| jussi01 | PriceChild: got a min? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| PriceChild | jussi01, yeah sure | 00:17 |
| tonyyarusso | PriceChild: what do you mean a script to log hilights? What crazy client do you use where that's not default? | 00:18 |
| crdlb | PriceChild: btw that's a script for irssi to give you a proper channel list | 00:18 |
| tonyyarusso | crdlb: hrm? | 00:19 |
| PriceChild | tonyyarusso, xchat... I just want to be able to have a little window that gives me all my hilights and channels since i've been away. | 00:19 |
| PriceChild | crdlb, pfft its gotta be crackful | 00:19 |
| tonyyarusso | PriceChild: irssi gives you a list in the server window automatically when you /away to come back | 00:19 |
| PriceChild | tonyyarusso, I know :) | 00:19 |
| tonyyarusso | PriceChild: I'm a wee bit surprised at XChat... | 00:20 |
| crdlb | PriceChild: nah not really :) | 00:23 |
| * Seeker` has a seperate "hilight" window in irssi | 00:24 | |
| * Seeker` hasn't had any hilights yet today :( | 00:24 | |
| jussi01 | Seeker`: :P | 00:25 |
| Seeker` | woo :P | 00:25 |
| PriceChild | crdlb, linky? | 00:25 |
| * jussi01 -> bed | 00:25 | |
| Seeker` | night | 00:26 |
| === crdlb_ is now known as crdlb | ||
| crdlb | PriceChild: http://archive.f0rked.com/screenshots/irssi20051016.png | 00:30 |
| PriceChild | cool, link to that script? | 00:32 |
| crdlb | http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi | 00:32 |
| crdlb | search it for "awl" | 00:32 |
| jdong | PriceChild: you mean marmalade? | 00:33 |
| nalioth | crdlb: what does that do? | 00:33 |
| crdlb | adds a window list to show activity instead of the [Act: 2,4,5,9,12,13,42] thing | 00:33 |
| nalioth | ah | 00:35 |
| * nalioth has his numbers memorized | 00:35 | |
| * tonyyarusso too, or at least the vast majority of them | 00:35 | |
| * Pici three | 00:35 | |
| crdlb | I used to know them before I started using that script :) | 00:35 |
| === Pumpernickle is now known as Pumpernickel | ||
| nalioth | does it change the window order? | 00:36 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: Also, search for "Hilight Window" on the same page - it gives you a small window at the top of the screen showing only the hilights | 00:37 |
| PriceChild | Seeker`, I know how to do that bit thanks :) | 00:37 |
| Seeker` | nalioth: No, but it gives them names, so you have less need to remember them | 00:37 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: oh, sorry | 00:37 |
| nalioth | Seeker`: crdlb: what does it do if you have 83 windows open? | 00:37 |
| crdlb | takes up half the screen :p | 00:38 |
| nalioth | right. | 00:38 |
| * nalioth will stick with his numbers | 00:38 | |
| Seeker` | nalioth: I'm not silly enough to be in that many channels :D | 00:38 |
| nalioth | well, i go where i'm needed | 00:39 |
| Seeker` | I dont know how someone could keep track of 83 windows | 00:39 |
| * jdong wishes irssi would use a hex numbering system to save space :D | 00:40 | |
| Seeker` | heh | 00:40 |
| Seeker` | my windows go from 1-9, then 0, then q-o, then it starts at 20 | 00:40 |
| Seeker` | I haven't worked out how to select window 20 yet | 00:41 |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: rofl - it would only save space if you had >100 | 00:41 |
| tonyyarusso | or <16 | 00:41 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: meh I'm no number theory freak but I think even as long as int(n/10) > int(n/16) you win | 00:42 |
| nalioth | 0_0 | 00:42 |
| * nalioth just loaded awl | 00:42 | |
| jdong | nalioth: screen shot! | 00:42 |
| * nalioth just unloaded awl | 00:42 | |
| crdlb | hah | 00:42 |
| nalioth | not for me, but thanks for the info | 00:43 |
| PriceChild | haha :) | 00:43 |
| Seeker` | how do I select window 20? | 00:44 |
| PriceChild | /win 20 | 00:44 |
| crdlb | /win 20? :) | 00:44 |
| nalioth | Seeker`: depends on how you set your client up | 00:44 |
| crdlb | I use alt+a for getting to those windows a lot | 00:44 |
| * nalioth can't answer any of those questions, cuz his irssi is not really standard any more . . . . | 00:44 | |
| * Seeker` uses esc+# to get to windows atm | 00:45 | |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: wouldn't that work out to the same as what I said for all hyperion-allowable values of n? | 00:46 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: AAAAHH MY HEAD *SMACK* | 00:46 |
| * tonyyarusso ponders | 00:48 | |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: Nah, your equation is buggy | 00:54 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: wouldn't be surprised | 00:54 |
| no0tic | tonyyarusso, valenzetti equation? | 00:54 |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: if n=30, int(n/10)=3, int(n/16)=1, 3>1, but the hexadecimal representation (1e) takes the same number of digits to display (2). | 00:56 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: ok then I think we need to use log16 vs log10 of n | 00:57 |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: yeah, in some fashion or another I'm sure it needs a log | 00:57 |
| no0tic | probably with lastlog you can manage to do something | 01:01 |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: You gain if int(log(n)/log(10)) < int(log(n)/log(16)) (domain of function is n>0) | 01:11 |
| tonyyarusso | ie, decimal values 10-15, 100-256, 1000-4096, 10000-65536. | 01:12 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: sounds reasonable. | 01:15 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: now the question is, what ranges do you lose? | 01:15 |
| tonyyarusso | jdong: none. You can only be equal or better. | 01:16 |
| tonyyarusso | So in that sense, sure, I guess it helps. | 01:16 |
| jdong | :) | 01:18 |
| tonyyarusso | Why are we having this discussion again? :P | 01:19 |
| jdong | lol | 01:21 |
| PriceChild | because you are nerds | 01:22 |
| jdong | tonyyarusso: to pave the way for base64 irssi window numbering :) | 01:22 |
| jdong | PriceChild: and you aren't. | 01:22 |
| tonyyarusso | haha | 01:22 |
| PriceChild | jdong, no, i'm a geek | 01:22 |
| PriceChild | there is an incredible difference | 01:22 |
| * Seeker` is a geek, and proud of it | 01:22 | |
| jdong | PriceChild: incredulous difference to me. | 01:22 |
| PriceChild | jdong, pish posh | 01:22 |
| jdong | PriceChild: hah another britishism :) | 01:22 |
| jdong | keep em coming | 01:22 |
| PriceChild | twss | 01:23 |
| PriceChild | I thought you'd like it. | 01:23 |
| jdong | PriceChild: I do :) | 01:23 |
| Seeker` | whats so good about britishisms? | 01:26 |
| PriceChild | they're..... british! | 01:27 |
| Seeker` | jolly good | 01:27 |
| jdong | smashing good laugh I dare say | 01:29 |
| Seeker` | tally-ho | 01:29 |
| nalioth | jimmacdonald: can we help you ? | 01:34 |
| nalioth | inpho: can we help you? | 01:35 |
| nalioth | K`Tetch: can we help you? | 01:35 |
| PriceChild | mhatcher, can we help you? | 01:37 |
| * MenZa hides behind tonyyarusso | 01:37 | |
| * tonyyarusso gives MenZa a cookie | 01:40 | |
| MenZa | :D | 01:40 |
| === rob1 is now known as rob | ||
| ubotu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 02:08 |
| ubotu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 02:08 |
| ubotu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 02:08 |
| ctothej | someone test me please | 02:14 |
| ctothej | and let me know if i can join the chan again | 02:14 |
| nalioth | did you follow the instructions, ctothej ? | 02:14 |
| ctothej | yep, port 8001 for pidgin | 02:15 |
| nalioth | ok | 02:15 |
| ctothej | anything beyond that? | 02:15 |
| nalioth | ctothej: you're good to go, thanks for putting up with us :) | 02:16 |
| ctothej | sure... thanks | 02:16 |
| ubotu | ardchoille called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic (Kr4t05 Wants some attention i here and #kubuntu) | 03:03 |
| nalioth | taken care of | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | thanks nalioth | 03:13 |
| ubotu | GionnyBoss called the ops in #ubuntu (Anastasia_- sends ads on join) | 04:26 |
| tonyyarusso | confirmed, removed | 04:26 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: poke us, please | 04:29 |
| tonyyarusso | nalioth: ah, right. sorry. | 04:29 |
| tonyyarusso | nalioth: it looks like a virus/trojan masquerading as porn. | 04:30 |
| nalioth | i'm not worried about the content, i just want to remove the irritant from the network | 04:30 |
| nalioth | tonyyarusso: your ban is now removable | 04:30 |
| tonyyarusso | okay, ty | 04:30 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-bugs, persia said: ubotu: bugsquad is <reply> The Ubuntu BugSquad is the first point of contact for bugs filed about Ubuntu. For more information, please see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad. Documentation about processes is available from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs. Also see the /topic of #ubuntu-bugs. | 07:04 |
| jussi01 | good morning all | 10:08 |
| jussi01 | !feisty-#kubuntu | 15:12 |
| ubotu | Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php | 15:12 |
| Tm_T | meh | 15:12 |
| jussi01 | A little out of date... | 15:12 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: go back to your hole... :P | 15:12 |
| ubotu | MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Premium5pam) | 15:16 |
| Tm_T | mmmmmh | 15:17 |
| Tm_T | the lonely channel without my powers, oh well :--P | 15:17 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: that guy in #kubuntu loves you... :P | 15:25 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: he does | 15:25 |
| jussi01 | hehe... why is it that people get so grumpy? | 15:26 |
| Tm_T | who knows | 15:26 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: awww, he quit from irc because of me :( | 15:27 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu, demento said: !clone is an application? | 15:27 |
| Myrtti | merh | 15:41 |
| * Tm_T pokes Myrtti | 15:42 | |
| jussi01 | Myrtti: is that a krapula merh? :P | 15:42 |
| Myrtti | no, I'm just trying to make myself depressed before I get the news tomorrow that I didn't get the lovely and most wonderful apartment I went to see just now | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | I know I'm not going to get it | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | it would be too perfect | 15:43 |
| jussi01 | Myrtti: description? | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | 33m^2, next to 3K-supermarket, church, library, jogging track and bus stops. Bathroom renovated, view to pine trees, squirrels. | 15:44 |
| Myrtti | 380 incl. water | 15:45 |
| jussi01 | NICE! | 15:45 |
| jussi01 | in which city? | 15:45 |
| Myrtti | Tampered | 15:45 |
| Myrtti | -d | 15:45 |
| jussi01 | nice. I will be down that way at christmas. | 15:46 |
| jussi01 | (the inlaws live in Orivesi) | 15:46 |
| Myrtti | :-) | 15:46 |
| Myrtti | not in Nokia :-P | 15:46 |
| jussi01 | :P | 15:46 |
| jussi01 | thankfully | 15:46 |
| Myrtti | oh, it would be SO loverly if I got that place | 15:47 |
| Myrtti | it's on the other side of the city from Hervanta, but actually a bus goes straight to the front door of my previous workplace in Hermia | 15:48 |
| * jussi01 wishes Myrtti good luck | 15:50 | |
| PriceChild | What's she doing? | 15:53 |
| PriceChild | gonna try and hop on one leg for the rest of the day? | 15:53 |
| Myrtti | who, me? | 15:55 |
| Myrtti | no | 15:55 |
| Myrtti | I went to see an apartment | 15:55 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: Will you do that | 15:55 |
| Seeker` | gah, its too cold in here | 15:56 |
| Seeker` | my hands are seizing up - I cant type properlyu | 15:56 |
| Myrtti | get to know if I get it tomorrow | 15:56 |
| PriceChild | Myrtti, that's boring :/ | 15:56 |
| PriceChild | I think you should go see an apartment while hopping. | 15:56 |
| PriceChild | And then I would wish you good luck too. | 15:56 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 15:56 |
| PriceChild | I just don't feel motivated enough if its just any old apartment :/ Sorry. | 15:57 |
| pleia2 | good luck Myrtti :) | 15:58 |
| Myrtti | PriceChild: it was the most perfectly situated, cheap and lovely apartment | 15:58 |
| PriceChild | Gonna get it? | 15:59 |
| Myrtti | even the bathroom had a big window to the pine tree view :-P | 15:59 |
| PriceChild | haha well that clinches it then | 15:59 |
| Myrtti | it's not my decision anymore. I wan't it, but it's the landlords choice | 16:02 |
| Myrtti | I'm not the only one | 16:02 |
| jussi01 | Myrtti: LOL, I love your knitted covers... | 16:03 |
| Seeker` | Myrtti: how many other people wnat it? | 16:04 |
| Myrtti | four or five | 16:05 |
| Myrtti | jussi01: oh yes, I was in the middle of blogging about rsync, tar and split | 16:06 |
| Myrtti | omg, there's the swimming pools right like, next door :-o | 16:17 |
| Myrtti | Me Wanna! | 16:17 |
| Myrtti | ;___; | 16:17 |
| Seeker` | Myrtti: why *wouldn't* you get it? | 16:18 |
| Myrtti | miss-spent youth | 16:19 |
| Seeker` | :( | 16:20 |
| ikonia | evening guys :D | 16:21 |
| Seeker` | heya ikonia | 16:23 |
| Seeker` | hows things on your side of Bath? | 16:23 |
| ikonia | cold | 16:28 |
| ikonia | just lit a fire and put family guy on | 16:28 |
| ikonia | clearing my hang over :) | 16:29 |
| ikonia | how about you | 16:29 |
| Seeker` | am also cold - Have turned the heating on. Hopefully it will warm up enough for my finger coordination to get back to what it should be | 16:31 |
| Seeker` | typing a literature review with cold hands isn't fun :{ | 16:32 |
| ikonia | agreed | 16:32 |
| Seeker` | woo for coursewrok deadlines | 16:32 |
| ikonia | ahh to be a student again | 16:33 |
| Jack_Sparrow | morning ikonia | 16:33 |
| ikonia | afternoon here | 16:33 |
| ikonia | but morning to you | 16:33 |
| Jack_Sparrow | time as always..is relative | 16:33 |
| ikonia | unless your a time lord or in the matrix | 16:34 |
| ikonia | I am neither | 16:34 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I love Dr Who | 16:34 |
| Jack_Sparrow | fun show | 16:34 |
| ikonia | certainly is | 16:34 |
| Seeker` | ikonia: I also have some nasty maths to do | 16:35 |
| Seeker` | but I have finished 75% of that, and i;m not sure whether the effort required for the last 25% of the work is worth it | 16:36 |
| ikonia | its always worth it | 16:36 |
| ikonia | think "first" | 16:36 |
| Jack_Sparrow | ikonia: I was able to rewrite my stupid vb6 program to run under wine or windows | 16:36 |
| ikonia | Jack_Sparrow: kudos | 16:36 |
| Seeker` | ikonia: The maths coursework is worth 25% of unit which is worth 20% of a year which is worth 70% of my degree | 16:37 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Now my dual booters can backup change edit or get man pages for Ubuntu System files.. | 16:37 |
| ikonia | interesting approach | 16:37 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Like I said..stupid | 16:37 |
| Jack_Sparrow | but so are some of my users... 70 - 85 yrs old | 16:38 |
| Seeker` | and I have completed some of the question, so I should get some marks for it | 16:38 |
| ikonia | nice to make something fit for purpose | 16:38 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I found it much easier to teach them how to get around in UB than to keep windows working and bug free | 16:40 |
| ikonia | my parents use linux for a desktop for their needs and I'm surprised how easy they have adapted to it | 16:40 |
| Jack_Sparrow | ikonia: I still give my wifes parents windows, just disable the network card in thehardware setup | 16:42 |
| jpatrick | I've installed Kubuntu on my family's computers | 16:42 |
| PriceChild | inpho, K`Tetch mhatcher, Can we help you? | 16:53 |
| Tm_T | SWAT: hi how can we help you? | 17:06 |
| SWAT | Tm_T, hi. It's unusual to be greated like this. ATM you can't help me. I'm an op for the dutch channel, hence I joined | 17:07 |
| Tm_T | SWAT: shame :( | 17:07 |
| SWAT | really, it's a sunday evening (over here at least), take the time to relax and enjoy yourself. | 17:08 |
| Tm_T | SWAT: ah, you apparently have missed our inside joke :)) | 17:09 |
| SWAT | the sarcastic undertone? | 17:09 |
| Tm_T | mmm, no | 17:09 |
| SWAT | I have just returned from a stressfull weekend, so please excuse when I'm not at the top of my game | 17:10 |
| Tm_T | just tried to make you bit confused :) | 17:10 |
| SWAT | keep on trying ;) | 17:11 |
| Tm_T | meh | 17:11 |
| Tm_T | SWAT: I could hug you if I were that kind of person | 17:12 |
| ubotu | macaholic called the ops in #ubuntu (wols) | 17:48 |
| macaholic | Wols was talking dirt. | 17:49 |
| ompaul | macaholic, rubbish in some ways | 17:49 |
| LjL | macaholic, perhaps wols is a little... so... but, i don't see how calling !ops was warranted | 17:49 |
| ompaul | macaholic, don't call ops | 17:49 |
| ompaul | unless the channel is under attack and remember | 17:50 |
| LjL | he said "go away", that's not entirely polite i agree, but | 17:50 |
| ompaul | !patience | 17:50 |
| ubotu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 17:50 |
| macaholic | I cannot use apt-get, this is my second reinstall., | 17:50 |
| macaholic | This is a productivity machine. | 17:50 |
| ompaul | this is not a help channel | 17:51 |
| ompaul | you were removed from the help channel - for abusing the !ops and someone telling you to go away is not an emergency in my books | 17:52 |
| LjL | macaholic, i'd have refused to help you with your problem too until i'd see the full apt-get output. it might seem irrelevant to you, but perhaps a single output line, without the context of which packages were being installed etc, can be quite meaningless unless perhaps you're some APT guru of kinds | 17:53 |
| macaholic | He didn't want to help me just because I didn't paste the lines that said what packages I wanted to install and which ones installed successfully. | 17:53 |
| ompaul | !paste | 17:53 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 17:53 |
| ompaul | macaholic, ^^ fill that out with the required details | 17:53 |
| ompaul | macaholic, so it seems you know how you did not help the person who is willing to help if you tell them what they want to know | 17:54 |
| ompaul | macaholic, how does that look if you stand on the other side of the fence? | 17:54 |
| macaholic | (list of packages wanting to be installed) | 17:55 |
| macaholic | Do you want to continue? Yes | 17:55 |
| macaholic | (Get lines) | 17:55 |
| macaholic | Fetched 37MB in 3m23s (183kB/s) | 17:55 |
| macaholic | E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam-runtime | 17:55 |
| macaholic | Is the output. | 17:55 |
| macaholic | I don't need to tell him what I am or am not installing. | 17:55 |
| ompaul | that is your call - not his I take it, and as you don't meet his criteria I think he is within his rights to say no | 17:56 |
| LjL | says who? | 17:56 |
| LjL | if i google that error, for instance, i see (in debian) | 17:56 |
| LjL | "This is generally a badly constructed CD set with interdependencies between the binary disks in the set. It's not supported. | 17:57 |
| LjL | just an example, but this seems like for instance one *would* like to know the full output, including whatever you were installing | 17:57 |
| Myrtti | and no, this still usn't the help channel | 17:58 |
| LjL | he's probably uninstalled dpkg | 18:00 |
| ompaul | ooch | 18:01 |
| ompaul | how many languages can you say "I hate that" in? | 18:01 |
| LjL | i hate that, ich hasse es, jag hatar det, lo odio, lo odio | 18:02 |
| Myrtti | vihaan sitä | 18:03 |
| ompaul | ;-) | 18:03 |
| LjL | elvish doesn't count | 18:04 |
| ompaul | LjL, the winnnnnaaaaaaaaa | 18:04 |
| no0tic | hi LjL!! howdy? | 18:05 |
| LjL | tired, but ok | 18:05 |
| LjL | you? | 18:05 |
| no0tic | fine, no news at all, btw | 18:06 |
| no0tic | your wrist? | 18:06 |
| LjL | better. haven't used a computer for a couple of days, that seemed to help :) | 18:06 |
| LjL | well, i *have* used my a500+, but just to play pinball fantasies | 18:06 |
| ikonia | LjL: a500 ! do you have moonstone ? | 18:07 |
| LjL | nope, i had (and have) very few games really | 18:07 |
| ikonia | find it ;) | 18:07 |
| ikonia | LjL: are you running workbench 4 ? | 18:08 |
| LjL | well i can't use the amiga anymore now though :) | 18:08 |
| LjL | ikonia, uh? it's a 500+. 1 meg ram. 68000 7 mhz. | 18:08 |
| LjL | besides, i would never even touch os 4 :) | 18:08 |
| LjL | AROS at best | 18:08 |
| no0tic | :) | 18:08 |
| LjL | the 500+ has got wb 2.04, although i have got 2.1 later | 18:09 |
| ikonia | I've got wb4 here, but I've not got around to running it | 18:09 |
| LjL | what hardware? | 18:09 |
| ikonia | a1200 | 18:10 |
| ikonia | but I planned to run it in an emulator rather than setup the kit | 18:10 |
| ikonia | just to see wb4 | 18:11 |
| ikonia | I'm just curious | 18:11 |
| LjL | ah well now there are indeed some PPC emulators good enough to allow trying that | 18:11 |
| LjL | although i'm not sure there's any emulator with specific support for Amiga emulation | 18:11 |
| ikonia | I'm just interested in what the have happened | 18:11 |
| LjL | so one would have to twiddle a bit i suppose | 18:11 |
| ikonia | LjL: there are a few amiga emultors out there | 18:12 |
| LjL | ikonia, there's basically just UAE (and WinFellow for games) | 18:12 |
| LjL | and UAE never emulated a PPC | 18:12 |
| ikonia | I thought there was another too | 18:12 |
| ikonia | ahhh I see | 18:12 |
| LjL | amigaos 4 doesn't run on 68k | 18:12 |
| ikonia | I've not followed it at all, I got given it by a friend who used to be big on the demo sense and just thought I'd try it for interest | 18:13 |
| LjL | you need a PPC emulator... there's QEmu, PearPC (still around?), and perhaps some others | 18:13 |
| ikonia | pear is still around | 18:13 |
| LjL | still i don't think it'd be trivial to trick os 4 into believing it's running on amiga hardware | 18:13 |
| ikonia | no, I guess you may be right | 18:14 |
| ikonia | I'll do a little research before diving in | 18:14 |
| LjL | anyway, as far as i know, there's nothing *particularly* exciting | 18:14 |
| LjL | no memory protection, for starters | 18:14 |
| LjL | and that's currently the one show-stopper as far as amigaos & clones go, IMHO | 18:14 |
| LjL | check out www.aros.org rather | 18:14 |
| ikonia | I shall | 18:14 |
| LjL | that can run hosted in linux (actually, it's the way it's mostly run by its developers), and it crashes very well | 18:17 |
| ikonia | ha ha ha | 18:18 |
| rodserling | Hey, can I get tested for #ubuntu? Thanks | 18:20 |
| ompaul | rodserling, we'll think about it over the next min or so ;-) | 18:21 |
| LjL | rodserling: sorted | 18:24 |
| tomaw | +b *!*@pi3!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic <- hehe | 18:24 |
| LjL | ahum... | 18:25 |
| rodserling | Yeah!!! | 18:25 |
| ompaul | rodserling, sorry I got called to one side as I started to set up | 18:25 |
| ompaul | LjL, good catch | 18:25 |
| LjL | i didn't catch anything, i unbanned pi3 by mistake and then re-banned with the wrong syntax :) | 18:26 |
| ompaul | LjL, rodserling was a catch I thought | 18:26 |
| LjL | i thought rodserling was an irc user | 18:27 |
| rodserling | I almost got away | 18:27 |
| ompaul | hahahaaha | 18:27 |
| LjL | follow-up from #ubuntu-offtopic ban, in PM: | 19:01 |
| LjL | [19:58:13] <kahrytan> I did stop asking didnt I? geeze. | 19:01 |
| LjL | [19:59:55] <kahrytan> Ask her. I didnt even msg her again. And CoC does not have the word 'harrassment' so I am right. | 19:01 |
| LjL | [20:00:45] <LjL> you really asked for it in other ways. make your case in -ops if you want, though i suggest you wait a little while before doing it | 19:01 |
| LjL | ("so i am right", yup) | 19:01 |
| LjL | btw, kahrytan has trolled previously, to my knowledge. | 19:02 |
| ikonia | always handy to know | 19:03 |
| ompaul | LjL, was that today | 19:07 |
| LjL | ten minutes ago | 19:07 |
| ompaul | or last evening | 19:07 |
| ompaul | the ban | 19:07 |
| LjL | yes, ten minutes ago | 19:07 |
| LjL | [20:03:03] <kahrytan> Im just saying CoC doesnt specify it. and it can be updated to meet it. [20:05:01] <kahrytan> So you banned me partyl because I state a flaw in the CoC [20:06:10] <LjL> we all seemed pretty much convinced that the CoC does cover it ("be respectful", for starters). i banned you for arguing that you were "right" rather than just apologizing. but i'm really not supposed to discuss this in PM. come to -ops if you like. [20:07:23] | 19:08 |
| LjL | <kahrytan> lol Be Respectful is reason why I stopped asking. | 19:08 |
| ompaul | just looked - my reaction is: your conversation was not respectful, you can contemplate that for a while - we'll work out the duration later | 19:09 |
| ompaul | later is later | 19:09 |
| ompaul | inviting them here | 19:09 |
| ompaul | kahrytan> No thanks. | 19:10 |
| ompaul | so I guess that answers that | 19:10 |
| LjL | so does the refusal to answer my own invites | 19:11 |
| LjL | [20:09:25] <kahrytan> I dont see need for channel discussion. We're having civil conversation. | 19:11 |
| LjL | typical troll argument | 19:11 |
| LjL | why can't channel discussion be just as civil, one wonders? | 19:11 |
| ompaul | that calls for zero response | 19:12 |
| LjL | indeed | 19:12 |
| LjL | ahaha | 19:12 |
| Daviey | 19:12:28 <+ompaul> Zero # :D | 19:12 |
| LjL | [20:12:34] <kahrytan> If you insist in talking in a channel, then goto #kahrytan. Otherwise, I'm not going to -ops. | 19:12 |
| nalioth | invite them to ##moderation | 19:13 |
| ompaul | LjL, that again calls for no reply | 19:13 |
| LjL | nalioth: why on earth? what's wrong with #ubuntu-ops? | 19:13 |
| ompaul | nalioth, ohh no not that ;-) | 19:13 |
| nalioth | LjL: ##moderation is neutral | 19:13 |
| LjL | nalioth, he refused to *check* if we'd be neutral. | 19:13 |
| nalioth | well, #kahrytan is his channel and -ops is ours. ##moderation is a neutral channel | 19:15 |
| nalioth | which is why it exists | 19:16 |
| LjL | and #ubuntu-ops is the place where one should first come to appeal a ban | 19:16 |
| LjL | anyway, i invited him to ##moderation | 19:16 |
| LjL | [20:17:07] <kahrytan> I got a problem with that too. | 19:17 |
| LjL | i'm not replying anymore. | 19:17 |
| ikonia | most interesting | 19:17 |
| ikonia | query, if someone choses to behave like this, why would one attempt to tempt him to appeal the ban ? | 19:18 |
| nalioth | let them stay banned | 19:18 |
| ikonia | surly if someone want to be unbanned they must meet the ubuntu policy/procedure ? | 19:18 |
| ikonia | ahh ok, I was just querying that | 19:18 |
| PriceChild | Anyone give me a one line explanation of the kahrytan thing? Harrassing riotkittie in pm? | 19:22 |
| LjL | PriceChild: yeah. although i probably wouldn't have banned if i didn't know kahrytan as a troll i guess | 19:23 |
| LjL | but the subsequent refusal to discuss it in other than a private query does quite seem to confirm my troll suspicions | 19:23 |
| PriceChild | Did riotkittie come to us in any way? Or is this just from conversation in -offtopic? | 19:23 |
| LjL | "harassing" basically meant asking about her age, afaicu | 19:24 |
| LjL | PriceChild, just from conversation. | 19:24 |
| PriceChild | ok | 19:24 |
| LjL | [20:25:31] <kahrytan> I got a problem with other ops and log bots | 19:25 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, and in channel | 19:25 |
| PriceChild | ompaul, "in channel" being -offtopic? | 19:26 |
| ompaul | y | 19:26 |
| PriceChild | did you just try to tab-complete "yes"? :P | 19:26 |
| LjL | PriceChild: edited logs for your convenience http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47582/ | 19:26 |
| nalioth | what other ops and log bots are in ##moderation? | 19:26 |
| ompaul | no I am eating | 19:26 |
| nalioth | leave him banned | 19:26 |
| LjL | nalioth: he won't know until he joins, i suppose | 19:26 |
| PriceChild | LjL, yup went through -offtopic thanks. | 19:26 |
| LjL | he just doesn't want to know i also suppose | 19:27 |
| ompaul | I think I removed him last evening for similar but very early on in his thinking so to speak | 19:28 |
| ompaul | na twas not him | 19:32 |
| * ompaul wonders at ompauls memory | 19:33 | |
| PriceChild | ompaul, who is STFU.or.you.will.find.my.foot.in.y0ur-ass.us ? | 19:48 |
| nalioth | PriceChild: where do you see that? | 19:48 |
| ompaul | no idea but that is as good as a bad quit message | 19:48 |
| ompaul | nalioth, #ubuntu | 19:48 |
| ompaul | llnk was the user | 19:49 |
| PriceChild | Ah I see him | 19:49 |
| nalioth | lovely | 19:50 |
| PriceChild | I think elcasey a regular in #ubuntuforums as rm-rf.us | 19:51 |
| jdong | PriceChild: yeah, before that he had some colourful ones too | 19:52 |
| PriceChild | ah yes | 19:52 |
| PriceChild | those were threatenned against me a little iirc | 19:52 |
| jdong | so it might not be intentional | 19:52 |
| PriceChild | pardon? | 19:52 |
| jdong | PriceChild: the way I understood it, it was a randomly assigned bouncer hostname | 19:52 |
| PriceChild | oh no | 19:52 |
| PriceChild | he chose it | 19:52 |
| nalioth | that was definitely NOT randomly assigned | 19:53 |
| * ikonia notes down the best excuse "that was randomly assigned by my isp" | 19:54 | |
| jdong | haha | 19:54 |
| PriceChild | I think I'm going to start referring to Canonical as ¢anonical. | 19:56 |
| Seeker` | ¢aN°N1¢aŁ | 19:57 |
| PriceChild | Not quite what I meant | 19:57 |
| jdong | KNonikal for all you Kubuntu supporters. | 19:59 |
| * PriceChild head desks | 20:00 | |
| ompaul | Seeker`, so nice of you to care | 20:00 |
| ompaul | ¢ænøn→¢æł is not what he meant either | 20:01 |
| Myrtti | i wan't ops at -offtopic | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | now | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | want, even | 20:25 |
| === mc44_ is now known as mc44 | ||
| * rob hazards a guess that Ubotu is just supybot running with some custom plugins that Seveas wrote having taken a look at what was pulled down from bzr | 21:10 | |
| Seveas | yup | 21:11 |
| rob | Seveas, so you just stuck everything into the plug-ins directory for supybot? What did you do with the stuff sitting in the main directory (the web stuff)? | 21:12 |
| Seveas | code for that lives in plugins/ | 21:12 |
| Seveas | data/config is accessible for the one taking over | 21:12 |
| rob | ah okay, so supybot has its own webserver? | 21:12 |
| Seveas | no, it's html and cgi served by apache | 21:12 |
| rob | oh okay. | 21:13 |
| === Oh_man_im_banned is now known as dmcglone | ||
| dmcglone | X you here? | 21:34 |
| stdin | dmcglone: evading bans, then bragging about it is not a good thing to do | 21:34 |
| dmcglone | do I look like I need advise from you stdin? | 21:34 |
| stdin | depends, do you want to get back into #kubuntu ? | 21:35 |
| dmcglone | first I wasn't bragging about it, second I got banned for trying to show somebody something | 21:36 |
| dmcglone | thats why I was laughing about it | 21:36 |
| stdin | I know why you got banned, I set the ban | 21:36 |
| Myrtti | sad | 21:37 |
| stdin | and if you got removed for it the first time, why do it again? | 21:37 |
| dmcglone | you talking about the first time I typed it? | 21:37 |
| dmcglone | it's funny how I got banned for asking a stupid question, but that dude was cussing like a druken sailor and he didn't get banned | 21:38 |
| stdin | yes, you abused the bot and were using bad language so you were removed, then you did it again so were banned | 21:38 |
| stdin | the 2nd time you did it, you said "<dmcglone> I got kicked the other day for this:" | 21:39 |
| stdin | so you have no excuse for it | 21:39 |
| Myrtti | even sadder | 21:39 |
| dmcglone | oh so if I acknowledge why I got kicked, but someone else can cuss all day it's ok? | 21:40 |
| stdin | that person was warned and stopped | 21:40 |
| stdin | you were warned the first time, then persisted | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | someone else's misbehaviour don't make your any more exceptable | 21:41 |
| PriceChild | dmcglone, others' behaviour is NO excuse for your own. | 21:41 |
| dmcglone | Ah I guess. | 21:41 |
| Myrtti | accept.. oh whatever | 21:41 |
| Myrtti | me, bed. todeloo fellas | 21:41 |
| dmcglone | want me to ask for forgivness? | 21:42 |
| stdin | dmcglone: please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 21:42 |
| dmcglone | why did you bring me in here in the first place? | 21:43 |
| dmcglone | because I was laughing about getting banned? | 21:44 |
| stdin | because otherwise you'd have reconnected in a day or two and tried to get back in to #kubuntu | 21:44 |
| stdin | like you did this time | 21:44 |
| dmcglone | Oh so your saying I can't go back in there at all? | 21:45 |
| stdin | not if you don't agree to abide by the guidelines, if you do then I have no problem letting you back in | 21:45 |
| stdin | all I ask is that you read the guidelines and agree to abide by them | 21:46 |
| dmcglone | I have read them, but you took me out of #kubuntu because I was laughing about it. | 21:46 |
| stdin | no, I took you out because the original ban was still in place as well | 21:47 |
| stdin | dmcglone: so you agree to abide by those guidelines? | 21:50 |
| dmcglone | I always did | 21:52 |
| stdin | obviously not, as the guidelines do say not to abuse the bot and not to use bad language | 21:52 |
| stdin | as long as you agree not to do either, I'll unban you | 21:53 |
| dmcglone | Hmmm was I the only one? | 21:53 |
| stdin | only one for what? | 21:53 |
| dmcglone | I asked if I was the only 1 that used bad language in there | 21:54 |
| stdin | no, but you were the only one to have been asked not to prior to that | 21:54 |
| dmcglone | No I wasn't, and what I said was mild to what I seen, yet I'm the one that gets the 3rd degree | 21:54 |
| stdin | as others have said, others behaviour is no excuse | 21:55 |
| dmcglone | I guess your right | 21:55 |
| Seveas | good guess :) | 21:56 |
| stdin | dmcglone: ok, you can rejoin #kubuntu now | 21:57 |
| dmcglone | I'm wondering if I should | 21:57 |
| stdin | your choice | 21:58 |
| dmcglone | I'm afraid you will kick my butt if I do ;-) | 21:59 |
| stdin | as long as you abide by the guidelines, I'll have no reason to :) | 22:00 |
| dmcglone | we both know I could just change my name and IP and be on in no time. LOL | 22:00 |
| dmcglone | LOL | 22:00 |
| Seveas | and you'll be gone again in no time if you misbheave :) | 22:01 |
| dmcglone | I'm just pulling your leg | 22:01 |
| dmcglone | LOL | 22:01 |
| dmcglone | are we good? | 22:01 |
| Seveas | I'm good, don't know about you :) | 22:01 |
| dmcglone | I'm too old for this sh.... ah cought myself | 22:01 |
| dmcglone | anyway, it's cool. I'm cool | 22:02 |
| * LjL puts on his glasses | 22:02 | |
| LjL | oh i was right! it's a troll! | 22:02 |
| ikonia | LjL: your spotting tallent is strong tonight | 22:02 |
| dmcglone | LjL nah i'm not a troll, i'm just sitting here getting the 3rd and acting stupid | 22:02 |
| LjL | which is certainly what this channel is for, yes? | 22:03 |
| LjL | also, it's kind of a new level of trollage... to keep trolling and threatening ban evasion *after* the ban is lifted | 22:03 |
| LjL | when i was young, trolls actually pretended to be happy with their ban being lifted | 22:03 |
| ikonia | the bar has been raised | 22:03 |
| LjL | then acted ok for a couple of days | 22:03 |
| LjL | and then started trolling again | 22:04 |
| LjL | but now just after being banned | 22:04 |
| LjL | nto | 22:04 |
| LjL | n. o. t. | 22:04 |
| dmcglone | I got banned for showing something that I was banned for. LOL | 22:04 |
| LjL | wee recursive ban | 22:04 |
| ikonia | why is that funny | 22:04 |
| LjL | hope that's not too much of a strain on the servers | 22:04 |
| dmcglone | it was stupid on my part, but hey some people have to lead by example | 22:04 |
| dmcglone | ikonia, I think it's funny because I'm way too old to care. | 22:05 |
| dmcglone | and I think it was funny also because it was stupid on my part | 22:05 |
| LjL | yeah, at 15 you begin trolling out of habit rather than actually being thrilled at it as you are at 14 | 22:06 |
| dmcglone | for doing it 2 times! | 22:06 |
| LjL | but, do you have any further issues to bring to us? | 22:06 |
| dmcglone | am I supposed to leave? | 22:06 |
| Seveas | yes, this is not an idling channel | 22:06 |
| LjL | well, yes | 22:07 |
| dmcglone | but I was brought here? | 22:07 |
| dmcglone | LOL | 22:07 |
| dmcglone | OK | 22:07 |
| dmcglone | i'm kidding | 22:07 |
| dmcglone | I'll leave, unless you would like to kick me? | 22:07 |
| dmcglone | LOL bye | 22:07 |
| LjL | gah, he was too fast | 22:07 |
| stdin | you can catch him in #k ;) | 22:08 |
| LjL | yeah i know, i just got a new highlight | 22:08 |
| LjL | (yay, now more than 50% of messages trigger me a highlight) | 22:08 |
| nalioth | LjL: i suspect you need to reorder your highlights :( | 22:14 |
| LjL | reorder as in priorities, or reorder as in remove some, or both? | 22:14 |
| LjL | something that makes me suspicious is that i often get highlighted and have no idea why | 22:15 |
| LjL | and browsing through the list is a bit too cumbersome, what with there being no search function | 22:15 |
| nalioth | i suspect if you reprioritize, you'll remove some of the highlights | 22:15 |
| LjL | i suspect you're right | 22:16 |
| ubotu | posingaspopular called the ops in #ubuntu-us () | 23:25 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, bluefoxx said: !nethack-gnome is nethack | 23:27 |
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