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jussi01PriceChild: got a min?00:02
PriceChildjussi01, yeah sure00:17
tonyyarussoPriceChild: what do you mean a script to log hilights?  What crazy client do you use where that's not default?00:18
crdlbPriceChild: btw that's a script for irssi to give you a proper channel list00:18
tonyyarussocrdlb: hrm?00:19
PriceChildtonyyarusso, xchat... I just want to be able to have a little window that gives me all my hilights and channels since i've been away.00:19
PriceChildcrdlb, pfft its gotta be crackful00:19
tonyyarussoPriceChild: irssi gives you a list in the server window automatically when you /away to come back00:19
PriceChildtonyyarusso, I know :)00:19
tonyyarussoPriceChild: I'm a wee bit surprised at XChat...00:20
crdlbPriceChild: nah not really :)00:23
* Seeker` has a seperate "hilight" window in irssi00:24
* Seeker` hasn't had any hilights yet today :(00:24
jussi01Seeker`:  :P00:25
Seeker`woo :P00:25
PriceChildcrdlb, linky?00:25
* jussi01 -> bed00:25
Seeker`night00:26
=== crdlb_ is now known as crdlb
crdlbPriceChild: http://archive.f0rked.com/screenshots/irssi20051016.png00:30
PriceChildcool, link to that script?00:32
crdlbhttp://f0rked.com/articles/irssi00:32
crdlbsearch it for "awl"00:32
jdongPriceChild: you mean marmalade?00:33
naliothcrdlb: what does that do?00:33
crdlbadds a window list to show activity instead of the [Act: 2,4,5,9,12,13,42] thing00:33
naliothah00:35
* nalioth has his numbers memorized00:35
* tonyyarusso too, or at least the vast majority of them00:35
* Pici three00:35
crdlbI used to know them before I started using that script :)00:35
=== Pumpernickle is now known as Pumpernickel
naliothdoes it change the window order?00:36
Seeker`PriceChild: Also, search for "Hilight Window" on the same page - it gives you a small window at the top of the screen showing only the hilights00:37
PriceChildSeeker`, I know how to do that bit thanks :)00:37
Seeker`nalioth: No, but it gives them names, so you have less need to remember them00:37
Seeker`PriceChild: oh, sorry00:37
naliothSeeker`: crdlb: what does it do if you have 83 windows open?00:37
crdlbtakes up half the screen :p00:38
naliothright.00:38
* nalioth will stick with his numbers00:38
Seeker`nalioth: I'm not silly enough to be in that many channels :D00:38
naliothwell, i go where i'm needed00:39
Seeker`I dont know how someone could keep track of 83 windows00:39
* jdong wishes irssi would use a hex numbering system to save space :D00:40
Seeker`heh00:40
Seeker`my windows go from 1-9, then 0, then q-o, then it starts at 2000:40
Seeker`I haven't worked out how to select window 20 yet00:41
tonyyarussojdong: rofl - it would only save space if you had >10000:41
tonyyarussoor <1600:41
jdongtonyyarusso: meh I'm no number theory freak but I think even as long as int(n/10) > int(n/16) you win00:42
nalioth0_000:42
* nalioth just loaded awl00:42
jdongnalioth: screen shot!00:42
* nalioth just unloaded awl00:42
crdlbhah00:42
naliothnot for me, but thanks for the info00:43
PriceChildhaha :)00:43
Seeker`how do I select window 20?00:44
PriceChild/win 2000:44
crdlb /win 20? :)00:44
naliothSeeker`: depends on how you set your client up00:44
crdlbI use alt+a for getting to those windows a lot00:44
* nalioth can't answer any of those questions, cuz his irssi is not really standard any more . . . .00:44
* Seeker` uses esc+# to get to windows atm00:45
tonyyarussojdong: wouldn't that work out to the same as what I said for all hyperion-allowable values of n?00:46
jdongtonyyarusso: AAAAHH MY HEAD *SMACK*00:46
* tonyyarusso ponders00:48
tonyyarussojdong: Nah, your equation is buggy00:54
jdongtonyyarusso: wouldn't be surprised00:54
no0tictonyyarusso, valenzetti equation?00:54
tonyyarussojdong: if n=30, int(n/10)=3, int(n/16)=1, 3>1, but the hexadecimal representation (1e) takes the same number of digits to display (2).00:56
jdongtonyyarusso: ok then I think we need to use log16 vs log10 of n00:57
tonyyarussojdong: yeah, in some fashion or another I'm sure it needs a log00:57
no0ticprobably with lastlog you can manage to do something01:01
tonyyarussojdong: You gain if int(log(n)/log(10)) < int(log(n)/log(16)) (domain of function is n>0)01:11
tonyyarussoie, decimal values 10-15, 100-256, 1000-4096, 10000-65536.01:12
jdongtonyyarusso: sounds reasonable.01:15
jdongtonyyarusso: now the question is, what ranges do you lose?01:15
tonyyarussojdong: none.  You can only be equal or better.01:16
tonyyarussoSo in that sense, sure, I guess it helps.01:16
jdong:)01:18
tonyyarussoWhy are we having this discussion again?  :P01:19
jdonglol01:21
PriceChildbecause you are nerds01:22
jdongtonyyarusso: to pave the way for base64 irssi window numbering :)01:22
jdongPriceChild: and you aren't.01:22
tonyyarussohaha01:22
PriceChildjdong, no, i'm a geek01:22
PriceChildthere is an incredible difference01:22
* Seeker` is a geek, and proud of it01:22
jdongPriceChild: incredulous difference to me.01:22
PriceChildjdong, pish posh01:22
jdongPriceChild: hah another britishism :)01:22
jdongkeep em coming01:22
PriceChildtwss01:23
PriceChildI thought you'd like it.01:23
jdongPriceChild: I do :)01:23
Seeker`whats so good about britishisms?01:26
PriceChildthey're..... british!01:27
Seeker`jolly good01:27
jdongsmashing good laugh I dare say01:29
Seeker`tally-ho01:29
naliothjimmacdonald: can we help you ?01:34
naliothinpho: can we help you?01:35
naliothK`Tetch: can we help you?01:35
PriceChildmhatcher, can we help you?01:37
* MenZa hides behind tonyyarusso01:37
* tonyyarusso gives MenZa a cookie01:40
MenZa:D01:40
=== rob1 is now known as rob
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:08
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:08
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:08
ctothejsomeone test me please02:14
ctothejand let me know if i can join the chan again02:14
naliothdid you follow the instructions, ctothej ?02:14
ctothejyep, port 8001 for pidgin02:15
naliothok02:15
ctothejanything beyond that?02:15
naliothctothej: you're good to go, thanks for putting up with us  :)02:16
ctothejsure... thanks02:16
ubotuardchoille called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic (Kr4t05 Wants some attention i here and #kubuntu)03:03
naliothtaken care of03:04
Hobbseethanks nalioth03:13
ubotuGionnyBoss called the ops in #ubuntu (Anastasia_- sends ads on join)04:26
tonyyarussoconfirmed, removed04:26
naliothtonyyarusso: poke us, please04:29
tonyyarussonalioth: ah, right.  sorry.04:29
tonyyarussonalioth: it looks like a virus/trojan masquerading as porn.04:30
naliothi'm not worried about the content, i just want to remove the irritant from the network04:30
naliothtonyyarusso: your ban is now removable04:30
tonyyarussookay, ty04:30
ubotuIn #ubuntu-bugs, persia said: ubotu: bugsquad is <reply> The Ubuntu BugSquad is the first point of contact for bugs filed about Ubuntu.  For more information, please see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad.  Documentation about processes is available from  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs.  Also see the /topic of #ubuntu-bugs.07:04
jussi01good morning all10:08
jussi01!feisty-#kubuntu15:12
ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php15:12
Tm_Tmeh15:12
jussi01A little out of date...15:12
jussi01Tm_T: go back to your hole... :P15:12
ubotuMenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Premium5pam)15:16
Tm_Tmmmmmh15:17
Tm_Tthe lonely channel without my powers, oh well :--P15:17
jussi01Tm_T: that guy in #kubuntu loves you... :P15:25
Tm_Tjussi01: he does15:25
jussi01hehe... why is it that people get so grumpy?15:26
Tm_Twho knows15:26
Tm_Tjussi01: awww, he quit from irc because of me :(15:27
ubotuIn #ubuntu, demento said: !clone is an application?15:27
Myrttimerh15:41
* Tm_T pokes Myrtti15:42
jussi01Myrtti: is that a krapula merh? :P15:42
Myrttino, I'm just trying to make myself depressed before I get the news tomorrow that I didn't get the lovely and most wonderful apartment I went to see just now15:43
MyrttiI know I'm not going to get it15:43
Myrttiit would be too perfect15:43
jussi01Myrtti: description?15:43
Myrtti33m^2, next to 3K-supermarket, church, library, jogging track and bus stops. Bathroom renovated, view to pine trees, squirrels.15:44
Myrtti380 incl. water15:45
jussi01NICE!15:45
jussi01in which city?15:45
MyrttiTampered15:45
Myrtti-d15:45
jussi01nice. I will be down that way at christmas.15:46
jussi01(the inlaws live in Orivesi)15:46
Myrtti:-)15:46
Myrttinot in Nokia :-P15:46
jussi01:P15:46
jussi01thankfully15:46
Myrttioh, it would be SO loverly if I got that place15:47
Myrttiit's on the other side of the city from Hervanta, but actually a bus goes straight to the front door of my previous workplace in Hermia15:48
* jussi01 wishes Myrtti good luck15:50
PriceChildWhat's she doing?15:53
PriceChildgonna try and hop on one leg for the rest of the day?15:53
Myrttiwho, me?15:55
Myrttino15:55
MyrttiI went to see an apartment15:55
Seeker`PriceChild: Will you do that15:55
Seeker`gah, its too cold in here15:56
Seeker`my hands are seizing up - I cant type properlyu15:56
Myrttiget to know if I get it tomorrow15:56
PriceChildMyrtti, that's boring :/15:56
PriceChildI think you should go see an apartment while hopping.15:56
PriceChildAnd then I would wish you good luck too.15:56
pleia2hehe15:56
PriceChildI just don't feel motivated enough if its just any old apartment :/ Sorry.15:57
pleia2good luck Myrtti :)15:58
MyrttiPriceChild: it was the most perfectly situated, cheap and lovely apartment15:58
PriceChildGonna get it?15:59
Myrttieven the bathroom had a big window to the pine tree view :-P15:59
PriceChildhaha well that clinches it then15:59
Myrttiit's not my decision anymore. I wan't it, but it's the landlords choice16:02
MyrttiI'm not the only one16:02
jussi01Myrtti: LOL, I love your knitted covers...16:03
Seeker`Myrtti: how many other people wnat it?16:04
Myrttifour or five16:05
Myrttijussi01: oh yes, I was in the middle of blogging about rsync, tar and split16:06
Myrttiomg, there's the swimming pools right like, next door :-o16:17
MyrttiMe Wanna!16:17
Myrtti;___;16:17
Seeker`Myrtti: why *wouldn't* you get it?16:18
Myrttimiss-spent youth16:19
Seeker`:(16:20
ikoniaevening guys :D16:21
Seeker`heya ikonia16:23
Seeker`hows things on your side of Bath?16:23
ikoniacold16:28
ikoniajust lit a fire and put family guy on16:28
ikoniaclearing my hang over :)16:29
ikoniahow about you16:29
Seeker`am also cold - Have turned the heating on. Hopefully it will warm up enough for my finger coordination to get back to what it should be16:31
Seeker`typing a literature review with cold hands isn't fun :{16:32
ikoniaagreed16:32
Seeker`woo for coursewrok deadlines16:32
ikoniaahh to be a student again16:33
Jack_Sparrowmorning ikonia16:33
ikoniaafternoon here16:33
ikoniabut morning to you16:33
Jack_Sparrowtime as always..is relative16:33
ikoniaunless your a time lord or in the matrix16:34
ikoniaI am neither16:34
Jack_SparrowI love Dr Who16:34
Jack_Sparrowfun show16:34
ikoniacertainly is16:34
Seeker`ikonia: I also have some nasty maths to do16:35
Seeker`but I have finished 75% of that, and i;m not sure whether the effort required for the last 25% of the work is worth it16:36
ikoniaits always worth it16:36
ikoniathink "first"16:36
Jack_Sparrowikonia: I was able to rewrite my stupid vb6 program to run under wine or windows16:36
ikoniaJack_Sparrow: kudos16:36
Seeker`ikonia: The maths coursework is worth 25% of unit which is worth 20% of a year which is worth 70% of my degree16:37
Jack_SparrowNow my dual booters can backup change edit or get man pages for Ubuntu System files..16:37
ikoniainteresting approach16:37
Jack_SparrowLike I said..stupid16:37
Jack_Sparrowbut so are some of my users... 70 - 85 yrs old16:38
Seeker`and I have completed some of the question, so I should get some marks for it16:38
ikonianice to make something fit for purpose16:38
Jack_SparrowI found it much easier to teach them how to get around in UB than to keep windows working and bug free16:40
ikoniamy parents use linux for a desktop for their needs and I'm surprised how easy they have adapted to it16:40
Jack_Sparrowikonia: I still give my wifes parents windows, just disable the network card in thehardware setup16:42
jpatrickI've installed Kubuntu on my family's computers16:42
PriceChildinpho, K`Tetch mhatcher, Can we help you?16:53
Tm_TSWAT: hi how can we help you?17:06
SWATTm_T, hi. It's unusual to be greated like this. ATM you can't help me. I'm an op for the dutch channel, hence I joined17:07
Tm_TSWAT: shame :(17:07
SWATreally, it's a sunday evening (over here at least), take the time to relax and enjoy yourself.17:08
Tm_TSWAT: ah, you apparently have missed our inside joke :))17:09
SWATthe sarcastic undertone?17:09
Tm_Tmmm, no17:09
SWATI have just returned from a stressfull weekend, so please excuse when I'm not at the top of my game17:10
Tm_Tjust tried to make you bit confused :)17:10
SWATkeep on trying ;)17:11
Tm_Tmeh17:11
Tm_TSWAT: I could hug you if I were that kind of person17:12
ubotumacaholic called the ops in #ubuntu (wols)17:48
macaholicWols was talking dirt.17:49
ompaulmacaholic, rubbish in some ways17:49
LjLmacaholic, perhaps wols is a little... so... but, i don't see how calling !ops was warranted17:49
ompaulmacaholic, don't call ops17:49
ompaulunless the channel is under attack and remember17:50
LjLhe said "go away", that's not entirely polite i agree, but17:50
ompaul!patience17:50
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines17:50
macaholicI cannot use apt-get, this is my second reinstall.,17:50
macaholicThis is a productivity machine.17:50
ompaulthis is not a help channel17:51
ompaulyou were removed from the help channel - for abusing the !ops and someone telling you to go away is not an emergency in my books17:52
LjLmacaholic, i'd have refused to help you with your problem too until i'd see the full apt-get output. it might seem irrelevant to you, but perhaps a single output line, without the context of which packages were being installed etc, can be quite meaningless unless perhaps you're some APT guru of kinds17:53
macaholicHe didn't want to help me just because I didn't paste the lines that said what packages I wanted to install and which ones installed successfully.17:53
ompaul!paste17:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)17:53
ompaulmacaholic, ^^ fill that out with the required details17:53
ompaulmacaholic, so it seems you know how you did not help the person who is willing to help if you tell them what they want to know17:54
ompaulmacaholic, how does that look if you stand on the other side of the fence?17:54
macaholic(list of packages wanting to be installed)17:55
macaholicDo you want to continue?  Yes17:55
macaholic(Get lines)17:55
macaholicFetched 37MB in 3m23s (183kB/s)17:55
macaholicE: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam-runtime17:55
macaholicIs the output.17:55
macaholicI don't need to tell him what I am or am not installing.17:55
ompaulthat is your call - not his I take it, and as you don't meet his criteria I think he is within his rights to say no17:56
LjLsays who?17:56
LjLif i google that error, for instance, i see (in debian)17:56
LjL"This is generally a badly constructed CD set with interdependencies between the binary disks in the set. It's not supported.17:57
LjLjust an example, but this seems like for instance one *would* like to know the full output, including whatever you were installing17:57
Myrttiand no, this still usn't the help channel17:58
LjLhe's probably uninstalled dpkg18:00
ompaulooch18:01
ompaulhow many languages can you say "I hate that" in?18:01
LjLi hate that, ich hasse es, jag hatar det, lo odio, lo odio18:02
Myrttivihaan sitä18:03
ompaul;-)18:03
LjLelvish doesn't count18:04
ompaulLjL, the winnnnnaaaaaaaaa18:04
no0tichi LjL!! howdy?18:05
LjLtired, but ok18:05
LjLyou?18:05
no0ticfine, no news at all, btw18:06
no0ticyour wrist?18:06
LjLbetter. haven't used a computer for a couple of days, that seemed to help :)18:06
LjLwell, i *have* used my a500+, but just to play pinball fantasies18:06
ikoniaLjL: a500 ! do you have moonstone ?18:07
LjLnope, i had (and have) very few games really18:07
ikoniafind it ;)18:07
ikoniaLjL: are you running workbench 4 ?18:08
LjLwell i can't use the amiga anymore now though :)18:08
LjLikonia, uh? it's a 500+. 1 meg ram. 68000 7 mhz.18:08
LjLbesides, i would never even touch os 4 :)18:08
LjLAROS at best18:08
no0tic:)18:08
LjLthe 500+ has got wb 2.04, although i have got 2.1 later18:09
ikoniaI've got wb4 here, but I've not got around to running it18:09
LjLwhat hardware?18:09
ikoniaa120018:10
ikoniabut I planned to run it in an emulator rather than setup the kit18:10
ikoniajust to see wb418:11
ikoniaI'm just curious18:11
LjLah well now there are indeed some PPC emulators good enough to allow trying that18:11
LjLalthough i'm not sure there's any emulator with specific support for Amiga emulation18:11
ikoniaI'm just interested in what the have happened18:11
LjLso one would have to twiddle a bit i suppose18:11
ikoniaLjL: there are a few amiga emultors out there18:12
LjLikonia, there's basically just UAE (and WinFellow for games)18:12
LjLand UAE never emulated a PPC18:12
ikoniaI thought there was another too18:12
ikoniaahhh I see18:12
LjLamigaos 4 doesn't run on 68k18:12
ikoniaI've not followed it at all, I got given it by a friend who used to be big on the demo sense and just thought I'd try it for interest18:13
LjLyou need a PPC emulator... there's QEmu, PearPC (still around?), and perhaps some others18:13
ikoniapear is still around18:13
LjLstill i don't think it'd be trivial to trick os 4 into believing it's running on amiga hardware18:13
ikoniano, I guess you may be right18:14
ikoniaI'll do a little research before diving in18:14
LjLanyway, as far as i know, there's nothing *particularly* exciting18:14
LjLno memory protection, for starters18:14
LjLand that's currently the one show-stopper as far as amigaos & clones go, IMHO18:14
LjLcheck out www.aros.org rather18:14
ikoniaI shall18:14
LjLthat can run hosted in linux (actually, it's the way it's mostly run by its developers), and it crashes very well18:17
ikoniaha ha ha18:18
rodserlingHey, can I get tested for #ubuntu? Thanks18:20
ompaulrodserling, we'll think about it over the next min or so ;-)18:21
LjLrodserling: sorted18:24
tomaw+b *!*@pi3!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic <- hehe18:24
LjLahum...18:25
rodserlingYeah!!!18:25
ompaulrodserling, sorry I got called to one side as I started to set up18:25
ompaulLjL, good catch18:25
LjLi didn't catch anything, i unbanned pi3 by mistake and then re-banned with the wrong syntax :)18:26
ompaulLjL, rodserling was a catch I thought18:26
LjLi thought rodserling was an irc user18:27
rodserlingI almost got away18:27
ompaulhahahaaha18:27
LjLfollow-up from #ubuntu-offtopic ban, in PM:19:01
LjL[19:58:13] <kahrytan> I did stop asking didnt I? geeze.19:01
LjL[19:59:55] <kahrytan> Ask her.  I didnt even msg her again. And CoC does not have the word 'harrassment' so I am right.19:01
LjL[20:00:45] <LjL> you really asked for it in other ways. make your case in -ops if you want, though i suggest you wait a little while before doing it19:01
LjL("so i am right", yup)19:01
LjLbtw, kahrytan has trolled previously, to my knowledge.19:02
ikoniaalways handy to know19:03
ompaulLjL, was that today19:07
LjLten minutes ago19:07
ompaulor last evening19:07
ompaulthe ban19:07
LjLyes, ten minutes ago19:07
LjL[20:03:03] <kahrytan> Im just saying CoC doesnt specify it. and it can be updated to meet it. [20:05:01] <kahrytan> So you banned me partyl because I state a flaw in the CoC [20:06:10] <LjL> we all seemed pretty much convinced that the CoC does cover it ("be respectful", for starters). i banned you for arguing that you were "right" rather than just apologizing. but i'm really not supposed to discuss this in PM. come to -ops if you like. [20:07:23]19:08
LjL<kahrytan> lol Be Respectful is reason why I stopped asking.19:08
ompauljust looked - my reaction is: your conversation was not respectful, you can contemplate that for a while - we'll work out the duration later19:09
ompaullater is later19:09
ompaulinviting them here19:09
ompaulkahrytan> No thanks.19:10
ompaulso I guess that answers that19:10
LjLso does the refusal to answer my own invites19:11
LjL[20:09:25] <kahrytan> I dont see need for channel discussion. We're having civil conversation.19:11
LjLtypical troll argument19:11
LjLwhy can't channel discussion be just as civil, one wonders?19:11
ompaulthat calls for zero response19:12
LjLindeed19:12
LjLahaha19:12
Daviey19:12:28 <+ompaul>  Zero # :D19:12
LjL[20:12:34] <kahrytan> If you insist in talking in a channel, then goto #kahrytan. Otherwise, I'm not going to -ops.19:12
naliothinvite them to ##moderation19:13
ompaulLjL, that again calls for no reply19:13
LjLnalioth: why on earth? what's wrong with #ubuntu-ops?19:13
ompaulnalioth, ohh no not that ;-)19:13
naliothLjL: ##moderation is neutral19:13
LjLnalioth, he refused to *check* if we'd be neutral.19:13
naliothwell, #kahrytan is his channel and -ops is ours.  ##moderation is a neutral channel19:15
naliothwhich is why it exists19:16
LjLand #ubuntu-ops is the place where one should first come to appeal a ban19:16
LjLanyway, i invited him to ##moderation19:16
LjL[20:17:07] <kahrytan> I got a problem with that too.19:17
LjLi'm not replying anymore.19:17
ikoniamost interesting19:17
ikoniaquery, if someone choses to behave like this, why would one attempt to tempt him to appeal the ban ?19:18
naliothlet them stay banned19:18
ikoniasurly if someone want to be unbanned they must meet the ubuntu policy/procedure ?19:18
ikoniaahh ok, I was just querying that19:18
PriceChildAnyone give me a one line explanation of the kahrytan thing? Harrassing riotkittie in pm?19:22
LjLPriceChild: yeah. although i probably wouldn't have banned if i didn't know kahrytan as a troll i guess19:23
LjLbut the subsequent refusal to discuss it in other than a private query does quite seem to confirm my troll suspicions19:23
PriceChildDid riotkittie come to us in any way? Or is this just from conversation in -offtopic?19:23
LjL"harassing" basically meant asking about her age, afaicu19:24
LjLPriceChild, just from conversation.19:24
PriceChildok19:24
LjL[20:25:31] <kahrytan> I got a problem with other ops and log bots19:25
ompaulPriceChild, and in channel19:25
PriceChildompaul, "in channel" being -offtopic?19:26
ompauly19:26
PriceChilddid you just try to tab-complete "yes"? :P19:26
LjLPriceChild: edited logs for your convenience http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47582/19:26
naliothwhat other ops and log bots are in ##moderation?19:26
ompaulno I am eating19:26
naliothleave him banned19:26
LjLnalioth: he won't know until he joins, i suppose19:26
PriceChildLjL, yup went through -offtopic thanks.19:26
LjLhe just doesn't want to know i also suppose19:27
ompaulI think I removed him last evening for similar but very early on in his thinking so to speak19:28
ompaulna twas not him19:32
* ompaul wonders at ompauls memory19:33
PriceChildompaul, who is STFU.or.you.will.find.my.foot.in.y0ur-ass.us ?19:48
naliothPriceChild: where do you see that?19:48
ompaulno idea but that is as good as a bad quit message19:48
ompaulnalioth, #ubuntu19:48
ompaulllnk was the user19:49
PriceChildAh I see him19:49
naliothlovely19:50
PriceChildI think elcasey a regular in #ubuntuforums as rm-rf.us19:51
jdongPriceChild: yeah, before that he had some colourful ones too19:52
PriceChildah yes19:52
PriceChildthose were threatenned against me a little iirc19:52
jdongso it might not be intentional19:52
PriceChildpardon?19:52
jdongPriceChild: the way I understood it, it was a randomly assigned bouncer hostname19:52
PriceChildoh no19:52
PriceChildhe chose it19:52
nalioththat was definitely NOT randomly assigned19:53
* ikonia notes down the best excuse "that was randomly assigned by my isp"19:54
jdonghaha19:54
PriceChildI think I'm going to start referring to Canonical as ¢anonical.19:56
Seeker`¢aN°N1¢aŁ19:57
PriceChildNot quite what I meant19:57
jdongKNonikal for all you Kubuntu supporters.19:59
* PriceChild head desks20:00
ompaulSeeker`, so nice of you to care20:00
ompaul¢ænøn→¢æł is not what he meant either20:01
Myrttii wan't ops at -offtopic20:23
Myrttinow20:23
Myrttiwant, even20:25
=== mc44_ is now known as mc44
* rob hazards a guess that Ubotu is just supybot running with some custom plugins that Seveas wrote having taken a look at what was pulled down from bzr21:10
Seveasyup21:11
robSeveas, so you just stuck everything into the plug-ins directory for supybot? What did you do with the stuff sitting in the main directory (the web stuff)?21:12
Seveascode for that lives in plugins/21:12
Seveasdata/config is accessible for the one taking over21:12
robah okay, so supybot has its own webserver?21:12
Seveasno, it's html and cgi served by apache21:12
roboh okay.21:13
=== Oh_man_im_banned is now known as dmcglone
dmcgloneX you here?21:34
stdindmcglone: evading bans, then bragging about it is not a good thing to do21:34
dmcglonedo I look like I need advise from you stdin?21:34
stdindepends, do you want to get back into #kubuntu ?21:35
dmcglonefirst I wasn't bragging about it, second I got banned for trying to show somebody something21:36
dmcglonethats why I was laughing about it21:36
stdinI know why you got banned, I set the ban21:36
Myrttisad21:37
stdinand if you got removed for it the first time, why do it again?21:37
dmcgloneyou talking about the first time I typed it?21:37
dmcgloneit's funny how I got banned for asking a stupid question, but that dude was cussing like a druken sailor and he didn't get banned21:38
stdinyes, you abused the bot and were using bad language so you were removed, then you did it again so were banned21:38
stdinthe 2nd time you did it, you said "<dmcglone> I got kicked the other day for this:"21:39
stdinso you have no excuse for it21:39
Myrttieven sadder21:39
dmcgloneoh so if I acknowledge why I got kicked, but someone else can cuss all day it's ok?21:40
stdinthat person was warned and stopped21:40
stdinyou were warned the first time, then persisted21:40
Myrttisomeone else's misbehaviour don't make your any more exceptable21:41
PriceChilddmcglone, others' behaviour is NO excuse for your own.21:41
dmcgloneAh I guess.21:41
Myrttiaccept.. oh whatever21:41
Myrttime, bed. todeloo fellas21:41
dmcglonewant me to ask for forgivness?21:42
stdindmcglone: please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:42
dmcglonewhy did you bring me in here in the first place?21:43
dmcglonebecause I was laughing about getting banned?21:44
stdinbecause otherwise you'd have reconnected in a day or two and tried to get back in to #kubuntu21:44
stdinlike you did this time21:44
dmcgloneOh so your saying I can't go back in there at all?21:45
stdinnot if you don't agree to abide by the guidelines, if you do then I have no problem letting you back in21:45
stdinall I ask is that you read the guidelines and agree to abide by them21:46
dmcgloneI have read them, but you took me out of #kubuntu because I was laughing about it.21:46
stdinno, I took you out because the original ban was still in place as well21:47
stdindmcglone: so you agree to abide by those guidelines?21:50
dmcgloneI always did21:52
stdinobviously not, as the guidelines do say not to abuse the bot and not to use bad language21:52
stdinas long as you agree not to do either, I'll unban you21:53
dmcgloneHmmm was I the only one?21:53
stdinonly one for what?21:53
dmcgloneI asked if I was the only 1 that used bad language in there21:54
stdinno, but you were the only one to have been asked not to prior to that21:54
dmcgloneNo I wasn't, and what I said was mild to what I seen, yet I'm the one that gets the 3rd degree21:54
stdinas others have said, others behaviour is no excuse21:55
dmcgloneI guess your right21:55
Seveasgood guess :)21:56
stdindmcglone: ok, you can rejoin #kubuntu now21:57
dmcgloneI'm wondering if I should21:57
stdinyour choice21:58
dmcgloneI'm afraid you will kick my butt if I do ;-)21:59
stdinas long as you abide by the guidelines, I'll have no reason to :)22:00
dmcglonewe both know I could just change my name and IP and be on in no time. LOL22:00
dmcgloneLOL22:00
Seveasand you'll be gone again in no time if you misbheave :)22:01
dmcgloneI'm just pulling your leg22:01
dmcgloneLOL22:01
dmcgloneare we good?22:01
SeveasI'm good, don't know about you :)22:01
dmcgloneI'm too old for this sh.... ah cought myself22:01
dmcgloneanyway, it's cool. I'm cool22:02
* LjL puts on his glasses22:02
LjLoh i was right! it's a troll!22:02
ikoniaLjL: your spotting tallent is strong tonight22:02
dmcgloneLjL nah i'm not a troll, i'm just sitting here getting the 3rd and acting stupid22:02
LjLwhich is certainly what this channel is for, yes?22:03
LjLalso, it's kind of a new level of trollage... to keep trolling and threatening ban evasion *after* the ban is lifted22:03
LjLwhen i was young, trolls actually pretended to be happy with their ban being lifted22:03
ikoniathe bar has been raised22:03
LjLthen acted ok for a couple of days22:03
LjLand then started trolling again22:04
LjLbut now just after being banned22:04
LjLnto22:04
LjLn. o. t.22:04
dmcgloneI got banned for showing something that I was banned for. LOL22:04
LjLwee recursive ban22:04
ikoniawhy is that funny22:04
LjLhope that's not too much of a strain on the servers22:04
dmcgloneit was stupid on my part, but hey some people have to lead by example22:04
dmcgloneikonia, I think it's funny because I'm way too old to care.22:05
dmcgloneand I think it was funny also because it was stupid on my part22:05
LjLyeah, at 15 you begin trolling out of habit rather than actually being thrilled at it as you are at 1422:06
dmcglonefor doing it 2 times!22:06
LjLbut, do you have any further issues to bring to us?22:06
dmcgloneam I supposed to leave?22:06
Seveasyes, this is not an idling channel22:06
LjLwell, yes22:07
dmcglonebut I was brought here?22:07
dmcgloneLOL22:07
dmcgloneOK22:07
dmcglonei'm kidding22:07
dmcgloneI'll leave, unless you would like to kick me?22:07
dmcgloneLOL bye22:07
LjLgah, he was too fast22:07
stdinyou can catch him in #k ;)22:08
LjLyeah i know, i just got a new highlight22:08
LjL(yay, now more than 50% of messages trigger me a highlight)22:08
naliothLjL: i suspect you need to reorder your highlights  :(22:14
LjLreorder as in priorities, or reorder as in remove some, or both?22:14
LjLsomething that makes me suspicious is that i often get highlighted and have no idea why22:15
LjLand browsing through the list is a bit too cumbersome, what with there being no search function22:15
naliothi suspect if you reprioritize, you'll remove some of the highlights22:15
LjLi suspect you're right22:16
ubotuposingaspopular called the ops in #ubuntu-us ()23:25
ubotuIn ubotu, bluefoxx said: !nethack-gnome is nethack23:27

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