[00:00] <Dr_willis> Text based console/cli/dos is the next big thing.
[00:00] <neville> Lol
[00:00] <Dr_willis> Saves on Power ussage. so its more 'green' for the planet.
[00:00] <Dr_willis> and GREEN CRT Serial terminal  will be comming out soon!
[00:00] <neville> Please stop it now
[00:00] <rignes> Actually, it seems to be finally sinking in at Micro$oft that the cli isn't so terrible.  I mean, their implementation is still crappy, but at least it's there.
[00:00] <neville> I'll be all laughed out
[00:01] <Dr_willis> 'floppy disks are more recycelable then usb drives'
[00:01] <neville> Hahaha
[00:01] <lounge> Exchange 2007 is CLI to even just change a mailbox limit :s
[00:01] <rignes> Don't get me started on that.  I wasted ages trying to figure out limits on Exchange 2007.
[00:02] <rignes> The trouble is there are a zillion places to change the limits, and if you miss just one it defaults to the lowest.
[00:02] <Dr_willis> that makes it more secure. :)
[00:02] <Dr_willis> who needs a variable set in just 1 place!
[00:03] <rignes> :P
[00:03] <lounge> yep, took me ages too to figure it, damm Micros~1
[00:04] <rignes> I applaud them for seeing the light that is the cli, but there are certain things that should be in a gui front end on a mail server.  And I'd think changing message size limits would be one of them.  I mean, it seems like a fairly common tweak..
[00:05] <penguin> i have a digital camera and when i upload the pics to my hdd it saves them with the .ppm file extenstion. what program can i use to convert these .ppm files to jpeg?
[00:05] <rignes> Anyway, enough microshaft talk for me here.  This is a Linux based channel after all. :D
[00:05] <penguin> !ppm
[00:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:05] <penguin> !.ppm
[00:05] <rignes> ppmtojpeg I think.
[00:06] <Dr_willis> What are you trying to learn penguin ?
[00:06] <Dr_willis> !find ppm
[00:06] <ubotu> Found: libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx, mrwtoppm, mrwtoppm-data, mrwtoppm-gimp, mrwtoppm-utils (and 2 others)
[00:06] <NickPresta> penguin, imagemagick has a nice utility called "convert"
[00:06] <rignes> Oh yeah, there is that too.
[00:06] <rignes> man convert
[00:06] <penguin> Dr_willis: im trying to convert .ppm inamges to jpeg images
[00:06] <penguin> NickPresta: is imagemagick available in the repos?
[00:07] <NickPresta> penguin, yep
[00:07] <Dr_willis> yep. :) thats proberly the best tool for doind a lot of them
[00:08] <mcrandello> I'm looking for information on putting a file in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe to ignore a device, anyone know if there's a guide anywhere on what I need to do to accomplish that?
[00:09] <mcrandello> google failed me and the "preferences.fdi" doesn't have any info on making it ignore the device
[00:10] <genii> Faceoff :)
[00:16] <Linux_Galore> I usually use gimp to change image file fromats myself
[00:16] <Linux_Galore> formats*
[00:20] <Zabulus> ok, i still need help, upgrading to gutsy didnt solve the problem
[00:21] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrad
[00:21] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[00:22] <Linux_Galore> after changing your sources file obviously
[00:22] <Zabulus> no...
[00:22] <adamonline45> Every time I open amarok it will seem to be loading, then the taskbar icon disappears and it doesn't start :(  What can I do?
[00:22] <Zabulus> didnt get the chance, my mouse froze up before i could do anything
[00:23] <Dr_willis> run it fron a ternubal and look for error messages
[00:23] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: you dont need a mouse
[00:23] <Zabulus> i know, just makes things easier
[00:23] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: login to t terminal no the desktop
[00:23] <Linux_Galore> not*
[00:24] <Zabulus> will that possibly stop my mouse from freezing up?
[00:24] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: or press ctrl alt F1 at the login screen
[00:24] <Dr_willis> this is a usb mouse?
[00:24] <Zabulus> yeah
[00:24] <michael_> I have a question about my flash drive:
[00:24] <Dr_willis> i would say to to the console and look at dmesg output - see if any messages are showingup about the mouse.  You can upgrade/edit the soruces totally from the console if need be
[00:25] <michael_> it used to come up when I plugged it in, and now I cant access it
[00:25] <michael_> it lights up, but no ones home
[00:25] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Dang, now it won't even do what it WAS doing (showing the bouncy icon and a spot in the taskbar).  I ran top and killed 2 amarok processes just before trying to run it from a terminal...
[00:26] <Linux_Galore> michael_: sound corrupted, have you tried it on another machine ?
[00:26] <michael_> yeah, my sound is currupted too  lol
[00:26] <Linux_Galore> michael_: that is what happens when you remove a SD card without unmounting is usually
[00:27] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: My Adept Notifier isn't responding either... Hmm...
[00:27] <Linux_Galore> it*
[00:27] <DrUnKnMuNkY1> hey everyone. my dsl connection seems to be dropping randomly about 5-6 times a day which is starting to get pretty annoying. does anyone know of any way to keep this from dropping?
[00:27] <NickPresta> adamonline45, I sometimes notice that behavior (amarok won't start) but only after X crashes and there is a zombie-like process left over. I have to `killall amarok*` and then it works just fine.
[00:27] <michael_> yes, in fact it was being 'borrowed, by another machine
[00:28] <michael_> working fine in that machine (using Windows)..... I bring it to mine and nothing
[00:28] <michael_> its a flash drive
[00:28] <adamonline45> NickPresta: I just typed that and it said 'no process killed'...
[00:29] <Linux_Galore> NickPresta: two suggestions, rename the amorokrc  file in /home/user-name/.kde/share/config  to amarokrc-old and see if it fixes
[00:30] <Linux_Galore> amarokrc  sorry
[00:30] <adamonline45> Linux_Galore: I just initiated a reboot, but if it's still happening (as it was with the LAST reboot) then I'll try that :)
[00:30] <Linux_Galore> or just reinstall amarok ie remove it then install it again
[00:31] <adamonline45> Linux_Galore: That's doable.  I've seen a few means of removing with aptitude; which syntax would you recommend I use?
[00:31] <Dr_willis> removing amarok will NOT clear out the users settings.. if those are the casuse of the problem
[00:32] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Noted, ty
[00:32] <michael_> can anyone help me with a sound issue?
[00:32] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: thats why I suggested renaming the amarokrc file first
[00:32] <Dr_willis> make a new user. see if it works for them. if so that shows that its a setting issue
[00:32] <Xcell> Is there a doctor in the house?
[00:33] <michael_> I get nothig but static
[00:33] <Zabulus> ok, now that im on my kubuntu, what commands should i run after upgrading to gutsy?
[00:33] <Linux_Galore> Dr_willis: could also be a sql db error in the amorok setup hmm seen that before
[00:33] <michael_> I can hear the sound in the 'background', but masked with heavy static
[00:34] <Linux_Galore> michael_: sound like you have mute on
[00:34] <michael_> I have SB Audigy 5.1
[00:34] <michael_> no
[00:34] <Linux_Galore> michael_: do you have on board sound ?
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Hmm that card should be very well supported
[00:34] <michael_> everyone I talk to so far are stumped
[00:34] <adamonline45> Linux_Galore: Dr_willis: Ahh, cool, a second reboot fixed it!
[00:34] <Dr_willis> You using the digital out?
[00:34] <Linux_Galore> michael_: ie on board and the and a sb card
[00:35] <michael_> yes, do you think they are conflicting?
[00:35] <Zabulus> can someone help me, my mouse keeps on freezing up, just upgraded to gutsy in hopes of abandoning the problem, but its followed me
[00:35] <Linux_Galore> michael_: no, whats happening is the machine is defaulting to your on board sound
[00:35] <Minataku> http://segakatana.com/images/hardware/dclp100/gdrom/test_ptn/pulse_s.bmp
[00:35] <ShawnRisk> I am not able to load the Monitor & Display module in the System Settings. Any ideas how to fix this?  USing Kubuntu.  the error message is: "the module Monitor & Display could not be loaded" and I searched google and got nowhere
[00:36] <michael_> I thought I disabled the onboard sound, but not willing to bet my life on it
[00:36] <Zabulus> go to your bios and check
[00:36] <Linux_Galore> michael_: oj type  asound list
[00:36] <michael_> I guess I will disable it in bios
[00:36] <michael_> oh ok
[00:37] <Linux_Galore> michael_: you will see two sound card/chipsets listed
[00:37] <michael_> btw - i'm a newbie
[00:37] <crackhead_25_> anyone have thoughts on ktorrent? i keep getting an input/output error reading from the cache of a file being downloaded.. fix?
[00:37] <adamonline45> oh btw ty guys
[00:37] <Linux_Galore> michael_:  now what we will do is tell the sound manager what we want to set as the default
[00:37] <Dr_willis> could remove the old data/cache
[00:37] <michael_> command not found
[00:37] <Zabulus> if anyone could help it would be greaty appreciated, mouse keeps on freezing up at random points, unplugging/replugging doesnt help, neither did upgrading to gutsy
[00:37] <nick_> for some reason konquer puts my tabs on the bottom instead of the top............... how do i fix this
[00:38] <crackhead_25_> Dr_willis: what do you mean? be more specific?
[00:38] <Linux_Galore> michael_:  sorry  asoundconf  list
[00:38] <michael_> ahh k
[00:38] <Dr_willis> ktorrent has a cache dir. delete the offending data. of course it could be some sort of disk issue going on
[00:38] <crackhead_25_> i deleted the data. it worked for a little bit, and then the same problem happened.
[00:38] <michael_> gives only Audigy
[00:38] <Linux_Galore> michael_: Im used to using autocomplete  ie type  asound [TAB] then list
[00:39] <mcrandello_> Zabulus: what video card you have?
[00:39] <Dr_willis> sounds like the driv4e may be having some issues.. or somthign really really weird with ktorrent
[00:39] <Zabulus> ...nvidia 7600gt, why?
[00:39] <adamonline45> Does anyone know how to make my taskbar items (KBluetooth, KNetworkManager, Power Manager, etc.) not be displayed as widgets on the desktop, but in the taskbar next to KMix and Klipper, etc.?
[00:39] <crackhead_25_> i can read and write to the drive through other means. i think the problem must be with ktorrent.
[00:39] <crackhead_25_> how can i fix it, though? what could it be?
[00:40] <mcrandello> Zabulus: if it were a usb mouse and an ati card on a laptop I might have known a fix for it, sorry
[00:40] <Zabulus> thats ok, i wont be surprised if i never find a fix, im about to abandon linux entirely
[00:40] <GrahamA> Zabulus: MAN OVERBOARD!
[00:40] <Zabulus> been dealing with this mouse problem for over 12 months now
[00:40] <michael_> Linux_Galore: since Audigy is the only one listed, does that mean that the on-board sound is disabled for sure?
[00:41] <GrahamA> Zabulus: Took me 2 years to get my wireless working.
[00:41] <Linux_Galore> michael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card>   not <card. is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list
[00:41] <lovedeatm> can anybody here help me with a printer issue....i already used the cups forum on ubuntu but it didnt tell me where to get it from
[00:41] <Zabulus> i gave up on wireless too, but i got around that
[00:41] <mcrandello> although some things to look out for are how many devices are sharing irq, in my case it was a wifi card, modem, video card and the usb bus, the usb was usually the thing that shut down first
[00:41] <Linux_Galore> now*
[00:41] <Zabulus> moved the modem, have internet wire to me, everyone else gets wireless
[00:41] <Zabulus> dont mind that, but not being able to use the mouse kinda su@#$
[00:41] <Linux_Galore> michael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list
[00:42] <GrahamA> Zabulus: What's your mouse issue?
[00:42] <Zabulus> mouse freezes up at random times after startup, the mouse works fine in win xp, so im thinking its some compatability issue
[00:42] <Zabulus> and no, unplugging and replugging does not help
[00:43] <michael_> Linux_Galore:             sudo: soundconf: command not found
[00:43] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: change your mouse configuration
[00:43] <mcrandello> that's what made me think irq issue, once my usb stopped it wouldn't restart without a boot
[00:43] <Linux_Galore> michael_:   asoundconf
[00:43] <michael_> k
[00:43] <Zabulus> to what?
[00:43] <lovedeatm> Zabulus, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts?
[00:44] <Zabulus> ummm, yeah, i have a thought, why are you asking me? im a linux newbie
[00:44] <Linux_Galore> Zabulus: usually you can select the default protocol in the setup
[00:44] <lovedeatm> lol...
[00:44] <Linux_Galore> ie ms /logi / ps2
[00:45] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts?
[00:45] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: you dont need drivers for a HP printer
[00:45] <michael_> Linux_Galore:       got the list
[00:45] <Zabulus> ok, am i looking in the right place? system settings/keyboard and mouse?
[00:46] <Dr_willis> id just manually edit the xorg.conf file. :) but im old-skool
[00:46] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: HP printers generally use the same setup within each family, you dont need a specific one for a specific model
[00:46] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, then i have a definete printer issue because i can't print and i dont under stand why. i have the printer connect to an lpt port
[00:46] <Dr_willis> id also install gpm for the console and see if the mouse works in the console
[00:47] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: hold on let me get the liunux-printing url they have a help databse telling what setup is advised
[00:47] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, ok thanks
[00:48] <Linux_Galore> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[00:48] <lovedeatm> k ill let you know if it worked
[00:48] <michael_> !pastebin
[00:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:48] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: or you can just google the printer ie use  www.google.com/linux
[00:49] <Dr_willis> cups.org has printer info also. :)
[00:49] <Zabulus> Linux_Galore: mouse configuration under system settings/keyboard and mouse or what?
[00:49] <michael_> Linux_Galore:      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47482/
[00:49] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: I havent hit a HP printer yet that doesnt work with cups (common unix print system) that comes standard with ubuntu
[00:50] <Dr_willis> well HP has a low end color laser. that i hear has.. some what lacking.. linux support.. B/W worked.. but color dident.  :(
[00:50] <Dr_willis> it may been fixed by now
[00:51] <Linux_Galore> I think HP have a opensource help site too for Linux
[00:51] <michael_> yeah, I bought the HP OJ Pro L7680 just when the printer hit the shelves, brought it home and the driver was aiting for me when I got back home
[00:52] <Linux_Galore> michael_:   your ignoring me
[00:52] <Zabulus> im amazed my mouse hasnt frozen up already, but im afraid to open up too many programs
[00:52] <Linux_Galore> michael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list
[00:52] <michael_> I sent you a link
[00:52] <michael_> see it?
[00:53] <Linux_Galore> michael_: yes it means you only typed asoundconf  without telling asoundconf what you want it to do
[00:53] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, so i went to the site and DLed the ppd jsut in case so how do i install..generlaly speaking
[00:53] <michael_> oh
[00:53] <Linux_Galore> michael_: lesseon 1, computers are idiots
[00:53] <Linux_Galore> lesson*
[00:53] <michael_> ahh
[00:53] <Dr_willis> the ppd may allredy be inclided in the repos. I do recall there being some ppd packages not isntalled by default
[00:54] <Linux_Galore> michael_: dont tell what to do they will ask questions
[00:54] <Linux_Galore> michael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list
[00:54] <michael_> sudo asoundconf set-default-Audigy
[00:54] <Zabulus> hey, where is the grub config file located?
[00:54] <Linux_Galore> michael_:   no -
[00:54] <Linux_Galore> michael_: just a space
[00:55] <n1x0r> got an evms question, I'll check #evms, but wanted to try here first... is it possible to have more than one volume per region
[00:55] <Zabulus> #grub
[00:55] <fredy> !mp3 | me
[00:55] <ubotu> me: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:55] <Zabulus> !grub
[00:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:56] <michael_> just a space between where?
[00:56] <michael_> Sorry. the computer AND me are stupid
[00:56] <michael_> lol
[00:57] <Linux_Galore> michael_:  between the command and the card
[00:57] <Zabulus> ok, well, found the grub config file, now, to make sure, is it safe to delete lines out of it?
[00:57] <michael_> ahh, got ya
[00:57] <michael_> ok did it
[00:59] <michael_> still have static
[00:59] <Linux_Galore> michael_: reboot then run alsamixer
[01:00] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, so thank you for your help...it worked...for some reason i don't have any print drivers installed (or i just can't acces them even as a root)...any thought on that
[01:00] <michael_> ok
[01:00] <blekos> hi,i had remote desktop enabled and run ktorrent after awhile i got a msg saying the remote user has closed the connection
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: do you have cups turned on ?
[01:01] <Zabulus> ok, can someone help me with the grub? when i started the update to gutsy from feisty, it added to lines to the grub menu, is it ok to delete the 2 lines for what im guessing is feisty?
[01:01] <blekos> is it possible for ktorrent to somehow interact with remote desktop?
[01:01] <martijn81> if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of package do i need then?
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: K -> System Settings   click on the advanced tab then click on services
[01:01] <northpunk> i have been using ubuntu for a week.. put kde desktop on today but my menu and bakground are still gnome (even the about gnome is tehre).. anyone know hoe wo completely remove gdm?
[01:02] <sub[t]rnl> !purekde
[01:02] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[01:02] <northpunk> private me so it doesnt' get mixed up in the rest of the chat
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: make sure cups is ticked to be started on boot and make sure it started if not start it
[01:02] <Dr_willis> You can configure/tweak grub all you want by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. BACKUP your original just in case. and its well worth reading the docs on grub at the grub homepage. to learn the ins and outs of grub
[01:03] <sub[t]rnl> Zabulus: ^^
[01:03] <Dr_willis> northpunk,  what menu and background are you refering to? You can easially change your desktop wallpaper.
[01:03] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, whers the tickER @
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: next to were it says cups
[01:04]  * flaccid_ pats his NAS
[01:04] <northpunk> when it starts up it showes the dubuntu blue desktop.. but then the dnome brown comes back (the gnome wallpapersr are in the list nothing else).. the top menu shows the ubuntu brown logo.. not the blue gears of kubuntu
[01:04] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, ok thanks
[01:04] <northpunk> and in the system where it has about ubuntu.. it has teh brown logo.. and has about gnome still
[01:04] <martijn81> if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of cd do i need then? powerpc or i386
[01:05] <MaTiAz> i386
[01:05] <northpunk> starts up as kubuntu fine.. but when it loads goes back to gnome (but i used apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop gdm)
[01:05] <Dr_willis> when whast starts up? The PC? or when X starts up? you may be refering to the  boot up splash screen?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> Hmmm
[01:05] <Dr_willis> You dident need to remove ubuntu-desktop or gdm.
[01:05] <northpunk> i didn't like it anymore anyways
[01:05] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm      and be sure that kdm is selected..
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: make sure your in admin mode so click the button on the bottom right when you go into the services section
[01:05] <northpunk> povray only has an interface for kde not gnome anyways.. and that is what started my decision to change it
[01:06] <michael_> ok, back and alsamixer is up
[01:06] <Dr_willis> You can easially run kde apps under gnome. : ) and gnome apps under kde.. heh..
[01:06] <northpunk> when i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm it just goes back to my root line and doesn't display anything
[01:07] <michael_> what do I need muted and what needs to be on other than the suround speakers of course
[01:07] <ardchoille> northpunk: Think about that for a second
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: bugger they have changed it, right click on cupsd then if it isnt market with "yes" to the right and start then do the same again and start at boot
[01:07] <ardchoille> northpunk: If you're logged in as root, why would you use sudo?
[01:08] <martijn81> thanks MaTiAz, i might buy a macbook in the future the (if the screen resolution is mimimum 1920x1200)
[01:08] <northpunk> well i'm not on as root or su right now
[01:08]  * Linux_Galore admins rhel machines all day so gets mixed up with user settings layouts
[01:09] <lovedeatm> ok
[01:09] <Minataku> Don't buy Apple products.
[01:09] <Minataku> Support free and open standards.
[01:09] <michael_> apple is nice
[01:09] <ardchoille> Minataku: Got it :)
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: Ive got one, for the life of me I cant think what people say they are easier I find them terribly confusing
[01:10] <Minataku> Sure, if you think completely proprietary hardware is "nice".
[01:10] <GrahamA> Does anybody here play Enemy Territory?
[01:10] <GrahamA> Wolfenstein, not Quakr Wars
[01:10] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, im goign to system ---> printer right/
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: no "services"
[01:10] <michael_> still have static
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: in the advanced tab
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> michael_: run alsamixer in a terminal
[01:11] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: OSX is based heavily off of NeXTSTEP, which was a horrible system if you ever had the misfortune of experiencing it
[01:11] <michael_> got it up
[01:11] <michael_> (they (we) are working you tonight, eh?
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> michael_: check mute and levels in each, you should see a whole pile of controls
[01:11] <michael_> I do
[01:12] <michael_> mic is at 0
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> michael_: if you see all the controls that means the driver is working
[01:12] <michael_> everything else looks good
[01:12] <michael_> but I still get static
[01:13] <michael_> I just switched from Suse and it worked great with that
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> michael_:   find a wav  file and type   aplay file.wav
[01:13] <lovedeatm> i wish windows had this irc thingie..this make linuz so much easier than windows by like a conjillion times
[01:13] <Minataku> There are two controls that carry importance, at least on my card
[01:13] <Minataku> "Main" and "PCM"
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: windows does have irc just no real community to talk of
[01:14] <Minataku> Set one to 100%, and adjust the other one as desired
[01:14] <martijn81> macbook pro or thinkpad T60?
[01:14] <lovedeatm> o0o...lol...i wihs i had known about it then and that they had a community
[01:14] <RogueJediX> I'm pretty sure I've seen a windows channel here on freenode
[01:14] <Minataku> I set "Main" to 100% and adjust "PCM"
[01:14] <Minataku> martijn81: Thinkpad T60
[01:14] <Minataku> But I personally and very highly recommend Toshiba laptops
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> RogueJediX: yeah, there are a few FOSS projects on windows but the community os very small
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> is*
[01:15] <michael_> I played a MP3 and get all static
[01:15] <RogueJediX> Linux_Galore: Ah, I see
[01:15] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, cupsys = yes = running
[01:15] <Minataku> I've got two Toshiba machines running ATM
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> hard to have a community when one side keeps saying "we own it all and wont share", sort of puts a dent in the realtionship
[01:15] <Minataku> One is from 2003 and is my primary system
[01:15] <Minataku> The other is a collection piece from 1987
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: ok
[01:16] <devinus> when the hell will kde4 be released
[01:17] <NickPresta> !kde4 > devinus
[01:17] <lovedeatm> yeah...ok i think i'm throuhg with question for the night thanks all for the help..im sure ill be back for me..im working on a server...using ubuntu..anyway lataz
[01:17] <Minataku> When it's ready
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: run  sudo  adept_manager
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: lets get all the HP stuff installed
[01:17] <NickPresta> Linux_Galore, that should be kdesu, instead of sudo
[01:17] <michael_> gotta go
[01:17] <lovedeatm> k
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> NickPresta: never used the k version in 3 years
[01:18] <michael_> later folks, thanks
[01:18] <NickPresta> Linux_Galore, that's fine, but http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[01:18] <michael_> I may have more time later
[01:18] <michael_> thanks Linux_Galore:
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> NickPresta: I know, un-needed fluster
[01:19] <lovedeatm> ok so what do i now
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> type hp in the seach box
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: what type of HP printer is it ?
[01:20] <Zabulus> now that my mouse is actually working, knock on wood, any suggestions on making the linux experience more pleasurable?
[01:20] <lovedeatm> its an deskjet 832C and 830C
[01:21] <Minataku> Hm
[01:21] <ardchoille> Zabulus: mplayer libdvdcss2 (medibuntu repo)
[01:21] <Minataku> I just noticed that the Toshiba T1200 keyboard has the Ctrl key in the Unix position
[01:22] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, 832C and 830C, i DLed the drivers though so it owrks now
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: ok make sure the foomatic-hp-hpijs  package is installed if not install it
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: aah dont worry then
[01:22] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, lol yeah its installed and thanks...
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: might be wise though to install the correct drivers package
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: that way you get any updates automatically
[01:24] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, foomatic? yeah its installed
[01:25] <Dr_willis> I find that by using windows for some time.. when i come back to Linux.. i find linux very pleasureable.. :)
[01:26] <neville> Yes!!
[01:26] <neville> I agree!
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: also hpijs
[01:26] <Zabulus> gahh, now i get to figure out why audio card isnt working...
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> I have mixed feeling, windows does some things better linux others
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: networking working now?
[01:27] <Zabulus> my networking was fine, i was having problems with my mouse
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> I think it more to do with Linux not being supported by hardware makers than anything
[01:27] <Dr_willis> I find some programs FOR windows - do some things better then some programs for linux. :)
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> oh... yeah... thats right
[01:27] <Zabulus> now im trying to play music, but im not hearing anything
[01:27] <neville> Try them in Wine?
[01:27] <neville> I fiddled with it for a long time
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Vista seems to have been a step back in 'hardware' compatiability  for a lot of my stuff...
[01:27] <neville> And got most everything of mine going fine in wine
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: check and make sure all of the channels in kmix are maxxed and unmuted
[01:27] <neville> Except for some games
[01:27] <Dr_willis> sucks when the HW makers decide to obsolete things. :)
[01:28] <Linux_Galore> I think Linux/BSD etc have an edge over windows thanks to the community
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well  Nero 8 would work with wine.   Id live to see all of Nero8  and its tools ported to linux
[01:28] <Linux_Galore> I think Linux doesnt sell the community aspect enough and just talks software
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> Microsoft Achilles heal is the lack of a free and open community
[01:29] <N1ghtm4r3> Helo everybody
[01:29] <N1ghtm4r3> i am right now on my Kubuntu Live CD
[01:29] <Zabulus> everything in kmix is good
[01:29] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, i just installed hpijs like you said anything else i should do?
[01:29] <neville> See
[01:30] <neville> If Linux had a footprint bigger than <1%
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: well you can look at the other packages and see what you like but thats all I installed form my HP jet stuff
[01:30] <neville> I'm sure we'd get alot of the Windows software too
[01:30] <neville> =]
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: hrm... what audio chipset?
[01:30] <N1ghtm4r3> im going to reinstall Kubuntu again
[01:30] <Zabulus> i have a soundblaster audigy 4
[01:31] <N1ghtm4r3> due to previous problems
[01:31] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, ok, can you have a look at this question and give me your thought http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19501
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | Zabulus look it up on this page
[01:31] <ubotu> Zabulus look it up on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:31] <Dr_willis> audigy 4? that the xi-fi card?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> or is it called X-fi - i forget.
[01:33] <Zabulus> thats whats weird, i think it was working with feisty
[01:33] <Zabulus> maybe the bios turned my onboard audio back on...
[01:33] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, it's X-Fi, but that isn't the same as the audigy 4 card, IIRC
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: why RTSS, I just use nfs
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Well last i heard the 'x-fi' cards for some odd reason - creative had released 64bit drivers.. but not 32bit drivers...
[01:34] <lovedeatm> whats nfs...
[01:34] <Dr_willis> I havent kept up on it lately. My Audigy2 is still doing the job. :)
[01:34] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[01:34] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:34] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, yeah. I was checking it out today: http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/default.aspx
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> !nfs
[01:34] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, the 64bit drivers aren't too great but at least they're available :)
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Yep. Creative really dropped the ball with their x-fi stuf.. i was going to get one.. but decided to not bother.
[01:35] <lovedeatm> !nfs > lovedeatm
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm:   user |
[01:36] <lovedeatm> thats for the file sharing side...RTSS is for streaming audio
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm:   user | subject
[01:36] <N1ghtm4r3> funny how i can install Linux very easily and run whatever programs i want at the same time
[01:36] <N1ghtm4r3> the only problem to this is that my computer's fan becomes very loud lol!
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: what not icecast
[01:37] <Zabulus> well, i think ill check bios to see if onboard got activated somehow
[01:37] <Zabulus> brb
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: why not icecast
[01:38] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, i have icecast...im more concerned about the workstations part of the question
[01:38] <refreshrate> i want to make a keyboard shortcut for /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh, i changed its permission, but i still cant use it w/o being root. anything i can do?
[01:38] <lovedeatm> because i still need to be able to run things like final cut pro and garagband on the mac\
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: aaah proprietary lock in
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> ilife<- talks to -> ilife
[01:40] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder
[01:43] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder. can i do that
[01:43] <Zabulus> yay, simple fix
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: havwent got a clue I only have 1 apple machine and I dont use it for media
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: works now?
[01:44] <Zabulus> yep, my onboard audio somehow got turned back on
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: what was the fix for the mouse?
[01:44] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, o...i have a top that won't install linux on it...thats another log gruling thing and im sure your tired and dont want to help woth that its late ya'now
[01:44] <Zabulus> now im just hoping that doesnt mess something up with my win xp
[01:45] <Zabulus> im not actually sure what fixed the mouse, im not even sure its entirely fixed or if i havent set off whatever triggers it to freeze
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: Ive got a G3 lap and Linux is not well supported on ppc anymore Im finding
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: yellow-dog is supposed to be good
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> lovedeatm: unless you have a server then its fine
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: XD
[01:46] <Zabulus> ok, any more suggestions for a better linux experience?
[01:46] <Zabulus> yeah, i keep knocking on wood every time i say my mouse is working
[01:46] <Zabulus> knock on wood
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: don't do anything until you know exactly what it does.
[01:46] <lovedeatm> Linux_Galore, lol not a server check it out...this is what happened after following all the directions for a G# lombard, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19141
[01:47] <Zabulus> now i have to figure out which of my games i can play on linux
[01:47] <lovedeatm> G38
[01:47] <lovedeatm> G3*
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> UT2004, Doom, Neverwinter NIghts
[01:48] <jembouge> Neverwinter Nights great
[01:48] <jembouge> :p
[01:48] <jembouge> works all fine
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> wow works pretty well under wine now
[01:48] <smooker> hi all, i have problems with the sound, i cant put the sound UP its like 30% and my KMix doesnt work ..
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> smooker: run alsamixer
[01:49] <Zabulus> well, which doom? and how about unreal anthology?
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: all of the dooms
[01:50] <Zabulus> awesome
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> there is also a pile of open source doom engine games
[01:50]  * Zabulus grabs doom trilogy
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Wolfenstein is good too
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> as well as Saurbraten
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> also some unreal engine based games too
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> Alien Arena for example
[01:51] <Zabulus> i think i have too many games
[01:51] <Zabulus> nahhhh
[01:52] <smooker> thanks it was like 70% in alexamixer but stil not hearing as before
[01:52] <ardchoille> Zabulus: No such thing as "too many games"
[01:52] <smooker> proubly i have other mixers with the players come ?
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> Im am mame person and Linux is the king of emulation support
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> a*
[01:52] <Zabulus> yes there is, when you dont have enough time to play 1/4 of the games you have
[01:53] <user_> soup all...  i have Feisty installed on an old lappy.  the cd-rom recently died.  would i be able to download the Gusty .iso and mount it while runny Feisty to install 7.10?
[01:53] <Linux_Galore> I must be the only person with over 40 different version or space invaders
[01:53] <Zabulus> you should be able to use feisty do update, not have to use image
[01:53] <user_> Zabulus: I have a corrupted version of 7.04 already :/
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> I must be the only person with over 40 different versions of space invaders
[01:54] <Zabulus> ouch
[01:54] <Zabulus> you said that
[01:54] <user_> zabulus: i have no directory other than "root"
[01:54] <user_> zabulus: which contains "desktop" and thats *all*
[01:54] <Zabulus> how the hell did you do that?
[01:55] <ardchoille> Are you viewing "hidden" files/folders?
[01:55] <user_> zabulus: don't know.  booting one day, it said it found errors on the disk, and to run fsck.  So i did, and when i finally was able to get into X, everything was gone
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> user_:  sudo -s  then look
[01:56] <user_> ardchoille, linux_galore: i can try that, but i'd like to do a fresh install of 7.10
[01:56] <Zabulus> 40 different versions of space invaders, i think ive played 10-20 different versions, dont have any installed on my comp
[01:56] <user_> am i able to mount the .iso while running Feisty?
[01:56] <user_> networking is all i have that still works
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> user_: standard user on 7.04 cant view root directories from memory
[01:56] <Zabulus> have a few versions for ps2, one of those "collections" games
[01:57] <neville> Has anybody here ever given Virtualbox a go before?
[01:57] <user_> linux_galore: maybe i phrased it wrong - when i open konqueror, it automatically opens root (file:///), and in there is "Desktop".  There are *no* other directories (ie, /usr, /bin/ /home)
[01:57] <neville> If so, what was the performance like?
[01:58] <Linux_Galore> user_: correct that is exactly right
[01:58] <user_> linux_galore: so what is the fix?
[01:58] <Linux_Galore> user_: you opened konqueror as a "user"  users dont change root directories on root does
[01:58] <Linux_Galore> only*
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> neville: works great here
[01:59] <user_> i used to be able to view all directories before, now i can't even open /home
[01:59] <Linux_Galore> user_:  type  sudo konqueror
[01:59] <user_> ok, so what changed?
[01:59] <user_> why could i view all my directories before, but not now?
[01:59] <Linux_Galore> user_: basically your user isnt an administrator
[01:59] <mcrandello> neville: I'm running windows in it, it's not much slower than native
[01:59] <Zabulus> hey, is there a game like bust a move that i can dl?
[01:59] <mcrandello> neville: having some problems with drm devices though which kind of makes it moot
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> user_: check your user settings, basically your machine is in normal secure mode
[02:00] <user_> linux_galore: so i do i revert back to the way it was?
[02:00] <user_> linux_galore: i wouldn't know where to look, as i didn't knowingly change anything- this all started after running fsck
[02:00] <mcrandello> neville: also turn off composite effects on the DT if you want to run windows in seamless mode, it causes refresh problems otherwise
[02:00] <neville> Ahh
[02:01] <neville> Because, I wasp lanning on putting Windows 98 on it, and seeing if Starcraft would run well
[02:01] <neville> Due to Wine not entirely liking Starcraft
[02:01] <mcrandello> I don't think it does accellerated 3d if it uses that
[02:01] <neville> Starcraft is direct draw 3 =]
[02:01] <Zabulus> hehe, bomberman!!!
[02:02] <neville> Only needs a 90MHz processor, 16Mb ram
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> user_: The root directory (/) contains a file called /.hidden. Open this in a text editor and delete the names of the directories which you want to have shown.
[02:02] <MaTiAz> insane requirements.
[02:02] <neville> Tell that to me when I had my pentium 90, and I'll be inclined to agree =P
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> user_: you will have to open the file with sudo
[02:03] <neville> Thanks for the input though mcrandello
[02:03] <Zabulus> so whats a good version of bomberman on here?
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> ksudo kedit
[02:03] <Zabulus> multiplayer version hopefully...
[02:04] <user_> linux_galore: thanks!  that probably will work.  But now, I'm still interested in being able to mount an .iso of 7.10 (seems better to do fresh install - people have had issues upgrading).  Is this possible?
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> !upgrade
[02:04] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:05] <user_> Linux_Galore: i don't want to upgrade- I want to do a fresh install, hopefully without the aid of flash drive (don't have one) or cd-rom (recently died)
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> user_: I don't suppose it can net-boot?
[02:06] <user_> linux_galore: if this isn't possible, i'll try the upgrade
[02:06] <mcrandello> user_: that's going to be very complicated I would think
[02:06] <ardchoille> user_: How many hard drives do you have?
[02:06] <Linux_Galore> user_: just upgrade, it will just replace the old packages
[02:06] <user_> ardchoille: only one
[02:06] <mcrandello> partitions?
[02:07] <ardchoille> user_: Ok, you're going to need one partition to use while the installer is running and another partition to hold the new system it is installing to. Can you see why that wouldn't be a good thing with only one drive?
[02:07] <Zabulus> hey, does anyone know of a good multiplayer online version of bomberman? the more like bomberman party edition it is the better
[02:07] <user_> ardchoille: yeah, i understand... fortunately, repartitoning is fairly easy
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: think about the path your taking, have you got a spare 3 hours
[02:08] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: That's exactly what I was trying to get user_ to realise
[02:09] <user_> ok, i get it! :) I'll re-open hidden files, and upgrade like everyone else
[02:09] <Linux_Galore> user_: basically with Linux almost anything can be done, the down side is your going to have to blow 3-4 hours way of your time to get there
[02:09] <Linux_Galore> away*
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> user_: the hidden files are not hidden to the root user only to the normal user
[02:10] <user_> linux_galore: why would it take 3 hours to mount 2 drives and copy an O/S to one?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> as onlg as you have "cp" anything is possible
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> user_: updates are a root process so those directories wont be hidden
[02:10] <user_> linux_galore: ok, so i can skip that step if i just want to upgrade, right?
[02:11] <user_> I can just use
[02:11] <user_> Adept to upgrade then?
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> user_: backup files, resize partitions, partition hard disk, the list goes on
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> user_: just read the following link
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> !upgrade
[02:12] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:13] <user_> alright, alright.  I'll try it.  thanks everyone for the help!
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> heh
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> I usually just save /home and flush the system
[02:15] <ardchoille> Better to put /home on its own partition
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: I do that but I have had installers totally ignore my instructions and stuff up /home
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: eh?never had that happen..
[02:17] <Xcell> finally
[02:17] <deuryte> xcell
[02:17] <Xcell> ya
[02:18] <Xcell> Everything ok?
[02:18] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: Oh, that's not good.
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: yeah especially when I didnt back it up for a month
[02:19] <deuryte> its still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial,
[02:19] <deuryte> i finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial
[02:19] <Xcell> Deu: brb..stand by.
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> think it was a red hat bug on the installer   ie use whole disk but not this bit conflict
[02:20] <Linux_Galore> so now I always backup the /home directory/partition
[02:22] <Xcell> k
[02:22] <deuryte> its still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial,
[02:22] <deuryte> i finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> man I totally love my N810 with canola 2 (media player)
[02:23] <Xcell> Tomorrow..bring the modem and sys with you..k?
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> got my holidays coming up so i can take some movies that I havent watched yet and sit on the beach and relaxe
[02:23] <deuryte> let me try a little more 1st
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> ?modem
[02:24] <Xcell> k stand bye...ask ardchoille he can help.
[02:24] <deuryte> serial modems are the only way !!!
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> god no, not dial up I hope
[02:25] <deuryte> if u saw where i lived, youde be concidered rich to have even that
[02:25] <Xcell> ardchoille:  I put brand new Kubuntu using high speed..he took it home and has dial up.
[02:25] <ardchoille> eeewww @ dialup
[02:25]  * ardchoille knows nothing about dialup
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> deuryte: Im spoilt I must admit 22mb connection
[02:25] <deuryte> yum, yum. he he he i luv dial up!!
[02:25] <Xcell> He has no choice ardchoille.
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> Xcell: satelite
[02:26] <Xcell> Please walk him through it.thanks
[02:26] <jaz_> umm hi
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> I spent 20 years on dialup, never will I go back
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> 1200 baud terminal connections argh!
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> hai jaz
[02:27] <deuryte> mine is 1201...
[02:27] <deuryte> got the hi speed dial up/
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> heh
[02:28] <jaz_> i just got Kubuntu Running ^-^
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> I remember my first 56K modem, I saved up for a month
[02:28] <Xcell> deu: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s06.html
[02:28] <deuryte> 4
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> jaz_: welcome to freedom
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> someone should create a "So you have installed Kubuntu what now" howto
[02:29] <jaz_> lol
[02:30] <jaz_> im trying to update my Graphics driver atm
[02:30] <Xcell> Deu is my physical brother, be nice or i will......you know..lol.
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> jaz_: I used envy
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> !envy
[02:30] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[02:30] <ardchoille> !nvy
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <deuryte> xcell, site didnt diclose enough, will be searching........
[02:31] <jaz_> Envy?
[02:31] <Xcell> k
[02:31] <Xcell> deu: google (dailup) kubuntu.
[02:31] <deuryte> w2ktu rocks
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> jaz_: install envy  ksudo apt-get install envy  then run it  with ksudo envy
[02:32] <jaz_> ok, ill check it out
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> jaz_: it install ati/nvidia drivers for you
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> installs
[02:33] <jaz_> ok kewl thnks for the tip
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> jaz_:  actuall you need to type ksudo envy -g
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> actually*
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> jaz_: that will give you the easy to use graphical installer
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> no! do NOT use envy!
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[02:35] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[02:35] <Xcell> deuryte: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/network/C/connect-modems.html#dialup-config
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: Ive used it heaps of times with no issues
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> !worksforme
[02:35] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: On different platforms
[02:37] <deuryte> nice one !!  ill try that one out !!  xcell
[02:37] <Xcell> k
[02:37] <Xcell> hey..do my full nic so I can hear you when im busy
[02:38] <deuryte> xcell.  was that it?
[02:38] <NIXPIX> hey guys i have a question i have no clue where to start...i installed the ATI 200m driver into my feisty64 bit
[02:38] <NIXPIX> and when i have special effects...ex shutdown...screen goes grey
[02:38] <deuryte> oh, i woulndt of done that
[02:38] <Xcell> dom as it asks..then we will go from there
[02:39] <NIXPIX> it gives me these 2 glitch bars...
[02:39] <NIXPIX> on thee bottom right of my screen
[02:39] <NIXPIX> there about an inch long...and about an inch apart from eachother...
[02:39] <NIXPIX> i tryed screencapturing it...and it didnt show up on the picture
[02:40] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: did you enable compiz in your xorg file ?
[02:40] <NIXPIX> how do i check
[02:41] <Linux_Galore> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf  should be right on the end of the file
[02:41] <Xcell> deuryte: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kppp/index.html
[02:41] <deuryte> 4
[02:41] <NIXPIX> like its just there...same spot...everytime...it doesnt impead anything i do...but i am unable now to go into like...desplay manager..in system settings
[02:41] <Linux_Galore> section "Extensions"   option         "Composite" "Disable" EndSection
[02:42] <deuryte> actually, it already has that in it...  the hand book. i just saw it before i gave up, ill go back to it later.
[02:42] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX:  you should see "Enable"
[02:43] <NIXPIX> at the top
[02:43] <Xcell> k  if U want to..bring back and ill get it working k?
[02:43] <NIXPIX> o srry end
[02:43] <Xcell> tomorrow.
[02:43] <NIXPIX> i see extentions composite enable
[02:43] <deuryte> bi-nutu........  for those who like it both ways....
[02:43] <NIXPIX> so i set it to disable
[02:43] <NIXPIX> ?
[02:43] <deuryte> 4
[02:43] <Xcell> k
[02:44] <Xcell> Do not do any sys settings..do not.
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: no enable if you want effect disable if you dont
[02:44] <deuryte> xcell  ok, but for now, you too can read up on it, the kppp handbook is factory...
[02:44] <NIXPIX> i dont have compiz
[02:44] <NIXPIX> i just want to watch my movies in open gl
[02:44] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX:  then disable it
[02:45] <Xcell> I have..tomorrow U will be happy..just vring the modem (with) you..k?
[02:45] <Xcell> bring
[02:45] <Xcell> And dont gorget the cables.
[02:45] <deuryte> 4
[02:45] <NIXPIX> effects...like...transparacy
[02:45] <Xcell> Did boot the monitor ok?
[02:45] <Linux_Galore> I find compiz sucks for video playing
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[02:46] <NIXPIX> so that graying effect is gone...when composit= disable
[02:46] <deuryte> it didnt need any changes, i tryd but it kept same settings...
[02:46] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: yes
[02:46] <NIXPIX> hmm...
[02:46] <NIXPIX> and transparacy
[02:46] <NIXPIX> of my windows
[02:46] <Xcell> nice..U r fine then..bring tomorrow and we will settle things..
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX:  transparency is there just not the effects
[02:47] <NIXPIX> o
[02:47] <Xcell> Nuff said.
[02:47] <NIXPIX> so if i want to disable do i need a capital letter
[02:47] <NIXPIX> is it Disable...or just disable
[02:47] <Zabulus> damned, my mouse just froze...
[02:47] <deuryte> what do you think it is??  it queries and finds the modem, but when i attempt to dial out, it doesnt go any further than to initialize.....
[02:47] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: I think it works either way
[02:48] <NIXPIX> ok...so how do i test to see if that solved the prob
[02:48] <Xcell> It has to be configured...tomorrow..not now.
[02:48] <Zabulus> ok, how do i stop my mouse from freezing?
[02:48] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX:  press ctrl alt backspace
[02:49] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: that will restart the xserver
[02:49] <NIXPIX> kkk...brb
[02:51] <neo> Guys I am running kubuntu 7.10 with 512mb ram and right now i have Konversation open with dual monitor setup and the number of free ram memory is 112mb(22%). Is it normal because my system is going slow and is it due to dualhead?
[02:51] <NIXPIX> um..i tryed disable as well as Disable
[02:51] <NIXPIX> and i still get thise bars
[02:51] <NIXPIX> and i still get the grey effects
[02:52] <NIXPIX> where it greys down...when you go to shutdown
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> neo: no looks like you have something sucking up your ram  run ksudo ksysguard
[02:52] <nyork> @neo yep.. try ksysguard. it will show what is eating up your resources
[02:52] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: thats not a compiz effect
[02:53] <NIXPIX> o
[02:53] <hrp2171> seasons greetings!  need help!  how do i become root during live cd session?  need to recover some files off a laptop.  thank you.
[02:53] <NIXPIX> i still get the bars
[02:53] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: thats been around for years
[02:53] <NIXPIX> o
[02:53] <NIXPIX> like...i just need to know where to start searching for an answer
[02:54] <nyork> hrp2171: root of the installed system or root of the livecd?
[02:54] <Zabulus> ok, i need help, my mouse keeps freezing, i thought it was fixed, but, apparently not
[02:54] <neo> Is VMsize the size of the memory an app be using?
[02:54] <NIXPIX> like...its so incredibly strange...
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: the bars I suspect are an error in your setup ie refresh/resolution is out fo sync
[02:54] <Linux_Galore> of*
[02:54] <NIXPIX> and?
[02:54] <hrp2171> become root while using the live cd.  the laptop's drive won't boot and need to recover some files off from it.  ive already mounted the partition but cant see inside it.
[02:54] <NIXPIX> change desktop size
[02:54] <NIXPIX> ?
[02:55] <adamonline45> Is there a way to adjust gamma or overall screen brightness?
[02:55] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX:  well I usually just run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <NIXPIX> that SHOULD fix...or tell me whats wrong
[02:55] <Xcell> deu: I am in another room say my full nic when needed.
[02:55] <Xcell> deuryte
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: that allows you to play with the settings, its a helper app
[02:56] <neo> Guys there are so  many processes in Ksysguard, what to do?
[02:56] <nyork> neo: what live cd are you using? kubuntu?
[02:56] <NIXPIX> o
[02:56] <hrp2171> ran sudo mount /dev/sda1 to-mount-point but the ubuntu live cd user cant cd into it
[02:56] <NIXPIX> xserver driver...
[02:56] <NIXPIX> uhh
[02:56] <Zabulus> need help, my mouse keeps on freezing up
[02:56] <NIXPIX> what do i say to that
[02:56] <neo> Its  not live its installed on my hdd.
[02:56] <neo> yes its Kubuntu
[02:56] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: it should show a list of drivers
[02:56] <NIXPIX> so what do i pic
[02:56] <NIXPIX> pick
[02:56] <deuryte> xcell
[02:57] <NIXPIX> fglrx
[02:57] <NIXPIX> ?
[02:57] <nyork> hrp2171: what live cd are you using? kubuntu?
[02:57] <sub[t]rnl> adamonline45: System settings -> monitors -> color & gamma.  (and the actual monitor of course)
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX: what ever suites your card
[02:57] <Xcell> ya
[02:57] <NIXPIX> i have an ati 200m
[02:57] <hrp2171> 6.06LTS Kubuntu.  also the hd partition is mounted ntfs rw
[02:57] <nyork> neo: try killing some of the process...
[02:58] <Linux_Galore> NIXPIX:  fglrx sounds right, if you get it wrong you can run the command again
[02:58] <hrp2171> i tried su - but no password works to switch to root access.
[02:58] <Zabulus> need help, my mouse keeps on freezing up, can anyone assist me?
[02:58] <neo> Can I list say five or ten processes name here at a time and you can tell me which ones to kill?
[02:58] <ardchoille> hrp2171: You don't need su, use sudo
[02:58] <nyork> hrp2171: try sudo su
[02:59] <NIXPIX> this might help...when i installed the gl driver from restricted drivers manager
[02:59] <hrp2171> awesome nyork
[02:59] <nyork> neo: yep.. let's try..
[02:59] <NIXPIX> it didnt have this problem
[02:59] <hrp2171> thanks
[02:59] <ardchoille> nyork: That's not recommended nor supported.
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: started happening again?
[02:59] <nyork> hrp2171: you are the root user now? :-)
[02:59] <Zabulus> yep...
[03:00] <Zabulus> i was doing different stuff, tried to go to myspace, and it froze
[03:00] <hrp2171> ardchoille: im using the live cd to recover some files off my niece's laptop because the drive won't boot anymore.
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: any clue at all what you did? do a "dmesg" see if the kernel is doing something.
[03:00] <Linux_Galore> sudo -c  is not to be used unless you have your head screwed on
[03:00] <neo> acpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd
[03:00] <Zabulus> seems like it happens when the computer is loading something
[03:00] <ardchoille> sudo is all that is needed. Been using it for years and haven't needed anyting else
[03:00] <hrp2171> Linux_Galore: i know how to run with scissors  LOL
[03:01] <deuryte> xcell
[03:01] <Zabulus> ummmm, dmesg has a nice long output
[03:01] <Kr4t05> VOICE ME NIGGERS
[03:01] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: depends, I often have long admin sessions and sudo can be annoying
[03:01] <Xcell> ya
[03:01] <nyork> neo: list all process not only those for the user
[03:01] <deuryte> the "j" room is now back open...
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: just look at the last 20 lines or so( if you haven't rebooted since your mouse froze)
[03:02] <neo> Its all, should I list enter more now.
[03:02] <Xcell> lol b right there.
[03:02] <polo2> sources.list.save is a backup of the original sources.list?
[03:02] <Xcell> lol not 4 me.
[03:02] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: for 5 minute admin sessions sudo is fine but for reconfiguring apache or mysql on a server forget it
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> polo2: maybe.
[03:03] <Zabulus> am i looking for something specific? im too new to linux...
[03:03] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: sudo vim apache2.conf?
[03:03] <polo2> maybe? is posible not?
[03:03] <nyork> neo: in the process table tab .... you can use the list all processes drop down...
[03:03] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: 1 file, now the other few thousand root only files I have
[03:03] <adamonline45> sub[t]rnl: Alright cool, thank you!  My color still doesn't match a gif I made in gimp when viewed from my windows computer...
[03:04] <RobertoM_[away]> Linux_Galore: maybe you miss sudo -s ? :-)
[03:04] <RobertoM_[away]> The real problem with sudo is that if you mess with your hostname, you're out of your PC
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> yeah sorry typo sudo -s
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> sigh, to many command flags
[03:05] <deuryte> xcell, non responding
[03:05] <mcrandello> is -s similar to -i?
[03:06] <Xcell> ya  I cant go.lol
[03:06] <Zabulus> nosrednaekim: am i looking for something specific?
[03:07] <nyork> mcrandello: -s: shows sizes with -l. -l only show long list format
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: anything to do with USB or mouse
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: did you reboot since it froze last?
[03:07] <Zabulus> nope
[03:08] <RobertoM_[away]> mcrandello: (if you where talking about sudo :-) ) similar but not the same. -s only starts a shell in the current dir, -i simulates a login for the root user
[03:08] <Zabulus> i dont see anything about usb or mouse...
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> sudo -i  changes the user variable -s doesnt ie $PATH etc
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: soo how are you working without a mouse?
[03:09] <Zabulus> alt+tab and what not
[03:09] <RobertoM_[away]> 4am... time to go to sleep for me ^^'  good night to all
[03:09] <mcrandello> RobertoM_[away]: so then -s would be a lot handier in a lot of instances where I don't want to change dirs to /root
[03:09] <mcrandello> (night)
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: lol, ok....try doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look at the last 20 or so lines of that for anything relating to mouse or input
[03:09] <hrp2171> thanks guys.  worked wonderfully.
[03:10] <Xcell> deuryte
[03:10] <deuryte> yo
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> mcrandello: yes if you what to stick to your admin user variables -s is better
[03:10] <Xcell> whats up
[03:10] <ardchoille> tail -lines 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:10] <deuryte> pondering modemic epidemic
[03:10] <neo> acpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd dbus-daemon dcopserver dd dhsdbd dhclient events/0 getty hald hald-addon-acpi hald-addon-keyb  hald-addon-stor hald-runner hcid init kaccess kacpid kacpi_notify katapult kblockd/0 kblueplugd kded kdeinit kdesktop kdm khelper khubd kicker kinfocenter kio_file kio_uiserver kjournald klauncher klipper klogd kmix knetworkmanager knotify kondemand/0 konqueror konsole konversation kpsmoused
[03:10] <neo> krfcommd kseriod ksmserver ksoftirqd/0 ksuspend_usbd kswapd0 ksysguard ksysguardd kthreadd kwin kwrapper migration/0 NetworkManager NetworkManagerD pdflush scsi_eh_0 scsi_eh_1 sh ssh-agent start_kdeinit syslogd udevd watchdog/0 Xorg s-session-manag
[03:10] <ardchoille> oops, should be --lines
[03:11] <Zabulus> yeah, pretty much everything i can see has to do with input/mouse
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: can you pastebin it?
[03:11] <neo> Well these are all of the processes, which one to stop and how
[03:11] <Zabulus> ummm, not really
[03:11] <Linux_Galore> neo: in ksysguard ?
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: you registered? if so...PM me and paste it there
[03:11] <neo> yes
[03:12] <nyork> neo: you can sort these processes such that it is arranged from process intensive to lesser
[03:12] <Linux_Galore> neo: select it then stop it with the button down the bottom
[03:12] <Zabulus> ok, but it might take a while, and it might be a mess
[03:12] <neo> VMsize?
[03:12] <nyork> neo; just click the "System%" on top
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> that looks like alphabetic neo
[03:13] <sub[t]rnl> htop ftw
[03:13] <Xcell> oi.
[03:13] <nyork> neo: with sorted processes you will know which is eating up your resources....
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> neo: click on the vmsize column that should show what is sucking up your ram
[03:14] <neo> ok
[03:14] <Linux_Galore> neo: dont kill xorg
[03:14] <neo> ok
[03:14] <neo> xorg is taking up 97
[03:14] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: Yes, htop is awesome
[03:14] <Xcell> ya htop rocks
[03:14] <Linux_Galore> neo: xorg is your graphical interface
[03:15] <Linux_Galore> neo: 97 in what column ?
[03:15] <neo> I don't know which process I need and which I don't thats why l listed all of them to see if you can see which ones not right.
[03:15] <neo> VmSize column
[03:16] <neo> konversation is 62
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> neo: go down one at a time starting from the top
[03:16] <neo> ok
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille you just like it cause your a cli junky
[03:16]  * sub[t]rnl ducks
[03:16] <Xcell> lol
[03:16] <ardchoille> Indeed :)
[03:16] <neo> VmSize is in order 0 to 97
[03:17] <path_> hi there
[03:17] <Xcell> hi there 2
[03:17] <path_> having issues upgrading to gutsy
[03:17] <Linux_Galore> neo: I just need the first 5 thats were the probem will exist
[03:17] <sub[t]rnl> :p
[03:17] <path_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu2_all.deb
[03:17] <path_> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz', which is also in package vim-common
[03:17] <path_> :\
[03:17] <Xcell> oi
[03:17] <Linux_Galore> problem*
[03:17] <neo> you mean the five highest in the VmSize column
[03:17] <nyork> neo: yup
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> neo: yep, if its sucking up that much ram it will be up the top
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> in vmsize
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> within the first 5-10  but normall the first 5
[03:19] <Linux_Galore> normally*
[03:19] <nyork> path: try sudo rm /usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz. then run your upgrade again
[03:19] <neo> Then its Xorg-97 konversation-62 kdesktop-53 kinfocenter-47 kicker-38 konqueror-38 artsd-37 kded-35
[03:19] <Linux_Galore> neo: looks normal
[03:20] <neo> Is it possible that there might be spyware running
[03:20] <Xcell> oi
[03:20] <Xcell> nozi
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> neo: not on Linux
[03:20] <nyork> neo: Linux_Galore is right.. it is not possible in GNU/Linux
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> neo: with Linux you have to "intentionally" install spyware
[03:20] <path_> nyork same error
[03:21] <neo> Should I list the rest that are in double figures?
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> neo: if you want, could be you have too much crud running, it does add up
[03:21] <neo> crud?
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> neo: applets/monitors etc
[03:22] <ardchoille> neo: How much ram do you have?>
[03:22] <neo> I migrated to Linux few days back and I don't even know how to properly setup my desktop let alone set 'crud'!
[03:22] <neo> 512mb
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> neo: on my machine firefox is consuming 207mb and right under that is xorg
[03:23] <path_> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> 512mb is cutting it a bit thin these days
[03:23] <path_> WTF ?
[03:23] <neo> ok should I increase the ram
[03:23] <path_> I cant install anything :shock:
[03:24] <Xcell> deuryte
[03:24] <ardchoille> neo: One thing you could do is kill konqueror if you don't use it much. I'm not sure why the devs made d3lphin the default fm and then left 2 konq procs running all the time.
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> path_: I had the same bug a while back in feisty
[03:24] <neo> how do I kill a process?
[03:24] <Xcell> deuryte
[03:25] <path_> Linux_Galore and you fixed it ?
[03:25] <deuryte> sup
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> neo: right click on the process then click on the [KILL] button down the bottom
[03:25] <Xcell> alt+f2+kppp
[03:25] <nyork> path: they have this thread in ubuntu forum.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167504&highlight=VIM
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> path_: yes, Im trying to remember how, it was a package script bug
[03:25] <neo> there is no kill option
[03:26] <deuryte> what is that??
[03:26] <nyork> path: i just don't know if that will also work for you..
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> lol
 ok, now, how do i do that? (forgive my ignorance)
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> [22:26] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+backspace..
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> [22:26] <nosrednaekim> its ok :D
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> [22:26] [Error] Zabulus: No such nick/channel.
[03:26] <Xcell> bocopy your connection statistics on paper..and boot kubuntu and press alt+f2  and put (kppp) and enter info
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> path_: I have the feeling it was ripping kde out and putting it back that fixed it
[03:27] <path_> nyork It worked :D
[03:27] <nyork> path,Linux_Galore: hope you did not experience the hal errors during the upgrade ...
[03:27] <deuryte> bocopy ??
[03:27] <Xcell> copy
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> nyork: lol, no
[03:28] <nyork> path: awesome..
[03:28] <path_> nyork at this point nope
[03:28] <path_> yet having issues with locales
[03:28] <Xcell> right click on your Ubuntu network screen thingy and copy stats
[03:28] <niteriderII> hi yall
[03:28] <deuryte> connection statistics, where are these??
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> neo: did you run ksysguard   ie sudo ksysguard
[03:28] <ardchoille> Never run a gui app with sudo. use kdesudo
[03:28] <nyork> nyork: i have to do a clean install of gutsy rather than an upgrade due to those errors.. that was a few days after the release.. i got my lesson.. upgrade after a month..
[03:28] <ardchoille> !kdesudo
[03:28] <niteriderII> i need some help for kubuntu concerning a synaptics touch pad
[03:28] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:29] <Xcell> bottom right..click on the small computer screen
[03:29] <neo> yes and I found the kill button, I was looking for it in the context menu(that how I did it in windows)
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> neo: I did say "down the bottom"
[03:30] <neo> Sorry and thanks, so would you suggest I should get more ram?
[03:30] <deuryte> it just showed connection speed and ip address.. no data there for modem configs
[03:30] <neo> Ya sorry, my mistake.
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> neo: yeah, I added another 512meg on the last update
[03:30] <Xcell> system.network settings..go from there
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> neo: mainly sue to firefox sucking up my ram
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> due*
[03:30] <Xcell> sys admin.net settings
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> neo: 512m of ram is dirt cheap right now
[03:31] <neo> Ya it does that and I am definitely upping my ram
[03:31] <path_> Need to get 583MB/597MB of archives.
[03:31] <neo> I have p3 I wonder if it supports 1g ram
[03:31] <path_> thats pretty nice
[03:31] <deuryte> 4
[03:31] <Xcell> k
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> neo: firefox 3 is fixing the ram problem
[03:32] <Linux_Galore> I think firefox 3 is on the repo too
[03:32] <neo> that would be nice and I can't wait to use it, I love FF.
[03:33] <nyork> path: so you are continuing the upgrade..?
[03:33] <path_> yep doing an dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 I guess
[03:33] <posingaspopular> hey all, any way to transfer an .avi file to an ipodvideo?
[03:33] <path_> gutsy if Im not mistaken nyork ?
[03:33] <deuryte> the configs on this setup are no where near the same.........
[03:33] <nyork> neo: i think it do support 1gb...
[03:33] <Xcell> k
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: hmm there is a kde app that does that, hold on let me get the link
[03:34] <ubuntu> Hola.. Quien habla español???
[03:34] <posingaspopular> !es
[03:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:34] <neo> Well guys thanks, esp. Linux_Galore. I wish someday I could help others with Linux and be like you guys. You rock.
[03:34] <Xcell> boot kubuntu and press alt+f2 and enter kppp...se ya there/
[03:34] <nyork> path: 7.10 is gutsy...
[03:34] <neo> Love you, love FF, love linux and love Open Source.
[03:34] <deuryte> on ubuntu, all i had to do was get it to look at the modem, set it up with name and #... it took off.........
[03:34] <n1ghtm4r3> Hellloooo everybody
[03:34] <Xcell> ^
[03:34] <deuryte> 4
[03:35] <deuryte> brb in 10 if fail
[03:35] <Xcell> k
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Hyper+Video+Converter?content=67781
[03:35] <posingaspopular> thank Linux_Galore. i know it's possible, but i dont know the exact infomation
[03:35] <ubuntu> Gracias ubotu
[03:35] <Xcell> ubotu smart
[03:35] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[03:35] <Xcell> oi
[03:36]  * Linux_Galore is collecting karma +1 bits for xmas
[03:36] <Xcell> lol
[03:37] <posingaspopular> thanks
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> I tried smart, total crap
[03:37] <Xcell> It wasent ment 2 be..lol
[03:37]  * Linux_Galore mv smart  stupid
[03:38] <Xcell> hiccup!
[03:39] <larrywells> how do you mount cdrom
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> larrywells: "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt"
[03:40] <awag> anyone here have experience with sudden system freezes in gutsy?
[03:40] <Xcell> beat it to death....j/k
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: this is even better and its ipod specific http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Avi+2+iPod+%2B+PSP+%28mp4%29?content=5691
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: this I have used it works pretty well and even loads the file onto the ipod afterwards http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/thin+liquid+film?content=51678
[03:43] <n1ghtm4r3> alright this is weird
[03:44] <n1ghtm4r3> i just reinstalled Kubuntu , completly
[03:44] <Xcell> nice
[03:44] <Xcell> now fix it.
[03:44] <n1ghtm4r3> i installed Kubuntu restricted stuff
[03:44] <n1ghtm4r3> flash still dont work ... wtf
[03:44] <Xcell> and
[03:45] <Xcell> open the ff browser and go to a known flash site and it will prompt you
[03:45] <Linux_Galore> n1ghtm4r3: be careful there are two versions of flash on the repo make sure you install the adobe one
[03:45] <n1ghtm4r3> xcell: i dont have firefox
[03:46] <Xcell> install it..it will work universally..do it from add remove/internet
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> n1ghtm4r3: ie install flash-plugin-nonfree
[03:46] <Dr_willis> is that bug/md5 issue with flash still going on?
[03:47] <n1ghtm4r3> it keeps saying me that another process is using the database ... WTF
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> well I dont have any flash issues
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> n1ghtm4r3: do you have an other adept sessions open ?
[03:48] <n1ghtm4r3> Linux_galore: not realy
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> another*
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> n1ghtm4r3: it wont allows two sessions
[03:49] <Xcell> n1ghtm4r3: ..do a (sudo apt get update..when error appears do this..
[03:49] <Xcell> !aptfix
[03:49] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:49] <posingaspopular> Linux_Galore: i have this msg:  You are not using "bash" as your default shell.  This is most likely because you are using Ubuntu which links the default shell to the "dash" shell.  See http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=59 on how to fix this.  thinliquidfilm won't work properly unless you fix this.
[03:49] <posingaspopular> any idae?
[03:49] <posingaspopular> will it matter?
[03:50] <rob_> all aptitude related programs will not acess the internet, how do I fix this?
[03:50] <Xcell> !aptfix
[03:50] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:50] <rob_> that's not the problem
[03:50] <Xcell> oh
[03:50] <Dr_willis> how to fix it? heh tghe fix is for them to do their shell scripts right. :)
[03:50] <hydrogen> posingaspopular: see the link in the message you pasted?
[03:50] <rob_> the aptitude programs function correctly
[03:50] <rob_> just they won't acess the internet
[03:51] <rob_> I can reinstall programs who's packages have already been downloaded
[03:51] <hydrogen> although their justificationis are a bit not at all right
[03:51] <rob_> I can uninstall programs
[03:51] <Dr_willis> that 'fix' for fixing dash/bash is totally wrong  in its 'reasons'
[03:51] <hydrogen> yes
[03:52] <rob_> but apdept manager, apt-get, adept updater, aptitude, etc will not access the internet
[03:52] <rob_> can anyone help me?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> and its wrong in how to propely set /bin/sh to be bash. :0
[03:52] <Xcell> Dr_willis: it is a fix for those just starting..and will allow them to continue.
[03:52] <hydrogen> no
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  yes. but theres  the proper way to fix it.. then there his changes
[03:52] <hydrogen> it is a broken
[03:52] <Dr_willis> !dash
[03:52] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash
[03:52] <Xcell> Dr_willis:  post the fix then.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Heh that factoid has a typo also.
[03:53] <hydrogen>  /bin/sh is required to be a posix shell
[03:53] <Dr_willis> if the script uses BASH then it shoudl call bash with #!/bin/bash   NOT #!/bin/sh
[03:53] <hydrogen> not a bash shell
[03:53] <rob_> #room
[03:53] <rob_> ok so can anyone help me?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> the scripts are using 'bash' features - which do not exist in sh.
[03:53] <rob_> this is a serious problem... I was thinking of reinstalling linux but then I'd have to start from scratch and I'd rather not do that
[03:54] <Xcell> Nicely done
[03:54] <Xcell> Dr_willis:
[03:54] <rob_> !adept
[03:54] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:54] <Dr_willis> the proper way to change dash to bash is ---->  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[03:54] <Xcell> But: beginners cant get that far and are not afforded that info on a daily basis.
[03:55] <hydrogen> Xcell: so the scripts need to behave properly
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  totally wrong.. that sites fix had them doing all sorts of things...
[03:55] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash   --> asks a Simple YES/NO
[03:55] <rob_> HELP
[03:55] <hydrogen> rob_: be patient
[03:55] <Dr_willis> the true fix is for the scripts to quit relying on the bash 'bug' of allowing bash features when called as sh.
[03:55] <rob_> ok ok hydrogen I'll hold on
[03:55] <Xcell> k
[03:55] <Dr_willis> rob,  does 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' work?
[03:56] <Xcell> But like I said: Beginners who come here dont get that info readily.
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: I found it didnt ,atter
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: matter*
[03:56] <Xcell> I never seen it till U just posted it Dr_willis
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash  = - is much more clear then their fix.. and the script writers need to be told of the bug in their script.
[03:56] <hydrogen> Xcell: they do if the friendly people who answer questions answer it
[03:57] <hydrogen> !dash shows it properly
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  when they first did the dash change. there was a lot of scriopts that got broke.
[03:57] <Xcell> hydrogen: That is a rarity.
[03:57] <Dr_willis> most of them that i know are now fixed.
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> posingaspopular: easy to change the default back to bash though sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[03:57] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh explains the reasons and  issues.
[03:58] <Xcell> Thanks Dr_willis.
[03:58] <Xcell> That should be the fix that ubotu should show.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> The fix at the liquid weather site.. leads me to belive the guy dident research the dash   program/problem very much.  :)
[03:59] <Dr_willis> yea theres a typo in the bots factoid it seems
[03:59] <Dr_willis> !dash
[03:59] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash
[03:59] <Xcell> Dr_willis:  U have experience..beginners do not..have a little mercy.
[03:59] <posingaspopular> ah i see.. thanks guys
[03:59] <Dr_willis> Thats  the 'core' of the bugs with lots of scripts.. but theres other things to watch for.
[04:00] <posingaspopular> it doesn't matter atm because ubutnu decided to not see or mount my ipod again. whatever i'll deal with this some other time
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  i dident make the incorrect howto at that site. Im jut explaining how its wrong.
[04:00] <Xcell> k
[04:00] <Xcell> My apologizies
[04:00] <Dr_willis> i was about to post to their forum to give them the proper info.. but i aint going to register for that. :)
[04:00] <Xcell> Dont blame ya
[04:01] <Zombocom> ok this is rob_
[04:01] <Zombocom> someone just kicked me off of that nickname
[04:01] <hanzou> Hi, I am trying to use doxygen w/ default options.
[04:01] <hanzou> It generates colored code html...
[04:01] <gabriel__> Hi from Mexico
[04:01] <Xcell> Zomb: bill gates is atching you.
[04:01] <hanzou> but no function lists or classlists. How do I get it to do the cool stuff?
[04:02] <Xcell> watching
[04:02] <Zombocom> this nick is registered to me
[04:02] <n1ghtm4r3> wow i think my conection is angry at me lol
[04:02] <Zombocom> so Bill Gates can't to crap to me
[04:02] <Zombocom> exuse my french
[04:02] <Xcell> lol
[04:02] <Xcell> j/k Zomb.
[04:03] <n1ghtm4r3> Tu parle français Zombocom?
[04:03] <Xcell> Dr_willis: Could I enter that info and continue as is right now?
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> I have an old machine running winxp, mainly so I can connect some of my weird portable devices
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> my desktop is Linyx
[04:03] <Zombocom> damint I'm having more and more odd problems
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> Linux*
[04:04] <Xcell> Zombocom: U on 64 bit?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  i got it straight from  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh , its the 'proper' way to set /bin/sh to be bash or dash on a ubuntu system. :)
[04:04] <Zombocom> yes Xcell as a matter of fact I am
[04:04] <Xcell> k Dr_willis thanks man.
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> I must admit though I rarely use the winXP machine for connecting stuff anymore
[04:05] <SuprUsr> Does anyone know of command that would display the file size of an entire directory?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> and i Have edited some of those wiki pages. :)   not many but some.
[04:05] <Xcell> Good job.
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> there is a weird way of transfering video file to your ipod, use Amarok, Im not kidding it works
[04:06] <Xcell> Zombocom: I used the 32 bit kubuntu to avoid problems when learning linux..that was a personal decision.
[04:06] <Zombocom> I'm not really learning
[04:06] <Zombocom> normally I can maintain a system pretty well
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> only down side is it doesnt name the file properly on the ipod
[04:06] <Zombocom> it's when stuff like this happens
[04:07] <Zombocom> I'm going to uninstall something that I think could be at fault here
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> but you can see the video file on the ipod and play it
[04:07] <Xcell> Do the 32 bit thing..you will be much happier.
[04:07] <NickPresta> SuprUsr, du -c --si -max-depth=0 DIR `man du` for more information
[04:07] <Zombocom> this wouldn't be that big an annoyance had I not just uninstalled kdm
[04:07] <Dr_willis> SuprUsr,  'du -hs' is what i often use in a dir
[04:07] <Zombocom> by a freak accident
[04:08] <Zombocom> !aptfix
[04:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:09] <Linux_Galore> I find sudo dpkg --configure -a on its own works most of the time
[04:09] <NickPresta> SuprUsr, listen to Dr_willis. I forgot about "summarize" :)
[04:09] <deuryte> xcell
[04:10] <Xcell> ya
[04:10] <Dr_willis> heh heh..
[04:10] <SuprUsr> Dr_willis: Thanks.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> My Bash Prompt shows me the amount of Files in the current dir. :)
[04:10] <SuprUsr> Anyway to concactenate the "music
[04:10] <SuprUsr> ?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> willis@MythBox:~(2650.329 Mb)$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[04:10] <deuryte> no go, keeps hangin in the initialize state. then drops out after 1.5 min
[04:10] <Dr_willis> see i got 2650 mb in that dir. :)
[04:11] <SuprUsr> I just want a number and k/m/GB
[04:11] <Xcell> k bring tomorrow afternoon and will fix.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> du -hs --->  du -hs
[04:12] <Dr_willis> 194G    .
[04:12] <Dr_willis> wow i got a lot of G's
[04:12] <deuryte> there seems to be no modem commands in the modem command screen.....
[04:12] <SuprUsr> Dr_willis: It prints out "24G<tab>music"
[04:13] <Xcell> Dr_willis: Please walk deuryte so he can use dialup on kubuntu..thanks.
[04:13] <SuprUsr> Can I use grep to trim out the "<tab>music"?
[04:13] <deuryte> i also looked for the kppp wizard.  it didnt have one
[04:14] <deuryte> the kppp handbook said it did.  didnt see it
[04:15] <Zombocom> crap
[04:16] <Xcell> Deuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it.
[04:16] <Zombocom> !linux
[04:16] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:16] <Dr_willis> i aint used a modem in years...
[04:16] <Zombocom> !gnu/linux
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnu/linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:16] <Zombocom> someone needs to fix that
[04:16] <Zombocom> !gnu\linux
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnu\linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Zombocom> uh oh
[04:16] <Zombocom> !gnu
[04:16] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[04:16] <deuryte> 4
[04:16] <SuprUsr> !botabuse
[04:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:16] <Zombocom> ok ok
[04:16] <Xcell> !kppp
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Xcell> !dialup
[04:17] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[04:17] <Zombocom> aptitude will not acess the internet still
[04:17] <Zombocom> I uninstalled a program called anon-proxy in the hopes that it was the culprit
[04:17] <deuryte> KNetworkManager??  where is that??
[04:18] <Xcell> !KNetworkManager
[04:18] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[04:18] <Dr_willis>  just installing a proxy wouldent set everything to be using that proxy
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  but other apps work?
[04:18] <Zombocom> Dr_willis: I'm connected to irc through the same operating system, so I assume so
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  how about the web browser?
[04:19] <Zombocom> Dr_willis also pidgin and Konqueror work
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[04:19] <Dr_willis> so if you do a 'sudo apt-get install mc'   what happens?
[04:20] <Xcell> Deuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it.
[04:20] <hanzou> How do I get doxygen to list functions & classes & variables? By default it seems to only color-code source files.
[04:20] <Zombocom> E: Couldn't find package mc
[04:20] <Zombocom> that's what I get
[04:20] <deuryte> 26
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  ok. and try a 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:21] <Zombocom> this is the full output Dr_willis:
[04:21] <Zombocom> Reading package lists... Done
[04:21] <Zombocom> Building dependency tree
[04:21] <Zombocom> Reading state information... Done
[04:21] <Zombocom> E: Couldn't find package mc
[04:21] <hydrogen> !pastebin
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:21] <deuryte> w2ktu......
[04:22] <Dr_willis> That was it? it dident spit out a lot of messages?
[04:22] <Xcell> not
[04:22] <Zombocom> it spit out a lot of messages
[04:22] <Zombocom> two lines of which is
[04:22] <Zombocom> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg
[04:22] <Zombocom>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:22] <Dr_willis> AHA! thats a clue!
[04:22] <Dr_willis> it is trying to connect to localhost, thus does seem set to be using some sort of proxy
[04:22] <deuryte> w3.1tu....
[04:22] <Xcell> Dr_willis: Take a hike.
[04:23] <Zombocom> ok ok I'll restart linux
[04:23] <Zombocom> I just got rid of a program called anon-proxy
[04:23] <Zombocom> what else should I be looking for?
[04:23] <Zombocom> a firewall program?
[04:24] <SuprUsr> Does anyone have an idea on how to trim the directory label the output of du -hs?
[04:24] <sakthian> hi
[04:24] <deuryte> z---zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   whoa??  ok, ok  im awake.........
[04:24] <SuprUsr> Currently, it prints "<filesize><tab><directorylabel>",  want only "<filesize>"
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  im curious as to if some how your apt settings got set to use a proxy.
[04:25] <sakthian> how to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system
[04:25] <Zombocom> Dr_willis: I installed anon-proxy and another program called smproxy
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  check the /etc/apt/sources.list file  , see if they have some entrys that mention 4001 and so forth..
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  yea. but i dont think just installing a proxy server would edit the system settings like that.
[04:26] <Zombocom> oh shit...
[04:26] <Zombocom> I'm introuble
[04:27] <Xcell> lool keep lisrening to Dr_willis..lol
[04:27] <Zombocom> almost everything is gone
[04:27] <Zombocom> in the systems part of the kicker
[04:27] <Zombocom> oh god
[04:28] <Xcell> enjoy.
[04:28] <Zombocom> Xcell...
[04:28] <Zombocom> what happened
[04:28] <Xcell> ya
[04:28] <Zombocom> adept_manager is gone
[04:28] <Zombocom> adept_updater is gone
[04:28] <maduser> ...............
[04:29] <maduser> wow um...
[04:29] <Zombocom> this program shouldn't even exist
[04:29] <maduser> yeah...
[04:29] <Xcell> sudo apt-get touch /forcefsck   and re boot to make files repaired.
[04:29] <Xcell> Thats all I know.
[04:29] <Zombocom> invalid operation touch
[04:30] <Xcell> oi
[04:30] <Dr_willis> That sounds bad Zombocom  -    You dont have anything super imporntant on the system do ya?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> If so i'd be backing up stuff right now.
[04:30] <Zombocom> Dr_willis not really...
[04:30] <Zombocom> starcraft is on this drive though...
[04:30] <Zombocom> I kinda like starcraft
[04:30] <Xcell> push the reset buton..hurry
[04:30] <Dr_willis> 'sudo toucn /forcefsck' i think is the right command.
[04:30] <Xcell> lol
[04:30] <Dr_willis> 'sudo touch /forcefsck' i think is the right command.
[04:31] <Zombocom> no returns
[04:31] <Zombocom> geesus
[04:31] <Zombocom> jeesus
[04:31] <Dr_willis> that makes a file on the / that  will make the system check the filesystem on next boot.. if no error came out.. thats good.
[04:31] <Xcell> just reboot and enter it and reboot..no worries
[04:31] <Zombocom> lol
[04:31] <Zombocom> ok this is bad
[04:31] <Zombocom> do I shut down normally?
[04:31] <Dr_willis> not as bad as it first sounded..
[04:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:31] <Xcell> Re boot dont be silly
[04:32] <Zombocom> ok have linux shutdown or do I just do an unclean reboot
[04:32] <Xcell> your sys is adjar...reboot
[04:32] <Dr_willis> just have it reboot
[04:32] <Zombocom> lol
[04:32] <sakthian>  how to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system
[04:32] <SuprUsr> !source
[04:32] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:32] <SuprUsr> Oh, wait.
[04:32] <Dr_willis> sakthian,  why are you installing xmms from source in the first place?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> !info xmms
[04:33] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB
[04:33] <SuprUsr> Old version?
[04:33] <Zombocom> ok 1 or 2... 1 as in hold down shutdown untill system powers off by force or 2 enter sudo shutdown -r now in the terminal
[04:33] <Dr_willis> xmms  is not that old. :)
[04:33] <SuprUsr> Well, I dunno?
[04:33] <SuprUsr> Anyway.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> xmms IS old.. i mean.. and its proberly best to  start using some other tools.. :) but the version in the repo is not that old from the one he has.
[04:33] <SuprUsr> Dr_willis: How do you trim out the directory name when you run "du -hs"
[04:33] <Xcell> sudo shutdown -r now
[04:34] <Zombocom> kk
[04:34] <Dr_willis> SuprUsr,  what dir name?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> du -hs
[04:34] <Dr_willis> 80K     .
[04:34] <Dr_willis> you mean the . ?
[04:34] <SuprUsr> 24G     .
[04:34] <SuprUsr> Yes.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> guess ya could use awk for that.
[04:34] <SuprUsr> The dot.
[04:34] <Xcell> waits.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> check the du options - it may have it also.
[04:35] <SuprUsr> Dr_willis: I did. Nothing seems to be in there. :/
[04:35] <Dr_willis> du -s
[04:35] <Dr_willis> 203012472
[04:35] <Dr_willis> oh wait it had the . also. :) heh
[04:35] <SuprUsr> Or else I'm not looking hard enough... I've stared at the manpage for du for a few minutes.
[04:36] <SuprUsr> I thought grep might be able to do it, but I guess not. :/
[04:36] <Dr_willis> grep prints out lines matching a pattern.
[04:36] <SuprUsr> Yeah.
[04:36] <Dr_willis> awk/sed edit input out.
[04:37] <Xcell> Zombocom  hasnt returned..oi.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> du -s | awk '{print $1}'
[04:37] <Dr_willis> 203012472
[04:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:38] <SuprUsr> Dr_willis: Awesome.
[04:38] <SuprUsr> Thanks. :)
[04:38] <sakthian> how to install .tar.gz
[04:38] <Dr_willis> awk is worth learning a bit of..
[04:38] <Dr_willis> sakthian,  uncompress it.. read its docs..  installthe needed libs/C compiler. do the './configure make, and make install'  procedure
[04:39] <maduser> whats that other program similar to awk  is it called sed?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> sed and awk sort of are like... salt and pepper. :)
[04:39] <Dr_willis> both work well together. :)
[04:39] <maduser> sed is easier to use
[04:39] <Dr_willis> but ya often perfer one to the other.
[04:40] <maduser> true
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Yep. sed is good for a lot of the similer needs.
[04:40] <maduser> but can't awk do more?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> perl can also do a lot of things.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> awk is... sort of amazing in what it can do.
[04:40] <maduser> more amazing then sed?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> I have the using sed/awk book.
[04:40] <maduser> ah
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Yes. awk is much more amazing/flexiable/powerfull then sed
[04:40] <maduser> I learned how to sort of use it off of the acm
[04:41] <maduser> online courses
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> awk supports more complex commands better than sed I find
[04:41] <Dr_willis> i belive ive seen games written in awk. :)
[04:41] <Dr_willis> written by SICK people! :)
[04:41] <maduser> there are lots of things created by sick people
[04:42] <maduser> in many senses
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> same people who write lisp games heh
[04:42] <Dr_willis> http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm
[04:42] <Dr_willis> not sure how legal that url is.. :)
[04:42] <maduser> the same people who made........
[04:43] <maduser> ufdsfasdffhdhhsdffhdtht
[04:43] <maduser> dam
[04:43] <maduser> i just slamed my keyboard
[04:43] <maduser> woops
[04:43] <awag> anyone have problems with compiz fusion causing a total system freeze on a regular basis?
[04:43] <maduser> no
[04:43] <awag> :)
[04:43] <awag> mine was working fine for about a month
[04:43] <awag> and then last week it started freezing randomly
[04:43] <maduser> then what?
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> yes
[04:44] <maduser> ah
[04:44] <awag> i havn't changed anything to my knowledge
[04:44] <maduser> I still have time left for that
[04:45] <awag> another thing that is interesting, at around the time my system started freezing randomly, firefox also stopped saving my previous sessions
[04:45] <awag> even though i have it set to restore session on start
[04:46] <maduser> hmmm
[04:46] <Xcell> interesting
[04:46] <awag> yes
[04:46] <awag> hehe
[04:46] <awag> it sucks
[04:46] <Xcell> restart xorg?
[04:47] <maduser> lots of things suck
[04:47] <Xcell> re config xorg?
[04:47] <awag> well, everything seems to be working fine just using kwin though
[04:47] <maduser> dunno
[04:48] <awag> and compiz seems to work perfect as well, just after about 30 min of using it
[04:48] <awag> it freezes
[04:48] <awag> maybe vid card overheating?
[04:48] <Xcell> ya
[04:48] <awag> it is odd, if i boot up with compiz
[04:48] <Xcell> prolly
[04:48] <awag> and then go away, and don't use my computer
[04:48] <awag> it is fine
[04:48] <maduser> how old is your computer?
[04:48] <awag> but then if i start using it
[04:48] <awag> and spinning my cube and shit
[04:48] <awag> it will die without fail
[04:48] <awag> in about 30 - 1 h
[04:49] <Dr_willis> spinning your cube can cause blindness...
[04:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:49] <awag> hahaa
[04:49] <Xcell> lol card is tired.
[04:49] <Dr_willis> dare i suggest just disabling compiz ?
[04:49] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:49] <maduser> you could
[04:49] <awag> well, see, the thing is, when i'm doing homework and stuff, i sometimes like to be able to wobble my windows, and distract myself
[04:50] <maduser> ah
[04:50] <Xcell> lol
[04:50] <Dr_willis> window wabbling can cause blindness...
[04:50] <Zombocom> dear god it fixed nothing
[04:50] <Zombocom> I'm reinstalling kubuntu
[04:50] <Dr_willis> :)  My wife made me turn off Wobbly windows for her.
[04:50] <awag> haha
[04:50] <awag> my gf thinks it's cool
[04:50] <Zombocom> and never taking advice from Dr_willis
[04:50] <awag> and wishes windows could do it
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  or check your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt config file.
[04:50] <maduser> there are much worse things in thois world then reinstalling kubuntu
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  whatever ya want.. have fun.
[04:50] <awag> lol
[04:50] <Xcell> sudo touch /forcefsck        see if U can now.
[04:51] <Zombocom> Xcell I did that
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Guess i will stop researching the problem.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Are the menus and things still messed up?
[04:51] <Xcell> sudo apt-get clean     ?
[04:52] <awag> man, i bought this video card just so i could use compiz-fusion too
[04:52] <Xcell> how old
[04:52] <awag> is there an app i can use to see the temp of an nvidia card in kubuntu?
[04:52] <Zombocom> look it up on adept_manager
[04:52] <awag> agp geforce 6600 256 mb
[04:52] <Zombocom> something I cannot do anymore
[04:53] <Xcell> awag    htop
[04:53] <awag> Xcell, k thanks
[04:54] <maduser> well Zombocom your screwed
[04:54] <Zombocom> thanks maduser
[04:54] <Xcell> lol i smell re- install/
[04:54] <Zombocom> exactly Xcell
[04:54] <Zombocom> lol
[04:54] <Xcell> this time use 32 bit
[04:55] <ciacon> hi all... I was wondering, if the standard kubuntu install is applyed to a core2duo...
[04:55] <kdehelp> hello
[04:56] <kdehelp> y can't I install Kde on my computer
[04:56] <Xcell> ?
[04:56] <Zombocom> KDE 4?
[04:56] <kdehelp> I try to use synaptic
[04:56] <Dr_willis> kdehelp,  just use 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[04:56] <kdehelp> cant find kde in search
[04:56] <kdehelp> ill try
[04:56] <Dr_willis> install 'kubuntu-desktop' not 'kde'
[04:57] <Xcell> ya
[04:57] <awag> oh, stupid me, nvidia-settings shows temp
[04:57] <Xcell> oi
[04:57] <Xcell> lol
[04:57] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  you may want to check your  /etc/apt.conf    to see if it has any proxy settings, and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:58] <awag> hmm, only 42 degrees
[04:58] <path_> what mirror is fast ?
[04:58] <Xcell> I quit useing graphic cards..on board video for me..less expense and headaches/
[04:58] <awag> lets see what happens when i reenable compiz
[04:58] <path_> ubuntu.com seems pretty slow
[04:59] <Zombocom> Dr_willis I don't have many of the core applications that come with kubuntu anymore
[04:59] <Zombocom> I uninstalled a proxifying program that somehow treed up to core aplications
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  thats... odd...
[04:59] <Zombocom> and uninstalled them
[04:59] <Zombocom> yes it is
[04:59] <Xcell> dony use ubuntu..use a another ubuntu uses 50k max only.
[04:59] <Zombocom> Konqueror
[04:59] <Zombocom> is gone
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  how did you uninstall them?
[04:59] <Zombocom> Kopete is gone
[04:59] <Xcell> hahhah
[04:59] <Zombocom> I uninstalled something calles smproxy or something
[04:59] <Xcell> 2 funny
[04:59] <Zombocom> smanon
[04:59] <Zombocom> os some thing like that
[05:00] <Dr_willis> HOW did you uninstallit? with adept? or from the command line?
[05:00] <Zombocom> sm something
[05:00] <Zombocom> adept manager
[05:00] <awag> nice, already up 3 degrees
[05:00] <Zombocom> then all of a sudden adept_manager dissapeared
[05:00] <Dr_willis> so adept some how removed itself. :)
[05:00] <Zombocom> I look and adept manager is gone
[05:00] <SuprUsr> Someone name a decent manufacturer of portable media players? (Besides Apple.)
[05:00] <Zombocom> adept is still there
[05:00] <Dr_willis> try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' perhaps..
[05:00] <Xcell> zom...download 32 bit...works well on 64 bit comp...no worries.
[05:00] <Dr_willis> if apt now works..
[05:00] <Zombocom> Xcell it's the principle of it all
[05:01] <Zombocom> Dr_willis I still have the problem where adept doesn't acess the internet
[05:01] <Xcell> I know but still....why punnish yourself.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  well now the question.. do you want to try to fix it..or just reinstall the os...
[05:01] <maduser> i would sugest reinstall
[05:01] <Zombocom> reinstall sounds like it would take far less time
[05:01] <kdehelp> looks like it worked,,,thx
[05:02] <kdehelp> Im going to relg in and seell
[05:02] <Xcell> good job kde  bravo.
[05:02] <Zombocom> Xcell I on the other hand have failed
[05:02] <awag> hmm, temp is still only 46 C after spinning the cube for a minute or so, that should be a fine temp for it to run at i think..
[05:03] <Xcell> nah z  ur just fine
[05:03] <Xcell> sudo apt-get remove./bill gates.
[05:03] <Zombocom> sudo apt-get remove ./steve jobs
[05:03] <Xcell> lol
[05:03] <Dr_willis> i wouldent think the  6600 video card would have much of a heat issue.. Unless you are in bad need of a cooling fan or 2.
[05:04] <Xcell> z do the 32 bit and be (happy) done with it.........already.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> i would also say - stick with the 32bit disrtos unless you know you have a need for 64bit stuff.
[05:05] <awag> Dr_willis, yeah i can't believe heat would be the problem, i have quite a few fans, and the temps seem to be fine, and i opened the case and put a room fan next to it just in case
[05:06] <Zombocom> NO Xcell I DEMAND THE PAIN
[05:06] <Xcell> lolo  un necessary
[05:06] <Xcell> awag
[05:06] <Xcell> z  pinch me..hurry........no waiting.
[05:07]  * Zombocom pinches Xcell
[05:07] <Xcell> feels 32 bit ticklness.
[05:07] <Dr_willis> awag,  could of been some update to compiz that is causing issues/memory leaks leading to crashing.. with compiz its hard to tell.
[05:08] <Xcell> good point...mem leak
[05:08] <Dr_willis> and your cube spinning maybe making it leak faster - due to centripital force. :)
[05:08] <Xcell> plug it with more room fans....lol.
[05:09] <Xcell> maybe a mem test?..all I know.
[05:10] <Xcell> z...stop talking so fast..k?
[05:11] <n1ghtm4r3> back .. conection went nut
[05:11] <n1ghtm4r3> had to reconfigure everything lol
[05:11] <Xcell> bravo.
[05:12] <awag> hmmm
[05:12] <awag> this time it died a slow death
[05:13] <awag> where i was able to actually move the mouse while it was dying
[05:13] <awag> and i could back out to a terminal and run top
[05:13] <awag> and compiz was taking like 70% cpu
[05:14] <Xcell> it would on startup
[05:14] <Xcell> but d htop..u can quit sessions at will.
[05:14] <Xcell> do
[05:20] <omarete> hola
[05:20] <Xcell> butter
[05:20] <awag> hi
[05:20] <Xcell> !es
[05:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:20] <omarete> hi??
[05:20] <omarete> hola
[05:21] <awag> hola
[05:21] <omarete> necesito algo d ayuda jeje
[05:21] <awag> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:21] <omarete> mmmmmmmm olvide como se hacia para mover como un cubo el escritorio d kde
[05:21] <awag> lol
[05:22] <Xcell> omarete:  we dont speak and dont understand..K?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !es | omarete
[05:23] <ubotu> omarete: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:24] <Xcell> k?
[05:27] <Xcell> Boaring for a sat nite.
[05:28] <n1ghtm4r3_> Beam me up Scotty!
[05:28] <Xcell> no waiting.
[05:28] <mactalla> Hey there.  Could anyone tell me how to get the FLAC encoder for K3B?  (Kubuntu 7.10)
[05:28]  * awag is updating random packages in hopes that they will fix his compiz problems
[05:29] <n1ghtm4r3_> mactalla do a barrel roll
[05:29] <Xcell> lol awag...wrong answer.
[05:29] <n1ghtm4r3_> no lol im kidding
[05:29] <awag> :)
[05:29] <mactalla> n1ghtm4r3_: if that would work, I'd do it :)
[05:30] <n1ghtm4r3_> mactala: hehehe ^
[05:30] <Xcell> google it.'
[05:33] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: so flash still seems not to be working
[05:33] <mactalla> Mmm... looks like it's missing from my KDE install entirely (no FLAC in audiocd:/, either).  Can't figure out what package I've missed, though.
[05:33] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: any idea?
[05:33] <Xcell> mactalla: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=34468
[05:34] <Xcell> n1ghtm4r3 32 bit?
[05:34] <Xcell> Talk to me
[05:34] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: yep
[05:34] <Xcell> have fire fox?
[05:35] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: yep
[05:35] <Xcell> !flash
[05:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:35] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: already did all that
[05:35] <Xcell> what happens
[05:36] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: in fact its installed on FF , on Konq when i try to load a flash it gives me a blank grey square
[05:36] <mactalla> Xcell: thanks.  I'm looking through that now to see if there's anything beyond "install flac"  I did find a bug on launchpad that looks like my problem... but no response to it.
[05:38] <Xcell> N1ghtm4r3:  go to crooksandliars.com  and report back..i Use that site as a test due to that it uses all codec.
[05:44] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: whenever i close or refresh a page with a flash on it i get an error message , googled it and i got this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90570
[05:46] <deuryte> xcell sleeping??
[05:46] <Xcell> stand by.
[05:50] <n1ghtm4r3_> ?
[05:51] <Xcell> n1ghtm4r3 U sure U R useig fire fox?
[05:52] <deuryte> no.  ice box
[05:52] <mactalla> Found it, the 'flac' package (not libflac) was needed, then it showed up under 'external codec' instead of being named.
[05:52] <Xcell> I see no bugs for ff only konq
[05:52] <Xcell> nice mactalla.
[05:54] <Xcell> hey due.
[05:54] <Xcell> mountaindue.
[05:54] <path_> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[05:54] <path_> whats that? :/
[05:54] <path_> I know its an error eheh
[05:55] <n1ghtm4r3_> xcell: no i said it works on firefox but not on konq
[05:56] <Xcell> ah  then u must go to konq and look through plugins and see if it sees ff plugins as a ref
[05:56] <n1ghtm4r3_> Xcell: we did that yesterday , i believe it does
[05:58] <Xcell> its a switch some where..just go through all the settings and see if u missed something..thats all i can do for right now..
[05:58] <deuryte> xcell, any thoughts on my delemma??
[05:58] <Xcell> u r a dilemmmmmma.
[05:58] <Xcell> lol
[06:00] <Xcell> just stop by your nearest dialup dealer and donate...you should receive instructions via snail mail.
[06:00] <deuryte> is that next dooe to the w2k green box??
[06:00] <deuryte> to the *
[06:01] <Xcell> ya  they dont take american xpress though.
[06:01] <deuryte> maybe some bill gate gift certificates
[06:01] <Xcell> sudo apt-get remove./bill gates
[06:02] <deuryte> he he he he
[06:02] <deuryte> ok, times up. zzzzzzzzzzz-zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[06:02] <Xcell> im wore out right now..cant think straight...tired.
[06:03] <deuryte> inebriated??
[06:03] <Xcell> no...tired
[06:03] <deuryte> inhibitions toxic ??
[06:04] <Xcell> did u finnish vid?
[06:04] <deuryte> negative, got lamblasted with other schtuff.........
[06:04] <Xcell> k
[06:05] <deuryte> will do when i can mentally fit it all together........
[06:05] <Xcell> sleepig usually does that
[06:05] <the-erm> anyone know off the top of their head how to change the volume up/down step percentage?
[06:05] <the-erm> kmix doesn't really have an option for it.
[06:05] <deuryte> do they make remotes for pc's ??
[06:06] <Xcell> I havent seen 1 the-erm
[06:06] <the-erm> deuryte: I have a gyration media center remote - basically a usb keyboard - really nice I can press next from anywhere in the house really nice when you have wireless headphones.
[06:07] <deuryte> ty. key board is the control head ??
[06:07] <the-erm> Works out of the box, but you might need to set up a few things in ~/.Xmodmap
[06:07] <Xcell> wireless phones cook brain cells.
[06:07] <the-erm> A computer monitor probably cooks brain cells ...
[06:07] <deuryte> thankx the-erm
[06:07] <Xcell> lol
[06:08] <Xcell> rf maround the cranium is nutritious.
[06:08] <Xcell> around
[06:10] <deuryte> see ya !!
[06:10] <Xcell> k..3 or better
[06:10] <deuryte> 4
[06:10] <deuryte> 26
[06:10] <Xcell> k
[06:10] <deuryte> 10148
[06:10] <deuryte> 10-48
[06:11] <Xcell> 26
[06:11] <Xcell> 51
[06:11] <deuryte> 10-98 bed
[06:22]  * maduser is listening to Come together by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok]
[06:23] <maduser> hello?
[06:24] <maduser> to see somthing cool, open a query with yourself
[06:25] <maduser> ot even says in the conerner talikg to yourself
[06:25] <dreaming> lol
[06:25] <maduser> its quite funny
[06:26] <maduser> it looks like someone is repeating everything you say
[06:26]  * maduser is listening to Eleanor Rigby by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok]
[06:27] <crimsun> (please don't spam the channel with song status updates ;)
[06:27] <maduser> i didn't think anyone was on
[06:29] <hydrogen> which.. one would think... would make you less likely to spam it
[06:29] <maduser> its like talking to yourself when no one is on
[06:29] <dreaming> I guess it's like whistling.
[06:29] <maduser> sort of
[06:30] <hydrogen> except much less appropriate
[06:30] <maduser> yeah
[06:30] <maduser> ill open a query with myself
[06:30] <dreaming> What's the keyboard shortcut for changing desktops?
[06:30] <maduser> in compiz?
[06:30] <dreaming> no, just normal kubuntu
[06:31] <dreaming> compiz doesn't like me
[06:31] <maduser> oh?
[06:31] <dreaming> makes taskbars disappear lol
[06:31] <maduser> you don't have a teme manager
[06:31] <maduser> when you download compiz you also have to install emerald
[06:31] <hydrogen> compiz is really not worth the effort
[06:31] <maduser> if you don't there will be no taskbar
[06:32] <maduser> it makes your computer look cool
[06:32] <maduser> brag to all your firends who use windows
[06:32] <neville__> I have Compiz running fine =/
[06:32] <neville__> Didn't need any effort
[06:32] <maduser> same here
[06:34] <Xcell> I queried myself...no one showed up.
[06:34] <maduser> are you registered?
[06:34] <Xcell> j/k
[06:34] <maduser> ?
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> Xcell: hehe
[06:35] <Xcell> registered nut.
[06:35] <maduser> double click yorself
[06:35] <maduser> double click yourself
[06:35] <Xcell> it hurts
[06:35] <maduser> same here
[06:36] <maduser> hehe
[06:36] <maduser> god i'm tired
[06:37] <Xcell> sleeeeepy.
[06:37] <maduser> sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy
[06:37] <Xcell> u r sleeeeepy.
[06:37] <maduser> i am sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy
[06:37] <Xcell> snorz
[06:37] <maduser> yeah
[06:37] <Xcell> stop Yawning.
[06:38] <maduser> that helps
[06:39] <maduser> hmmm?
[06:40] <maduser> my computer is all messes up
[06:40] <Xcell> enjoy.
[06:40] <maduser> what?
[06:40] <Xcell> lol
[06:40] <maduser> did you............
[06:40] <maduser> nah
[06:40] <Xcell> ya
[06:40] <maduser> oh
[06:41] <maduser> this certanly is a problem
[06:41] <Xcell> what
[06:41] <maduser> I think my compter is trying to put me in a siezure
[06:41] <Xcell> how
[06:41] <maduser> every thing is flashing
[06:41] <Xcell> refresh rate screwed up
[06:42] <maduser> wow its like a light show
[06:42] <Xcell> ?
[06:42] <maduser> now my compter is all pink
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> theres a fix in the repo's
[06:42] <Xcell> u smoke 2 mutch
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> apt-get --purge remove acid
[06:42] <maduser> its so...............femimine
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> +1 bad joke
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[06:43] <Xcell> lol
[06:43] <maduser> my computers colors are all messed up
[06:43] <maduser> lets see...
[06:43] <Xcell> suso remove maduser./
[06:43] <Xcell> sudo\
[06:43] <maduser> ?
[06:44] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i transfer music to a phillips mp3 players
[06:44] <Xcell> install 2 paper cups ans some wire.
[06:44] <Xcell> and
[06:44] <maduser> lets try a refrese desktop
[06:45] <maduser> lets try a refresh desktop
[06:45] <Jay-Oh-En> shut up meany
[06:45] <Xcell> j/k
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: its not getting recognized?
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> when you just, plug it up
[06:45] <Jay-Oh-En> hold on ill tell you
[06:46] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: open amarok, then plug it in--it should be recognized
[06:46] <maduser> the only mp3 player i have ever seen instantly work is a Rollei
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> cause its the only one you have
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> zing!
[06:46] <Xcell> lol
[06:46] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[06:46] <maduser> no I have 7
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> wowsa
[06:47] <maduser> kubuntu treats it like a removeable flash drive
[06:47] <maduser> simiple to usr
[06:47] <Xcell> wow
[06:47] <maduser> simiple to use
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, thats hal and d-bus hard at work
[06:47] <maduser> yeah
[06:47] <bazhang> all my mp3 players have been recognized--haven't tried the zune though :}
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> zune.. isn't that a cell phone/mp3 player?
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> type dealio.  Thought I saw it advertised on tv
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> maybe i'm way off
[06:48] <maduser> i don't think so
[06:48] <bazhang> zune is the ms ipod-killer heh
[06:48] <maduser> the juke is
[06:49] <northpunk> anyone know hot to get the compiz to work on kubuntu 7.10?  i finally got the updates to get my nvida drivers to work.. but the commands for compiz don't work.  pm me
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> what commands you using?
[06:50] <Jay-Oh-En> no it doesnt
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: odd, does lsusb show anything?
[06:50] <maduser> compiz --relace?
[06:50] <northpunk> well i am trying to use what ever they have in the control panel to activate.. like ctr alt down.. but nothing happens
[06:50] <northpunk> done that
[06:51] <northpunk> i spent the last 5 hours going through tutorials.. and every fix that seems to work for someone
[06:51] <maduser> did you install the settings manager?
[06:51] <northpunk> and compiz-kde that doesn't install itself automatically. had to manually install that
[06:52] <northpunk> even restarted X many a time
[06:52] <maduser> kde?
[06:52] <sub[t]rnl> thats not really needed
[06:52] <sub[t]rnl> does ccsm bring up anything
[06:52] <maduser> the kde window manager?
[06:52] <northpunk> i am using kubuntu.. it uses the kmenu
[06:52] <northpunk> yeah it brings up the sttings control panel with scope, cube and everything
[06:52] <maduser> do you use emerald?
[06:52] <northpunk> but the commands that they state in the settings.. don't do anything
[06:53] <northpunk> have emerald instaleld but it does nothing more then change my themes
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> thats all emerald is, a decorator
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> just like compiz-kde
[06:53] <maduser> I was wondering if he had the problem of no taskbar
[06:53] <northpunk> ok well how do i get the cube, shimmer, add etc to work?
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> is ps ax|grep compiz showing you its running?
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> is "ps ax|grep compiz" showing you its running?
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> trying not to confuse
[06:54] <northpunk> my nvidia works at it is supposed to... but when i was in gnome and did the whole desktop effects thing.. it always told me it couldn't activate
[06:54] <northpunk> grep compiz?
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> run that command
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> ps ax|grep compiz
[06:55] <northpunk> 14206 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep compiz
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, you havn't started it
[06:55] <northpunk> how do i?
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> do what maduser said
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> compiz --replace
[06:55] <northpunk> i have done that many times.. hold on
[06:55] <maduser> does the screen turn black?
[06:55] <northpunk> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[06:56] <northpunk> Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0110 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[06:56] <northpunk> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
[06:56] <northpunk> Checking for non power of two support: present.
[06:56] <northpunk> Checking for Composite extension: present.
[06:56] <northpunk> Comparing resolution (1440x900) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed.
[06:56] <northpunk> Checking for nVidia: present.
[06:56] <northpunk> Less than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[06:56] <northpunk> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[06:56] <northpunk> metacity?
[06:56] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[06:56] <maduser> isn't that a window theme?
[06:56] <sub[t]rnl> gnome
[06:56] <maduser> ah
[06:56] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install emerald
[06:56] <northpunk> and no it didn't go black
[06:57] <northpunk> emerald is already the newest version
[06:57] <maduser> so it does not work
[06:57] <maduser> do you have it set as emerald as the window manager?
[06:57] <northpunk> how do i do/check that?
[06:58] <maduser> settings manager
[06:58] <sub[t]rnl> or run emerald --replace
[06:58] <northpunk> "system settings"?
[06:58] <maduser> no
[06:58] <maduser> settings
[06:58] <path_> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[06:58] <path_> Im still getting that message error
[06:58] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: how do i get it to work
[06:58] <maduser> avanced desktop effects
[06:58] <path_> what can I do ?
[06:58] <northpunk> emerald --replace is just sitting there with no text or anything
[06:59] <northpunk> now my terminal isn't doing a thing
[07:01] <bazhang> northpunk: alt-f2 then emerald --replace
[07:01] <maduser> yeah
[07:01] <maduser> wait northpunk, you were doing everything in the terminal?
[07:01] <maduser> not the run command?
[07:02] <northpunk> gtk warning ** cannot open display
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> first off, compiz isn't starting
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> so no need to run emerald
[07:02] <northpunk> so do compiz there too
[07:02] <northpunk> ?
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> you don't have your video card driver setup
 Less than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[07:02] <northpunk> samething about metacity not found
[07:03] <northpunk> my nvidia is finally set up and working
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> well, compiz was made for gnome, so its trying to load the window manager (default in gnome is metacity)
[07:03] <northpunk> i even get the 3d logo when i start kubuntu now
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> because compiz is failing to start
[07:03] <maduser> ug his compiz thinks he has ubuntu
[07:03] <maduser> got to change that
[07:03] <northpunk> yeah i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop still didn't work at all
[07:03] <northpunk> so i removed it again
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> heh...
[07:03]  * sub[t]rnl sighs
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> pay attention to the errors that its giving you
[07:04] <northpunk> i started with ubuntu server.. no desktop
[07:04] <northpunk> installed ubuntu desktop.. never worked
[07:04] <northpunk> then i installed kubuntu because it lokos and runs better.. and runs povray hwo i want it too
[07:04] <maduser> it has nothing to do with the desktop
[07:04] <northpunk> so i should spend another hour waiting for ubuntu desktop to install again?
[07:05] <maduser> no
[07:05] <northpunk> i mean gnome
[07:05] <maduser> you got to change the settings so compiz uses emerald
[07:05] <sub[t]rnl> compiz wont start
[07:05] <northpunk> but everyone is telling me why this isn't working or why that isn't working.. no one has told me how to change that setting
[07:06] <maduser> wait
[07:06] <northpunk> it is all about finding what error messages i geet
[07:06] <maduser> are you like new to linux?
[07:06] <neo> guys when I use dcd to play cd the volume remains very low even with full cd volume in KMix
[07:06] <neo> Why?
[07:06] <northpunk> final told xp to screw off because the bugs were to much
[07:06] <sub[t]rnl> neo: try alsamixer
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> northpunk: you need xgl, compiz isn't loading because of your video card
[07:07] <maduser> yeah
[07:07] <neo> same results with alsamixer too
[07:08] <northpunk> xserverl-xgl?
[07:09] <neo> Is it my soundcard?
[07:09] <sub[t]rnl> are you using kde or gnome?
[07:09] <northpunk> kde
[07:09] <neo> kde
[07:09] <northpunk> i have installed and removed gnome so many times trying the different patches and things
[07:09] <sub[t]rnl> northpunk: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl. then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (or alt + ctrl + backspace)
[07:09] <sub[t]rnl> then run compiz --replace
[07:09] <northpunk> and i know i can switch between the 2.. but gnome cluttered up my kstart with to many links
[07:10] <maduser> installing gonome won't do anything
[07:10] <dreaming> that xserver seems to have done the trick for me as well
[07:10] <northpunk> ok well xgl is installing still
[07:10] <dreaming> cheers
[07:10] <northpunk> brb
[07:10] <dreaming> im brand brand new to linux :D
[07:10] <sub[t]rnl> dreaming: welcome aboard
[07:11] <maduser> ah
[07:11] <sub[t]rnl> neo: do you have volume issues with other apps? or just dcd
[07:11] <Xcell> dreaming: sudo apt-get remive./bill gates.
[07:11] <neo> judt dcd, others are fine
[07:12] <Xcell> no donnt
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> neo: check the man pages, i havn't used it, i use mpg123 for console based players
[07:12] <neo> ok thanks
[07:12] <maduser> vlc
[07:12] <Xcell> sub[t]rnl: Does that work well?
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, i dig it
[07:13] <Xcell> Ill try that.
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> well, used too before linux desktops got so damn purdy
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> now i've abandoned my anti-xwindow ways
[07:13] <maduser> before x?
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> i started using linux in 96, we had x
[07:14] <maduser> ah
[07:14] <maduser> but it was really primitive?
[07:14] <Xcell> I had 12 mhz in 96.
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> still better than windows at the time though
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> Xcell: lol
[07:15] <Xcell> he he
[07:15] <Xcell> 286
[07:15] <maduser> 95 was when windows was still....
[07:16] <maduser> usable?
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> i drink too much, i have trouble remembering this morning
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[07:17] <Xcell> lol
[07:17] <maduser> thats bad
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[07:17] <Xcell> hiccup!
[07:17] <maduser> blackout
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> whats worse is when I have an external hard-drive filled with 5 years worth of logs
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> cause my memory is so bad
[07:17]  * sub[t]rnl pops a top
[07:17] <Xcell> lol  5 yrs of logs
[07:18]  * maduser waits til he can drink
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> when you start having to grep your ~/.bash_history, you know its getting bad
[07:18] <Xcell> sips tennesse 190 proof.
[07:18] <maduser> are you trying to kill yourself?
[07:19] <northpunk> my desktop started to load and then... goes white with nothing but a curser in front of it... restarted a few times but i couldn't get it working normal again with out removing xserver-xgl
[07:21] <purpleposeidon> sub[t]rnl: It can't be too bad.... you still know know about ~.bash_history , right?
[07:21] <sub[t]rnl> +1 purpleposeidon
[07:21] <northpunk> when i ran the ps grep thing from alt f2.. i got a few lins of numbers
[07:21] <northpunk> but like i siad... my desktop screen would go straight white when i tried to log on
[07:21] <northpunk> or after it loaded rather
[07:22] <sub[t]rnl> you running gutsy?
[07:22] <sub[t]rnl> this sounds like an old mesalib bug
[07:22] <maduser> the curcial question
[07:23] <northpunk> so more input would be greatly appreciated
[07:23] <sub[t]rnl> you first
[07:24] <sub[t]rnl> what version of kubuntu are you running?
[07:24] <northpunk> kubuntu gutsy gibbon
[07:24] <northpunk> so 7.10
[07:25] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[07:25] <sub[t]rnl> not sure broseph
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> i've never had a problem installing on nvidia cards
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> ati is another story
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> lspci |grep VGA
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> says what?
[07:26] <maduser> i use ati ad had no problems
[07:26] <northpunk> my bigest problem WAS getting my invidia driver to install
[07:27] <northpunk> but compiz website has a GREAT tuturial on installing nvidia, radiun, or intel
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> maduser: you using the current driver they put out?
[07:27] <northpunk> NOTHING on using kde
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> compiz wasn't made for kde
[07:28] <northpunk> but you guys are telling me that i can get this to run on kde when i said i should just try installing gnome again..
[07:28] <northpunk> no one is telling me how to get emerald to work insead as was suggested
[07:28] <northpunk> was suggested.. but not assisted
[07:28] <sub[t]rnl> emerald is a window decorator for compiz
[07:28] <northpunk> that has been stated as well
[07:29] <sub[t]rnl> ok, thats i'm not telling you how to get emerald to work
[07:29] <sub[t]rnl> thats why
[07:29] <sub[t]rnl> need compiz to work before we worry about window decorations
[07:30] <northpunk> but someone says compiz won't work with kubuntu
[07:30] <maduser> but doesn't his problem include the matacty themes?
[07:30] <sub[t]rnl> no one said that
[07:30] <maduser> ah
[07:30] <northpunk> and they also said i don't have to use gnome
[07:30] <northpunk> so i am hearing 2 things neither help
[07:31] <northpunk> i should try vista :S
[07:31] <maduser> I the past if i had a problem i would google it
[07:32] <maduser> I never had to use the chat room for help
[07:32] <northpunk> i have been using google, ubuntuforums, kubuntuforums, and msn messanger for the last 6 hours now
[07:32] <northpunk> not one tetorial has helped
[07:32] <northpunk> wow my head hurts
[07:34] <eltoro> northpunk : it worked for me but it slowed down my laptop, whick runned compiz and emerald well on ubuntu
[07:34] <maduser> you know you don't have to use compiz
[07:35] <maduser> its just eyecandy
[07:35] <eltoro> i uninstalled it
[07:35] <maduser> cool
[07:35] <eltoro> yeah but it's much fun show it to your frinds who use vista
[07:35] <eltoro> hehe
[07:35] <maduser> thats the only reason i have it
[07:36] <eltoro> they're like whick windows is it
[07:36] <eltoro> haha
[07:36] <maduser> are there things to wory about if you update your video card?
[07:37] <eltoro> im not a really advanced user but i dont you'd have probs
[07:37] <eltoro> try to google the name of your card with kubuntu problems bla bla if you dont find anything go ahead
[07:38] <maduser> like form a really old ati to a new ati card]
[07:41] <n1ghtm4r3_> test
[07:47] <n1ghtm4r3_> anyone still on lol?
[07:48] <gadren_> uh, hi
[07:48] <sub[t]rnl> yo
[07:50] <eltoro> maduser like i said google it if people had problems
[07:50] <eltoro> you'll see it
[07:50] <eltoro> yo
[07:54] <n1ghtm4r3_> whee ..
[07:54] <n1ghtm4r3_> tought my conection was dieying on me again
[07:54] <eltoro> no there's not a lot of activity here at 3am et
[07:54] <eltoro> haha
[08:26] <posingaspopular> yea im here
[08:26] <posingaspopular> not really paying attention though
[08:29] <n1ghtm4r3_> OMG
[08:29] <n1ghtm4r3_> peoples are alive!
[08:29] <n1ghtm4r3_> !afk
[08:29] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[08:30] <n1ghtm4r3_> cool
[08:31] <posingaspopular> n1ghtm4r3_: that's why there are offtopic chans
[08:31] <n1ghtm4r3_> posingaspopular: yah but im a newbee to IRC's too .. im usualy a IM user
[08:32] <posingaspopular> ah yea i was new to IRC a year ago
[08:32] <posingaspopular> now i have irc, IM, gmail chat open..
[08:34] <hatter> what is the name of the low latency kernel for use with audio ?
[08:38] <n1ghtm4r3_> hatter: uh?
[08:39] <n1ghtm4r3_> hatter: i have no idea what your asking .. you want a good program to listen to music?
[08:41] <n1ghtm4r3_> mh anyone know what is the X Window ?
[08:45] <hatter> n1ghtm4r3_, to run rosegarden a low latency kernel is needed
[08:46] <n1ghtm4r3_> hatter: what is rosegarden (dont mind me , im a Kubnoobto)
[08:46] <hatter> n1ghtm4r3_, rosegarden is a midi sequencing program
[08:47] <n1ghtm4r3_> hatter: Oooooh then maybe you should consider Ubuntu Studios
[08:48] <hatter> n1ghtm4r3_, yep, thats it, i just installed it , the kernel related is 1.6.22-14-rt
[08:48] <hatter> '2.6.22-14-rt'
[08:48] <hatter> time to reboot, hope it worked :)
[08:53] <arrrghhh> hey all
[08:54] <arrrghhh> so i have this interesting problem on reboot... alsamixer's master volume always goes way low, and i have to turn it up every time the computer is restarted.  is there any way to have it save the master voluem?
[09:06] <vzduch> arrrghhh: sudo alsactl store
[09:17] <arrrghhh> vzduch: ok i'm going to reboot...
[09:20] <arrrghhh> vzduch: that didn't work...
[09:20] <arrrghhh> i didn't have this issue in xfce.
[09:23] <mikkael> i want prevent a specific package from updating. i can do this in synaptic, but how does adept_updater know that it shouldnt update that package ?
[09:27] <arrrghhh> i don't know if you can with adept...
[09:27] <Kite_DH> i need sum help here... how can i upgrade to 7.10
[09:27] <Kite_DH> i got feisty rightnow
[09:28] <arrrghhh> fire up a terminal
[09:28] <Kite_DH> running
[09:28] <arrrghhh> sudo update-manager -d
[09:29] <arrrghhh> woah... it's offering me hardy already?  i didn't realize i had THOSE repos on... sheesh
[09:30] <mikkael> adept is a front end for aptitude, right ?
[09:30] <arrrghhh> either that or apt-get... i don't remember
[09:31] <arrrghhh> it's a gui for APT
[09:31] <arrrghhh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager
[09:31] <mikkael> so it should be possible to keep a specific version?
[09:31] <mikkael> via terminal ..
[09:32] <arrrghhh> sure?  i dunno.
[09:32] <Kite_DH> arrrghhh: it says some packagerepos are deaktivated
[09:32] <Kite_DH> is that a problem??
[09:33] <arrrghhh> no
[09:33] <arrrghhh> you can reactivate after the dist-upgrade
[09:34] <mikkael> from apt-get manpage: --no-upgrade: Do not upgrade packages; When used in conjunction with install, no-upgrade will prevent packages on the command line from being upgraded if they are already installed. so "sudo apt-get install --no-upgrade openarena-data" would do this job ?
[09:35] <arrrghhh> i'd say so
[09:35] <arrrghhh> try it
[09:36] <Kite_DH> Canonical Ltd. no longer provides support for the following software packages. You can still get support from the community.
[09:36] <Kite_DH> it says
[09:37] <Kite_DH> arrrghhh: you mean, if the upgrade is done, i should just update my packages?
[09:38] <mikkael> maybe some packages moved from main to universe or whatever
[09:38] <Kite_DH> oh, well...
[09:38] <mikkael> universe and multiverse are not officially supported
[09:38] <Kite_DH> after the upgrade is done, i have to run "dist-upgrade" right?
[09:38] <mikkael> as far as i know
[09:38] <arrrghhh> uh i don't think that's necessary
[09:38] <arrrghhh> update-manager -d is the same thing
[09:38] <Kite_DH> oh, aight
[09:38] <Kite_DH> never used the update-manager
[09:38] <arrrghhh> sorry, i'm used to xfce
[09:38] <Kite_DH> it downloads the upgrade now
[09:39] <arrrghhh> i forgot the apt-get way...
[09:39] <arrrghhh> yea the update-manager way is the easiest imo
[09:39] <Kite_DH> 1343 packages
[09:39] <Kite_DH> nice
[09:40] <arrrghhh> yea if you had done "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it would've done the same thing.  oops.
[09:40] <Kite_DH> lul
[09:40] <Kite_DH> :)
[09:40] <arrrghhh> gotta love linux, they give you 143 ways to skin a cat
[09:40] <Kite_DH> :o?
[09:41] <mikkael> dist-upgrade isnt the same as update-manager -d ?!
[09:41] <mikkael> well dist-upgrade leaves me on gutsy..
[09:41] <Kite_DH> :O
[09:42] <arrrghhh> hrm
[09:42] <arrrghhh> well maybe not.
[09:42] <arrrghhh> i dunno, but i'm positive update-manager -d gets the job done
[09:42] <mikkael> i always update with dist-upgrade
[09:42] <arrrghhh> is it not Kite_DH?
[09:42] <Kite_DH> does its job
[09:42] <mikkael> dist-upgrade will update everything, even if things have to be removed
[09:42] <Kite_DH> 1 hour to go :(
[09:43] <mikkael> safe-upgrade will not remove anything
[09:43] <arrrghhh> at least you're not doing this on dialup
[09:43] <Kite_DH> are you doing this on dialup?
[09:43] <mikkael> but to get to another version 7.04-7.10 or higher, dist-upgrade wont do that
[09:44] <arrrghhh> me?  heck no
[09:44] <arrrghhh> just sayin lol
[09:44] <Kite_DH> heh
[09:46] <mikkael> update-manager isnt installed on my system, is this gnome ?
[09:46] <arrrghhh> i'm on kubuntu
[09:46] <arrrghhh> kde
[09:46] <Kite_DH> me too
[09:46] <mikkael> hehe maybe i should reinstall kubuntu-desktop :P
[09:46] <arrrghhh> the original install on this system was xubuntu, but i put kubuntu on it since.
[09:47] <mikkael> update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates
[09:47] <arrrghhh> it's possible it came w/xfce...
[09:48] <mikkael> thats it
[09:48] <arrrghhh> never had gnome on here
[09:48] <mikkael> xubuntu has a lot gnome
[09:48] <arrrghhh> well i don't know how Kite_DH got it
[09:48] <arrrghhh> yea that's true
[09:49] <Kite_DH> i moved from windoze to kubuntu edgy
[09:49] <Kite_DH> long long time ago
[09:49] <Kite_DH> lol
[09:49] <arrrghhh> did you ever have gnome?
[09:49] <Kite_DH> not installed, i checked ubuntu 7.04 out tho...via live-cd
[09:49] <arrrghhh> hrm
[09:49] <mikkael> gtk apps integrate good with kde imo :) but i dont like the file saving/opening dialogs :P
[09:49] <Kite_DH> it was nice, but i love KDE
[09:49] <arrrghhh> i dunno
[09:49] <arrrghhh> yea i prefer kde from the 3 big ones
[09:52] <mikkael> for a good look try: sudo aptitude install kde-style-qtcurve gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[09:56] <ingo_> Hi there - does anybody know how to install a KDE theme *.kth onto a remote Kubuntu box to which I only have command line access?
[09:57] <Chadwick|359> Hey there everybody. The buttons along the bottom of my ktorrent window seem to have disappeared, and I can't seem to find anything in shortcuts or the options menus that will bring them back, anybody have any hints?
[09:58] <mikkael> they come from the module that gives you informations, is this loaded ?
[09:58] <Chadwick|359> Huh, I didn't unload it, how the heck did that happen? Thanks, mikkael.
[10:01] <spawn57> !vmware
[10:01] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:04] <administrator> hello
[10:05] <rafal> hi
[10:08] <lg188> hello , wlorlf
[10:08] <lg188> world*
[10:09] <lg188> howto install auda city
[10:10] <lg188> not command ...
[10:12] <sigma> i finally found a decent video encoder. try kvideoencoder. its seems 2b da only one that works properly
[10:13] <sigma> are the kubuntu tutorial lessons for beginners?
[10:13] <pastulio> im swapping my old agp tnt riva graphics card for a gf5700 on my kubuntu box, will it just work without any trouble or will i have to do anything special first?
[10:15] <sigma> will a 250gb seagate sata drive work fine on kubuntu 7.10 as a secondary hard drive?
[10:15] <sigma> my primary hdd is currently a 80gb seagate sata drive
[10:17] <sigma> anyone there?
[10:51] <plodder> sigma: why shouldn't it?
[10:56] <intrepidlytrite> hey, I've got a webcam question...anyone here?
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> intrepidlytrite: in what way ?
[11:06] <Linux_Galore> wonder why people ask about sata when its just a variant of the normal ide standard
[11:11] <intrepidlytrite> linux_galore, I've got a webcam installed, drivers are loaded, apps recognize it, but I still get black screens only...any idea?
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> intrepidlytrite: nope
[11:13] <intrepidlytrite> linux_galore ok, thanks
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> webcam howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[11:13] <intrepidlytrite> yes, had a look there too
[11:14] <Linux_Galore> intrepidlytrite: some times I find loging out and back in (not a reboot) can make usb devices work better
[11:17] <intrepidlytrite> linux_galore yes, well, I've tried that....do you think it could be a graphics driver issue?
[11:20] <sigma> how do i use firewall builder? everything is greyed out
[11:21] <kiiz> pls where can i find libdvdcss2 needed to play dvds
[11:21] <sigma> kiiz: its in the medibuntu repository
[11:24] <kiiz> is it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory
[11:24] <kiiz> sigma: is it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory
[11:27] <kiiz> sigma: thanks i found it
[11:45] <kiiz> how can i play mp3 in kubuntu.transcoding my collection to .ogg is an overkill
[11:46] <pag> kiiz, install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:46] <Migs-se> hello
[11:46] <Migs-se> about-to-be-new-user-of-Kubuntu here :)
[11:46] <tuxwulf> What's more, not all portable MP3 playeers support oggs
[11:47] <Migs-se> I'm just preparing my PC for it. But in the meantime, I want to get a bit informed. :)
[11:47] <pag> Migs-se, sure. Just ask your question(s) :-)
[11:47] <Migs-se> I've heard that the Linux Media Center is based on Kununtu. If I install Kubuntu 7.04, am I able to download the media ceter specific componets?
[11:47] <Migs-se> *center
[11:48] <Migs-se> *Kubuntu
[11:48] <Migs-se> man, my typo's are nasty
[11:49] <Migs-se> Basically, I just want a non-resource hungry OS to run a media center on to play videos on the hard drive/cd-dvd or stream off the network from a Windows-Based PC.
[11:49] <pag> Migs-se, I'm not sure, but it might be possible, if it's in the repositories
[11:50] <Migs-se> I see
[11:50] <Migs-se> a friend mentioned it uses MythTV for the Media Center aspect
[11:51] <Migs-se> well, I'll find out when I start installing it in about 5 minutes
[11:51] <Migs-se> busy making an image of the hard drive before I start.
[11:52] <pag> Migs-se, at least MythTV is in the repo's... so even if you will not be able to install Media Centre in other way, it still should be manually configurable somehow..
[11:52] <Migs-se> Actually, I'm glad there are people around here today. :)
[11:52] <Migs-se> I see
[11:53] <Migs-se> do you know how large is the download for MythTV?
[11:54] <pag> Migs-se, on my system it says "After unpacking 155MB of additional disk space will be used." but the result may vary a bit in both direcions
[11:54] <kiiz> pag: did't find it in medibuntu repo
[11:55] <pag> kiiz, it's in multiverse
[11:55] <pag> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:55] <Migs-se> Hmm
[11:55] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[11:55] <Migs-se> guess I'll only find out when I start Kubuntu then
[11:55] <Migs-se> thanks anyway pag
[11:56] <Migs-se> busy starting up Kubuntu now
[11:56] <Migs-se> Hmmm
[11:56] <pag> Migs-se, good luck :)
[11:56] <Migs-se> looks like Kubuntu Install is not TV Friendly
[11:56] <Migs-se> getting bad picture of blues and purples
[11:57] <Migs-se> guess I have to hook up a monitor
[11:59] <Migs-se> by the way
[11:59] <Migs-se> is Kubuntu Ati friendly now?
[12:00] <Migs-se> I remember with the older linux distros I used, I could't use an ati card
[12:00] <pag> Migs-se, sure it is - Ati just isn't Linux friedly yet ;P
[12:00] <Migs-se> Hmmm
[12:00] <Migs-se> then I may have a problem with TV Out then
[12:00] <Migs-se> how about Nvidia? I have a 5200 that is't being used
[12:01] <pag> Migs-se, nvidia works great as far as I know :)  (I don't have experience with TV-out though..)
[12:01] <Migs-se> Ah, we have a visual
[12:01] <Migs-se> looks like Kubuntu needs a monitor for installation, heh
[12:02] <Migs-se> I'll try the Nvidia if the Ati fails
[12:05] <Migs-se> righty, this is where I need some real help, heh
[12:05] <Migs-se> I'm at the partition disk space now
[12:05] <Migs-se> I'm thinking of using it all, but can it still be read on a Windows-Based PC?
[12:06] <Kite_DH> Migs-se: yes
[12:07] <Migs-se> so use the guided-use entire space option or guided-use the largest continuous free space?
[12:07] <Migs-se> don't want to make separate partitions, so I rather use all of the free space.
[12:07] <Migs-se> it will be just 1 oS.
[12:09] <kiiz> pag: under what dir is it in.it is not in the x,libx dir
[12:09] <stdin> kiiz: it's a package you install with adept
[12:10] <pag> kiiz, dir? just open konsole, and type "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg "
[12:10] <pag> kiiz, ..or use Adept, if you prefer graphical way
[12:10] <kiiz> i dont have an internet connection!
[12:11] <Migs-se> really?
[12:11] <Migs-se> how are you able to communicate here then?
[12:12] <pag> kiiz, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg <- you can download all the needed packages from here..
[12:12] <kiiz> i am in an internet cafe'. far far from home
[12:13] <Migs-se> and Kubuntu is now formatting my drives
[12:13] <Migs-se> *prays for good luck*
[12:13] <Norgur> stop praying
[12:13] <Norgur> this never helped for me :P
[12:15] <Migs-se> LOL!
[12:15] <Eicca> Is there any playstation emulators for kubuntu?
[12:16] <Migs-se> just curious, but where are you based pag?
[12:16] <Norgur> Eicca, jes there is
[12:16] <Migs-se> Eicca: Ah! thanks for reminding me
[12:16] <Norgur> in repos: pcsx
[12:16] <pag> Migs-se, you mean, which country am I from? I currently live in Finland..
[12:16] <Migs-se> yep, was refering to country.
[12:17] <Migs-se> I Hail from South Africa though
[12:17] <Norgur> ^^
[12:17] <Norgur> <---Germany :P
[12:17] <Migs-se> you poor bastards, heh
[12:17] <Migs-se> I despise the cold
[12:17] <Norgur> well
[12:17] <Norgur> isnt cold at all
[12:18] <Norgur> 15 Degrees Celsius ;)
[12:18] <Migs-se> thats cold, heh
[12:19] <Migs-se> snow is over-rated
[12:19] <Norgur> i never mind
[12:19] <Norgur> no^^
[12:19] <Migs-se> currently 21 degrees celcious over here
[12:19] <Norgur> exactly noone rates this very high at all
[12:20]  * oliver3 stares at Dolphin in Kubuntu
[12:21] <kiiz> pag: do i also have to download links with red bottons
[12:21] <oliver3> I thought Dolphin wasn't going to be the file manager until KDE4?
[12:21] <pag> !dolphin | oliver3
[12:21] <ubotu> oliver3: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[12:21] <oliver3> <_<
[12:22] <oliver3> But why? xD
[12:22] <pag> kiiz, I'm not sure if default installation has them already... but it might be a good idea to download them just to be sure
[12:22] <llutz> oliver3: users wished
[12:22] <oliver3> Fair enough.
[12:22] <oliver3> I've just noticed, in Dolphin, on the right there is a little menu.
[12:22] <oliver3> It's there twice.
[12:22] <oliver3> O.o
[12:24] <oliver3> I think I'll stick with Ubuntu as my main OS for now.
[12:24] <oliver3> Can't be doing will silly bugs like that. >_>
[12:24]  * oliver3 sticks his nose up pompously.
[12:24] <oliver3> :P
[12:33] <Linux_Galore> oliver3: dolphin is not finished and I was surprised they set it as the default, I just swap it back to konqueror
[12:35] <Linux_Galore> if you really want to have fun try getting a network scanner working in kubuntu, I gave up and wrote my own program
[12:36] <oliver3> xD
[12:37] <oliver3> Oh my :x
[12:39] <Migs-se> Okay, another question :)
[12:39] <Migs-se> what is the difference between Ati Radeon(fbdev) - Ati Radeon(fglrx) and Ati Radeon(vesa)?
[12:39] <Migs-se> I'm using a Ati Radeon 9250 AGP
[12:40] <Migs-se> there is one that simply says Ati Radeon though
[12:40] <ricanelite> okay, currently right now im using the Gnome desktop, Is it possible that I could have Gnome and Kubuntu because im curious in trying out the KDE Desktop. But I do NOT want to messup my Gnome desktop and its files. Is it possible? If so what is the best way I getting it installing and running?
[12:41] <pag> Migs-se, fbdec is an open ati driver iirc, vesa is generic driver and fglrx is closed-source ati driver.
[12:42] <oliver3> Migs-se, fglrx is the official driver, but I think it's proprietary. vesa is a generic driver and fbdev I'm not sure about.
[12:42] <oliver3> ricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <pag> ricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop and use it with another user - it shouldn't affect your user settings at all that way (iirc it won't affect them even if you run with the same user, but if you want to be 120% sure..:)
[12:42] <Migs-se> hmmm, so which driver do you guys recommend I use?
[12:43] <Migs-se> or try each one until I get tv-out? heh
[12:43] <oliver3> Migs-se, if fglrx wasn't proprietary I would recommend that.
[12:43] <oliver3> But seeing as it is, I can't do that.
[12:43] <ricanelite> i type it on the terminal? and can I use Compiz-Fusion as well with Kubuntu?
[12:43] <pag> Migs-se, start with open one, and the proceed to proprietary... vesa isn't the best option for sure..
[12:43] <Migs-se> okay, thanks
[12:44] <pag> ricanelite, you can use synaptic to install packages if you want
[12:44] <ricanelite> what do I search for kubuntu-deskto
[12:44] <ricanelite> kubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <pag> ricanelite, yup.
[12:45] <ricanelite> what is the latest version? 1.59?
[12:45] <ricanelite> i have gusty
[12:46] <pag> ricanelite, nevermind those version-numbers.
[12:46] <tuxwulf> What are the main advantages of Gutsy over Feisty...?
[12:46] <ricanelite> so thats it?
[12:47] <oliver3> tuxwulf, gusty is newer and has 3D stuff out of the box. It also has a fast user switching feature and numerous other things.
[12:48] <tuxwulf> oliver3: ...oooowwkay... thanks!
[12:48] <oliver3> oh sorry tuxwulf I was talking about Ubuntu.
[12:48] <oliver3> Forgot which channel I'm in for a moment...
[12:48] <tryton> czesc
[12:52] <Migs-se> Okay, this looks bad
[12:52] <Migs-se> mabey I broke Kubuntu already? heh
[12:52] <Migs-se> I restarted the machine with the new video settings and Kubuntu is not loading
[12:53] <matttis> how do I submit a bug report for the kde panel ? Whats the name of this program ?
[12:53] <pag> Migs-se, Kubuntu, or a graphical mode?
[12:53] <Migs-se> I getthe Kubuntu logo at startup, but then it disappears. now I nothing
[12:53] <pag> matttis, 'kicker'
[12:53] <Migs-se> *Now i have nothing
[12:53] <lascar> if one has a machine with Core Duo processor(s), could he use the AMD64 images to install Kubuntu?
[12:53] <pag> Migs-se, ctrl+alt+F1 should get you to the command line
[12:54] <Migs-se> at command line now
[12:54] <pag> lascar, yes, he could, but I still think, taht 32bit would be easier..
[12:54] <Migs-se> what do I do now?
[12:54] <lascar> pag: how so?
[12:54] <pag> Migs-se, " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " will get you the configuration dialog, in which you can choose a different driver
[12:54] <oliver3> Migs-se, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xoth
[12:54] <dreaming> migs-se: does it drop you at a prompt?
[12:54] <oliver3> Migs-se, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg *
[12:55] <oliver3> Migs-se, without the *
[12:55] <niko__> hi to all
[12:55] <oliver3> Hi to niko__
[12:55] <niko__> where is the konversation config file?
[12:55] <oliver3> :)
[12:55] <Migs-se> at the moment, it's trying to login
[12:55] <dreaming> I had a similar problem and fixed it with sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[12:55] <niko__> i wanna to backup it
[12:55] <pag> lascar, well.. ie. Flash is (or at least was) far easier to install in 32bit system.. same goes for Skype.
[12:55] <pag> niko__, ~./kde/share/config/konversationrc  iirc :)
[12:55] <Migs-se> when I type the password, I don't see what is being typed until I press enter. then I can see what is being typed
[12:55] <lascar> (i'm a heavy Skype user...)
[12:55] <dreaming> the automatic nvidia drivers dont like me
[12:55] <Migs-se> but it kickes me out saying its incorrect
[12:56] <niko__> thnx
[12:56] <lascar> pag: but difficult is not synonymous with impossible.  Surely there are ways around it?
[12:56] <madprobe> hi! at boot time when screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and display only comes back just before KDM shows up. Someone please tell me the solution for this
[12:56] <dreaming> thats pretty normal migs, its to stop people guessing how many characters are in your password
[12:56] <madprobe> hi! at boot time the* screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and display only comes back just before KDM shows up. Someone please tell me the solution for this
[12:56] <dreaming> you can still type
[12:56] <pag> Migs-se, just type your user password - passwd not supposed to be seen
[12:56] <oliver3> Migs-se, that's normal, except kicking you out.
[12:56] <Migs-se> I got it now
[12:56] <dreaming> :)
[12:56] <Migs-se> it does't show you the password as you type it
[12:56] <Migs-se> weirdness
[12:56] <Migs-se> anyway
[12:57] <dreaming> it makes sense if you think about it :-)
[12:57] <pag> lascar, yes.. you *could* install 32bit libs on your 64bit system, the do a littel command-line magic and so on.. it *can* be done, but it can get messy
[12:57] <Migs-se> going to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now
[12:57] <dreaming> i hate compiz
[12:57] <madprobe> would someone please help me in my problem?
[12:57] <pag> lascar, there are instructions on the forums for that
[12:57] <lascar> pag: i'll keep that in mind.  Know any good wardriving apps?
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> lascar- yeah, there are ways to get everything working on a 64-bit install, but unless you have more than 4 GB of memory, you probably won't notice any performance increase with a 64-bit install anyway
[12:58] <lascar> ah.
[12:58] <niko__> so
[12:58] <madprobe> At boot time the* screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and display only comes back just before KDM shows up. Someone please tell me the solution for this
[12:58] <niko__> if i do an new installation on an other pc...
[12:58] <pag> madprobe, but KDM shows up just fine and everything works after?
[12:58] <niko__> this config make two konverstion same configured?
[12:59] <niko__> (i'm italian, forgive my english)
[12:59] <madprobe> pag: oh, i was beginning to think that may be there is some prob in my pidgin and noone can see my msg. coz chatting in pidgin first time
[12:59] <Migs-se> righty
[12:59] <Migs-se> it asked me to give a name for the video card, which I did
[12:59] <pag> niko__, it should, yes
[12:59] <niko__> okiz
[12:59] <niko__> i try
[13:00] <Migs-se> and now, its talking about people that have multiple video cards, which I don't have
[13:00] <niko__> thnx a lot and enjoy yuor time!
[13:00] <Migs-se> there is a OK section, but pressing enter does nothing
[13:00] <Migs-se> what now?
[13:00] <madprobe> pag: yes, display comes back just b4 KDM was going to come, first thing to see after booting from grub is the mouse cursor as a circle, display goes blank in between for 1-2 mins
[13:00] <pag> Migs-se, use space instead of enter
[13:01] <Migs-se> space does nothing either
[13:01] <matttis> KDE-Bugreporting: Are the backtrace data of interest for the bug report ?
[13:01] <pag> Migs-se, which step exactly?
[13:01] <Migs-se> sorry if I seem like an idiot, but this is totally new to me
[13:02] <Migs-se> third step I think?
[13:02] <Migs-se> first was select chipset of video card, second was name the video card (type it in) and now I'm in the third step
[13:02] <Migs-se> where it mentions about people that use multiple video cards to type in the busID address
[13:02] <pag> madprobe, if I understood you right, you could just disable splash from boot-options
[13:03] <madprobe> after grub menu, the next thing i see is KDM screen, screen goes complete blank in between for a long time of abt 1-2 mins. i dont know the reason for such a long time too as screen is blank during that time
[13:03] <Migs-se> guess I have to re-install Kubuntu, heh
[13:04] <madprobe> pag: i've disabled the quite option from menu.lst, but havnt removed splash
[13:04] <madprobe> removing quite didnt helped
[13:05] <lascar> !war driving
[13:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about war driving - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: just leave that field blank
[13:05] <madprobe> pag: i will reboot after removing splash option. then i will be back again. thanks for the ray of hope
[13:05] <pag> Migs-se, hmm.. strange - I can't recall having such step myself
[13:05] <Migs-se> there is no place to type it in though nosrednaekim
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: thats ok... just skip that step.
[13:05] <Migs-se> only option is the OK
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> press ok
[13:05] <Migs-se> but pressing enter or space does nothing
[13:06] <nosrednaekim> press tab once
[13:06] <nosrednaekim> and then hit space
[13:06] <Migs-se> that did the trick, heh
[13:06] <Migs-se> now it's asking for the Video Cards Bus identifier. which is already filled in.
[13:06] <Migs-se> which is PCI:1:0:0
[13:07] <Migs-se> press enter to continue?
[13:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[13:07] <Migs-se> righty
[13:07] <nosrednaekim> anything you don't have a clue about, just continue
[13:08] <Migs-se> now it's asking for the amount of memory to be used by the video card in kilobytes
[13:08] <Migs-se> type ina figure or leave it blank?
[13:08] <nosrednaekim> leave it blank
[13:09] <Migs-se> Use Kernal Framebuffer Device Interface? options are Yes or No.
[13:09] <nosrednaekim> yes
[13:09] <Migs-se> thanks for taking me step-by-step in this by the way
[13:10] <nosrednaekim> yeah, this is one baffling dialog... I think thre is a way to cut out the uneccesary steps..but Iforget how.
[13:12] <Migs-se> okay, went through the entire dialoge now
[13:12] <pag> nosrednaekim, you mean -phigh option?
[13:12] <Migs-se> and it's back to the dos prompt
[13:12] <Migs-se> restart the PC>
[13:12] <Migs-se> restart the PC?
[13:12] <nosrednaekim> pag: ah.... yes
[13:12] <madprobe> pag: removing splash option did its job
[13:12] <madprobe> pag: thanks dude
[13:12] <pag> madprobe, np :)
[13:12] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: ok, no, run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[13:13] <pag> Migs-se, command  ' startx '  hsould do the job
[13:13] <nosrednaekim> pag: starting up kdm is reccomended because it provides for a clean log out and shut-down
[13:13] <Migs-se> and I'm back to graphical Kubuntu
[13:13] <nosrednaekim> without more command-line sorcery :D
[13:14] <madprobe> i'm unable to do everything from my keyboard, coz tab doesnt stops on list controls. i've to always use my mouse to select option from some list control. is there some problem in my theme or window style? i am using default theme and window style.
[13:14] <pag> madprobe, you could also remove splash from def-options - that way grub won't add it to every new kernel.
[13:14] <pag> nosrednaekim, oh, ok :-)
[13:15] <lascar> thanx again
[13:15] <Migs-se> how do I shutdown Kubuntu? I see no option to do so. Just log off, which takes you back to the command prompt.
[13:15] <madprobe> pag: where are the def-options defined?
[13:15] <StevenR> madprobe: poweroff ?
[13:15] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: "sudo shutdown -r now"
[13:15] <nosrednaekim> that will probably reboot
[13:15] <pag> madprobe, in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:16] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: did X work?
[13:16] <Migs-se> it restarted
[13:16] <Migs-se> but I switched off the machine when it restarted
[13:17] <pag> madprobe, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst  and there look for the line that says osmething like "# defoptions=quiet splash"
[13:17] <Migs-se> wanted to plug in my TV to see if it works
[13:17] <Migs-se> and it does't. nasty
[13:17] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: ok.
[13:17] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: oh.. it'll probably works with some work :D
[13:18] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead
[13:18] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[13:18] <Migs-se> back to the monitor then
[13:18] <Migs-se> and try a different driver
[13:18] <ciacon> !ipod
[13:18] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[13:18] <Migs-se> I plan to only use a TV by the way. not have dual head
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: ah....well, what are you using? s-video?
[13:21] <Migs-se> wow
[13:21] <Migs-se> Kubuntu is broken. again
[13:21] <Migs-se> getting no visual on the monitor after Kubuntu loading screen is gone
[13:21] <Migs-se> monitor reports no input from the PC
[13:21] <Migs-se> re-install Kubuntu? heh
[13:21] <Migs-se> nosrednaekim: RCA
[13:22] <Migs-se> so, for now, I'll re-install Kubuntu
[13:22] <Migs-se> mabey I'll have better luck with a Nvidia card?
[13:22] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: nah... don't reinstall, go to "ctrl+alt+f1"
[13:22] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: what graphics card are you using?
[13:22] <Migs-se> bacl to the command prompt
[13:23] <Migs-se> using a Ati Radeon 9250
[13:23] <Migs-se> the 128mb AGP model
[13:23] <Migs-se> the Nvidia I have is a Geforce 5200 128mb AGP
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: tv-out will only work on that card with the officail ATI driver. and lol, not sure that the official driver even supports that card any more.
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: I definately go with the nvidia.
[13:24] <Migs-se> Okay, will try Nvidia then
[13:24] <jussi01> Migs-se: I have exactly that ati!
[13:24] <jussi01> works perfectly
[13:24] <jussi01> stupid netsplits... sigh
[13:24] <Migs-se> so, what do I do now at the dos prompt?
[13:24] <Migs-se> shut it down and pop on the nvidia or continue using the ati?
[13:25] <Migs-se> jussi01, I'm trying to get TV-Out in Kubuntu with the card
[13:25] <Migs-se> did you get yours working in tv-out?
[13:25] <jussi01> Migs-se: ahh... that nasty one. I have never got it to work
[13:25] <Migs-se> I see
[13:25] <jordinateur> I've an error while I tried to launch nvidia.run : NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[13:25] <Migs-se> then I'll pop in the Nvidia then
[13:25] <jordinateur> what does it means ?
[13:25] <jussi01> Migs-se: I would reccomend that
[13:26] <Migs-se> do I need to reinstall Kubuntu when I put in the Nvidia card?
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: run that command again " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" select the vesa driver when you get to that page.
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> jordinateur: something wrong with that shel script
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | jordinateur
[13:26] <ubotu> jordinateur: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: nope.
[13:26] <tony__> Hello, como andan
[13:27] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: run that command I just said, which should put the computer into generic graphics mode. then swap in the nvidia
[13:27] <jordinateur> ubotu: I can't access the internet with ubuntu, i just can connect and open "konversation"
[13:27] <nosrednaekim> or you could swap in the nvidia first
[13:28] <Migs-se> doing that now nosrednaekim, changing to vesa mode.
[13:28] <nosrednaekim> k
[13:28] <jordinateur> nosrednaekim: What's wrong ? What can i do ?
[13:28] <Migs-se> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg just sends me a list of proper command usage
[13:29] <madprobe> pag: where are the def-options
[13:29] <pag> jordinateur, so konversation works, but other apps do not?
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: ah... well then just run the whole dialog with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[13:30] <pag> madprobe, in /boot/grub/menu.lst on line that says something like "# defoptions=quiet splash"
[13:30] <jordinateur> pag: Hum I think it's a problem of config with konqueror ;p But I don't know what and for the moment, the problem is why i've an error with nvidia.run...
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> jordinateur: use the restriced-manager to unstall your drivers.
[13:31] <pag> jordinateur, no idea about nvidia.run... I have an idea about what's wrong with your net, though.
[13:31] <jordinateur> pag: What is your idea ?
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> *install
[13:31] <jordinateur> nosrednaekim: Okay i'll try ;p
[13:32] <madprobe> pag: right now it is #defoptions=quite splash. what will it be after i would remove the quite and splash options? defoptions=""?
[13:32] <pag> jordinateur, if you don't happen to use knetworkmanager, the alt+f2 -> " killall knetworkmanager "  and all should be fine
[13:32] <madprobe> pag: or should i remove the whole defoptions line
[13:32] <madprobe> ?
[13:32] <pag> madprobe, don't remove the whole line!
[13:33] <madprobe> pag: then to what will i write on the right side of =?
[13:33] <Migs-se> now popping in the Nvidia card
[13:33] <pag> madprobe, I see no reason to remove quiet, so you could leve it.. but if you don't want to keep it, the just leave the right side of = empty
[13:33] <Migs-se> goodbye faithfull ati card *sniff*
[13:33] <edi> hi,how can i change the rights of a mounted partition? only root can write, and i want to have write access as normal user.
[13:33] <Xcell> lol
[13:33] <madprobe> pag: ok dude, thanks once again :)
[13:33] <nosrednaekim> !mount | edi
[13:33] <ubotu> edi: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[13:34] <pag> madprobe, you'll have to run " sudo updeate-grub " after you've commited the changes
[13:34] <pag> madprobe, " sudo update-grub " that is :-)
[13:35] <madprobe> pag: one thing more, in my gentoo system, i keep it the grub.conf so lean and mean, there are just 3-4 lines in it, but in kubuntu it seems like i will damage my system even if i remove commented lines :(
[13:35] <jordinateur> pag: I've already find this problem : my local network was the problem, and i've ddisconnect the cable but it's not the problem for konqueror( sorry i'm french and 15 and i've not a good english ^^)
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[13:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:36] <nosrednaekim> if you want....
[13:36] <Migs-se> card is in and starting up the PC
[13:36] <Migs-se> Kubuntu is now loading
[13:36] <Migs-se> we have a visual on the monitor
[13:36] <pag> madprobe, I'm not that familiar with menu.lst, so I would know which lines are safe to remove.. so if you don't have to, don't remove any :)
[13:37] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: cool....cool
[13:37] <Migs-se> Kubuntu is loaded
[13:37] <madprobe> pag: yup, u r right
[13:37] <Migs-se> so, what now? shutdown and try the tv-out?
[13:37] <Migs-se> or change some settings first?
[13:38] <Migs-se> it's in vesa mode at the moment
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: you'll need to install the nvidia driver for sure.
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> use the restricted-manager in systemsettings
[13:39] <madprobe> my tab isnt stopping on list controls, so i am forced to use mouse to select a value from the list control. is it due to my theme? which is default one
[13:39] <pag> jordinateur, I only know, that KNetworkManager has caused problems with Konqueror on pretty many systems - I'm not sure, if that's the hase on your system, but I thing disabling knetworkmanager is a tryworthy option :-)
[13:39] <madprobe> i mean i want to use ctrl-down to select a value from a list, but i am unable to do so
[13:40] <toan> bonjour
[13:41] <jussi01> !fr | toan
[13:41] <ubotu> toan: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:41] <toan> merci
[13:42] <Migs-se> busy using konqueror to check the nvidia website for the driver
[13:42] <Migs-se> for OS, choose Linux 32-bit?
[13:43] <jussi01> !ati | Migs-se
[13:43] <ubotu> Migs-se: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:43] <Migs-se> so not a good idea to download the driver direct from Nvidia then?
[13:43] <madprobe> how can i open items in system tray using my keyboard?
[13:43] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: no no... use the restricted-manager... it'll do it automatically
[13:44] <Migs-se> but, where is it? I can't find it in system settings
[13:45] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: under "advanced
[13:45] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: its just harder and more error-prone
[13:46] <Migs-se> "As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System ? Administration ? Restricted Devices Manager."
[13:46] <Migs-se> tryed that and its not there either
[13:46] <jussi01> Migs-se: thats ubuntu...
[13:46] <jussi01> Migs-se: go to system settings, click advanced and then restrcted drivers
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: thats for ubuntu... just run "restricted-manager-kde" from the commandline and that should get ya there.
[13:48] <Migs-se> okay, now for the next stupid question
[13:48] <Migs-se> where is the commandline?
[13:48] <madprobe> how can i open items in system tray using my keyboard?
[13:48] <Eicca> how come my fps sucks in gta san andreas? how could I improve it? (im using wine)
[13:49] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: menu->system->konsole
[13:49] <Migs-se> thanks nosrednaekim
[13:49] <edi> ok, i dont get it... how can i change this: " /daten ext3 defaults 0 2"  in fstab so that not just root have write acces?
[13:50] <Migs-se> nosrednaekim: I get 'command not found'
[13:50] <privet> Migs-se: ALT-F2 and enter xterm is what I use
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> edi: you should use the disk and partitions manager in systemsettings->advanced
[13:50] <privet> madprobe: how do you mean "open"?
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: are you running gutsy?
[13:50] <Migs-se> what is gutsy?
[13:51] <privet> and madprobe is gone...
[13:51] <toan>  how to install flash in konqueror?
[13:51] <edi> but what option do i have to change?
[13:51] <jussi01> !gutsy | Migs-se
[13:51] <ubotu> Migs-se: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[13:51] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: version of Kubuntu... the latest
[13:51] <Migs-se> I'm using Kubuntu 7.04
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: ah... I see, then run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[13:52] <DerEddie> hi guys. i'm right here if i'm searching for help with kubuntu, right?
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> and then run "kdesu restricted-manager"
[13:52] <jussi01> !ask | DerEddie
[13:52] <ubotu> DerEddie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> DerEddie: generally ;)
[13:52] <DerEddie> ok thx :)
[13:52] <edi> nosrednaekim: what option do i have to change?
[13:52] <Migs-se> we have an error, nosrednaekim
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: which is...
[13:53] <Migs-se> E: COudl't Find Package restricted is what I get now
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> "restricted-manager"
[13:53] <Migs-se> woops
[13:54] <Migs-se> wait
[13:54] <Migs-se> I did type it in correctly
[13:54] <DerEddie> ok... so i'm using kubuntu gutsy gibbon and when i'm trying to use the adept manager it gives me the following error:
[13:54] <DerEddie> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[13:54] <edi> nosrednaekim: change the mountpointrights?
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[13:54] <jussi01> !aptfix | DerEddie
[13:54] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:54] <ubotu> DerEddie: please see above
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> edi: change who can mount it.
[13:55] <edi> nosrednaekim: to?
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> anyone.
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> all users can mount and unmount
[13:55] <madprobe> someone please tell me how to access system tray icons using KB?
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> madprobe: unless you do mouse emulation with the numpad... you can't
[13:56] <madprobe> oh
[13:56] <madprobe> and how can i change my list value from a list form in a window using keyboard? tab doesnt seem to stop there
[13:56] <madprobe> and how can i change my list value from a list control* in a window using keyboard? tab doesnt seem to stop there
[13:59] <DerEddie> ubotu: I tried "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" but there is still the same error when i try to start adept manager
[14:00] <DerEddie> oh
[14:00] <DerEddie> xD
[14:00] <edi> nosrednaekim: do i have to reboot or something?
[14:00] <jussi01> !bot | DerEddie:
[14:00] <ubotu> DerEddie:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:00] <jussi01> :D
[14:00] <DerEddie> lol
[14:00] <DerEddie> :D
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> DerEddie: you have to be root...
[14:00] <Migs-se> okay
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> to run adept
[14:00] <madprobe> and how can i change my list value from a list control* in a window using keyboard? tab doesnt seem to stop there
[14:00] <Migs-se> I triple checked and I have spelled it correctly
[14:00] <Migs-se> I have no idea what I am doing wrong
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> edi: no... you should just be able to actuvate the partition from within that tool
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: heh.... run "sudo apt-get update"
[14:01] <DerEddie> i have to be root?
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> DerEddie: or at least be using "kdesudo"
[14:02] <Migs-se> update is done
[14:02] <Migs-se> so what now?
[14:03] <edi> nosrednaekim: i have set the options and its activated, but i still cant write..
[14:03] <DerEddie> hm. when i do "K-Menu -> System -> Adept Manager" it should normally work, or not?
[14:03] <jack_> salut salut
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: sorry, got discconnected...
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> did you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[14:05] <Migs-se> yes and its done
[14:06] <jussi01> !fr | jack_
[14:06] <ubotu> jack_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:06] <Migs-se> but I need to remove a hard drive from that system
[14:06] <Migs-se> and restart my PC
[14:06] <Migs-se> so will BRB
[14:06] <Migs-se> thank you for the help so far.
[14:06] <Migs-se>  :)
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se:don't restart!
[14:06] <Migs-se> can't I shutdown?
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> there is no need...
[14:06] <Migs-se> okay
[14:06] <Migs-se> well, I'm shutting down *this* pc
[14:07] <Migs-se> so will be *right back*
[14:07] <nosrednaekim> oh... ok :D
[14:07] <edi> nosrednaekim: do i have to change any other option?
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> edi: I don't think so....
[14:09] <edi> nosrednaekim: is maybe the montpoint wrong? its just "/daten"
[14:10] <nosrednaekim> edi: thats fine.
[14:10] <nosrednaekim> edi: is it an internal drive?
[14:10] <edi> nosrednaekim: yes
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> edi: did you turn on "enable at startup"?
[14:11] <edi> nosrednaekim: yes
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> k
[14:11] <edi> nosrednaekim: its hda3 and activated
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> but only root can look at it?
[14:12] <edi> nosrednaekim: no, only root can write, i can browse it as normal user
[14:13] <edi> nosrednaekim: its ext3
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> edi ah.... interesting.
[14:14] <edi> nosrednaekim: lol, sry dont know whats maybe good to know
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> edi: so you can read anything, but can't write anything?
[14:15] <edi> yes.
[14:16] <edi> it should be my music base and its annoying to be root everytime i want to copy or edit something
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> edi: hrm, I don't have a clue.... you could try doing "sudo chmod -R a+x <mount point>"
[14:17] <edi> nosrednaekim: but that wont delete anything on that partition?
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> edi: nope.
[14:18] <edi> nosrednaekim: just to be clear, thats i have to type :"sudo chmod -R a+x /daten"  ?
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> edi: actually, make that "sudo chmod -R a+xw /daten"
[14:19] <edi> im gonna try
[14:20] <llutz> edi: use chown to change ownership to a group your user is in
[14:20] <edi> ohh.. it seems to work :)
[14:20] <edi> chown?
[14:21] <llutz> chown (1)            - change file owner and group
[14:21] <Migs-se> and I am back
[14:21] <Migs-se> nosrednaekim, update is done
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> thats definately not permanant though
[14:22] <Migs-se> what should I do next?
[14:22] <llutz> nosrednaekim: what? chown on ext3? it IS permanent
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> llutz: I mean chmod
[14:22] <llutz> sure it is too
[14:23] <edi> llutz: so i have to type : chown /daten?
[14:23] <kdehelp> how can I check for the sound hardware and install it once I know what it is?  I have a new Toshiba satalite laptop
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> llutz: even over multiple remounts?
[14:24] <llutz> edi: chown -R root:<a group your user is member in> /daten
[14:24] <llutz> nosrednaekim: sure, who should change permissions? its a unix-filesystem
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> !sound | kdehelp
[14:24] <ubotu> kdehelp: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:24] <aro> Does anyone know of any packages I need to install to enable DVD playback direct from a DVD drive in Kaffeine?
[14:24] <Downix2k> hello everyone
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | kdehelp
[14:24] <ubotu> kdehelp: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[14:24] <Downix2k> trying to find the sshd to turn on so I can unplug the monitor to this machine
[14:25] <aro> !dvd
[14:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:25] <Jimnastics_> problem to config snort,having 'no using pcap_frame' error, i ve winpcap installed,i m tryin windows ver
[14:26] <llutz> Jimnastics_: winpcap?? why not  libpcap
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: did it work this time?
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> Downix2k: its in the package "openssh-server" I believe
[14:27] <llutz> Jimnastics_: snort depends on libpcap0.8
[14:27] <Jimnastics_> llutz thats for nix
[14:27] <Jimnastics_> iam in xp
[14:27] <Downix2k> also, adept won't unlock once I shut it down
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> !windows
[14:27] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[14:27] <llutz> Jimnastics_: aaah, #windows then
[14:27] <Jimnastics_> k
[14:28] <Downix2k> why would someone wanting windows help come here?
[14:29] <Downix2k> would be akin to showing up for an Amiga convention wanting help with a CoCo
[14:31] <Migs-se> brb. again. sorry nosrednaekim
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: k
[14:32] <edi> thx for ur help nosrednakim and llutz
[14:32] <edi> does this settings still remain after reboot ?
[14:32] <llutz> edi: yes
[14:32] <edi> good :)
[14:32] <edi> bye
[14:32] <Downix2k> ok, now trying a remote login
[14:33] <Downix2k> if this works, I'll be shutting down X
[14:33] <Downix2k> ok, logged in!
[14:33] <Downix2k> shutting down X
[14:37] <TheFuzzball> Does anyone have Flash player working with Konqueror?
[14:37] <TheFuzzball> player 9 I mean :)
[14:38] <kdehelp_> I still dont have sound and video.. I have dnlded flash and firefox says its installed and reboot firefox..I did and still no video..can someone help me with vid and sound'
[14:39] <TheFuzzball> The latest flash works with Firefox, but not Konqueror (which I prefer)
[14:39] <llutz> its a bug in konqueror which prevents usage of flash >.048
[14:39] <TheFuzzball> is there a fix?
[14:39] <llutz> afaik no
[14:39] <TheFuzzball> :'(
[14:40] <Xcell> lol
[14:40] <TheFuzzball> does anyone have the old version of Flash player that worked?
[14:40] <llutz> use the one from the repos
[14:40] <TheFuzzball> I did that
[14:40] <TheFuzzball> It dodn't work
[14:40] <TheFuzzball> didn't*
[14:41] <TheFuzzball> the repo downloads flash player as a .tar.bz2 and installs it, but that file doesn't exist anymore or something cause' the download failed
[14:42] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: working yet?
[14:42] <bjwebb> hi
[14:43] <bjwebb> apturl seems like a cool idea, but uses gnome stuff atm
[14:43] <dreamcoder> is there a program to search usenet nzbs in linux
[14:43] <bjwebb> is there any plan to integrate apturl more into kubuntu (using adept)
[14:45] <bjwebb> emilsedgh: make your mind up
[14:46] <emilsedgh> bjwebb: what?
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: certainly is! go to tonio's PPA on launchpad
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> !newsgroups | dreamcoder
[14:46] <ubotu> dreamcoder: There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[14:47] <TheFuzzball> llutz: http://pastebin.com/d128ec05c
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> dreamcoder: I think akregator can do it.
[14:47] <TheFuzzball> llutz: that's what I get when trying to install flash
[14:47] <llutz> TheFuzzball:  :( never had that, sorry no idea
[14:48] <Jeroi> hello
[14:48] <Jeroi> again
[14:48] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: how would i find ti
[14:48] <Jeroi> finally got flash working
[14:48] <Jeroi> amd64
[14:48] <Jeroi> but
[14:48] <mendred> hi flash is not running on konqueror for amd64, its running fine in firefox...any ideas?
[14:48] <TheFuzzball> This is a fresh install of Kubuntu, if it doesn't work for me then it won't work for any others that install it
[14:48] <mendred> jeroi
[14:48] <Jeroi> is here someone who understand how to build wxwidgets?
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: its on Antony Mercante's Personal Package archive,
[14:48] <mendred> is it working in konqueror?
[14:48] <TheFuzzball> no
[14:49] <Jeroi> firefox atlest
[14:49] <TheFuzzball> it's not!
[14:49] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: yeah, ive found the page now i think
[14:49] <TheFuzzball> :'(
[14:49] <Jeroi> I dont use kongueror
[14:49] <Jeroi> well I test
[14:50] <Jeroi> no
[14:50] <mendred> jeroi: ok thanks
[14:50] <Jeroi> but firefox works like a charm
[14:50] <mendred> yeah same here
[14:50] <TheFuzzball> Firefox is horrible and slow, and GTK :)
[14:50] <TheFuzzball> I want Konqueror!
[14:50] <Jeroi> nobody knows how to build wxwidgets?
[14:50] <Jeroi> as I have done that alrready
[14:51] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: hmm i still use firefox as a browser, so can i get kde apturl frontend thru firefox?
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: this is not the correct channel for that.
[14:51] <Jeroi> yes
[14:51] <Jeroi> I know
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: yeah.... not sure. maybe.
[14:51] <Jeroi> this is why I ask if some one knows then we could discuss in private
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: there is probably a channel just for Wxwidgets
[14:52] <dreamcoder> yea i am using giganews at the moment just wanted a program like alt.binz but i can use alt.binz under wine but now alt.binz are charging for the use of the new version which allows nzb search
[14:52] <Jeroi> yes, but in which network is the problem I guess
[14:52] <bjwebb> #wxwidgets exists
[14:52] <dreamcoder> so was looking for an alternative
[14:52] <Jeroi> thansk
[14:53] <dreamcoder> also a usenet proggy witch can use 256bit encryption
[14:53] <dreamcoder> if possible
[14:53] <yaccin> why doesnt my wacom work anymore?
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> !newsreader
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <dreamcoder> ok thanks
[14:54] <TheFuzzball> does anyone have a copy of flash plugin for linux version 9,0,48.00?
[14:55] <bjwebb> TheFuzzball: i might
[14:55] <TheFuzzball> bjwebb: can you put it on a file sharing site and send me a link?
[14:56] <bjwebb> TheFuzzball: i mean i have it installed
[14:56] <TheFuzzball> yea
[14:56] <bjwebb> install it thru apt
[14:56] <TheFuzzball> bjwebb: just copy the libflashplayer.so for ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:56] <TheFuzzball> bjwebb: It doesn't work
[14:56] <bjwebb> okay
[14:56] <tafsen> Hi
[14:56] <tafsen> Why can't I use fingerprints on mp3 files?  "Fingerprinting of .mp3 files is not supported."
[14:56] <bjwebb> if you're sure you know what ure doing
[14:56] <tafsen> in amarOk
[14:57] <yaccin> why doesnt my wacom work anymore?
[14:58] <llutz> TheFuzzball: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890
[14:58] <TheFuzzball> tafsen: install libtunepimp5-mp3
[14:58] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[14:59] <tafsen> TheFuzzball: Thanks mate :)
[15:00] <TheFuzzball> tafsen: np
[15:01] <ElFlocko> hey guys i have some trouble installing kubuntu 7.10 AMD64. when the x-server starts my displays show "overrange" for a few seconds and after that it jumps back to tty1. i tried different VGA modes and the graphics safe mode. are there any tricks? (video card is an X1950XT
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ElFlocko, X1950XT what brand?
[15:02] <ElFlocko> saphire ati
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> ElFlocko: you might try modfying the xorg driver to be vesa from that command line and then running "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[15:03] <ElFlocko> thanks, i'll try it!
[15:04] <yaccin> why doesnt my wacom work anymore?
[15:04] <llutz> yaccin: define "anymore"
[15:04] <yaccin> llutz: it worked a few weeks ago
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ElFlocko, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to modify 'xorg
[15:05] <soulrider> !xorg
[15:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:07] <ElFlocko> thanks, guys i think that will help me!
[15:10] <tuxwulf> Is there any place I can still download Feisty's ISO?
[15:11] <jussi01> !feisty | tuxwulf
[15:11] <ubotu> tuxwulf: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[15:11] <jussi01> hmmmm
[15:11] <jussi01> thats a little out of date...
[15:11] <tuxwulf> Not there ...
[15:12] <tuxwulf> Dapper and Gutsy only,it seems...
[15:12] <llutz> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[15:14] <PolitikerNEU> Is it possible that kde4 svn is broken the last days in kubuntu?
[15:14] <emilsedgh> PolitikerNEU: i svn up'ed yesterday, just compiled...
[15:15] <Tm_T> MeTa[AwAy]: awaynick?
[15:15] <PolitikerNEU> I use kdesvn-build - can that cause problems?
[15:15] <tuxwulf> llutz: Thanks!
[15:16] <llutz> tuxwulf np, you also can use a mirror more close to you, just change the url
[15:17] <ktosia> hello, in KDE, how to have  alt-tab  going through all windows from all desktops?
[15:18] <MetaMorfoziS> Tm_T > yes
[15:18] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: seen guidelines?
[15:19] <ktosia>  hello, in KDE, how to have  alt-tab  going through all windows from all desktops?
[15:19] <tuxwulf> llutz: Ok.... thanks again!
[15:19] <nyork> ktosia: configure it in system settings -> Computer Administration -> Keyboard & Mouse -> keyboard shortcuts
[15:19] <ktosia> nyork: well it is there, but walking not via ALL desktops
[15:20] <MetaMorfoziS> Tm_T > are you a droid?
[15:20] <Tm_T> yes
[15:20] <MetaMorfoziS> Away humans not allowed here?
[15:20] <Tm_T> !away | MetaMorfoziS
[15:20] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[15:20] <MetaMorfoziS> idiot.
[15:20] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: que?
[15:22] <JohnFlux> ktosia: file a bug report for having that shortcut
[15:23] <PolitikerNEU> these are the errors I get - the problem is: the error messages are in german - is it possible to change the compiler output language to english? http://pastebin.com/d79c8aa64
[15:25] <TheFuzzball> The new flash crashes nspluginviewer
[15:25] <TheFuzzball> http://pastebin.com/d48bbd3e2
[15:26] <TheFuzzball> that's the backtrace
[15:26] <Migs-se> okay
[15:27] <Migs-se> Hmmm
[15:27] <Migs-se> nos is gone
[15:27] <Migs-se> hopefully someone can help me out
[15:27] <Migs-se> last thing Nosmentioned was
[15:27] <Migs-se> [16:22] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[15:27] <Migs-se> which was to download the latest drivers for the nvidia video card
[15:28] <Migs-se> so, where do I type sudo apt-get install restricted-manager again?
[15:28] <jussi01> Migs-se: did it work?
[15:28] <Migs-se> I did the update
[15:28] <Migs-se> but hav't typed that command in yet
[15:28] <Migs-se> and forgot where to do it in
[15:28] <jussi01> menu - system - konsole
[15:28] <jussi01> :)
[15:28] <Migs-se> a friend came by and needed help with his Xbox, thats why I had to pause everyhting
[15:28] <Migs-se> *everything
[15:28] <jussi01> Migs-se: :D
[15:29] <Migs-se> okay, typed that in
[15:29] <Migs-se> it asked for answered and entered it
[15:30] <Migs-se> now it needs to unpack and it's asking me if it should continue
[15:30] <Migs-se> which I'll say yes to now
[15:30] <jussi01> Migs-se: yep
[15:30] <Migs-se> wait, it has to download it?
[15:31] <Migs-se> and it's busy downloading it now
[15:32] <jussi01> !enter | Migs-se
[15:32] <ubotu> Migs-se: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:32] <jussi01> ;)
[15:33] <Migs-se> eh?
[15:34] <Migs-se> okay, the download is done
[15:34] <Migs-se> so what do I do now?
[15:34] <jussi01> Migs-se: and its installed?
[15:35] <Migs-se> supposedly
[15:35] <Migs-se> last line was 'setting up restricted manager (0.20)
[15:35] <Migs-se> and thats it
[15:35] <Migs-se> it's back to the command prompt
[15:35] <jussi01> great
[15:36] <jussi01> Migs-se: do you now have the restricted manager in system settings?
[15:36] <Migs-se> nope
[15:37] <Migs-se> I do hae a Synaptic Package Manager in System though
[15:37] <Migs-se> thats new
[15:37] <Migs-se> *have
[15:37] <jussi01> Migs-se: are you sure its not under advanced?
[15:37] <Migs-se> not in advanced, I've checked
[15:38] <Migs-se> want me to list what I have in advanced?
[15:38] <jussi01> Migs-se: no, go to konsole and run :
[15:38] <jussi01> kdesu restricted-manager
[15:39] <Migs-se> I'm in
[15:39] <Migs-se> I see Nvidia listed and there is a tick box for enabled
[15:40] <jussi01> Migs-se: :D
[15:40] <Migs-se> when I click on it, it says enable driver or cancel
[15:40] <Migs-se> it warns its a propriety driver
[15:40] <jussi01> Migs-se: yep, it should
[15:40] <jussi01> :D
[15:40] <Migs-se> so, enable?
[15:40] <jussi01> yes
[15:41] <Migs-se> it's downloading now
[15:41] <jussi01> :)
[15:41] <Migs-se> file 1 of 1 it says
[15:42] <Migs-se> almost done
[15:42] <Migs-se> about 20 seconds left
[15:43] <Migs-se> okay, it says changes applyed
[15:43] <jussi01> Migs-se: great :D
[15:43] <jussi01> Migs-se: now restart x and off you go
[15:43] <jussi01> :)
[15:43] <Migs-se> and needs a computer restart, which I will do now
[15:44] <Migs-se> Kubuntu is now restarting
[15:44] <Migs-se> hopefully the tv-out will work now
[15:45] <prxq> Hi. I've set up a printer using System Settings -> Printer -> etc. It works fine from there, printing the test page and everything. However, when I try to print from kpdf, it does not appear in the drop-down list of the print dialog. Any ideas?
[15:46] <Migs-se> alrighty
[15:46] <Migs-se> now to switch it off and try it with the TV Now
[15:47] <Migs-se> Hmm
[15:48] <Migs-se> switched on and no display on the TV yet
[15:48] <Migs-se> but I hear Kubuntu is loading. presumably
[15:48] <Migs-se> judging by the churning of the hard drive
[15:49] <Migs-se> man, this blows
[15:49] <Migs-se> still no display at all
[15:50] <Migs-se> plugged in the monitor and it has display
[15:50] <Migs-se> so, how do I turn on the TV-Out?
[15:51] <jussi01> Mi'have a look in the display bit in system settings
[15:52] <Migs-se> how do I put the settings into effect? the apply button is greyed out
[15:52] <Migs-se> i'm in administrator mode by the way
[15:53] <jussi01> hmmm... Im not sure
[15:55] <BluesKaj> prxq, there is no print option in "file" of the page in kpdf  ?
[15:55] <Migs-se> that does't sound good.
[15:55] <MidMark> Migs-se: log-out and restart X
[15:56] <Migs-se> click restart button you mean?
[15:57] <MidMark> no
[15:57] <MidMark> log-out then restart X server from user login
[15:58] <Migs-se> I'm sorry, but how do I do that?
[15:58] <Migs-se> do it in the Konsole?
[15:58] <MidMark> Migs-se: you understand "log out" ?
[15:58] <Migs-se> as in click the button that says log out?
[15:59] <Mikko> eicca u here?
[15:59] <MidMark> Migs-se: exactly and from user login you can restart X, there are other options in the page, just have a look around
[15:59] <Mikko> eicca come to #poo
[15:59] <Mikko> not working :(
[15:59] <Mikko> #emo
[15:59] <Mikko> come to emo eicca!
[16:00] <Migs-se> MidMark do you mean 'restart x server?
[16:00] <MidMark> yup
[16:00] <Migs-se> it's done
[16:00] <Migs-se> and back to the login screen
[16:00] <MidMark> Migs-se: yes that it, new config are read now
[16:00] <Migs-se> log in as normal?
[16:01] <Migs-se> even weirder though
[16:01] <Migs-se> tv still not activated
[16:01] <MidMark> !tv-out
[16:01] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[16:01] <prxq> BluesKaj: no.
[16:01] <prxq> BluesKaj: or, rather, what do you mean?
[16:01] <Mikko> EIICCCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
[16:01] <Mikko> why aint ma wow working?
[16:02] <prxq> BluesKaj: When I go to file->print I get a dialog. There the drop down  menu doesn't show my printer.
[16:02] <Mikko> !fi
[16:02] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[16:04] <Migs-se> okay, stupid question time
[16:04] <Migs-se> where is the terminal?
[16:04] <MidMark> !terminal
[16:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:04] <jussi01> Migs-se: it is konsole
[16:04] <Migs-se> thanks
[16:06] <Migs-se> when I type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' I get an error of 'failed to open device'
[16:07] <NickPresta> !baddevice | Migs-se
[16:07] <ubotu> Migs-se: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[16:08]  * MidMark loves ubotu
[16:08] <Migs-se> how do i edit xorg.conf then? trying to follow the guide that you linked me to
[16:09] <BluesKaj> prxq, but pages other than pdf will print ok ?
[16:09] <MidMark> Migs-se: after you did that command and hit enter then kate will open so what is the problem?
[16:10] <Migs-se> kate did'nt open
[16:10] <Migs-se> I got that error message
[16:10] <Migs-se> instead
[16:10] <Migs-se> well, nothing opened up
[16:10] <MidMark> it should, the error doesn't affect kate for opens, and stop hit enter to say one phrase, this someone already said to you
[16:10] <Migs-se> sorry
[16:11] <Migs-se> It was an after thought. <-- is this safe though?
[16:11] <Mikko> eicca
[16:11] <Migs-se> okay, so should I open kate and manually find the xorg.conf file?
[16:11] <Mikko> im banned from emo? xD
[16:11] <MidMark> Migs-se: yes
[16:11] <Eicca> Mikko: private
[16:12] <Mikko> Eicca: ooo :D
[16:12] <MidMark> Migs-se: well no sorry, try to check it, if should open
[16:12] <Eicca> #mikko_on_homo
[16:12] <Migs-se> I opened up kate, now just need to know where the xorg.conf file is
[16:13] <MidMark> Migs-se: if you write that command kate should open, probably not in fron of you, just check in opened programs in the tackbar at the bottom
[16:13] <MidMark> try to look around you and not only after your noise :)
[16:13] <BluesKaj> Migs-se, the command  kdesu kate 'filename' is not meant for the terminal/konsole , that command is for the run command dialog box in the kmenu or 'alt+F2'
[16:14] <MidMark> BluesKaj: should work in the console too isn't?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> the konsole should use sudo not kdesu
[16:14] <Migs-se> will try it again then
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !kdesu
[16:14] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[16:15] <Mikko> #eiccaisgay
[16:15] <amber_> hello
[16:15] <Migs-se> that worked, thanks BluesKaj
[16:15] <MidMark> Mikko: stop spamming!
[16:16] <Mikko> ok sry :)
[16:18] <MidMark> Migs-se: yes you can type kdesu commands just hitting ALT+F2 and that it :)
[16:19] <Migs-se> then I will continue following the guide
[16:22] <TopAgent> I know this is a lot to ask but can someone help me get video and sound on my laptop.. I am writing on my desk top now and don't have sound or flash on my laptop.  I have one ubuntu cd and it is the one I used for the desktop.. Y I don't have sound or vid is killin me... I went to flash.com and followed the directions as to the best of my abilities and still dont have it.. Help please.
[16:23] <Blissex> TopAgent: the Ubuntu Wiki has full instructions on how to use proprietary extensions...
[16:24] <TopAgent> im using kde is that the same
[16:24] <Mikko> How do i install Lemming ball z?
[16:24] <Mikko> !fi
[16:24] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[16:25] <TopAgent> what is and where is ubuntu wiki?
[16:25] <NickPresta> !flash > TopAgent
[16:25] <TopAgent> yes
[16:26] <Mikko> How do i install Lemming ball z?
[16:26] <TopAgent> yes NickPresta I would like to install Flash
[16:26] <NickPresta> TopAgent, did you get that private message?
[16:26] <TopAgent> no
[16:26] <icewaterman> when can i expect a non-security patch to kdesudo being integrated into ubuntu packages?
[16:26] <NickPresta> !flash | TopAgent
[16:27] <ubotu> TopAgent: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:28] <TopAgent> when typing " !restricted " where are you typig this...   ? In help?
[16:28] <NickPresta> TopAgent, follow the directions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[16:28] <TopAgent> ok  ill try thx
[16:29] <TopAgent> oh no..  when I click on the link a window doesn
[16:29] <TopAgent> open    is this normal in linux/?
[16:29] <Mikko> How do i install Lemming ball z?
[16:31] <Minnozz> Hi, my internet is terribly slow and I don't know why. Ping takes ages, opening a website too. How can I see what causes this? iftop shows about 1 KB/s traffic
[16:31] <bazhang> Mikko: is that a windows game?
[16:31] <NickPresta> Mikko, head to http://www.lbz3d.com/?hp=download download the source (the tar.bz2 archive) and compile it from source. Type in !compile to see how
[16:32] <bazhang> oops
[16:32] <Mikko> no it is linux
[16:32] <sigma> has anyone here ever used firewall builder before?
[16:35] <sigma> has anyone here ever used firewall builder before?
[16:35] <NickPresta> sigma, you don't have to repeat your question 3 minutes later. If no one has used it, no one will answer.
[16:37] <sigma> lol sorry
[16:37] <sigma> oh yes nick, i managed to sort that video encoding problem out - used a program called kvideoencoder and it worked perfectly
[16:38] <BluesKaj> sigma, why worry about a FW anyway, it's not windows
[16:38] <Mikko> i fucking hate kubuntu
[16:38] <LjL> !language | Mikko
[16:38] <ubotu> Mikko: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:38] <sigma> blueskaj: i need to share my internet connection and those tools are the only way to do it
[16:38] <Mikko> im speaking english
[16:38] <sigma> mikko: what did it do to u?
[16:40] <Minnozz> My internet is terribly slow and I don't know why. Ping takes ages, opening a website too. How can I see what causes this? iftop shows about 1 KB/s traffic
[16:40] <Migs-se> Alright, after restart I get the blinking white bar of death. How do I got back to editing the xorg.conf file? Looks like I made a mistake in it.
[16:40] <amber_> i hate kubunu
[16:41] <sigma> amber: why?
[16:41] <amber_> i am used to windows
[16:41] <Migs-se> I'm starting to feel the same. I have respect for people that use linux and have to edit the xorg.conf just to get TV Out working.
[16:42] <amber__> i am new to it though
[16:42] <Migs-se> same here, heh
[16:42] <amber__> how old is everyone
[16:42] <Migs-se> only started with it an hour ago and already knee deep in problems
[16:42] <Migs-se> so, anyone know how to get out of the command line?
[16:43] <Migs-se> seems I made an error in the xorg.conf file
[16:43] <jpatrick> Migs-se: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might help
[16:43] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg try that Migs-se
[16:43] <Migs-se> will do
[16:43] <amber__> i am 11 years old
[16:44] <sigma> amber_: it takes some getting used to
[16:45] <sigma> amber_: why did u switch to kubuntu?
[16:45] <xaka> hi all! i installed kubuntu, but nobody ask me for root password. how i can change it?!
[16:46] <Dr_willis> !root | xaka
[16:46] <ubotu> xaka: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:46] <Migs-se> okay, that worked
[16:46] <BluesKaj> never too young or old to learn linux, amber__
[16:46] <Dr_willis> How zen of ubotu .
[16:46] <Migs-se> so, how to get back to Kububtu main?
[16:46] <xaka> Dr_willis: wow! this is ubuntu policy? :)
[16:46] <Dr_willis> xaka,  yes. Its also a top 10 Faq. :)
[16:47] <sigma> lol
[16:47] <Dr_willis> sudo whatevercommandyouneed
[16:47] <jhutchins> !kdesu | xaka
[16:47] <ubotu> xaka: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[16:47] <Dr_willis> or if you need a shell 'sudo -s' then of course 'exit' when done doing root things.
[16:47] <xaka> i'm go to kubuntu from freebsd and this is newly for me :)
[16:48] <xaka> i'm try to find best developer linux distr
[16:48] <Migs-se> how do you restart the pc from the command line?
[16:48] <ricanelite> i just installed Kubuntu now is it possible to get Compiz-Fusion working which I have currently have installed already being that i have been using Gnome desktop
[16:49] <jpatrick> Migs-se: sudo reboot
[16:49] <bazhang> !compiz | ricanelite
[16:49] <ubotu> ricanelite: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:49] <jpatrick> !compiz | ricanelite
[16:49] <xaka> !terminus
[16:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about terminus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:49] <Migs-se> that seems to have worked. thanks jpatrick
[16:49] <ricanelite> ahh got you, thank you
[16:50] <jpatrick> !cli | xaka
[16:50] <ricanelite> what about avant window can you use that on KDE?
[16:51] <ricanelite> last thing i did alt+f2 and typed in compiz --replace how do i undo that?
[16:51] <bazhang> kwin --replace
[16:52] <xaka> when i installed apps, where package manager cache downloadable deb files? i want copy them to another PC
[16:53] <jpatrick> xaka: /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:53] <jhutchins> xaka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[16:53] <Stilo> !de
[16:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:55] <x_bruno> hi
[16:56] <x_bruno> I need some help, since distro-upgrade, lots of programs do not display properly
[16:56] <x_bruno> all text is now squares
[16:56] <Migs-se> okay guys and gals
[16:56] <Migs-se> thank you for all the help so far
[16:56] <Migs-se> but I've had enough
[16:57] <Aleksander-pl> Hello all - how to change login screen resolution?
[16:57] <Migs-se> going to go find a Freedom Toaster that has the Linux Media Center and burn that to CDs
[16:57] <Migs-se> for now, Kubuntu is toast
[16:58] <Dr_willis> I like GeeXBox for my media playing needs :)
[16:58] <jpatrick> Migs-se: why?
[16:58] <matttis> thats really annoying. I just deselected kdm in system -> services and then kde was killed and doesn't work normal if started again...
[16:58] <Dr_willis> matttis,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm    perhaps?
[16:58] <TopAgent> Hello again everyone.... I have used the webpage you gave me Nick and it still has a distorted video box... say on discovery.com///   it is the same,,, as the flashplayer is there but dosn't display the video.. There is just a couple colored jigsaw puzzle pieces where the video should be..DOES this help anyone in figuring out what my kubuntu may be missing....   Please help
[16:59] <x_bruno> also for me eclipse stopped working, dammed distro-upgrade
[16:59] <Migs-se> jpatrick: I'm getting no where, can't login back to the graphical interface. I'm pretty much getting the BWBOD AKA Blinking White Bar Of Death.
[16:59] <Migs-se> I'm pretty much fed up.
[16:59] <jpatrick> Migs-se: was it working before?
[16:59] <Migs-se> Dr_willis: GeeXBox? for the Xbox? Linux on Xbox?
[16:59] <bazhang> Migs-se: so you said--would you like help fixing it?
[17:00] <Migs-se> jpatrick: Yes, but had to make changes to the conf file just to enable the tv-out and it seems I made an error somewhere.
[17:00] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  nope.. nothing to do with xbox at all.
[17:00] <Migs-se> sorry, I mean the xorg.conf
[17:00] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  a mini live cd/installable disrto taht is just a media player. :)
[17:00] <Migs-se> that is sweet
[17:00] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  i got it installed on my laptop - i can fast boot to the media player now.
[17:00] <Dr_willis> it also handles UPNP
[17:01] <bazhang> nice
[17:01] <Migs-se> can it handle tvout?
[17:01] <Dr_willis> and has a customizer program so you can make your own live cd's
[17:01] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  supposed to be able to. never tried tv out on it.
[17:01] <Migs-se> bazhang, that would be great
[17:01] <Dr_willis> handles various remotes also.
[17:01] <Migs-se> but I have a feeling I won't accomplish what I'm trying to do.
[17:02] <Migs-se> seriously, this is pretty knee deep stuff for a beginner
[17:02] <Dr_willis> Its a 50mb Install to HD. :) so my laptop has 2 Linux's on it.. Geexbox and Ubuntu.
[17:02] <Migs-se> wha? that small? wow
[17:02] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  no idea what you are trying to do. so cant helop ya much. :)
[17:02] <Migs-se> will do a search for it now and see if I can download it
[17:02] <Dr_willis> GeeXbox live cd - boots/copies itself to ram, then ejexcts the cd. so it can play dvd's also
[17:02] <Migs-se> I just want a linux based media center to play videos on the TV. thats it.
[17:02] <bazhang> Migs-se: you need to describe your problem in detail for the folks here to help
[17:02] <Dr_willis> GeeXbox can do that.
[17:03] <Dr_willis> MythTV can do that.
[17:03] <bazhang> mythbuntu
[17:03] <Migs-se> if they are cd images, then I'm screwed
[17:03] <Dr_willis> Theres proberly other Tivo-takeoffs also.
[17:03] <Migs-se> don't have the bandwidth to download such large files.
[17:03] <bazhang> mythdora
[17:03] <Dr_willis> geexbox = 50mb or so download.
[17:03] <Dr_willis> looks like you dont have much options then.
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Or install Kubuntu/Ubuntu/ then Mythtv on Ubuntu
[17:04] <Migs-se> thats what I am trying to do
[17:04] <dreamcoder> which is better to use normal wine or crossover office?
[17:04] <bazhang> geexbox sounds way easier than mythtv
[17:04] <Migs-se> but don't I have to enable TV-Out first before installing MythTV?
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Geexbox is easier for just video playback.
[17:05] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  not really.   Whats your video card? TV out is easy to enable on nvidia.
[17:05] <Daisuke-Laptop> geexbox is awesomeness in a can
[17:05] <Daisuke-Laptop> and only uses 15mb
[17:05] <bazhang> Migs-se: what size tv? lcd plasma other
[17:05] <Daisuke-Laptop> tops
[17:06] <Migs-se> It's a SDTV. 51' Toshiba
[17:06] <alakhia> what calendaring tool would you guys recommend?
[17:06]  * bazhang goes to download geexbox
[17:06] <Migs-se> Geexbox iso is just 8.9 MB? wow
[17:06] <Daisuke-Laptop> yeah
[17:06] <Daisuke-Laptop> extra cool
[17:06] <Dr_willis> I saw a  LCD TV today that had networking/wireless networking. and could some how play videosfiles from the pcs on the network. :) THATS got possibiltys
[17:06] <Daisuke-Laptop> my install's 15mb because i included a metric ton of codecs
[17:06] <bazhang> Migs-se: what resolution?
[17:06] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  you may want to use the geexbox customizer - if you are going to network the machine. Youc ans et the Samba name/password and otehr tweaks
[17:07] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[17:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:07] <scottman_> hello
[17:07] <Migs-se> will download that too Dr_willis
[17:07] <Daisuke-Laptop> *definitely* use the customizer
[17:07] <jhutchins> !tvout | Migs-se
[17:07] <ubotu> Migs-se: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[17:07] <Milux> hi
[17:07] <alakhia> !calendar
[17:07] <Milux> c'è un modo per gestire il volume a gxine senza che modifichi il volume PCM in alsa?
[17:07] <scottman_> anyone here know rhythmbox?
[17:07] <Daisuke-Laptop> the standard ISO is terribly subpar
[17:07] <ubotu> calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[17:07] <Migs-se> bazhang: resolution is 480p
[17:07] <bazhang> hi Milux
[17:07] <Dr_willis> I wish the customizer had a preview of the themes..
[17:07] <Daisuke-Laptop> scottman_: that's a gnome app
[17:07] <scottman_> oops.
[17:07] <Daisuke-Laptop> Dr_willis: dragoon, and that's all you need :D
[17:07] <scottman_> sorry.
[17:07] <Migs-se> jhutchins, I've tryed that and Failed. Got the BWBOD. :)
[17:07] <Milux> ops sorry
[17:07] <Daisuke-Laptop> scottman_: no worries
[17:07] <scottman_> I'm using it with Kubuntu
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Daisuke-Ido,  thats the one im using on my latest cd. :)
[17:07] <Milux> how i can control the volume with gxine without change PCM alsa volume?
[17:07] <scottman_> what do you recommend for kde for music?
[17:08] <Daisuke-Laptop> Dr_willis: love it
[17:08] <Dr_willis> I do wish the darn web site/docs had better referance for the keyboard controlls also.
[17:08] <bazhang> Migs-se: lots of options in linux; don't give up just yet :}
[17:08] <Daisuke-Laptop> scottman_: amarok, no question
[17:08] <Migs-se> so Dr_willis, I will onlu need the geexbox iso and the customiser only?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  you JUST need the customizer.
[17:08] <scottman_> oh.
[17:08] <scottman_> ok
[17:08] <jhutchins> Migs-se: Which card?
[17:08] <bazhang> scottman_: amarok
[17:08] <Dr_willis> run it - select the various options. It can download codecs and stuff.. then makes the cd.
[17:08] <scottman_> I'd like to use amarok for podcasts.
[17:08] <Daisuke-Laptop> Migs-se: you putting together a dedicated tv box?
[17:08] <scottman_> I'm hoping that it won't use file names with question marks for the files.
[17:09] <Dr_willis> last i used the custmizer however.. the Linux binary didetn work. I had to use 'wine customizer.exe' :)
[17:09] <bazhang> scottman_: it does that no problem
[17:09] <Daisuke-Laptop> Dr_willis: don't forget to edit the etc/nfs file if you want to use nfs shares
[17:09] <Migs-se> I had it working with a Ati Radeon 9250 in windows. But you guys mentioned I have better luck using a Nvidia card, so now I've put a Nvidia Geforce FX5200
[17:09] <jhutchins> Migs-se: You might add a comment to the howto page that it didn't work for your card.
[17:09] <alakhia> anyone? I need a calendar tool with todo lists, events, etc. What would you guys recommend?
[17:09] <scottman_> when i try to transfer the files to my removable flash drive, there are errors and I have to rename it.
[17:09] <Daisuke-Laptop> Dr_willis: linux customizer works :)
[17:09] <Daisuke-Laptop> what filesystem's on the flash drive?
[17:09] <scottman_> fat
[17:09] <Migs-se> Daisuke-Ido: A dedicated Video Player Box. No TV playback or recording at all.
[17:09] <Dr_willis> Daisuke-Laptop,  except it dident work.. Not sure what the deal was..
[17:10] <Daisuke-Laptop> Migs-se: streaming from another machine?
[17:10] <scottman_> fat32 I think
[17:10] <Migs-se> jhutchins: I don't think that is the problem
[17:10] <scottman_> hmmm.
[17:10] <Migs-se> I may have made a mistake somewhere
[17:10] <Migs-se> so not certain
[17:10] <Dr_willis> With a Nvidia card. IF you boot up - with JUST a tv attatched. ive seen them default to the tv out  - with No tweaking needed. :)
[17:10] <scottman_> I will try out amarok again.
[17:10] <ubuntu_> przepraszam sa tu polacy xDD
[17:10] <Daisuke-Laptop> now the big question: does the tv you're connecting this to have a vga input?
[17:10] <Dr_willis> but that may depend on the nvidia card.
[17:10] <Migs-se> Daisuke-Ido: Sometimes it may playback files from a Windows Based PC on the network.
[17:10] <bazhang> Kontact alakhia
[17:10] <Migs-se> Daisuke-Ido: No VGA input on my TV
[17:11] <Daisuke-Laptop> that sucks :\
[17:11] <Daisuke-Laptop> i found that was the easiest way to set mine up
[17:11] <Migs-se> It's a SDTV, to be expected
[17:11] <alakhia> bazhang ... oh, yes, I have it installed
[17:11] <Migs-se> not LCD and up
[17:11] <Daisuke-Laptop> right
[17:11] <alakhia> bazhang ... thanks ... let me read about it ... i hope it can sync with goggle calendar
[17:11] <bazhang> alakhia: good news
[17:11] <Daisuke-Laptop> mmmkay
[17:11] <Migs-se> okay, I downloaded GeeXboX 1.1 for i386 (PC). Is this correct Dr_willis?
[17:12] <Dr_willis> Migs-se,  there was only 2 downloads a .iso and a .tgz i think L:) get the tgz
[17:12] <scottman_> thanks
[17:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> for nvidia, geexbox handles tv-out perfectly
[17:12] <Migs-se> I see there are GeeXboX ISO Generator - GeeXboX Sources and GeeXboX Debian Repository for download
[17:12] <Migs-se> I got the Iso, not the tgz
[17:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> Migs-se: you want the ISO generator
[17:12] <xaka> hm...i installed xfont-terminus package, but i don't see this fonts from Konsole font's propertie
[17:12] <jussi01> Hmmm, if i am trying to install some debs that are dependant on each other, how do I make them install all the way - as when I dpkg -i them it gives me dependancy probs, saying the other ones are not configured yet
[17:13] <alakhia> what exactly is iCal ?
[17:13] <Migs-se> all the downloads on there are in iso format only anyway
 Migs-se: you want the ISO generator <-- do you mean I have to download it or is it a question?
[17:13] <bazhang> http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/11/howto-two-way-sync-between-kontact-and-gcal/ alakhia
[17:14] <bazhang> alakhia: mac os version
[17:14] <Migs-se> downloading the iso generator now
[17:15] <alakhia> bazhang: thanks ... reading page right now
[17:15] <bazhang> alakhia: no worries :}
[17:15] <jhutchins> jussi01: Sounds like an error in the packages.
[17:15] <jussi01> jhutchins: no, it isnt. its just that the packages depend on one another
[17:20] <Migs-se> Hmm
[17:20] <Migs-se> looks like geexbox supports the Ati Radeon line of cards
[17:20] <BluesKaj> dependecy hell
[17:20] <BluesKaj> err dependency hell
[17:21] <BluesKaj> the trick is to find which is the key dependency , then the others will install...usually
[17:22] <jussi01> BluesKaj: yeah, thanks. :D
[17:23] <Migs-se> man Dr_willis, I hope this works
[17:23] <Migs-se> if it does, I love ya man! wish you arrived much earlier!
[17:23] <Migs-se> could have saved me loads of time
[17:24] <Migs-se> not could, would
[17:24] <BluesKaj> jussi01, there is one way that will sometimes work , try synaptic , it will give you a clue which app you need first ...if it's in the repos
[17:24] <matttis> Can someone look under K Menu -> System -> Services for the update tool command please ?
[17:25] <jussi01> BluesKaj: ahh we are all sorted. well kinda - was thinking of trying to install something from hardy, but looks like it needs a little newer version of some stuff. Time to go annoy backports :D
[17:25] <jpatrick> matttis: adept_updater
[17:25] <matttis> jpatrick: only that ? thanks
[17:26] <Migs-se> righty, first problem. no tv-out with the Nvidia. that blows
[17:26] <Migs-se> time to put in the trusty Ati Radeon 9250
[17:26] <Dr_willis> enable tv out in xorg
[17:26] <BluesKaj> jussi01, : )
[17:27] <Dr_willis> tv out on ati can be a pain
[17:28] <xaka> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[17:28] <xaka> i got this when install terminus
[17:29] <Migs-se> wow
[17:29] <Migs-se> tv-out worked right out of the box
[17:29] <Migs-se> or should I say, right out of the iso
[17:29] <bazhang> sweet
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: congrats!
[17:30] <Migs-se> hey nosrednaekim, welcome back
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: you did a reinstall?
[17:30] <bazhang> geexbox
[17:30] <Migs-se> question Dr_willis, you mentioned geexbox can be installed to the hard drive
[17:30] <emilsedgh> Kubuntu is going to to out of the box everywhere.really, congratulations to all of the community
[17:30] <Migs-se> nosrednaekim, nah. I pretty much given up hope
[17:31] <Migs-se> think I made a mistake editing the xorg.conf and now I get the BWBOD
[17:31] <Migs-se> thats Blinking White Bar Of Death
[17:31] <bazhang> and Hardy is even better
[17:31] <Dr_willis> geexbox faq details that
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> lol
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: soo..... what are you trying now?
[17:31] <Migs-se> will check it up Dr_willis, thanks
[17:31] <Migs-se> nosrednaekim, trying out geexbox
[17:32] <Migs-se> first linuz distro to actually work with my ati tv-out
[17:32] <Migs-se> I think the Nvidia TV Out is busted. too bad
[17:32] <Migs-se> *Linux
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: ah yeah, thats good for TVs
[17:32] <Migs-se> that was the point nosrednaekim. building a media center here :)
[17:32] <Migs-se> just for video playback
[17:33] <MilitantPotato> Is this a good fstab setup for a NTFS internal drive in FSTAB?  UUID=**** /media/sdb6 ntfs-3g auto,user,rw,exec,sync,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[17:33] <Migs-se> thanks for the tip Dr_willis
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !MCE
[17:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: so what are you playing back? dvds? for do you have MythTV backend
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !info MCE
[17:33] <ubotu> Package mce does not exist in gutsy
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> !linuxMCE
[17:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:34] <BluesKaj> !Linux_MCE
[17:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux_mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:34] <MilitantPotato> Nothing in factoids about MCE...
[17:34] <bazhang> http://en.ubuntumediacenter.org/
[17:34] <Dr_willis> nvidia tv out works fine for me.. Or are you refering to Geex Boxs nvidia tv out?
[17:34] <Migs-se> holy shit
[17:34] <Migs-se> and excuse my french
[17:34] <Migs-se> but it works
[17:34] <Dr_willis> Often with tv out - it may depend on the Specific video card.
[17:34] <Migs-se> Dr_willis, no. I mean the tvout of the actuall Video card
[17:35] <Migs-se> it's a geforce FX 5200
[17:35] <Dr_willis> with my nvidia cards,  5500, 6800, 8800 i could just plug in the tv and ONLY the tv.. and reboot and it would default to the tv out.
[17:35] <Dr_willis> I could even install ubuntu with just the tv hooked up
[17:35] <Dr_willis> But the 5200 may be an older card taht dont work that way
[17:35] <bazhang> wow
[17:36] <Migs-se> currently playing back a 1280x720 h264 file streaming off my Windows XP machine. Sweeet. It runs so ~smooth~.
[17:36] <Migs-se> now to enable subs
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: HD TV?
[17:37] <Migs-se> no. SDTV
[17:37] <Migs-se> man, this file was close to chocking in XP
[17:37] <bazhang> I use my eeepc for that :}
[17:37] <Migs-se> yet plays like it's nothing in Geexbox
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> 1280x720 isn't SD, is it?
[17:38] <Ozoned> Can anyone suggest where I could find help for this problem. Browser is unable to make an http post. Don't know where else to try.
[17:38] <bazhang> 480p is SD
[17:38] <bazhang> Ozoned: an http post?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: konqueror?
[17:39] <Migs-se> weird. subs are enabled but none are showing up.
[17:39] <Migs-se> or it can't read subtitles that are in a mkv file
[17:39] <Ozoned> Any browser, FF konq, yes an http post, dual boot box, win works, gutsy not, but GET post works
[17:40] <matttis> how do i set the system language to german (kde) ?
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> !language
[17:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:40] <Ozoned> I have an AMD64 with latest kubuntu installed, everythings works, just cannot post :-(
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> lol... wrong factoid XD
[17:40] <MilitantPotato> matttis: K menu, system Settings, regional & language
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> what do you mean by post?
[17:40] <bazhang> haha
[17:41] <matttis> MilitantPotato: and why doesnt that change anything ?
[17:41] <Ozoned> like posting a message to kubuntuforum for example, an html form post
[17:41] <bazhang> region and accessibility  --country region and language
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: ah.... what error does it give you?
[17:42] <MilitantPotato> matttis: I've no idea, sorry
[17:42] <MilitantPotato> matttis: where it's at is all I know about it
[17:42] <bazhang> Ozoned: get user agent switcher for firefox then switch browser id
[17:42] <Ozoned> Firefox gives "Bad Request" Konqueror gives "connection broken" elinks gives timeout
[17:42] <bazhang> mattis you need to log out and re log in
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: do you have a firewall set up?
[17:43] <Ozoned> no firewall yet, just re-installed ;)
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: any hardware firewalls?
[17:43] <bazhang> Ozoned: what web address--ill give it a try
[17:43] <matttis> MilitantPotato: thanks anyway
[17:44] <Ozoned> yes, there is a dlink router, but seems ok for setup
[17:44] <Ozoned> bazhang: Example, I can log into kubuntuforums.net, I can write a post, but when I save it, I get the errors mentioned
[17:45] <Ozoned> One last thing, I can get an http post to work on localhost
[17:45] <Ozoned> I'm stumped
[17:45] <bazhang> that is odd
[17:45] <matttis> I've problems setting my kde system language. I've choosen german, but it doesn't change anything. I can't add German as language and I can't install it because it should be installed already
[17:46] <Ozoned> I've used Linex since 1996, never had anything this odd , lol
[17:46] <Ozoned> *Linux*
[17:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:46] <Dr_willis> I dident want to correct you Ozoned .
[17:46] <bazhang> matttis: did you set german as the top choice, then log out?
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> huh!
[17:46] <matttis> bazhang: i cant even add german
[17:47] <Ozoned> Dr_willis: np, I'm always mistyping
[17:47] <bazhang> matttis: there is a button that says install new language, have you hit that?
[17:47] <Migs-se> hmm
[17:47] <toan> Bonjour probleme: Adept installer est verrouillé et en lecture seul,  que faire ??
[17:47] <Migs-se> geexbox needs some tweaking it seems
[17:47] <Ozoned> I found one entry in the KDE message list about a similar pronlem, but there was no follow up
[17:47] <bazhang> !fr | toan
[17:47] <ubotu> toan: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:47] <Migs-se> but so far so good!
[17:48] <matttis> bazhang: i cant choose german, because its already installed
[17:48] <Migs-se> too bad there is no 5.1 audio support for now. that would have rocked if it had it.
[17:49] <gadren> hi, i'm having problems with kaffeine.  No matter what kind of file, when I try to open something in it, it crashes with "Error 11 (SIGSEGV)."  Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: maybe something with IPV6?
[17:49] <bazhang> matttis: what about select system language?
[17:49] <xaka> guys, it really bad :(( i can't install terminus, anybody do this in kubuntu?
[17:49] <matttis> bazhang: already did that :-)
[17:50] <bazhang> matttis: did you then log out?
[17:50] <Ozoned> What sort of IPV6 thing, I mean what should I look out for?
[17:50] <macaholic> I am having problems with apt-get.
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: no Idea, but thats the only thing i can think of.
[17:50] <matttis> bazhang: i logged out a dozen times since it change that setting :-)
[17:51] <Ozoned> I have internet access, http GET works, even IRC works (heh) but this sucker just wont accept a post
[17:51] <Ozoned> I swopped to my old ISP on dial-up, only thing I noticed I had to set line termination to CR/LF before it connected
[17:51] <bazhang> matttis: 64bit system?
[17:51] <matttis> bazhang: nope
[17:52] <Ozoned> But same result using dial-up connection
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> odd
[17:53] <bazhang> matttis: what about the log in screen under options?
[17:53] <matttis> what ?
[17:53] <Ozoned> Is there a channel for Kubuntu 64bit?, I have no problem with Kubuntu 7.04 on my older 32 bit box
[17:54] <bazhang> matttis: the log in screen--options
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: i use 64 bit.... same channel
[17:54] <pawel_> who Poland
[17:54] <matttis> bazhang: where do i find them ?
[17:54] <Migs-se> are there any linux distro's that are like Geexbox? does't need to be bootable, just made to play video files from the word GO.
[17:54] <Ozoned> I really am stumped, don't know what else to try, but thanks anyway
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> Migs-se: i think linuxmce does that
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: yeah... me too
[17:55] <bazhang> matttis: do you know the login screen?
[17:55] <Migs-se> Yikes, thats the monster, heh
[17:55] <Migs-se> 4gb download. massive...
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> lol
[17:55] <matttis> bazhang: yes, kdm
[17:55] <Ozoned> nosrednaekim: So you have a 64bit, is it AMD?
[17:55] <pawel_> who play wormux
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> Ozoned: turion 64
[17:55] <matttis> bazhang: there it is possible to choose a language ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> x2
[17:56] <bazhang> matttis: there is a menu that says session, and should also one that says options
[17:56] <matttis> bazhang: you mean i should change the kdm settings ?
[17:56] <bazhang> also be
[17:58] <matttis> bazhang: that i can change also under system settings, but there is only english given to choose
[17:58] <sourcemaker> somebody using JUK on KDE?
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> sourcemaker: the kde4 version, yes
[17:58] <bazhang> matttis: so nothing under options? when in the region screen did you hit apply?
[17:59] <matttis> when ?
[17:59] <sourcemaker> nosrednaekim:  I have a problem with juk. Seeking large sound tracks does not work...
[17:59] <bazhang> matttis: in the language settings screen did you hit apply?
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> sourcemaker: ah,,.... no idea ask in #kde
[18:00] <sourcemaker> nosrednaekim: With amarok... it also does not work...
[18:00] <matttis> bazhang: the problem is harder to solve...
[18:01] <gadren> hi, i'm having problems with kaffeine.  No matter what kind of file, when I try to open something in it, it crashes with "Error 11 (SIGSEGV)."  I can play things in KPlayer just fine, but I would like to get Kaffeine working too.Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> gadren: I had that problem back in edgy, I just used Codeine for that release.
[18:03] <gadren> mosrednaekim: thanks, that'll do for now :)
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> gadren: sorry I can't reccomend something a little better :D
[18:04] <gadren> nosrednaekim: no problem
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> See ya everyone! BBL
[18:06] <emilsedgh> oh, i just upgraded to gutsy and now /media is not working and media:/ is back, could i get /media back again?
[18:06] <bazhang> matttis: in the language setting screen choose the language you want from top menu marked DEFAULT--if it is installed, then it will show right away, you then need to log out
[18:07] <Dr_willis> - /media is just a path.. media:/ is a kioslave
[18:07] <Dr_willis> whats not workign with /media ?
[18:07] <Don_jr333> Hello, I just installed the 7.10 server.  I can't seem to get online with my wireless at the moment, but thre is a wlan0 present.
[18:07] <emilsedgh> Dr_willis: media:/ is officially removed, /media was detecting stuff in feisty
[18:08] <Don_jr333> when I run dhclient wlan0      it tells me it can't creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied.  and I ran it under sudo
[18:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm i cant even type in /media - some darn Strigi:/ thing keeps poping in the address bar..
[18:09] <bazhang> matttis: I just tried this--and had the option to install german--if you don't have the option, then you are either in Feisty, or don't have german installed
[18:09] <gadren> say, now that i have videos working with KPlayer, is there a way to still have preview thumbnails in konq and dolphin?
[18:09] <pacman> anyone know a good .daa convertor?
[18:09] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. never noticed media:/ missing untill now.. It worked on my other machines i thought
[18:09] <Dr_willis> how sad. :)
[18:09] <bazhang> acetone iso pacman
[18:10] <Ozoned> has anyone noticed problems with KMySqlAdmin? when browsing tables it using all the system memory
[18:10] <bazhang> gadren: no video previews in dolphin iirc
[18:10] <matttis> bazhang: i installed kde-i18n-de, i'll restart now
[18:10] <Don_jr333> Anyone have any ideas with my wireless problem?
[18:11] <gadren> bazhang: oh, ok thanks
[18:11] <bazhang> gadren: no worries :}
[18:11] <Don_jr333> Wireless card shows up in lsusb, and wlan0 is thre in iwconfig
[18:11] <Don_jr333> but it isn't connected
[18:12] <BluesKaj> pacman, audacity, if you're doing analog to digital
[18:12] <pacman> well, what I'm trying to do is turn a .daa into a .iso so I can burn it to disk
[18:13] <bazhang> pacman: acetone iso
[18:13] <pacman> I'm not seeing acetone on adept
[18:13] <bazhang> outside package iirc
[18:13] <vdv> hi all
[18:14] <bazhang> hi vdv
[18:14] <BluesKaj> pacman, try kiso
[18:14] <vdv> is there anybody who use OO's calc?
[18:14] <Dr_willis> or a windows tool and wine. :)
[18:14] <Don_jr333> got it connected.  Can anyone tell me the package I need to install the KDE desktop environment?
[18:14] <kiiz> hi.where can i get the scanmodem tool
[18:14] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop Don_jr333
[18:14] <Don_jr333> bazhang thank you
[18:15] <matttis> bazhang: after installing i could choose german as language, fyi
[18:15] <Don_jr333> couldn't find any packages named kubuntu-desktop
[18:15] <gadren> bazhang: heh, actually, i did get video previews working in dolphin... i just had to install kdemultimedia
[18:15] <Dr_willis> !find kubuntu-desktop
[18:15] <ubotu> Found: kubuntu-desktop
[18:15] <bazhang> matttis: good news
[18:15] <Dr_willis> !info  kubuntu-desktop
[18:15] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[18:16] <bazhang> gadren: cool! thanks for the tip!
[18:16] <Don_jr333> hmmm, so my repositories arn't right then
[18:16] <alakhia> bazhang: found this page to be very helpful: http://www.linux.com/feature/122054
[18:16] <Don_jr333> Where are the repositories kept so I can look at them please?
[18:16] <bazhang> alakhia: success?
[18:16] <alakhia> bazhang: shows step by step instructions for email and calendar
[18:16] <bazhang> alakhia: excellent :}
[18:16] <alakhia> bazhang: i successfully am using kmail to read gmail
[18:17] <alakhia> bazhang: using imap so all my labels work too
[18:17] <bazhang> yahoo alakhia
[18:17] <alakhia> bazhang: trying out calendaring next
[18:17] <vdv> in a 'calc': i have 5 items from A1 to A5, 5 disease names, and from B1 to B5 number of people who is ill with that disease
[18:17] <alakhia> bazhang: thanks for all your help! :)
[18:17] <bazhang> alakhia: you did it all :}
[18:18] <Don_jr333> when I run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  I get   E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[18:18] <Dr_willis> I woudl do a 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try again
[18:18] <omarcharrua> hola
[18:18] <Don_jr333> thanks Dr_willis it's running
[18:19] <bazhang> hi omarcharrua
[18:19] <omarcharrua> nadie habla español??
[18:19] <gadren> i have another question: since i only use the channel pages instead of the server pages in Konversation, is it possible to hide the "Ubuntu IRC" tab without disconnecting?
[18:19] <bazhang> !es | omarcharrua
[18:19] <ubotu> omarcharrua: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:19] <Ozoned> Don_jr333: /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:19] <Don_jr333> Ozoned thank you, I'll check on that if this upgrade thing doesn't fix it, its' running now
[18:19] <omarcharrua> buenas tardes y hasta pronto muchas gracias por los datos DIOS LOS BENDIGA
[18:19] <Don_jr333> I wrote it down so I don't forget
[18:20] <bazhang> de nada
[18:20] <omarcharrua> BUENAS TARDES
[18:20] <omarcharrua> buenas tardes
[18:20] <bazhang> bye :}
[18:20] <Dr_willis> Nacho Grande!
[18:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:21] <Don_jr333> great, getting Kubuntu now.
[18:21] <Flare183> kded is using way too much cpu what should i do about it?
[18:22] <snarkster> hi, when i start 7.10 i see a bunch of text scroll across the screen in huge letters, is there a way to configure that to normal font size?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> disable the eye candy?
[18:22] <bazhang> Flare183: are you using compiz?
[18:22] <Flare183> bashang:> yes
[18:22] <bazhang> Flare183: that would be the culprit then
[18:23] <snarkster> btw where do I put the command to automatically start ndiswrapper
[18:23] <xaka> i have 2 sound cards and when try to play some mp3 file - nothing to listen :( nForce mboard and maudio rev 5.1
[18:23] <Flare183> bashang:> it has not been doing this until lately
[18:23] <bazhang> Flare183: yeah, it leaks memory abit I believe
[18:24] <Flare183> bazhang:> anyway to fix this?
[18:24] <bazhang> xaka: do you have the codecs installed?
[18:24] <bazhang> Flare183: disable compiz, or fix the memory leak?
[18:25] <Flare183> bazhang:> fix the memory leak?
[18:25] <Flare183> bazhang:> fix the memory leak
[18:25] <bazhang> Flare183: try #compiz-fusion
[18:25] <kiiz> is the scanmodem tool installed by defult
[18:25] <bazhang> !info scanmodem
[18:25] <ubotu> Package scanmodem does not exist in gutsy
[18:26] <fdoving> Flare183: you can start htop or some resource monitor thing, monitor kded and go to system settings -> advanced -> service manager, then in the Startup Services box, you can stop one by one service (of the ones with status running,  of course), to figure out what eats your cpu.
[18:26] <bazhang> kiiz: what is the tool name
[18:27] <Flare183> bazhang:> if i just restart compiz would that help?
[18:27] <bazhang> Flare183: not sure--I think fdoving's advice would be better
[18:28] <Flare183> k
[18:29] <kiiz> bazhang: scanmodem
[18:30] <bazhang> kiiz: not in gutsy repos
[18:31] <bazhang> kiiz: you can search in packages.ubuntu.com if you wish
[18:32] <deuryte> i visited the w2k green box today to do my doody...........  it was full....
[18:36] <xaka> bazhang: yes, but i have no seen alsaconf
[18:36] <crimsun> we don't ship alsaconf.
[18:36] <crimsun> (and haven't since 5.04)
[18:36] <bazhang> xaka: I'm not good with sound, sorry I can't help more
[18:41] <titanix88> hello
[18:41] <titanix88> Anyone here? :)
[18:41] <BluesKaj> nope
[18:41] <killermach> I just d/l 7.10 x86 desktop CD and did fresh install, on initial boot I run apt updater and it says a new version is available, but fails to upgrade
[18:41] <snarkster> ive asked like 2 question and no one answered..
[18:42] <killermach> was having sam issue trying to upgrade 7.04 to gutsy via adept upgrade
[18:42] <killermach> any help?
[18:42] <titanix88> snarkster: what prblm? maybe i can help.
[18:43] <xaka> i have close my trouble with sound: 1. asoundconf 2. asoundconf set-default-card <name> (name get from asoundconf list)
[18:43] <snarkster> titanix88: 1 where do i put the command modprobe ndiswrapper so my card starts automatically. 2. how do i configure the console so the font isnt so big
[18:44] <xaka> asoundconf - set settings for user. Next we must get list of card by "asoundconf list". Next we must set primary sound card by "asoundconf set-default-card <name>"
[18:44] <fkeaz> hello
[18:44] <fkeaz> does anyone actually have indeo5 codec working in 64 bit ?
[18:45] <titanix88> snarkster: settings->Fonts
[18:45] <fkeaz> i have a video file that is hd i want to view but cant
[18:45] <johnficca> what is the package I need in order for me to share files with other linux pc's
[18:45] <BluesKaj> xaka, in the konsole : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[18:45] <xaka> BluesKaj: yeap, now i know this ) need in FAQ i think
[18:47] <titanix88> snarkster: after adjusting the font, settings->Save as default
[18:47] <snarkster> titanix88: thank you thats done
[18:47] <szakulec> fkeaz: what kind of file do you have?
[18:49] <snarkster> what run level is multiuser X
[18:49] <titanix88> snarkster: try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[18:50] <snarkster> titanix88: right sudo modprobe ndiswrapper does work, but isnt there a sysconfig file to place that in so it starts autimatically?
[18:51] <killermach> on 7.10 I search adept/synaptic for beryl and there are no results, what repository is missing from a fresh 7.10 install?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> fkeaz, http://www.mikinews.net/2007/11/22/k-lite-codec-pack-357-full-corporate-standard-basic/
[18:52] <newuser> what is the best way to set up a kubuntu system after a fresh install...  Specifically, how do I set up kde for ubuntu and sound, video for the web?
[18:53] <rain> how to teplace kmenu logo with vista logoor how to use kbfx? i installed it with apt-get but i dont know how use it :(
[18:54] <newuser> Im using 7.10 gutsy
[18:54] <chuin> brazilians here? D:
[18:54] <BluesKaj> !br | chuin
[18:54] <ubotu> chuin: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:54] <Dr_willis> newuser,  i normally make a script that installs all the packagez i normally want. :)
[18:54] <Dr_willis> newuser,  for a start install 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[18:54] <newuser> wow, AS a new user, I don't think I can do that
[18:55] <Dr_willis> newuser,  the if you want ubuntu and kubuntu desktop 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[18:55] <newuser> cool, then what for the sound and video
[18:56] <xaka> when i try mount NTFS part - i got "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000". whats wrong?
[18:57] <fkeaz> szakulec: thanks i actually got it working following ubuntuguide
[18:57] <szakulec> okay
[18:57] <rain> how to teplace kmenu logo?
[18:58] <fkeaz> Selected video codec: [indeo5ds] vfm: dshow (Intel Indeo 5)
[18:58] <Cannoli> !avi
[18:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:58] <rain> how to teplace kmenu logo?
[18:58] <fkeaz> szakulec: thats about all i know about the vid, its beautiful other than that
[18:59] <szakulec> okay- you would definitely need the win32-codec package for Indeo 4 and 5
[18:59] <Cannoli> wht would u guys say is the best avi/video player for kubuntu?
[19:00] <rain> how to teplace kmenu logo?
[19:01] <killermach> Dr_willis:  kubuntu-restricted-extras was great info, do you know how I can get beryl installed? it's not in synaptic list
[19:02] <Dr_willis> killermach,  beryl is dead.
[19:02] <Dr_willis> its compiz-fusion now
[19:02] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[19:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:02] <fannagoganna> !compiz
[19:02] <Dr_willis> and i suggest NOT messing with compiz :)
[19:02] <Dr_willis> at leat not untill ya get the rest of the ssytem going.
[19:02] <killermach> Dr_willis: cool. thanks
[19:02] <Cannoli> wht would u guys say is the best avi/video player for kubuntu?
[19:02] <titanix88> snarkster: go to /yourhome/.kde/Autostart
[19:03] <titanix88> snarkster: create a new text file e.g. "ndis.sh"
[19:03] <titanix88> snarkster: open it.
[19:03] <Dr_willis> actually installing Ubuntu-desktop may eneable a lot of the compiz stuff
[19:03] <newuser> I like the mozilla firefox browser but it doesn't work well... I can't get the sound and video on a web page... can anyone help me
[19:03] <Dr_willis> Cannoli,  depends on what/how/type of video i am playing.
[19:03] <Dr_willis> newuser,  depends on the site and the kind of video
[19:03] <Dr_willis> !flash
[19:03] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:03] <Cannoli> uh avi video, encoded with divx
[19:03] <snarkster> newuser install the jre1.4-mozilla plugin
[19:03] <Dr_willis> the stage6 web site works wth me. I installed some of the mozilla plugins i belive
[19:04] <titanix88> snarkster: write these lines:"!#/bin/bash"
[19:04] <newuser> snarkster,,,, how do I do that through the terminal?
[19:04] <newuser> brb  min
[19:04] <snarkster> newuser: hold on a sec Ill get the package name for you
[19:05] <titanix88> snarkster: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[19:05] <titanix88> snarkster: save it.
[19:05] <Dr_willis> stage6 is down again.. gesh
[19:05] <Dr_willis> well good luck.. bbl
[19:05] <titanix88> snarkster: make it executable.
[19:05] <titanix88> snarkster: done :)
[19:05] <snarkster> cool
[19:07] <snarkster> newuser: apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[19:07] <snarkster> newuser: make sure you agree to the license or itll fail
[19:09] <Xcell> deuryte
[19:10] <Don_jr333> my install appears to be stuck.  It's been asking me to put the CD in and it's already there
[19:10] <Don_jr333> so I just press enter and it moves on
[19:10] <Don_jr333> now it says [99%] Working...  and then asks me for the cd again, over and over
[19:10] <killermach> Dr_willis: does this mean fire/burn feature is gone? or is in comp-fusion?
[19:12] <Xcell> Don_jr333: Go to /add/remove/edit software sources/third party software/uncheck )cd).
[19:12] <Don_jr333> I an't get into that just yet.  I don't have xorg yet, it's console only, in the midst of installing kubuntu-desktop
[19:12] <Xcell> k
[19:12] <Don_jr333> at 99% and appears it's not going to go any farther
[19:13] <Don_jr333> how bad will it be goofed if I restart?
[19:13] <Xcell> Are you just now installing kubuntu?
[19:13] <Don_jr333> yes
[19:13] <Don_jr333> well
[19:13] <Xcell> let go
[19:13] <Don_jr333> I installed the ubuntu server 7.10
[19:14] <Don_jr333> and installing the kubuntu desktop environment into it
[19:14] <Xcell> ah  I dont know/ never used it.
[19:14] <Don_jr333> well, here goes for hopeing, I'll start over and edit my sources next time if it's too goofed
[19:14] <snarkster> thank you for your help
[19:14] <killermach> is there a comp-fusion channel?
[19:15] <pastulio> whats a good program similar to photoshop for kde/linux in general?
[19:15] <szakulec> what aspect of Photoshop do you need?
[19:16] <pastulio> general editing
[19:17] <szakulec> You could try Krita
[19:18] <szakulec> it's not meant to be a Photoshop replacement in any fashion though
[19:19] <szakulec> if you deal with a lot of photos, definitely look into Digikam
[19:19] <jussi01> pastulio: the gimp?
[19:19] <jussi01> !info gimp
[19:20] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 3800 kB, installed size 10476 kB
[19:20] <jussi01> !compiz | killermach
[19:20] <ubotu> killermach: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:21] <makaveli> how do i setup LAMP
[19:21] <jussi01> !lamp | makaveli
[19:21] <ubotu> makaveli: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:21] <makaveli> thank u
[19:21] <jussi01> :D
[19:24] <BluesKaj> !cpufrequtils
[19:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpufrequtils - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:25] <jussi01> !info cpufrequtils
[19:25] <ubotu> cpufrequtils: utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature. In component universe, is optional. Version 002-5 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 204 kB
[19:25] <jussi01> BluesKaj: I assume thats what you were looking for?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> yup jussi01 , thx
[19:26] <jussi01> :D
[19:26] <DexterF> hi
[19:26] <BluesKaj> I installed the utils but it doesn't launch
[19:27] <DexterF> sound issue: no sound from any app. mixer is not muted, only one card in here, worked fine the other day. dmesg shows nothing suspicious. pointers?
[19:27] <szakulec> in kmix, try unchecking the option Restore volume settings at login
[19:28] <szakulec> that fixed my sound issue for me
[19:28] <jussi01> !sound
[19:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:28] <adamonline45> Can I make Amarok automatically sort tracks by track number?
[19:28] <DexterF> szakulec: was it upsdated? has been working for month, that is since I installed 7.04
[19:28] <DexterF> jussi01: there's no way I'm gonna use that POS aRts again
[19:29] <DexterF> ever
[19:29] <DexterF> but ill look at the other two
[19:29] <szakulec> not that I know of
[19:38] <WaltzingAlong> greetings
[19:38] <Eicca> I didn't read it well enough, so can someone say again; How can I disable the thing that opens the same windows on bootup that I had opened when I closed my computer?
[19:40] <WaltzingAlong> !ipod
[19:40] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[19:42] <NickPresta> Eicca, you have to disable session management
[19:43] <NickPresta> Eicca, when you login, select a KDE session, not the last KDE session.
[19:45] <newuser> ok Im back from the store
[19:46] <newuser> the wife made me get some flour
[19:46] <Eicca> NickPresta: if I do it once, does it work every time?
[19:46] <newuser>  I have a could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com error
[19:47] <newuser> when updating
[19:47] <NickPresta> Eicca, it should. It should select the last session as the default so if you have a fresh new session, that should be your default.
[19:47] <Eicca> allright
[19:47] <Eicca> brb I'll test
[19:47] <newuser> wow, there are a lot of errors.......  HAHAHAHA  need to install my network....
[19:47] <Eicca> hmm didnt work
[19:48] <Eicca> new try ->
[19:49] <NickPresta> Eicca, go into System Settings > Advanced Tab > Session Manager > On Login Start with an empty session
[19:49] <Eicca> The options are: "Default" "KDE (previous)" and "Failsafe" I switched it from Default to KDE.d..
[19:49] <NickPresta> I forgot that was a setting you had to have :)
[19:49] <Eicca> okay
[19:50] <Eicca> NickPresta: and do you know how to disable the process bar from the first kubuntu splash screen and modify the KDE splash screen? =)
[19:50] <NickPresta> Eicca, you mean the screen that says Kubuntu on the top and has that progress bar under it?
[19:51] <Eicca> exactly
[19:53] <Eicca> NickPresta: do you know how to help?
[19:53] <myk> after a recent update, i have to connect to m wireless network twice before it "sticks" using knetworkmangaer. The first time, it connects, then drops a few seconds later. The second time, it stays connected. Anyone else experience this?
[19:53] <expo> scusate ho un problema con i driver Ati, la mia scheda video non è supportata e i restricted driver mi creano vari crash. C'è qualcuno che mi può aiutare? Ho già chiesto aiuto sul FOrum di ubuntu ma nessuna soluzione...
[19:54] <Dragnslcr> !it | expo
[19:54] <ubotu> expo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:54] <expo> Ok thanks
[19:56] <NickPresta> Eicca, if I recall correctly, that is a boot option. You have to go into your menu.lst file and remove the options found in the 'defoptions' variable. You should change it from "defoptions=quiet splash" to "defoptions=" (sans quotes)
[19:57] <NickPresta> Eicca, then, run "sudo update-grub"
[19:57] <sigma> are the kubuntu tutorials suitable for beginners?
[19:57] <NickPresta> sigma, which tutorials?
[19:57] <myk> anyone able to assist me with the knetworkmanager issue?
[19:58] <Eicca> NickPresta: I found this splashy program, I think I'll give it a try.
[19:58] <sigma> nickpresta: the ones on kubuntututorialsday?
[19:58] <sigma> myk: whats the issue?
[19:58] <myk> thanks. After a recent update, i must connect to my wifi twice before the connection "sticks"
[19:58] <myk> i removed the config file and tried again, same results
[19:59] <myk> not a big deal, but slightly annoying having to connect again after i open firefo
[20:00] <sigma> hmm, have you tried a app called kwifimanager myk?
[20:00] <myk> not lately. to be honest, knetworkmanager worked fine until the update
[20:01] <Eicca> what was the "sudo" for graphical programs?
[20:01] <Eicca> !sudo kde
[20:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudo kde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:01] <myk> doens kwifimanager work okay with ndiswrapper? got a broadcom chipset
[20:01] <Eicca> !kde su
[20:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde su - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:01] <sigma> myk: it doesnt work 2well with ndiswrapper chips
[20:02] <martijn81> when i click an irc link in konqueror it starts kopete. How do i change this into konversation?
[20:02] <myk> hmmm. I may go back to using Wicd.. That is what i used in the previous Kubuntu release
[20:02] <Eicca> what was the "sudo" for graphical programs?
[20:02] <myk> Eicca: kdesu or kdesudo
[20:02] <sigma> myk: whats wicd?
[20:02] <martijn81> Eicca: kdesu
[20:03] <myk> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[20:03] <myk> it was used by many in the previous *buntu because networkmanager was buggy
[20:03] <sigma> myk: network manager is still rather hopeless on the wireless side
[20:04] <myk> probably right.. Guess i will add the wicd repository again. I was hopeful, because networkmanager worked for the first time for me this release.. Then they borke it :(
[20:04] <myk> umm.. broke
[20:04] <alessio> hello
[20:04] <sigma> anyone have some synce tutorials for kde? i have a htc s310 windows mobile 5 smartphone
[20:05] <sigma> hi allessio
[20:05] <BluesKaj> the cpufrequtils wasn't working properly ...had my pc pinned at 1Ghz even while transcoding video and the resultiing xml file was very jerky with a lot of dropped frames
[20:05] <sigma> myk: i found that when using ndiswrapper theres no alternative than using knetwork manager
[20:06] <myk> Wicd is good, used it for over a year
[20:06] <Eicca> !splashscreen
[20:06] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[20:06] <Eicca> !splash screen
[20:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:08] <BluesKaj> so anyone who wants author or recode files for dvd on amd64 kubuntu , follow this tutorial if the ondemand setting in cpufrequtils isn't doing it's job : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils
[20:09] <eVipere> Alright, question....   recent upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy via the package manager, and compiz freaked out (go figure)...  Anyway, I need compiz installed on KDE, what packages does someone suggest I get?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> !compiz
[20:10] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:10] <eVipere> Hmm, not shipping by default eh?
[20:14] <Don_jr333> can kubuntu be configured to read korean text in text editor without chaning entire global language to korean?
[20:14] <greeg> hi gang.
[20:14] <greeg> im looking for a yahoo messanger client
[20:15] <Xcell> pidgin or kopete.
[20:15] <greeg> i have gaim
[20:16] <sigma> don: you may want to google that
[20:16] <greeg> but when i open it, it automatically signs on my AOL screen name.
[20:16] <Xcell> That should do it
[20:16] <greeg> or AIM screen name rather.
[20:17] <sigma> greeg: find the config files in your home folder for that program and delete them, that way u can re-create your profile
[20:17] <pastulio> i want to habeeb
[20:17] <Xcell> How you doing today sigma.
[20:17] <sub[t]rnl> greets
[20:17] <sigma> lol very good
[20:17] <Xcell> greets
[20:18]  * sub[t]rnl sips coffee
[20:18] <BluesKaj> greeg , either pidgin or kopete , i can't recall which does yahoo messenger
[20:18] <Xcell> Whats in the coffee.
[20:18] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: i finally found a solution for my video conversion, to use kvideoencoder, works like a dream
[20:18] <Xcell> nice
[20:18] <sub[t]rnl> sigma: bangarang
[20:18] <sigma> lol
[20:19] <sigma> so can anyone tell me if those kubuntu-tutorial-day tutorials are suitable for beginners?
[20:19] <greeg> E: Couldn't find package pidgin  i ran apt-get update too
[20:20] <Xcell> greeg: you cant use both..uninstall gaim first/ then install pidgin
[20:20] <stdin> sigma: they will, but there are some links on the wiki page that you can read to get a head start
[20:21] <sigma> ok because i dont know anything when it comes to programming, always willing to learn
[20:21] <xaka> has WEB resource for searching packages?
[20:21] <stdin> sigma: the only "programming" part is the PyKDE4 session
[20:21] <sigma> xaka: packages.ubuntu.com?
[20:22] <sigma> stdin: so whats all the other sessions about?
[20:22] <sigma> never mind i see, looks interesting, always wanted to know how to make a deb file
[20:22] <Don_jr333> Can any tell me how to get korean text to show up in a text editor without changing global language to korean?
[20:23] <jpatrick> sigma: my packaging talk will be very basics on packagin
[20:23] <stdin> sigma: helping with bugs, using revision control, packaging, getting your package into kubuntu and Q&A
[20:23] <sigma> jpatrick: how complicated can making a package get?
[20:24] <jpatrick> sigma: apart from policy, copyrights, and some other stuff, easy when you know how to do it
[20:24] <stdin> sigma: it can be complicated :p but generally it's quite simple (once you grasp the concepts)
[20:24] <jpatrick> sigma: but it takes time
[20:25] <stdin> the packaging guide (linked to on the wiki page) is a great start
[20:26] <sigma> il take a look, you know there ought to be a help.kubuntu.com website
[20:26] <sigma> i also have noticed that the ubuntuforums site is plugged into google whilst the kubuntuforums site is not
[20:27] <greeg> the web site to download pidgin only offers for fedora, CentOS / RHEL, and windows?
[20:27] <jpatrick> sigma: funny, we don't even have caniconal hosting..
[20:28] <Eicca> How can I time the shut down to some specify time? (Like shut down at 8.00.)
[20:28] <sigma> jpatrick: don't they fund the kubuntu project?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> greeg, it's in the repos
[20:28] <jpatrick> sigma: the forums don't have hosting from Caniconal tho
[20:29] <stdin> Eicca: set it as a cron job
[20:29] <stdin> !cron
[20:29] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[20:29] <sigma> jpatrick: so then who pays for the hosting?
[20:29] <Eicca> okay thanks
[20:30] <jpatrick> sigma: the guy in charge
[20:30] <Eicca> stdin: and what is the command to shut down the computer?
[20:31] <stdin> Eicca: "shutdown" :)
[20:31] <greeg> E: Couldn't find package pidgin
[20:31] <greeg> i ran apt-get update
[20:31] <sigma> jpatrick: jonathan riddell?
[20:31] <Eicca> stdin: and where is my crontab file? =)
[20:31] <greeg> can someone just give me the line i need in sources.list ?
[20:32] <Eicca> stdin: and where is my crontab file? =) quickly :D
[20:32] <BluesKaj> greeg, did you check in adept
[20:32] <greeg> yes.
[20:32] <stdin> Eicca: rather than editing the file by hand, use the kcron gui, you will want to edit it as root (to edit roots crontab) so use "kdesu kcron"
[20:32] <greeg> BluesKaj: nothing
[20:33] <Eicca> okay
[20:33] <kiiz> help :'( .kubuntu has a graphics problem at boot.i am use a intel intergrated graphics.pease how can i solve this
[20:33] <jpatrick> sigma: nop, someone else, he's a nice guy
[20:33] <Don_jr333> Is it possible to show krean text in a text editor without changing teh global language to korean?
[20:33] <Xcell> greeg what version are you on fiesty?
[20:34] <Eicca> good night and thanks alot stdin
[20:34] <Migs> hello, once again
[20:34] <Migs> not kubuntu related, but does anyone know of a free or open source unix aware editor that works in windows?
[20:34] <BluesKaj> you can edit the sources.list directly in kate or adept, alt+F2  ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list , but i recommend source-o-matic
[20:35] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic
[20:35] <Migs> but I don't have kubuntu installed anymore
[20:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:35] <stdin> Migs: probably better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:36] <Migs> okay, will do. thanks
[20:36] <BluesKaj> greeg, did you get that ?
[20:36] <sigma> jpatrick: do any of you guys get paid by canonical for developing?
[20:36]  * pastulio eats migs
[20:36] <Dodger73> hi all... i'm having major issues with fglrx - i had it running in gutsy, but had to reinstall because my / partition was getting a little tight on space - and now if i enable fglrx, all i get is a black screen
[20:37] <Dodger73> scarily enough, kde still starts
[20:37] <Migs> Am I tasty?
[20:37] <Dodger73> but X doesn't display anything
[20:37] <pastulio> yess :3
[20:37] <Dodger73> and the monitor goes to powersave
[20:37] <BluesKaj> sigma, we get free coffe once in a while :)
[20:37] <jpatrick> sigma: nop, I don't mind, I like developing Kubuntu in my free time
[20:37] <jpatrick> sigma: riddell does tho
[20:38] <sigma> jpatrick: yup i see canonical is more geared towards developing ubuntu
[20:38] <stdin> sigma: it's their "flagship" product
[20:39] <emilsedgh> are the red hat liberation fonts in ubuntu repos ?
[20:39] <emilsedgh> i cannot find any package for them
[20:40] <Flare183> Flare183 is at Walmart
[20:40] <jpatrick> !away > Flare183
[20:41] <deuryte> flabuntoo  gutsy  rocks...
[20:41] <BluesKaj> who cares :)
[20:41] <Xcell> yay
[20:41]  * Flare183 says sorry konversation done it
[20:41] <Migs> flabuntoo short for flambouyant Ubuntu?
[20:41] <mrmonday> what is the command to open the preffered applications dialog box?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> flab maybe
[20:42] <sigma> yup i noticed that, its always surprising to see that whenever ubuntu releases a new version the icon theme completely changes, its like a whole new operating system
[20:42] <deuryte> kabuntu @ fta64
[20:42] <deuryte> fat64*
[20:42] <greeg> Xcell im on the version prior to feisty
[20:42] <BluesKaj> edgy
[20:42] <greeg> yea
[20:42] <kiiz> does any one how to solve a display problem on intel 845gl interated gpu .kubuntu does not display right.
[20:42] <Xcell> ah  I never used dapper..sorry
[20:42] <deuryte> dyaper dawn...
[20:43] <emilsedgh> mrmonday: kcmshell defaultapplication
[20:43] <Xcell> Deu: did you get kppp working?
[20:43] <deuryte> 54
[20:43] <Xcell> Nice  good job
[20:43] <BluesKaj> greeg, did you check out source-o-matic ?
[20:43] <deuryte> just now got to putting info on thumb drive...
[20:43] <emilsedgh> Xcell: whats the problem whith kppp? i always use it...
[20:44] <deuryte> im still on flooboontoo
[20:44] <Xcell> emilsedgh:  We just put a fresh kubuntu on deutryts comp last nite and he went home to dialup and could not hook up.
[20:44] <emilsedgh> Xcell: whats the problem, exactly? whats the error?
[20:45] <Xcell> Deu ryte there ya go talk to emilsedgh.
[20:45] <emilsedgh> deuryte: i always use kppp, could i ask what was the error? maybe i could help you...
[20:46] <deuryte> well, here goes... it querries and finds the serial modem, but when i go to dial up, it hans up in the "intializing modem" stae, then after a min.   it drops out.
[20:46] <greeg> BluesKaj: is that a text editor ?
[20:46] <emilsedgh> aah yes
[20:46] <emilsedgh> this is a very common problem
[20:47] <greeg> BluesKaj: well there's nothing in the repos
[20:47] <deuryte> it doesnt even obtain a dial tone.....
[20:47] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic
[20:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:47] <emilsedgh> deuryte: i did have this problem too, but i do not remember how it solved, but search i google, im sure you will get result.
[20:47] <emilsedgh> deuryte: if you didnt, use pppconfig and pon from commandline, they are so easy to use
[20:48] <Xcell> emilsedgh: Would a firewall confged for high speed stop that?
[20:49] <emilsedgh> Xcell: no
[20:49] <Xcell> k
[20:51] <deuryte> ok, had to step out for a sec.  yes, i am currently googling and downloading all the info i can get and putting it on a thumb drive...
[20:51] <sigma> oh does anyone know how far south africa is behind or ahead of the umt time that the tutorials will be held?
[20:52] <stdin> sigma: use www.timeanddate.com to find out
[20:55] <sigma> thanks
[20:56] <crackhead_25__> anyone know, how do you do something like a chkdisk operation on a linux formatted hd? i keep getting input/output errors, and i can't make new directories in this partition, and i think there is something funky going on.. anyone knwo how to fix it??
[20:56] <stdin> !fsck | crackhead_25__
[20:56] <ubotu> crackhead_25__: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[20:58] <greeg> i looked at source-o-matic and ran apt-get update.  now it's on --> reading package lists... 93% for the past few minits. and i can hear my hard drive click'n away.  whats taking so long?
[20:58] <greeg> oh dear.  ctrl-C isnt even killing it.
[20:59] <crackhead_25__> hm.. you think that will fix it, ubotu?
[20:59] <crackhead_25__> stdin: you think fsck will fix it?
[20:59] <sigma> stdin: um according to that website umt doesn't exist, sure its not supposed to be utc?
[20:59] <stdin> crackhead_25__: fsck will fix what it can
[21:00] <stdin> sigma: it does say utc
[21:01] <greeg> i just closed the terminal. and now it is still listed under ps aux?
[21:01] <greeg> whats going on .
[21:01] <greeg> kill -9 doesent do shit.
[21:02] <greeg> considering kde crashed on me this morning, i must say, this linux shit is not the most reliable.
[21:02] <stdin> greeg: watch the language in here
[21:02] <sigma> alrighty im 2 hours ahead
[21:03] <velho_> hello
[21:03] <Lynoure> velho_: anything you need help with?
[21:04] <alakhia> greeg: i used to have problems with things crashing only to find out the root was hardware problems
[21:05]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee
[21:05] <alakhia> greeg: first the cpu was overheating, so i got it out of the cabinet
[21:05] <alakhia> oh well
[21:06] <crackhead_25__> stdin: it doesn't seem tow ork.. i think i need to see which partitions are on that drive.. do you know what program works best for seeing, editing, creating, and deleting partitions ther??
[21:06] <velho_> Lynoure: yes!
[21:06] <alakhia> bazhang: got gmail calendar to sync with kontact ... but had to make my calendar public :(
[21:06] <velho_> my openoffice is not working well in kde
[21:06] <velho_> icons are missing
[21:07] <velho_> anyone can help?
[21:07] <alakhia> bazhang: i thought that since it was asking for my google password, it could access everything without making things public
[21:07] <stdin> crackhead_25__: you can use "sudo fdisk -l" to see all the partitions, if you want to edit them then use qtparted
[21:08] <alakhia> velho_: did it ever work?
[21:08] <Lynoure> velho_: hmm, I think I have heard that one before, but I cannot remember the details. Icons inside the openoffice apps or icons for them? Stardard iconset, or something you switched to yourself? Does  oowriter  and such still start them?
[21:09] <velho_> standard iconset
[21:09] <velho_> and programs are ok
[21:09] <velho_> to use
[21:09] <velho_> but i only see text when i should see icons...
[21:10] <Lynoure> Inside the oo apps, that is?
[21:10] <velho_> and openoffice used to work well
[21:10] <sigma> will synce ever work in kde with windows mobile 5 - and syncekonnector?
[21:10] <velho_> Lynoure: exactly
[21:11] <Lynoure> velho_: do you have package  openoffice.org-style-default  installed?
[21:11] <Don_jr333> I'm needing to find a Java GUI that runs under linux that can show korean text without changing the global text to korean.
[21:12] <Lynoure> velho_: if not, you could try installing it and restarting the apps.
[21:12] <crackhead_25__> stdin: can only one part of a drive partition be "active' at any given time? i have a drive with two partitions and in one partition there is a subdivision i.e. two partitions.. one of the main partitions is ntfs, the other linux.. then within the linux, two ext3 partitions.. right now the ntfs is active, it seems.. and it asks me if i want to make the linux two partitions active.. will that make the ntfs unreadable?
[21:13] <Lynoure> Don_jr333: Java GUI for what?
[21:13] <sub[t]rnl> !apache2
[21:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:13] <sub[t]rnl> !apache
[21:13] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:13] <Don_jr333> for programming in java...
[21:13] <Lynoure> Don_jr333: ah, Java IDE.
[21:13] <Don_jr333> Lynoure oh yeah, IDE not GUI...sorry I"m a dope
[21:13] <Don_jr333> tired
[21:13] <stdin> crackhead_25__: I don't think that matters at all
[21:14] <Don_jr333> Yeah, i've got eclipse, but it won't show the korean text....it won't even open the file
[21:14] <Don_jr333> not sure what else to try.  Korean text shows in MSN names, web pages, file names, but not IN the file anywhere
[21:14] <velho_> Lynoure: i don't have openoffice.org-style-default. i will install it and then i will report if everything is ok
[21:14] <eshat> hi all ,... i just installed compiz-kde ,.,.. where do i activate it
[21:15] <sub[t]rnl> the window decorator? or compiz?
[21:15] <Dodger73> so, i've found a curious error in my xorg.log that points to why fglrx is not working for me (black screen, although X starts fine without displaying anything)
[21:16] <Dodger73> (EE) fglrx(0): [21:16] <eshat> comiz
[21:16] <stdin> eshat: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[21:16] <Dodger73> about 15 times
[21:16] <sub[t]rnl> compiz --replace
[21:16] <Dodger73> anybody seen this before?
[21:16] <genii> make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed before you compiz --replace
[21:16] <crackhead_25__> stdin: thing is, i just noticed the two inactive partitions are not being mounted/loaded in konquerer.. i can't see them or write to them at the moment..
[21:17] <criscracker> khggu
[21:17] <criscracker> aaaaaa
[21:17] <Lynoure> Don_jr333: hmm, unfortunately I don't know which ides support unicode files (I naively assumed most, until now)
[21:17] <jarle> When I first plugged my wireless D-Link adapter into my kubuntu laptop, right clicking the knetworkmanager icon would list all available wireless network, however after running manual configuration, no wireless networks are displayed anymore?
[21:17] <sub[t]rnl> eshat: if ccsm doesn't bring up the settings manager, install the package genii mentioned
[21:18] <criscracker> yirfñiyhgfñyfñ
[21:18] <smooker> hi ppls :)
[21:18] <firecrotch> hello, smooker
[21:18] <stdin> crackhead_25__: that's nothing to do with it, if you want them to be mounted then you need  to add a line for them to /etc/fstab. you can use System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems  to do that
[21:18] <criscracker> hola smooker
[21:18] <stdin> criscracker: what are you doing that for?
[21:18] <smooker> something new around kubuntu ? :P
[21:19] <criscracker> ???
[21:19] <stdin> "[21:18]  <criscracker> yirfñiyhgfñyfñ" < that
[21:19] <criscracker> no hablo ingles
[21:19] <stdin> !es
[21:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:20] <Lynoure> velho_: how did it go?
[21:21] <gn> I want to use teamspeak and would like to give it it's own soundcard to get around oss problems - how would I set this? I have two soundcards and would like it to use the non-default one
[21:22] <mmschnei> hello, I am trying to use gnome's sound-juicer to rip some CD's to MP3's but I cannot seem to get the MP3 formats to come up as a selection to use. I currently can only use FLAC. I am able to edit their properties and they are checked as "active" but I am unable to select them. Anyone have any ideas why?  LAME is installed
[21:23] <velho_> Lynoure: my internet connection is very slow... i'm downloading the packages as he speak
[21:23] <criscracker> ea
[21:24] <newuser> ijust had a fresh install of ubuntu and kde and everything looks as it should but still no web video or sound    can someone help me
[21:24] <newuser> im using 7.10
[21:25] <newuser> this is getting quite frustrated and close to reinstalling windows... can someone please help me
[21:26] <BluesKaj> newuser, what browser ?
[21:27] <wolverine> bonsoir a tous
[21:27] <newuser> i like firefox
[21:27] <BluesKaj> !fr | wolverine
[21:27] <wolverine> yes
[21:27] <wolverine> i'm french
[21:27] <ubotu> wolverine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:27] <wolverine> do you speak french ?
[21:27] <wolverine> thinks
[21:27] <newuser> bluesKaj can you help me
[21:28] <eshat> is there a differnece between klogd and sysklogd ???
[21:28] <wolverine> bye good-evening
[21:28] <stdin> eshat: klogd is the kernel logger, syslogd is the system logger
[21:28] <eshat> stdin: ahh thanks
[21:29] <BluesKaj> newuser , open adept and install flashplugin-nonfree and the latest java version listed ..also libxine1-ffmpeg , w32codecs and libdvdcss2
[21:29] <eshat> i just configured my FN notebook hotkeys, but if I mute volume or increase/decrease sound i don't see this little windows with the volume bar,... any ideas ?
[21:30] <stdin> w32codecs and libdvdcss2 will not be in adept
[21:30] <dmcglone> Hi all
[21:30] <kiiz> please will some one explain the dependencies stated in packages.ubuntu.com.i am new to all this
[21:30] <Xcell> dmcglone: Howdy.
[21:31] <dmcglone> whats up X. I got banned friday for that little stunt I pulled. :-)
[21:31] <Xcell> lol  saw that
[21:31] <newuser> wow that was like a lot of greek to me.... I get the flashpart and maybe the java through synaptic but the also I dont think i understand
[21:32] <eshat> i just configured my FN notebook hotkeys, but if I mute volume or increase/decrease sound i don't see this little windows with the volume bar,... any ideas ?
[21:32] <Xcell> We all chuckled about it
[21:32] <dmcglone> LOL
[21:32] <Walkboss> Can someone please assist me with some iptables madness?
[21:32] <kiiz> i don't have an internet connection and have to download packges manually
[21:32] <BluesKaj> oh yeah , sorry newuser , you'll have to open adept/manage repositories and X in all the boxes on the kubuntu software tab and the thirdparty software tab
[21:33] <sub[t]rnl> Walkboss: whats your problem?
[21:33] <eshat> where can i add kmix to autostart ?
[21:33] <fignew> newuser: let's first see if your sound works... open up konsole and type in cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[21:33] <sub[t]rnl> !autostart | eshat
[21:33] <ubotu> eshat: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[21:33] <newuser> ok ill give it a try
[21:34] <Walkboss> sub, can you tell me how to do that "User: message" thing?
[21:34] <eshat> sub[t]rnl: thanks
[21:34] <fignew> newuser: BTW, press ctrl + c to end the test
[21:35] <scrash08> In kmail, where do I set the *default* attachment forwarding to be "inline"? The *option* is there, but the default currently is "as attachment".  Googl'ing I find scads of arguments back and forth, but haven't found the answer yet ...
[21:36] <kiiz> please will some one explain the dependencies stated in packages.ubuntu.com.i am new to all this.i don't have an internet connection and have to download packges manually
[21:36] <crimsun> kiiz: see also the 'aptoncd' package.
[21:39] <Walkboss> I guess I'll go ahead then...
[21:39] <velho> newuser: did it went well?
[21:39] <Walkboss> I need to drop RST packets sent from Comcast. I have a list of the iptables rules that are supposed to do that, but they haven't remedied the problem
[21:39] <Walkboss> I assume I didn't implement them correctly
[21:40] <crimsun> ...
[21:40] <crimsun> I really hope you're joking.
[21:40] <Walkboss> I?
[21:40] <crimsun> Walkboss: yes.
[21:40] <Walkboss> No sir
[21:40] <Walkboss> If I'm mistaken, please let me know
[21:40] <Walkboss> I want to the bottom of this
[21:40] <firecrotch> Walkboss:  I'm assuming you're trying to prevent Comcast's throttling?
[21:41] <Walkboss> Yep
[21:41] <kiiz> crimsun: thanks.but do i have to download all files listed under its dependencies
[21:41] <eshat> my function keys work but i see no volume bar when changing volume ,... please help me
[21:41] <firecrotch> well, it will only work if you AND everyone else is dropping the RST packers
[21:41] <firecrotch> *packets
[21:41] <crimsun> Walkboss: you're -on- Comcast.  If you drop RSTs from Comcast, you'll break yourself.
[21:41] <firecrotch> otherwise they'll still get them and the connection will be dropped
[21:42] <Walkboss> I know it has to be implemented both sides
[21:42] <eshat> HELP. i also have no menu entry for kcontrol ,... did i forget to install a package ???
[21:43] <firecrotch> Walkboss:  the better solution would be to switch to an ISP that doesn't throttle BT
[21:43] <Walkboss> I wish
[21:44] <Walkboss> If that's the better solution, then I'll just have to not use BT
[21:44] <eshat> why is there no menu entry for kcontrol ?
[21:44] <stdin> eshat: kubuntu uses system settings by default
[21:45] <stdin> you can still start kcontrol via Alt-F2
[21:45] <stdin> or add it to the menu
[21:47] <bEbeShoChKa> kfo staa we
[21:47] <bEbeShoChKa> shmatki
[21:47] <bEbeShoChKa> ;]
[21:47] <XtazY> crackhead_25_
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> DrUnKnMuNkY:
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> DrUnKnMuNkY
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> emanuel
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> djdarkman_
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> deci
[21:48] <stdin> bEbeShoChKa: what are you doing
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> nothing
[21:48] <bEbeShoChKa> ;]
[21:48] <emanuel> :-S
[21:49] <bEbeShoChKa> what do you want ?
[21:49] <stdin> watching you do "nothing"
[21:49] <bEbeShoChKa> xxaxaaxxaxa
[21:49] <bEbeShoChKa> cool
[21:49] <bEbeShoChKa> :)
[21:49] <bEbeShoChKa> emanuel {}
[21:49] <emanuel> Thanks!
[21:49] <emanuel> :D
[21:50]  * sub[t]rnl adds a tally to the chalk board
[21:50] <bEbeShoChKa> ok baby {}
[21:50] <sub[t]rnl> bEbeShoChKa: #kubuntu-offtopic if you want to goof around
[21:52] <santi> ll
[21:55] <newuser> sorry    had to break for dinner    Im back and will do the test now.
[21:56] <BluesKaj> !restricted packages | newuser
[21:56] <kiiz> does any one know of a package like aptoncd but works on windows
[21:56] <BluesKaj> !restricted-packages | newuser
[21:56] <BluesKaj> bummer
[21:57] <BluesKaj> !info restricted-packages
[21:57] <ubotu> Package restricted-packages does not exist in gutsy
[21:57] <BluesKaj> !media
[21:57] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[21:57] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[21:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:58] <BluesKaj> aha
[21:58] <newuser> ok    I did the test and I think it is looking for something that may not exist... I have a black term window and the white cursur no action
[21:58] <killermach> I need to create another user and  Administrator mode does not let me stay in administrator mode in System Settings->Users
[21:58] <newuser> fignew
[21:59] <fignew> do you hear any sound?
[21:59] <newuser> no
[21:59] <killermach> anyone have some advice on that? fresh 7.10 install and I'm using the user I created on install
[21:59] <fignew> ok, press ctrl+c
[21:59] <BluesKaj> !restricted formats | newuser
[21:59] <ubotu> newuser: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:59] <fignew> and run alsamixer
[21:59] <fignew> make sure the channels are up
[22:00] <BluesKaj> and unmuted
[22:00] <BluesKaj> to umute use the M key
[22:00] <BluesKaj> unmute
[22:00] <Lynoure> velho: I hope it worked for you... I'll need to get some sleep now. If it did not, feel free to message me about it, and I'll get back to you when I'm awake and at the computer
[22:01] <Bawbatos>  simple issue, i thought however i have not been able to fix it. i have a wide screen lcd, display is 1680x1050. xorg cfgs for 1600x1200 which looks like crap. i edited the xorg.conf file and removed the everything res wise just putting in 1680x1050 however it is ignored and just comes up at 1600x1200
[22:01] <velho> Lynoure: ok
[22:01] <Bawbatos> anyone have any pointers
[22:01] <newuser> how do I "run" alsamixer
[22:01] <velho> Lynoure: yes its working
[22:01] <velho> Lynoure: thank you SO MUCH
[22:01] <fignew> newuser: just type it in the konsole
[22:01] <newuser> ok
[22:02] <velho> Lynoure: have a goodnight sleep
[22:02] <velho> ;)
[22:02] <newuser> alsamixer
[22:02] <BluesKaj> type ' alsamixer ' in the terminal
[22:02] <newuser> command not found
[22:02] <Lynoure> velho: That's nice to hear :)
[22:02] <fignew> gah, not installed by default
[22:03] <newuser> it is or it isn't installed by default\
[22:03] <fignew> newuser: type in sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[22:03] <fignew> it isn't
[22:03] <newuser> gotta take the damn dog out to relieve...  ok ill do that first then take him out'
[22:03] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[22:04] <BluesKaj> ok too many i cooks here . I'll back off
[22:04] <newuser> ok its installed
[22:05] <newuser> I see unable to fetch some archives\
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know how well Creative's mp3 players work with Amarok (or Kubuntu in general)?
[22:05] <fignew> newuser: ok
[22:06] <fignew> BluesKaj: hmm alsamixergui is an X11 app ;/
[22:06] <newuser> could not resolve    us.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:06] <fignew> newuser: do you see the speaker icon in the bottom right taskbar
[22:06] <newuser> noi
[22:06] <newuser> no
[22:07] <fignew> is this a laptop?
[22:07] <killermach> I need to create new users on a fresh 7.10 install
[22:07] <newuser> the network somehow got disconnected
[22:07] <Don_jr333> what is the command to search my file system for a specific phrase? grep?
[22:07] <BluesKaj> alsamixer gui is gnome
[22:07] <killermach> but when I click Administrator mode, it goes away,
[22:08] <fignew> newuser: don't sweat the apt-get command, it never installed it, and I made a mistake, that isn't the right program to install
[22:08] <BluesKaj> it will run on kde , I've used it
[22:08] <dmcglone> Hello
[22:08] <dmcglone> I just found out i'm a troll
[22:08] <Don_jr333> oh goodness.  What is the all in 1 dev package that ubuntu offers?  I can't remember the name
[22:08] <newuser> ok,,,  what now
[22:08] <fignew> BluesKaj: could you help out newuser I gotta get going
[22:08] <BluesKaj> ok, fignew
[22:09] <newuser> hi blue
[22:09] <PriceChild> !offtopic | dmcglone
[22:09] <ubotu> dmcglone: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:09] <stdin> Don_jr333: you mean build-essential ?
[22:09] <dmcglone> Oh geeez now I get the 3rd from you.
[22:09] <BluesKaj> newuser, type alsamixer in the terminal
[22:10] <sourcemaker> should I use the "file" or "directory" format to store my contacts in kontact?
[22:10] <Don_jr333> stdin yes that's it, thank you
[22:10] <dmcglone> stdin, did I do anything? I think I got in trouble.
[22:11] <newuser> BluesKaj  i have to apt get it first\
[22:11] <LjL> dmcglone, nevermind. rather, do you have a kubuntu support question?
[22:11] <stdin> dmcglone: this channel is kubuntu support only, no offtopic discussion
[22:11] <dmcglone> LjL, I was going to help with questions
[22:11] <LjL> dmcglone: sure. good luck - keep it on topic.
[22:12] <dmcglone> I was just saying Hi to everyone
[22:12] <BluesKaj> ok newuser, in the terminal : sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[22:12] <newuser> ok it looks as it is installed... I saw it reading and deferred processing now taking place... ok Im ready to run it\
[22:13] <newuser> how do I run it... I typed alsamixer in terminal and got no such file or directory
[22:13] <Bawbatos> i need the same order every time for a firewall
[22:13] <Bawbatos> sorry. wrong window
[22:13] <Don_jr333> and how can I get this to stop asking for my CD when I use apt-get?
[22:13] <newuser> ok I found it in the menu and it is loading
[22:14] <dmcglone> Don, uncheck the CD in your sources list
[22:14] <BluesKaj> newuser, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[22:15] <Don_jr333> thank you dmcglone and how would I go about searching my system for a specific file/phrase
[22:15] <newuser> the specified library arts could not be found
[22:15] <killermach> ok. got an error from kdesudo about no arguments being supplied when I clicked Administrator mode in User Management,  this is a fresh 7.10 install I'm using the user created on install, anyone know how to fix this?
[22:15] <sourcemaker> should I use the "file" or "directory" format to store my contacts in kontact? When adding a new book, I can select between different types of formats? This format should I use?
[22:15] <dmcglone> use adept
[22:15] <dmcglone> in the sources menu I think
[22:16] <Don_jr333> adept will search for java in my system files and show me the files with java int their names?
[22:16] <newuser> The diagnostics is:   libasound.so.2 cannot open shared objict file:no such file or directory
[22:16] <dmcglone> it's under the menu adept/manage repositories
[22:17] <dmcglone> oh yeah, just type java in the search bar
[22:17] <newuser> BluesKaj are you still with me
[22:17] <BluesKaj> yup
[22:17] <Don_jr333> I'm not looking to search for installations, just any file in my system that has the word java in it's name
[22:18] <dmcglone> sudo find / -name java
[22:18] <newuser> Think you canhelp me figure this out
[22:18] <Don_jr333> thank you
[22:18] <BluesKaj> did you follow my entry above newuser /
[22:18] <BluesKaj> ?
[22:18] <Thylio> How  can i change my  taskbar?
[22:19] <dmcglone> how do you want it changedd Thylio?
[22:20] <newuser> yes, when I clicked on sound it takes me to a new open window   sound system-system settings         The specified library arts could not be found..   The diagnostics is:libasound.so.2 cannot open shared object file:No file or directory
[22:20] <Thylio> dmcglone: I want a log bar whit "two tasks" i the hight, on the top of my screen:p
[22:21] <sourcemaker> should I use the "file" or "directory" format to store my contacts in kontact? No answers here?
[22:21] <dmcglone> i'm lost thylio, can you rephrase that question?
[22:21] <newuser> also it says   possible reasons    An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module            or       You have old third party modules lying around
[22:21] <newuser> Did you get that BluesKaj\\\
[22:22] <LaserJock> anybody know what the preferred source for KDE4 is for gutsy? PPA or -backports?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> yes , newuser
[22:22] <newuser> what do you think
[22:23] <BluesKaj> ok, do you have synaptic pkg manager?
[22:23] <newuser> y
[22:23] <Thylio> dmcglone: basicly i want a big taskbar at the top of my screen, not at the bottom. and i want k-meny, storage media/home folder, clock exc. at the bottom.
[22:24] <newuser> up and running\\
[22:24] <dmcglone> thylio, right click on kicker and go to add new pannel
[22:24] <newuser> pkg manager that is\
[22:25] <dmcglone> add what you want and then drag it to the top of the screen then arrange your stuff on it how you want
[22:25] <BluesKaj> open synaptic , edit/fix broken packages/apply if the "apply " is highlighted
[22:25] <derdui> Hi
[22:25] <Thylio> dmcglone: Okay. thx
[22:25] <newuser> not highlighted
[22:26] <Thylio> dmcglone: how do i remove the taskbar from the kmenu bar?=s
[22:27] <newuser> This is Killin me... I have gutsy 7.10 on my desktop and it really is the BEST!!!!   but I cant get it on my laptop as good....
[22:27] <BluesKaj> newuser , how did you upgrade to gutsy ?
[22:27] <dmcglone> right click on the little bar on the very left side of it and choose remove
[22:27] <newuser> I used the iso and burned a disc\
[22:27] <Thylio> dmcglone: aaaah...   Thx!
[22:28] <dmcglone> no prob.
[22:29] <newuser> Its fine on my desktop and it was good on my laptop yesterday but I had some unexplained and forgotten problems with it so I reformatted the laptop and reinstalled the disx today and all is good with the exception of the sound and web video]\
[22:30] <dmcglone> !register nick
[22:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register nick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:30] <BluesKaj> ok, let's see if your soundcard is even listed in the hardware : cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:32] <Don_jr333> to register a nick /msg nickserv
[22:32] <newuser> my term icon is bouncing and now has dissappeared     the term window did not come up\
[22:32] <dmcglone> all I get with that is a blank window
[22:33] <dmcglone> I was reading the page above, I don't see anything about registering.
[22:33] <newuser> I CANT GET IN THE TERMINAL WINdow     and sorry for yelling\
[22:34] <dmcglone> newuser, ctrl + alt + esc and see if one is already running and kill it.
[22:34] <dmcglone> then try again
[22:36] <BluesKaj> newuser, write the command down cat /proc/asound/cards and type it after you logon the TTY , which we need to do to get the terminal back .. if you got the terminal back ignore this but if not, ctrl+alt+F2
[22:36] <newuser> not able to start a term and I now have a blank black window]
[22:37] <newuser> my son and I have the exact same new toshiba satalite computers...  He has typed in his term and it was able to see the intel hardware.... we do have the same issues
[22:38] <dmcglone> what do I type in the blank window to register my nick?
[22:39] <newuser> ok
[22:39] <newuser> I also have the hardware     Intel   HDA-intel
[22:40] <LjL> !register
[22:40] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:40] <snarkster> hi again, Im trying to watch a backup iso of a dvd i made.  But the image is all messed up.. I know the iso is good as I checked it on a different computer. Where would I find libdvdcss as it doesnt show up in the repo
[22:40] <BluesKaj> newuser, ok to get back to the desktop after running the command , ctrl+alt+F7
[22:41] <newuser> ok   but I do have a black background\
[22:41] <BluesKaj> !restricted formats | snarkster
[22:41] <ubotu> snarkster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:41] <dmcglone> thanks LjL
[22:42] <newuser> should I restart
[22:42] <BluesKaj> yes
[22:42] <zr> hello, suppose I have two soundcards on my computer; both are recognized correctly, but the one I use is the second one (/dev/audio1). How do I set that card as the deafult
[22:43] <zr> *default
[22:43] <laurence> hey, does anyone know how to use webcam in kopete?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> zr, sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[22:44] <zr> BluesKaj: thanks, but what is the "
[22:44] <zr> "name of soundcard"
[22:44] <zr> is it the device number?
[22:45] <zr> oh, found out
[22:45] <zr> thanks
[22:45] <BluesKaj> zr, vwhatever soundcard you want to use ...find the name with this command : cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:46] <zr> BluesKaj: works, thanks
[22:46] <BluesKaj> yw :)
[22:47] <newuser> ok I have restarted the laptop and I cant even get to the desktop... It looks like my password has changed somehow
[22:48] <newuser> I am at the desktop but cannot do anything that requires my password....    I cant connect to the internet\]\
[22:48] <zr> newuser: sudo su
[22:49] <newuser> my terminal will not come up    I get the bouncy icon and then it quits\
[22:50] <zr> newuser: what terminal would that be?
[22:50] <Kite_DH> bouncy icon :> how cute
[22:50] <johnficca> hi I have a problem with Konqueror I do like it but it gets stuck loading web pages sometimes and times out, then I have to hit the refreash button and hope it doesn't do it again...is there a way to fix this?
[22:50] <siderma> hy all
[22:50] <trpr> zr: fyi sudo -s does the same thing .. not really certain if there is any reason to use one over the other
[22:50] <siderma> i have real problems installing mysql
[22:50] <newuser> the only one I know of....   I used cntl alt f2 and am in the temp terminal
[22:50] <siderma> doea anyone have time to help me
[22:50] <newuser> I now am signed in as root in the temp term
[22:50] <siderma> ?
[22:50] <zr> trpr: didn't know that, I always used sudo su
[22:51] <BluesKaj> can you open adept or synaptic , newuser?
[22:51] <newuser> ill try
[22:51] <newuser> requires password and I cant use my password   telling me wrong pass\
[22:52] <newuser> does the same for any funtion that requires a password
[22:52] <newuser> not true,,,,  IM IN THE SYNAPTIC MANAGER NOW
[22:52] <ricanelite> anyone here is using KDE 4?
[22:53] <newuser> there are no broken packages\
[22:53] <newuser> Yes    I am in synaptic      what now???
[22:53] <BluesKaj> ok open  search and type konsole , reinstall if necessary
[22:53] <johnficca> I am using Kubuntu 7.10
[22:54] <johnficca> how do I turn off ipv6
[22:54] <johnficca> ?
[22:54] <newuser> ok    reinstalling now';'
[22:54] <stdin> !ipv6 | johnficca
[22:54] <ubotu> johnficca: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[22:54] <ricanelite> i just installed Kubuntu but was reading about there is going to be a new KDE Destop coming out later this year. Which is it beta right now
[22:55] <trpr> ricanelite: i think the release was bumped into january
[22:55] <ricanelite> oo ok
[22:55] <ricanelite> which anyways I have a question I'm trying to run Amarok but it runs very slow. I have a fast machine
[22:56] <newuser> ok, , ,, ,, reinstalled and no change in the reaction of the terminal icon... Still bouncing and then stops without opening\
[22:57] <posingaspopular> ricanelite: you can try reinstalling amarok
[22:57] <posingaspopular> that might work
[22:58] <BluesKaj> i think drastic measures are required newuser ... but i don't know how to help short of suggesting you do another clean install
[22:59] <obsidian> anybody have a problem with certain kde apps segfaulting, straight out of a clean install?
[22:59] <newuser> Thats what i feared the most..... ok   thanks for all the help and time you guys put into it anyway/
[23:00] <Bawbatos> what is a good kde gui for iptables
[23:00] <posingaspopular> firestarter Bawbatos
[23:00] <Bawbatos> thanks
[23:00] <obsidian> it's weird, everything is working very well
[23:00] <Don_jr333> How can I get korean text to show up in text editor without having to change my global language to korean?
[23:01] <obsidian> I just have the two things, kate, and software-properties-kde, segfault on every startup
[23:01] <obsidian> i've been looking at the stacktraces and there is no obvious cause
[23:01] <BluesKaj> newuser, someone else more knowledgeable may be able help you ...I'm just not well enuff informed yet
[23:02] <zr> sorry, what what the command to change default soundcard again?
[23:02] <zr> -what +was
[23:02] <BluesKaj> zr, sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[23:03] <newuser> well I appreciate your time trying anyway thx
[23:03] <obsidian> I tried rebuilding kdebase
[23:03] <obsidian> now I am working on a rebuild of glibc
[23:03] <zr> BluesKaj: thanks again
[23:03] <obsidian> I guess I will have to debug this line by line
[23:03] <obsidian> I just can't believe I am getting a segfault from THE text editor on a clean install
[23:03] <obsidian> I take it it's just me?
[23:03] <Don_jr333> No one know's how to show korean text in a text editor on kubuntu?
[23:07] <Don_jr333> how do I search my system files for a specific file name?
[23:09] <brad__> use "locate" to find files
[23:09] <Don_jr333> thank you brad_
[23:10] <eVipere> Hey, anyone know where the option to change the window manager to emerald is at?
[23:11] <brad__> you can also use "which" if you are looking for an executable that is in your path
[23:14] <lovedeatm> floppy:/u not recognixed...kubuntu says its not supported
[23:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i dont recall a floppy:/ kioslave.
[23:15] <Dr_willis> then again -i have no floppy disks any more
[23:16] <lovedeatm> dr_willis, lol...well my comp still has the drive and if i type in floppy:/a i can get a normal floppy drive
[23:16] <Dr_willis> where is this /a comming from ?
[23:17] <Dr_willis> system:/media  should be showing it - would be my guess.
[23:17] <Dr_willis> Or mount the darn thing manually :)
[23:17] <lovedeatm> dr_willis, its the shortcut to acess your floppy drive system if you have mtools installed
[23:18] <safe> what is the program I need to detect wireless signals in kubuntu?
[23:18] <lovedeatm> dr_willis, i using usb for my ipod which is already having its own issues....yeah
[23:18] <lovedeatm> safe, wlan is what i use...it should already be installed under internet apps
[23:19] <Don_jr333> Everything I find says I should have korean lang/fonts installed by default with kubuntu, but they don't show up right for me...
[23:19] <lovedeatm> dr_willis, how do you munt manually? and by anychance what do you know of ipods?
[23:20]  * Dr_willis uses hammers on ipods.
[23:20] <Dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/THISDIRMUSTEXISTBEFORHAND -t filesystem
[23:20] <posingaspopular> safe: knetworkmanager
[23:21] <safe> posingaspopular: the network card works ok but what do i use to see the wireless signals with?
[23:22] <posingaspopular> safe: the program is called knetworkmanager
[23:22] <safe> ok, thanks
[23:22] <posingaspopular> kmenu-> add/remove programs or you can do 'sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager' in a terminal
[23:22] <posingaspopular> i suggest the add/remove programs way
[23:22] <lovedeatm> dr_willis, k and try not to smash my ipod....
[23:23] <safe> posingaspopular: i have no network connection
[23:24] <safe> nevermind
[23:24] <safe> thanks
[23:27] <posingaspopular> np
[23:27] <Don_jr333> I can get kde menu's to show in korean, but it won't show korean text in kate.....
[23:27] <Don_jr333> this is annoying
[23:27] <posingaspopular> Don_jr333: why dont you ask in the korean chan?
[23:27] <blizzzek> gn8
[23:28] <Don_jr333> Cause I don't speak or read korean, I just need to be able to see the korean texts in a text editor or java compiler
[23:28] <matttis> hi
[23:28] <Don_jr333> guess it can't hurt to see if anyone there speaks english, what's the channel?
[23:28] <matttis> kdm isnt starting, what can I do _
[23:28] <Manad> hi...just installed kunbutu. LOVE IT!
[23:29] <firecrotch> Manad: welcome! great to hear!
[23:29] <Manad> I'm not shallow or anything, but a great presentation counts for a lot in a desktop OS.
[23:29] <Don_jr333> what's the korean channel for kubuntu kor?
[23:30] <posingaspopular> matttis: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[23:30] <brad__> Don_jr333:  you have to use an input method app like skim
[23:30] <posingaspopular> i *think*
[23:30] <Don_jr333> brad__ I have skim, how do I use it?
[23:30] <chas> hello
[23:30] <Don_jr333> I click the little icon down there nad it does nothing
[23:30] <matttis> posingaspopular: no, i would have to change some settings
[23:31] <chas> I've got an interesting problem
[23:31] <Manad> just one question: I'm looking at KDE System Guard, and it says "104 processes"...am I really running 104 processes, or is that the total processes available on the computer?
[23:31] <brad__> i used this to set up japanse:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Japanese_Input_and_Fonts_in_Ubuntu_7.04
[23:31] <brad__> should be similar for korean
[23:31] <Don_jr333> thanks
[23:32] <brad__> this looks good also:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu
[23:32] <Don_jr333> great, I appriciate it. I've been digging and couldnt' find it
[23:33] <zr> once I installed compiz, where do I activate the desktop effects?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[23:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:33] <mlang> hi, how can i add windows on a striped raid drive to my grub menu? windows is on sda1 and sda2
[23:33] <zr> thanks
[23:33] <Dr_willis> You have to run compiz --replace and perhaps emerald --replacve i belive
[23:35] <altg> hie all
[23:36] <altg> is there any body there ??
[23:36] <Manad> Let's say I wanted to have torrents running on my account, but other users need to use the computer. How do I let them login to their accounts without logging off myself?
[23:36] <safe> i dont see any wi-fi networks in the manager even though my wi fi is on???
[23:36] <chas> should be able to go to k menu and hit switch user
[23:36] <altg> yep, use switch user !!
[23:37] <Manad> "lock current and start new session" or "start new session"?
[23:37] <chas> the former
[23:37] <Manad> thank you
[23:37] <altg> think the first one, ask ur password to reconnect and the second not !?!
[23:39] <altg> do u know if it's normal that adept don't ask any root pass in new 7.10 Gutsy ???
[23:41] <pastor> holas a todos
[23:42] <pastor> alguien habla español?
[23:42] <posingaspopular> !es
[23:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:43] <pastor> gracias
[23:49] <Manad> if I wanted to have a folder accessible by all users on the machine, where should I put it?
[23:50] <oobe> anywhere you just need to change the permissions
[23:50] <oobe> /usr/share would work
[23:50] <Manad> I know, but are there guidelines? Is it a bad idea to create a new root folder?
[23:50] <Manad> allright, that'll work
[23:50] <Manad> thanks
[23:53] <altg> do u know if it's normal that adept don't ask any root pass in new 7.10 Gutsy ???
[23:53] <obsidian> anybody else getting segfaults on certain commands??
[23:54] <oobe> altg, there is no root password configured
[23:54] <oobe> altg, you can use sudo to set a root passwd
[23:55] <altg> for my desktop i did an upgrade to gutsy and it's ok for the pass !!!
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> altg- it should, though I've noticed that kdesudo saves your password briefly, just like sudo
[23:55] <altg> but for my laptop i just do a new install of gtsy
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> So if you opened something else that requires sudo a few minutes earlier, it may have had your access saved
[23:56] <zr> !compiz
[23:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:57] <altg> and during install, nowhere there is root pass asked
[23:57] <altg> no, i didn'n open any else that require sudo before
[23:58] <altg> just fist time use kwallet to record my wifi wep key
[23:58] <newuser> OK OK I have finished reinstalling ubuntu 7.10 again and now I'm updadting the software that was initially detected by thesystem...   I', not 100% sure how to get the KDE installed on the system if someone could help me with that and keep your fingers crossed as to if I will have sound this time....  Also, there was a problem with the web video and of course sound when in ANY browser.... Installation is almost done... Any knowledgea
[23:58] <oobe> but *ubuntu doesnt ask for a root password during install it only asks you so make a user password
[23:58] <newuser> ble people PLEASE get me through this install... Thanks...  ooo  it is configuring sound juicer right now...  :)