms  is not that old. :)04:33
SuprUsrWell, I dunno?04:33
SuprUsrAnyway.04:33
Dr_willisxmms IS old.. i mean.. and its proberly best to  start using some other tools.. :) but the version in the repo is not that old from the one he has.04:33
SuprUsrDr_willis: How do you trim out the directory name when you run "du -hs"04:33
Xcellsudo shutdown -r now04:33
Zombocomkk04:34
Dr_willisSuprUsr,  what dir name?04:34
Dr_willisdu -hs04:34
Dr_willis80K     .04:34
Dr_willisyou mean the . ?04:34
SuprUsr24G     .04:34
SuprUsrYes.04:34
Dr_willisguess ya could use awk for that.04:34
SuprUsrThe dot.04:34
Xcellwaits.04:34
Dr_willischeck the du options - it may have it also.04:34
SuprUsrDr_willis: I did. Nothing seems to be in there. :/04:35
Dr_willisdu -s04:35
Dr_willis20301247204:35
Dr_willisoh wait it had the . also. :) heh04:35
SuprUsrOr else I'm not looking hard enough... I've stared at the manpage for du for a few minutes.04:35
SuprUsrI thought grep might be able to do it, but I guess not. :/04:36
Dr_willisgrep prints out lines matching a pattern.04:36
SuprUsrYeah.04:36
Dr_willisawk/sed edit input out.04:36
XcellZombocom  hasnt returned..oi.04:37
Dr_willisdu -s | awk '{print $1}'04:37
Dr_willis20301247204:37
Dr_willis:P04:38
SuprUsrDr_willis: Awesome.04:38
SuprUsrThanks. :)04:38
sakthianhow to install .tar.gz04:38
Dr_willisawk is worth learning a bit of..04:38
Dr_willissakthian,  uncompress it.. read its docs..  installthe needed libs/C compiler. do the './configure make, and make install'  procedure04:38
maduserwhats that other program similar to awk  is it called sed?04:39
Dr_willissed and awk sort of are like... salt and pepper. :)04:39
Dr_willisboth work well together. :)04:39
madusersed is easier to use04:39
Dr_willisbut ya often perfer one to the other.04:39
madusertrue04:40
Dr_willisYep. sed is good for a lot of the similer needs.04:40
maduserbut can't awk do more?04:40
Dr_willisperl can also do a lot of things.04:40
Dr_willisawk is... sort of amazing in what it can do.04:40
madusermore amazing then sed?04:40
Dr_willisI have the using sed/awk book.04:40
maduserah04:40
Dr_willisYes. awk is much more amazing/flexiable/powerfull then sed04:40
maduserI learned how to sort of use it off of the acm04:40
maduseronline courses04:41
Linux_Galoreawk supports more complex commands better than sed I find04:41
Dr_willisi belive ive seen games written in awk. :)04:41
Dr_williswritten by SICK people! :)04:41
maduserthere are lots of things created by sick people04:41
maduserin many senses04:42
Linux_Galoresame people who write lisp games heh04:42
Dr_willishttp://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm04:42
Dr_willisnot sure how legal that url is.. :)04:42
maduserthe same people who made........04:42
maduserufdsfasdffhdhhsdffhdtht04:43
maduserdam04:43
maduseri just slamed my keyboard04:43
maduserwoops04:43
awaganyone have problems with compiz fusion causing a total system freeze on a regular basis?04:43
maduserno04:43
awag:)04:43
awagmine was working fine for about a month04:43
awagand then last week it started freezing randomly04:43
maduserthen what?04:43
Linux_Galoreyes04:44
maduserah04:44
awagi havn't changed anything to my knowledge04:44
maduserI still have time left for that04:44
awaganother thing that is interesting, at around the time my system started freezing randomly, firefox also stopped saving my previous sessions04:45
awageven though i have it set to restore session on start04:45
maduserhmmm04:46
Xcellinteresting04:46
awagyes04:46
awaghehe04:46
awagit sucks04:46
Xcellrestart xorg?04:46
maduserlots of things suck04:47
Xcellre config xorg?04:47
awagwell, everything seems to be working fine just using kwin though04:47
maduserdunno04:47
awagand compiz seems to work perfect as well, just after about 30 min of using it04:48
awagit freezes04:48
awagmaybe vid card overheating?04:48
Xcellya04:48
awagit is odd, if i boot up with compiz04:48
Xcellprolly04:48
awagand then go away, and don't use my computer04:48
awagit is fine04:48
maduserhow old is your computer?04:48
awagbut then if i start using it04:48
awagand spinning my cube and shit04:48
awagit will die without fail04:48
awagin about 30 - 1 h04:48
Dr_willisspinning your cube can cause blindness...04:49
Dr_willis:)04:49
awaghahaa04:49
Xcelllol card is tired.04:49
Dr_willisdare i suggest just disabling compiz ?04:49
Dr_willis:P04:49
maduseryou could04:49
awagwell, see, the thing is, when i'm doing homework and stuff, i sometimes like to be able to wobble my windows, and distract myself04:49
maduserah04:50
Xcelllol04:50
Dr_williswindow wabbling can cause blindness...04:50
Zombocomdear god it fixed nothing04:50
ZombocomI'm reinstalling kubuntu04:50
Dr_willis:)  My wife made me turn off Wobbly windows for her.04:50
awaghaha04:50
awagmy gf thinks it's cool04:50
Zombocomand never taking advice from Dr_willis04:50
awagand wishes windows could do it04:50
Dr_willisZombocom,  or check your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt config file.04:50
maduserthere are much worse things in thois world then reinstalling kubuntu04:50
Dr_willisZombocom,  whatever ya want.. have fun.04:50
awaglol04:50
Xcellsudo touch /forcefsck        see if U can now.04:50
ZombocomXcell I did that04:51
Dr_willisGuess i will stop researching the problem.04:51
Dr_willisAre the menus and things still messed up?04:51
Xcellsudo apt-get clean     ?04:51
awagman, i bought this video card just so i could use compiz-fusion too04:52
Xcellhow old04:52
awagis there an app i can use to see the temp of an nvidia card in kubuntu?04:52
Zombocomlook it up on adept_manager04:52
awagagp geforce 6600 256 mb04:52
Zombocomsomething I cannot do anymore04:52
Xcellawag    htop04:53
awagXcell, k thanks04:53
maduserwell Zombocom your screwed04:54
Zombocomthanks maduser04:54
Xcelllol i smell re- install/04:54
Zombocomexactly Xcell04:54
Zombocomlol04:54
Xcellthis time use 32 bit04:54
ciaconhi all... I was wondering, if the standard kubuntu install is applyed to a core2duo...04:55
kdehelphello04:55
kdehelpy can't I install Kde on my computer04:56
Xcell?04:56
ZombocomKDE 4?04:56
kdehelpI try to use synaptic04:56
Dr_williskdehelp,  just use 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'04:56
kdehelpcant find kde in search04:56
kdehelpill try04:56
Dr_willisinstall 'kubuntu-desktop' not 'kde'04:56
Xcellya04:57
awagoh, stupid me, nvidia-settings shows temp04:57
Xcelloi04:57
Xcelllol04:57
Dr_willisZombocom,  you may want to check your  /etc/apt.conf    to see if it has any proxy settings, and your /etc/apt/sources.list04:57
awaghmm, only 42 degrees04:58
path_what mirror is fast ?04:58
XcellI quit useing graphic cards..on board video for me..less expense and headaches/04:58
awaglets see what happens when i reenable compiz04:58
path_ubuntu.com seems pretty slow04:58
ZombocomDr_willis I don't have many of the core applications that come with kubuntu anymore04:59
ZombocomI uninstalled a proxifying program that somehow treed up to core aplications04:59
Dr_willisZombocom,  thats... odd...04:59
Zombocomand uninstalled them04:59
Zombocomyes it is04:59
Xcelldony use ubuntu..use a another ubuntu uses 50k max only.04:59
ZombocomKonqueror04:59
Zombocomis gone04:59
Dr_willisZombocom,  how did you uninstall them?04:59
ZombocomKopete is gone04:59
Xcellhahhah04:59
ZombocomI uninstalled something calles smproxy or something04:59
Xcell2 funny04:59
Zombocomsmanon04:59
Zombocomos some thing like that04:59
Dr_willisHOW did you uninstallit? with adept? or from the command line?05:00
Zombocomsm something05:00
Zombocomadept manager05:00
awagnice, already up 3 degrees05:00
Zombocomthen all of a sudden adept_manager dissapeared05:00
Dr_willisso adept some how removed itself. :)05:00
ZombocomI look and adept manager is gone05:00
SuprUsrSomeone name a decent manufacturer of portable media players? (Besides Apple.)05:00
Zombocomadept is still there05:00
Dr_willistry 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' perhaps..05:00
Xcellzom...download 32 bit...works well on 64 bit comp...no worries.05:00
Dr_willisif apt now works..05:00
ZombocomXcell it's the principle of it all05:00
ZombocomDr_willis I still have the problem where adept doesn't acess the internet05:01
XcellI know but still....why punnish yourself.05:01
Dr_willisZombocom,  well now the question.. do you want to try to fix it..or just reinstall the os...05:01
maduseri would sugest reinstall05:01
Zombocomreinstall sounds like it would take far less time05:01
kdehelplooks like it worked,,,thx05:01
kdehelpIm going to relg in and seell05:02
Xcellgood job kde  bravo.05:02
ZombocomXcell I on the other hand have failed05:02
awaghmm, temp is still only 46 C after spinning the cube for a minute or so, that should be a fine temp for it to run at i think..05:02
Xcellnah z  ur just fine05:03
Xcellsudo apt-get remove./bill gates.05:03
Zombocomsudo apt-get remove ./steve jobs05:03
Xcelllol05:03
Dr_willisi wouldent think the  6600 video card would have much of a heat issue.. Unless you are in bad need of a cooling fan or 2.05:03
Xcellz do the 32 bit and be (happy) done with it.........already.05:04
Dr_willisi would also say - stick with the 32bit disrtos unless you know you have a need for 64bit stuff.05:05
awagDr_willis, yeah i can't believe heat would be the problem, i have quite a few fans, and the temps seem to be fine, and i opened the case and put a room fan next to it just in case05:05
ZombocomNO Xcell I DEMAND THE PAIN05:06
Xcelllolo  un necessary05:06
Xcellawag05:06
Xcellz  pinch me..hurry........no waiting.05:06
* Zombocom pinches Xcell05:07
Xcellfeels 32 bit ticklness.05:07
Dr_willisawag,  could of been some update to compiz that is causing issues/memory leaks leading to crashing.. with compiz its hard to tell.05:07
Xcellgood point...mem leak05:08
Dr_willisand your cube spinning maybe making it leak faster - due to centripital force. :)05:08
Xcellplug it with more room fans....lol.05:08
Xcellmaybe a mem test?..all I know.05:09
Xcellz...stop talking so fast..k?05:10
n1ghtm4r3back .. conection went nut05:11
n1ghtm4r3had to reconfigure everything lol05:11
Xcellbravo.05:11
awaghmmm05:12
awagthis time it died a slow death05:12
awagwhere i was able to actually move the mouse while it was dying05:13
awagand i could back out to a terminal and run top05:13
awagand compiz was taking like 70% cpu05:13
Xcellit would on startup05:14
Xcellbut d htop..u can quit sessions at will.05:14
Xcelldo05:14
omaretehola05:20
Xcellbutter05:20
awaghi05:20
Xcell!es05:20
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:20
omaretehi??05:20
omaretehola05:20
awaghola05:21
omaretenecesito algo d ayuda jeje05:21
awag!es05:21
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:21
omaretemmmmmmmm olvide como se hacia para mover como un cubo el escritorio d kde05:21
awaglol05:21
Xcellomarete:  we dont speak and dont understand..K?05:22
Dr_willis!es | omarete05:23
ubotuomarete: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:23
Xcellk?05:24
XcellBoaring for a sat nite.05:27
n1ghtm4r3_Beam me up Scotty!05:28
Xcellno waiting.05:28
mactallaHey there.  Could anyone tell me how to get the FLAC encoder for K3B?  (Kubuntu 7.10)05:28
* awag is updating random packages in hopes that they will fix his compiz problems05:28
n1ghtm4r3_mactalla do a barrel roll05:29
Xcelllol awag...wrong answer.05:29
n1ghtm4r3_no lol im kidding05:29
awag:)05:29
mactallan1ghtm4r3_: if that would work, I'd do it :)05:29
n1ghtm4r3_mactala: hehehe ^05:30
Xcellgoogle it.'05:30
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n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: so flash still seems not to be working05:33
mactallaMmm... looks like it's missing from my KDE install entirely (no FLAC in audiocd:/, either).  Can't figure out what package I've missed, though.05:33
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: any idea?05:33
Xcellmactalla: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=3446805:33
Xcelln1ghtm4r3 32 bit?05:34
XcellTalk to me05:34
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: yep05:34
Xcellhave fire fox?05:34
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: yep05:35
Xcell!flash05:35
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:35
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: already did all that05:35
Xcellwhat happens05:35
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: in fact its installed on FF , on Konq when i try to load a flash it gives me a blank grey square05:36
mactallaXcell: thanks.  I'm looking through that now to see if there's anything beyond "install flac"  I did find a bug on launchpad that looks like my problem... but no response to it.05:36
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XcellN1ghtm4r3:  go to crooksandliars.com  and report back..i Use that site as a test due to that it uses all codec.05:38
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: whenever i close or refresh a page with a flash on it i get an error message , googled it and i got this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9057005:44
deurytexcell sleeping??05:46
Xcellstand by.05:46
n1ghtm4r3_?05:50
Xcelln1ghtm4r3 U sure U R useig fire fox?05:51
deuryteno.  ice box05:52
mactallaFound it, the 'flac' package (not libflac) was needed, then it showed up under 'external codec' instead of being named.05:52
XcellI see no bugs for ff only konq05:52
Xcellnice mactalla.05:52
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Xcellhey due.05:54
Xcellmountaindue.05:54
path_E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.05:54
path_whats that? :/05:54
path_I know its an error eheh05:54
n1ghtm4r3_xcell: no i said it works on firefox but not on konq05:55
Xcellah  then u must go to konq and look through plugins and see if it sees ff plugins as a ref05:56
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: we did that yesterday , i believe it does05:56
Xcellits a switch some where..just go through all the settings and see if u missed something..thats all i can do for right now..05:58
deurytexcell, any thoughts on my delemma??05:58
Xcellu r a dilemmmmmma.05:58
Xcelllol05:58
Xcelljust stop by your nearest dialup dealer and donate...you should receive instructions via snail mail.06:00
deuryteis that next dooe to the w2k green box??06:00
deuryteto the *06:00
Xcellya  they dont take american xpress though.06:01
deurytemaybe some bill gate gift certificates06:01
Xcellsudo apt-get remove./bill gates06:01
deurytehe he he he06:02
deuryteok, times up. zzzzzzzzzzz-zzzzzzzzzzzzzz06:02
Xcellim wore out right now..cant think straight...tired.06:02
deuryteinebriated??06:03
Xcellno...tired06:03
deuryteinhibitions toxic ??06:03
Xcelldid u finnish vid?06:04
deurytenegative, got lamblasted with other schtuff.........06:04
Xcellk06:04
deurytewill do when i can mentally fit it all together........06:05
Xcellsleepig usually does that06:05
the-ermanyone know off the top of their head how to change the volume up/down step percentage?06:05
the-ermkmix doesn't really have an option for it.06:05
deurytedo they make remotes for pc's ??06:05
XcellI havent seen 1 the-erm06:06
the-ermdeuryte: I have a gyration media center remote - basically a usb keyboard - really nice I can press next from anywhere in the house really nice when you have wireless headphones.06:06
deurytety. key board is the control head ??06:07
the-ermWorks out of the box, but you might need to set up a few things in ~/.Xmodmap06:07
Xcellwireless phones cook brain cells.06:07
the-ermA computer monitor probably cooks brain cells ...06:07
deurytethankx the-erm06:07
Xcelllol06:07
Xcellrf maround the cranium is nutritious.06:08
Xcellaround06:08
deurytesee ya !!06:10
Xcellk..3 or better06:10
deuryte406:10
deuryte2606:10
Xcellk06:10
deuryte1014806:10
deuryte10-4806:10
Xcell2606:11
Xcell5106:11
deuryte10-98 bed06:11
* maduser is listening to Come together by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok]06:22
maduserhello?06:23
maduserto see somthing cool, open a query with yourself06:24
maduserot even says in the conerner talikg to yourself06:25
dreaminglol06:25
maduserits quite funny06:25
maduserit looks like someone is repeating everything you say06:26
* maduser is listening to Eleanor Rigby by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok]06:26
crimsun(please don't spam the channel with song status updates ;)06:27
maduseri didn't think anyone was on06:27
hydrogenwhich.. one would think... would make you less likely to spam it06:29
maduserits like talking to yourself when no one is on06:29
dreamingI guess it's like whistling.06:29
madusersort of06:29
hydrogenexcept much less appropriate06:30
maduseryeah06:30
maduserill open a query with myself06:30
dreamingWhat's the keyboard shortcut for changing desktops?06:30
maduserin compiz?06:30
dreamingno, just normal kubuntu06:30
dreamingcompiz doesn't like me06:31
maduseroh?06:31
dreamingmakes taskbars disappear lol06:31
maduseryou don't have a teme manager06:31
maduserwhen you download compiz you also have to install emerald06:31
hydrogencompiz is really not worth the effort06:31
maduserif you don't there will be no taskbar06:31
maduserit makes your computer look cool06:32
maduserbrag to all your firends who use windows06:32
neville__I have Compiz running fine =/06:32
neville__Didn't need any effort06:32
madusersame here06:32
XcellI queried myself...no one showed up.06:34
maduserare you registered?06:34
Xcellj/k06:34
maduser?06:34
sub[t]rnlXcell: hehe06:35
Xcellregistered nut.06:35
maduserdouble click yorself06:35
maduserdouble click yourself06:35
Xcellit hurts06:35
madusersame here06:35
maduserhehe06:36
madusergod i'm tired06:36
Xcellsleeeeepy.06:37
madusersleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy06:37
Xcellu r sleeeeepy.06:37
maduseri am sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy06:37
Xcellsnorz06:37
maduseryeah06:37
Xcellstop Yawning.06:37
maduserthat helps06:38
maduserhmmm?06:39
madusermy computer is all messes up06:40
Xcellenjoy.06:40
maduserwhat?06:40
Xcelllol06:40
maduserdid you............06:40
madusernah06:40
Xcellya06:40
maduseroh06:40
maduserthis certanly is a problem06:41
Xcellwhat06:41
maduserI think my compter is trying to put me in a siezure06:41
Xcellhow06:41
maduserevery thing is flashing06:41
Xcellrefresh rate screwed up06:41
maduserwow its like a light show06:42
Xcell?06:42
madusernow my compter is all pink06:42
sub[t]rnltheres a fix in the repo's06:42
Xcellu smoke 2 mutch06:42
sub[t]rnlapt-get --purge remove acid06:42
maduserits so...............femimine06:42
sub[t]rnl+1 bad joke06:42
sub[t]rnl:/06:43
Xcelllol06:43
madusermy computers colors are all messed up06:43
maduserlets see...06:43
Xcellsuso remove maduser./06:43
Xcellsudo\06:43
maduser?06:43
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i transfer music to a phillips mp3 players06:44
Xcellinstall 2 paper cups ans some wire.06:44
Xcelland06:44
maduserlets try a refrese desktop06:44
maduserlets try a refresh desktop06:45
Jay-Oh-Enshut up meany06:45
Xcellj/k06:45
sub[t]rnlJay-Oh-En: its not getting recognized?06:45
sub[t]rnlwhen you just, plug it up06:45
Jay-Oh-Enhold on ill tell you06:45
bazhangJay-Oh-En: open amarok, then plug it in--it should be recognized06:46
maduserthe only mp3 player i have ever seen instantly work is a Rollei06:46
sub[t]rnlcause its the only one you have06:46
sub[t]rnlzing!06:46
Xcelllol06:46
sub[t]rnllol06:46
maduserno I have 706:46
sub[t]rnlwowsa06:47
maduserkubuntu treats it like a removeable flash drive06:47
madusersimiple to usr06:47
Xcellwow06:47
madusersimiple to use06:47
sub[t]rnlyeah, thats hal and d-bus hard at work06:47
maduseryeah06:47
bazhangall my mp3 players have been recognized--haven't tried the zune though :}06:47
sub[t]rnlzune.. isn't that a cell phone/mp3 player?06:48
sub[t]rnltype dealio.  Thought I saw it advertised on tv06:48
sub[t]rnlmaybe i'm way off06:48
maduseri don't think so06:48
bazhangzune is the ms ipod-killer heh06:48
maduserthe juke is06:48
northpunkanyone know hot to get the compiz to work on kubuntu 7.10?  i finally got the updates to get my nvida drivers to work.. but the commands for compiz don't work.  pm me06:49
sub[t]rnlwhat commands you using?06:50
Jay-Oh-Enno it doesnt06:50
sub[t]rnlJay-Oh-En: odd, does lsusb show anything?06:50
madusercompiz --relace?06:50
northpunkwell i am trying to use what ever they have in the control panel to activate.. like ctr alt down.. but nothing happens06:50
northpunkdone that06:50
northpunki spent the last 5 hours going through tutorials.. and every fix that seems to work for someone06:51
maduserdid you install the settings manager?06:51
northpunkand compiz-kde that doesn't install itself automatically. had to manually install that06:51
northpunkeven restarted X many a time06:52
maduserkde?06:52
sub[t]rnlthats not really needed06:52
sub[t]rnldoes ccsm bring up anything06:52
maduserthe kde window manager?06:52
northpunki am using kubuntu.. it uses the kmenu06:52
northpunkyeah it brings up the sttings control panel with scope, cube and everything06:52
maduserdo you use emerald?06:52
northpunkbut the commands that they state in the settings.. don't do anything06:52
northpunkhave emerald instaleld but it does nothing more then change my themes06:53
sub[t]rnlthats all emerald is, a decorator06:53
sub[t]rnljust like compiz-kde06:53
maduserI was wondering if he had the problem of no taskbar06:53
northpunkok well how do i get the cube, shimmer, add etc to work?06:53
sub[t]rnlis ps ax|grep compiz showing you its running?06:53
sub[t]rnlis "ps ax|grep compiz" showing you its running?06:53
sub[t]rnltrying not to confuse06:54
northpunkmy nvidia works at it is supposed to... but when i was in gnome and did the whole desktop effects thing.. it always told me it couldn't activate06:54
northpunkgrep compiz?06:54
sub[t]rnlrun that command06:54
sub[t]rnlps ax|grep compiz06:54
northpunk14206 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep compiz06:55
sub[t]rnlyeah, you havn't started it06:55
northpunkhow do i?06:55
sub[t]rnldo what maduser said06:55
sub[t]rnlcompiz --replace06:55
northpunki have done that many times.. hold on06:55
maduserdoes the screen turn black?06:55
northpunkChecking for Xgl: not present.06:55
northpunkDetected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0110 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])06:56
northpunkChecking for texture_from_pixmap: present.06:56
northpunkChecking for non power of two support: present.06:56
northpunkChecking for Composite extension: present.06:56
northpunkComparing resolution (1440x900) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed.06:56
northpunkChecking for nVidia: present.06:56
northpunkLess than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity06:56
northpunkno /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting06:56
northpunkmetacity?06:56
sub[t]rnlyeah06:56
maduserisn't that a window theme?06:56
sub[t]rnlgnome06:56
maduserah06:56
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install emerald06:56
northpunkand no it didn't go black06:56
northpunkemerald is already the newest version06:57
maduserso it does not work06:57
maduserdo you have it set as emerald as the window manager?06:57
northpunkhow do i do/check that?06:57
madusersettings manager06:58
sub[t]rnlor run emerald --replace06:58
northpunk"system settings"?06:58
maduserno06:58
madusersettings06:58
path_E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.06:58
path_Im still getting that message error06:58
Jay-Oh-Ensub[t]rnl: how do i get it to work06:58
maduseravanced desktop effects06:58
path_what can I do ?06:58
northpunkemerald --replace is just sitting there with no text or anything06:58
northpunknow my terminal isn't doing a thing06:59
bazhangnorthpunk: alt-f2 then emerald --replace07:01
maduseryeah07:01
maduserwait northpunk, you were doing everything in the terminal?07:01
madusernot the run command?07:01
northpunkgtk warning ** cannot open display07:02
sub[t]rnlfirst off, compiz isn't starting07:02
sub[t]rnlso no need to run emerald07:02
northpunkso do compiz there too07:02
northpunk?07:02
sub[t]rnlyou don't have your video card driver setup07:02
sub[t]rnl<northpunk> Less than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity07:02
northpunksamething about metacity not found07:02
northpunkmy nvidia is finally set up and working07:03
sub[t]rnlwell, compiz was made for gnome, so its trying to load the window manager (default in gnome is metacity)07:03
northpunki even get the 3d logo when i start kubuntu now07:03
sub[t]rnlbecause compiz is failing to start07:03
maduserug his compiz thinks he has ubuntu07:03
madusergot to change that07:03
northpunkyeah i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop still didn't work at all07:03
northpunkso i removed it again07:03
sub[t]rnlheh...07:03
* sub[t]rnl sighs07:03
sub[t]rnlpay attention to the errors that its giving you07:04
northpunki started with ubuntu server.. no desktop07:04
northpunkinstalled ubuntu desktop.. never worked07:04
northpunkthen i installed kubuntu because it lokos and runs better.. and runs povray hwo i want it too07:04
maduserit has nothing to do with the desktop07:04
northpunkso i should spend another hour waiting for ubuntu desktop to install again?07:04
maduserno07:05
northpunki mean gnome07:05
maduseryou got to change the settings so compiz uses emerald07:05
sub[t]rnlcompiz wont start07:05
northpunkbut everyone is telling me why this isn't working or why that isn't working.. no one has told me how to change that setting07:05
maduserwait07:06
northpunkit is all about finding what error messages i geet07:06
maduserare you like new to linux?07:06
neoguys when I use dcd to play cd the volume remains very low even with full cd volume in KMix07:06
neoWhy?07:06
northpunkfinal told xp to screw off because the bugs were to much07:06
sub[t]rnlneo: try alsamixer07:06
sub[t]rnlnorthpunk: you need xgl, compiz isn't loading because of your video card07:07
maduseryeah07:07
neosame results with alsamixer too07:07
northpunkxserverl-xgl?07:08
neoIs it my soundcard?07:09
sub[t]rnlare you using kde or gnome?07:09
northpunkkde07:09
neokde07:09
northpunki have installed and removed gnome so many times trying the different patches and things07:09
sub[t]rnlnorthpunk: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl. then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (or alt + ctrl + backspace)07:09
sub[t]rnlthen run compiz --replace07:09
northpunkand i know i can switch between the 2.. but gnome cluttered up my kstart with to many links07:09
maduserinstalling gonome won't do anything07:10
dreamingthat xserver seems to have done the trick for me as well07:10
northpunkok well xgl is installing still07:10
dreamingcheers07:10
northpunkbrb07:10
dreamingim brand brand new to linux :D07:10
sub[t]rnldreaming: welcome aboard07:10
maduserah07:11
sub[t]rnlneo: do you have volume issues with other apps? or just dcd07:11
Xcelldreaming: sudo apt-get remive./bill gates.07:11
neojudt dcd, others are fine07:11
Xcellno donnt07:12
sub[t]rnlneo: check the man pages, i havn't used it, i use mpg123 for console based players07:12
neook thanks07:12
maduservlc07:12
Xcellsub[t]rnl: Does that work well?07:12
sub[t]rnlyeah, i dig it07:12
XcellIll try that.07:13
sub[t]rnlwell, used too before linux desktops got so damn purdy07:13
sub[t]rnlnow i've abandoned my anti-xwindow ways07:13
maduserbefore x?07:13
sub[t]rnli started using linux in 96, we had x07:13
maduserah07:14
maduserbut it was really primitive?07:14
XcellI had 12 mhz in 96.07:14
sub[t]rnlyeah07:14
sub[t]rnlstill better than windows at the time though07:14
sub[t]rnlXcell: lol07:15
Xcellhe he07:15
Xcell28607:15
maduser95 was when windows was still....07:15
maduserusable?07:16
sub[t]rnli drink too much, i have trouble remembering this morning07:17
sub[t]rnl:/07:17
Xcelllol07:17
maduserthats bad07:17
sub[t]rnlyeah07:17
Xcellhiccup!07:17
maduserblackout07:17
sub[t]rnlwhats worse is when I have an external hard-drive filled with 5 years worth of logs07:17
sub[t]rnlcause my memory is so bad07:17
* sub[t]rnl pops a top07:17
Xcelllol  5 yrs of logs07:17
* maduser waits til he can drink07:18
sub[t]rnlwhen you start having to grep your ~/.bash_history, you know its getting bad07:18
Xcellsips tennesse 190 proof.07:18
maduserare you trying to kill yourself?07:18
northpunkmy desktop started to load and then... goes white with nothing but a curser in front of it... restarted a few times but i couldn't get it working normal again with out removing xserver-xgl07:19
purpleposeidonsub[t]rnl: It can't be too bad.... you still know know about ~.bash_history , right?07:21
sub[t]rnl+1 purpleposeidon07:21
northpunkwhen i ran the ps grep thing from alt f2.. i got a few lins of numbers07:21
northpunkbut like i siad... my desktop screen would go straight white when i tried to log on07:21
northpunkor after it loaded rather07:21
sub[t]rnlyou running gutsy?07:22
sub[t]rnlthis sounds like an old mesalib bug07:22
maduserthe curcial question07:22
northpunkso more input would be greatly appreciated07:23
sub[t]rnlyou first07:23
sub[t]rnlwhat version of kubuntu are you running?07:24
northpunkkubuntu gutsy gibbon07:24
northpunkso 7.1007:24
sub[t]rnlhrm07:25
sub[t]rnlnot sure broseph07:25
sub[t]rnli've never had a problem installing on nvidia cards07:26
sub[t]rnlati is another story07:26
sub[t]rnllspci |grep VGA07:26
sub[t]rnlsays what?07:26
maduseri use ati ad had no problems07:26
northpunkmy bigest problem WAS getting my invidia driver to install07:26
northpunkbut compiz website has a GREAT tuturial on installing nvidia, radiun, or intel07:27
sub[t]rnlmaduser: you using the current driver they put out?07:27
northpunkNOTHING on using kde07:27
sub[t]rnlcompiz wasn't made for kde07:27
northpunkbut you guys are telling me that i can get this to run on kde when i said i should just try installing gnome again..07:28
northpunkno one is telling me how to get emerald to work insead as was suggested07:28
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northpunkwas suggested.. but not assisted07:28
sub[t]rnlemerald is a window decorator for compiz07:28
northpunkthat has been stated as well07:28
sub[t]rnlok, thats i'm not telling you how to get emerald to work07:29
sub[t]rnlthats why07:29
sub[t]rnlneed compiz to work before we worry about window decorations07:29
northpunkbut someone says compiz won't work with kubuntu07:30
maduserbut doesn't his problem include the matacty themes?07:30
sub[t]rnlno one said that07:30
maduserah07:30
northpunkand they also said i don't have to use gnome07:30
northpunkso i am hearing 2 things neither help07:30
northpunki should try vista :S07:31
maduserI the past if i had a problem i would google it07:31
maduserI never had to use the chat room for help07:32
northpunki have been using google, ubuntuforums, kubuntuforums, and msn messanger for the last 6 hours now07:32
northpunknot one tetorial has helped07:32
northpunkwow my head hurts07:32
eltoronorthpunk : it worked for me but it slowed down my laptop, whick runned compiz and emerald well on ubuntu07:34
maduseryou know you don't have to use compiz07:34
maduserits just eyecandy07:35
eltoroi uninstalled it07:35
madusercool07:35
eltoroyeah but it's much fun show it to your frinds who use vista07:35
eltorohehe07:35
maduserthats the only reason i have it07:35
eltorothey're like whick windows is it07:36
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eltorohaha07:36
maduserare there things to wory about if you update your video card?07:36
eltoroim not a really advanced user but i dont you'd have probs07:37
eltorotry to google the name of your card with kubuntu problems bla bla if you dont find anything go ahead07:37
maduserlike form a really old ati to a new ati card]07:38
n1ghtm4r3_test07:41
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n1ghtm4r3_anyone still on lol?07:47
gadren_uh, hi07:48
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sub[t]rnlyo07:48
eltoromaduser like i said google it if people had problems07:50
eltoroyou'll see it07:50
eltoroyo07:50
n1ghtm4r3_whee ..07:54
n1ghtm4r3_tought my conection was dieying on me again07:54
eltorono there's not a lot of activity here at 3am et07:54
eltorohaha07:54
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posingaspopularyea im here08:26
posingaspopularnot really paying attention though08:26
n1ghtm4r3_OMG08:29
n1ghtm4r3_peoples are alive!08:29
n1ghtm4r3_!afk08:29
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines08:29
n1ghtm4r3_cool08:30
posingaspopularn1ghtm4r3_: that's why there are offtopic chans08:31
n1ghtm4r3_posingaspopular: yah but im a newbee to IRC's too .. im usualy a IM user08:31
posingaspopularah yea i was new to IRC a year ago08:32
posingaspopularnow i have irc, IM, gmail chat open..08:32
hatterwhat is the name of the low latency kernel for use with audio ?08:34
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: uh?08:38
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: i have no idea what your asking .. you want a good program to listen to music?08:39
n1ghtm4r3_mh anyone know what is the X Window ?08:41
hattern1ghtm4r3_, to run rosegarden a low latency kernel is needed08:45
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: what is rosegarden (dont mind me , im a Kubnoobto)08:46
hattern1ghtm4r3_, rosegarden is a midi sequencing program08:46
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: Oooooh then maybe you should consider Ubuntu Studios08:47
hattern1ghtm4r3_, yep, thats it, i just installed it , the kernel related is 1.6.22-14-rt08:48
hatter'2.6.22-14-rt'08:48
hattertime to reboot, hope it worked :)08:48
arrrghhhhey all08:53
arrrghhhso i have this interesting problem on reboot... alsamixer's master volume always goes way low, and i have to turn it up every time the computer is restarted.  is there any way to have it save the master voluem?08:54
vzducharrrghhh: sudo alsactl store09:06
arrrghhhvzduch: ok i'm going to reboot...09:17
arrrghhhvzduch: that didn't work...09:20
arrrghhhi didn't have this issue in xfce.09:20
mikkaeli want prevent a specific package from updating. i can do this in synaptic, but how does adept_updater know that it shouldnt update that package ?09:23
arrrghhhi don't know if you can with adept...09:27
Kite_DHi need sum help here... how can i upgrade to 7.1009:27
Kite_DHi got feisty rightnow09:27
arrrghhhfire up a terminal09:28
Kite_DHrunning09:28
arrrghhhsudo update-manager -d09:28
arrrghhhwoah... it's offering me hardy already?  i didn't realize i had THOSE repos on... sheesh09:29
mikkaeladept is a front end for aptitude, right ?09:30
arrrghhheither that or apt-get... i don't remember09:30
arrrghhhit's a gui for APT09:31
arrrghhhhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager09:31
mikkaelso it should be possible to keep a specific version?09:31
mikkaelvia terminal ..09:31
arrrghhhsure?  i dunno.09:32
Kite_DHarrrghhh: it says some packagerepos are deaktivated09:32
Kite_DHis that a problem??09:32
arrrghhhno09:33
arrrghhhyou can reactivate after the dist-upgrade09:33
mikkaelfrom apt-get manpage: --no-upgrade: Do not upgrade packages; When used in conjunction with install, no-upgrade will prevent packages on the command line from being upgraded if they are already installed. so "sudo apt-get install --no-upgrade openarena-data" would do this job ?09:34
arrrghhhi'd say so09:35
arrrghhhtry it09:35
Kite_DHCanonical Ltd. no longer provides support for the following software packages. You can still get support from the community.09:36
Kite_DHit says09:36
Kite_DHarrrghhh: you mean, if the upgrade is done, i should just update my packages?09:37
mikkaelmaybe some packages moved from main to universe or whatever09:38
Kite_DHoh, well...09:38
mikkaeluniverse and multiverse are not officially supported09:38
Kite_DHafter the upgrade is done, i have to run "dist-upgrade" right?09:38
mikkaelas far as i know09:38
arrrghhhuh i don't think that's necessary09:38
arrrghhhupdate-manager -d is the same thing09:38
Kite_DHoh, aight09:38
Kite_DHnever used the update-manager09:38
arrrghhhsorry, i'm used to xfce09:38
Kite_DHit downloads the upgrade now09:38
arrrghhhi forgot the apt-get way...09:39
arrrghhhyea the update-manager way is the easiest imo09:39
Kite_DH1343 packages09:39
Kite_DHnice09:39
arrrghhhyea if you had done "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it would've done the same thing.  oops.09:40
Kite_DHlul09:40
Kite_DH:)09:40
arrrghhhgotta love linux, they give you 143 ways to skin a cat09:40
Kite_DH:o?09:40
mikkaeldist-upgrade isnt the same as update-manager -d ?!09:41
mikkaelwell dist-upgrade leaves me on gutsy..09:41
Kite_DH:O09:41
arrrghhhhrm09:42
arrrghhhwell maybe not.09:42
arrrghhhi dunno, but i'm positive update-manager -d gets the job done09:42
mikkaeli always update with dist-upgrade09:42
arrrghhhis it not Kite_DH?09:42
Kite_DHdoes its job09:42
mikkaeldist-upgrade will update everything, even if things have to be removed09:42
Kite_DH1 hour to go :(09:42
mikkaelsafe-upgrade will not remove anything09:43
arrrghhhat least you're not doing this on dialup09:43
Kite_DHare you doing this on dialup?09:43
mikkaelbut to get to another version 7.04-7.10 or higher, dist-upgrade wont do that09:43
arrrghhhme?  heck no09:44
arrrghhhjust sayin lol09:44
Kite_DHheh09:44
mikkaelupdate-manager isnt installed on my system, is this gnome ?09:46
arrrghhhi'm on kubuntu09:46
arrrghhhkde09:46
Kite_DHme too09:46
mikkaelhehe maybe i should reinstall kubuntu-desktop :P09:46
arrrghhhthe original install on this system was xubuntu, but i put kubuntu on it since.09:46
mikkaelupdate-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates09:47
arrrghhhit's possible it came w/xfce...09:47
mikkaelthats it09:48
arrrghhhnever had gnome on here09:48
mikkaelxubuntu has a lot gnome09:48
arrrghhhwell i don't know how Kite_DH got it09:48
arrrghhhyea that's true09:48
Kite_DHi moved from windoze to kubuntu edgy09:49
Kite_DHlong long time ago09:49
Kite_DHlol09:49
arrrghhhdid you ever have gnome?09:49
Kite_DHnot installed, i checked ubuntu 7.04 out tho...via live-cd09:49
arrrghhhhrm09:49
mikkaelgtk apps integrate good with kde imo :) but i dont like the file saving/opening dialogs :P09:49
Kite_DHit was nice, but i love KDE09:49
arrrghhhi dunno09:49
arrrghhhyea i prefer kde from the 3 big ones09:49
mikkaelfor a good look try: sudo aptitude install kde-style-qtcurve gtk2-engines-qtcurve09:52
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ingo_Hi there - does anybody know how to install a KDE theme *.kth onto a remote Kubuntu box to which I only have command line access?09:56
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Chadwick|359Hey there everybody. The buttons along the bottom of my ktorrent window seem to have disappeared, and I can't seem to find anything in shortcuts or the options menus that will bring them back, anybody have any hints?09:57
mikkaelthey come from the module that gives you informations, is this loaded ?09:58
Chadwick|359Huh, I didn't unload it, how the heck did that happen? Thanks, mikkael.09:58
spawn57!vmware10:01
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers10:01
administratorhello10:04
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rafalhi10:05
lg188hello , wlorlf10:08
lg188world*10:08
lg188howto install auda city10:09
lg188not command ...10:10
sigmai finally found a decent video encoder. try kvideoencoder. its seems 2b da only one that works properly10:12
sigmaare the kubuntu tutorial lessons for beginners?10:13
pastulioim swapping my old agp tnt riva graphics card for a gf5700 on my kubuntu box, will it just work without any trouble or will i have to do anything special first?10:13
sigmawill a 250gb seagate sata drive work fine on kubuntu 7.10 as a secondary hard drive?10:15
sigmamy primary hdd is currently a 80gb seagate sata drive10:15
sigmaanyone there?10:17
ploddersigma: why shouldn't it?10:51
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intrepidlytritehey, I've got a webcam question...anyone here?10:56
Linux_Galoreintrepidlytrite: in what way ?11:05
Linux_Galorewonder why people ask about sata when its just a variant of the normal ide standard11:06
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intrepidlytritelinux_galore, I've got a webcam installed, drivers are loaded, apps recognize it, but I still get black screens only...any idea?11:11
Linux_Galoreintrepidlytrite: nope11:11
intrepidlytritelinux_galore ok, thanks11:13
Linux_Galorewebcam howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam11:13
intrepidlytriteyes, had a look there too11:13
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Linux_Galoreintrepidlytrite: some times I find loging out and back in (not a reboot) can make usb devices work better11:14
intrepidlytritelinux_galore yes, well, I've tried that....do you think it could be a graphics driver issue?11:17
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sigmahow do i use firewall builder? everything is greyed out11:20
kiizpls where can i find libdvdcss2 needed to play dvds11:21
sigmakiiz: its in the medibuntu repository11:21
kiizis it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory11:24
kiizsigma: is it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory11:24
kiizsigma: thanks i found it11:27
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kiizhow can i play mp3 in kubuntu.transcoding my collection to .ogg is an overkill11:45
pagkiiz, install libxine1-ffmpeg11:46
Migs-sehello11:46
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Migs-seabout-to-be-new-user-of-Kubuntu here :)11:46
tuxwulfWhat's more, not all portable MP3 playeers support oggs11:46
Migs-seI'm just preparing my PC for it. But in the meantime, I want to get a bit informed. :)11:47
pagMigs-se, sure. Just ask your question(s) :-)11:47
Migs-seI've heard that the Linux Media Center is based on Kununtu. If I install Kubuntu 7.04, am I able to download the media ceter specific componets?11:47
Migs-se*center11:47
Migs-se*Kubuntu11:48
Migs-seman, my typo's are nasty11:48
Migs-seBasically, I just want a non-resource hungry OS to run a media center on to play videos on the hard drive/cd-dvd or stream off the network from a Windows-Based PC.11:49
pagMigs-se, I'm not sure, but it might be possible, if it's in the repositories11:49
Migs-seI see11:50
Migs-sea friend mentioned it uses MythTV for the Media Center aspect11:50
Migs-sewell, I'll find out when I start installing it in about 5 minutes11:51
Migs-sebusy making an image of the hard drive before I start.11:51
pagMigs-se, at least MythTV is in the repo's... so even if you will not be able to install Media Centre in other way, it still should be manually configurable somehow..11:52
Migs-seActually, I'm glad there are people around here today. :)11:52
Migs-seI see11:52
Migs-sedo you know how large is the download for MythTV?11:53
pagMigs-se, on my system it says "After unpacking 155MB of additional disk space will be used." but the result may vary a bit in both direcions11:54
kiizpag: did't find it in medibuntu repo11:54
pagkiiz, it's in multiverse11:55
pag!info libxine1-ffmpeg11:55
Migs-seHmm11:55
ubotulibxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB11:55
Migs-seguess I'll only find out when I start Kubuntu then11:55
Migs-sethanks anyway pag11:55
Migs-sebusy starting up Kubuntu now11:56
Migs-seHmmm11:56
pagMigs-se, good luck :)11:56
Migs-selooks like Kubuntu Install is not TV Friendly11:56
Migs-segetting bad picture of blues and purples11:56
Migs-seguess I have to hook up a monitor11:57
Migs-seby the way11:59
Migs-seis Kubuntu Ati friendly now?11:59
Migs-seI remember with the older linux distros I used, I could't use an ati card12:00
pagMigs-se, sure it is - Ati just isn't Linux friedly yet ;P12:00
Migs-seHmmm12:00
Migs-sethen I may have a problem with TV Out then12:00
Migs-sehow about Nvidia? I have a 5200 that is't being used12:00
pagMigs-se, nvidia works great as far as I know :)  (I don't have experience with TV-out though..)12:01
Migs-seAh, we have a visual12:01
Migs-selooks like Kubuntu needs a monitor for installation, heh12:01
Migs-seI'll try the Nvidia if the Ati fails12:02
Migs-serighty, this is where I need some real help, heh12:05
Migs-seI'm at the partition disk space now12:05
Migs-seI'm thinking of using it all, but can it still be read on a Windows-Based PC?12:05
Kite_DHMigs-se: yes12:06
Migs-seso use the guided-use entire space option or guided-use the largest continuous free space?12:07
Migs-sedon't want to make separate partitions, so I rather use all of the free space.12:07
Migs-seit will be just 1 oS.12:07
kiizpag: under what dir is it in.it is not in the x,libx dir12:09
stdinkiiz: it's a package you install with adept12:09
pagkiiz, dir? just open konsole, and type "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg "12:10
pagkiiz, ..or use Adept, if you prefer graphical way12:10
kiizi dont have an internet connection!12:10
Migs-sereally?12:11
Migs-sehow are you able to communicate here then?12:11
pagkiiz, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg <- you can download all the needed packages from here..12:12
kiizi am in an internet cafe'. far far from home12:12
Migs-seand Kubuntu is now formatting my drives12:13
Migs-se*prays for good luck*12:13
Norgurstop praying12:13
Norgurthis never helped for me :P12:13
Migs-seLOL!12:15
EiccaIs there any playstation emulators for kubuntu?12:15
Migs-sejust curious, but where are you based pag?12:16
NorgurEicca, jes there is12:16
Migs-seEicca: Ah! thanks for reminding me12:16
Norgurin repos: pcsx12:16
pagMigs-se, you mean, which country am I from? I currently live in Finland..12:16
Migs-seyep, was refering to country.12:16
Migs-seI Hail from South Africa though12:17
Norgur^^12:17
Norgur<---Germany :P12:17
Migs-seyou poor bastards, heh12:17
Migs-seI despise the cold12:17
Norgurwell12:17
Norgurisnt cold at all12:17
Norgur15 Degrees Celsius ;)12:18
Migs-sethats cold, heh12:18
Migs-sesnow is over-rated12:19
Norguri never mind12:19
Norgurno^^12:19
Migs-securrently 21 degrees celcious over here12:19
Norgurexactly noone rates this very high at all12:19
* oliver3 stares at Dolphin in Kubuntu12:20
kiizpag: do i also have to download links with red bottons12:21
oliver3I thought Dolphin wasn't going to be the file manager until KDE4?12:21
pag!dolphin | oliver312:21
ubotuoliver3: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.12:21
oliver3<_<12:21
oliver3But why? xD12:22
pagkiiz, I'm not sure if default installation has them already... but it might be a good idea to download them just to be sure12:22
llutzoliver3: users wished12:22
oliver3Fair enough.12:22
oliver3I've just noticed, in Dolphin, on the right there is a little menu.12:22
oliver3It's there twice.12:22
oliver3O.o12:22
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oliver3I think I'll stick with Ubuntu as my main OS for now.12:24
oliver3Can't be doing will silly bugs like that. >_>12:24
* oliver3 sticks his nose up pompously.12:24
oliver3:P12:24
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Linux_Galoreoliver3: dolphin is not finished and I was surprised they set it as the default, I just swap it back to konqueror12:33
Linux_Galoreif you really want to have fun try getting a network scanner working in kubuntu, I gave up and wrote my own program12:35
oliver3xD12:36
oliver3Oh my :x12:37
Migs-seOkay, another question :)12:39
Migs-sewhat is the difference between Ati Radeon(fbdev) - Ati Radeon(fglrx) and Ati Radeon(vesa)?12:39
Migs-seI'm using a Ati Radeon 9250 AGP12:39
Migs-sethere is one that simply says Ati Radeon though12:40
ricaneliteokay, currently right now im using the Gnome desktop, Is it possible that I could have Gnome and Kubuntu because im curious in trying out the KDE Desktop. But I do NOT want to messup my Gnome desktop and its files. Is it possible? If so what is the best way I getting it installing and running?12:40
pagMigs-se, fbdec is an open ati driver iirc, vesa is generic driver and fglrx is closed-source ati driver.12:41
oliver3Migs-se, fglrx is the official driver, but I think it's proprietary. vesa is a generic driver and fbdev I'm not sure about.12:42
oliver3ricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop12:42
pagricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop and use it with another user - it shouldn't affect your user settings at all that way (iirc it won't affect them even if you run with the same user, but if you want to be 120% sure..:)12:42
Migs-sehmmm, so which driver do you guys recommend I use?12:42
Migs-seor try each one until I get tv-out? heh12:43
oliver3Migs-se, if fglrx wasn't proprietary I would recommend that.12:43
oliver3But seeing as it is, I can't do that.12:43
ricanelitei type it on the terminal? and can I use Compiz-Fusion as well with Kubuntu?12:43
pagMigs-se, start with open one, and the proceed to proprietary... vesa isn't the best option for sure..12:43
Migs-seokay, thanks12:43
pagricanelite, you can use synaptic to install packages if you want12:44
ricanelitewhat do I search for kubuntu-deskto12:44
ricanelitekubuntu-desktop12:44
pagricanelite, yup.12:45
ricanelitewhat is the latest version? 1.59?12:45
ricanelitei have gusty12:45
pagricanelite, nevermind those version-numbers.12:46
tuxwulfWhat are the main advantages of Gutsy over Feisty...?12:46
ricaneliteso thats it?12:46
oliver3tuxwulf, gusty is newer and has 3D stuff out of the box. It also has a fast user switching feature and numerous other things.12:47
tuxwulfoliver3: ...oooowwkay... thanks!12:48
oliver3oh sorry tuxwulf I was talking about Ubuntu.12:48
oliver3Forgot which channel I'm in for a moment...12:48
trytonczesc12:48
Migs-seOkay, this looks bad12:52
Migs-semabey I broke Kubuntu already? heh12:52
Migs-seI restarted the machine with the new video settings and Kubuntu is not loading12:52
matttishow do I submit a bug report for the kde panel ? Whats the name of this program ?12:53
pagMigs-se, Kubuntu, or a graphical mode?12:53
Migs-seI getthe Kubuntu logo at startup, but then it disappears. now I nothing12:53
pagmatttis, 'kicker'12:53
Migs-se*Now i have nothing12:53
lascarif one has a machine with Core Duo processor(s), could he use the AMD64 images to install Kubuntu?12:53
pagMigs-se, ctrl+alt+F1 should get you to the command line12:53
Migs-seat command line now12:54
paglascar, yes, he could, but I still think, taht 32bit would be easier..12:54
Migs-sewhat do I do now?12:54
lascarpag: how so?12:54
pagMigs-se, " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " will get you the configuration dialog, in which you can choose a different driver12:54
oliver3Migs-se, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xoth12:54
dreamingmigs-se: does it drop you at a prompt?12:54
oliver3Migs-se, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg *12:54
oliver3Migs-se, without the *12:55
niko__hi to all12:55
oliver3Hi to niko__12:55
niko__where is the konversation config file?12:55
oliver3:)12:55
Migs-seat the moment, it's trying to login12:55
dreamingI had a similar problem and fixed it with sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new12:55
niko__i wanna to backup it12:55
paglascar, well.. ie. Flash is (or at least was) far easier to install in 32bit system.. same goes for Skype.12:55
pagniko__, ~./kde/share/config/konversationrc  iirc :)12:55
Migs-sewhen I type the password, I don't see what is being typed until I press enter. then I can see what is being typed12:55
lascar(i'm a heavy Skype user...)12:55
dreamingthe automatic nvidia drivers dont like me12:55
Migs-sebut it kickes me out saying its incorrect12:55
niko__thnx12:56
lascarpag: but difficult is not synonymous with impossible.  Surely there are ways around it?12:56
madprobehi! at boot time when screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and display only comes back just before KDM shows up. Someone please tell me the solution for this12:56
dreamingthats pretty normal migs, its to stop people guessing how many characters are in your password12:56
madprobehi! at boot time the* screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and display only comes back just before KDM shows up. Someone please tell me the solution for this12:56
dreamingyou can still type12:56
pagMigs-se, just type your user password - passwd not supposed to be seen12:56
oliver3Migs-se, that's normal, except kicking you out.12:56
Migs-seI got it now12:56
dreaming:)12:56
Migs-seit does't show you the password as you type it12:56
Migs-seweirdness12:56
Migs-seanyway12:56
dreamingit makes sense if you think about it :-)12:57
paglascar, yes.. you *could* install 32bit libs on your 64bit system, the do a littel command-line magic and so on.. it *can* be done, but it can get messy12:57
Migs-segoing to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now12:57
dreamingi hate compiz12:57
madprobewould someone please help me in my problem?12:57
paglascar, there are instructions on the forums for that12:57
lascarpag: i'll keep that in mind.  Know any good wardriving apps?12:57
Dragnslcrlascar- yeah, there are ways to get everything working on a 64-bit install, but unless you have more than 4 GB of memory, you probably won't notice any performance increase with a 64-bit install anyway12:57
lascarah.12:58
niko__so12:58
madprobeAt boot time the* screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and display only comes back just before KDM shows up. Someone please tell me the solution for this12:58
niko__if i do an new installation on an other pc...12:58
pagmadprobe, but KDM shows up just fine and everything works after?12:58
niko__this config make two konverstion same configured?12:58
niko__(i'm italian, forgive my english)12:59
madprobepag: oh, i was beginning to think that may be there is some prob in my pidgin and noone can see my msg. coz chatting in pidgin first time12:59
Migs-serighty12:59
Migs-seit asked me to give a name for the video card, which I did12:59
pagniko__, it should, yes12:59
niko__okiz12:59
niko__i try12:59
Migs-seand now, its talking about people that have multiple video cards, which I don't have13:00
niko__thnx a lot and enjoy yuor time!13:00
Migs-sethere is a OK section, but pressing enter does nothing13:00
Migs-sewhat now?13:00
madprobepag: yes, display comes back just b4 KDM was going to come, first thing to see after booting from grub is the mouse cursor as a circle, display goes blank in between for 1-2 mins13:00
pagMigs-se, use space instead of enter13:00
Migs-sespace does nothing either13:01
matttisKDE-Bugreporting: Are the backtrace data of interest for the bug report ?13:01
pagMigs-se, which step exactly?13:01
Migs-sesorry if I seem like an idiot, but this is totally new to me13:01
Migs-sethird step I think?13:02
Migs-sefirst was select chipset of video card, second was name the video card (type it in) and now I'm in the third step13:02
Migs-sewhere it mentions about people that use multiple video cards to type in the busID address13:02
pagmadprobe, if I understood you right, you could just disable splash from boot-options13:02
madprobeafter grub menu, the next thing i see is KDM screen, screen goes complete blank in between for a long time of abt 1-2 mins. i dont know the reason for such a long time too as screen is blank during that time13:03
Migs-seguess I have to re-install Kubuntu, heh13:03
madprobepag: i've disabled the quite option from menu.lst, but havnt removed splash13:04
madproberemoving quite didnt helped13:04
lascar!war driving13:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about war driving - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:05
nosrednaekimMigs-se: just leave that field blank13:05
madprobepag: i will reboot after removing splash option. then i will be back again. thanks for the ray of hope13:05
pagMigs-se, hmm.. strange - I can't recall having such step myself13:05
Migs-sethere is no place to type it in though nosrednaekim13:05
nosrednaekimMigs-se: thats ok... just skip that step.13:05
Migs-seonly option is the OK13:05
nosrednaekimpress ok13:05
Migs-sebut pressing enter or space does nothing13:05
nosrednaekimpress tab once13:06
nosrednaekimand then hit space13:06
Migs-sethat did the trick, heh13:06
Migs-senow it's asking for the Video Cards Bus identifier. which is already filled in.13:06
Migs-sewhich is PCI:1:0:013:06
Migs-sepress enter to continue?13:07
nosrednaekimyeah13:07
Migs-serighty13:07
nosrednaekimanything you don't have a clue about, just continue13:07
Migs-senow it's asking for the amount of memory to be used by the video card in kilobytes13:08
Migs-setype ina figure or leave it blank?13:08
nosrednaekimleave it blank13:08
Migs-seUse Kernal Framebuffer Device Interface? options are Yes or No.13:09
nosrednaekimyes13:09
Migs-sethanks for taking me step-by-step in this by the way13:09
nosrednaekimyeah, this is one baffling dialog... I think thre is a way to cut out the uneccesary steps..but Iforget how.13:10
Migs-seokay, went through the entire dialoge now13:12
pagnosrednaekim, you mean -phigh option?13:12
Migs-seand it's back to the dos prompt13:12
Migs-serestart the PC>13:12
Migs-serestart the PC?13:12
nosrednaekimpag: ah.... yes13:12
madprobepag: removing splash option did its job13:12
madprobepag: thanks dude13:12
pagmadprobe, np :)13:12
nosrednaekimMigs-se: ok, no, run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"13:12
pagMigs-se, command  ' startx '  hsould do the job13:13
nosrednaekimpag: starting up kdm is reccomended because it provides for a clean log out and shut-down13:13
Migs-seand I'm back to graphical Kubuntu13:13
nosrednaekimwithout more command-line sorcery :D13:13
madprobei'm unable to do everything from my keyboard, coz tab doesnt stops on list controls. i've to always use my mouse to select option from some list control. is there some problem in my theme or window style? i am using default theme and window style.13:14
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pagmadprobe, you could also remove splash from def-options - that way grub won't add it to every new kernel.13:14
pagnosrednaekim, oh, ok :-)13:14
lascarthanx again13:15
Migs-sehow do I shutdown Kubuntu? I see no option to do so. Just log off, which takes you back to the command prompt.13:15
madprobepag: where are the def-options defined?13:15
StevenRmadprobe: poweroff ?13:15
nosrednaekimMigs-se: "sudo shutdown -r now"13:15
nosrednaekimthat will probably reboot13:15
pagmadprobe, in /boot/grub/menu.lst13:15
nosrednaekimMigs-se: did X work?13:16
Migs-seit restarted13:16
Migs-sebut I switched off the machine when it restarted13:16
pagmadprobe, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst  and there look for the line that says osmething like "# defoptions=quiet splash"13:17
Migs-sewanted to plug in my TV to see if it works13:17
Migs-seand it does't. nasty13:17
nosrednaekimMigs-se: ok.13:17
nosrednaekimMigs-se: oh.. it'll probably works with some work :D13:17
nosrednaekim!dualhead13:18
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama13:18
Migs-seback to the monitor then13:18
Migs-seand try a different driver13:18
ciacon!ipod13:18
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod13:18
Migs-seI plan to only use a TV by the way. not have dual head13:18
nosrednaekimMigs-se: ah....well, what are you using? s-video?13:20
Migs-sewow13:21
Migs-seKubuntu is broken. again13:21
Migs-segetting no visual on the monitor after Kubuntu loading screen is gone13:21
Migs-semonitor reports no input from the PC13:21
Migs-sere-install Kubuntu? heh13:21
Migs-senosrednaekim: RCA13:21
Migs-seso, for now, I'll re-install Kubuntu13:22
Migs-semabey I'll have better luck with a Nvidia card?13:22
nosrednaekimMigs-se: nah... don't reinstall, go to "ctrl+alt+f1"13:22
nosrednaekimMigs-se: what graphics card are you using?13:22
Migs-sebacl to the command prompt13:22
Migs-seusing a Ati Radeon 925013:23
Migs-sethe 128mb AGP model13:23
Migs-sethe Nvidia I have is a Geforce 5200 128mb AGP13:23
nosrednaekimMigs-se: tv-out will only work on that card with the officail ATI driver. and lol, not sure that the official driver even supports that card any more.13:23
nosrednaekimMigs-se: I definately go with the nvidia.13:23
Migs-seOkay, will try Nvidia then13:24
jussi01Migs-se: I have exactly that ati!13:24
jussi01works perfectly13:24
jussi01stupid netsplits... sigh13:24
Migs-seso, what do I do now at the dos prompt?13:24
Migs-seshut it down and pop on the nvidia or continue using the ati?13:24
Migs-sejussi01, I'm trying to get TV-Out in Kubuntu with the card13:25
Migs-sedid you get yours working in tv-out?13:25
jussi01Migs-se: ahh... that nasty one. I have never got it to work13:25
Migs-seI see13:25
jordinateurI've an error while I tried to launch nvidia.run : NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string13:25
Migs-sethen I'll pop in the Nvidia then13:25
jordinateurwhat does it means ?13:25
jussi01Migs-se: I would reccomend that13:25
Migs-sedo I need to reinstall Kubuntu when I put in the Nvidia card?13:26
nosrednaekimMigs-se: run that command again " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" select the vesa driver when you get to that page.13:26
nosrednaekimjordinateur: something wrong with that shel script13:26
nosrednaekim!nvidia | jordinateur13:26
ubotujordinateur: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:26
nosrednaekimMigs-se: nope.13:26
tony__Hello, como andan13:26
nosrednaekimMigs-se: run that command I just said, which should put the computer into generic graphics mode. then swap in the nvidia13:27
jordinateurubotu: I can't access the internet with ubuntu, i just can connect and open "konversation"13:27
nosrednaekimor you could swap in the nvidia first13:27
Migs-sedoing that now nosrednaekim, changing to vesa mode.13:28
nosrednaekimk13:28
jordinateurnosrednaekim: What's wrong ? What can i do ?13:28
Migs-sesudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg just sends me a list of proper command usage13:28
madprobepag: where are the def-options13:29
pagjordinateur, so konversation works, but other apps do not?13:29
nosrednaekimMigs-se: ah... well then just run the whole dialog with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"13:29
pagmadprobe, in /boot/grub/menu.lst on line that says something like "# defoptions=quiet splash"13:30
jordinateurpag: Hum I think it's a problem of config with konqueror ;p But I don't know what and for the moment, the problem is why i've an error with nvidia.run...13:30
nosrednaekimjordinateur: use the restriced-manager to unstall your drivers.13:31
pagjordinateur, no idea about nvidia.run... I have an idea about what's wrong with your net, though.13:31
jordinateurpag: What is your idea ?13:31
nosrednaekim*install13:31
jordinateurnosrednaekim: Okay i'll try ;p13:31
madprobepag: right now it is #defoptions=quite splash. what will it be after i would remove the quite and splash options? defoptions=""?13:32
pagjordinateur, if you don't happen to use knetworkmanager, the alt+f2 -> " killall knetworkmanager "  and all should be fine13:32
madprobepag: or should i remove the whole defoptions line13:32
madprobe?13:32
pagmadprobe, don't remove the whole line!13:32
madprobepag: then to what will i write on the right side of =?13:33
Migs-senow popping in the Nvidia card13:33
pagmadprobe, I see no reason to remove quiet, so you could leve it.. but if you don't want to keep it, the just leave the right side of = empty13:33
Migs-segoodbye faithfull ati card *sniff*13:33
edihi,how can i change the rights of a mounted partition? only root can write, and i want to have write access as normal user.13:33
Xcelllol13:33
madprobepag: ok dude, thanks once again :)13:33
nosrednaekim!mount | edi13:33
ubotuedi: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter13:33
pagmadprobe, you'll have to run " sudo updeate-grub " after you've commited the changes13:34
pagmadprobe, " sudo update-grub " that is :-)13:34
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madprobepag: one thing more, in my gentoo system, i keep it the grub.conf so lean and mean, there are just 3-4 lines in it, but in kubuntu it seems like i will damage my system even if i remove commented lines :(13:35
jordinateurpag: I've already find this problem : my local network was the problem, and i've ddisconnect the cable but it's not the problem for konqueror( sorry i'm french and 15 and i've not a good english ^^)13:35
nosrednaekim!fr13:35
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.13:35
nosrednaekimif you want....13:36
Migs-secard is in and starting up the PC13:36
Migs-seKubuntu is now loading13:36
Migs-sewe have a visual on the monitor13:36
pagmadprobe, I'm not that familiar with menu.lst, so I would know which lines are safe to remove.. so if you don't have to, don't remove any :)13:36
nosrednaekimMigs-se: cool....cool13:37
Migs-seKubuntu is loaded13:37
madprobepag: yup, u r right13:37
Migs-seso, what now? shutdown and try the tv-out?13:37
Migs-seor change some settings first?13:37
Migs-seit's in vesa mode at the moment13:38
nosrednaekimMigs-se: you'll need to install the nvidia driver for sure.13:38
nosrednaekimuse the restricted-manager in systemsettings13:38
madprobemy tab isnt stopping on list controls, so i am forced to use mouse to select a value from the list control. is it due to my theme? which is default one13:39
pagjordinateur, I only know, that KNetworkManager has caused problems with Konqueror on pretty many systems - I'm not sure, if that's the hase on your system, but I thing disabling knetworkmanager is a tryworthy option :-)13:39
madprobei mean i want to use ctrl-down to select a value from a list, but i am unable to do so13:39
toanbonjour13:40
jussi01!fr | toan13:41
ubotutoan: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.13:41
toanmerci13:41
Migs-sebusy using konqueror to check the nvidia website for the driver13:42
Migs-sefor OS, choose Linux 32-bit?13:42
jussi01!ati | Migs-se13:43
ubotuMigs-se: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:43
Migs-seso not a good idea to download the driver direct from Nvidia then?13:43
madprobehow can i open items in system tray using my keyboard?13:43
nosrednaekimMigs-se: no no... use the restricted-manager... it'll do it automatically13:43
Migs-sebut, where is it? I can't find it in system settings13:44
nosrednaekimMigs-se: under "advanced13:45
nosrednaekimMigs-se: its just harder and more error-prone13:45
Migs-se"As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System ? Administration ? Restricted Devices Manager."13:46
Migs-setryed that and its not there either13:46
jussi01Migs-se: thats ubuntu...13:46
jussi01Migs-se: go to system settings, click advanced and then restrcted drivers13:46
nosrednaekimMigs-se: thats for ubuntu... just run "restricted-manager-kde" from the commandline and that should get ya there.13:46
Migs-seokay, now for the next stupid question13:48
Migs-sewhere is the commandline?13:48
madprobehow can i open items in system tray using my keyboard?13:48
Eiccahow come my fps sucks in gta san andreas? how could I improve it? (im using wine)13:48
nosrednaekimMigs-se: menu->system->konsole13:49
Migs-sethanks nosrednaekim13:49
ediok, i dont get it... how can i change this: " /daten ext3 defaults 0 2"  in fstab so that not just root have write acces?13:49
Migs-senosrednaekim: I get 'command not found'13:50
privetMigs-se: ALT-F2 and enter xterm is what I use13:50
nosrednaekimedi: you should use the disk and partitions manager in systemsettings->advanced13:50
privetmadprobe: how do you mean "open"?13:50
nosrednaekimMigs-se: are you running gutsy?13:50
Migs-sewhat is gutsy?13:50
privetand madprobe is gone...13:51
toan how to install flash in konqueror?13:51
edibut what option do i have to change?13:51
jussi01!gutsy | Migs-se13:51
ubotuMigs-se: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents13:51
nosrednaekimMigs-se: version of Kubuntu... the latest13:51
Migs-seI'm using Kubuntu 7.0413:51
nosrednaekimMigs-se: ah... I see, then run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"13:52
DerEddiehi guys. i'm right here if i'm searching for help with kubuntu, right?13:52
nosrednaekimand then run "kdesu restricted-manager"13:52
jussi01!ask | DerEddie13:52
ubotuDerEddie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)13:52
nosrednaekimDerEddie: generally ;)13:52
DerEddieok thx :)13:52
edinosrednaekim: what option do i have to change?13:52
Migs-sewe have an error, nosrednaekim13:52
nosrednaekimMigs-se: which is...13:53
Migs-seE: COudl't Find Package restricted is what I get now13:53
nosrednaekim"restricted-manager"13:53
Migs-sewoops13:53
Migs-sewait13:54
Migs-seI did type it in correctly13:54
DerEddieok... so i'm using kubuntu gutsy gibbon and when i'm trying to use the adept manager it gives me the following error:13:54
DerEddieThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.13:54
edinosrednaekim: change the mountpointrights?13:54
nosrednaekim!adeptfix13:54
jussi01!aptfix | DerEddie13:54
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:54
ubotuDerEddie: please see above13:54
nosrednaekimedi: change who can mount it.13:54
edinosrednaekim: to?13:55
nosrednaekimanyone.13:55
nosrednaekimall users can mount and unmount13:55
madprobesomeone please tell me how to access system tray icons using KB?13:55
nosrednaekimmadprobe: unless you do mouse emulation with the numpad... you can't13:55
madprobeoh13:56
madprobeand how can i change my list value from a list form in a window using keyboard? tab doesnt seem to stop there13:56
madprobeand how can i change my list value from a list control* in a window using keyboard? tab doesnt seem to stop there13:56
DerEddieubotu: I tried "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" but there is still the same error when i try to start adept manager13:59
DerEddieoh14:00
DerEddiexD14:00
edinosrednaekim: do i have to reboot or something?14:00
jussi01!bot | DerEddie:14:00
ubotuDerEddie:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots14:00
jussi01:D14:00
DerEddielol14:00
DerEddie:D14:00
nosrednaekimDerEddie: you have to be root...14:00
Migs-seokay14:00
nosrednaekimto run adept14:00
madprobeand how can i change my list value from a list control* in a window using keyboard? tab doesnt seem to stop there14:00
Migs-seI triple checked and I have spelled it correctly14:00
Migs-seI have no idea what I am doing wrong14:00
nosrednaekimedi: no... you should just be able to actuvate the partition from within that tool14:01
nosrednaekimMigs-se: heh.... run "sudo apt-get update"14:01
DerEddiei have to be root?14:01
nosrednaekimDerEddie: or at least be using "kdesudo"14:01
Migs-seupdate is done14:02
Migs-seso what now?14:02
edinosrednaekim: i have set the options and its activated, but i still cant write..14:03
DerEddiehm. when i do "K-Menu -> System -> Adept Manager" it should normally work, or not?14:03
jack_salut salut14:03
nosrednaekimMigs-se: sorry, got discconnected...14:05
nosrednaekimdid you run "sudo apt-get update"?14:05
Migs-seyes and its done14:05
jussi01!fr | jack_14:06
ubotujack_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.14:06
Migs-sebut I need to remove a hard drive from that system14:06
Migs-seand restart my PC14:06
Migs-seso will BRB14:06
Migs-sethank you for the help so far.14:06
Migs-se :)14:06
nosrednaekimMigs-se:don't restart!14:06
Migs-secan't I shutdown?14:06
nosrednaekimthere is no need...14:06
Migs-seokay14:06
Migs-sewell, I'm shutting down *this* pc14:06
Migs-seso will be *right back*14:07
nosrednaekimoh... ok :D14:07
edinosrednaekim: do i have to change any other option?14:07
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nosrednaekimedi: I don't think so....14:08
edinosrednaekim: is maybe the montpoint wrong? its just "/daten"14:09
nosrednaekimedi: thats fine.14:10
nosrednaekimedi: is it an internal drive?14:10
edinosrednaekim: yes14:10
nosrednaekimedi: did you turn on "enable at startup"?14:11
edinosrednaekim: yes14:11
nosrednaekimk14:11
edinosrednaekim: its hda3 and activated14:11
nosrednaekimbut only root can look at it?14:11
edinosrednaekim: no, only root can write, i can browse it as normal user14:12
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edinosrednaekim: its ext314:13
nosrednaekimedi ah.... interesting.14:13
edinosrednaekim: lol, sry dont know whats maybe good to know14:14
nosrednaekimedi: so you can read anything, but can't write anything?14:15
ediyes.14:15
ediit should be my music base and its annoying to be root everytime i want to copy or edit something14:16
nosrednaekimedi: hrm, I don't have a clue.... you could try doing "sudo chmod -R a+x <mount point>"14:17
edinosrednaekim: but that wont delete anything on that partition?14:17
nosrednaekimedi: nope.14:18
edinosrednaekim: just to be clear, thats i have to type :"sudo chmod -R a+x /daten"  ?14:18
nosrednaekimedi: actually, make that "sudo chmod -R a+xw /daten"14:19
ediim gonna try14:19
llutzedi: use chown to change ownership to a group your user is in14:20
ediohh.. it seems to work :)14:20
edichown?14:20
llutzchown (1)            - change file owner and group14:21
Migs-seand I am back14:21
Migs-senosrednaekim, update is done14:21
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nosrednaekimthats definately not permanant though14:22
Migs-sewhat should I do next?14:22
llutznosrednaekim: what? chown on ext3? it IS permanent14:22
nosrednaekimMigs-se: "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"14:22
nosrednaekimllutz: I mean chmod14:22
llutzsure it is too14:22
edillutz: so i have to type : chown /daten?14:23
kdehelphow can I check for the sound hardware and install it once I know what it is?  I have a new Toshiba satalite laptop14:23
nosrednaekimllutz: even over multiple remounts?14:24
llutzedi: chown -R root:<a group your user is member in> /daten14:24
llutznosrednaekim: sure, who should change permissions? its a unix-filesystem14:24
nosrednaekim!sound | kdehelp14:24
ubotukdehelp: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP314:24
aroDoes anyone know of any packages I need to install to enable DVD playback direct from a DVD drive in Kaffeine?14:24
Downix2khello everyone14:24
nosrednaekim!hardware | kdehelp14:24
ubotukdehelp: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport14:24
Downix2ktrying to find the sshd to turn on so I can unplug the monitor to this machine14:24
aro!dvd14:25
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:25
Jimnastics_problem to config snort,having 'no using pcap_frame' error, i ve winpcap installed,i m tryin windows ver14:25
llutzJimnastics_: winpcap?? why not  libpcap14:26
nosrednaekimMigs-se: did it work this time?14:27
nosrednaekimDownix2k: its in the package "openssh-server" I believe14:27
llutzJimnastics_: snort depends on libpcap0.814:27
Jimnastics_llutz thats for nix14:27
Jimnastics_iam in xp14:27
Downix2kalso, adept won't unlock once I shut it down14:27
nosrednaekim!windows14:27
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents14:27
llutzJimnastics_: aaah, #windows then14:27
Jimnastics_k14:27
Downix2kwhy would someone wanting windows help come here?14:28
Downix2kwould be akin to showing up for an Amiga convention wanting help with a CoCo14:29
Migs-sebrb. again. sorry nosrednaekim14:31
nosrednaekimMigs-se: k14:31
edithx for ur help nosrednakim and llutz14:32
edidoes this settings still remain after reboot ?14:32
llutzedi: yes14:32
edigood :)14:32
edibye14:32
Downix2kok, now trying a remote login14:32
Downix2kif this works, I'll be shutting down X14:33
Downix2kok, logged in!14:33
Downix2kshutting down X14:33
TheFuzzballDoes anyone have Flash player working with Konqueror?14:37
TheFuzzballplayer 9 I mean :)14:37
kdehelp_I still dont have sound and video.. I have dnlded flash and firefox says its installed and reboot firefox..I did and still no video..can someone help me with vid and sound'14:38
TheFuzzballThe latest flash works with Firefox, but not Konqueror (which I prefer)14:39
llutzits a bug in konqueror which prevents usage of flash >.04814:39
TheFuzzballis there a fix?14:39
llutzafaik no14:39
TheFuzzball:'(14:39
Xcelllol14:40
TheFuzzballdoes anyone have the old version of Flash player that worked?14:40
llutzuse the one from the repos14:40
TheFuzzballI did that14:40
TheFuzzballIt dodn't work14:40
TheFuzzballdidn't*14:40
TheFuzzballthe repo downloads flash player as a .tar.bz2 and installs it, but that file doesn't exist anymore or something cause' the download failed14:41
nosrednaekimMigs-se: working yet?14:42
bjwebbhi14:42
bjwebbapturl seems like a cool idea, but uses gnome stuff atm14:43
dreamcoderis there a program to search usenet nzbs in linux14:43
bjwebbis there any plan to integrate apturl more into kubuntu (using adept)14:43
bjwebbemilsedgh: make your mind up14:45
emilsedghbjwebb: what?14:46
nosrednaekimbjwebb: certainly is! go to tonio's PPA on launchpad14:46
nosrednaekim!newsgroups | dreamcoder14:46
ubotudreamcoder: There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org14:46
TheFuzzballllutz: http://pastebin.com/d128ec05c14:47
nosrednaekimdreamcoder: I think akregator can do it.14:47
TheFuzzballllutz: that's what I get when trying to install flash14:47
llutzTheFuzzball:  :( never had that, sorry no idea14:47
Jeroihello14:48
Jeroiagain14:48
bjwebbnosrednaekim: how would i find ti14:48
Jeroifinally got flash working14:48
Jeroiamd6414:48
Jeroibut14:48
mendredhi flash is not running on konqueror for amd64, its running fine in firefox...any ideas?14:48
TheFuzzballThis is a fresh install of Kubuntu, if it doesn't work for me then it won't work for any others that install it14:48
mendredjeroi14:48
Jeroiis here someone who understand how to build wxwidgets?14:48
nosrednaekimbjwebb: its on Antony Mercante's Personal Package archive,14:48
mendredis it working in konqueror?14:48
TheFuzzballno14:48
Jeroifirefox atlest14:49
TheFuzzballit's not!14:49
bjwebbnosrednaekim: yeah, ive found the page now i think14:49
TheFuzzball:'(14:49
JeroiI dont use kongueror14:49
Jeroiwell I test14:49
Jeroino14:50
mendredjeroi: ok thanks14:50
Jeroibut firefox works like a charm14:50
mendredyeah same here14:50
TheFuzzballFirefox is horrible and slow, and GTK :)14:50
TheFuzzballI want Konqueror!14:50
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Jeroinobody knows how to build wxwidgets?14:50
Jeroias I have done that alrready14:50
bjwebbnosrednaekim: hmm i still use firefox as a browser, so can i get kde apturl frontend thru firefox?14:51
nosrednaekimJeroi: this is not the correct channel for that.14:51
Jeroiyes14:51
JeroiI know14:51
nosrednaekimbjwebb: yeah.... not sure. maybe.14:51
Jeroithis is why I ask if some one knows then we could discuss in private14:51
nosrednaekimJeroi: there is probably a channel just for Wxwidgets14:51
dreamcoderyea i am using giganews at the moment just wanted a program like alt.binz but i can use alt.binz under wine but now alt.binz are charging for the use of the new version which allows nzb search14:52
Jeroiyes, but in which network is the problem I guess14:52
bjwebb#wxwidgets exists14:52
dreamcoderso was looking for an alternative14:52
Jeroithansk14:52
dreamcoderalso a usenet proggy witch can use 256bit encryption14:53
dreamcoderif possible14:53
yaccinwhy doesnt my wacom work anymore?14:53
nosrednaekim!newsreader14:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:54
dreamcoderok thanks14:54
TheFuzzballdoes anyone have a copy of flash plugin for linux version 9,0,48.00?14:54
bjwebbTheFuzzball: i might14:55
TheFuzzballbjwebb: can you put it on a file sharing site and send me a link?14:55
bjwebbTheFuzzball: i mean i have it installed14:56
TheFuzzballyea14:56
bjwebbinstall it thru apt14:56
TheFuzzballbjwebb: just copy the libflashplayer.so for ~/.mozilla/plugins14:56
TheFuzzballbjwebb: It doesn't work14:56
bjwebbokay14:56
tafsenHi14:56
tafsenWhy can't I use fingerprints on mp3 files?  "Fingerprinting of .mp3 files is not supported."14:56
bjwebbif you're sure you know what ure doing14:56
tafsenin amarOk14:56
yaccinwhy doesnt my wacom work anymore?14:57
llutzTheFuzzball: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/17389014:58
TheFuzzballtafsen: install libtunepimp5-mp314:58
TheFuzzballthanks14:58
tafsenTheFuzzball: Thanks mate :)14:59
TheFuzzballtafsen: np15:00
ElFlockohey guys i have some trouble installing kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. when the x-server starts my displays show "overrange" for a few seconds and after that it jumps back to tty1. i tried different VGA modes and the graphics safe mode. are there any tricks? (video card is an X1950XT15:01
BluesKajElFlocko, X1950XT what brand?15:02
ElFlockosaphire ati15:02
nosrednaekimElFlocko: you might try modfying the xorg driver to be vesa from that command line and then running "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"15:02
ElFlockothanks, i'll try it!15:03
yaccinwhy doesnt my wacom work anymore?15:04
llutzyaccin: define "anymore"15:04
yaccinllutz: it worked a few weeks ago15:04
BluesKajElFlocko, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to modify 'xorg15:04
soulrider!xorg15:05
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto15:05
ElFlockothanks, guys i think that will help me!15:07
tuxwulfIs there any place I can still download Feisty's ISO?15:10
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jussi01!feisty | tuxwulf15:11
ubotutuxwulf: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php15:11
jussi01hmmmm15:11
jussi01thats a little out of date...15:11
tuxwulfNot there ...15:11
tuxwulfDapper and Gutsy only,it seems...15:12
llutzhttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/15:12
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PolitikerNEUIs it possible that kde4 svn is broken the last days in kubuntu?15:14
emilsedghPolitikerNEU: i svn up'ed yesterday, just compiled...15:14
Tm_TMeTa[AwAy]: awaynick?15:15
PolitikerNEUI use kdesvn-build - can that cause problems?15:15
tuxwulfllutz: Thanks!15:15
llutztuxwulf np, you also can use a mirror more close to you, just change the url15:16
ktosiahello, in KDE, how to have  alt-tab  going through all windows from all desktops?15:17
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MetaMorfoziSTm_T > yes15:18
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: seen guidelines?15:18
ktosia hello, in KDE, how to have  alt-tab  going through all windows from all desktops?15:19
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tuxwulfllutz: Ok.... thanks again!15:19
nyorkktosia: configure it in system settings -> Computer Administration -> Keyboard & Mouse -> keyboard shortcuts15:19
ktosianyork: well it is there, but walking not via ALL desktops15:19
MetaMorfoziSTm_T > are you a droid?15:20
Tm_Tyes15:20
MetaMorfoziSAway humans not allowed here?15:20
Tm_T!away | MetaMorfoziS15:20
ubotuMetaMorfoziS: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines15:20
MetaMorfoziSidiot.15:20
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: que?15:20
JohnFluxktosia: file a bug report for having that shortcut15:22
PolitikerNEUthese are the errors I get - the problem is: the error messages are in german - is it possible to change the compiler output language to english? http://pastebin.com/d79c8aa6415:23
TheFuzzballThe new flash crashes nspluginviewer15:25
TheFuzzballhttp://pastebin.com/d48bbd3e215:25
TheFuzzballthat's the backtrace15:26
Migs-seokay15:26
Migs-seHmmm15:27
Migs-senos is gone15:27
Migs-sehopefully someone can help me out15:27
Migs-selast thing Nosmentioned was15:27
Migs-se[16:22] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"15:27
Migs-sewhich was to download the latest drivers for the nvidia video card15:27
Migs-seso, where do I type sudo apt-get install restricted-manager again?15:28
jussi01Migs-se: did it work?15:28
Migs-seI did the update15:28
Migs-sebut hav't typed that command in yet15:28
Migs-seand forgot where to do it in15:28
jussi01menu - system - konsole15:28
jussi01:)15:28
Migs-sea friend came by and needed help with his Xbox, thats why I had to pause everyhting15:28
Migs-se*everything15:28
jussi01Migs-se: :D15:28
Migs-seokay, typed that in15:29
Migs-seit asked for answered and entered it15:29
Migs-senow it needs to unpack and it's asking me if it should continue15:30
Migs-sewhich I'll say yes to now15:30
jussi01Migs-se: yep15:30
Migs-sewait, it has to download it?15:30
Migs-seand it's busy downloading it now15:31
jussi01!enter | Migs-se15:32
ubotuMigs-se: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:32
jussi01;)15:32
Migs-seeh?15:33
Migs-seokay, the download is done15:34
Migs-seso what do I do now?15:34
jussi01Migs-se: and its installed?15:34
Migs-sesupposedly15:35
Migs-selast line was 'setting up restricted manager (0.20)15:35
Migs-seand thats it15:35
Migs-seit's back to the command prompt15:35
jussi01great15:35
jussi01Migs-se: do you now have the restricted manager in system settings?15:36
Migs-senope15:36
Migs-seI do hae a Synaptic Package Manager in System though15:37
Migs-sethats new15:37
Migs-se*have15:37
jussi01Migs-se: are you sure its not under advanced?15:37
Migs-senot in advanced, I've checked15:37
Migs-sewant me to list what I have in advanced?15:38
jussi01Migs-se: no, go to konsole and run :15:38
jussi01kdesu restricted-manager15:38
Migs-seI'm in15:39
Migs-seI see Nvidia listed and there is a tick box for enabled15:39
jussi01Migs-se: :D15:40
Migs-sewhen I click on it, it says enable driver or cancel15:40
Migs-seit warns its a propriety driver15:40
jussi01Migs-se: yep, it should15:40
jussi01:D15:40
Migs-seso, enable?15:40
jussi01yes15:40
Migs-seit's downloading now15:41
jussi01:)15:41
Migs-sefile 1 of 1 it says15:41
Migs-sealmost done15:42
Migs-seabout 20 seconds left15:42
Migs-seokay, it says changes applyed15:43
jussi01Migs-se: great :D15:43
jussi01Migs-se: now restart x and off you go15:43
jussi01:)15:43
Migs-seand needs a computer restart, which I will do now15:43
Migs-seKubuntu is now restarting15:44
Migs-sehopefully the tv-out will work now15:44
prxqHi. I've set up a printer using System Settings -> Printer -> etc. It works fine from there, printing the test page and everything. However, when I try to print from kpdf, it does not appear in the drop-down list of the print dialog. Any ideas?15:45
Migs-sealrighty15:46
Migs-senow to switch it off and try it with the TV Now15:46
Migs-seHmm15:47
Migs-seswitched on and no display on the TV yet15:48
Migs-sebut I hear Kubuntu is loading. presumably15:48
Migs-sejudging by the churning of the hard drive15:48
Migs-seman, this blows15:49
Migs-sestill no display at all15:49
Migs-seplugged in the monitor and it has display15:50
Migs-seso, how do I turn on the TV-Out?15:50
jussi01Mi'have a look in the display bit in system settings15:51
Migs-sehow do I put the settings into effect? the apply button is greyed out15:52
Migs-sei'm in administrator mode by the way15:52
jussi01hmmm... Im not sure15:53
BluesKajprxq, there is no print option in "file" of the page in kpdf  ?15:55
Migs-sethat does't sound good.15:55
MidMarkMigs-se: log-out and restart X15:55
Migs-seclick restart button you mean?15:56
MidMarkno15:57
MidMarklog-out then restart X server from user login15:57
Migs-seI'm sorry, but how do I do that?15:58
Migs-sedo it in the Konsole?15:58
MidMarkMigs-se: you understand "log out" ?15:58
Migs-seas in click the button that says log out?15:58
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Mikkoeicca u here?15:59
MidMarkMigs-se: exactly and from user login you can restart X, there are other options in the page, just have a look around15:59
Mikkoeicca come to #poo15:59
Mikkonot working :(15:59
Mikko#emo15:59
Mikkocome to emo eicca!15:59
Migs-seMidMark do you mean 'restart x server?16:00
MidMarkyup16:00
Migs-seit's done16:00
Migs-seand back to the login screen16:00
MidMarkMigs-se: yes that it, new config are read now16:00
Migs-selog in as normal?16:00
Migs-seeven weirder though16:01
Migs-setv still not activated16:01
MidMark!tv-out16:01
ubotuFor help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)16:01
prxqBluesKaj: no.16:01
prxqBluesKaj: or, rather, what do you mean?16:01
MikkoEIICCCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa16:01
Mikkowhy aint ma wow working?16:01
prxqBluesKaj: When I go to file->print I get a dialog. There the drop down  menu doesn't show my printer.16:02
Mikko!fi16:02
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi16:02
Migs-seokay, stupid question time16:04
Migs-sewhere is the terminal?16:04
MidMark!terminal16:04
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal16:04
jussi01Migs-se: it is konsole16:04
Migs-sethanks16:04
Migs-sewhen I type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' I get an error of 'failed to open device'16:06
NickPresta!baddevice | Migs-se16:07
ubotuMigs-se: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors16:07
* MidMark loves ubotu16:08
Migs-sehow do i edit xorg.conf then? trying to follow the guide that you linked me to16:08
BluesKajprxq, but pages other than pdf will print ok ?16:09
MidMarkMigs-se: after you did that command and hit enter then kate will open so what is the problem?16:09
Migs-sekate did'nt open16:10
Migs-seI got that error message16:10
Migs-seinstead16:10
Migs-sewell, nothing opened up16:10
MidMarkit should, the error doesn't affect kate for opens, and stop hit enter to say one phrase, this someone already said to you16:10
Migs-sesorry16:10
Migs-seIt was an after thought. <-- is this safe though?16:11
Mikkoeicca16:11
Migs-seokay, so should I open kate and manually find the xorg.conf file?16:11
Mikkoim banned from emo? xD16:11
MidMarkMigs-se: yes16:11
EiccaMikko: private16:11
MikkoEicca: ooo :D16:12
MidMarkMigs-se: well no sorry, try to check it, if should open16:12
Eicca#mikko_on_homo16:12
Migs-seI opened up kate, now just need to know where the xorg.conf file is16:12
MidMarkMigs-se: if you write that command kate should open, probably not in fron of you, just check in opened programs in the tackbar at the bottom16:13
MidMarktry to look around you and not only after your noise :)16:13
BluesKajMigs-se, the command  kdesu kate 'filename' is not meant for the terminal/konsole , that command is for the run command dialog box in the kmenu or 'alt+F2'16:13
MidMarkBluesKaj: should work in the console too isn't?16:14
BluesKajthe konsole should use sudo not kdesu16:14
Migs-sewill try it again then16:14
BluesKaj!kdesu16:14
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)16:14
Mikko#eiccaisgay16:15
amber_hello16:15
Migs-sethat worked, thanks BluesKaj16:15
MidMarkMikko: stop spamming!16:15
Mikkook sry :)16:16
MidMarkMigs-se: yes you can type kdesu commands just hitting ALT+F2 and that it :)16:18
Migs-sethen I will continue following the guide16:19
TopAgentI know this is a lot to ask but can someone help me get video and sound on my laptop.. I am writing on my desk top now and don't have sound or flash on my laptop.  I have one ubuntu cd and it is the one I used for the desktop.. Y I don't have sound or vid is killin me... I went to flash.com and followed the directions as to the best of my abilities and still dont have it.. Help please.16:22
BlissexTopAgent: the Ubuntu Wiki has full instructions on how to use proprietary extensions...16:23
TopAgentim using kde is that the same16:24
MikkoHow do i install Lemming ball z?16:24
Mikko!fi16:24
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi16:24
TopAgentwhat is and where is ubuntu wiki?16:25
NickPresta!flash > TopAgent16:25
TopAgentyes16:25
MikkoHow do i install Lemming ball z?16:26
TopAgentyes NickPresta I would like to install Flash16:26
NickPrestaTopAgent, did you get that private message?16:26
TopAgentno16:26
icewatermanwhen can i expect a non-security patch to kdesudo being integrated into ubuntu packages?16:26
NickPresta!flash | TopAgent16:26
ubotuTopAgent: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash16:27
TopAgentwhen typing " !restricted " where are you typig this...   ? In help?16:28
NickPrestaTopAgent, follow the directions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash16:28
TopAgentok  ill try thx16:28
TopAgentoh no..  when I click on the link a window doesn16:29
TopAgentopen    is this normal in linux/?16:29
MikkoHow do i install Lemming ball z?16:29
MinnozzHi, my internet is terribly slow and I don't know why. Ping takes ages, opening a website too. How can I see what causes this? iftop shows about 1 KB/s traffic16:31
bazhangMikko: is that a windows game?16:31
NickPrestaMikko, head to http://www.lbz3d.com/?hp=download download the source (the tar.bz2 archive) and compile it from source. Type in !compile to see how16:31
bazhangoops16:32
Mikkono it is linux16:32
sigmahas anyone here ever used firewall builder before?16:32
sigmahas anyone here ever used firewall builder before?16:35
NickPrestasigma, you don't have to repeat your question 3 minutes later. If no one has used it, no one will answer.16:35
sigmalol sorry16:37
sigmaoh yes nick, i managed to sort that video encoding problem out - used a program called kvideoencoder and it worked perfectly16:37
BluesKajsigma, why worry about a FW anyway, it's not windows16:38
Mikkoi fucking hate kubuntu16:38
LjL!language | Mikko16:38
ubotuMikko: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:38
sigmablueskaj: i need to share my internet connection and those tools are the only way to do it16:38
Mikkoim speaking english16:38
sigmamikko: what did it do to u?16:38
MinnozzMy internet is terribly slow and I don't know why. Ping takes ages, opening a website too. How can I see what causes this? iftop shows about 1 KB/s traffic16:40
Migs-seAlright, after restart I get the blinking white bar of death. How do I got back to editing the xorg.conf file? Looks like I made a mistake in it.16:40
amber_i hate kubunu16:40
sigmaamber: why?16:41
amber_i am used to windows16:41
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Migs-seI'm starting to feel the same. I have respect for people that use linux and have to edit the xorg.conf just to get TV Out working.16:41
amber__i am new to it though16:42
Migs-sesame here, heh16:42
amber__how old is everyone16:42
Migs-seonly started with it an hour ago and already knee deep in problems16:42
Migs-seso, anyone know how to get out of the command line?16:42
Migs-seseems I made an error in the xorg.conf file16:43
jpatrickMigs-se: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might help16:43
bazhangsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg try that Migs-se16:43
Migs-sewill do16:43
amber__i am 11 years old16:43
sigmaamber_: it takes some getting used to16:44
sigmaamber_: why did u switch to kubuntu?16:45
xakahi all! i installed kubuntu, but nobody ask me for root password. how i can change it?!16:45
Dr_willis!root | xaka16:46
ubotuxaka: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo16:46
Migs-seokay, that worked16:46
BluesKajnever too young or old to learn linux, amber__16:46
Dr_willisHow zen of ubotu .16:46
Migs-seso, how to get back to Kububtu main?16:46
xakaDr_willis: wow! this is ubuntu policy? :)16:46
Dr_willisxaka,  yes. Its also a top 10 Faq. :)16:46
sigmalol16:47
Dr_willissudo whatevercommandyouneed16:47
jhutchins!kdesu | xaka16:47
ubotuxaka: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)16:47
Dr_willisor if you need a shell 'sudo -s' then of course 'exit' when done doing root things.16:47
xakai'm go to kubuntu from freebsd and this is newly for me :)16:47
xakai'm try to find best developer linux distr16:48
Migs-sehow do you restart the pc from the command line?16:48
ricanelitei just installed Kubuntu now is it possible to get Compiz-Fusion working which I have currently have installed already being that i have been using Gnome desktop16:48
jpatrickMigs-se: sudo reboot16:49
bazhang!compiz | ricanelite16:49
uboturicanelite: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion16:49
jpatrick!compiz | ricanelite16:49
xaka!terminus16:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about terminus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:49
Migs-sethat seems to have worked. thanks jpatrick16:49
ricaneliteahh got you, thank you16:49
jpatrick!cli | xaka16:50
ricanelitewhat about avant window can you use that on KDE?16:50
ricanelitelast thing i did alt+f2 and typed in compiz --replace how do i undo that?16:51
bazhangkwin --replace16:51
xakawhen i installed apps, where package manager cache downloadable deb files? i want copy them to another PC16:52
jpatrickxaka: /var/cache/apt/archives16:53
jhutchinsxaka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto16:53
Stilo!de16:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:53
x_brunohi16:55
x_brunoI need some help, since distro-upgrade, lots of programs do not display properly16:56
x_brunoall text is now squares16:56
Migs-seokay guys and gals16:56
Migs-sethank you for all the help so far16:56
Migs-sebut I've had enough16:56
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Aleksander-plHello all - how to change login screen resolution?16:57
Migs-segoing to go find a Freedom Toaster that has the Linux Media Center and burn that to CDs16:57
Migs-sefor now, Kubuntu is toast16:57
Dr_willisI like GeeXBox for my media playing needs :)16:58
jpatrickMigs-se: why?16:58
matttisthats really annoying. I just deselected kdm in system -> services and then kde was killed and doesn't work normal if started again...16:58
Dr_willismatttis,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm    perhaps?16:58
TopAgentHello again everyone.... I have used the webpage you gave me Nick and it still has a distorted video box... say on discovery.com///   it is the same,,, as the flashplayer is there but dosn't display the video.. There is just a couple colored jigsaw puzzle pieces where the video should be..DOES this help anyone in figuring out what my kubuntu may be missing....   Please help16:58
x_brunoalso for me eclipse stopped working, dammed distro-upgrade16:59
Migs-sejpatrick: I'm getting no where, can't login back to the graphical interface. I'm pretty much getting the BWBOD AKA Blinking White Bar Of Death.16:59
Migs-seI'm pretty much fed up.16:59
jpatrickMigs-se: was it working before?16:59
Migs-seDr_willis: GeeXBox? for the Xbox? Linux on Xbox?16:59
bazhangMigs-se: so you said--would you like help fixing it?16:59
Migs-sejpatrick: Yes, but had to make changes to the conf file just to enable the tv-out and it seems I made an error somewhere.17:00
Dr_willisMigs-se,  nope.. nothing to do with xbox at all.17:00
Migs-sesorry, I mean the xorg.conf17:00
Dr_willisMigs-se,  a mini live cd/installable disrto taht is just a media player. :)17:00
Migs-sethat is sweet17:00
Dr_willisMigs-se,  i got it installed on my laptop - i can fast boot to the media player now.17:00
Dr_willisit also handles UPNP17:00
bazhangnice17:01
Migs-secan it handle tvout?17:01
Dr_willisand has a customizer program so you can make your own live cd's17:01
Dr_willisMigs-se,  supposed to be able to. never tried tv out on it.17:01
Migs-sebazhang, that would be great17:01
Dr_willishandles various remotes also.17:01
Migs-sebut I have a feeling I won't accomplish what I'm trying to do.17:01
Migs-seseriously, this is pretty knee deep stuff for a beginner17:02
Dr_willisIts a 50mb Install to HD. :) so my laptop has 2 Linux's on it.. Geexbox and Ubuntu.17:02
Migs-sewha? that small? wow17:02
Dr_willisMigs-se,  no idea what you are trying to do. so cant helop ya much. :)17:02
Migs-sewill do a search for it now and see if I can download it17:02
Dr_willisGeeXbox live cd - boots/copies itself to ram, then ejexcts the cd. so it can play dvd's also17:02
Migs-seI just want a linux based media center to play videos on the TV. thats it.17:02
bazhangMigs-se: you need to describe your problem in detail for the folks here to help17:02
Dr_willisGeeXbox can do that.17:02
Dr_willisMythTV can do that.17:03
bazhangmythbuntu17:03
Migs-seif they are cd images, then I'm screwed17:03
Dr_willisTheres proberly other Tivo-takeoffs also.17:03
Migs-sedon't have the bandwidth to download such large files.17:03
bazhangmythdora17:03
Dr_willisgeexbox = 50mb or so download.17:03
Dr_willislooks like you dont have much options then.17:03
Dr_willisOr install Kubuntu/Ubuntu/ then Mythtv on Ubuntu17:04
Migs-sethats what I am trying to do17:04
dreamcoderwhich is better to use normal wine or crossover office?17:04
bazhanggeexbox sounds way easier than mythtv17:04
Migs-sebut don't I have to enable TV-Out first before installing MythTV?17:04
Dr_willisGeexbox is easier for just video playback.17:04
Dr_willisMigs-se,  not really.   Whats your video card? TV out is easy to enable on nvidia.17:05
Daisuke-Laptopgeexbox is awesomeness in a can17:05
Daisuke-Laptopand only uses 15mb17:05
bazhangMigs-se: what size tv? lcd plasma other17:05
Daisuke-Laptoptops17:05
Migs-seIt's a SDTV. 51' Toshiba17:06
alakhiawhat calendaring tool would you guys recommend?17:06
* bazhang goes to download geexbox17:06
Migs-seGeexbox iso is just 8.9 MB? wow17:06
Daisuke-Laptopyeah17:06
Daisuke-Laptopextra cool17:06
Dr_willisI saw a  LCD TV today that had networking/wireless networking. and could some how play videosfiles from the pcs on the network. :) THATS got possibiltys17:06
Daisuke-Laptopmy install's 15mb because i included a metric ton of codecs17:06
bazhangMigs-se: what resolution?17:06
Dr_willisMigs-se,  you may want to use the geexbox customizer - if you are going to network the machine. Youc ans et the Samba name/password and otehr tweaks17:06
Tm_T!offtopic17:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!17:07
scottman_hello17:07
Migs-sewill download that too Dr_willis17:07
Daisuke-Laptop*definitely* use the customizer17:07
jhutchins!tvout | Migs-se17:07
ubotuMigs-se: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)17:07
Miluxhi17:07
alakhia!calendar17:07
Miluxc'è un modo per gestire il volume a gxine senza che modifichi il volume PCM in alsa?17:07
scottman_anyone here know rhythmbox?17:07
Daisuke-Laptopthe standard ISO is terribly subpar17:07
ubotucalendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event17:07
Migs-sebazhang: resolution is 480p17:07
bazhanghi Milux17:07
Dr_willisI wish the customizer had a preview of the themes..17:07
Daisuke-Laptopscottman_: that's a gnome app17:07
scottman_oops.17:07
Daisuke-LaptopDr_willis: dragoon, and that's all you need :D17:07
scottman_sorry.17:07
Migs-sejhutchins, I've tryed that and Failed. Got the BWBOD. :)17:07
Miluxops sorry17:07
Daisuke-Laptopscottman_: no worries17:07
scottman_I'm using it with Kubuntu17:07
Dr_willisDaisuke-Ido,  thats the one im using on my latest cd. :)17:07
Miluxhow i can control the volume with gxine without change PCM alsa volume?17:07
scottman_what do you recommend for kde for music?17:07
Daisuke-LaptopDr_willis: love it17:08
Dr_willisI do wish the darn web site/docs had better referance for the keyboard controlls also.17:08
bazhangMigs-se: lots of options in linux; don't give up just yet :}17:08
Daisuke-Laptopscottman_: amarok, no question17:08
Migs-seso Dr_willis, I will onlu need the geexbox iso and the customiser only?17:08
Dr_willisMigs-se,  you JUST need the customizer.17:08
scottman_oh.17:08
scottman_ok17:08
jhutchinsMigs-se: Which card?17:08
bazhangscottman_: amarok17:08
Dr_willisrun it - select the various options. It can download codecs and stuff.. then makes the cd.17:08
scottman_I'd like to use amarok for podcasts.17:08
Daisuke-LaptopMigs-se: you putting together a dedicated tv box?17:08
scottman_I'm hoping that it won't use file names with question marks for the files.17:08
Dr_willislast i used the custmizer however.. the Linux binary didetn work. I had to use 'wine customizer.exe' :)17:09
bazhangscottman_: it does that no problem17:09
Daisuke-LaptopDr_willis: don't forget to edit the etc/nfs file if you want to use nfs shares17:09
Migs-seI had it working with a Ati Radeon 9250 in windows. But you guys mentioned I have better luck using a Nvidia card, so now I've put a Nvidia Geforce FX520017:09
jhutchinsMigs-se: You might add a comment to the howto page that it didn't work for your card.17:09
alakhiaanyone? I need a calendar tool with todo lists, events, etc. What would you guys recommend?17:09
scottman_when i try to transfer the files to my removable flash drive, there are errors and I have to rename it.17:09
Daisuke-LaptopDr_willis: linux customizer works :)17:09
Daisuke-Laptopwhat filesystem's on the flash drive?17:09
scottman_fat17:09
Migs-seDaisuke-Ido: A dedicated Video Player Box. No TV playback or recording at all.17:09
Dr_willisDaisuke-Laptop,  except it dident work.. Not sure what the deal was..17:09
Daisuke-LaptopMigs-se: streaming from another machine?17:10
scottman_fat32 I think17:10
Migs-sejhutchins: I don't think that is the problem17:10
scottman_hmmm.17:10
Migs-seI may have made a mistake somewhere17:10
Migs-seso not certain17:10
Dr_willisWith a Nvidia card. IF you boot up - with JUST a tv attatched. ive seen them default to the tv out  - with No tweaking needed. :)17:10
scottman_I will try out amarok again.17:10
ubuntu_przepraszam sa tu polacy xDD17:10
Daisuke-Laptopnow the big question: does the tv you're connecting this to have a vga input?17:10
Dr_willisbut that may depend on the nvidia card.17:10
Migs-seDaisuke-Ido: Sometimes it may playback files from a Windows Based PC on the network.17:10
bazhangKontact alakhia17:10
Migs-seDaisuke-Ido: No VGA input on my TV17:10
Daisuke-Laptopthat sucks :\17:11
Daisuke-Laptopi found that was the easiest way to set mine up17:11
Migs-seIt's a SDTV, to be expected17:11
alakhiabazhang ... oh, yes, I have it installed17:11
Migs-senot LCD and up17:11
Daisuke-Laptopright17:11
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alakhiabazhang ... thanks ... let me read about it ... i hope it can sync with goggle calendar17:11
bazhangalakhia: good news17:11
Daisuke-Laptopmmmkay17:11
Migs-seokay, I downloaded GeeXboX 1.1 for i386 (PC). Is this correct Dr_willis?17:11
Dr_willisMigs-se,  there was only 2 downloads a .iso and a .tgz i think L:) get the tgz17:12
scottman_thanks17:12
Daisuke-Laptopfor nvidia, geexbox handles tv-out perfectly17:12
Migs-seI see there are GeeXboX ISO Generator - GeeXboX Sources and GeeXboX Debian Repository for download17:12
Migs-seI got the Iso, not the tgz17:12
Daisuke-LaptopMigs-se: you want the ISO generator17:12
xakahm...i installed xfont-terminus package, but i don't see this fonts from Konsole font's propertie17:12
jussi01Hmmm, if i am trying to install some debs that are dependant on each other, how do I make them install all the way - as when I dpkg -i them it gives me dependancy probs, saying the other ones are not configured yet17:12
alakhiawhat exactly is iCal ?17:13
Migs-seall the downloads on there are in iso format only anyway17:13
Migs-se<Daisuke-Laptop> Migs-se: you want the ISO generator <-- do you mean I have to download it or is it a question?17:13
bazhanghttp://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/11/howto-two-way-sync-between-kontact-and-gcal/ alakhia17:13
bazhangalakhia: mac os version17:14
Migs-sedownloading the iso generator now17:14
alakhiabazhang: thanks ... reading page right now17:15
bazhangalakhia: no worries :}17:15
jhutchinsjussi01: Sounds like an error in the packages.17:15
jussi01jhutchins: no, it isnt. its just that the packages depend on one another17:15
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Migs-seHmm17:20
Migs-selooks like geexbox supports the Ati Radeon line of cards17:20
BluesKajdependecy hell17:20
BluesKajerr dependency hell17:20
BluesKajthe trick is to find which is the key dependency , then the others will install...usually17:21
jussi01BluesKaj: yeah, thanks. :D17:22
Migs-seman Dr_willis, I hope this works17:23
Migs-seif it does, I love ya man! wish you arrived much earlier!17:23
Migs-secould have saved me loads of time17:23
Migs-senot could, would17:24
BluesKajjussi01, there is one way that will sometimes work , try synaptic , it will give you a clue which app you need first ...if it's in the repos17:24
matttisCan someone look under K Menu -> System -> Services for the update tool command please ?17:24
jussi01BluesKaj: ahh we are all sorted. well kinda - was thinking of trying to install something from hardy, but looks like it needs a little newer version of some stuff. Time to go annoy backports :D17:25
jpatrickmatttis: adept_updater17:25
matttisjpatrick: only that ? thanks17:25
Migs-serighty, first problem. no tv-out with the Nvidia. that blows17:26
Migs-setime to put in the trusty Ati Radeon 925017:26
Dr_willisenable tv out in xorg17:26
BluesKajjussi01, : )17:26
Dr_willistv out on ati can be a pain17:27
xakawarning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory17:28
xakai got this when install terminus17:28
Migs-sewow17:29
Migs-setv-out worked right out of the box17:29
Migs-seor should I say, right out of the iso17:29
bazhangsweet17:29
nosrednaekimMigs-se: congrats!17:29
Migs-sehey nosrednaekim, welcome back17:30
nosrednaekimMigs-se: you did a reinstall?17:30
bazhanggeexbox17:30
Migs-sequestion Dr_willis, you mentioned geexbox can be installed to the hard drive17:30
emilsedghKubuntu is going to to out of the box everywhere.really, congratulations to all of the community17:30
Migs-senosrednaekim, nah. I pretty much given up hope17:30
Migs-sethink I made a mistake editing the xorg.conf and now I get the BWBOD17:31
Migs-sethats Blinking White Bar Of Death17:31
bazhangand Hardy is even better17:31
Dr_willisgeexbox faq details that17:31
nosrednaekimlol17:31
nosrednaekimMigs-se: soo..... what are you trying now?17:31
Migs-sewill check it up Dr_willis, thanks17:31
Migs-senosrednaekim, trying out geexbox17:31
Migs-sefirst linuz distro to actually work with my ati tv-out17:32
Migs-seI think the Nvidia TV Out is busted. too bad17:32
Migs-se*Linux17:32
nosrednaekimMigs-se: ah yeah, thats good for TVs17:32
Migs-sethat was the point nosrednaekim. building a media center here :)17:32
Migs-sejust for video playback17:32
MilitantPotatoIs this a good fstab setup for a NTFS internal drive in FSTAB?  UUID=**** /media/sdb6 ntfs-3g auto,user,rw,exec,sync,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 117:33
Migs-sethanks for the tip Dr_willis17:33
BluesKaj!MCE17:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:33
nosrednaekimMigs-se: so what are you playing back? dvds? for do you have MythTV backend17:33
BluesKaj!info MCE17:33
ubotuPackage mce does not exist in gutsy17:33
nosrednaekim!linuxMCE17:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:34
BluesKaj!Linux_MCE17:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux_mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:34
MilitantPotatoNothing in factoids about MCE...17:34
bazhanghttp://en.ubuntumediacenter.org/17:34
Dr_willisnvidia tv out works fine for me.. Or are you refering to Geex Boxs nvidia tv out?17:34
Migs-seholy shit17:34
Migs-seand excuse my french17:34
Migs-sebut it works17:34
Dr_willisOften with tv out - it may depend on the Specific video card.17:34
Migs-seDr_willis, no. I mean the tvout of the actuall Video card17:34
Migs-seit's a geforce FX 520017:35
Dr_williswith my nvidia cards,  5500, 6800, 8800 i could just plug in the tv and ONLY the tv.. and reboot and it would default to the tv out.17:35
Dr_willisI could even install ubuntu with just the tv hooked up17:35
Dr_willisBut the 5200 may be an older card taht dont work that way17:35
bazhangwow17:35
Migs-securrently playing back a 1280x720 h264 file streaming off my Windows XP machine. Sweeet. It runs so ~smooth~.17:36
Migs-senow to enable subs17:36
nosrednaekimMigs-se: HD TV?17:37
Migs-seno. SDTV17:37
Migs-seman, this file was close to chocking in XP17:37
bazhangI use my eeepc for that :}17:37
Migs-seyet plays like it's nothing in Geexbox17:37
nosrednaekim1280x720 isn't SD, is it?17:38
OzonedCan anyone suggest where I could find help for this problem. Browser is unable to make an http post. Don't know where else to try.17:38
bazhang480p is SD17:38
bazhangOzoned: an http post?17:38
nosrednaekimOzoned: konqueror?17:38
Migs-seweird. subs are enabled but none are showing up.17:39
Migs-seor it can't read subtitles that are in a mkv file17:39
OzonedAny browser, FF konq, yes an http post, dual boot box, win works, gutsy not, but GET post works17:39
matttishow do i set the system language to german (kde) ?17:40
nosrednaekim!language17:40
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:40
OzonedI have an AMD64 with latest kubuntu installed, everythings works, just cannot post :-(17:40
nosrednaekimlol... wrong factoid XD17:40
MilitantPotatomatttis: K menu, system Settings, regional & language17:40
nosrednaekimwhat do you mean by post?17:40
bazhanghaha17:40
matttisMilitantPotato: and why doesnt that change anything ?17:41
Ozonedlike posting a message to kubuntuforum for example, an html form post17:41
bazhangregion and accessibility  --country region and language17:41
nosrednaekimOzoned: ah.... what error does it give you?17:42
MilitantPotatomatttis: I've no idea, sorry17:42
MilitantPotatomatttis: where it's at is all I know about it17:42
bazhangOzoned: get user agent switcher for firefox then switch browser id17:42
OzonedFirefox gives "Bad Request" Konqueror gives "connection broken" elinks gives timeout17:42
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bazhangmattis you need to log out and re log in17:42
nosrednaekimOzoned: do you have a firewall set up?17:43
Ozonedno firewall yet, just re-installed ;)17:43
nosrednaekimOzoned: any hardware firewalls?17:43
bazhangOzoned: what web address--ill give it a try17:43
matttisMilitantPotato: thanks anyway17:43
Ozonedyes, there is a dlink router, but seems ok for setup17:44
Ozonedbazhang: Example, I can log into kubuntuforums.net, I can write a post, but when I save it, I get the errors mentioned17:44
OzonedOne last thing, I can get an http post to work on localhost17:45
OzonedI'm stumped17:45
bazhangthat is odd17:45
matttisI've problems setting my kde system language. I've choosen german, but it doesn't change anything. I can't add German as language and I can't install it because it should be installed already17:45
OzonedI've used Linex since 1996, never had anything this odd , lol17:46
Ozoned*Linux*17:46
Dr_willis:)17:46
Dr_willisI dident want to correct you Ozoned .17:46
bazhangmatttis: did you set german as the top choice, then log out?17:46
nosrednaekimhuh!17:46
matttisbazhang: i cant even add german17:46
OzonedDr_willis: np, I'm always mistyping17:47
bazhangmatttis: there is a button that says install new language, have you hit that?17:47
Migs-sehmm17:47
toanBonjour probleme: Adept installer est verrouillé et en lecture seul,  que faire ??17:47
Migs-segeexbox needs some tweaking it seems17:47
OzonedI found one entry in the KDE message list about a similar pronlem, but there was no follow up17:47
bazhang!fr | toan17:47
ubotutoan: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:47
Migs-sebut so far so good!17:47
matttisbazhang: i cant choose german, because its already installed17:48
Migs-setoo bad there is no 5.1 audio support for now. that would have rocked if it had it.17:48
gadrenhi, i'm having problems with kaffeine.  No matter what kind of file, when I try to open something in it, it crashes with "Error 11 (SIGSEGV)."  Anyone know how to fix this?17:49
nosrednaekimOzoned: maybe something with IPV6?17:49
bazhangmatttis: what about select system language?17:49
xakaguys, it really bad :(( i can't install terminus, anybody do this in kubuntu?17:49
matttisbazhang: already did that :-)17:49
bazhangmatttis: did you then log out?17:50
OzonedWhat sort of IPV6 thing, I mean what should I look out for?17:50
macaholicI am having problems with apt-get.17:50
nosrednaekimOzoned: no Idea, but thats the only thing i can think of.17:50
matttisbazhang: i logged out a dozen times since it change that setting :-)17:50
OzonedI have internet access, http GET works, even IRC works (heh) but this sucker just wont accept a post17:51
OzonedI swopped to my old ISP on dial-up, only thing I noticed I had to set line termination to CR/LF before it connected17:51
bazhangmatttis: 64bit system?17:51
matttisbazhang: nope17:51
OzonedBut same result using dial-up connection17:52
nosrednaekimodd17:52
bazhangmatttis: what about the log in screen under options?17:53
matttiswhat ?17:53
OzonedIs there a channel for Kubuntu 64bit?, I have no problem with Kubuntu 7.04 on my older 32 bit box17:53
bazhangmatttis: the log in screen--options17:54
nosrednaekimOzoned: i use 64 bit.... same channel17:54
pawel_who Poland17:54
matttisbazhang: where do i find them ?17:54
Migs-seare there any linux distro's that are like Geexbox? does't need to be bootable, just made to play video files from the word GO.17:54
OzonedI really am stumped, don't know what else to try, but thanks anyway17:54
nosrednaekimMigs-se: i think linuxmce does that17:55
nosrednaekimOzoned: yeah... me too17:55
bazhangmatttis: do you know the login screen?17:55
Migs-seYikes, thats the monster, heh17:55
Migs-se4gb download. massive...17:55
nosrednaekimlol17:55
matttisbazhang: yes, kdm17:55
Ozonednosrednaekim: So you have a 64bit, is it AMD?17:55
pawel_who play wormux17:55
nosrednaekimOzoned: turion 6417:55
matttisbazhang: there it is possible to choose a language ?17:55
nosrednaekimx217:56
bazhangmatttis: there is a menu that says session, and should also one that says options17:56
matttisbazhang: you mean i should change the kdm settings ?17:56
bazhangalso be17:56
matttisbazhang: that i can change also under system settings, but there is only english given to choose17:58
sourcemakersomebody using JUK on KDE?17:58
nosrednaekimsourcemaker: the kde4 version, yes17:58
bazhangmatttis: so nothing under options? when in the region screen did you hit apply?17:58
matttiswhen ?17:59
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sourcemakernosrednaekim:  I have a problem with juk. Seeking large sound tracks does not work...17:59
bazhangmatttis: in the language settings screen did you hit apply?17:59
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nosrednaekimsourcemaker: ah,,.... no idea ask in #kde18:00
sourcemakernosrednaekim: With amarok... it also does not work...18:00
matttisbazhang: the problem is harder to solve...18:00
gadrenhi, i'm having problems with kaffeine.  No matter what kind of file, when I try to open something in it, it crashes with "Error 11 (SIGSEGV)."  I can play things in KPlayer just fine, but I would like to get Kaffeine working too.Anyone know how to fix this?18:01
nosrednaekimgadren: I had that problem back in edgy, I just used Codeine for that release.18:01
gadrenmosrednaekim: thanks, that'll do for now :)18:03
nosrednaekimgadren: sorry I can't reccomend something a little better :D18:03
gadrennosrednaekim: no problem18:04
nosrednaekimSee ya everyone! BBL18:04
emilsedghoh, i just upgraded to gutsy and now /media is not working and media:/ is back, could i get /media back again?18:06
bazhangmatttis: in the language setting screen choose the language you want from top menu marked DEFAULT--if it is installed, then it will show right away, you then need to log out18:06
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Dr_willis- /media is just a path.. media:/ is a kioslave18:07
Dr_williswhats not workign with /media ?18:07
Don_jr333Hello, I just installed the 7.10 server.  I can't seem to get online with my wireless at the moment, but thre is a wlan0 present.18:07
emilsedghDr_willis: media:/ is officially removed, /media was detecting stuff in feisty18:07
Don_jr333when I run dhclient wlan0      it tells me it can't creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied.  and I ran it under sudo18:08
Dr_willisHmm i cant even type in /media - some darn Strigi:/ thing keeps poping in the address bar..18:08
bazhangmatttis: I just tried this--and had the option to install german--if you don't have the option, then you are either in Feisty, or don't have german installed18:09
gadrensay, now that i have videos working with KPlayer, is there a way to still have preview thumbnails in konq and dolphin?18:09
pacmananyone know a good .daa convertor?18:09
Dr_willisHmm.. never noticed media:/ missing untill now.. It worked on my other machines i thought18:09
Dr_willishow sad. :)18:09
bazhangacetone iso pacman18:09
Ozonedhas anyone noticed problems with KMySqlAdmin? when browsing tables it using all the system memory18:10
bazhanggadren: no video previews in dolphin iirc18:10
matttisbazhang: i installed kde-i18n-de, i'll restart now18:10
Don_jr333Anyone have any ideas with my wireless problem?18:10
gadrenbazhang: oh, ok thanks18:11
bazhanggadren: no worries :}18:11
Don_jr333Wireless card shows up in lsusb, and wlan0 is thre in iwconfig18:11
Don_jr333but it isn't connected18:11
BluesKajpacman, audacity, if you're doing analog to digital18:12
pacmanwell, what I'm trying to do is turn a .daa into a .iso so I can burn it to disk18:12
bazhangpacman: acetone iso18:13
pacmanI'm not seeing acetone on adept18:13
bazhangoutside package iirc18:13
vdvhi all18:13
bazhanghi vdv18:14
BluesKajpacman, try kiso18:14
vdvis there anybody who use OO's calc?18:14
Dr_willisor a windows tool and wine. :)18:14
Don_jr333got it connected.  Can anyone tell me the package I need to install the KDE desktop environment?18:14
kiizhi.where can i get the scanmodem tool18:14
bazhangkubuntu-desktop Don_jr33318:14
Don_jr333bazhang thank you18:14
matttisbazhang: after installing i could choose german as language, fyi18:15
Don_jr333couldn't find any packages named kubuntu-desktop18:15
gadrenbazhang: heh, actually, i did get video previews working in dolphin... i just had to install kdemultimedia18:15
Dr_willis!find kubuntu-desktop18:15
ubotuFound: kubuntu-desktop18:15
bazhangmatttis: good news18:15
Dr_willis!info  kubuntu-desktop18:15
ubotukubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB18:15
bazhanggadren: cool! thanks for the tip!18:16
Don_jr333hmmm, so my repositories arn't right then18:16
alakhiabazhang: found this page to be very helpful: http://www.linux.com/feature/12205418:16
Don_jr333Where are the repositories kept so I can look at them please?18:16
bazhangalakhia: success?18:16
alakhiabazhang: shows step by step instructions for email and calendar18:16
bazhangalakhia: excellent :}18:16
alakhiabazhang: i successfully am using kmail to read gmail18:16
alakhiabazhang: using imap so all my labels work too18:17
bazhangyahoo alakhia18:17
alakhiabazhang: trying out calendaring next18:17
vdvin a 'calc': i have 5 items from A1 to A5, 5 disease names, and from B1 to B5 number of people who is ill with that disease18:17
alakhiabazhang: thanks for all your help! :)18:17
bazhangalakhia: you did it all :}18:17
Don_jr333when I run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  I get   E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop18:18
Dr_willisI woudl do a 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try again18:18
omarcharruahola18:18
Don_jr333thanks Dr_willis it's running18:18
bazhanghi omarcharrua18:19
omarcharruanadie habla español??18:19
gadreni have another question: since i only use the channel pages instead of the server pages in Konversation, is it possible to hide the "Ubuntu IRC" tab without disconnecting?18:19
bazhang!es | omarcharrua18:19
ubotuomarcharrua: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:19
OzonedDon_jr333: /etc/apt/sources.list18:19
Don_jr333Ozoned thank you, I'll check on that if this upgrade thing doesn't fix it, its' running now18:19
omarcharruabuenas tardes y hasta pronto muchas gracias por los datos DIOS LOS BENDIGA18:19
Don_jr333I wrote it down so I don't forget18:19
bazhangde nada18:20
omarcharruaBUENAS TARDES18:20
omarcharruabuenas tardes18:20
bazhangbye :}18:20
Dr_willisNacho Grande!18:20
Dr_willis:)18:20
Don_jr333great, getting Kubuntu now.18:21
Flare183kded is using way too much cpu what should i do about it?18:21
snarksterhi, when i start 7.10 i see a bunch of text scroll across the screen in huge letters, is there a way to configure that to normal font size?18:22
Dr_willisdisable the eye candy?18:22
bazhangFlare183: are you using compiz?18:22
Flare183bashang:> yes18:22
bazhangFlare183: that would be the culprit then18:22
snarksterbtw where do I put the command to automatically start ndiswrapper18:23
xakai have 2 sound cards and when try to play some mp3 file - nothing to listen :( nForce mboard and maudio rev 5.118:23
Flare183bashang:> it has not been doing this until lately18:23
bazhangFlare183: yeah, it leaks memory abit I believe18:23
Flare183bazhang:> anyway to fix this?18:24
bazhangxaka: do you have the codecs installed?18:24
bazhangFlare183: disable compiz, or fix the memory leak?18:24
Flare183bazhang:> fix the memory leak?18:25
Flare183bazhang:> fix the memory leak18:25
bazhangFlare183: try #compiz-fusion18:25
kiizis the scanmodem tool installed by defult18:25
bazhang!info scanmodem18:25
ubotuPackage scanmodem does not exist in gutsy18:25
fdovingFlare183: you can start htop or some resource monitor thing, monitor kded and go to system settings -> advanced -> service manager, then in the Startup Services box, you can stop one by one service (of the ones with status running,  of course), to figure out what eats your cpu.18:26
bazhangkiiz: what is the tool name18:26
Flare183bazhang:> if i just restart compiz would that help?18:27
bazhangFlare183: not sure--I think fdoving's advice would be better18:27
Flare183k18:28
kiizbazhang: scanmodem18:29
bazhangkiiz: not in gutsy repos18:30
bazhangkiiz: you can search in packages.ubuntu.com if you wish18:31
deurytei visited the w2k green box today to do my doody...........  it was full....18:32
xakabazhang: yes, but i have no seen alsaconf18:36
crimsunwe don't ship alsaconf.18:36
crimsun(and haven't since 5.04)18:36
bazhangxaka: I'm not good with sound, sorry I can't help more18:36
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titanix88hello18:41
titanix88Anyone here? :)18:41
BluesKajnope18:41
killermachI just d/l 7.10 x86 desktop CD and did fresh install, on initial boot I run apt updater and it says a new version is available, but fails to upgrade18:41
snarksterive asked like 2 question and no one answered..18:41
killermachwas having sam issue trying to upgrade 7.04 to gutsy via adept upgrade18:42
killermachany help?18:42
titanix88snarkster: what prblm? maybe i can help.18:42
xakai have close my trouble with sound: 1. asoundconf 2. asoundconf set-default-card <name> (name get from asoundconf list)18:43
snarkstertitanix88: 1 where do i put the command modprobe ndiswrapper so my card starts automatically. 2. how do i configure the console so the font isnt so big18:43
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xakaasoundconf - set settings for user. Next we must get list of card by "asoundconf list". Next we must set primary sound card by "asoundconf set-default-card <name>"18:44
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fkeazhello18:44
fkeazdoes anyone actually have indeo5 codec working in 64 bit ?18:44
titanix88snarkster: settings->Fonts18:45
fkeazi have a video file that is hd i want to view but cant18:45
johnficcawhat is the package I need in order for me to share files with other linux pc's18:45
BluesKajxaka, in the konsole : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"18:45
xakaBluesKaj: yeap, now i know this ) need in FAQ i think18:45
titanix88snarkster: after adjusting the font, settings->Save as default18:47
snarkstertitanix88: thank you thats done18:47
szakulecfkeaz: what kind of file do you have?18:47
snarksterwhat run level is multiuser X18:49
titanix88snarkster: try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"18:49
snarkstertitanix88: right sudo modprobe ndiswrapper does work, but isnt there a sysconfig file to place that in so it starts autimatically?18:50
killermachon 7.10 I search adept/synaptic for beryl and there are no results, what repository is missing from a fresh 7.10 install?18:51
BluesKajfkeaz, http://www.mikinews.net/2007/11/22/k-lite-codec-pack-357-full-corporate-standard-basic/18:51
newuserwhat is the best way to set up a kubuntu system after a fresh install...  Specifically, how do I set up kde for ubuntu and sound, video for the web?18:52
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rainhow to teplace kmenu logo with vista logoor how to use kbfx? i installed it with apt-get but i dont know how use it :(18:53
newuserIm using 7.10 gutsy18:54
chuinbrazilians here? D:18:54
BluesKaj!br | chuin18:54
ubotuchuin: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:54
Dr_willisnewuser,  i normally make a script that installs all the packagez i normally want. :)18:54
Dr_willisnewuser,  for a start install 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'18:54
newuserwow, AS a new user, I don't think I can do that18:54
Dr_willisnewuser,  the if you want ubuntu and kubuntu desktop 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'18:55
newusercool, then what for the sound and video18:55
xakawhen i try mount NTFS part - i got "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000". whats wrong?18:56
fkeazszakulec: thanks i actually got it working following ubuntuguide18:57
szakulecokay18:57
rainhow to teplace kmenu logo?18:57
fkeazSelected video codec: [indeo5ds] vfm: dshow (Intel Indeo 5)18:58
Cannoli!avi18:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:58
rainhow to teplace kmenu logo?18:58
fkeazszakulec: thats about all i know about the vid, its beautiful other than that18:58
szakulecokay- you would definitely need the win32-codec package for Indeo 4 and 518:59
Cannoliwht would u guys say is the best avi/video player for kubuntu?18:59
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rainhow to teplace kmenu logo?19:00
killermachDr_willis:  kubuntu-restricted-extras was great info, do you know how I can get beryl installed? it's not in synaptic list19:01
Dr_williskillermach,  beryl is dead.19:02
Dr_willisits compiz-fusion now19:02
Dr_willis!compiz19:02
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:02
fannagoganna!compiz19:02
Dr_willisand i suggest NOT messing with compiz :)19:02
Dr_willisat leat not untill ya get the rest of the ssytem going.19:02
killermachDr_willis: cool. thanks19:02
Cannoliwht would u guys say is the best avi/video player for kubuntu?19:02
titanix88snarkster: go to /yourhome/.kde/Autostart19:02
titanix88snarkster: create a new text file e.g. "ndis.sh"19:03
titanix88snarkster: open it.19:03
Dr_willisactually installing Ubuntu-desktop may eneable a lot of the compiz stuff19:03
newuserI like the mozilla firefox browser but it doesn't work well... I can't get the sound and video on a web page... can anyone help me19:03
Dr_willisCannoli,  depends on what/how/type of video i am playing.19:03
Dr_willisnewuser,  depends on the site and the kind of video19:03
Dr_willis!flash19:03
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash19:03
Cannoliuh avi video, encoded with divx19:03
snarksternewuser install the jre1.4-mozilla plugin19:03
Dr_willisthe stage6 web site works wth me. I installed some of the mozilla plugins i belive19:03
titanix88snarkster: write these lines:"!#/bin/bash"19:04
newusersnarkster,,,, how do I do that through the terminal?19:04
newuserbrb  min19:04
snarksternewuser: hold on a sec Ill get the package name for you19:04
titanix88snarkster: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"19:05
titanix88snarkster: save it.19:05
Dr_willisstage6 is down again.. gesh19:05
Dr_williswell good luck.. bbl19:05
titanix88snarkster: make it executable.19:05
titanix88snarkster: done :)19:05
snarkstercool19:05
snarksternewuser: apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin19:07
snarksternewuser: make sure you agree to the license or itll fail19:07
Xcelldeuryte19:09
Don_jr333my install appears to be stuck.  It's been asking me to put the CD in and it's already there19:10
Don_jr333so I just press enter and it moves on19:10
Don_jr333now it says [99%] Working...  and then asks me for the cd again, over and over19:10
killermachDr_willis: does this mean fire/burn feature is gone? or is in comp-fusion?19:10
XcellDon_jr333: Go to /add/remove/edit software sources/third party software/uncheck )cd).19:12
Don_jr333I an't get into that just yet.  I don't have xorg yet, it's console only, in the midst of installing kubuntu-desktop19:12
Xcellk19:12
Don_jr333at 99% and appears it's not going to go any farther19:12
Don_jr333how bad will it be goofed if I restart?19:13
XcellAre you just now installing kubuntu?19:13
Don_jr333yes19:13
Don_jr333well19:13
Xcelllet go19:13
Don_jr333I installed the ubuntu server 7.1019:13
Don_jr333and installing the kubuntu desktop environment into it19:14
Xcellah  I dont know/ never used it.19:14
Don_jr333well, here goes for hopeing, I'll start over and edit my sources next time if it's too goofed19:14
snarksterthank you for your help19:14
killermachis there a comp-fusion channel?19:14
pastuliowhats a good program similar to photoshop for kde/linux in general?19:15
szakulecwhat aspect of Photoshop do you need?19:15
pastuliogeneral editing19:16
szakulecYou could try Krita19:17
szakulecit's not meant to be a Photoshop replacement in any fashion though19:18
szakulecif you deal with a lot of photos, definitely look into Digikam19:19
jussi01pastulio: the gimp?19:19
jussi01!info gimp19:19
ubotugimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 3800 kB, installed size 10476 kB19:20
jussi01!compiz | killermach19:20
ubotukillermach: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:20
makavelihow do i setup LAMP19:21
jussi01!lamp | makaveli19:21
ubotumakaveli: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:21
makavelithank u19:21
jussi01:D19:21
BluesKaj!cpufrequtils19:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cpufrequtils - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:25
jussi01!info cpufrequtils19:25
ubotucpufrequtils: utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature. In component universe, is optional. Version 002-5 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 204 kB19:25
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jussi01BluesKaj: I assume thats what you were looking for?19:25
BluesKajyup jussi01 , thx19:26
jussi01:D19:26
DexterFhi19:26
BluesKajI installed the utils but it doesn't launch19:26
DexterFsound issue: no sound from any app. mixer is not muted, only one card in here, worked fine the other day. dmesg shows nothing suspicious. pointers?19:27
szakulecin kmix, try unchecking the option Restore volume settings at login19:27
szakulecthat fixed my sound issue for me19:28
jussi01!sound19:28
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:28
adamonline45Can I make Amarok automatically sort tracks by track number?19:28
DexterFszakulec: was it upsdated? has been working for month, that is since I installed 7.0419:28
DexterFjussi01: there's no way I'm gonna use that POS aRts again19:28
DexterFever19:29
DexterFbut ill look at the other two19:29
szakulecnot that I know of19:29
WaltzingAlonggreetings19:38
EiccaI didn't read it well enough, so can someone say again; How can I disable the thing that opens the same windows on bootup that I had opened when I closed my computer?19:38
WaltzingAlong!ipod19:40
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod19:40
NickPrestaEicca, you have to disable session management19:42
NickPrestaEicca, when you login, select a KDE session, not the last KDE session.19:43
newuserok Im back from the store19:45
newuserthe wife made me get some flour19:46
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EiccaNickPresta: if I do it once, does it work every time?19:46
newuser I have a could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com error19:46
newuserwhen updating19:47
NickPrestaEicca, it should. It should select the last session as the default so if you have a fresh new session, that should be your default.19:47
Eiccaallright19:47
Eiccabrb I'll test19:47
newuserwow, there are a lot of errors.......  HAHAHAHA  need to install my network....19:47
Eiccahmm didnt work19:47
Eiccanew try ->19:48
NickPrestaEicca, go into System Settings > Advanced Tab > Session Manager > On Login Start with an empty session19:49
EiccaThe options are: "Default" "KDE (previous)" and "Failsafe" I switched it from Default to KDE.d..19:49
NickPrestaI forgot that was a setting you had to have :)19:49
Eiccaokay19:49
EiccaNickPresta: and do you know how to disable the process bar from the first kubuntu splash screen and modify the KDE splash screen? =)19:50
NickPrestaEicca, you mean the screen that says Kubuntu on the top and has that progress bar under it?19:50
Eiccaexactly19:51
EiccaNickPresta: do you know how to help?19:53
mykafter a recent update, i have to connect to m wireless network twice before it "sticks" using knetworkmangaer. The first time, it connects, then drops a few seconds later. The second time, it stays connected. Anyone else experience this?19:53
exposcusate ho un problema con i driver Ati, la mia scheda video non è supportata e i restricted driver mi creano vari crash. C'è qualcuno che mi può aiutare? Ho già chiesto aiuto sul FOrum di ubuntu ma nessuna soluzione...19:53
Dragnslcr!it | expo19:54
ubotuexpo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:54
expoOk thanks19:54
NickPrestaEicca, if I recall correctly, that is a boot option. You have to go into your menu.lst file and remove the options found in the 'defoptions' variable. You should change it from "defoptions=quiet splash" to "defoptions=" (sans quotes)19:56
NickPrestaEicca, then, run "sudo update-grub"19:57
sigmaare the kubuntu tutorials suitable for beginners?19:57
NickPrestasigma, which tutorials?19:57
mykanyone able to assist me with the knetworkmanager issue?19:57
EiccaNickPresta: I found this splashy program, I think I'll give it a try.19:58
sigmanickpresta: the ones on kubuntututorialsday?19:58
sigmamyk: whats the issue?19:58
mykthanks. After a recent update, i must connect to my wifi twice before the connection "sticks"19:58
myki removed the config file and tried again, same results19:58
myknot a big deal, but slightly annoying having to connect again after i open firefo19:59
sigmahmm, have you tried a app called kwifimanager myk?20:00
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myknot lately. to be honest, knetworkmanager worked fine until the update20:00
Eiccawhat was the "sudo" for graphical programs?20:01
Eicca!sudo kde20:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudo kde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:01
mykdoens kwifimanager work okay with ndiswrapper? got a broadcom chipset20:01
Eicca!kde su20:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde su - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:01
sigmamyk: it doesnt work 2well with ndiswrapper chips20:01
martijn81when i click an irc link in konqueror it starts kopete. How do i change this into konversation?20:02
mykhmmm. I may go back to using Wicd.. That is what i used in the previous Kubuntu release20:02
Eiccawhat was the "sudo" for graphical programs?20:02
mykEicca: kdesu or kdesudo20:02
sigmamyk: whats wicd?20:02
martijn81Eicca: kdesu20:02
mykhttp://wicd.sourceforge.net/20:03
mykit was used by many in the previous *buntu because networkmanager was buggy20:03
sigmamyk: network manager is still rather hopeless on the wireless side20:03
mykprobably right.. Guess i will add the wicd repository again. I was hopeful, because networkmanager worked for the first time for me this release.. Then they borke it :(20:04
mykumm.. broke20:04
alessiohello20:04
sigmaanyone have some synce tutorials for kde? i have a htc s310 windows mobile 5 smartphone20:04
sigmahi allessio20:05
BluesKajthe cpufrequtils wasn't working properly ...had my pc pinned at 1Ghz even while transcoding video and the resultiing xml file was very jerky with a lot of dropped frames20:05
sigmamyk: i found that when using ndiswrapper theres no alternative than using knetwork manager20:05
mykWicd is good, used it for over a year20:06
Eicca!splashscreen20:06
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.20:06
Eicca!splash screen20:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:06
BluesKajso anyone who wants author or recode files for dvd on amd64 kubuntu , follow this tutorial if the ondemand setting in cpufrequtils isn't doing it's job : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils20:08
eVipereAlright, question....   recent upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy via the package manager, and compiz freaked out (go figure)...  Anyway, I need compiz installed on KDE, what packages does someone suggest I get?20:09
BluesKaj!compiz20:10
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:10
eVipereHmm, not shipping by default eh?20:10
Don_jr333can kubuntu be configured to read korean text in text editor without chaning entire global language to korean?20:14
greeghi gang.20:14
greegim looking for a yahoo messanger client20:14
Xcellpidgin or kopete.20:15
greegi have gaim20:15
sigmadon: you may want to google that20:16
greegbut when i open it, it automatically signs on my AOL screen name.20:16
XcellThat should do it20:16
greegor AIM screen name rather.20:16
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sigmagreeg: find the config files in your home folder for that program and delete them, that way u can re-create your profile20:17
pastulioi want to habeeb20:17
XcellHow you doing today sigma.20:17
sub[t]rnlgreets20:17
sigmalol very good20:17
Xcellgreets20:17
* sub[t]rnl sips coffee20:18
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BluesKajgreeg , either pidgin or kopete , i can't recall which does yahoo messenger20:18
XcellWhats in the coffee.20:18
sigmasub[t]rnl: i finally found a solution for my video conversion, to use kvideoencoder, works like a dream20:18
Xcellnice20:18
sub[t]rnlsigma: bangarang20:18
sigmalol20:18
sigmaso can anyone tell me if those kubuntu-tutorial-day tutorials are suitable for beginners?20:19
greegE: Couldn't find package pidgin  i ran apt-get update too20:19
Xcellgreeg: you cant use both..uninstall gaim first/ then install pidgin20:20
stdinsigma: they will, but there are some links on the wiki page that you can read to get a head start20:20
sigmaok because i dont know anything when it comes to programming, always willing to learn20:21
xakahas WEB resource for searching packages?20:21
stdinsigma: the only "programming" part is the PyKDE4 session20:21
sigmaxaka: packages.ubuntu.com?20:21
sigmastdin: so whats all the other sessions about?20:22
sigmanever mind i see, looks interesting, always wanted to know how to make a deb file20:22
Don_jr333Can any tell me how to get korean text to show up in a text editor without changing global language to korean?20:22
jpatricksigma: my packaging talk will be very basics on packagin20:23
stdinsigma: helping with bugs, using revision control, packaging, getting your package into kubuntu and Q&A20:23
sigmajpatrick: how complicated can making a package get?20:23
jpatricksigma: apart from policy, copyrights, and some other stuff, easy when you know how to do it20:24
stdinsigma: it can be complicated :p but generally it's quite simple (once you grasp the concepts)20:24
jpatricksigma: but it takes time20:24
stdinthe packaging guide (linked to on the wiki page) is a great start20:25
sigmail take a look, you know there ought to be a help.kubuntu.com website20:26
sigmai also have noticed that the ubuntuforums site is plugged into google whilst the kubuntuforums site is not20:26
greegthe web site to download pidgin only offers for fedora, CentOS / RHEL, and windows?20:27
jpatricksigma: funny, we don't even have caniconal hosting..20:27
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EiccaHow can I time the shut down to some specify time? (Like shut down at 8.00.)20:28
sigmajpatrick: don't they fund the kubuntu project?20:28
BluesKajgreeg, it's in the repos20:28
jpatricksigma: the forums don't have hosting from Caniconal tho20:28
stdinEicca: set it as a cron job20:29
stdin!cron20:29
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm20:29
sigmajpatrick: so then who pays for the hosting?20:29
Eiccaokay thanks20:29
jpatricksigma: the guy in charge20:30
Eiccastdin: and what is the command to shut down the computer?20:30
stdinEicca: "shutdown" :)20:31
greegE: Couldn't find package pidgin20:31
greegi ran apt-get update20:31
sigmajpatrick: jonathan riddell?20:31
Eiccastdin: and where is my crontab file? =)20:31
greegcan someone just give me the line i need in sources.list ?20:31
Eiccastdin: and where is my crontab file? =) quickly :D20:32
BluesKajgreeg, did you check in adept20:32
greegyes.20:32
stdinEicca: rather than editing the file by hand, use the kcron gui, you will want to edit it as root (to edit roots crontab) so use "kdesu kcron"20:32
greegBluesKaj: nothing20:32
Eiccaokay20:33
kiizhelp :'( .kubuntu has a graphics problem at boot.i am use a intel intergrated graphics.pease how can i solve this20:33
jpatricksigma: nop, someone else, he's a nice guy20:33
Don_jr333Is it possible to show krean text in a text editor without changing teh global language to korean?20:33
Xcellgreeg what version are you on fiesty?20:33
Eiccagood night and thanks alot stdin20:34
Migshello, once again20:34
Migsnot kubuntu related, but does anyone know of a free or open source unix aware editor that works in windows?20:34
BluesKajyou can edit the sources.list directly in kate or adept, alt+F2  ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list , but i recommend source-o-matic20:34
BluesKaj!source-o-matic20:35
Migsbut I don't have kubuntu installed anymore20:35
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic20:35
stdinMigs: probably better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic20:35
Migsokay, will do. thanks20:36
BluesKajgreeg, did you get that ?20:36
sigmajpatrick: do any of you guys get paid by canonical for developing?20:36
* pastulio eats migs20:36
Dodger73hi all... i'm having major issues with fglrx - i had it running in gutsy, but had to reinstall because my / partition was getting a little tight on space - and now if i enable fglrx, all i get is a black screen20:36
Dodger73scarily enough, kde still starts20:37
MigsAm I tasty?20:37
Dodger73but X doesn't display anything20:37
pastulioyess :320:37
Dodger73and the monitor goes to powersave20:37
BluesKajsigma, we get free coffe once in a while :)20:37
jpatricksigma: nop, I don't mind, I like developing Kubuntu in my free time20:37
jpatricksigma: riddell does tho20:37
sigmajpatrick: yup i see canonical is more geared towards developing ubuntu20:38
stdinsigma: it's their "flagship" product20:38
emilsedghare the red hat liberation fonts in ubuntu repos ?20:39
emilsedghi cannot find any package for them20:39
Flare183Flare183 is at Walmart20:40
jpatrick!away > Flare18320:40
deuryteflabuntoo  gutsy  rocks...20:41
BluesKajwho cares :)20:41
Xcellyay20:41
* Flare183 says sorry konversation done it20:41
Migsflabuntoo short for flambouyant Ubuntu?20:41
mrmondaywhat is the command to open the preffered applications dialog box?20:41
BluesKajflab maybe20:41
sigmayup i noticed that, its always surprising to see that whenever ubuntu releases a new version the icon theme completely changes, its like a whole new operating system20:42
deurytekabuntu @ fta6420:42
deurytefat64*20:42
greegXcell im on the version prior to feisty20:42
BluesKajedgy20:42
greegyea20:42
kiizdoes any one how to solve a display problem on intel 845gl interated gpu .kubuntu does not display right.20:42
Xcellah  I never used dapper..sorry20:42
deurytedyaper dawn...20:42
emilsedghmrmonday: kcmshell defaultapplication20:43
XcellDeu: did you get kppp working?20:43
deuryte5420:43
XcellNice  good job20:43
BluesKajgreeg, did you check out source-o-matic ?20:43
deurytejust now got to putting info on thumb drive...20:43
emilsedghXcell: whats the problem whith kppp? i always use it...20:43
deuryteim still on flooboontoo20:44
Xcellemilsedgh:  We just put a fresh kubuntu on deutryts comp last nite and he went home to dialup and could not hook up.20:44
emilsedghXcell: whats the problem, exactly? whats the error?20:44
XcellDeu ryte there ya go talk to emilsedgh.20:45
emilsedghdeuryte: i always use kppp, could i ask what was the error? maybe i could help you...20:45
deurytewell, here goes... it querries and finds the serial modem, but when i go to dial up, it hans up in the "intializing modem" stae, then after a min.   it drops out.20:46
greegBluesKaj: is that a text editor ?20:46
emilsedghaah yes20:46
emilsedghthis is a very common problem20:46
greegBluesKaj: well there's nothing in the repos20:47
deuryteit doesnt even obtain a dial tone.....20:47
BluesKaj!source-o-matic20:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic20:47
emilsedghdeuryte: i did have this problem too, but i do not remember how it solved, but search i google, im sure you will get result.20:47
emilsedghdeuryte: if you didnt, use pppconfig and pon from commandline, they are so easy to use20:47
Xcellemilsedgh: Would a firewall confged for high speed stop that?20:48
emilsedghXcell: no20:49
Xcellk20:49
deuryteok, had to step out for a sec.  yes, i am currently googling and downloading all the info i can get and putting it on a thumb drive...20:51
sigmaoh does anyone know how far south africa is behind or ahead of the umt time that the tutorials will be held?20:51
stdinsigma: use www.timeanddate.com to find out20:52
sigmathanks20:55
crackhead_25__anyone know, how do you do something like a chkdisk operation on a linux formatted hd? i keep getting input/output errors, and i can't make new directories in this partition, and i think there is something funky going on.. anyone knwo how to fix it??20:56
stdin!fsck | crackhead_25__20:56
ubotucrackhead_25__: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot20:56
greegi looked at source-o-matic and ran apt-get update.  now it's on --> reading package lists... 93% for the past few minits. and i can hear my hard drive click'n away.  whats taking so long?20:58
greegoh dear.  ctrl-C isnt even killing it.20:58
crackhead_25__hm.. you think that will fix it, ubotu?20:59
crackhead_25__stdin: you think fsck will fix it?20:59
sigmastdin: um according to that website umt doesn't exist, sure its not supposed to be utc?20:59
stdincrackhead_25__: fsck will fix what it can20:59
stdinsigma: it does say utc21:00
greegi just closed the terminal. and now it is still listed under ps aux?21:01
greegwhats going on .21:01
greegkill -9 doesent do shit.21:01
greegconsidering kde crashed on me this morning, i must say, this linux shit is not the most reliable.21:02
stdingreeg: watch the language in here21:02
sigmaalrighty im 2 hours ahead21:02
velho_hello21:03
Lynourevelho_: anything you need help with?21:03
alakhiagreeg: i used to have problems with things crashing only to find out the root was hardware problems21:04
* genii puts on a pot of coffee21:05
alakhiagreeg: first the cpu was overheating, so i got it out of the cabinet21:05
alakhiaoh well21:05
crackhead_25__stdin: it doesn't seem tow ork.. i think i need to see which partitions are on that drive.. do you know what program works best for seeing, editing, creating, and deleting partitions ther??21:06
velho_Lynoure: yes!21:06
alakhiabazhang: got gmail calendar to sync with kontact ... but had to make my calendar public :(21:06
velho_my openoffice is not working well in kde21:06
velho_icons are missing21:06
velho_anyone can help?21:07
alakhiabazhang: i thought that since it was asking for my google password, it could access everything without making things public21:07
stdincrackhead_25__: you can use "sudo fdisk -l" to see all the partitions, if you want to edit them then use qtparted21:07
alakhiavelho_: did it ever work?21:08
Lynourevelho_: hmm, I think I have heard that one before, but I cannot remember the details. Icons inside the openoffice apps or icons for them? Stardard iconset, or something you switched to yourself? Does  oowriter  and such still start them?21:08
velho_standard iconset21:09
velho_and programs are ok21:09
velho_to use21:09
velho_but i only see text when i should see icons...21:09
LynoureInside the oo apps, that is?21:10
velho_and openoffice used to work well21:10
sigmawill synce ever work in kde with windows mobile 5 - and syncekonnector?21:10
velho_Lynoure: exactly21:10
Lynourevelho_: do you have package  openoffice.org-style-default  installed?21:11
Don_jr333I'm needing to find a Java GUI that runs under linux that can show korean text without changing the global text to korean.21:11
Lynourevelho_: if not, you could try installing it and restarting the apps.21:12
crackhead_25__stdin: can only one part of a drive partition be "active' at any given time? i have a drive with two partitions and in one partition there is a subdivision i.e. two partitions.. one of the main partitions is ntfs, the other linux.. then within the linux, two ext3 partitions.. right now the ntfs is active, it seems.. and it asks me if i want to make the linux two partitions active.. will that make the ntfs unreadable?21:12
LynoureDon_jr333: Java GUI for what?21:13
sub[t]rnl!apache221:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:13
sub[t]rnl!apache21:13
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)21:13
Don_jr333for programming in java...21:13
LynoureDon_jr333: ah, Java IDE.21:13
Don_jr333Lynoure oh yeah, IDE not GUI...sorry I"m a dope21:13
Don_jr333tired21:13
stdincrackhead_25__: I don't think that matters at all21:13
Don_jr333Yeah, i've got eclipse, but it won't show the korean text....it won't even open the file21:14
Don_jr333not sure what else to try.  Korean text shows in MSN names, web pages, file names, but not IN the file anywhere21:14
velho_Lynoure: i don't have openoffice.org-style-default. i will install it and then i will report if everything is ok21:14
eshathi all ,... i just installed compiz-kde ,.,.. where do i activate it21:14
sub[t]rnlthe window decorator? or compiz?21:15
Dodger73so, i've found a curious error in my xorg.log that points to why fglrx is not working for me (black screen, although X starts fine without displaying anything)21:15
Dodger73(EE) fglrx(0): === [swlDalHelperAddCustomizeMode] === CWDDEDI_DisplayGetSetModeTimingOverride failed: 721:16
eshatcomiz21:16
stdineshat: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion21:16
Dodger73about 15 times21:16
sub[t]rnlcompiz --replace21:16
Dodger73anybody seen this before?21:16
geniimake sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed before you compiz --replace21:16
crackhead_25__stdin: thing is, i just noticed the two inactive partitions are not being mounted/loaded in konquerer.. i can't see them or write to them at the moment..21:16
criscrackerkhggu21:17
criscrackeraaaaaa21:17
LynoureDon_jr333: hmm, unfortunately I don't know which ides support unicode files (I naively assumed most, until now)21:17
jarleWhen I first plugged my wireless D-Link adapter into my kubuntu laptop, right clicking the knetworkmanager icon would list all available wireless network, however after running manual configuration, no wireless networks are displayed anymore?21:17
sub[t]rnleshat: if ccsm doesn't bring up the settings manager, install the package genii mentioned21:17
criscrackeryirfñiyhgfñyfñ21:18
smookerhi ppls :)21:18
firecrotchhello, smooker21:18
stdincrackhead_25__: that's nothing to do with it, if you want them to be mounted then you need  to add a line for them to /etc/fstab. you can use System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems  to do that21:18
criscrackerhola smooker21:18
stdincriscracker: what are you doing that for?21:18
smookersomething new around kubuntu ? :P21:18
criscracker???21:19
stdin"[21:18]  <criscracker> yirfñiyhgfñyfñ" < that21:19
criscrackerno hablo ingles21:19
stdin!es21:19
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:19
Lynourevelho_: how did it go?21:20
gnI want to use teamspeak and would like to give it it's own soundcard to get around oss problems - how would I set this? I have two soundcards and would like it to use the non-default one21:21
mmschneihello, I am trying to use gnome's sound-juicer to rip some CD's to MP3's but I cannot seem to get the MP3 formats to come up as a selection to use. I currently can only use FLAC. I am able to edit their properties and they are checked as "active" but I am unable to select them. Anyone have any ideas why?  LAME is installed21:22
velho_Lynoure: my internet connection is very slow... i'm downloading the packages as he speak21:23
criscrackerea21:23
newuserijust had a fresh install of ubuntu and kde and everything looks as it should but still no web video or sound    can someone help me21:24
newuserim using 7.1021:24
newuserthis is getting quite frustrated and close to reinstalling windows... can someone please help me21:25
BluesKajnewuser, what browser ?21:26
wolverinebonsoir a tous21:27
newuseri like firefox21:27
BluesKaj!fr | wolverine21:27
wolverineyes21:27
wolverinei'm french21:27
ubotuwolverine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.21:27
wolverinedo you speak french ?21:27
wolverinethinks21:27
newuserbluesKaj can you help me21:27
eshatis there a differnece between klogd and sysklogd ???21:28
wolverinebye good-evening21:28
stdineshat: klogd is the kernel logger, syslogd is the system logger21:28
eshatstdin: ahh thanks21:28
BluesKajnewuser , open adept and install flashplugin-nonfree and the latest java version listed ..also libxine1-ffmpeg , w32codecs and libdvdcss221:29
eshati just configured my FN notebook hotkeys, but if I mute volume or increase/decrease sound i don't see this little windows with the volume bar,... any ideas ?21:29
stdinw32codecs and libdvdcss2 will not be in adept21:30
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dmcgloneHi all21:30
kiizplease will some one explain the dependencies stated in packages.ubuntu.com.i am new to all this21:30
Xcelldmcglone: Howdy.21:30
dmcglonewhats up X. I got banned friday for that little stunt I pulled. :-)21:31
Xcelllol  saw that21:31
newuserwow that was like a lot of greek to me.... I get the flashpart and maybe the java through synaptic but the also I dont think i understand21:31
eshati just configured my FN notebook hotkeys, but if I mute volume or increase/decrease sound i don't see this little windows with the volume bar,... any ideas ?21:32
XcellWe all chuckled about it21:32
dmcgloneLOL21:32
WalkbossCan someone please assist me with some iptables madness?21:32
kiizi don't have an internet connection and have to download packges manually21:32
BluesKajoh yeah , sorry newuser , you'll have to open adept/manage repositories and X in all the boxes on the kubuntu software tab and the thirdparty software tab21:32
sub[t]rnlWalkboss: whats your problem?21:33
eshatwhere can i add kmix to autostart ?21:33
fignewnewuser: let's first see if your sound works... open up konsole and type in cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp21:33
sub[t]rnl!autostart | eshat21:33
ubotueshat: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.21:33
newuserok ill give it a try21:33
Walkbosssub, can you tell me how to do that "User: message" thing?21:34
eshatsub[t]rnl: thanks21:34
fignewnewuser: BTW, press ctrl + c to end the test21:34
scrash08In kmail, where do I set the *default* attachment forwarding to be "inline"? The *option* is there, but the default currently is "as attachment".  Googl'ing I find scads of arguments back and forth, but haven't found the answer yet ...21:35
kiizplease will some one explain the dependencies stated in packages.ubuntu.com.i am new to all this.i don't have an internet connection and have to download packges manually21:36
crimsunkiiz: see also the 'aptoncd' package.21:36
WalkbossI guess I'll go ahead then...21:39
velhonewuser: did it went well?21:39
WalkbossI need to drop RST packets sent from Comcast. I have a list of the iptables rules that are supposed to do that, but they haven't remedied the problem21:39
WalkbossI assume I didn't implement them correctly21:39
crimsun...21:40
crimsunI really hope you're joking.21:40
WalkbossI?21:40
crimsunWalkboss: yes.21:40
WalkbossNo sir21:40
WalkbossIf I'm mistaken, please let me know21:40
WalkbossI want to the bottom of this21:40
firecrotchWalkboss:  I'm assuming you're trying to prevent Comcast's throttling?21:40
WalkbossYep21:41
kiizcrimsun: thanks.but do i have to download all files listed under its dependencies21:41
eshatmy function keys work but i see no volume bar when changing volume ,... please help me21:41
firecrotchwell, it will only work if you AND everyone else is dropping the RST packers21:41
firecrotch*packets21:41
crimsunWalkboss: you're -on- Comcast.  If you drop RSTs from Comcast, you'll break yourself.21:41
firecrotchotherwise they'll still get them and the connection will be dropped21:41
WalkbossI know it has to be implemented both sides21:42
eshatHELP. i also have no menu entry for kcontrol ,... did i forget to install a package ???21:42
firecrotchWalkboss:  the better solution would be to switch to an ISP that doesn't throttle BT21:43
WalkbossI wish21:43
WalkbossIf that's the better solution, then I'll just have to not use BT21:44
eshatwhy is there no menu entry for kcontrol ?21:44
stdineshat: kubuntu uses system settings by default21:44
stdinyou can still start kcontrol via Alt-F221:45
stdinor add it to the menu21:45
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bEbeShoChKawhat do you want ?21:49
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* sub[t]rnl adds a tally to the chalk board21:50
bEbeShoChKaok baby {}21:50
sub[t]rnlbEbeShoChKa: #kubuntu-offtopic if you want to goof around21:50
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newusersorry    had to break for dinner    Im back and will do the test now.21:55
BluesKaj!restricted packages | newuser21:56
kiizdoes any one know of a package like aptoncd but works on windows21:56
BluesKaj!restricted-packages | newuser21:56
BluesKajbummer21:56
BluesKaj!info restricted-packages21:57
ubotuPackage restricted-packages does not exist in gutsy21:57
BluesKaj!media21:57
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs21:57
BluesKaj!codecs21:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:58
BluesKajaha21:58
newuserok    I did the test and I think it is looking for something that may not exist... I have a black term window and the white cursur no action21:58
killermachI need to create another user and  Administrator mode does not let me stay in administrator mode in System Settings->Users21:58
newuserfignew21:58
fignewdo you hear any sound?21:59
newuserno21:59
killermachanyone have some advice on that? fresh 7.10 install and I'm using the user I created on install21:59
fignewok, press ctrl+c21:59
BluesKaj!restricted formats | newuser21:59
ubotunewuser: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:59
fignewand run alsamixer21:59
fignewmake sure the channels are up21:59
BluesKajand unmuted22:00
BluesKajto umute use the M key22:00
BluesKajunmute22:00
Lynourevelho: I hope it worked for you... I'll need to get some sleep now. If it did not, feel free to message me about it, and I'll get back to you when I'm awake and at the computer22:00
Bawbatos simple issue, i thought however i have not been able to fix it. i have a wide screen lcd, display is 1680x1050. xorg cfgs for 1600x1200 which looks like crap. i edited the xorg.conf file and removed the everything res wise just putting in 1680x1050 however it is ignored and just comes up at 1600x120022:01
velhoLynoure: ok22:01
Bawbatosanyone have any pointers22:01
newuserhow do I "run" alsamixer22:01
velhoLynoure: yes its working22:01
velhoLynoure: thank you SO MUCH22:01
fignewnewuser: just type it in the konsole22:01
newuserok22:01
velhoLynoure: have a goodnight sleep22:02
velho;)22:02
newuseralsamixer22:02
BluesKajtype ' alsamixer ' in the terminal22:02
newusercommand not found22:02
Lynourevelho: That's nice to hear :)22:02
fignewgah, not installed by default22:02
newuserit is or it isn't installed by default\22:03
fignewnewuser: type in sudo apt-get install alsamixergui22:03
fignewit isn't22:03
newusergotta take the damn dog out to relieve...  ok ill do that first then take him out'22:03
BluesKajsudo apt-get install alsamixer22:03
BluesKajok too many i cooks here . I'll back off22:04
newuserok its installed22:04
newuserI see unable to fetch some archives\22:05
DragnslcrAnyone know how well Creative's mp3 players work with Amarok (or Kubuntu in general)?22:05
fignewnewuser: ok22:05
fignewBluesKaj: hmm alsamixergui is an X11 app ;/22:06
newusercould not resolve    us.archive.ubuntu.com22:06
fignewnewuser: do you see the speaker icon in the bottom right taskbar22:06
newusernoi22:06
newuserno22:06
fignewis this a laptop?22:07
killermachI need to create new users on a fresh 7.10 install22:07
newuserthe network somehow got disconnected22:07
Don_jr333what is the command to search my file system for a specific phrase? grep?22:07
BluesKajalsamixer gui is gnome22:07
killermachbut when I click Administrator mode, it goes away,22:07
fignewnewuser: don't sweat the apt-get command, it never installed it, and I made a mistake, that isn't the right program to install22:08
BluesKajit will run on kde , I've used it22:08
dmcgloneHello22:08
dmcgloneI just found out i'm a troll22:08
Don_jr333oh goodness.  What is the all in 1 dev package that ubuntu offers?  I can't remember the name22:08
newuserok,,,  what now22:08
fignewBluesKaj: could you help out newuser I gotta get going22:08
BluesKajok, fignew22:08
newuserhi blue22:09
PriceChild!offtopic | dmcglone22:09
ubotudmcglone: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!22:09
stdinDon_jr333: you mean build-essential ?22:09
dmcgloneOh geeez now I get the 3rd from you.22:09
BluesKajnewuser, type alsamixer in the terminal22:09
sourcemakershould I use the "file" or "directory" format to store my contacts in kontact?22:10
Don_jr333stdin yes that's it, thank you22:10
dmcglonestdin, did I do anything? I think I got in trouble.22:10
newuserBluesKaj  i have to apt get it first\22:11
LjLdmcglone, nevermind. rather, do you have a kubuntu support question?22:11
stdindmcglone: this channel is kubuntu support only, no offtopic discussion22:11
dmcgloneLjL, I was going to help with questions22:11
LjLdmcglone: sure. good luck - keep it on topic.22:11
dmcgloneI was just saying Hi to everyone22:12
BluesKajok newuser, in the terminal : sudo apt-get install alsamixer22:12
newuserok it looks as it is installed... I saw it reading and deferred processing now taking place... ok Im ready to run it\22:12
newuserhow do I run it... I typed alsamixer in terminal and got no such file or directory22:13
Bawbatosi need the same order every time for a firewall22:13
Bawbatossorry. wrong window22:13
Don_jr333and how can I get this to stop asking for my CD when I use apt-get?22:13
newuserok I found it in the menu and it is loading22:13
dmcgloneDon, uncheck the CD in your sources list22:14
BluesKajnewuser, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply22:14
Don_jr333thank you dmcglone and how would I go about searching my system for a specific file/phrase22:15
newuserthe specified library arts could not be found22:15
killermachok. got an error from kdesudo about no arguments being supplied when I clicked Administrator mode in User Management,  this is a fresh 7.10 install I'm using the user created on install, anyone know how to fix this?22:15
sourcemakershould I use the "file" or "directory" format to store my contacts in kontact? When adding a new book, I can select between different types of formats? This format should I use?22:15
dmcgloneuse adept22:15
dmcglonein the sources menu I think22:15
Don_jr333adept will search for java in my system files and show me the files with java int their names?22:16
newuserThe diagnostics is:   libasound.so.2 cannot open shared objict file:no such file or directory22:16
dmcgloneit's under the menu adept/manage repositories22:16
dmcgloneoh yeah, just type java in the search bar22:17
newuserBluesKaj are you still with me22:17
BluesKajyup22:17
Don_jr333I'm not looking to search for installations, just any file in my system that has the word java in it's name22:17
dmcglonesudo find / -name java22:18
newuserThink you canhelp me figure this out22:18
Don_jr333thank you22:18
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BluesKajdid you follow my entry above newuser /22:18
BluesKaj?22:18
ThylioHow  can i change my  taskbar?22:18
dmcglonehow do you want it changedd Thylio?22:19
newuseryes, when I clicked on sound it takes me to a new open window   sound system-system settings         The specified library arts could not be found..   The diagnostics is:libasound.so.2 cannot open shared object file:No file or directory22:20
Thyliodmcglone: I want a log bar whit "two tasks" i the hight, on the top of my screen:p22:20
sourcemakershould I use the "file" or "directory" format to store my contacts in kontact? No answers here?22:21
dmcglonei'm lost thylio, can you rephrase that question?22:21
newuseralso it says   possible reasons    An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module            or       You have old third party modules lying around22:21
newuserDid you get that BluesKaj\\\22:21
LaserJockanybody know what the preferred source for KDE4 is for gutsy? PPA or -backports?22:22
BluesKajyes , newuser22:22
newuserwhat do you think22:22
BluesKajok, do you have synaptic pkg manager?22:23
newusery22:23
Thyliodmcglone: basicly i want a big taskbar at the top of my screen, not at the bottom. and i want k-meny, storage media/home folder, clock exc. at the bottom.22:23
newuserup and running\\22:24
dmcglonethylio, right click on kicker and go to add new pannel22:24
newuserpkg manager that is\22:24
dmcgloneadd what you want and then drag it to the top of the screen then arrange your stuff on it how you want22:25
BluesKajopen synaptic , edit/fix broken packages/apply if the "apply " is highlighted22:25
derduiHi22:25
Thyliodmcglone: Okay. thx22:25
newusernot highlighted22:25
Thyliodmcglone: how do i remove the taskbar from the kmenu bar?=s22:26
newuserThis is Killin me... I have gutsy 7.10 on my desktop and it really is the BEST!!!!   but I cant get it on my laptop as good....22:27
BluesKajnewuser , how did you upgrade to gutsy ?22:27
dmcgloneright click on the little bar on the very left side of it and choose remove22:27
newuserI used the iso and burned a disc\22:27
Thyliodmcglone: aaaah...   Thx!22:27
dmcgloneno prob.22:28
newuserIts fine on my desktop and it was good on my laptop yesterday but I had some unexplained and forgotten problems with it so I reformatted the laptop and reinstalled the disx today and all is good with the exception of the sound and web video]\22:29
dmcglone!register nick22:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about register nick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:30
BluesKajok, let's see if your soundcard is even listed in the hardware : cat /proc/asound/cards22:30
Don_jr333to register a nick /msg nickserv22:32
newusermy term icon is bouncing and now has dissappeared     the term window did not come up\22:32
dmcgloneall I get with that is a blank window22:32
dmcgloneI was reading the page above, I don't see anything about registering.22:33
newuserI CANT GET IN THE TERMINAL WINdow     and sorry for yelling\22:33
dmcglonenewuser, ctrl + alt + esc and see if one is already running and kill it.22:34
dmcglonethen try again22:34
BluesKajnewuser, write the command down cat /proc/asound/cards and type it after you logon the TTY , which we need to do to get the terminal back .. if you got the terminal back ignore this but if not, ctrl+alt+F222:36
newusernot able to start a term and I now have a blank black window]22:36
newusermy son and I have the exact same new toshiba satalite computers...  He has typed in his term and it was able to see the intel hardware.... we do have the same issues22:37
dmcglonewhat do I type in the blank window to register my nick?22:38
newuserok22:39
newuserI also have the hardware     Intel   HDA-intel22:39
LjL!register22:40
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration22:40
snarksterhi again, Im trying to watch a backup iso of a dvd i made.  But the image is all messed up.. I know the iso is good as I checked it on a different computer. Where would I find libdvdcss as it doesnt show up in the repo22:40
BluesKajnewuser, ok to get back to the desktop after running the command , ctrl+alt+F722:40
newuserok   but I do have a black background\22:41
BluesKaj!restricted formats | snarkster22:41
ubotusnarkster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:41
dmcglonethanks LjL22:41
newusershould I restart22:42
BluesKajyes22:42
zrhello, suppose I have two soundcards on my computer; both are recognized correctly, but the one I use is the second one (/dev/audio1). How do I set that card as the deafult22:42
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zr*default22:43
laurencehey, does anyone know how to use webcam in kopete?22:43
BluesKajzr, sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"22:43
zrBluesKaj: thanks, but what is the "22:44
zr"name of soundcard"22:44
zris it the device number?22:44
zroh, found out22:45
zrthanks22:45
BluesKajzr, vwhatever soundcard you want to use ...find the name with this command : cat /proc/asound/cards22:45
zrBluesKaj: works, thanks22:46
BluesKajyw :)22:46
newuserok I have restarted the laptop and I cant even get to the desktop... It looks like my password has changed somehow22:47
newuserI am at the desktop but cannot do anything that requires my password....    I cant connect to the internet\]\22:48
zrnewuser: sudo su22:48
newusermy terminal will not come up    I get the bouncy icon and then it quits\22:49
zrnewuser: what terminal would that be?22:50
Kite_DHbouncy icon :> how cute22:50
johnficcahi I have a problem with Konqueror I do like it but it gets stuck loading web pages sometimes and times out, then I have to hit the refreash button and hope it doesn't do it again...is there a way to fix this?22:50
sidermahy all22:50
trprzr: fyi sudo -s does the same thing .. not really certain if there is any reason to use one over the other22:50
sidermai have real problems installing mysql22:50
newuserthe only one I know of....   I used cntl alt f2 and am in the temp terminal22:50
sidermadoea anyone have time to help me22:50
newuserI now am signed in as root in the temp term22:50
siderma?22:50
zrtrpr: didn't know that, I always used sudo su22:50
BluesKajcan you open adept or synaptic , newuser?22:51
newuserill try22:51
newuserrequires password and I cant use my password   telling me wrong pass\22:51
newuserdoes the same for any funtion that requires a password22:52
newusernot true,,,,  IM IN THE SYNAPTIC MANAGER NOW22:52
ricaneliteanyone here is using KDE 4?22:52
newuserthere are no broken packages\22:53
newuserYes    I am in synaptic      what now???22:53
BluesKajok open  search and type konsole , reinstall if necessary22:53
johnficcaI am using Kubuntu 7.1022:53
johnficcahow do I turn off ipv622:54
johnficca?22:54
newuserok    reinstalling now';'22:54
stdin!ipv6 | johnficca22:54
ubotujohnficca: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv422:54
ricanelitei just installed Kubuntu but was reading about there is going to be a new KDE Destop coming out later this year. Which is it beta right now22:54
trprricanelite: i think the release was bumped into january22:55
ricaneliteoo ok22:55
ricanelitewhich anyways I have a question I'm trying to run Amarok but it runs very slow. I have a fast machine22:55
newuserok, , ,, ,, reinstalled and no change in the reaction of the terminal icon... Still bouncing and then stops without opening\22:56
posingaspopularricanelite: you can try reinstalling amarok22:57
posingaspopularthat might work22:57
BluesKaji think drastic measures are required newuser ... but i don't know how to help short of suggesting you do another clean install22:58
obsidiananybody have a problem with certain kde apps segfaulting, straight out of a clean install?22:59
newuserThats what i feared the most..... ok   thanks for all the help and time you guys put into it anyway/22:59
Bawbatoswhat is a good kde gui for iptables23:00
posingaspopularfirestarter Bawbatos23:00
Bawbatosthanks23:00
obsidianit's weird, everything is working very well23:00
Don_jr333How can I get korean text to show up in text editor without having to change my global language to korean?23:00
obsidianI just have the two things, kate, and software-properties-kde, segfault on every startup23:01
obsidiani've been looking at the stacktraces and there is no obvious cause23:01
BluesKajnewuser, someone else more knowledgeable may be able help you ...I'm just not well enuff informed yet23:01
zrsorry, what what the command to change default soundcard again?23:02
zr-what +was23:02
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BluesKajzr, sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"23:02
newuserwell I appreciate your time trying anyway thx23:03
obsidianI tried rebuilding kdebase23:03
obsidiannow I am working on a rebuild of glibc23:03
zrBluesKaj: thanks again23:03
obsidianI guess I will have to debug this line by line23:03
obsidianI just can't believe I am getting a segfault from THE text editor on a clean install23:03
obsidianI take it it's just me?23:03
Don_jr333No one know's how to show korean text in a text editor on kubuntu?23:03
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Don_jr333how do I search my system files for a specific file name?23:07
brad__use "locate" to find files23:09
Don_jr333thank you brad_23:09
eVipereHey, anyone know where the option to change the window manager to emerald is at?23:10
brad__you can also use "which" if you are looking for an executable that is in your path23:11
lovedeatmfloppy:/u not recognixed...kubuntu says its not supported23:14
Dr_willisHmm.. i dont recall a floppy:/ kioslave.23:15
Dr_willisthen again -i have no floppy disks any more23:15
lovedeatmdr_willis, lol...well my comp still has the drive and if i type in floppy:/a i can get a normal floppy drive23:16
Dr_williswhere is this /a comming from ?23:16
Dr_willissystem:/media  should be showing it - would be my guess.23:17
Dr_willisOr mount the darn thing manually :)23:17
lovedeatmdr_willis, its the shortcut to acess your floppy drive system if you have mtools installed23:17
safewhat is the program I need to detect wireless signals in kubuntu?23:18
lovedeatmdr_willis, i using usb for my ipod which is already having its own issues....yeah23:18
lovedeatmsafe, wlan is what i use...it should already be installed under internet apps23:18
Don_jr333Everything I find says I should have korean lang/fonts installed by default with kubuntu, but they don't show up right for me...23:19
lovedeatmdr_willis, how do you munt manually? and by anychance what do you know of ipods?23:19
* Dr_willis uses hammers on ipods.23:20
Dr_willissudo mount /dev/whatever /media/THISDIRMUSTEXISTBEFORHAND -t filesystem23:20
posingaspopularsafe: knetworkmanager23:20
safeposingaspopular: the network card works ok but what do i use to see the wireless signals with?23:21
posingaspopularsafe: the program is called knetworkmanager23:22
safeok, thanks23:22
posingaspopularkmenu-> add/remove programs or you can do 'sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager' in a terminal23:22
posingaspopulari suggest the add/remove programs way23:22
lovedeatmdr_willis, k and try not to smash my ipod....23:22
safeposingaspopular: i have no network connection23:23
safenevermind23:24
safethanks23:24
posingaspopularnp23:27
Don_jr333I can get kde menu's to show in korean, but it won't show korean text in kate.....23:27
Don_jr333this is annoying23:27
posingaspopularDon_jr333: why dont you ask in the korean chan?23:27
blizzzekgn823:27
Don_jr333Cause I don't speak or read korean, I just need to be able to see the korean texts in a text editor or java compiler23:28
matttishi23:28
Don_jr333guess it can't hurt to see if anyone there speaks english, what's the channel?23:28
matttiskdm isnt starting, what can I do _23:28
Manadhi...just installed kunbutu. LOVE IT!23:28
firecrotchManad: welcome! great to hear!23:29
ManadI'm not shallow or anything, but a great presentation counts for a lot in a desktop OS.23:29
Don_jr333what's the korean channel for kubuntu kor?23:29
posingaspopularmatttis: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart23:30
brad__Don_jr333:  you have to use an input method app like skim23:30
posingaspopulari *think*23:30
Don_jr333brad__ I have skim, how do I use it?23:30
chashello23:30
Don_jr333I click the little icon down there nad it does nothing23:30
matttisposingaspopular: no, i would have to change some settings23:30
chasI've got an interesting problem23:31
Manadjust one question: I'm looking at KDE System Guard, and it says "104 processes"...am I really running 104 processes, or is that the total processes available on the computer?23:31
brad__i used this to set up japanse:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Japanese_Input_and_Fonts_in_Ubuntu_7.0423:31
brad__should be similar for korean23:31
Don_jr333thanks23:31
brad__this looks good also:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu23:32
Don_jr333great, I appriciate it. I've been digging and couldnt' find it23:32
zronce I installed compiz, where do I activate the desktop effects?23:33
Dr_willis!compiz23:33
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:33
mlanghi, how can i add windows on a striped raid drive to my grub menu? windows is on sda1 and sda223:33
zrthanks23:33
Dr_willisYou have to run compiz --replace and perhaps emerald --replacve i belive23:33
altghie all23:35
altgis there any body there ??23:36
ManadLet's say I wanted to have torrents running on my account, but other users need to use the computer. How do I let them login to their accounts without logging off myself?23:36
safei dont see any wi-fi networks in the manager even though my wi fi is on???23:36
chasshould be able to go to k menu and hit switch user23:36
altgyep, use switch user !!23:36
Manad"lock current and start new session" or "start new session"?23:37
chasthe former23:37
Manadthank you23:37
altgthink the first one, ask ur password to reconnect and the second not !?!23:37
altgdo u know if it's normal that adept don't ask any root pass in new 7.10 Gutsy ???23:39
pastorholas a todos23:41
pastoralguien habla español?23:42
posingaspopular!es23:42
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:42
pastorgracias23:43
Manadif I wanted to have a folder accessible by all users on the machine, where should I put it?23:49
oobeanywhere you just need to change the permissions23:50
oobe/usr/share would work23:50
ManadI know, but are there guidelines? Is it a bad idea to create a new root folder?23:50
Manadallright, that'll work23:50
Manadthanks23:50
altgdo u know if it's normal that adept don't ask any root pass in new 7.10 Gutsy ???23:53
obsidiananybody else getting segfaults on certain commands??23:53
oobealtg, there is no root password configured23:54
oobealtg, you can use sudo to set a root passwd23:54
altgfor my desktop i did an upgrade to gutsy and it's ok for the pass !!!23:55
Dragnslcraltg- it should, though I've noticed that kdesudo saves your password briefly, just like sudo23:55
altgbut for my laptop i just do a new install of gtsy23:55
DragnslcrSo if you opened something else that requires sudo a few minutes earlier, it may have had your access saved23:56
zr!compiz23:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:56
altgand during install, nowhere there is root pass asked23:57
altgno, i didn'n open any else that require sudo before23:57
altgjust fist time use kwallet to record my wifi wep key23:58
newuserOK OK I have finished reinstalling ubuntu 7.10 again and now I'm updadting the software that was initially detected by thesystem...   I', not 100% sure how to get the KDE installed on the system if someone could help me with that and keep your fingers crossed as to if I will have sound this time....  Also, there was a problem with the web video and of course sound when in ANY browser.... Installation is almost done... Any knowledgea23:58
oobebut *ubuntu doesnt ask for a root password during install it only asks you so make a user password23:58
newuserble people PLEASE get me through this install... Thanks...  ooo  it is configuring sound juicer right now...  :)23:58
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