[00:00] <AprilHare> LiMaO, don't put me in trouble :)
[00:00] <adamonline45> bruenig: I guess so :)  I thought those were the same thing...  Whatever <ctrl><alt><backspace> does :)
[00:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Pelo never thought of that
[00:00] <kitofhawaii> Ashfire908: are you using PPP as in dialup, or PPP as in broadband?
[00:00] <Sepheebear> lwizardl: check your logs, maybe the hfs partition isnt clean. thats why it comes RO
[00:00] <Ashfire908> kitofhawaii, it's a dialup connection via a cell phone in "high-speed" data packet mode
[00:00] <david_J> radio_gaga42: Ubuntu uses there own patches... So if you are using a vanilla kernel be wary that other stuff may not work..  Best bet is to get the source tree Ubuntu used and try to patch...
[00:00] <Ashfire908> kitofhawaii, dialup
[00:00] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter,  that's why they pay me the big bucks
[00:00] <bruenig> adamonline45, killall X should do it
[00:00] <david_J> radio_gaga42: if the patch works the just recompile it...
[00:00] <LiMaO> AprilHare: i'm just curious. never thought there was this much different from aussie to american/british english :)
[00:00] <lwizardl> Sepheebear, what log?
[00:01] <adamonline45> bruenig: ty :)
[00:01] <Ashfire908> kitofhawaii, gtg eat
[00:01] <Sepheebear> lwizardl: /var/log/syslog  or /var/log/kern.log IIRC
[00:01] <AprilHare> LiMaO, closer to british english
[00:01] <kitofhawaii> Ashfire908: 17.8KB/sec's pretty fast for cell phone. that's 144kbps.  i think most cell phone dialups top out at ~168kbps
[00:01] <Pirate_Hunter> Pelo: send me some plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[00:01] <radio_gaga42> david_j: tried ubunto does not boot on my notebook, so i filed a bug on kernel.org, the guy from ibm hen sent a patch for me to try
[00:01] <RainCT> hi
[00:02] <LiMaO> AprilHare: i speak british english. even though i don't keep the accent =P
[00:02] <david_J> radio_gaga42: Ugh joint #ugh and I'll try to explain...
[00:02] <AprilHare> LiMaO,that is, from american english
[00:02] <Sepheebear> lwizardl: i think even dmesg might have something in it too
[00:02] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter,  you cna do that now if you want,  you just make a sperarte partition formated in ext3 , move  your /home folder to it and add an extra line in fstab to mount it
[00:02] <radio_gaga42> david_j: thanks, will try
[00:02] <neil__> Hey guys
[00:02] <Ashfire908> kitofhawaii, i said ~17 KB/s. it's usally in the 16 KB/s range. if it gets to 17, it's like 17.0 or 17.1.
[00:02] <AprilHare> LiMaO, ic - not in britain?
[00:02] <LiMaO> AprilHare: btw, 'aussie' isn't considered to be a polite word, right?
[00:02] <T70K5> dude
[00:02] <LiMaO> AprilHare: actually i'm brazilian, thus in brazil ;)
[00:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Pelo: no i meant the bucks but thanx for the info
[00:03] <AprilHare> LiMaO, aussie fine by me
[00:03] <lwizardl> Sepheebear, nothing I guess I could log into windows and see if macdrive reports it as damaged
[00:03] <T70K5> I'm on a live cd, I can't burn a disk
[00:03] <Ashfire908> kitofhawaii, ok gtg.
[00:03] <T70K5> supergrub
[00:03] <kitofhawaii> Ashfire908: that's pretty typical. i think you're maxing out, if you want faster you have to go to EDGE or another high speed cell connection (ttyl have fun)
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> !sgd
[00:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <RainCT> if the Desktop was moved into the trash (don't ask me how my mother achieved this XDD), how can it be brought back to ~/?   fo
[00:03] <AprilHare> LiMaO, who told you aussie is bad?
[00:03] <gordonjcp> RainCT: move it back out of the trash?
[00:03] <theremper> I think kaffene will do the trick
[00:03] <Yaz> T70K5: you can burn a CD under live cd...i did exactly this this morning
[00:03] <theremper> thanks
[00:03] <RainCT> gordonjcp: it goes back there :S
[00:03] <T70K5> I have a usb jump drive
[00:03] <Pelo> T70K5, if you want youcan put supergrub on a usb drive,  assuming you can boot from usb,    super grub cd is less then 50 megs
[00:03] <gordonjcp> RainCT: it's important to remember that both Desktop and .Trash are just directoris
[00:04] <perlsyntax> is ubuntu base on windows?
[00:04] <RainCT> yes I know
[00:04] <gordonjcp> RainCT: you might need to do it from the command line
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> perlsyntax: no
[00:04] <T70K5> its like 3mb
[00:04]  * bastid_raZor laughs
[00:04] <lwizardl> perlsyntax, no based on unix
[00:04] <Yaz> yeah, supergrub is 3MB
[00:04] <Pelo> perlsyntax, no it is not ,  ubuntu is a linux distro
[00:04] <perlsyntax> ok
[00:04] <LiMaO> AprilHare: i don't remember who it was, but someone once told me it was a bad way to refer to australian people
[00:04] <Sepheebear> lwizardl: yeah the only way i could fix an hfs partition was with the OS X version of fsck
[00:04] <perlsyntax> i plan to get this for my mother for the hoildays.
[00:04] <theremper> and linux is a unix clone
[00:04] <RainCT> gordonjcp: I also tried with mv... but if I try to place a symlink there it goes back to the trash
[00:04] <gordonjcp> theremper: no, it's a Unix work-a-like
[00:04] <RainCT> strange..
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> perlsyntax: lol, its free you know
[00:05] <gordonjcp> RainCT: weird
[00:05] <perlsyntax> i know that
[00:05] <AprilHare> LiMaO, the natives don't mind it :) it might depend on how it's pronounced though - the way an american says it gives me the (whoops nearly 'swore' again) :D
[00:05] <Yaz> Does anyone know how I can get the size, shape and X,Y coordinates of a window?
[00:05] <perlsyntax> does dell support good with ubuntu?
[00:05] <Pelo> perlsyntax, ubuntu is based on linux the same way windows is based on dos ,  it's a different operating system with it's own set of applications ,  and unlike windows it is FREE
[00:05] <theremper> ok ok. gordon your right
[00:05] <T70K5> can someone guide me through this installation?
[00:05] <kitofhawaii> perlsyntax: dell supports linspire
[00:05] <lwizardl> Sepheebear, the only reason i need an hfs+ drive is for my 360 to playback wmv hd videos
[00:05] <Yaz> T70K5: sure
[00:05] <T70K5> putting this on a jump drive
[00:05] <penguin42> Yaz: xwininfo
[00:05] <genii> gordonjcp: Exactly... bsd is a unix clone, linux is a unix-like operating system
[00:05] <Yaz> penguin42: thank you very much
[00:05] <theremper> dell sells ubuntu laptops
[00:05] <lwizardl> Sepheebear, stupid ms doesn't support ntfs on the 360 (their own product)
[00:05] <loke> Perlsyntax, I don't advise pushing Linux onto an older family member.  It's difficult to adapt to a compeltely new environment to begin with, let alone when you'vce been used to Windows for decades.
[00:05] <perlsyntax> i lookon the web site they support ubuntu and freedos.
[00:05] <Pelo> T70K5, just unpack the ,iso , and copy it to the usb drive
[00:06] <gordonjcp> loke: why not?
[00:06] <T70K5> oh ok
[00:06] <genii> lwizardl: What filesystem is it using then?
[00:06] <T70K5> lol
[00:06] <T70K5> hold on
[00:06] <kitofhawaii> perlsyntax: actually..scratch that...dell supported it and then linspire told them not to use it anymore :)
[00:06] <Sepheebear> lwizardl: a MS product uses hfs???? wow!
[00:06] <gordonjcp> loke: there is no practical difference for most users
[00:06] <Pelo> T70K5,  you may need to use gparted to make your usb drive a boot flag
[00:06] <perlsyntax> my dad is upset becuase of the new windows that out.
[00:06] <perlsyntax> hard to find xp.
[00:06] <AprilHare> LiMaO, does everyone learn british english in brazil?
[00:06] <genii> hmm
[00:06] <lwizardl> genii, for playing back files from USB devices the drive must be either fat32 or hfs+
[00:06] <bastid_raZor> loke perlsyntax Kubuntu may be an easier transition from windows to *buntu
[00:06] <Yaz> vista is horrendous...
[00:06] <Yaz> imo
[00:06] <theremper> the new windows is why I switched
[00:07] <Pelo> perlsyntax,  what do you mean hard to find xp ? just dl the ubuntu live cd and show it to him
[00:07] <genii> lwizardl: Weirdness
[00:07] <Yaz> same
[00:07] <loke> gordon, it's hard to get used to.  Having to search for functional alternatives (like MSN, where no decent webcam support is offered).  Something as simple as fonts could confuse and bother some.
[00:07] <perlsyntax> i use ubuntu and look and feel like windows.
[00:07] <Pelo> perlsyntax, www.ubuntu.com
[00:07] <gordonjcp> my Mum has absolutely no trouble using Ubuntu at all
[00:07] <lwizardl> Yaz, Vista is the New Millenium Edition
[00:07] <gordonjcp> loke: no, it's not
[00:07] <LiMaO> AprilHare: nah. not a common thing. i myself studied it for 9 years in a british school
[00:07] <Yaz> lwizardl: exactly
[00:07] <T70K5> it says I don't have permission to write to my usb drive
[00:07] <Yaz> lwizardl: i didn't think anything could top ME, but I was wrong
[00:07] <T70K5> sorry I'm a linux newbie
[00:07] <AprilHare> Yaz, microsoft windows vista is the operating system of choice for self flagellationists
[00:07] <gordonjcp> loke: it's no harder to get used to than switching to a different make of car with the light switch on the other side
[00:08] <loke> gordon, I disagree completely.  It would be more like switching from an automatic to a standard.
[00:08] <Yaz> T70K5: you really should be able to burn a CD
[00:08] <Qjimbo> hello
[00:08] <lwizardl> Yaz, give it another 2-3 years and they will make something even worse
[00:08] <gordonjcp> loke: rubbish
[00:08] <Pelo> perlsyntax, the gui environnement of most computers today are pretty similar and familiar from one OS to another, differences are more under the hood then upfront
[00:08] <T70K5> I would do that, but I can't eject the cd while I'm running an OS off of it
[00:08] <Qjimbo> I have a question, I have ubuntu on my pc, connected through a crossover cable to this laptop which runs windows, I've enabled internet connection sharing on the windows machine
[00:08] <loke> gordon: rubbish isn't a defense, you're avoiding what I said.  What don't you agree with?
[00:08] <Yaz> T70K5: burn the CD, reboot, eject CD while it's booting, insert supergrub cd
[00:08] <daxroc> Evening all
[00:08] <kitofhawaii> i was under the impression from one of our last partner meetings microsoft's offering fulfillments for new vista owners to downgrade to xp now
[00:08] <Qjimbo> how do I configure the linux machine to access websites
[00:08] <Pelo> T70K5, don't burn,   unpack ,  right click , extract here
[00:08] <gordonjcp> loke: my Mum's using Ubuntu with no problems at all, and she's so incredibly non-technical that I need to drive over to her house to reset breaker switches if they trip
[00:09] <T70K5> I did that already
[00:09] <Pelo> Qjimbo, what do you mean browsing website ?
[00:09] <Qjimbo> as in, access the web
[00:09] <Qjimbo> with dns and all that jazz
[00:09] <gordonjcp> loke: it's not any harder to use for almost everything the average "older user" would do
[00:09] <loke> gordon: everyone's different, some people will have an easier time of it.  Some, also, do more in-depth work requiring them to search for alternatives.
[00:09] <adamonline45> gordonjcp: haha!  Good stuff 8)
[00:09] <daxroc> got ubuntu installed on my new mac mini
[00:09] <Pelo> T70K5,  jsut copy the files from the unpacked folder to the usb drive
[00:09]  * daxroc jumps with joy 
[00:09] <bastid_raZor> gordonjcp:: atleast if ubuntu has issues you won't have to drive over.. just ssh in
[00:09] <Qjimbo> right now I can't even ping this laptop
[00:09] <T70K5> I can't do that Pelo, it says I don't have permission
[00:10] <gordonjcp> adamonline45: I kid you not, I've driven a 500-mile round trip to reset a breaker about half a dozen times now
[00:10] <T70K5> how can I do it via terminal su?
[00:10] <Yaz> gordonjcp: omfg
[00:10] <gordonjcp> Yaz: my Mum is *very* non-technical
[00:10] <Pelo> T70K5,  open the terminal , sudo tar /Desktop/filename  ( remember linux is case sensitive)
[00:10] <Yaz> gordonjcp: I guess so! :)
[00:10] <Pelo> T70K5,  which part don't you have permission for ?
[00:11] <T70K5> r/w the usb drive
[00:11] <genii> Faceoff :)
[00:11] <gordonjcp> loke: admittedly she wasn't particularly used to Windows to begin with
[00:11] <lwizardl> yes on linux desktop & Desktop are two completely different folders
[00:11] <loke> gordon: my parents aren't very computer savvy either, and they couldn't get used to it.  Like I said, it's different for everyone.
[00:11] <gordonjcp> loke: what's so hard to get used to?
[00:11] <loke> gordon: my parents have been using Windows at home and at work as long as they've been using computers, so it's a big shock.
[00:11] <T70K5> how can I copy the folder and paste it onto the usb drive as root in terminal?
[00:11] <STcom> what would be an alternative video player to totem?
[00:11] <Pelo> T70K5,   sudo cp /Desktop/foldername/* /mountpoint/usbdrive ( probabaly /media/"labelonthedesktp"
[00:11] <gordonjcp> loke: hm
[00:11] <lwizardl> ok i'm going to reboot into xp and test this hfs+ drive
[00:11] <lwizardl> thanks for the help guys/gals
[00:11] <T70K5> ok, h/o
[00:11] <Pelo> T70K5,  what format is the usb drive ?
[00:12] <T70K5> not sure
[00:12] <T70K5> ntfs I think
[00:12] <loke> gordon: codecs not installed by default, lack of a messenger with webcam, cameras not automatically downloading images, etc.
[00:12] <kitofhawaii> loke: a big shock is buying a laptop with 1GB ram, booting up vista for the first time and seeing it's using 75% of physical memory :)
[00:12] <loke> gordon: it's mostly the little things.
[00:12] <UserUbuntu> hi, i need help!! im begginer in Linux.  I looking for a APT to install GCC, may any one help me?
[00:12] <richo> need frontend for rar dvd movies. "package manager" cant see *.rar
[00:12] <gordonjcp> loke: then you're using broken or obsolete things
[00:12] <Espen_7> anyone have an idea why i can connect to internet trough my wireless router, but not see my router or LAN?
[00:12] <gordonjcp> loke: if you plug a camera in, it just plain works
[00:13] <Pelo> T70K5,  ok ntfs will be a problem ( a solvable one) try the command first , if it is not enough we'll tell you how to remount the ntfs driver for wriite access
[00:13] <GIMP22> Does anyone know how would you have Linux execute a script on bootup?
[00:13] <soothsayer> UserUbuntu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:13] <Sepheebear> richo: you need to install the unrar package so fileroller can unrar them
[00:13] <loke> gordon: Up until recently, my camera wouldn't funciton in Ubuntu.
[00:13] <UserUbuntu> ok, i will try.
[00:13] <loke> gordon: I have to mess with some modules and configs, not sure what actually got it to work
[00:13] <gordonjcp> loke: if you try to do that with Windows, you've got to go and find a driver, update all the other drivers, install it, reboot a few times, run a virus scan, maybe find a few more updates for the driver, and then eventually it might let you get your pictures
[00:13] <GIMP22> or does anyone know if there is a way to change consoles in init 1?
[00:13] <kitofhawaii> GIMP22: depends on the script. what're you trying to execute?
[00:13] <richo> Sepheebear: hmm ok so search for rar and fileroller in synaptic then?
[00:13] <gordonjcp> loke: Windows is just too hard for normal users
[00:13] <Pelo> GIMP22,  put a launcher for it in ~/.config/autostart
[00:14] <loke> gordon: As a beginner, yes, but not for someone who's used to it.
[00:14] <loke> gordon: my parents know how to run a virus scanner, all of that, out of habbit.
[00:14] <Pelo> gordonjcp,  windows is just to hard "on" normal users
[00:14] <Joachim_Joe> Can someone help me? I have just installed Unbunto, new to linux, trying to install nvidia drivers, and I get an error message I must be logged on as root. How do I do this?
[00:14] <Sepheebear> richo: search "unrar" or in terminal "sudo aptitude install unrar"
[00:14] <Joachim_Joe> using the sh command
[00:14] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, install with sudo if you in command line
[00:14] <Pelo> Joachim_Joe, run the command with sudo , ei   type  sudo command  in the terminal
[00:14] <loke> sudo sh *.run
[00:14] <Espen_7> joachim: sudo su
[00:14] <gordonjcp> loke: my Mum doesn't know how to run a virus scanner, and shouldn't have to know
[00:15] <richo> Sepheebear: yeah but how to make fileroller use it ?
 i'm downloading, thank you!
[00:15] <enigmata> Schalk?
[00:15] <GIMP22> kitohawaii, I want to run some benchmarks in init 1 for a Xen VMM (so I don't want to have extra stuff running in init 3 +) so I want the VM to boot up execute the benchmark. But under init1 I can't ssh into the VM
[00:15] <GIMP22> Pelo, thanks
[00:15] <AprilHare> is there a virus checker for ubuntu?
[00:15] <AprilHare> cause there should be at this rate.
[00:15] <T70K5> Pelo
[00:15] <Sepheebear> richo: once installed file-roller "automagically" uses it
[00:15] <gordonjcp> loke: with Ubuntu it's simple, I told her "If you see a little orange and white flower thing in the top right, click it and put your password in, then go make a cup of tea"
[00:15] <Joachim_Joe> soldats, pelo, thanks.. I am in the terminal. I just type sudo
[00:15] <Sepheebear> just reopen fileroller
[00:15] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: why?
[00:15] <Pelo> AprilHare, several,  clamav is a native one but you can also get a linux version of avast from their seite
[00:15] <richo> Sepheebear: wow impressive
[00:15] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, yes, i hope you figure it out
[00:16] <loke> gordon: I understand what you're saying.  I'm not syaing Windows is easier for everyone, I'm saying it's easier to CONTINUE with it once you've been learning it for years.
[00:16] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: it's useful if you're scanning mail for Windows clients
[00:16] <Pelo> T70K5, hmm yessss ?
[00:16] <gordonjcp> loke: it depends
[00:16] <AprilHare> true
[00:16] <loke> gordon: I don't think it depends at all.
[00:16] <GIMP22> Pelo, I'm also trying to do this under root. Would I just create an autostart directory in /root/.config  and place my script in there?
[00:16] <gordonjcp> loke: as soon as you switch Windows versions, the game changes completely
[00:16] <T70K5> I need that command again... Desktop/super_grub_disk_0.9763.iso_FILES is the folder and /media/disk-3 is the jump drive
[00:16] <AprilHare> however its only a matter of time i suppose before linux gets viruses
[00:16] <loke> gordon: the basics are there.
[00:16] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: nope
[00:16] <stunatra> Windows is nothing but a pain in the ass.
[00:16] <loke> gordon: the foundation is consistent in its inconsistencies. ;)
[00:16] <Joachim_Joe> soldats, ok it is telling me the different ways of using sudo
[00:16] <adac2> can I somehow free ram memory manually?
[00:16] <Yaz> windows is great for gaming
[00:16] <Qjimbo> shared network connections certainly are
[00:16] <kitofhawaii> GIMP22: xen...i dunno i'm sorry, i haven't used it yet, so i'll have to defer to someone else (sticks to vmware in general)
[00:16] <gordonjcp> loke: the basics are just the same as the basics of any GUI desktop though
[00:16] <Joachim_Joe> I have the nvida file in the home directory
[00:16] <loke> gordon: Windows is easy when used out of habit, but to expect them to re-learn everything they know is asking a lot.
[00:17] <Pelo> GIMP22,  I don,t know if there is such a folder,  but you can probabaly add the script or a link to it in the init.d stuff , but I'm not leet enough to talk you throught that
[00:17] <gordonjcp> loke: but if they change to a different version of Windows, they'll have to re-learn everything from scratch anyway
[00:17] <Yaz> windows is the best gaming platform out there...all the consoles dont even come close
[00:17] <adac2> Yaz: yea because they bought all companies to produce their games in directx
[00:17] <T70K5> man..
[00:17] <Pelo> T70K5,  you called earlier ?
[00:17] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, this may hepl you it says dapper but all the commands should work
[00:17] <T70K5> yes
[00:17] <Yaz> adac2: yeah
[00:17] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[00:17] <GIMP22> kitofhawaii, thanks I'm not using VMWare because oprofile can't do much in terms of VMWare (I have to switch between Dom0 and DomU but can't do this in init1 since it doesn't support multiple consoles)
[00:17] <Pelo> T70K5, well ? what is up ?
[00:17] <GIMP22> thanks Pelo
[00:17] <loke> gordon: it's not an immediate shock, it's a progressing thing that comes with time.  You're still using the same apps, just newer versions.
[00:17] <T70K5> (12:16:22 AM) T70K5: I need that command again... Desktop/super_grub_disk_0.9763.iso_FILES is the folder and /media/disk-3 is the jump drive
[00:17] <T70K5> (12:16:22 AM) T70K5: I need that command again... Desktop/super_grub_disk_0.9763.iso_FILES is the folder and /media/disk-3 is the jump drive
[00:17] <Yaz> adac2: and i love gaming, and i think consoles stink
[00:17] <stunatra> Yaz, that is because the games are MADE for Windows.
[00:17] <T70K5> sorry
[00:17] <GIMP22> Pelo, any chance you know the location of init.d?
[00:18] <Yaz> i know...which is why it's great for gaming
[00:18] <Yaz> :D
[00:18] <Pelo> T70K5,  hold on
[00:18] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: there aren't any viruses for Linux, and it's unlikely that there will ever be a practical virus with the same impact as *any* Windows virus
[00:18] <T70K5> ok, thanks
[00:18] <qzio> hey! is there anyone more then me who has a broken firebug?
[00:18] <soldats> GIMP22, init.d is in /etc
[00:18] <richo> Sepheebear: Archive type not supported.  NOT supprises... synaptik and unrar free version installed.
[00:18] <GIMP22> thanks
[00:18] <adac2> Yaz: yea smae here
[00:18] <adac2> *same
[00:18] <richo> Sepheebear: *synaptic
[00:18] <enigmata> Can anyone help with sound drivers in Gutsy?
[00:18] <Joachim_Joe> soldats, when you message me I keep seeing a yellow border around my name, do you send your message just to me or what does that mean? Thanks, looking into it
[00:18] <Pelo> T70K5,  sudo cp /Desktop/super_grub_disk_0.9763.iso_FILES/* /media/disk-3
[00:19] <Pelo> T70K5,  that should be it , assuming you can write to the drive
[00:19] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: gratuitous highlight
[00:19] <loke> gordon: there are viruses for linux, just not any that can spread on their own.  You'd have to physically initiate it with super user priveleges.  But, in essence, it is a virus.
[00:19] <kitofhawaii> GIMP22: well i'm with you on that. we're looking at xen since citrix purchased it (we're a citrix partner so we have to ultimately know it inside and out)
[00:19] <gordonjcp> loke: not really
[00:19] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, it means your name or the text will be highlighted everyone else can see it as well bu it makes it easier for you to spot
[00:19] <Joachim_Joe>  gratuitous highlight
[00:19] <Sepheebear> richo: unrar is in the Universe repository. if youre in synaptic, you'll have to go into preferences and enable universe
[00:19] <gordonjcp> loke: it doesn't exhibit viral behaviour
[00:19] <AlReece45> I installed Ubuntu 7.10, it has yet to become usable. After startup (the ubuntu logo with the progress bar) where there should be a login screen, there is a blank screen.
[00:19] <loke> gordon: and by that you mean...?
[00:19] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: if I start a sentence with your name, it will highlight in your IRC window
[00:19] <kbrooks> ping
[00:19] <Joachim_Joe> oh so when you type my name it will highlight it
[00:20] <Pelo> AlReece45, waht is your video card ?
[00:20] <soldats> yes
[00:20] <gordonjcp> loke: well, it can't spread by itself, or alter other files to help itself spread
[00:20] <richo> Sepheebear: worked through terminal. thx
[00:20] <GIMP22> kitohawaii, good luck I'm using an older version and haven't done much more than the benchmarking stuff. Seems neat but doesn't have half the bells and whistles VMWare does.
[00:20] <Joachim_Joe> :) how nice, I did not see this IRC before and used it alot before
[00:20] <gordonjcp> loke: you could potentially do some sort of scripting worm
[00:20] <kbrooks> if you were working for yourself and asked in here, would you use 'we' or 'I'?
[00:20] <adac2> so again: is there a program that can free ram memory?
[00:20] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, type a few characteers of a name and press "tab" key and it should auto complete
[00:20] <AprilHare> gordonjcp, never say never wrt virii
[00:20] <AlReece45> Pelo: nvidia geforce go 6100 afaik
[00:20] <silent> viri aren't as verile on linux cause verbose verification validates various administrative commands
[00:20] <richo> Sepheebear: worked through terminal. thx. Dont know why synaptic version of it didnt do the trick. i know about multiverse etc.
[00:20] <T70K5> cp: cannot stat `super_grub_disk_0.9673.iso/*': Not a directory
[00:20] <Pelo> kbrooks,  we if you are royalty
[00:20] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: IS THIS A NEW irc feature or just of this server?
[00:20] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: nice :)
[00:20] <kbrooks> Pelo, are what?
[00:21] <Yaz> Joachim_Joe: always been there
[00:21] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, its donr this for a long time
[00:21] <loke> gordon: with super user permissions, you cold easily write a script that functions such as a virus.
[00:21] <kitofhawaii> GIMP22: true that...:) $1000 for an enterprise xen license vs $5750 for an ESX enterprise license does make xen look very appealing :-D
[00:21] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: it's basically too difficult - the reason Windows has so many viruses are purely because of design decisions in Windows
[00:21] <loke> could*, rather.
[00:21] <gordonjcp> loke: that's what I just said ;-)
[00:21] <gordonjcp> loke: you *could*
[00:21] <GIMP22> kitohawaii, hopefully VMWare will still win out. I have VMWare shares :-D
[00:21] <richo> Sepheebear: xarchiver installed also now. works there also.
[00:21] <Sepheebear> richo: havent used synaptic in a while but IIRC you could just search unrar by package name
[00:21] <T70K5> cp: cannot create regular file `/media/disk-3/super_grub_disk_0.9673.iso': Read-only file system
[00:21] <gordonjcp> loke: one vector would be a malicious Makefile
[00:21] <Pelo> AlReece45,  reboot your comp,  from the boot menu select the recovery mode then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   when asked select the vesa driver  , for everthing else, if y ou donT, know for sure use the provided defaults or donT' put anything in
[00:21] <Pelo> kbrooks, never mind
[00:21] <soulrider_> !modem
[00:21] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[00:21] <richo> Sepheebear: yeah and i found but that one didnt do the trick strangley.
[00:21] <loke> gordon: so, as I said, in essence, there are viruses for linux, they just don't work as intended.
[00:22] <nyoro> !nvidia
[00:22] <T70K5> man this sucks
[00:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:22] <kitofhawaii> GIMP22: lol vmware's not going anywhere...definitely not. next shareholder meeting tell them to fix their darn flexnet licensing so it works right :-D
[00:22] <richo> Sepheebear: but through terminal it worked?!  also xarchiver looks ok so now i have 2 options to do it ;) thx alot
[00:22] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: :) I see. BTW, followed the manual, getting the message: nvidia-glx is not available or is missing from the package.
[00:22] <Pelo> T70K5,do you have some free space on this comp ?
[00:22] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: should it be included with Ubunto?
[00:22] <GIMP22> kitohawaii, I'll be sure to do that :-)
[00:22] <T70K5> yes, quite a bit
[00:22] <AprilHare> gordonjcp, imho it may be due to the ubiquity of windows that so many virii exist for it
[00:22] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, i think it should try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[00:23] <Fezzler> What multimedia pc-tv cards work with Ubuntu?
[00:23] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: one more question: I have an intel64 pc, but am using the 32-bit version, would it be better to install the 64bit version?
[00:23] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: nope
[00:23] <Sepheebear> richo: that is strange but i use aptitude to manage and for some reason installs are much simpler
[00:23] <sake> #Ubuntu-pl
[00:23] <Fezzler> I want to watch tv and edit video on my Ubuntu PC
[00:23] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, you "should" be fine but the 64 bit may be better choice
[00:23] <Qjimbo> come on
[00:23] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: that helps, but the fact that Windows is designed to basically be wide open to anyone who wants to exploit it is the major thing
[00:23] <Qjimbo> someone must've used a crossover cable with ubuntu
[00:23] <Qjimbo> heeeelp =(
[00:23] <richo> Sepheebear: ok ill try to remember that. thx again. saved ALOT of time ;)
[00:23] <Pelo> T70K5,  ok   resize your / partiton, make a new ext3 partiton from the freespace, copy your /home folder to it , the reinstall ubuntu ,  when you get to the partiton selection section , use manual and tell the installer where to find your /home folder
[00:23] <ivx> hello all, i'm having a problem. I install dnsmasq and modified the config so what when i go to "intranet" it will take to a local web server, when i do dig intranet it comes up right, but then when i try to do it in firefox it does a google search for it, how can i turn that off so it sends the dns request and does it like a website
[00:23] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: no version of Windows can be adequately secured
[00:23] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: what about a crossover cable?
[00:23] <akincer> Having trouble playing DVDs. Totem is giving "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" GXine gives " Error reading NAV packet." Anyone else seen these errors?
[00:23] <AprilHare> gordonjcp, that makes it easier :)
[00:24] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: plug the crossover cable into each PC
[00:24] <Qjimbo> I have done
[00:24] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: that means reinstalling everything right?
[00:24] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: you set an ip on both sides?
[00:24] <gordonjcp> that should be you, then
[00:24] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: package nvidia has no installation candiate.
[00:24] <nubuntu> hola!
[00:24] <Qjimbo> what settins do I do on the linux box?
[00:24] <AprilHare> akincer, half the known universe may have - you need libdvdcss to play most dvds
[00:24]  * Pelo will only answer questions he has knowledge about , which isn'T much 
[00:24] <T70K5> I just tried reinstalling it
[00:24] <gordonjcp> kitofhawaii: it should set a 169.x.x.x IP addy by default
[00:24] <Qjimbo> the windows one has configured itself to 192.168.0.1
[00:24] <soldats> !nvidia | Joachim_Joe
[00:24] <ubotu> Joachim_Joe: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:24] <T70K5> but I still can't boot it
[00:24] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: ok
[00:24] <akincer> AprilHare: I've _got_ libdvdcss installed
[00:24] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: set the Linux one to a free address in the same range as the Windows one
[00:24] <Pelo> T70K5, are you installing ubjntu on the same hdd as your vista install or on an other one ?
[00:25] <Qjimbo> right
[00:25] <akincer> it's part of restricted extras which I have
[00:25] <T70K5> same hdd
[00:25] <AprilHare> hmmmmmm
[00:25] <AprilHare> akincer, can't help you then :)
[00:25] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: qjimbo: 192.168.0.1...that's a bit odd. are you running internet sharing on the xp box?
[00:25] <Pelo> T70K5, hmmm, cna you still boot vista ?
[00:25] <T70K5> no
[00:25] <akincer> Mplayer will play this disk, but the audio and video are WAY out of sync
[00:25] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: huh did I spell nvidia wrong?
[00:25] <Joachim_Joe> ubotu: thanks
[00:25] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[00:25] <soldats> maybe
[00:25] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: if you're running internet sharing, just plug the crossover cable in then "sudo dhclient <yourinterface>" it'll pick up an address from the xp box
[00:25] <Qjimbo> yeah I'm talking to you from an XP laptop that I'm borrowing
[00:25] <Pelo> can you get to another computer and ask a freind to dl and burn the supergrub iso ?
[00:25] <Joachim_Joe> ubotu, soldats: info coming up
[00:25] <Qjimbo> oh cool
[00:25] <T70K5> not right now, no
[00:25] <DrUnKnMuNkY1> hey everyone. my dsl connection seems to be dropping randomly about 5-6 times a day which is starting to get pretty annoying. does anyone know of any way to keep this from dropping?
[00:26] <techno-wi1> Quick question. I have two sata drives that were previously formatted ntfs in a fake raid0. I have disabled them as raid in the bios and want to set them up as software raid in linux. Installed ubuntu on a 3rd drive. When I run fdisk -l I don't see the two other drives. Any other command available to find them?
[00:26] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, you dont need to respond to ubotu because it is a bot
[00:26] <Joachim_Joe> ubotu: you are a bot?
[00:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are a bot? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:26] <richo> Sepheebear: time to sleep. thx for tip about aptitude and for solving my rar problems ;) ciao
[00:26] <Joachim_Joe> LMAO
[00:26] <Qjimbo> hmmm
[00:26] <Qjimbo> says "no such device"
[00:26] <Joachim_Joe> <<< ... learning
[00:26] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: i gather from the 192.168.0.1 that's what you got at least, 192.168.0.1 is typically what windows assigns itself when internet sharing's enabled
[00:26] <Qjimbo> yeah
[00:26] <ivx> techno-wil did you try it sudoed
[00:26] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: <yourdevice> is like "sudo dhclient eth0"
[00:26] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: or whatever the interface's name is...
[00:26] <enigmata> hehehe
[00:26] <Qjimbo> oo here we go
[00:26] <techno-wi1> yes, sudo fdisk l
[00:26] <Pelo> T70K5, I'M out of ideas atm,  you might want to give the forum a saerch , I know there were some issues dualbooting vista when it came out , maybe some of the answers about that might help with your current situation
[00:27] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: "ifconfig" will give you a list of interfaces
[00:27] <Qjimbo> it's doing something
[00:27] <Qjimbo> DHCPDISCOVER
[00:27] <T70K5> It's ok Pelo, I greatly appreciate the help
[00:27] <Qjimbo> hmm no DHCPOFFERS recieved
[00:27] <Qjimbo> very odd
[00:27] <techno-wi1> maybe they aren't showing up because they are formatted ntfs?
[00:27] <Pelo> later foks , I need a break to recover from my most recent failure
[00:27] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: you probably aren't running a DHCP server on your Windows box
[00:28] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: you getting a light on your ubuntu's network card?
[00:28] <Qjimbo> yeah the light is on
[00:28] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: so the lack of DHCP isn't surprising me
[00:28] <echosystm> is anyone able to help me share my internet?
[00:28] <Yaz> T70K5: I was afk, were you not able to do it?
[00:28] <Qjimbo> hmm
[00:28] <T70K5> no
[00:28] <Qjimbo> I thought with crossover dhcp wasn't needed
[00:28] <kitofhawaii> gordonjcp: it sound like he is...from the config it sounds like he's running internet sharing on xp (which runs dhcp)
[00:28] <Yaz> T70K5: where are you in the process?
[00:28] <T70K5> can you help via Yahoo?
[00:28] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: crossover doesn't make a difference
[00:28] <Qjimbo> right
[00:28] <ivx> techno-wil that doesn't mattor they must be unplugged or something
[00:28] <blade> hi there
[00:28] <T70K5> the same place I started
[00:28] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: oh...yah, you have to run dhcp...
[00:28] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: all that does is remove the need for a hub
[00:28] <echosystm> i want my xubuntu computer to share it's ath0 interface, via eth0 to my windows computer
[00:28] <akincer> AprilHare: OMG. I fixed it. Wanna know what it was?
[00:28] <Yaz> I have google talk T70K5
[00:28] <echosystm> are there any gui tools i can do this with?
[00:28]  * T70K5 @yahoo
[00:29] <Qjimbo> yeah but I thought XP internet connection sharing had dhcp
[00:29] <Qjimbo> hmm
[00:29] <AprilHare> question: i am unsure what graphics card i have in my pc. i have a nvidia motherboard. i typed 'lspci | grep -i nvidia' and got lots of information back including '03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)' - does this mean i have a geforce4 card and can i install specific graphics drivers for it?
[00:29] <gordonjcp> Qjimbo: are you trying to share your internet connection between your Windows PC and your Ubuntu PC?
[00:29] <AprilHare> akincer, yes. yes i do. :)
[00:29] <soothsayer> echosystm: firestarter
[00:29]  * akincer bangs his head on his desk
[00:29] <Qjimbo> gordon: yes
[00:29] <echosystm> thanks soothsayer
[00:29] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: it should...if you selected the defaults for setting up internet sharing, it should
[00:29] <akincer> AprilHare: Fingerprints on the disk
[00:29] <Qjimbo> hmm
[00:29] <gordonjcp> akincer: yes, and yes
[00:29] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: the nvidia site says IJ ust need to type: sh nvidia-linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[00:29] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: yes, and yes
[00:29] <Fezzler> Qjimbo: Samba the solution?
[00:29] <gordonjcp> akincer: mistab, sorry
[00:29] <akincer> np
[00:29] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: don't do that
[00:29] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, hmm that should work then id try it if i was you
[00:29] <gordonjcp> !nvidia > Joachim_Joe
[00:29] <Qjimbo> ah! I found more options!
[00:30] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: read what the bot just told you ;-)
[00:30] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: do you have a light on your ubuntu's network card? (confirming the crossover cable's working)
[00:30] <Qjimbo> on the windows box
[00:30] <akincer> Fingerprints on a DVD will get you every time
[00:30] <AprilHare> akincer, lol
[00:30] <AprilHare> gordonjcp, hints? :)
[00:30] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: trying to, a little hard.
[00:30] <kitofhawaii> Qjimbo: yah make sure it's set to provide dhcp services on the interface running internet sharing, and NAT
[00:30] <akincer> I've installed 4 or 5 video players trying to work it out. geez
[00:30] <gordonjcp> !nvidia > AprilHare
[00:30] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: the site says something else
[00:30] <gordonjcp> AprilHare: read what the bot told you
[00:30] <kritzstapf> hi, when i try to get images from my canon digital ixus 30, gnome-volume-manager-gthumb gives me that multiple "identify camera" request failed.. how to fix this?
[00:31] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: Ubuntu has a fairly specific way of installing the binary drivers
[00:31] <AprilHare> gordonjcp the bot spoke not
[00:31] <swhalen>  is there a way to turn an existing install into an OEM? i did not know it existed until it was too late :(
[00:31] <oscar_> hi all maybe somebody can help me with the setting for a external monitor with twinview
[00:31] <Qjimbo> hmm still no joy
[00:31] <zloog> Hi. Does anyone know the name of the program that lets you launch a terminal prog as a transparent, backround window on X? I'm trying to find a way to keep an eye on the hellanzb daemon...
[00:31] <AprilHare> !nvidia
[00:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:31] <AprilHare> yay
[00:31] <AprilHare> for me! ;)
[00:31] <Joachim_Joe> gotcha
[00:31] <enigmata> !bot abuse
[00:31] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[00:31] <kitofhawaii> dhclient you tried doing the dhclient again after enabling dhcp/nat?
[00:31] <oscar_> once the configuration is done, i get like main screen the external monitor
[00:31] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: does this mean, it's a complicated thing?
[00:31] <kitofhawaii> err
[00:31] <swhalen> !oem
[00:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[00:32] <LiMaO> i just with ubuntu was fast like debian, looked beautiful and polished as opensuse.. that would be sooo awesome =P
[00:32] <enigmata> !2girls1cup
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2girls1cup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <AprilHare> enigmata, i just was getting information from the bot that's all
[00:32] <gordonjcp> kritzstapf: does the camera work like a USB drive?
[00:32] <oscar_> i mean the login screen is coming in the external monitor and not in the laptop screen
[00:32] <gordonjcp> enigmata: behave
[00:32] <enigmata> !jok
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <akorn> Does anybody know why at the login screen i still have that crazy-fast drumbeat sound when it loads up, even though i've disabled all system sounds? Anybody know where it's located so maybe i can just delete the sound? Ubutnu 7.10...
[00:32] <enigmata> *joke
[00:32] <AlReece45> Pelo: I tried what you said, setting the xorg driver to vesa, and that didn't solve the problem. However, if I start it manually in rescue mode, /etc/init.d/gdm start it starts up (it does it with the nv driver as well). The problem seems to only occur when starting gdm automatically (or at least not manually in rescue mode)
[00:32] <gordonjcp> enigmata: some poor sod is going to google for that now
[00:32] <gordonjcp> enigmata: I hope you're pleased with yourslef
[00:33] <oscar_> which twinview setting does the main and secondary screen?
[00:33] <enigmata> Here I'll hep them out http://www.2girls1cup.com
[00:33] <AprilHare> all hail the google oracle
[00:33] <enigmata> Seriously guys, I need help from someone who really knows a thing or two about the audio drivers in Gutsy.
[00:33] <sam_> can anyone tell me how to use remote desktop?
[00:34] <infinitycircuit> enigmata, you will not get help if you are immature
[00:34] <gordonjcp> enigmata: seriously, don't do that
[00:34] <Yaz> ughhh
[00:34] <kritzstapf> gordonjcp: no its PTP, i solved it with moving canon.* out of the libgphoto directory now :)
[00:34] <Yaz> !!
[00:34] <soldats> sam_, vncviewer
[00:34] <Fezzler> sick
[00:34] <enigmata> Take a jk, i'm not being a troll here, just need help with a sound driver.
[00:34] <Yaz> I should have known
[00:34] <gordonjcp> kritzstapf: solved it then?
[00:34] <kitofhawaii> AprilHare: you know...half my consulting business has to do with googling fixes for clients :) of course they think i'm a genius while i'm mostly just good with a search engine these days :-D
[00:34] <kritzstapf> yes
[00:34] <gordonjcp> enigmata: well don't paste links to shock sites, then
[00:35] <enigmata> It's been days without my audio... Sorry, I need a little entertainment.
[00:35] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: I tried something else, I opened the Restricted Drivers window
[00:35] <fyksen> Hey, I have mic problems. I new to ubuntu, and I wondered if sombody could help me? : )
[00:35] <soldats> enigmata, do you have alsao
[00:35] <soldats> alsa
[00:35] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: I see my driver is not enabled, when I enable it, it says: the sfotware soruce nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[00:35] <AprilHare> kitofhawaii, naturally the true power of the google oracle must be wielded by those who know how to use her power correctly :D
[00:35] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: hm
[00:35] <JimmyHollghan> hello mans
[00:35] <lovedeatm> Gnea, it worked thanks (iceman)
[00:35] <Fezzler> how do you report someone to the sysop?
[00:35] <lovedeatm> i have a printer question can someone help me
[00:35] <JimmyHollghan> i wanna kill everybody,
[00:35] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: check the repos are enabled for it
[00:35] <sam_> ok let me check if vnc viewer is available or not in packages
[00:36] <fyksen> Hey, I have mic problems. I new to ubuntu, and I wondered if sombody could help me? : )
[00:36] <gordonjcp> enigmata: what exactly is happening with your audio
[00:36] <gordonjcp> ?
[00:36] <nyoro> Why is it that when i change the driver in the screen and graphics preferences window that the changes are not relected in the graphics card tab? I try to change it to nvidia, but it keeps going back to vesa.
[00:36] <AprilHare> grrrr "The software source for the package   nvidia-glx is not enabled."
[00:36] <gordonjcp> Fezzler: why?
[00:36] <T70K5> this really sucks
[00:36] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: my laptop has two graphic cards, I think it's using the intel and that's why I can't enable the nvidia
[00:36] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: that would do it
[00:36] <AprilHare> what exactly *is* the source?
[00:36] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: disabled it, not rebooting
[00:36] <enigmata> soldats, Yes, ALSAmixer is up and running. There is absolutely NO sound what so ever. I have sound with my dual boot Vista sector, but NONE with Vista
[00:37] <enigmata> *gutsy, not Vista
[00:37] <gordonjcp> enigmata: channels unmuted?
[00:37] <lovedeatm> srry so yah um anybody ready to help me with a printer issue..i need a driver for an hp deskjet 830C and 832C
[00:37] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: :) Thanks for your help 2nite. Bye bye.
[00:37] <enigmata> gordonjcp, please explain.
[00:37] <gordonjcp> !printing > lovedeatm
[00:37] <AprilHare> grrrr why can't i install nvidia-glx?
[00:37] <gordonjcp> lovedeatm: read what the bot just told you
[00:37] <sam_> i am using ubuntu 7.10 which package can i use for remoted desktop?
[00:37] <AprilHare> silly machine
[00:38] <sam_> and how to use?
[00:38] <fyksen> Hey, I cant get my mic to work, I wondered if somebodu could help me?
[00:38] <Joachim_Joe> Is there a way to connect to a windows remote desktop session with Ubunto?
[00:38] <gordonjcp> enigmata: check in alsamixer that you haven't got the channel you want to hear muted
[00:38] <lovedeatm> i did that already it didnt tell me where to get the drivers @
[00:38] <david_J> fyksen: is it muted/
[00:38] <lovedeatm> that was the first thing i did
[00:38] <jplever> Firefox leaked everywhere and now my system hangs and the hard drive clicks when I do anything, does anyone know a way I can clean up my system?
[00:38] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, the terminal server client in the menu
[00:38] <Jangari> how do i install a program from a .bin file?
[00:39] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, no problem at all
[00:39] <loke> jplever: the problem you're describing is unreleated to firefox.
[00:39] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:39] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: disregard, mis-tab
[00:39] <gordonjcp> Jangari: What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:39] <enigmata> gordonjcp, Mic is mm, IEC958 is mm, and Caller ID is mm.
[00:39] <kitofhawaii> lovedeatm: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html
[00:39] <soldats> enigmata, run in terminal alsamixer and turn "EVERYTHING" up
[00:39] <gordonjcp> enigmata: that seems reasonable
[00:39] <gordonjcp> enigmata: do you get any sound from anything?
[00:39] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp: just wondering if it were possible to connect to a MS Remote Dekstop session
[00:39] <enigmata> It's already done. FULL BLAST
[00:40] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: probably, but I've never done it
[00:40] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, yes you can do it using vncviewer
[00:40] <STcom> Here I sit, attempting to simply watch The Boondock Saints, yet neither Totem nor VLC will play it
[00:40] <gordonjcp> Joachim_Joe: and I don't have anything with Windows to test it with
[00:40] <STcom> suggestions?
[00:40] <Yaz> T70K5: Are you there?
[00:40] <sam_> where is vnc viewer soldats?
[00:40] <T70K5> yes
[00:40] <sam_> i can see all the other packages
[00:40] <Yaz> T70K5: Do you have google talk?
[00:40] <Joachim_Joe> gordonjcp, it is possible.. there is a terminal server client
[00:40] <T70K5> no
[00:40] <jplever> loke: is there any way to get things working again?
[00:40] <Joachim_Joe> ashfire098: cool
[00:40] <T70K5> I have Yahoo, and MSN
[00:41] <Joachim_Joe> soldats: have a good weekend :)
[00:41] <enigmata> sam_, check ubuntu forums, they have a 4 step tutorial that works great
[00:41] <Yaz> T70K5: If you install google talk I'll help you out.
[00:41] <loke> jplever: if your hard drive is clicking then it's likely on its way out.
[00:41] <sam_> oh great
[00:41] <kitofhawaii> Joachim_Joe: i use the terminal services client to connect to windows boxes
[00:41] <Yaz> T70K5: Or I'll just help ou here
[00:41] <soldats> Joachim_Joe, you too
[00:41] <T70K5> let me get it real fast
[00:41] <soldats> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Remote_Desktop_Sharing.2FDuplication_via_VNC
[00:41] <kitofhawaii> Joachim_Joe: be aware do not use 1) compiz fusion and 2) ts client in full screen mode at the same time (lest you have a kernel panic)
[00:41] <sam_> guys one more question ... 3 of my ntfs partitions are not mounted automatically
[00:42] <sam_> everytime i restart i have to double click and then type my password
[00:42] <Joachim_Joe> kitofhawaii: okay
[00:42] <loke> sam_: you'll have to add them to /etc/fstab
[00:42] <soldats> sam_, they need to be set in /etc/fstab
[00:42] <Joachim_Joe> Hmm, well my Nvidia card is still not enabled...
[00:42] <Joachim_Joe> It's listed but it won't enable
[00:43] <sam_> i dont know how the other 3 ntfs partitons are mounted automatically
[00:43] <Iggz> Hi, all - having one of those days, can you tell me which directory firefox can be found in please?
[00:43] <sam_> i didnt do anything with fstab at all for the other 3 partitions..
[00:43] <bruenig> Iggz, dpkg -L firefox
[00:43] <loke> sam_: they must be in your /etc/fstab, somehow.
[00:43] <kitofhawaii> Iggz: /usr/lib/firefox
[00:43] <loke> sam_: in the terminal, type this: cat /etc/fstab
[00:43] <sam_> ok wait  loke
[00:43] <Iggz> Bruenig thank you
[00:43] <loke> sam_: and see if there's anything related to your ntfs drives
[00:44] <Joachim_Joe> nvidia-glx-new is not enabled...
[00:44] <Joachim_Joe> what does that even mean?=
[00:44] <T70K5> Yaz, are you there?
[00:44] <sam_> i have all the drives there
[00:44] <Iggz> Kitofhawali Thank you
[00:44] <sam_> loke...i can see all the drives
[00:44] <T70K5> guess not
[00:44] <T70K5> lol
[00:44] <sam_> but i see only 3 drives on my desktop
[00:44] <oscar_> please somebody know why im getting my desktop and icons in the external monitor configurate with twinview instead that in th laptop screen?
[00:45] <loke> same_: their mount points, you can see them as well?
[00:45] <FaTFigueroA> cfg
[00:45] <sam_> iyes
[00:45] <loke> sam_*
[00:45] <sam_> u r right
[00:45] <sam_> i can see the mountpoints
[00:45] <AprilHare> bbl need to reboot
[00:45] <daedr1> test
[00:45] <Yaz> test
[00:45] <loke> sam_: well...then they're mounted, and the problem is that they're not displaying on your desktop.
[00:45] <T70K5> wb Yaz, can you just help me here?
[00:45] <Yaz> got booted
[00:45] <sam_> yes
[00:45] <sam_> exactly
[00:45] <sam_> they are not displayed on desktop
[00:45] <sam_> u r right
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: I think.... mounts in media appear on the desktop...
[00:46] <sam_> so what should i do?
[00:46] <loke> sam_: My appologies, for I don't know how to correct that.  There MIGHT be something in gconf-editor.
[00:46] <sam_> oh
[00:46] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, where do you see that
[00:46] <Yaz> T70K5: You're booted to the live CD, right?
[00:46] <T70K5> yes
[00:46] <sam_> yes jack only 3 of the drives are appearing strangely
[00:46] <sam_> other 3 are are not displayed
[00:46] <sam_> but i see all drives in fstab
[00:46] <Yaz> T70K5: put my nick in front of your replies so that it's easier on my eyes, ok?
[00:46] <T70K5> Yaz: ok.
[00:46] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, in the Restricted Drivers GUI I see my NVIDIA graphics card (7400) and status says. Not displayed... when I enable it, after all the warnings it says: The software soruce for the package nvidia-gl-new is not enabled.
[00:46] <daedr1> .
[00:47] <sam_> guys ? do u know which video card is best for linux?
[00:47] <sam_> and also wireless card
[00:48] <Yaz> T70K5: Were you able to burn supergrub to a cd?
[00:48] <loke> sam_: All nVidia cards will work flawlessly.  ATi works well, but is known to have issues.
[00:48] <sam_> yes loke
[00:48] <T70K5> no, the live cd won't eject
[00:48] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe: you need to enable the repository.
[00:48] <sam_> i have ATI ...and i have loads of issues with them
[00:48] <Yaz> sam_: my nvidia rocks
[00:48] <sam_> what is the model ? YAz
[00:48] <Yaz> T70K5: reboot the machine...while it is rebooting, eject the cd
[00:48] <kitofhawaii> loke: flawlessly...;-)
[00:48] <sam_> i am planning to buy nvidia 8600 GT 256 mb
[00:48] <Yaz> sam_: pny geforce 8500 512 gt
[00:49] <T70K5> ok
[00:49] <loke> kitofhawa: Flawlessly, until you want to install the proper drivers. ;)
[00:49] <T70K5> brb
[00:49] <Yaz> sam_: nothing special
[00:49] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe: in the menu: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[00:49] <kitofhawaii> sam_: the saying is "get nvidia or the penguin gets it"
[00:49] <sam_> hahaha kito ...i enjoyed that
[00:49] <loke> sam_: I own an 8600GT.  No issues that I've found.
[00:49] <sam_> great loke.. then i will go ahead and buy it
[00:49] <vladtzu> What line would I need to add to fstab to mount an ext3 partition at /dev/sdb1 to /home/josh/data  ?
[00:49] <sam_> my ubuntu 7.10 works well with my ATI x1400
[00:50] <loke> sam_: I hope you enjoy it.  However, if you have use for it, and can afford it, I suggest the 8800GT.  It has the best performance to price ratio.
[00:50] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, thanks that helped
[00:50] <sam_> oh
[00:50] <AprilHare> re
[00:50] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe: in the tab "Ubuntu Software", what checkmark boxeds are checked under "Downloadable form the Internet"?
[00:50] <kitofhawaii> sam_: most people have best luck with atheros chipset wifi cards, since there's good support (madwifi)
[00:50] <AprilHare> i'm surprised what a difference this nvidia driver has made
[00:50] <sam_> i didnt use 8600 GT i am just taking expert advice
[00:50] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908... and during install some files were nto installed, it made a log file, where would I find this?
[00:50] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, oh you already enabled it?
[00:50] <AprilHare> armagetron advanced still looks crap though
[00:50] <AprilHare> not sure why
[00:50] <sam_> atheros wifi?
[00:50] <sam_> ok
[00:51] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, when did you get that message?
[00:51] <sam_> do u know which model of aethros ?
[00:51] <AprilHare> the room background isn't present
[00:51] <sam_> so that I can be precise when i order
[00:51] <reallyjoel> Shoudln't new HDD's be listed in /media automatically?
[00:51] <AlReece45> Okay: After fresh (or near fresh) install, when gdm is supposed to start, the computer sortof blanks out. The screen is black, I have already tried changing the driver from nv to vesa, but that did not solve the problem. In recovery mode, I am able to start gdm manually `/etc/init.d/gdm start` and it comes up correctly for both drivers, it only seems to not work when starting up normally.
[00:51] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, one sec. i need to restart compiz i think.
[00:51] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, I can't rembember.. something about software updates. I think it's because my notebook was not connected to the Internet.
[00:51] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, ok
[00:52] <AprilHare> bbl
[00:52] <kitofhawaii> sam_: atheros is a chipset...they only make the chip. manufacturers put them in the cards
[00:52] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, I installed kde through synaptic. Where is the button I press to switch from gnome to kde pls?
[00:52] <loke> sam_: You'll want to look at any wireless cards and verify that they have the atheros chipset.
[00:52] <cafuego> Logout, choose 'KDE' on the login window, then login.
[00:52] <kelsin> RootyRootRootWoo: at the login screen you change your "session" to kde
[00:52] <RootyRootRootWoo> thanks both / logging out
[00:53] <sam_> loke .. u r right
[00:53] <loke> sam_: kitofhawa is the one who is right, I'm just re-inforcing his/her point. =]
[00:53] <sam_> when i bought this dell inspiron 6400 in the beginning of this year i didnt look much as it was necessary for my education i had to buy urgently but now i am just taking time before i can fix
[00:54] <loke> sam_: Patiently researching compatible hardware is a good idea.
[00:54] <reallyjoel> Shoudln't new HDD's be listed in /media automatically?
[00:54] <sam_> yes
[00:54] <sam_> especially if it has to work with linux
[00:54] <sam_> research is important
[00:54] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, then that means whatever that was installing didn't because it couldn't download the package. there should be no issue, as it was in the downloading phase and shouldn't of done anything wrong.
[00:54] <sam_> that is how i came across sabayon also
[00:54] <soldats> reallyjoel, they need to be mounted in order to see them in /media
[00:55] <kitofhawaii> sam_: http://www.atheros.com/news/Retail.html check out the cards there but confirm the one you get has an atheros chipset (check revision etc) before you get it
[00:55] <sam_> yes let me check it
[00:56] <reallyjoel> soldats, how do i mount?
[00:56] <sam_> which one are u using kito?
[00:56] <soldats> reallyjoel, right click on drive and choose mount
[00:56] <pgdx> Need help: I'm trying to make my own install cd based on the Ubuntu 7.10 server. I followed a manual on the net, but there is no such file as ./casper/squashfs.filesystem. Doesn't the server CD have squash?
[00:56] <reallyjoel> drive..? it's the drive I dont have..
[00:57] <Randomist> I want to clean install Ubuntu but I don't want to kill my home directory (I forgot to put it on another partition).
[00:57] <soldats> reallyjoel, if you want them to auto mount everytime you need to add them to /etc/fstab
[00:57] <Yaz> Anyway, is anyone from the Boston area?
[00:57] <Randomist> How can I clean install without killing mah home directory
[00:57] <Randomist> --my
[00:57] <circaen> ok,I have a Gateway 832GM, xp completely crashed and it didnt come with a disk, so im trying Ubuntu..but im getting hardware erros..i cant read them because they go too fast..i read up and everything i have read seemed like my computer would work fine..
[00:57] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908: hope so, I could not really check the error messages at that time.
[00:57] <kitofhawaii> sam_: me? cisco :) but that's because i use it for work. (it's a bit pricy)
[00:57] <loke> Randomist: You'll have to create a backup, as installing ubuntu requires you to format the main partition, which includes the /home directory.
[00:57] <pgdx> circaen:  shift-page-up ?
[00:58] <sam_> lol kito....
[00:58] <sam_> i am using dell laptop
[00:58] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908: also thank you for your help :) One final question. Is it possible to install use KDE with Ubunto and what are some good sites to start learning about Linux in general?
[00:58] <circaen> pgdx, someone else told me to use caps lock, but ill go try Shift
[00:58] <sam_> and i am planning to buy dell inspiron 1521
[00:58] <kitofhawaii> sam_: have you checked to see if dell offers minipci cards for your laptop?
[00:58] <sam_> yes
[00:58] <sam_> it offers minipci cards
[00:58] <pgdx> Joachim_Joe: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:58] <Yaz> Joachim_Joe: check out kubuntu
[00:58] <sam_> the one i have now is dell 1390 mini
[00:59] <sam_> it is not compatible with ubuntu
[00:59] <sam_> so i get disconnected frequently
[00:59] <UserUbuntu> help, i need install gcc in ubunto, i tried "sudo apt-get install build-essential", but continues "gcc: no input files"
[00:59] <onats> does anyone have any experience installing ubuntu on the new lenovo thinkpad x61/x61s?
[00:59] <sam_> and it doesnt connect to all access points that easily
[00:59] <sam_> unless the signal strength is 80 or more it doesnt connect
[00:59] <kitofhawaii> sam_: minipci is relatively "universal" so you should be able to find an atheros minipci card that dell supports
[00:59] <sam_> yes
[01:00] <sam_> i will ask them ...if they have one ..
[01:00] <infinitycircuit> onats, are you having an specific problems
[01:00] <loke> UserUbuntu: sudo apt-get install gcc-4.2
[01:00] <kitofhawaii> sam_: and you won't have some pc card with a flimsy antenna hanging out the side of your laptop :)
[01:00] <UserUbuntu> thanks i will try it;
[01:00] <onats> infinitycircuit, no, but am planning to buy these, if i dont get any information re. problems.. lenovo's on sale
[01:00] <sam_> i know
[01:00] <sam_> but still
[01:00] <pgdx> I'll repeat my question in case someone missed it: I'm trying to make my own install cd based on the Ubuntu 7.10 server. I followed a manual on the net, but there is no such file as ./casper/squashfs.filesystem. Doesn't the server CD have squash?
[01:00] <onats> one of these that is..
[01:00] <zanthus> hi everybody.  Does anyone know if there is a way to limit the download speed when downloading updates in update manager on gutsy?
[01:00] <sam_> it is so hard for me to connect to any access point
[01:00] <infinitycircuit> onats, thinkpads have excellent support for linux.  you should have no problems
[01:01] <kitofhawaii> sam_: if you do get a pc card...i recommend spending the extra $5 for card insurance, so when you bust the antenna, wherever you get it will replace it for free
[01:01] <infinitycircuit> onats, but you should think about which network card you install
 impossible find gcc-4.2
[01:01] <circaen> pgdx, it works until it gets to the end of the list of errors..is there a way i can pause it from going so fast?
[01:01] <sam_> great...kito..i will remember that...
[01:01] <Joachim_Joe> Yaz, is Kubuntu a proper release?
[01:01] <infinitycircuit> onats, atheros works well but the support for the newer intel chipsets improves all the time
[01:01] <K_Dallas> Q: Would it be possible at all to make my Epson-pinter (scanner-fax) CX5800F work under Gutsy? Right now, x-sane doesn't recognize it neither cupsys. Thank
[01:01] <Joachim_Joe> I just would like KDE
[01:01] <kitofhawaii> sam_: compusa offers it :)
[01:01] <sam_> hahahhaa
[01:01] <pgdx> circaen: try this: less /var/log/messages
[01:01] <loke> UserUbuntu: You might have an older version.  Try sudo apt-cache search gcc|grep gcc
[01:01] <pgdx> circaen: or: dmesg | tail
[01:01] <pgdx> ehm, no: dmesg | less
[01:01] <circaen> where do i put that?
[01:02] <onats> infinitycircuit, but the support for the intel chips come from? the community?
[01:02] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, what was that command againß
[01:02] <pgdx> write it after you log in
[01:02] <loke> UserUbuntu: Look for the last one, it should be something like...gcc-4.2, or gcc-3.4, or similar.
[01:02] <sam_> what other linux distributions do u use apart from ubuntu?
[01:02] <sam_> kito..
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[01:02] <onats> dammit.. how can i order this without windows
[01:02] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, sorry
[01:02] <kitofhawaii> sam_: centos, opensuse
 ok
[01:02] <Yaz> jeez...
[01:02] <Yaz> is anyone else getting bounced?
[01:02] <CppIsWeird> how do i upgrade my feisty to gutsy?
[01:02] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908: Could not open file, open 13 permission denied.
[01:02] <eunia> ls
[01:02] <pgdx> CppIsWeird: apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <sam_> i have installed open susie in virtual box
[01:03] <tyronepolleri> hi do you know how to change the color of the text in the terminal to white?
[01:03] <Yaz> it seems like xhat-gnome just disappears when i get dc'ed
[01:03] <sam_> but i couldnt get desktop effects work
[01:03] <circaen> pgdx,where do i put that?
[01:03] <pgdx> But preferably with the gui package manager
[01:03] <loke> sam_: Open susie? :D
[01:03] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, KDE on ubuntu is kubuntu.
[01:03] <sam_> yeah?
[01:03] <loke> sam_: I'm pretty sure you'd have to pay for that
[01:03] <STcom> how many plug-ins are needed to use video players on ubuntu?
[01:03] <eunia> hey guys, I am trying to set up some wpa_encryption, and I am having trouble getting it to work with Intel wireless card
[01:03] <onats> infinitycircuit, is the 3945ABG good/ok already?
[01:03] <Ashfire908> !kde > Joachim_Joe
[01:03] <pgdx> circaen: after you log in, in a terminal
[01:03] <sam_> i installed free version
[01:03] <Ashfire908> !kde > Ashfire908
[01:03] <pgdx> circaen: you have logged in, right?
[01:03] <sam_> which ever is available on their website
[01:03] <loke> sam_: Sorry, bad joke.  It's "Open Suse"
[01:03] <eunia> anyone have any ideas of what I should do
[01:03] <Joachim_Joe> !kde
[01:03] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[01:03] <sam_> hahaha
[01:03] <sam_> :D
[01:03] <kitofhawaii> sam_: it's a pain...opensuse doesn't have as good package handling so anything outside of yast is hit or miss
[01:03] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, i really don't know any good linux sites :(
[01:04] <sam_> ok thank god... i used it as virtual machine
[01:04] <circaen> I cant log in, it gets to the loading screen and stops on three bars, i have tried Ubuntu and freespire
[01:04] <Dr_willis> linux.org :) tldp.org are good..
[01:04] <sam_> i am happy with ubuntu 7.10
[01:04] <loke> sam_: I personally can't stand yum or yast...or whatever the others use.  I stick to debian based distributions.
[01:04] <pgdx> circaen: try pressing alt-f2
[01:04] <sam_> no major issues
[01:04] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, thanks :) could not find package kubunto desktop.. download it first? Okay about the Linux sites
[01:04] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, you have synaptic, apt-get, or aptitude running somewhere. turn it off before you do try whatever you did again.
[01:04] <sam_> :d yum or yast yes...u r right they are very painful compared to what i saw in ubuntu
[01:04] <sam_> it is so easy here
[01:04] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, i really don't know any good linux sites :(
[01:04] <loke> Joach: It's ubuntu, not ubuntu.  sudo apt-cache search kubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <sam_> no wonder it is famous
[01:04] <sam_> and widely used
[01:04] <pgdx> Joachim_Joe: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. It's written with u's, no o's
[01:04] <Yaz> loke: I agree.  Until trying Debian I never realized what it was that I didn't like about other distros/linux
[01:04] <captmorgan> I have a couple annoyances I was hoping to get help with, first all new windows open as minimized but are the whole screen like a maximized window, any way to fix that?
[01:05] <Yaz> loke: packages!
[01:05] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, it's kubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <sam_> even the commands make so much sense....i am able to understand them...here
[01:05] <loke> Yaz: YES!!! RPM's are a pain, but for that, we have alien!
[01:05] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, lol ok
[01:05] <sam_> hahaahh :d who is the alien?
[01:05] <Joachim_Joe> AShfire908: silyl me, what's that about snypatic?
[01:05] <Yaz> loke: agreed 100%
[01:05] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, is there a stask manager? lol
[01:05] <tyronepolleri> does anyone know how to change the color of the text in the terminal please :(?
[01:05] <sam_> god ...yum was horrible when i used fedora 8 ..
[01:06] <loke> sam_: Alien is another "package" to handle rpm's (native for fedora, whereas we have .deb).
[01:06] <kitofhawaii> loke: lol...alien. alien kicked my puppy a few times :) aka if it works great, when it doesn't *ouch*
[01:06] <junkeR> hello everyone,  Will Hardy Heron still run good on 256MB RAM systems?  Anyone use it yet or have any info?
[01:06] <tarzeau> tyronepolleri: yes
[01:06] <Yaz> tyronepolleri: gnome terminal?
[01:06] <Joachim_Joe> AShfire908, graphic card is working... :) that's the first major thing in Ubunto .. working now, with effects
[01:06] <sam_> yeah ....fedora 8
[01:06] <tarzeau> tyronepolleri: man console_codes
[01:06] <sam_> god no...people will hate linux if they use it
[01:06] <tyronepolleri> Joachim_Joe, system administration system manager
[01:06] <captmorgan> tyronepolleri: edit currentprofile
[01:06] <tyronepolleri> Yaz, yes
[01:06] <loke> tyronepolleri: Right click in the terminal, click "Edit Current Profile".   Click the colors tab and go from there.
[01:06] <tyronepolleri> tarzeau, tell me please
[01:06] <rabbitod> ?
[01:06] <pgdx> I'll repeat my question in case someone missed it: I'm trying to make my own install cd based on the Ubuntu 7.10 server. I followed a manual on the net, but there is no such file as ./casper/squashfs.filesystem. Doesn't the server CD have squash?
[01:06] <Yaz> tyronepolleri: right click in the terminal window and select 'Edit current profile'
[01:07] <tyronepolleri> loke, the color tab changes the background not the text
[01:07] <Yaz> tyronepolleri: then select the color tab
[01:07] <wisa> hi
[01:07] <Yaz> tyronepolleri: above the background color selector is the text color selector
[01:07] <tyronepolleri> Yaz, is that for the text or only for the background
[01:07] <wisa> i have a question
[01:07] <loke> tyronepolleri: There's a "Text Color" option.  It's oner of the first.
[01:07] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, Synaptic is the Package Manager
[01:07] <pgdx> hi wisa
[01:07] <bmt2> hello to all
[01:07] <Joachim_Joe> goodness, my cpu is so low as it's never is with windows
[01:07] <Joachim_Joe> 1%
[01:07] <bmt2> i have a question in regards to my wireless connection....
[01:07] <tyronepolleri> I got it thanks everyone
[01:08] <tyronepolleri> :)
[01:08] <pgdx> bmt2: fire at will
[01:08] <loke> tyronepolleri: No problem!
[01:08] <pgdx> loke: a little late, there :p
[01:08] <bmt2> when i am at my brothers house, and he has a wireless network....i can not see his connection
[01:08] <wisa> please...who can tell me where i find the german ubuntu chat called irc.ubuntu24.de ?
[01:08] <captmorgan> I have a couple annoyances I was hoping to get help with, first all new windows open as minimized but are the whole screen like a maximized window, any way to fix that?
[01:08] <pgdx> bmt2: but elsewhere?
[01:08] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, that error is because either apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic is running and you then tryed to run one of those programs.
[01:08] <bmt2> how do i "show" possible wireless connections
[01:08] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, only one can be running at a time
[01:09] <pgdx> bmt2: well, by clicking the network icon up to the right
[01:09] <Joachim_Joe> haha my screens wobble when I maximize minimize
[01:09] <bmt2> i do that, it does not show me a listing of possible wireless connections
[01:09] <pgdx> bmt2: or writing iwlist scan eth1 or wlan0 or something in termnal
[01:09] <loke> Joachim_Joe: That's compiz.  Enjoy it!
[01:09] <Joachim_Joe> Ok, I am in that package manager, Ashfire908, do I enable it?
[01:09] <bmt2> it just shows me "connection properties"
[01:09] <Joachim_Joe> loke: lol
[01:09] <sam_> for installing wireless ----ndiswrapper steps in ubuntu forum is that enough?
[01:10] <bmt2> pgdx: just type my wireless interface in a terminal ?
[01:10] <pgdx> bmt2: Do you happen to know the name of the interface? eth1? wlan0? Does it work at other places than at your brother's?
[01:10] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, ...
[01:10]  * Ashfire908 screams
[01:10] <pgdx> bmt2: yep
[01:10] <sam_> i know there are restricted drivers opton in "system"but other than that to install manually...
[01:10] <Joachim_Joe> loke, is that what they show in the Novell ads?
[01:10] <steven_> hello everyone
[01:10] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, what are you trying to do right now
[01:10] <steven_> i'm having a bit of trouble with sshd
[01:10] <mnemonica> Hey, I can't save the file: /usr/bin/compiz   It says I don't have permissions... How can I access it as superuser?
[01:10] <steven_> it segfaults when i connect
[01:10] <Joachim_Joe> AShfire908, add the KDE
[01:10] <pgdx> steven_: auch
[01:10] <Joachim_Joe> I am trying to close whatever you say is open AShfire908
[01:10] <steven_> it's not pretty
[01:10] <steven_> i've never had this happen before
[01:11] <gladier> hey guys - i accidentily dragged my Desktop folder to the garbage bin - how the hell do i get it ou?
[01:11] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, and then it's bed time lol
[01:11] <pgdx> mnemonica: sudo ... ?
[01:11] <xapon> I had downloaded an imagem but not by extension .iso and so .nrg ( nero for win ) someone knows some program who can I write an imagem on CD?
[01:11] <bmt2> pgdx: let me try that
[01:11] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, why are you trying to save over that file???
[01:11] <pgdx> gladier: lol
[01:11] <steven_> Dec  8 17:08:44 puffin kernel: [ 1398.007009] sshd[7511]: segfault at 00005555557e6710 rip 00005555557e6710 rsp 0000000040ffe378 error 15
[01:11] <bmt2> pgdx: ok that didn't work ! lol
[01:11] <mnemonica> because I need to change a memory setting from 64mb to 32
[01:11] <Joachim_Joe> gladier: that's something that will probably happen to me too, new at this
[01:12] <gladier> i cant believe i hit delete ... theres no restore option ... which is what im currently looking for
[01:12] <mnemonica> ashfire908: Because I need to change a memory setting from 64 to 32.
[01:12] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, and why are you then trying to overwrite the compiz program?
[01:12] <pgdx> bmt2: ifconfig -a gives you three or more listings? lo, eth0 and ... ?
[01:12] <steven_> i'm up to date (just checked) and running gutsy amd64
[01:12] <steven_> any ideas?
[01:12] <UbuntMe> Hey, does anyone know of a program where I can convert my songs to different formats?
[01:12] <mnemonica> Ashfire908: Because I get "cannot enable desktop effects" when I try to enable them. Any of them.
[01:12] <UbuntMe> Also, movies to different formats
[01:12] <kitofhawaii> gladier: open nautilus, navigate to your home folder. open trash, drag your desktop into nautilus
[01:13] <pgdx> gladier:  try a terminal and ls .Trash
[01:13] <Yaz> graphical disk map is neat-o
[01:13] <pgdx> gladier: perhaps cp -R .Trash/Desktop .
[01:13] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, ...
[01:13] <Qjimbo> ok this is weird, I have my computer plugged directly into the router, however I can't ping the router or anything, and the lights are lit up on the socket so it's definitely connected
[01:13] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, are you trying to change the compiz settings?
[01:13] <bmt2> pgdx: no pgdx...that is not what i am talking about.....for instance in windows you can right-click on the wireless interace, and it will say : "Show Available Wireless Networks"....or something of that saying....
[01:13] <steven_> ubuntme: mencoder or transcode
[01:13] <bmt2> that is what i am talking about
[01:13] <pgdx> Qjimbo: do you have an IP?
[01:13] <gladier> kitofhawaii thansk that worked ... i tried cutting it before but that was greyed out
[01:14] <pgdx> bmt2: do you know if the drivers work ...=
[01:14] <pgdx> ?
[01:14] <mnemonica> ashfire908: Sure. I suppose. but I know that what I need is in this file. I need to save it, if it doesn't work I'll just go back in and change it back to a 64.
[01:14] <kitofhawaii> gladier: np :)
[01:14] <mnemonica> ashfire908: So would you be so kind as to inform me on how to save it?
[01:14] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, it's not.
[01:14] <pgdx> mnemonica: sudo nano /usr.....file
[01:14] <circaen> pgdx,i got  error_code+ox72/0x80  task_rq_lock+0x4a/0x80
[01:14] <bmt2> pgdx: i am not 100% on that...because i have had problems where my wireless network at home will work, and then it will not work
[01:14] <circaen> and some more
[01:15] <pgdx> Last try ... I'm trying to make my own install cd based on the Ubuntu 7.10 server. I followed a manual on the net, but there is no such file as ./casper/squashfs.filesystem. Doesn't the server CD have squash?
[01:15] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, I typed sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destkop, am I rite or wrong?
[01:15] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, /usr/bin/compiz is a program, not a settings file
[01:15] <mnemonica> ashfire908: Then could you inform me as to where it -is-? Because that's the file that came up when I issued the prompt command
[01:15] <steven_> anybody have any suggestions as to what to do when openssh-server crashes on attempted login?
[01:15] <pgdx> Joachim_Joe: right
[01:15] <Ashfire908> Joachim_Joe, that is right.
[01:15] <mnemonica> pgdx: and, thank you.
[01:15] <pgdx> steven_: restart the server
[01:15] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, what prompt command?
[01:15] <sebasianffx> somebody that help me please!!!
[01:16] <sebasianffx> when you have a kernel panic, is not possible to recover the O.S?
[01:16] <pgdx> steven_: as in /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:16] <Biohazard> Does anyone has a link where it is explained, why you shouldn't use sudo instead of gksudo with GUI applications?
[01:16] <Qjimbo> pgdx: according to the network settings I have DHCP enabled
[01:16] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908, cool.. now I logged off and on again to get rid of any open process but now it says, can't find package
[01:16] <steven_> pgdx: i've tried that
[01:16] <steven_> i even ran it with debug mode on
[01:16] <pgdx> steven_: still crashes -> fix /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:16] <Qjimbo> and ifconfig shows that stuff ahs been transmitted
[01:16] <steven_> it doesn't give any enlightening error messages
[01:16] <steven_> it's a fresh install
[01:16] <steven_> just 10 seconds ago
[01:16] <steven_> haven't customized sshd_config
[01:16] <devinus> when will firefox3 be released?
[01:16] <pgdx> Qjimbo: tried ifconfig in terminal?
[01:16] <sam_> do i have to do kernel update in ubuntu?
[01:16] <sam_> is it required?
[01:17] <STcom> okay now, anyone know why ubuntu would have just completely crashed on me?
[01:17] <sam_> if yes then how?
[01:17] <pgdx> steven_: but you have installed openssh-server
[01:17] <Qjimbo> pgdx: yeah thats what I did to see
[01:17] <STcom> was just browsing and messaging
[01:17] <steven_> yes
[01:17] <Qjimbo> and it shows that packets have been sent and recieved
[01:17] <steven_> i haven't changed the sshd config from the defaults
[01:17] <xapon> Someone knows some program to Burn a Imagem on CD, by extension .NRG?
[01:17] <steven_> i just apt-get installed it
[01:17] <steven_> tried to log in
[01:17] <pgdx> steven_: sounds like a bug which needs to be reported to launchpad
[01:17] <steven_> and it crashes
[01:17] <loke> Biohazard: Using sudo for GUI applications could cause minor problems like Firefox not keeping extentions, or serious problems such as not being able to log in anymore.
[01:17] <steven_> sigh
[01:17] <mnemonica> *sigh* Didn't work either way. lol
[01:17] <steven_> i was afraid of that :/
[01:17] <captmorgan> STcom, not sure, any other pertinent info?
[01:18] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, DO - NOT - EDIT - /usr/bin/compiz
[01:18] <STcom> captmorgan: sadly, not
[01:18] <Yaz> Where can I find 'screenlet manager'?
[01:18] <pgdx> Qjimbo: What about an IÅ address?
[01:18] <pgdx> IP
[01:18] <loke> Biohazard: It could possibly change the permissions in the .ICEauthority file.
[01:18] <STcom> captmorgan, it just shut off
[01:18] <sake> #Ubuntu-pl
[01:18] <STcom> captmorgan, and wouldn't allow me to log on for the first 3 times
[01:18] <loke> Biohazard: And since you asked for a link...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96661
[01:18] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, *sigh* editing it is like trying to edit a .exe file in windows.
[01:18] <mnemonica> ashfire908: I already did... It didn't do anything. I'm going to change it back now... Why was it SO important that I don't edit that file?
[01:19] <Biohazard> loke: thanks a lot
[01:19] <captmorgan> STcom: is this just a one time thing how long have you had ubuntu?
[01:19] <loke> Biohazard: Not a problem.
[01:19] <mnemonica> ashfire908: Right. And what I wanted to do was restrict it from using anything over 32mb of memory.
[01:19] <Joachim_Joe> :( just hibernated the first time with Ubuntu
[01:19] <Joachim_Joe> nice ugly screen
[01:19] <STcom> captmorgan, i've had it for a couple of weeks, and it's shut down occasionally, but nothing that didn't allow me to log back in
[01:19] <Qjimbo> pgdx: it appears I have an ipv6 address
[01:19] <Joachim_Joe> colourful lines
[01:19] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, IT"S NOT A SETTINGS FILE! IT"S A PROGRAM EXECUTABLE!
[01:20] <loke> mnemonica: I don't think you understand how it works.  You can't directly limit the memory usage.
[01:20] <Joachim_Joe> looks like clouds
[01:20] <bmt2> is there a command that i can do in a terminal that will show me avaiable wireless networks
[01:20] <Joachim_Joe> on top of colors
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> Ashfire908: Although, there are legitimate Windows tweaks that involve a .exe and a hex editor.  The analogy doesn't transfer though.
[01:20] <pgdx> Qjimbo: try sudo dhclient eth0
[01:20] <loke> mnemonica: and /usr/bin/compiz is kind of like...msn.exe.  You can't "edit it" like that.
[01:20] <pgdx> bmt2: i told you ... iwlist scan eth1/wlan0
[01:20] <Yaz> I edited usr/bin/compiz when emerald was giving me problems
[01:20] <aolaus> is there a configuration file for compiz that is editable?
[01:20] <Yaz> it was just a text file
[01:20] <mnemonica> ashfire908: I did that, but it didn't resolve the issue that I'm having with my video card. So thank you for attempting to help, but I have multiple sources that said contrary to you. Maybe I don't understand it, but I'm sure that the several individuals that posted guides did... It didn't affect anything anyway, so I don't really care now. Once again, thanks for the effort.
[01:21] <Ashfire908> tonyyarusso, it's the smae basic thing. don't edit it's not a settings file
[01:21] <pgdx> bmt2: but if your wireless card doesn't show in ifconfig -a you've got a driver issue
[01:21] <loke> Yaz: I think that's how compiz used to be.  Not sure how it is now.
[01:21] <Joachim_Joe> Ashfire908: Thanks a bunch! Gonna try this KDE thing tomorrw, I think you answered enough of my questiosn :P
[01:21] <onats> is there a program for linux that i can use to create multi-page pdfs from scanned documents?
[01:21] <Joachim_Joe> Bye everyone! Happy 2. Advent
[01:21] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, fine. go *** up your system.
[01:21] <pgdx> onats: open office?
[01:21] <onats> pgdx, which prog in open office? the word processor?
[01:22] <pgdx> Ashfire908: let mnemonica try
[01:22] <pgdx> onats: writer
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> Ashfire908: Under all normal conditions, right.  (For example though, changing the text of the "Start" button I believe involves editing explorer.exe)  Not for the faint of heart though, flat-out stupid when you have the source anyway, and completely useless when it's not even the right file :P
[01:22] <Qjimbo> eech, some process called "IRQ-16" is using all my CPU
[01:22] <zeroc00l> hi Guyz
[01:22] <Rafabe> hi. I need help setting up my wireless connection, but I use Xubuntu. Would the procedure be the same for both flavors, ie can I ask here?
[01:22] <loke> mnemonica: That's not a file you edit unless you're SURE of what you're doing.  Since you're asking how...I'll assume you're not sure.
[01:22] <mnemonica> ashfire908: Don't be a jerk. I ALREADY EDITED THE FILE. IT DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. I CHANGED IT BACK. NO HARM DONE. Go eat a sock.
[01:22] <loke> mnemonica: A simple typo could cause compiz to no longer work.
[01:22] <squidink> what's the easiest way to install vmware-player in gutsy?
[01:22] <pgdx> Rafabe: know your way around a terminal?
[01:23] <Rafabe> pgdx: nope, first time using linux
[01:23] <Rafabe> although, I know OF it
[01:23] <Rafabe> if it's just a command that launches a wizard, I can take it from there
[01:23] <lovedeatm> pgdx, is there a ubuntu server channel?
[01:23] <Ashfire908> pgdx, are you aware what mnemonica is doing?
[01:23] <pgdx> Rafabe: well ... wireless is wireless, but Gnome has some tools XFCE doesn't. But if you have install xubuntu, there's no problem installing Gnome programs
[01:23] <Yaz> god, i keep DCing
[01:24] <Ashfire908> *is/trying to do?
[01:24] <Yaz> anyway...i edited /usr/bin/compiz
[01:24] <pgdx> lovedeatm: eh, why do you ask? Don't know, my first time here
[01:24] <Yaz> it was just a text file
[01:24] <sebasianffx> when you have a kernel panic, is not possible to recover the O.S?
[01:24] <mnemonica> loke: I understand that. It already doesn't work, I'm trying to figure out what is wrong. There is a line in that "file" or "executable" or whatever the hell it is, that has something to do with NVIDIA's memory. The value is normally 64, but some cards can only handle compiz if the value is 32. I don't know why, but it doesn't mater.
[01:24] <mnemonica> Yaz: Thank you... jeez
[01:24] <pgdx> sebasianffx: you can get your data if that's what you want
[01:24] <Ashfire908> huh
[01:24] <mnemonica> lol
[01:24] <pgdx> sebasianffx: and, so, yes
[01:24] <lovedeatm> pgdx, i have server issues and question
[01:24] <Rafabe> I know of one command: ifconfig, and running it shows that it detects my wireless card, and the "RX" packets keep increasing. Therefore it seems to work, I just need to enter a connection. Everything is disabled (greyed out) in Apps > System > Network, so I need to figure out how to enter my WPA key and SIID
[01:24] <Rafabe> SSID
[01:24] <Qjimbo> sebasianffx: I think if you boot off the unbuntu cd there's a "rescue broken install" or something
[01:24] <lulu> hi, xserver-xorg fails on ATI Radeon  X700 (gutsy), any ideas on how to solve the problem?
[01:24] <pgdx> lovedeatm: fire at will
[01:24] <Qjimbo> *ubuntu
[01:25] <lulu> I saw in launchpad that it was solved , but my card fails
[01:25] <loke> mnemonica: Yes, there is such a line.  "cat /usr/bin/compiz | grep 64
[01:25] <loke> mnemonica: outputs... "NVIDIA_MEMORY="65536" # 64MB
[01:25] <lovedeatm> pgdx, i am going to set up a server that does RTASS
[01:25] <loke> "
[01:25] <xiven> I need some help please
[01:25] <mnemonica> loke: yes.
[01:25] <pgdx> loke: or: grep 64 /usr/bin/compiz :p
[01:26] <xiven> I have Ubuntu Fiesty installed...and..I can get an IP, and nameservers...but I cannot ping anything (not even my router), nor connect at all...
[01:26] <mnemonica> loke: that was the line of code that I changed. all I did was change the 64 to 32, it didn't do ANYTHING noticable. I changed it back.
[01:26] <AlReece45> gdm fails to start when booting ubuntu normally. What would prevent it from starting or how can I get it to work as expected?
[01:26] <lovedeatm> pgdx, i need to know what kinda of setup to use (ie lamp) for such purposes (RTASS means audio streaming)
[01:26] <pgdx> lovedeatm: Well ... icecast?
[01:26] <Qjimbo> xiven: I have the EXACT same problem!
[01:27] <lulu> AlReece45, bad xorg.conf configuration, did you have desktop running at least once?
[01:27] <Qjimbo> and I can't figure out what the bloody hell is going on
[01:27] <xiven> My internet, is wireless broadband, although, up until the Modem itself, its wired.
[01:27] <pgdx> lovedeatm: Are you asking which distro to install, or what packages under Ubuntu?
[01:27] <loke> mnemonica: If you're trying to make it 32mb, then the number would be 32768
[01:27] <AlReece45> lulu:afer booting to recovery mode, I can start gdm manually.
[01:27] <Yaz> I just installed screenlets, but how do I run it?
[01:27] <mnemonica> loke: The guide said to simply change the value "64MB" to "32MB"
[01:27] <Qjimbo> interesting xiven, my network is also wireless, though at the moment I've got the computer plugged directly into the router with ethernet
[01:28] <mEck0> what differs ubuntu desktop and server edition?
[01:28] <lovedeatm> pgdx, weh you pop in the installation CD i get 2 choice of installation
[01:28] <mnemonica> loke: Ah. I see now... The 64 is noted.
[01:28] <jackaesop> xiven: perhaps a driver problem?
[01:28] <pgdx> mEck0: a lot, no GUI in server
[01:28] <loke> mnemonica: The "64MB" part is commented, so it's not directly part of the config.  The 64xxx is what needs to change
[01:28] <pgdx> lovedeatm: ah, well ... What are those?
[01:28] <pgdx> LAMP and?
[01:29] <lovedeatm> pgdx, you get lamp and something else...i don't know which will suit my needs and there is another issue in volve brb let me get you a link to my full question
[01:29] <mnemonica> loke: Awesome, thanks. I'll change that and see if it helps.
[01:29] <lulu> AlReece45, uhm, so it looks like its not xorg.conf fault, I'm clueless, sorry
[01:29] <PirateHead> How do I enable extensions for Epiphany in Ubuntu?
[01:29] <loke> mnemonica: No problem.
[01:29] <xiven> Qjimbo> Who is your Wireless provider?
[01:29] <Pelo> PirateHead, epiphany does not have extensions like firefox does,  there are a few plugins, check in the about screen for the link to the epiphany website
[01:30] <PirateHead> Pelo: You are incorrect. There are extensions for Epiphany just like Firefox. I'm just wondering how to enable them.
[01:30] <Ashfire908> mnemonica, I"M (*(*^#*^ SORRY FIRST REACTION TO SOMEONE EDITING /usr/bin/* OR THE LIKE IS THAT THEY ARE EDITING A EXECUTABLE FILE SO I"M %$@%$&^# WRONG CONGARTS YOU ARE NOT A RETARD  I AM GO SIT ON YOUR PEDICAL WITH YAZ WHICH I SUSPECT IS ACTUALLY YOU DUE TO THE TIMING.
[01:30] <lovedeatm> pgdx, http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19501
[01:30] <Qjimbo> xiven: oh you mean wireless wireless, I meant my router has wifi
[01:30] <loke> PirateHead: Pelo is implying that the extensions are different.
[01:30] <Pelo> PirateHead, check the epiphany website
[01:30] <Qjimbo> ashfire908 wtf dude
[01:30] <Pelo> loke, not implying, saying outright
[01:30] <Qjimbo> chill
[01:31] <Yaz> Will I get kicked off the server if I dont have a registered nick?  xchat keeps crashing
[01:31] <lulu> AlReece45, did you check the logs already?
[01:31] <Cpudan80> !divx
[01:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <loke> Yaz: My nick isn't registered.
[01:31] <AlReece45> lulu: which logs should I check?
[01:31] <mEck0> pgdx, ok, because I want to install ubuntu again after I've tested archlinux for a couple of days. I think it is faster than ubuntu, but maybe to much to configure... which wm should I install ubuntu with do you think?
[01:31] <xiven> Well my internet is wireless...but i have it wired all the way up to the Modem itself.
[01:31] <PirateHead> Pelo: From the Epiphany website: "Epiphany runs all the same popular plugins that run in Mozilla."
[01:31] <pgdx> lovedeatm: if you don't want Apache/Mysql/PHP, don't choose the LAMP. It depends what you want from your server. If you just wish to stream aufio from it, just apt-get install icecast and ices
[01:31] <lulu> AlReece45, probably xorgs, and I don't know if gdm dumps logs too, you can find them in /var/log
[01:31] <mnemonica> loke: Meh... Didn't affect anything. I still can't enable desktop effects
[01:31] <Pelo> PirateHead, then the website should tell you how todo it
[01:31] <xiven> WIndows connects fine as you can tell. But, Ubuntu refuses to do more then get teh IP and DNS
[01:32] <adamonline45> What's the command (smbaddusr)?
[01:32] <Pelo> xiven,  maybe the ppl in #networking can advise you
[01:32] <loke> mnemonica: Perhaps it would be best to go to the ubuntu forums.  The information we would need takes up an excessive amount of space.
[01:32] <synthase> is there a way to revert back to a previous configuration point in ubuntu?
[01:32] <PirateHead> Pelo: It says that the extensions package should be available through your distro, at which point I came here and posed my question.
[01:32] <meanjean> does ubuntu come with ndisgtk?
[01:32] <pgdx> mEck0: whatever you like. Gnome is to Ubuntu as KDE is to Kubuntu. If you don't like Gnome after a while, just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, you can test KDE
[01:32] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[01:32] <mnemonica> loke: Alright, thanks.
[01:32] <Cpudan80> I have a DiVX encoded avi file -- that doesn't playback in VLC
[01:32] <Cpudan80> I hear the sound - but dont see the picture...
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Cpudan80,  thats odd..  Where did it come from?
[01:33] <Pelo> PirateHead, check in synaptic search for epiphany  there is possibly a -pluggin package
[01:33] <synthase> Cpudan80: what codec do you have?
[01:33] <Cpudan80> synthase: ehh no idea
[01:33] <xiven> Does anyone know how I might fix the problem?
[01:33] <mEck0> pgdx, ok, thx
[01:33] <Cpudan80> The file info says Divx
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Cpudan80,  right click on it - select properties. check the tabs for detailed info
[01:33] <david_J> Cpudan80: You prolly need the codec ffmepg try mplayer
[01:34] <pgdx> btw --- if you install icecast, just know that something has to stream the music to icecast for icecast to stream to other users
[01:34] <lovedeatm> pgdx, ok, do you kwhat a standard config would be? if not or if its to detailed dun worry about it
[01:34] <Cpudan80> Dr_willis: It says ehh Mpeg-4 divx
[01:34] <Pelo> PirateHead,  sudo apt-get install epiphany-extensions
[01:34] <bconnolly> i have no wifi connectivity icon in my menu bar anymore
[01:34] <Cpudan80> version 3
[01:34] <pgdx> lovedeatm: Standard server install? Or regarding to the streaming stuff?
[01:34] <bconnolly> how can i get it back?
[01:34]  * xiven wishes he could figure out the problem
[01:34] <PirateHead> Pelo: I found it in synaptic. I had been looking for it in Add/Remove programs. Thanks though. :-)
[01:34] <X-Sleepy-X> http://web.comhem.se/~u51024107/
[01:34] <bconnolly> nyone?
[01:34] <pgdx> bconnolly: the same way you find your wallet when you have lost it. Remember what you did to remove it
[01:35] <lovedeatm> pgdx, standard server install
[01:35] <bconnolly> i think i removed the panel
[01:35] <meanjean> Can anyone help me with setting up a wireless network? I want to use ndisgtk (which was supposed to come with ubuntu), but I can't even get the program to install
[01:35] <AlReece45> lulu: Would "Screen 0 is not DRI capable" cause any problems relating to startup?
[01:35] <Pelo> PirateHead, add remove is only good for apps  not for libs or extras
[01:35] <titi> what should i chose between k3b and brasero ?
[01:35] <bconnolly> but it's not a choosable panel to add
[01:35] <bconnolly> so i can't get it back
[01:35] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why samba might not be broadcasting to XPs network neighborhood?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> titi,  try them both.. use what you like.
[01:35] <Cpudan80> david_J: ahh ok - I didnt have that one for some reason
[01:35] <Cpudan80> thanks
[01:35] <Dr_willis> adamonline45,  you did enable some samba shares?
[01:35] <pgdx> lovedeatm: No, unfortunately. But enough. SSH and all other needed GNU-utils. No GUI, though. So you need to know your way around the terminal
[01:36] <Pelo> meanjean, isn't ndisgtk just a frontend for ndiswrapper ?
[01:36] <david_J> Cpudan80: np
[01:36] <titi> thanks
[01:36] <Pelo> !wifi | meanjean
[01:36] <ubotu> meanjean: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:36] <pgdx> lovedeatm: Or, at least manage to apt-get install iceast2 ices / mpd
[01:36] <david_J> meanjean: What card?
[01:36] <meanjean> Pelo, yeah it is, i used the guide that came with ubuntu that said i could find it with synaptic, but i didn't show up
[01:36] <Qjimbo> dhcp discover just is not working
[01:37] <meanjean> david_J, belkin f5d7050, i have a few guides for installing it
[01:37] <pgdx> lovedeatm: and, btw, VLC can also stream, but I think, if you wanna set up a radio station, that icecast is more suited
[01:37] <zeroc00l> adamonline45: it's a thing that I have noticed, Ubuntu fresh install, see the XPs network neighborhood, when you want to share a folder it wants install Samba and then it'll be more time to see the others XP computers
[01:37] <david_J> meanjean: never used one...
[01:37] <Pelo> meanjean, did you spell it right ? is y our computer connected to the interenet (wired) ?  that might help you get the extra stuff,  the gtk package might not be on the cd
[01:37] <m1r> hello
[01:37] <lovedeatm> pgdx, ok thanks
[01:38] <m1r> how do i upgrade my system from 7.04 to 7.10 ?
[01:38] <Pelo> !upgrade | m1r
[01:38] <ubotu> m1r: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:38] <Cpudan80> david_J: it still doesn't want to play :-/
[01:38] <m1r> ty pelo
[01:38] <zeroc00l> adamonline45: I think that the problem is in the smb.conf, you might want to edit the file manually with the right configuration of your network
[01:38] <meanjean> I'm only a HS student, so I have my own (OLD) computer in my own room, I;m using the family's right now, with a wired connection and wi-fi router
[01:38] <lulu> AlReece45, xorg log?, if it has EE it is an error, if it is WW its only a warning
[01:39] <david_J> Cpudan80: You install the packages from Medubuntu?
[01:39] <AlReece45> lulu: It has EE next to it.
[01:39] <david_J> Cpudan80: prolly mispelled...
[01:39] <meanjean> Pelo, the card is a usb adapter...worked fine with windows i just can't get the drivers instaled, I'm new to the terminal with ndiswrapper...so i'd rather use ndisgtk
[01:39] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: I have it set to security level user... Doesn't that automatically share each users home directory?
[01:39] <david_J> Cpudan80: I can play divix just fine
[01:39] <Cpudan80> david_J: I installed the ubuntu-extras for restricted formats
[01:39] <adamonline45> zeroc00l: I'll check it out, ty :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis> adamonline45,  i do not think it does.. check the smb.conf - see if the home definitions are commented out.
[01:39] <Pelo> meanjean,  it will proabaly be easier if you use the computer the pacakge is to be installed on and wire it to the router for this task  then relaod the packages in synaptic and search again for the package
[01:39] <lulu> AlReece45, so try looking for the error in google :), I never have dealt with that error
[01:39] <david_J> Cpudan80: google medubuntu
[01:39] <Qjimbo> is it possible to access the setup options from within the installed ubuntu os (I used ubuntu studio with the text based installer)
[01:40] <AlReece45> lulu: okay
[01:40] <larson9999> got this dell dimension case i want to reuse.  it's got a motherboard in it with those hooks and i can't figure out how to get it out.  anyone know the secret?
[01:40] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Good thinkin', I'll do that... Thanks :)
[01:40] <ivan_> !list
[01:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:40] <Dr_willis> adamonline45,  i normally manually edit that file. enaable the home shares. and i ALSO givbe the users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[01:40] <Pelo> meanjean,  I don,t know enough about wifi to realy help you , the best I can do is walk you through some of the commands if you are unfamiliar with linux in general
[01:40] <Dr_willis> adamonline45,  there may be some gui/other ways to enable all this..but im too old-skool
[01:40] <super61> hello everyone i need help installing and configureing ePSXe
[01:40] <meanjean> Pelo, that would help...all i know right now is how to install it (which didn't work but I think i installed ndiswrapper
[01:40] <Pelo> super61,  have you been to the epsxe website ?
[01:41] <super61> Pelo; yes i have and theres no help there
 : ePSXe is not executable you have to unpack it to get the executable
[01:41] <super61> uncommon: what do you mean?
[01:41] <Pelo> meanjean,  to use ndiswrapper you need to get the .inf file for the windows driver, put it somewhere convinient on your ubuntu partiton then start ndiswrapper from the command line and point it to the .inf file
[01:42] <Cpudan80> david_J: Are you playing it back in VLC?
 : ePSXe is not statically link to any shared library yet you have to unpack it you have to download something i forgot the name
[01:42] <david_J> Cpudan80: never install vlc... I use mplayer
[01:42] <Cpudan80> oh
[01:42] <PirateHead> Is there an Epiphany extension to add a search bar like the ones in Mozilla, Opeara, IE7, etc?
[01:42] <meanjean> Pelo, that's where i get lost...how do i 1)start ndiswrapper from the terminal and 2)tell it to use those drivers?
[01:42] <synthase> how can I reinstall all the packages associated with network support(wireless card drivers, ieee802.11, etc) in gutsy?
[01:42] <super61> uncommon: what do you mean unpack?
[01:43] <Pelo> super61,  from what I can remember ,  and there isn't much,  you also need to dl a bunch fo virutal machine packages, from further in inside the site  and load those virutal drivers in the epsxe prog, I suggest you google for a how to
[01:43] <lovedeatm> pgdx, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder. can i do that
 : do you have the ePSXe ? the main application file?
[01:43] <super61> uncommon: yes i do
[01:43] <Pelo> meanjean,   do you know how to open a terminal ?   menu > applications> accessories  > gnome-termnal
[01:43] <meanjean> pelo, yep i can get there, just don't know what to type
 : have u tried invoking it trough terminal like so "./ePSXe ? does it run?
[01:44] <Pelo> meanjean, then just type sudo ndiswrapper ,  the rest should be self evident I thnk , never actualy done it
[01:44] <lazarus_lupine> they really should make the terminal more accesible
[01:44] <super61> uncommon: yes i have and nothing happens
 : if it doesn't you have to unpack it...
[01:44] <meanjean> ok, i've been typing sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper...and it tells me it can't dinf the directory
[01:44] <meanjean> *find
[01:44] <\`slushpuppy`\> lazarus_lupine , there's keyboard shortcuts :|
[01:44] <Pelo> lazarus_lupine, set it to open when I press the windows key on my kb
[01:44] <super61> uncommon: what do you mean unpack?
 : ePSXe can't run wait i will give the name of the application to download
[01:45] <\`slushpuppy`\> mine is alt+ T :p
[01:45] <super61> uncommon: ok
[01:45] <meanjean> pelo, how do i tell it what driver to use if its in home/driver.inf?
[01:45] <lazarus_lupine> I use yakuake Pelo
[01:45] <david_J> meanjean: ndiswrappwer -i *.inf
[01:45] <Pelo> meanjean, follow david_J 's advice he seems to know more about this then I do
 : try this first "ldd ePSXe"
[01:46] <meanjean> ok, thanks
[01:46]  * Pelo assigns  david_J  to help meanjean 
 : what does it tell you? it can't be identified isn't it?
[01:46] <super61> uncommon: ldd? im still a little new with ubuntu\
[01:46] <meanjean> david_J, so all i need to do is start ndiswrapper in the terminal (sudo ndiswrapper) and specify the driver?
 : invoke it trough terminal type this "ldd ePSXe" and press enter
[01:47] <david_J> meanjean: yeah but your stuff wont stick when you reboot
[01:47] <super61> uncommon: ok hold on
[01:47] <meanjean> david_J, how do i add it to the kernel?
[01:47] <david_J> meanjean: if all goes well you'll have a wlan0 device
[01:47] <lovedeatm> ok last thing pdgx or pgdx, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19141 have a lok at that question plz and see if you can tell me what to do from there
[01:47] <david_J> meanjean: modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:47] <super61> uncommon: it cant find it
[01:48] <eyemean> hello, is it me or is it a slow process to extract a 700meg file from a .rar on ubuntu? or is there a faster extracting program?
[01:48]  * Pelo makes notes on david_J 's performance ,  no pressure 
[01:48] <super61> uncommon: its on my desktop so you know
 : see told you first copy it on the same folder and rename the other as ePSXe_Bakup
[01:48] <Pelo> eyemean,  it is a fairly slow process  it can take a few minutes
[01:49] <super61> uncommon: where do you want me to move it?
[01:49] <meanjean> david_J, thanks for the help...I'll try it out and if i have any problems I'll talk to you about it
 : if your ePSXe is in your desktop you have to be in it like so "cd /home/yourusername/ePSXeFolder"
[01:49] <eyemean> pelo, but windows is faster at this right?
[01:49] <super61> ok hld on
 : then "ldd ePSXe"
 : same folder
[01:49] <Pelo> eyemean,  I don't remember I haven't bothered with windows in a long time
 : back up the main application file not the folder ok
[01:49] <Pelo> eyemean,  but I don't think so , I seem to recall it was slow as hell as well
[01:49] <david_J> meanjean: sure.. But I never had any luck with ndiswrapper that's why I get a madwifi card
[01:50] <eyemean> pelo,  lol,, i haveent been away from windows to long yet, new to linux, but im loving it, hahaha
[01:50] <Pelo> eyemean, how much time did it take ?
[01:50] <super61> uncommon: it says not a dynamic ececutable
[01:50] <ermac0> you are bad
[01:50] <izanbardprince> david_J: Linux Mint has easy wifi installation
[01:50] <Peddy> Can somebody please help me? I am downloading a 4.4GB file from a torrent. The actual file is in my home drive, and it's size is 4.4GB. However, in Deluge, its only at 26% percent. Anybody know whats going on?
[01:50] <meanjean> david_J, I'll look into that too
 : thats a good start ok.. now back it up...
[01:50] <super61> uncommon: ok \
[01:51] <AlReece45> Peddy: The client probbably alloted all the space needed for the file before starting the download.
[01:51] <donogameel> can someone tell me what the last package upgrades were for Ubuntu? I just did the automatic package update and it's broken my sound
[01:51] <izanbardprince> peddy: Deluge allocates the space for the file before it gets all of it
[01:51] <Pelo> Peddy,  the bittorrent protocol preallocates the space on the hdd in order to reduce the rewrites  that is perfectly normal
 : now install upx-ucl or the beta which ever is available
[01:52] <limboshen> 谁说中文？
[01:52] <super61> uncommon: use the terminal right?
[01:52] <donogameel> does anybody know what the last package updates for Ubuntu were?
[01:52] <larson9999> man, computers get cheaper all the time.  seems you get twice the power for the money every 18 months
[01:52] <limboshen> 我是巴西人。
[01:52] <n2diy> ! ja | limboshen
[01:52] <ubotu> limboshen: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
 : i would recommend you to use synaptic though but if your comfortable with terminal that's ok
[01:52] <adamonline45> How do I restart samba?
[01:52] <limboshen> n2diy: 我不说日本文。
[01:52] <super61> uncommon: ok
[01:52] <techno-wiz> josh@tsunami:/etc$ sudo mdadm --detail --scan --verbose
[01:52] <techno-wiz> ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid0 num-devices=2 UUID=86f24815:ed310f17:359bfd8f:eb5f4943
[01:52] <techno-wiz>    devices=/dev/sdb1,/dev/sdc1
[01:52] <techno-wiz> josh@tsunami:/etc$ sudo mdadm --detail --scan --verbose > sudo /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[01:52] <techno-wiz> bash: sudo: Permission denied
[01:52] <techno-wiz> Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
[01:53] <n2diy> limboshen: ?
[01:53] <Pelo> adamonline45, sudo samba restart or sudo smb restart
[01:53] <limboshen> n2diy: no japan talk
[01:53] <limboshen> china talk
[01:53] <n2diy> limboshen: nope
[01:53] <Pelo> techno-wiz, sudo mdadm --detail --scan --verbose > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[01:53] <limboshen> n2diy: I no japan talk. I talk china.
[01:53] <larson9999> guess i'll just have to yank on this mobo.  danged dell.
[01:53] <adamonline45> Pelo: I think I found out why Samba's not working...  It doesn't seem to be isntalled... lolz
[01:53] <Pelo> techno-wiz, and don'T paste more there 3 lines to this chanenl please
 : did u find upx-ucl in synaptic? you can press "ctrl+f" and type "upx-ucl"
[01:54] <Pelo> adamonline45, duh !
[01:54] <n2diy> Anybody now the chinese page for limboshen?
[01:54] <limboshen> n2diy: you understand question?
[01:54] <super61> uncommon: yes that and the beta
[01:54] <Pelo> !cn | limboshen
[01:54] <ubotu> limboshen: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:54] <larson9999> well, i have samba installed but it quit working yesterday.  need to figure out why
[01:54] <techno-wiz> When I try that I get permission denied to the mdadm.conf file even though I can access it with gedit.
[01:54] <super61> uncommon: the beta or both?
[01:54] <limboshen> Pelo: thankyou
[01:54] <Pelo> larson9999, maybe in #samba
[01:54] <adamonline45> Pelo: hehheh, yeah... Well, I have an smb.conf and a settings manager...  Threw me off 8)
[01:55] <donogameel> can someone tell me why the package 'linux-ubuntu-modules' broke my sound when i upgraded?
 : beta would be ok
[01:55] <sexcopter> anyone familiar with the audacity 1.3.3? I can't see how to export something as ogg...
[01:55] <super61> uncommon: installing beta now
[01:55] <Pelo> techno-wiz,  sudo chmod 777 /whaever/man....
 : good
[01:55] <techno-wiz> ok thanks!
[01:55] <UBUNTEIR> !pppoe
[01:55] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:55] <sake> #Ubuntu-pl
[01:55] <larson9999> Pelo, i'm not asking for help.  haven't even looked at it yet.
[01:55] <Pelo> larson9999, sorry I'm a bit on automatic atm
 : don't close synaptic yet after install
[01:56] <Pelo> sake,  /join #ubuntu-pl
[01:56] <super61> uncommon: ok done and i didnt anything else?
[01:56] <IamReck> anyone know of a good program for recording my desktop/
[01:56] <Peddy> Thanks guys. Teh pwn.
[01:56] <Laney> I'm *really* tearing my hair out about a problem now, and nobody seems to want to reply to me anywhere :(. Is there a known problem which would prevent me from disabling the display suspend feature? Even though I've turned it off everywhere I can find it, my display still suspends after 10 minutes of idleness, which is pretty frustrating. Thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633476
[01:56] <Pelo> IamReck, look in synaptic for recordmydesktop
[01:57] <techno-wiz> Thank you Pelo, that did the trick!
[01:57] <Pelo> Laney, how about you just state the problem I can'T make heads or tales of your post
 : minimize your synaptic because you will goin to use it when you're missing a library
[01:57] <super61> uncommon: ok then...
[01:57] <Laney> Pelo: Didn't I?
 : now go back to your terminal and go to your ePSXe folder "cd /home/username/Desktop/ePSXe"
[01:58] <larson9999> Pelo, actually, i don't think i've gotten an answer in here for over a year or two now :)
[01:58] <super61> ok
[01:58] <Laney> Pelo: My display still suspends even though I've turned off every option which would cause it to.
[01:58] <Pelo> Laney, just the problem , without the complaning
 : be sure you have made a backup of your ePSXe application file...
[01:58] <Pelo> Laney, much better, I can'T helpyou much with this,  did you "search" in the forum for possible solutions ?
[01:58] <Laney> Pelo: Yes.
[01:58] <dli> can I forbidden update-grub to use UUID? better to forbidden UUID in fstab also
[01:59] <dli> right now, I rely on "chattr +i", but it's nasty
[01:59] <Laney> Pelo: Which is when I decided to make a post. I feel entitled to be a little bit frustrated here.
[01:59] <Pelo> Laney, I assume this is a laptop ?
[01:59] <Laney> Pelo: No, it's a desktop.
 : now try this command in your terminal "upx -d ePSXe" the ePSXe <---- is your application file
[01:59] <adamonline45> Where should I put applications that I compile myself?
[01:59] <Pelo> Laney, slightly less usualy but still possible that the problems is located in the bios powersaving settings, did you give those a look ?
[02:00] <tarzeau> adamonline45: somewhere that a ubuntu package won't ever put it. /opt or /usr/local
[02:00] <super61> uncommon: ok
[02:00] <tarzeau> adamonline45: or make your own deb package. or use gnu stow
[02:00] <adamonline45> tarzeau: That's what I figured... /usr/local/bin ok?
[02:00] <Laney> Pelo: I did, nothing seemed to stand out.
[02:00] <tarzeau> adamonline45: depends on the software, but yes sounds good
[02:00] <Laney> Pelo: Would some log somewhere have noted when it suspended?
[02:00] <adamonline45> (I'm not sure where the package manager puts things) :) ty!
[02:00] <tarzeau> adamonline45: some want sbin or games
[02:00] <infinitycircuit> Laney, did you check that laptop-mode-tools has dpms screen blanking disabled/is not accidentally running
[02:01] <tarzeau> adamonline45: dpkg -L pkg    tells you
[02:01] <Sier> hello.
 : now... the second part would be to "ldd ePSXe" again and read carefully the output
[02:01] <Pelo> Laney, the logs are in /var/log  ,  check for in system possibly
[02:01] <eunia> I'm trying to get wpa_supplicant to work with Intel ipw3945, but not sure how to do it
[02:01] <super61> uncommon; ok
 : does it shows a missing library?
[02:01] <Cpudan80> So I am stilling having trouble playing back this video
[02:02] <Cpudan80> It's encoded with Divx 3 low motion
[02:02] <eyemean> pelo, yeah it took a few minutes, not sure how long, do u use file roller?
[02:02] <Pelo> eunia, if no one here has advice I suggest you look for wpa and intel in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:02] <Cpudan80> VLC plays the audio - but no picture
[02:02] <david_J> eunia: You need a /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:02] <infinitycircuit> Laney, have you checked the monitors own settings as well to make sure it isn't hardwired to turn off
[02:02] <super61> uncommon: one its /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[02:02] <eunia> Pelo, thanks
[02:02] <Laney> infinitycircuit: Where would I need to check?
[02:02] <eunia> I have the wpa_supplicant
[02:02] <david_J> eunia: and read the man page
 : it says missing correct?
[02:02] <Pelo> eyemean, yes, I use fileroller  it takes at least 3 min to unpack a 350 meg RAR
[02:02] <eunia> I didn't see anything for Intel ipw3945 card
[02:02] <super61> uncommon: no
[02:02] <infinitycircuit> Laney, the config file is in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf, but now that i think about it, dpms screen blanking is disabled by default, so that shouldn't be the problem
[02:03] <Laney> infinitycircuit: It's definitely a software suspend - the monitor's LED flashes when it happens.
[02:03] <david_J> eunia: maybe go to the wpa_supplicant website... Well that is if you have the driver installed correctly...
[02:03] <super61> uncommon: nothing says missing
[02:03] <david_J> eunia: Can you see the device?
[02:03] <eunia> yeah
[02:03] <eyemean> pelo, ok thanx m8
[02:03] <infinitycircuit> Laney, if you never want to blank the screen, you should be able to comment out the line that says "Option "DPMS"" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:03] <Pelo> eyemean, mind you I'm going from memory here,  I havne't had to unpack one in a couple of weeks
[02:03] <david_J> eunia: assign it a ip address?
[02:03] <oscar_> hi all..
[02:03] <eunia> when I say lspci, I see the wireless card
[02:03] <infinitycircuit> Laney, but thats sort of a bad fix
[02:03] <synthase> can I reinstall gutsy via apt-get or aptitude?
[02:03] <manad> what is the IRC client of choice for Ubuntu? Pidgin does the trick but...meh.
 : ok.. now you can execute your epsxe by doing so "./ePSXe"
[02:03] <larson9999> i got 8 gig of ram, a mobo, and processor for $400.  seems it wasn't that long ago i dropped $3000 when i got a new pc.
[02:03] <david_J> eunia: use wpa_passphrase to set up the wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:03] <super61> uncommon: ok
[02:03] <oscar_> perhaps somebody can give a hand.. i been hours trying to setup the external monitor with twinview
[02:04] <eyemean> pelo, memory sounds correct
[02:04] <Laney> infinitycircuit: Yes it is, but it makes watching a movie or anything really irritating, so I'll take the bad fix for now.
[02:04] <oscar_> but my desktop is now in the second monitor and not in the main laptop screen
[02:04] <ctothej> I just updated the Gutsy kernel for some hardware compatibility fixes and tried to reinstall NVIDIA drivers from the nvidia site, but the driver wont load. How can I fix this?
[02:04] <super61> uncommon: ok thanks so much for your time and help
[02:04] <Sier> I just installed a server.. that does not have a video card.. :) i'm monitoring it from here.. so cool.. first time (trying ubuntu out)..
[02:04] <Pelo> !nvidia | ctothej
[02:04] <ubotu> ctothej: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
 : no problemo amigos
[02:04] <Highlander__> Is there anyway to get Pidgon Chat client to run a secure tunnel in ICQ ???
 : is it running now?
[02:05] <Laney> infinitycircuit: Do I need these laptop packages installed?
[02:05] <Pelo> Highlander__,  maybe in the pidgin channel #pidgin
[02:05] <ctothej> Pelo, i've tried all the normal sources... i updated the kernel to 2.6.23.9..
[02:05] <infinitycircuit> Laney, no you don't need them but there is no harm in keeping them
[02:05] <super61> uncommon: i have so problems with the plugins
[02:05] <shadowblade> Hello, I was here a couple days ago trying to get cupsys installed and working right, getting errors when installing it, can someone help?
[02:05] <super61> some*
[02:05] <oscar_> and/quit
[02:05] <Pelo> ctothej,  that's realy all I have for you , maybe someone else knows
[02:06] <Pelo> shadowblade,  doesn'T cupsys install by default ?
[02:06] <super61> uncommon: it says undefined symbol for plugins
[02:06] <uncommon> super61 : if you have problems with plugins there are plenty just google it or you can install the one on the synaptic you can install it by finding the word "psx" in synaptic
[02:06] <Laney> infinitycircuit: Well I was just going to try getting rid and seeing if the problem went away. I see some option called LM_AC_TERMINAL_BLANK_MINUTES=10 which looks like it could have something to do with it. CONTROL_DPMS_STANDBY is 0 though.
[02:06] <super61> uncommon: ok
[02:06] <shadowblade> Pelo: yes, but it was giving me errors when i tried to install other stuff, so I had to remove it temporarily
[02:07] <infinitycircuit> Laney, yeah if CONROL_DPMS_STANDBY is off it won't cause any problems
[02:07] <shadowblade> Pelo: its all really weird
[02:07] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, did you try the manual install of the nvidia drivers the debian way?
[02:07] <uncommon> super61 : you have to have plugins... and bios but for the bios i can't help you have to own a PS1 and dumped a bios from there...
[02:07] <tech0007> psx doesn't work for me, any ps games that i tried
[02:07] <Pelo> shadowblade, what other stuff ?
[02:07] <shadowblade> Pelo: anything...updates, programs, etc
[02:07] <uncommon> super61 : you're on your own for the bios...
[02:07] <tech0007> uncommon: can psx emulate psp games?
[02:07] <shadowblade> Pelo: everything works fine when i remove cupsys, but as soon as i try to install it again, i cant install anything else
[02:08] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: i downloaded the .run file from nvidia's site and installed from that with the new kernwl
  : i really dunno but it was design to load the PS1 bios only...
[02:08] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: it had to recompile for that kernel, and it seemed to do so just fine
[02:08] <thebagofsand> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[02:08] <Pelo> shadowblade, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu or xubuntu, which ever you are using , see if it fixes the probelm , should reinstall everything that is part fo tth default install
[02:08] <tech0007> uncommon: ok
[02:09] <super61> uncommon: its funny how they lost the source code for epsxe
[02:09]  * Pelo gives FloodBot3 a cookie
[02:09] <winter-mute> hi, amy grub experts?
[02:09] <AlReece45> Is there any problems with the splash screen and starting xorg-server?
[02:09] <whta> why does compiz lag so much for me in fullscreen apps/with lots of stuff open (even just firefox is laggy for me) when beryl ran smooth 100% of the time when i had it?
[02:09] <winter-mute> wondering how i'd get primary grub loaded, load in second instance of grub
[02:09] <whta> on a radeon x700, which would explain a bit, i think
[02:10] <Kalamansi> !yahoo messenger
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo messenger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <winter-mute> failing that, how one makes grub 'see' sata drive that it doesn't see
[02:10] <Kalamansi> hello how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu 7.10 desktop?
[02:10] <nalioth> Kalamansi: use synaptic
[02:11] <Kalamansi> nalioth ok in system right?
[02:11] <Kalamansi> ok sex
[02:11] <Kalamansi> sorry
[02:11] <Kalamansi> sec*
[02:11] <dli> Kalamansi, better to install pidgin
[02:11] <shadowblade> Pelo: got the errors when it was setting up cupsys again - hold on ill put the output on pastebin
[02:11] <winter-mute> lol greenminded
[02:12] <damian> hey guys, I have a question. I'm trying to play a DVD in ubuntu and I can't get any sound :(
[02:12] <uncommon> Kalamansi : there is pidgein and kopete they're even cooler than the official ym provided by yahoo
[02:12] <Kalamansi> dli : our policy is not to use any of those apps who have irc
[02:12] <uncommon> Kalamansi : ang asim mo pre...
[02:12] <Pelo> shadowblade,  not sure I can help but go ahead
[02:12] <Kalamansi> uncommon : irc is prohibited
[02:12] <super61> uncommon: i only found things for pcsx
[02:12] <shadowblade> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47484/
[02:12] <Kalamansi> uncommon : thats why i will remove pidgin
[02:12] <Pelo> shadowblade,  hold on
[02:12] <uncommon> Kalamansi : if you want nice multiple protocol IM use pidgin and if you want the one with WebCam support use Kopete it's even cooler
[02:12] <Kalamansi> uncommon: aw hehe
[02:12] <AndrewB> !install > HeatMzzr
[02:13] <Kalamansi> uncommon : as i was saying, irc is prohibited
[02:13] <damian> Any answers guys?
[02:13] <Kalamansi> uncommon : we will just use skyp,yahoo messenger, and msn
[02:13] <uncommon> Kalamansi : pidgin is not just for IRC that's why it's called multiple protocol it can support irc, yahoo, msn, jabber, icq, etc
[02:13] <Pelo> shadowblade, open up synaptic and reinstall dpkg
[02:13] <Pelo> shadowblade,  and gdebi
[02:13] <uncommon> Kalamansi : pidgin is not just for IRC that's why it's called multiple protocol it can support irc, yahoo, msn, jabber, icq, etc
[02:13] <Kalamansi> uncommon : okay.but how to disable irc chat?
[02:13] <dli> damian, did you check volume setting?
[02:14] <luis> does anyone know how to install the google earth bin file on my desktop? like what command do I type into terminal
[02:14] <luis> >
[02:14] <luis> ?
[02:14] <uncommon> Kalamansi : you can do so in account preferences
[02:14] <Kalamansi> uncommon: how to disable "irc" because irc is prohibited here
[02:14] <damian> Yes, and I installed all the codecs, etc...
[02:14] <adamonline45> Uh oh... Does anyone have a macbook?  I'm following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-9486a3dc17044ca74c909e1eef7ae33f0e61dfeb and don't have a mac partition to grab a color profile from... :/  My colors are so off, and I'm trying to fix it...
[02:14] <Pelo> luis,  is the bin file on your desktp ?
[02:14] <uncommon> Kalamansi : you can just click account and choose your acount that's registered to IRC .. and disabled it
[02:14] <Kalamansi> uncommon : where is "account preferences" located?
[02:14] <luis> yes, it is.
[02:14] <zcode> hi
[02:14] <onats_> kalamansi, block the 6667 port
[02:14] <luis> on my desktop.
[02:14] <Kalamansi> onats_ : how to block 6667 port?
[02:14] <neko> hi people
[02:15] <astro76> luis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[02:15] <Pelo> luis,  open a terminal    cd Desktop ,  sudo chmod 777 filename.bin ,  sudo ./filename.bin
[02:15] <uncommon> Kalamansi : when you joined the irc you have created already an account
[02:15] <Kalamansi> im from windows and trying to migrate ubuntu.we cannot afford to buy windows licenses
[02:15] <Kalamansi> uncommon : yes
[02:15] <luis> thanks dudes
[02:15] <onats_> kalamansi, taga dabaw ka bai?
[02:15] <Kalamansi> uncommon : and?
[02:15] <uncommon> Kalamansi : can't you find the "Account" in the menu bar?
[02:15] <dr_dark> hello
[02:16] <Kalamansi> onats_ : cebu
[02:16] <Pelo> !hi # dr_dark
[02:16] <uncommon> Kalamansi : it says "Buddies | Accounts | Tools | Help "
[02:16] <dr_dark> please me help, with install driver impresora canon pixma 1000
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi # dr_dark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <damian> any ideas dli?
[02:16] <Kalamansi> onats_ but been there in davao last 2003
[02:16] <onats> kalamansi, not in davao, currently in mla
[02:16] <neko> how do i make vlc mozilla plugins handle divx video on website like stage6 ?
[02:16] <Pelo> dr_dark,  go to  menu > sytem > admin > printers , and select a canon driver in the same family as your own , that should work
[02:17] <Pelo> neko, ask in #vlc
[02:17] <dli> damian, do you have sound from other applications, example, you type in a terminal: aplay /dev/urandom
[02:17] <neko> thanks
  : you can install the vlc plugin for mozilla
[02:17]  * Pelo is done , g'night folks 
[02:17] <neko> done
[02:17] <gio123> is somebody here mathematica coder?
[02:17] <neko> but it don't handle .divx files
[02:17] <dr_dark> Pelo, is not slec the impresora canom pixama 1000 here
[02:17] <neko> when look at about:plugins
[02:18] <Kalamansi> uncommon : ok i dont see any "delete or disable"
[02:18] <damian> Yes, I have sound in every application, but not with the dvd playback
[02:18] <neko> (and it just don't work)
[02:18] <uncommon> Kalamansi : What did you see when click the Accounts menu? does it shows any similar nick or name or whatever account you have created for IRC?
[02:18] <neko> wow #vlc is 3 people only room
[02:18] <damian> Ok, well I will try to find out what to do or move to Linux Mint :)
[02:18] <Kalamansi> uncommon : how to remove irc in pidgin and they not access irc for the rest of their lives
[02:19] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: i got kicked and had to go through some song and dance about some DCCExploit... back now
[02:19] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: did you reply to me in the past 10 minutes?
[02:19] <AlReece45> lulu: apparently the problem was with the splash option. After removing it the server started as expected.
[02:19] <uncommon> Kalamansi : If you're and Administrator you can just block the port 667 to 669
[02:19] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, no i did not
[02:19] <uncommon> Kalamansi : i mean 6667 - 6669
[02:19] <Kalamansi> uncommon : in pidgin theres alot of IM apps..all i want is to remove the "irc" or delete it from the menu so that they will not access irc
[02:19] <Kalamansi> uncommon : how to block 6667?
[02:20] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: ok, do you know what else I could do to have it use the new nvidia driver?
[02:20] <david_J> Kalamansi: iptables and a rule
[02:20] <MarcoRamius> Hey all, this is Yaz.  I think I had to have a registered nick or I would get kicked from the server
[02:20] <MarcoRamius> and Yaz was taken
[02:20] <MarcoRamius> :(
[02:20] <uncommon> Kalamansi : you can block it through your server's firewall or whatever is installed there for administration services
[02:20] <super61> uncommon: can you tell me where to the plugin file for pcsx?
[02:21] <_ope_> hi
[02:21] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, the reason why the restricted drivers manager failed is because it doesn't have the precompiled restricted modules for your new kernel
[02:21] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, there are two ways around this
[02:21] <MarcoRamius> May I idle in this channel?
 : have you install the pcsx along with the plugins in ubuntu using synaptic?
[02:21] <Kalamansi> uncommon: i dont have server.
[02:21] <_ope_> i have a few questions about vmware server i installed
[02:21] <super61> uncommon: yes i have
[02:21] <_ope_> im running a windows xp vm but i dont get a display
[02:21] <luis> !google earth
[02:21] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[02:21] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, first, you can compile it yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#head-4591a640f1ecb03492f49521d7c055cba2845ca1
[02:22] <tomd123> does anyone know if sage is better then mathematica?
[02:22] <david_J> tomd123: nope I hate math
 : copy all the plugins in this directory "/usr/lib/games/psemu/lib/" and paste in your ePSXe plugins directory
[02:22] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, second, you can use the debian way and use module-assistant, which is probably easier but not guaranteed to work
[02:22] <Varka> Kalamansi, you know SIM? it supports yahoo, aim, icq but no irc
[02:22] <manad> hey guys...how do I change the language post-install? I was told I could switch to french at the logon screen, but I only see English as an option (various English locales)
[02:22] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10812 except replace "nvidia-glx" with"nvidia-glx-new"
[02:22] <super61> uncoomon: ok
[02:22] <DarthShrine> Has anybody come across gedit spitting out floating point exceptions?
[02:22] <uncommon> Kalamansi : so why do you want the IRC block then?
[02:22] <`blackmk4> i only have dvds, is there a way i can burn the ubuntu iso on to a dvd?
[02:23] <tomd123> david_j: everyone has his entitlement to his or her opinion :)
[02:23] <uncommon> Kalamansi : you can have your personal firewall blocked it for you
[02:23] <Kalamansi> Varka : sudo apt-get install sim is not working
[02:23] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: ok great, i will try that.
 : besure to copy all the confi file on their designated folder
[02:23] <Kalamansi> uncommon: what apps for firewall?
[02:23] <Varka> Kalamansi, its in universe on gutsy
[02:23] <_ope_> anyone can help with vmware?
[02:24] <infinitycircuit> _ope_, what is your problem
[02:24] <david_J> _ope_: Cant afford vmware
[02:24] <infinitycircuit> _ope_, i am currently running vmware server on gutsy
[02:24] <Spzatt> howdy
[02:24] <Spzatt> im having some problems locating my old C: drive
[02:24] <Spzatt> anyone know where to find it?
[02:24] <DarthShrine> Spzatt, Try /media
[02:24] <Varka> Kalamansi, http://sim-im.org/wiki/Main_Page
[02:24] <Kalamansi> Varka : which one here? sim or sim4?
 : there are plenty of firewall gui dependi pre of what distro you're using I'm currently using firestar but if you're on KDE there's one for KDE also
[02:25] <Spzatt> Nothing here, darth.
[02:25] <Spzatt> Or i got some folders, all empty.
[02:25] <jariep1_> hi all how are you fellas
[02:25] <BruceM91> when the ubuntu upgrade is done, will the computer restart, or just shutdown?
[02:25] <_ope_> infinitycircuit: i installed windows xp and it ran threw the dos installation fine but when it rebooted and loaded the 32bit installation portion i get a black screen
[02:25] <Kalamansi> uncommon : im using ubuntu 7.10 desktop.im not sure even if its KDE or Gnome..first timer here
[02:25] <dli> Spzatt, did you mount it?
[02:25] <Varka> Kalamansi, just "sim"
[02:25] <Spzatt> Mount?
[02:25] <Kalamansi> Varka : sim or sim4?
[02:25] <Spzatt> its a static drive
[02:25] <Kalamansi> Varka : thanks
[02:25] <infinitycircuit> _ope_, i've only installed linux clients so i can't help you there, sorry
[02:26] <dli> Spzatt, mount
[02:26] <Spzatt> Err, explain that please?
 : KDE is more windows like... you have this your main menu on the lower left while gnome has this OS 9/X look which the main menu is on the upper left...
[02:27] <dli> Spzatt, in a terminal, type: mount
[02:27] <manad> quick question: how do I stop Ubuntu from making sounds from inside my motherboard (like when I press Backspace and there are no characters left to delete, it makes a BEEP sound on the motherboard speaker
[02:27] <Spzatt> yeah i got something up here
[02:27] <Spzatt> now what?
[02:27] <infinitycircuit> manad, add the line "blacklist pcspkr" to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:28] <manad> thanks
[02:28] <scion> fsk
[02:29] <Spzatt> dli
[02:29] <super61> uncommon: thank you thank you thank you!!!  I LOVE LINUX!!
[02:29] <uncommon> super61 : :D
[02:30] <super61> uncommon: i have one more question is there a mema emulator for linux?
[02:30] <Kalamansi> uncommon : how to install firewall?
[02:30] <Spzatt> lack of support imo
[02:30] <manad> infinity, it said "can't open file to write". Is this a rights issue? do I need to enter my password somewhere?
[02:30] <MarcoRamius> can i idle here?
[02:30] <Spzatt> im having some problems locating my old C: drive, anyone know how to play?
[02:30] <fantum13> hey can neone tell me if ubuntu can burn .img files
[02:30] <uncommon> super61 : gamerz like you and me should be the reason why Game Developer should support linux and make their games available to linux it's the games why most linux users are dual booting...
[02:30] <manad> i can open the blacklist file, edit it, but i can't save
[02:31] <Spzatt> im having some problems locating my old C: drive, anyone know how to find it?
[02:31] <adamonline45> uncommon: I second that
[02:31] <infinitycircuit> you need to edit it by running the command "gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[02:31] <super61> uncommon: yea i know im makeing a fre ports for games like WOW RO and others
[02:31] <fantum13> can sum1 plz tell me if ubuntu can burn .img files???
[02:31] <Varka> Kalamansi, sudo apt-get install firestarter
 : there are plenty.. you can find one trought Add/Remove in Applications menu and type mame or you can find it through synaptic and type mame
[02:31] <MarcoRamius> booting to windows to play a game is no different than turning on an xbox or a ps2
[02:31] <dli> Spzatt, use a pastebin to paste the output of "mount"
[02:31] <MarcoRamius> that's all i consider it...windows is just my gaming console
[02:31] <Spzatt> What?
[02:31] <Spzatt> tell me the command to say
[02:31] <MarcoRamius> and windows is a great gaming platform
[02:31] <dli> !paste
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <super61> uncommon: ok
[02:32] <AprilHare> my old C: - I want to use it with QEmu - does anyone know how to do that without having to image it?
[02:32] <infinitycircuit> AprilHare, you can boot into an existing windows installation with vmware player, there are guides on the forum that explain how to do it
 : you can do that in Add/Remove programs in Application and type firewall or through synaptic and type firewall or firestarter
[02:33] <manad> infinity, in the future, can I grant myself rights without using the console? Like if I'm browsing my files, and I decide I want to edit one...can't I give myself the priviileges without having to go type gksu gedit?
[02:33] <fantum13> can sum1 plz tell me if ubuntu can burn .img files???
[02:33] <Spzatt> how do i make my motherboard not to beep everytime ?
[02:33] <AprilHare> infinitycircuit, thankyou - however vmware refuses to install here
[02:33] <Varka> infinitycircuit, so you dont have to convert this existing installation into a vm ?
[02:33] <MarcoRamius> fantum13: try again using legible words
[02:33] <Kalamansi> Varka : uncommon : is it ok to use ubuntu 7.10 desktop for server?
[02:33] <manad> spzatt: type  "gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" at the terminal and add the line "blacklist pcspkr"
[02:33] <AprilHare> "VMware Player cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)"
[02:34] <AprilHare> i am using an athlon xp 1600+ processor
[02:34] <Spzatt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47487/
[02:34] <AprilHare> can anyone tell me why?
[02:34] <Varka> Kalamansi, its ok but not recommended as you have a lot of stuff running you dont need on a server, first of all the xserver
[02:34] <fantum13> MarcoRamius: Yeah alright jackass, can I use nautilus or K3B or Braesero to burn a mac image file?
[02:34] <soothsayer> AprilHare: did you download the 64bit version on accident?
[02:35] <infinitycircuit> manad, you can always use the gksu line from the run prompt reached by alt+f2
[02:35] <AprilHare> soothsayer, no - this was reported by the Add/Remove menu
[02:35] <whoDunIt> fantum13: you could change the extension to .iso
[02:35] <AprilHare> it is strange behaviour
[02:35] <infinitycircuit> manad, it is dangerous to indiscriminately give yourself root privileges and is highly discouraged
[02:35] <mrdinkles> anyone know of a good music sharing program-- ie sharazaa for linux?
[02:36] <Spzatt> where should i put it Kalamansi?
[02:36] <uncommon> guys do we need to file a love letter and court every Major and indie game developer around the world just to convince them how great the linux is for gaming.. No i don't think so.. What I think they all know how great linux is for gamin I just don't seem to get why none of them or very few them is interested.
[02:36] <manad> infinity: got it...I meant easy GUI access to granting myself privileges
[02:36] <super61> uncommon: if people used linux more then windows then devs would make more games for linux
[02:36] <MarcoRamius> there's nothing wrong with booting to windows to game
[02:36] <MarcoRamius> it's no different than turning on an xbox
[02:36] <Kalamansi> Varka : im not good in "type" thing in terminal..so is it okay to use ubuntu 7.10 desktop as server with x window?take note that this server is just a server only.no surfing/downloading/etc/ once i finish install firewall and other packet filtering and limiting bandwidth with a certain user who always use "youtube"
[02:36] <Spzatt> Kalamansi, where to add blacklist pcspkr ?
[02:37] <super61> yea but windows is so open its not even funny
[02:37] <Kalamansi> Spzatt: put a what?
[02:37] <fantum13> manad: The second you do that will be the second you irreversibly break something. The reason why linux is more secure than windows is that in windows, you're _always_ root
[02:37] <uncommon> super61 : i'm not talkin' about monopoly i'm talkin about availability and portability... if the issues here is about license linux is very flexible...
[02:37] <Spzatt> im inside the blacjlsit file
[02:37] <Spzatt> blacklist *
[02:37] <fantum13> MarcoRamius: I have linux on my Xbox, its dual-booted with OpenBSD
[02:37] <Kalamansi> Spzatt : i think im not a right guy to answer you...im a first timer...i was asking help also
[02:37] <MarcoRamius> fantum13: good for you
[02:37] <Spzatt> k
[02:37] <manad> fantum: fair enough...but I'd still have to enter my password if I had easy GUI access to higher privileges, so it's not a security risk
[02:38] <fantum13> Spzatt: you add "blacklist <thing you want to blacklist>" to the end of the file.
[02:38] <Spzatt> Well folks you guys wanted my paste to help me with locating my old C: drive , here is it : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47487/
[02:38] <fantum13> manad: any privilege escalation is a security risk.
[02:38] <AprilHare> i searched for the package with apt and it finds vmware-server but not vmware player
[02:38] <fds> test
[02:38] <super61> uncommon: i saying tho yea more people use windows but if windows never came around linux would be in control. plus linux it under GUP liseance right?
[02:38] <super61> uncommon: GPL
[02:38] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, you need to add the line "blacklist pcspkr" to etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:38] <Spzatt> infinity, didnt work.
[02:39] <fantum13> Spzatt: Your drive doesn't seem to be mounted.
[02:39] <Spzatt> How do i mount it ? >.<
[02:39] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, it will work on reboot, you can get it to work now by just typing "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr"
[02:39] <mrdinkles> Anyone know of a good music file sharing program for linux IE. shareaza
[02:39] <manad> by the way, having just finished installing Ubuntu, I checked for updates, and there's 79 updates in the Update Manager. I'm not sure what I should update or not...are they all important updates?
[02:39] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, please pastebin the result of "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:39] <fantum13> mrdinkles: try aMule, an open-source emule client
[02:39] <AprilHare> isn't there limewire for linux?
[02:39] <infinitycircuit> manad, you should let everything udpate
[02:39] <uncommon> manad : windows is monolithic ... if Maria is for Juan and Elena is for Pedro in the worl of windows it isn't like that it's like Maria and Elena is for Juan and even Juan is for Pedro even the gender doens't matter as long as it can be stick anywhere though anywhere as long as there is a hole... lolz
[02:39] <Varka> Kalamansi, just as i said, its you have all functions and abilities in the desktop package as in the serverpackage, but also a lot stuff in addition you wont need. so if that is ok for you, its also ok for you to use the desktop version as a server
[02:39] <emma> Yes there is limewire for linux
[02:39] <dli> Spzatt, "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/windows; sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows"
[02:40] <infinitycircuit> technically linux is monolithic as well
[02:40] <ctothej> infinitycircuit: "nvidia.ko failed to build" is the message i get when trying to compile it the debian way
[02:40] <uncommon> super61 : right..
[02:40] <techno-wi1> Anyone know how to edit the places menu? I want to add a mountpoint to it.
[02:40] <emma> you can probably just sudo apt-get install limewire
[02:40] <mrdinkles> k
[02:40] <shadowblade> What does it mean if a package is not verified?
[02:40] <infinitycircuit> ctothej, that's weird well sorry i can't help you at this point since i have intel graphics cards
[02:40] <dli> Spzatt, if it works, you may add it to your fstab
[02:40] <AprilHare> emma, my comment is in relation to a call for a decent music sharing package for linux
[02:40] <Spzatt> fstab?
[02:40] <nosklo> techno-wi1: open nautilus and edit places in sidebar
[02:40] <AprilHare> emma, thanks for letting me know though :)
[02:40] <emma> Oh sorry :)
[02:40] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, he is referring to /etc/fstab
[02:40] <fantum13> AprilHare: For a way better protocol, try using bittorrent with the Deluge client
[02:40] <Spzatt> ount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[02:41] <AprilHare> emma, not there
[02:41] <AprilHare> fantum13, deluge?
[02:41] <emma> I have limewire on my comp but I don't remember how I got it. Maybe I installed it myself.
[02:41] <AprilHare> torrents are normally for large files
[02:41] <timnik> techno-wi1, If you only want to add something to it, browse to what you want to add, then press ctrl+d too bookmark it and it will appear there.
[02:41] <emma> Yes deluge is a nice bittorent ap.
[02:41] <super61> well linux is still getting devoloped. it well be as good as windows soon
[02:41] <emma> It's the one I use.
[02:41] <fantum13> Spzatt: NTFS is a proprietary file system and all linux drivers for its use have been reverse-engineered. You should only use NTFS on linux with caution
[02:41] <manad> what's the torrent client of choice on linux? I used uTorrent on Windows.
[02:41] <emma> You can probably sudo apt-get install deluge
[02:41] <fantum13> AprilHare: yes, and discographies are large files ;)
[02:41] <emma> But then you have to use google to search for your torrents.
[02:41] <dli> Spzatt, pastebin the error message
[02:42] <fantum13> manad: try Deluge or Azureus
[02:42] <techno-wi1> Thanks!
[02:42] <AprilHare> fantum13, how much music do you really need? ;)
[02:42] <Spzatt> i did
[02:42] <fantum13> AprilHare: more than I could ever possibly store
[02:42] <uncommon> super61 : linux is even better than windows it's the vendor support that's lacking and other third parties...
[02:42] <whoDunIt> manad: i use transmission
[02:42] <Spzatt> Failed to mount '/dev/hdb1': Operation not supported
[02:42] <Spzatt> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[02:42] <Spzatt> Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
[02:42] <Spzatt>           clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[02:42] <Spzatt>           taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.
[02:42] <Spzatt> Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for
[02:42] <Spzatt>           your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:
[02:42] <Spzatt>             mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows -o force
[02:42] <Spzatt>     Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:
[02:42] <Spzatt> chris@chris-desktop:~$
[02:42] <Spzatt> shit
[02:42] <Spzatt> sorry
[02:42] <emma> spzatt you are flooding.
[02:42] <dli> Spzatt, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Windows
[02:42] <Spzatt> pasted the wrong info
[02:43] <uncommon> manad : i would recommend deluge and transmission but deluge is better as it is much more like uTorrent
[02:43] <fantum13> ubotu: !paste
[02:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:43] <emma> I feel so embarrassed for Spzatt now.
[02:43] <Varka> uncommon, super61, its not better or worse, its just different for a different type of users and thats good as it is
[02:44] <uncommon> Varka : ok i second that... for world peace not war... it's even better than religion
[02:44] <NullName> I need to buy a wireless router and adapter, preferably cheap that will work with xubuntu 7.10?
[02:44] <NullName> ANyone have any ideas?
[02:44] <fantum13> NullName: any router should work decently, try getting an adaptor with an Aethros chipset, those are typically good
[02:44] <super61> Varka: yea thats true. but games like us that like linux have to dual boot with windows. its a little frustating and sucks
[02:45] <dli> NullName, router have http admin interface, should be os independent
[02:45] <fantum13> super61:  I game and I haven't used windows in years
[02:45] <manad> if you're desperate for games on linux try emulation (SNES/N64/PS1/etc)
[02:45] <Varka> NullName, the router doesnt depend on what os you are using, you can concentrate on the adapter. i can give you a detailed hardwarelist, but its german if you dont mind
[02:45] <fantum13> manad: there are plenty of FOSS games or just linux games
[02:45] <manad> some of the best games ever made were for old consoles...beats playing the latest WW2 shooter
[02:45] <uncommon> Varka but right now : I can say windows has better support in gaming bill really knows how tickle young people and those young at heart is it brainwashing? I know because I was... even most of the school was...
[02:46] <manad> fantum: how many are any good though? Tux Racer isn't really a game. I can only think of Battle of Wesnoth as a decent free OSS game
[02:46] <NullName> Varka: THanks, but I don't need the german list.  Okak So I will focus on the adapter...I need to use usb...does that matter?
[02:46] <manad> and of course the Star Control 2 remake
[02:46] <fantum13> manad: try vendetta online, a cross-platform MMORPG
[02:47] <Varka> super61, uncommon, its not windows that supports the games, its the games that support windows
[02:47] <fantum13> manad: most games from ID software are on linux, as well as Neverwinter Nights and EVE online
[02:47] <dli> NullName, I know zd1211 works great, I have one
[02:47] <NullName> thanks dli!
[02:47] <dli> NullName, and cheap too
[02:47] <uncommon> Varka : yes that's what i mean ... third party support...
[02:47] <super61> uncommon: what are install-sh for? its been a bit
[02:48] <NullName> Does anyone have a list of compatible usb adapters?
[02:48] <super61> NullName: for wireless?
[02:48] <primary> Hello. What is the easiest way to transfer files between someone who has Ubuntu and someone who has Windows?
[02:49] <dli> NullName, yes, let me find the official list
[02:49] <Spzatt> back
[02:49] <NullName> thanks dli!!!!
[02:49] <uncommon> most student my country things windows is the most advance os there is.. and 90% of them knows that MSWord is the only word processor there is even anything that resembles MSWord but now word and yet they called it word ... Even those stuff that we all guys here knows who copied who what copied what... Students here in my country thinks windows has originality
[02:49] <Spzatt> well, people, explain once again how to locate my old C: drive
[02:49] <NullName> super61: yes fo wireless..a usb wireless adapter
[02:49] <spolvid> Can anyone help me download Ubuntu on a mac?
[02:49] <spolvid> I mean, install.
[02:50] <super61> NullName: what wireless adaptor are you useing?
[02:50] <Varka> NullName, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#head-603c9481d6c6288b6b674cc50132d21f6d539c53
[02:50] <dli> NullName, http://zydas.rapla.net/ , I think there's a newer version also
[02:50] <onats> uncommon, what country are you from?
[02:50] <super61> Varka beat me to it
[02:50] <NullName> super61 I want to buy one from staples.com zipcode 97405
[02:50] <super61> NullName: ok
[02:50] <AprilHare> uncommon: It is quite clear that years of Microsoft producing nearly universally adopted software has affected those who have been on the fringes of the computing community
[02:51] <dli> NullName, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices
[02:51] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, i was afk, did you get a chance to pastebin the results of "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:51] <NullName> thanks guys!!!
[02:51] <AprilHare> uncommon, out of interest, where are you?
[02:51] <spolvid> Anyone? Please?
[02:51] <dli> NullName, the fsf.org list (for rt2500), http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
[02:51] <cellofellow> How customizable is Emerald compared to GWD?
[02:51] <Kalamansi> Varka : can you give me some advice on how to detect my isp or connect my isp using ubuntu 7.10 desktop? ok, my isp gave me a login and password so that i could connect to the internet..how to setup in ubuntu an auto connect so that i will not put user/pass and dial everytime i want to connect the internet...thanks.speed 2.2 mbps adsl broadband
[02:51] <cellofellow> And can Emerald use Metacity themes?
[02:51] <infinitycircuit> spolvid, are you having a particular problem or do you not know where to start
[02:52] <Spzatt> well, people, explain once again how to locate my old C: drive
[02:52] <spolvid> I don't know where to start.
[02:52] <manad> when a programmer makes a GUI program for linux, does he have to make a separate version for each Window Manager (Gnome, KDE, XCFE)? Or do they all interpret the same libraries/code?
[02:52] <spolvid> I downloaded 7.10 amd6.
[02:52] <uncommon> Philippines... ( don't hate for that )
[02:52] <Varka> Kalamansi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:52] <ianmcorvidae> manad: primarily, the same code
[02:53] <onats> uncommon, what do you mean don't hate for that?
[02:53] <dli> Spzatt, most likely, your ntfs partition need a fsck (scandisk)
[02:53] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, did you get my request?
[02:53] <ianmcorvidae> there are libraries, but they work in all of them; it means you can have a lighter system if you keep with programs specifically 'for' your wm, but you can use anything with the right libraries
[02:53] <AprilHare> well the Phillipines isn't the only country like that
[02:53] <cellofellow> manad: well, first pick your language. C/C++, Python, Mono. Then the GUI toolkit (GTK, wx, Qt, Tk). And then optionally desktop specific libs. But they still all run together its not like they are different systems. It'll be mostly cosmetic (GTK looks odd in KDE and vice versa.)
[02:54] <Spzatt> I didnt, im afraid
[02:54] <uncommon> onats : sorry it's ( don't hate me for that ) it's just nothing more than saying in my thoughts
[02:54] <Spzatt> please join #spzatt
[02:54] <manad> Oh, are people actually using Mono for Linux projects?
[02:54] <cellofellow> manad: Tomboy and Beagle come to mind.
[02:54] <infinitycircuit> Spzatt, could pastebin the result of "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:54] <AprilHare> actually the worst place for lack of desktop diversity would be North Korea
[02:55] <Kalamansi> thanks Varka.i will read this
[02:55] <AprilHare> they're all Microsoft bound
[02:55] <uncommon> manad : mono are great and are makin' progress really fast and yet not that stable ( my opinion though you could hate me for that ) example fspot keeps on crashing...
[02:55] <Spzatt> dli, please join #spzatt
[02:55] <super61> uncommon: i found a mame eumator and need help installing it :) care to help?
[02:55] <manad> any country with no piracy checks is going to use Microsoft
[02:55] <cellofellow> AprilHare: I thought commy countries were all for GNU cause they can't afford Windows.
[02:55] <manad> cello: they pirate it
[02:55] <ctothej> If i compile my own kernel, will I need to compile new fuse modules?
[02:55] <cellofellow> ctothej: prolly
[02:55] <jake_> Hey, my sound decided to up and stop working today - I think after some updates. It still works fine in XP, though. No settings appear to have changed and I don't see anything that seems our of the ordinary. I'm using the onboard sound on an nforce 4 chipset. Any ideas?
[02:55] <kitofhawaii> cellofellow: "can't afford" and "actually paying for it" are two different things :)
[02:56] <cellofellow> makes sense, but I thought Castro liked linux.
[02:56] <aolaus> has anyone ever had a nightmare where they deleted / ?
[02:56] <AprilHare> cellofellow, this is true - but NKorea is so insular that they haven't got on board out of fear for what might be in the source code
[02:56] <uncommon> super61 : if you found it in Add/Remove it means it's ok install now and then play.... but as for the roms.. you're on your own...
[02:56] <ctothej> cellofellow: that also goes for sound and any other drivers?
[02:56] <onats> uncommon, now why would someone hate you for coming from the philippines?
[02:56] <Niriven> Anyone have any favorite linux games?
[02:56] <super61> uncommon: i didnt find one in Add/remove or the package  i got it off the internet
[02:56] <cellofellow> ctothej: unless they are "userspace" drivers, they're in the kernel.
[02:56] <cellofellow> ctothej: a handful of Xorg drivers are in that category.
[02:57] <astro76> super61, sdlmame?
[02:57] <AprilHare> uncommon, if you were in Iran for instance, we might look at you twice, but not the Phillipines. Phillipinos live in australia
[02:57] <cellofellow> Niriven: warsow, warzone2100, frozen bubble.
[02:57] <super61> astro76: hmm?
[02:57] <adamonline45> Is there a way to adjust screen brightness or gamma in KDE?
[02:57] <infinitycircuit> aolaus, i haven't had a nightmare about it, but i have done it before
[02:57] <ctothej> cellofellow: ahh ok. thanks
[02:57] <kitofhawaii> AprilHare: apparently you'll be happy to know north korea, south korea, and china are joining together to create their own linux distro "hana linux" :)
[02:57] <astro76> super61, this is the one you should be using http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=163
[02:57] <uncommon> super61 : my recommendation is... look in Add/Remove if didn't find what you're lookin for second would be "Synaptic" .. internet would be just your "Last Resort"...
[02:57] <aolaus> I thought it was real, and I freaked
[02:57]  * cellofellow just uses aptitude
[02:57] <AprilHare> kitofhawaii, oooo evil linux (TM) :D
[02:58] <worthawholebean> My resolution is doing weird things... Every time I log in, I have to use aticonfig -f --initial --resolution=0,1440x900 to reconfigure xorg.conf and then kill x-session-manager. It will then go to 1152x768 and I have to change it in displayconfig-gtk to get it to 1440x900, my desired res. It then works fine, but I have to repeat that every time I reboot. I'm using a 20" Intel iMac with an ATI Radeon x1600.
[02:58] <aolaus> then somehow the dream transitioned to zombie apocalypse
[02:58] <super61> uncommon: true...
[02:58] <chronic1> astro76: how behind is mame in linux
[02:58] <Andr00> HI
[02:58] <aolaus> anyway
[02:58] <uncommon> AprilHare " it's Filipinos" :D
[02:58] <kitofhawaii> AprilHare: which in korean...means (kinda) #1 linux. old style korean
[02:58] <astro76> chronic1, it is now an officially supported platform, vis-a-vis sdlmame http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=163
[02:58] <spolvid> infinitycurcuit, did you see my responce?
[02:58] <astro76> chronic1, so not at all
[02:58] <AprilHare> uncommon, hey feel grateful i can type at all :D
[02:58] <infinitycircuit> spolvid, no i did not
[02:58] <spolvid> Ah.
[02:58] <cellofellow> worthawholebean: is this a new thing, or always?
[02:58] <uncommon> AprilHare : hehehehe greate community "linux"...
[02:58] <spolvid> I don't know where to start, I said.
[02:58] <worthawholebean> cellofellow, always
[02:59] <super61> astro76: umm.. where can i download?
[02:59] <infinitycircuit> spolvid, do you have a ppc or intel architecture mac
[02:59] <spolvid> intel.
[02:59] <ctothej> cellofellow: will I be able to compile userspace modules after compiling the kernel and then install them as modules without recompiling the kernel?
[02:59] <astro76> super61, I linked it twice ^^ ;)
[02:59] <cellofellow> worthawholebean: ok, I was gonna suggest using the backup xorg.conf files (they worked for me.)
[02:59] <Sinpahltimus> Hi All
[02:59] <super61> lol
[02:59] <spolvid> Running 10.4
[02:59] <super61> i know
[02:59] <cellofellow> ctothej: never heard of a userspace module.
[02:59] <AprilHare> the move to 10.5 has moved me to ubuntu
[03:00] <ctothej> cellofellow: so ill have to recompile the kernel...
[03:00] <infinitycircuit> spolvid, in that case it's relatively simple
[03:00] <Sinpahltimus> Ubuntu 710 noob here with a srious problem that I can replicate on three completely diffferent computers of completely different hardware. Wondering is will to help?
[03:00] <cellofellow> ctothej: you don't necessarily have to compile the kernel to match a module, but you do have to compile modules to match the kernel (that's what the header packages are for.)
[03:00] <super61> astro76: is the psx2 eumator geting there for linux?
[03:00] <AprilHare> Sinpahltimus, tell us your tale of woe
[03:00] <ctothej> cellofellow: right... ok
[03:01] <spolvid> Yes?
[03:01] <infinitycircuit> spolvid, have you gone through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493393
[03:01] <cellofellow> ctothej: did that answer your question?
[03:01] <infinitycircuit> Sinpahltimus, what is the problem?
[03:01] <spolvid> Ah, no I have not. Thanks.
[03:01] <kitofhawaii> Sinpahltimus: yah what's breaking?
[03:01] <Sinpahltimus> web videos freeze my computers. youtube, myspace etc... web based vids all freeze my systems running U7.10
[03:01] <ctothej> cellofellow: yes thanks
[03:02] <hudyx> hello
[03:02] <AprilHare> what version of flash are you running Sinpahltimus
[03:02] <astro76> super61, dunno
[03:02] <cellofellow> Sinpahltimus: just Flash, or all videos in the browser (like Quicktime stuff)?
 : there is pcx2 for linux.. but never tried it though...
[03:02] <super61> astro76: ok
[03:02] <some_idiot> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree complains about a not-matching md5sum ... anyone else have this problem?
[03:02] <ctothej> cellofellow: i just wanted to know if I could basically download the fuse-source, compile just that package into .deb and then install
[03:02] <super61> uncommon: i guess thats where i come in :) if i get it working il let you know
[03:02] <Sinpahltimus> Well, I have tried two different things. i don't know the version. I installed it once from the synoptics PM and twice via the pop up in mozilla.
[03:02] <lookup> hey all
[03:03] <cellofellow> ctothej: sure, as long as you've got the right headers for the kernel you'll be using.
[03:03] <lookup> im having trouble getting my ipod classic to work with amarok
[03:03] <kitofhawaii> some_idiot: there's an active confirmed bug report out right now. the repo's are having a problem (adobe just released a new flash player)
[03:03] <Sinpahltimus> It seems the adobe flash player is not enough. After installing it, FF says I still need a plug in, so I have to install gnash also.
[03:03] <AprilHare> some_idiot, i discussed my issue in here earlier
[03:03] <ctothej> cellofellow: that I do, as I am compiling it as we speak
[03:03] <cellofellow> Sinpahltimus: that ain't right.
 : great.... let me know then so i could try it my box...
[03:03] <some_idiot> AprilHare: is it loged anywhere?
[03:03] <AprilHare> some_idiot, so everyone :)
[03:03] <Flannel> Sinpahltimus: don't install through firefox
[03:03] <AprilHare> erm
[03:03] <AprilHare> errrm
[03:03] <uncommon> hahahahahahahaha
[03:03] <AprilHare> not here
[03:03] <Sinpahltimus> The I restart FF again and I don't get the plug needed notification but after several seconds FF Freezes then the entire computer freezes
[03:04] <super61> uncommon: box as in xbox?
[03:04] <cellofellow> Sinpahltimus: the Adobe player is proprietary, buggy (but up to date). Gnash is FOSS, quality, but still Flash 7 compatible.
[03:04] <uncommon> super61 : nope : box as in my linux box
[03:04] <cellofellow> Sinpahltimus: and you can only use one Flash plugin at a time.
[03:04] <neko> hey someone use vlc mozilla plugins for playing stage6 video ?
[03:05] <super61> uncommon: oh
[03:05] <kitofhawaii> Sinpahltimus: where's the symbolic link "flashplugin-alternative.so" linked to? under /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[03:05] <some_idiot> okay, so what is the current best fix for this?
[03:05] <some_idiot> (flash nonfree not wokring that is)
[03:05] <Sinpahltimus> on two machines I tried via FF the thrd machine I installed the flash non-free via ubuntu package manager, mozilla still reported a missing plug in. Gnash seemed to clear that but the freeezes start.
[03:06] <Sinpahltimus> I'm at a disadvantage because I do not have access to those computers right now.
 : it's ok to use vlc plugin though i would recommend you to use MPlayer and the mplayer plugins for mozilla as it is much better in terms of streaming... because it's not streamed in buffers it also copies the file physically in your desk
[03:06] <cellofellow> Sinpahltimus: remove the adobe player (flashplugin-nonfree) and just use Gnash, and see if that helps.
[03:06] <neko> ah well
[03:06] <shadowblade> Ok, I was here a couple of days ago and earlier today (the person who was helping me today left)...I had to remove cupsys because it gave me an error when I tried to install anything else....now I need to get cupsys installed and working again - I need to get my printer set up
[03:06] <neko> i will switch back to mplayer
[03:06] <Sinpahltimus> cellofellow - I will try that.
[03:06] <neko> but i have problem with mplayer not having codecs
[03:06] <neko> that is strange
[03:07] <cellofellow> neko: I like mplayer better as a browser plugin, and it will use any codec you throw at it.
[03:07] <neko> not on mine because of some strange problem
[03:07] <cellofellow> I normally have VLC and MPlayer both.
[03:07] <neko> but i have found a fix
[03:07] <cellofellow> But only mozilla mplayer plugin.
[03:07] <uncommon> neko : you can't have both plugins for vlc/totem/mplayer installed because only one of them will work and the others will just confilicts the others like if you have vlc and totem plugins installed only totem play be used so if you want to use MPlayer's plugins remove the other except mplayer
[03:08] <AprilHare> this is probably a "are we there yet?" sort of question however: when will firefox 3 be released?
[03:08] <neko> yep i know this
[03:08] <gibham> Can some one help me get a logitech rumble pad to work on the SNES emulators? When I use SNES9express and try to configure map buttons it says no such file or directory.
[03:08] <neko> i was using mplayer plugins before
[03:08]  * NineTeen67Comet I'm still looking for the codec I can throw at mplayer/movie player/xine or vlc that will play some of my new DVD movies I got (Hairspray to name one)... I did ubuntu-restricted-extras with no avail .. 
[03:08] <cellofellow> AprilHare: probably in time for Hardy.
[03:08] <AprilHare> sweet
[03:08] <AprilHare> cellofellow, when's that? :)
[03:08] <neko> my problem with mplayer is way more strange
[03:08] <AprilHare> heh
[03:08] <Sinpahltimus> brb - on phone with soeone who has access to one of the computers, gonna have him uninstall the flash and try again.
[03:08] <cellofellow> AprilHare: next release of Ubuntu.
[03:08] <neko> as it don't found codecs folder or something like this
[03:09] <kitofhawaii> AprilHare:aprilhare: "estimated early 2008"
 : i second that ... but i'm also excited for webkit based webbrowser for linux it's good to have a lot freedom of choice...
[03:09] <NineTeen67Comet> grin .. I'm installing Alpha 1 right now (server edition) ..
[03:09] <neko> when i try playing some common divx files
[03:09] <cellofellow> neko: you try Medibuntu? You can get w32codecs and libdvdcss there.
[03:09] <shadowblade> Anyone?
[03:09] <cellofellow> !medibuntu | neko
[03:09] <ubotu> neko: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:09] <Sinpahltimus> brb gotta run for a but
[03:09] <kitofhawaii> AprilHare: aka...wikipedia is your friend for future releases :) let someone else keep an eye on when things are coming out :)
 : when i mean removed the other i mean the plugins only not the player VLC/Totem/MPlayer are good players so keep them in your box...
[03:10] <AprilHare> kitofhawaii, i thought that encyclopaedia had more uses than just for looking up star trek info :)
[03:10] <cellofellow> shadowblade: what's your issue. Sorry I missed it.
[03:10] <neko> oh wait
[03:10] <kitofhawaii> AprilHare: with as much contention there is for "being first with the latest news" i find it's fairly reliable :)
[03:10] <frost0> if i am given a generic package for linux...how would i compile and install it?
[03:11] <neko> is the w32codecs was remove recently from the main repository ?
[03:11] <uncommon> frost0 : you have to have all the development libs and tools installed....
[03:11] <astro76> neko, was never there, it's available in medibuntu
[03:11] <cellofellow> neko: if you mean recently by at the dapper release, yes.
[03:11] <astro76> neko, ah
[03:11] <jed> hi, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and its not picking up my lcd correctly. im stuck on 640 and everything is fuzzy. help? :)
[03:11] <shadowblade> cellofellow: I had to remove cupsys b/c it gave me an error whenever I tried to install anything else, now I need to get it install again
[03:11] <neko> yep
[03:11] <frost0> uncommon, if you could take a look at the package...it might be special...idk
[03:11] <neko> that what i mean
[03:11] <cellofellow> shadowblade: ok...
[03:12] <frost0> uncommon, link: http://hem.bredband.net/b400150/etswitch/etswitch-0.1.14.tar.gz
[03:12] <astro76> !medibuntu | neko
[03:12] <ubotu> neko: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:12] <shadowblade> cellofellow: cupsys gives me errors whenever i try to install it
[03:12] <shadowblade> cellofellow: forgot that part :)
[03:12] <neko> that the reason of the strangeness
[03:12] <AprilHare> jed: try installing proprietary graphics card support
 : im lookin at it now
[03:12] <frost0> uncommon, thx
[03:12] <cellofellow> shadowblade: try 'sudo aptitude purge cupsys' (and various other CUPS packages if needed) to remove configuration files.
[03:12] <neko> okey that's it
[03:13] <jed> aprilhare: i dont see that in add/remove applications
[03:13] <shadowblade> cellofellow: k done, try to install it now?
[03:13] <jed> heres the strange part: it worked somewhat fine off the livecd, just stuck on 640 on the install
[03:13] <cellofellow> shadowblade: yeah, with install instead of purge on the command line
[03:14] <cellofellow> jed: nvidia or ati?
[03:14] <AprilHare> jed, thats not there - try system-administration-restricted drivers manager
[03:14] <uncommon> frost0 : have u installed the libs and dev tools ? and u need xpm for this stuff...
[03:14] <AprilHare> you'll also need to include the restricted drivers as a installation source
[03:14] <frost0> uncommon, i guess we'll find out.
[03:14] <hudyx> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I can't get my Vista machine to boot from the LiveCD, any answers?
[03:14] <neko> talking about stream
[03:14] <frost0> uncommon, i just don't know where to begin...via the terminal
[03:14] <shadowblade> cellofellow: putting the output on pastebin....
[03:14] <neko> mplayer plugins is not seek capable ?
[03:14] <uncommon> frost0 : awkie... i'll help with that
[03:14] <cellofellow> neko: not with QuickTime. :(
[03:15] <avgeneral> [question] how can i install SSL for RubyGems? It says I don't have it installed
[03:15] <cellofellow> neko: annoying, huh?
[03:15] <neko> with nothing you mean :)
[03:15] <uncommon> frost0 : first you'll have to install the build essentials and some dev tools use synaptic...
[03:15] <neko> yes a little, a lot
[03:15] <cellofellow> neko: works with everything but Qt for me, but that was feisty haven't tried Gutsy (my Gutsy laptop is clean except for the nvidia and flash stuff.)
[03:15] <frost0> uncommon, i can't do it via terminal?
[03:15] <jed> aprilhare: "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[03:16] <frost0> uncommon, install those packages?
[03:16] <shadowblade> cellofellow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47490/
[03:16] <cellofellow> jed: what brand? ati? nvidia?
[03:16] <AprilHare> jed, well then you are beyond my help
[03:16] <jed> cello: ati mobility 7500
[03:16] <cellofellow> jed: not mine I bet
[03:16] <SpeakerMania> What do I do with a binary after I download it?
[03:16] <uncommon> frost0 : it would be good to use synaptic because there are many libs and dev tools required would you rather type them in manually?
[03:16] <jed> cello: i think its picking up the video card just fine, its the lcd thats having probs
[03:16] <cellofellow> jed: install the fglrx package from synaptic manually.
[03:16] <neko> i mean by seek not only move in part of a movie already downloaded , i mean also move in part of the stream not yet loaded
[03:16] <cellofellow> !ati | jed
[03:16] <ubotu> jed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:16] <J2k> SpeakerMania, it depends... what is that binary intended for?
[03:16] <frost0> uncommon, if possible...i have had problems with synaptic lately.
[03:16] <Flannel> frost0: You can do it from terminal, via apt-get or aptitude
[03:17] <SpeakerMania> It is a program. HandBrake.
[03:17] <cellofellow> neko: what media player can do that?
[03:17] <frost0> uncommon, its having some issues with firehol
[03:17] <frost0> uncommon, idk why...maybe something to do with gutsy..
[03:17] <jed> cello: ok, checking that out
[03:17] <J2k> SpeakerMania, you usually run programs with "./name_of_binary" from a console... double-clicking on it on X
[03:17] <Flannel> frost0: aptitude has a GUI (curses) mode, as well as a proper CLI mode.  apt-get is CLI only
[03:17] <neko> windows media player ? media player classic
[03:17] <uncommon> frost0 : did you made a fresh install or upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[03:18] <frost0> uncommon, upgrade (wince)
[03:18] <super61> uncommon: do you have AIM?
[03:18] <neko> for most of video stream the head of the file containing specification of how read the stream is necessarry
 : ym only and skype
[03:18] <cellofellow> neko: sounds weird. How can a player play something it hasn't download?
[03:18] <SpeakerMania> J2K, ah. Thanks. :)
[03:18] <Sinphaltimus> I have a friend coing on  shortly, he is on a laptop that freezes when running youtube videos, i had him uninstall the adobe player and try again, still crashes laptop. He'll be on shortly as PNZ
[03:18] <super61> uncommon
[03:18] <super61> uncommon:
[03:18] <neko> i mean not load the whole file to read only the end
[03:18] <super61> grr
[03:18] <uncommon> super61 : yes...
[03:19] <super61> uncommon: ok
[03:19] <cellofellow> shadowblade: something looks odd with libdns
[03:19] <jed> cello: my video card doesnt meet the requirements for binary drivers. they're saying that i need ati 9500+ for it, i only have a 7500
[03:19] <kitofhawaii> jed: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide i always direct people there (it's very thorough)
 : i'll try my best to help you with your prob bu i cannot gurantee things will work though...
[03:19] <shadowblade> cellofellow: ok?
[03:19] <neko> have a look of how youtube (recently) handle video seeking
[03:19] <cellofellow> jed: then you'll just have to use the free radeon driver.
[03:19] <neko> notice that not all format can handle this way of stream vido
[03:20] <cellofellow> neko: last time I checked still had to wait for the stream to load before it could be played. Maybe it's just my slow connection.
 : still there?
[03:20] <cellofellow> neko: I wouldn't expect a lot of containers to support this. Ogg, ASF maybe.
[03:20] <neko> ues
[03:21] <neko> ?
[03:21] <neko> yes
[03:21] <coshx> I'm getting this error whenever I try to install anything: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47491/  I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling openoffice, but can't get the error to go away. Any ideas?
[03:21] <cellofellow> neko: you got two kinds of multimedia formats: containers and streams. Ogg is a container, Vorbis is a stream. AVI is a container, MPEG-4 is a stream. MP3 is a stream that can work within or without a container.
[03:22] <BubblegumTate> can I somehow get a list of the users created by programs like apache and mysql etc.?
[03:22] <cellofellow> BubblegumTate: like maybe open /etc/passwd ?
[03:22] <super61> opps wrong channel
 : still interested to  compile your package?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: post your sources.list to the pastebin and give us the link..please
[03:23] <captmorgan> how can I add a third desktop in compiz?
[03:23] <frost0> uncommon, sorry phone
[03:23] <mnemonica> Hey, how would I go about enabling 3D graphics for 7.10?
[03:23] <`blackmk4> what would cause ubuntu to detect my wifi card but not see any networks?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> captmorgan: turn off effects..add desktops...turn effects back on
[03:23] <cellofellow> captmorgan: just a sec...
[03:23] <frost0> uncommon, i understand there is a risk...let's do it though..
[03:23] <infinitycircuit> `blackmk4, that probably means it's missing the firmware
[03:24] <`blackmk4> what is missing the firmware?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mnemonica: have you gone through the link on fixing !res
[03:24] <neko> thanks guys about the medibuntu trick
 : ok
[03:24] <cellofellow> captmorgan: or install compizconfig-settings-manager and it's in General -> Desktop Size.
[03:24] <shadowblade> cellofellow: so what do i do? i tried reinstalling libdns with synaptic just now, then tried installing cupsys again, still didnt work
[03:24] <neko> my mplayer work again :)
[03:24] <mnemonica> Jack_Sparrow: I don't even know what that is.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[03:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:24] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47492/
[03:24] <Iggz> Hi, still new to linux and still learning its command structure - what is the command line to change directorys in the terminal please?  I.e something directory name?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tx..checking
[03:25] <`blackmk4> cd dirname
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> lgg
[03:25] <cellofellow> shadowblade: there is more detailed stuff in the logs. Check those out (browse around /var/log to find it.)
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> cd
[03:25] <MasterShrek> good evening everyone
[03:25] <Iggz> jack-sparrow. thank you :)
 : open your terminal and type this "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[03:25] <njdube> When I run gpg -h in konsole I get Supported algorithms: Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224.  What I want to know is, how do I figure what my public key that I made through kgpg is using?
[03:25] <pindoelive> ya
[03:25] <pindoelive> buzzzzz heads
[03:26] <SOLIAM> Hi all newbie here
[03:26] <frost0> uncommon, it's going..
[03:26] <pindoelive> hello
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: dosent look bad other than that jedit stuff.. I have seen issues with people that used it before
[03:26] <pindoelive> yahoo work on ubunto
[03:27] <mnemonica> Jack_Sparrow: Didn't do anything.
[03:27] <cellofellow> shadowblade: I'm not really sure what to do though.
[03:27] <MasterShrek> pindoelive, yahoo messenger?
[03:27] <pindoelive> ya
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !dosentwork
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosentwork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork
[03:27] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:27] <MasterShrek> pindoelive, sudo apt-get install pidgin
[03:27] <pindoelive> be for u too
[03:27] <shadowblade> cellofellow: is there another way i can use a printer without cupsys?
 : lemme check what other tools are needed
[03:27] <frost0> uncommon, didn't work...this error: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:27] <frost0> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:27] <frost0>  firehol
[03:27] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: the jedit stuff should be commented out.
[03:27] <mnemonica> Thanks...
[03:27] <Sinpahltimus> SOLIAM - Welcome. Try explaining the youtube issue to folks here I'm sure someone can help you. Remember if you try to watch youtube again it will crash you and kick you from here so be careful
[03:27] <lordlimeca2> whats the easiest way to open ftp in ubuntu?  is there a way with nautilus?
[03:27] <pindoelive> no thre other chat
[03:27] <cellofellow> shadowblade: there's the antiquated ways I've never tried.
[03:27] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: what type of printer? sorry if asking something redundant. i've been washing laundry
[03:27] <Sier> Could anybody please help me out? I just formatted a HD to EXT3, init 6 the box, and fdisk is still showing it as a NTFS/HPFS.
[03:27] <poeloq> does anybody know how to get good Chinese fonts
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: yes, but you probably installed it which was the problem the other guy had
[03:28] <manad> hey guys
[03:28] <pindoelive> ]not x chat but
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: YOu might try purging oo and then trying to reload
[03:28] <uncommon> frost0 : you definitely have problems with synaptic .. can you do pastebin your errors if there are any?
[03:28] <manad> how can I have Ubuntu in french? Before installing,. I was told I'd be able to have one user have a french-language Ubuntu.
[03:28] <frost0> uncommon, certainly
[03:28] <MasterShrek> pindoelive, pidgin is a program that supports many im protocols, yahoo, aim, msn, etc
[03:28] <pindoelive> only irc works now
[03:28] <shadowblade> cellofellow: unfortunately its a dell printer (it was a gift - works really well in windows, unfortunately windows sucks at life)
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: have you installed much manually that you got off the internet?
[03:28] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: I don't think my upgrade to gutsy from feisty ever completed, which might have something to do with it? (computer overheated when it said I still had 3 hours left). I've updated all the packages I can, but that only took about 5 minutes.
[03:28] <sjovan>  lordlimec: yea.... ftp://xx.xx.xx.xx:<port> should work fine
[03:29] <SOLIAM> is there someone who knows why Ubuntu Mozilla locks up when you attempt to look at videos on youtube??
[03:29] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: what model dell?
[03:29] <cellofellow> shaowblade: Bet it works great with CUPS if you can get it working.
[03:29] <shadowblade> sorry last message @ kitofhawaii
[03:29] <pindoelive> they hack windows
[03:29] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: no, other than the issue upgrading, I've done everything through packages.
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: ugh.. yea.. that would do it..
[03:29] <sethk> cellofellow, if you have problems with cups, it's unlikely you'll be able to get it work without cups, because it's much more difficult to configure.
[03:29] <frost0> uncommon, http://pastebin.com/d5e52fa2e
[03:29] <pindoelive> ports all open
[03:29] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: any suggestions how to fix the issue, other than doing a fresh install?
[03:29] <cellofellow> sethk: not me, shadowblade.
[03:29] <pindoelive> in windows
[03:29] <pindoelive> ie
[03:29] <sethk> cellofellow, sorry, you answered him, I got confused.  :)
[03:29] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: all-in-one photo 966 - i just need the printer functionality right now, i can get scanning, etc later
[03:29] <pindoelive> whit paltalk
[03:29] <sethk> shadowblade, if you have problems with cups, it's unlikely you'll be able to get it work without cups, because it's much more difficult to configure.
[03:29] <Sinpahltimus> SOLIAM - did ya get that?
[03:30] <pindoelive> shut down
[03:30] <manad> is it just me or does kubuntu look a LOT like Windows? Is that done on purpose?
[03:30] <sethk> manad, it's just you
[03:30] <pindoelive> no sence
[03:30] <SOLIAM> no get what??
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: great choice.. but the overheating during the upgrade ...and crashing..  there is a way to -f for force things but I am way too tired to remeber it.
[03:30] <sethk> manad, there is a window manager, IceWM, that looks like windows
[03:30] <Sinpahltimus> SOLIAM - Welcome. Try explaining the youtube issue to folks here I'm sure someone can help you. Remember if you try to watch youtube again it will crash you and kick you from here so be careful
[03:30] <sethk> manad, KDE looks nothing like windows.
[03:30] <uncommon> frost0 : you have problems with firefol i can see that
[03:30] <sethk> manad, X has a wide variety of window managers, and thus look and feels.  That's its beauty.
[03:30] <manad> http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terminalinkdeth0.png  you're telling me this doesn't look almost identical to the Windows start menu?
[03:31] <sethk> manad, If you don't like KDE, there are lot's of others to try
[03:31] <cellofellow> manad: I've gotten XFCE (Xubuntu) to look exactly like Windows 98.
[03:31] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: no problem, i'll just keep playing around. it's mostly working now anyway, and packages still install.
[03:31] <sethk> manad, yes, that's what I'm saying.
[03:31] <manad> I've never used KDE, I just saw a screenshot on a Ubuntu page
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> coshx: from a term type man dpkg    it might have info you can use
[03:31] <cellofellow> Well, if you ignore the Start menu is a little different.
[03:31] <pindoelive> the newubutoo dont in the new yahoo
[03:31] <uncommon> frost0 : you have considered using firestarter when you realized you have problems with firehol?
[03:31] <coshx> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :)
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:31] <manad> wasn't criticizing or anything, I was just struck by the resemblance
[03:31] <SOLIAM> When ever i attempt to view a video my system locks.. not when i enter the site but only when i try to view the video
[03:31] <pindoelive> cant log in
[03:31] <cellofellow> manad: only cause the main panel is on the bottom and the main menu is on the bottom left. Only resemblance.
[03:31] <frost0> uncommon, never use firehol..i just use firestarter
[03:31] <pindoelive> only irc
[03:31] <mikedep333> hey, I want to move my linux partition/drive over to another different sized partition/drive. What tools should I use to do this?
[03:31] <sethk> manad, besides which, so what?  If you don't like it, there are eight other desktops available
[03:32] <Sinpahltimus> cellofellow - Saliam is here and he is having the same youtube issue, he hs already uninstalled adobe and just using gnash with same freezing.
[03:32] <mikedep333> I was thinking\ about using rsync and then updating grub
[03:32] <ice109> does anyone here use gaim latex?
[03:32] <cellofellow> :/
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mikedep333: dd  but you will need to do some serious editing for grub, fstab etc
[03:32] <T70k5> I need help with Grub
[03:32] <u_angel> finally git GNUMP3D to work!
[03:32] <Sier> this channel is too big, too many ppl, you can't even ask a question lol
[03:32] <pindoelive> compile new pagage
[03:32] <sethk> manad, but it certainly doesn't look much like my windows box.
[03:32] <manad> seth, like I said, I wasn't criticizing. I've never even used KDE.
[03:32] <pindoelive> my be
[03:32] <ice109> does anyone here use gaim-latex?
[03:32] <mikedep333> jack_sparrow: yeah I can edit grub and fstab
[03:32] <cellofellow> Sinpahltimus: I'd try installing Flash manually from the Adobe website.
[03:32] <sethk> Sier, it can be noisy.  Try #linuxhelp if you can't get anyone's attention here.
[03:32] <mikedep333> anything else I would need to edit?
[03:32] <pindoelive> too ask for captuer
[03:32] <uncommon> frost0 : try "sudo aptitude remove firehol"
[03:33] <coshx> ice109: I played around with it a couple years ago.
[03:33] <pindoelive> for yahoo
[03:33] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: that printer is listed by dell as "compatible" with linux
[03:33] <knix_> What would be the easiest way to do a automated backup of a windows folder to a Ubuntu server?
[03:33] <AlbertEin> hi!, when i try to boot ubuntu i got a black screen (after selecting the kernel on the grub screen) and it gets stuck, is there any way i could fix it? or how could i diagnostice the problem?
[03:33] <ice109> coshx can you help me get it installed
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> mikedep333: I use dd to copy partitions see the link on backing up below
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[03:33] <pindoelive> so
[03:33] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:33] <T70k5> I can't boot into Ubuntu or Vista, someone here deleted my linux partition from Windows and now I can't boot into either OS
[03:33] <mikedep333> thanks
[03:33] <ivx> hello all, i'm having a problem. I install dnsmasq and modified the config so what when i go to "intranet" it will take to a local web server, when i do dig intranet it comes up right, but then when i try to do it in firefox it does a google search for it, how can i turn that off so it sends the dns request and does it like a website
[03:33] <pindoelive> ya
[03:33] <cellofellow> kitofhawaii: shadowblade: probably means compatible with CUPS (which is also on Mac OS X).
[03:33] <Sinpahltimus> cellofellow - I was going to do that when I realized I completely forgot my linux terminal commands and could even navagate to the directory. I am going to try all that tomorrow morning after a refresher reading
[03:33] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: well by default, doesnt it still need cups?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> T70k5: boot your windows cd and fixmbr   or fdisk /mbr
[03:34] <coshx> ice109: it's probably changed since I used it. I just installed it manually. I remember it being buggy and giving up on it.
[03:34] <MasterShrek> knix_, share the windows folder from the windows machine, mount it on the ubuntu server, and create an rsync cron job to back it up how ever often you want it to
[03:34] <T70k5> just boot into command prompt?
[03:34] <cellofellow> ivx: are you just using dnsmasq locally, not serving a network?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> yes  DOS prompt
[03:34] <knix_> MasterShrek, sounds easy enough.  TY
[03:34] <MasterShrek> yup
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !fixmbr
[03:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <danny> hi can somebody help me install flock?
[03:34] <T70k5> thanks!
[03:34] <T70k5> :)
[03:35] <cellofellow> no NOT DOS prompt, UNIX shell == DOS prompt to the tenth power.
[03:35] <ivx> cellofellow, i have a server with dnsmasq and apache on my network, then 2 clients
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:35] <SOLIAM> goood night
[03:35] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: well it is uhm...i dunno, i have found some pretty miserable workarounds to print to it :)
[03:35] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: yea, their website has no linux drivers
[03:35] <super61> uncommon: i have so errors on a make file is that ok or no?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> cellofellow: what are you talking about
[03:35] <frost0> uncommon, removed it..now running previous script.
[03:35] <Sinpahltimus> SALIAM - it seems the next thing to try is to uninstall gnash - then I will need to install the flash player download - the thing I was going to do when I realized I forgot how to do it.
[03:35] <frost0> uncommon, that one worked now.
[03:35] <frost0> uncommon, thx...now what?
[03:35] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: what do you mean by miserable?
[03:35] <cellofellow> ivx: dnsmasq will automatically read the /etc/hosts file. Set the redirect in there. That's what I do.
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> cellofellow: what are you talking about
[03:36] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: right.  the engine is made by lexmark and lexmark doesn't make many consumer level print drivers
[03:36] <ivx> cellowfellow, could you explain that
[03:36] <uncommon> frost0 : i manage to compile your etswitch look  http://pastebin.com/d25c7cc0 is this a game or something?
[03:36] <Sinpahltimus> gnite all. I'll follow up tomorrow
[03:36] <cellofellow> Jack_Sparrow: just that associating the shell with DOS puts a bad taste in peoples mouths so don't.
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> cellofellow: If you READ... he will be booting Windows disk to a DOS prompt
[03:36] <frost0> uncommon, a minimizer for the a game
[03:36] <frost0> uncommon, why?
[03:37] <super61> astro76: can you help me install that one mame?
[03:37] <uncommon> frost0 : i'm curious though for what it is for havent' read the readme file yet :D
[03:37] <cellofellow> ivx: in /etc/hosts, put a line like 'XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX intranet' and restart dnsmasq.
[03:37] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: that printer might support a generic "PS" lexmark driver though. if you can get a generic PS driver to work in windows, try that in cups (there are a lot of lexmark generic drivers avail)
[03:37] <VashTSPD> ich habbe eine frage
[03:37] <cellofellow> ivx: where all the X's are your servers IP address.
[03:37] <travis> Hey guys, Somewhat new Ubuntu user here and I just set up 7.10 on my Dell E1505. I have everying working flawlessly except my wireless. It is able to scan and when I go to connect to my home wireless, I keep getting propmted over and over again for the WEP encryption key. I have entered it numerous times and I am positive that I am entering the correct key. Anyone have this problem or would know the steps to take to get it
[03:37] <travis> working?
[03:37] <VashTSPD> *habe
[03:37] <frost0> uncommon, so how do i install then :)
[03:37] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: cups doesnt even install
[03:37] <cellofellow> Jack_Sparrow: sorry.
[03:37] <mcscruff> i need some help ppl, i have installed ubuntu and everything is working, how can i stop the hardware checks on boot as my hardware wont change, i want a faster boot :)
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cellofellow: np.. just if you are going to correct someone.. you need to be right..
[03:38] <uncommon> frost0 : wait a sec lemme get the list of tools for you
[03:38] <VashTSPD> travis, where are you entering the password ?
[03:38] <dli> travis, can you live without wep? like mac filter
[03:38] <frost0> uncommon, alrighty then
[03:38] <cellofellow> Jack_Sparrow: how true.
[03:38] <travis> well, its my rents house, so I dont know if that is gunna fly
[03:38] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: well that could be a problem. i'm sorry i'm really slow at the moment so i missed the rest of the conversation
[03:38] <VashTSPD> or possibly wpa.
[03:38] <travis> I would have to talk to them
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cellofellow: thanks for helping in channel
[03:38] <travis> is something wrong with WEP?
[03:38] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: no problem
[03:38] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: so don't mind me if i ask if you could repeat the error you're getting installing cups?
[03:38] <VashTSPD> it's really easy to crack for one
[03:38] <cellofellow> kitofhawaii: here is shadowblade's errors. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47490/
[03:39] <dli> travis, just to save yourself some trouble
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> cellofellow: I am in a bit of a mood... way too tired.. didnt mean to snap at you.. goodnight people
[03:39] <danny> can somebody help me install flock (web browser) on ubuntu 7.10
[03:39] <kitofhawaii> cellowfellow: thanks :)
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !wep
[03:39] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:39] <cellofellow> danny: try getdeb.net
[03:39] <VashTSPD> dli, I don't use mac filtering, but can't people see what you're doing online if all you're doing is mac filtering ?
[03:39] <cellofellow> VashTSPD: yup
[03:39] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: hang on *reviewing the pastebin*
[03:40] <travis> Danny: Check otu this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268273
[03:40] <travis> out*
[03:40] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok
[03:40] <babaylonX> hi
[03:40] <dli> VashTSPD, if wifi can leak it, you are already doomed
[03:40] <travis> Well it really isn't my choice to use it, is there any way for me to connect to it?
[03:40] <cellofellow> ivx: did the /etc/hosts thing work?
[03:40] <VashTSPD> also, they could just see what your mac address is, change their mac to that and they're on
[03:40] <uncommon> frost0 : install the autotools, autoconf autotools-dev autogen libtool
[03:41] <dli> VashTSPD, I don't understand why people would rely on wep for their security. no, not wep, use SSL
[03:41] <VashTSPD> travis, do you use network-tools ?
[03:41] <danny> travis: this site is great!!! They have deb files!!! THANKS!!!!!
[03:41] <uncommon> frost0 : i forgot the make
[03:41] <VashTSPD> Travis, I mean network-admin
[03:41] <frost0> uncommon, so what do i type?
[03:41] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: did they have you try "sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/mime" before trying to install cups?
[03:41] <travis> not a problem danny, A quick google search of "How to install flock on 7.10" brought that up
[03:41] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: nope, ill try it now
[03:41] <remote_matrix> hi everyone
[03:41]  * cellofellow is weird. Has a WPA network and an unencrypted network for the laptop with the legacy card and no encryption support.
[03:42] <travis> no I dont use that, just the network manager in the top right corner is all I've been using
[03:42] <uncommon> frost0 : those things but if your synaptic is workin now maybe you could try it
[03:42] <VashTSPD> well, open a terminal and type sudo network-admin
[03:42] <remote_matrix> Can anyone help me, my labtop's cpu fan doesn't turn on
[03:43] <VashTSPD> sounds like a real bugger there remote_matrix
[03:43] <travis> ok, my mistake, yes I've used that
[03:43] <remote_matrix> VashTSPD well, its weird the CPU fan goes on when  turn it on but right before grub it turns off
[03:43] <VashTSPD> move to minnesota? it's cold enough here you don't need a cpu fan..
[03:43] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: with cupsys removed, that folder already exists...contains a file "pstoraster.convs"
[03:43] <remote_matrix> lol I live in toronto, canada its no difference
[03:43] <remote_matrix> but on my lap... now thats a problem
[03:43] <danny> cellofellow: thanks !!!!
[03:44] <VashTSPD> travis, what doesnt work when you try to connect ?
[03:44] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: other folders in /usr/share/cups are charmaps, charsets and locale
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> VashTSPD: It's not that cold - it's 9 degrees F right now, not even below zero yet.
[03:44] <travis> its keeps prompting me for the WEP key over and over again
[03:44] <super61> uncommon: ill work on emulator if your on again ill tell you peace everyone and thanks for the help
[03:44] <frost0> uncommon, done
[03:44] <uncommon> frost0 : done installing it? "sudo aptitude install thepackaname otherPackage name and so on delimited by space"
[03:45] <remote_matrix> I cant figure it out, the CPU fan should turn on after too much heat automatically but it doesn't and my CPU crashes often
[03:45] <uncommon> frost0: good now open terminal and go to to etswitch folder and if you havent you have to unpack it first
[03:45] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: charmaps has a bunch of .txt's in it, charsets has a bunch of files starting with iso and no extensions, locale has a bunch of folders with language codes
[03:46] <EdwardXP> Q. i was wondering if anyone in here knew anything about cpanel for ubuntu or plek?
[03:46] <Dogfishguzzler> Sometimes when I try to start audacious I get a beep and a message that says 'disabling IRQ whatever' this usually kills my internet too. Can I fix this?
[03:46] <EdwardXP> plesk
[03:46] <beerfan> how much swap is recommended with a core2 duo and 2GB of ram? 4gb?
[03:46] <uncommon> frost0: i forgot you have to install libgd2-xpm and libgd2-xpm-dev
[03:46] <EdwardXP> is it supported well in ubuntu, because i want to run my own server from home :)
[03:46] <soldats> beerfan, 2 gig is fine
[03:46] <green_tea> beerfan, you really don't need any swap, it's just tradition more than anything
[03:46] <emmet> yeah
[03:46] <uncommon> frost0: sorry so many packages can't seem to remember
[03:47] <emmet> with that much u dont relly need any swap
[03:47] <frost0> uncommon, done
[03:47] <beerfan> thanks. I'm used to systems with less ram ;-)
[03:47] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: i'm trying to review that stack check failure right now...it's a g++ error
[03:47] <frost0> uncommon, no prob...your the one doing the work :)
[03:47] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok
[03:47] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why an image created in GIMP in Linux would look darker when viewed from WinXP?  I checked the monitors with a couple full-screen colorings, and they seem to be calibrated to eachother...
[03:47] <onats> is there a channel in freenode that deals with security/network related?
[03:47] <green_tea> adamonline, is it png?
[03:48] <adamonline45> green_tea: No, it's actually .gif...
[03:48] <VashTSPD> beerfan, not much
[03:48] <VashTSPD> maybe 256 mb ?
[03:48] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: which source package do you have installed?
[03:48] <adamonline45> green_tea: I'm so bummed, my first image in GIMP and I love the app!
[03:48] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: also are you running 64 bit or 32 bit kernel?
[03:48] <sethk> beerfan, there is a myth that the amount of swap has something to do with the amount of real memory.  This has been nonsense for at least 15 years.
[03:48] <frost0> uncommon, k now what..i'm in the directory
[03:49] <frost0> uncommon, via terminal
[03:49] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: 32 bit
[03:49] <sethk> beerfan, It was true with minicomputers in 1985, but it's totally irrelevent now
[03:49] <green_tea> adamonline45, i know that windows likes to use hidden data in png files to try to match colors, but i don't think that's the case with gif
[03:49] <uncommon> frost0: now go to your etswtich folder using terminal and type this "./configure" then press enter read the result carefully and take note for the missing libs if configure successfully configured all the scripts to build it will show somthing like these if it is successful http://pastebin.com/d25c7cc0
[03:49] <emmet> sorry im new ta irc...does anyone now how i could get inta the #edubuntu room? im using xchat...
[03:49] <Dr_willis> i always put 512mb swap partion on all my hd's just in case I ever use a live cd. :) they niormnally can find/use it..
[03:49] <adamonline45> green_tea: Hmm... Oh well.  I guess I'll... Draw my stuff lighter 8) heheh
[03:49] <beerfan> sethk, I'm sure it has a lot to do with particular usage. double the ram was just a guideline
[03:50] <remote_matrix> Q. My CPU Fan doesn't turn on whatsoever, it works right before grub but doesn't turn on at all and it causes my CPU to crash any ideas?
[03:50] <soldats> emmet,  do /join #edubuntu
[03:50] <sethk> beerfan, no, it isn't just a guideline, it's utter complete nonsense
[03:50] <beerfan> future OS with the same amount of RAM might well need much more swap
[03:50] <VashTSPD> onats, there's #ns&h (network security and hacking) but that's in moo.slashnet.org
[03:50] <poison_> I have DVI double link on my graphics card, I suppose it is safe to use 18+1 single linked cable with that?
[03:50] <sethk> beerfan, if you put 32 meg in, would you make your swap 64 meg?
[03:50] <green_tea> sorry adamonline45...can't find anything online either, but i don't think it's gimp's fault
[03:50] <onats> vashtspd, ok thanks, will connect to that server..:)
[03:51] <beerfan> sethk, if my apps run out of ram, well yes
[03:51] <frost0> uncommon, exact same as yours
[03:51] <beerfan> or much more
[03:51] <soldats> adamonline45, im not sure about that problem it has never happened to me
[03:51] <frost0> uncommon, now what?
[03:51] <sethk> beerfan, there is no logical or rational basis for such an idea or rule.
[03:51] <Spzatt> howdy.
[03:51] <sethk> beerfan, or much more, that I can agree with.  :)
 : type "make"
[03:51] <Spzatt> when i try to isntall my nvidia drivers, i get this error :   ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[03:51] <Spzatt> How do i make myself admin?
[03:51] <noiesmo> Spzatt, sudo -i
[03:51] <beerfan> like I said, swap is dependant upon your particular usage
[03:51] <Dogfishguzzler> Ive got some hardcore networking questions if anybody is feeling especially helpful tonight.
[03:52] <astro76> !sudo | Spzatt
[03:52] <ubotu> Spzatt: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:52] <frost0> uncommon, done now what?
[03:52] <FluxD> !ccsm
[03:52] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:52] <adamonline45> soldats: green_tea: Alright, thanks :)  Methinks it must have something to do with Linux on a Macbook...
[03:52] <uncommon> frost0 : yowant to run and test it? or you want to install it?
[03:52] <soldats> adamonline45, it could be not sure though
[03:52] <tehlam3> hi my system wont upgrade anymore
[03:53] <tehlam3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47496/
[03:53] <tehlam3> any help appreciated
[03:53] <frost0> uncommon, install
[03:53] <tehlam3> worked before :/
[03:53] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: the problem's related to apparmor...can you check to see if you have "apparmor-profiles" (i'm assuming gutsy)
[03:53] <uncommon> frost0 : sorry there's no test configured for etswtich so your only option is to install so do this "sudo make install" and you're done
[03:53] <mico> guys need a little help here .... please ...         i've installed gutsy desktop.  after a while the network card stops comunications and only with reboot works again  it's doing this constantly. so I removed gnome-network-manager and installed wicd that is a substitute 4 the 1st one. but can't configure as a client in a w|nd0ws domain :(
[03:53] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: how exactly would i check that? sorry
[03:53] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: sudo apt-get install apparmor-profiles
[03:54] <BSG75> anyone know of a command line copy program that will show copy progress etc .. other than mc?
[03:54] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok...it looked like it installed something
[03:54] <onats> what's the op/admin channel in freenode?
[03:54] <green_tea> tehlam3, did you add any repositories or anything other than offical stuff?
[03:54] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: need the full output?
[03:54] <bulmer> BSG75-> scp shows progress
[03:54] <BSG75> bulmer: thanks
[03:54] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: naw...as long as it installed something.
[03:55] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok, try to install cupsys again?
[03:55] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: try installing cups again...and then if that doesn't work, we'll temporarily disable apparmor
[03:55] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok
[03:55] <Spzatt> im getting this error :  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[03:55] <Spzatt>          installing.
[03:55] <astro76> onats, #freenode
[03:55] <botoxx> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[03:55] <botoxx>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[03:55] <botoxx>   Resource id in failed request:  0x3000007
[03:55] <botoxx>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[03:55] <botoxx>   Current serial number in output stream:  15
[03:56] <botoxx> what can i do ?
[03:56] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: bah, errors - looks slightly different than the last time, ill put them up
[03:56] <tehlam3> green_tea: no the laptop wouldnt shutdown so i had to power off with the power button now its buggered
[03:56] <frost0> uncommon, i think its working thx for your help.
[03:56] <remote_matrix> sethk buddy are you out there?
[03:56] <MasterShrek> Spzatt, ctrl+alt+f1 log in, and do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  (run the same command when you are done with the nvidia installer except use start instead of stop)
[03:56] <onats> astro76, thanks
[03:56] <uncommon> frost0 : no problemo amigos
[03:56] <botoxx> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[03:56] <botoxx>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[03:56] <botoxx>   Resource id in failed request:  0x3000007
[03:56] <botoxx>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[03:56] <botoxx>   Current serial number in output stream:  15
[03:56] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: reload the apparmor profiles and try again "sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload"
[03:56] <botoxx> please help me
[03:56] <green_tea> tehlam3, it sounds like you caught apt in the middle of a configuration process, which is making it mess up now
[03:56] <green_tea> try 'sudo aptitude purge libpam-runtime'
[03:57] <green_tea> then reinstall it
[03:57] <botoxx> did ypu mean me ?
[03:57] <green_tea> whoops, 'sudo aptitude --purge remove libpam-runtime
[03:57] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: same errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47497/
[03:57] <botoxx> green_tea you meen me ?
[03:57] <astro76> !paste | botoxx
[03:57] <ubotu> botoxx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:58] <green_tea> sorry botoxx, no
[03:58] <botoxx> sry
[03:58] <green_tea> botoxx, what are you doing that gives you that error?
[03:58] <botoxx> yes thats the error
[03:58] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: ok...try "sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor kill" and try once more
[03:58] <dts> what's a good program to batch resize a bunch of pictures i got of my digital camera
[03:58] <VashTSPD> image
[03:58] <VashTSPD> no
[03:58] <VashTSPD> 'convert'
[03:59] <botoxx> when i start a game or something the that happened
[03:59] <VashTSPD> it's part of a suit.
[03:59] <dts> graphically
[03:59] <VashTSPD> oh
[03:59] <nuvan> nwn question.  I've downloaded the installer from http://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/, i've chmod'd it +x, and when I run it, it says Verifying Archive Integrity - All Good, then says Uncompressing NWN 1.29 for linux, then nothing happens, I just go back to the prompt
[03:59] <dts> i use imagemagic myself
[03:59] <dts> but this is for my "linux challenged" room mate
[03:59] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: same - it says its reloading the apparmor profiles in the output still
[03:59] <dts> * magick
[03:59] <green_tea> botoxx, are you running wine?
[03:59] <VashTSPD> imagemagick ftw
[03:59] <botoxx> yes geen tea
[03:59] <VashTSPD> gimp ?
[04:00] <VashTSPD> it's so big for just resizing though
[04:00] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: well...ok first "sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor kill" then "sudo update-rc.d -f apparmor remove"
[04:00] <frost0> uncommon, i installed vmware a while back and gave a partition to it....i decided i want my space back...how would i go about doing that?
[04:00] <abc> need a lil help
[04:00] <astro76> VashTSPD, maybe but it's installed by default
[04:00] <MasterShrek> frost0, find where the virtual machine's hard drive was and delete it
[04:00] <green_tea> botoxx, i'm guessing it's a wine issue...what game are you trying?
[04:01] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: to put it back afterwards "sudo update-rc.d apparmor start 37 S ."
[04:01] <MasterShrek> abc, whats up?
[04:01] <frost0> MasterShrek, via fdisk or somethign?
[04:01] <botoxx> Guild Wars
[04:01] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: (after trying to install cups again that is)
[04:01] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: so do i leave it off for now?
[04:01] <HeatMzzr> holy crap,. hello all, man this wasnt too bad at all to install,
[04:01] <abc> my update manager is giving me an error
[04:01] <remote_matrix> Can someone please help me, my CPU fan doesn't turn on
[04:01] <Iggz> Don't know if anyone can help with this "odd@ problem. I have two sound cards on my PC - one onboard and one added card. For some reason, and with no reason, under ubuntu - the sound source will switch between this cards :/. An odd problem. Under windows if this happened - not that it did - i would simply uninstall /disable the onboard sound card. Is there a way of doing this under ubuntu?
[04:01] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: sry, didnt see that most recent message
[04:01] <MasterShrek> frost0, no, just find the file, you shold be able to find out where vmware is storing them in vmware's preferences or something
[04:01] <green_tea> botoxx, i know that game works (i have it), so i have no idea what that error means, sorry
[04:02] <astro76> Iggz, see if you can disable it in the BIOS
[04:02] <uncommon> frost0 : sorry can't help u with that as I haven't been using vmware for quite a while now... but i believe there should be a tool for that included
[04:02] <quik__> hey folks
[04:02] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: yah leave it off for now, so we can see for sure if it's apparmor that's blocking it (possible you're getting a cups that's not conforming to the apparmor profiles)
[04:02] <MasterShrek> Iggz, find otu exactly what kind of card it is, and figure out which kernel module is being used for it, then do sudo rmmod <module>
[04:02] <quik__> I want to limit what my torrent box can download during the day because I'm using australian broadband!
[04:02] <Iggz> astro76. Thanks - you know I didn't think of that lol.
[04:03] <uncommon> wow neverwinter....
[04:03] <Spzatt> i need help with installing my nvidia, anyone?
[04:03] <frost0> MasterShrek, i deleted the application..yet the space is still there
[04:03] <abc> i need help my update manager is giving me an error
[04:03] <quik__> Is there any way to limit a ethernet devices' incoming rate on a schedule?
[04:03] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok, got the same thing and it still reloaded the apparmor profiles
[04:03] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: this is really weird
[04:03] <jc> No longer a sudoer,  How to recover?
[04:03] <beerfan> quik__: just use a torrent client that has scheduling features
[04:04] <Iggz> mastershrek. Interesting. How would I find out which kernal was responsible?. Sorry, still very new around here
[04:04] <quik__> beerfan: no go. I'm using torrentflux so that I have a web interface
[04:04] <jc> Authentication failure
[04:04] <jc> ?
[04:04] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: yah...fun, isn't it :) i dunno it looks like apparmor's the problem. it's not liking the cupsys package you're getting off the repo
[04:04] <beerfan> quik__: then write a script...
[04:04] <nuvan> jc, logon to root and use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers?
[04:04] <MasterShrek> Iggz, well, lsmod will give you a list of currently loaded modules, lsmod | grep snd      should narrow it down quite a bit
[04:05] <jc> nuvan: How do I logon as root?
[04:05] <quik__> beerfan: how would one go about it?
[04:05] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: so...any more ideas?
[04:05] <Iggz> MasterShrek. Thank you :-0
[04:05] <Iggz> * ;-)
[04:05] <beerfan> quik__: no idea. I'd just find a client which does what I need without the extra work.
[04:05] <EdBoy> hi, ubuntu noob here
[04:05] <jc> nuvan: Some sort of "safe mode"  ?
[04:05] <EdBoy> how do I get synaptic to update its version listing?
[04:06] <frost0> EdBoy, whats up?
[04:06] <quik__> beerfan: you have a pretty defined opinion considering your knowledge is limited
[04:06] <jc> Reboot into a "safemode"?  or something of the sort?
[04:06] <nuvan> jc, easiest probably to hit CTRL+ALT+F1, then just give root as the username.  password should be the password set on your first user account
[04:06] <EdBoy> yeah
[04:06] <MasterShrek> EdBoy, hit the update button
[04:06] <EdBoy> it says pidgin is still 2.2.1, but it's not
[04:06] <MasterShrek> EdBoy, what is it?
[04:06] <MasterShrek> !info pidgin
[04:06] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[04:07] <EdBoy> yeah
[04:07] <EdBoy> it's at 2.3.1
[04:07] <abc> my update manager is giving me an error, can someone help?
[04:07] <EdBoy> so they just never updated it?
[04:07] <beerfan> quik__: it's not "exactly" no idea. If bittornado (the torrentflux back-end) supports bw limiting then you'd write a cron job which kills the process and restarts it with different options
[04:07] <MasterShrek> on pidgins website it is
[04:07] <MasterShrek> they just havent built a new ubuntu package of it i spose
[04:07] <beerfan> quik__: but that's just a guess
[04:07] <MasterShrek> you could build one yourself if you wanted to, but its probably not that big of a deal
[04:07] <EdBoy> I don't know how to build it
[04:07] <EdBoy> that's the issue
[04:07] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: good idea to try the 1.4 version of cups or not?
[04:08] <MasterShrek> its probably more hassle than what its worth, if it works now why try to break it?
[04:08] <EdBoy> well
[04:08] <EdBoy> it freezes all the time
[04:08] <abc> how do i open terminal as root?
[04:08] <EdBoy> abc: open the root terminal?
[04:08] <Dr_willis> abc, sudo -s
[04:08] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: eh you can...which linux headers do you have installed btw?
[04:08] <EdBoy> that too I suppose
[04:08] <Dr_willis> changes to root..
[04:08] <ozzloy> how do i find out what's using my sound card?
[04:08] <mannytu> !root
[04:08] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:08] <nuvan> anyone here know why the graphical NWN installer from http://icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/ would appear to work, not give any error messages, but completely fail to do anything?
[04:08] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: sorry dunno what you mean by that :)
[04:09] <MasterShrek> EdBoy, well first you need the build-essential package, so oyu have compilers for it
[04:09] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: open synaptic do a search for "linux-headers"
[04:09]  * uncommon is away: be right back
[04:09] <EdBoy> masterloki: got it
[04:09] <EdBoy> er
[04:09] <MasterShrek> EdBoy, also get the source package for pidgin off their website, and remove the piddign package from your install: sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[04:09] <abc> thank you all
[04:09] <EdBoy> MasterShrek:
[04:09] <EdBoy> got it
[04:09] <EdBoy> okay
[04:09] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: i noticed it was throwing back "i386" in your pastebin...so i'm curious
[04:10] <Iggz> Can i jsut say that "Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password." is the most zen stament I have ever heard. is ubotu a ZEN bot?
[04:10] <EdBoy> grag
[04:10] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: 2.6.22-14.46   ?that right
[04:10] <EdBoy> I don't even get what it needs from my ubuntu disk... sigh
[04:10] <nettow0822>  how do you find out if your nickname is currently used and how do you set the password? This is for freenode.
[04:10] <Iggz> Sorry, couldn't resist
[04:10]  * Iggz leave the room quickly, Yodo in tow
[04:10] <MasterShrek> EdBoy, after you decompress the source tarball open a terminal, cd to the folder and run: ./configure
[04:11] <ozzloy> amarok can't play audio right now, xine says device is busy.  how do i find out what's controlling my sound device?
[04:11] <ozzloy> how do i free up the device?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nettow0822: try to register the one you are using.. it will tell you if it is reg'd
[04:11] <frost0> MasterShrek, how do i delete something via terminal?
[04:11] <IdleOne> nettow0822: #freenode
[04:11] <EdBoy> MasterShrek: got it
[04:11] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: well, there should be a few other packages (you have the "generic" or "386" installed?
[04:11] <godemonite> Does Anyone know to make it so it doesnt show the outline of the window like 50 times when it goes down?
[04:11] <MasterShrek> frost0, rm <filename>
[04:11] <beerfan> frost0: man rm
[04:11] <Invisible_Ubuntu> nettow0822: /msg nickserv register pass email@address.com
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound | ozzloy
[04:11] <ubotu> ozzloy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:11] <nettow0822> what command to register? or where to find the command?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[04:11] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[04:12] <godemonite> when you minimize it, i mean
[04:12] <MasterShrek> nettow0822, /msg nickserv help
[04:12] <danny> Hi, can somebody help me get Awn to start up at login
[04:12] <astro76> !startup | danny
[04:12] <ubotu> danny: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[04:12] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: umm....generic i think? the installed one has a -gener at the end
[04:12] <beerfan> awn = always winter nights?
[04:12] <Gluesticky> This Live CD is taking ages and ages to install
[04:12] <MasterShrek> awn = avant window navigator
[04:12] <Longfellow110> Does anyone know what "4x Support" means in terms of wireless networking?
[04:12] <sjovan> lol @  beerfan
[04:12] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: that's good. interesting
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Gluesticky: so whats the big deal.. you only need to do it once..
[04:14] <brandon_> i installed a new, powerful pci-express graphics card, and now the wifi card next to it has disappeared, as far as ubuntu is concerned. with the other graphics cards, it worked fine
[04:14] <ZeNIX> someone tell me how to install my nvidia driver.
[04:14] <soldats> !nvidia
[04:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <godemonite> Is there anyone thats not to busy to answer something?
[04:14] <Invisible_Ubuntu> I was noticing, VLAN detects the Libdvd and wincodecs that i used synap manager to install but kaffine doesn't,  is there special way do I have to uninstall kaffiane then reinstall it via synap manager to get it to see the "codecs" per say?
[04:14] <Ashfire908> ZeNIX, restricted manager
[04:14] <soldats> !ask
[04:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:14] <Longfellow110> What is your queston?
[04:15] <Ashfire908> lol
[04:15] <godemonite> I tried :(
[04:15] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: honestly it's hard to tell. i'm not really sure why cupsys is not installed since it's normally in by default. last ditch effort, confirm in synaptic cupsys is not there
[04:15] <Longfellow110> what is it?
[04:15] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: or rather not installed
[04:15] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: that's rather bizarre to me
[04:15] <godemonite> Is there a way to make it so the outline of my window doesnt show like 50 times when i minimize it?
[04:15] <soldats> godemonite, turn off desktop effects
[04:15] <Longfellow110> What level do you have desktop effects at?
[04:15] <MasterShrek> EdBoy, after ./configure, do: make  then: sudo make install
[04:16] <ozzloy> ok, i'll restate my problem.  the sound was working just fine 2 minutes ago and has been working fine for a while.  just right now amarok says the card is locked up.  how do i fix that?
[04:16] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: well i had to remove it because when i tried to install anything else it was giving an error (i remember a 127 in there somewhere)
[04:16] <ZeNIX> Where do i find the Kmenu?
[04:16] <soldats> ozzloy, restart alsa
[04:16] <godemonite> soldats, it was off to begin with
[04:16] <RantingHuman> Hello, does anyone have any recommendations for a good mp3 tag editor? I'm looking for one that can work on a bunch of files and take the track number, artist and song name from the file name to use as metadata
[04:16] <Ashfire908> godemonite, this with desktop effects on?
[04:16] <ZeNIX> !kmenu
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <ZeNIX> Where do i find the Kmenu?
[04:16] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: so you removed it to install something else?
[04:16] <soldats> godemonite, it may be a lag issue?
[04:16] <soothsayer> RantingHuman: easytag
[04:16] <beerfan> RantingHuman: try ex falso
[04:16] <Ashfire908> godemonite, what exactly is it doing when you minimize
[04:17] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: i feel like i'm behind a lot of info :)
[04:17] <godemonite> soldats, hmmmm could it rather be my graphics card?
[04:17] <VashTSPD> sometimes my entire system freezes, video, mouse movement, text on screen. it only freezes for a second though, but it does it about every 3 seconds when it's acting up.
[04:17] <RantingHuman> beerfan, alright, will do. Thanks
[04:17] <ZeNIX> Where do i find the Kmenu?
[04:17] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: yea, it was giving an error when i tried to install anything (like nothing printer related)
[04:17] <RantingHuman> soothsayer, ok, will try that too :)
[04:17] <godemonite> Ashfire908, it shows the outline while it goes down, know what i mean?
[04:17] <VashTSPD> I think's a crappy processor though, anyone else had this problem ?
[04:17] <ZeNIX> Where do i find the Kmenu or system settings?
[04:17] <Longfellow110> what kind of system are you running?
[04:17] <ZeNIX> ubuntu 7.10
[04:17] <Ashfire908> godemonite, sorta
[04:17] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: System setting is at the Top Left and it says Sytem
[04:18] <VashTSPD> who ya talking to Longfellow110
[04:18] <soldats> godemonite, yes it does that as defualt in gnome but iof turning it off doesnt work im not sure id say lag. not sure if its a graphics card issue
[04:18] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: btw, cupsys is definitely gone according to synaptic
[04:18] <Ashfire908> godemonite, but not really
[04:18] <ZeNIX> system Settings KMenu › System Settings," WWhere is this?
[04:18] <Longfellow110> yeah i just realized that lol
[04:18] <ozzloy> soldats: thanks!  whatever was locking up the sound card died independently
[04:18] <VashTSPD> hp pavillion dv4000, 1 GB ram 100 GB HDD. ~1.74 Ghz processor
[04:18] <hanzou> How do I get doxygen to list functions & classes & variables? By default it seems to only color-code source files.
[04:18] <Invisible_Ubuntu> soldats: I would say its a video lag issue or to slow a proc
[04:18] <Ashfire908> godemonite, when you minimize... oh
[04:18] <godemonite> soldats, hmmm
[04:19] <soldats> Invisible_Ubuntu, yea thats what i thoght as well
[04:19] <HoboBen> Hello all: Swiftfox just upgraded through synaptic updates - I didn't realise it was upgrading to version 3 beta (not ready); Does anyone else have a problem with the "File Edit View" bar breaking so that I can't use it?
[04:19] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: There is no KMenu this is Gnome X manager not KDE
[04:19] <ZeNIX> system Settings KMenu › System Settings," WWhere is this?
[04:19] <Longfellow110> initially i was talking to godemonite but then i saw ZeNix's question lol
[04:19] <Ashfire908> godemonite, that? the minimize effect? how long is it taking
[04:19] <ZeNIX> on the nvidia page
[04:19] <ZeNIX> it says KMenu > System Settings
[04:19] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: up the creek without a paddle definitely :)
[04:19] <ZeNIX> ubuntu help for nvidia
[04:19] <ZeNIX> where is this ?
[04:19] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: That is for KDE your running ubuntu so its Gno,e
[04:19] <Ashfire908> !nvidia | ZeNIX
[04:19] <ubotu> ZeNIX: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:19] <godemonite> Ashfire908, yea, but the effect is turned off and it still does it
[04:19] <soldats> ZeNIX, kmenu is settings
[04:19] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: :)
[04:20] <htaccess_> i am attempting to play dvds on gutsy, following https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd, says to install libdvdplay0 but its not there (synaptic, apt-get, aptitude) i have multiverse and universe enabled, where can i get libdvdplay0 for 7.10??
[04:20] <Ashfire908> erm
[04:20] <ZeNIX> Where do i find it!?!? god damnit
[04:20] <Ashfire908> ZeNIX, erm
[04:20] <ZeNIX> sorry, people just aint giving me a answer.
[04:20] <soldats> !nvidia | ZeNIX
[04:20] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: Plz listen to me.. To Enable NVidia restricted driver to got the little tab at the top Left that says "System" next to "Places"
[04:20] <ubotu> ZeNIX: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <ZeNIX> everyone tells me to go to that dumb page
[04:20] <godemonite> Ashfire908 & soldats, sorry, i know im not being that clear
[04:20] <ZeNIX> i am on it!
[04:20] <Ashfire908> godemonite, how long is it taking
[04:20] <ZeNIX> i am on the page you guys are spamming to me!
[04:20] <beerfan> htaccess_: you need the medibuntu repos
[04:21] <soldats> godemonite, is it being a problem for you
[04:21] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: then to to "Administration" and then "Restricted Drivers"
[04:21] <Ashfire908> HEY !nvidia is NOT what ZeNIX is looking for!
[04:21] <mcrandello> Hi there's a guy in ##linux who has this problem-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500229
[04:21] <htaccess_> if i need that repo why is it not in the help page?
[04:21] <ZeNIX> The software source for the package
[04:21] <ZeNIX>    nvidia-glx-new
[04:21] <ZeNIX>  is not enabled.
[04:21] <ZeNIX> :/
[04:21] <godemonite> Assfire908, it doesnt take that long, just kinda lags a little
[04:21] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: Where did you get that from? Did you just try what I told you?
[04:21] <Ashfire908> ZeNIX, erable the restricted repository
[04:22] <mcrandello> I'm trying to figure out which dpkg command will list the missing files they're talking about in that forum post so we can get his apt fixed
[04:22] <ZeNIX> Oh god, speak english, not the linux-geek language. :D
[04:22] <godemonite> soldats, somewhat? Lol, it just makes me think that my computer is a piece of shit more than it already is :(
[04:22] <ZeNIX> Just tell me what to do. :(
[04:22] <Ashfire908> godemonite, it's a default effect that goes without dekstop effects enabled
[04:22] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX:  if you can't understand the "Simple English" I just typed LInux is not for you
[04:22] <tomd123> ZeNIX: well in that case, I would change your name...
[04:22] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: I ALREADY DID FOR A CHIMP TO FOLLOW
[04:22] <ZeNIX> i cant see, to many is spamming
[04:23] <ZeNIX> join #spzatt
[04:23] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: not typing it again I suggest you learn to log the chat and go back and find what I typed
[04:23] <ZeNIX> i did see
[04:23] <ZeNIX> i did just try what you told me
[04:23] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: im trying the 1.3.4 cups, looked like it was trying to install 1.3.2
[04:24] <godemonite> Ashfire908, ahhhh. Und there is no way to turn that off?
[04:24] <evfan42> I was answered this once, but it didn't keep the settings when I rebooted my computer, when I have all the effects on with my nvidia geforce ti 4200, I cant see the top menu bar with the minimize and exit buttons on it, and my terminal is completely white
[04:24] <evfan42> whats the code that'll fix that?
[04:24] <Ashfire908> godemonite, idk.
[04:24] <Invisible_Ubuntu> Wow, I remember why I stopped using Linux 1 year ago.. to many people new that are to lazy to learn to use anything
[04:24] <soldats> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:24] <Ashfire908> ZeNIX, one sec...
[04:24] <ZeNIX> How can we learn, when no one is teaching us ?
[04:24] <soldats> ZeNIX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:25] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: go for it :)
[04:25] <ZeNIX> thanks soldats
[04:25] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: I said it 3 times for you, that is teaching and btw I've only had my ubuntu install up 2 days and i have Nvidia drivers, DvD, Cds ripping, DVD Burning and alot more with no help
[04:25] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: so i configured, then make, then make install....cant remember what to do next
[04:25] <ZeNIX> Soldats, i get this error : E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[04:25] <Invisible_Ubuntu> ZeNIX: just fumbling around and seeing whats there.. try it something might learn a thing or two :)
[04:25] <soldats> a few minutes on google does wonders
[04:25] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: thanks for all your help btw
[04:26] <soldats> ZeNIX, its an older package but googel about it or go the ubuntu forums
[04:26] <VashTSPD> Invisible_Ubuntu seems like a dick
[04:26] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: which package did you install?
[04:26] <godemonite> Ashfire908, alright, thanks for your help though :D
[04:26] <godemonite> soldats, you too! :D
[04:26] <ZeNIX> soldats, do i have to download a new package?
[04:26] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: 1.3.4
[04:26] <GionnyBoss> !ops | Anastasia_- sends ads on join
[04:26] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: did you install the client?
[04:26] <VashTSPD> welcome back onats
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[04:26] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: um...
[04:26] <soldats> VashTSPD, no he just realizes that too many people dont care to learn for themselfes and just want help "NOW"
[04:26] <prnl71> hey all
[04:26] <onats> hey vashtspd, brb
[04:27] <shadowblade> i grabbed the 1.3.4 tar from their website
[04:27] <Invisible_Ubuntu> VashTSPD: When you say something 4 times and the guy ignores you and calls everyone else rude for not helping him.. Your right I am a dick as you say
[04:27] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: can i have a link?
[04:27] <soldats> ZeNIX, i believe so go to applications > adminiistration > restricted drivers
[04:27] <frost0> MasterShrek, thx for your help...it worked
[04:27] <prnl71> i am a newbie the this ppc stuff where id the best site to get apps
[04:27] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: it's a workaround...you know
[04:27] <onats> ok done
[04:27] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: http://www.cups.org/software.php?VERSION=1.4svn-r7112&FILE=cups/1.3.4/cups-1.3.4-source.tar.gz
[04:27] <broken> What do I need in ubuntu to make sure I can play music online?
[04:27] <soldats> broken, stream music?
[04:27] <broken> yea
[04:28] <broken> Like listen to music online.
[04:28] <Invisible_Ubuntu> broken: Do you mean you want to stream to someone, or bring in a stream from somewhere?
[04:28] <MasterShrek> broken, streamtuner
[04:28] <broken> Because it doesn't work, invalid format or..
[04:28] <broken> I think i need the plugins..
[04:28] <Ashfire908> broken, install from add/remove programs "ubuntu restricted extras" if you are on ubuntu
[04:28] <onats> can anyone help me, im always getting this event on port 1234 from a particular ip, and the service is called subseven
[04:28] <Chumby> can someone help me with an install problem?
[04:28] <broken> that will pull in what i need to play music, mp3s, wma, aac?
[04:28] <onats> its seems to be malicious...?
[04:29]  * uncommon i wish there is a linux application that will fix a broken ( hearted ) user
[04:29] <MasterShrek> onats, subseven is a trojan
[04:29] <htaccess_> well if there are any canonical / ubuntu defvs here, the official documentation sufggests installing libdvdplay0 to get dvd playback working, dvd playback is a very common requirement for many users, libdvdplay0 doenst exist in gutsy (http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libdvdplay&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all) i would say getting this documentation fixed would be a realy good idea
[04:29] <Ashfire908> broken you will need to select all available applications from the show drop-down menu at the top right
[04:29] <Invisible_Ubuntu> I have a series of RARs, I installed the Rar package and trying to extract them at the command line.. but can't quit remember how to do it.. someone help me with this?
[04:29] <onats> mastershrek, yeah.. thats what i read.. how do i stop this bugger?
[04:29] <Ashfire908> broken, yes
[04:29] <MasterShrek> onats, but i doubt its going to affect your linux machine
[04:29] <broken> ok thanks i'll give that a try.
[04:29] <soldats> Invisible_Ubuntu, what do you mean
[04:29]  * htaccess_ goes off to waste time googling for  libdvdplay0 and medibuntu
[04:29] <MasterShrek> onats, give me the ip =P ill fix him up
[04:30] <MasterShrek> j/k =P
[04:30] <musashi> can anyone help me mount an encrypted external drive that was set up under a previous install. I installed cryptsetup again but when connected it asks for a password and then does nothing.
[04:30] <Invisible_Ubuntu> in in terminal, and I want to extract 40 rar files.. all named .rar and r01- say r40
[04:30] <Ashfire908> broken: if you don't want to pull in java, flash and other stuff as well...
[04:30] <onats> mastershrek, 70.17.99.90
[04:30] <Chumby> I have installed unbuntu with the alternative disk - seems to have gone OK, but on restart the graphics does not work
[04:30] <Ashfire908> broken install all the packages in there starting with GStreamer.
[04:30] <Chumby> any help/ideas?
[04:30] <onats> mastershrek, just want to make sure i'm secure.. but the thing is, this ip keeps on popping back. i wonder how its able to track back to me...
[04:31] <Invisible_Ubuntu> soldats: I went to synap manager and searched for "Rar" and installed Rar package which I think is a command line unrar'er
[04:31] <soldats> Invisible_Ubuntu, yes it is it also works as a gui
[04:31] <soldats> Invisible_Ubuntu, as in right click
[04:31] <Invisible_Ubuntu> soldats: so I go to the dir and type rar help and for the life of me I don't see what options/command to use
[04:31] <soothsayer> onats: your ubuntu machine is not vulnerable to a windows trojan
[04:31] <Ashfire908> broken: ok?
[04:31] <MasterShrek> onats, are you behind a router or firewall?
[04:32] <hanzou> Finally found what I was looking for w/ doxygen, set EXTRACT_ALL = YES
[04:32] <broken> Ashfire908, great thanks :)
[04:32] <onats> soothsayer, i have windows on dual boot, and just preparing in case someone here uses windows.
[04:32] <soldats> Invisible_Ubuntu, rar -e is for extract
[04:32] <onats> mastershrek, yes, behind a router. firewall not yet...
[04:32] <Invisible_Ubuntu> soldats: well I'll be damned I didn't see that "Extract Here" last night.. but it was 3am :P
[04:32] <jackaesop> Chumby: does it start to a terminal?
[04:32] <onats> mastershrek,  the firewall i'm using is on the PCs, firestarter
[04:32] <MasterShrek> onats, just make sure you dont have any ports forwarded through your router
[04:32] <Ashfire908> broken: did you install the restrited extras or just the gstreamer packages?
[04:32] <Invisible_Ubuntu> soldats: Thnx, sorry to bother you
[04:32] <soldats> Invisible_Ubuntu, no problem
[04:33] <onats> mastershrek, but how do i enable/use other services if i dont have port forward? i do have uPNP on though
[04:33] <evfan42> when I have all the effects on with my nvidia geforce ti 4200, I cant see the top menu bar with the minimize and exit buttons on it, and my terminal is completely white
[04:33] <Chumby> jakaesop... I have dual boot.  If I select recovery mode, it goes to a terminal.  If I select the default it tries to go to the gui. So yes.. can get to a terminal;
[04:33] <broken> Ashfire908, wait is there a package ubuntu-restricted-extras or?
[04:33] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: is your monitor refresh/resolution right?
[04:33] <Spzatt> uhh
[04:33] <Spzatt> soldats
[04:34] <soldats> evfan42, i wish i could help but i havent been able to fix this other than creating a new user account
[04:34] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: did you put that in your xorg conf after looking at your manual to what specifics it is?
[04:34] <Ashfire908> broken: did you install the Ubuntu Restricted Extras package from Add/Remove Applications?
[04:34] <Spzatt> soldats, i go to restricted drivers
[04:34] <broken> how do i get there i mean i can't see it
[04:34] <Spzatt> i activate the nvidia one
[04:34] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: sorry, was getting grub...can you open firefox and navigate to http://localhost:631 ?
[04:34] <xcst> where can i get additional desklets?
[04:34] <Spzatt> and get this error : The software source for the package
[04:34] <Spzatt>    nvidia-glx-new
[04:34] <Spzatt>  is not enabled.
[04:35] <MasterShrek> Spzatt, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[04:35] <soldats> Spzatt, enable it
[04:35] <Ashfire908> broken, right click the menu and select edit menu
[04:35] <Spzatt> ive tried, gives me that error
[04:35] <evfan42> Invisible_Ubuntu: yeah it worked fine until I rebotoed my computer, I dont quite follow you on your last comment
[04:35] <jackaesop> Chumby: what is your video card? sometimes you can get your graphical server back by using another driver in the xorg...
[04:35] <broken> Ashfire908, ok
[04:35] <Spzatt> MasterShrek
[04:35] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: error?
[04:35] <MasterShrek> ?
[04:35] <Spzatt> when i try to say that, i get this error : Package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:35] <Spzatt> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:35] <Spzatt> is only available from another source
[04:35] <Spzatt> E: Package nvidia-glx-new has no installation candidate
[04:35] <Spzatt> )
[04:35] <Ashfire908> broken, select add/remove Applications in the right window.
[04:35] <Spzatt> sorry for spam
[04:35] <MasterShrek> !info nvidia-glx-new
[04:35] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[04:36] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: well you already did "make install" right?
[04:36] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: Ok as I remember it been a while, to properly setup your xorg and make drivers optimal you need to put in the Refresh mhz rate in the xorg.conf file to match your monitor otherwise its some generic one
[04:36] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: yea
[04:36] <evfan42> soldats: someone gave me a code and I put it into the terminal and it worked fine after that, I dont remember the code, after I put it in it said something like RGB visuals added or around those lines
[04:36] <Spzatt> what should i do mastershrek?
[04:36] <Chumby> jackaesop - I have an intel card on board a Dell 2400 Desktop.  There is also a SIS card in the marchine, but I dont have anything plugged into that at the moment
[04:36] <MasterShrek> Spzatt, you need the restricted repository, you probably havent enabled it.  system > admin > software sources
[04:36] <Ashfire908> broken: do you want just the mp3 and media stuff or do you want Java, microsoft fonts, flash etc?
[04:36] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: some sizes aren't support and with mhz refresh off it won't line up edge to edge right is what I'm saying
[04:36] <broken> All that good stuff.
[04:37] <Ashfire908> broken: Then install the Ubuntu Restricted Extras.
[04:37] <soldats> evfan42, type history in a terminal and try to remember what it was
[04:37] <Ashfire908> broken: you are in the United States right?
[04:37] <Spzatt> it works mastershrek thanks
[04:37] <Spzatt> its downloading now
[04:37] <jackaesop> Chumby: hmmm, intels usually have great oss support, so i doubt that is it.  I wonder if it's trying to use the sis card.  The sis is onboard
[04:37] <soldats> evfan42, "history | less"
[04:38] <jackaesop> Chumby: *onboard?
[04:38] <evfan42> I found it I think
[04:38] <evfan42>    36  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[04:38] <evfan42> was the code I believe
[04:38] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: do "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start"
[04:38] <broken> Ashfire908, to be honest now.. I was just playing dumb because a friend needed help streaming music.
[04:38] <hwilde> evfan42, you can just type in !36  to execute that number from the history
[04:38] <broken> But she didin't want to come here, so I just asked as if I were her.
[04:38] <Ashfire908> broken: lol k are they in the USA?
[04:38] <Chumby> jackaesop - no it is in one of the slots in the machine
[04:38] <broken> Sounds weird, but yea lol.
[04:38] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: assuming it's there, since you did the automake way...
[04:39] <broken> Ashfire908, yea.
[04:39] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: yea, said it started ok
[04:39] <Spzatt> mastershrek, it looks like its done, what now? do i have to restart my pc?
[04:39] <Spzatt> or activate the file now?
[04:39] <Ashfire908> broken: k. that stuff is illegal in some contries.
[04:39] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok, now its at a cups page (localhost:631)
[04:39] <Chumby> jakesop - i have 2 screens working fine in XP though when I normally use that
[04:39] <danny> hey, whats a cool widgets for linux
[04:39] <Spzatt> kk i gotta restart
[04:39] <MasterShrek> Spzatt, just restart your xserver i think
[04:39] <Spzatt> i love you mastershrek
[04:39] <CapaH> I have a soundblaster audigy card, and when I boot up the ubuntu sound plays fine --- the startup sound, but I cannot get the sound to work anywhere else (ex youtube etc) --- if I unplug the sound from my sound card and plug it into my onboard motherboard sound it works -- but I want to be using my sound card. Ideas?
[04:39] <broken> Ashfire908, ah I see.
[04:39] <MasterShrek> Spzatt, just do ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:39] <Spzatt> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[04:39] <Spzatt> yeah ok
[04:39] <MasterShrek> yup
[04:39] <broken> yea i don't run ubuntu as you can tell.
[04:39] <jackaesop> Chumby: before messing around the xorg.conf it might be easier to pull the sis card and see if that fixes it. you say you don't use it?
[04:40] <nettow0822_> does anyone know how to setup different channel ID's for snapstream firefly remote?
[04:40] <Ashfire908> broken, lol you should cause zomg ubuntu is the best think on the planet get it ge- just kidding :P
[04:40] <onats> how do i use my local machine, to log-on to a server machine (still on ubuntu) on my local network, without losing my current session?
[04:40] <Chumby> jackaesop - yea use it for XP in a dual screen set up - works like a charm so dont really want to pull it out
[04:40] <Chumby> if i dont have to
[04:40] <broken> Ashfire908, i run gentoo on 3 computers, and ubuntu for the family.
[04:40] <broken> lol
[04:41] <Ashfire908> broken, oh lol
[04:41] <somtimecharlie> Got a real fast question....... I am using gparted to repartition a disk and this may take a while to finish.  If I switch from root to normal user while this is going on, will my programs continue to run in root?  Can I simply check in on them to see whenever it finishes?
[04:41] <Ashfire908> broken, heh
[04:41] <onats> broken, whats the major difference of gentoo vs ubuntu?
[04:41] <evfan42> hmmm, that didn't work
[04:41] <broken> It is a breeze to install and works.
[04:41] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: can you do a an administration -> find new printers? i'm assuming it's plugged in
[04:41] <somtimecharlie>  btw it's Gutsy
[04:41] <Ashfire908> onats: everything has to be compiled.
[04:41] <onats> ubuntu's just quite the same...
[04:41] <Invisible_Ubuntu> somtimecharlie: yes it will
[04:41] <shadowblade> i think i got it working now
[04:41] <shadowblade> i just clicked add printer on that page
[04:41] <MasterShrek> onats, package management is the biggest difference
[04:41] <HeatMzzr> are all hardware devices supported by Ubuntu? Webcams printers etc?? thinking of making the switch permanent
[04:42] <broken> onats, its just what I like and what I'm used to.
[04:42] <Ashfire908> onats: where in ubuntu you just get precompiled programs
[04:42] <onats> broken, i see...
[04:42] <broken> first linux I ever installed, and the onyl one Im comfortable with.
[04:42] <somtimecharlie> thanks appreciate it....
[04:42] <jackaesop> Chumby: oh, i see... that is reasonable. My next inclination is to look at xorg.conf.
[04:42] <whereswaldo> hey, I have a glib error, but when I try and apt-get glib, it says it cant find the package... I cant ,/configure anything though, says its missing, and to top it off I have the build essentials package installed
[04:42] <onats> ashfire908, so what would be the advantage if each program is compiled..?
[04:42] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: its asking me the kind of printer? or supply a ppd file?
[04:42] <Invisible_Ubuntu> HeatMzzr: there is always a good amount that is supported but with computers nothing is 100% certain except have a change to mess up ;p
[04:42] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu: how would I figure my refresh rates and stuff
[04:42] <larrywells> yea ubuntu is hot
[04:42] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: that is listed in your users manual or found on our monitor website after some digging
[04:42] <Chumby> thanks jackaesop - how do i do that from the terminal?
[04:43] <Ashfire908> onats: it runs faster, but compiling requires the computer to build the programs from source which can be slow.
[04:43] <broken> They are built for your specific architecture though.
[04:43] <soldats> Ashfire908, true and when i had gentoo the compiling was so slow i switched back to ubuntu
[04:43] <broken> So in theory they should run faster.
[04:43] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: did your printer show up?
[04:43] <onats> ashfire908, alright.. no need for that now for me then...
[04:43] <broken> But speed isn't an issue with modern computers.
[04:43] <jackaesop> Chumby: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <broken> There are bins for the large packages.
[04:43] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: yea...but now its asking me what kind
[04:44] <broken> firefox, open office. Its not only a source based distro...
[04:44] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: this is where there's a bit of art...
[04:44] <jackaesop> Chumby: that will let you edit the file, but I hate to send you in there without any specifics.  I just can't really guess whats going on with out looking at that file.
[04:44] <Chumby> ok jack - am in now.  What next?
[04:44] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: heh
[04:44] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: you can try some of the generic PCL5 drivers
[04:44] <Ashfire908> broken not everyone has the cpu power to do that.
[04:44] <jackaesop> chumby: here are some useful things for trouble shooting...
[04:44] <Chumby> yeeks.. im in
[04:44] <jackaesop> Chumby: oh, great
[04:44] <broken> Ashfire908, what exactly?
[04:45] <Ashfire908> broken, compile.
[04:45] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: at least from what I know about lexmarks, they tend to be PCL friendly
[04:45] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: the options in the given list ar Dell M5200 Foomatic/Postscript and Dell S2500 Foomatic/Postrcipt
[04:45] <hdevalence> I downloaded the sqlite-doc package, but I can't seem to find where it installed to...
[04:45] <godemonite> Ashfire908, Hey, the effects, could it be because it shows that both graphics cards, integrated and my radeon, are both on?
[04:45] <kelsin> hdevalence: "dpkg -K sqlite-doc"
[04:45] <broken> I don't know how you got that from what I said, but ok.
[04:45] <kelsin> hdevalence: sorry that was wrong "dpkg -L <package>"
[04:45] <jackaesop> Chumby: jump down to the device section. there might be two since you have two cards installed
[04:45] <Ashfire908> godemonite, huh?
[04:46] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: unfortunately since we don't have an exact driver, it's a throw a few bricks at it until something works kind of thing
[04:46] <Ashfire908> godemonite, if effects are set and show as off, they are off.
[04:46] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ok
[04:46] <godemonite> Ashfire908, ok, sorry
[04:46] <Chumby> all I see on the screen is a blank editor - Nano? No code in there at all...
[04:46] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: what would a ppd file be?
[04:47] <Ashfire908> broken: if i understand right you don't really even get a kernel
[04:47] <jackaesop> Chumby: oh, we must have opend the wrong file. the unix file system is case sensitive, so be sure you typed it in exactly
[04:47] <whereswaldo> hey how do you get glib? I have build essential installed, but when I try and ./configure it says its missing, and when I try apt-get it says it cant find it
[04:47] <broken> What?
[04:47] <krammer> problem im stuck with a command line for grub need to get back to os any suggestions?
[04:47] <dopievoli> hi whats a good IRC client for ms dos?
[04:47] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade:description of what your printer can handle
[04:47] <soothsayer> whereswaldo: install libglib1.2 and libglib1.2-dev
[04:47] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: is it asking for one?
[04:48] <Dr_willis> dopievoli,  i think you may want to google for that.....
[04:48] <soldats> krammer, startx
[04:48] <idiot> i get a seg fault intermittently with gcc "The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem."  using 7.10 gutsy, gcc 4.1.3.  it says its a hardward problem...is this true do you think?  maybe corrupted memory?  has anyone else been he bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.getting this when upgrading to gutsy?  any other suggestions?
[04:48] <kelsin> dopievoli: what?? Dos? yeah, not quite the right channel
[04:48] <Ashfire908> broken: i was told by my friend you have to compile the kernel as well as programs
[04:48] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: no it was just an option at the last page
[04:48] <broken> Ashfire908, you mean installing gentoo? Depends how you do it. Live CD or CLI install. The CLI method is considered better, as it actually works and you learn more.
[04:48] <krammer> unreconnized
[04:48] <broken> But yea yo pull in the kernel sources and compile it.
[04:48] <broken> After you've done a few its a piece of cake.
[04:48] <whereswaldo> hey thanks
[04:48] <soldats> krammer, do you have a windows manager
[04:48] <Ashfire908> broken: i could never do that here lol i have dial-up
[04:49] <broken> :(
[04:49] <krammer> i have grub> thats it
[04:49] <krammer> watch u c is all i have
[04:49]  * broken rememebers living on dial up for 8 years..
[04:49] <Chumby> ok jack - sorry about that - I am in there now
[04:49]  * broken shudders
[04:49] <jackaesop> Chumby: ok, cool
[04:49] <jackaesop> Chumby: jump down to the bottom of the file.
[04:50] <Spzatt> !world of warcraft
[04:50] <kelsin> broken: lol yeah, parents didn't get dsl at home until after I graduated from college, I HATED visiting home from college :) Wasn't able to install any linux till freshman year really due to that :-(
[04:50] <soldats> krammer, when you restart the machine it doesnt boot to a gui windows manager
[04:50] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: mind you those two dell drivers are only monochrome...
[04:50] <krammer> nope
[04:50] <Spzatt> durr, how did i get that wow support site again?
[04:50] <Chumby> yep... down there now
[04:50] <broken> Hehe bummer.
[04:50] <krammer> just grub>
[04:50] <jackaesop> Chumby: you should see some device sections that describe your cards, after that, a section screen that describes wich card to use
[04:50] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: wow thats great
[04:50] <jackaesop> Chumby: is the default screen using the right video card
[04:50] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: did it print?
[04:51] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: not yet - im trying the 2nd driver
[04:51] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: 1st one didnt work
[04:51] <Spzatt> anyone know how to get MSN to work on ubuntu ?
[04:51] <Arrick> hey all, I have a quick question. I am trying to install ubuntu server 6.01 (i believe) but I need to install with the vga=771 deal, how do I enter that in?
[04:51] <soldats> krammer, so you have no gdm installed correct? sudo apt-get install gdm
[04:51] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: i'm not really surprised...its really hit or miss here with lexmark
[04:51] <MasterShrek> Spzatt, msn messenger?
[04:51] <ciacon> hi all - I have a question... I was wondering, how and if, I am running the core2duo @ it's max... I found out that by running "cat /proc/interupts" I could see the activity of each cpu... one has be doing loads (cpu0) but the other (cpu1) only has a batch of zeros... anyone got any hints?
[04:51] <SeabassTKE> Spzatt: msn messenger?
[04:52] <krammer> soldats: messed up somewhere but deleting a partition also in my bios ide hard drice is not present
[04:52] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: yea, 2nd one isnt working either, should i try telling it its a lexmark printer instead of dell?
[04:52] <SeabassTKE> lol, sorry shrek, didnt see ur response
[04:52] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: the workaround i've seen a lot is 1) install vmware 2) install a winxp vm 3) install the printer in the vm (map the usb to it) and share 4) map your linux box to the share (now that's ugly)
[04:52] <choudesh> does update-alternatives --set java {path} also change the java-plugin for firefox?
[04:52] <broken> I'm offically running my dual core 3.2ghz stable.
[04:52] <Chumby> yep .. I just see one device, monitor, screen...
[04:52] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: yah you can try the lexmark drivers. i'm not sure which it is, but dell is an oem'd lexmark printer
[04:52] <ciacon> !core2
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about core2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <jackaesop> Chumby: and it's the intel?
[04:53] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: ive still got vista dual booted...i suppose i can just boot into that hen i need to print
[04:53] <Chumby> Device = Intel
[04:53] <michaelpatterson> I have a question about install of Ubuntu 7.10
[04:53] <MasterShrek> !ask
[04:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:53] <soldats> krammer, your problem seems to be pretty messed up, if you only have grub and want a gui windose manager get "gdm" or is it too late to reinstall the linux OS ans install the window manager
[04:53] <ciacon> michaelpatterson: just ask =)
[04:53] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: well thanks a lot for all of your help
[04:54] <krammer> i tried booting into xp and fedora
[04:54] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: yah...well, there you go. print to a pdf file, save it to your vista partition and print there...but really you should fix cups right :) this might've been a lot easier with it installed and not broken (we get more options)
[04:54] <krammer> keeps going back to grub>
[04:54] <jackaesop> Chumby: you may need to specify another driver to use with that card, you might search on the specific model with google, crossed with linux...
[04:54] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: sorry i couldn't get you further
[04:54] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: i can play around with the different cups drivers
[04:54] <michaelpatterson> If I am dual-booting Ubuntu with Vista, during the Ubuntu "Ready to Install" window, should I be worried if 'Windows Vista' doesn't show up under Migration Assistant?
[04:54] <Invisible_Ubuntu> krammer: you keep trying to select a choice at grub and none of them load a OS?
[04:54] <jackaesop> Chumby: something else we can do is fire up the X server and look at the logs to see what goes on...
[04:55] <shadowblade> kitofhawaii: you help a lot, thanks
[04:55] <MasterShrek> michaelpatterson, not really, you can always add it to grub later
[04:55] <SeabassTKE> anyone else freeze up constantly in gutsy?
[04:55] <kitofhawaii> shadowblade: yw...good luck with it :)
[04:55] <soldats> krammer, hmm that may be beyond me right now since im extremely tired
[04:55] <MasterShrek> SeabassTKE, probably overheating
[04:55] <krammer> ok thanks
[04:55] <jackaesop> Chumby: switch to the second Virtual terminal and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:55] <SeabassTKE> i don't think so
[04:55] <Chumby> ok... it does give an error messgae.. X server did not start - EDID was not installed...
[04:56] <Arrick> i *think* i got it kevin, but we'll see
[04:56] <Chumby> jack... how do I get to the 2nd terminal?
[04:56] <jackaesop> Chumby: edid? what is that?
[04:56] <SeabassTKE> i keep an eye on temps and no warnings or anything
[04:56] <jackaesop> Chumby: oh, ctrl-f2
[04:56] <ifergus> ?Since i installed ubuntu 7.10 I can no longer access my hotmail account with evolution, is this a coincidence?
[04:56] <michaelpatterson> MasterSkrek: Its not going to like overwrite my Vista install or anything like that?
[04:56] <Chumby> no idea jack... will do that jack
[04:56] <MasterShrek> michaelpatterson, as long as you make sure you know what you are doing at the partitioner step
[04:56] <jackaesop> Chumby: you have virtual terminals from f1-f6, f7 is the graphical server.
[04:57] <SeabassTKE> that and my laptop still feels reasonably cool
[04:57] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu: alright I found a pdf of the manual, and I found the refresh rates, now how do I update with those?
[04:57] <Chumby> hmmm not working jack cntrl f2 does nothing
[04:57] <jackaesop> Chumby: oh, i think it's alt-f2, and ctl-alt-f# when running X, sorry
[04:57] <michaelpatterson> MasterSkrek: let me get to that step, and I'll ask you what's up
[04:57] <michaelpatterson> if that works?
[04:58] <jackaesop> Chumby: it's funny, once your fingers learn it, the brain forgets.
[04:58] <MasterShrek> sure
[04:58] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:58] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: that will get you in your xorg config file.. go to the bottom where it talks about what Resolutions/refresh for your monitor and out it in there..
[04:58] <evfan42> alright
[04:58] <Chumby> jack.. I do alt f2 and all I get is a flashing cursor top of screen
[04:59] <ifergus> ?Since i installed ubuntu 7.10 I can no longer access my hotmail account with evolution, is this a coincidence?
[04:59] <frost0> uncommon, my friend is installing ubuntu as we speak..(w00t)...and is trying to commit 6gb to the install
[04:59] <jackaesop> Chumby: really? same for all the virtual terminals?
[04:59] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: looking for this Section "Monitor"
[04:59] <MasterShrek> frost0, i woulda told him to use more than 6 gigs
[04:59] <SeabassTKE> lol, i remember having so many probs with graphics
[04:59] <frost0> MasterShrek, that is all he has
[04:59] <frost0> MasterShrek, he just wants to goof around and maybe play one game
[04:59] <MasterShrek> ic
[05:00] <trumpetmic> anyone mastered getting freenx working in ubuntu?
[05:00] <frost0> MasterShrek, nothing serious
[05:00] <trumpetmic> i'm getting authentication errors
[05:00] <Chumby> all... if I hit alt-f1 I get back to the original terminal
[05:00] <frost0> MasterShrek, do you think it will work with 6gb?
[05:01] <jackaesop> Chumby: must be a recovery mode thing... did you try to start X already and if gave you that weird EDID error?
[05:01] <frost0> MasterShrek, that is all he can give
[05:01] <MasterShrek> frost0, oh it will work, thats just not alot of wiggle room for installing stuff, but it will work
[05:01] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: I'll be doing something along that line in a day or two when I'm done ripping my music I'm going to get my video properly working and setup my dual monitors
[05:01] <soldats> trumpetmic, both machines need to be a *nix based
[05:01] <frost0> MasterShrek, he wants to give it 6gb but the guided partitioner doesn't go that low
[05:01] <SpookyET> Is there a site with a decent navigation for themes, gdm, icons, grub, etc?
[05:01] <frost0> MasterShrek, and i don't know how to do manual
[05:01] <MasterShrek> frost0, have him do it manually
[05:01] <MasterShrek> heh
[05:01] <Chumby> no havent done it yet... what do i type in again?
[05:01] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu: alright I updated the refresh rates, and saved it, now I just try again?
[05:02] <frost0> MasterShrek, he doesn't know what to do
[05:02] <trumpetmic> soldats: even though there's a windows client?  is that supposed to be just a ubuntu problem?  I had the same setup working with fc6
[05:02] <Spzatt> halp... : install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[05:02] <jackaesop> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:02] <Invisible_Ubuntu> you need to leave your x window session
[05:02] <Invisible_Ubuntu> so restart
[05:02] <Spzatt> halp... : install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[05:02] <jackaesop> when x fails it should give you an error msg... if not we can look at dmesg
[05:03] <soldats> trumpetmic, not sure i was unaware of a win client i use vncviewer for logging in from windose
[05:03] <frost0> MasterShrek, the options are edit partition...new partition...delete partition...
[05:03] <MasterShrek> frost0, have him create a swap partition, that is the size of however much ram he has, and use the rest for the install
[05:03] <soldats> trumpetmic, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:03] <mana1> hi. Where are the network settings stored? I need to get around a bug in the Network Settings GUI (changed the password on the wireless network, but Network Settings keep reverting to the old password after a restart...I can't keep modifying it every logon).
[05:04] <Spzatt> halp... : install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[05:04] <Chumby> typed it in... and it says starting GNOME display .. [OK] ... then a message appears : Failed to start the X server (your grpahical interface).  It is liekly it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[05:04] <bobgill> How do I uninstall a program that I installed from a .deb ??
[05:04] <Chumby> I hit yes and get the message...
[05:04] <jackaesop> Chumby: sounds good, lets take a look
[05:04] <MasterShrek> bobgill, apt-get remove <program>
[05:04] <soldats> bobgill, sudo apt-get autoremove <app>
[05:04] <MasterShrek> bobgill, sudo apt-get **
[05:04] <michaelpatterson> MasterShrek: I'm sorry, but I have never heard the term GRUB menu? Is that just a menu to select which OS I want to boot each time
[05:04] <michaelpatterson> ?
[05:05] <Spzatt> MasterShrek : install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[05:05] <Spzatt> help
[05:05] <jeremyb> michaelpatterson: grub is a bootloader
[05:05] <jeremyb> michaelpatterson: it can be interactive or it can just load for you
[05:05] <MasterShrek> i dunno Spzatt tried wine maybe? are they .exe files?
[05:05] <michaelpatterson> jeremyb: thanks.
[05:05] <MasterShrek> !wine | Spzatt
[05:05] <ubotu> Spzatt: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:05] <Spzatt> yes i know
[05:05] <jackaesop> Chumby: if it's allot to paste we should use the paste channel. I don't know what it is though
[05:05] <jeremyb> !grub | michaelpatterson
[05:05] <ubotu> michaelpatterson: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:05] <Spzatt> it is a exe file
[05:05] <jeremyb> heh
[05:06] <mana1> no one knows which file stores the network configuration?
[05:06] <Spzatt> but i need net framework for it
[05:06] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: it work ok and you get into gui?
[05:06] <Suttin> Hey guys, my graphics are all messed up as soon as i boot, and i was wondering if there was a way to reset the grapics settings to default from the recovery console
[05:06] <jackaesop> guys, where is the channel for pasting?
[05:06] <Spzatt> which linux doesnt support
[05:06] <trumpetmic> can grub boot Vista or OSX?
[05:06] <jeremyb> jackaesop: pastebin?
[05:06] <MasterShrek> !paste
[05:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:06] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu: no it didn't work
[05:06] <soldats> Suttin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:06] <Suttin> thank you soldats
[05:06] <jackaesop> ah, thanks, I thought it was a channel for some reason.
[05:07] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: go to the Display manager and resize your desktop then do the "Auto Adjust" on your monitor
[05:07] <trumpetmic> anyone aware of a grub config able to boot osx and/or vista?
[05:07] <soldats> Suttin, just do default for everything
[05:07] <Suttin> ok, ill be back in a bit
[05:07] <Spzatt> MasterShrek : install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[05:08] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu: display manager = nvidia settings?
[05:08] <Chumby> jack... just sent you a message (i think in private)
[05:08] <MasterShrek> Chumby, he wont get it unless your nick is registered (just so u know)
[05:09] <teslacoil> it just dawned on me that I can give my non-internet computer packages and install them that way, hah
[05:09] <michaelpatterson> where do I go to register my nick?
[05:09] <Chumby> Thanks for that MasterShrek...
[05:09] <MasterShrek> !register
[05:09] <Flannel> teslacoil: AptOnCD is a lovely utility to aid in sneakernet
[05:09] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:09] <teslacoil> am I right about that?
[05:09] <bruenig> !register | michaelpatterson
[05:09] <ubotu> michaelpatterson: please see above
[05:09] <jackaesop> Chumby: if you did i don't know how to view it. I'm just getting used to this client, irssi
[05:09] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: System > Administration > Screen and Graphics
[05:09] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: what resolution/depth you have it on?
[05:09] <Chumby> !register | Chumby
[05:09] <jackaesop> Chumby: use the pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, and drop us the URL
[05:09] <Spzatt> halp... : install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[05:10] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu: 1280x10245
[05:10] <shane1> hello
[05:10] <evfan42> 1024*
[05:10] <soldats> !wine | Spzatt
[05:10] <ubotu> Spzatt: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:10] <soldats> shane1, hello
[05:10] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: Refresh rate?
[05:10] <shane1> !register shane
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register shane - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <Spzatt> spødats
[05:10] <Spzatt> soldats
[05:10] <Spzatt> the program im running requires windows net framework v2
[05:10] <Pir8_> is there a linux program that mounts .iso ?
[05:10] <Chumby> jack ... ok will try
[05:10] <soldats> shane1, you do /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:10]  * uncommon is back (gone 01:01:20)
[05:10] <Spzatt> but it tells me to download mono ?
[05:11] <Flannel> Pir8: linux has the capability by default
[05:11] <Flannel> !iso | Pir8
[05:11] <ubotu> Pir8: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:11] <Pir8> through command line yes.
[05:11] <Pir8> ok thanks.
[05:11] <evfan42> ivisible_ubunut: it says 96 there, but in nvidia settings it says 60
[05:11] <soldats> Spzatt, download the program and run it in wine and see if it works
[05:11] <Spzatt> what program?
[05:12] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: change it in there to 60, and then "Auto Adjust" on your monitor
[05:12] <soldats> Spzatt, download mono and run it in wine
[05:12] <Spzatt> k, where do i get mono?
[05:12] <Spzatt> on the ubuntu site?
[05:12] <frost0> MasterShrek, would he click new partition table?
[05:12] <Chumby> jacksop - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47499/
[05:12] <krammer> im stuck on grub> ( i want to reinstall ubuntu but dont have win all i have is grub> any help
[05:12] <soldats> krammer, do you have the liceCD
[05:12] <soldats> Spzatt, googel maybe
[05:12] <krammer> ihave the cd
[05:12] <evfan42> Invisible_Ubuntu: it won't let me change it to 60, and it doesn't say auto anything anywhere
[05:13] <krammer> but and the bios is set to boot but it goes diredtly to grub
[05:13] <soldats> krammer, insert it and change your bios to boot cd forst and install
[05:13] <jackaesop> Chumby: oh, you chould have typed that in here...
[05:13] <Spzatt> found it kty
[05:13] <MasterShrek> frost0, i think so, unless its on the same disk as a different os, then i dont think he should
[05:13] <d3MMoNuL> anyone know how can i share a internet connection? :|
[05:13] <Chumby> jacksop.  Then it says - The X Server is now disabled. restart GDM when it is configured correctly
[05:13] <krammer> i tried that but goes to grub
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> d3MMoNuL: easiest thing is to get a router.
[05:13] <jackaesop> Chumby: I don't know what the hell it's talking about... do you want to try to install that package it mentions?
[05:13] <frost0> MasterShrek, he is trying to dual boot with windows.
[05:13] <frost0> MasterShrek, huh..
[05:14] <soldats> krammer, i had that problem as well and it turned out my cd drive was dead
[05:14] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: right about it under Monitor, try to find yours in the list maybe that will help if not then I'm not sure :S your xorg.conf is properly setup..
[05:14] <jb0nd38372> Evening all.. Has anyone had issues with firefox / and the flash plugin not working?  I did a fresh install of ubuntu 7.10 and fully updated it.  Loaded firefox, went to youtube, and installed the adobe flash plug in... restarted firefox but no go with anything flash.. but firefox says its installed.... Any ideas?
[05:14] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: as I said its been a while and sorry I couldn't help more
[05:14] <d3MMoNuL> IndyGunFreak: i can use ubuntu as a rooter :) that`s my problem :|
[05:14] <Chumby> any ideas how to do that?  I think i did try yesterday after finding a post - but made no difference?
[05:14] <krammer> i know it isnt that
[05:14] <zani> hey all how can i install the compizfusion screensaver plugin on 7.1?
[05:14] <timsandtoms> Hey guys, for XChat, should I download Fedora version, or source code
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> d3MMoNuL: well, i have no idea.
[05:14] <soldats> krammer, well i wishi could help but i goots go
[05:14] <Invisible_Ubuntu> jb0nd38372: did you also install the SWF player it was probably asking about to?
[05:15] <michaelpatterson> MasterSkrek: when will I be presented with the part I need to watch out for during this installation?
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> timsandtoms: neither.. open a terminal and type, "sudo apt-get install xchat" no quotes
[05:15] <timsandtoms> oh, k, thanks
[05:15] <d3MMoNuL> IndyGunFreak: so there is no way that i can share my internet from eth0 whit another computer?
[05:15] <godemonite> How do you changed the use of the graphics card from the integrated, to vesa?
[05:15] <krammer> np
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> d3MMoNuL: i didn't say that.... i said i don't know.
[05:15] <jackaesop> Chumby: there doesn't seem to be a get-edid package, only read-edid. We'll try that.
[05:15] <krammer> i got it
[05:15] <d3MMoNuL> thanks :|
[05:15] <timsandtoms> haha, sorry, used to windows, having to download and install myself, not having apt-get or synaptic
[05:15] <evfan42> invisible_ubuntu:alright, well thanks for your help anyways
[05:15] <krammer> it would be better if i would have put it in the right drive
[05:15] <jb0nd38372> Invisible_Ubuntu, No it just ask me to install flash.. I had two choices, adobe non free flash, or gnash, I chose the flash plug in... tried it.. uninstalled, tried gnash, but nothing works with flash
[05:15] <jackaesop> Chumby: do you have an internet connection... also, was the video card using the vesa driver when you looked at the xorg.conf?
[05:15] <Invisible_Ubuntu> evfan42: np hope someone else can help you with that
[05:16] <Chumby> sounds good... I am back at the terminal now
[05:16] <Invisible_Ubuntu> jb0nd38372: they are both needed.
[05:16] <IndyGunFreak> jb0nd38372: have you tried downloading the source from adobe.com?
[05:16] <Invisible_Ubuntu> jb0nd38372: SWF and Flash is diffrent both players should be installed
[05:16] <jb0nd38372> Invisible_Ubuntu, Oh I thought gnash was the opensource "replacement" for adobe's version of flash
[05:16] <Chumby> yep internet OK. vesa driver?  Not sure
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> jb0nd38372: it is.. but its far from perfect, i don't think it works with Youtube to be truthful, but ic ould be wrong.
[05:17] <Invisible_Ubuntu> jb0nd38372: had the same problem as you, thought the same installed both and bam it worked
[05:17] <jb0nd38372> IndyGunFreak, Is there a howto somewhere.. i'm new, so im not to adept at compling source yet
[05:17] <jackaesop> Chumby: just a thought, under the device section that described the card, where it says driver... we might be able to get you going with the basic vesa
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> jb0nd38372: the instructions to isntall it from source is on their website.., its not hard.
[05:17] <buttercups> jb0nd38372, download the source and install from adobe, had the same problem, type ./flashplayer-installer, to install
[05:18] <jackaesop> Chumby: otherwise lets install read-edid with: sudo apt-get install read-edid
[05:18] <Chumby> ok.. i am back in the xorg file - driver is "intel"
[05:18] <jb0nd38372> ok thanks buttercups , IndyGunFreak  and Invisible_Ubuntu  I'll try the above sugguestions :)
[05:18] <jackaesop> Chumby: you can comment out that line by putting a # in front of it
[05:19] <jackaesop> Chumby: then copy it but change intel to vesa and see if that works...
[05:19] <TSCHAK> do any SATA port multipliers work on Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:19] <michaelpatterson> Do I need to worry that there are two "Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader)" under "Other operating systems:" in the GRUB
[05:19] <michaelpatterson> ?
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: not really,k figure out which one works, then boot ubuntu, and remove the one you don't need.
[05:19] <Chumby> ok... hmmm.. how to copy?
[05:19] <aolaus> can someone help me out with ftp and netrc?
[05:20] <guero> Hey everyone, sorry to interrupt but I have an issue with the nm-applet. After I woke it up from standby mode it stopped displaying wireless networks and only displays the wired network option. Have rebooted the computer and the applet but the issue persists, any ideas?
[05:20] <michaelpatterson> Indy: so, try the first, then try the second? remember which one works, then reboot and go into Ubuntu?
[05:20] <jackaesop> oh, i don't use nano so I don't know if it has a copy... do you have the use of your mouse?
[05:20] <frost0> MasterShrek, the guided partitioner keeps failing..whats up with this?
[05:20] <kitofhawaii> guero: are you using ndiswrapper?
[05:20] <aolaus> yes, nano has copy
[05:20] <guero> kitiofhawaii: no i'm not
[05:20] <jackaesop> aolaus: can you tell Chumby how..
[05:20] <Chumby> no mouse...just keys.  I wil just change it to vesa...
[05:21] <guero> i'm using a dell
[05:21] <frost0> MasterShrek, can i do this manually?
[05:21] <guero> inspiron
[05:21] <nowald> hi
[05:21] <michaelpatterson> yo
[05:21] <JamoSmith> LiMaO: are you there kind sir.
[05:21] <nowald> anyone knows how to translate gnome-app-install ?
[05:21] <aolaus> it's not copy per se
[05:21] <guero> and it had built in wireless configuration
[05:21] <aolaus> ctrl k
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> !anyone | nowald
[05:21] <ubotu> nowald: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:22] <aolaus> Chumby: ctrl k is the "cut" function
[05:22] <JamoSmith> how do I force ubuntu to auto detect video settings (I screwed them up and now I get jibberish)
[05:22] <aolaus> it will take all the text from your cursor up until the end of the line
[05:22] <aolaus> delete it and store it in a buffer
[05:22] <MasterShrek> yes frost0, but its hard for me to explain it cuz im not sitting right there, i dont know what the partitioner looks like and without that its tough to explain it
[05:22] <kitofhawaii> guero: you try "/etc/init.d/networking restart"? could be your wifi card isn't standby aware
[05:22] <kitofhawaii> guero: well, the driver at least
[05:22] <aolaus> you can then "paste" it as many times as you want with ctrl u
[05:22] <frost0> MasterShrek, i understand...thats my problem with my buddy.... :)
[05:23] <Chumby> ok... have saved the drivwer as vesa now jacksop
[05:23] <jackaesop> aolaus: thx
[05:23] <Chumby> will try to reboot... also thx jacksop
[05:23] <jackaesop> Chumby: save the file and try to start gdm again...
[05:23] <guero> kitofhawaii: and i type that in the terminal?
[05:23] <guero> right
[05:23] <guero> ?
[05:23] <musashi> can anyone help me mount an encrypted external drive that was set up under a previous install. I installed cryptsetup again but when connected it asks for a password and then does nothing.
[05:23] <michaelpatterson> I selected the first Windows OS from the GRUB, but the "Vaio Recovery Center" is on my screen now???
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: ok, reboot, and try the second one.
[05:24] <michaelpatterson> how do I reboot from this?
[05:24] <kitofhawaii> guero: well "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it's more than likely your standby/resume scripts don't do anything to your wifi nic
[05:24] <aolaus> does anyone have experience with scripting ftp?
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: control alt delete?
[05:24] <kitofhawaii> guero: and yes, do that in terminal
[05:24] <Chumby> OK jacksop.... did that and it said starting GNOME Display Manager.... [OK]
[05:24] <jackaesop> Chumby: and...
[05:25] <Chumby> nothing else has happened though.  Should I reboot back in normal mode and see if it now works?
[05:25] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: that doesn't do anything?
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: so hitting control alt delete doesn't reboot your PC?
[05:25] <jackaesop> Chumby: yeah, you might...
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> is it frozen up?
[05:25] <jackaesop> Chumby: you could try startx too
[05:25] <xiven> Anyone know why Ubuntu would get an IP, and DNS info..but not be able to connect to anything, or even ping the router?
[05:25] <jackaesop> Chumby: that way if it doesn't work we can try the other thing
[05:26] <Chumby> ok doing reboot now jacksop
[05:26] <guero> kitofhawaii: okay i tried it and so far it's showing a lot of text
[05:26] <Chumby> nope...
[05:26] <MasterShrek> xiven, bad cable?
[05:26] <owen1> anyone uses e17/enlighment?
[05:26] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: it tells me to choose a program, I have Windows System Restore...Vaio Hardware Diag...Restore C:...Rescue Data
[05:26] <xiven> I've tried a new cable
[05:26] <guero> now it's done
[05:26] <jackaesop> Chumby: didn't work?
[05:26] <guero> and nothing seems to have changed
[05:26] <xiven> It get IP and DNS anyway like I said...just can't do anything
[05:26] <guero> need a restart?
[05:26] <jackaesop> Chumby: can you ctl-alt-f1?
[05:26] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: or I can try hitting an 'X' in the top right corner
[05:26] <kitofhawaii> guero: well, a restart works but since it's broken at the moment...let's see what's not working
[05:27] <ken> help: i am installing edubuntu on machine A, and am going to boot machine B directly from it with a cross cable. the point is i need machine A (server) to also have a usable edubuntu setup. how do i do this?
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: ok, try that, see what happens
[05:27] <kitofhawaii> guero: if you ifconfig and iwconfig from terminal, do you see your wireless nic?
[05:27] <Chumby> hey... jacksop... some success... I can see a login screen with graphics now....
[05:27] <ken> someone?
[05:27] <Spzatt> how do i install MSN on ubuntu ?
[05:27] <Spzatt> !msn
[05:27] <aolaus> kitofhawaii: wouldn't he be able to get the wireless working by going to sleep and coming back at this point?
[05:27] <jackaesop> Chumby: oohh, resolution look right?
[05:27] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[05:28] <ken> !amsn
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: Sweet, the GRUB loaded again, so try the second one?
[05:28] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: well, since hte first didn't work, thats what i would do.
[05:28] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every row two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[05:28] <aolaus> !gaim
[05:28] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[05:28] <Chumby> resolution looks OK... but refresh looks bad... lines running through the icon etc... what do i type in here to get in?
[05:28] <kitofhawaii> aolaus: well it appears the standby/resume scripts aren't working properly...i'm wondering if the interfaces are there now at all (all the resume script does is ifup anything that's down)
[05:28] <guero> kitofhawaii: ifconfig shows a lot of text while iwconfig tells me that lo and eth0 have no wireless extensions while eth1 shows my current connection
[05:28] <IndyGunFreak> aolaus: it supports a few more clients than that now.
[05:29] <ziggy> how do i get under the root account ?
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> !root | ziggy
[05:29] <ubotu> ziggy: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:29] <xiven> Why would Ubuntu get IP and DNS, but not be able to ping?
[05:29] <kitofhawaii> guero: ok so eth1 shows up in iwconfig, but do you see eth1 under ifconfig?
[05:29] <JamoSmith> is there a button I can hold or something to force ubuntu into safe mode. I am having graphix problems
[05:29] <owen1> anyone uses e17/enlighment?
[05:29] <guero> kitofhawaii: yes i do
[05:29] <Palionu> I have a game that requires xml support, how do I attain this?
[05:29] <frost0> MasterShrek, thx for help.
[05:29] <jackaesop> Chumby: you might be able to fix that from within gnome with the display manager thingie
[05:30] <K_Dallas> JamoSmith, when you boot in, get into the GRUB menu, it hs a safe option
[05:30] <aolaus> IndyGunFreak: do you know how to get ident working with gaim/pidgin?
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> ident?  never heard of it.
[05:30] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: Nice! Vista loaded what seems to be normal.  Boot back into Ubuntu now?
[05:30] <kitofhawaii> guero: when you right click the network manager applet, do you see enable wireless and does it have a check next to it?
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: yes, boot back to ubuntu
[05:30] <jackaesop> Chumby: do want to try to get the intel driver working with that edid package?
[05:30] <JamoSmith> K_Dallas: THX
[05:30] <K_Dallas> mp
[05:31] <Chumby> ok... cool thanks heaps jacksop.  what is the display manager?
[05:31] <guero> kitofhawaii: when i right click i see enable wired networking and that has a check on it
[05:31] <guero> but no wirelss
[05:31] <guero> *wireless
[05:31] <zbadone> I run both a desktop system as well as a server, both Gutsy boxes, both with same R8169 gigabit NIC's, desktop NIC works server dosen't, even swapped NIC around, same error? any ideas?
[05:32] <Weng> So I just noticed that the gnome metapackage apparently isn't dependent upon xorg
[05:32] <xiven> Is there an answer to my question?
[05:32] <bruenig> Weng, it isn't dependent on coreutils either or the kernel, whatever are we to do?
[05:32] <xiven> Or is it unknown?
[05:32] <kitofhawaii> guero: you shouldn't see "wired networking"...just to confirm it says "enable network" or "wired networking"?  wired networking at least for me shows up when i left click
[05:33] <jackaesop> Chumby: I'm not running gnome so I'm not exactly sure where it is, but look at the top right->system->admin...?
[05:33] <Palionu> whoops, wrong channel
[05:33] <kramer3d> asses
[05:33] <kram_> N TIDDIES
[05:33] <Chumby> Thanks heaps jacksop - I will have a play around with it. You have been a great help!!!!
[05:33] <naiv> hi, anyone got a 8600GTS here ?
[05:33] <astro76> !language | kramerq
[05:33] <ubotu> kramerq: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <guero> kitofhawaii: when i right-click it displays 'enable networking' and the 'about' option
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> !anyone | naiv
[05:34] <ubotu> naiv: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:34] <astro76> !language | kram_
[05:34] <Chumby> I was getting ready for the complete uninstall - you have saved me!
[05:34] <ubotu> kram_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <mikedoty2> I'm still having trouble with opengl.  I've tried nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-new, and I even installed the nvidia binary from nvidia's site (I have GeForce4 MX) which really screwed things up.  I reinstalled xubuntu and am back where I started, using nvidia-glx.
[05:34] <jackaesop> Chumby: glad i could help. have fun!
[05:34] <bullgard4> lastlog bullgard4
[05:34] <guero> at first it displayed the 'enable wireless' option but now it doesn't and that's why I'm here
[05:34]  * IndyGunFreak wonders where ubotu learned to type so fast
[05:34] <mikedoty2> Previously I used ubuntu/gnome, and I believe it was the legacy driver that worked fine with opengl.  The legacy driver now doesn't do me much good, though; it won't even let me run 1024x768.
[05:35] <Chumby> I am totally new to LINUX jacksop but it all looks great!
[05:35] <zbadone> I run both a desktop system as well as a server, both Gutsy boxes, both with same R8169 gigabit NIC's, desktop NIC works server dosen't, even swapped NIC around, same error? any ideas?
[05:35] <Weng> bruenig: Well, technically it doesn't need either of those, since X can run on multiple platforms which may or may not even be Linux.
[05:35] <jeremyb> astro76: how about abbreviations like "wtf"?
[05:35] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: In Ubuntu, what to do now?
[05:35] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every lin  two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[05:35] <mikedoty2> What can I do to get opengl to work properly in light of these events?
[05:35] <jackaesop> Chumby: yeah, it's almost a love affair with me. just so cool!
[05:35] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: open a terminal, type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:35] <naiv> hi, anyone got a 8600GTS here ? my computer crashes after 5-30min of playing with nexiuz, i'd want a person to look if it's the same for her
[05:35] <kitofhawaii> guero: try "sudo ifdown -a" then "sudo ifup -a" (it'll disconnect you from here if you're using a wired connection)
[05:35] <xiven> Has anyone heard of my issue before?
[05:36] <kitofhawaii> guero: if that works, then i have a workaround for you
[05:36] <astro76> jeremyb, also not allowed in here :O
[05:36] <Chumby> do you use windows at all - or can you do everything you wnat though LINUX?
[05:36] <jackaesop> Chumby: rember where you changed that driver line, and the package you want to install... read-edid.
[05:36] <jeremyb> wt*?! :(  *runs away*
[05:36] <jackaesop> Chumby: I had a foot in both worlds for a couple of years, but completely left windows behind a little over a year ago...
[05:36] <Chumby> ok... how do I do that install again...I'll write it down
[05:36] <Strike[]> hey K_Dallas, this might be a stupid question, but why does your hostmask have i=K_Dallas, when most have n=<name> ?
[05:37] <musashi> xiven, what issue are you having?
[05:37] <heatmzzr> Chumby, I just put Ubuntu on my laptop. Just got rid of windows.
[05:37] <Weng> Chumby: I've encountered very few things that I can't do under Linux. BIOS hacking with specialized tools, for instance. But in every day life, Linux will do you just fine.
[05:37] <heatmzzr> little nervous
[05:37] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: figure it out?
[05:37] <jackaesop> Chumby: from the command line: sudo apt-get install read-edid
[05:37] <Chumby> thanks for the encouragement there guys
[05:37] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: it asked me for a [sudo] password
[05:37] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: right, enter your passwrod
[05:37] <guero> kitofhawaii: so far it's showing a lot of text and it's 'sending' a lot
[05:37] <CaRtz> is there another way to start an adsl connection without going to thet terminal and typing "sudo pon dsl-provider" ? like the one in windows where i could just place a shortcut in the desktop and double click it whenever i need to connect.
[05:38] <jackaesop> Chumby: to edit that file again, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:38] <guero> kitofhawaii: and now it's stopped
[05:38] <Chumby> got it Jacksop... thx.  What does that line actually mean, word by word?
[05:38] <jackaesop> Chumby: you can replace nano with gedit if your in gnome
[05:38] <mean-jean> can anyone help me installing flashplayer9?
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo | michaelpatterson
[05:38] <ubotu> michaelpatterson: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <kitofhawaii> guero: you did both...?
[05:38] <xiven> mushashi> I have an IP and DNS,ect...but I can't ping anything, and can't connect to anything.
[05:38] <kumar> quit
[05:38] <jackaesop> Chumby: sudo - "super user do" gives admin privilages to what comes next
[05:38] <kitofhawaii> guero: the ifdown -a and the ifup -a
[05:38] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: cool, its up...?
[05:39] <musashi> xiven, wired or wireless? how do you know you have an IP?
[05:39] <Chumby> ok .. and apt-get?
[05:39] <guero> kitofhawaii: yes sorry I did both
[05:39] <xiven> wired, up to the Wireless Modemn.
[05:39] <jackaesop> Chumby: apt-get is the command line interface to aptitude, there is also a graphical interface synaptic in your admin tools.
[05:39] <guero> *sorry for the delay
[05:39] <Chumby> ok ... i get it...
[05:39] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: ok, there should be a bunch of stuff in there to customize grub, but what you're looking for, is scroll down to the very bottom, and you should see your menu entries(1 gutsy kernel, 1 gutsy safe mode kernel, memtest, and 2 vista entries)...
[05:39] <jackaesop> Chumby: aptitude is the package manager,
[05:39] <xiven> I checked ifconfig, and I have a correct IP address..and it shows nameservers/DNS correctly too.
[05:40] <jackaesop> Chumby: i found read-edid by searching with: apt-cache search edid
[05:40] <ziggy> ok well i read up on this and its asking me to come to you i'm trying to install cpanel on my pc but its acting like i don't have root accsess
[05:40] <kitofhawaii> guero: "sudo killall nm-applet" then alt-f2, "nm-applet" (last ditch effort)
[05:40] <musashi> xiven, wireless modem? you mean for like wireless internet service?
[05:40] <xiven> Yes.
[05:40] <ziggy> ok well i read up on this and its asking me to come to you i'm trying to install cpanel on my pc but its acting like i don't have root accsess
[05:40] <Chumby> thanks again... funny thing happened as I was typiong this in... fuzzy lines just stopped on Linux machine has started to download updates
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: see it
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[05:40] <xiven> Wireless Internet Service, but wired connection until the Modem.
[05:40] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: yes sir
[05:40] <kitofhawaii> guero: if that doesn't work unfortunately nm-applet's not seeing your wifi, even though it's there.
[05:41] <xiven> The Modem's wireless receiving is the only Wireless part to my internet
[05:41] <jackaesop> Chumby: the graphics problem went away?
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: ok, now if i recall, you said the second one worked, so in front of the first one, where it says "Title".. WIndows Vista, whatever.. put a # sign.
[05:41] <guero> kitofhawaii: no it didn't work
[05:41] <musashi> xiven, do you know the internal ip of the modem like for setting up and such?
[05:41] <guero> thanks you
[05:41] <ziggy> ok well i read up on this and its asking me to come to you i'm trying to install cpanel on my pc but its acting like i don't have root accsess
[05:41] <ziggy> Help please
[05:41] <xiven> What do you mean the internal IP for the Modem?
[05:41] <Chumby> it seems to have... looks like i have a normal 800*600 res screen
[05:41] <astro76> !repeat | ziggy
[05:41] <ubotu> ziggy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:41] <xiven> I get an IP from my router.
[05:41] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: cool, it reads #title    Windows vista...blah
[05:41] <jackaesop> Chumby: is 800x600 what it's supposed to be?
[05:41] <kitofhawaii> guero: i'd go with rebooting at that point...have you tried hibernating instead of going into standby? your wlan nic driver doesn't appear to work with standby (i assume this is chronic)
[05:42] <astro76> !sudo | ziggy
[05:42] <ubotu> ziggy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:42] <musashi> xiven, most modem and routers have an ip like 192.168.1.1 or similar for accessing a web set up
[05:42] <shweta> Hallo
[05:42] <xiven> Ohh yeah
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: yep... save the file and exit....  its always best to use the #sign, and not delete entries, just in case you need to retrieve them for some reason, the # sign, tells grub to just ignore it.
[05:42] <xiven> My router's addres is like that
[05:42] <guero> kitofhawaii: thanks i'll try the reboot
[05:42] <Chumby> I dont think so... (1024 * 768) I think I set it to
[05:42] <guero> sorry 4 the trouble
[05:42] <salah> Hi. Can somebody help me get Ubuntu to find the bluetooth hardware in my machine? It simply don't find any devices. This is a Dell D620 laptop
[05:42] <xiven> I tried to ping that, and it said destination host unreachable.
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: in the event for some reason you needed that entry again, you would only go to edit menu.lst again, adn remove the # sign, and it would be back in your list
[05:42] <shweta> Anyone around who can help the Extremely Clueless?
[05:42] <mean-jean> can anyone help me with installing flashplayer9?
[05:42] <musashi> xiven, so is there one for the modem too?
[05:42] <michaelpatterson> IndyGunFreak: cool thanks!
[05:42] <xiven> Umm...I have no idea
[05:43] <astro76> !ask | shweta
[05:43] <ubotu> shweta: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> michaelpatterson: np
[05:43] <jackaesop> Chumby: that is easy to change in the xorg.conf file, but i think you can do it through the gui too. if not you can def change it in xorg.conf
[05:43] <xiven> I believe that everytime I have connected directly to the modem, the IP was the same thing.
[05:43] <musashi> xiven, first step is figure out where the connection dies. could be a router issue, a modem issue an ISP issue or a OS issue
[05:43]  * cafuego grabs the cluebat and edges towards shweta
[05:43] <shweta> eek!
[05:43] <shweta> Arright.  So I recently updated and my wacom tablet no longer works.  Could anyone help me figure out why?
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego: lol
[05:43] <Chumby> ok no probs... what was that command again to edit the file?  I will write it down
[05:43] <alex__> hi, i just installed gentoo on my laptop and my screen is really fuzzy and im stuck on 640x480
[05:44] <shweta> I'm looking here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151 and have tried the suggestions there, and nothing's helping.
[05:44] <shweta> It works like a mouse, not like a tablet.
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> alex__: you do realize this is an Ubuntu support channel... try #gentoo
[05:44] <alex__> er
[05:44] <alex__> i meant ubuntu :)
[05:44] <xiven> I have tried it without the router ,and had the same problem. I have tried reinstalling and nothing changed. and the ISP said that, it should work Out-Of-The-Box.
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> alex__: gentoo has absolutely NO similarities to Ubuntu
[05:44] <jackaesop> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:44] <Gluesticky> This live CD is taking so long to install its not funny
[05:44] <jackaesop> or: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:44] <Gluesticky> maybe 256mb of ram is not enough
[05:44] <alex__> IndyGunFreak: i installed ubuntu, gentoo was my last distro so everything is messed up in my head
[05:45] <godemonite> IS it bad to install in Safe Graphics mode?
[05:45] <mean-jean> Gluesticky; mine took about an hour and a half, amybe longer with 128 mb ram-but it runs pretty good
[05:45] <musashi> i'm assuming you have an internet connection through that modem to something else that you are currently using?
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> Gluesticky: the install page says you need 328.. so you shouldn't be confused
[05:45] <CaRtz> is there another way to start an adsl connection without going to the terminal and typing "sudo pon dsl-provider" ? like the one in windows where i could just place a shortcut in the desktop and double click it whenever i need to connect/dc.
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> Gluesticky: why not use the alternate install CD
[05:45] <Chumby> go it!  Thanks for the help jacksop - I wil play around for a bit now and leave you alone!
[05:45] <jackaesop> Chumby: it should be obvious where the resoultion is defined and how to chang it.
[05:45] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every line two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[05:46] <jackaesop> Chumby: I'm fine, just sitting here watching my wife play zelda and helping you...
[05:46] <musashi> opps, for xiven  i'm assuming you have an internet connection through that modem to something else that you are currently using?
[05:46] <jackaesop> Chumby: if you want to dig in i'll be happy to assist
[05:46] <musashi> xiven, so we know that the modem is set up and working fine with something?
[05:46] <xiven> I am running a Windows boot right now, if thats what you mean.
[05:46] <Weng> By the way, what's the largest number of displays anyone's aware of getting Compiz running nicely on?
[05:47] <Weng> (I'm looking at approximately 9 displays)
[05:47] <buttercups> bullgard4, can you give an example of two timestamps?  usually 1 time stamp,  like Dec 1 20:30:20 in my logs
[05:47] <Chumby> haha... thanks jacksop - I was ment to do the lawns, but it is raining here (hobart, tasmania) so I thought it mat be good to try and fix this....
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> Weng: like 9 different monitors?
[05:47] <kitofhawaii> Weng: that's uh...a lot of monitors :)
[05:47] <musashi> so windows can connect to the router, the router is connected to the modem and the modem is working fine? sorry, but just need to get a picture of what is going on
[05:47] <Weng> Yes, 9 monitors.
[05:47] <bullgard4> buttercups: mom
[05:47] <alex__> hi, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my screen is really fuzzy and im stuck on 640x480... anyone want to help me figure it out?
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> that must be a big freakin desk.,
[05:47] <Gluesticky> mean-jean: I am using the live CD and its taken hours and it is still not installs, even the setup menu's work very slowly for me, it was a hassle just selecting my timezone
[05:47] <jackaesop> Chumby: tasmania! cool!
[05:47] <Gluesticky> maybe it is because of my cd drive?
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> !resolution | alex__
[05:48] <Weng> It's more a room than a desk.
[05:48] <shweta> or very small monitors, IndyGunFreak :)
[05:48] <Chumby> jackaesop.. where are you?
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: lol, i guess that could be tol.
[05:48] <jackaesop> Chumby: I'm in oklahoma city, oklahoma
[05:48] <ubotu> alex__: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> !res | alex__
[05:48] <shweta> Did my question on the wacom tablet get lost, or did I miss someone answering, or does nobody know?
[05:48] <jackaesop> Chumby: US
[05:48] <shweta> I'm Very Clueless and might've just done something stupid while trying to follow directions.
[05:48] <Chumby> OK... nice...yep have heard of the place
[05:49] <xiaobao> ???
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: i have dual 19in screens, and i couldnm't imagine having 3.. of course, when i had 1, i couldn't imagine 2... now i coudln't be w/o it..lol
[05:49] <xiven> You pretty much have it correct.
[05:49] <xiven> Ubuntu's not connecting, even though it has the IP and DNS, is the only issue, to the entire setup
[05:50] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: I'm a 1-monitor kinda gal.  I'm easily confused.  My husband has 2 for his desktop, and it makes me cross-eyed
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:50] <kitofhawaii> xiven: this brand new install?
[05:50] <buttercups> bullgard4, mom is your example?
[05:50] <xiven> Basically
[05:50] <shweta> Me being here is all my husband's fault.  He's the linux guy.  "I'll help you", he says, and then I have a problem and he's off to the gym.  Grr.
[05:50] <Gluesticky> Thats a good one
[05:50] <Weng> See, I have this terrible obsession with screen real estate.
[05:50] <Gluesticky> He is helping you learn!
[05:50] <bullgard4> buttercups: "Dec 9 05:45:03 MD97600 kernel: [65786.900000] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1f.2 disabled"
[05:50] <shweta> heee
[05:50] <xiven> I fresh installed like 3 days ago..but i havent done anything with it, but troubleshoot
[05:51] <kitofhawaii> xiven: "ip route" did it show you the right routes/
[05:51] <xiven> Umm never tried that.
[05:51] <Gluesticky> Nothing beats being thrown into a jungle and letting you fend for yourself
[05:51] <musashi> xiven, it's going to be kind of hard to troubleshoot if you are running windows now - unless it's a diferent computer.
[05:51] <xiven> NOt even sure I'd know how to read that
[05:52] <shweta> Gluesticky: I think I'm failing the learning experience so far.  I can't do anything to make this damn tablet work as a real tablet.  It's clearly working as an input device, only... not the right kind of input device.
[05:52] <kitofhawaii> xiven: that'll show your routing table, so if that shows a) your local subnet to your router and b) a default route to your router, then it'd be the next step to check
[05:52] <shweta> The pen is not tracking unless it's actually touching the tablet, so it's acting like a bad mouse.
[05:52] <xiven> okay.
[05:52] <shweta> I'm not really a computer geek, I'm an art geek, and all I can say is, this is no use for drawing...
[05:52] <SpookyET> I unintalled tracker. How do you make nautilus to use classic slow search or use google desktop
[05:52] <xiven> Let me reboot and check it
[05:52] <owen1> how can i change my keysettings to dvorak in e17/enlighment?
[05:52] <buttercups> bullgard4, thats 1 timestamp, Dec 9 05:45:03 = Dec 9 5:45 A.M
[05:52] <kitofhawaii> xiven: like mine shows "192.168.253.0/24 dev wlan0" and "default via 192.168.253.1 dev wlan0"
[05:52] <Gluesticky> Er so what is it actually doing?
[05:52] <SpookyET> Right now it gives an error if i want to search for something
[05:52] <kitofhawaii> xiven: wait wait! ahh...i had more troubleshooting steps
[05:53] <shweta> Gluesticky: me? :hopeful look:
[05:53] <bullgard4> buttercups: No there are two. The other one is [65786.900000].
[05:53] <Gluesticky> Ok maybe you should stick to other tablets
[05:53] <xiaobao> what are u doing?
[05:53] <musashi> kitofhawaii, keep going. maybe i can learn something :)
[05:53] <Gluesticky> I am not sure if tablet notebooks are up to that standard yet
[05:54] <Weng> gogo gadget kernel panic!
[05:54] <shweta> Gluesticky: I've been using this (wacom, intuos 3, USB connection) for 2 years now.  It worked before.
[05:54] <Gluesticky> oh right
[05:54] <shweta> It worked on my old computer, which ran Debian, and it started out workin gon the new computer, which is running ubuntu
[05:54] <shweta> Until I hit yes on updates.
[05:54] <kitofhawaii> musashi: lol well we use traceroute at that point to check...first local nic, second to the router, then beyond the router.
[05:54] <shweta> And then, as far as I can tell, it Suddenly Stopped Working.
[05:54] <Gluesticky> What kind of PC notebook is it I am curious
[05:55] <Gluesticky> I always wanted to get a tablet notebook
[05:55] <kitofhawaii> musashi: assuming the routing table's remotely correct
[05:55] <shweta> Gluesticky: me?  Not a tablet notebook.  I've got a thinkpad laptop and a USB-connected tablet.
[05:55] <shweta> Tablet notebooks are expensive.
[05:55] <Gluesticky> oh
[05:55] <Gluesticky> Do you think they are any good though
[05:55] <musashi> kitofhawaii, that is kind of what i was hoping to build too but he was running in win so hard to have him do anything. maybe he's rebooting
[05:56] <shweta> Gluesticky: the notebooks or the USB-connected tablet I have?
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: well, scrolling up, i can't find your original question, can you repost it, i'll try to help, but i've never setup a tablet before.
[05:56] <kitofhawaii> i can't stand tablet notebooks...all the ones we have at the office everyone winds up using a usb mouse anyway
[05:56] <Gluesticky> The notebook
[05:56]  * IndyGunFreak hates touchpads... has to use a mouse
[05:56] <musashi> kitofhawaii, although your approach sounds better. mine would have been a hack approach
[05:56] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: thanks :)  The question is, what might be causing my USB-connected wacom tablet to act like a second-rate mouse instead of a tablet
[05:56] <Suncorp> woah, ubuntu kicks arse
[05:56] <Weng> what's the grub syntax for specifying a kernel option again?
[05:57] <shweta> Gluesticky: I've seen some awesome stuff done with a tablet notebook, but not by me.
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: well, that sounds like a xorg error... what model tablet is it?
[05:57] <Gluesticky> It would kick ass on my laptop too if it actually could install instead of waiting around for hours
[05:57] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: Intuos 3, wacom
[05:57] <Gluesticky> Yeah I have seen some of those photoshop video tutorials
[05:57] <CaRtz> Why is there a need to update the kernel?
[05:57] <shweta> Model PTZ-930
[05:57] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I use nautilus to browse files on my cellphone using bluetooth ?
[05:57] <AnAnt> !bluetooth
[05:57] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:58] <shweta> Gluesticky: if you're interested, this is done with the Gimp and my little tablet -- http://shwetambari.deviantart.com/art/Ganesha-playing-trombone-38762211
[05:58] <kitofhawaii> musashi: a hack? :) static addressing?
[05:58] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: I was looking at this page -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[05:59] <Gluesticky> Yeah I should probably read up on gimp, I can use it but nowhere near good
[05:59] <shweta> I did follow steps 1-3
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: ok, and what happened then?
[05:59] <musashi> kitofhawaii, no, just working step by step from nic to router to modem - basically manually doing what traceroute probably does - never used it before
[05:59] <Gluesticky> Hey thats pretty good
[05:59] <shweta> I couldn't figure out step 4, which might be the problem, IndyGunFreak
[05:59] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every line two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[06:00] <shweta> My eyes sort of crossed.
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: adding the lines to the serverlayout section?
[06:00] <shweta> Yeah, I couldn't figure out if I should add the black ones or the blue ones.
[06:00] <kitofhawaii> musashi: traceroute's useful...basically it goes through each step by setting a short TTL to determine where things are going
[06:00] <shweta> (I told you I was clueless)
[06:00] <musashi> kitofhawaii, based on his description i kind of figured the nic wasn't configured and he wasn't clear about what ip he was seeing.
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: lol, i'm guessing the black...
[06:01] <shweta> Also I didn't know if I was doing something that would make my computer explodify, IndyGunFreak, so I wanted a bit of handholding.  Silly as that sounds.
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: probably wouldn't make your computer explode, but if you hose xorg, you'd have to reconfigure it.
[06:01] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: okies.  And it should be fine if I just comment out the unwanted lines, yes?
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: what unwanted lines?..
[06:01] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: if I hose xorg, I'm making my husband reconfigure it. :D
[06:01] <Gluesticky> Too much Die hard 4
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:01] <musashi> kitofhawaii, yeah, i'm looking at the syntax now :(. if he comes back i watch and learn
[06:02] <kitofhawaii> musashi: yah i kind of broke in a little late, but taking him at his word (though ip route'll determine if the right information's in there)
[06:02] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: mind if I pm you?  I don't want to post xorg blorp into the channel proper, and dunno how else to explain what may be my completely wrong understanding
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: you can only pm if your nick is registered...
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | shweta
[06:02] <ubotu> shweta: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:03]  * IndyGunFreak thinks RedHat- is lost.. ;)
[06:03] <kitofhawaii> redhat as joined ubuntu...hmm...i'd have to switch to suse :)
[06:03] <RedHat-> hello
[06:03] <musashi> kitofhawaii, curious. i tried the ip route to see what it would do and it shows 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth1  scope link  metric 1000 in addition to the stuff i expected. what is that 169 address?
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> kitofhawaii: lol, i think he missed his floor on the elevator,
[06:04]  * IndyGunFreak hates RH based distros
[06:04] <RedHat-> hello
[06:04] <Strike[]> hi !
[06:04] <kitofhawaii> musashi: the default self-addressing. 169.254 addresses are default locally assigned addresses (they don't route) and wide enough for interfaces to just randomly pick an address (kinda like poor man's dhcp without a dhcp server)
[06:05] <RedHat-> i`m using ubuntu desktop 7.10.. why i can compile my ircd?
[06:05] <musashi> IndyGunFreak, but they have yum. that sounds so delicious
[06:05] <RedHat-> i`m using ubuntu desktop 7.10.. why i cannot compile my ircd?
[06:05] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47501/
[06:05] <shweta> Also, the paste thing is awesome.
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: ya, that looks right.
[06:05] <shweta> The pastebin.  Is it an easy thing to set up?  I can think of another channel (a writers' channel) that could use a pastebin.
[06:06] <musashi> kitofhawaii, okay. didn't know there was something else behind the scenes. figured it was all 192.
[06:06] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: oh good.  Thanks :)
[06:06] <RedHat-> aloo
[06:06] <RedHat-> help me please.. ;)
[06:06]  * shweta adds the step 5 lines in black
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> RedHat-: ask your question...
[06:06] <shweta> um, step 4
[06:06] <RedHat-> i`m using ubuntu desktop 7.10.. why i cannot compile my ircd?
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> RedHat-: i don't know, why can't you?
[06:06] <kitofhawaii> musashi: yah, if you have another address (192.168.x.x for example) it doesn't use the 169.254 route. it's a fallback defined in ipv4
[06:07] <jackaesop> Chumby: fyi, you can restart the graphical server with ctl-alt-backspace, do this after you edit that file and save
[06:07] <kahrytan> !repeat | RedHat-
[06:07] <ubotu> RedHat-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: what about step 4?
[06:07] <JamoSmith> I downloaded a .run file from ATI's website (a latest driver) when I try to execute it via firefox it says it can't be ran. How do I execute this file :)
[06:07] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: I meant step 4, step 5 being "reboot".  Typoed, sorry
[06:07] <Arrick> !ssh
[06:07] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: oh, ok.
[06:07] <musashi> kitofhawaii, ah, cool. i almost finished the day without learning something new :)
[06:07] <kahrytan> JamoSmith,  In file properties
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: before you reboot.
[06:08] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: Yessir?
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: before you reboot, i would familiarize yourself witht he reconfigure xserver command, in case you screwed something up.
[06:08] <kitofhawaii> musashi: lol well then glad i did something useful today :-P
[06:09] <musashi> kitofhawaii, doubt it was your first
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <shweta> okie
[06:09] <shweta> What's that do?
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> just in case something gets wonked up to the po0int xorg won't load, thats the command to run from recoverymode to fix it(just take generic defaults)
[06:09] <kitofhawaii> musashi: you're right...i did laundry. that's pretty useful :)
[06:09] <musashi> lol
[06:10] <DaveyJ> happy birthday to me motherfuckers
[06:10] <SpookyET> How do you enable gnome search tool in nautilus instead of tracker?
[06:11] <nadio> How do i display the size of /usr ?
[06:11] <JamoSmith> what do I open the .run file with?
[06:11] <SpookyET> I know that if you had beagle installed it would go back to it after deleting ".beagle." i deleted ".cache" but nothing
[06:11] <Arrick> howto add the new user to sudoers kevin__ ?
[06:11] <Arrick> sorry, wrong channel
[06:11] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every row two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[06:12] <onats> anyone here familiar with firestarter? my local copy just quits without prompting any error messages every 5 minutes
[06:12] <musashi> okay, i tried helping someone else so my karma should be good.... i have an encrypted external drive that was set up under a previous install. I installed cryptsetup again but when the drive is connected it asks for a password and then does nothing. what do i need to do to get it to actually mount? i think i added it to the /dev/mapper but maybe i did something wrong.
[06:12] <owen1> how to switch keyboard layout from the command line?
[06:13] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: Thanks!  I'll hopefully be back soon to say that I didn't kill xorg and my tablet magically works :)
[06:15] <kitofhawaii> musashi: after typing the password, "sudo fdisk -l" does it show up?
[06:15] <bullgard4> What is the chmod command syntax to give read right to a file to the current user?
[06:15] <astro76> bullgard4, chmod u+rw
[06:15] <kitofhawaii> musashi: and "df" check see if there's any new mountpoints you don't recognize
[06:15] <shweta> It works!
[06:15]  * shweta high-fives IndyGunFreak 
[06:15] <shweta> Thank you :)
[06:16] <Ttech> Hi
[06:16] <musashi> kitofhawaii, it shows up but it also shows up before typing the password.
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: lol, don't thank me, thankt he guy who wrote the FAQ..
[06:16] <shweta> It's aliiive.
[06:16] <kitofhawaii> musashi: what about under df?
[06:16] <musashi> kito, i.e. it's seen but doesn't mount
[06:16] <Ttech> I have an issue with the Wireless drivers on Ubuntu 7.10, mainly, the wifi icon my my latop does not turn on or off anymore.
[06:16] <shweta> My husband just came home.  He goes "It works?  Good.  Well, you know where to go next time you have problems."  Heartless sob.  Grmph.
[06:16] <musashi> kitofhawaii, actually, df doesn't see it
[06:16]  * shweta grins
[06:16] <Ttech> This is a  big probelm because the wireless notifcation thing still shows wifi as on when it is not
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> shweta: lol
[06:17] <Ttech> How do I fix that?
[06:17] <JamoSmith> what do I + Add to the 'Open With' screen of a .run file to open it. lofl
[06:17] <shweta> IndyGunFreak: so thanks to the guy who wrote the FAQ, and thank you for helping with my clulessness and holding my hand and making sure I didn't make anything go explodey.  :nodnod:
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:17] <shweta> And I'm off to draw now.
[06:17] <musashi> kitofhawaii, it's labeled /dev/sde with two partitions sde1 is just a fat32 and sde2 is the encrypted. only sde1 shows on df
[06:17] <Ttech> Anyone?
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> have fun
[06:18] <shweta> Will do. Bye!
[06:18] <JamoSmith> so hard to run a file I downloaded :|
[06:18] <[n0c]> what is the syntax for scp?
[06:18] <bullgard4> astro76: Your answer is not correct. Ubuntu responds now: "You have not the required rights to open this file."
[06:18] <Ttech> Can anyone tell me now to get the Wifi icon to work?
[06:19] <astro76> bullgard4, come on now it's at least partially correct... of course if the current user does not already own the file, you need sudo chown user
[06:21] <Ttech> anyone?
[06:21] <astro76> !wireless
[06:21] <gadren> what is it, Ttech?
[06:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:21] <kitofhawaii> musashi: http://feraga.com/library/howto_use_cryptsetup_with_luks_support_0 dunno much about crypt so hope that helps (check section on mounting existing encrypted container)
[06:21] <mnemonica> Ok. Need halps. I'm currently in irssi, I can't get to pastebin but I need to paste a couple of lines of text so someone can try and help me figure out what is going on. Is that possible?
[06:22] <Ttech> gadren astro76: Its the icon on my laptop lid, it does not work
[06:22] <Ttech> does not light up when wifi is on like it is supposed to
[06:22] <jackaesop> mnemonica: if it's just a few lines then it's not a problem to paste in the channel
[06:22] <musashi> kitofhawaii, thanks. i'll check it out. fwiw, i used this how to when i first set it up. http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/17/7-steps-to-an-encrypted-partition-local-or-removable-disk/ now with a new install i gotta figure out how to access it again :)
[06:22] <bazhang> Ttech: what computer?
[06:22] <astro76> Ttech, does wifi work otherwise?
[06:22] <mnemonica> jackaesop: It's eight lines, to be exact.
[06:23] <jackaesop> mnemonica: are you in the terminal without X? there is a great CLI browser you could use...
[06:23] <jackaesop> mnemonica: sudo apt-get install elinks
[06:23] <mnemonica> Yes, gdm doesn't load... issue.
[06:23] <astro76> !info pastebinit | mnemonica
[06:23] <ubotu> mnemonica: pastebinit: command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:23] <Ttech> Yes the Wifi Works, but the idsable wifi keycommand works too, so if you disable Wifi using the command,m it does not notify you, it still trys to connecto r says no wifi found, I have to use the ocmmand line to check
[06:23] <jackaesop> mnemonica: or links might already be installed, I think 8 lines is probably rude to paste into the channel...
[06:23] <Ttech> Its quite important since the wifi icon in Ubuntu is a bit wacky with the key command
[06:24] <Ttech> its a dell Inspiron 6000
[06:24] <SpookyET> How do you remove Tracker from nautilus?
[06:24] <bazhang> Ttech: in thinkpads there is a tool for this--not so sure about dells though
[06:25] <mnemonica> url for pastebin?
[06:25] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: what exactly is not working?
[06:25] <jackaesop> ubotu: thats awesome!
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thats awesome! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <bazhang> a light
[06:25] <Ttech> the wifi light on my laptop
[06:25] <Ttech> jackaesop: ubotu is a bot.
[06:25] <michaelpatterson> How do I install/activate the security updates after installing 7.10 for the first time (now that I'm on my network)?
[06:25] <mnemonica> url for pastebin?
[06:25] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: are you manually using iwconfig <int> essid <sid> key <key>?
[06:26] <gadren> michaelpatterson: have you uncommented your apt sources?
[06:26] <jackaesop> i always wanted a robot for a friend, ever since i was 8
[06:26] <Ttech> No olny to see if the wifi is on or not. Is there  a way I can write or have someone write the app and using somehting like iwconfig to chekc if wifi card is eanbled and turn on the light
[06:26] <michaelpatterson> gadren: I don't know what that is?
[06:26] <astro76> michaelpatterson, it should already be set and you will start receiving update notifications, or you could go to system > admin > update manager and click check
[06:26] <jackaesop> mnemonica: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:26] <mnemonica> jackaesop: Thank you.
[06:27] <gadren> thanks, astro76 :)
[06:27] <jackaesop> mnemonica: no prob.
[06:27] <michaelpatterson> haha, thanks guys.  I already did that.  I wasn't sure if that's all there was to it
[06:27] <gadren> haven't used gnome in a while, so i forgot about that
[06:27] <matrix0a> hi pals, im just installed ubuntu 7.10; im trying to compile a little prog using gcc, but im receiving some warnings adn errors, could anyone help me?
[06:27] <kitofhawaii> ttech: so you're trying to see the light on your laptop for the wifi. that depends on the driver, some don't show the light
[06:27] <astro76> gadren, no prob, fyi 7.10 now has all repos including universe and multiverse enabled by default
[06:27] <gadren> i might be able to help, matrix0a (might :P)
[06:28] <gadren> what are the errors?
[06:28] <matrix0a> warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘exit’
[06:28] <matrix0a> 0: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[06:28] <matrix0a> that kind of erros
[06:29] <Ttech> Hi
[06:29] <andymushu> hi
[06:29] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: so you're trying to see the light on your laptop for the wifi. that depends on the driver, some don't show the light (resending since you left)
[06:29] <Ttech> So, did I miss anything? My laptop power died.
[06:29] <matrix0a> what i must do?
[06:29] <Ttech> Thanks
[06:29] <Ttech> Ah, is there anyway I can get this to work?
[06:29] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: are you using ndiswrapper...or...?
[06:30] <musashi> kitofhawaii, i think this is the issue -->  special device /dev/mapper/data does not exist -- i guess i'm not getting it added to /dev/mapper
[06:30] <matrix0a> you see it gadren ?
[06:30] <gadren> matrix0a: are these "stow-stopping" errors?
[06:30] <kitofhawaii> musashi: makes sense :)
[06:30] <gadren> show*
[06:30] <Ttech> ndiswrapper
[06:30] <Ttech> out of the box
[06:30] <andymushu> ttech what's wrong?
[06:30] <gadren> that is, do they prevent compilation, or are they just warnings?
[06:30] <Ttech> The wifi light
[06:30] <Ttech> doesn not work
[06:30] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: try a different device driver...win98 if you can find it
[06:31] <kanuha> what is the best program to use to delete and resize partitions?
[06:31] <Ttech> Huh?
[06:31] <andymushu> my laptop wifi light was acting strange until i compiled ndiswrapper
[06:31] <astro76> !gparted | kanuha
[06:31] <ubotu> kanuha: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:31] <Ttech> I only use XP before thsi
[06:31] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: what chipset is your wifi card using?
[06:31] <Ttech> Well it does not work atall
[06:31] <andymushu> the precompiled ndiswrapper didn't work
[06:31] <Ttech> :(
[06:31] <Ttech> WEll,
[06:31] <kitofhawaii> Ttech: ok...what type of card is it? do you know the chipset?
[06:32] <Ttech> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[06:32] <musashi> kitofhawaii, but -- sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sde2 data -- returns "successful" so i don't know what i'm missing
[06:32] <matrix0a> gadren, they prevent compilation, the output object isnt generated
[06:32] <kanuha> astro76, thx, I installed gparted, but was unable to do anything to the partition Ubuntu was active on. The live CD should solve that.
[06:32] <bazhang> I'm happy when a laptop gets wireless at all
[06:32] <Ttech> I get wifi, but the light is not wokring
[06:33] <kitofhawaii> musashi: yah...i dunno, i don't use encryption unfortunately at least not with cryptsetup so i dunno (out of my league)
[06:33] <andymushu> ttech: have you compiled ndiswrapper yourself?
[06:33] <gadren> matrix0a: does the code have #include <stdlib.h> ?
[06:33] <Ttech> No
[06:33] <Ttech> Is there a driver for that
[06:33] <Ttech> ?
[06:33] <Ttech> my card?
[06:33] <andymushu> ttech: that is what worked for me when i had the same issue
[06:33] <MasterShrek> intel 2200 is supported, you dont need ndiswrapper for that
[06:33] <musashi> kitofhawaii, no worries. just helps to share my pain :)
[06:33] <matrix0a> gadren, i try to quit the include directives, but still the warnings for strcpy and exit stoping the generate of the object
[06:33] <Ttech> Is there any other way?
[06:33] <Arrick> !static ip
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Ttech> I'm not good at compling
[06:33] <Arrick> !static
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <astro76> kanuha, yeah, the partitions must be unmounted, gparted livecd will help
[06:33] <matrix0a> gadren, yes, but i prove that i tell you too
[06:33] <Arrick> !ip
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Arrick> stupid that the bot doesnt have a link to that
[06:34] <andymushu> ttech: there is an insanely simple site that shows how to do it in like 2 steps. it has a script for it
[06:34] <Arrick> who can show me a static config for a network interface?
[06:34] <andymushu> ttech: i will find it real quick
[06:34] <MasterShrek> Arrick, ifconfig --help
[06:34] <Ttech> Will it work the same if not better?
[06:34] <Arrick> thanks
[06:34] <matrix0a> gadren, maybe for this program i can prove o delete the headers directives, but i need these function for the future in more complex program from now
[06:34] <Ttech> Can I distroy my system doing this?
[06:35] <bazhang> might lose your wireless Ttech
[06:35] <andymushu> ttech: sorry, the guide was for a different chipset
[06:35] <Ttech> :(
[06:35] <Ttech> Hmm.
[06:35] <Arrick> MasterShrek, that doesnt give an example, it gives all the differnt commands that can be done with ifconfig
[06:35] <gadren> matrix0a: heh, i think this is going over my head, but i'm reading that you might want to try -fno-builtin-exit as one of your parameters
[06:36] <Ttech> I'm going to talk to Dell, they have the PReinstal stuff with Ubuntu
[06:36] <Ttech> got to have a fix
[06:36] <MasterShrek> Arrick, yes, and you use some of those to set a static ip
[06:36] <andymushu> ttech: i'll search for your chipset real quick
[06:36] <matrix0a> gadren, i just installed ubuntu 7.10, i downloaded it from the ubuntu site, how can i be sure that the ubuntu default installation have this headers and else...
[06:36] <Juli> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:36] <kitofhawaii> Arrick: temporary or permanent?
[06:36] <Arrick> MasterShrek, you edit /etc/network/interfaces to set a static ip
[06:36] <Arrick> I know that, i cant remember the setup though
[06:36] <Arrick> kitofhawaii, permanent
[06:37] <Ttech> ok
[06:37] <matrix0a> gadren, wait a second im going to pastebin this simple code...
[06:37] <kitofhawaii> Arrick: you have to do that under /etc/network/interfaces
[06:37] <bazhang> Ttech: the dell folks have been just slapping ubuntu on their laptops--seriously doubt that they will help you more than here
[06:37] <Arrick> yeah, I need the setup of that page for a single static kiti
[06:37] <xiven> Okay..I'm back
[06:38] <Arrick> kitofhawaii, ^
[06:38] <Ttech> andymushu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Intel_4965_AGN_WiFi_Driver/Fiesty?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[06:38] <Ttech> I got a warrenty
[06:38] <Ttech> :)
[06:38] <xiven> The 'ip route' command gave me 192.168.1.0/24, 169.xxx.x.x, and 127.0.0.1
[06:38] <xiven> Seems to me, that the 169, should also be a 168
[06:39] <musashi> kitofhawaii, hey, figured it out, sort of. i just mounted the luks_crypto_blah and it worked. i guess the problem is that it's not recognizing the short name.
[06:39] <andymushu> ttech: that guide looks good. if that doesn't work, i found a forum thread with your exact issue and chipset
[06:40] <andymushu> i'll keep looking through it
[06:40] <kitofhawaii> Arrick: "man interfaces" it'll explain it for you
[06:40] <Arrick> thanks
[06:40] <xiven> kitofhawaii> Did you get my post?
[06:41] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every line two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[06:41] <kitofhawaii> xiven: the 169 route is fine...
[06:41] <kitofhawaii> xiven: did you have a "default" route?
[06:41] <heatmzzr> can the switchable desktops contain different backgrounds?
[06:41] <nickrud> heatmzzr, sadly, no
[06:42] <xiven> yeah
[06:42] <kitofhawaii> xiven: also, is 192.168.1.0 your home network?
[06:42] <xiven> 192.168.1.1
[06:42] <Arrick> !screen
[06:42] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[06:42] <heatmzzr> thanks nickrud
[06:42] <Chumby> jackaesop - are you still around?
[06:42] <matrix0a> gadren, look: http://pastebin.com/m2384a8ab
[06:42] <xiven> every computer behind my router should have a 192.168.1.x ip address
[06:42] <kitofhawaii> xiven: yah you left a bit soon...i had some more things for you to try...are you unable to ping 192.168.1.1?
[06:42] <andymushu> ttech: i found this on that forum thread. looks like it should work, but i suggest making a backup of the file first, just in case
[06:42] <andymushu> echo "options ipw2200 led=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/options
[06:42] <xiven> Yeah it always says destination unreachable
[06:43] <kitofhawaii> xiven: what about if you ping yourself?
[06:43] <kitofhawaii> xiven: whatever the address is you get from ifconfig...
[06:43] <jackaesop> Chumby: still here, how's it going?
[06:43] <gadren> matrix0a: wait, why exactly are your includes commented out?
[06:43] <matrix0a> gadren, why this simple prog doesnt compile?
[06:43] <rabi> Hi everybody.
[06:43] <xiven> I can ping 127.0.0.1
[06:43] <andymushu> hi rabi
[06:43] <scguy318> matrix0a: well, what's the build error?
[06:43] <mnemonica> Ok, I just tried to pastebin using elinks from console and it didn't work.
[06:43] <scguy318> xiven: that's my IP address! :P
[06:43] <matrix0a> gadren, for proving man, with and without they
[06:43] <xiven> I cannot ping my own IP from the router though
[06:43] <Chumby> getting through it mate... haven't rebooted yet - just doing the settings.  Do you use evolution nfor mail?
[06:44] <andymushu> what's pastebin?
[06:44] <mnemonica> Can I post eight lines in here? I know it's rude, but I don't know what else to do.
[06:44] <scguy318> !pastebin | andymushu, mnemonica
[06:44] <ubotu> andymushu, mnemonica: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:44] <Ttech> I'm going to do a full backup andymushu
[06:44] <rabi> I am facing problem while setting Hotmail POP3, can anybody help me? (I am using hotway)
[06:44] <scguy318> mnemonica: uhm, probably not
[06:44] <kitofhawaii> xiven: what about pinging your own IP from the router...the 192.168.1.x address your machine has.
[06:44] <mnemonica> For goodness' sake, then can someone make another chanel or something and help me out?
[06:44] <Ttech> thanks
[06:44] <andymushu> ttech: you mean a full backup of your whole install?
[06:44] <scguy318> !ask | rabi
[06:44] <ubotu> rabi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:44] <mnemonica> I can't even get into gdm
[06:44] <nickrud> mnemonica, install pastebinit , it will paste from a console
[06:45] <kitofhawaii> xiven: i mean..your own IP from your computer. sorry was reading your post as i typed
[06:45] <larson9999> phooey, put a pc together, went to install gutsy and the cd hangs
[06:45] <matrix0a> gadren, the build error? there are warnings, i put them in the pastebin
[06:45] <rabi> scguy318: how to properly setup hotway in ubuntu gusty?
[06:45] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i transfer music to a phillips mp3 player
[06:45] <jackaesop> nickrud: i just tried to install pastebinit and couldn't get it to work... have you had success with this?
[06:45] <andymushu> ttech: i don't think a full system backup is necessary here, if that's what you meant
[06:45] <scguy318> rabi: well, what's the issue you're encountering?
[06:45] <Ttech> I'm going to anyway, :D
[06:45] <Ttech> Just in case. :)
[06:45] <nanbud1> i just discovered that my /home/myusername/Document folder contains another 'home' folder. how is that? and /home/myusername/Document/myTiddlies contains het another 'home' folder. is it by design or by corruption?
[06:45] <andymushu> ttech: i think a simple copying of the modprobe file would be quite sufficient
[06:46] <kitofhawaii> xiven: did you give your nic a static address?
[06:46] <rabi> scguy318: setting hotmail pop3 in evolution.
[06:46] <david_J> Jay-Oh-En: is it a usb device?
[06:46] <larson9999> sysrescuecd does too :(  and puppy linux.  wonder what i've got dorked up
[06:46] <SingAlong> Hi guys...
[06:46] <nickrud> jackaesop, in the past, yes. I'm reinstalling
[06:46] <SingAlong> I am planning to setup a web server with Slackware. My hardware config is Intel P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB ram and 40GB HDD. And the speed of the internet connection is 256kbps. Will I be able to run a decent web server and sustain a site with about 10 million hits a month?
[06:46] <rabi> scguy318: the package name is hotway.
[06:46] <scguy318> rabi: what guide are you using? i have one
[06:46] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every line two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[06:46] <scguy318> rabi: *a guide
[06:46] <jackaesop> nickrud: thanks, i would like to know how to use this.
[06:46] <andymushu> ttech: did you try that command i posted?
[06:46] <rabi> scguy318: can u give me the guide.
[06:46] <Jay-Oh-En> david_J: yes
[06:46] <ArthurArchnix> lol @ singalong
[06:46] <kitofhawaii> Arrick: there's an easier way for setting up static ip btw, system -> administration -> network
[06:46] <ubuntu> IRC is cool
[06:47] <scguy318> rabi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
[06:47] <gadren> matrix0a: i'm not too familiar with this sort of code, but what happens if the includes aren't commented out?
[06:47] <jackaesop> mnemonica: this is a busy channel, i don't blame these guys for insisting.  8 lines would nearly blow the conversation off the page.
[06:47] <david_J> Jay-Oh-En: do a dmesg | tail -n 50
[06:47] <scguy318> rabi: if you like Thunderbird you can try the Webmail extension
[06:47] <Ttech> andymushu what command?
[06:47] <matrix0a> gadren, ok, wait, look...
[06:47] <SingAlong> I am planning to setup a web server with Ubuntu. My hardware config is Intel P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB ram and 40GB HDD. And the speed of the internet connection is 256kbps. Will I be able to run a decent web server and sustain a site with about 10 million hits a month?
[06:47] <rabi> scguy318: failed, I have also tried based on that.
[06:47] <xiven> No..there is no static address
[06:47] <david_J> Jay-Oh-En: see if the kernel recognizes the device
[06:47] <andymushu> ttech: hold on, i will post it again
[06:47] <andymushu> ttech: it should turn on the wifi led on your computer at boot time
[06:48] <rabi> scguy318: I am now using hotmail pop3 from freepops program, but it doesn't provide the facility of smtp.
[06:48] <david_J> Jay-Oh-En: may have to plug it now and replug
[06:48] <xiven> Jesus this is rediculous..I've been trying to fix this problem for two months
[06:48] <david_J> nout=out
[06:48] <andymushu> ttech: echo "options ipw2200 led=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/options
[06:48] <matrix0a> gadren, ejem, in fact that output is for the uncommented version of the source, i copy the output from the uncommented version
[06:48] <UserUbuntu> Hey, i'm begginer in linux world, and i installed xmms-1.2.11 but i don know how execute, like in windows .exe, anyone may helpme?
[06:48] <andymushu> ttech: just put that into a terminal
[06:48] <mnemonica> How do I use pastebinit?
[06:48] <SingAlong> help please.....
[06:48] <scguy318> UserUbuntu: xmms
[06:48] <scguy318> UserUbuntu: in Terminal, though there probably should be an entry in your Applications menu
[06:48] <kitofhawaii> xiven: is this a wired or wireless connection? i'm sorry it's taken months, hopefully we can fix it today :)
[06:49] <Arrick> kitofhawaii, I wouldnt run a gui as slow as the ubuntu one if my life depended on it, thats why its a server install
[06:49] <Jay-Oh-En> david_J: want me to pastebin.com it?
[06:49] <heatmzzr> I've had Ubuntu as my OS for bout an hour now and I dig it quite a bit, actually thought it would be alot tougher to implement.
[06:49] <Ttech> it does nto work. :(
[06:49] <mnemonica> How do I use pastebinit?
[06:49] <xiven> It is wired, except for the fact that the Modem Receives its signal from the ISP Wirelessly
 thank, you.  it's so easy, i promise i will study linux, a lot!!!!!
[06:49] <david_J> Jay-Oh-En: If you cant read it yourself
[06:49] <kitofhawaii> Arrick: then you're going to need to do it from /etc/network/interfaces ...hope that file helped
[06:49] <UserUbuntu> lololol
[06:49] <andymushu> ttech: did you try to reboot?
[06:49] <jackaesop> mnemonica: i've installed pastebinit and am trying to figure it out too
[06:49] <matrix0a> gadren, the type of program doesnt care, the problem is that it isnt "reconizing" the strcpy and exit functions...
[06:49] <j1solutions> heatmzzr, its all i run at home now, on 5 machines
[06:49] <Arrick> it did kitofhawaii
[06:49] <mnemonica> jackaesop: thanks.
[06:49] <kitofhawaii> xiven: that's fine. what do you have clearwire?
[06:49] <andymushu> ttech: that command only works after you boot
[06:49] <xiven> Actually Yes.
[06:49] <Arrick> I just had to edit a file and add 3 lines
[06:49] <SingAlong> anyone help please
[06:49] <Ttech> huh?
[06:50] <Ttech> it says command not found
[06:50] <gadren> matrix0a: hmm... i'm wondering if you have a gcc version mismatch or something
[06:50] <andymushu> ttech: echo "options ipw2200 led=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/options
[06:50] <andymushu> ttech: copy and paste that directly into the terminal
[06:50] <heatmzzr> jlsolutions, how did you just highlight your name to me, that would be useful
[06:50] <bazhang> SingAlong: on slackware? this is #ubuntu you know
[06:50] <j1solutions> SingAling, what kind of website are you setting up?
[06:50] <SingAlong> ArthurArchnix: I am planning to setup a web server with Ubuntu. My hardware config is Intel P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB ram and 40GB HDD. And the speed of the internet connection is 256kbps. Will I be able to run a decent web server and sustain a site with about 10 million hits a month?
[06:50] <bullgard4> kern.log prints on (almost) every line two timestamps. What do they refer to?
[06:50] <dooglus> the new gutsy update seems to fuck things up.  is there a known workaround?
[06:50] <mnemonica> !language
[06:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:51] <j1solutions> heatmzzr, i iddn't do anything to highlight it, your client probably did that
[06:51] <kitofhawaii> xiven: yah we have clearwire here (for backup for cable modem at the house)
[06:51] <bazhang> SingAlong: you can also check in #ubuntu-server if you don't get an answer here :}
[06:51] <UserUbuntu> scguy318: may i acces fat
[06:51] <xiven> Do you have the same problem with your clearwire>?
[06:51] <Ttech>  ok\
[06:51] <owen1> what is the best file server for ubuntu?
[06:51] <heatmzzr> I see, yeah I got you...
[06:51] <Ttech> I'll try it
[06:51] <Ttech> I must be off
[06:51] <UserUbuntu> scguy318: may i acces fat32 by xmms?
[06:51] <jackaesop> I also can't get pastebinit to work, any ideas?
[06:51] <andymushu> ttech: k, good luck
[06:51] <Ttech> thanks
[06:51] <jackaesop> mnemonica: do you have a jabber account?
[06:51] <Ttech> Tahnks for the help
[06:51] <kitofhawaii> xiven: no. it works fine
[06:51] <mnemonica> jackaesop: No.
[06:51] <xiven> Hmm
[06:51] <scguy318> UserUbuntu: yes
[06:51] <andymushu> ttech: sure, no problem
[06:51] <matrix0a> gadren, i just do apt-get install gcc and tell me that is the last version
[06:51] <xiven> Right out of hte box?
[06:51] <Ttech> bye
[06:51] <jackaesop> mnemonica: gmail?
[06:52] <mnemonica> jackaesop: yes.
[06:52] <nickrud> jackaesop, the default pastebin site is not working ;(
[06:52] <kitofhawaii> xiven: well...we did configure it on a vista box before we went to work on it. like registering and whatnot
[06:52] <dooglus> nobody else has the problem with gut*y?
[06:52] <UserUbuntu> ok, i will try.
[06:52] <scguy318> dooglus: which is?
[06:52] <jackaesop> mnemonica: ah, yeah, won't work for me either, and it doesn't want to accept the ubuntu site.
[06:52] <j1solutions> dooglus, do a clean install
[06:52] <Arrick> !packages
[06:52] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:52] <j1solutions> thats my advice
[06:52] <gadren> matrix0a: well, i guess i don't have a solution.  sorry :(  maybe try asking on the forums?
[06:52] <dooglus> scguy318: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/gutsyupdatefckup.png
[06:52] <jackaesop> mnemonica: do you want to private chat. I'll try to help you with your gdm problem...
[06:53] <mnemonica> jackaesop: Ok... This might help. What file is stuff like Section "drivers" blah blah EndSection?
[06:53] <dooglus> j1solutions: don't be stupid
[06:53] <UserUbuntu> scguy318: thanks very easy.
[06:53] <Arrick> whats the name of the 6.06.1 version?
[06:53] <nickrud> jackaesop, you would do something along the lines of   sudo apt-get -f install | pastebinit , or  pastebinit -f <file> (if paste.straber.org was up)
[06:53] <mnemonica> jackaesop: that'd be awesome if you could.
[06:53] <astro76> !dapper | Arrick
[06:53] <ubotu> Arrick: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[06:53] <xiven> kitofhawaii> Same here..only XP. But Linux has been fighting like bloody hell.
[06:53] <Arrick> thanks
[06:53] <xiven> I've reinstalled 3 times
[06:53] <jackaesop> nickrud: thx, I guess the site is just down?
[06:53] <jackaesop> mnemonica: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <nanbud1> i lost connection and hence i would repeat my question. My /home/myUsername/Documents folder contains another 'home' folder which again contains Documents folder(empty). What is this? has anyone else seen this happening?
[06:54] <scguy318> Arrick: Edgy I think
[06:54] <mnemonica> jackaesop: How would I acces that in console?
[06:54] <kitofhawaii> xiven: it shouldn't, hang on i need to switch a load of laundry real quick :)
[06:54] <mnemonica> access*
[06:54] <andymushu> nanbud1: i've never seen it, and it is definitely not normal
[06:54] <jackaesop> does anyone know how to start a private conversation in irssi?
[06:54] <scguy318> xiven: what's your question?
[06:54] <choudesh> How do I launch the debug console for IcedTea-Java7?
[06:54] <jackaesop> mnemonica: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <dooglus> jackaesop: /query jackaesop
[06:54] <jackaesop> dooglus: thanks
[06:54] <matrix0a> gadren, ok, tnx
[06:55] <gadren> nanbud1: i haven't seen that exact thing happen, but i wonder if it's a result of you accidentally copying something, or ubuntu somehow importing old files incorrectly
[06:55] <spolvid> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a Mac without erasing the contents of the disc it's being installed on?
[06:55] <thamhki> hello, please,  i make download of firefox lastest version of de original site. now are firefox-2.0.0.11.tar.gz, how i install ?
[06:55] <scguy318> spolvid: you repartition in the installer
[06:55] <scguy318> spolvid: make sure to backup before installing
[06:55] <owen1> spolvid: what version of mac?
[06:55] <scguy318> thamhki: why do you need to do that?
[06:55] <gadren> nanbud1: i would just try deleting a few items, and checking to make sure it didn't remove their clones
[06:55] <andymushu> thamhki: double click that tar.gz file, then in the window that pops up hit extract
[06:55] <spolvid> I don't have anything to backup to though.. :(
[06:55] <bazhang> spolvid: you can also run it in a vm
[06:55] <jackaesop> dooglus: mnemonica: how would someone accept the private conversation in irssi
[06:55] <dooglus> every time this irssi terminal window scrolls up a line, the music I'm listening to skips.  is there a more efficient terminal program I can use?
[06:55] <spolvid> Running 10.4
[06:55] <thamhki> andymushu:  and after extract ?
[06:56] <gadren> nanbud1: and if the files aren't "linked" in some way, just go ahead and remove the extras
[06:56] <musashi> spolvid, yeah, i did that. you have to use the mac tools to partiton first like for installing windows
[06:56] <andymushu> thamhki: then go into the directory that it made and run the file
[06:56] <dooglus> jackaesop: you need to be registered to send a private message on freenode
[06:56] <nadio> how do I check the size of directorys?
[06:56] <mnemonica> jackaesop: alright.. I'll be right back. This might have fixed it.
[06:56] <andymushu> thamhki: hold on, let me see which file it is you run
[06:56] <dooglus> jackaesop: type /msg nickserv register pa$$word
[06:56] <bazhang> spolvid: boot camp for an install
[06:56] <thamhki> andymushu:  only this? not need copy file for other directory ?
[06:56] <spolvid> Yes, but partitioning will erase what's on the disc, right?
[06:56] <Peddy> my 3d windows plugin in Compiz Fusion is not working. Can anyone please help me?
[06:56] <andymushu> thamhki: sorry, i didn't understand your question
[06:56] <scguy318> spolvid: if you resize you don't
[06:56] <jackaesop> dooglus: same goes to accept a private message?
[06:56] <scguy318> spolvid: but make sure to backup anyway
[06:56] <dooglus> jackaesop: the other person needs to do the same before they can reply
[06:56] <bazhang> spolvid: not with boot camp
[06:57] <kitofhawaii> xiven: ok i have a couple things that'll help me understand what's not working i need you to try and come back with the errors/responses
[06:57] <spolvid> Hm.
[06:57] <jackaesop> dooglus: thanks, that helps
[06:57] <dooglus> jackaesop: they can accept it fine without registering, but can't reply
[06:57] <jb0nd38372> Quick question.. I installed a new drive in my system, and formated it to ext3 using gparted, How do I get it to mount and sow up on the desktop?  -> Gutsy noob <-
[06:57] <thamhki> andymushu: I SORRY, not have good inglesh and my suporte channel, are all sleep LOL
[06:57] <dooglus> jackaesop: next time you connect, /msg nickserv identify pa$$word
[06:57] <musashi> spolvid, try http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/02/installing-ubuntu-on-a-macbook-tutorial-beta/
[06:57] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: you probably need to add a line in your fstab
[06:57] <spolvid> I don't have anything to backup onto is the thing.
[06:57] <andymushu> thamhki: it's ok, it's a really easy problem
[06:57] <luddite> jbond: add it to fstab
[06:57] <nanbud1> thanks guys for all the input. i shall try removing them. But smell something fishy cause i think i have not accidently created them. Thnks a lot
[06:58] <bazhang> spolvid: then vmware fusion is your best bet
[06:58] <musashi> spolvid, you don't "need" to backup. the boot camp stuff should work. but if it doesn't well...
[06:58] <cdm10> What arguments do I have to the mount command to let the mounted drive be read and written to by normal users?
[06:58] <Chumby> jackaesop - have been into gnome, messed around with the screen res and drivers etc... just booted and now back to the orginal problem again. Yeeks
[06:58] <spolvid> Ah.
[06:58] <andymushu> thamhki: after you extract it, just go into the firefox directory and run "run-mozilla.sh"
[06:58] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, Can you tell me the formatting of the line to add, the device is /dev/sdb1 its formatted to ext3.. Was that right?  I just want it for storage of downloaded software and what not
[06:58] <jrib> cdm10: what filesystem?
[06:58] <spolvid> Can you thing of anything else to use?
[06:59] <jackaesop> Chumby: you changed it back to the intel drivers?
[06:59] <mnemonica> ok
[06:59] <cdm10> jrib: vboxsf (VirtualBox shared folder)
[06:59] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: gimme a sec
[06:59] <jackaesop> dooglus: thanks that will be helpful in the future
[06:59] <jb0nd38372> ok thanks you scguy318
[06:59] <mnemonica> jackaesop: Didn't work... Care to private chat now? try to trouble shoot this...?
[06:59] <bazhang> spolvid: you are better off using the mac software to do this first
[06:59] <vinboy> hi
[06:59] <cdm10> jrib: i can mount it fine, but it's only writable to by root
[06:59] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: where do you want to mount it?
[06:59] <musashi> spolvid, i followed that how to (or maybe it was the one in the wiki) and it worked fine. first step is let OSX create the partition. second step, don't install ubuntu on the first partition :)
[06:59] <luddite> UUID=33d94498-dae6-40ab-a07c-656acae2ca7b /media/sdc3 ext3 defaults 0 2
[06:59] <andymushu> thamhki: did that solution work?
[06:59] <jackaesop> mnemonica: sure, but apparently you need to register your nick
[07:00] <vinboy> is there any program that can monitor file system?? i want to see what program access what files..
[07:00] <xiven> kitofhawaii> You back?
[07:00] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, Where ever it would be accessable by atleast myself, i'm the only user on this machine if that makes a difference
[07:00] <jrib> cdm10: erm... no idea.  If it stores permissions, use chmod/chown appropriately.  Otherwise, you need to consult the documentation for vboxsf
[07:00] <mnemonica> jackaesop: Ah... great. I'm assuming that costs money that I don't have.
[07:00] <Chumby> jackaesop... sounds funny but not sure. I was trying to set up the two screens ... i have an LG and a Dell.  I have looked in the xorg file and there are lots more entries
[07:00] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: what do you want to call the mount point?
[07:00] <nickrud> jackaesop, you and mnemonica can just join #jackaesop , no pm's needed
[07:00] <spolvid> musashi, you mean making the partition in Boot Camp, right?
[07:00] <thamhki> andymushu: not know, extract, my personal dir, more not know whats file run
[07:00] <cdm10> jrib:
[07:00] <cdm10> jrib: shoot, sorry 'bout that
[07:00] <cdm10> jrib: thanks
[07:00] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, well it's a 500gig sata.. so, would 500sata be too hard?
[07:00] <cdm10> vinboy: look into AppArmor
[07:00] <jackaesop> nickrud: thanks
[07:00] <vinboy> thx cdm10
[07:01] <musashi> spolvid, yeah, use boot camp to set it up. it thinks you are going to install windows. ignore that. just create the parition and then install ubuntu to THAT partition
[07:01] <Chumby> what do I look for to get vesa working?
[07:01] <mnemonica> so join #jackaesop?
[07:01] <kitofhawaii> xiven: i'm back, typing up a quick pastebin for you with some commands i need you to try and come back with the info
[07:01] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i get a phillips mp3 player to work
[07:01] <nickrud> jackaesop, least I could do, recommending a broken app ;)
[07:01] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: not a problem, please do sudo mkdir /media/500sata
[07:01] <kitofhawaii> xiven: also, who manufactures your ethernet card?
[07:01] <xiven> Realtek
[07:01] <Chumby> sorry bout this jackaesop
[07:01] <bazhang> Jay-Oh-En: you using amarok?
[07:01] <andymushu> thamhki: ok, first extract the file. then close that window and go to the folder that it made called "firefox". then double click the folder, then double click the file run-mozilla.sh
[07:02] <kitofhawaii> xiven:....realtek...do you know what model? *head starts hurting* :)
[07:02] <xiven> The thing is..that the system worked fine before I got ClearWire..and Ive tried a fresh install 3 times..
[07:02] <spolvid> Hm. This might be tricky, I don't have Leopard and I never installed Boot Camp when it was public. I'll figure something out.
[07:02] <jackaesop> nickrud: Thanks!
[07:02] <spolvid> Thanks though.
[07:02] <spolvid> Bye.
[07:02] <musashi> spolvid, i did it with 10.4
[07:02] <Jay-Oh-En> yeah
[07:02] <scguy318> kitofhawaii: what is xiven's issue?
[07:02] <scguy318> kitofhawaii: sorry to butt in :P
[07:02] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: your fstab line is
[07:03] <xiven> Realtek RTL8139/810x
[07:03] <shenhui> where ?
[07:03] <kitofhawaii> scguy318: clearwire misbehaving, working on winxp like a charm with an ethernet cable
[07:03] <Peddy> can someone please tell me where cursors are installed in Ubuntu?
[07:03] <jackaesop> Chumby: you're treading in unfamiliar territory for me. when you changed the settings your xorg.conf was backed up, join #jackaesop and I'll try to help
[07:03] <thamhki> andymushu: ok, thx
[07:03] <andymushu> peddy: i can't tell you where the default cursors are installed, but are you trying to install a new one?
[07:03] <xiven> kitofhawaii Realtek RTL8139/810x
[07:03] <kitofhawaii> xiven: ok i have that on this laptop...tell you what...i'm going upstairs and i'm going to plug this laptop into the clearwire connection and see if it works
[07:04] <andymushu> thamhki: you're welcome
[07:04] <nickrud> Peddy, /usr/share/icons
[07:04] <kitofhawaii> xiven: in fact i have that exact card. hang on. brb
[07:04] <xiven> ok
[07:04] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: /dev/sdb1 \t /media/500sata ext3 \t defaults,errors=remount-ro \t 0 \t 1
[07:04] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: \t = tab
[07:04] <Peddy> andymushu: no, its just that ages ago I installed a cursor theme, now when my login splash screen pops up, my cursor goes black.
[07:04] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: like, fill in with tab separator
[07:05] <dooglus> xfce4-terminal and gnome-terminal both cause my music to stop each time someone talks here
[07:05] <dooglus> xterm doesn't, but isn't multi-tabbed
[07:05] <oediv> smbmount should give me an error when it's not able to mount the smb-share, isn't it?
[07:05] <Jay-Oh-En> bazhang: ?
[07:05] <thamhki> andy, run in console?
[07:05] <dooglus> is there a multi-tabbed terminal emulator that doesn't eat loads of CPU?
[07:05] <andymushu> peddy:ah. sorry to say i have never seen that issue.
[07:05] <andymushu> thamhki: no, just hit run
[07:05] <andymushu> thamhki: don't run it in console
[07:06] <Peddy> andymushu: thx though :)
[07:06] <kitofhawaii> xiven: (waiting for roommate to free it up)
[07:06] <xiven> Okay
[07:06] <thamhki> andy, when double clicka, show much options, read, run in console, cancel..
[07:06] <xiven> I'm soo glad you're able to help out..i've been spending hours fighting this every day, for like two months
[07:06] <thamhki> andymushu: okkkk i see! thx
[07:06] <andymushu> thamhki:there should be one other option
[07:06] <andymushu> thamhki: sure
[07:07] <vinboy> is there an easy way to bridge ath0 and eth0 interfaces?
[07:07] <andymushu> peddy: you should be able to go into the command line without ever going into the gdm and just deleting the cursor out of the directory manually
[07:07] <scguy318> kitofhawaii: Clearwire is wireless Internet service?
[07:07] <andymushu> peddy: that's what i would try first
[07:07] <musashi> kitofhawaii, xiven shouldn't the modem/isp be irrelevant since he has a router in between? if you can't ping the router the problem is closer to home
[07:08] <thamhki> andymushu: now are right!!! XD THX, you know about install counter strike steam! ?
[07:08] <scguy318> xiven: if the wireless device is the issue I would just use ndiswrapper to work around the crappy kernel modules
[07:08] <scguy318> !wine | thamhki
[07:08] <ubotu> thamhki: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:08] <scguy318> thamhki: that is what you need, and the AppDb
[07:08] <Peddy> andymushu: I forgot what it was called though.. do you mind telling me what is in your /usr/share/icons?
[07:08] <andymushu> thanmhki: to install counterstrike and steam you need wine
[07:09] <thamhki> ok!! THX! all
[07:09] <andymushu> peddy:ya sure, hold on a second
[07:09] <xiven> Jesus CHRIST!
[07:09] <xiven> This worked JUST FINE on CHARTER. Freakin ClearWire BULL
[07:09] <Peddy> andymushu: your the man :)
[07:09] <scguy318> thamhki: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[07:09] <Peddy> andymushu: you can post a screenshot if you want
[07:10] <scguy318> thamhki: and http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731
[07:10] <Strangework> Within a console, how do I indicate a space in a folder's/file's name?
[07:10] <andymushu> peddy: i'm new to this whole irc thing. how do i post a screenshot?
[07:10] <dooglus> Strangework: hit tab and you might find it happens automatically.  otherwise use a \
[07:10] <Strangework> thanks! :)
[07:11] <somedrew> Strangewok: either use quotes or escape the space with an "\"
[07:11] <dooglus> Strangework: or you can use 'single' or "double" quotes around the space, or around the whole name
[07:11] <Peddy> take a screenshot, save it, right click on my name in the names list and 'send file'
[07:11] <Peddy> andymushu: take a screenshot, save it, right click on my name in the names list and 'send file'
[07:11] <andymushu> peddy: i got whiteglass, redglass, handhelds, dmz (black), dmz (white)
[07:11] <mbro96> can you use the apt-get package manageer in BSD?
[07:11] <scguy318> Strangework: quote it out with \
[07:11] <scguy318> mbro96: no
[07:11] <Peddy> thanks
[07:11] <Strangework> dooglus: Got it! Cheers to you!
[07:11] <andymushu> peddy: sure man. hope that helps
[07:11] <xiven> I am soo sick of this problem
[07:11] <mbro96> thx
[07:11] <Peddy> andymushu: I'ma delete all the others
[07:11] <Peddy> andymushu: cheers
[07:11] <andymushu> peddy: good luck
[07:12] <Peddy> andymushu: thanks
[07:12] <kitofhawaii2> xiven: ok i'm on clearwire...are you using a router in front of your clearwire? i think you said that
[07:12] <xiven> Yes I am.
[07:12] <xiven> A LinkSys
[07:12] <kitofhawaii2> xiven: weird...and it doesn't work plugged directly in to the clearwire?
[07:13] <xiven> Nope. Tried that too.
[07:13] <dooglus> xiven: what's up?
[07:13] <kitofhawaii2> xiven: *switching back to wireless* brb
[07:15] <dooglus> xiven: are you using DHCP or a static IP address?
[07:15] <xiven> DHCP
[07:16] <xiven> wb kit
[07:16] <kitofhawaii> xiven: did i miss anything while switching over?
[07:16] <xiven> Nope
[07:17] <dooglus> when I run "man ifconfig", it takes half a second or so to page up each time I hit the space bar.  why the delay?  it's just running 'less' - that should be fast
[07:17] <kitofhawaii> xiven: see this is rough...since you're not in ubuntu...so i mean it's normally a couple of things i need you to try, but lemme finish this pastebin
[07:18] <xiven> Tell you what..if you'll give me a minute..I'll use my fiance's machine to be online, and i can boot this into Ubuntu
[07:19] <essayer> hello every one
[07:19] <kitofhawaii> xiven: awesome :)
[07:19] <oediv> is apt-file, the ubuntu equivalent of pkg_which in FreeBSD? Because it doesn't seem to work..
[07:19] <essayer> i am a newer
[07:19] <dooglus> oediv: you need to 'apt-file update' before it'll work
[07:19] <dooglus> oediv: I don't speak bsd
[07:20] <essayer> i want study english,who can help me?thanks a lot
[07:20] <oediv> dooglus: tnx
[07:21] <scguy318> dooglus: apt-file is what?
[07:21] <aBound> apt-get?
[07:21] <scguy318> aBound: what I was thinking
[07:21] <scguy318> essayer: this channel is only for Ubuntu support, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <aBound> same herescguy
[07:21] <musashi> maybe looking for apt-cache
[07:21] <dooglus> scguy318: it's a command.  it searches all the packages for files, whether you have them downloaded and installed or not
[07:22] <scguy318> dooglus: I think you mean apt-get...
[07:22] <dooglus> scguy318: say you want to find curses.h but you don't know which package it's in.
[07:22] <dooglus> scguy318: I think I know what I mean
[07:22] <aBound> dooglus: yeah you must mean "apt-get update"
[07:22] <essayer> thank you scguy318
[07:22] <dooglus> aBound: I don't.
[07:22] <scguy318> dooglus: you're correct
[07:22] <scguy318> dooglus: thanks for the clarification
[07:22] <aBound> doolus: as far as I can tell "apt-file update" doesn't work nor exist in my Ubuntu
[07:22] <scguy318> aBound: because it's not installed by default
[07:23] <dooglus> aBound: you need to install apt-file before the apt-file command will work
[07:23] <aBound> scguy: Well now that makes sense
[07:23] <dooglus> aBound: which package provides a file called segment_icon.png?  can apt-get tell you that?
[07:23] <astro76> dooglus, dpkg -S file
[07:24]  * nickrud bites his tongue
[07:24] <dooglus> astro76: that only works if the package is installed
[07:24] <astro76> indeed
[07:24] <astro76> didn't really read up ;)
[07:25] <dooglus> astro76: so your answer doesn't help much :)  I want to find segment_icon.png, I don't have it.  which package do I need to install?
[07:25] <dooglus> that's what apt-file is for
[07:25] <nickrud> I find that packages.ubuntu.com works faster most times, though
[07:25] <musashi> scguy318, try apt-cache search name
[07:25] <dooglus> nickrud: that's ok if you're online
[07:25] <scguy318> musashi: I don't need to search for packages right now...:P
[07:25] <antdedyet> Hello. Is /tmp cleaned upon every reboot?
[07:25] <scguy318> antdedyet: yes I believe
[07:25] <antdedyet> Ubuntu 7.10
[07:26] <antdedyet> scguy318: great. :(
[07:26] <dooglus> antdedyet: yes, and also anything mounted into it.  I lost my entire root partition due to that once
[07:26] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, hey im sorry about loosing connection, my isp decided to do maintenance rigght at midnight
[07:26] <kitofhawaii> dooglus: synfigstudio contains that file (google helps where others can't :)
[07:26] <musashi> scguy318, no, that might be what you are looking for in order to find all the packages with a certain file. or maybe i misunderstood what you wanted to do
[07:26] <nickrud> rlol
[07:26] <dooglus> kitofhawaii: correct!
[07:27] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: np
[07:27] <scguy318> musashi: I didn't want to do anything
[07:27] <scguy318> musashi: you're addressing the wrong person I think
[07:27] <essayer> i want study english,what kinds of chat ishould injoy
[07:27] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, do you still have that line handy I need to use to mount my drive?
[07:27] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: yes gimme a sec
[07:27] <jb0nd38372> ok thanks
[07:27] <xiven> Okay, im on a seperate box now.
[07:27] <Romina> hi
[07:27] <musashi> scguy318, oh, sorry
[07:27] <astro76> essayer, none, you should read books and other writing which use proper English
[07:28] <nickrud> essayer, #ubuntu-offtopic is fun sometimes
[07:28] <scguy318> musashi: np
[07:28] <scguy318> jb0nd38372:  /dev/sdb1 \t /media/500sata ext3 \t defaults,errors=remount-ro \t 0 \t 1
[07:28] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: \t being tab spacer
[07:28] <essayer> nickrud, thank you
[07:28] <xiven> kitofhawaii?
[07:28] <GFree> I feel like a traitor reading this channel here in Vista
[07:28] <kitofhawaii> xiven: here
[07:29] <xiven> I'm on another box now
[07:29] <Romina> when I try to run "md5", the bash output tells me to install the package "sleuthkit" first, but "aptitude search sleuthkit"  returns no package.
[07:29] <jb0nd38372> thanks scguy318 working on that now
[07:29] <dooglus> Romina: md5sum is probably what you want?
[07:29] <nickrud> Romina, you mean md5sum
[07:29] <Romina> same goes for "dolphin" which should already be in Feisty Fawn
[07:29] <Romina> oh, by the way I use  7.04
[07:30] <dooglus> Romina: if you want sleuthkit, you'll need to enable the universe repo
[07:30] <qwerty121> Hi all! how can i change the password of my a/c?
[07:30] <dooglus> !info sleuthkit
[07:30] <dooglus> qwerty121: type 'passwd'
[07:30] <ubotu> sleuthkit: Tools for forensics analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-1 (gutsy), package size 2749 kB, installed size 7328 kB
[07:30] <drcode> hi all
[07:30] <qwerty121> dooglus: then?
[07:30] <Romina> nickrud: Thank you!  You are right
[07:30] <dooglus> qwerty121: then follow instructions
[07:30] <Romina> nickrud, md5sum is what I've been looking for
[07:31] <qwerty121> thnx, dooglus
[07:31] <drcode> any idea if there is pxe server that I can do boot from ISO file?
[07:32] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, is there a terminal command I can issue to enable my new drive w/o rebooting?
[07:32] <Yanch0> oohhoh
[07:32] <dooglus> jb0nd38372: 'mount' probably
[07:32] <Romina> thank you guys!
[07:32] <Romina> bye bye
[07:33] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: sudo mount -a
[07:33] <jb0nd38372> thanks again
[07:33] <Yanch0> ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[07:34] <astro76> Yanch0, not a good idea
[07:35] <lwizardl> how do i make it where i can create folders on an external drive? i can drag and drop fine just not directly create the folders
[07:35] <unikon> nayone download and unstall Jeos yet?
[07:36] <astro76> unikon, it's not a desktop operating system
[07:37] <astro76> it's for embedded systems
[07:37] <unikon> ahh
[07:37] <astro76> Just Enough OS ;)
[07:37] <unikon>  whats the purpose then
[07:37] <astro76> for embedded devices
[07:38] <rabidweezle> what's the shell command to bring up a nautilus browser without loading *all* of nautilus? I'm running fluxbox and wanna setup my menu
[07:38] <astro76> say for example, an mp3 player
[07:38] <astro76> or whatever
[07:38] <rabidweezle> as in I want to launch a file browser without the whole desktop
[07:38] <unikon> thanks for clearing that up astro
[07:38] <dooglus> rabidweezle: you don't need nautilus to edit a text file
[07:38] <rabidweezle> I'm not editing a text file
[07:39] <rabidweezle> I want to make a command to launch the nautilus file browser without loading the desktop side
[07:39] <nickrud> rabidweezle, nautilus is nautilus, you want a file browser window you get the whole enchilada
[07:39] <dooglus> rabidweezle: nautilus --no-desktop will run nautilus without managing the desktop
[07:39] <rabidweezle> thanks
[07:39] <dooglus> nickrud: 'man nautilus' disagrees
[07:40] <nickrud> dooglus, true about the desktop, I was thinking about all the infrastructure
[07:40]  * rabidweezle loads fluxmenu and adds it
[07:41] <nickrud> dooglus, the vfs and all that stuff
[07:41] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, last question... I made "sudo mkdir /media/sata500" and added the line you pasted to me in my fstab, I now show the drive on my desktop, but I dont have any premissions to use it.  What do I need to do to fix that?
[07:41] <dooglus> nickrud: sure.  nasty.
[07:41] <rabidweezle> woot, that worked good, thanks dooglus
[07:41] <mnemonica> nickrud: Do you remember who ended up helping me earlier?
[07:41] <nickrud> mnemonica, jackaesop
[07:41] <dooglus> nickrud: I use xfce to try to avoid all that crud, but still things are very slow
[07:41] <mnemonica> nickrud: Thank you
[07:42] <nickrud> dooglus, I do use nautilus, infrastructure and all. I'm too lazy to set up a desktop anymore, I've become assimilated ;)
[07:43] <rabidweezle> oh noes
[07:43] <mnemonica> jackaesop: It works, I'm in X.
[07:43] <dooglus> nickrud: this pc is a new, fast, dual core beast with 2GB RAM and nothing much running.  yet every time someone speaks here, everything freezes for a split second, pausing music, movies, whatever's running
[07:43] <rabidweezle> any fluxbox users wanna tell me what directory (if any) I can drop themes in for it in ~?
[07:44] <jb0nd38372> How can I set permissions on a newly mounted drive?  I can see the drive but have no access to it, cant unmount, add files or anything
[07:44] <rabidweezle> I'm guessing it's ~/.fluxbox/themes but I could be waaay wrong
[07:44] <bluefoxx> hey, is there a support chat or some kinkd of channel for fruity loops studio?
[07:44] <nickrud> dooglus, I was getting slowdowns myself, not as drastic as yours. Seemed as good a reason as any to try 64bit again. I really should stay away from betas since I don't want to spend time doing a lot of troubleshooting
[07:44] <nickrud> *anymore
[07:45] <dooglus> nickrud: I'm using gutsy.  it's not officially a beta I don't think.  Just not very well tested by the looks of it.
[07:46] <rabidweezle> dooglus, what problems you coming across?
[07:46] <PyChild> help X is frozen :(
[07:46] <nickrud> dooglus, I started with tribe 4, and just kept updating. My fault. Breezy was the last one that I had absolutely no issues with, but gutsy is still better than any other's I've tried recently
[07:46] <dooglus> rabidweezle: I have hundreds :)
[07:47] <rabidweezle> PyChild, really froze? if so, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:47] <lwizardl> in gutsy how do I enable full write access to external drives? because I can drag an drop folders & files perfectly but i can not right click new folder in the root directory of the drive. they are grayed out'
[07:47] <PyChild> im running ddrescue so i have my doubts about hard rebooting
[07:47] <perlsyntax> wuld i have a prob with this install?
[07:48] <PyChild> rabidweezle: to do that i need to be able interact with my ubuntu
[07:48] <dooglus> rabidweezle: only 2 of 3 speakers work.  wireless performance drops to around 5% of capacity under heavy load until I restart it.  irssi running in a remote screen freezes audio & video playback, rhythmbox freezes when I drag the slider sometimes, writing a 5k file to disk sometimes takes over a minute
[07:48] <perlsyntax> Has anyone have a prob with dell pc?
[07:48] <dooglus> rabidweezle: sometimes the disk starts clicking every 5 seconds and causes the hard drive to fail.
[07:48] <bullgard4> enouf: How to interpret the time stamps in kern.log? In http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19628  time stamps of the format [ 10.687641] originate from dmesg. Where do the timestamps of the format 'Dec 9 06:21:59' originate from? Why does the dmesg-originated timestamp jump backwards in line #213? (from 16.094052 to 5.352000)
[07:48] <zoidberg_> guys can anyone help me run band in a box under wine here....i'm getting no sound?
[07:49] <PyChild> so im basicaly here for three reasons, 1)knowung what damange i can get from hard rebooting while running ddrescue
[07:49] <PyChild> 2) asking why it frezzes up anyway
[07:49] <PyChild> 3) what else can i do when ctrl+alt+back fails?
[07:50] <sjovan> do it more then one time :)
[07:50] <mbro96> how do you write a newline in the IRC?
[07:50] <sjovan> and hope for the best :P
[07:50] <PyChild> the better is the 2nd one, why does it lock up anyway, linux should not do that!!!
[07:50] <rabidweezle> PyChild, gimme a brief description of your computer
[07:50] <rabidweezle> is it a laptop?
[07:50] <dooglus> PyChild: I guess it's locking up because the disk you're reading from is damaged - doesn't it eventually give up?
[07:51] <rabidweezle> and dooglus that really sucks man
[07:51] <dooglus> PyChild: I guess it won't cause any damage, if you're writing to a journalled fs
[07:51] <mbro96> how do you make a new line in internet relay chat (when writing the same message)?
[07:51] <dooglus> PyChild: did you try ctrl-alt-f1 and logging in there?
[07:51] <bullgard4> How to interpret the time stamps in kern.log? In http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19628  time stamps of the format [ 10.687641] originate from dmesg. Where do the timestamps of the format 'Dec 9 06:21:59' originate from? Why does the dmesg-originated timestamp jump backwards in line #213? (from 16.094052 to 5.352000)
[07:51] <PyChild> actually I did just that
[07:51] <dooglus> PyChild: (ctrl-alt-f7 or f8 or f9 to get back)
[07:51] <PyChild> and x kind of stalled
[07:52] <uncommon> mbpro96 if you make a newline it the same as pressing enter key every end of sentence it will flood the channel
[07:52] <PyChild> before try ctrl-alt-f1 the mouse still responded
[07:52] <rabidweezle> are all your fans working PyChild ?
[07:52] <astro76> PyChild, once in console try sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:52] <scguy318> dooglus: silly question, but if the drive is damaged, shouldn't that be a sign of imminent data failure?
[07:52] <PyChild> but after try ctrl-alt-f1 x locked up
[07:52] <rabidweezle> PyChild, I get that too, that's something to do with the nvidia driver I think
[07:53] <PyChild> scguy318: i don't even think the drive is damanged, its just the file system that got trashed
[07:53] <mikedoty2> Change of thought.  Apparently, when I install nvidia-gfx-legacy, after I reboot, ubuntu isn't recognizing the driver.  (e.g., gfxinfo gives a lot of errors.)  How do I make it load the driver properly?
[07:53] <dooglus> PyChild: sometimes I just have to hold the power button for 10 seconds 'til the laptop does a real power down.  it sometimes brands the power icon into my fingertip, 'cos it gets quite hot.  I guess that's another ubuntu bug I forgot - it doesn't scale the cpu frequencies down when idling
[07:53] <sjovan> PyChild: ctrl-alt-F1 should get you away from x
[07:53] <mikedoty2> I can pastebin my xorg.conf file if that would help.
[07:53] <dooglus> scguy318: my drive?  I don't think I get your question
[07:53] <PyChild> dooglus: doesn't scale the cpu frequencies down when idling <-- WOW explain futher please!!
[07:53] <scguy318> dooglus: you said something about PyChild's drive having issues?
[07:54] <bluefoxx> hey, is there a support chat or some kind of channel for fruity loops studio?
[07:54] <dooglus> PyChild: this laptop gets VERY hot, even if I leave it doing absolutely nothing for a few hours.
[07:54] <PyChild> sjovan: yep that's the last thing i could do before the grand lock up
[07:54] <dooglus> PyChild: if I do the same in Windows, the laptop cools down nicely
[07:54] <rabidweezle> my laptop freezes up hard, but it's fan system doesn't work right without running gkrellm and a special plugin made for my laptop's fan system...
[07:54] <PyChild> is not a laptop
[07:54] <PyChild> hda is ext3 hdb is ntfs
[07:54] <dooglus> PyChild: I guess ubuntu should turn the speed of the cpus down or put them into a cooling idle loop or something, but it doesn't
[07:54] <PyChild> question
[07:54] <sjovan> PyChild: wow... that ahve never happend to me. could be some HW errors
[07:55] <dooglus> scguy318: he's running ddrescue...
[07:55] <scguy318> dooglus: oh, missed that tidbit :)
[07:55] <rabidweezle> or if I goto a tty I get screen lockup for some reason with my nvidia driver, nothing a /etc/init.d/gdm restart can't fix though
[07:55] <PyChild> why is a process able to take down my LINUX machine?
[07:55] <dooglus> scguy318: from what he says, he has a corrupted ext3 partition, not a damaged disk
[07:55] <sjovan> Dooglus: i have to many HD vs fans and a shoty cpu fan. my computer have been on for more then a month with out any problems. what are you talking about?
[07:55] <PyChild> that's so windows
[07:56] <dooglus> sjovan: I'm talking about my computer, not yours
[07:56] <sjovan> dooglus: good point in fact :)
[07:56] <PyChild> isn't there a way to tell my system (ubuntu 7.10) not to use all of its memory?
[07:57] <dooglus> PyChild: skype seems to be able to regularly crash x.org here
[07:57] <PyChild> dooglus: that awful app, if it wasn't required by my employers...
[07:57] <dooglus> PyChild: how do you video conference with vista users without skype?
[07:58] <mikedoty2> Should I do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[07:58] <dooglus> PyChild: "man bash" and search for "ulimit" - that allows you to limit memory usage per process
[07:58] <nickrud> dooglus, what webcam do you use?
[07:58] <dooglus> nickrud: it's a logitech quickcam pro 9000 maybe?
[07:58] <sjovan> mikedoty2: if you run 7.10 go to the homepage for compiz fusion. some good faq's for installing drivers there
[07:58] <dooglus> nickrud: something like that
[07:58] <dooglus> nickrud: uvc drivers?
[07:59] <nickrud> dooglus, I'm collecting anecdotal info about webcams, trying to find one priced right and working with a known user
[07:59] <mikedoty2> Ok, I"ll take a look and see what I can find.  Hopefully I get this fixed.  Thanks =)
[08:00] <dooglus> nickrud: I don't know if there are any that work well with skype yet.  this one sends a few frames of the full image, and then gradually sends smaller and smaller frames until X crashes
[08:00] <dooglus> nickrud: I blame the skype app though, of course, not the cam
[08:00] <amitprakash> when my ubuntu boots up.. it doesnt show the startup loading screen after login... anyone knows how to fix it?
[08:00] <nickrud> lol, dooglus that's a very useful anecdote ;)
[08:00] <dooglus> nickrud: what I tend to do now is stream the webcam to a port and have the remote user visit a webpage with a java app on it that show the video
[08:01] <nickrud> dooglus, and audio?
[08:01] <dooglus> nickrud: skype for audio, and for incoming video.  web stream for my outgoing video
[08:02] <dooglus> nickrud: skype still takes X down quite regularly with just incoming video, but I don't know where I'd start getting an unsophisticated vista user to use something else
[08:02] <amitprakash> also how do i automount ntfs under ntfs3g
[08:02] <rmorris84> to
[08:02] <rmorris84> to
[08:02] <rmorris84> to
[08:02] <rmorris84> to.
[08:03] <nickrud> dooglus, I'm still in the phone age, so it's no hurry for me
[08:03] <rmorris84> whartts up
[08:03] <rmorris84> I'm drink bitch
[08:03] <dooglus> nickrud: when I first got the cam and was trying all the various apps I could find in the ubuntu repository I found almost none of them worked
[08:04] <scguy318> morris84: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:04] <nadis> does anyone who use skype want to help me with my english
[08:04] <dooglus> nickrud: then someone here told me that there's a program to select 'v4l2' instead of 'v4l1' as the input type, which might well make everything work.  but the program is disabled in the default ubuntu menu, and not available at all in the xubuntu menus
[08:04] <dooglus> nickrud: the program is gstreamer-properties
 : this is ubuntu support forum.. :D i was really wondering why keep on asking for english help... hehehehe
[08:05] <game> hello
[08:06] <uncommon> * i mean channel
[08:06] <game> ?
[08:06] <tich> i just installed pulseaudio following the guide here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio how do i double check that it is working?
[08:06] <nickrud> dooglus, ah, multimedia properties. I have than enabled, but I ran it from the command line this time. I wonder what qcamsrc is
[08:07] <dooglus> nickrud: I just tried it - selecting 'v4l2' then 'test' hangs the properties dialog.  another partial success...
[08:07] <PyChild> dooglus: sorry im back, ok ill grep for ulimit
[08:07] <nickrud> listed as an unavailable plugin, but that's promising for research
[08:07] <PyChild> dooglus: so its hard reboot for me isn't it?
[08:08] <dooglus> nickrud: why is that promising in particular?  I see a list of 7 missing plugins here
[08:08] <dooglus> PyChild: "man bash" then type /ulimit and hit return to search the man page for ulimit
[08:08] <nickrud> dooglus, it vaguely reminds me of some brand, may be mistaken, but if someones written a specific one the odds seem better
[08:09] <PyChild> dooglus: iknow :P it was just an expression
[08:09] <sjovan> got a screen issue... any one that can help out? <---- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=635599         got a telnet issue, some one that can help ----> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=635611
[08:09] <Flannel> PyChild: don't hard reboot.  Hold alt-sysreq and type REISUB
[08:09] <bullgard4> Why does the time jump backwards in kern.log? In http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19628  time stamps of the format [ 10.687641] originate from dmesg. Where do the timestamps of the format 'Dec 9 06:21:59' originate from?  line #213 (from 16.094052 to 5.352000)
[08:10] <Tarkus> how can i check if my graphics drivers are installed properly and working?
[08:10] <Tarkus> for full acceleration.
[08:10] <George_> http://george.bullettimes.com/ftpserver/Screenshot-GPROFTPD%208.3.2.png <-- how come with this setup, my user cannot see the /media/ServerD/FTP folder, and can only see his ~?
[08:11]  * rabidweezle keeps playing around with fluxbox
[08:11] <tribal_guy4> can anybody help me with recovering a hard drive partition?
[08:11] <szundi> hi! my gnome panel has dissapeared
[08:11] <nickrud> szundi, try alt-f2 , gnome-panel
[08:11] <grindcore> hi all
[08:11] <grindcore> i have a big problem
[08:12] <edellingham> Hey guys...
[08:12] <edellingham> Got a quick question, anyone active on here?
[08:12] <tich> how do i check what sound server i am using?
[08:13] <edellingham> I believe it depends on the program sometimes...
[08:13] <grindcore> how i can log on as a root to the ubuntu - i mean not in console only. thanks
[08:13] <szundi> nickrud: it won´t come up... I just pressed the hide arrows on it and it permanently dissapeared
[08:13] <edellingham> Hey, grindcore...
[08:13] <sjovan> edellingh: just post the question. if any one has the awnser they will help
[08:13] <grindcore> edellinngham yes ?
[08:13] <BUDD}{A> ok can someone tell me why there is no media player for ubuntu that is like wmp that it will play your music liberty and videos and everything
[08:14] <sjovan> grindcore: you can't, it's that simple realy :)
[08:14] <Tarkus> how can i check if my graphics drivers are installed properly and working? for full acceleration
[08:14] <edellingham> Press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login as root and then type startx
[08:14] <edellingham> That should work for ya'
[08:14] <tribal_guy4> i plugged my external hard drive into my network hard driveand it initialized it before i could stop it.  It only took a second to do, but now i cant see my data.
 : due to legal issues...
[08:14] <uncommon> !medibuntu <BUDD}{A>
[08:14] <sjovan> edellingh: dam, haven't though about that before, but why would any one log in as root any way....
[08:15] <tribal_guy4> is there any way i can reset my boot sector so it will read again?
[08:15] <PyChild> Flannel: hello, what do you mean alt+sysreq?
[08:15] <uncommon> edellingh : that's dangerous
[08:15] <grindcore> edellinngham and i will be in the graphic enviroment - because i need to setup something and in console is impossible for me to do it
[08:15] <edellingham> Is there still an easy way to change to a better kernel version, or should I compile one for my exact architecture?  I've read a lot about people having good luck going from a generic kernel to a 686 specific kernel and getting some improved speeds.
[08:15] <Flannel> PyChild: hold the alt key and the sysreq key
[08:15] <BUDD}{A> i don't want a OS i just want a media player that will play videos and my music so i don't have to have three players to do that
[08:15] <PyChild> Flannel: the sysreq key? is that like the any ey?
[08:15] <nickrud> szundi, alt-f2 , gconf-editor   :  navigate to /apps/panel/<bottom|top>_panel_screen0 , untick enable_button in right window
[08:15] <dooglus> BUDD}{A: mplayer plays pretty much everything
[08:15] <edellingham> Well, I know that...I was just answering...what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:15] <uncommon> !medibuntu <BUDD}{A>
[08:16] <Flannel> PyChild: no.  It's next to scroll lock.  print screen shares a key with it
[08:16] <PyChild> Flannel: is it the break key?
[08:16] <edellingham> Can't you just open a terminal and sudo the program?
[08:16] <Flannel> PyChild: other side
[08:16] <PyChild> Flannel: let's see
[08:16] <minerale> all the sudden 'bmon' -- gives me a huge number of network interfaces, some named rose0.. : http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5144/bmonal2.png
[08:16] <minerale> what are all those interfaces?
[08:16] <BUDD}{A> i will look into it
[08:16] <grindcore> edellinngham i tried, but its not working
[08:16] <grindcore> i mean in the terminal straight
[08:17] <sjovan> BUDD}{A: VLC and XMMS, what's wrong with that?
 : just because there is a "buntu" at the end that doesn't mean it's a complete new distro
[08:17] <edellingham> Do you have sudo rights?
[08:17] <Ademan> anyone know if there's a channel or something for dvd::rip?
[08:17] <BUDD}{A> ic
[08:18] <PyChild> flannel! oh i see it IS the print screen key!!! so its alt+printscreen? or you mean alt+shift+printscreen??
[08:18] <grindcore> edellinngham this is the problem - i tried something and i turn off all my rights :(
[08:18] <PyChild> Flannel: that's a cool rick i didn't know, thankyou so much
[08:18] <rabidweezle> is there a panel app that works like osx's bottom panel?
[08:19] <edellingham> Interesting...
[08:19] <Ademan> rabidweezle: you mean the dock?
[08:19] <rabidweezle> yeah
[08:19] <uncommon> rabidweezle you mean like dock?
[08:19] <grindcore> edellinngham this is the problem - i tried something and i turn off all my rights :( and i need to turn on again
[08:19] <bluefoxx> hey, is there a support chat or some kind of channel for fruity loops studio?
[08:19] <PyChild>  Flannel i mean trick
[08:19] <dooglus> rabidweezle: avant-window-navigator is kind of like it
[08:19] <Ademan> rabidweezle: avant-window-navigator
[08:19] <sjovan>  grindcore: so why don't you just fix it in the terminal?
[08:19] <rabidweezle> thanks
[08:19] <grindcore> sjovan - how to do it ?
[08:19] <BUDD}{A> ok how do i install that medibuntu
[08:19] <PyChild> flannel thankyou flannel
[08:19] <uncommon> rabidweezle : there are plenty to choose from ranging from you don't need a compositor dock to you really need a compositor dock
[08:20] <szundi> nickrud: okay:) i think i fixed it. thank you
[08:20] <Tarkus> for me to get compiz-fusion setup.. do i need to install compiz-fusion and ccsm? etc. or is it already all installed?
[08:20] <nickrud> szundi, that worked? good :)
[08:20] <rabidweezle> I *don't* want one requiring compositing
[08:20] <bullgard4> Ademan: This channel is also for discussing to rip DVDs.
[08:20] <sjovan> grindcore: when you are at the login screen, just ctrl-alt-F1, then you su if you have made a root account
[08:20] <suttin> Hey guys, im having some graphics issues. i have an ati x800 gto card. Every time i try to set up my monitor, it doesnt go through. and now my restricted drivers wont work. I have them installed and checked, but now they say they arent in use. anyone have any ideas?
[08:21] <rabidweezle> uncommon, is there a list of em somewhere?
[08:21] <edellingham> If you have any concern about being logged in as root...d/c from the net.
[08:21] <Ademan> rabidweezle: well avant-window-navigator is by far the best, and it requires compsiting, but you know you can run 'xcompmgr -c -C' in a terminal and you'll have compositing turned on
[08:21] <rabidweezle> can you composite fluxbox though?
[08:21] <grindcore> ok guys - i go to try :)
[08:22] <Ademan> rabidweezle: xcompmgr works no matter what window manager you're using, it's pretty nifty
[08:22] <grindcore> thanks for a help :)
[08:22] <edellingham> suttin...are you doing it manually or with an app?
[08:22] <rabidweezle> avant isn't showin up
[08:22] <rabidweezle> :/
[08:22] <uncommon> rabidweezle : i don't know of something but if you're running compiz/beryl or the fusion you can have to options the Avant Window Navigator or the Kiba Dock
[08:22] <Tarkus> for me to get compiz-fusion setup.. do i need to install compiz-fusion and ccsm? etc. or is it already all installed?
[08:22] <Ademan> rabidweezle: well, i figure like xcompmgr + compiz wouldn't work out though lol
[08:22] <heatmzzr> tried to load blogtv.com and firefox wont load the page?
[08:22] <Ademan> rabidweezle: did you have xcompmgr running before you ran avant?
[08:22] <sjovan> grindcore: NP
[08:23] <suttin> edellingham: im trying to set up my monitor with the screens and graphics app in system -> administration
[08:23] <mmmbob> let me rephrase my question, how do i restore a broken partition table
[08:23] <rabidweezle> Ademan, it's not that, it's the fact the repo isn't letting me have it
[08:23] <rabidweezle> :/
[08:23] <Ademan> rabidweezle: ah! well one sec
[08:23] <edellingham> Are you changing the monitor type...or the resolution type...or both?
[08:23] <suttin> just the monitor type
[08:23] <edellingham> With mine...if I didn't choose the right monitor...my resolution was always jacked up.
[08:23] <dooglus> rabidweezle: last I heard, avant-window-navigator wasn't part of ubuntu
[08:23] <edellingham> I see.
[08:23] <edellingham> Interesting
[08:24] <Ademan> rabidweezle: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1621    they've got debs for a lot of stuff that isn't in the repositories
[08:24] <rabidweezle> got ya
[08:24] <rabidweezle> I been there a few times
 : AWN and Kiba is on another third party repo
[08:24] <suttin> edellingham: let me check and see if i read the type of monitor right, hold on
[08:25] <rabidweezle> thanks
[08:25] <aolaus> I am trying to put streamripper in my crontab
[08:25] <aolaus> but it's not working
[08:25] <uncommon> when will they ever release the metacity as a window compositor?
[08:25] <Pirate_Hunter> been researching does ubuntu underclock/scale the cpu by itself? if so than it would explain why my cpu is running at 2.8ghz and if i wish for it to run at normal speed what can I do?
[08:25] <aolaus> I'm not sure what's wrong
[08:26] <suttin> edellingham: its the right one im trying, dell p1110
[08:26] <dooglus> Pirate_Hunter: apparently on some hardware it does, and on other hardware it doesn't
[08:26] <edellingham> I choose a generic LCD monitor with the proper resolution...have you tried that instead of being so specific with the monitor?
[08:27] <suttin> ill try that
[08:27] <edellingham> Otherwise check out http://opennfo.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/compiz-fusion-with-ati-radeon-x800-gto-on-ubuntu-gusty/
[08:27] <edellingham> He has a documented experience with your card.
[08:27] <suttin> should i find the max resolution for it?
[08:27] <suttin> for my monitor
[08:27] <Pirate_Hunter> dooglus: well compared to feisty gutsy is doing it to my hardware which is annoying, so do you know how i can fix this, adding noapic to menu.lst didnt work just stopped the annoying message from bug 8254
[08:27] <szundi> now, what about shutting down my computer on ubuntu?: / ¨sudo halt¨ won´t do it either. the screen just turns black and nothing else...
[08:27] <edellingham> I would just shoot for whatever you plan on using.
[08:28] <aolaus> anyone? crontab?
[08:28] <suttin> ok
[08:28] <suttin> thank you edellingham
[08:28] <edellingham> I aim to please...I'm just trying to help with my experience...with a completely different card LOL.
[08:28] <UserUbuntu> Hey, i having problem to install java plugin in the Firefox, i download it from sun site.  Then installed like instructions, but why i acces a site que need the plugin, the browser show massage saying that i don't have it.
[08:28] <edellingham> Nah, don't do that UserUbuntu
[08:28] <szundi> oh dear...why do i have so many problems with gutsy:/ older versions workes just fine....
[08:28] <szundi> *ed
[08:28] <rabidweezle> what's the command to turn off compositing with xcompmgr?
[08:28] <edellingham> Go into Synaptic and do a seach for jre
[08:29] <pythondasnake> Can someone  walk me through this set up process.. I'm very aggravated attempting to install ubuntu.. Dual boot.. These are the steps I have taken ...
[08:29] <Ademan> anyone who's used dvd::rip know what a good value is to set "BPP" to?  (also wtf does it mean? i don't expect it's bits or bytes per pixel since it's between 0 and 1, but i guess i could be wrong)
 : did you made a fresh install or upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[08:29] <edellingham> UserUbuntu...seach java and jre...download the newest versions of both...should work right away.
[08:30] <pythondasnake> I partitioned 50GB using partition magic for Ubuntu Iso image ..
[08:30] <Tarkus> how can i check if my graphics drivers are installed properly and working? for full acceleration
[08:30] <edellingham> Ubuntu has the best repositories anywhere...I've tried so many distros...always come back because of the repo's
[08:30] <nickrud> UserUbuntu, try   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[08:30] <edellingham> Yeah...that too LOL
[08:31] <nickrud> edellingham, yeah, the repos, they always suck me in :)
[08:31] <edellingham> Yep, yep
[08:31] <szundi> uncommon: no, I didn´t upgraded from feisty, I installed it from the beginning. I just know how feisty worked..
[08:31] <pythondasnake> When I clicked /dev/sda5  41940 MB unknown I believe this is the partition I made it reads no root file system is defined
[08:31] <nickrud> Tarkus, glxinfo | grep direct  , and hope for yes
[08:32] <UserUbuntu> edellingham: I did, i download this file "jre-6u3-linux-i586.bin", now i will try what nickrud said., take a moment.
[08:32] <edellingham> I'm actually running Mint with XFCE installed myself...it's so beautiful *sniff*
[08:32] <edellingham> No...don't mess with the bin
[08:32] <edellingham> Do it with the repositories
[08:32] <szundi> uncommon: with gutsy I can´t even see the loading bar when ubuntu starts
[08:32] <uncommon> edellingham : it's an install script
[08:32] <Xenobyte> UserUbuntu, what nickrud said is the ticket
[08:32] <mikedoty2> Hooray!  I finally got it working.
[08:33] <edellingham> I tried it...never worked for me.  Hit the repo's and got java..worked right away.
[08:33] <pythondasnake> Nobody ?
[08:33] <mikedoty2> I wanted to mention what I needed to do in here in case more people come in with a similar issue.
[08:33] <UserUbuntu> Xenobyte: he said " try   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin".
[08:33] <nickrud> szundi, what kind of graphics chip?
[08:33] <edellingham> Type that and your set bro
[08:33] <mikedoty2> I had to add these two lines to the xorg.conf file:
[08:33] <mikedoty2> Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"
[08:33] <mikedoty2> Option "UseEDIDFreqs" "True"
[08:34] <Pirate_Hunter> been researching does ubuntu underclock/scale the cpu by itself? if so than it would explain why my cpu is running at 2.8ghz and if i wish for it to run at normal speed what can I do?
[08:34] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, you have a partition, now you need a file system
[08:34]  * uncommon is away: for a while
[08:34] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter, my dual amd gets scaled, sorta, half and full
[08:34] <edellingham> Anyone try out e17?
[08:35] <Tarkus> nickrud, nothing happens. it doesnt output anything
[08:35] <sjovan> pythondas: so format it then
[08:35] <edellingham> They're really pulling some cool stuff together...and it's so fast.
[08:35] <pythondasnake> Xeobyte: ok so what is the next step
[08:35] <Tarkus> nickrud, oh, nvrm i put a typo..
[08:35] <szundi> nickrud: s3prosavageddr video card. In the beggining I had big problems with it. I couldn´t see anything on the screen. I fixed it, but still having some monitor problems
[08:35] <UserUbuntu> Xenobyte: nickrub: i get it, plugin work know. thankx
[08:35] <Tarkus> nickrud, it says direct rendering: yes
[08:35] <Xenobyte> UserUbuntu, cool
[08:35] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: the problem with me is that i have a desktop and i dont need it to be scaled thats why i want to fix it, its nice to know it saves more power at the cost of speed
[08:35] <nickrud> Tarkus, then you're good, you have 3d accell
[08:35] <pythondasnake> Listen I'll be honest, I just don't know what I'm doing
[08:35] <edellingham> LOL
[08:35] <Tarkus> nickrud, nice.
[08:36] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: would you know how to turn it off
[08:36] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, if you need to create a file system you can use mkfs, man mkfs... there's probably a graphical way I don't know about
[08:36] <rabi> does anybody have simple problem?
[08:36] <dooglus> pythondasnake: gparted, qtparted will both make a fs graphically
[08:36] <rabi> I am ready to solve it.
[08:36] <sjovan> pythondas: i think the grfical solution was named gparted or something like that
[08:36] <Xenobyte> i have a problem with being simple
[08:36] <nickrud> szundi, oh, I don't know much about that chip, but for my ati I removed the splash vga=791 from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Gives the text startup, at least I see something happening
[08:37] <pythondasnake> It asks me use as:   and Mount point
[08:37] <Xenobyte> yeah i knew i was overlooking something :-)
[08:37] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter, no, sorry
[08:37] <rabi> Xenobyte: what is the problem?
[08:37] <Xenobyte> rabi, i'm just joking around
[08:37] <edellingham> Anyone familiar with the prefetch kernel?
[08:37] <pythondasnake> I chose ext2  for Use as.. I don't know what to choose for Mount point
[08:37] <sjovan>  pythondas: sudo apt-get install gparted <---that prog will help you out. it's realy easy to use
[08:37] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: np i'll just keep asking hopefully someone will know, i hope i dont have to this again its been 2 days now without a response :(
[08:38] <sjovan> pythondas: use ext3 ffs!
[08:38] <pythondasnake> ok
[08:38] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, you are in ubuntu install now?
[08:38] <pythondasnake> Yes I am
[08:38] <Xenobyte> how many partitions do you wish to install to?  all in one?  do you have a swap partition?
[08:39] <sjovan>  pythondas: ah jesus... i thiugh this was a new disk
[08:39] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, i agree about ext3
[08:39] <pythondasnake> Xenobyte this is exactly what I did..
[08:39] <Xenobyte> *agree with sjoerd
[08:39] <Xenobyte> *er, sjovan
[08:39] <sjovan>  pythondas: you need a swap, home and 15 GB for the file system. that should be enough
[08:39] <aolaus> is this dual boot or just ubuntu?
[08:40] <deepak> Hi... People... Can somebody help me with Mad wifi... It is not working even after installation... Im a newbee...
[08:40] <pythondasnake> I partitioned 50 GB with partition magic in xp for the OS
[08:40] <pythondasnake> I retyped the mount point as follows
[08:40] <amitprakash> my awn-theme doesnt show awn-curves even tho i compiled it..
[08:40] <pythondasnake> ... /media/sda2
[08:40] <Xenobyte> :/
[08:40] <pythondasnake> When I click forward on the install it say no root file system
[08:40] <sjovan> pythondas: donæ't use partition magic. it can f*ck up your HD
[08:40] <pythondasnake> I don't know how to correct that
[08:41] <pythondasnake> sjovan well already done
[08:41] <aolaus> good old norton
[08:41] <nickrud> pythondasnake,  the mount point you want to use is:     /     . That is the 'root' of the file system
[08:41] <pythondasnake> says please correct this from the partitioneing menu
[08:41] <pythondasnake> Ok.. let me try that
[08:41] <deepak> wifi help for newbee... please...
[08:42] <sjovan> pythondas: that's because you have to make it. like i said 15 GB for the root system, you need a swap nad the rest should be home
[08:42] <tich> is anyone successfully using pulseaudio?
[08:42] <sjovan> pythondas: if you are on the live cd, just use the gparted tool'
[08:42] <aolaus> is it possible to use gparted to correct all his partition problems?
[08:42] <pythondasnake> ok .. it says the follwoing
[08:43] <aolaus> pythondasnake: are you planning to keep XP on that computer, or just switching to linux entirely?
[08:43] <pythondasnake> sorry for the lengthy post.. You have not selected any partions for use asswap space. Enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of the avaialabe physica memory, and so that it behaves better when physica mem is scarece. you may experience installation problems if you do not have enough phys.. mem.
[08:43] <pythondasnake> again sorry for long post..
[08:43] <aolaus> yeah, you need a swap space
[08:43] <pythondasnake> aolaus I want to dual boot
[08:43] <pythondasnake> keep xp
[08:44] <aolaus> um.. I am not sure how this works
[08:44] <aolaus> but you want to be careful to preserve your xp data
[08:44] <pythondasnake> I know that is why i'm nervous about continuing
[08:44] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, if you use gparted or so to split that 50GB partition, as sjovan says, into a 15GB for /, a swap, and the rest for /home, you'll be in good shape
[08:44] <aolaus> if I recall it's rather easy to lose all your data when gparted does its work
[08:44] <aolaus> because xp can't find itself
[08:44] <pythondasnake> If I lose the code I have written in xp I lose job and life hence jump off balcony and leave note :)
[08:44] <aolaus> oh shit.. is it possible
[08:44] <Xenobyte> oh, then never mind :)
[08:44] <RCOMALTA> any one on ubut run mail server
[08:44] <aolaus> to just back everything up?
[08:44] <Tarkus> hmm, whats normal resolution for a 15.4" notebook display?
[08:45] <cafuego> it's XP. if it gets destroyed, you have no reason to not just use Ubuntu anyway :-)
[08:45] <elkbuntu> aolaus, please watch your language
[08:45] <Xenobyte> :)
[08:45] <Tarkus> i get 1280x800 by default..
[08:45] <Tarkus> pretty sure it can be higher
[08:45] <pythondasnake> true true
[08:45] <aolaus> once you back up your data
[08:45] <cafuego> Tarkus: My old one does 1024x768
[08:45] <edellingham> Hey, how do I change default programs in XFCE?
[08:45] <aolaus> you don't have to care about messing up your old OS
[08:45] <amitprakash> how to increate transparency of a window in compiz
[08:45] <deepak> Please help me....
[08:45] <deepak> Wifi is not working on ubuntu...
[08:45] <aolaus> actually that's probably waht you want to figure out how to do next
[08:45] <BUDD}{A> hi i am looking for a media player that will index my music like rhythmbox does but will index all my media music and videos is there such a thing
[08:45] <nickrud> pythondasnake, if you are comfortable with partition magic, go back to it and make 3 partitions: 1 15gb  (that will be   /  ) , another that's about 2 times your ram (that will be the swap) and the rest will be /home
[08:45] <mbro96> |||||||| CAN THE SWAP PARTITION be used for sharing files between Operating Systems (like saving a file in /swap in ubuntu livecd, and then pick it back up in FreeBSD)?
[08:45] <cafuego> Tarkus: You could try 1440x900
[08:45] <amitprakash> BUDD}{A, amarok
[08:46] <nickrud> mbro96, no
[08:46] <pythondasnake> hmm
[08:46] <pythondasnake> nickrud not that your advice is not valid.. I don't understand why I would have to make 3 partitions..
[08:46] <cafuego> mbro96: You could just mount the ext3 partition in freebsd or the ufs partition in Linux, though.
[08:46] <pythondasnake> Not that you're wrong.. I just don't understand why I would do that
[08:46] <cafuego> Oh sorry, never mind.
[08:46] <BUDD}{A> amarok will index  video and keep track of the library of videos like it does for music?
[08:46] <deepak> WiFi help on laptop for newbee...
[08:47] <amitprakash> BUDD}{A, yes... check library options
[08:47] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, a separate swap partition will greatly boost system performance
[08:47] <BUDD}{A> ok
[08:47] <pythondasnake> I'm thinking I build new machine and install ubuntu on it and forget this lol :0
[08:47] <sjovan> pythondas: because you want a separate file system, you need swap and a separate home. that's why
[08:47] <Xenobyte> as for the other, most ppl like to separate out /home from /, basically everything else
[08:47] <edellingham> Hey, how do I change default programs in XFCE?  Like...I want VLC to open AVI's opposed to Totem
[08:47] <aolaus> I just have /
[08:47] <mbro96> nickrud: i just can't figure out how to store retrieve a file from one OS, and get it in my primary OS wtihout burning a darn CD, or buying a thumbdrive, usb HD, etc.
[08:47] <nickrud> pythondasnake, you can get by with 2.  Swap is the same as the swap file in windows, linux uses a partition instead. The third (optional) partition, /home , is equivilant to Users in Vista. Useful for reinstalling without losing data
[08:48] <pyr0> people have to realize this...if you are going to install linux with windows, you have to have a general idea of how to partition
[08:48] <cafuego> Well actually you can get by with one, you just can't suspend to disk if you do.
[08:48] <pythondasnake> so If I continue with the current warning I will be ok nickrud?
[08:48] <nickrud> mbro96, create a vfat partition, both os's can read/write that safely
[08:48] <nickrud> pythondasnake, no, you really, really need that swap partition
[08:48] <aolaus> yes, swap and / at the minimum
[08:48] <BUDD}{A> amarok will play movies too?
[08:48] <sjovan> mbro96: linux has ntfs suport, shouldn't be any problem mounting your NTFS sh*t in ubuntu
[08:48] <deepak> Working with Wifi is so difficult?
[08:48] <sjovan> then you can copy paste and do what ever you want
[08:48] <Xenobyte> pythondasnake, just use partition magic to take one little slice out of that big partition for your swap
[08:49] <cafuego> nickrud: Unless he has low ram, he can make a swap file on / or /home later on.
[08:49] <nickname632> wow, my roomate from college just got expelled today :x
[08:49] <deepak> Nobody knows or is it obvious and nobdy wanna tell it?
[08:49] <aolaus> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu
[08:49] <pythondasnake> Ok.. I will try and if that doesn't work.. I think I go buy a machine with vista on it delete it and install ubuntu lol
[08:49] <mEck0> can someone help me setting up dual monitors between laptop lcd and external tft, intel x3100 gfx.
[08:49] <Xenobyte> deepak, i don't know from wifi, sorry
[08:49] <aolaus> here is one of the guides I used to triple boot my system
[08:49] <nickname632>  ?wtf did you just say
[08:49] <nadio> swap is _NOT_ needed IF you have enought ram.
[08:49] <nickrud> cafuego, true, but not something I've done, so I'm not comfortable recommending it.
[08:49] <elkbuntu> sjovan, why not just say 'stuff' instead of swearing (it's still swearing even if it's obfuscated)
[08:49] <pythondasnake> 2GB ddr
[08:50] <sjovan> elkbuntu: good point. sorry
[08:50] <deepak> Thanks Xeno... Atleast I gotta reply...
[08:50] <Xenobyte> :)
[08:50] <edellingham> Nevermind...figured it out
[08:50] <mbro96> nickrud: THANKS! i love that idea! (if that is true, don't know much about partitioning schemes). That would be perfect. because i have NO internet on bsd, so i need to get files using /something/ and then use it in primary BSD os
[08:50] <cafuego> nickrud: It needs to be done manually and would prevent swusp from working, so not ideal for laptops.
[08:50] <cafuego> nickrud: Otherwise, dead easy.
[08:50] <pythondasnake> In general are people happy with Ubuntu for everyday tasks over XP?
[08:50] <nickname632> h4x?
[08:50] <nickname632> pythondasnake, yes
[08:50] <cafuego> As long as you don't make the fatal mistake of making a sparse file :-)
[08:51] <aolaus> pythondasnake: what do you typitcally do?
[08:51] <nickname632> sparrse file?
[08:51] <nickrud> pythondasnake, I used linux exclusively for years, until work forced otherwise
[08:51] <aolaus> important to ask that question before ansewring ;)
[08:51] <RCOMALTA> any one here run ubutu in server box
[08:51] <pythondasnake> I program in Java and I program in python for fun nickrud
[08:51] <cafuego> nickname632: No, one 'r'.
[08:51] <nickname632> ?
[08:51] <nickrud> cafuego, I think I actually know what that means :)
[08:51] <aolaus> yeah, linux is pretty good for programming
[08:51] <sjovan> pythondas: not advanced music and video editing. that's the only thing linux is lacking. and directX10 games ofcourse
[08:51] <cafuego> nickrud: it makes 'mkswap' very *very* unhappy :-)
[08:51] <dooglus> pythondasnake: if you mostly program then you'll be happier in linux than windows, I'd say
[08:51] <pythondasnake> I am nervous about it though you know.. I have always used xp.. But for years I have heard about linux this linux that .. so I just wanted to try it
[08:52] <BUDD}{A> were do i find library options
[08:52] <dooglus> pythondasnake: if you mostly play directx games and watch microsoft drm'ed movies then you won't
[08:52] <pythondasnake> and XP's command line doesn't let me do anything
[08:52] <pythondasnake> I don't play any games
[08:52] <Xenobyte> sjovan, i installed ubuntu studio about three weeks ago--i have some demos almost done, Ardour2 is pretty cool for multitracking as long as you save often ;)
[08:52] <pythondasnake> I play chess that's about it
[08:52] <dooglus> pythondasnake: try a linux live cd and see how it goes
[08:53] <mbro96> nickrud: one more thing. could i just do this: #fetch n /what/what/? in BSD to get file from win32/vfat partition?
[08:53] <dooglus> pythondasnake: hex is a fun board game
[08:53] <pythondasnake> Well dooglus I am currently running Ubuntu off an iso image I burned.. (as wee speak
[08:53] <heatmzzr> pythondasnake, just put Ubuntu on my machine tonight and i love it so far... used windows since 3.11, (god Im old)
[08:53] <aolaus> one of the cooler things about linux is the ability to automate stuff
[08:53] <aolaus> with crontab
[08:53] <aolaus> it's how sysadmins survive their day
[08:53] <RCOMALTA> on linux ubutu can i do web server
[08:53] <cafuego> Oh please, keep the wee in the bathroom.
[08:53] <sjovan>  Xenobyte: well i'm no expert, but i doubt any pro. would use linux for music and video
[08:53] <Xenobyte> lol heatmzzr
[08:53] <J-_> How hard is it to configure a relay smtp mail server?
[08:53] <deepak> Thanks all... Bye...
[08:53] <Xenobyte> sjovan, prolly not, but it's coming along nicely is all
[08:53] <nickrud> mbro96, don't know bsd much, but I'd be flabbergasted if you couldn't simply mount the vfat partition in the file tree and read it directly
[08:53] <cafuego> RCOMALTA: Yes.
[08:53] <BUDD}{A> amarok dosen't play videos i just tryed
[08:54] <Xenobyte> sjovan, it's fun anyway :)
[08:54] <sjovan>  Xenobyte: that's nice. don't doubt that at all :D
[08:54] <nickrud> aolaus, but, that takes away the magic all the suits see
[08:54] <cafuego> nickrud/mbro96: yes, you can.
[08:54] <pythondasnake> Now do some of the IDE's work for Ubuntu? Say eclipse, netbeans ??
[08:54] <cafuego> pythondasnake: yes
[08:54] <cafuego> !info eclipse
[08:54] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[08:55] <wols> pythondasnake: both are available
[08:55] <nickrud> pythondasnake, I just did a fresh install, eclipse was the second thing I added
[08:55] <Xenobyte> i think next year i might actually be windows-free.  i'm currently pinching myself.
[08:55] <aolaus> nickrud: just write a program that uses markov chains to produce random text
[08:55] <rmorris84> to
[08:55] <pythondasnake> and I like Textpad as well for some things
[08:55] <aolaus> they'll think it's the bee's kneews
[08:55] <RCOMALTA> for ubutu there is any way to make mail server smtp and pop3 setup web or gui
[08:55] <pythondasnake> Ok I think what I will do is buy /build a machine and just install Ubuntu as the primary OS
[08:55] <astro76> pythondasnake, at work we got ubuntu machines for netbeans as it's much faster compiling than windows
[08:55] <cafuego> RCOMALTA: Well... kind of... but I can't really recommend any.
[08:55] <astro76> pythondasnake, well no textpad but no shortage of text editors
[08:56] <aolaus> !info gedit
[08:56] <ubotu> gedit: official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 780 kB, installed size 2752 kB
[08:56] <pythondasnake> But lightweight text editors nonetheless
[08:56] <aolaus> !info nano
[08:56] <ubotu> nano: free Pico clone with some new features. In component main, is standard. Version 2.0.6-2 (gutsy), package size 283 kB, installed size 1652 kB
[08:56] <dooglus> !info emacs21
[08:57] <ubotu> emacs21: The GNU Emacs editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 21.4a+1-5ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1976 kB, installed size 5928 kB
[08:57] <aolaus> nano represent
[08:57] <pythondasnake> I'm reluctant to totally against trying Vista.. Nothing when looking at it really pops out at me that says buy me over xp .. I don't really understand what new capabilities it has other than it's bigger
[08:57] <UserUbuntu> good night, to everybody
[08:58] <astro76> pythondasnake, ot... but yes it's a nightmare and looks to be their first failure
[08:58] <Xenobyte> i hate vista with a burning passion
[08:58] <Matt17> :D
[08:58] <elkbuntu> astro76, first? you've forgotten about ME?
[08:58] <aolaus> it's shiny though, you gotta admit
[08:58] <murat> türkşh
[08:58] <astro76> elkbuntu, true, but people actually bought that one ;)
[08:58] <pythondasnake> Well I don't hate it I just don't know why it's better than xp.. There is nothing that says WOW this is really an upgrade from xp
[08:58] <aolaus> has anyone looked into developing those dashboard widgets?
[08:58] <Matt17> you know everyone hates vista
[08:58] <murat> bende sizin
[08:59] <Matt17> but i must use it
[08:59] <Xenobyte> yes, but my hate is special :p
[08:59] <Matt17> how come
[08:59] <dooglus> pythondasnake: most of the improvements are not for you, but for ms and the media companies
[08:59] <aolaus> one advantage xp has over ubuntu is battery life
[08:59] <pythondasnake> Well I think I will install Ubuntu on another machine and mind you for the next six months i you guys answer some very noob questions lol
[08:59] <Xenobyte> aw, it's a long sad story. :)  I'm sorry you have to use it
[09:00] <pythondasnake> if *
[09:00] <Matt17> but xp has f*$#ing GrabIt that I need
[09:00] <Matt17> but ubuntu doesent
[09:00] <nickrud> aolaus, please don't spread truth
[09:00] <Matt17> any alternatives?
[09:00] <astro76> pythondasnake, it's a deal ;)
[09:00] <Matt17> i would erase windows than
[09:00] <Matt17> i just use it becouse of grabit
[09:00] <Matt17> i must use binaries
[09:01] <Xenobyte> erm, klibido, if you install kde--and i've run grabit in wine before on slackware, it mostly worked ;)
[09:01] <pythondasnake> ok lol thanks astro76
[09:01] <Matt17> thx
[09:01] <sjovan>  pythondas: like google have some realy good howto install ubuntu, just so you know it
[09:01] <Matt17> im pretty new
[09:01] <Matt17> :D
[09:01] <Xenobyte> can look at pan, it's no grabit but it's not bad
[09:01] <Matt17> so thanx
[09:01] <pythondasnake> sjovan I have been through the basics of them like 10 times..
[09:01] <Xenobyte> np :)
[09:02] <pythondasnake> There is just something I don't get or am not doing right.. I can't say anything more than tht
[09:02] <nickrud> pythondasnake,  a really good place to search stuff is www.google.com/linux
[09:02] <Matt17> klibido then it is?
[09:02] <Xenobyte> yah
[09:02] <aolaus> well pythondasnake
[09:02] <aolaus> the most important thing is partitioning correctly
[09:02] <kitofhawaii> Matt17: vista turned me into a fulltime linux user...i can concur. i refuse to run it so if i need windows i remote into the office *microsoft, how i championed your cause for 15 years and then you slap me in the face*
[09:02] <aolaus> and perhaps figuring out the boot sequence
[09:02] <rgl_> hi
[09:02] <aolaus> other than that it's all automated
[09:02] <Xenobyte> pan is gtk, but more of an all-around news reader
[09:02] <gary> Does anyone else have awful static sounds when using Real player?
[09:02] <rgl_> I'm trying to install ubuntu in a raid, so I've downloaded the alternate install cd, but it installs X, is there other CD that can install to raid, but without X?
[09:02] <sjovan> pythondas: then i sugest you refer to the step in the howto that you don't understand. that would make it much easyer for us to help you-
[09:03] <Xenobyte> lol kit
[09:03] <astro76> rgl_, server install I believe
[09:03] <nickrud> rgl_, there's a server cd, release.ubuntu.com/7.10
[09:03] <nickrud> rgl_, erm, releases. etc
[09:03] <rgl_> ah thanks. gona try it!
[09:04] <pythondasnake> ok..
[09:04] <pythondasnake> Does Ubuntu read NTFS files ?
[09:04] <astro76> rgl_, I wonder if minimal install cd can install to raid
[09:04] <aolaus> yes it does
[09:04] <astro76> pythondasnake, read/write
[09:04] <lwells> how do i connect to a printer on the network??
[09:04] <AgentHeX> eclipse is the dumbest code editor i've ever seen :(.  just thought you guys should know
[09:04] <wols> lwells: depends how this printer is made available
[09:05] <wols> AgentHeX: that you for your valuable input
[09:05] <lwells> over a wireless network
[09:05]  * nickrud thinks AgentHeX hasn't seen qedit
[09:05] <wols> ikonia: that's irrelevant
[09:05] <gary> Does anyone know how to fix static sounds when using Real player?
[09:05] <pythondasnake> Well I'm excited lol.. I think I will gobuy a machine and learn it all
[09:05] <AgentHeX> wols: any time.  gunna look up qedit now
[09:05] <kitofhawaii> lwells: system -> administration -> printing (assuming you're running gnome) then "new printer"
[09:05] <lwells> ok i am there
[09:05] <wols> lwells: CIFS or IPP?
[09:05] <kitofhawaii> lwells: is it a windows box, or just a printer with a nic?
[09:05] <AgentHeX> wols: you would think that an IDE would have some way of importing source files not created with itself, but no...
[09:06] <aolaus> gary: in wine?
[09:06] <lwells> apple wireless network
[09:06] <wols> AgentHeX: then you are simply not bright enough to use eclipse
[09:06] <kitofhawaii> lwells: the printer you're trying to connect to
[09:06] <AgentHeX> wols: apparently not.
[09:06] <lwells> yes, it is connected to a airport express
[09:06] <Xenobyte> whoop,  i gotta split
[09:07] <Matt17> damn
[09:07] <Matt17> klibido is bit too confusing for me :S
[09:07] <Xenobyte> back :)
[09:07] <kitofhawaii> lwells: ok...it has its own ip address or what? how is it hooked up to your network? like...plugged into another computer, wireless with an ip address..? :)
[09:07] <AgentHeX> wols: not a menu option i could find to do it.  uninstalling eclipse now
[09:07] <Matt17> how to install this thing
[09:07] <Xenobyte> matt17, did you grab klibido?
[09:07] <lwells> wireless with an ip
[09:07] <nickrud> AgentHeX, I just used cp , worked fine
[09:07] <Matt17> i downloadet it
[09:08] <wols> lwells: it's the IP of the apple box right?
[09:08] <wols> Matt17: man dpkg
[09:08] <gary> Real player in wine? No, no. The linux version
[09:08] <lwells> well yea
[09:08] <Arelis>  Hi all. I found that with fglrx, everything works better, from gaming to 2D stuff. I have an ATI Radeon 9600. Problem is, i'm, right now, unable to switch on the desktop effects.. and i have the Option "Composite" "Enable" in the Xorg.conf.. am i forced to use XGL?
[09:08] <Xenobyte> Matt17, try sudo apt-get install klibido
[09:08] <AgentHeX> nickrud: ? i put my source files in the project path, and it didn't see anything.  i've had to delete not only the project path but the .metadata folder as well to be able to re-create a project.
[09:08] <Matt17> ok
[09:08] <gary> I'm runnng a 64bitAMD
[09:08] <wols> Arelis: yes
[09:09] <aolaus> any particular reason you need real player?
[09:09] <Arelis> wols: Is XGL bad to use, or does it run just fine?
[09:09] <kitofhawaii> lwells: so the printer has a wireless card built in right, not plugged into a mac or something? (just trying to envision)
[09:09] <lwells> do i need to type in the ip address or will ubuntu see it on the network
[09:09] <nickrud> AgentHeX, hm, created a project, moved the stuff in. wfm
[09:09] <wols> Arelis: imho it's simply crap. ubuntu likes to differ. their choice
[09:09] <lwells> no, the printer is connected directly to the wireless router
[09:09] <Arelis> wols: What do you mean by that?
[09:09] <AgentHeX> nickrud: we're still talking about eclipse, right
[09:09] <gary> To watch .rm and .rmvb files, of course.
[09:09] <kitofhawaii> lwells: i would try IPP first (maybe your printer supports it) if not, try appsocket/hp jet direct
[09:10] <Matt17> xenobyte thanks
[09:10] <Matt17> it seems it works :D
[09:10] <gary> Unless there's a way to convert the files to .avi or use another program?
[09:10] <Matt17> Im such a noob :(
[09:10] <Xenobyte> Matt17, excellent >:)
[09:10] <Xenobyte> lol
[09:10] <aolaus> hmm, never heard of those filetypes
[09:10] <Matt17> :D
[09:11] <Matt17> so it would be similar to grab it?
[09:11] <Xenobyte> erm--not *that* similar :D
[09:11] <Xenobyte> but it should do ya
[09:11] <Matt17> I mean it should do the sam thing
[09:11] <Xenobyte> yeah
[09:11] <Xenobyte> it's all about sucking down the binaries
[09:12] <Matt17> well I cant wait
[09:12] <Matt17> I really now think of fomating my windows patition
[09:12] <nickrud> AgentHeX, yes, html/php
[09:13] <lwells> how do i find out the network i am connected to
[09:13] <nickrud> AgentHeX, got my text replace back, Works for Me™ :)
[09:13] <gary> file types? Those are pretty standard Real file types.
[09:13] <Xenobyte> that will make the world a little better place
[09:13] <aolaus> gary: google "rmvb ubuntu"
[09:13] <aolaus> apparently you can use mplayer to play rmvb
[09:13] <aolaus> as well as convert rmvb to avi
[09:13] <aolaus> praise FSM
[09:14] <kibba> Bonjour
[09:14] <kitofhawaii> lwells: the subnet? what information are you looking for?
[09:14] <kibba> imule
[09:14] <AgentHeX> nickrud: it seems you have to refresh the project for it to rescan the folder.  got it working, but that's just stupid.  closing and re-launching eclipse went nowhere.
[09:15] <bullgard4> Why does the time jump backwards in kern.log? In http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19628  time stamps of the format [ 10.687641] originate from dmesg. line #213 (from 16.094052 to 5.352000)?
[09:15] <nickrud> AgentHeX, ah, well, all software has it's awkward points. I like eclipse because I'm lazy, really
[09:16] <gary> But the problem isn't with the file type, but with the choppy/static sounds.
[09:16] <AgentHeX> nickrud: and you think i downloaded it to work harder?
[09:16] <nickrud> AgentHeX, lol
[09:16] <etc_> GDM takes different resoliton, and my screen is elongated? anyone now about this?
[09:17] <nickrud> kitofhawaii, you seem to pop up when it comes to network issues, can you recommend some reading?
[09:17] <aolaus> gary: I have no clue what could be causing it, I'm sorry
[09:17] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: you have to remember things don't necessarily post to kern.log immediately
[09:17] <AgentHeX> nickrud: if it's set to "autobuild" do i need to do anything but hit the green arrow button?
[09:18] <nickrud> AgentHeX, in what context? java, c, php, other
[09:18] <wols> etc_: do you have a widescreen monitor?
[09:18] <kitofhawaii> nickrud: in general, or specific to linux? im a network engineer
[09:18] <AgentHeX> nickrud: c++
[09:18] <etc_> wols, no, its a cheap 15inch crt
[09:18] <gary> It's ok. Thanks a lot. I'll try the forums, then.
[09:18] <nickrud> kitofhawaii, in general, then networking linux/windows
[09:19] <wols> etc_: check your xorg logs then why it'd doing it
[09:19] <etc_> wols, the thing is GDM is weird, but once logged in its fine resolution
[09:20] <kitofhawaii> nickrud: cisco univercd is fantastic (online and freely available) to cover a lot of general topics
[09:20] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: Are you going to tell me that the events depicted in line #213ff occurred earlier than the events in lines with numbers < 213?
[09:20] <etc_> wols, been trying setting and removing diff settings in xorg.conf but it seems that gdm isn't getting resolutions from xorg.conf
[09:21] <Tarkus> how can i find out what video card im using?
[09:21] <AgentHeX> nickrud: n/m.  it seems g++ wasn't installed.  i had g++4.2.something, and it didn't map right.
[09:21] <dave81> !hardware
[09:21] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:21] <astro76> etc_, supposedly gdm uses the first resolution listed on the line in xorg.conf
[09:21] <nickrud> kitofhawaii, thanks
[09:22] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: they could've started before...we're talking milliseconds here. kernel issues a call, the kern.log doesn't order the entries
[09:22] <etc_>  Modes "800x640" is the only line in my xorg
[09:22] <etc_> lemme restart though, i just did a gdm update from repo
[09:22] <etc_> wait up guys :D
[09:23] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: No, we are not talking milliseconds here. You are not well-informed.
[09:23] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: which column are you looking at in kern.log?
[09:23]  * Xenobyte waves goodbye
[09:24] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: The column having the format [16.094052].
[09:25] <Flynsarmy> Any australians here know how to set up the GA repository for gutsy?
[09:25] <buttercups> bullgard4, like I said, 1 time stamp the other numbers refer probably to a specific location, #linux-kernel. Your "mom"comment I don't care for,thanks
[09:26] <Jimnastics_> !codecs
[09:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:28] <bullgard4> buttercups: In one line there are two time-stamps. Full stop. Have you ever analyzed dmesg?  --  Why do you mention '#linux-kernel'?
[09:30] <buttercups> bullgard4,  [16.094052] is not a time stamp, its common sense why i referred you to #linux-kernel for a kernel.log question
[09:31] <bullgard4> buttercups: What is  [16.094052] then, if it is no time-stamp?
[09:31] <buttercups> bullgard4, the output of dmesg does not contain any timestamps what so ever
[09:32] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to enable the GD libraries in the default LAMP installation?
[09:32] <bullgard4> buttercups: Common sense has led many people in false directions. I have checked the activity in #linux-kernel. It appears to me that you have not.
[09:32] <wols> apt-cache search gd |grep php
[09:33] <MinusSeven> Is there a program I can run that automatically sets up fstab?
[09:33] <bullgard4> buttercups: Can you prove your statement.
[09:33] <nickrud> bullgard4, easy, this is not a debating society, it is a mutual help group
[09:33] <wols> bullgard4: kernel.log is not dmesg
[09:34] <aolaus> damn bullgard, lighten up dude
[09:34] <bullgard4> nickrud: Your message is not helpful.
[09:34] <buttercups> bullgard4, prove what? that dmesg does not contain time stamps?
[09:34] <nickrud> bullgard4, not meant to be helpful, but informational.
[09:34] <Arelis> I found that fglrx works much better than the open-source 'ati' driver here. With gaming, and 2D things. But i'm unable to turn on the desktop effects. My video card is an ATI Radeon 9600 and my operating system is Ubuntu Gutsy. Can anyone please help?
[09:34] <bullgard4> buttercups: yes.
[09:34] <nickrud> !xgl | Arelis
[09:35] <ubotu> Arelis: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:35] <Arelis> nickrud: can't i use it with aiglx?
[09:35] <wols> Arelis: I already told you: no
[09:35] <nickrud> Arelis, if you install the ones from ati
[09:35] <buttercups> bullgard4, do you want people to help you or would you rather question there answers?
[09:35] <wols> not with fglrx
[09:35] <jeremyb> their*
[09:35] <Arelis> wols: Alright. Someone else told me i could, so that's why i doubted those words.
[09:35] <wols> nickrud: even the new ones don't work well with aiglx apparently
[09:36] <Arelis> nickrud: Is XGL safe to use, and does it play nice with games?
[09:36] <SingAlong> I am planning to setup a web server with Ubuntu. My hardware config is Intel P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB ram and 40GB HDD. And the speed of the internet connection is 256kbps. Will I be able to run a decent web server and sustain a site with about 10 million hits a month?
[09:36] <jeremyb> no
[09:36] <wols> SingAlong: your connection speed is too low, but: #web
[09:36] <jeremyb> 256k is horrible
[09:36] <lwells> I am on a laptop, but do not see any batter level indicator, how do i get that??
[09:37] <bullgard4> buttercups: Please prove your statement that dmesg does not contain timestamps.
[09:37] <nickrud> Arelis, yes to the former, and no knowledge of the latter
[09:37] <wols> bullgard4: how about running "dmesg"
[09:37]  * jeremyb smells bullgard4 and buttercups running in a circle...
[09:37] <SingAlong> jeremyb.... Atleast 1 million hits a month?
[09:37] <nickrud> wols, I kept it for about 2 hours, but I thought it was just me
[09:37] <egs_> i'm having difficulty getting my logitech webcam to work, has anyone here made a logitech quickcam notebook pro work on ubuntu?
[09:37] <buttercups> bullgard4, prove it to you? It simply does not contain timestamps
[09:38] <jeremyb> SingAlong: hits a month is really irrelevant.  and this is the wrong channel as wols said
[09:38] <wols> nickrud: recently (mnmeonica) had a big problem with XGL. prevented his X from working at all btw
[09:38] <wols> and IIRC XGL and games don't mix at all. either/or, not both
[09:39] <wols> egs_: check what usb chip it uses, google for it and you will know
[09:39] <SingAlong> jeremyb: ?? which channel is dedicated to ubuntu server edition on freenode?
[09:39] <suttin> I cant seem to get my graphics worked out. I have an x800 card with my drivers installed, but i cant go past an 800x600 resolution. The restricted drivers are checked, but they say they aren't in use, anyone know whats going on?
[09:39] <bullgard4> buttercups: Tell me what the information content of  [16.094052] is.
[09:39] <gordonjcp> buttercups: I can see timestamps in dmesg
[09:39] <jeremyb> SingAlong: it has nothing to do with ubuntu... wols suggested #web
[09:39] <wols> SingAlong: it's no ubuntu support question, hence why no ubuntu channel is on topic for your question. I told you: #ewb
[09:39] <buttercups> bullgard4, kern.log does , dmesg does not include them in the output
[09:40] <wols> SingAlong: but as jeremyb already said: hits are irrelevant and 256k is always too low for any serious webhosting
[09:40] <SingAlong> ok sorry guys.....
[09:40] <jeremyb> hits are relevant but hits per month aren't really
[09:40] <gordonjcp> buttercups: I just typed dmesg and I can clearly see timestamps
[09:41] <jeremyb> sigh
[09:41] <jeremyb> i was typing...
[09:41] <wols> gordonjcp: /bin/dmesg ?
[09:41] <Gluesticky> Is there some default root password when I first install ubuntu?
[09:41] <egs_> ok, how do i disable the "X has joined #ubuntu" and "X has quit" messages in xchat?
[09:41] <gordonjcp> wols: yes
[09:42] <wols> Gluesticky: no, there is no root password at all
[09:42] <Gluesticky> er ok
[09:42] <Hyper_Mam> hiho, I have a problem:  I just changed from Xubuntu to Ubuntu and I don't get the window decorations in Compiz anymore. I can't resize windows, I can't move them.... any suggestion?
[09:42] <nickrud> buttercups, bullgard4 this may not be definitive, but http://kerneltrap.org/node/8375
[09:43] <gordonjcp> !sudo | Gluesticky
[09:43] <ubotu> Gluesticky: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:43] <_gpg_> helo
[09:43] <egs_> Hyper_Mam: you need to apt-get update, then probably switch to a specific graphics driver from the card vendor (e.g. ati).
[09:43] <_gpg_> when i run Assaultcube the characterSet isnt readable can any one help me to change it please ?
[09:43] <Hyper_Mam> egs_: nothing with the driver... cube and all the other stuff works
[09:43] <suttin> I cant seem to get my graphics worked out. I have an x800 card with my drivers installed, but i cant go past an 800x600 resolution. The restricted drivers are checked, but they say they aren't in use, anyone know whats going on?
[09:44] <Hyper_Mam> egs_: just not the window decorations
[09:44] <speck> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on my friends self-made computer. When he loads the CD it goes to a initramfs prompt. I googled this extensively and could find no solutions -- can anyone here provide insight? Thanks!
[09:44] <egs_> Hyper_Mam: ok, I see, no idea then.
[09:44] <wols> suttin: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <nickrud> wols, I had no problems with xgl, but dropped fglrx for suspend with the new kernel.
[09:44] <aceedevill> hey, i'm completely new to this, i have downloaded the iso and burned it to a cd, but is this just an installer or will it run live aswell?
[09:45] <suttin> wols: you want me to paste it?
[09:45] <egs_> aceedevil: it's both.
[09:45] <wols> aceedevill: will run live as well
[09:45] <nickrud> aceedevill, if you got the 'desktop' cd, it's live and an installer
[09:45] <aceedevill> is there a menu i have to choose from?
[09:45] <egs_> anyone using xchat here?
[09:45] <Hyper_Mam> egs_: same here... that's why I thought I'd ask in here
[09:45] <wols> speck: tell us the error(s)
[09:45] <FluxD> If I install kubuntu-desktop, will it give me an option in the login screen to choose?
[09:45] <wols> FluxD: yes, kdm
[09:45] <FluxD> egs_: yes
[09:46] <aceedevill> oh, and does anyone know the boot screen key for an hp
[09:46] <speck> wols: Are the errors in a log? There were no errors on the screen along with the initramfs prompt.
[09:46] <nickrud> FluxD, it'll be under the options button, look at sessions there
[09:46] <wols> speck: there was an error on screen
[09:46] <FluxD> wols: I mean all I do is install it and I can logout and login and switch to the KDE internface?
[09:46] <egs_> how can I suppress the "X has joined #ubuntu" announcements in xchat?
[09:46] <dave81> !acounts
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acounts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <wols> egs_: #xchat
[09:46] <dave81> !accounts
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about accounts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <speck> wols: OK, I will try to go through the process again and I will report what the error is. Will you be around for the next hour or so and is it OK if I PM you?
[09:46] <nickrud> egs_, right click the #ubuntu on the left, and tell it to stop
[09:47] <FluxD> egs_: what nickrud sai :p
[09:47] <egs_> nickrud: awesome, thank you!
[09:47] <suttin> wols: here you go Driver          "kbd"
[09:47] <suttin>         Driver          "mouse"
[09:47] <suttin>         Driver          "fglrx"
[09:47] <suttin>         Driver          "ati"
[09:47] <Gluesticky> this is very weird
[09:47] <wols> suttin: you have ati and fglrx set up? your xorg.conf is broken
[09:47] <FluxD> !paste | suttin
[09:47] <ubotu> suttin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:47] <wols> suttin: and you are an *unspeakable* for pasting in here
[09:47] <suttin> sorry fluxd, i forgot
[09:47] <aceedevill> oh, and does anyone know the boot screen key for an hp
[09:48] <wols> aceedevill: #hardware
[09:48] <aceedevill> thanks
[09:48] <suttin> wols: what should i do?
[09:48] <wols> you should not paste in here
[09:48] <jeremyb> wols: i sent him back here now that he's asking about machine endurance/uptime/etc. :)
[09:49] <suttin> wols: other than that :(
[09:49] <Ce_mOeTz> hy
[09:49] <egs_> is there a forum for video or for webcams?
[09:49] <egs_> channel i mean
[09:49] <wols> !webcam
[09:49] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:49] <egs_> thanks!
[09:49] <drafael> hey, does anyone have any idea how I can get sed to only replace a string if it the next or previous character is not ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ_0123456789?
[09:50] <jeremyb> wols: and he /quit... welp don't think we would have gotten him thinking straight anyway :-/
[09:50] <aceedevill> they aren't giving me anything
[09:51] <aceedevill> :\
[09:52] <egs_> drafael: sed s/[^A-Z0-9_]string[^A-Z0-9_]/replacement/
[09:52] <Johnson> hey i need some help setting up my monitors
[09:52] <drafael> thanks, I'll try that
[09:52] <drafael> :)
[09:52] <Flynsarmy> I heard there was a way to get VPNC in the network drop down list in the taskbar. Does anyone know how?
[09:53] <Johnson> i attached a monitor to my laptop via vga, then it found the monitor and displayed the same desktop on both screens. i changed the settigns it said i needed to log out, the computer stalled and restarted in low graphics mode and my resolution right now is quit bad
[09:53] <suttin> wols: do you have any ideas?
[09:53] <Johnson> can anyone help
[09:53] <Johnson> !resolution
[09:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:54] <ricanelite> anyone use Compiz-Fuzion?
[09:54] <ricanelite> Fusion*
[09:54] <wols> !anyone
[09:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:55] <drafael> egs_: thank you, that helps greatly
[09:55] <egs_> drafael: no problem
[09:57] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: i use fusion, but if you need help #compiz-fusion's available :)
[09:57] <aceedevill> thanks for your help guys
[09:57] <aceedevill> bye
[09:58] <Jimnastics_> why is there no need for an antivirus in linux?
[09:58] <Jimnastics_> !antivirus
[09:58] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[09:59] <Jimnastics_> !linuxvirus
[09:59] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:59] <nickrud> Jimnastics_, because so few people use linux the virii writers don't waste their time
[09:59] <speck> wols: Don't mean to pester, but I'm still wondering how much longer you'll be available to follow up on my initramfs question, and whether it is OK to PM you. Thanks!
[09:59] <ricanelite> you use which version kito?
[09:59] <Jimnastics_> nickrud is that the only reason?
[10:00] <nickrud> Jimnastics_, no, see the link above. But social engineering could get onto some machines, but it's not productive
[10:00] <aolaus> I'm a complete noob in this area
[10:00] <aolaus> but wouldn't the various kernels retard the growth of any virus?
[10:01] <aolaus> windows is a monoculture
[10:01] <wols> albech: viruses haee nothing to do with kernels at all
[10:02] <Johnson> hey can anyone help me set up two monitors
[10:02] <Johnson> its kind of working write now except i cant fully drag application into one monitor,m and i also cnat switch which one is default
[10:02] <jeremyb> right*
[10:02] <kitofhawaii> nickrud: social engineering's one of the most effective ways of getting access...:) hence why two-factor authentication's such a rage
[10:03] <ricanelite> how can i update compiz to 6.0? currently using 5.0
[10:03] <nickrud> kitofhawaii, I just thank god that thunderbird & evolution don't run things
[10:03] <wols> !info compiz
[10:03] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:03] <wols> Rockj: there is no versin 6.0 of it
[10:04] <wols> ricanelite: ^^
[10:05] <kitofhawaii> nickrud: oye...naw, novell makes enough problems of their own without help from virii :)
[10:05] <nickrud> kitofhawaii, and I used to have the utmost respect for miguel ;(
[10:06] <tarelerulz> How would you get it so ubuntu 7.10   showed all what it was doing .  The one that has penguin  on top and show all the all the things what would being done on boot
[10:07] <blues> hello
[10:07] <blues> I have problem with screensaver in recent ubuntu
[10:07] <blues> it causes X crash when trying to enter screensaver settings
[10:08] <nickrud> tarelerulz, you'd have to set up your framebuffer with a logo; to just see the text fly by remove quiet splash vga=xxx from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:08] <kitofhawaii> nickrud: last time novell released a finished product was netware 5.1. ever since then, you never have any idea what they're going to release. going through netware 6.0 and 6.5, i still have nightmares about consoleone
[10:08] <blues> is it known bug?
[10:09] <nickrud> kitofhawaii, ah, that part of novell. I remember using it in the 80's (no sneakernet!) but don't know enough to have any opinion
[10:10] <tarelerulz> Well,  Nickrud , I ill have to do that. Thanks for the help. It is not something that needs to be done to my system. I just have all ways liked how it looked.  I had it on all my other Linux systems
[10:11] <ricanelite> well i meant 0.6
[10:11] <ricanelite> compiz-fusion 0.6.0
[10:11] <nickrud> tarelerulz, yeah, it does look nice. Had it set up when I really used the console, the extra real estate was really nice
[10:11] <zimon> ricanelite, what ubuntu-version are you using?
[10:12] <ricanelite> 7.10 Gusty
[10:12] <romantik> hello
[10:12] <ricanelite> hey roman
[10:13] <romantik> is there any SanDisk Sansa e200 Series channel on irc anywhere?
[10:13] <tarelerulz> Nickrud when I started out on Linux on the Xbox and other computer  it was one of  the things that made it different .  Windows just showed a bar  and did not tell you anything .
[10:13] <romantik> i need some help
[10:14] <zimon> ricanelite, so you should have 0.6.0 already .. if not, do an upgrade
[10:14] <ricanelite> ok
[10:14] <ricanelite> thanks
[10:15] <welp> jeremyb, i was never ill.
[10:15] <ricanelite> how do i kill a program or window like the "About Me" I cannot close it
[10:15] <ricanelite> how can I kill that Window
[10:15] <ricanelite> without restarting x?
[10:16] <romantik> i have filled two tags for my mp3s (the Artist and the Song Name) but those files are displayed in the form of somename.mp3 and not as  Artist - Song Name
[10:16] <Ax-Ax> how can i check free space on my partitions in cli?
[10:16] <nickrud> ricanelite, alt-f2 : xkill , click the window
[10:16] <romantik> I have SanDisk Sansa e260 mp3 player
[10:16] <romantik> please help
[10:16] <ec34534> Ax-Ax: df -h
[10:16] <Ax-Ax> ok
[10:16] <duudii> who mentioned my name?
[10:16] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: "sudo killall processname" or "sudo kill processid" which you can get from system monitor
[10:17] <romantik> duudii, help
[10:17] <romantik> I have SanDisk Sansa e260 mp3 player
[10:17] <romantik> i have filled two tags for my mp3s (the Artist and the Song Name) but those files are displayed in the form of somename.mp3 and not as  Artist - Song Name
[10:18] <romantik> what can i do that my mp3 pšlayer will display my mp3s in the form of, for example, Linkin Park - In the End      (and not as linkin_park.mp3)
[10:18] <romantik> ???
[10:18] <romantik> anyone, help
[10:18] <romantik> please
[10:19] <kitofhawaii> romantik: you check your sansa user guide?
[10:19] <romantik> yes
[10:19] <romantik> there's no help on my problem
[10:19] <aolaus> how did yo ufill those tags?
[10:19] <romantik> there's also no help on my problem in any forums
[10:19] <romantik> i have filled these tags with EasyTAG
[10:20] <kitofhawaii> romantik: i dunno, i have a zune. it works. :)
[10:20] <ricanelite> with any game i run like Nexuiz I should turn off 3d desktop effects?
[10:20] <romantik> is it for linux?
[10:20] <aolaus> yeah.. probably something with the easytag program
[10:20] <romantik> i have Ubuntu 7.10
[10:20] <aolaus> if this program is supposed to name all your files
[10:20] <aolaus> and you didn't configure it the way you wanted
[10:20] <IRCMonkey> If VLC does not play 'FLV' files what codecs am I missing??
[10:20] <aolaus> I am guessing that this is the result
[10:20] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: yes...alt-f2 "metacity --replace" in gnome, and then alt-f2 "compiz --replace" to get it back after playing your game
[10:21] <Hyper_Mam> hiho, where can I change the default image viewer? when I right-click and select "open with" it works but I can't assign another default
[10:21] <aolaus> try to see if easytag has an alternate way of naming files
[10:21] <romantik> aolaus, what do you mean by 'alternate'?
[10:21] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: assuming you're using gnome...i think it's "kde-window-manager --replace" for kde...but i don't run it
[10:21] <aolaus> um well
[10:21] <aolaus> some programs let you specify
[10:22] <sjovan> Hyper_Mam: properties of the file-type you want to change default
[10:22] <aolaus> exactly how you want the filename to appear
[10:22] <aolaus> which sounds like what you're looking for
[10:22] <aolaus> for example, streamripper
[10:22] <romantik> aolaus, aha
[10:22] <aolaus> lets you format the filename
[10:22] <Hyper_Mam> sjovan: how do you do that?
[10:22] <aolaus> any way you want
[10:22] <aolaus> but I don't know how this easytag thing works
[10:22] <romantik> aolaus, is streamripper for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <aolaus> sure
[10:22] <ricanelite> im using Gnome
[10:22] <aolaus> sudo apt-get install streamripper
[10:22] <romantik> aolaus, and for GNOME?
[10:22] <vladtzu> Is it at all common for pidgin and firefox to crash on 7.10 ?
[10:23] <sjovan>  Hyper_Mam: right-click --> properties maby?
[10:23] <aolaus> but.. streamripper is a program to save internet streams to hard disk
[10:23] <aolaus> it is not an mp3 labeling program lol
[10:23] <sjovan> vladtzu: NO!
[10:23] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: then alt-f2 "metacity --replace" kills compiz.  alt-f2 "compiz --replace" brings it back
[10:23] <romantik> aolaus, i've tried amarok but this did not found my device once it was plugged in
[10:23] <aolaus> I've never used amarok
[10:23] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: (play game in between the commands)
[10:23] <vladtzu> sjovan:  I didn't imagine.  Both of them have been crashing on me on occasion, and I really have no clue why.  With firefox, the flash plugin caused it the most, so I got rid of it, but I have no clue why pidgin is.
[10:23] <Hyper_Mam> sjovan: that's not so obvious...I did right-click --> open with     --> and in xfce, kde, windows you'll get an option to assign the new open with program as default
[10:24] <aolaus> try googling sansa e260 amarok
[10:24] <romantik> aolaus, i want to have a good mp3 labeling program that works on Ubuntu and GNOME
[10:24] <aolaus> maybe you'll find a solution
[10:24] <aolaus> you burn mp3s from cd or something?
[10:24] <romantik> aolaus, i have tried amarok... it did not recognised my device at all
[10:24] <aolaus> why not just name the files yourself?
[10:24] <egs_> romantik: easytag is decent
[10:25] <romantik> egs_, yes but then the Artist and Song Name are not displayed in the mp3 player
[10:25] <romantik> egs_, only the filename is displayed, which is not my preference
[10:25] <sjovan> vladtzu: how does opera work then? if it workes then problem solved, cause it's much bether then firefox :D try out finch. it's a text-based pidgen. you can screen it and use it remotely like i'm doing now
[10:25] <egs_> easytag should be able to extract those names and set them in ID3v2 tags.
[10:26] <egs_> I have used it many times to do precisely that.
[10:26] <romantik> aolaus, it does
[10:26] <ricanelite> wow thats for that tip kitofhawaii
[10:26] <romantik> egs_, it's just that sansa e260 does not, somehow, recognize those two tags
[10:26] <ec34534> romantik: are you aware that there are two types of id3 tags, id3 v1 and id3 v2? maybe the sandisk player supports only one type and cannot read the other.
[10:26] <kitofhawaii> ricanelite: yw
[10:26] <sjovan> vladtzu: maby #pidgin can tell you seomthing about your problem... do you have any errors with firefox or?
[10:27] <lonejack> I need an advice regarding linux installation, should somebody telle me if ubuntu is a valid choice to do a web server, has somebody adopted VNC
[10:27] <Johnson> hey can anyone help set up dual monitors
[10:27] <romantik> ec34534, i am aware of that
[10:27] <ec34534> romantik: so can you check which id3 tag type you have set with easytag?
[10:28] <egs_> I suspect your player expects ID3 version 2 tags, and you have version 1 tags attached.
[10:28] <ricanelite> is there a site where they have tips and shortcuts like using commands, terminal help
[10:28] <romantik> i don't know how to retrieve that particular info
[10:28] <vladtzu> sjovan: No errors, flash in particular just made it lock up from time to time.  I got rid of the flash plugin, but it still does on occasion.  PIdgin never gives any error message just locks up completely at random every now and again.  I'll check out #pidgin.  I wouldn't mind switching either one, so I probably will, I was just worried about them being symptoms of something else.
[10:28] <sjovan> Hyper_Mam: it's bloody obvious when i say properties of the file-type ypu want to change.... anyways, a thanks would be nice
[10:28] <Johnson> im trying to make my vga monitor become the primiary monitor instead of my laptop
[10:28] <romantik> because EasyTAG is poor in displaying the info of tha tag it was created
[10:28] <Johnson> i change it in settings it says i must log out, and it screws up without fail everytime and my laptop is primary monitor
[10:29] <romantik> it does the job but it's kinda poor
[10:29] <vladtzu> sjovan:  The only thing suspect I can think of with my setup is that my hard drives are listed as sda and sdb in /dev even though neither one is scsi
[10:29] <ec34534> romantik: i don't use easytag at all. my choice is the command line tool id3v2 (which can set either tag type)
[10:29] <egs_> romantik: esaytag > Settings > Preferences > ID3 Tag Settings
[10:29] <vladtzu> I have no clue what that would have to do with it though lol
[10:29] <egs_> romantik: make sure v2 AND v1 are both checked.
[10:29] <ec34534> romantik: alright, listen to egs_
[10:29] <Johnson> !monitor
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <romantik> egs_, i don't have that menu choice ID3 Tag Settings
[10:30] <Johnson> !dualhead
[10:30] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:30] <sjovan> vladtzu: that's just the way it is on ubuntu. it supos to be that way
[10:30] <sjovan> supose*
[10:30] <egs_> romantik: easytag > Help > About - what's the versoin of easytag?
[10:30] <jxxt> ricanelite, Yes there is I am away from my home country at the moment so I cannot remember them but start with the ubuntu links
[10:30] <drafael> I've had some luck with "echo antigens gen | sed "s/[^A-Za-z0-9_]gen[^A-Za-z0-9_]/replace/g" (as an example) - it doesn't pick up antigens (hooray!). how would I make it pick up gens though? thanks
[10:30] <sjovan>  vladtzu: so it's almost a fresh install? maby sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade could help you out. <---that's a big maby
[10:31] <ricanelite> ok
[10:31] <ricanelite> i do some searching around thanks
[10:31] <romantik> egs_, the version of easyTAG is 2.1.2
[10:31] <romantik> by me
[10:31] <egs_> romantik: look more carefully, it's a tab labelled "ID3 Tag Settings"
[10:32] <romantik> egs_, aha!
[10:32] <vladtzu> sjovan:  Yeah, only about 4 days, but I've ran the update each day.   I guess it could be the two programs are my most resource intensive applications.  I have plenty of ram and cpu power, but I overheat sometimes.  Still it seems like if they were causing hardware problems, the whole system would crash eh?
[10:32] <romantik> egs_, found it
[10:32] <romantik> now what?
[10:32] <egs_> romantik: check automatically convert old v2 versions
[10:33] <egs_> romantik: check write ID2v2 tag
[10:33] <egs_> romantik: check write ID3v1 tag
[10:33] <romantik> egs_, it is
[10:33] <romantik> egs_, i think i know what the problem is
[10:33] <egs_> romantik: all three are checked
[10:33] <egs_> romantik: what's the problem?
[10:34] <romantik> egs_, i have read in some forum that sansa e260 cannot handle ID3v2.4 but only ID3v2.3
[10:34] <egs_> romantik: excellent, then uncheck "automatically convert old versions" and select "v2.3" instead of "v2.4"
[10:35] <romantik> egs_, i'll test all settings
[10:35] <romantik> egs_, i'll test all combinations of the settings
[10:35] <romantik> egs_, it'll last a long time but i'll do it
[10:35] <egs_> romantik: great, happy listening.
[10:35] <romantik> thank you
[10:36] <romantik> thank you all
[10:36] <romantik> be well
[10:36] <romantik> ;)
[10:36] <romantik> bye
[10:36] <ec34534> romantik: that's what happens if a format isn't standardized well
[10:36] <romantik> yeah :)
[10:36] <romantik> egs_, thanks
[10:36] <romantik> bye
[10:38] <MZM> I have problem with 7.10 - install hangs at 9X% on "detecting hardware" (Athlon XP CPU w nForce2 mb)
[10:40] <Webspot> Hi. I have two sound cards and I'd like to make one of them the default. How do I do this? Everytime I start my computer it's a 50/50 chance what soundcard will be selected as the default.
[10:40] <grindcore> hi , who can help me with this please :
[10:40] <grindcore> Failed to run users-admin as user root.
[10:40] <grindcore> The underlying authorisation mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[10:40] <Webspot> grindcore: The user account you're trying to use doesn't have permission to open the users admin box.
[10:41] <grindcore> Webspot - i was trying something and i turn off all pemisions of my account :( can u help me please ?
[10:41] <ompaul> grindcore, click on system administration users and groups ... use your own password
[10:42] <amrnet> hi i installed window after installing ubuntu is there a way to fix grub from the livecd?
[10:42] <ec34534> grindcore: a user needs to be in the group "admin" to run sudo
[10:42] <grindcore> ompaul this message is from exactly of this users and groups - i cannot run this tool and setup everything back
[10:43] <ompaul> grindcore, trying things with your main account is not a great idea if this is what you have done - the fastest surest way to sort it out is with a livecd - got one to hand?
[10:43] <amrnet> i know that was a frequently asked question but i forgot how to do it a link to a doc will e great. How to reinstall grub
[10:43] <ec34534> grindcore: if you removed yourself from the "admin" group, you can only fix this from a live cd or by booting with init=/bin/bash
[10:43] <cihan253> hello I need to give command "sudo modprobe uinput" everytime when I boot linux. is there any simple way to do it?
[10:43] <cihan253> I mean adding somewhere so it would be given
[10:44] <grindcore> ec34534 and how to do it with live cd ?
[10:44] <egs_>  how can i use pidgin to connect to this irc channel?
[10:44] <sjovan>  grindcore: why have you made a user with that name? isen't it enough with your user, root and maby a guest account?
[10:44] <ompaul> !root | sjoerd
[10:44] <ubotu> sjoerd: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:45] <sjoerd> ompaul: humm?
[10:45] <ompaul> guest accounts are bad ;-) and there is no access to root - as our friend has discovered
[10:45] <grindcore> i just need to fix it as quick as possible because i need to burn one dvd and go out
[10:45] <neus> Hey guys, how can I use an unsafe password for my account? passwd keeps complaining my password is too simpe.
[10:45] <ec34534> grindcore: in either case it will be some command line work
[10:45] <amrnet> !fix MBR
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix mbr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <egs_> grindcore: what's your password? :-)
[10:45] <ompaul> grindcore, got your live cd - reboot come back and we can talk you though it easy enough
[10:46] <egs_> grindcore: wait wait, let me guess... can't be too hard.
[10:46] <sjovan>  ompaul: blah... i have su on my ubuntu
[10:46] <sjovan> so a root account can exist
[10:46] <ec34534> sjovan: well that's your problem
[10:46] <grindcore> ompaul - i have live cd
[10:47] <kitofhawaii> root definitely exists...just made inconvenient by ubuntu
[10:47] <sjovan> ec34534: no it's nice to have, so you don't have t sudo every time you want to do something
[10:47] <ompaul> sjovan, ya, but that is not way we do it - what you do in the privacy of your own command line is your call
[10:47] <ompaul> grindcore, reboot with it and come back and join us
[10:47] <egs_> ompaul: ok, sorry about the joke.
[10:47] <nyoro> Hi, what is the difference between the nv and the nvidia driver?
[10:47] <ompaul> egs_, as someone said you know now ;-)
[10:47] <grindcore> ompaul - and what i need to select - recovery ?
[10:47] <jw> hi. did anyone install ubuntu on hp 6720s?
[10:48] <ec34534> sjovan: even without a password set for the root accout you can have a permanent root shell
[10:48] <ompaul> grindcore, no just reboot with the live cd and when you get your desktop join us
[10:48] <grindcore> ompaul - ok :)
[10:48] <egs_> when I use pidgin to connect to this channel, it requires a password. where do i get that password?
[10:48] <sjovan>  ec34534: huh?
[10:48] <wols> nyoro: nvidia one is clsoed sourec and does 3D
[10:48] <ompaul> egs_, there is no password
[10:49] <ec34534> sjovan: i guess you never read the sudo manpage
[10:49] <drafael> any suggestions on using sed to find and replace something like "gen" but not "antigen5" without removing characters either side of "gen" using sed?
[10:49] <nyoro> wols: ok
[10:49] <sjovan> ec34534: nope, i never did :) maby it's time i do it
[10:49] <ec34534> sjovan: otherwise you'd know the -s option
[10:49] <ompaul> !rootsudo | sjovan (strongly suggest you read the web page here -  it tells you lots and lots)
[10:49] <ubotu> sjovan (strongly suggest you read the web page here -  it tells you lots and lots): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:49] <differentreality> is there an option for unrar command so that after a successfull unrar of rar parts, the rars are deleted ?
[10:49] <egs_> then I guess I'm having difficulty connecting here through pidgin.
[10:51] <sjovan> ec34534: aaaa... stay root he? but any ways... nice to have a root, what if your account gets damaged for some strange reason?
[10:51] <nyoro> I've enabled the proprietary driver in restricted drivers settings. However whenever i try to set the driver to nvidia in screens and graphics it jumps back to the vesa driver upon logout. What do I need to do? My card is a 8800 GTS. I've seen the pages from obuto, it didnt help.
[10:51] <Ihatefeckingcd> Hi, is there a simple whay to install ubuntu without a disc? Either cd or dvd? Obviously, I do have the disc image :-)
[10:51] <drafael> differentreality: you could make a simple script and mark executable + put it in libraries
[10:51] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: not according to the man page, but that's not surprising (i doubt the function to delete the rar would be built into unrar, what would happen if the unrar failed?)
[10:51] <ec34534> sjovan: in that case you can always boot with init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line and fix it
[10:52] <ompaul> !install | Ihatefeckingcd (you got a working cd seems like a waste)
[10:52] <ubotu> Ihatefeckingcd (you got a working cd seems like a waste): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:52] <zimon> drafael, mh .. you could filter antigen5 before replacing gen ..
[10:52] <grindcore> ompaul so I'm here again :)
[10:52] <grindcore> ompaul - what i need to do now ?
[10:52] <sjovan> ec34534: how can you fix any thing if your account is damaged?
[10:52] <differentreality> kitofhawaii, no there would be some checking, the deleting would only occur if unrar was successful
[10:53] <ec34534> sjovan: init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line will give you a root shell after boot
[10:53] <drafael> zimon, it's for a script I'm making - it's going through C code and replacing variables which I can then redeclare, mainly to prove a point :)
[10:53] <vladtzu> If I download a package from the gutsy repo, like opera, will it still get updated during system updates?
[10:53] <ompaul> grindcore, applications accessories terminal - in there do sudo -i
[10:53] <differentreality> drafael, it's just that i'm not so familiar with linux yet... that's why i'm askig if there is already anoption
[10:53] <Shearer> hi
[10:53] <egsegsegs> test
[10:53] <ec34534> sjovan: the kernel starts a shell instead of the /sbin/init binary
[10:53] <Ihatefeckingcd> ompaul - alas I have the downloaded iso but no cd to burn it on. It's sunday here - in the middle of nowhere and not a cd shop in site :-)
[10:54] <ec34534> egsegsegs: ...failed :)
[10:54] <sjovan> ec34534: like you loose all your priv. for some strange reason...
[10:54] <sjovan> ec34534: pluss the colors in the terminal is so nice when you su  :D
[10:54] <grindcore> ompaul - yes and i've put my password :) whats next :)
[10:54] <egs_> thanks all, i got pidgin to work.
[10:54] <drafael> differentreality: if you attach " && rm file.rar" to the end of your command it'll remove it anyway if unrar completes successfully
[10:54] <egs_> ec34534, you too!
[10:54] <Ihatefeckingcd> but ubotu - the only bot I actually like - comes to the rescue ;-)
[10:55] <ompaul> grindcore, type this:  fdisk -l     (that is a lower case L)
[10:55] <drafael> differentreality: that's why I suggested a script something like "#!/bin/bash<newline>unrar -options $1 && rm $1"
[10:55] <Shearer> is not good to install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu?
[10:56] <ompaul> grindcore, have you many partitions with the word "linux" against them ?
[10:56] <differentreality> drafael, the thing is that i have rar files in parts... when i unrar file1.part1.rar  it automatically goes to the next part ..
[10:56] <riotosaurus> dont they need to prefix fdisk -l with sudo?
[10:56]  * riotosaurus shuts up
[10:56] <differentreality> sto my input to unrar is only part1.rar
[10:56] <ompaul> riotosaurus, not the way I have em doing it
[10:56] <josh__> SUP!
[10:56] <differentreality> but i want to delete all parts used.
[10:56] <zimon> drafael, well .. you need some special characters (like whitespace) around the "gen"s you want to replace .. otherwise you can't express that in a regular expression
[10:56] <riotosaurus> ompaul: i should have known. :p
[10:56] <ompaul> !enter | differentreality
[10:56] <ubotu> differentreality: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:56] <josh__> Well, get a bigger hammer
[10:56] <Jimnastics_> How can I solve this error? XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0
[10:57] <ompaul> !offtopic | josh__
[10:57] <ubotu> josh__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:57] <zimon> drafael, maybe you should use perl :-)
[10:57] <drafael> zimon, drat... I was hoping I could avoid forcing a non-cramped coding style :[
[10:57] <drafael> zimon, haha, I'm starting early on C because I probably need to know it at uni next year for engineering
[10:58] <intrepidlytrite> Hey, I've got a webcam question, anyone here familiar with that area?
[10:58] <kitofhawaii> drafael: relish it.  when i went to engineering school i got stuck with fortran
[10:58] <ompaul> !webcam | intrepidlytrite
[10:58] <ubotu> intrepidlytrite: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:58] <Jimnastics_> ?
[10:58] <drafael> differentreality: well, If I were you I'd make a couple of dummy parted rar files and play around with a script until you get something that works
[10:58] <drafael> kitofhawaii: am I very ignorant in not knowing what that is x_x lol
[10:59] <egs_> intrepidlytrite: i've been trying to get my webcam to work as well
[10:59] <differentreality> :)
[10:59] <grindcore> h
[10:59] <kitofhawaii> drafael: uhm...great...now i feel old :) thanks :)
[10:59] <drafael> differentreality: for scripting, I found this a great place to start: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html - you won't need anything too complicated anyway
[11:00] <intrepidlytrite> thanks for the triggers, but I've been through all these...the thing is, my cam is supported, dmesg says it's initialized ok...but screens in all apps are black
[11:00] <zimon> kitofhawaii, fortran is still learned by engineers ... never heard of anyone learning c.
[11:00] <differentreality> drafael, tnx a lot :D i'm goint to check it out now!
[11:00] <drafael> kitofhawaii: haha sorry :P I'll learn
[11:00] <drafael> differentreality: np, hopefully you get a solution easily enough ^^
[11:00] <kitofhawaii> zimon: thank you...now i feel better :) now what about my vax/vms assembly classes?
 what kind of cam?
[11:01] <ychat> hitane, I upgraded to 7.10 and everytime I boot, boot process stops with some error. I have to add /usr/bin to the path and ctrl-D to continue the booting... how can I avoid this? I have already put export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin in /root/.bashrc but no change.
[11:01] <grindcore> ompaul - can we continue ?
[11:01] <ompaul> grindcore, have you many partitions with the word "linux" against them ?
[11:01] <drafael> zimon: I'm guessing mostly on what friends etc say, and I used C for some demo a uni did - anyway, can't harm me haha
[11:01] <zimon> kitofhawaii, well, i'm not going to be an engineer, but i know they learn fortran and java at my university :-)
[11:02] <ompaul> grindcore, I asked you to do something and then report the result
[11:02] <grindcore> i have just one ext3 partition and then another one on vfat
[11:02] <egs_> intrepidlytrite, what kind of cam do you have? what's the name you see when you do "lsusb" and look at the device descriptor?
[11:02] <ricanelite> can i run amarok on gnome?
[11:02] <ompaul> grindcore, so that ext3 partition what is it called
[11:03] <velko> intrepidlytrite, you need also a driver for the device to work
[11:03] <differentreality> one more thing, if unrar is successful don't i get $? equal to zero ?
[11:03] <ompaul> ricanelite, yes
[11:03] <drafael> kitofhawaii: do you really have to type in allcaps -_-;;
[11:03] <ricanelite> do i need to also install amarok engines?
[11:04] <intrepidlytrite> egs, it's a microdia, in the list of supported cams for skype that's in the ubuntu wiki, it is marked as working
[11:04] <ec34534> differentreality: if unrar uses reasonable exit codes, yes
[11:04] <kitofhawaii> drafael: *scratches head* in VAX? yes. my VAX professor emailed us in all caps. paragraphs of it
[11:04] <grindcore> ompal my ext3 partition is called filesystem in computer look
[11:04] <intrepidlytrite> velko, my dmesg output tells me it's been initialized, using a certain driver...shouldn't that be enough?
[11:04] <aladdinsane> i have a problem: I would like to have a program with which i could watch real media rtsp streams, I right now use Helix/real player cause thats the only one i have found that allows me to fast forward in the video(mplayer doesn't). But the problem with helix is that i cant chose Alsa and therefore it seems to "lock" the sounddriver to it self, which is not the case with mplayer. so if anyone know how i can get helix to work with Alsa i wo
[11:05] <drafael> kitofhawaii: "/kills self" - If if have to I'll probably just make myself an allcaps conversion script lol
[11:05] <ompaul> grindcore, type this:  fdisk -l     (that is a lower case L)   -- I want that result
[11:05] <egs_> intrepidlytrite, which video driver are you using? uvcvideo?
[11:05] <drafael> differentreality: $1 is the first argument, e.g if you typed scriptname -x, $1=-x
[11:06] <velko> intrepidlytrite, i was able to see my webcam trough "sudo lsusb" and in dmesg but wasn't able to use it until i loaded the kernel module "gspca" (it's a logitech webcam)
[11:07] <egs_> velko: having trouble with a logitech webcam here. how did you load gspca? every time i plug in, uvcvideo gets loaded.
[11:07] <kitofhawaii> drafael: nah...actually VAX assembly language was a higher level programming language than C++..i never got over programming machine code using something that looked like basic
[11:07] <grindcore> ompaul - doesnt show anything :(
[11:07] <differentreality> drafael, yes i know $1 :) (one of the little things i do know..) the thing is how I will be able to check if unrar was successful..
[11:07] <MZM> differentreality: $?
[11:07] <intrepidlytrite> egs, how do I find that out again?
[11:08] <ec34534> ompaul: i cannot answer your query, i am not registered at the moment
[11:08] <egs_> "lsusb"
[11:08] <egs_> oops, "lsmod"
[11:08] <differentreality> i type $? press enter and get the msg bash: 0: command not found
[11:08] <ec34534> differentreality: echo $?
[11:08] <velko> egs_, i either use the precompiled gscpa modules for my current kernel or the gspca sources (and compile them against the kernel with module-assistent)
[11:08] <ompaul> grindcore, you are not doing it right, Q1 have you a terminal open? Q2 did you type sudo -i in it Q3 fdisk -l      << where that l is lower case)
[11:08] <ompaul> ec34534, try it I am open to messages from anyone
[11:08] <drafael> differentreality: && should mean "only do the next statement if the previous was successful" although someone correct me very fast if I'm wrong here
[11:08] <differentreality> right :))) ( i get though 127 !! )
[11:09] <differentreality> hahaha
[11:09] <intrepidlytrite> egs, I've got two loaded, one is the gspca and the other the sn9c102
[11:09] <MZM> differentreality: $? is exit code of last command. Try "echo $?"
[11:09] <egs_> velko, i have gspca compiled and installed. but when I plug the cam in, it loads uvcvideo instead
[11:09] <differentreality> drafael,  i hope you are not cause i'm gonna try do this script really soon :P
[11:09] <drafael> differentreality: for the love of love, test it first x_x
[11:09] <velko> egs_, strange. on my machine uvcvideo is not loaded at all
[11:10] <differentreality> MZM, no that doesnt work.. echo $? does work... it's just weird that i get 127 instead of 0 since the unrar was successful...
[11:10] <differentreality> drafael, i will :)
[11:10] <grindcore> ompaul - i've done everything how u said and now i tried again - doesnt show nothing
[11:10] <velko> egs_, gscpa uses videodev, v4l2_common and v4l1_compat
[11:11] <ompaul> grindcore, it has to - thats the law
[11:11] <MZM> differentreality: try this: "nonexistingcommand" enter "echo $?" enter "echo $?" enter
[11:11] <riotosaurus> *cough*prefix with sudo*cough*
[11:11] <drafael> kitofhawaii: well, I like what little C I know so far anyway, whatever the future may bring - it seems pretty easy to understand, and there are no .'s which I despise -_-;;
[11:11] <drafael> kitofhawaii: or random capitalization
[11:11] <ompaul> grindcore, so one quick question, what does it say in that terminal, what are the words on each side of they    @
[11:11] <egs_> velko, which logitech cam do you have ? mine is a logitech quickcam notebook pro.
[11:11] <ompaul> s/they/the
[11:11] <differentreality> yeah.. that works fine.. i get 127 and then 0
[11:11] <kblin> hi folks
[11:12] <differentreality> hmm..
[11:12] <differentreality> let me try it with unrar one more time
[11:12] <velko> egs_, did you tried to blacklist uvcvideo in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local?
[11:12] <riotosaurus> oh. root terminal. <reshuts up>
[11:12] <egs_> velko, didn't know about that, let me try it...
[11:12] <MZM> differentreality: look for bash built-in exit codes. IIRC 127 was command not found...
[11:12] <zimon> drafael, c is fun .. but you should get used to segfaults, once you're playing around with pointers
[11:13] <differentreality> one more thing..  i've got some filenames that contain space ...
[11:13] <kitofhawaii> drafael: well just one suggestion. comment. when in doubt comment. over comment. or else you'll lose your hair debugging
[11:13] <wols> differentreality:  "\ "
[11:13] <drafael> zimon: I'm still in VERY early stages lol, but okay :D
[11:13] <raj> Hi
[11:13] <velko> egs_, the format is "blacklist uvcvideo". by the way i have blacklisted "snd_usb_audio"
[11:13] <Manny> hi
[11:13] <raj> hi manny
[11:13] <Manny> I use the gutsy+gusty-updates repository
[11:13] <differentreality> wols,  tnx tnx tnx :)
[11:14] <Manny> gutsy-updates provided a libqt4 update: 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1
[11:14] <grindcore> ompaul grindcore@hp:~$
[11:14] <Manny> now, trying to install qt4-dev-tools yields "  qt4-dev-tools: Depends: libqt4-core (= 4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[11:14] <Manny> "
[11:14] <drafael> kitofhawaii: haha, ok - that script I was trying to get a working sed expression for replaces my terrible variable names throughout the script if I comment them in when I declare them, which I prefer doing
[11:14] <velko> egs_, my model is some sort of quickcam also. but can't remember which exactly
[11:14] <kblin> I've got a little problem with name resolution on my local network. My local network is called "dragon.local", my resolv.conf says "search dragon.local" if I do a "getent hosts cookiebox", that resolves to cookiebox.dragon.local correctly
[11:14] <SiRMenelikCS> alguna alma caritativa me puede ayudar es la primera vez que me contecto con ubuntu y ni idea
[11:14] <drafael> kitofhawaii: it works, but I wanted to make sure it didn't do partial replaces of other strings
[11:14] <grindcore> ompaul - now i have 138s lag :(
[11:14] <ompaul> grindcore, you have not rebooted the Live CD
[11:14] <ultrazauberer> hi
[11:15] <Manny> google doesn't return any results, so either no Qt developer is using gutsy-updates (yet), or I'm doing something wrong, or developers re-compile their packages when something is broken
[11:15] <kblin> however if I do a getent hosts cookiebox.dragon.local, I don't get the hostname resolved
[11:15] <raj> E325: ATTENTION
[11:15] <raj> Found a swap file by the name "/etc/apt/.sources.list.swp"
[11:15] <raj>           owned by: root   dated: Sun Nov 25 20:40:09 2007
[11:15] <raj>          file name: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <raj>           modified: YES
[11:15] <raj>          user name: root   host name: Raj-laptop
[11:15] <raj>         process ID: 6901
[11:15] <raj> While opening file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:15] <egs_> velko, lsusb says "046d:08c3" for mine, what's yours? (trying blacklisting now)
[11:15] <kuse>  I use a dualhead setup with intel-driver and my problem is that the signal to my projector disappears after a couple of minutes after X has started and I have to restart X to get it back, anyone knows what can cause that?
[11:15] <ultrazauberer> can anyone say how can i change the resolution in the console? i think i have now 640x480 but i want to use 1280x800 (if it possible) or 1024x768
[11:15] <ompaul> raj, I'll remove the mute in a min or so when I am sure there is no buffer left
[11:16] <wols> ultrazauberer: kernel parameter vga=
[11:16] <grindcore> ompaul - for sure - i will put the live cd in and when will boot from it - i will select which option ?
[11:16] <yanyujie> HI
[11:16] <ompaul> grindcore, you let it boot naturally
[11:16] <drafael> differentreality: did you get it to work?
[11:17] <toli__> Is there a way to import PST file in 1 of the mail client progs ?
[11:17] <ompaul> !paste | raj
[11:17] <velko> egs_, either 046d:08ad or  046d:c046 (i have webcam and mouse from logitech and cannot tell which is which because lsusb shows both of them as "Logitech, Inc.")
[11:17] <ricanelite> just installed amarok and it is running very slow
[11:17] <grindcore> ompaul - so just put the cd and leave boot onself ?
[11:17] <raj> Found a swap file by the name "/etc/apt/.sources.list.swp"
[11:17] <ompaul> grindcore, yes
[11:17] <grapfe> can somebody help with installing an analog tv tuner?
[11:17] <ubotu> raj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:18] <ec34534> grindcore: make sure the bios is set to boot from cd first
[11:19] <egs_> velko, thanks, gspca isn't working for me -- no device.
[11:19] <eastbay> test
[11:20] <raj> hi ubotu
[11:20] <velko> egs_, is your model listed here? http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[11:21] <differentreality> drafael,  sorry give me a min
[11:22] <egs_> velko: Yes, bridge is spca525a, driver is linux-UVC. Does that mean I should be using uvcvideo?
[11:22] <velko> egs_, it looks like that, yes
[11:22] <burepe> I have a messed up drive. I am trying to format it with qtparted but it won't show up in the program. What can I do to make it appear?
[11:23] <csc`> anyone know a quick 'n dirty line to convert aac to something else (WAV, ogg, w/e)?
[11:23] <egs_> velko, ok, thanks, i'll re-try uvcvideo, which did work better than GSPCA in that it at least created a device for me.
[11:24] <sjovan> can some one explain this for me? http://pastebin.com/d2b17eb67
[11:24] <ricanelite> why is amarok running so slow
[11:24] <Happosade> RAM?
[11:25] <cofeineSunshine> sjoerd, try kill -s 9 <pid>
[11:25] <douma> i need help with audio pls
[11:25] <ricanelite> nah i have 4gigs of ram dual core processor
[11:25] <cofeineSunshine> how to set up usb0 IP adress? it drops imidiatly
[11:25] <ricanelite> can it be im using it wih Gnome?
[11:25] <bullgard4> Why does the time jump backwards in kern.log? In http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19628  time stamps of the format [ 10.687641] originate from dmesg. line #213 (from 16.094052 to 5.352000)?
[11:25] <kitofhawaii> sjovan: your computer's name is analplugg? you must be interesting to know /:)
[11:26] <sjovan>  kitofhawa: hehe.. a firend installed ubuntu for me a long time ago and i haven't botherd to chenge it :)
[11:26] <sjovan>  kitofhawa: i was totaly inocent... playing PS2 a tthe time
[11:27] <HetaUma> I have installed ubuntu on the 1st partion of my laptop and now I want to install windows as well. But it seems that 1st partition has to be M$ compatible sto windows will install. What can I do? thinking of moving linux partion from 1st to 2nd but don't know how
[11:28] <jw> lan on hp 6720 doesn't work
[11:28] <jw> got any ideas?
[11:28] <girl-Sexy> Please, this is important!! entry in www.Man-X.org a died man is on cameras!!!
[11:28] <girl-Sexy> Please, this is important!! entry in www.Man-X.org a died man is on cameras!!!
[11:30] <riotkittie> uhh
[11:30] <ws5> im getting different resolutions in different clients?
[11:30] <ws5> anyone with experience in edubuntu?
[11:31] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: you have a dual core box?
[11:31] <douma> i need help with audio pls
[11:31] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: no.
[11:31] <douma> i dond have audio
[11:32] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: anyway, according to line 350 your clock source was off by ~8 seconds, and it corrected it, hence the drift
[11:32] <bullgard4> douma: Are you a member of the 'audio' group?
[11:33] <douma> no
[11:33] <yommdabomm> How can I find out what commands my keyboard multimedia keys are sending ? (e.g. Volume keys) for setting up remote control...)
[11:34] <zimon> yommdabomm, xev
[11:34] <BruceM91> help: I upgraded to 7.10 last night, and I get two errors 1)HAL failed to start and 2)The wired internet connection isnt working
[11:34] <yommdabomm> zimon : I'll check that, thank you !
[11:34] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: Do you know how many seconds equal -83980732 ns?
[11:34] <dave81> any one here good with python?
[11:34] <egs_> dave81, sure,
[11:34] <wols> !anyone | dave81
[11:35] <bullgard4> douma: You should become a member of the audio group.
[11:35] <ubotu> dave81: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:35] <egs_> velko: giving up on this webcam, will just buy a new one.
[11:35] <yommdabomm> !anyone | yommdabomm
[11:35] <elkbuntu> bullgard4, http://www.google.com.au/search?q=-83980732+nanoseconds+in+seconds
[11:36] <velko> egs_, sorry to hear this. it's listed as supported...
[11:36] <bullgard4> elkbuntu: Why do you direct that message to me?
[11:36] <elkbuntu> bullgard4, because you asked " how many seconds equal -83980732 ns?"
[11:37] <bullgard4> elkbuntu: Learn to read. Then you will know whom I asked and why.
[11:38] <dave81> i am just learning python what would you sugest i use as by editor?
[11:38] <MZM> dave81: vi
[11:38] <zimon> dave81, gedit / kate / vim
[11:38] <jxxt> join '
[11:38] <elkbuntu> bullgard4, learn to not be rude please. i dont have the time to read the scrollback of channels, i just answer questions as i see them.
[11:39] <dave81> ok thank you
[11:39] <wols> dave81: the editor you're most comfortable with. how should we know which one that is?
[11:39] <wols> dave81: python itself comes with IDLE
[11:39] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: oy...i'm not going to bother with you anymore. you've been nothing but a jerk since you came in here to pretty much anyone. advice is free. good luck finding your answer. TSC has to do with your i assume to be amd chip, and it's drifting. http://developer.amd.com/articles.jsp?=92&num=1
[11:39] <ricanelite> if i was to install KDE will it messup my Gnome desktop or Compiz-Fusion or any of my files?
[11:39] <yommdabomm> zimon : xev doesn't show the commands my keyboard are triggering ...
[11:40] <kitofhawaii> elkbuntu: i think he just wanted to rant
[11:41] <Manny> sorry for the repitition, but nobody replied
[11:41] <Manny> I use the gutsy+gusty-updates repository
[11:41] <Manny> now, trying to install qt4-dev-tools yields "  qt4-dev-tools: Depends: libqt4-core (= 4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[11:41] <Manny> google doesn't return any results, so either no Qt developer is using gutsy-updates (yet), or I'm doing something wrong, or developers re-compile their packages when something is broken
[11:42] <zimon> yommdabomm, uhm .. right. it doesn't for me, either. i used that in the past for setting up hotkeys
[11:42] <Manny> i.e. the ubuntu3.1 package is from gutsy-updates, and breaks qt4-dev-tools
[11:42] <ompaul> grindcore, what icons are on the lhs of your monitor?
[11:43] <grindcore> ompaul - i have just live cd - or I think is Live cd for 7.04 - but now I'm on 7.10 - I tried to boot from it - but it stops with x graphic problem - i have ati :( can I somehow turn on access for my burner in k3b ? this is only what I need at the moment - burn one iso dvd
[11:43] <ricanelite> anyone here uses KDE Desktop?
[11:44] <wols> !anyone | ricanelite
[11:44] <ubotu> ricanelite: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:44] <grindcore> what's the lhs :) sorry - I'm absolut noob
[11:44] <yommdabomm> zimon : ok thx for the help :)
[11:44] <ec34534> grindcore: lhs == left hand side i guess
[11:44] <jxxt> ricanelite, Probably more people in #kubuntu
[11:45] <zimon> yommdabomm, what help? :-) sorry .. it used to work, maybe it's the hotkey-setup script that messes things up
[11:45] <differentreality> drafael,  i almost did it... only that if doesn't work.. yet
[11:46] <Link> hi :)
[11:46] <Link> can anyone help me with a network problem??
[11:46] <kitofhawaii> Link: what's your issue?
[11:47] <Link> i want to find the ip for a PC from my network
[11:47] <grindcore> ompaul - i have there just shortcuts for my stuff - no drives, nothing else,...
[11:47] <Link> samba is not showing the ip
[11:47] <ompaul> grindcore, okay you have do to the nastier way forward, reboot the machine when the grub prompt comes up you need to press esc and then choose e to edit a line the one you want is the second line
[11:47] <Scunizi> ricanelite: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  Access by changing sessions at the login screen.  Won't mess with gnome or files but you may have to setup compiz fusion again for the kde environment.  check in #ubuntu-effects
[11:47] <drafael> differentreality: what's not working?
[11:48] <Link> is ther any way to see the ip's from my network computers???
[11:48] <drafael> differentreality: I'm working on a simple version for fun :P
[11:48] <kitofhawaii> Link: you know what type of box it i you're trying to connect to?
[11:48] <Link> yes
[11:48] <differentreality> http://rafb.net/p/5PbZHL20.html   my if in here... :/
[11:48] <Scunizi> Link: typically your router will tell you that if the machines are setup on dhcpl
[11:48] <grindcore> ompaul - i have 5of them there - 2 kernels in normal and recovery mode plus memtest
[11:48] <Scunizi> *dhcp
[11:48] <ompaul> grindcore, you add init=/bin/bash to the end of the line - ... choose the recovery option for this one   .....     and then when you eventually get to a prompt:   adduser youusername admin
[11:49] <ompaul> grindcore, recovery and how did you get it installed you need to use that one -
[11:49] <kitofhawaii> Link: try from terminal "nmblookup <hostname>"
[11:49] <grindcore> ompaul - i guess the newest kernel recovery i should select ?
[11:49] <Link> oky
[11:49] <ompaul> grindcore, it would be useful
[11:49] <kitofhawaii> Link: i'm assuming it's on the same subnet you are on...
[11:49] <differentreality> ok drafael  stupid mistake...
[11:49] <Link> yes i am
[11:50] <drafael> differentreality: o_o lol
[11:50] <ibanez> what folder do i install the bcm43xx firmware ?
[11:50] <Link> it works :) ty kitofhawaii
[11:50] <kitofhawaii> Link: np :)
[11:51] <differentreality> drafael, don't laugh.. i'm just getting started using linux and writing scripts and all of that :)
[11:51] <ec34534> grindcore: wait
[11:51] <differentreality> and yes it works :)
[11:52] <ec34534> grindcore: still there?
[11:52] <ompaul> grindcore, so your instuctions are, (A) init=/bin/bash  (B) mount -o remount,rw /  (C) adduser yourUserName admin (D)mount -o remount,ro / (E) reboot and enjoy
[11:52] <drafael> differentreality: I'm pretty new myself actually - I don't know how I make so many mistakes -_-;; I just thought it would be a good way to solve your problem
[11:52] <HetaUma> I have installed ubuntu on the 1st partion of my laptop and now I want to install windows as well. But it seems that 1st partition has to be M$ compatible sto windows will install. What can I do? thinking of moving linux partion from 1st to 2nd but don't know how
[11:52] <ompaul> grindcore, so your instuctions are, (A) init=/bin/bash  (B) mount -o remount,rw /  (C) adduser yourUserName admin (D)mount -o remount,ro / (E) reboot and enjoy
[11:52] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: there are no stupid mistakes, just stupid bandaids :)
[11:53] <ompaul> grindcore__, reboot is an instruction
[11:53] <differentreality> heh ok :))
[11:53] <grindcore__> ompaul - ok i go to try :)
[11:54] <Gluesticky> sorry this might be a stupid question but why do I get E: Couldn't find package apache 2 when i did 'sudo apt-get install apache2' ?
[11:55] <Gluesticky> i uncommented all the sources in /etc/apt/source.list as well
[11:56] <HetaUma> Gluesticky did u do sudo apt-get update?
[11:56] <differentreality> drafael, plus && works just fine.. (if and only first command was excecuted successfully...) and the script works :D
[11:56] <drafael> differentreality: cool, can I see?
[11:57] <Gluesticky> ok that worked sorry HetaUma :-p
[11:57] <MZM> differentreality: what Your' ūberscript is doing? replacing all user images with goatse?
[11:57] <differentreality> #!/bin/bash
[11:58] <differentreality> unrar x $1.part1.rar && rm $1.part*.ra
[11:58] <differentreality> oops
[11:58] <differentreality> unrar x $1.part1.rar && rm $1.part*.rar
[11:58] <MZM> differentreality: oh. I see. You lack disk space to unrar all Your pr0n.
[11:59] <differentreality> MZM, i don't need rars afte I unrar them..
[11:59] <differentreality> so why keep them ?
[11:59] <Link> i have one more problem
[11:59] <MZM> unrar and then remove?
[11:59] <Link> i have 2 network cards
[11:59] <kitofhawaii> Link: ok...?
[11:59] <Link> eth0 and eth1
[12:00] <differentreality> yes MZM
[12:00] <Link> what is the cmd to stom just one of the cards??
[12:00] <differentreality> but
[12:00] <differentreality> remove only if unrar was successful
[12:00] <Link> stop*
[12:00] <kitofhawaii> Link: to stop one? ifdown <interface>
[12:00] <drafael> wait wait
[12:00] <Link> :D oh
[12:00] <drafael> use pastebin
[12:00] <Link> thx again
[12:00] <drafael> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <mrtimdog> Link: sudo ifdown eth1
[12:01] <kitofhawaii> Link: yah...sudo in front of that :)
[12:01] <Link> thx guys ;)
[12:01] <MZM> differentreality: just run unrar on first partX and at the end it will tell how successful it was.
[12:01] <differentreality> drafael, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47522/
[12:02] <differentreality> MZM, yes i know that :)
[12:02] <differentreality> i just need to remove the files later..
[12:02] <HaTeR_s> привет всем
[12:02] <MZM> HaTeR_s: #ubuntu-ru
[12:03] <Virca3564> Hi
[12:03] <Locksm> Ok, just a quick Q, now ive read on a forum that they call Ubuntu 7.10 Fiesty Fawn, but ive also herd its galled Gutsy Gibbon or something ?!?
[12:04] <differentreality> drafael, now... i just need to make it work for multiple inputs..
[12:04] <drafael> differentreality: have an overcomplicated one
[12:04] <steve_b> does anyone here have experience at setting up vmware server?
[12:04] <drafael> differentreality: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47523/
[12:05] <differentreality> steve_b, me.. but in windows :P so.. i'm not gonna be of much help
[12:05] <differentreality> drafael, run away? hahaha
[12:05] <steve_b> I'm trying t oget Windows XP running on vmware server and all I see is a black screen
[12:05] <grindcore> ompal - can u put again this instructions there please - i lost connection :(
[12:05] <coccoon55> I've set up several vmware servers in windows
[12:05] <steve_b> the bit of windows setup that was in text mode worked, but once it get past that onto the graphical bit I can't see anything
[12:06] <grindcore> ompaul - can u put again this instructions there please - i lost connection :(
[12:06] <kitofhawaii> Locksm: 7.04 -> feisty fawn, 7.10 -> gutsy gibbon
[12:07] <ompaul> grindcore, so your instuctions are, (A) init=/bin/bash  (B) mount -o remount,rw /  (C) adduser yourUserName admin (D)mount -o remount,ro / (E) reboot and enjoy
[12:07] <Locksm> Hehe, ok, then ill have to report to this danish forum, cuz then their misleading folks!
[12:07] <Locksm> thx for the quick info
[12:07] <steve_b> has anyone ever got iTunes to work on Ubuntu?  I have been trying to get it working under a virtual machine with no luck...
[12:08] <grindcore> ompaul and this init... i'm writing in edit of root - grub edit> root (hd0,0) ?
[12:08] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: running wine?
[12:08] <drafael> differentreality: did you get that?
[12:08] <ompaul> grindcore, you are doing it from recovery
[12:08] <steve_b> brb
[12:09] <grindcore> ompaul - i select e when i point on recovery but then is 3 lines there - root; kernel; initrd
[12:09] <differentreality> drafael,  no what ?
[12:10] <ompaul> grindcore, kernel
[12:10] <drafael> differentreality: PM
[12:11] <manmohan> hi
[12:11] <toro1> hi, i need help with the path for the sudo command...
[12:12] <sjovan> toro1: what?
[12:12] <grindcore> ompaul - and select this kernel with 'e' aswell or with 'c' ?
[12:12] <sjovan> toro1: explain
[12:12] <Lumpy^> hey. i got wierd problem, i connect to a computer from windows and edit file in the 2nd computer in lan (ubuntu) with samba.. its saves me the file only when i quit from the file, if i do ctrl+s its not saves it... only when i close... anyone have a clue what i could be the problem ? (the chmod is 664)
[12:12] <differentreality> drafael, i said ur script is a little long :p
[12:13] <toro1> sudo works fine with the general set of commands (ls, cp, mv etc.) However, I just installed texLive and sudo for some reason cannot reach the texLive commands, even though I have added the path.
[12:13] <ompaul> grindcore, you want to edit it with e -- follow the onscreen instuctions
[12:13] <drafael> differentreality: :P
[12:13] <differentreality> but it's good :P
[12:13] <coccoon55> is there a beginners ubunto chat room I can get into somewhere?
[12:13] <xoqrps> Anyone good with airodump?
[12:13] <ompaul> grindcore, at the end you want to do something like
[12:13] <ompaul> grindcore, boot the box and then you want to do the add user stuff
[12:14] <drafael> differentreality: I'm putting the whole thing in a for loop to try get you multiple input files
[12:14] <toro1> PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-linux:$PATH; export PATH is what I did to add the texlive directory to path.
[12:14] <differentreality> drafael,  and i guess works better with people who are not familiar with the script... i mean i know what i wrote in MY script and what input i have to give..
[12:14] <differentreality> drafael,  yeah that would be my next step as well :))
[12:14] <drafael> differentreality: oh, ok, sure
[12:14] <kitofhawaii> Lumpy^: i'm a bit confused...you're editing it in windows or ubuntu?
[12:14] <mullcom> hi
[12:14] <sjovan> Lumpy^: maby it's ctrl+w or something in the prog. you are in. as long as you can save it has nothing to do with chmod
[12:15] <Lumpy^> 1 computer have that file and im editing it with windows xp
[12:15] <Lumpy^> its lan
[12:15] <Lumpy^> remote access...
[12:15] <sjovan>  Lumpy^: ah, i windows. sorry then i don't know
[12:15] <drafael> differentreality: in that case, these may help: $# counts no. arguments, and you can use "for i in `seq 1 $#`" to iterate the number of times that there are arguments
[12:16] <grindcore> ompaul - when I select edit the kernel there is long command line - when i put on the end this init... nothing happen - i should delete all line and then put ?
[12:16] <kitofhawaii> Lumpy^: sounds like the app. try file -> save and see if that works
[12:16] <drafael> differentreality: alternately, you can do everything on the $1 argument, "shift" every time you're finished and reiterate until $# = 0
[12:16] <Lumpy^> i tried zend, notepad, dreamweaver...
[12:16] <Lumpy^> any editor
[12:16] <drafael> differentreality: there are probably other ways, but yep
[12:16] <Lumpy^> its saves me it with delay, or just saves it once i close
[12:16] <ompaul> grindcore, yeap
[12:16] <xoqrps> !airodump
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airodump - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <sjovan> toro1: added what path?
[12:17] <differentreality> drafael, yeah.. thanks :)) i'm gonna try it.. if you do it too i'd like to see :)
[12:17] <ompaul> grindcore, a message
[12:17] <drafael> differentreality: alright, I'll see if this works or not ^^"
[12:17] <ompaul> grindcore, only use the parts you need from that
[12:17] <yabuk> I up dated my ubuntu to 7.10 and now the blender don't start, it shows "Segmentation fault (core dumped)",how to fix it? ( i've already reinstalled ubuntu)
[12:17] <differentreality> drafael, heh ok :))
[12:18] <kitofhawaii> yabuk: they're putting linux on blenders now? crazy :)
[12:18] <toro1> sjovan: I am not sure I understand the question, but, I ran PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-linux:$PATH; export PATH on the terminal to access the files in the directory without being in the directory. I can do it from the terminal. For instance: if I run texconfig, it works (without being in the directory). But sudo texconfig gives "command not found"
[12:19] <Vannja> тут є дівчата?
[12:19] <JuanTelez> hi! I have not sound in my kubuntu 7.04, what should I do?
[12:20] <yabuk> kitofhawaii: linux on blenders??
[12:21] <kalchas> hello! I have a wierd problem: I'm using Gutsy i386. When I right-click on the desktop, it doesn't work!
[12:21] <kitofhawaii> yabuk: did you try sudo apt-get update blender ?
[12:21] <Virca3564> По русски. Давайте
[12:21] <ompaul> !ru | Virca3564
[12:21] <ubotu> Virca3564: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:22] <MarcoRamius> I really can't believe how good ubunut is
[12:22] <MarcoRamius> someone finally got it
[12:22] <MarcoRamius> ubuntu*
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> MarcoRamius: what do you mean?
[12:23] <yabuk> kitofhawaii:no, but I'll try right now
[12:23] <sjovan> torol: why don't you do something simple like http://pastebin.com/d45d7a470, and save it as .run_something in your home or make a icon in the start menu?
[12:23] <ompaul> MarcoRamius, the cast of thousands worked rather hard - you too can contribute check out launchpad.net
[12:23] <MarcoRamius> IndyGunFreak: I mean...it has direction, focus etc
[12:23] <MarcoRamius> ompaul: yeah, I just joined my LoCo
[12:23] <brobostigon> good morning
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> MarcoRamius: eh.. There's several good distros out there, but I tend to .ike Debian/Ubuntu.
[12:24] <yabuk> kitofhawaii:please, write again the command
[12:25] <kaminix> Dual question! I have a bunch of flacs wich do not have the MD5SUM set in STREAMINFO meaning flac -t doesn't work. 1) Can I verify their integrity some other way? By making flac go through them for errors or so? 2) How do I add an md5sum to their STREAMINFO?
[12:25] <kitofhawaii> yabuk: sudo apt-get upgrade blender
[12:25] <matttis> hi
[12:25] <yabuk> thanks
[12:25] <kitofhawaii> yabuk: might be easier in synaptic, see all the packages you'll need to upgrade after the upgrade
[12:25] <bidossessi> hi folks
[12:26] <bidossessi> anybody using gdesklets here?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> also.
[12:26] <Virca3564> Суки
[12:26] <sjovan>  toro1: or even easyer.. make your self the owner so you don't need to sudo
[12:26] <kitofhawaii> bidossessi: using them off and on
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> bidossessi: i have, but i don't use them very often
[12:26] <bidossessi> ever used cornerxmms? i can't get it to work.
[12:26] <ompaul> !english
[12:26] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:26] <steve_b> has anyone ever got iTunes running in linux?  I have been trying to get a virtual machine to run it with no luck
[12:27] <toro1> I thought I was.. I probably am not since I just reinstalled...
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: you can run it w/ wine.., but i think its succcess varies.
[12:27] <ompaul> !itunes | steve_b
[12:27] <ubotu> steve_b: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[12:27] <kitofhawaii> bidossessi: *looks for it* i'll fire it up
[12:27] <nivis> anyone know how to start liferea so it just apears in the tray?
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: what do yuou use itunes for?..
[12:27] <MarcoRamius> IndyGunFreak: Until trying Debian, I had no idea what it was I didn't like about "linux"...
[12:27] <MarcoRamius> IndyGunFreak: it was packages the whole time!
[12:27] <brobostigon>  i just went to the nasa tv page, and it automaticcly opened a full screeen page that seems to be the live  feed, is this full screen page what i think it is?? and how does it do it, because realplayer does not work.??
[12:28] <ompaul> MarcoRamius, this is a support channel - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:28] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak so that I can use my iPod.  It's the latest generation of ipods and since I tried to use it with linux it is basically £160 worthof paperweight
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> MarcoRamius: lol, yeah.   Debian is a great distro, and apt-get/synaptic is far superior to anything RH could dream up.
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: use amarok... sudo apt-get install amarok.
[12:28] <toro1> sjovan: this is also somewhat of a curiosity... why doesn't sudo work with the PATH? does it have its own PATH definition somewhere? can it be edited?
[12:28] <grindcore> ompaul - i'm so stupid with console,... i need to learn lot of :(
[12:28] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I tried that - it killed my ipod
[12:28] <yabuk> kitofhawaii:blebder doesn't work yet :(
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: then you did something wrong, I've used Amarko w/ my IPODs for about 2yrs, no issues at all.
[12:29] <drafael> differentreality: I have something that seems to work
[12:29] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak Amarok only supports up to 5.5 gen iPods, mine is 6th gen
[12:29] <drafael> differentreality: although I've only tried it for the scenario where the filenames are correct
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i've got a 6th gen video... no issues.
[12:29] <kitofhawaii> bidossessi: sorry, don't have it or dependencies...
[12:29] <matttis> Is it possible to let every flash file start in medium quality (instead of high) ?
[12:29] <ompaul> grindcore, get an older CD from anywhere backup your data and reinstall your base o/s
[12:30] <bidossessi> never mind then
[12:30] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak really?  and it works?   Mine was literally called 'iPod Classic' and it doesn't work very well with linux
[12:30] <differentreality> drafael, i need to try a couple of things... if you want show me urs
[12:30] <drafael> differentreality: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47526/
[12:30] <domas> Hi! I know this probably is side-topic, but Ubuntu people must definitely know. What is the $Id: replacement in BZR?
[12:31] <domas> (and bazaar channels are empty :)
[12:31] <grindcore> ompaul - i have idea, but dont know if i can do this - can i logon like a root someway and open k3b a burn this dvd ?
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: try sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[12:31] <kyr> hello
[12:31] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I tried that too!  rust me I tried everything - nothing works with iPod lcassic.
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: very weird,
[12:31] <kalchas> steve_b have you tried gtkpod?
[12:32] <ompaul> grindcore, if you can't do what I gave you do to then you can't get there either - it is the same path
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i suspect you're doing something wrong... not the the other way around.
[12:32] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak it's becasue the new ipod classic uses encrypted databases - and no one has released driers to decrypt them yet on linuix
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i see...
[12:33] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak Apple have done it on purpose - to stop anyone accessing their iPod with anything other than iTunes
[12:33] <ompaul> grindcore, I have to go for a bit - back as soon as possible
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: sounds like it.
[12:34] <grindcore> ompaul - i just open the users and groups :) i dont know how its possible but i can open -:) yes yes yes yes
[12:34] <kyr> k9copy crashes
[12:35] <grindcore> in advanced setting of my account in the shell line should be this ? : 'bin/bash ?
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> giovanni_scr: what did you installl via synaptic, and thus need to start?
[12:39] <sharperguy> how do I get all the applications showing up in the fluxbox menu?
[12:39]  * IndyGunFreak never gets caught in the nijck collisions
[12:39] <sharperguy> ............
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: flux is a completelydifferent menu system setup.
[12:39] <drafael> sharperguy: fluxbox requires you to manually do it using a text editor iirc
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> it requires editing some file, but im not 100% sure.
[12:39] <kitofhawaii> oof
[12:39] <sharperguy> isnt there a generate menu script:?
[12:39] <neuro_> steve_b: what did you want to know?
[12:39] <erb_> I've lost 'Menus & Toolbars'  from under System > Preferences  ... How do I get it back?
[12:40] <madprobe> hi
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> neuro_: he can't get a 6th gen IPOD working w/ Ubuntu... seems its a well known problem with no solution as of yet.
[12:40] <steve_b> neuro_ I have installed vmware and set up a virtual machine.  now I am stuck
[12:40] <steve_b> neuro_ I could do the text mode part of windows install, but now it has got to graphical part and the console screen is just black
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: did you get the virtual machine booted?
[12:41] <riotkittie> erb_: is it under appearances maybe?  errrrr if not, try menu editor, or alacarte
[12:41] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak yeah it booted, but I can't see any graphics so I can't even get windows installed
[12:41] <neuro_> vmware player? server?
[12:41] <sharperguy> right then whats the command to run a program in a specific x server? (from a vtty)
[12:41] <steve_b> neuro_ vmware server
[12:41] <neuro_> k
[12:41] <steve_b> maybe I'm using the wrong program for this?
[12:42] <neuro_> no, windows works perfectly in vmware
[12:42] <neuro_> actually
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i don't think so, i've always used virtualbox, w/o issue... but i dont anymore.
[12:42] <neuro_> which version of windows?
[12:42] <MikeH> Hi guys, is the ssh server disabled by default on an ubuntu desktop install?
[12:42] <steve_b> neuro_ Windows XP Professional
[12:42] <sharperguy> MikeH, yeah, its not install in fact
[12:42] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I tried virtual box and it worked but there was no usb support
[12:42] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: vmware server might work but i've heard there's issues with usb 2.0 and syncing devices
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[12:43] <Maxdamantus> In /etc/sudoers, is there some sort of variable, to represent the username running the sudo?
[12:43] <steve_b> kitofhawaii what do you recommend - I need to run iTunes and access my iPod
[12:43] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: well...you can set your usb to 1.1
[12:43] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: hardly a workaround
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: just doing some googling, I've saw where some people have downgraded their firmware, or used Roxbox firmware, to make their 6th gens work, but it hink that would be a bit extreme.
[12:44] <samali> Enter text here...SAMAL0130
[12:44] <niteye> what is the command to get a list of all attached hard drives (even unmounted)
[12:44] <mega-seed> Current Upstream: 3726.98 KBytes/s
[12:44] <mega-seed> weee
[12:44] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak you can't do that with iPod classic as far as I'm aware
[12:44] <madprobe> i am using kubuntu. at boot time the screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and gets right just before KDM shows up. can someone please help me in this?
[12:44] <khamael> where can I download ndisgtk and deps manually? need them for a nic that requires ndis-wrapper
[12:44] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak rocbox doesn't support he new iPod classic
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: ok, i just saw it suggested on the forums, i hadn't searched it in detail.
[12:45]  * din_ 
[12:45] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak yeah I keep seeing things and getting excited, then realising it wnt work :-(
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: a post from the forums..   "AFAIK you can install Ipodlinux on the newer firmwares, it just won't support the new features."
[12:45] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak this is really annoying me now becasue I just bought my iPod a few weeks ago
[12:45] <Maxdamantus> Ah. SUDO_USER environment variable.
[12:45] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: you're doing a redirect usb?
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: do you dual boot
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[12:46] <steve_b> kitofhawaii sorry I don't understand the question!
[12:46] <sharperguy>  whats the command to run a program in a specific x server? (from a vtty) (it was somthing like screen :0
[12:46] <drafael> differentreality: how's it coming?
[12:46] <niteye> what is the command to get a list of all attached hard drives (even unmounted)
[12:46] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak no I don't dual boot - my windows xp hard disk died last week
[12:46] <Creationist> I'm trying to connect to my bluetooth phone.  I used to be able to through an icon in my notification area, but it is no longer there.  Did I miss something?
[12:46] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: in vmware server, you have to redirect a usb port to your vm
[12:46] <velko> niteye, sudo sfdisk -l
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i see.
[12:46] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I can't even get vmware to run properly
[12:47] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: well...ok that's different :)
[12:47] <steve_b> kitofhawaii it just comes up with a black screen
[12:47] <differentreality> drafael, wait.. the only rar files i have to test it appear to be broken
[12:47] <psyk0z> hello
[12:47] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: black screen doing what? powering on the vm?
[12:47] <steve_b> kitofhawaii The text mode parts of windows install worked, but when it got onto graphical stuff I can't see it - just a black screen
[12:47] <grindcore> ompaul I'M BURNING THE DVD AT THE MOMENT :)))))) I DONT HOW IS POSSIBLE BUT I CAN ACCESS THE USERS AND GROUPS AGAIN - I SELECT ALL PERMISIONS AND RESTART AND NOW I'M BACK AGAIN IN THE NORMAL WORKING ORDER :)))) THANKS A LOT FOR A PAINFULL HELP WITH ME. RESPECT
[12:47] <TheMafia> What is the virtual server of choice for gutsy?
[12:48] <sharperguy> !caps | grindcore
[12:48] <ubotu> grindcore: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:48] <samali> H0130
[12:48] <Maxdamantus> Or not.
[12:48] <drafael> differentreality: sure :)
[12:48] <madprobe> hi! i am using kubuntu. at boot time the screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes and gets right just before KDM shows up. can someone please help me in this?
[12:48] <samali> I SEEY HELLO
[12:48] <steve_b> kitofhawaii when I load the vm now, i see 'press any key to boot from the cd...", but when it gets past that just a black screen
[12:49] <psyk0z> how to create my own live ubuntu cd?
[12:49] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I also get a weird error on startup about libpng
[12:49] <grindcore> sharperguy I'm sorry but I'm very very happy that I can use again everything :)
[12:49] <erb_> How do I start 'Menus & Toolbars' from terminal?
[12:49] <velko> samali, do you really expect 1169 people to say hello?
[12:50] <drafael> velko: and counting!
[12:51] <samali> HELLO HELLO HOW ARE YOU ALL
[12:51] <niteye> /dev/hdc1   *      0+   3646    3647-  29294496   83  Linux
[12:51] <niteye> /dev/hdc2       3647   30283   26637  213961702+  83  Linux
[12:51] <niteye> both partitions have the same ID, i supposed this is deadly?
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: maybe you should have gotten something from Creative..lol
[12:51] <samali> ALL S0130NGAPUR
[12:51] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: huh...are you running 1.0.4 vmware?
[12:51] <Slart> niteye: same ID? you mean the '83' part?
[12:51] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak this is exactly what I'm thinking.  I will never buy anything from apple again ever becasue they are a bunch of tossers
[12:52] <niteye> yes
[12:52] <samali> I M LOOK0130NG FOR FEMALE
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: well, i think the main thing, is you need to research hardware before you buy it(trust me, i've been there with TV tuners, etc..)
[12:52] <steve_b> kitofhawaii yeah I am running 1.0.4 build-56528
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> youc an't just do spur of the moment buys
[12:52] <Slart> niteye: I think that's just the number associated with ext2 filesystem or something like this
[12:52] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I was running windows when I bought it!
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.;
[12:52] <ec34534> samali: really? seems you are looking for a kick
[12:52] <madprobe> hi! i am using kubuntu. when i boot up my machine the screen goes blank for 1-2 minutes. and display only comes back just before KDM is showing up. Please tell me the possible reason for this.
[12:52] <samali> OK
[12:52] <niteye> i can't manage to mount it with luksOpen anymore (yesterday it worked no problem)
[12:53] <Slart> niteye: I've got a vague memory of 83 being linux and 82 being linux swap or sometihng..
[12:53] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I finally got fed up with crappy windows xp and decided to get rid of it just after buying my ipod.  Actually I was intending to dual boot but then my windows disk broke
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i see....
[12:53] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: steve_b: do you have xen installed as well?
[12:54] <steve_b> kitofhawaii no
[12:54] <Slart> niteye: sorry.. it has nothing to do with the filesystem.. just that it's a linux partition.. look here for a long list of id's http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: look at the very last post on this page, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549141&page=5
[12:54] <samali> WHAY
[12:54] <samali> EC
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: and i thinkt his is the program he's talking about...  http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/home/
[12:54] <Slart> niteye: luksOpen? what is that?
[12:54] <madprobe> hi someone please help me abt my kubuntu problem
[12:55] <niteye> a part of cryptsetup to create encrypted partitions
[12:55] <Slart> samali: caps lock.. or broken shift key.. fix it
[12:55] <samali> WHAY EC34
[12:55] <ompaul> !caps | samali
[12:55] <ubotu> samali: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:55] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak cheers - I will look at it now and let you know if I have any luck
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: ok.. i'm curious.. so get back to us.
[12:55] <HetaUma> !grub
[12:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:56] <Slart> niteye: ah.. never used that.. but if it's not working I think you'll have to look for another reason than the partition id..
[12:56] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak don't worry - I'm not going anywhere for a while.  I'll let you know if I resolve this
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:56] <velko> ompaul, smali is a mild troll. please take a look at his comments - only offtopic and all caps
[12:56] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak also if this works I'm gonna make a donation to their project too becasue I've been tearing my hair out for days over this
[12:57] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: you'll be hapy to know you're not alone apparently in having a black screen...
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i would say that would be good.
[12:57] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: you use compiz by any chance?
[12:57] <erb_> Can somebody please tell me how to launch 'Menus & Toolbars' without going through 'System > Preferences' as my icon has been deleted
[12:57] <steve_b> kitofhawaii yes i do - is that the problem?
[12:58] <TheMafia> What is the virtual server of choice for gutsy? wasn't there something released with gutsy?
[12:58] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: well i'd try it without it real quick...see if it's that
[12:58] <Slart> erb_: I don't have a "Menus and toolsbars" but "Main menu" launches "alacarte"
[12:59] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I'll try that in one minute - I need to try something else quickly first
[12:59] <ompaul> TheMafia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[12:59] <kitofhawaii> TheMafia: i use vmware server peronally
[12:59] <Amaranth> erb_: Actually that whole thing has been deleted, not just the icon. It was decided that since most apps don't listen to the settings in there anyway there was no point in having it
[12:59] <MikeH> Thanks sharperguy
[13:00] <TheMafia> kitofhawaii, is vmwareserver installable by apt?
[13:00] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak my ipod wont even mount now - it's completely messed up
[13:00] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I think this yamipod thing might work but I really need to use iTunes first to restore my ipod
[13:01] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i see what you're saying,....
[13:01] <erb_> OK, I accidentally removed or moved the 'Internet' menu from under the 'Applications' menu with alacarte. How do I get it back?
[13:01] <IndyGunFreak> why won't your IPOD work now?
[13:01] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak brb
[13:01] <steve_b> kitofhawaii brb - trying to disable compiz
[13:01] <Amaranth> erb_: Click the "Revert" button
[13:01] <kitofhawaii> TheMafia: yes, but make sure to read the install guide for it on vmware's site...it can be tricky if you don't know the options when it prompts you for them
[13:02] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: if you're using gnome, alt-f2 "metacity --replace"
[13:02] <niteye> shiiiiit why isn't my data partition accessible anymore, yesterday it worked aaargh
[13:02] <erb_> Amaranth: I've already tried revert and it didn't work.
[13:02] <Amaranth> erb_: rm -rf ~/.config/menus/*
[13:03]  * IndyGunFreak looks at yamipod  thats a pretty cool program actually...
[13:03] <TheMafia> can I install windows xp through xen?
[13:03] <IndyGunFreak> kitofhawaii: i think yamipod will fix his issue.
[13:03] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I have messed up the filesystem by keep disconnecting it without ejecting
[13:03] <kitofhawaii> TheMafia: however, i use esx server at the office, so i'm a bit jaded about my choice in vm hosts
[13:03] <Amaranth> TheMafia: Only if you have an Intel Core or Core 2 processor
[13:03] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I did this before and needed itunes to fix it
[13:03] <erb_> Amaranth: That worked, thanks
[13:04] <steve_b> arg what was that hawaii guys name again?
[13:04] <kitofhawaii> IndyGunFreak: personally i don't use ipods (won't pay to the cult of steve jobs, he freaks me out) but i do have a zune :)
[13:04] <steve_b> kitofhawaii you are a genoius I could kiss you!
[13:05] <Amaranth> kitofhawaii: Which doesn't work _at all_ in linux :)
[13:05] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I disabled compiz and it instantly worked!
[13:05] <differentreality> drafael, i have a question.. in line 10 you have a test.. if ...... =0.   then if op=yes you have another test, if ... =1.     but from line 10 it only enters if as long as ... =0.   (or maybe i haven't understood everything :/ )
[13:05] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: lol k well, to get compiz back alt-f2, compiz --replace when you want it
[13:05] <Amaranth> steve_b: How could compiz break your iPod?
[13:05] <TheMafia> Amaranth, do you think qemu is a better choice?
[13:05] <Amaranth> TheMafia: Not really
[13:05] <TheMafia> I have always used vmware in the past but wanted to shift to something more open
[13:06] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: if you go the vm route, don't ever...ever...update your ipod's firmware through the vm
[13:06] <rico> Hey Guys
[13:06] <TheMafia> Amaranth, centrino duo work for xen
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: ok.... but i'm using Yamipod now.. it seems tow ork fine.
[13:06] <Amaranth> TheMafia: If you want to run Windows on Linux with the least amount of pain vmware is the way to go. It's faster, easier, and has more features.
[13:06] <Amaranth> TheMafia: Centrino Duo is Core 2 Duo
[13:06] <steve_b> Amaranth compiz brok vmware - not my ipod lol
[13:06] <rico> im havin issues with Vmware
[13:06] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak when I get it fixed I'll give it a go
[13:07] <rico> it doesnt want to install
[13:07] <drafael> differentreality: line 10 checks if there is a .rar extension - grep counts the lines with .rar present. if it's not present, it warns you that it's probably not going to work because it's probably the wrong filetype
[13:07] <steve_b> kitofhawaii why not?
[13:07] <kitofhawaii> Amaranth: my zune works fine in linux (i have a brown one...then again a lot of things work for me that doesn't work for others...i guess i'm just lucky :-D)
[13:07] <Amaranth> steve_b: It broke fullscreen?
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: hope it all works out.;
[13:07] <TheMafia> Amaranth, ok
[13:07] <Amaranth> kitofhawaii: That's not possible
[13:07] <steve_b> Amaranth it wouldn't show any graphical stuff at all with compiz running
[13:07] <Amaranth> steve_b: Oh, that's a new one
[13:07] <kitofhawaii> Amaranth: *hooking up zune right now*
[13:07] <niwt> rico: where you getting stuck?
[13:07] <drafael> differentreality: if .rar isn't present, it then prompts you for whether you want to try unrar it anyway
[13:08] <Amaranth> kitofhawaii: If you're starting vmware or something too that's cheating.
[13:08] <drafael> differentreality: the second choice with opt checks if it's a parted or normal rar file and handles the deletion of files accordingly
[13:08] <kitofhawaii> Amaranth: i don't have vmware on this box...it's my personal laptop
[13:08] <steve_b> Amaranth everytime there was graphical stuff it just showed a black screen, but text mode stuff worked fine
[13:08] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i'm gonna try moving one song to my IPOD now w/ yamipod.. i'll tell you ifits a waste of time...lol
[13:08] <Amaranth> steve_b: Sounds like a graphics driver problem :)
[13:08] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak cool let me know
[13:08] <sharperguy> grr how do i get stuff into my fluxbox menu because I can't even get a terminal window open or a browser
[13:08] <steve_b> Amaranth you could be right...
[13:09] <Amaranth> steve_b: intel?
[13:09] <drafael> differentreality: if the file DOES have .rar in the filename, it just does the normal stuff
[13:09] <steve_b> Amaranth I have an intel cpu and nVidia graphics card
[13:09] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: upgrading the firmware through a vm...if it jitters a bit it could brick your ipod
[13:09] <Amaranth> steve_b: Then I have no idea. I have nvidia and vmware works fine with compiz
[13:09] <drafael> differentreality: I might add an extra echo to clarify what file it's working on at present actually - I'll edit that pastebin thing
[13:09] <steve_b> kitofhawaii my ipod is bricked already!
[13:10] <steve_b> Amaranth I also have 2 monitors set up - maybe thats causing probvlems
[13:10] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: like really bricked? i mean like no hope whatsover send back to steve jobs brick
[13:10] <differentreality> drafael, ok good :))
[13:10] <rico> I dont get why vmware wont work for me :S
[13:10] <rico> it wont install
[13:10] <Amaranth> steve_b: Could be, nvidia does have some issues with GL and dualhead
[13:10] <Cesco> hello
[13:10] <steve_b> kitofhawaii it still kind of works, just it has a corupt filesystem so is just an expensive paperweight at the moment
[13:10] <TheMafia> another opinion based question, what terminal is "best"  I like konsole because of the tabs, what way 'should' I be looking at multiple terms?
[13:11] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: well good luck then :)
[13:11] <niwt> rico: are you here?
[13:11] <rico> yes
[13:11] <steve_b> Amaranth I do have mnor graphical problems with my setup - it took me ages to configure and still the refresh rate is a bit off
[13:11] <Cesco> how install vb 2005 on my ubuntu?
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: how long have you had it?... lol, take it back tell them it doesn't work, and you want ot exxchange it for a creative model...lol
[13:11] <niwt> where's it getting stuck?
[13:11] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak thats the plan if I don't fix it
[13:11] <rico> when i go to applications/install and click on the box to install it
[13:11] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I got it 2 months ago
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: hm, 2mo?.. they may tell you to send it to apple.
[13:12] <rico> VMware Player cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)
[13:12] <rico> Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[13:12] <niwt> it's in the repository???
[13:12] <drafael> differentreality: apparently the pastebin thinks I'm a spammer now and hates me :( oh well, if you change the "file does not appear to be a rar file" to "$FILE does not appear to be a rar file" it'll be easier to use ^_^"
[13:12] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak and then it mysteriously stopped woking all of a sudden I have no cluse what could have done that ;-)
[13:12] <kitofhawaii> rico: how old's your computer?
[13:12] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: 2mo though, they'll probably tell you to send it to apple, rather than taking it in exchange, unless you got it at walmart.
[13:12] <rico> im very new to Ubuntu
[13:12] <rico> err, 1.5 to 2 yrs
[13:12] <rico> if that
[13:12] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I know - I'm hoping it wont come to that
[13:12] <niwt> it should work
[13:12] <bmt2> hello to all
[13:13] <sharperguy> :'( :'( i cant open a browser because it doesn't show up in the fluxbox menu and I cant even google for how to get it to work
[13:13] <rico> 3.2ghz, 2GB ram, 512mb ATI card, no reason why :S
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: exchanging or returning?... cuz i feel you'll end up doign one of the two..lol
[13:13] <bmt2> how can i go about showing a list of available wireless network ?
[13:13] <kitofhawaii> rico: which linux headers you have?
[13:13] <rico> headers?
[13:13] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak if I can get away with reurning I will do that and buy a creative vision or something
[13:13] <rico> I'm new to linux, so I aint gotten a hold on the jargin yet
[13:13] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I got it from Amazon so its always a possibility
[13:13] <differentreality> drafael, hahaha :P
[13:13] <differentreality> ok
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: hmm, thats true.. but i wouldn't sit on it much longer if you're planning on doing that.
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: how much $$ if you don't mind me asking.
[13:14] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I will decide by the end of this week
[13:14] <drafael> differentreality: there we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47531/ >___> I had to make a new one. anyway, I'm going to sleep because it's 2:15am here.. enjoy your scripting!
[13:14] <kitofhawaii> rico: well, first thing's first...from terminal "uname -r"
[13:14] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak £160 gbp which is about $320
[13:14] <differentreality> drafael, !!! where are u from ?
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: ok...
[13:15] <drafael> differentreality: new zealand - it's somewhere near the big landmass called australia ^_~
[13:15] <differentreality> haha
[13:15] <differentreality> i c :)))
[13:15] <differentreality> here its 3:15 pm !!
[13:15] <differentreality> anyway :)
[13:15] <kitofhawaii> lol
[13:15] <differentreality> go rest :)
[13:15] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: here it is 3:15am :-P
[13:15] <rico> u after user name and machine name?
[13:15] <drafael> I'm going to england for the summer :D hooray
[13:15] <aetos> xD
[13:15] <differentreality> kitofhawaii, where is your here? :P
[13:15] <differentreality> drafael, heh :)) nice nice
[13:16] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: do i really need to answer that question?
[13:16] <differentreality> you should come to greece though for summer (I'm from Greece)
[13:16] <bmt2> wireless networks ?  Can anyone help   ?
[13:16] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: was just looking at yamipod, it has a "repair ipod" option..not sure what that means,
[13:16] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | bmt2
[13:16] <ubotu> bmt2: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:16] <kitofhawaii> rico: in terminal just type "uname -r" and tell me the results
[13:16] <differentreality> kitofhawaii, hawaii ?!?!
[13:16] <bmt2> i look at that document.....it didn't help
[13:16] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak yamipod doesn't even see my ipod!  just says to insert it...
[13:17] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: hehe good guess
[13:17] <differentreality> kitofhawaii, seriously ??
[13:17] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: yep :)
[13:17] <drafael> greece huh - I've got to go there sometime and see for myself, I hear a lot about it
[13:17] <bmt2> IndyGunFreak: how can i show available wireless networks in a list
[13:17] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: do you have an IPOD icton on your desktop?
[13:17] <differentreality> wooooooooow :))))
[13:17] <drafael> well, night
[13:17] <chacha> bitch
[13:17] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak nah it doesn't do that now - too many times i've disconnected without ejecting trying to get it to work
[13:17] <rico> bash: uname-r: command not found
[13:17] <differentreality> kitofhawaii, lukcy you... here it's rainning today :((((
[13:18] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: open up your home folder, on the left under Places, do you see something for your IPOD right there?
[13:18] <kitofhawaii> bmt2: sudo iwlist <interface> scan
[13:18] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak nope
[13:18] <kitofhawaii> differentreality: it's been raining here all week :)
[13:19] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak it did this before and I fixed it with iTunes, but now I don't have iTunes
[13:19] <kitofhawaii> rico: you need the space: ... "uname    -r"
[13:21] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: yeah, thats not good...lol
[13:21] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: maybe try restaring w/ your IPOD plugged in the whole time.
[13:21] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: yeah, i see your issue.
[13:21] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I think I may have to resort to digging out an old hard disk and installing XP on it
[13:21] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: what about using wine?.. does Itunes work on wine?
[13:22] <rico> any use?
[13:22] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak I can't get it to work with wine
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[13:22] <kitofhawaii> rico: did you get your output from "uname -r"? i don't see it
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: only other suggestion i can make, is maybe codeweavers, its not freeware.. but.
[13:22] <jussi01> !netsplit
[13:22] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[13:23] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak what is codeweavers?
[13:23] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: its frequentlyu referred to as crossover office
[13:23] <IndyGunFreak> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=974
[13:23] <jussi01> steve_b: www.codeweavers.com ???
[13:23] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak ah yeah i heard of that
[13:23] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak is it expensive?
[13:24] <drafael>  I just noticed something bad in my script - on the unrar lines, it'd be best not to edit out part using sed and then rm all files starting with the root because that could remove the files extracted as well as the rar, which would not be good -_-;;
[13:24] <drafael> nooo you're gone
[13:24] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: i don't think so 39-49 i think
[13:24] <star> Hi all i am trying to play a .3gp file i can see the video but no voice any idea any one?
[13:24] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak if it would definately work I probably wouldn't mind paying...
[13:24] <kitofhawaii> rico: still there?
[13:25] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: oh i understand.
[13:25] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: it has a 30 day trial..
[13:25] <steve_b> kitofhawaii hey I got windowsx running on vmware but I can't get the internet to work!
[13:25] <rico> ya
[13:25] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak that would be enough to fix my ipod!
[13:25] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: one would hope..lol
[13:25] <rico> Kit, lets do private chat so we can chat easier
[13:26] <drafael> kitofhawaii: if they come back/rejoin after the split, could you warn them that lines 17 and 26 are bad because they could remove the files extracted as well as the rar
[13:26] <drafael> thanks D:
[13:26] <kitofhawaii> drafael: the split's over...
[13:27] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: internet not working? did you enable NAT?
[13:27] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: so now you've got a windows desktop in vmware, but no internet connection?
[13:27] <kitofhawaii> rico: in the middle of some things right now...
[13:27] <steve_b> kitofhawaii  no I enabled bridged connection
[13:27] <rico> kk
[13:27] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak that is correct
[13:27] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I an enabling NAT now
[13:27] <rico> bah, i need to register to reply to u kit :P
[13:28] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: i find NAT works better unless you really are planning on really using it as a server
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: this reminds me of that movie "What about Bob", with Bill Murray... "Baby step to get vmware working, baby step plugin an ipod, baby step transfer music".
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[13:28] <steve_b> huzzah!
[13:28] <kitofhawaii> IndyGunFreak: i fix it as it comes =))
[13:28] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I changed to NAT and it works
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> kitofhawaii: :)
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> hallelujah!
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b: so now you need to download and install Itunes, inside vmware.
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[13:29] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak yeah man that's what I'm doing now
[13:30] <soroush> May sb tell me which of Ubuntu and Debian or Opensuse is more suitable for me?
[13:30] <soroush> How can I understand such this thing?
[13:30] <steve_b> IndyGunFreak so far I have managed to do all tihs without killing anyone either - but at times I have felt like ti!
[13:30] <soroush> I fell I've confused myself among linux distribusions
[13:30] <steve_b> *it
[13:30] <kitofhawaii> IndyGunFreak: i have an entire 50 user branch office connecting to a windows 2003 file server/active directory server and squid running on a PIII xeon and it's impressively fast for what they got
[13:32] <velko> soroush, you may try this one http://polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/
[13:33] <tich> the changes i make in 'admin-->users and groups' are not being saved.  how would i fix this?
[13:33] <panfist> can anyone help me set up a mysql database? anytime i try to do anything with mysql it says "'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'"
[13:34] <lifeforms> Hai guys, I am running Ubuntu 64bit, but I want to cross-compile a 32bit app with OpenSSL support.. is there a 32bit OpenSSL-devel package that I can install to make this happen?
[13:34] <steve_b> I have iTunes mwahahahahahahahahahaha
[13:35] <kitofhawaii> SteveA: still, cross your fingers it works with your ipod
[13:35] <ikonia> did someone call me ?
[13:35] <steve_b> kitofhawaii It hasn't detected my ipod when I put it in the drive
[13:35] <steveire> Anyone use greasemonkey here able to confirm a bug for me
[13:35] <steveire> ?
[13:35] <kitofhawaii> panfist: did you set a pw for root yet? i don't know, i've never tried mysql without setting a root password
[13:35] <steve_b> kitofhawaii if linux hasn't picked it up then vmware can't ?
[13:36] <steveire> Try to install this: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/8162 if you use ff v2.0.11
[13:36] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: did you redirect your usb?
[13:36] <steve_b> kitofhawaii how do I do that?
[13:37] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: under properties for the vm...i don't have vmware on this laptop to walk you through though (i'd need to connect to the office to see the settings)
[13:37] <panfist> kitofhawaii im very new with mysql but i think i am trying to set a root password and that is what it is telling me. can i reset the password?
[13:37] <kitofhawaii> panfist: sudo passwd root
[13:37] <panfist> kitofhawaii does that set a mysql password or a system password
[13:37] <kitofhawaii> panfist: do it in a separate terminal
[13:38] <steve_b> kitofhawaii do I need to shutdown the vm first to enable it?
[13:38] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: yep :)
[13:38] <panfist> kitofhawaii yeah i just reset my system root password that command was unrelated to mysql
[13:38] <larson9999> i'm starting to get nervous.  this mobo boots but doesn't install.  can't figure it out.  tried all sorts of versions of ubuntu, sysrescd, puppy linux.  wonder if i goofed something up installing it
[13:39] <soroush> velko, the quiz told me:
[13:39] <soroush> 1. Fedora
[13:39] <soroush> 2. openSUSE
[13:39] <soroush> 3. Mandriva Linux
[13:39] <soroush> 4. Ubuntu Linux
[13:39] <soroush> 5. MEPIS Linux
[13:39] <danbhfive> panfist: I can help you set the mysql password
[13:39] <kitofhawaii> panfist: right...but where are you stuck in the mysql installation?
[13:39] <larson9999> guess i'll try gparted
[13:39] <wols> larson9999: which mobo is it?
[13:39] <danbhfive> !paste | soroush
[13:39] <ubotu> soroush: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:39] <ciacon> Hi all - I am having rahter alarming problems with my ipod 4g.... can anyone help me??
[13:39] <panfist> kitofhawaii i think its installed and im trying to run it and make a database
[13:39] <wols> ciacon: apple can, not #ubuntu
[13:40] <soroush> danbhfivem, oh. really sorry. you're right
[13:40] <larson9999> wols, mis k9vgm-v
[13:40] <steve_b> kitofhawaii It won't detect my ipod!
[13:40] <kitofhawaii> panfist: i'm going to defer to danbhfive for this...
[13:40] <panfist> danbhfive thanks im trying to make a database and i keep getting this error 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[13:40] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: you redirected your usb?
[13:40] <panfist> kitofhawaii thanks for trying
[13:40] <danbhfive> panfist: ok, run this  : mysql -u root
[13:40] <steveire> Anyone?
[13:41] <ciacon> wols: I am rather not asking about tech probs directly with ubuntu, but rather with the pod.. I have googled to find nothing... =(.. I am by now list where to get help =(
[13:41] <steve_b> kitofhawaii yep - when i try to add a usb device my ipod doesn't show in the menu
[13:41] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: you're plugged into the right port?
[13:41] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: lsusb should show you which usb port your ipod is plugged into
[13:41] <wols> ciacon: and that's why you are wrong here. we only support ubuntu here, not ipods
[13:41] <steve_b> kitofhawaii does it matter which port I plug it in?
[13:41] <panfist> danbhfive: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[13:42] <ikonia> panfist: mysql -u root -p
[13:42] <danbhfive> panfist: ok, it looks like the root password is already set
[13:42] <steve_b> Bus 005 Device 005: ID 05ac:1261 Apple Computer, Inc.
[13:42] <velko> soroush, if i was in your your shoes i would toss a coin between ubuntu and opensuse
[13:42] <ikonia> danbhfive: ubuntu sets the root password for mysql in the same way it handles sudo
[13:42] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: it does matter...vmware doesn't redirect all your usb ports
[13:42] <steve_b> kitofhawaii does it matter which usb port it goes in?
[13:43] <steve_b> kitofhawaii how do I know which ports?
[13:43] <ciacon> wols: thanks for your sarcastly presice information
[13:43] <danbhfive> ikonia: oooo, didnt know that, it didnt used to do that
[13:43] <ciacon> wols: I just managed to brick my ipod and was hoping a bright mind might have an idea
[13:43] <userbina> hai smash ho are you
[13:43] <wols> ciacon: you are offtopic here
[13:43] <ciacon> wols: grad
[13:44] <ikonia> danbhfive: it sets it to a password but allows "any" access until you change it
[13:44] <wols> no matter how much hardware you break, if it's not ubuntu related: offtopic
[13:44] <ciacon> grand*
[13:44] <ompaul> userbina, this is not a chat channel it is a support channel
[13:44] <ikonia> ciacon: this is not ipod support
[13:44] <blahblahx> how do i make the seperations in my gnome panel invisible?
[13:44] <larson9999> i couldn't bring myself to buy a product from a company like apple.  maybe if i FOUND an ipod
[13:44] <velko> soroush, opensurse has generally excellent hardware detection (i think it's better than ubuntu) so you may give it a try first. nothing will stop you to switch to anything else if you are not happy
[13:44] <ciacon> ikonia: I know... my prob is I bricked mine and was hoping someone here had a similar experience and could help...
[13:45] <panfist> ikonia thank you that worked
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> soroush: what are you trying to do?
[13:45] <panfist> ikonia that worked!
[13:45] <panfist> now that im at a mysql prompt/have a root password, how can i create and setup a db?
[13:45] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: i'm sorry, i'm having a hard time visualizing how to determine which port you need for vmware to redirect...
[13:45] <blahblahx> ciacon: just do a factory restore and resync
[13:45] <ikonia> ciacon: this is NOT ipod support, so it doesn't matter if anyone in here had a similar issue
[13:45] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I think linux isn't detecting my ipod properly, and that is why it's not working
[13:45] <ompaul> ciacon, bricking them - I think you should look at rockbox.org and get away from that bad dependency culture
[13:45] <ikonia> panfist: remember to change your mysql rot password
[13:45] <fredl> howdy, I have one of those broadcom wireless cards in my PC. I recently reinstalled Ubuntu but now I forgot how to get this thing to work, if I remember correctly it's like this one command to download the microcode from somewhere.
[13:45] <soroush> IndyGunFreak, I'm a programmer and web developer but I don't have time to learn everything to do on linux
[13:45] <IdleOne> ciacon: you are offtopic and distracting the people who need real help with ubuntu issue. please stop
[13:45] <wols> !wireless | fredl
[13:45] <soroush> and I'm a newbie too
[13:46] <panfist> ikonia change when, or why?
[13:46] <ubotu> fredl: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:46] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: it doesn't have to...vmware redirects the entire usb port
[13:46] <larson9999> wols, everyone says this mobo is supported well.  guess i'll start unplugging stuff one by one
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> soroush: ok, so what do you want to use Linux for?
[13:46] <ikonia> panfist: change it so that it is a known password that then secures your server
[13:46] <fredl> tnx wols
[13:46] <blahblahx> how do i make gnome panel seperations invisible?
[13:46] <Pelo> soroush,  you'll learn as you go , as you need to , just like you did with windows
[13:46] <ciacon> ompaul: have rockbox instlaled.... are you in #ubuntu-offtopic?? I might get skinned alive for asking questions here -.-
[13:46] <inmylife> hi
[13:46] <Pelo> blahblahx, it changes with the theme you use
[13:46] <soroush> IndyGunFreak, because i love linux and I prefer Lamp
[13:47] <danbhfive> panfist: you might want to try phpmyadmin, its allot easier than memorizing the mysql commands
[13:47]  * IndyGunFreak wonders if Pelo ever sleeps
[13:47] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: anyway try some different usb ports
[13:47]  * Pelo waves hello to the knew ppl 
[13:47] <ikonia> panfist: phpmyadmin is also a security risk
[13:47] <blahblahx> Pelo: i dont mean my panel, i mean the seperations in it
[13:47]  * Pelo was wondering if IndyGunFreak had a life 
[13:47] <steve_b> kitofhawaii does it have to be plugged in when the vm is booted up?
[13:47] <Fyda> blahblahx: Yes, those are part of the theme as well.
[13:47] <IdleOne> morning Pelo
[13:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[13:47] <Pelo> blahblahx, so do I
[13:47] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: no i don't believe so
[13:47] <san|> ikonia: then secure it with htaccess / ip limitation
[13:48] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, I'm just watching vids waiting after my laudry
[13:48] <blahblahx> Fyda: well is there a way t override the theme?
[13:48] <ikonia> san|: thats up to the user to decide if thats appropriate
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: good.. you've missed alll the fun trying to get steve_b's ipod working..
[13:48] <soroush> Pelo, I see and if Debian could be customized grafically like suse I would have chosen it but I'm frightened to encounter many command line
[13:48] <soroush> which I will have to learn
[13:48] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, lucky me ....
[13:48] <Fyda> blahblahx: Look in ~/.themes/yourcurrentthemehere -- it probably has an image somewhere that's used for the separators.
[13:49] <SkyBlue> ubuntu?
[13:49] <Fyda> blahblahx: I don't think there's any way to do it without hacking around the theme.
[13:49] <soroush> I feel debian is the most mature distribution
[13:49] <steve_b> kitofhawaii I am trying every port but nothing is working!
[13:49] <blahblahx> soroush: it can, just install the package gnome-control-center
[13:49] <Pelo> soroush, what do you mean by customize graphicaly ? talking about themes ? screen items ? what ?
[13:49] <ikonia> soroush: if you feel it appropriate use debian
[13:49] <Pelo> SkyBlue,  yes this is the ubuntu channel
[13:49] <Pelo> soroush, you are aware that  ubuntu is based on a stable debian right ?
[13:50] <soroush> Pelo, eg. I don't know how to restart a service so I go to yast2 in suse and then restart apache
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> soroush: well, it is.., but you said your a newbie, so why do you want a "mature" distro...
[13:50] <steve_b> how do you privat message sopmeone?
[13:50] <pirx> hey! ubuntu supports the new intel core2 quad cpus, right?
[13:50] <Fyda> blahblahx: Wait, you meant separators, as in dividers? Hmm, I was thinking of the grab handles for things like the window list and notification area.
[13:50] <velko> soroush, i don't use ubuntu but debian since 7 years. it very mature but not really newbie friendly
[13:50] <steve_b> kitofhawaii hello
[13:50] <soroush> Pelo, Yes. I know that about Ubuntu but I'll need to get many software through internet if I use Ubuntu
[13:50] <Pelo> soroush, sudo apache restart  should do it
[13:50] <blahblahx> Fyda: yeah i mean the seperators in the panel like dividers, not anything in windows
[13:50] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: depends on your client...double click their name?
[13:50] <panfist> ikonia thanks
[13:50] <larson9999> hmmmm, gparted will load on this computer i just built.  but none of these will: gutys 64(alternate and livecd), gutsy i386, xubuntu edgy, latest sysrescd, and latest puppy linux.  what should that tell me?
[13:50] <steve_b> can anyone tell mt how to pm with bitchx?
[13:50] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: on the right side
[13:51] <steve_b> cxczcx
[13:51] <larson9999> gparted 3.3
[13:51] <steve_b> hmmm
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> steve_b:  and kitofhawaii  type this "/join #indygunfreak"
[13:51] <larson9999> or is that 3.03
[13:51] <Pelo> soroush,  have you given the repositories a search ?
[13:51] <soroush> my biggest problem is my internet speed
[13:51] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: oh...i'm using gtkbitchx
[13:51] <Lumpy^> hey. sometimes when i save files from xp machine to ubuntu (using samba) i get this error in the log file ...:   lib/util_sock.c:write_data(562) write_data: write failure in writing to client 10.0.0.54. Error Connection reset by peer , its works sometimes and sometimes its not... anyone has idea?
[13:51] <ikonia> soroush: /msg
[13:51] <Pelo> steve_b, should be the same as with any other  /msg, or /query or /notify , don'T pm ppl in this channel witout asking first
[13:52] <IndyGunFreak> kitofhawaii: join me and steve in #indygunfreak... "/join #indygunfreak"
[13:52] <Pelo> steve_b, I said you need to ask first , I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[13:52] <Spzatt> im trying to install the mp3 codec but i get a error : This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[13:52] <Pelo> steve_b, I said you need to ask first , I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[13:53] <panfist> ok ive got another mysql error, when i enter this command:  mysql < mc.sql -p, it returns the error: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'amy'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[13:53] <spezi|Fanta> how do i get the version of a modul I am running?
[13:53] <steve_b> kitofhawaii hello
[13:53] <kitofhawaii> steve_b: i'm here...did you install vmware tools?
[13:53] <panfist> also if i use the command mysql < mc.sql (without the -p), i get the same error except using password: NO
[13:53] <Spzatt> im trying to install the mp3 codec but i get a error : This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[13:53] <rico> this is confusing
[13:53] <Pelo> Spzatt,  gstreamer ugly should play mp3 ,  but what package are you tring to install to get mp3 working ?
[13:53] <steve_b> kitofhawaii come to #indygunfreak
[13:53] <Pelo> rico,  what is ?
[13:53] <Spzatt> The gstreamer ugly package
[13:54] <rico> i try to install vmware and it refuses to install
[13:54] <Pelo> Spzatt, what package is it in comfict with ?
[13:54] <Spzatt> It doesnt say that.
[13:54] <Spzatt> It says its in a conflict with some software.
[13:54] <rico> VMware Player cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)
[13:54] <rico> Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[13:54] <rico> thats what I get from it
[13:54] <Pelo> rico, vmware server requires a passowrd and serial from the vmware site, it is free you just need to registrer
[13:54] <SkyBlue> how to install printer canon ip1200 ?
[13:55] <danbhfive> panfist: I think you aren't putting a user in, -p allows you to enter a password, -u followed by a user name is how you put a user in, i think
[13:55] <Pelo> rico,  where are you getting the vmware from ?
[13:55] <rico> its vmware player, not server
[13:55] <wols> !printing | SkyBlue
[13:55] <rico> PC user magazine disk
[13:55] <IdleOne> !printer | SkyBlue
[13:55] <ubotu> SkyBlue: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[13:55] <larson9999> gparted livecd works... that mean i'll have to use gentoo? :)
[13:55] <Spzatt> im trying to install the mp3 codec but i get a error : This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[13:55] <Pelo> rico, get it from the vmware website,  the version you have is just incompatible with your hardware ,
[13:55] <panfist> danbhfive thanks
[13:55] <SkyBlue> !printer
[13:56] <wols> larson9999: not really. when exactly does it crash everytime?
[13:56] <wols> !vmware
[13:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[13:56] <wols> rico: see what ubotu just said
[13:56] <Pelo> SkyBlue, in menu > sytem> admin > printers,   just select the closest cannon printer available,  probabaly a 1000 instead of a 1200 it should work
[13:56] <Greyscale__> rebooty
[13:57] <SkyBlue> im using ubuntu 7.04, not work!
[13:57] <Spzatt> anyone help me with the codec.. ?
[13:57] <larson9999> wols, it depends on which version i try to install.  which should i try?
[13:57] <Pelo> SkyBlue, should work,  I don't think the drivers have been updated
[13:57] <Pelo> !mp3 | Spzatt
[13:58] <Pelo> SkyBlue,  what is yoru pinter model again ?
[13:58] <danbhfive> Spzatt: have you tried sudo apt-get update?  I know its a lame idea, but I can't see how that package could conflict with anything
[13:58] <wols> larson9999: we are in #ubuntu
[13:58] <panfist> ok so i entered this command ( mysql < mc.sql -u root -p) but i have no idea what it did...i want to start this database running put according to system monitor no mysql process is running.
[13:58] <ubotu> Spzatt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:58] <demco> I have my ubuntu desktop extended over two monitors.  Is there a way to have a the "start-bar" task panels hide on the second monitor, and stay visible on the first?
[13:58] <ikonia> panfist: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[13:58] <ikonia> panfist: using sudo
[13:58] <SkyBlue> ok, im try again
[13:59] <larson9999> wols, yeah, well there is i386 and 64bit, livecd and alternate.
[13:59] <rico> i need a VM player, not server
[13:59] <Pelo> SkyBlue,  try with the pixmax ip2000 driver
[13:59] <panfist> ikonia thanks
[13:59] <Pelo> rico,  I think vmware player is in the repos
[13:59] <Pelo> rico,  sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[13:59] <panfist> ikonia how can i set that up to start when the system starts
[14:00] <ikonia> panfist: reboot, it already is ;)
[14:00] <Pelo> brb , laundry
[14:00] <panfist> ikonia nice
[14:00] <Guest16155> !ftp
[14:00] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[14:00] <panfist> ikonia how do i make a new mysql user so im not using the root user
[14:01] <Guest16155> does ubuntu have ftp server ? (can someone give me link to a guite of ftp server ) ?
[14:01] <ikonia> panfist: look up "grant" on mysql.com
[14:01] <ikonia> panfist: user's don't actually exist as a physical object in mysql
[14:01] <panfist> ikonia ok thanks
[14:01] <Pelo> panfist,  there is also a #mysql channel if you donT get all your answers here
[14:02] <Pelo> Guest16155, ftp server for waht ? you mean t get ubuntu ?
[14:02] <Spzatt> now i get why they call linux the hacking OS
[14:02] <odin__> Could anyone know what package I have to install to get the offensive fortune cookies?
[14:02] <wols> !ftpd | Guest16155
[14:02] <ubotu> Guest16155: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[14:02] <Pelo> Spzatt, hacking just means programming,  since the linux code is open , you can go in an change anything you want , if you know how
[14:03] <Pelo> odin__, google for it , I don'T think it is part fo ubuntu
[14:03]  * IdleOne gets out his hatchet
[14:03] <Spzatt> im trying to install the mp3 codec but i get a error : This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[14:03] <odin__> Pelo: Thanks, will do
[14:03] <wols> panfist: easiest way is to install phpmyadmin. another why is with mysql by adding an entry to the user table
[14:03] <ubuntu_newbie> how to access read write ntfs hardisk on ubuntu 7.04 ?
[14:03] <IdleOne> !ntfs
[14:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[14:04] <wols> Spzatt: WHICH other software does it conflict with. use apt-get and paste the full output of it
[14:04] <Pelo> Spzatt,  which pacakges are listed as being in confilct with gstreamer ugly ?
[14:04] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu_newbie
[14:04] <ubotu> ubuntu_newbie: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:04] <ubuntu_newbie> !ntfs-3g
[14:04] <Spzatt> just apt-get?
[14:04] <odin__> Pelo: If ya are ever interested it's "fortunes-off" (for english)
[14:04] <qwaz> What is a decent cpu power monitor?
[14:04] <Pelo> ubuntu_newbie,  you already got the message adressed to you by ubotu
[14:05] <Spzatt> Pelo, for the third time, it doesnt tell me what it does conflict with!
[14:05] <Pelo> odin__, not realy interested
[14:05] <wols> qwaz: not possible. how would ubuntu know how much power your CPU takes? from what sensor?
[14:05] <ubuntu_newbie> ok
[14:05] <Pelo> Spzatt, ok how are you going about installing ? gstreamer ugly?
[14:05] <wols> Spzatt: for the last time: either use apt-get to install it and tell us what it conflicts with or you will never get an answer. your choice
[14:05] <qwaz> wols: there are no applications that can be used under ubuntu to monitor my cpu's power?
[14:05] <steveire> Anyone use greasemonkey?
[14:05] <Spzatt> I run a mp3 file, it tells me i need a codec, it searches for a codec, i mark it off for install, i click Contunue and it pops up
[14:06] <Spzatt> apt-get name of plugin?
[14:06] <Grey_> you want the gstreamer plugins
[14:06] <wols> qwaz: there are not apps anywhere to do that unless you can hook up a sensor to your PSU
[14:06] <danbhfive> wols: I think most motherboards have built in power supply sensors, that tell you the voltages on each line
[14:06] <wols> danbhfive: and voltage is not power
[14:06] <ikonia> wols: lmsensors willl monitor some aspects
[14:06] <Pelo> Spzatt,  ok much better,  I want you to go into  menu > system> admin> synaptic package manager,  use the search feature,  search for gstreamer, check to instal all the gstreamer0.10  pacakges and apply
[14:07] <wols> ikonia: it will not monitor power. ever
[14:07] <Spzatt> Ok.
[14:07] <ikonia> wols: no, but some aspects such as voltage, temp etc
[14:07] <qwaz> wols: what are all those apps I see in screenshots? disk usage, cpu usage etc etc
[14:07] <Pelo> Spzatt,  anyting conflicting will be removed if needed,  but you will get a msg telling you they are going to be removed, and which, let us know which before allowing to proceed
[14:07] <wols> qwaz: conky for example
[14:07] <ikonia> qwaz: thats not power
[14:08] <Spzatt> Wols : i get this error : gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly:
[14:08] <Spzatt>  Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[14:08] <Spzatt>  Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[14:08] <qwaz> ahh, ok
[14:08] <Spzatt> Pelo : i get this error in the terminal :   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[14:08] <Spzatt>                               Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[14:08] <Spzatt> E: Broken packages
[14:08] <Pelo> Spzatt, ok much better, make a note of those packages,   search for them each and try to isntal them,  give us the error msg you get if any
[14:08] <Spzatt> Alright.
[14:08] <wols> Spzatt: pastebin your sources.list
[14:08] <Spzatt> Search on google?
[14:09] <Pelo> Spzat search in synaptic
[14:09] <odracir34>  #ubuntu-nl
[14:09] <Pelo> odracir34, /join #ubunt....
[14:09] <Pelo> brb , laundry again
[14:09] <wers> what code do I enter to see what peripherals are recognized by my box other than dmesg? :D
[14:09] <wols> wers: lspci, lsusb, lspcmcia
[14:09] <wers> niiice
[14:09] <Spzatt> Pelo, didnt find any of them
[14:10] <wers> thanks, wols!
[14:10] <wols> Spzatt: do what I told you
[14:10] <Spzatt> How do i open sources.list ?
[14:10] <wols> with an editor
[14:10] <Spzatt> ..
[14:10] <Spzatt> Where is my sources.list located?
[14:11] <jrib> Spzatt: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <wols>  /etc/apt
[14:11] <matttis> do i have to install "Sun Java 6 Web Start" to use java with firefox ?
[14:11] <wols> matttis: no
[14:11] <Spzatt> want me to paste ALL that?
[14:11] <Pelo> matttis,  no the -pluggin package
[14:11] <jrib> Spzatt: at paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[14:11] <Pelo> !pastebin | Spzatt
[14:11] <ubotu> Spzatt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:11] <bryan34328> hello, can someone recommend me on good remote control software for ubuntu system ?
[14:12] <bryan34328> (on graphic mode)
[14:12] <jrib> bryan34328: like ssh?
[14:12] <wols> bryan34328: tightvnc, freenx
[14:12] <Qjimbo> Hi
[14:12] <Pelo> bryan34328, try searching for remote in synaptic
[14:12] <Spzatt> Here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47535/
[14:12] <Pelo> hello again, Qjimbo
[14:12] <magnetron> bryan34328: for Infrared remotes? try Lirc
[14:12] <rico> im off guys, later
[14:12] <jrib> !vnc > bryan34328 (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:12] <chazco> Hi... anyone able to help with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608760 ?
[14:12] <Qjimbo> how do you configure workspaces to work over 2 monitors?
[14:13] <wols> Spzatt: uncomment at least # deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[14:13] <Pelo> Spzatt,   un comment lnes  43 44  50 51
[14:13] <Qjimbo> oh and hey pelo, nice you remembered me haha
[14:13] <Spzatt> What ?
[14:13] <Spzatt> Remove them?
[14:14] <ttt--> sorry if this is a stupid question... the biggest res i can choose is 800x600. is there any way to make ubuntu draw the windows smaller?
[14:14] <Pelo> Spzatt, actualy are you still in synaptic, I would reather you do it another way
[14:14] <luisbg> how do I kill the "free the fish" fish?
[14:14] <wols> Spzatt: how does "uncomment" look like "remove" to you?
[14:14] <Pelo> Qjimbo, your were quite noticable yesterday , not necessaraly a good thing
[14:14] <Spzatt> Im not english, so please tell me what "uncomment" means..
[14:14] <ttt--> the default font of the system or something like that?
[14:14] <magnetron> Qjimbo: system > administration > screens and graphics
[14:14] <wols> !no | Spzatt
[14:14] <ubotu> Spzatt: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[14:15] <Pelo> Spzatt,  close the  text editor and follow these instructions
[14:15] <magnetron> Spzatt: what's your native language?
[14:15] <Spzatt> Will do.
[14:15] <Qjimbo> Pelo: yeah I was having a lot of problems with ethernet, turns out it was the oddest thing, a PCI caching option in BIOS
[14:15] <Spzatt> Or wait, Pelo.
[14:15] <niwt> uncomment = remove #
[14:16] <Spzatt> thanks niwt
[14:16] <Qjimbo> oh and thanks magnetron, I'll take a look
[14:16] <Spzatt> What lines again?
[14:16] <Rohaq> hey folks, quick question: how can I stop Rhythmbox from popping up every time I insert my iPod, or at least make my music player of choice (Banshee) appear?
[14:16] <Qjimbo> hmm magnetron I don't have that option...
[14:16] <mario84> Ciao, ho un problema all'avvio e mi chiede di eseguire fsck sulla partizione, ma in recovery mode mi chiede la password di root, che cosa metto?
[14:16] <jrib> Pelo, Spzatt: he has more important stuff commented (like main)
[14:16] <wols> !it | mario84
[14:16] <ubotu> mario84: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:16] <mario84> ah sorry
[14:17] <Pelo> Spzatt, go back into synaptic, in the menu > settings ( could be configuration) > repositories,   you now have the repos gui dialog,  check all the boxes on the first tab and then in the 3rd tab make sure that the backport one is checked,   apply and close,  now go back into synaptic and reload the pakcages, fist tool button on the left,   then try to isntall gstreamer0.10 again
[14:17] <magnetron> Qjimbo: do you find anything similar? i don't know the exact phrasing
[14:17] <marek|nano_> LOL!
[14:17] <wols> Pelo: he doesn't need backports. he needs main
[14:17] <ibanez> hey guys, where do i install the bcm43xx firmware to ?
[14:17] <magnetron> Qjimbo: also, are you using ubuntu 7.10?
[14:17] <Pelo> jrib, I know, taht I why I am sending him in the repos dialog,  fewer chances of messing up
[14:17] <huss> plz how to mount desk with terminal that is not visible anywhere ?
[14:17] <ibanez> /usr/lib/firmware ?
[14:17] <wols> ibanez: /lib/firmware/
[14:18] <Pelo> wols,  read the part before that,  I'M just having hm do backport cause he'll want it later anyway
[14:18] <wols> huss: which disk exactly? what devicename?
[14:18] <ibanez> thanks wols
[14:18] <Qjimbo> magnetron: I'm actually using Ubuntu Studio, but it is based on 7.10, I guess it must be slightly different
[14:18] <huss> wols, it is ntfs and it was visible, I donno what happend
[14:18] <Qjimbo> is there a way of installing the screens and monitors applet you mentioned with synaptic?
[14:18] <Pelo> Qjimbo, ubujntu studio should have all that is available in ubuntu , but with a few extras and some theming done
[14:19] <wols> huss: answer my question, not irrelevant stuff
[14:19] <huss> hard disk
[14:19] <magnetron> Qjimbo: system > administration > screens and graphics ?
[14:19] <wols> huss: "hard disk" is no devicename either
[14:19] <Pelo> huss,  I tink  wols wants the /dev/..... addy of the partiton in question
[14:19] <niwt> what is Spzatt trying to install?
[14:20] <Spzatt> wtf i clicked a button and my windows went awa
[14:20] <Spzatt> y
[14:20] <Pelo> niwt,  gstreamer ugly but his repos are messedup
[14:20] <blight> all, what's a good way to safely (I mean completely destructive) format a disk in linux ? for I in 1..8; do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb bs=1024 count=10G?
[14:20] <wols> niwt: something that hasn't the dependencies fulfilled because of a borked sources.list
[14:20] <Pelo> Spzatt, go back into synaptic, in the menu > settings ( could be configuration) > repositories,   you now have the repos gui dialog,  check all the boxes on the first tab and then in the 3rd tab make sure that the backport one is checked,   apply and close,  now go back into synaptic and reload the pakcages, fist tool button on the left,   then try to isntall gstreamer0.10 again
[14:20] <wols> BlackOrc: the "bs=1024 count=10G" is wrong
[14:20] <huss> wols, sorry i don't know
[14:21] <huss> wols, how can i
[14:21] <wols> huss: the command is "mount" but without you know what you want to actually mount we cannot help
[14:21] <Pelo> huss,  blkid should give you a list of all your partiton with devtree and uuid info
[14:21] <elkey> yoooo
[14:21] <cs02rm0> what's the tidiest way of installing the hardy kernel on a gutsy install?
[14:21] <wols> blight:  the "bs=1024 count=10G" is wrong
[14:21] <wols> cs02rm0: a backport
[14:21] <Pelo> cs02rm0, ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:22] <Qjimbo> magnetron: This is what I see http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/8683/screenshotrw9.th.png
[14:22] <blight> wols: in what sense? ie. not matching disk size?
[14:22] <wols> blight: yes
[14:22] <blight> wols: fair enough
[14:22] <wols> blight: no need for these parameters to erase the whole disk
[14:22] <huss> wols, pelo, thx anyhow and i'm gonna search for thar disk
[14:22] <blight> wols: otherwise that would work?
[14:22] <wols> sure
[14:23] <Pelo> huss,  restarting the comp migth make the partition visible again if it got dropped for some reason
[14:24] <magnetron> Qjimbo: maybe the tool is included i my nvidia driver
[14:24] <huss> I think it is /dev/hda1
[14:24] <Qjimbo> hmm
[14:24] <Guest16155> hello, i would like to install some package, inside the README file it writen to type : % ./vncinstall /usr/local/bin in order to install the package but i get an error : sudo: ./vncinstall: command not found ?
[14:24] <Jimnastics_> problem to config snort,having 'no using pcap_frame' error, i ve winpcap installed,i m tryin windows ver
[14:25] <magnetron> Guest16155: are you trying to install vlc?
[14:25] <Pelo> huss, try with  sudo mount -F ntfs /dev/hda1 /whateverthemountpointis
[14:25]  * blight wonders if I should build an electromagnet and place on disks just to be sure ...
[14:25] <Guest16155> magnetron: i am trying to install vnc free edition
[14:25] <BlackOrc> wols: what is wrong?
[14:25] <magnetron> Guest16155: the server or the client?
[14:25] <Guest16155> server
[14:25] <wols> BlackOrc: my tab complete
[14:25] <Guest16155> magnetron: server
[14:26]  * Pelo gives blight  the latest most top-secret plans for the constructions of a fool proof tin-foil hat
[14:26] <magnetron> Guest16155: oh, good luck with that one
[14:26] <BlackOrc> wols: ah ok no problem D
[14:26] <wols> Guest16155: on what OS? cause under ubuntu there is no "free edition"
[14:26] <stefg> cs02rm0: there is no 'tidy' way, except building the kernel kerenl with the hardy sources on a gutsy system
[14:26] <fredl> blight - if you're in Europe, having some big whopping electromagnets and a panic button near you would be good :)
[14:26] <blight> fredl: hehe
[14:26] <Qjimbo> hmm apparently there's a program called Xinerama
[14:26] <picard_pwns_kirk> Guest16155: do you mean VMWare?
[14:26] <Qjimbo> lets give taht a whirl
[14:27] <Pelo> blight, if your bios has the options, low-format the hdd
[14:27] <huss> pelo, thx man
[14:27] <fredl> blight - or you could just stop hitting on little girls :P
[14:27] <wols> blight: just use an encrypted harddisk
[14:27] <Pelo> huss,  it worked ?
[14:27] <blight> fredl: hehe :-) it's not like that :)
[14:27] <Guest16155> wols: on ubuntu , this is the link to the software i want to install : http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/download.html
[14:27] <fredl> blight - well then stop downloading all those movies!
[14:27] <fredl> dammit :)
[14:28] <blight> wols: aye that's another option - I just want to blitz a disk before throwing it in the trash
[14:28] <huss> pelo, no :) but I'll try to reboot
[14:28] <wols> Guest16155: that's nice but not part of ubuntu, especially since ubuntu already has tightvncserver, xvncserver, etc
[14:28] <Pelo> huss,  I might have just given you the wrong options,  man mount for more detailed info
[14:28] <Guest16155> wols: i am new to ubuntu , what is the easy way to install remote control software on ubuntu ?
[14:28] <huss> pelo, ok
[14:29] <wols> blight: dd is enough. no one will pay 100k USD to get back the contents of your disk
[14:29] <wols> Guest16155: use synaptic
[14:29] <blight> wols: true
[14:29] <Pelo> Guest16155,  what do you mean by remote control ?  infrared or remote access to your compfrom another comp ?
[14:29] <wols> Pelo: he means vnc or similar
[14:29] <fredl> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ?
[14:29]  * blight wonders why I'm only getting 13MB/s write to this USB2.0 disk?
[14:29] <Pelo> Guest16155, in the therminal  sudo apt-get instll vnc
[14:30] <Pelo> Guest16155, in the therminal  sudo apt-get install vnc
[14:30] <Pelo> sigh
[14:30] <picard_pwns_kirk> Pelo: trouble typing?
[14:30] <Pelo> picard_pwns_kirk, often
[14:30]  * Pelo wonders how picard_pwns_kirk  would do with only 7 fingers 
[14:31] <xevil> is a therminal a hot or cold terminal?
[14:31] <ompaul> Pelo,  30% failure or 30% slower
[14:32]  * Pelo gets out the cutters : " shall we test it ?"
[14:32] <wols> my 2 finger hunt and peck would be just as fast as normally
[14:32] <picard_pwns_kirk> Pelo: I can barely work with 10
[14:32]  * Pelo gives ompaul  the cutters and hold picard_pwns_kirk  down 
[14:33] <ggoogi> is there a way to kill X only without affecting all the server apps running?
[14:33] <ompaul> ompaul Pelo wols picard_pwns_kirk have we gone offtopic yet?
[14:33] <wols> ggoogi: no
[14:33] <tifine> #join /apache
[14:33] <Pelo> ompaul, I believe so
[14:33] <Pelo> tifine, /join #apache
[14:33] <wols> ompaul: fingers are needed for using ubuntu, so it's clearly ubuntu related
[14:33] <ggoogi> wols: thanks.
[14:33] <Pelo> ggoogi, restarting x will restart all gui apps
[14:33] <devicebusy> Wow, its beautifuly active here :)
[14:34] <seta_12> hello
[14:34] <jaggeror> hi seta_12
[14:34] <seta_12> hi
[14:34] <Pelo> devicebusy,  we are a very busy channel , when on topic , other wise we get nasty
[14:34] <seta_12> i'm new on ubuntu
[14:34] <matttis> pelo, wols: what do I have to do else to get the java plugin running (after installing) ?
[14:34]  * Pelo wonders if this is a busiest channel on the network 
[14:34] <picard_pwns_kirk> seta_12: welcome
[14:34] <seta_12> ;)
[14:34] <Pelo> seta_12,  welcome to the madhouse
[14:34] <picard_pwns_kirk> Pelo: yes it is
[14:34] <devicebusy> Pelo: Restarting X will restart desktop only, others user apps will be terminated
[14:34] <Pelo> matttis, restart FF
[14:35] <ompaul> wols, I see your point, and have seen it used by people who are forced to not use fingers and use the accessibility suite
[14:35] <matttis> Pelo: already did that
[14:35] <ggoogi> Pelo: i wasn't talking about GUI apps.
[14:35] <seta_12> somebody can help me about little problem?
[14:35] <jaggeror> !ask
[14:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:35] <matttis> Pelo: it isn't listed in about:plugins
[14:35] <xevil> seta_12: just ask
[14:35] <Pelo> matttis, then java apps you encounter while browsing should work , anyone specific you are having trouble with ?
[14:35] <seta_12> ok, i have no sound
[14:35] <picard_pwns_kirk> bummer
[14:35] <tifine> any apache guy here ?
[14:36] <picard_pwns_kirk> check your volume settings
[14:36] <wols> ggoogi: anything started in that xsession will stop. if you run a terminal aup under screen, you can later reattach it
[14:36] <wols> ggoogi: apps started with nohup will continue to run
[14:36] <wols> !anyone | tifine
[14:36] <ubotu> tifine: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:36] <matttis> Pelo: on every page firefox says, there some plugins needed to be installed
[14:36] <seta_12> setting vol is ok, my card ii in the list
[14:36] <seta_12> (sorry for my english, i'm french...)
[14:36] <ompaul> !fr | seta_12
[14:36] <ubotu> seta_12: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:37] <zmolik> promin, to nerozumim to pisete???
[14:37] <ggoogi> wols: that means i can kill X without affect server apps?
[14:37] <super61> hello everyone i installed kxmame and im haveing trobel with so roms can anyone help?
[14:37] <seta_12> ok, try this, tanck ;)
[14:37] <wols> ggoogi: yes
[14:37] <ggoogi> affecting*
[14:37] <Pelo> seta_12, c'est pas grave , il y a un canal francais  tape /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:37] <tifine> i cannot be able to display java app on apache2! Does anybody know ?
[14:37] <Pelo> matttis,  I don'T see any -plugin for java listed in mhy about:pluggin either
[14:38] <Pelo> matttis,  give me the url of the site that is giving you trouble
[14:38] <wols> tifine: do you mean something like tomcat or JSP? or do you mean applets in your browser?
[14:38] <wols> "display java app on apache2" doesn't make much/any sense
[14:39] <ggoogi> wols: how do i go about doing that?
[14:39] <avgeneral> how do i use mysql in ruby on rails?
[14:39] <wols> ggoogi: doing what?
[14:39] <wols> avgeneral: #ruby
[14:39] <ggoogi> wols: killing X only.
[14:39] <tifine> wols : i mean i m trying to host jsp page on my website, for running jsp pages i can use tomcat but for externally i want to use apache2
[14:39] <matttis> pelo: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[14:39] <avgeneral> wols: type #ruby in command line?
[14:39] <wols> ggoogi: ctrl+alt+backspace for example
[14:39] <Pelo> matttis, hold on
[14:39] <wols> avgeneral: /join #ruby   in irc
[14:39] <schumi> hekj
[14:39] <avgeneral> oooh
[14:39] <avgeneral> thanks
[14:40] <schumi> #kutno
[14:40] <super61> astro76 you here?
[14:40] <schumi> #polska
[14:40] <wols> schumi:  /join #polska
[14:40] <ggoogi> wols: how about /ect/init.d/gdm stop ?
[14:40] <daxroc> afternoon all
[14:40] <wols> ggoogi: that too
[14:40] <Pelo> matttis,  so I guess the little guy isn'T dancing for your ?
[14:40] <ggoogi> k.
[14:40] <wols> ggoogi: don't forget the sudo
[14:41] <jaggeror> good afternoon daxroc
[14:41] <ggoogi> wols: of course not.
[14:41] <matttis> Pelo: i only see a picture: http://www.java.com/en/img/download/testvm_linux.jpg
[14:41] <daxroc> Are the python bindings for lirc available some where ? ( pylirc )
[14:41] <schumi> hej
[14:41] <schumi> hi everyone
[14:41] <wols> daxroc: apt-cache search pylirc and you will know
[14:42] <Pelo> matttis, a bit higher ? on the page,  in anycase this says that java is isntlled what else do youwant ?
[14:43] <matttis> Pelo: the java thing isn't working on that page, i don't see someone dancing
[14:43] <Pelo> matttis,  ok do you have the backport repos enabled ?
[14:44] <matttis> Pelo: don't know...
[14:44] <schumi> warszawa.ircnet.pl
[14:45] <PmDematagoda> I can't seem to use Frostwire on Ubuntu 8.04 with Java 6 as it gives me an error concerning locking the assertion, can anyone help? Thanks
[14:45] <Pelo> matttis,   menu > system > admin> software sources,  check all the boxes onthe first tab and the backport one on the 3rd tab , then apply and relaod, , then open synaptic
[14:45] <matttis> Pelo: yes, the 3rd tab thing is missing
[14:45] <Pelo> matttis,  then try and install    sun-java5-jre and the -plugins package that goes with it
[14:46] <wols> Scolo: can't you learn using irc on a less busy channel?
[14:46] <Pelo> matttis,  i MEANT sun-java6-jre not 5
[14:46] <dreamcoder> hi is there a linux program to seatch usenet nzbs and download them?
[14:46] <Pelo> matttis,  brb , laundry
[14:46] <Niteye> i have reinstalled, and now cryptsetup keeps failing with "Command failed.", how can i found out wats wrong?
[14:48] <jaggeror> \/part
[14:49] <matttis> !backport
[14:49] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[14:49] <matttis> !packaging
[14:49] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[14:50] <PmDematagoda> Hello, does anyone know any thing about my problem? Thanks
[14:52] <chacha> hay...
[14:52] <janine> bonjour
[14:52] <ompaul> !fr | janine
[14:52] <ubotu> janine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:52] <wols> janine: good afternoon
[14:52] <chacha> ????
[14:53] <janine> merci
[14:53] <ompaul> chacha, this is #ubuntu a support channel for the Ubuntu operating system
[14:53] <ompaul> chacha, this is #ubuntu a support channel for the Ubuntu operating system
[14:53] <chacha> buntu
[14:54] <PmDematagoda> hey, anyone? Please?
[14:54] <myusrnm> xenu
[14:54] <smb095> hi
[14:54] <smb095> quit
[14:54] <chacha> hey..
[14:54] <ompaul> !id | chacha
[14:54] <ubotu> chacha: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[14:54] <ompaul> chacha, /join #ubuntu-id
[14:54] <chacha> any
[14:55] <luisbg> hey ompaul =)
[14:55] <luisbg> how do I kill the "free the fish" fish?
[14:55] <ompaul> luisbg, xkill is not going to help ps auwx | grep ?
[14:55] <ryanakca> what's the difference between the livecd and livedvd?
[14:55] <chacha> free
[14:56] <wols> ryanakca: one of them is bigger than the other
[14:56] <larson9999> wols, it hangs at 'loading please wait'
[14:56] <wols> luisbg: kill/restart your gnome panel
[14:56]  * Pelo is back from haging his load, and thinks hang drying in winter in 19°C might be economical but it is still damn cold
[14:57] <luisbg> wols, how?
[14:57] <wols> larson9999: directly when loading the kernel? nothing else on screen? before that?
[14:57] <bakarat> hi, i'm using ntfsclone to back up an ntfs partition, but the same computer also seems to have 2 FAT32 partitions
[14:57] <bakarat> how can i back those up? does ntfsclone it as well?
[14:58] <ompaul> luisbg, right click on it - and see if you can "remove it"
[14:58] <ryanakca> wols: is it somehow possible to burn the CD image on a DVD? I'm out of blank CDs... but I don't feel like waiting for 4.23GB to download over the next 3 days...
[14:58] <matttis> !amarok
[14:58] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[14:58] <luisbg> ompaul, how is everything?
[14:58] <wols> ryanakca: yes it is. just burn it like normal
[14:58] <rbd> can someone recomend a good web-based interface to managing bind9 (e.g. A records, etc)?
[14:58] <ompaul> luisbg, not here ;-) it is all very good
[14:58] <matttis> is there a good alternative to amarok ?
[14:59] <daxroc> why does macmini remote bind to the volume by default ?
[14:59] <runemaste644> somebody please help me!
[14:59] <encrypt3d> good morning, i was wondering if someone had time to test a private message.  i registered on IRC, but dont know if i did it properly.
[14:59] <ryanakca> wols: oh, sweet, thanks! *cancels the dvd download*
[14:59] <larson9999> before that is one line: [   41.623777] PCI: Cannont allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:00.0
[14:59] <wols> !helpme | runemaste644
[14:59] <runemaste644> X cant find nvidia kernel modules and cant start
[14:59] <ubotu> runemaste644: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[14:59] <mame> Hi i was wondering is there a way to restore Firefox to its defaults?
[14:59] <netdefilr> Is there anyway to play a dvd movie (pirates of the carribean 3) in ubuntu? or do you have to rip it first?
[14:59] <luisbg> wols, how do I kill/restart the gnome panel?
[14:59] <bakarat> encrypt3d, if you can join #java then you have registered succesfully
[14:59] <jrib> encrypt3d: you need to identify with nickserv
[14:59] <runemaste644> i tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[14:59] <wols> luisbg: man kill, man killall
[15:00] <runemaste644> man xkill
[15:00] <wols> runemaste644: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsserver-xorg
[15:00] <daxroc> luisbg: killall -9 gnome-panel && /usr/bin/gnome-panel
[15:00] <luisbg> thanks
[15:00] <runemaste644> xkill is good if you dont know the process name
[15:00] <gourdin> skype not working anymore in gusty
[15:00] <luisbg> damn fish was getting anoying
[15:00] <jrib> daxroc: why -9?
[15:00] <luisbg> ompaul, :)
[15:00] <gourdin> worked fine under feisty
[15:00] <wols> jrib: for the extra tasty violence
[15:00] <runemaste644> well its nvidia kernel mods
[15:00] <encrypt3d> bakarat:  ahh i cannot, alas i dont think i registered properly.
[15:01] <netdefilr> anyone on the dvd issue?
[15:01] <wols> runemaste644: go to a console, "Modprobe nvidia"
[15:01] <Niteye> i have reinstalled, and now cryptsetup keeps failing with "Command failed.", how can i found out wats wrong?
[15:01] <magnetron> gourdin: we do not maintain or support skype. try asking the skype company?
[15:01] <runemaste644> so thats what i need to get
[15:01] <bakarat> encrypt3d, as pointed out before, you also need to msg nickserv to actually log in, did you do that?
[15:01] <wols> runemaste644: no. how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[15:01] <gourdin> magnetron: worked fine under feisty
[15:02] <qaldune> gourdin: are you able to read?? don't repeat yourself
[15:02] <wols> gourdin: irrelevant. ask skype about their properitary, useless, network security destroying software. not us
[15:02] <encrypt3d> bakarat i didnt -- i followed the commands on the IRC website, but when i logged in, i didnt msg them -- is the command found on the IRC website and do i need to msg them each login attempt?
[15:02] <runemaste644> im looking at detailed xserver output to diagnose the problem
[15:02] <bakarat> encrypt3d, do /msg nickserv IDENTIFY <password>
[15:03] <bakarat> encrypt3d, if your program allows it, you can add this command to the startup list of commands to run, otherwise i'm afraid you'll have to do it manually each time
[15:03] <wols> encrypt3d: and yes, you need to do it everytime you connect. but many irc clients can automate it
[15:03] <runemaste644> ok hered the prob
[15:03] <magnetron> gourdin: Skype is not our application. Skype doesn't allow us to see how their software work (or does'nt work). check www.skype.com for support.
[15:03] <gourdin> wols: arf
[15:03] <gourdin> wols: the skype "network' works fine
[15:03] <wols> gourdin: LAST time: go away with your skype problem
[15:03] <runemaste644> (ee) nvidia(0): failed to load the nvidia kernel module!
[15:03] <gourdin> wols: the not modified alsa call wont work anymore
[15:03] <gourdin> sounds like regression to me
[15:04] <runemaste644> (ee) nvidia(0): *** aborting ***
[15:04] <dajaqna> w
[15:04] <wols> runemaste644: I already told you. and asked you a question
[15:04] <jojopumpkin> Question: I am running Ubuntu 7.04 (installed via Wubi) alongside WindowsXP. I am noticing a terribly slow read/write speed on my internal and external HDs while using Ubuntu. I transferred 1gb of photos from my external HD to my /home folder and it took 11 minutes. In Windows it takes about 20 seconds, if that. If I were to simply install Ubuntu as the only OS on my system, would that help? Would reformatting my external with NTFS-g3 too
[15:04] <magnetron> gourdin: skype.com
[15:04] <bakarat> anyone: does ntfsclone also handle fat32 or is there another program to do that?
[15:04] <runemaste644> and it unloaded modules nvidia ramdac and fb
[15:04] <dajaqna> what skype
[15:04] <encrypt3d> Thank you kindly backarat and wols --- i need to do a little more reading it seems.  perhaps the id i thought i registered was taken?
[15:04] <runemaste644> and
[15:04] <dajaqna> and
[15:04] <magnetron> and
[15:04] <wols> gourdin: does your music player, movie player, etc work? do you get sound there?
[15:05] <qaldune> jojopumpkin: if you really want to use ubuntu, you'd better install it normally, not using wubi
[15:05] <runemaste644> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable config.
[15:05] <wols> encrypt3d: ncikserv will tell you if it's so
[15:05] <wols> runemaste644: stop that useless pasting here please
[15:05] <runemaste644> i was just trying to be specific
[15:05] <bakarat> encrypt3d, indeed, and you can use "tab" to complete nicks (normally), so type bak then tab and you get bakarat ;)
[15:06] <encrypt3d> bakarat: test PM
[15:06] <wols> runemaste644: again: how did you install nvidia drivers? and did you change your kernel since then?
[15:06] <runemaste644> and it says gdm is misconfigured
[15:06] <avgeneral> how do i successfully install phpmyadmin via terminal?
[15:06] <runemaste644> yes i installed nvidia drivers
[15:06] <wols> avgeneral: apt-get install phpmyadmin
[15:06] <wols> runemaste644: HOW did you do it?
[15:06] <runemaste644> i hate kernel upgrades
[15:06] <jojopumpkin> qaldune: Will that increase my read/write speeds? Or is Ubuntu that slow in this area?
[15:06] <bakarat> anyone: does ntfsclone also handle fat32 or is there another program to do that?
[15:06] <avgeneral> wols: but when i go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin i get a '404 not found'
[15:06] <qaldune> jojopumpkin: of course it will
[15:06] <runemaste644> i did by restricted drivers
[15:06] <bakarat> sorry to repeat, but it's an urgent question, i'm backing up a computer as we speak
[15:06] <sethk> runemaste644, download and install the nvidia drivers from nvidia's web site.  This works much better when kernel source is installed; at a minimum kernel headers must be installed.
[15:07] <Jocke> May I get a copy of the standard /etc/apt/sources.list in Dapper?
[15:07] <wols> sethk: do no tell people this
[15:07] <qaldune> jojopumking: it will probably be faster than windows. wubi is just a workaround and give problems as those of the same kind do
[15:07] <ibanez> (10:07) · ibanez · !dontask
[15:07] <ibanez> (10:07) · WiFiHelper` · ibanez: "dontask" is (#1) Don't ask when BT3 will be released, or (#2) No, you cant be a beta tester!, or (#3) If you should ask the wrong person, you will be flamed!, or (#4) also Don't ask how beta-testing is going, or (#5) basically, don't continue over this subject or you're risking a kick, or (#6) BT3 will come later, or (#7) no, we will NOT tell you why
[15:07] <ibanez> oh man
[15:07] <ibanez> im sorry
[15:07] <ibanez> :/
[15:07] <jojopumpkin> qaldune: tnx
[15:07] <wols> sethk: this is wrong and NOT supported here. ubuntu has drivers already
[15:07] <runemaste644> how do i do that when i only have nON GRAPHICAL access?????
[15:07] <qaldune> np
[15:07] <gourdin> (not a joke) openwengo got the same problem ?
[15:07] <wols> runemaste644: can you answer my question or do you not understand it?
[15:07] <Lumpy^> hey.. i got problems in saving windows files to ubuntu using samba... is oplock can be the problem? how can i disable it completely?
[15:08] <wols> runemaste644: and LONG ago I told you what to do
[15:08] <gourdin> openwengo can't use my mic anymore
[15:08] <runemaste644> please pm
[15:08] <netdefilr> do new dvds not play under ubuntu?
[15:08] <avgeneral> wols: phpmyadmin still doesn't work
[15:08] <gourdin> wengo worked fine under feitsy
[15:08] <wols> avgeneral: does /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ exist?
[15:09] <sethk> wols, it is NOT wrong.  It works quite well.  I've been on this channel for two years; don't lecture me about things you don't understand.
[15:09] <wols> sethk: it is WRONG
[15:09] <avgeneral> wols: yes
[15:09] <wols> !nvidia | sethk
[15:09] <ubotu> sethk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:09] <qwaz> Does anyone know how to set conky's window title?
[15:09] <sethk> wols, obviously he's already done that, but if you prefer that he has no GUI, then stay with your recommendation.
[15:09] <wols> sethk: it breaks with the next kernel upgrade evreytime. it breaks your packagemanagement since it doesn't care about dpkg nstalled files, it messes with dependencies since programs don't know that glx is isntalled, etc
[15:10] <wols> it's simply wrong
[15:10] <sethk> wols, nonsense.
[15:10] <sethk> complete, utter, nonsense
[15:10] <sethk> amazing.
[15:10] <sethk> wols, if you've installed the packages first, obviously the dependencies are satisfied.
[15:10] <Lumpy^> help?
[15:10] <wols> sethk: which packages?
[15:11] <sethk> wols, if you then fix the problem with a newer driver, there are absolutely no negative implications.
[15:11] <Jocke> Someone that's running Ubuntu Dapper, please help me
[15:11] <wols> sethk: there are. it breaks people's systems after they upgrade
[15:11] <sethk> wols, the nvidia driver.  If you install ubuntu's nvidia restricted driver, and then install the newer one, the dependencies are complete correct.
[15:11] <Jocke> I need a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:11] <wols> sethk: if you already have the ubuntu drivers, why would you install the nvidia.com ones?
[15:12] <theseeker_> sorry for the interception, I have some problems with my usb audio card and jack (jack server not starting)
[15:12] <daxroc> any one know if there is a specific kernel module for the macmini lirc remote ?
[15:12] <wols> and as soon as you upgrade again you get the ubuntu drivers again
[15:12] <sethk> wols, because it is newer and works better with some of the newer boards.
[15:12] <runemaste644> ok i see how
[15:12] <Rubin> daxroc, google?
[15:12] <amaury_> Bonjour , j'ai un petit probleme de avec mon wifi ( carte wifi linksys (reconnu par ubu ) sous club internet avec clé wep ), j'ai utilisé plusieur  logiciel pour me connecté au réseau mais en vain. Lorsque je scan ( avec sudo iwlist ra0 scan ) il trouve le réseau mais trouve pas le essid !! quelqu'un peu m'aider ???
[15:12] <sethk> wols, well, possibly.  hopefully by that time ubuntu has the newer driver.  If not, you install it again.  so what?
[15:12] <runemaste644> but my question is how to do it in command line
[15:12] <wols> !fr | amaury_
[15:12] <ubotu> amaury_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:12] <daxroc> Rubin: google doesnt help ! thats why im asking !
[15:13] <Rubin> daxroc, i'd guess if its not in google, the answer is no
[15:13] <wols> sethk: you install unsupported software not in ubuntu. for nvidia.com drivers: #nividia
[15:13] <soldia> hola
[15:13] <daxroc> Rubin: being that google is god eh !
[15:13] <sethk> wols, I know that perfectly.  I do what's necessary to make things work.  I don't worry about politics.
[15:13] <wols> Rubin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  choose nv. and you have a gui to isntall nvidia drivers the ubuntu way
[15:13] <spezi|Fanta> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
[15:13] <wols> if you want anothre way: ask sethk
[15:13] <soldia> someone spanish??
[15:13] <Rubin> wols: huh?
[15:14] <spezi|Fanta> why is this happening?
[15:14] <runemaste644> hablas no espanol
[15:14] <magnetron> !es | soldia
[15:14] <ubotu> soldia: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:14] <qaldune> soldia si
[15:14] <Rubin> spezi|Fanta, what are you trying to compile?
[15:14] <soldia> holaa
[15:14] <sethk> soldia, there is a spanish channel.  If that doesn't help, then PM me.
[15:14] <wols> sethk: then you are in the wrong place as I said: if you are here, do it the ubuntu way, if you are in nvidia: their way
[15:14] <sethk> wols, that's dogma, it has no place in a support channel.
[15:14] <spezi|Fanta> Rubin, a acpi modul
[15:14] <qwaz> when I installed ubuntu, there was a "notification" type icon in my top panel.  What program was that, I'd like to re-add it
[15:15] <spezi|Fanta> they say run "make"
[15:15] <wols> sethk: it has. just like we don't support skype here for example. or automatix. or envy. or any ot the other crappy, ubuntu-breaking things
[15:15] <runemaste644> how do i check to see if a package is installed through cli?
[15:15] <Rubin> spezi|Fanta, is there a Makefile?
[15:15] <spezi|Fanta> yes
[15:15] <qaldune> wols what matter here is helping people to have their ubuntu installations fully working. i don't think it matters the way you help people since you do
[15:15] <matttis> Pelo: i also installed the "Sun Java 5.0 Plugin". Only with "Java 1.4 plugin for mozilla/firefox" it didn't work. Now it works
[15:15] <Rubin> runemaste644, dpkg -l packagename
[15:15] <runemaste644> wow. that was fast
[15:15] <wols> qaldune: yes fully working. and nvidia.com drivers break their systems in the future
[15:15] <sethk> wols, it's wrong to characterize something that works better as being similar to something that doesn't work at all.
[15:16] <spezi|Fanta> Rubin, yes there is a Makefile
[15:16] <wols> sethk: if nvidia.com works better, file a bug in launchpad. if it's better I'm sure ubuntu adopts your solution
[15:16] <Pelo> matttis,  I corrected myself, you probably missed it ,  I told you to install java6 and the pluggin
[15:16] <wols> sethk: heck, write it in the wiki, etc
[15:16] <Rubin> spezi|Fanta, hmm. are you following a guide of some kind?
[15:16] <runemaste644> well, it helps to plug in an ethernet cable
[15:16] <sethk> wols, you are missing the point.  Always, and unavoidably, the distro kernel and drivers are a bit behind.  That's how a distro adds value.  Occasionally, though, it is necessary to go with the newer code.
[15:17] <matttis> Pelo: no, I ignored it :-) which one is better ?
[15:17] <ktosia> hello, in KDE, how to have  alt-tab  going through all windows from all desktops?
[15:17] <sethk> wols, ubuntu will surely do a back port, but for the person who's system is not working, that doesn't help much.
[15:17] <spezi|Fanta> Rubin, yeah the README file
[15:17] <matttis> Pelo: the problem is i didn't found the same for version 6
[15:17] <Pelo> matttis,  use the java6 it it the latest,  sun-java6-jre and the related -plugin package , that should be it, remove the 5 one
[15:18] <matttis> Pelo: there's no package called java 6 plugin or something like that
[15:18] <Rubin> spezi|Fanta, you made need other sources to make it work.. it can be hard to recompile parts of also because its so intertwined in the other packages
[15:18] <sethk> wols, and ubuntu has, unfortunately, a serious problem in that they frequently provide only binary, and no source, for backports.
[15:18] <Rubin> spezi|Fanta, what are you trying to do?
[15:18] <wols> sethk: his card was working before, the ubuntu drivers worked. right now the ubuntudrivers support all nvidia cards out right now afaik
[15:18] <Pelo> matttis,  hold on
[15:18] <wols> sethk: this is not like when 8600 was new and there was no drivre for it in ubuntu so what you say doesn't apply
[15:18] <ktosia> hello, in KDE, how to have  alt-tab  going through all windows from all desktops?
[15:19] <bakarat> anyone: does ntfsclone also handle fat32 or is there another program to do that?
[15:19] <sethk> wols, That's true.  Now it's the 8800 that's new, rather than the 8600.  There are always new cards.
[15:19] <wols> bakarat: dd does it, mondo does it, etc
[15:19] <matttis> Pelo: there's only Sun Java 6 Web Start, Sun Java 6 Web Start (32 bit) and Sun Java 6 Console
[15:19] <runemaste644> im wondering how nvidia got uninstalled when my laptop wasnt on
[15:19] <wols> sethk: and it doesn't work with the ubuntu drivers? really?
[15:19] <bakarat> wols, ok
[15:19] <Rubin> bakarat, partimage?
[15:19] <runemaste644> its just weird
[15:19] <sethk> wols, specifically, the latest nvidia driver adds support for quadro fx 290, fx 370, fx 570, fx 1700.
[15:20] <Rubin> runemaste644, elfs
[15:20] <sethk> wols, some 8800's work, but some of the very newest ones don't.
[15:20] <bakarat> Rubin, is that default installed on the livecd?
[15:20] <wols> sethk: all beside the point: he has nvidia working before.
[15:20] <ibanez> !ati
[15:20] <sethk> wols, plus there is a fix for 7050 also
[15:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:20] <runemaste644> ok, now how do i start x on virtual terminal 7?
[15:20] <wols> 7050? from nvidia? since when?
[15:20] <sethk> wols, not besides the point, because you made a blanket statement.  That blanket statement isn't true.
[15:20] <Kvist> Most of my fonts look like crap. What resolution per inch should I use for the fonts? My screen resolution is 1920 x 1200
[15:20] <Pelo> matttis, in the terminal  ( close synaptic first)   sudo apt-get instal sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-bin
[15:21] <sethk> wols, there is a fix for a serious 7050 bug in the latest driver.
[15:21] <Pelo> matttis, in the terminal  ( close synaptic first)   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-bin
[15:21] <sethk> wols, I don't recommend that people use it routinely, but in some cases it's the right thing to do.
[15:21] <wols>  /ignore sethk
[15:21] <Pelo> matttis, use the second line,  I made a typo
[15:21]  * runemaste644 crosses fingers
[15:21] <saik0> runemaster644: 7 is the default
[15:21] <wols> runemaste644: start gdm
[15:21] <qwaz> when I installed ubuntu, there was a "notification" type icon in my top panel.  What program was that, I'd like to re-add it
[15:21] <sethk> wols, IRC ignores you if the first character of your command is a space.  :)   which you know, and are probably baiting me.  :)
[15:22] <qwaz> it was for updates
[15:22] <runemaste644> ok i got fatal server error no screens found
[15:22] <sethk> qwaz, how did you lose it?
[15:22] <qwaz> sethk: I'm sure I removed it
[15:22] <qwaz> sethk: while playing with the panels
[15:23] <atlef> qwaz: when there are new updates, you will see that icon
[15:23] <mentalray> can some1 tell me what is the use for a process call nautilus(cuz it taking 49% of my cpu usage) ?
[15:23] <Kvist> Most of my fonts look like crap. What resolution per inch should I use for the fonts? My screen resolution is 1920 x 1200
[15:23] <wols> runemaste644: which driver are you trying to use?
[15:23] <runemaste644> nvidia-glx
[15:23] <sethk> runemaste644, that usually means the configuration file isn't correct for the driver.  (That's why I recommended the nvidia driver, since it properly updates the configuration file.)  Usually running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will fix you problem.
[15:23] <wols> Kvist: depends on the screensize
[15:23] <Kvist> wols: 17"
[15:24] <runemaste644> well then can you help me choose the right stuff
[15:24] <runemaste644> like the mouse input and other things easy to mess up
[15:24] <sethk> Kvist, I use 1920 x 1200 without a problem.  The resolution is not the cause of your problem.
[15:25] <sethk> runemaste644, s/you/your/
[15:25] <sethk> runemaste644, I should hedge and say "usually fix your problem" but it almost always works.
[15:25] <Richard51684> Hey guys, I was wondering, in Firefox, when I hit backspace in a webpage it acts like a page up button. Why is this?
[15:25] <Rubin> mendred, thats the process that shows you files on your computer in the GUI
[15:25] <Kvist> wols: 17"
[15:25] <runemaste644> well i usually prefer to use a text editor for xorg.conf
[15:26] <runemaste644> like nano
[15:26] <Rubin> Richard51684, theres a huge debate at firefox regarding the backspace key.. half want that, half want it to be 'back'
[15:26] <bakarat> anyone know what happens if i restore a 21gig ntfs partition (cloned with ntfsclone) to a 80 gig ntfs partition?
[15:26] <Rubin> Richard51684, theres an about:config setting i think..
[15:26] <sethk> runemaste644, if you can fix your problem that way, have at it.
[15:26] <Richard51684> Oh, I forgot about that.
[15:26] <mendred> Rubin: ummm i usually use dolphin
[15:26] <Richard51684> Why would anyone want it to be a page up key? Doesn't make sense
[15:26] <sethk> bakarat, essentially you'll waste 59 gigs of space
[15:26] <ktosia> how to stop fucking thunderbird for stupid asking me each time about invalid certificate for an account?
[15:26] <demento> hello anybody knows how i can clone my installation?
[15:27] <sethk> Richard51684, it doesn't act as a page up key here.
[15:27] <wols> !clone
[15:27] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:27] <bakarat> sethk, can ubuntu livecd partition a drive and format is as ntfs?
[15:27] <sethk> bakarat, no.
[15:27] <sethk> bakarat, well, partition, yes, format, no.
[15:27] <Richard51684> I'm pretty sure it comes configured as a page up key. Firefox, on Ubuntu gutsy that is.
[15:27] <sethk> bakarat, it can do vfat, and then windows can convert vfat to ntfs
[15:27] <Rubin> Richard51684, its annoying, i agree.
[15:27] <bakarat> sethk, hmm, so either i waste 59 gigs of space or i reinstall the windows from scratch...
[15:27] <wols> bakarat: ntfsprogs has a program for formatting ntfs but I wouldn't use it personally
[15:27] <demento> !clone is an application?
[15:27] <wols> |clone | demento
[15:28] <wols> !clone | demento
[15:28] <ubotu> demento: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:28] <Rubin> Richard51684, http://www.tummy.com/journals/entries/kevin_20051207_224655
[15:28] <Rubin> etc
[15:28] <bakarat> i think i'll reinstall windows from scratch, though that will take a while..
[15:28] <Kvist> Most of my fonts look like crap. What resolution per inch should I use for the fonts? My screen resolution is 1920 x 1200
[15:28] <sethk> bakarat, how about temporarily sticking an extra drive in the box, restoring to that drive, and then copying to the new partition?  You'll still need windows to create the bigger partition, so that may not help you if you can't boot to windows at the moment.
[15:28] <Kvist> 17"
[15:29] <bakarat> sethk, the idea was to keep the programs etc, that's why i cloned the drive (well, part of the reason)
[15:29] <Rubin> bakarat, you can resize ntfs partitions with parted
[15:29] <bakarat> sethk, so simply copying it won't work (afaik)
[15:29] <demento> thanks but can I burn the image for a later installation without doing any configuration?
[15:29] <bakarat> Rubin, so, restore the image, then resize?
[15:29] <Rubin> bakarat, restore it to the same size it was, then resize, yes
[15:29] <sethk> bakarat, if it isn't a bootable partition, copying will work.  If it is, then copying won't work.
[15:29] <RickX> has anyone had the menus in kcontrol disappear?
[15:29] <bakarat> sethk, fixmbr should do the trick (with a windows cd that is)
[15:29] <bakarat> ?
[15:29] <bakarat> sethk, or am i missing something?
[15:30] <sethk> bakarat, that takes care of only the mbr.
[15:30] <bakarat> sethk, ah, what other step is there then?
[15:30] <sethk> bakarat, windows can be very picky about the physical location of the boot image on the partition.
[15:30] <sethk> bakarat, resizing may work
[15:30] <bakarat> sethk, the image would be put onto the partition that was bootable before
[15:30] <wols> bakarat: usueally fxmbr, fixboot does it, but: ##windows
[15:30] <sethk> bakarat, you'll want to create the partition to be the same size as the cloned one, restore, and then resize.
[15:31] <bakarat> wols, ok :)
[15:31] <bakarat> sethk, creating the partition is the problem here right?
[15:31] <bakarat> sethk, since there are no reliable tools in ubuntu to do it
[15:31] <proteus> g'morning everyone, I'm having an odd problem: after some apparently random amount of time samba mounts that are being used by apps like audacious and amarok suddenly go down. Not only do they go down, but the directories that the samba shares were mounted to become inaccessible - anything that tries to access it locks up completely. When I do an ls-al the permissions are just blank spaces and question marks. I'd really appreciate any ideas
[15:31] <proteus>  you guys could give me.
[15:31] <proteus> the samba servers themselves remain accessable, and I can remount to a different directory without any problems but when I've got a half dozen apps expecting their crap to be in a directory that suddenly freaks out, a lot of stuff breaks and it happens consistently
[15:31] <proteus> here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47543/plain/
[15:31] <wols> bakarat: there are tons. any fdisk program can do it
[15:31] <sethk> bakarat, no, that's not true.  The tools for creating the partition are reliable.  It's creating the ntfs file system that is the problem.
[15:32] <sethk> bakarat, if you know the starting and ending cylinder numbers, there is no problem at all.
[15:32] <LjL> If some of you couldn't speak in the last 30 seconds, please try again.
[15:33] <daxroc> Should irw report buttons pressed on an apple mini remote , the events apear in xev but no output from irw, the correct device is specified in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf and the daemon has been restarted
[15:33] <proteus> If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this, I'd really appreciate it
[15:34] <runemaste644> wats up with the d-lines?
[15:34] <daxroc> Im stuck with the remote permantly bound to gnome volume up/down ie will not change for other applications like it should
[15:34] <proteus> I'm new to (x)ubuntu and I'm not sure how to go about this
[15:34] <ompaul> proteus, there is #xubuntu
[15:34] <proteus> yeah, they told me to come here
[15:35] <ompaul> runemaste644, something brewing that got shut down
[15:35] <larson9999> wols, it was memory.  i'm a moron.  this board only supports 2 gig and i had 4 in.
[15:35] <proteus> and it's not really a xubuntu problem
[15:35] <sethk> proteus, that's true, it's a samba issue, same for any ubuntu, in fact same for any linux
[15:35] <proteus> I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the ui
[15:36] <proteus> thanks
[15:36] <matttis> pelo: i found it in synaptic. before I used gnome-app-install, whatever that might be :-)
[15:36] <wols> larson9999: good to know. what chipset (so I can avoid it in the future if the need arises)?
[15:36] <Richard51684> Does anyone know how to change the firefox backspace from page up to actually back
[15:36] <proteus> sethk, do you have any idea what could be causing it to happen?
[15:37] <ompaul> proteus, http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-December/097520.html mgiht help you some - don't do samba myself
[15:37] <bakarat> sethk, currently the 59 gig partition holds it's own windows installation on ntfs, can i simply restore the 21 gig image over it? or would this give me problems with partition tables and such?
[15:37] <andrew-m> Richard, you could check to see if your keyboard layout is ok (correct country)
[15:37] <larson9999> wols, via k8m890
[15:38] <qwaz> Does anyone have some experience with getting a sound blaster 5.1 to work?  I don't get sound out of all my speakers.
[15:38] <Ildjarn> what
[15:38] <sethk> bakarat, The partition starting and ending cylinders _must_ be the same as the original cloned partition.  Otherwise resizing definitely will not work.
[15:38] <ompaul> Richard51684, you have alt left arrow - as I have not looked at that kind of detail
[15:38] <larson9999> wols, now the joy of trying to take a mobo back :)
[15:38] <bakarat> sethk, any way to find out what they are?
[15:38] <proteus> ompaul, yeah, it looks like the same problem but they don't talk about a fix
[15:38] <wols> larson9999: seves you right that you bought via crap :P
[15:39] <wols> larson9999: karma imho :)
[15:39] <sethk> bakarat, If it's the first partition, the starting cylinder is the same.  So if you know the exact size, you can compute the end cylinder.  To do so you need the geometry info for the disk.  fdisk -l will show you that info.
[15:39] <ompaul> Richard51684, have a look at about:config which is how you do a lot of config stuff to the browser - btw only change one thing at a time and write it down ;-)
[15:39] <sethk> bakarat, if it's sda, then fdisk -l /dev/sda.  If it's hda, then fdisk -l /dev/hda.  etc.
[15:39] <Richard51684> I found it, nevermind.
[15:39] <neil_d> does the virtualbox vm have a network boot option ?
[15:40] <larson9999> wols, i always buy the cheapest i can find.  actually, i usually get my stuff from dumpsters or curbside.  i just went to compusa to buy some ram for my wife's laptop and picked this up then.  that'll teach me
[15:40] <sethk> qwaz, some of the soundblasters use an "ensonique" driver.
[15:40] <qwaz> sethk: gotcha...lookin into it
[15:41] <sethk> larson9999, compusa's RAM prices are frequently outrageous, above and beyond the tech issues.
[15:41] <runemaste644> ok, how do i fix my xserver without reconfiguring xorg
[15:41] <wols> lancetw: buying cheap is fine (/me looks at his k7s5a mobos here) but you have to be discerning still :)
[15:41] <runemaste644> reconfiguring xorg causes nothing but trouble
[15:41] <sethk> proteus, I hate to send you bouncing around IRC, but there is a #samba channel.  I would need much more info just to begin to help you with this.
[15:42] <wols> runemaste644: put "nv" instead of "nvidia" in your xorg.conf. then you have a gui and can install drivers via synaptic
[15:42] <proteus> sethk, thanks, I'll check it out
[15:42] <LAMMER> hellov!
[15:42] <runemaste644> does it really work
[15:42] <runemaste644> and does it give me a window manager
[15:42] <wols> runemaste644: apart from that "modprobe nvidia" could work too and then you run run the nvidia drivers again
[15:42] <LAMMER> çäåñü ÷î ïî ðóññêè íå ãîâîðÿò?
[15:43] <__boomer> hello, can anyone tell me what i have to change that the windowsclock shows the same time as the clock in linux?
[15:43] <lifeforms> Q: My Ubuntu 6.06 LTS box doesn't have an in.telnetd.. is there a package to add this? [in b4 'insecure', have to get a legacy telnet-based console app running]
[15:43] <wols> runemaste644: yes it really works
[15:43] <ompaul> runemaste644, that is what you do - you want to go back to your live cd and when you have a gui copy back the xserver-org xorg.conf file to your /etc/X11/ or check out the previous versions and get the oldest one and copy that back
[15:43] <LjL> !english | LAMMER
[15:43] <ubotu> LAMMER: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:43] <runemaste644> or...
[15:43]  * runemaste644 has an idea
[15:43] <wols> lifeforms: there is.
[15:43] <bakarat> sethk, ok thanks, i'm looking into it
[15:43] <runemaste644> how do i make it use the Vesa driver?
[15:43] <piglit> what is roaming mode in network settings?
[15:43] <wols> runemaste644: use "vesa" instead of "nvidia" in the xorg.conf
[15:44] <lifeforms> wols: oh sensei, tell me where I can find this treasure!
[15:44] <runemaste644> vesa is failproof
[15:44] <Cesco> hello
[15:44] <piglit> one pc wont connect to the network and i dont know why
[15:44] <Pelo> matttis, are you still having difficulties ? sorry I've been in and out doing laundry, I didn'T realy keep up
[15:44] <Cesco> how install vb 2005 on my ubuntu????
[15:44] <spezi|Fanta> hi. i have a new modul but how do i load it?
[15:44] <matttis> Pelo: no, everythings ok, it was just fyi
[15:44] <lifeforms> a find / -name '*telnetd*' yields nothing.. dpkg -l gives a telnet client, but I have that one
[15:44] <runemaste644> ill have to chang a lot
[15:44] <spezi|Fanta> i always keep seeing the old version
[15:45] <runemaste644> it says driver nvidia and board nv
[15:45] <Pelo> matttis, congrats
[15:45] <runemaste644> so which do i use?
[15:45] <matttis> Pelo: :-) thanks to you too
[15:45] <wols> lifeforms: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=in.telnetd&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[15:46] <sethk> runemaste644, nv is the 2d open source driver.  nvidia is the 3d closed source driver from nvidia
[15:46] <Richard51684> Uhm, my sound is very low, about at 50% it's unhearable and on 100% it feels like 25%, is there a way to increase the sound levels?
[15:46] <lifeforms> wols: I love you!
[15:46] <sethk> runemaste644, unless you are gaming, nv works just fine.
[15:46] <Ildjarn> Someone please help me with my fonts.. they're horrible.. I changed it to 133 dots per inch, and now it's even worse than before
[15:46] <runemaste644> i mean which do i change to vesa, driver or board, and where to change it
[15:46] <Cesco> Help me please!! how install vb 2005 on my ubuntu????
[15:46] <runemaste644> vesa is the open source universal driver
[15:47] <ctothe1> The 2.6.23 kernel has an update that fixes issues with my NIC (sky2 and Marvell Yukon). Is there an easy way to update the kernel? My last effort didn't fare too well...
[15:47] <sethk> Cesco, you don't.  You can install it under a windows emulator, but that's not running it in ubuntu exactly.
[15:47] <bakarat> sethk, so, what i do is (once i have the end cylinder) start up fdisk on my ntfs drive, and delete the current partitions and add one with the exact size of the clone i have, then without formatting as ntfs, i put the clone on that partition, then boot with windows cd and do fixmbr & fixboot and it "should" work?
[15:48] <soundray> Cesco: I suggest you stick with Windows if you need Visual Basic.
[15:48] <sethk> ctothe1, I did that last week at work.  I did finally get it working, but it was not trivial.  The 2.6.23 kernel is only available in source from kernel.org; ubuntu doesn't yet support it.
[15:48] <sethk> ctothe1, which means you have to build the kernel from source.  It's not really all that difficult.  PM me if you want to attempt it.
[15:48] <Cesco> Thenk you soundray!!
[15:49] <soundray> Cesco: you're welcome.
[15:49] <soundray> Cesco: to write software for Linux, I suggest you start learning Python.
[15:49] <Cesco> good!
[15:49] <luckyone> hello all, can anyone point me to a good tutorial for setting up multi-domain postfix
[15:50] <Rubin> cesco, soundray i endorse python, but he might also be interested in gambas2
[15:50] <Cesco> I know very well C!!
[15:50] <sethk> bakarat, yes.  Actually, you don't necessarily have to do fixmbr and fixboot.  I wouldn't do them unless it isn't working.
[15:50] <ctothe1> sethk: Hmm damn. Yeah I was able to build the kernel myself, but could not get the nvidia driver built properly (tried 2 ways), and it also didn't recognize sound card.
[15:50] <runemaste644> are there any modules i need to make it not load?
[15:50] <sethk> ctothe1, I was able to build the nvidia driver, using the package from nvidia's web site.
[15:51] <bakarat> sethk, ok thanks :)
[15:51] <sethk> ctothe1, if you follow the procedure correctly the sound should work.
[15:51] <mullcom> ware are the program mapp  ther all program files are?
[15:51] <Cesco> are you programmer???
[15:51] <spezi|Fanta> how do i uninstall moduls
[15:51] <sethk> Cesco, if you know C you'll have little trouble with python
[15:51] <soundray> Cesco: not really, I get all my work done with bash scripts usually.
[15:51] <wols> spezi|Fanta: modprobe -r <module> ?
[15:51] <wols> spezi|Fanta: or more permantently?
[15:52] <sethk> spezi|Fanta, rmmod, if you mean temporarily on the running kernel.
[15:52] <runemaste644> ok it failed to initalize the glx extention
[15:52] <ctothe1> sethk: which procedure did you follow? also, if you update the kernel, will it interfere with other updates released for ubuntu?
[15:52] <spezi|Fanta> wols, well I got a old and a new vesion. i want to deinstall the old and run the new one
[15:52] <wols> runemaste644: to be expected since it's the nvidia glx which obviously can't work
[15:52] <wols> spezi|Fanta: of what exactly?
[15:53] <sethk> ctothe1, I can go through the procedure with you; PM me.  I'm a kernel developer, so I didn't follow anyone's procedure, I created my own.
[15:53] <spezi|Fanta> its call asus_acpi
[15:53] <spezi|Fanta> wols, o.30 is running but i need 0.40 to use bluetooth
[15:53] <wols> spezi|Fanta: replace the one in /lib/modules/`uname -r` with the new one
[15:54] <spezi|Fanta> ok
[15:54] <spezi|Fanta> thx
[15:54] <wols> spezi|Fanta: then run sudo depmod -a
[15:54] <Cesco> I'm 17 year old and I go to informatic school!!!
[15:54] <runemaste644> ok so how do i make the glx work?
[15:54] <wols> sethk: may I ask what you develop for the kernel?
[15:54] <Cesco> i will do C++!!!
[15:54] <wols> runemaste644: reinstall nvidia drivers
[15:54] <sethk> wols, device drivers, primarily.
[15:54] <Cesco> or Visual C++
[15:54] <wols> sethk: which ones I meant
[15:54] <runemaste644> what packages are nvidia drivers?
[15:55] <wols> !nvidia
[15:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:55] <runemaste644> i already did nvidia-glx
[15:55] <wols> runemaste644: you need to install the kernel module too
[15:55] <sethk> wols, mostly in the last couple of years proprietary ones, unfortunately.  For qualcomm, and for watchguard.  I just started a new project at Bug Labs which is open source, thankfully.
[15:56] <sethk> wols, I also do kernel ports onto new hardware.  Did one for an xscale processor last year, plus a redboot port for the same hardware.
[15:56] <sethk> wols, xscale is an Intel IC with an ARM core and various peripherals on the same chip.
[15:57] <sethk> wols, which you probably already know.
[15:57] <Cesco> bye bye
[15:57] <Qjimbo> Hi
[15:57] <LAMMER> please give me URL on russian chat
[15:57] <ctothe1> sethk: pm'd you if you didn't see it.
[15:57] <brobostigon> hi
[15:57] <SpookyE1> Has anyone made a Beagle 0.3.0 deb?
[15:57] <wols> !ru | LAMMER
[15:57] <ubotu> LAMMER: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[15:58] <sethk> ctothe1, I didn't.  Possibly your nick isn't registered?  I'll create a temporary channel, hold on a moment ...
[15:58] <runemaste644> ok which do i need legacy glx or new
[15:58] <sethk> ctothe1, join #temp09
[15:58] <brobostigon> i have an interesting question, does google earth work on powerpc gutsy, i know it works on x86 linux, but what about powerpc, any thoughts????
[15:58] <wols> runemaste644: depends on your nvidia chip. which one is it?
[15:58] <runemaste644> i have a quadro nvs 10m/geforce go 7300 rev a1
[15:58] <Znuff> Hi. Where would I set the default "umask" for a user so gnome/kde/xfce obbeys it?
[15:59] <runemaste644> *110m
[15:59] <wols> runemaste644: new then, not legacy
[15:59] <wols> legacy is gf4 era and such
[15:59] <runemaste644> and not plain?
[15:59] <runemaste644> so i need the 97xx driver
[16:00] <sethk> Znuff, in .bashrc, and also in the login equivalent, .bash_profile.
[16:00] <Znuff> sethk, I tried in .profile, .bash_profile... doesn't change. It's still 0022
[16:00] <sethk> Znuff, in $HOME.  That's specific to one user; if you want it to apply to multiple users, there are equivalent files in /etc.
[16:00] <qwaz> sethk: speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav only gives me sound from front left
[16:00] <ctothe1> sethk: k, there
[16:00] <sethk> Znuff, what did you add, specifically?
[16:00] <Znuff> sethk, umask 000
[16:01] <runemaste644> ok ill try nvidia-glx-new
[16:01] <wols> runemaste644: the driver with the highest version number you can find
[16:01] <runemaste644> lets hope this works!
[16:01] <VOmitO> alguem usa ubuntu 64bit?
[16:01]  * runemaste644 crosses fingers once more
[16:01] <kelsin> Znuff: the ubuntu umask is set in /etc/profile
[16:02] <PriceChild> !es | VOmitO
[16:02] <ubotu> VOmitO: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:02] <Znuff> kelsin, there has to be a way to set it for a single user.
[16:02] <Znuff> kelsin, /etc/profile is system-wide
[16:02] <VOmitO> ayuda con distro ubuntu 64bit
[16:02] <runemaste644> ok so it will remove nvidia-glx and replace it with nvidia-glx-new
[16:02] <VOmitO> no conssigo instalar
[16:02] <jrib> Znuff: you need something that is read by the login manager (for example ~/.xprofile seems to work)
[16:02] <Ttech> V0mit0: English here
[16:03] <jrib> VOmitO: /join #ubuntu-es
[16:03] <Znuff> jrib, I'd like bash to listen to that too :-/ also the login manager
[16:03] <jrib> Znuff: it should
[16:04] <jrib> Znuff: unless you have it getting reset somewhere else
[16:04] <chazco> !deb
[16:04] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[16:04] <Qjimbo> Is there anyone here who might be able to help me with graphics card drivers
[16:04] <Qjimbo> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3220&SubCatID=158
[16:05] <Qjimbo> I don't have the default ubuntu kernal so the drivers don't want to install
[16:05] <chazco> Anyone know how to create a .deb? I'd like to extract some files to /opt/somedir, create menu entries and file assosiations...
[16:05] <jrib> Qjimbo: build the drivers for your kernel then
[16:05] <Qjimbo> I can't see the source for them on that page
[16:05] <Qjimbo> I'm not sure if they even provide the source for the graphics drivers
[16:05] <jrib> Qjimbo: go to nvidia's website
[16:06] <Qjimbo> it's not an nvidia
[16:06] <Qjimbo> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3220&SubCatID=158
[16:06] <Qjimbo> it's a VIA Unichrome Pro
[16:06] <kelsin> Znuff: yeah setting it in ~/.xprofile as jrib said worked for me
[16:06] <jrib> Qjimbo: ah, then you need to contact them probably
[16:06] <runemaste644> well, lets be picky today...
[16:06] <jrib> !packaging > chazco (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:06] <runemaste644> (talking to my xserver
[16:06] <Qjimbo> is there no way I can fool the installer into thinking I have a different kernal?
[16:07] <wols> Qjimbo: what for?
[16:07] <Ttech> =I dont know. :P
[16:07] <wols> Qjimbo: you cannot fool the installer. all you can do is actually use another kernel when installing
[16:07] <spezi|Fanta> wols, to keep a model loaded (starup) is it ok just to put the file in the /lib/moduls/... folder?
[16:07] <Qjimbo> ah right
[16:07] <wols> spezi|Fanta: what "model"?
[16:08] <spezi|Fanta> modul
[16:08] <Jensss> hello, can someone tell me how to open a file in the terminal as root?
[16:08] <spezi|Fanta> sorry
[16:08] <BSG75> anyone know why I am getting EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended..
[16:08] <riotkittie> Jensss: what kind of file?
[16:08] <riotkittie> Jensss: prefix with sudo.
[16:08] <Jensss> /var/lib/dpkg/status, that's the file I want to open
[16:08] <spezi|Fanta> a got a new modul and it works fine. just wanna know ift i have to wirte its name in some kind a file
[16:08] <bakarat> sethk, you happen to know which command i need to use to put the clone (a regular file in this case, not the special image format) back onto a disk?
[16:08] <runemaste644> ok compatible nvidia x driver not found
[16:08] <jrib> BSG75: because the maximal mount count was reached and the partition has not been fsck'ed?
[16:09] <bakarat> sethk, ntfsclone --output /dev/hda myclone.img ?
[16:09] <jrib> BSG75: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[16:09] <BSG75> jrib: it's a TB drive and shouldn't it do that at boot .. one sec jrib
[16:09] <SuicideSalmon> last night I was trying to use this computer as a sort of jukebox, and after about 5 minutes we kept getting "The contents of this folder cannot be displayed" on nearly all the music folders. I tried "cp * /home/james/Desktop/new/" but got the same issue, ls -all worked fine in the directories, any idea what the issue was? I had to reboot into windows in the end
[16:09] <Jensss> riotkittie: that's a systemfile, so how to open it?
[16:09] <wols> spezi|Fanta: you have a asus-acpi*,ko file somewhere under /lib/modules. you need to replace exacty that with the new one. none other
[16:10] <sethk> bakarat, that I don't know, I haven't used that particular tool.  I just use dd to clone.  (which obviously isn't available from windows.)
[16:10] <riotkittie> Jensss: sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/status | less ... unless you want to write to it
[16:10] <IanLiu> How do I find zeroes of a polynom using Axiom? I tried solve(x**4+1=0, z) but he didn't solve it....
[16:10] <bakarat> sethk, i'm running this from ubuntu livecd
[16:10] <spezi|Fanta> ok thx
[16:10] <proximo> hi there, are there any reason not to use firefox3 ?
[16:10]  * wols hands riotkittie the useless use of cat award of the day
[16:10] <Jensss> riotkittie: yes, i want to write in the file
[16:10] <wols> proximo: yes, it's probably buggy
[16:10] <sethk> bakarat, I know, but I still don't know the answer because I haven't used that particular tool.  :)
[16:11] <runemaste644> i need to get a compatible nvidia x driver
[16:11] <proximo> wols: still beta ?
[16:11] <wols> proximo: current version of ffox is 2.0.0.10
[16:11] <bakarat> sethk, kk :P
[16:11] <riotkittie> wols: you're cordially invited to take your award and cram it
[16:11] <proximo> wols: ok, thanks :)
[16:11] <kelsin> Jensss: then "sudo <editor> <file>" so probably "sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status" or if you're actually at the console with no xsession "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/status"
[16:12] <riotkittie> Jensss: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.old && sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:12] <BSG75> jrib: do I just type /pastebin to access pastebin?
[16:12] <Roman123> Hi! I'm trying to install XEN following  http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-7.10-server-install-xen-from-ubuntu-repositories-p2 But in the debootstrap step the command xen-create-image dies. Any Xen expert here who knows this problem?
[16:12] <jrib> !pastebin | BSG75
[16:12] <ubotu> BSG75: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:13] <BSG75> !pastebin |BSG75
[16:13] <SuicideSalmon> !!
[16:13] <BSG75> grrr
[16:13] <BSG75> sec
[16:13] <SuicideSalmon> last night I was trying to use this computer as a sort of jukebox, and after about 5 minutes we kept getting "The contents of this folder cannot be displayed" on nearly all the music folders. I tried "cp * /home/james/Desktop/new/" but got the same issue, ls -all worked fine in the directories, any idea what the issue was? I had to reboot into windows in the end
[16:13] <kelsin> Roman123: you should pastebin the output, or tell us what the error was when it died
[16:14] <qwaz> SuicideSalmon: you didn't have permission
[16:14] <Roman123> it is a kernel oops :(
[16:14] <qwaz> SuicideSalmon: sudo
[16:14] <sethk> SuicideSalmon, most likely you need to use the uid= and gid= options when mounting the windows partition
[16:14] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: what file ssytem?
[16:14] <riotkittie> system*
[16:14] <Roman123> there is a posting at ubuntuforums but without a replay :(
[16:14] <SuicideSalmon> qwaz, I checked the permission, and it was drwxr-xr-x
[16:14] <riotkittie> question.  if it was a permissions prob, would it kick in after he'd accessed files for X amount of time
[16:15] <SuicideSalmon> so I should be able to open the folder, no matter what access I had, right?
[16:15] <qwaz> riotkittie: nope, you're right
[16:15] <jrib> IanLiu: why are you solving for z, and not x?
[16:15] <kelsin> Roman123: well then link to it, otherwise it will be tough to get help since you don't mention the actual error in your question
[16:15] <BSG75> jrib: done
[16:15] <IanLiu> jrib: well... does this matters?
[16:15] <SuicideSalmon> the filesystem was ntfs, but I tried copying it onto the desktop, and got the same issue (even though ls showed the files to be there)
[16:15] <sank> munnu
[16:15] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: are these files on a FAT32 partiton, by any chance?
[16:15] <riotkittie> oh nevermind
[16:16] <jrib> IanLiu: yeah, you need to tell it what the variable is.
[16:16] <android> hi
[16:16] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: what size is the partition? i'm having a similar issue, which is really grating when trying to make a playlist :P
[16:16] <jrib> BSG75: url?
[16:16] <IanLiu> jrib: I told him... solve(z**4+1=0, z)
[16:16] <Jensss> riotkittie: battery was empty, can you say it again plz how to open that system file?
[16:16] <android> do you know why zsnes is in multiverse in ubuntu but in main in debian?
[16:17] <qwaz> Anyone want to give sound a shot?  I can only get sound from my front left speaker.
[16:17] <android> I think this is an error
[16:17] <Znuff> qwaz, check your cables
[16:17] <BSG75> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47548/
[16:17] <android> zsnes is a free software
[16:17] <SuicideSalmon> riotkittie, 250gig, I'm looking at getting an external and moving some of that off so I can shrink it, but that's it for now
[16:17] <jrib> IanLiu: well it probably only solves for real solutions, not imaginary ones
[16:17] <steven_> hi, is there a simple solutionto take an avi and burn it in dvd compaitlbe format ?
[16:17] <riotkittie> Jensss: sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/status     ... you may want to back it up first
[16:17] <IanLiu> jrib: thats sad...
[16:17] <Jensss> riotkittie: thx
[16:18] <qwaz> Znuff: cables are nestled, all snug in their beds
[16:18] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: doh. i was hoping yours was smaller than mine. i'm trying to pinpoint optimal size.
[16:18]  * qwaz has a dirty mind
[16:18] <jrib> IanLiu: try maxima maybe?  I had never used axiom
[16:18] <Roman123> kelsin: one moment. I'm trying to find the logfile entries
[16:18] <riotkittie> although i'll probably just suck it up and format that partition  linux friendly
[16:18] <android> do you know why zsnes is in multiverse in ubuntu but in main in debian?
[16:18] <IanLiu> jrib: maybe I must tell him I want to work on complex space?
[16:18] <jrib> IanLiu: possibly
[16:18] <IanLiu> jrib: hmm, I will see maxima
[16:18] <SuicideSalmon> riotkittie, you any idea what the issue was? it didn't happen at first, just after about 5-10 minutes
[16:18] <wols> Jensss: not just "might want to backup" but really realyl do a double backup. if you hose that file a complete reinstall is vrey likely
[16:19] <Jensss> wols: i know ;-)
[16:19] <wols> Jensss: what did you do in the first place to corrupt it?
[16:20] <BSG75> I think I should've used reiserfs instead of ext3
[16:20] <Jensss> euhm.. for search there is a command at the bottom that says: ^W, how do i have to type that?
[16:20] <SuicideSalmon> Jensss, CTRL+W
[16:20] <desertc> Does anyone use a cellular modem in Ubuntu?  I do not have one myself, but a friend was interested in using Ubuntu and wanted to know if his cellular modem on his laptop would work.
[16:20] <IanLiu> jrib: any tips on using maxima? =p
[16:21] <ferronica> anyone here using APC UPS with ubuntu 7.10 gnome ?
[16:21] <Jensss> wols: ndas-admin, difficult to explain, but i had found something to fix it
[16:21] <astro76> android, dunno, it's gpl, it should be in universe
[16:21] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: nope, no idea. i havent really bothered delving into it and seeeing if there's a real solution.
[16:21] <jrib> IanLiu: syntax for solve is the same, but you need to end with a ';'
[16:21] <bakarat> sethk, would "automated system recovery" work? (i put the image onto the disk, but it won't boot)
[16:21] <android> astro76, yes but it's in main in debian
[16:21] <IanLiu> thanks
[16:21] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: i actually brought it up in here yesterday, and the best advice i got was to change the filesystem.  :|
[16:22] <astro76> android, right because it's gpl and free, thus it should be universe, not multiverse
[16:22] <android> astro76, so why?
[16:22] <astro76> android, dunno
[16:22] <IanLiu> worked =)
[16:22] <sethk> bakarat, I'm not sure.  It can't hurt, since it's not working anyweay.
[16:22] <wols> bakarat: ##wndows
[16:22] <wols> ##windows
[16:22] <jargon> Hi, anyone know of an gtk based pppoe gui?
[16:22] <nbkr> I set up Ldap Authentification on my local network and activated "cached credentials" like described on the howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PamCcredsHowto. It's working, but the login without the LDAP Server is terribly slow (takes about 3 - 5 minutes to login). Is this normal or is there a workaround?
[16:22] <SuicideSalmon> riotkittie, that's not really an option for a Windows partition. Once I get the external hard drive, do you think  I should format it with ext3 and then copy it through linux from the mounted partition? Or could I end up with the same issues
[16:22] <qaldune> desertc: not yet http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=396
[16:23] <BSG75> jrib: you find anything I should change in my fstab?
[16:23] <qwaz> Anyone want to give sound a shot?  I can only get sound from my front left speaker.
[16:23] <jrib> BSG75: the last line corresponds to the culprit?
[16:23] <desertc> qaldune: you misunderstand... not on a cell phone.  it's those modems you can get onto the internet through a cellular phone service
[16:24] <Roman123> kelsin: It starts with BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00100100
[16:24] <android> astro76, multiverse is "non-free software". zsnes is a free software. so zsnes have to be in universe
[16:24] <wols> desertc: those are cellphones usually
[16:24] <desertc> qaldune: they are very popular -- but largely proprietary
[16:24] <super61> hello i just installed sdlmame and im getting bug reports can anyone help me?
[16:24] <SuicideSalmon> does anyone else have issues with firefox freezing after the ubuntu upgrade?
[16:24] <astro76> android, yes that's exactly what I said
[16:24] <ktosia> what is an appl to learn hwo to typ on keyboard faster?
[16:24] <wols> desertc: "linux <your cellphone>" in google
[16:24] <desertc> wols qaldune: this is a PCMCIA card
[16:24] <kelsin> Roman123: I would pastebin the whole output, it will definitly help debugging
[16:24] <ktosia> any appl to train keyboard?
[16:25] <riotkittie> SuicideSalmon: i'm not sure. FWIW, my first external was a USB drive and i did not have this issue, but Ubuntu was installed on my internal HD, and I was runnning 6.06.
[16:25] <astro76> android, and the answer is... it's in universe, not multiverse http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/otherosfs/zsnes
[16:25] <wols> !ask | super61
[16:25] <ubotu> super61: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:25] <jrib> ktosia: gtypist is one but I am sure there are more
[16:25] <super61> wols: i did
[16:25] <Roman123> kelsin: done
[16:25] <android> astro76,  pool/multiverse/z/zsnes/zsnes_1.420-2.1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[16:25] <astro76> android, so it's already been fixed in gutsy ;)
[16:25] <ajopaul> there was no such delay with feisty but with gutsy login takes soo loong..
[16:25] <kelsin> Roman123: url?
[16:25] <riotkittie> now i'm using an eSATA external that houses my 7.10 install, and my media partition. <shrug>
[16:25] <astro76> android, yeah feisty and earlier apparently
[16:25] <qkr> how do I enable flash player on firefox? it says it's installed but it doesn't work for some reason
[16:25] <qaldune> desertc: 3g pcmcia card?
[16:26] <astro76> android, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=zsnes
[16:26] <Roman123> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47549/
[16:26] <matttis> how do I find out the name of an program of which I know the shell command
[16:26] <Roman123> kelsin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47549/
[16:26] <matttis> !name
[16:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[16:26] <super61> astro76: i installed sdlmame and im getting bur reports any idea why?
[16:26] <wols> super61: either you ask your real question and state your real problem or no one will help you (or can for that matter)
[16:26] <jrib> qkr: the installer has not been updated for the recent flash udate.  You need to grab the tar.gz from adobe and install the .so to your ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[16:26] <qkr> jrib thanks
[16:26] <kelsin> Roman123: what error did the xen-create-disk-image (or whatever it is) display?
[16:27] <super61> wols: i got a bug report in sdlmame and thats my problem
[16:27] <jrib> matttis: dpkg -S $(which COMAAND_HERE)     tells you the package name
[16:27] <Roman123> kelsin: none
[16:27] <astro76> super61, not sure what you mean, do you mean an error? pastebin it and we can look
[16:27] <astro76> !paste | super61
[16:27] <ubotu> super61: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:27] <Roman123> the system crashes
[16:27] <matttis> jrib: thanks
[16:27] <android> astro76, ok thank you
[16:27] <radioaktivstorm> why do my javascript files spontaneously change mime type to text/x-matlab when i click to open them?
[16:27] <super61> astro76: ok hold on
[16:27] <kelsin> Roman123: what command did you run? (with arguments etc)
[16:27] <wols> super61: google "smart questions": you need that
[16:27] <Roman123> xen-create-image --hostname=starmaclinux1.sinh.us --size=20Gb --swap=256Mb --ip=192.168.1.21 --netmask=255.255.255.0 --gateway=192.168.1.1 --force --dir=/home/xen --memory=256Mb --arch=i386 --kernel=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-xen --initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-xen --debootstrap --dist=etch --passwd
[16:27] <super61> wols: sure i do
[16:28] <astro76> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[16:28] <astro76> ;)
[16:28] <wols> super61: it's good to agree on something
[16:28] <super61> astro76: im not retareded lol
[16:28] <wols> radioaktivstorm: cause mybe that's what is in your mime.types
[16:29] <astro76> super61, ;) it's for everyone
[16:29] <super61> astro76: lol ok
[16:29] <rico> anyone know where I can find a .deb of the latest stable version of Pidgin?
[16:29] <super61> oo astro76 im using a frontend to help get sdlmame running ok?
[16:30] <desertc> wols qaldune: here is a HOWTO on the T-Mobile card.  this guy has an AT&T version.  At least I can let him know about it, but I know he is not going to go through this hassle.  http://erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html
[16:30] <astro76> super61, ok
[16:30] <radioaktivstorm> wols: ok ill have a look in there
[16:30] <liro> ok
[16:30] <liro> maleardi
[16:30] <liro> imas msn
[16:30] <Roman123> kelsin: any ideas?
[16:30] <liro> ok
[16:30] <liro> imas msn
[16:30] <liro> ok kaiz
[16:30] <qwaz> Anyone want to give sound a shot?  I can only get sound from my front left speaker.
[16:30] <cod1> astro76: here  Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:30] <cod1>   File "/home/balki/projects/wahcade/debian/wahcade/usr/share/games/wahcade/gst_media.py", line 70, in on_message
[16:30] <cod1>     self.on_eos()
[16:30] <cod1>   File "/home/balki/projects/wahcade/debian/wahcade/usr/share/games/wahcade/gst_media.py", line 232, in on_eos
[16:30] <cod1>     self.next_track()
[16:30] <cod1>   File "/home/balki/projects/wahcade/debian/wahcade/usr/share/games/wahcade/gst_media.py", line 263, in next_track
[16:30] <kelsin> Roman123: just goes to ask a side question, any reason you're install etch instead of gutsy?, but besides that I would try making sure the /home/xen dir is there, other then that I have no idea, it's wierd that you get a kernel panic. You can always install without the xen create image, there are tuts online that walk you through creating the xen config by hand
[16:30] <cod1>     self.player.set_location('file://%s' % self.tracks[self.current_track])
[16:30] <cod1> IndexError: list index out of range
[16:30] <astro76> !paste | cod1
[16:30] <ubotu> cod1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:30] <super61> there astor76
[16:30] <qaldune> desertc does your friend understand spanish? http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/31124
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> rico: always better to stay in the repos ...
[16:31] <desertc> qwaz: maybe your front left speaker is where the best quality sound comes from!  ;)
[16:31] <super61> astro76: yea.... im not in the irc hcannel enough to install it
[16:31] <Roman123> kelsin: I want a simple debian based host. But I can try gutsy
[16:31] <Roman123> thanks
[16:31] <Roman123> I'll try later
[16:31] <Roman123> brb
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste | cod1
[16:31] <ubotu> cod1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:31] <astro76> super61, it's a web site, and you must use it to paste more than 2 lines or you will be booted
[16:31] <qwaz> desertc: Maybe, but I'd like the other 5 to work, too
[16:31] <kelsin> Roman123: yeah I would drop xen-create-image and do it by hand, debootstrap is a very simple command, let me see if I can find the guide I used
[16:32] <super61> astro76: my codc name didnt get booted
[16:32] <astro76> super61, as for the error, dunno, never used wahcade and there's not enough info to figure out what's going on
[16:32] <desertc> qaldune: well, my question was whether the device was going to work right off the bat, and I see the answer is no, so I am all set.  I don't know him well enough to do free technical support to get this working for him.
[16:32] <super61> astro76: ok well with sdlmame it cant find my roms know why?
[16:32] <astro76> super61, lol it will next time
[16:32] <desertc> spanish or no spanish.  ;)  thanks for the link though
[16:32] <Ongaku> is there a program for ubuntu that reads .daa files? or can i just install poweriso in wine and mount it that way
[16:32] <astro76> super61, check the config file for the rompath
[16:32] <super61> astro76: lol ok
[16:32] <euphorial> My xwindows file browser is constantly taking up the full screen when I open it, and I cannot figure out how to make it fit to the screen again. Anyone have a quick fix? (I'm afraid I may have hit CTRL+(something).
[16:32] <super61> ok
[16:33] <desertc> qwaz: Have you checked your channel levels in ALSAMIXER yet??
[16:33] <reppypepp2> hi how do i edit a config file ? is it easier to find a command line text editor and use sudo, or to use a gui text editor but somehow get superuser access first?
[16:33] <astro76> reppypepp2, if you want gui, gksudo gedit file
[16:33] <ChrisC_> Ok simple question. How do I format a new hard disk that I have added as slave?
[16:33] <euphorial> reppypepp2, I'd use sudo nano filename
[16:33] <Niteye> i need help with cryptsetup if anyone has some expert knowledge about filesystems please msg me th
[16:33] <reppypepp2> ok
[16:33] <reppypepp2> thanks
[16:33] <ChrisC_> It is completely raw.
[16:34] <Blissex> ChrisC_: no way.
[16:34] <ChrisC_> No partitions nothing.
[16:34] <desertc> euphorial: try Alt-Space, R to resize
[16:34] <euphorial> desertc, ok thanks, one sec...
[16:34] <bazhang> ChrisC_: gui or cli?
[16:34] <Blissex> ChrisC_: then partition it. If you really want to prep it a bit first just write all zeroes to all of it.
[16:34] <ChrisC_> Blissex: no way?
[16:34] <super61> astro76: i cant get the screen for epsxe bigger then 320x320 know why?
[16:34] <qwaz> desertc: Looking at them now, all the right ones seem to be turned up
[16:34] <astro76> super61, never used it
[16:34] <Ongaku> is there a program that converts different image formats to .iso?
[16:35] <nixNewb> i just changed my password and I think I mistyped something or something, because I can't type it in again
[16:35] <romantik> hello
[16:35] <brobostigon> hi, good afternoon
[16:35] <super61> astro76: ok
[16:35] <ChrisC_> Blissex: GUI
[16:35] <desertc> qwaz: turn them all up
[16:35] <bazhang> ChrisC_: gparted
[16:35] <ChrisC_> Blissex: Or teminal
[16:35] <ChrisC_> terminal
[16:35] <ChrisC_> Blissex: Not Fdisk?
[16:35] <Blissex> Ongaku: like JPEG to ISO?
[16:35] <desertc> nixNewb: run passwd with sudo and it will not ask you to confirm the existing password
[16:36] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  what format specificially?
[16:36] <desertc> !hi | brobostigon
[16:36] <ubotu> brobostigon: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[16:36] <qkr> how do I remove when I minimize a window? the kind of black frame thing that goes smaller, I just want instant minimize?
[16:36] <bazhang> ChrisC_: cfdisk is the ncurses version
[16:36] <Blissex> ChrisC_: gparted (already suggested) and various distro specific GUI helpers exist.
[16:36] <nixNewb> desertc: i can't log in
[16:36] <Ongaku> dr_willis: i have a .daa file...which is PowerISO format...wanna convert it to .iso
[16:36] <ChrisC_> Blissex: Ok thanks I have a look around.
[16:36] <Blissex> ChrisC_: for terminal use, there are parted, cfdisk, fdisk, sfdisk in order of increasing geekyness
[16:36] <romantik> i need to format my sansa e260 before i can upgrade the firmware... it's easy on Windows usginthe drop-down menu Format option, but under Ubuntu 7.10 i don't have an idea how to format a drive... how exactly is formatting done in Ubuntu?
[16:36] <Dr_willis> qkr,  I recall there being some setting you could tweak with the gconf editor under gnome to disable the extra eye candy. But Thats about all i rember.
[16:37] <desertc> nixNewb: do it from single user mode, choose it as an option when it boots
[16:37] <bazhang> Ongaku: that is a propietary format, not sure that you can in linux
[16:37] <Ongaku> blissex: i mean .daa to .iso or .mdr to .iso
[16:37] <qkr> how do I run gconf?
[16:37] <super61> astro76: i tryed ever way and it stall cant find the path
[16:37] <Ongaku> bazhang: ah crap...buncha newbs that made that crap then
[16:37] <nixNewb> by logging in as "linux single"?
[16:37] <RCOMALTA> i fix up samba to copy file from windows to linux it take 30 file 443 kb
[16:37] <RCOMALTA> is this normal
[16:37] <romantik> qkr, with the command gconf-editor
[16:37] <qwaz> desertc: they're all turned up, still no change
[16:37] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  i would say do some googling on that. IF theres a windows tool that can do it. You may want to try it with wine, Ive never see/used a .daa befor.  If its a game dvd. you may lose whatever extra 'info' is in the .daa if you convert it.
[16:37] <Blissex> Ongaku: some of those formats are just ISO, for some there are converters (e.g. Nero to ISO).
[16:37] <qkr> thanks
[16:37] <romantik> no problem
[16:38] <bazhang> Ongaku: I try to avoid those myself
[16:38] <nixNewb> desrtc: by logging in as "linux single," I tried that and it still asks for a password
[16:38] <desertc> qwaz: Anything muted?  Did you see any other devices by pressing tab ?
[16:38] <Ongaku> bazhang: yeah...i like PowerISO though..figured it would be simple as installing poweriso in wine an mounting the .daa so i can install my program
[16:39] <romantik> how to format a drive in Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:39] <bazhang> Ongaku: that might work
[16:39] <qwaz> desertc: I'm using alsamixergui
[16:39] <desertc> qwaz: I know you are
[16:39] <sigma> has anyone here ever used firewall builder before?
[16:39] <super61> astro76: finally got it
[16:39] <Niteye> i need help with cryptsetup if anyone has some expert knowledge about filesystems please msg me th
[16:39] <qwaz> desertc: Nothing is muted...
[16:39] <Ongaku> bazhang: ya, that´s what i figured lol...didn´t have a problem installing diablo II or anything else in wine so ill have to try that out
[16:39] <desertc> romantik: gnome partition editor
[16:40] <euphorial> desertc, I tried ALT+Space then resize, nothing even shows up. I can't even see the Minimize, Maximize/Restore, and Exit icons at top right. :-/
[16:40] <kelsin> romantik: obviously this is very dangerous, so make sure you know what you're doing, but when you format a drive you just make a new filesystem on it, with the mkfs commands. I have NO idea whan you mean by you needing to format the sansa to install new firmware, so please make sure you know what you're doing before you blow all of the software on your mp3 player away
[16:40] <Milux> how i can control the volume on gxine or realplayer without change the PCM volume?
[16:40] <euphorial> I feel like an idiot, but there isn't any option anywhere that I can find to MAKE it full-screen, or to take it off. :x
[16:40] <desertc> qwaz: I am out of ideas
[16:40] <bazhang> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/extract-convert-mount-iso-bin-daa-nrg.html Ongaku may help
[16:40] <Ongaku> bazhang: thx mate
[16:41] <bazhang> Ongaku: no worries :}
[16:41] <romantik> desertc, what's the command to open the GNOME Partititon Editor?
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> gparted
[16:41] <desertc> euphorial: you might try running it with the -geometry command from the command line
[16:41] <Ongaku> bazhang: oh ya mate this will work wondefully :D haha thanks alot
[16:41] <mad> Are there any command line cd writing tools that come with ubuntu?
[16:41] <bazhang> Ongaku: great news :}
[16:42] <david_J> mad cdrecord
[16:42] <nbkr> mad, wodim
[16:42] <euphorial> desertc, how would one open the gui file browser by command line? (never done it)
[16:42] <bazhang> mkisofs?
[16:42] <david_J> mad: and growisofs
[16:42] <david_J> mad: mkisofs
[16:42] <desertc> euphorial: just run the command
[16:42] <kelsin> euphorial: nautilus --no-desktop (for the default gnome file browser)
[16:43] <mad> david_J: thanks for the prog names
[16:43] <david_J> mad: np
[16:43] <mad> nbkr: looks like wodim is the cd writing program i have
[16:43] <david_J> mad: if you can install k3b makes it easier
[16:43] <Eicca> How can I turn off the thing that opens the same windows I had left open while I shut down the computer at bootup?
[16:43] <david_J> nbkr: same diff
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> euphorial: check into thunar   ....
[16:44] <riotkittie> Eicca: check sessions... System > preferences
[16:44] <mad> david_J: dont have a net connection to the comp right now, and i only need to burn one disk
[16:44] <Blissex> !nvidia
[16:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:44] <david_J> nbkr: I think it is a symlink to cdrecord
[16:44] <euphorial> Jack_Sparrow, is thunar another browser?
[16:44] <david_J> mad man cdrecord
[16:44] <david_J> mad: pretty simple
[16:45] <mad> david_J: it didnt come with my default install and the gui isnt working
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> euphorial: file manager...  like thunar
[16:45] <david_J> mad: cool
[16:45] <euphorial> kelsin, desertc, Jack_Sparrow, thanks.
[16:45] <euphorial> :>
[16:46] <wols> david_J: cdrecord is not in debian/ubuntu anymore. wodim is a fork
[16:46] <mad> would someone mind posting the output of "wodim --help" to a pastebin?
[16:46] <wols> debian got into a spat with the cdrecord developer and forked it due to GPL reasons
[16:46] <david_J> wols: same diff
[16:46] <Niteye> i need help with cryptsetup if anyone has some expert knowledge about filesystems please msg me th
[16:46] <ZAKhan> where do i find support for samba?
[16:46] <david_J> wols: genisofs is mkisifs
[16:47] <wols> wodim is not cdrecord at all
[16:47] <david_J> wols: sorry you are right so sue me
[16:47] <billenium> when i do ping (website) in my terminal, how do i stop it
[16:47] <billenium> ?
[16:48] <david_J> wols: I have another machine that runs gentoo and
[16:48] <euphorial> ok, got Nautilus working beautifully now. Thanks all who helped.
[16:48] <bazhang> control c
[16:48] <euphorial> but will still check out thunar.
[16:48] <euphorial> Regards!
[16:48] <ibanez> anyway to tell if my ati card is installed correctly ?
[16:48] <david_J> wols: it installs wodim but I guess it keeps the cdrecord man page
[16:49] <david_J> wols: I can type cdrecord or wodim and it still works
[16:49] <qwaz> Anyone want to give sound a shot?  I can only get sound from my front left speaker.
[16:49] <cursor101> hey any chance of some help with my wirless networking , wont work after upgrade to .10
[16:49] <david_J> cursor101: what card?
[16:49] <cursor101> wusb54g
[16:49] <B_166-ER-X> I have search everywhere : i cannot find anything. PLEASE, can someone tells me how to reset the Alsamixer settings to Default ? (i even did the 'reinstall ALSA from fresh kernel' but my settings are still there afterwards)
[16:49] <wols> david_J: the power of symlinks
[16:50] <david_J> wols: yep
[16:50] <Abu-Aadam> Hi i want to find pidgin logs
[16:50] <Abu-Aadam> Is there a way to find them from file system?>
[16:50] <IndyGunFreak> Abu-Aadam: like chatlogs
[16:50] <ikonia> Abu-Aadam: look in prefernces in pidgin to see where it is logging
[16:50] <ikonia> Abu-Aadam: assuming you have enabld logging
[16:50] <Abu-Aadam> IndyGunFreak: yes
[16:50] <qwaz> Abu-Aadam: it's off by default
[16:51] <IndyGunFreak> Abu-Aadam: if you haven't turned it on, its off.
[16:51] <cursor101> david_j: any help ? i have got ndiswrapper working but for some reason on my dhcp request i get no reply
[16:51] <Abu-Aadam> ok looks like can't retrieve that
[16:51] <david_J> cursor101: assign it a static..
[16:51] <ikonia> cursor101: 1.) can you see it making a request in the syslog 2.) can you see the server "seeing" the request
[16:51] <david_J> cursor101: I got the same thing and said screw it
[16:51] <cursor101> not sure about server side but see my side making the request
[16:52] <ikonia> cursor101: so you can see the request in the syslog
[16:52] <radioaktivstorm> ok...so it looks like i have nothign in mime.types to indicated that .js should be turned into a mime type of text/x-matlab... but when i double click on the file for editing, it changes mime types from application/javascript. any pointers?
[16:52] <cursor101> only throught the normal output of dhclient3
[16:52] <cursor101> i'll try assigning a static again
[16:52] <ikonia> cursor101: ok, I see, so the first thing to check is that your card is actually up and running
[16:52] <B_166-ER-X> !alsamixer
[16:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:53] <ikonia> cursor101: as it's possible the interface is up, but not actually working properly
[16:53] <david_J> cursor101: assign a static simple
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> radioaktivstorm: what about not double clicking and trying a diff editor..
[16:53] <david_J> B_166-ER-X: what ya need to know about alsamixer?
[16:53] <cursor101> i can scan and everything seems to be working apart from the dhcp request i get no reply
[16:53] <cursor101> well no offers
[16:53] <ikonia> cursor101: scan ?
[16:54] <B_166-ER-X> david_J how to reset settings to default
[16:54] <radioaktivstorm> Jack_Sparrow: the file will open if i select an editor and not double click, but the issue i have is that i never had matlab in the first place.
[16:54] <cursor101> iwlist scan or something like that
[16:54] <david_J> B_166-ER-X: Dont think ya can press h for the help screen
[16:54] <cursor101> basically i can see AP's in range
[16:54] <BSG75> is there a way to show progress when using e2fsck?
[16:55] <ikonia> cursor101: ok, so thats not actually connected to a network at that point, hence why I'm asking you to check if the card is actually function using the ndiswrapper driver
[16:55] <david_J> cursor101: you see a wlan0?
[16:55] <ikonia> BSG75: the boot scripts normally have a little progress bar
[16:55] <cursor101> yep
[16:55] <BSG75> ikinoa: doing from console
[16:55] <cursor101> when i iwconfig i get wlan0 and wmaster0 , not sure where wmaster0 come from
[16:55] <david_J> cursor101: and ifconfig wlan0 <ip> won't work?
[16:56] <cursor101> im just trying that now i just pulled power cable by accident on my ubuntu machine haha
[16:56] <ikonia> BSG75: -C
[16:56] <david_J> cursor101: you use wpa or wep?
[16:56] <cursor101> nope turned it off
[16:57] <BSG75> its taking forever to do a1TB drive :(
[16:57] <radioaktivstorm> Jack_Sparrow: i did, however install maxima on my computer for some graphing, etc
[16:57] <oreth|> ok
[16:57] <oreth|> damn
[16:57] <ikonia> BSG75: it will, if there is a check needed
[16:57] <SpookyE1>  How do you configure nautilus to use gnome search instead of tracker or beagle after you uninstall them? Right now, it gives an error.
[16:57] <qwaz> Anyone want to give sound a shot?  I can only get sound from my front left speaker.
[16:57] <oreth|> i removed my video card and replaced with the on board video
[16:57] <jebblue> >> its taking forever to do a1TB drive
[16:57] <oreth|> now my computer hangs at "RUNNING LOCAL BOOT SCRIPTS" what can I do?
[16:57] <jebblue> a 1 TB drive - tech is cool
[16:58] <BSG75> so go for lunch :)  got it :)
[16:58] <ActySofts> How do I import e-mails from TB into Evo? The guide from <https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/windows/C/md-emails.html> doesn't work, because when I select the "Inbox" file, the file type combobox remains greyed out. Any ideas?
[16:58] <B_166-ER-X> david_J its a start...but does not appear to tell how to reset settings. thx nyway
[16:59] <BSG75> lol my 7 year old daughter and my wife are the reason I got 2 TB total space .. neither likes to get up and put dvd we won in the dvd drive .. and I don't think my daughter knows what commercial is since we don't have tv subscription at our house
[16:59] <nixNewb> desertc: Thank you, Logging in as single worked to recover password
[16:59] <desertc> nixNewb: you bet.  good luck with the rest of your day
[17:00] <cursor101> david_j: just out of curiosity sometimes when i boot ubuntu the wirless interface doesnt load by default (deosnt appear when i ifconfig) how can i load it , atm i have to restart
[17:00] <hoho> hello, i'm trying to install sun's java runtime, synaptic says it's installed, but when i try java in the terminal it does not work
[17:00] <ikonia> hoho: what is the exact command your using
[17:00] <BSG75> cya all in  a bit ..
[17:01] <ActySofts> bump
[17:01] <oreth|> anybody?
[17:01] <ikonia> ActySofts: ?
[17:01] <hoho> java -version
[17:01] <ikonia> hoho: and what are you getting with that
[17:01] <oreth|> Computer is hanging on boot
[17:01] <ActySofts> ActySofts> How do I import e-mails from TB into Evo? The guide from <https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/windows/C/md-emails.html> doesn't work, because when I select the "Inbox" file, the file type combobox remains greyed out. Any ideas?
[17:02] <ActySofts> there
[17:02] <hoho> a list of packages (none of them is sun's java) plus bash: java: command not found
[17:02] <oreth|> it stops at : RUNNING LOCAL BOOT SCRIPTS
[17:02] <D--> Can anyone help me understand what a sed command is doing?
[17:02] <ikonia> hoho one moment
[17:02] <D--> sed -i -e '/GBK/,/^}/d' FILENAME
[17:03] <wols> hoho: dpkg -l |grep -i java
[17:03] <wols> hoho: pastebin the results
[17:04] <oreth|> i don't want to have to re-install my os now that i've gotten all my stuff installoed
[17:04] <fraterm> strange.
[17:05] <fraterm> Has anyone ever run into an issue where Nautilus won't allow file renaming keyboard input?
[17:05] <godzirra> Ok, has anyone else had any problems in gutsy where your wireless network just suddenly stops working, and you can't reboot or do anything at all?  I have to hard power the machine down then bring it back up.
[17:05] <hoho> wols: http://pastebin.com/m7a838362
[17:05] <Milux> how i can control the volume with gxine without change PCM alsa volume?
[17:05] <david_J> godzirra: no
[17:05] <wols> hoho: uninstall the gij stuff
[17:05] <ikonia> hoho: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[17:05] <desertc> fraterm: do you have file permissions to change the file?
[17:05] <oreth|> okl
[17:06] <UcayalyFish> hi everybody
[17:06] <fraterm> desertc, I do.
[17:06] <wols> ikonia: sun java6 is already installed
[17:06] <godzirra> Anyone have any ideas how to fix said problem?  i've no idea what causes it...
[17:06] <oreth|> I hard powered off my machine due to an error with my vdieo card
[17:06] <oreth|> since then, it won't boot
[17:06] <oreth|> how do I fix this?
[17:06] <david_J> godzirra: Does your wireless device show up?
[17:06] <ikonia> wols java6-bin package ?
[17:06] <fraterm> desertc, I'm starting to think it's a SCIM problem
[17:06] <ikonia> oreth|: it's probably running an fsck on your box if you've powered it off
[17:06] <godzirra> david_J: when it crashes and burns?  I'm not sure... it works fine until that point.  I can check that afterwards.  Do I check just by doing an ifconfid?
[17:06] <godzirra> ifconfig rather?
[17:07] <manad> hi
[17:07] <oreth|> ikonia
[17:07] <fraterm> desertc, Ican change things using a terminal and mv
[17:07] <oreth|> how long does that take?
[17:07] <ikonia> oreth|: depends on corruption and the file system file
[17:07] <wols> ikonia: he has 2 javas installed, the GPLed one from main and the sun one. they conflict, sorta, for him
[17:07] <ikonia> size
[17:07] <oreth|> if i push control alt delete, it will reboot
[17:07] <hoho> wols, uninstalled
[17:07] <desertc> fraterm: no idea
[17:07] <manad> how can I take a screenshot in Ubuntu? Pressing the Print screen key on my keyboard doesn't seem to copy image data to the clipboard.
[17:07] <david_J> godzirra: explain crashes like it is working and stops?
[17:07] <ikonia> wols: conflit shouldn't remove /usr/bin/java
[17:07] <desertc> fraterm: maybe check your keyboard shortcuts
[17:07] <ikonia> conflict even
[17:07] <wols> ikonia: most likely an /etc/alternatives/ entry
[17:08] <hoho> should i also uninstall this: icedtea-java7-bin ?
[17:08] <wols> ikonia: yes /usr/bin/java is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/java
[17:08] <wols> hoho: yes
[17:08] <oreth|> how do i check for FSCK?
[17:08] <wols> ls -al /etc/alternatives/java
[17:08] <ikonia> wols: yes, probably but i don't understand why /usr/bin/java wouldn't exist, I appriciate its a symlink but one of the packages should have created the link
[17:08] <godzirra> david_J: It does work, then it stops.  I get disconnected from my wireless network...  The network is listed there...  But when I try and connect it just spis.
[17:08] <B_166-ER-X> !sound
[17:08] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:08] <wols> ikonia: it is, it points to /etc/alternatives/java which in turn points to whatever
[17:09] <david_J> godzirra: Sure it aint your isp?
[17:09] <david_J> godzirra: You have cable?
[17:09] <godzirra> I'm positive.
[17:09] <godzirra> I do have cable, but all my ther PC's work
[17:09] <david_J> godzirra: check the router
[17:09] <godzirra> even my wifes wireless laptop on widnows works.
[17:09] <ikonia> wols: yes, I appriciate it's a symlink, but he didn't have /usr/bin/java, I expected one of the packages to create the /usr/bin/java symlink
[17:09] <hoho> now i have a problem, according to synaptic, icedtea-java7-bin is not installed...
[17:09] <david_J> godzirra: You use wep or wpa?
[17:10] <fraterm> bbl restarting gnome w/o acceleration effects
[17:10] <david_J> godzirra: meet me in #ugh
[17:10] <nixNewb> how can i promote another user to admin?
[17:10] <ikonia> nixNewb: put him in the adm group
[17:11] <HoNgOuRu> give me a hand
[17:11] <ActySofts> How do I import my e-mails from Thunderbird into Evolution? The import wizard doesn't seem to recognize the 'Inbox' file :(
[17:11] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: maybe if you ask a question
[17:12] <HoNgOuRu> hoho...i have /home/user/.cache folder
[17:12] <HoNgOuRu> whats that?
[17:12] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: a directory that contains cache files
[17:13] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: for things like email, file search etc
[17:13] <oreth|> ikonia: is there a way to check to see if it's doing an FSCK on boot?
[17:13] <ikonia> oreth|: it should say
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> I have inside a tracker folder that is 4gb of size
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> can I delete tracker
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> ?
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> i have no further available space
[17:13] <ikonia> HoNgOuRu: do a du -h and find the big files to see what they are
[17:13] <jhaluska> I was having trouble with compiz, so I installed xserver-xgl, now Compiz works but hibernate is broken.  Anybody know how to fix it?
[17:14] <kelsin> D--: finally got it :) it deletes all lines from any line with GBK to any line that starts with } including those lines themselves
[17:14] <nixNewb> whats wrong with this? "usermod -g chris"
[17:14] <HoNgOuRu> i have it
[17:14] <oreth|> ikonia: all i see is *Starting Anachronistic cron ana cron*  down to *Running local boot scripots (/etc/rc.local)
[17:14] <oreth|> then.. it stops
[17:14] <oreth|> it's been on this screen for about 45 minutes
[17:14] <wols> oreth|: what other S99 scripts are there
[17:14] <ikonia> oreth|: boot off the livecd and see what you have put in /etc/rc.lcal
[17:14] <ikonia> local
[17:14] <HoNgOuRu> file-meta 3.7 gb
[17:14] <oreth|> ikonia: i'm not understanindg your question
[17:14] <kelsin> nixNewb: afaik you need a user to operate on, it's "usermod -g <group> <username>"
[17:15] <ibanez> how can i tell if my fglrx driver is working properly ?
[17:15] <wols> ibanez: glxinfo
[17:15] <ikonia> oreth|: put in a livecd, boot from it, mount your file system and look what scripts are in /etc/rc.local
[17:15] <jrib> nixNewb: be careful, I bet that command does something you do not want to do
[17:15] <ibanez> well shit.
[17:15] <jhaluska> I was having trouble with compiz, so I installed xserver-xgl, now Compiz works but hibernate is broken.  Anybody know how to fix it?
[17:16] <wols> !repeat jhaluska
[17:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat jhaluska - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:16] <ActySofts> nobody know how to help me with importing emails into evolution?
[17:16] <oreth|> ikonia: i'm on it
[17:16] <wols> !repeat | jhaluska
[17:16] <ubotu> jhaluska: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:16] <pcfascist> ikonia: just one second while I find my CD
[17:16] <ibanez> Xlib: extension "ATIFGLRXDRI: missong on display ":0.0".
[17:16] <jhaluska> wols: Wasn't sure it got posted the first time, sorry
[17:16] <HoNgOuRu> can I delete .cache content????
[17:17] <qwaz> Anyone want to give sound a shot?  I can only get sound from my front left speaker.
[17:17] <pcfascist> well I guess I'll let oreth have at it
[17:17] <ibanez> damn ATI to hell !
[17:17] <suttin> Im having problems with my ati drivers and getting any visual effects to work. when i ran compiz, this is the output i got. can anyone help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47556/
[17:17] <ibanez> who is with me on that.
[17:17] <suttin> me
[17:17] <manad> I installed Ubuntu yesterday. I had a hard drive split into two NTFS partitions, one for Windows, and one for file storage. Once I finished burning the Ubuntu CD, I pressed the reset button (ie, didn't shut down cleanly), because I figured I was formatting Windows, so who cares...now that I'm trying to access my storage partition, I get this: http://i7.tinypic.com/8afjoe8.png
[17:17] <suttin> i cant get my x800 to work to save my life ibanez
[17:18] <manad> is it safe to force a mount like the screenshot says? Is it possible I could lose all my files?
[17:18] <ibanez> man i can't get my R250 to work.
[17:18] <wols> suttin: you will need xserve-xgl
[17:18] <ikonia> sorry I missed your last comment
[17:18] <wols> ibanez: you will need "ati" for this. fglrx will not work
[17:18] <ompaul> ibanez, use vesa as a starting point
[17:18] <kelsin> manad: I would follow those directions in the error
[17:18] <crdlb> ibanez: you cannot use fglrx with a r250
[17:18] <ibanez> ok, ill google vesa
[17:18] <crdlb> ibanez: just use the default 'ati' driver
[17:18] <ActySofts> manad: boot up windows, let it run checkdisk (or run it yourself), shut down nicely and try again
[17:18] <jhaluska> Does anybody have compix, hibernate and an ati card working?
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> qwaz: you keep asking the same question over and over.  What all have you already tried.. our basic link on sound? oss-alsa etc ?
[17:18] <wols> ibanez: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. use "ati"
[17:18] <ibanez> how do i do that ?
[17:18] <ActySofts> don't force because you coud make it worse
[17:18] <ibanez> thanks wols
[17:19] <ompaul> ibanez, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use vesa (wols it dies -- I know ,,,,,,)
[17:19] <manad> acty: no more Windows. I deleted its partition to make way for Ubuntu.
[17:19] <hoho> now i have all the other rutnimes uninstalled, but still don't work, by the way, java does exists on usr/bin
[17:19] <cod1> astro76: i found the problem but i need you help. it says its missing the history.bat file
[17:19] <ActySofts> manad: ouch...got no idea then
[17:19] <pcfascist> manad: aslong as you are just copying files, I believe I've never had any issues using it in readonly mode to transfer my files into ext3
[17:19] <infinitycircuit> manad, you will need to find some way to check that ntfs partition then
[17:19] <ibanez> xserver-xorg not installed
[17:20] <qwaz> Jack_Sparrow: yes...I've got everything turned up in alsamixer etc...I asked a couple times because no one responded
[17:20] <crdlb> ibanez: vesa is a generic fallback driver
[17:20] <manad> pcfascist: if there is no risk in mounting is as read-only, I can copy all the files over to my ext3 ubuntu partition, then reformat it as ext3
[17:20] <pcfascist> manad: I don't believe you should try to write to that drive though :P
[17:20] <qwaz> which is fine, people are busy, im patient
[17:20] <ibanez> k crdlb ty
[17:20] <manad> but I need to be sure I won't lose my files
[17:20] <pcfascist> manad: I can't tell you there is no risk... but I've done it
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> qwaz: what happened in the troubleshooting link from !sound
[17:20] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible..
[17:20] <KDuB> is there a beryl help chan?
[17:20] <manad> allright then...I'll try right now
[17:20] <bear> Hey, anyone know how i can fix my Delete key? I was messing around in compiz fusion and i accidenttly set window manager to delete, but i un-bound it and now my delete key dosn't work
[17:20] <wols> KDuB: beryl doesn't exist anymore
[17:21] <ikonia> KDuB: beryl is dead
[17:21] <KDuB> ?
[17:21] <pcfascist> YAY!
[17:21] <ompaul> !compiz | KDuB
[17:21] <ubotu> KDuB: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:21] <qwaz> !sound
[17:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:21] <KDuB> i have it installed lol
[17:21] <ActySofts> manad: it usually works, since if Windows can write to a severely damaged filessystem (I've done it), then I'm not sure why Ubuntu can't, however, I'm no expert ;)
[17:21] <oreth|> ...
[17:21] <qwaz> Jack_Sparrow: nothing happened...ALSA is selected but sound only comes from one speaker
[17:21] <ompaul> KDuB, well go upgrade yourself to compiz
[17:21] <KDuB> i see
[17:21] <KDuB> thank you
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> qwaz: Silly quesion.. do you dual boot ... do both speakers boot there...  is the plug all the way into the back or is this a lappy
[17:22] <suttin> wols: do i need to restart after i install xserver-xorg?
[17:22] <kelsin> ActySofts: well since ntfs is hidden behind closed doors and all ntfs work is reverse engineered, so it's VERY good now, but it's not 100%
[17:22] <ActySofts> How do I import my e-mails from Thunderbird into Evolution? The import wizard doesn't seem to recognize the 'Inbox' file :(
[17:22] <MilitantPotato> !fstab
[17:22] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[17:22] <qwaz> Jack_Sparrow: I dual boot, all 5.1 speakers work there, plugs are good, not a lap
[17:22] <wols> suttin: read more carefully. I did say nothing of xserver-xorg
[17:22] <marek|nano_> nautilus freezes sometimes
[17:22] <eses> !compiz
[17:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:23] <suttin> wols: i ment xlg, sorry
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> qwaz: ok... it may have something to do with the 5.1 detection....on your card, but not my area of knowledge
[17:24] <wols> restart x
[17:24] <KDuB> ompaul, that software is still beta... says it's not recommend because it could lock up the system once in a while.
[17:24] <ompaul> KDuB, and beryl was also
[17:25] <oreth|> what's the easiest way to mount a hard disk while in live mode?
[17:25] <qwaz> Jack_Sparrow: no worries, thanks for trying...back to googling
[17:25] <crshman> Hello All, i'm trying to mount an nfs share but i keep getting permission denied
[17:25] <crshman> here is my /etc/exports on the server: http://rafb.net/p/rkTwci84.html
[17:25] <KDuB> ompaul, i see. Thank you!
[17:25] <crshman> here is the mount command im' trying to run on the client: http://rafb.net/p/DFHl5S55.html
[17:25] <UcayalyFish> hi
[17:25] <UcayalyFish> hi
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> qwaz: google ubuntu and your card make model...  more than the description of the prob
[17:25] <hoho> i found the solution with more googling, i have done this: update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun  and now it works, thanks wols and ikonia
[17:26] <Jocke> I screwed up. I typed sudo apt-get -f install and now many programs are in english instead of swedish. can i fix it in any way?
[17:26] <ompaul> !hello | UcayalyFish
[17:26] <ubotu> UcayalyFish: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:27] <UcayalyFish> after i install, i quickly get into trouble: only safe gnome session works, normal session restarts X server with signal 11:(
[17:27] <ompaul> Jocke, have you considered asking #ubuntu-se ?
[17:27] <wols> Jocke: you've alrewy been told in dbeian. works the same in ubuntu too
[17:27] <wols> UcayalyFish: pastebin your .xsession-errors
[17:27] <UcayalyFish> and i cannot find witch app causes this
[17:27] <crshman> no nfs guru's up this early on a sunday? =P
[17:28] <wols> Jocke: dpkg-rconfigure locales   then re login
[17:28] <manad> !mp3
[17:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:28] <pcfascist> !soundcard
[17:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:28] <pcfascist> !sound card
[17:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:28] <crshman> !nfs
[17:28] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[17:28] <UcayalyFish> pasetbin?
[17:28] <ompaul> !botabuse
[17:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:28] <aladdinsane> how do i mount my second hdd as a drive rather than a folder, my drive in fstab looks like this now: /dev/sdc1     /home/alado/!HDD2        ext3     rw  0      0 Which of course makes it a folder under "alado"
[17:29] <ompaul> UcayalyFish, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[17:29] <kelsin> aladdinsane: you always mount drives under / (root) somehow, there is no mount as a "drive" like there is in windows
[17:29] <david_J> UcayalyFish: hold on I have a script called nopaste you can pipe to
[17:29] <kelsin> aladdinsane: commonly people use /mnt/<name> as a mount point or /media/<name> like gnome does automatically for usb keys
[17:29] <matttis> !services
[17:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:29] <matttis> !service
[17:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:30] <bear> whats the command in terminal to bring up your sound mixer?
[17:30] <wols> matttis: what do you want to know?
[17:30] <wols> bear: alsamixer, aumix, etc
[17:30] <david_J> UcayalyFish: http://rafb.net/p/cespzN50.html
[17:30] <MilitantPotato> Is this a good fstab setup for a NTFS internal drive in FSTAB?  UUID=**** /media/sdb6 ntfs-3g auto,user,rw,exec,sync,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[17:30] <matttis> wols: how i add autostart services
[17:30] <oreth|> ikonia: my rc.local just says "exit 0"
[17:30] <UcayalyFish> done
[17:30] <wols> matttis: does it come with a init script already?
[17:31] <david_J> UcayalyFish: save that script make it exec and all ya need to do is pipe the file you want to paste to the script
[17:31] <wols> oreth|: are there any other S99 scripts in /etc/rc2.d/?
[17:31] <wols> matttis: what exactly do you want to start?
[17:31] <matttis> wols: no, i should start with gnome or kde, adept_updater
[17:31] <aladdinsane> kelsin: ok i just mean that i would like to see it as a drive in for example Thunar, it was like that before i partitioned it then i didnt know how to get it back so i mounted it as a folder
[17:31] <kelsin> oreth|: are you on a command line system?  If you are you sure it's stalling, sure the login prompt wasn't printed up aove and you can just hit enter to get it again?
[17:31] <axjv> Does anyone know how to set up mozplugger to use the windows version of java?
[17:32] <wols> matttis: what do you want to start?
[17:32] <wols> axjv: why?
[17:32] <matttis> wols: adept_updater
[17:32] <oreth|> ikonia: quite a few
[17:32] <axjv> wols: Linux java is really slow
[17:32] <axjv> wols: On firefox, anyway
[17:32] <wols> matttis: that you'd have to start in kde itself. not as a "service", it's an X program
[17:32] <Gnu_d> Hi, how can I close some program, I mean how to use alt+f4 in vncviewer?
[17:32] <oreth|> ikonia: s99acpi-support s99laptop-mode s99rc.local s99rmnologin s99stop-readahead
[17:33] <kelsin> aladdinsane: I have no idea how thunar displays drive so you might want to make a post on their mailing list, but in unix's you always mount other drives as a folder somewhere. You can try mounting it to /media/<name> and see if thunar recognizes that as a "drive"
[17:33] <wols> axjv: and why do you think adding more layers of emulation would make it faster?
[17:33] <oreth|> also
[17:33] <oreth|> i was wrong
[17:33] <matttis> wols: before i misclicked myself it started always with kde
[17:33] <matttis> (and gnome)
[17:33] <axjv> wols: Because java doesn't load at all in firefox
[17:33] <oreth|> my s99rc.local is full of stuff
[17:33] <wols> oreth|: the acpi support looks like a big possible culprit. the laptop-mode one maybe too
[17:33] <wols> res probably OK
[17:33] <oreth|> so i should what... remove them?
[17:33] <wols> axjv: dpkg -l |grep -i java
[17:34] <wols> oreth|: yes. for stesting purposes
[17:34] <matttis> axjv: seems to be another problem, try http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[17:34] <oreth|> so just rename them>
[17:34] <oreth|> ?
[17:34] <freak124> I think that my swap partition is not used by ubuntu, how can I check if this is the case?
[17:34] <axjv> matttis: I had that page open before, it doesn't work
[17:34] <wols> axjv: whhat does the dpkg line say?
[17:35] <axjv> wols: Wait, getting on pastebin
[17:35] <oreth|> i can't remove them
[17:35] <oreth|> it's read only :P
[17:35] <axjv> wols: http://pastebin.com/m275929a8
[17:35] <CarlFK> freak124: swapon -v
[17:35] <CarlFK> i think...
[17:35] <wols> oreth|: sudo is something wonderful
[17:35] <CarlFK> freak124: swapon -s
[17:35] <oreth|> even in live cd mode?
[17:35] <aladdinsane> kelsin: ok i'll try that out, i actually think that is the solution, i remember seeing it somewhere else before. Thunar was just an example, its the same in all applications. thnx
[17:36] <freak124> thx CarlFK
[17:36] <UcayalyFish> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47558/
[17:36] <wols> axjv: you really installed all java packages there are
[17:36] <kelsin> aladdinsane: (obviously try /mnt/<name> is /media doesn't work)
[17:36] <axjv> wols: Yeah
[17:36] <wols> axjv: uninstall one of the suns and uninstall the gcj stuff too
[17:36] <axjv> wols: I heard that the 5 was faster
[17:37] <wols> axjv: they probably conflict with each other
[17:37] <axjv> wols: Alright, I'll try that
[17:37] <wols> axjv: and check where the NS plugin for java is (also check about:plugins)
[17:37] <axjv> wols: I tried using the update-alternatives thing
[17:38] <wols> plugin is plugin, not "java"
[17:39] <heatmzzr> Does it make sense that my laptop battery would last a lot longer running Ubuntu?
[17:39] <ibanez> aha, wols: anyway i can make a new xorg.conf cause i totally messed mine up
[17:39] <oreth|> ok
[17:39] <wols> ibanez: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:39] <oreth|> sudo rm s99acpi-support does not work
[17:39] <wols> oreth|: what does it say?
[17:39] <ibanez> thanks
[17:40] <oreth|> i spelled it wrong :P
[17:40] <wols> ibanez: and install mesa-glx
[17:40] <junetrinidad> hi, i have an optical mouse with ps/2 plug, but it does not work, i have gutsy currently installed
[17:41] <oreth|> wols: removed those files
[17:41] <wols> oreth|: reboot
[17:41] <oreth|> it's still hanging on the *RUNNING LOCAL BOOT SCRIPTS
[17:41] <oreth|> i did
[17:41] <wols> you can recreate them with ln  from /etc/init.d/ btw if needed
[17:42] <oreth|> it's not going anywhere
[17:42] <wols> oreth|: remove all of them except the rmnologin one
[17:42] <todd_> any qemu guru's in here, I want to boot off of my dual boot winxp???
[17:42] <wols> that one must stay or you can't login
[17:42] <oreth|> all the files in the direcotry... or all the S99?
[17:42] <axjv> wols: Alright, I removed everything (including gcjwebplugin)
[17:42] <perlsyntax> is there a dell ubuntu guide?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> todd_,  you want qemu to boot the existing xp hard drive-install ?
[17:42] <todd_> DrWills: yes
[17:43] <perlsyntax> ?
[17:43] <wols> axjv: install ONE sun plugin only. btw: purging would be nice too
[17:43] <axjv> wols: Should I get back gcjwebplugin?
[17:43] <wols> axjv: no
[17:43] <ActySofts> can anyone help me with importing e-mails from TB into Evolution Mail?
[17:43] <oreth|> wols: i can cntrol alt delete.... and it says STOPPIONG GNOME DISPLAY MANAGER
[17:43] <axjv> wols: Well, firefox isn't loading java anymore
[17:43] <oreth|> then goes thro9ugh the shutdown process
[17:43] <axjv> wols: It isn't even detecting it
[17:43] <perlsyntax> i found a del ubuntu guide but i can rem where i found it.
[17:44] <perlsyntax> Can anyone help me?
[17:44] <david_J> axjv: How did you install java?
[17:44] <axjv> wols: Java based apps like azureus still work, though
[17:44] <axjv> david_J: I have java 5 installed
[17:44] <wols> axjv: when you haven't isntalled java, no miracle...
[17:44] <axjv> wols: I
[17:44] <perlsyntax> hello?
[17:44] <axjv> wols: I've already selected java5
[17:44] <david_J> axjv: so you didn't use apt?
[17:44] <wols> axjv: java --version
[17:45] <Dr_willis> iswent it -version ?
[17:45] <axjv> wols: Could not create...
[17:45] <macaholic> I am having serious problems with apt, guys.  I cannot install or remove anything.
[17:45] <perlsyntax> Can anyone hear me or am i talking to the wall?
[17:45] <axjv> wols: What should I apt-get
[17:45] <wols> axjv: java -version then
[17:45] <Dr_willis> its java -version  NOT --version... for some perverted reason. :)
[17:45] <ActySofts> do you run it with sudo?
[17:45] <Dr_willis> i never have understood that stuff..
[17:45] <david_J> axjv: meet me in #ugh
[17:45] <wols> macaholic: pastebin the full apt-get command output you get
[17:45] <ActySofts> orethl: this isn't windows, you know
[17:46] <Dr_willis> I thought --LONGCOMMANDOPTION was some sort of standard.
[17:46] <axjv> wols: http://pastebin.com/m74d021ef
[17:46] <macaholic> wols: everything is fine, until:
[17:46] <wols> !patience | Perlboy
[17:46] <macaholic> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam-runtime
[17:46] <ubotu> Perlboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:46] <kelsin> Dr_willis: it is if you use gnu tools, and follow their standard, sun doesn't :)
[17:46] <wols> oh he'S gone
[17:46] <kelsin> Dr_willis: but then even gnu screen uses -ls :)
[17:46] <Dr_willis> kelsin,  i guess their programers are too busy to do it..
[17:46] <wols> macaholic: do what I asked you to do or don't talk to me please
[17:46] <Dr_willis> kelsin,  as does X -version, and a few others
[17:47] <wols> Dr_willis: X is not gnu
[17:47] <macaholic> wols: you don't need a pastebin for one line.
[17:47] <Dr_willis> of course one wonders why the apps cant just do it both ways.
[17:47] <oreth|> BLAREG
[17:47] <UcayalyFish> well, traffic here is real heavy:-D nothing for me?
[17:47] <oreth|> fuck it
[17:47] <Dr_willis>  i like it when ya do --help and an appsays help not found use -help :)
[17:47] <ikonia> oreth|: that langauge is uncalled for
[17:47] <oreth|> i'm just gonna re-install
[17:47] <wols> macaholic: I told you not to talk to me until you can do what I asked. apt will spit out more than one line. now go away
[17:47] <oreth|> ikonia: my bad
[17:48] <axjv> wols: So, are there any things I should apt-get for java to work in firefox? I think I already have java installed
[17:48] <macaholic> Wols: calm down.  Do you need to see all the successful lines?
[17:48] <macaholic> !ops | wols
[17:48] <ubotu> wols: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[17:48] <wols> axjv: I asked you something
[17:48] <ompaul> macaholic,
[17:48] <ompaul> dont
[17:48] <ompaul> do taht
[17:48] <axjv> wols: http://pastebin.com/m74d021ef
[17:48] <axjv> wols: I did the -version thing
[17:49] <wols> axjv: then all you should need is the java plugin package
[17:49] <wols> and restart ffox of course
[17:49] <ActySofts> wols: let's start, do you run apt with sudo?
[17:49] <axjv> wols: Which is that? I was using gcjwebplugin before
[17:49] <wols> ActySofts: no, but don't tell #ubuntu :)
[17:50] <Nirevus> sethk, you around?
[17:50] <wols> axjv: sun-javaX-plugin
[17:50] <sethk> Nirevus, yes
[17:50] <sethk> Nirevus, vaguely
[17:50] <wols> apt-cache search sun-java |grep plugin showul show it
[17:50] <axjv> wols: Could not find package.
[17:50] <Nirevus> sethk, how vague is vaguely, enough time to drop into a temporary channel?
[17:51] <ActySofts> wols: apt needs more privilegies that your user has, so you need to use sudo with it
[17:51] <heatmzzr> I gotta know, why wont blogtv.com load video in Ubuntu? Downloaded the two extra packages and still no luck.
[17:51] <bear> whats the compiz support channel?
[17:51] <wols> axjv: sun-java5-plugin
[17:51] <wols> ActySofts: did I ask _anything_? I don't think so
[17:51] <kelsin> !compiz | bear
[17:51] <ubotu> bear: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:51] <ActySofts> so, after about half an hour, still nobody knows how to import e-mails from TB into Evolution, strange O.o
[17:51] <sethk> Nirevus, sure, use #temp10
[17:52] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible..
[17:52] <todd_> How do I make a bootable image of my floppy drive for qemu?
[17:52] <wols> ActySofts: have you tried google? or a evuolution/gnome channel?
[17:52] <david_J> todd_: dd
[17:52] <oreth|> wols: i've removed all the S99 scripts from rc2.d
[17:52] <oreth|> should i remove them from all rc(x).d's?
[17:53] <kelsin> oreth|: by default ubuntu boots into run level 2, so the others aren't touched
[17:53] <wols> oreth|: did you remove the S99rmnologin too?
[17:53] <ActySofts> wols: I tried #gnome, and I get the same level of help from there as here, but there it's complete silence
[17:53] <david_J> todd_: I forget what a device for a floppy is but dd if=floppy device if=floppy.img
[17:53] <wols> ActySofts: http://www.debianadmin.com/import-thunderbird-email-into-evolution.html after one google request as the third hit
[17:53] <oreth|> wols no i didn;t
[17:53] <hit> hi, can anyone tell me why could my locales be messed up? (my default language is estonian, but login screen and some other things are still in english)
[17:54] <wols> oreth|: good. just checking. how far does it boot?
[17:54] <ActySofts> wols: well I used the guide from the wiki but it didn't work, so I came here, I'll see that link
[17:54] <oreth|> i don't know yet
[17:54] <wols> oreth|: only one way to find out :)
[17:54] <oreth|> ok
[17:54] <wols> oreth|: also check kernel logs and syslog
[17:54] <oreth|> rebooting
[17:54] <oreth|> how? :P
[17:54] <magnetron> hit: did you install full language support? system > administration > language support
[17:55] <hit> magnetron, yes
[17:55] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible..
[17:55] <todd_> I am trying  "dd if=/media/disk/ of=win95floppy.iso" and get a 0 length file
[17:55] <kritzstapf> is there a manual on how to connect my mobile phone to my computer via bluetooth to share images etc.?
[17:55] <kritzstapf> !bluetooth
[17:55] <cursor101> right im buying a new wireless adapter specififically for my ubuntu machine , i want something that will work out of the box just plug in and im away . Which make or specific adapter do you suggest?
[17:55] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[17:55] <wols> todd_: what are you trying to do?
[17:55] <magnetron> hit: at the login screen, you can choose what language should be used during the login session. try that
[17:56] <wols> todd_: you need to dd the device file, not the mountpoint
[17:56] <todd_> wols: create a bootable image of my floppy for qemu
[17:56] <Gekone> Buonasera a tutti.
[17:56] <CarlFK> todd_: dd if=/dev/something (the dev, not the mount point)
[17:56] <TigranG> Hey
[17:56] <wols> todd_: dd if=/dev/fd0...
[17:56] <oreth|> wols: now it's hanging at *Enabling additions executable binary formats"
[17:56] <hit> magnetron, i think you didn't get the point. i have estonian in most places but there are also things in english at same time
[17:56] <axjv> wols: What should I do, the package you told me to install wasn't found
[17:57] <TigranG> My bluetooth mouse was working fine for a long time, and today it decides not to work, when I do hcitool dev it doesn't even show my usb bluetooth adapter anymore. How can I fix this?
[17:57] <todd_> wols: dd if=/dev/fd0/ of=win95floppy.iso
[17:57] <todd_> dd: opening `/dev/fd0/': Not a directory
[17:57] <mirak> hi
[17:57] <oreth|> i think my install is fubard
[17:57] <oreth|> just gonna re-install
[17:57] <magnetron> hit: also, not all apps are translated
[17:57] <kelsin> todd_: wolds did not have the last / on /dev/fd0
[17:57] <oreth|> which isnt'a b igdeal
[17:57] <hit> magnetron, login window IS translated
[17:58] <david_J> todd_: do a ls /dev/fd*
[17:58] <Syko> Has anybody gotten the orange box to work with an ATI card?
[17:58] <hit> and other things also
[17:58] <mirak> I have ubuntu on a mac, and the lirc_serial module that is provided with the package linux-ubuntu-modules aren't seen by modprobe command, how is it possible ???
[17:58] <wols> todd_: mount |grep media/disk
[17:58] <magnetron> hit: yes
[17:58] <Dr_willis> the orange box ?
[17:58] <wols> todd_: what /dev/ is shown
[17:58] <UcayalyFish> well, it works now:) kind of a miracle:)
[17:58] <magnetron> hit: but not EVERYTHING
[17:58] <hit> argh
[17:58] <Syko> orange box = steam (Team fortress 2, Portal etc...)
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Steam apps i hear work with wine.
[17:58] <Dr_willis> or at leat the Half life 2 ones do.
[17:59] <TigranG> Syko: or you can get Cedega, but its not free.
[17:59] <todd_> wols: hold on...
[17:59] <hit> magnetron, the ARE translated because they WERE in estonian before
[17:59] <Syko> I can get Steam to work with wine, however nothing will run with the ATI driver... ATI drivers i hear suck.. but if there's anyone that knows...
[17:59] <wols> Syko: check appdb.winehq.com
[17:59] <magnetron> Syko: ATI sucks ATM
[17:59] <wols> Syko: do you have xserver-xgl loaded?
[17:59] <Syko> yeah
[17:59] <wols> Syko: that's the problem. remove it
[18:00] <Syko> doesnt work with either
[18:00] <TigranG> My bluetooth mouse was working fine for a long time, and today it decides not to work, when I do hcitool dev it doesn't even show my usb bluetooth adapter anymore. How can I fix this?
[18:00] <todd_> wols: /dev/sdf on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1001,utf8,umask=077,usefree)
[18:00] <mathias> bonjour tout le monde
[18:01] <wols> todd_: dd if=/dev/sdf then
[18:01] <rain> hi
[18:01] <MikeH> hrm, I some how drew on my screen, and I have no idea how. Any ideas how to get rid?
[18:02] <Dr_willis> MikeH,  the fire thing in compiz?
[18:02] <TigranG> MikeH: You have compiz?
[18:02] <rain> can someone help me?  i want make my kde look like vista
[18:02] <rain> but i dont know how start
[18:02] <Dr_willis> rain,  go grab some vista-ish themes at kde-look.org perhaps? or use compiz/emerald  it has a dozen vista wanna-be themes
[18:03]  * TigranG doesn't get why ppl want to make it look like another (crappy) os
[18:03] <Arrick> hey all
[18:03] <Arrick> anyone here use the iisemulator package before?
[18:04] <hit> switched language in login window to estonian and it asked if i wanted to reload login screen and see it in estonian
[18:04] <hit> it was still in english
[18:04] <rain> i typed vista theme in "SEARCH" and i found only 1 theme and 1 other stuff
[18:04] <ActySofts> wols: OK, that site you gave me told me to do exactly the same as the guide on the Ubuntu wiki did, however, my problem is that Evolution doesn't seem to recognize my "Inbox" file :(
[18:04] <kelsin> rain: on kde-look.org? Try typing vista instead of vista theme
[18:05] <jude> can someone help me configure hitman on wine??
[18:05] <Dr_willis> Theres also a lot of kde themes in the repos. NOT isntalled by default. Install them, try them. You may like them better.
[18:06] <suraj> how can i bind my 2-nics to utilize my 2-pppoe connections in ubuntu?
[18:06] <ergun> hi there
[18:06] <CarlFK> jude: /join #winehq
[18:07] <jude> thks CarlFK
[18:07] <rain> - Put buttons.above.png and buttons.unabove.png into ~/.emerald/themes/name_of_your_theme/   <-- how to understand this?
[18:07] <WARlrus|away> Hi, I'm having trouble using 7.10 and a USB wireless adaptor. Ubuntu recognises the adaptor, but when I put in the correct WEP key it doesn't seem to connect
[18:07] <ergun> q
[18:08] <wols> WARlrus|away: what chip in the usb adapter?
[18:08] <user__> hi
[18:08] <user__> heloooo
[18:08] <WARlrus|away> wols: I don't know that, how can I find that out?
[18:08] <user__> can anyone please help me with a cybercafe timer
[18:08] <benzs_s> what's the success rate doing a distribution upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[18:08] <wols> WARlrus|away: lsusb
[18:08] <wols> !ask | user__
[18:08] <ubotu> user__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:09] <david_J> Woah VirtualBox is cool
[18:09] <heatmzzr> What is KDE, im looking at a list of programs I can add in Ubuntu.
[18:09] <WARlrus|away> Belkin Components F5D7050 ver 1000 WiFi
[18:09] <user__> is anyone operating a cyber cafe
[18:09] <wols> !anyone | user__
[18:09] <ubotu> user__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:09] <suraj> can anybody help me with nic-binding in ubuntu?
[18:09] <wols> !ask | suraj
[18:09] <ubotu> suraj: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:10] <suraj> help me with nic binding in ubuntu...
[18:10] <WARlrus> wols: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 050d:7050 Belkin Components F5D7050 ver 1000 WiFi
[18:10] <focmb> nabend
[18:10] <wilberfan> (still not a question)  ;)
[18:11] <manad> If I want to have a shared media folder among all users, what is the location of choice? /usr/ ?
[18:11] <Dr_willis> manad,  definiatly not /usr/
[18:11] <Dr_willis> manad,  you could make a /public i guess
[18:11] <crimsun> manad: /media
[18:12] <Dr_willis> or a /media/public  or similer place.
[18:12] <manad> allright, thanks
[18:12] <SonicChao> I have one of those U3 flash drives; with all those features on it. >>; How do I have Ubuntu format it to a normal Flash Drive? Because it doesn't read this one
[18:12] <wols> mneptok: no, nothing in /usr
[18:12] <benzs_s> what's the success rate doing a distribution upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[18:12] <wols> SonicChao: mkfd.vfat /dev/devicename1
[18:12] <VerticalTheory> does the 8800GT work on linux?
[18:13] <SonicChao> wols: Where <devicename1> is?
[18:13] <Dr_willis> SonicChao,  the u3 flash drives - appear as 2 drives to ubntu, one is a cdrom. so will be like /dev/scd1 the other will be a normal usb drive so will be like /dev/sda1
[18:13] <Arrick> can someone tell me what the lightest weight desktop is that will use the default 6.06.1 packages?
[18:13] <Dr_willis> SonicChao,  theres not a way that vie found yet to 'remove' the u3 stuff.
[18:13] <WARlrus> I'm having trouble with a Belkin USB Wireless dongle, it picks up networks around me, but when I enter the WEP key for mine, it does not seem to connect
[18:13] <wols> SonicChao: check demsg. how should I know
[18:13] <SonicChao> wols: Sorry. :|
[18:13] <Dr_willis> SonicChao,  'sudo fdisk -l' may also help
[18:14] <wols> SonicChao: dmesg rather
[18:14] <WARlrus> and then pops up again asking for the passphrase, even though I know I'm using the correct one!
[18:14] <wols> WARlrus: anyting in dmesg?
[18:14] <heatmzzr> Does it make any sense that my laptop battery would last any longer using Ubuntu, rather than vista?
[18:14] <todd_> wols: thanks allot man, you rock!
[18:15] <mips> how do you install k/ubuntu to LVM ???
[18:15] <Dr_willis> heatmzzr,  more efficient use of the hard drive perhaps..
[18:15] <wols> heatmzzr: vista is known to suck abttery. xp might be better than ubuntu btw
[18:15] <WARlrus> wols: Yes, theres a lot in there! Anything inparticular I should be looking for...?
[18:15] <Kvist> heatmzzr: Possible. My compaq lapto's brightness can be set to much lower than what I can in Windows.
[18:15] <infinitycircuit> mips, you need to use the alternate install cd
[18:15] <wols> WARlrus: any messages from your wlan stick
[18:15] <wols> WARlrus: would be near the end
[18:16] <VerticalTheory> in gonna cry
[18:16] <VerticalTheory> the 8800GT doesnt work
[18:16] <VerticalTheory> what a waste of money
[18:16] <manad> If I give permissions to the "users" group, that means all user accounts on this machine get them? Or is "users" for something else?
[18:16] <Dr_willis> My 8800 works...
[18:16] <WARlrus> wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mix-cell disabled - disassociate
[18:16] <Dr_willis> its a gtsxxx however. I think. :)
[18:16] <mips> infinitycircuit, is there no way with the livecd, I don't want to DL another iso
[18:16] <VerticalTheory> mine is a GT
[18:16] <infinitycircuit> mips, yes there is no way to use lvm from the livecd
[18:16] <heatmzzr> Ok, i was just looking at remaining time, and I do have a decent battery, but at 60% having over to hours left is pretty good..
[18:16] <Dr_willis> No idea whats different in all the gt/gtx/whatever except for speeds of the chips..
[18:16] <VerticalTheory> i've heard theres loads of probs with the 8800 series
[18:17] <mips> infinitycircuit, in that case it looks like i'm stuck with sabayon
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> how come the nvidia_new driver doesn't work?
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> i wanna use a FREE driver
[18:17] <Dr_willis> VerticalTheory,  Yea. not sure what the problems would be. Could be more of a bios/mb/video card issue also. all i can say is my 8800 gtsXXX from xfx works fine.
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> not this evil nvidia stuff
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> i want to be open source.
[18:17] <Arrick> SonicChao, you can use BootITNG to remove u# crap frm a drive
[18:17] <wols> VerticalTheory: vesa then
[18:17] <wols> VerticalTheory: and no 3D for you
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> vesa only does 800x600
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> lol
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> im kidding
[18:17] <VerticalTheory> ill give envy a try
[18:17] <heatmzzr> can anyone tell me how to get the streaming video to work at www.blogtv.com?
[18:18] <wols> VerticalTheory: versa certainly does 1024 and probably higher on your card
[18:18] <VerticalTheory> does compiz run well?
[18:18] <bruenig> !envy | VerticalTheory terrible idea
[18:18] <ubotu> VerticalTheory terrible idea: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:18] <VerticalTheory> the binary drivers work?
[18:18] <SonicChao> Arrick: Thanks. :3 That helped
[18:18] <bruenig> um
[18:18] <wols> VerticalTheory: should, yes
[18:18] <bruenig> that is exactly what evny _tries_ to install
[18:19] <Dr_willis> compiz works decent on my 8800
[18:19] <wols> bruenig: just that ir botches the install
[18:19] <bruenig> wols, right
[18:19] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible..
[18:19] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  i thionk it grabs the latest nvidia drivers..
[18:19] <VerticalTheory> i used to have an ATI card
[18:19] <wols> Kvist: tried 100?
[18:19] <WARlrus> wols:: wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mix-cell disabled - disassociate
[18:19] <Kvist> wols: Still too big.
[18:19] <Kvist> wols: It was set to 96 by default, but most of the fonts look really horrible
[18:20] <wols> Kvist: then increase the number until it looks right
[18:20]  * pcfascist runs compiz on my tandy
[18:20] <Kvist> wols: Is that the only way? My screen size is 17" @ 1920 x 1200
[18:20] <mikebeecham> hey...can I get some advice....I have tried to use gconf-editor (under sudo) to change the menu bar icon....but despite following the instructions, the icon has not changed....could anyone help point me in the right direction please?
[18:21] <rain> how to install kbfx?
[18:21] <Kvist> wols: xdpyinfo says its 153 dpi
[18:21] <Dr_willis> mikebeecham,  under 'sudo; that changes the root users settings.. not your users.
[18:21] <kelsin> mikebeecham: you shouldn't need to use sude
[18:21] <kelsin> mikebeecham: the gnome registry is done the right way, in that user settings can override system settings
[18:21] <WARlrus> wols: Its saying that "link is not ready"
[18:22] <crow> anyone alive?
[18:22] <Lilacor> How do I get PDF printing working under 7.10?
[18:22] <{Nathan}> yeah
[18:22] <Lilacor> !pdf
[18:22] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[18:22] <{Nathan}> I'm alive
[18:22] <crow> ok
[18:22] <Lilacor> !pdf printing
[18:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdf printing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:22] <mikebeecham> kelsin: when I navigate to gconf, under custom_icon there is an orange icon with an exclamation mark, telling me that the key is not writeable?
[18:22] <manad> guys, what user group covers all user accounts? I tried giving read/write permissions to "users" but after logging out then back in I could not edit the file.
[18:22] <crow> {Nathan} pm pls
[18:22] <kiiz> hi where can i find the scammodem too.
[18:23] <WARlrus> Hi, can anyone help me with connecting to a wireless network using a Belkin USB Wireless Dongle? When I enter the WEP key it appears to connect, but doesn't!
[18:24] <mikebeecham> kelsin: is there any other way to try changing the icon?  I navigated through nautilus to the icon folder, but there was no distributor-logo or start-here logo to change.  There was only one folder inside, named "Scaleable"
[18:24] <VerticalTheory> is the propriety nvidia driver any good?
[18:24] <Lilacor> VerticalTheory: better than the free one
[18:25] <VerticalTheory> how do i stop the xserver Lilacor? ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't seem to work
[18:25] <kelsin> mikebeecham: I don't know, I was just responding to running gconf-editor as sudo which shouldn't be done ussually
[18:25] <Lilacor> ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:25] <Lilacor> that kills the xserver
[18:25] <mikebeecham> kelsin: thanks then
[18:26] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible..
[18:26] <VerticalTheory> ctrl-alt-backspace just restarts it for me :(
[18:26] <crow> hey
[18:26] <crow> anyone can help me with somth?
[18:26] <ikonia> crow: ask
[18:26] <caleb__> in BSD, i have to specify a partition type number (e.g. 6 for DOS). what is the number for vfat? i need to share a partition
[18:26] <ikonia> crow: fdisk /dev/$device then to "T" for toggle and "L" to list types
[18:27] <crow>  I've partitioned my disc into 3 partitions
[18:27] <crow>  1 of 30GB for windows
[18:27] <crow>  1 of 30GB for ubuntu
[18:27] <crow>  and one of 100GB for sharing between them
[18:27] <crow>  when I log into ubuntu I can't see the one of 100GB
[18:27] <crow>  and its FAT32 formated
[18:27] <crow>  anyway you could help me?
[18:27] <ikonia> caleb__: however if you are currently using bsd, that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:27] <LjL> !paste > crow    (crow, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:27] <ikonia> crow: define "can't see"
[18:27] <crow> oh
[18:27] <kevind23> crow: is the 100GB monuted?
[18:27] <crow> monuted?
[18:27] <bqmassey> i'd like to install AWN....   any reason i shouldn't do it from Synaptic?
[18:28] <bulmer> mount'ed
[18:28] <bazhang> heh
[18:28] <ikonia> crow: can you explain what your expecting in that "you can't see it"
[18:28] <crow> ok
[18:28] <Lilacor> VerticalTheory: it used to kill it...because it's best for non-technical users to be using the GUI, xserver is automatically restarted
[18:28] <kevind23> bqmassey: I run x86_64 and I had to compile it from source.. you should be fine though
[18:28] <crow> I want my ubuntu to read my 100GB partition
[18:28] <crow> but it doesn't
[18:28] <ikonia> bqmassey: not at all
[18:28] <wols> crow: filesystem?
[18:28] <CarlFK> how can I get the source to  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/x11/jppy  so I can try to build a .deb for 7.10?
[18:28] <ikonia> crow: "where" does it not read your partition
[18:28] <VerticalTheory> the proprietary driver installer won't let me do it with xserver running?
[18:28] <LjL> !backports > CarlFK    (CarlFK, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:28] <ikonia> crow: can you expalain how your trying to access it
[18:28] <caleb__> ikonia: i technically am using ubuntu, but i first want to make a share partition between bsd; then actually /install/ ubuntu... so it is related :D
[18:28] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible.. Sometimes either the bold is too blurry, and normal text okay, or the other way round. I just can't get everything to look right and I've tried all the default fonts and more
[18:28] <bqmassey> cool, thanks ikonia, kevin23
[18:29] <crow> I have 3 partitions
[18:29] <wols> VerticalTheory: they will, if you install it the ubuntu way
[18:29] <crow> one with windoze
[18:29] <ikonia> caleb__: no its not
[18:29] <ikonia> crow: yes, but how are you trying to access the partition
[18:29] <ikonia> crow: how are you expecting to see it
[18:29] <crow> I dunno
[18:29] <crow> how should I?
[18:29] <ikonia> crow: ok, so your question is "how do I access it", not "its not reading it"
[18:29] <crow> it doesn't have an icon for it
[18:29] <crow> sorr
[18:30] <ikonia> crow: ok, so your expecting an icon on your desktop, yes ?
[18:30] <crow> well yeah
[18:30] <bulmer> crow the bottom line, all file system you wanted to view must be mounted first
[18:30] <LjL> ikonia: well, "it's not reading it" isn't a question to begin with
[18:30] <kevind23> It's probably not mounted >.>
[18:30] <crow> if its not on desktop, where could it be
[18:30] <kevind23> You should be able to mount it with Nautilus
[18:30] <ikonia> LjL: true, thats why I wanted to understand if it was actually failing rather than just not working as expected
[18:30] <LjL> i know
[18:30] <shane_> hi all!
[18:30] <crow> Nautilus is a program?
[18:31] <ikonia> crow ok, no problem. How many hard disks do you have ?
[18:31] <LjL> crow: it certainly is, it's your Ubuntu file manager
[18:31] <crow> 3
[18:31] <crow> thanks
[18:31] <ikonia> crow: 3 harddisks, I'm taling about physical harddisks, not partitions
[18:31] <crow> oh 1
[18:31] <shane_> i have a question...
[18:31] <kevind23> Quick question, I compiled mono, is there any hack for apt so I can install packages for it even though I never installed mono from it?
[18:31] <wols> !ask | shane_
[18:31] <ubotu> shane_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:31] <ikonia> crow: ok, so please put open a terminal, do you know how to do that ?
[18:31] <wols> kevind23: equivs
[18:31] <crow> yep
[18:31] <kevind23> wols: eh?
[18:31] <crow> but I'm logged into windoze now
[18:32] <crow> so you may pm me the procedure
[18:32] <CarlFK> LjL thaks - doesn't look like jppy is there though.
[18:32] <wols> kevind23: apt-cache search for it
[18:32] <crow> and I'll remember it
[18:32] <darkgoth> ubuntu en español??
[18:32] <LjL> CarlFK: no, but it explains how to *request* backports.
[18:32] <ikonia> crow: ok, so what I would like you to do, is login to ubuntu, open a terminal and do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" and put that in a pastebin, does that make sense ?
[18:32] <LjL> !es | darkgoth
[18:32] <ubotu> darkgoth: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:32] <wols> !es | darkgoth
[18:32] <shane_> when i launch gnome-screensaver the title bar has no name defined for it... and when i use Fluxbox the window is named 'Unnamed'. How can I define a name for it?
[18:33] <crow> hmm
[18:33] <CarlFK> kevind23: here is my solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[18:33] <crow> isn't fdisk for disk pratitioning?
[18:33] <ikonia> crow: thats right
[18:33] <crow> well
[18:33] <crow> the partition is already maden
[18:33] <bulmer> anyone used Blender? how do I ever print the 3d figure i have? this is my first time and Im helping my kid submit his report..
[18:33] <wols> crow: it does more than that
[18:33] <ikonia> crow: I'm asking you to do that command and put the output in the pastebin so I can see your disk layout
[18:33] <ikonia> crow: then we can establish how to fix you
[18:34] <crow> ok
[18:34] <kevind23> CarlFK: I already compilied & installed mono, is there a hack for apt so it realizes that I met the mono dependencies, or do I have to uninstall it and compile it into a .deb, then install that one?
[18:34] <Arrick> !wireshark
[18:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:34] <ikonia> kevind23: not really
[18:34] <wols> kevind23: I already told you
[18:34] <Arrick> !ethereal
[18:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:34] <wols> ikonia: there is
[18:34] <ikonia> kevind23:
[18:34] <Arrick> wth?
[18:34] <ikonia> oops
[18:34] <crow> that would be later, cause I have to downlad IRC for linux (I'm on windoze now)
[18:34] <ikonia> wols: really ?
[18:34] <crow> read ya later
[18:34] <ikonia> crow: ok
[18:34] <wols> ikonia: equivs
[18:34] <magnetron> !msgthebot | Arrick
[18:34] <ubotu> Arrick: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:34] <crow> btw
[18:34] <gadren> i have a question: i'm running Gutsy on a laptop with fglrx.   Suspend/hibernate don't work, and according to the ATI Linux Driver wiki, the only way to fix it without going back to Feisty is to recompile my kernel to use SLAB.  is this something i should do, and, if so, how exactly do i do it?
[18:35] <LjL> CarlFK: well, what that URL explains is actually very similar to what you asked about jppy. add the gutsy source repository where jppy is contained, then see if "sudo apt-get -b source jppy" gets you a clean compile. if it does, you could still tell the backports team about it.
[18:35] <bqmassey> i can't seem to find AWN in Synaptic
[18:35] <ikonia> wols: equivs won't actuall create package dependencies though will it
[18:35] <crow> what IRC  would you recomend me?
[18:35] <crow> for linux
[18:35] <CarlFK> kevind23: uninstall what you did, follow those directions. life will be better than way.
[18:35] <ikonia> crow: xchat is the most straightforward
[18:35] <bqmassey> crow: xchat
[18:35]  * kevind23 uses KVIrc
[18:35] <crow> ok thanks
[18:35] <wols> ikonia: it will fool apt into thinking the dependencies are met
[18:35] <magnetron> !info wireshark > Arrick
[18:35] <Arrick> magnetron, I want investigating, I want to know how to get ethereal/wireshark installed, and I am very surprised that there is nothing in the bot about it
[18:35] <j1solutions> hello all
[18:35] <ikonia> wols: ahhh, that I agree with, but thats why I wouldn't push it either
[18:35] <magnetron> !info ethereal > Arrick
[18:35] <CarlFK> LjL: that's what I was hoping.  wasn't sure if it was that easy.  thanks
[18:35] <wols> ikonia: as he requested, it is a hack
[18:36] <j1solutions> <--all linux at home now
[18:36] <kevind23> The whole reason I compiled it was because apt refused to update any of my mono packages because it couldn't find the matching mono-jit version
[18:36] <magnetron> Arrick: applications menu > add/remove , search for "wireshark"
[18:36] <ikonia> wols: no, no, I understand that, I'd just like him to be clear what it actually means
[18:36] <LjL> CarlFK: it might not be. depends on whether or not the gutsy package is really a perfectly good gutsy package to begin with
[18:36] <j1solutions> <---windows is a disease of which I've been cured
[18:36] <LjL> err, the *hardy* package is...
[18:36] <ikonia> !offtopic >j1solutions
[18:36] <shane_> anybody with an idea for my q?
[18:36] <Arrick> magnetron, at the moment, Im still trying to even determin which desktop I want, there is no gui on the box yet
[18:36] <rain> how replace Kmenu button image?
[18:37] <bazhang> rain: kbfx
[18:37] <wols> Arrick: apt-get install wireshark. is that so bad you need a factoid for it?
[18:37] <ikonia> Arrick: you have installed the server version ?
[18:37] <rain> y
[18:37] <magnetron> j1solutions: please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:37] <rain> but
[18:37] <Arrick> yes ikonia
[18:37] <rain> how i install kbfx
[18:37] <j1solutions> ok magnetrong, sorry
[18:37] <ikonia> Arrick: why ? would a desktop version not be more appropriate ?
[18:37] <magnetron> Arrick: while you are thinking about it, install ubuntu gnome
[18:38] <Arrick> I asked a while ago about what is a super lightweight desktop
[18:38] <LjL> bazhang, rain asked how to replace the K icon i think... that's a bit different from installing kbfx
[18:38] <Dereck> uit
[18:38] <LjL> the icon is somewhere in /usr/share surely
[18:38] <wols> Arrick: ratpoison
[18:38] <bazhang> LjL: oops sorry
[18:38] <rain> i  could'nt find instructions for kbfx
[18:38] <magnetron> j1solutions: don't be sorry, just join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:38] <rain> i only downloaded kbfx
[18:39] <j1solutions> anyone running a weatherduck on ubuntu?  I have one but it's webpage can't display a chart that req's java
[18:39] <SamuraiDio> did someone already installed and ubuntu on an acer aspire 7520 notebook?
[18:39] <wols> !info kbfx
[18:39] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1718 kB, installed size 4108 kB
[18:39] <LjL> rain: what do you mean "downloaded"?
[18:39] <heatmzzr> will xchat allow multible server windows and chat windows?
[18:39] <Nirevus> Just a quick question, can locally stored thunderbird emails be carried over from Windows to Ubuntu?
[18:39] <wols> heatmzzr: yes
[18:39] <bazhang> rain: that will give you a whole different menu layout than the kmenu--I misunderstood sorry
[18:39] <[diablo]> good evening #ubuntu ... I've got a Samsung R20 laptop, with a ATI chipset.. When I install 7.10, I notice that sometimes I need to press a key, or the machine stops working... holding say CTRL down "fixes" it... so I assume it's some IRQ issue... im installing via alternative btw... anyone know of this issue?
[18:39] <FluxD> heatmzzr: yes
[18:39] <rain> that  i have kbfx packaga in my desktop
[18:40] <FluxD> rain: if its a deb file double click and install it
[18:40] <LjL> rain, in your desktop? kbfx is in the official Ubuntu repositories. you should use *those* for installing your software (unless you absolutely need some piece of software that's not available there). otherwise, hosing your system is a quite likely event. please learn about APT.
[18:40] <LjL> !software > rain    (rain, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:40] <rain> its not deb
[18:40] <LjL> rain: then don't install it
[18:40] <kevind23> Also, how do I remove the graphical progress bar on startup and shutdown
[18:40] <rain> where i can get deb file?
[18:40] <shane_> SamuraiDio: I have Ubuntu on an Aspire 3003NLMi ... if it helps...
[18:40] <FluxD> rain: search in synaptic
[18:41] <LjL> rain: from the *standard repositories*. gee. just type « sudo apt-get install kbfx » in a terminal, or search in Synaptic or whatever -- it's there. please also *read* the link i gave you.
[18:41] <LjL> !packages > rain    (rain, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:41] <j1solutions> hello heatmzzr
[18:41] <rain> tnx
[18:41] <heatmzzr_> hello jlsolutions.
[18:42] <SamuraiDio> shane_, maybe, can u show me the specificationsw
[18:42] <SamuraiDio> ?
[18:42] <SamuraiDio> shane_, may some devices are the same
[18:42] <FluxD> SamuraiDio: I am running it on an acer 5000
[18:42] <FluxD> SamuraiDio: I am running it on an acer aspire 5000
[18:42] <SamuraiDio> http://pastebin.com/d4ff8071a
[18:43] <SamuraiDio> this is my lspci
[18:43] <SpookyET> hi
[18:43] <SpookyET> Beagle is not indexing thunderbird. I'm wondering why.
[18:43] <SamuraiDio> FluxD, with everything installed succesfully?
[18:43] <FluxD> SamuraiDio: everything working fine here
[18:44] <rain> i cant find link u given me can you give it again? I installed kbfx, what i do now?
[18:44] <shane_> SamuraiDio: what do I run to get that output in the pastebin?
[18:44] <SamuraiDio> FluxD, did you enabled the special functions of the touchpad? like scrolling and emulated buttons?
[18:44] <cizarr> any good pop3 web client?
[18:44] <SamuraiDio> shane_, huh?
[18:45] <FluxD> SamuraiDio: I dont use the touchpad and I didnt enable it
[18:45] <al-_-Gir> cizarr , thunderbird
[18:45] <magnetron> cizarr: squirrelmail
[18:45] <Nirevus> Just a quick question, can locally stored thunderbird emails be carried over from Windows to Ubuntu?
[18:45] <cizarr> i need webmail client
[18:45] <shane_> SamuraiDio: ok I guess the pastebin link wasn't meant for me then...
[18:45] <zloss> hey could anybody help me.... do you have any idea how can i edit my session time out ?! ?!
[18:45] <magnetron> cizarr: squirrelmail
[18:46] <Nirevus> cizarr, roundcube is a good one
[18:46] <cizarr> thanks magnetron :) check it
[18:46] <zloss> hey could anybody help me.... do you have any idea how can i edit my session time out ?! ?!
[18:46] <zloss> for example if i'm inactive for about 5,6 mins i got to re-login
[18:46] <shane_> when i launch gnome-screensaver the title bar has no name defined for it... and when i use Fluxbox the window is named 'Unnamed'. How can I define a name for it?
[18:46] <Nirevus> cizarr: http://www.squirrelmail.org/
[18:46] <nickrud> zloss, system->prefs->screensaver
[18:46] <zloss> pleaaaaase....
[18:46] <Nirevus> cizarr: http://roundcube.net/
[18:46] <SamuraiDio> shane_, i didnt uderstoodyour questin above
[18:46] <deufrai> hi there, i'd like to know if there's a way to tuern my laptop's fan off (HP NC6000) on gutsy
[18:46] <cizarr> yeah roundcube looks good
[18:46] <zloss> hm... ok i'll take a look
[18:46] <SamuraiDio> question*
[18:46] <Eagle-101> does someone here have a somewhat default install of boost? I just modified boost/system and I'd like to know if thats a default location.
[18:47] <bqmassey> ok.. i'm trying to apt-get install something..... and it demands a 7.10 CD...  WHY?  how do i get it to get the packages from the internet?
[18:47] <lemartin_> alguien ha instalado drupal5
[18:47] <johnficca> what is the package I need in order for me to share files with other linux pc's
[18:47] <heatmzzr> jlsolutions were you the one I chatted with yesterday?
[18:47] <lemartin_> ?
[18:47] <rain> how to replace kmenu logo? i have installed kbfx but i even dont know how to use it
[18:47] <SamuraiDio> shane_, did you use the touchpad?
[18:47] <cizarr> thanks Nirevus
[18:47] <akincer> Anyone know how to make a program default to one screen or another in a dual monitor setup?
[18:47] <Oli``> anyone here know if repartitioning mdadm-raid is as easy as just loading up gparted and editing the mdX device?
[18:47] <nickrud> zloss, if you're having problems with some movie players, you can add the inhibit applet, it disables screen blanking manually
[18:48] <ikonia> akincer: what dual monitor technilogy are you using
[18:48] <speps> does someone use opera?OPera-Flash plugin issue...Please help!!!
[18:48] <shane_> SamuraiDio: my question is not related to the Aspire topic... but anyway I do use the touchpad with scrolling enabled..
[18:48] <deufrai> bqmassey: edit your sources file to remove CD-ROM entry
[18:48] <ikonia> Oli``: what level of raid
[18:48] <akincer> nvidia-settings
[18:48] <zloss> nickrud, godamn it
[18:48] <zloss> help ya very much
[18:48] <zloss> !
[18:48] <Oli``> ikonia: 1
[18:48] <shane_> SamuraiDio: middle click is emulated by tapping with 2 fingers
[18:48] <ikonia> akincer: no idea with nvidia-settings, sorry
[18:48] <akincer> ikonia: how about with another one?
[18:48] <Eagle-101> bqmassey, use synaptic, modify the repositories to not include that location. I got that myself several times
[18:48] <ikonia> Oli``: hmmmm than your md disks should already be partitions rather than a disk level
[18:49] <SamuraiDio> shane_, can you send me your xorg.conf?
[18:49] <ikonia> akincer: you set a primary display in the xinerama config
[18:49] <shane_> SamuraiDio: right click is done by tapping on the bottom right corner... sure... 1 sec
[18:49] <dug_> akincer: I think you have to use something like devil's pie
[18:49] <Eagle-101> settings-> repositories -> software sources
[18:49] <Eagle-101> bqmassey, settings-> repositories -> software sources
[18:49] <rain> how to replace kmenu logo? i have installed kbfx but i even dont know how to use it
[18:50] <ikonia> rain: you need to change the icon file in /usr/share/$something/icons or create your own theme
[18:50] <akincer> dug: thanks, I'll check that out
[18:50] <toed> how do I do dual monitors in gutsy?
[18:50] <Flare183> !info kbfx | rain
[18:50] <ubotu> rain: kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1718 kB, installed size 4108 kB
[18:50] <Oli``> ikonia: not sure I follow. I've got RAID1 over 2 disks with just one partition. I want to split that up (shrink the current one, create a new one) within the raid
[18:50] <rain> what i use for $something
[18:51] <Flare183> rain:> ask in #kubuntu if you want
[18:51] <ikonia> Oli``: you should have 2 disks - not raided then raid each parition on the disk
[18:51] <aladdinsane> Im trying to mount a second internal hd as a "drive", by that i mean i want it to show up in applications as a drive, not a folder. right now i have it mounted as such: UUID=xxx /home/alado/!HDD2        ext3     user,rw  0      0 Which mounts it in that !hdd directory.
[18:51] <aladdinsane> I have tried to mount it with /media and /mnt with no luck.
[18:51] <aladdinsane> I mean i know it is possible, cause the drive in question was automaticly (after the ubuntu install.) mounted like this (a drive) before i partitioned it to ex3.
[18:51] <crypt> hello i am having issues
[18:51] <Flare183> !paste | aladdinsane
[18:51] <ubotu> aladdinsane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:51] <ikonia> Oli``: instead of having disk 1 -> disk 2, have disk 1, partition 1 -> disk 2 partition 1
[18:51] <Oli``> ikonia: mdadm binds to partition, not whole disks?
[18:51] <ikonia> Oli``: yup
[18:51] <Oli``> oh right
[18:51] <Oli``> hmm
[18:52] <nickrud> rain, http://www.kbfx.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20060224123135907
[18:52] <mcquaid> i want to send a link to a friend using apturl so he can just click and install things.  I tried it with gmail but they do not end up being clickable links
[18:52] <SamuraiDio> shane_, can you send me your xorg.conf
[18:52] <Oli``> ikonia: so resizing isn't an issue but I'll have to create an md2 device for the new partition?
[18:52] <mcquaid> i then tried pastebin but it doesn't seem to support html links either.  Is there anything similar to pastebin that supports urls?
[18:52] <hexler> I'm trying to enable WOL on my PC, but in /proc/acpi/wakeup all devices are still disabled. Can anyone tell me if UAR1, MAC or POP1 is the onboard LAN device?
[18:52] <ikonia> Oli``: resizing raid devices is not a good idea
[18:52] <ikonia> Oli``: certainly not while the raid is active
[18:52] <Flare183> !paste | mcquaid
[18:53] <ubotu> mcquaid: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:53] <ikonia> Oli``: stop your raid, destroy it, then create the partitions on each disk and raid the partitions
[18:53] <Mar_La> you add the website in this directory http://www.directoryofwebsite.com
[18:53] <ActySofts> I have some problems with bash scripts. I wan to use the copy_thunderbird.sh script to copy my emails from TB to Evolution, however, when I run it I get "copy_thunderbird.sh".
[18:53] <shane_> SamuraiDio: I PMed you my xorg.conf
[18:53] <shane_> SamuraiDio: did you get it?
[18:53] <crypt> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 and i am attempting to install Wine, but it is giving me two errors
[18:53] <nickrud> aladdinsane, let ubuntu recognize and mount it, don't mention it in fstab
[18:53] <crypt> (1) from Add/Remove there are applications conflicting with Wine and if I attempt to install from the terminal, i t says "error: dependency is not satisfiable: libaudio2"
[18:53] <adamonline45> awwww D:  I woke up this morning, booted my computer, and all my monitor settings are gone! :O  Can anyone help me?  I can't even resize it from 640x480:/
[18:53] <ActySofts> I get that even as root!
[18:53] <ikonia> ActySofts: what script is that and where did you get it ?
[18:53] <ActySofts> I got it from the web while browsing launchpad for help, I'll paste it
[18:54] <shane_> SamuraiDio: did you get my xorg.conf?
[18:54] <ikonia> ActySofts: is it part of an ubuntu package ?
[18:54] <SamuraiDio> shane_, no
[18:54] <NuclearWorm> wow - Cannot join #debian (User limit reached)
[18:54] <ActySofts> no
[18:54] <kevind23> ahhh! what happened to compiz
[18:54] <ikonia> ActySofts: then we can't support it
[18:54] <mcquaid> Flare183, so what's the point of that, it doesn't support urls either
[18:54] <chaosboss> are there any deb packages of Gnome Online Desktop
[18:54] <chaosboss> ?
[18:54] <Flare183> it does
[18:54] <SamuraiDio> shane_, pastebin it
[18:54] <aladdinsane> nickrud: pls dont tell me its that simple...i'll try it out
[18:54] <ActySofts> ikonia: then show me how to import my emails from TB to Evo
[18:54] <ikonia> ActySofts: I have no idea as I don't use evolution
[18:54] <agisofsparta> how do i see the cube?
[18:54] <agisofsparta> i enabled it and i can rotate the cube... but i can't zoom out and see the whole cube
[18:54] <Flare183> mcquaid:> it does
[18:54] <cybex_> ?
[18:55] <ikonia> ActySofts: a post on the ubuntu forums may offer more solutions
[18:55] <deufrai> ActySofts: there are plenty of pages found via Google to do that
[18:55] <deufrai> did It a few weeks ago
[18:55] <kevind23> wtf! my key bindings don't work
[18:55] <crypt> I am receiving "error: dependency is not satisfiable: libaudio2" when attempting to install WINE, please assist
[18:55] <Flare183> you have to copy the link it gives you, but you must be fast at copying the url
[18:55] <mustafa_> hello
[18:55] <kevind23> Alt+Tab shows a really boring tab switcher
[18:55] <kevind23> and my cube is gone
[18:55] <ikonia> kevind23: please don't use phrases like WTF, this is a family friendly channel
[18:55] <ActySofts> deufrai: except that it doesn't recognize the file so I can't import them
[18:55] <buggeredfstab> Where can I find resources on accessing a printer attached to a windows box?
[18:55] <mustafa_> !paste
[18:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:55] <shane_> SamuraiDio: http://pastebin.com/d1a6f5eb5
[18:55] <mikebeecham> Apart from Deviantart and Gnome-look.org....can anyone point me in the right direction of some well-designed icon themes?
[18:55] <glassfac1> wine is freezing up my system. what is wrong with wine?  running gutsy
[18:55] <nickrud> aladdinsane, you still here?
[18:55] <ikonia> mikebeecham: google
[18:56] <aladdinsane> nickrud: yes about to restart
[18:56] <Flare183> mikebeecham:> opendesktop.org
[18:56] <mikebeecham> ikonia: lol
[18:56] <ikonia> mikebeecham: ?
[18:56] <mikebeecham> Flare183: thanks mate
[18:56] <Flare183> mikebeecham:> np
[18:56] <ActySofts> here's the script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47576/
[18:56] <ikonia> ActySofts: we can't support that script
[18:56] <deufrai> ActySofts: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-import-thunderbird-emails-to-evolution
[18:56] <aladdinsane> nickrud: whats up?
[18:57] <nickrud> I was thinking external, this is how I put a drive on my desktop from an internal:  /dev/hda8  /media/i386-home ext3    defaults        0       2
[18:57] <crypt> any1?
[18:57] <ActySofts> deufrai: I've read that 10000 times...just that Evolutino doesn't recognize the file "Inbox" and the list of file types is greyed out
[18:57] <mustafa_> http://pastebin.com/m42054e23 when i try to mount my old win xp harddisk i'm getting this error
[18:57] <shane_> SamuraiDio: got it now?
[18:57] <SamuraiDio> shane_, yeah, tnx
[18:57] <shane_> np
[18:57] <mcquaid> Flare183, could you tell me how?  I choose html.  I tried www.test.org http://test.org and even <a href="http://test.org/">test</a> but none of them ended up being clickable links
[18:57] <Flare183> !patients | crypt
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patients - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:58] <Flare183> !patient | crypt
[18:58] <SamuraiDio> shane_, but you are usint the 'configured mouse and not the synaptics, right?
[18:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:58] <ikonia> Flare183: its patience
[18:58] <Flare183> i get that now =
[18:58] <glassfac1> when i'm trying use wine my system hangs, same with cross over also! any idea?
[18:58] <ActySofts> hmm, it seems that I can't run ANY bash script O.o, not even something like: echo "test"
[18:58] <ActySofts> O.
[18:58] <ActySofts> O.o
[18:58] <Flare183> mcquaid:> join me at #ubuntu-us-sc
[18:58] <shane_> SamuraiDio: I am using synaptics... i have a USB mouse which I use sometimes..
[18:58] <deufrai> ActySofts: didn't meet the problems you refer to :S
[18:58] <nickrud> aladdinsane, did you see my last, forgot to nick it
[18:58] <agisofsparta> how do i create myown theme
[18:59] <ikonia> agisofsparta: there are guides on the web, and lots of experience in the "graphics and art" section of the ubuntu forum
[18:59] <eTranquility> I messed with my graphics card driver/settings, rebooted, and now I'm getting "failed to start the X server". Can anyone help me fix it so I can get back to my gui?
[18:59] <agisofsparta> thankyou
[18:59] <shane_> SamuraiDio: this is the default Gutsy setup... no changes were done to it after a clean install
[19:00] <mustafa_> http://pastebin.com/m42054e23 when i try to mount my old win xp harddisk i'm getting this error
[19:00] <wols> eTranquility: need more info
[19:00] <riotkittie> eTranquility: did you back up xorg.conf before toying with settings? you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to set it straight, if not
[19:00] <SamuraiDio> shane_, what mouse do you get on $cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[19:00] <deufrai> still looking for help turning my laptop fan off. Echoing "off" to /proc/acpi/fan/...... failes
[19:00] <ActySofts> I'm not able to run ANY bash scripts, no matter what they contain (even a simple 'echo' won't work). Any ieas:
[19:00] <ActySofts> *ideas?
[19:00] <ikonia> ActySofts: define "won't work"
[19:00] <riotkittie> ActySofts: did you make them executable?
[19:00] <wols> riotkittie: dpkg-recnfigure should back up the old one by default
[19:00] <aninhumer> I'm trying to create split rar files, but rar appears to be ignoring the "-v" option
[19:00] <wols> ActySofts: paste a bashscript of yours
[19:00] <ActySofts> yes, I did
[19:00] <Eagle-101> does someone here have a somewhat default install of boost? I just modified boost/system and I'd like to know if thats a default location.
[19:00] <ikonia> ActySofts: define won't work
[19:01] <nickrud> ActySofts, chmod u+x scriptname, then from the directory the script is in, ./scriptname
[19:01] <ActySofts> here: #!/bin/bash <LF> echo "test"
[19:01] <ActySofts> where <LF> is a newline
[19:01] <ikonia> ActySofts: can you please expand on "won't work"
[19:01] <mikebeecham> if an icon theme does not specify a menu icon...where does Ubuntu pick up the normal Ubuntu icon from?
[19:01] <riotkittie> yea but if he was customizing it, chances are he didnt go that route
[19:01] <shane_> SamuraiDio: http://pastebin.com/d4f6941c5
[19:01] <WARlrus> I'm trying to connect to a wireless network in 7.10, but I'm getting a error message through dmesg: "wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mixed-cell disabled - disassociate" - what does this mean and how do I fix it?!!!!
[19:01] <Roland_> hi.. i'm trying to connect to a vista machine with my gutsy, and i have no luck with it
[19:01] <ActySofts> ikonia: on what topic exactly?
[19:01] <nickrud> !wontwork
[19:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wontwork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:01] <ikonia> ActySofts: "bash scripts won't work"
[19:01] <nickrud> !doesntwork
[19:01] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[19:01] <Roland_>  what should i do?
[19:01] <ikonia> ActySofts: please expand on "won't work"
[19:02] <grenet> hello
[19:02] <ikonia> hi
[19:02] <magnetron> !doesntwork > ActySofts
[19:02] <enrique17> i love ubuntu
[19:02] <wols> Roland_: connect to what kind of service?
[19:02] <Roland_> filesharing
[19:02] <grenet> sorry, just checking in
[19:03] <aninhumer> I'm trying to split a rar file into DVD sized volumes, but it seems to be ignoring the -v option
[19:03] <ActySofts> ikonia: they didn't run at all, but nickrud pointed out to me that I needed to chmod 'em
[19:03] <nickrud> mikebeecham, they use inheritance, look at the index.theme
[19:03] <eTranquility> Amount of memory to be used by the video card?
[19:03] <ikonia> ActySofts: for future reference you need to give more info than "they don't run at all"
[19:04] <ActySofts> ikonia: well...they didn't run at all, so what more info could I have given?
[19:05] <grenet> leaving
[19:05] <wols> ActySofts: there are always error messages
[19:05] <ikonia> ActySofts: I execute them, I get no output, or I get an error, or script one works, but script 2 doesn't, I'm running as X user, with Y location etc
[19:05] <mustafa_> Hello, i'm facing with problem on ubuntu 7.x i'm trying to mount my old winxp hdd but it gives this error http://pastebin.com/m42054e23
[19:05] <Roland123> does anyone know how to access a share on vista machine?
[19:05] <ikonia> Roland123: samba
[19:05] <SamuraiDio> shane_, tnx again
[19:05] <Happy_Man> Reland: Samba
[19:05] <shane_> np
[19:05] <ActySofts> ikonia: OK, I said some I got "Permission Denied"
[19:06] <ikonia> ActySofts: I missed that
[19:06] <Eagle-101> Is boost::system already compiled for me when I get it from synaptic? (is it even in the repos?)
[19:06] <mikebeecham> nickrud: I'm not sure I understand...I have the index.theme file open in text editor, but I dont know what I'm looking for
[19:06] <noor> any one know a a gui program i can use to encode this avi file to MP4? im having some problem finding em T___T
[19:06] <aladdinsane> nickrud: nope didnt work, and as i can see and understand that wouldn't solve my problem either, i want the hdd to show up as a drive in all applications, such as Thunar/Nautilus/Gimp or whatnot
[19:06] <ikonia> !info boost
[19:06] <ubotu> Package boost does not exist in gutsy
[19:06]  * Eagle-101 suspects he just nuked it :)
[19:06] <nickrud> ActySofts, didn't see that  message either, I just keep forgetting that chmod thing, figured you had also ;)
[19:07] <zel1> hi i've a compaq presario f500
[19:07] <MikeH> I'm not sure what I've done, but somehow I've "drawn" on my desktop in red? I presume it's some feature of XGL/Compiz, any ideas how to get rid?
[19:07] <zel1> but i've  a problem
[19:07] <zel1> a bios bug on boot
[19:07] <nickrud> aladdinsane, ah, thunar I don't know, but it would show up under places in gimp (or any other app that uses the gnome file selector). That media dir thing is a gnome thing
[19:07] <Happy_Man> Mikelevel: that's a plugin called annotate
[19:07] <eTranquility> I used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now it's making me go through a bunch of prompts... what should I put for "Amount of memory (kb) to be used by the video card"?
[19:08] <Happy_Man> check in the settings for the keybinding to get rid of it
[19:08] <nickrud> aladdinsane, not a linux wide thing
[19:08] <zel1> but i've seen that is a TRUSTED PC :(
[19:08] <wols> eTranquility: keep empty
[19:08] <zel1> ok..
[19:08] <ikonia> eTranquility: leave at default, unless you know how much ram you have
[19:08] <zel1> thanks!
[19:08] <eTranquility> What about kernel framebuffer device interface?
[19:08] <wols> zel1: how is that a problem?
[19:09] <wols> eTranquility: if you don't know: default
[19:09] <aladdinsane> nickrud: aha, is it because im running xubuntu then maybe?
[19:09] <nickrud> mikebeecham, for example, /usr/share/icons/Human/index.theme says it inherits Tangerine icons, and if Tangerine doesn't have one, it uses gnome icons
[19:09] <wols> and what does "TRUSTED PC" mean?
[19:09] <aninhumer> Hang on, is it possible to use the "-v" option with the "ch" mode for the rar command
[19:09] <zel1> yes wols
[19:10] <zel1> i must to boot with acpi=off pnpbios=off irqpool
[19:10] <nickrud> aladdinsane, most likely, I have little experience with xubuntu
[19:10] <zel1> -_-
[19:10] <ikonia> zel1: again, why is that causing your a problem
[19:10] <ikonia> causing you a problem even
[19:10] <mustafa_> ok fixed ntfsfix helped me ^^
[19:10] <wols> zel1: what does "trusted PC" mean and why does it care about pnp bios, acpi and all that?
[19:11] <zel1> because i can't use ACPI
[19:11] <aladdinsane> nickrud: ok, thnx for the effort anyway, i'll keep looking/asking/trying
[19:11] <eTranquility> What about the mouse port? (I'm using a laptop with a touch pad.) Is /dev/input/mice right?
[19:11] <zel1> because the booot goin on block wols
[19:11] <ikonia> eTranquility: if you don't know the answer, use the default
[19:11] <zel1> and with this boot options the sistem boot :)
[19:12] <wols> zel1: what has a "trusted PC" (whatever that is) to do with ACPI?
[19:12] <ikonia> wols: I too am curious
[19:14] <blix_> I need to destroy the contents of a HDD, what's a good tool?
[19:14] <emptyeighty> DBAN
[19:14] <ikonia> blix_: dd
[19:14] <blix_> I just downloaded that
[19:14] <eTranquility> Okay, so I did all that, I have the command prompt thing at the bottom, now what?
[19:14] <censorydep> Anyone want to help troubleshoot some sound issues under Gnome?
[19:14] <blix_> mmm, Ill take another look
[19:14] <arnaud__> Bonjour tous le monde
[19:15] <blix_> DBAN can't detect a drive
[19:15] <blix_> annoying
[19:15] <wols> eTranquility: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[19:15] <ikonia> blix_: dd and random is your friend
[19:15] <crypt>  any1 able to install Wine on ubuntu 7.10
[19:15] <blix_> dd and random
[19:15] <wols> !anyone | crypt
[19:15] <ubotu> crypt: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:15] <blix_> are these data destruction software tools?
[19:15] <wols> blix_: dd if=/dev/urandom
[19:16] <ikonia> crypt: many people have it working
[19:16] <arvin_> someone please help me with these..i can view the gamecast in www.soccernet.com using mozilla firefox or epiphany web browser
[19:16] <wols> blix_: dd is. /dev/urandom is a source for pseudo random numbers
[19:16] <arvin_> any other browwser 2 recomend
[19:16] <blix_> ah right, k, I'm currently in Windows : - O
[19:16] <crypt> Well, for whatever reason, everytime I attempt to install it, it says there is a conflict with something already installed
[19:16] <wols> arvin_: uf you can watch it why change?
[19:16] <crypt> but all i've done was install 7.10, without adding anything seperate
[19:16] <hudyx> Any ideas why my computer would not wake back up from 'sleep' with Ubuntu 7.10?
[19:17] <arvin_> someone please help me with these..i CANTview the gamecast in www.soccernet.com using mozilla firefox or epiphany web browser
[19:17] <arvin_> sorry
[19:17] <eTranquility> Okay... then what?
[19:17] <arvin_> about type erroe
[19:17] <wols> crypt: apt-cache policy wine   and apt-get install wine. output of both please
[19:17] <ikonia> crypt: are you running ubuntu 64 bit ?
[19:17] <wols> eTranquility: then you have X back on VT7
[19:17] <crypt> no 32bit
[19:18] <eTranquility> So restart? o.O
[19:18] <wols> eTranquility: did I say restart?
[19:18] <censorydep> To ubotu's point: My sound under Gnome just stops working about 75% of the time.  It seems like it silently fails after a variable period of time as I am sometimes able to get sound.  But, if I turn off vlc and release the audio, I could come back to no sound 20 mins later.  Ideas?
[19:18] <crypt> wols: where should i provide you with the output?
[19:19] <wols> !paste | crypt
[19:19] <ubotu> crypt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:19] <eTranquility> Well, it's left me at * Starting GNOME Display Manager...
[19:19] <arvin_> someone please help me with these..i CANT view the gamecast in www.soccernet.com using mozilla firefox or epiphany web browser..any other web browser 2 recomend
[19:19] <krim> I want to record what I hear from a film but Sound Recorder doesn't seem to be able to do that. Anyone know how I can do it?
[19:19] <ikonia> arvin_: define can't view ? is it a flash site ? do you have the flash plugin installed, can you view anyother sites of a similar style ?
[19:19] <elvys> somebody knows How can I install AWN-EXTRAS?
[19:19] <crypt> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47580/
[19:20] <arvin_> i think its a flash site
[19:20] <ikonia> arvin_: do you have the flash plugin installed ? does it work on any other flash sites ?
[19:20] <arvin_> http://soccernet.espn.go.com/scoreboard?league=esp.1&cc=4716
[19:20] <wols> arvin_: does flash work for you?
[19:21] <arvin_> please go the site n press on gamecast for the atletico madrid game
[19:21] <arvin_> u will knwo wat i mean..
[19:21] <ikonia> arvin_: it doesn't matter what we do, it matters about your problem
[19:21] <arvin_> nop.. i dun have flash plugin how  do i get them ?>
[19:21] <elvys> somebody knows How can I install AWN-EXTRAS?
[19:21] <ikonia> arvin_: ok, the flash plugin package is currently broke in terms of downloadability within the ubuntu repo
[19:21] <hudyx> Notebook not waking from sleep on U7.10, any ideas?
[19:21] <ikonia> arvin_: so getting it at this exact moment may be an issue
[19:22] <wols> crypt: you need to be root to isntall stuff and budgetdedicated is not ubuntu. ask the wine folks what they did wrong in their package
[19:22] <crimsun> ikonia: broken?  How?
[19:22] <ikonia> crimsun: the checksum on the adobe tar file has changed
[19:22] <elvys> somebody knows How can I install Avant Window Navigator Applets?
[19:22] <wols> crypt: wrong md5 since adobe updated it
[19:22] <arvin_> so there is no way of viewing flash websites using ubuntu os ?
[19:22] <crimsun> ikonia: ...for Hardy?
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> elvys: ther'es a lot of faq's out there.
[19:22] <wols> crypt: for gutsy
[19:22] <ikonia> crimsun: no, gutsy, but it should effect all OS's
[19:22] <kevind23> How do I disable the graphical progress bar on system startup / shutdown
[19:23] <crimsun> ikonia: Hardy's should be fine.
[19:23] <ikonia> crimsun: why ?
[19:23] <crypt> how do i become root to install?
[19:23] <ikonia> crimsun: it uses the same flash version last time I looked
[19:23] <eTranquility> I have * Starting GNOME Display Manager... [OK], what should I do now?
[19:23] <nickrud> kevind23, edit /boot/menu/grub.lst , look for lines with splash in it, remove the word splash
[19:23] <crimsun>  *** 9.0.115.0ubuntu2 0
[19:23] <crimsun>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages
[19:23] <wols> eTranquility: ctrl+alt+f7
[19:23] <crypt> and what do you mean wrong md (i am new to ubuntu/linux world)
[19:23] <ikonia> crimsun: what version of adobe's plugin does it download
[19:24] <arvin_> so there is no way of viewing flash websites using ubuntu os ?
[19:24] <hudyx> IndyGunFreak: how are you? Any ideas why my notebook would not wake from sleep?
[19:24] <IndyGunFreak> hudyx: some notebooks have issues w/ that...,
[19:24] <crimsun> ikonia: 9,0,115,0
[19:24] <new-user_lin> Hi all
[19:24] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not sure of the exact cause.
[19:24] <kevind23> arvin_: What are you talking about? Flash works just fine on Ubuntu...
[19:24] <eTranquility> "The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly."
[19:24] <hudyx> hmm, anything I can do about it?
[19:24] <ikonia> crimsun: I'll check that out, see if it is still the same version
[19:24] <new-user_lin> who can help me to install ubuntu ?
[19:24] <IndyGunFreak> hudyx: i really don't know to be truthful, both my laptops go in/out of sleep fine.
[19:24] <nickrud> crypt, md is short for md5sum , md5sum is a prog that creates a unique checksum on a file, so you can be sure it's the same file
[19:24] <new-user_lin> http://img.mybgblog.com/out.php?i=24_Screenshot.png
[19:25] <mcquaid> does any quick posting site like pastebin actually support html like links?   I want to quickly post some apt links using apturl
[19:25] <obad-warone> hi
[19:25] <crypt> and how did you tell i was out of date of that?
[19:26] <crypt> also, how do i become root? on my user name to install
[19:26] <elvys> IndyGunFreak: Yes, I know, but anyone works to me
[19:26] <obad-warone>  i have host game for war zone
[19:26] <ikonia> crypt: use synaptic and it will ask you for your password
[19:26] <hudyx> IndyGunFreak: I haven't tried just closing the lid, it happens with I hit the red power button, and click sleep.  When I open the lid and hit the power button to wake it, the power light and battery light come on, but the display stays off and the HDD light doesn't flash at all.
[19:26] <nickrud> crypt, because it's a well known problem; the checksum for the old flash doesn't match the new flash, and the installer is expecting the old one
[19:26] <obad-warone> any boddy intersted
[19:26] <dgjones> :)
[19:26] <kevind23> crypt: from the terminal or with an X app?
[19:26] <eTranquility> There's a prompt at the bottom... now what?
[19:26] <crypt> from terminal
[19:26] <kevind23> then, sudo <command>
[19:26] <ikonia> obad-warone: this is a support channel
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> hudyx: that may be what it is, mine goes to sleep when i just shut the lid, i don't use the sleep button
[19:27] <nickrud> crypt, sudo <command>
[19:27] <obad-warone> sry
[19:27] <wols> crypt: doesn't matter. your WINE which you try to isntall is not from any ubuntu repo. ask WINE forlks, it's their package
[19:27] <nickrud> crypt, also, sudo -i will give you a root terminal, if you're gonna do a series of commands. Typing exit will get back to normal
[19:27] <crypt> wols: unfortunately i went there first
[19:27] <arvin_> but i cant viuew falsh websites in mozilla?
[19:27] <arvin_> how do i solve that ?>
[19:27] <kevind23> nickrud: wouldn't sudo su be better?
[19:27] <oediv> anyone using mplayer and multiple displays? I cannot get my mouse on my 2nd display when I have mplayer playing fullscreen on the other..
[19:27] <kevind23> arvin_: Are you x86 or x86_64?
[19:28] <hudyx> IndyGunFreak: ok I'll try that.  Also, what is a good, free IRC client for Ubuntu? Also, a good messenger client?
[19:28] <kevind23> hudyx: For GNOME, Pidgin and Xchat
[19:28] <wols> kevind23: not in ubuntu. discouraging root use is good
[19:28] <crypt> they stated, because i simply installed ubuntu and did not add any addition software, and attempting to install there product mentions "a conflict with an existing installation" they stated it was something ubuntu prone
[19:28] <arvin_> x86_64
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> hudyx: i like xchat-gnome.. many others like plain xchat, others like kvirc for KDE, others still like irssi
[19:28] <kevind23> wols: what's wrong with root use :O
[19:28] <nickrud> kevind23, no, sudo -i sets things up properly, (like making home /root) , sudo su leaves you with your own home, causing unexpected results sometimes. sudo su - would be better
[19:28] <Myrtti> IndyGunFreak: still ;-)
[19:28] <kevind23> meh.
[19:28] <IndyGunFreak> !irc | hudyx
[19:28] <ubotu> hudyx: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[19:29] <Roland123> i can't figure out, how to connect to a vista share... i have smbfs installed. selecting PLACES >> connect to server >> windows share... doesn't work
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> Myrtti: ?.. still?.. i don't get it.
[19:29] <wols> kevind23: look at the typical windows user who is always root. do you have to ask more?
[19:29] <hudyx> kevind23, IndyGunFreak: thanks!
[19:29] <kevind23> arvin_: You have to install a 32-bit client then, I have flash working fine but I have to use Swiftweasel32 instead of normal Swiftweasel
[19:29] <white_eagle> hello, i have a question, can konqueror be ran on ubuntu?
[19:29] <Flare183> !samba | roland123
[19:29] <ubotu> roland123: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:29] <ikonia> Roland123: do you have shares available on the windows machien ?
[19:29] <ikonia> machine even
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: yes.
[19:29] <kevind23> wols: Heh..
[19:29] <white_eagle> ok
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: but i don't know why you'd want to, its slow as all get out.
[19:30] <white_eagle> just to try it
[19:30] <wols> kevind23: i was not joking
[19:30] <IndyGunFreak> then by all means.. you'll have to install a ton of KDE libs, but it will run.;
[19:30] <Roland123> ikonia: i have shared a folder on vista machine
[19:30] <lgc> My dictionary applet won't let me type in anything. Is there a trick to it? Thanks.
[19:30] <crow> finaly
[19:30] <kevind23> wols: Well what about the technical users
[19:31] <white_eagle> and can I run an rtm package?
[19:31] <ikonia> Roland123: ok, so what happens when you try to mount, can the ubuntu machine actually see the windows machine on a network level
[19:31] <arvin_> wat u mean a 32 bit ?
[19:31] <nickrud> white_eagle, rtm?
[19:31] <crow> anyone remember me?
[19:31] <ikonia> white_eagle: rtrm ? rpm you mean ?
[19:31] <ikonia> crow: yes
[19:31] <Roland123> ikonia: no
[19:31] <white_eagle> rpm
[19:31] <white_eagle> yes
[19:31] <arvin_> i just need a plugin to do the work in mozilla
[19:31] <ikonia> Roland123: ok, so thats why you can't mount it
[19:31] <crow> how do I mount partition?
[19:31] <wols> kevind23: ubuntu is not aimed at technical users "Linux for humans" or such, ain't it?
[19:31] <white_eagle> typo
[19:31] <nickrud> white_eagle, look for a deb equivilant
[19:31] <ikonia> white_eagle: its strongly advisable to not attempt to use rpm's as they are meant for a different distro
[19:31] <maynards-girl> how can i check to make sure my share folder is working? i'm having problems seeing the computer on the network to access it's share?
[19:31] <kevind23> arvin_: Your mozilla won't let you run flash, let me try and find you a link.. hold on
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: ubuntu does not use rpm's, look for a debian or install from source(better yet, use the repositories)
[19:31] <crypt> Wols: this is actually the error i receive when i run the install wine command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47583/
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: konq is in the repos.
[19:32] <Roland123> ikonia: probalby yes... but how can i get that computer to show up there?
[19:32] <crow> how do I mount a disc partition?
[19:32] <nickrud> white_eagle, rpms are a different packaging style, and usually can't be massaged to fit ubuntu properly
[19:32] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> nfs?
[19:32] <white_eagle> ok, i wanted to install acrobat 8
[19:32] <kevind23> wols: Well I'm very comfortable with *nix and I run Ubuntu
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: sure they can, its just not smart...lol
[19:32] <ikonia> crow: have you got your partition layout as I asked for ?
[19:32] <lgc> My dictionary applet won't let me type in anything. Is there a trick to it? Thanks.
[19:32] <ikonia> Roland123: put them on the same network
[19:32] <white_eagle> and it came in that package
[19:32] <maynards-girl> bulmer? what's that?
[19:32] <crow> ikonia: ask again pls
[19:32] <magnetron> !repeat > lgc
[19:32] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> what file system are you trying to share?
[19:32] <holx> hi
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: i believe its in the medibuntu repo.. i know i have it.. and thts the only repo i've added.
[19:32] <crow> what should I do?
[19:32] <white_eagle> ok
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu | white_eagle
[19:32] <ubotu> white_eagle: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:33] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, too many of those rpms use environment variables like $RPM in the install scripts, and totally break on deb systems
[19:33] <ikonia> crow: please provide me in a pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[19:33] <crow> w8
[19:33] <wols> crypt: your sources.list is broken: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libaudio2&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all
[19:33] <holx> Is there a possibility to disable the caps lock key or make it do something else, I was hoping there was something like xmodmap
[19:33] <lgc> magnetron, please don't try to force-feed me the etiquette. I've been around for quite a while and I regret I don't get any help lately.
[19:33] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: oh i agree with you, don't get me wrong... if they work, they work half way, and when they don't work, well, lord knows what you hosed trying to get it to work,.
[19:33] <arvin_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334247 will these help to oslve my mozilla falsh plugin poblem
[19:33] <white_eagle> oh, sh*t i downloaded it for nothing
[19:33] <white_eagle> :(
[19:33] <ikonia> white_eagle: please moderate your language, this is a family friendly channel
[19:33] <white_eagle> ok
[19:33] <white_eagle> lol
[19:33] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: downloaded what for nothing?
[19:34] <white_eagle> acrobat 8
[19:34] <nickrud> holx, system->prefs->keyboard, layout options tab
[19:34] <eTranquility> I've got a box with "The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly. " I'd really like my GUI back, and I have no idea what I'm doing. Help?
[19:34] <magnetron> !attitude > lgc
[19:34] <ikonia> white_eagle: its't not funny, it was a serious request
[19:34] <ompaul> !enter | white_eagle
[19:34] <ubotu> white_eagle: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:34] <crow> ikonia: should I paste it in the channel?
[19:34] <crow> all of it?
[19:34] <ikonia> crow: no, as I've asked 2 times, please use a pastebin
[19:34] <ompaul> !paste | crow
[19:34] <ubotu> crow: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:34] <TehGuy> Hi, quick question: when I open up the terminal, I can't go any levels higher then my home folder. So, I can't access CDs... how do I do that?
[19:34] <nickrud> white_eagle, nah, you downloaded it in order to learn you never have to do that again :)
[19:34] <coma> is it possible to move the turn off/restart (red button on top right) to the middle of the toolbar instead?
[19:34] <LiMaO> white_eagle: of course it was for something. it has a purpose. it now has the job of occupying some space on your hardware. i've heard that some files of yours were feeling lonely. =P
[19:34] <ikonia> coma: yes, right click on it and hit "move"
[19:34] <nickrud> white_eagle, well, almost never
[19:35] <magnetron> TehGuy: type: " cd .. "
[19:35] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: are you fairly new to Ubuntu?
[19:35] <jimbobboy> Teh_guy: man cd
[19:35] <crow>  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[19:35] <crow> /dev/sda1               1        3859    30997386   83  Linux
[19:35] <crow> /dev/sda2            3860        4108     2000092+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[19:35] <crow> /dev/sda3   *        4109        8024    31455270    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[19:35] <crow> /dev/sda4            8025       19928    95618880    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[19:35] <lgc> magnetron, is that all the offer you can help? Then be useful and don't waste other's bandwith.
[19:35] <crow> /dev/sda5            8025       19928    95618848+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[19:35] <white_eagle> yes
[19:35] <LiMaO> !paste | crow
[19:35] <ubotu> crow: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:35] <ikonia> crow: why did you do that, I asked you 2 times to not use the channel
[19:35] <kevind23> arvin_: This should help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[19:35] <coma> ikonia: heh should have checked that..thanks
[19:35] <ikonia> crypt: and ompaul asked you
[19:35] <ikonia> oops
[19:35] <ikonia> croppa: and ompaul asked you
[19:35] <TehGuy> No manual entry for cd
[19:35] <TehGuy> thanks though it works/
[19:35] <nickrud> lol
[19:35] <LiMaO> ikonia: crow was banned
[19:35] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: 90% of the packages you need, are in the repositories, and if they aren't in the repositories, then you should stick with whats in the repos, until you're experienced
[19:35] <elvys> Does Somebody know Where could I find "|" on keyboard?
[19:35] <ikonia> LiMaO: thank you
[19:35] <kevind23> wols: Well if Ubuntu lacks support for techincal users maybe I should just use Debian then
[19:36] <Reilithion> Hey, how do I send commands directly to my modem, like ATZ and such.  Like the Ubuntu equivalent of Windows' Hyperterm?
[19:36] <crypt> wols: that appears to have fixed the problem thanks !
[19:36] <KDuB> Anyone know of a good Desklet app?
[19:36] <ompaul> ikonia, they are not with us at the moment - someone stopped their play
[19:36] <kevind23> KDuB: Try gDesklets?
[19:36] <obad-warone> hi again
[19:36] <nickrud> elvys, on a standard us keyboard, above the enter key
[19:36] <bulmer> elvis its above \
[19:36] <ikonia> ompaul: your too quick ;)
[19:36] <KDuB> How can i rename the mounted ntfs partiton
[19:36] <obad-warone> i am looking for games chat room
[19:36] <magnetron> lgc: please remember we are volunteers and nobody ows you an answer, especially if they don't know the answer.
[19:36] <ikonia> obad-warone: not here, use google
[19:37] <Roland123> ikonia: the computers should be on the same network. workgroup name is the same and the computers are connected through a switch ( the computer i'm behind is connected to the internet through wifi , vista machine is not connectde to internet at all) maybe the wired ethernet device is not set up proberly?
[19:37] <KDuB> ty, kevind23
[19:37] <DBpenner_133542> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=8134553
[19:37] <Roland123> ikonia:  but i don't know how to check that
[19:37] <bulmer> KDuB-> unmount it and rename the mount point
[19:37] <cached> what's the best way to restore grub after a windows xp install?
[19:37] <nickrud> !grub | cached
[19:37] <ubotu> cached: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:37] <ikonia> !grub >cached
[19:37] <KDuB> bulmer, I
[19:37] <obad-warone> can i find within network list here ?
[19:37] <KDuB> bulmer, I'm not sure of the mounting commad
[19:38] <elvys> My keyboard is latin
[19:38] <choongii> anyone's rhythmbox freaking out in 7.10 ?
[19:38] <lgc> magnetron, I'm one of the volunteers to. And I usually don't volunteer to remind the etiquette to others. It's useless and plainly irritating. Purism doesn't do any good here.
[19:38] <maynards-girl> how can i check to make sure a shared folder is set up and that a computer is in a certain workgroup?
[19:38] <bulmer> KDuB-> mount -t nfs /dev/whatever /path/mountpoint
[19:38] <elvys> nickrud: My keyboard is lati
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> choongii: iv'e not heard anything, whats it doing?
[19:38] <elvys> nickrud: My keyboard is latn
[19:38] <TehGuy> For some reason Wine keeps putting some fonts in this weird musical font.
[19:38] <TehGuy> What's going on?
[19:38] <nickrud> elvys, not sure then, sorry. I'm english->limited
[19:38] <white_eagle> oh, and I have another problem, i don't know if you are familiar with: I installed wine, cause I wanted to try quake 3, but there were some problems and I uninstalled, and the shortcuts stayed in applications/other
[19:38] <choongii> mine seems to be crashing at random every once in a while
[19:38] <crow>   Report malicious/abusive content
[19:38] <white_eagle> I mean i uninstalled quake 3
[19:38] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> you can always check the permission, ls -la
[19:38] <white_eagle> not wine
[19:38] <crow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47585/
[19:38] <crow> finaly
[19:39] <LiMaO> white_eagle: doesn't quake 3 has a native linux version?
[19:39] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> and then also check the membership of the user in /etc/group
[19:39] <nickrud> white_eagle, right click the applications menu bar, and delete it
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: you can just delete it from the menu...
[19:39] <lgc> magnetron, but thanks for your help and let me throw the issue in the garbage alltogether.
[19:39] <KDuB> so... mount -t nfs /media/sda1
[19:39] <LTjake> anyone have any tips on getting ansi art (w/ block characters) to display properly in the gnome terminal?
[19:39] <white_eagle> ok
[19:39] <crow> ikonia?
[19:39] <KDuB> that unmounts the drive?
[19:39] <white_eagle> rofl, i'm so stupid
[19:39] <bulmer> KDuB-> mount -t nfs /dev/whatever /path/mountpoint
[19:39] <cizarr> any clue why when i change my hostname , after the reboot it changes back to the previous one?
[19:39] <nickrud> white_eagle, nah, just starting the learning curve. It's a fun one
[19:39] <ikonia> crow: yes?
[19:39] <bulmer> KDuB-> no that mounts it, man umount please
[19:40] <crow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47585/
[19:40] <crow> my link
[19:40] <crypt> Wols: my last question, my 3D accelerator is partially enabled, but within my Restricted Drivers, I cant seem to follow any howTO to get my "ATI Accelerated graphics driver" enabled, any assistance?
[19:40] <cached> do install cds double as livecds?
[19:40] <maynards-girl> bulmer, what membership should it be in?
[19:40] <KDuB> how do i find the dev point
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | crypt
[19:40] <ubotu> crypt: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:40] <nickrud> cached, the desktop ones, yes. Not the alternate or server ones
[19:40] <ikonia> crow: that is a totally different partition layout than what you told me
[19:40] <crow> how do u mean?
[19:40] <lgc> ompaul, hi. Do you use the dictionary applet?
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> crow: alternate install/server install= text based... regular CD= Live CD
[19:41] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> to the group you want to share it with
[19:41] <ompaul> lgc, no
[19:41] <Reilithion> nvm.  abrotman found it.  minicom
[19:41] <maynards-girl> bulmer, i want to share it with other computers on the network so i can access my tuff from my laptop
[19:41] <nickrud> !hostname > cizarr  (see private message)
[19:42] <lgc> ompaul, hi. Do you use the CPU freq. control applet?
[19:42] <white_eagle> i love ubuntu also, because there is a very friendly community, lol
[19:42] <crow> so, how do I mount it ikonia?
[19:42] <wols> crypt: what ati card is it?
[19:42] <ompaul> lgc, no
[19:42] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> system->administration->shared folders
[19:42] <KI4IKL> when trying to compile pidgin from souce, I get this error You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build. If you have these installed already you may need to install pkg-config so I can find them.
[19:42] <ompaul> lgc, perhaps you should address the channel with a specific request
[19:42] <lgc> ompaul, do you use Ubuntu?
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> lgc: whats your problem w/ the panel applets
[19:43] <PriceChild> !flash64
[19:43] <kelsin> KI4IKL: any reason you're not using the pidgin ubuntu package?
[19:43] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[19:43] <ice109> are there any pdf readers for linux that can read pdf comments
[19:43] <KI4IKL> kelsin, it's old
[19:43] <nickrud> KI4IKL, why compile when it's in the repos?  and apt-get build-dep will get all the dev headers you'll need if you really want to compile
[19:43] <IndyGunFreak> !pdf | ice109
[19:43] <ubotu> ice109: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[19:43] <nickrud> KI4IKL, apt-get build-dep pidgin, that is
[19:43] <kelsin> KI4IKL: ok well, if you must install from source you can run "sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin" to install all of the dev packages to build the ubuntu version of pidgin, most likely it will get everything
[19:43] <ompaul> lgc, I have been known to use it and many other versions of the gnu/linux family why do you ask?
[19:43] <maynards-girl> bulmer, do i have to reboot when i make changes?
[19:44] <crow> ikonia, how do I access my big drive?
[19:44] <eTranquility> I messed with my graphics card driver, could someone help me get my GUI back?
[19:44] <IndyGunFreak> eTranquility: are you on another PC right now, or live cd or what?
[19:44] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> nope, you may have to activate nfs-server* in /etc/init.d
[19:44] <ikonia> crow: 'm afraid I'm busy at the moment I'm sure someone else in here will be more than capable of helping. Remember, try to give accurate information
[19:44] <wols> eTranquility: what does your xorg.log say?
[19:44] <nickrud> eTranquility, in a console (or recovery boot console)  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[19:44] <crow> ok
[19:44] <maynards-girl> bulmer, how do i do that?
[19:45] <lgc> IndyGunFreak, I have two, actually: one is that after the reinstall I can't get the CPU frequency control to let me switch modes (from "powersave" to "performance", for example). I know there's a way to reconfigure it with dpkg. Do you happen to know it?
[19:45] <IndyGunFreak> eTranquility: take GENERIC defaults, or you won't get back to your GUI.. you can configure the driver once you're back at a GUI.
[19:45] <lauriexxx> hi, can anyone suggest  a quicker way to cut and copy, as it take's 60 minutes for me to move 4 movies from my home folder to my external hard drive.
[19:45] <IndyGunFreak> lgc: no
[19:45] <eTranquility> I'm on another PC, how would I know what my xorg.log says?, and I'll try dpkg-reconfigure.
[19:45] <IndyGunFreak> eTranquility: just boot in safe mode and reconfigure...
[19:45] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[19:45] <lgc> IndyGunFreak, the second one is with the dictoinary applet. It just won't let me type in anything.
[19:45] <cached> thx
[19:45] <wols> lauriexxx: get a usb 2.0 controller and external hdd
[19:45] <VSpike> maynards-girl: is the other computer linux or windows?
[19:45] <nickrud> eTranquility, that command won't ask any questions, just recreate the default
[19:45] <IndyGunFreak> lgc: i've had that same problem on my PC..., but it works fine on my laptop.. not sure what the issue is.
[19:46] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: what won't ask anyu questions?
[19:46] <maynards-girl> bulmer, will i have to reboot my laptop now to see it?
[19:46] <mindframe_> my sound is broken in quake3.  all of my other apps sound works except quake3.  it was working yesterday and now it's not.  any idea what's causing this?
[19:46] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> nope
[19:46] <maynards-girl> vspike, the other computer is a mac
[19:46] <lgc> IndyGunFreak, hmm... how does one file a bug report?
[19:46] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, -pcritical for xserver-xorg
[19:46] <mindframe_> is /dev/dsp the proper sound device?
[19:46] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[19:46] <wols> mindframe_: yes
[19:46] <IndyGunFreak> lgc:  i don't know.
[19:47] <maynards-girl> vspike, i'm new to mac thing too and am clueless
[19:47] <IndyGunFreak> lgc: but regardless, you should prbably leave bug reports to experienced users.
[19:47] <white_eagle> i heard pidgin is updated can i update it using: sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin?
[19:47] <ompaul> !launchpad | lgc
[19:47] <ubotu> lgc: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[19:47] <IndyGunFreak> i mean file one if you like, but...
[19:47] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: thats partially correct
[19:47] <crypt> Wols: when i attempt to change to the FGLRX driver, i receive this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47588/
[19:47] <white_eagle> and fuly correct?
[19:47] <nickrud> white_eagle, no, that's to get the right environment for compiling pidgin, something you want to leave for later in the curve ;)
[19:47] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: lol, now that was just funny
[19:48] <kelsin> white_eagle: no, that is the command to install the dev libraries to build pidgin from source, it will not update pidgin itself
[19:48] <wols> crypt: answer my question. I didn't ask what driver you use
[19:48] <wols> mindframe_: echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[19:48] <lgc> IndyGunFreak, is "launchpad" what you mean? (Ompaul, thanks.)
[19:48] <white_eagle> so, how can I update it?
[19:48] <crypt> woops, i didnt see it
[19:48] <IndyGunFreak> lgc: yes, i know what launchpad is, but i didn't recommend it to you.
[19:48] <lauriexxx> hi, can anyone suggest  a quicker way to cut and copy, as it take's 60 minutes for me to move 4 movies from my home folder to my external hard drive.?
[19:48] <eTranquility> Ok, I reconfigured and I have my gui, but something's still wrong. The screen looks somewhat scrambled, one part of it is copied twice and there are bars all over the place.
[19:48] <ctothej> How can I copy all files/folders from one folder (hidden or not) to another merging their contents?
[19:48] <crypt> wols: Raedon 9600
[19:48] <kelsin> white_eagle: you can learn how to compile it from source if you want, you can download it from their site and read the read me in the .tar.gz
[19:48] <crypt> in an inspirion 9200 series notebook
[19:48] <wols> crypt: and I told you before your sources.list is broken. you will have TONS of problems until you fix that
[19:49] <lgc> IndyGunFreak, so what do you have in mind?
[19:49] <crypt> wols: how do i go about correcting that?
[19:49] <IndyGunFreak> eTranquility: well, now you probablty need to get your driver installed and setup correctly
[19:49] <IndyGunFreak> lgc: nothing.
[19:49] <wols> crypt: by editing your sources.list
[19:49] <white_eagle> but will that update in in the place of the old
[19:49] <crow> I have a problem: I use windows and ubtuntu on different partitions, plus one partition that I want to share between them, but I can't access it from ubuntu. can anyone help me?
[19:49] <lgc> IndyGunFreak, oh thanks.
[19:49] <wols> crypt: things are commented out when they shouldn't be. most probably the main repo
[19:49] <crypt> wols: and where do i go to edit that and what do i edit?
[19:50] <crypt> (sorry i am new to this platform)
[19:50] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: you'll have to download the source code from pidgin.im  after running that build-dep command, then compile the new version of pidgin from source.
[19:50] <sethk> crypt, that's an older version of libstdc++.  It's unusual to need it for a module that isn't also old
[19:50] <crow> anyone?
[19:50] <nickrud> crypt, system->admin->software sources, make sure all the sources are ticked
[19:50] <lauriexxx> anybody know a good program for moving files quickly on feisty?
[19:50] <sethk> crypt, what wols said, do first
[19:50] <KDuB> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[19:50] <KDuB>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:50] <KDuB>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[19:50] <KDuB>        dmesg | tail  or so
[19:50] <wols> sethk: fglrx is closed source software...
[19:50] <KDuB> i couldnt unmount the driver?
[19:50] <kelsin> white_eagle: it might instlal it over the ubuntu one, I don't know, depends on how their tar.gz installs
[19:50] <wols> !paste | KDuB
[19:50] <ubotu> KDuB: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:50] <nickrud> crypt, also make sure the cd on the third tab is unticked
[19:50] <eTranquility> How, so how do I setup the driver?
[19:50] <white_eagle> ok thanks
[19:50] <KDuB> vols im sorry
[19:51] <sethk> wols, doesn't matter, because libstdc++ versions 5 and 6 are not closed
[19:51] <crypt> sethk: on the ubuntu software tab, or the third-party tab or both?
[19:51] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | eTranquility
[19:51] <ubotu> eTranquility: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:51] <sethk> crypt, ubuntu software for libstdc++.  It's a gnu library
[19:51] <rain> how to use 66075-SubVista.emerald ?
[19:51] <wols> sethk: but fglrx is and closed source software uses the oldest version of something if possible so they have the most compatibilitiy
[19:52] <sethk> wols, oh, I see what you mean
[19:52] <eNons3nse> How can I tell the update manager that I don't want to update something so the orange icon will go away?
[19:52] <wols> !hold
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hold - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <sethk> wols, but we're talking about a library change that occurred several _years_ ago ... but if the binary hasn't been updated, then it hasn't
[19:53] <wols> eNons3nse: you can set packages on hold but it's abad idea. could leave you vulnerable to security exploits
[19:53] <rain> how to use 66075-SubVista.emerald ? I have downloaded this theme but i dont know how to use it
[19:54] <eNons3nse> wols:  The package is PenguinTV so I doubt i'm at a security risk for not updating.  I'm using an old one because the new version doesn't work with Gutsy.
[19:54] <white_eagle> ok
[19:54] <elvys> rain: have you installed emerald theme manager?
[19:55] <deniz_> were do i get logitech x-530 drivers?
[19:55] <rain> no
[19:55] <nickrud> eNons3nse, sudo aptitude hold <packagename> then.
[19:55] <deniz_> is there any in the first place?
[19:55] <rain> how ?
[19:55] <rain> i am beginner at here
[19:55] <crypt> Thanks guys, all of the marks weren't checked on my source-list and by doing that allowed me to enable my ATI
[19:55] <VSpike> maynards-girl: macs do smb (which is windows networking) pretty well.  They may or may not do NFS, which is more associated with Unix type systems.
[19:55] <crypt> i appreciate the help
[19:55] <wols> eNons3nse: file a bug then
[19:55] <eNons3nse> nickrud: thanks.  you'd think there would be an easier way to do that built into the GUI
[19:56] <eNons3nse> wols:  it's alreay a known problem.
[19:56] <wols> VSpike: OSX is a unix (even if only BSD)
[19:56] <nickrud> eNons3nse, I think that's easier than the gui, but I think there's a 'force version' option under one of the menus
[19:56] <deniz_> my real question is how do i make my speakers work like 5.1 since thats wat they r and not just 2 speakers of the surround system
[19:56] <elvys> rain: well, You need to install Emerald theme manager, You should install it with synaptic
[19:56] <nickrud> o.0 only ?
[19:56] <deniz_> does anyone here have a surround sound?
[19:57] <wols> nickrud: well, actually OSX is NOT a BSD (apple lost a lawsuit about it)
[19:57] <wols> erm, not a UNIX, rather
[19:57] <nickrud> wols, ah, didn't know that. Don't follow macs much, overpriced pretty boxes in my opinion
[19:57] <eTranquility> Ok, I think I have the ati drivers installed right, the only thing is that the resolution still seems wrong. I have a widescreen. It's at 1024x768 according to screen resolution prefs but doesn't look that way.
[19:57] <deniz_> OSX is based on free BSD
[19:57] <elvys> rain: did you know how can you do that?
[19:57] <bardyr> hey i have a problem with X randomly freezing, when it does i cant move the mouse and ctrl + alt + backslash does not work alt + print scr + k does move the frozen screen but thats it how can i fix it or debug it?
[19:57] <dug_> deniz_: yeah there's a way to set also to do surround sound 5.1, lemme see
[19:57] <Roland123> does network manager allow you to connect with one interface at a time?
[19:57] <VSpike> wols: true - it almost certainly *can* do NFS. Even Windows can after all.  But I wasn't sure how integrated it would be or if it would be easy for a newcomer to set up
[19:57] <deniz_> dug_, thx
[19:58] <dug_> set alsa* i mean, not also
[19:58] <nickrud> wols, but it was the unix but only bsd that got me :)
[19:58] <VSpike> wols: but yeah if you poke around enough in OSX you can get a familiar looking command shell, for sure
[19:58] <bqmassey> how do I start AWN so that it does not require a terminal window to be open
[19:58] <VSpike> wols: I've discovered this often upsets Mac afficionados too
[19:58] <dug_> deniz_: sorry, i can't test myself, but this search found some info in some forums: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=ubuntu+surround+sound+5.1&btnG=Google+Search
[19:58] <white_eagle> is amarok the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[19:59] <MasterShrek> !best
[19:59] <bardyr> white_eagle, seems so, but i like xmms too
[19:59] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[19:59] <bqmassey> white_eagle: depends heavily on what you're looking for
[19:59] <dug_> esp. this page: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/the-simple-way-to-get-51-surround-sound-audio-working-in-ubuntu/
[19:59] <graelin> How can I get the LAMP package?
[19:59] <Classic> Could anyone help me a bit with firefox in ubuntu 7.10?
[19:59] <eNons3nse> white_eagle: many think so, but i don't really like it.  i prefer rhythmbox
[19:59] <wols> VSpike: default filesharing on OSX is samba. as usual with apple a horrible broken, old version
[19:59] <MasterShrek> !lamp
[19:59] <ice109> can someone help me, ubuntu doesn't recognize my usb hard drive
[19:59] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: depends... i like audacious
[19:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:59] <IndyGunFreak> bardyr: xmms is a bit old..
[19:59] <ice109> can someone help me, ubuntu doesn't recognize my usb hard drive
[19:59] <nickrud> white_eagle, there are so many, you can try them all and find one that works the way you listen
[19:59] <VSpike> white_eagle: amarok is very sllck and good at bringing order to a large, chaotic collection
[20:00] <white_eagle> oh thanks
[20:00] <eTranquility> Ok, I think I have the ati drivers installed right, the only thing is that the resolution still seems wrong. I have a widescreen. It's at 1024x768 according to screen resolution prefs but doesn't look that way.
[20:00] <Roland123> does network manager allow you to connect with more than one interface at a time? for example if i'm connected through wifi to internet then wired connection is dropped?
[20:00] <bqmassey> white_eagle: i like Exaile the best
[20:00] <wols> ice109: lsusb. does it show up? does it show up in dmesg when you connect it?
[20:00] <deniz_> dug_, the first two links?
[20:00] <dug_> graelin: you can run 'tasksel' or in the synaptic package manager choose menu edit->mark packages by task
[20:00] <IndyGunFreak> exaile is ok, banshee is good.
[20:00] <elvys> bqmassey: If you've installed AWN then You should find it in Applications-->Accesories
[20:00] <ice109> wols it doesn't show up under fdisk -l
[20:00] <timandtom> How do I open a 3 part .rar in ubuntu 7.10?
[20:00] <dug_> deniz_: this link may work for you: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/the-simple-way-to-get-51-surround-sound-audio-working-in-ubuntu/
[20:00] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: do you need to sync an ipod w/ your collection?
[20:00] <bqmassey> white_eagle: they're easy to install though...   install a few of them and see what you like the best
[20:00] <bqmassey> elvys: perfect, thanks.. i was starting with "avant-window-navigator &"
[20:00] <wols> Roland123: if a connection drops then all programs using that connection will disconnect. you can't just changed over to the other seemlessly
[20:00] <dug_> graelin: 'sudo tasksel' i mean
[20:00] <deniz_> dug_, k thx, ill check it now
[20:01] <ice109> wols not under lsusb either
[20:01] <white_eagle> no
[20:01] <nickrud> bqmassey, you can add it to system->prefs->sessions startup tab also
[20:01] <eNons3nse> timandtom: install unrar.  then in terminal do "unrar x <file name of one of the pieces>"
[20:01] <white_eagle> i like amarok, for now
[20:01] <ice109> can someone help me, ubuntu doesn't recognize my usb hard drive
[20:01] <white_eagle> it is very slick
[20:01] <white_eagle> :D
[20:02] <Roland123> can i use 2 connections at the same time, one connected to a network with internet and the other to a network with no internet?
[20:02] <qaldune> white_eagle did u tried rhythmbox?
[20:02] <timandtom> eNons3nse: ok, thanks. do i need to change to the directory first? And only the filename of one piece, right?
[20:02] <qaldune> try*
[20:02] <white_eagle> yes
[20:02] <wols> Roland123: yes
[20:02] <ompaul> !enter | white_eagle
[20:02] <ubotu> white_eagle: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:02] <bqmassey> thanks nickrud
[20:02] <Roland123> wols: how?
[20:02] <wols> Roland123: when they are in different subnets
[20:02] <wols> Roland123: have different IPs
[20:02] <eNons3nse> yeah.  go into the directory.  the file name should be all one word, but if it's not you can put the file name in quotes.  i believe the x option tells it to unrar it in the current directory.
[20:03] <Roland123> wols: may i contact you with private msg's?
[20:03] <wols> no
[20:03] <elvys> bqmassey: Do you know How can I install AWN-EXTRAS? I mean AWN Applets
[20:03] <VSpike> can anyone recommend me a cheapish mono laser that is linux friendly?
[20:03] <qwaz> why are there 3 different places i can make cron tasks?
[20:04] <eTranquility> I think I have the ati driver installed right, the only thing is that the resolution still seems wrong. I have a widescreen. It's at 1024x768 according to screen resolution prefs but doesn't look that way. How do I get it back to my normal 1024x768?
[20:04] <qwaz> and which one should i use?
[20:04] <bqmassey> elvys, no i dont..  just installed awn myself. sorry.
[20:04] <white_eagle> love ubuntu
[20:04] <white_eagle> bye
[20:04] <deniz_> dug_, how do i get tot hat gedit window thing and do i type that exact text or is it diff for diff kinds of brands and models of speaker systems?
[20:04] <sethk> eTranquility, 1024x768 is not a wide screen resolution, it's a 4:3 resolution
[20:04] <kelsin> qwaz: depends on your needs at the time? Just a job for your users put it in your own crontab file "crontab -e"
[20:04] <askand> My totem media player is stuck in fullscreen..someone knows how to fix that?
[20:04] <ice109> can someone help me i cna't get any external hard drive to mount
[20:05] <EtteSB> askand: hit F?
[20:05] <IndyGunFreak> ice109: is it not mounting, or can you not write to it?
[20:05] <Roland123> wols: how do i set up the wired connection?
[20:05] <askand> EtteSB: doesnt help.. : /
[20:05] <crcarlson> Could someone help me debug an Ubuntu 6.06 install?  It runs fine from the live-cd but freezes after a few hours off of the HD boot.
[20:05] <dug_> deniz_: you can go to the menu system->accessories->terminal then type "gedit .asoundrc" (no quotes)
[20:05] <ice109> indygunfreak not mounting
[20:05] <IndyGunFreak> crcarlson: maybe use a distro that isn't 2yrs old?
[20:05] <adamonline45> Can I get FM/HD radio on a computer?  Not streaming radio... true FM/HD?  I mean, is there such a module available?
[20:05] <nickrud> askand, alt-ctl-f1 , log in, killall totem
[20:05] <wols> Roland123: nab ubterfaces, guve ut a statuc ip
[20:05] <eTranquility> Er... maybe I have the wrong numbers then. I don't quite remember what it used to be... but I don't have any widescreen resolutions in the dropdown list. How do I get them there?
[20:06] <nickrud> askand, alt-f7 to get back to gui
[20:06] <EtteSB> askand: i'd force quit it then. im a bit lazy when to anything right :P
[20:06] <sethk> adamonline45, some of the wintv boards have FM radio
[20:06] <crcarlson> I am trying to run EMC2 which is bundled with 6.06
[20:06] <Roland123> wols: i'll try
[20:06] <sethk> adamonline45, I think there are some others also, but I'm sure about the wintv board with FM
[20:06] <IndyGunFreak> !mount | ice109
[20:06] <ubotu> ice109: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[20:06] <timandtom> Whats the command to change directory again? for my home folder>etc, or something like that
[20:06] <IndyGunFreak> timandtom: cd
[20:06] <askand> nickrud: EtteSB: the problem is not quitting it..that I can simply do with alt+f4..
[20:07] <qwaz> kelsin: what's the difference between cron and at? at is a one time deal?
[20:07] <kelsin> qwaz: yes
[20:07] <IndyGunFreak> timandtom: for instance, cd /home/indygunfreak/Desktop puts me on my desktop
[20:07] <crypt> k. i was able to enable my ATI accelator now, but now i am unable to use the desktop effects feature?
[20:07] <nickrud> onsoleaskand, the only time totem ever did that full screen freeze was when it crashed, I needed the conls
[20:07] <nickrud> er, I really gotta get a new keyboard
[20:07] <Kvist> How do I know what dpi I should set for the fonts? I set it to 153 but my fonts became too huge and horrible.. Sometimes either the bold is too blurry, and normal text okay, or the other way round. I just can't get everything to look right and I've tried all the default fonts and more
[20:08] <askand> nickrud yea but it doesnt hlp with restart..
[20:08] <EtteSB> askand: go to synatpic, do a reinstall of totem
[20:08] <askand> EtteSB:  Tried that to..even purged it
[20:08] <timandtom> Bah, crashed... How do I change directory again? To Home Folder\etc
[20:08] <nickrud> askand, I switched to vlc for my viewing needs, I just plain got tired of totem
[20:08] <IndyGunFreak> timandtom: cd /path/to/folder
[20:08] <adamonline45> sethk: Cool, ty :)
[20:08] <timandtom> ah, thanks
[20:09] <deniz_> dug_, now my sound doesnt work at all!
[20:09] <EtteSB> askand: im stumped then. sry i couldn't be much help
[20:09] <crcarlson> IndyGunFreak : Was hanging a known issue with 6.06?
[20:09] <deniz_> i cant take that text out and it should work but itll be same as b4...
[20:09] <IndyGunFreak> crcarlson: no..
[20:09] <timandtom> Should I get unrar, or unrar-free in synaptic?(sorry for all the questions, should be done after this one! :)
[20:09] <EtteSB> askand: or as nickrud says, switch to VLC :P
[20:09] <IndyGunFreak> crcarlson: is your PC fairly new?
[20:09] <dug_> deniz_: I would just delete that file (.asoundrc) from your home folder then, sorry I'm not of help, you might keep googling things like "ubuntu surround sound"
[20:09] <askand> EtteSB: thanks for trying..looks like thas what I have to do
[20:09] <crcarlson> IndyGunFreak : vintage 2000, AMD 1.1Ghz
[20:10] <deniz_> dug_, its ok, at least u got me started thx :)
[20:10] <askand> EtteSB: Why is VLC not standard in ubuntu? Do you think totem is better in any way?
[20:10] <IndyGunFreak> crcarlson: i don't know, but why did you bother installing a distro that has had 3 newer releases since it was considerd current?
[20:10] <blahing> i need to  bridge the connection from my wifi to my nick card (to my router) how can i do that?, so i am going from a wifi connection to a nick (eth0) witch is connected to the modem port on my router
[20:11] <EtteSB> askand: i'd think someone made totem for ubuntu/linux. where as VLC is cross platform (windows/linux) not sure about mac tho :P
[20:11] <crcarlson> IndyGunFreak : I am trying to use the linuxCNC.org EMC2, which is a RTAI machine control package.
[20:11] <timandtom> Should I install unrar, or unrar-free in Synaptic?
[20:11] <kelsin> EtteSB: vlc, is for max as well, but askand: totem is the default gnome player and integrates into the desktop nicely
[20:11] <IndyGunFreak> crcarlson: that still doesn't explain why you chose a distro that was 2yrs old...
[20:12] <EtteSB> timandtom: Id keep the one in synaptic then it auto-gets updates
[20:12] <maynards-girl> bulmer, i got it working!
[20:12] <maynards-girl> thanks for the suggestions before
[20:12] <crcarlson> IndyGunFreak : Their latest release is a live-CD based upon 6.06.  I believe the thinking is that 6.06 was one of the long term supported releases.
[20:12] <EtteSB> im trying to change ownership of a folder i want to write to. its a folder that a HDD is mounted to. when i try i get "chown: changing ownership of `/HDD2': Operation not permitted"
[20:12] <timandtom> EtteSB: I mighta worded that badly... Both are in Synaptic, I don't know which I should get from it, unrar, or unrar-free
[20:12] <sc0tch> is there a "standard" package to install the latest version of java on gutsy?
[20:12] <kelsin> EtteSB: is it a ntfs mount?
[20:13] <IndyGunFreak> crcarlson: well, ya, but if you're  not paying for support, then 6.06 is kinda pointless.
[20:13] <kelsin> sc0tch: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
[20:13] <MilitantPotato> !java | sc0tch
[20:13] <ubotu> sc0tch: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[20:13] <sethk> EtteSB, when the drive is mounted, you cannot do anything to the mount point.  The mount point directory essentially ceases to exist.
[20:14] <sethk> EtteSB, you can umount, and change it, but it isn't likely to do what you expect
[20:14] <pegasos> Hello. I just have a quick, simple question. When installing apache through apt-get (well, synaptic but...), where in Ubuntu is the folder in which to put the files I want to be on the server?
[20:14] <kelsin> /var/www
[20:14] <CoasterMaster> pegasos, I think it's /var/www, but I'm not 100% sure
[20:15] <EtteSB> kelsin: its fat32. i would do NTFS (or what ever is the latest windows one) but fat32 is the best one on gparted.
[20:15] <sethk> pegasos, /usr/local/apache2/htdocs, I believe.  It may be /var/www
[20:15] <kelsin> pegasos: if you're install apache2 at least the default site config is in /etc/apach2/sites-available/default
[20:15] <rain> how to use emerald theme? i installed emrald and emerald-theme
[20:15] <crcarlson> IndyGunFreak : Ok.  Apparently there are a few hundred users of this distro and it works out fine for them.  I have tried replacing RAM, CPU fans, and power supplies.
[20:15] <kelsin> EtteSB: yeah fat32 and ntfs don't support permissions, they aren't unix file systems, so on the mount command (or in fstab) you can set a umask and a uid/gid for it to mount as
[20:15] <pegasos> Ah, /var/www/ atleast has some that seem to work. Haven't looked at those others yet but thanks, everyone
[20:16] <sethk> pegasos, point a browser at the server, then use lsof to find the location of the index.html showing the "under construction" message
[20:16] <kelsin> EtteSB: "mount <dev> <place> -o umask=<whatever>,uid=<whatever>,gid=<whatever>"
[20:16] <luisdwq> Escriba el texto aquí....hola
[20:16] <Kvist> !clamav
[20:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:16] <Kvist> !av
[20:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:17] <Kvist> !antivirus
[20:17] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[20:17] <Kvist> !linuxvirus
[20:17] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[20:17] <pegasos> Okay, thanks but everything is fine for now again. Thanks again and bye.
[20:17] <kelsin> pegasos: /usr/share/doc/package-name/README.Debian ussually has ubuntu/debian specific info like that in it
[20:17] <KI4IKL> Where can I cahnge my workgroup in ubuntu gutsY?
[20:17] <sethk> virus scanning is needed if you run a mail server.
[20:17] <KI4IKL> !workgroup
[20:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workgroup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:17] <sethk> which I guess is "serving windows clients" although most people wouldn't make that connection
[20:17] <timandtom> Anyone know if I should install unrar, or unrar-free? Both are in Synaptic
[20:18] <bulmer> maynards-girl-> congrats..
[20:18] <VSpike> can anyone recommend me a cheapish mono laser that is linux friendly?
[20:18] <luisdwq> Escriba el texto aquí....hola
[20:18] <sethk> timandtom, free, unless you have a problem with free
[20:18] <wols> timandtom: unrar. has more features
[20:18] <EtteSB> kelsin: whats gid/unmask? im guessing uid is user id.
[20:18] <sirjoebob> hello all. quick question... i vnc into my  home ubuntu pc remotely and it got restarted.... is there a method to log it in via ssh and connect to it?
[20:18] <wols> tifine: e.g. support for newer rar versions
[20:18] <kelsin> KI4IKL: it's a samba setting. I think in System->Admin->Shared FOlders you can set it
[20:18] <bulmer> VSpike-> laserjet 4  they go for around 20 bux on craigslist
[20:18] <VSpike> KI4IKL: the most direct way is to do gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:18] <jas01> Is there a better GTK IRC client than Xchat?
[20:18] <wols> EtteSB: group id. and it's umask
[20:18] <CoasterMaster> Is there an alternative to the built in gnome-panel weather applet?
[20:19] <rpedro__> since I distupgraded from feisty to gutsy, my screen is garbled when I switch to a virtual terminal from X with ALT + Fx, and I have to switch back to X. is there a way to fix it?
[20:19] <kelsin> EtteSB: gid is group is, and umask is a inverse of the octal permission you want. If you want the folder to be 755 you set a umask of 022
[20:19] <squarebracket> is there a way to setup files with certain extensions to launch in different programs? i wanted to associate all .exe's with wine
[20:19] <hikenboot> wols:
[20:19] <kelsin> squarebracket: right click and select properties on a .exe file, then look at the Open With tab
[20:19] <rpedro__> squarebracket: right click on an .exe, -> properties -> opens with tab. there select wine
[20:20] <VSpike> KI4IKL: Look for the line "workgroup = HOME" or similar
[20:20] <squarebracket> thanks :)
[20:20] <EtteSB> !fstab > EtteSB
[20:20] <squarebracket> figured it was something simple like that
[20:20] <hikenboot> wols, it turns out that the restricted drives didint get installled on the usb drive and that was the problem...thanks for leading me in the right direction
[20:20] <nikosapi> Anyone know of some software I can use to draw vectors? eg. I want to use magnitude and direction to create lines.
[20:20] <sirjoebob> is there a method to log into x session through ssh?
[20:20] <VSpike> KI4IKL: you will need to do "sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart" when done editing
[20:20] <jake_> counterstike source under wine no sound any ideas
[20:21] <bulmer> nikosapi-> inkscape
[20:21] <classic> Does anyone know why the updating of the MD5 for flash-nonfree is unupdated?
[20:21] <VSpike> bulmer: interesting idea, but wouldn't an lj4 be worn out by now?
[20:21] <kelsin> sirjoebob: not with how you're thinking. If you want something like remote desktop you should look into VNC. With ssh though you can run a program remotely and have it appear on your screen with X-Forwarding
[20:21] <nikosapi> bulmer: I'll check it out
[20:21] <VSpike> and why a for rather than a 5 or 6?
[20:21] <bulmer> VSpike-> they are work horses of my era...lolz..they keep on churnin
[20:21] <Castegere> Has any one seen a problem with the update manager, I'm getting 'The list of changes is not available yet.'
[20:21] <sirjoebob> kelsin i have ssh and vnc access to the machine but i restarted and i just need to actually get it logged in so i can vnc
[20:21] <bulmer> VSpike-> well a 5 or a 6 is okay too, i had 4 in my mind thats all
[20:22] <qwaz> kelsin: where should the crontab file be kept once it's edited? ~/,crontab?
[20:22] <arko> hi
[20:22] <VSpike> bulmer: agreed, they were great printers
[20:22] <sirjoebob> jake_ go to the wine configuration and make sure it is using the correct audio type (alsa/oss)
[20:22] <VSpike> bulmer: what's the toner/drum cost like?
[20:22] <kelsin> qwaz: you use the command "EDITOR=gedit crontab -e" to edit your crontab, it will take care of it for you
[20:22] <arko> how can I see the messages showed during boot? It was too fast and I could not read an error.
[20:22] <sirjoebob> kelsin, is there a way to get it logged back in without physical access?
[20:22] <bulmer> VSpike-> thats the kicker on all printers, ink cost more than the printer/print head..
[20:23] <jake_> sirjoebob i tried all the sound settings alsa oss still nothing
[20:23] <qwaz> kelsin: i just used vi....but it saved to /tmp/contab.gdtd8p/crontab
[20:23] <VSpike> bulmer: a lot of the cheap lasers you buy now are essentially disposable items because the cost of new toner/drum is more than another cheap laser
[20:23] <bulmer> VSpike-> if you can get some of those refills maybe it will lessen your cost
[20:23] <kelsin> sirjoebob: don't think so, ussually when I set up vnc a vnc login would spawn a new xsession anyway, I don't normally go for the "export my current desktop" model for that very reason :-(
[20:23] <sirjoebob> jake_ i wouldnt know then... i never had that issue and i am not that sure of what to do.
[20:23] <sirjoebob> kelsin, how do i make it create a new login?
[20:24] <rain> I have running emerald themer What i do now? how i use >>>66075-SubVista.emerald<<<  how i apply emerald theme?
[20:24] <kelsin> qwaz: it should have spit out a message like "installing new crontab" or something, even if it doesn't just running "crontab -e" again and seeing your change is enough to know it's working
[20:24] <jake_> sirjoebob what do you have your sound set on
[20:24] <VSpike> VSpike: true.  my company are quite into samsung printers and they are indeed pretty good, but their linux support is patchy
[20:24] <VSpike> bulmer: ^
[20:24] <bulmer> VSpike-> matter of factly I do have a need for a toner right now, my kids report has a smudged bar on one side..
[20:24] <VSpike> bulmer: sorry long day... 3 year old's birthday party :)
[20:24] <sirjoebob> jake_ i believe alsa... i am not on that machine ATM
[20:24] <kelsin> !vnc | sirjoebob
[20:24] <ubotu> sirjoebob: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[20:25] <bulmer> VSpike-> im partial to HP printers, because of experience i guess..
[20:25] <jake_> sirjoebob ok thanks for the input
[20:25] <elvys> rain: Now, Open Emerald manager and click "Import", find your emerald packages and that's all
[20:25] <VSpike> bulmer: Those old lasers were great, but I'm not sure the new ones stand up so well, especially at the budget end
[20:25] <sirjoebob> jake_ np. good luck
[20:26] <rain> i did it
[20:26] <ping> hey how can i install the w32codecs
[20:26] <sirjoebob> kelsin, thanks i will go try and meddle with it some more
[20:26] <sirjoebob> lol
[20:26] <rain> i see emerald there
[20:26] <kritzstapf> hi, the power button of my thinkpad r61 does not work with ubuntu, is there a way to get it working?
[20:26] <rain> how i apply it?
[20:26] <Slart> !codecs | ping
[20:26] <bulmer> VSpike-> right, thats why I suggested craigslist, i frequently see them at around 20 bux or so,or maybe even for a song
[20:26] <ubotu> ping: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:26] <VSpike> bulmer: their linux compatibility is commendable though, although I'm sure I saw on the database that some of the cheap HP's did not work so well.
[20:26] <elvys> did you open emerald manager now?
[20:26] <markus_> How do I uninstall ubuntu?
[20:26] <VSpike> bulmer: craigslist is basically US only I guess, right?
[20:26] <elvys> rain: did you open emerald manager now
[20:27] <rain> yes
[20:27] <VSpike> bulmer: but I'm sure the same will apply in $LOCATION
[20:27] <Slart> markus_: uninstall? can't you just delete the partition when you install your next os?
[20:27] <rain> how u use selected emarald?
[20:27] <bulmer> VSpike-> globally, but predominantly in sf california ..the busiest web location
[20:27] <elvys> do you see Import button?
[20:27] <rain> yes
[20:27] <rain> ihave imported it
[20:27] <elvys> click it
[20:27] <markus_> What if I want to go to my old os on a different partion
[20:27] <IanLiu> I am getting crazy with this bug... Whenever I press the "Log off, switch user [...]" button, my X crashes... I can't interact with anything... So I must restart X with Ctrl + Alt + Backspace... Any tips? Anyone experiencing the same problem?
[20:28] <bulmer> VSpike-> i just realized, we are near silicon valley, so yah, printers are cheaper here i guess..way many competitions
[20:28] <rain> i heva theme in list
[20:28] <sethk> IanLiu, see if there are any useful messages in the X log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[20:28] <rain> what i do now?
[20:28] <elvys> Ok, then click it
[20:28] <IanLiu> sethk: Ok, I will see
[20:29] <rain> i click on theme?
[20:29] <Slart> markus_: then delete the ubuntu partition and use the space for something else.. add it to the original partition or make it into a separate drive
[20:29] <elvys> yes, You should
[20:29] <rain> and now? nothing happens
[20:30] <proximo> hey, im trying to install wine, but its been standing on "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" for 5-6 mins now, is that normal ?
[20:30] <markus_> how do I remove a  partition?
[20:30] <Castegere> Has any one seen a problem with the update manager, I'm getting 'The list of changes is not available yet.'?
[20:30] <Slart> markus_: you'll have to do that from the other os.. you can't do it while ubuntu is still running
[20:30] <bulmer> markus_-> umm you mean do not mount it?
[20:30] <classic> Could somone help me with flash on gutsy x86_64?
[20:30] <elvys> ok, you should restart your Interface graphic
[20:30] <jake_> proximo it should still go mine took awhile
[20:31] <markus_> ok
[20:31] <rain> how i restart it?
[20:31] <rain> i need logoff?
[20:31] <elvys> rain: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, and try again
[20:31] <proximo> jake_: ok, guess ill wait a little longer then =)
[20:31] <Slart> classic: I don't know if there is a new, better way of doing it now.. but I used something called firefox32 to get flash working.. try googling for it
[20:32] <IanLiu> sethk: The file is very long, but there are no (EE) marks...
[20:32] <jake_> proximo lol i know its painful
[20:32] <KDuB> where do i go to edit the  boot config?
[20:32] <Slart> classic: since then I updated to gutsy and it installed flash automatically... think it uses some kind of wrapper..
[20:33] <classic> Slart, yeah, but that's the problem, it fails due to some MD5-error
[20:33] <markus_> how do I start my other os (windows xp)? It's on the nfts partition and ubuntu is on the ext3 partition
[20:33] <kevin__> is it possible to have compiz working at the gdm login screen?, specifically the zoom plugin
[20:33] <classic> And the x86 .tar.gz from adobe.com won't install under x86_64
[20:33] <elvys> rain: Open emerald manager and try again now
[20:34] <STcom> excuse me, but my resolution is refusing to set itself to 1600 x 1200, instead setting itself to 1400 x 1050.  any suggestions?
[20:34] <Slart> classic: oh.. never had those kind of problems.. don't really know how to solve it
[20:34] <rain> nothing happens
[20:34] <classic> thanks anyway, Slart  =)
[20:34] <jas01> Is there a better GTK IRC client than Xchat?
[20:35] <jake_> rain does it show theme in emerald to select
[20:35] <rain> yes
[20:35] <Slart> markus_: I'm just guessing here.. but I think you can insert your original windows xp cd and use some kind of rescue mode.. you'll probably want to restore the mbr to get xp running again.... if you really want to get rid of grub
[20:35] <elvys> I pass through that, Restart your computer
[20:35] <rain> maybe i meke screen hot and uploadit some where?
[20:35] <plutarcus> hi
[20:36] <jake_> rain i agree restart
[20:36] <nickrud> !grub | markus_
[20:36] <ubotu> markus_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:36] <elvys> rain: I passed through that, Restart your computer
[20:36] <rain> ok
[20:36] <plutarcus> what cool irc
[20:36] <Reilithion> How can I figure out what /dev/ my modem is?
[20:36] <plutarcus> i've never been here
[20:36] <plutarcus> and sorry for my english XD
[20:37] <Reilithion> for use with, i.e. minicom, cutecom
[20:37] <KI4IKL> For some reason when I share a folder on my laptop they don't show up under MSHOME/jared-laptop
[20:37] <mrmonday> What is the command to choose my preferred applications?
[20:37] <KI4IKL> and my desktop isn't even showing up in mshome
[20:37] <Slart> plutarcus: don't be sorry.. as long as you can make yourself understood.. we are all from different parts of the world
[20:37] <nickrud> mrmonday, system->prefs->preferred apps
[20:37] <plutarcus> yes, i'm italian for example
[20:38] <mrmonday> nickrud, I'm not in gnome and it isn't on my menu - I need the command :)
[20:38] <STcom> my resolution is being stubborn and staying at 1400 x 1050, even when I attempt to change it to 1600 x 1200.  suggestions, please?
[20:38] <atlantis> Pure Genius
[20:38] <nickrud> mrmonday, ah, I'm gnomecentric, don't mess with lesser things ;)
[20:38] <Slart> mrmonday: here the launcher points to "gnome-default-applications-properties"
[20:38] <hellfire> hi
[20:39] <task0> hello all, im having problems with video playback...
[20:39] <hellfire> what problem?
[20:39] <rain> restart didnt help
[20:39] <mrmonday> Slart, thanks, that worked :)
[20:39] <jake_> rain is it the default red
[20:39] <task0> hellfire: playback isn't fliud
[20:40] <task0> fluid*
[20:40] <Erealz> is their a way to restart gnome couse I got an error msg saying it couldlnt load?
[20:40] <Flare183> Flare183 is at Walmart
[20:40] <ctothej> how can I check the UUID of hard drives from the command line?
[20:40] <mrmonday> Slart, do you know the kde equivalent? It is set correctly in the gnome properties
[20:40] <mjbauer> hello everyone, I want to know where i can start in the development of ubuntu
[20:40] <elvys> rain: did you open again Emerald Manager after restart and even nothing?
[20:40] <blithen> Erealz CRTL ALT Backspace
[20:41] <Slart> mrmonday: I have no idea.. I haven't used KDE much.. perhaps ask in #kubuntu?
[20:41] <rain> yes
[20:41] <jake_> rain is it the default red?
[20:41] <springlake04> hi
[20:41] <blithen> a
[20:41] <blithen> :q
[20:41] <rain> i dont know i upload my screenhot
[20:41] <proximo> where do i turn off those desktop effects ?
[20:42] <rencore_> how can i see why my computer froze
[20:42] <STcom> proximo: right click, desktop
[20:42] <elvys> proximo: dou you speak spanish?
[20:42] <STcom> proximo: go to the visual effects tab, and select "none"
[20:42] <proximo> elvys: no sorry i dont
[20:43] <mnemonica> Hey, question: Is it possible to create new hotkeys? Such as Super+T to open Terminal?
[20:43] <yassine> good evening everyone
[20:43] <STcom> proximo: did you get that?
[20:43] <rob3r> I'm looking to buy some ear/headphones, just wondering if anyone has some suggestions on USB ones that work well, or if you just got jack general suggestions on what you like would be appreciated
[20:43] <rob3r> I'm running 7.10
[20:43] <yassine> how can execute/start a program to run on an other tty while im connected per remote ssh ?
[20:43] <Reilithion> Anyone have the /dev/modem link?  If so, where does it point on your system?
[20:43] <proximo> STcom: ahh yes, you missed the "change background" part but i figured out, thanks!
[20:43] <mnemonica> I've already tried keyTouch, too confusing.
[20:43] <rain> http://autoit.pri.ee/emerald.png
[20:44] <rain> look this
[20:44] <rain> its my emerald
[20:44] <STcom> proximo: yeah, I'm slightly lazy, and assumed you'd get it.  You're welcome
[20:44] <Weng> rob3r: I've always had success with whatever headsets Logitech is selling around the $15 pricerange at any given moment. But those ain't USB.
[20:44] <hellfire> too slow cpu/gpu?
[20:45] <mnemonica> Hey, question: Is it possible to create new hotkeys? Such as Super+T to open Terminal?
[20:45] <proximo> STcom: hehe, perfectly good excuse! =)
[20:45] <rob3r> Weng: you can just plug 'em in and go? I am working on a long ass paper for school and want to quick go out and grab a pair of head phones so I can listen to music at a cofeeshop, I don't have time to mess around : )
[20:45] <STcom> mnemonica: yes
[20:45] <hellfire> what's 6.9 ??
[20:45] <elvys> rain: do you have Compiz Fusion working on your ubuntu?
[20:45] <rain> http://autoit.pri.ee/emerald.png        <-- emerald here how apply it?
[20:45] <rain> no
[20:45] <mrmonday> Slart, using the kde preferred apps thing didn't do it either :S
[20:45] <rain> whats this?
[20:45] <mnemonica> STcom: Would you care to tell me how? :)
[20:45] <Weng> rob3r: Yep. Assuming your sound card works, anyway.
[20:45] <STcom> mnemonica: system>pref>keyboard shortcuts
[20:46] <aladdinsane> why doesn't my second internal hd show up in my applications like gimp/OOo/Nautilus/etc but does so in Thunar? And no, its not in fstab, if i put it there i have to define it as a folder, which i dont want.
[20:46] <aladdinsane> My guess is that my user dont have the privileges, can i somehow set them with chown chmod?
[20:46] <bconnolly> anyone know how to invoke gnome-launch-box?
[20:46] <rob3r> Weng: yeah, soundcard works great. Thanks a lot, I'll just go  with a jack headphone then
[20:46] <Slart> mrmonday: what are you trying to achieve?
[20:46] <hellfire> A: a 69 interrupted by a period !!!
[20:46] <elvys> do you have ubuntu 7.10 on your computer?
[20:46] <rain>  Compiz Fusion Whats this and how i get it?
[20:46] <squarebracket> !FreeNX
[20:46] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[20:46] <kritzstapf> hi, the power button of my thinkpad r61 does not work with ubuntu, is there a way to get it working?
[20:46] <STcom> mnemonica: did you get to the editing screen?
[20:46] <mnemonica> STcom: How do you create a new one? I've attempted that, and seen previously configured keyboard shortcuts that I can edit... But nothing such as "Add this action to the list" "Associate complex keystroke with action"... That sort of thing.
[20:47] <elvys> rain: do you have ubuntu 7.10 on your computer
[20:47] <mnemonica> STcom: Yes, I have it up.
[20:47] <Slart> rain: it's the spinning cube.. the bling bling of ubuntu.. the shoeshine ... bringer of 'ooohh' and 'aaahhh's...
[20:47] <squarebracket> Does the terminal server client use SSH?
[20:47] <jake_> rain looks like an old version of emerald
[20:47] <Slart> !compiz
[20:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:47] <mrmonday> Slart, when I open links in XChat it opens in Konqueror, not firefox since I installed KDE
[20:47] <white_eagle> hello, how to install kubuntu?
[20:47] <rain> you looked my picture?
[20:47] <Slart> mrmonday: it isn't some kind of xchat setting?
[20:48] <white_eagle> on top of ubuntu?
[20:48] <mrmonday> there is no option in XChat to choose the browser, so I'm presuming it's a default apps thing
[20:48] <hellfire> pic?
[20:48] <STcom> mnemonica: ah, sorry.  I misunderstood your question.  I don't know how to assemble your own shortcuts :(
[20:48] <rain> at  addres i given u
[20:48] <elvys> rain: I'm on that
[20:48] <hellfire> what?
[20:48] <white_eagle> how to install kubuntu on top of ubuntu?
[20:48] <Slart> mrmonday: hmm.. hang on.. I'll check
[20:48] <mnemonica> STcom: Heh. You're straight... Eh... Is it possible, though?
[20:48] <rain> whats wrong there?
[20:48] <mrmonday> Slart, thanks :)
[20:48] <white_eagle> noone?
[20:48] <mnemonica> Stcom: Or would you know a specific place to ask such a question?
[20:49] <STcom> I would think that maybe here, or the ubuntu forums would probably work
[20:49] <white_eagle> how to install kubuntu on top of ubuntu?
[20:49] <rain> how i apply selected theme?
[20:49] <ping_> compiz wont run it gives me Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:49] <ping_> No whitelisted driver found i have an ati 1100
[20:49] <qaldune> white_eagle: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:49] <white_eagle> ok
[20:49] <white_eagle> thanks
[20:49] <bconnolly> isn't that just kde, though?
[20:49] <Slart> mrmonday: I'm running ubuntu gutsy with gnome.. and xchat runs whatever I select in "preferred applications"
[20:50] <Dabian> How do I check the bugs in a package?  (I think xdvi might be broken in gutsy)
[20:50] <mrmonday> Slart, :S
[20:50] <STcom> mnemonica: maybe someone else in here, or the ubuntu website forums
[20:50] <mrmonday> Slart, I've set it as firefox in both KDE and Gnmoe preferred apps :S
[20:50] <jake_> rain what version of ubuntu are you running
[20:50] <elvys> rain: try to changing the apperance
[20:50] <Slart> mrmonday: odd.. and it still runs konqueror?
[20:50] <rain> 7.04
[20:50] <mnemonica> STcom: Alright... Been searching the forums, no luck as of yet.
[20:50] <elvys> rain: try to changing the appearance
[20:50] <mrmonday> Slart, yeah :/
[20:51] <bardyr> what is the best VNC/remote desktop program in ubuntu? i have tried tightvnc but its not very good compered to rdp
[20:51] <mnemonica> STcom: Thank you very much, though.
[20:51] <rain> I am going to away now
[20:51] <Jan`> hihi all
[20:51] <meticulo> rdep beest
[20:51] <STcom> mnemonica: wish I could have been more help
[20:51] <Jan`> we're building a media PC to go by the TV. Is there any software available to record DVB broadcasts using a suitable tuner card?
[20:51] <ping_>  compiz wont run it gives me Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:51] <ping_>  No whitelisted driver found i have an ati 1100
[20:51] <elvys> on system--->Preferences---->appearance
[20:51] <meticulo> try mythtv
[20:51] <Thug-life> !stopspy
[20:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stopspy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <jake_> elvys we tried\
[20:51] <Jan`> mythtv seems kinda overkill
[20:51] <meticulo> ok
[20:52] <meticulo> what else did u have in mind
[20:52] <meticulo> tvtime is nice for viewing tv
[20:52] <meticulo> mplayer u can do a ton with the tv though
[20:52] <Jan`> all I wanted was to be able to do time slip recording
[20:52] <Jan`> like we all used to do on VHS :)
[20:52] <radioaktivstorm> hello, I am having issues with my mime types, for some reason, files saved as application/javascript change mime type to text/x-matlab when i double click on them to open. does anyone have any suggestions?
[20:52] <Dabian> meticulo: But it wont work with many modern cards that has onboard decoders, like PVR-xxx
[20:53] <meticulo> true
[20:53] <Jan`> what I really want to be able to do is to record the DVB mpeg stream, so we can watch it again without recompression.
[20:53] <Gekone> Buonasera a tutti.
[20:53] <Jan`> I don't know if that's normally how it's done, difficult, never-thought-of, or whatever.
[20:53] <meticulo> well i use mplayer and i dump the streams
[20:53] <elvys> rain: do you have beryl on ubuntu?
[20:54] <ping_> hey im having trouble with my compiz it tells me "Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:54] <ping_> No whitelisted driver found
[20:54] <ping_> i have a ati 1100
[20:54] <Jan`> We're not that technical. Is mythtv really hard to set up?
[20:55] <meticulo> no its actaully pretty easy
[20:55] <S2PID> perhaps somebody here knows the easiest way to change my synaptics touchpad settings?
[20:55] <meticulo> just install it in synaptic
[20:55] <meticulo> and it opens a wizard
[20:55] <meticulo> and thats that
[20:55] <Dabian> jan`: Its hard to set up, unless you read the documentation.  I'd say its worth the trouble though.
[20:56] <tifine> any eclipse user ?
[20:56] <meticulo> me
[20:56] <Reilithion> and me
[20:56] <Jan`> In what way is it hard to set up?
[20:56] <tifine> i am using eclipse 3.2.2 , still getting this error "xdoclet:missing ", is their anybody who can help ?
[20:56] <meticulo> its not, to make it easy install all myth packages and mysql packages
[20:56] <meticulo> if u dont then u have to read the manual...
[20:57] <draken> can someone help me, my pc doesnt want to mount my windows drive
[20:57] <Jan`> Aargh, it uses SQL
[20:57] <amonkey> how do i tell nm-applet not to connect to certain networks? or which ones to connect to first? google told me to change a non-existant gconf entry so i'm lost.
[20:57]  * Jan` runs screaming
[20:57] <Reilithion> tifine: when do you get this error?
[20:57] <Dabian> jan: MySQL
[20:57] <draken> can someone help me, my pc doesnt want to mount my windows drive
 now i got it basically created a web-project and got this error message
[20:58] <meticulo> try this in console
[20:58] <meticulo> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -f /dev/harddrivelabel /mountpount
[20:58] <tifine> Reilithion: now i got it basically created a web-project and got this error message
[20:58] <KDuB> meticulo, how do i unmount?
[20:59] <Reilithion> tifine: Try backing up your .eclipse folder and deleting it, then recreate the project.  See if the error still happens.
[21:00] <rain> rain: try to changing the appearance <- where i get it? @ kcontrol?
[21:00] <KDuB> meticulo, how do i unmount?
[21:00] <elvys> rain: do you have Beryl?
[21:01] <elvys> beryl actived?
[21:01] <rain> BerYL?
[21:01] <rain> whats this?
[21:01] <draken> ta metic
[21:01] <draken> umm
[21:01] <rain> i heve to type sudo apt-get install  beryl?
[21:01] <draken> can anyone help me get this ubuntu 3d ?
[21:02] <elvys> on the console, type beryl-manager and See if happen something
[21:02] <tifine> Reilithion: okie i made a backup and delete the .eclipse folder
[21:02] <elvys> rain:  on the console, type beryl-manager and See if happen something
[21:03] <boguh> how can i use a crypted home partition when installing a fresh system with the alternate boot cd?
[21:03] <elvys> rain: when you want to talk to me type "elvys: bla bla bla"
[21:03] <KDuB> meticulo, how do i unmount?
[21:04] <draken> can someone help me get  Compiz Fusion working ?
[21:04] <rain> elvys nothing happens
[21:04] <KDuB> draken,  #compiz-fusion
[21:04] <rain> elvys: beryl-manager
[21:04] <KDuB> they'll get ya going
[21:05] <tifine> Reilithion: i did that but its not giving me an option in eclipse to create a dynamic project !!!
[21:05]  * genii sips a coffee
[21:05] <rencore_> do icons need to be square?
[21:05] <KDuB> Can someone give me the command to unmound my ntfs drive?
[21:06] <zenlunatic> is there an off-topic ubuntu channel to bs in?
[21:06] <rain> rain@rain:~$ X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[21:06] <rain>   Major opcode:  145
[21:06] <rain>   Minor opcode:  3
[21:06] <rain>   Resource id:  0x0
[21:06] <rain> Failed to open device
[21:06] <rain> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[21:06] <rain>   Major opcode:  145
[21:06] <rain>   Minor opcode:  3
[21:06] <rain>   Resource id:  0x0
[21:06] <Randal^> Hi all, brief question, how can I make a network adaptor connect automaticaly on boot?  Thanks, Rob.
[21:06] <rain> Failed to open device
[21:06] <Jan`> ubotu?
[21:06] <tifine> Reilithion: ?
[21:06] <vimalg2> !compiz
[21:07] <phyz> mugatu?
[21:07] <elvys> rain: open synaptic and install Beryl, this would be better
[21:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:07]  * Jan` assumes ubotu is a bot
[21:07] <KDuB> Can someone give me the command to unmound my ntfs drive?
[21:07] <vimalg2> !twitter
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twitter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <KDuB> Can someone give me the command to unmount my ntfs drive?
[21:07] <vimalg2> !libpurple
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libpurple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <Dabian> ubotu: bugs?
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugs? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <vimalg2> !pidgin
[21:07] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[21:07] <Dabian> ubotu, bug
[21:07] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[21:08] <rain> elvys: i cant open it
[21:09] <elvys> why?, don't you find it?
[21:09] <elvys> rain: why?, don't you find it?
[21:09] <Slart> KDuB: sudo umount /mountpoint should work
[21:09] <solo> 中文？
[21:10] <josh__> sup
[21:10] <squarebracket> is there a command to unmount a drive?
[21:10] <Jan`> isn't that just mount -u
[21:10] <|k> umount
[21:11] <ribatejo> hi,
[21:11] <ribatejo> having big problem with printing with gutsy
[21:11] <rain> ok
[21:11] <meticulo> whats the problem
[21:11] <rain> elvys: i have this program running
[21:11] <Slart> Jan`: mount doesn't have a u switch as far as I can see from the man page
[21:12] <elvys> synaptic?
[21:12] <KDuB> hum..
[21:12] <rain> no, beryl
[21:12] <rain> what i do with it?
[21:12] <KDuB> Slart, i was trying to unmount it so i could rename it however that wasnt the case because i still cant rename it even though it was not mounted.
[21:13] <ribatejo> have brother mfc printer 3820cn
[21:13] <elvys> close it, and try to changing themes in emerald manager
[21:13] <ribatejo> the wiz installs the printer cause it finds it on the lan with cups
[21:13] <elvys> rain:  close it, and try to changing themes in emerald manager
[21:13] <squarebracket> neither unmount or mount -u work/exist
[21:13] <qwaz> can cron be used to launch apps?
[21:13] <Slart> KDuB: rename "it"? what is the "it" ? the mountpoint? or you want to rename the drive?
[21:14] <KDuB> i want to rename the driver
[21:14] <KDuB> i want to rename the drive
[21:14] <KDuB> it is currently sda1
[21:14] <rain> elvys: I have running  Beryl maneger,Ii changed themes in emerald mannager, nothing happens
[21:14] <ribatejo> installs with the driver mfc6550mfc which is the same driver I think
[21:14] <genii> device names are not reassignable
[21:14] <Slart> KDuB: hmm.. you are sure you want to rename the drive?? don't think you can do that
[21:14] <ribatejo> I see on the printer "receiving data"
[21:14] <KDuB> just the drive name
[21:14] <KDuB> not the drive itself
[21:14] <ribatejo> but nothing prints...printer is fine, I can print from a windows machine
[21:14] <Slart> KDuB: I think you really want to rename the mountpoint...
[21:15] <DosKey> You might want to run ‘apt-get -f install’ to correct these.
[21:15] <DosKey> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[21:15] <KDuB> ohh
[21:15] <DosKey> I try apt-get -f install
[21:15] <elvys> rain: you should close beryl manager and try with emerald themes
[21:15] <KDuB> ok then yes you're right, Slart
[21:15] <ice109> im having trouble writing an external drive
[21:15] <Slart> KDuB: the mount-point is what you use the use the drive.. the mount point is what shows up in nautilus
[21:15] <DosKey> I even tried emptying the apt cache
[21:15] <ice109> how do i change read/write permission
[21:15] <DosKey> Still no luck.
[21:15] <task0> hello all, im having problems with video playback... playback is not fluid
[21:15] <DosKey> ice109 chmod
[21:15] <ribatejo> i just installed and did an upgrade with 77 packages
[21:15] <rain> i closeb Beryl and selected theme
[21:15] <rain> ,nothing happens
[21:15] <DosKey> Do you have direct rendering enabled?
[21:16] <DosKey> err
[21:16] <Slart> KDuB: and the mountpoint is just a folder.. just like every other folder.. change the name of the folder.. and change the mountpoint accordingly in /etc/fstab or when you mount it
[21:16] <dablueman> hey everybody
[21:16] <DosKey> glxinfo | grep direct
[21:16] <DosKey> @ rain
[21:16] <ribatejo> don't understand much about printing with linux...I think the programmers of cups were smoking soemthing when they did the interface :)
[21:16] <ice109> doskey how can i see all the file flags?
[21:16] <dablueman> ribatejo
[21:16] <rain> yes
[21:16] <ice109> that i change with chmod
[21:16] <KDuB> Slart, how can i mount it back?
[21:16] <dablueman> do u use kde
[21:16] <dablueman> or gnome?
[21:16] <ribatejo> dablueman, yes plz
[21:16] <localgod11> can some one tell me where the pictures folder is located on 6.06 lts?
[21:16] <ice109> doskey like chmod -l or something like that
[21:16] <cod1> hello can anyone help me update ubuntu from7.04 to 7.10?
[21:16] <KDuB>  sudo mount  /dev/sda1 /media/Win[XPro]
[21:17] <ribatejo> no, but before with kde was the same thing
[21:17] <DosKey> I use integers.
[21:17] <dablueman> well u can print over network if u have doze boxes at home
[21:17] <ribatejo> I am using xfce4
[21:17] <dablueman> use kde
[21:17] <ribatejo> I have only three comps
[21:17] <dablueman> why dont u use kde
[21:17] <dablueman> ok
[21:17] <DosKey> I have 1.
[21:17] <dablueman> do u have windows on them
[21:17] <Slart> KDuB: you didn't mount it manually I guess.. then open the file /etc/fstab... (gksu gedit /etc/fstab) and find the line for your drive.. change the mountpoint to whatever you want then just run "mount -a" or perhaps "sudo mount -a"
[21:17] <ribatejo> one mine with linux, my daghter with winslows and my wife
[21:17] <DosKey> Just ordered a x64 athlon
[21:17] <arno-t> Hi I still run 7.04 but want to upgrade to 7.10. Will bad stuff happen to my apache/PHP/mysql etc when I upgrade?
[21:18] <ribatejo> yes, they print fine..I am the crazy one with linux :0
[21:18] <dablueman> does their computer have a printer on it
[21:18] <DosKey>  arno-t: no
[21:18] <dablueman> oh
[21:18] <cod1> hello im getting Authentication failed error when trying to update to 7.10 does anyone know why?
[21:18] <ribatejo> yes, ur saying to print to their printer?
[21:18] <DosKey> Only if you have compiz or beryl on you might.
[21:18] <dablueman> yes
[21:18] <task0> hello all, im having problems with video playback... playback is not fluid, using totem
[21:18] <DosKey> err
[21:18] <rain> Emerald-maneger  <<-- i cant apply themes, If beryl mannager runs or not it dont matter
[21:18] <DosKey> cod1
[21:18] <DosKey> Just do
[21:18] <dablueman> use vlc dude
[21:18] <DosKey> apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:18] <cod1> DosKey: yes?
[21:18] <DosKey> in su -
[21:18] <dablueman> don't use that totem crapola
[21:19] <ribatejo> cool..I never tried that..will try...everytime I wanted to print directly to be independent
[21:19] <rain> so
[21:19] <dablueman> ribatejo
[21:19] <dablueman> hold on
[21:19] <KDuB> thank you Slart i changed the name
[21:19] <rain> how i apply new emerald?
[21:19] <KDuB> so i now i just have to reboot im guessing for it to show up now
[21:19] <ribatejo> maybe if it worx I can try to pinpoint the problem
[21:19] <Slart> KDuB: now rename the folder too and you should be set.. no you don't have to reboot
[21:19] <DosKey> err apt-get remove emerald* && apt-get -y install emerald*
[21:19] <rain> elvys:Emerald-maneger  <<-- i cant apply themes, If beryl mannager runs or not it dont matter
[21:19] <ribatejo> what I am looking for to roubleshoot printing? where are the logs?
[21:19] <DosKey> err apt-get remove emerald* && apt-get -y install emerald*
[21:19] <KDuB> Slart, where do i go to access the boot menu?
[21:20] <localgod11> is there a support chanel for 6.06 lts?
[21:20] <dablueman> ribatejo u can network print
[21:20] <Slart> KDuB: just run that command.. "mount -a" or "sudo mount -a"
[21:20] <DosKey> su - > sudo
[21:20] <dablueman> go to ur windows box and share the printer on the network to every computer on your network
[21:20] <bluefoxx> whats the oldest system ubuntu would still work with?
[21:20] <DosKey> bluefoxx, very old box
[21:20] <elvys> rain: The window manager from Beryl is interferering with emerald themes manager
[21:21] <dablueman> then go to the kde control panel in file share and it will find your comp
[21:21] <ribatejo> dablueman: I never tried that but will give it a go...qand samba is enabled by default on gutsy?
[21:21] <bluefoxx> like, say a socket 7 p1?
[21:21] <dablueman> don't know
[21:21] <DosKey> :S
[21:21] <Slart> bluefoxx: I've used it on a pentium 2 machine.. worked nicely
[21:21] <DosKey> You could configure it to i suppose...
[21:21] <elvys> rain: The window manager from Beryl is interfering with emerald themes manager
[21:21] <dablueman> u'll have to tinker around
[21:21] <rain> elvys: so what i donow?
[21:21] <dablueman> it is just clicking with kde
[21:21] <cod1> DosKey: its not working
[21:21] <DosKey> elvys
[21:21] <DosKey> gtk window manager
[21:21] <ribatejo> ok..tx ..will give it a go..:0
[21:21] <DosKey> is the default windows manager
[21:21] <dablueman> i didn't have to use the cli to set up printing with my machinge
[21:21] <rain> elvys: so what i do now?*
[21:22] <DosKey> err
[21:22] <DosKey> Right click on the dimond
[21:22] <ribatejo> yeah, what do you have? hp?
[21:22] <DosKey> and go down to change windows manager]
[21:22] <ribatejo> hp seems to work fine with linux
[21:22] <dablueman> yeh
[21:22] <DosKey> then change it to emerald
[21:22] <bluefoxx> im thinking of building another computer from "trash" parts, i want to know what i WILL need, i have loads of old ram lying around, and a few socket 7 p1s
[21:22] <dablueman> id doesn't matter what printer the windows computer has
[21:22] <ribatejo> I didn't do my homework with brother, dumbass......
[21:22] <smokie> ok i am new at this but i have using ubunetu and i have a ilo mp3 and i need to reformat it to fat 16 anyone here know how to
[21:22] <elvys> rain: You should pay attention to Doskey
[21:22] <localgod11> can someone tell me abut the LTS? i have a stupoid question
[21:22] <dablueman> p1's!
[21:23] <DosKey> :P
[21:23] <mmschnei>  hello, I am trying to use gnome's sound-juicer to rip some CD's to MP3's but I cannot seem to get the MP3 formats to come up as a selection to use. I currently can only use FLAC. I am able to edit their properties and they are checked as "active" but I am unable to select them. Anyone have any ideas why?  LAME is installed
[21:23] <dablueman> omg u still have p1's
[21:23] <bluefoxx> i need one to tutor my grandfather with, monkey see monkey do style, lol
[21:23] <bluefoxx> yea
[21:23] <ribatejo> sorry, i am frustrated
[21:23] <elvys> that's true
[21:23] <dablueman> its not working
[21:23] <bluefoxx> and 30 pin SIMM ram sticks
[21:23] <ribatejo> have been fideling with this for two days now
[21:23] <arno-t> DosKey, that was good. So all data are retained?
[21:23] <dablueman> wow
[21:23] <DosKey> Yeah.
[21:23] <dablueman> dude u need to upgrade
[21:23] <bluefoxx> lol
[21:23] <arno-t> thanks
[21:23] <dablueman> 133mhz
[21:24] <DosKey> Only if you don't have beryl or compiz
[21:24] <dablueman> lol
[21:24] <DosKey> :P
[21:24] <mmschnei> I'm working ona P1 box right now =)
[21:24] <KDuB> Slart, thank you for helping with mount.. i made a dummy,txt lol
[21:24] <DosKey> Nobother :P
[21:24] <cod1> So anyone know why i cant upgrade my distro?
[21:24] <DosKey> *No bother :P
[21:24] <bluefoxx> im using them as "heatspreaders" for my cdburner, lol
[21:24] <Slart> localgod11: what do you want to know about LTS?
[21:24] <DosKey> cod1
[21:24] <DosKey> Did you do
[21:24] <dablueman> what are u trying to upgrade
[21:24] <Slart> KDuB: you're welcome
[21:24] <DosKey> apt-get dust-upgrade
[21:24] <dablueman> oh
[21:24] <DosKey> In terminal
[21:24] <DosKey> *apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:24] <DosKey> lol
[21:24] <cod1> yes i did DosKey
[21:24] <DosKey> What's the error?
[21:24] <cod1> DosKey: i do it again
[21:25] <DosKey> Yeah.
[21:25] <KDuB> Can someone  help me locate the boot menu file so i can rename my other partition.
[21:25] <DosKey> Paste the error
[21:25] <rain> elvys: I didnt understood what you wanted to say with your last message
[21:25] <g00se> I'm a noob in multimedia. What can you used for mpg files in Gutsy?
[21:25] <DosKey> KDuB, /boot
[21:25] <dablueman> kDub its supposed to be in /boot
[21:25] <Slart> g00se: vlc
[21:25] <smokie> ok i am new at this but i have using ubunetu and i have a ilo mp3 and i need to reformat it to fat 16 anyone here know how to
[21:25] <g00se> Slart: Thanks
[21:25] <magnetron> !codec | g00se
[21:25] <ubotu> g00se: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:25] <dablueman> fat16
[21:25] <Slart> KDuB: check out /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:25] <elvys> rain: right click on the diamond
[21:25] <adorablepuppy> I have apache2 and my httpd.conf file is blank. How can I restore it with apt?
[21:25] <randoman_> hey guys does anyone know why firestarter keeps on turning on the firewall when i stop it?
[21:25] <DosKey> i already told him
[21:26] <dablueman> why u wanna use fat16, how bout fat32
[21:26] <randoman_> ?
[21:26] <dablueman> randoman, it has a script to start it
[21:26] <rain> elvys: which one? red or green?
[21:26] <g00se> Yep, i don't feel good about using mpg but ...
[21:26] <dablueman> start up script
[21:26] <DosKey> red
[21:26] <Slart> randoman_: firestarter is just a gui for the built-in firewall.. iptables.. and even if you stop firestarter, iptables is still configured..
[21:26] <DosKey> On the top right
[21:26] <KDuB> Slart, thank you yet again!! you the mann!!
[21:26] <DosKey> Then go down to windows manager
[21:26] <randoman_> yes i get that
[21:26] <AndyR> hi all
[21:26] <DosKey> Then change it to emerald.
[21:27] <elvys> there is a member named Doskey, he's saying what should do
[21:27] <smokie> dablueman it will tell me it has to be in fat 16 or it shuts off
[21:27] <DosKey> lol :P
[21:27] <dablueman> firestarter creates it's own setup script name 'firestarter'
[21:27] <elvys> rain: there is a member named Doskey, he's saying what should do
[21:27] <randoman_> but for some reason when i disable the firewall, it some how gets activated again
[21:27] <dablueman> are u in gutsy
[21:27] <elvys> I mean this
[21:27] <dablueman> how u know it gets activated again
[21:27] <cod1> DosKey: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:27] <DosKey> The line before that
[21:28] <DosKey> And the line before that
[21:28] <DosKey> lol
[21:28] <DosKey> paste !
[21:28] <cod1> huh
[21:28] <AndyR> has anyone else seem poor performance using gutsy on laptops with ati graphics?
[21:28] <dablueman> randoman, how do u know that the firewall is activated?
[21:28] <DosKey> ati sucks
[21:28] <elvys> there is a member named Doskey, he's saying what you should do
[21:28] <cod1> yea
[21:28] <dablueman> ati doesn't suk
[21:28] <randoman_> well I think I fixed it
[21:28] <scguy318> AndyR: uhm, me, ATI drivers suck in general
[21:28] <Slart> AndyR: I think everyone has had some kind of problem using ati.. yes =)
[21:28] <elvys> rain: there is a member named Doskey, he's saying what you should do
[21:29] <randoman_> I had to turn off " activate firewall everytime firestarter is run"
[21:29] <scguy318> dablueman: ATI's drivers have been horrible for so long...
[21:29] <KDuB> Slart, if you could help me with one more thing?
[21:29] <Slart> KDuB: sure
[21:29] <dablueman> oh, well we know nvidia is purfect ;-)
[21:29] <DosKey> nVidia > ati
[21:29] <rain> i did right clock, what now?
[21:29] <Slart> ati might get better though.. with their open source thingy
[21:29] <elvys> rain: You should read last messages from him
[21:29] <KDuB> How can i add apps to startup so when i boot up these apps will auto load such as "firestarter"
[21:29] <DosKey> Go down to windows manager
[21:29] <tripzero> has anyone totally screwed up their system by installing nvidia-settings?
[21:29] <DosKey> Then click on emeerald to change the windows manager to emerald
[21:29] <pablin> how to install xfi drivers in ubuntu 7.10 64 bits
[21:29] <pablin> help
[21:29] <DosKey> *emerald
[21:30] <AndyR> 7.04 worked fine on my wifes dell inspiron 9300 but 7.10 is unusable
[21:30] <rain> i lost them
[21:30] <dablueman> hey randoman private chat
[21:30] <DosKey> 'You lost them'?
[21:30] <DJSliderz> hi all
[21:30] <scguy318> AndyR: stick with 7.04 if it works great for you
[21:30] <Slart> KDuB: if you want stuff to start at boot.. look into /etc/init.d .. if you want stuff to start when you log into gnome/KDE check out "system, administraton, session".. might be in "system, preferences, session" too.. can't remember
[21:30] <elvys> lol :-)
[21:30] <rain> i clock on emarald
[21:30] <smokie> ok i am new at this but i have using ubunetu and i have a ilo mp3 and i need to reformat it to fat 16 anyone here know how to
[21:30] <rain> and what now?
[21:31] <DosKey> Right click on the emerald again
[21:31] <DJSliderz> hey the new version7.10
[21:31] <DosKey> Then click on
[21:31] <rain> i got menu at red emerald
[21:31] <Dabian> OK .. turns out the bugs are at http://bugs.launchpad.net and there is a workaround in the bugreport for the bug I encountered. :)
[21:31] <Slart> KDuB: but I think firestarter has some settings of it's own.. isn't autostart one of them?
[21:31] <AndyR> scguy318, its a bit late for that without doing another clean install
[21:31] <DosKey> Then click on reload windows manager
[21:31] <rain> i get some kind of menu every time i click there
[21:31] <KDuB> Slart, thanks man!
[21:31] <elvys> DosKey: I think that he doesn't have Beryl
[21:31] <DJSliderz> dose puting the iso on a rw affect the way it runs
[21:31] <Slart> KDuB: you're welcome
[21:31] <DosKey> :S
[21:31] <DosKey> That's helpfull...
[21:32] <rain> i reloaded it
[21:32] <rain> nothing happens
[21:32] <elvys> DosKey: I'm seeing a screenshot of his desktop
[21:32] <dablueman> randoman
[21:32] <adorablepuppy> Anybody know how I can restore my apache2 httpd.conf to the default settings? It's blank.
[21:32] <DosKey> show me
[21:32] <DosKey> pm
[21:32] <dablueman> i am iming u
[21:32] <DJSliderz> because the 7.10 version seams to take 20 min to load on my laptop and i dont know why
[21:32] <dablueman> smokie
[21:33] <elvys> DosKey: check it: http://autoit.pri.ee/emerald.png
[21:33] <Slart> adorablepuppy: I think it's supposed to be.. almost empty
[21:33] <dablueman> i am iming u
[21:33] <dablueman> smokie
[21:33] <rain> I am Away From Keyboard now
[21:33] <Slart> adorablepuppy: settings are in apache.conf or in one of the folders in the same place as apache.conf
[21:33] <smokie> dablueman yes
[21:33] <adorablepuppy> Slart: What? when did that move?
[21:33] <DosKey> DJSliderzUnless he's running it as a service he doesn't have it...
[21:33] <Slart> adorablepuppy: but I can paste the contents of my httpd.conf if you want
[21:33] <dablueman> i said look in ur private chat
[21:33] <DosKey> shit
[21:33] <DosKey> I mean
[21:34] <dablueman> can u see me,
[21:34] <DosKey> *Unless he's running it as a service he doesn't have it...
[21:34] <DosKey> lol
[21:34] <smokie> yes
[21:34] <DosKey> Yes i can...
[21:34] <squarebracket> anyone know how to route sound to my client computer using VNC over SSH?
[21:34] <Lounge> having a problem with firestarter - it's not opening ports they're still stealthed
[21:34] <Dabian> DosKey: Please moderate your language, you brute!
[21:34] <dablueman> are u using piding
[21:34] <Slart> adorablepuppy: I don't know when it changed..
[21:34] <adorablepuppy>  Slart: Sure, mines not processing php files and I don't got anything to go from.
[21:34] <rain> u can post ur ansvwer here http://autoit.pri.ee/foorum/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=c2ba18d3d27657e81c05cbe81aa368fb
[21:34] <DosKey> Sorry !?
[21:34] <DosKey> lol
[21:34] <`m0> Hey say I forgot to partion my harddrive, and I want to install Ubuntu on my machine ...
[21:34] <`m0> Did anyone install Partition Magic?
[21:34] <rain> AFK
[21:34] <DosKey> ......
[21:34] <DosKey> rain
[21:34] <DosKey> You don't have beryl running
[21:35] <cod1> DosKey: i know your buzy but this isent working
[21:35] <genii> gparted > Partition Magic
[21:35] <DosKey> :S
[21:35] <DosKey> PM all output from the error
[21:35] <dablueman> hey smokie, why are u ignoring me
[21:35] <elvys> rain: I suggest you to install beryl, You should search a tutorial of that on internet
[21:35] <Slart> adorablepuppy: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2592/ contents of my httpd.conf.. for apache2
[21:35] <dablueman> im trying to help u out
[21:35] <`m0> I would like to install Ubuntu
[21:35] <smokie2008> dab look in pm
[21:36] <DosKey> `m0
[21:36] <`m0> but I have windwos vista on this main machine
[21:36] <DosKey> and....
[21:36] <`m0> I don't want to reformat
[21:36] <DosKey> Vista suck
[21:36] <DosKey> s
[21:36] <Slart> adorablepuppy: but there's a conf.d folder in the same place.. check in that...
[21:36] <DosKey> You don't have to
[21:36] <DJSliderz> doskey
[21:36] <DosKey> You can resize your windows partition
[21:36] <dug_> how do you get the cube to work, i have it enabled in the preferences, windows-E just shows the wall of desktops (just 2 even though I have more desktop workspaces)
[21:36] <`m0> DosKey: No it doesn't it is good, I have SP1 and many issues fixed
[21:36] <elvys> rain: you have a big problem without that
[21:36] <DosKey> `m0.....
[21:36] <smokie2008> dablueman  look at your msg i sent you
[21:36] <DosKey> Get out.
[21:36] <`m0> How Can I resize my windows Partition ?
[21:36] <DosKey> lol
[21:36] <DosKey> XD
[21:36] <DosKey> <3
[21:36] <`m0> You don't have to hate on Windows to like Linux :)
[21:36] <erUSUL> !gparted | `m0
[21:36] <ubotu> `m0: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[21:36] <DosKey> Go to install ubuntu
[21:37] <DJSliderz> anyone help me hear
[21:37] <erUSUL> !enter | DosKey
[21:37] <ubotu> DosKey: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:37] <DosKey> It asks you if you want to resize windows when you go to install it.
[21:37] <`m0> erUSUL: I have Windows at the beginning not Linux
[21:37] <dug_> `m0: try Wubi, you can install from inside windows without repartitioning
[21:37] <DJSliderz> the 7.10 version takes 20 mins to load on my laptop
[21:37] <DJSliderz> HELP?
[21:37] <erUSUL> `m0: resize during install
[21:37] <elvys> DosKey: I guess that he loves Windows, lol :-)
[21:37] <`m0> erUSUL: I could do that?
[21:37] <Lounge> having a problem with firestarter - it's not opening ports they're still stealthed
[21:37] <`m0> nice
[21:37] <miles8> Hi all, trying to install this game but it mounts only the os x folder and doesn't show the window exe... Anyone know how I should mount it so I can see the installer.exe ?
[21:37] <DosKey> `m0
[21:37] <erUSUL> `m0: sure
[21:37] <DosKey> Just resize windows...
[21:37] <DosKey> Easier.
[21:37] <adorablepuppy> Thanks slart.
[21:38] <genii> `m0: The ubuntu installer has parition program gparted which you can resize whatever partitons you have, so long as they are marked clean
[21:38] <Slart> adorablepuppy: did you find anything?
[21:38] <`m0> What do you recommend as an initial size? wow I have 35GB free
[21:38] <cod1> !pastebin cod1
[21:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin cod1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:38] <`m0> Games take too much space :)
[21:38] <`m0> 12GB each
[21:38] <dug_> how do you get the cube to work, i have it enabled in the preferences, windows-E just shows the wall of desktops (just 2 even though I have more desktop workspaces)
[21:38] <cod1> pastebin anyone?
[21:38] <erUSUL> !àste
[21:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:38] <DosKey> dug_
[21:38] <erUSUL> !pste
[21:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:38] <dug_> !paste
[21:38] <cod1> !paste
[21:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:38] <`m0> genii: I can resize any drive or only the root drive?
[21:38] <DosKey> Right click on the four desktops default on the botton left
[21:38] <ribatejo> what si the uri of a printer on winslows? smb/machinename/printername?
[21:38] <DosKey> and change both to 4
[21:38] <DosKey> err
[21:39] <genii> `m0: Any drive
[21:39] <DosKey> The number of desktops
[21:39] <rmaj> hello, is route/iptables fucked up in latest 7.10 amd64?
[21:39] <Slart> ribatejo: looks ok to me..
[21:39] <jkielhor> no
[21:39] <DosKey> rmaj, nope
[21:39] <omnId> Hello all, I'm a newbie trying to set up my dialup modem.  Ran scanModem, installed the kernel module, but I can't connect.  Long version here: http://rafb.net/p/Cm9zfH61.html
[21:39] <`m0> genii: I have ubuntu on my laptop(s) but how much space does it need ? after install?
[21:39] <rmaj> then why it doesnt work
[21:39] <aro> !language
[21:39] <Slart> ribatejo: or.. wait.. on windows you have those \\machinename\printername
[21:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:39] <erUSUL> rmaj: no that i know of
[21:39] <rmaj> I changed nothing and amd64 7.10 stoped connecting to network
[21:39] <`m0> For my desktop
[21:40] <DosKey> bah
[21:40] <elvys> DosKey: have ever installed AWN?
[21:40]  * DosKey is getting back to Linux'ing
[21:40] <DosKey> Yup
[21:40] <genii> `m0: About 2.6Gb, then you likely want also a swap partition of your ram size
[21:40] <rmaj> dhclient dets correct IP,  but any ping or connection says that network in unreachable;  route shows that I have no routing entires.
[21:40] <DosKey> kiba-dock is better than awn
[21:40] <ribatejo> slart: yeah..slah forward or backwords..don't remember...
[21:40] <DosKey> ;)
[21:40] <cM0ss> Any one getting firehol errors durning update?
[21:40] <ribatejo> slash
[21:40] <dug_> DosKey: where are you saying i should right click?  in the appearance control panel?  desktop?
[21:40] <Slart>  ribatejo: I think backslash..  it's been a while since I used it =)
[21:40] <`m0> genii: swap partition ram? Why
[21:41] <DosKey> On the Desktop changer, which is default on the bottom left
[21:41] <DosKey> err
[21:41] <DosKey> I mean right
[21:41] <DosKey> On the bottom right
[21:41] <DosKey> lol
[21:41] <DosKey> anyways
[21:41] <simion314> hi, can i use debian packages or debian repositories?
[21:41]  * DosKey has some coding to do
[21:41] <elvys> DosKey: Kiba-dock works slowly in my computer, AWN works more faster than kiba-dock
[21:41] <PriceChild> !debian | simion314
[21:41] <ubotu> simion314: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[21:41] <genii> `m0: 4Gb-8Gb is lots of room for installing a lot of packages,etc. When you hibernate the contents of ram are stored to swap. swap smallr than ram, problems
[21:41] <rmaj> network stoped working on ubuntu:  dhclient dets correct IP,  but any ping or connection says that network in unreachable;  route shows that I have no routing entires.
[21:41] <erUSUL> cM0ss: well firehol has been broken for a long time until recently... i think that finally a good version ended up in proposed or basckports or something let me check
[21:41] <dug_> DosKey: I can right click that, then go to preferences, and change the number of columns and rows
[21:42] <Lounge> having a problem with firestarter - it's not opening ports they're still stealthed
[21:42] <smokie2008> dabluman you still here
[21:42] <omnId> is anyone reading the paste I linked?  I know it's a long read :)
[21:42] <`m0> genii: I have 4GB's of Ram, and quad core , and 8800 640MB video
[21:42] <`m0> Alright
[21:42] <erUSUL> cM0ss: in updates
[21:42] <`m0> do I need to install 64bit version to have 4GB of ram?
[21:42] <erUSUL> cM0ss: for gutsy
[21:42] <DosKey> There is no need for quad-core....
[21:42] <DosKey> Just puts the coders under pressure.
[21:43] <`m0> DosKey: there will be 64 cores in 10 years
[21:43] <filleokus> Hi lads.
[21:43] <cod1> DosKey: http://paste.ubutnu-nl.org/47602
[21:43] <rmaj> DosKey: ya, shure
[21:43] <erUSUL> `m0: yes, the default 32 bit desktop kernel doesn't support 4GB afaik
[21:43] <`m0> DosKey: according to the seminar (known person) conducted
[21:43] <DosKey> `m0.... all software will have to be totally reprogrammed...
[21:43] <rmaj> can any one help me to have network on stupid ubuntu?
[21:43] <genii> `m0: No, i386 will be fine. If you exceed 4Gb ram then server kernel or PAE enabled kernel. But 4Gb or under regular kernel is fine
[21:43] <cod1> http://paste.ubutntu-nl.org/47602
[21:43] <DosKey> There isn't enought time.
[21:43]  * DosKey is looking
[21:43] <genii> erUSUL: It supports 4Gb fine
[21:43] <`m0> genii: but remember I have 4GB of ram + 640MB of video ram
[21:43] <erisco> anyone here successfully installed fretsonfire?
[21:44] <rmaj> DosKey: some things are easly parralelizable
[21:44] <DosKey> Firefox can't find the server at paste.ubutnu-nl.org.
[21:44] <filleokus> If i have a disk (250gig) with a NTFS storage partion that takes up like the whole disk and is almost full and i want to smash it together with my linux partion, can i do that with out any data loss?
[21:44] <`m0> genii: So I need 4.64 GB of ram on the buss
[21:44] <cod1> i relinked it
[21:44] <rmaj> can any one help me to have network on stupid ubuntu?
[21:44] <DosKey> .....
[21:44] <DosKey> Firefox can't find the server at paste.ubutnu-nl.org.
[21:44] <cM0ss> erSUL: I'm running 7.10 but on all the last updates for Ubuntu from 6.10 and up I am getting this error about firehol...I use firestarter for my firewall but firehol errors keep coming up.
[21:44] <enyc> genii: hrrm i dont normally see any machines with x86 arch with over 4gb ...  but i guess some poeple run a x86-64 with lots of ram
[21:44] <DosKey> err
[21:44] <cod1> DosKey:http://paste.ubutntu-nl.org/47602
[21:44] <enyc> genii: and run it 32bit mode for some reason
[21:44] <rmaj> help help
[21:44] <`m0> genii: In windows, they made it 3.3GB cause of video card
[21:44] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: is the disk that full?.. if so, i'd say its very unlikely
[21:44] <erUSUL> genii: thank you... i stan corrected (i've heard users here complining about missing memory so...)
[21:44] <DosKey> Programs need to be specifically writtin to deal with dual core, never mind quad core.
[21:44] <erisco> anyone here successfully installed fretsonfire?
[21:44] <Slart> rmaj: sorry.. we don't do stupid-ubuntu here.. try regular ubuntu instead ;)
[21:45] <erUSUL> cM0ss: if you do not use firehol uninstall it
[21:45] <ho0ks> rmaj you installed samba?
[21:45] <drgeb> Any one know how to fix login to windowmanager when I log in immediately the windowmanager kicks me out and restartsx This did not happen before with feisty
[21:45] <rmaj> ho0ks: no
[21:45] <DosKey> Only some programs can use dual with using it's full potencial.
[21:45] <rmaj> I think route is broken
[21:45] <drgeb> now I am running gutsy
[21:45] <ho0ks> sudo aptitude install samba
[21:45] <Lounge> having a problem with firestarter - it's not opening ports they're still stealthed
[21:45] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: wait, i just re-read that, how much of the 250gigs, is actually in use w/ data on it?
[21:45] <DosKey> Firefox can't find the server at paste.ubutnu-nl.org.
[21:45] <DosKey> Firefox can't find the server at paste.ubutnu-nl.org.
[21:45] <`m0> My Ubuntu Laptop been up for 50 days now :p
[21:45] <genii> `m0: Install the 32 version, if it doesn't see all your ram plus video ram consider changing
[21:45] <cod1> wa?
[21:45] <DosKey> Stuff it
[21:45] <`m0> genii: Are there 64bit driver problems  in Linux?
[21:45] <rmaj> this channel is not so helpfull
[21:46] <Dos[BusY]> `m0 yes
[21:46] <Slart> rmaj: but seriously.. I don't know why you can't ping stuff on the network.. I've never had an empty routing table.. are the interfaces up?
[21:46] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: the linux partion is almoust empty, but the ntfs partion is full, and that's the largest one, so i would say like 90% of the disk
[21:46] <rmaj> I have simple proboblem and noone helps
[21:46] <genii> `m0: the 64 bit version is not as stable as the 32 bit, yes
[21:46] <Dos[BusY]> rmaj, with what?
[21:46] <MasterShrek> Dos[BusY], name one
[21:46] <`m0> Dos[BusY]: Where can I find the known ones?
[21:46] <MasterShrek> genii, why not?
[21:46] <rmaj> Slart: yes, I think they brok route in latest upgrade
[21:46] <cod1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47602
[21:46] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: so what are you wanting to do, expand the NTFS partition?
[21:46] <cod1> there DosKey
[21:46] <rmaj> Dos[BusY]: my routing table ($ route) is empty, and I can't add anything to it! wtf?!
[21:46] <MasterShrek> `m0, good luck finding them, thats untrue
[21:46] <Slart> rmaj: I use gutsy.. and I don't have any network problems..
[21:46] <Dos[BusY]> err
[21:46] <genii> MasterShrek: Because the apps you run also need to be compiled specifically for 64 bit
[21:46] <Dos[BusY]> rt5*
[21:46] <Dos[BusY]> Something
[21:47] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: convert the ntfs partion to ext3 and smash it together with my current linux partion
[21:47] <Dos[BusY]> Can't remember specifics.
[21:47] <Slart> rmaj: are your networkinterfaces "up" ?
[21:47] <IndyGunFreak> !attitude | rmaj
[21:47] <ubotu> rmaj: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:47] <Slart> rmaj: sudo ifup ethX... change X to something
[21:47] <Dos[BusY]> apt-get autoclean
[21:47] <MasterShrek> genii, i havent found any so far, besides the obvious flash and java plugins
[21:47] <Dos[BusY]> apt-get autoremove
[21:47] <rmaj> Slart: it works, but routing table remains empty
[21:47] <ribatejo> man, want tp install opera...can't find it in the list by search by name...
[21:47] <cod1> Dos me?>
[21:47] <`m0> genii: Can I find any people who have similar configuration as me? 4GB / 8800 GPU / QUAD CORE
[21:47] <ribatejo> changed names like pidgin?
[21:47] <ribatejo> :)
[21:47] <Dos[BusY]> yeah :P
[21:48] <cod1> lol mk
[21:48] <varaonaid> I'm new to using gnome and I want to add a new theme.  how do I know what type to use, compiz, metacity, gtk?
[21:48] <smokie2008> ok i am new at this but i have using ubunetu and i have a ilo mp3 and i need to reformat it to fat 16 anyone here know how to
[21:48] <`m0> varaonaid: USe Emerald
[21:48] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: you're not making any sense.. when you say smash them together, do you want to expand the ntfs and decrease ext3, or expand ext3, and decrease ntfs?
[21:48] <genii> MasterShrek: Lucky :)
[21:48] <`m0> varaonaid: Emerald is a theme manager
[21:48] <drgeb> anyone running gutsy with nvidia and amd64 ?
[21:48] <Dos[BusY]> I might downgrade to feisty.
[21:48] <Dabian> m0: I have 4GB .. but only 7900GTX and Dualcore AMD64 6000+
[21:48] <omnId> can I have some help setting up my dialup modem?  I've installed a kernel module, and I can hear the modem dial, but it doesn't connect.  Long story here: http://rafb.net/p/Cm9zfH61.html
[21:48] <Dos[BusY]> err
[21:48] <Dos[BusY]> I AM
[21:48] <scott_> hh
[21:48] <Slart> drgeb: I am
[21:48] <genii> `m0: You might search the forums
[21:48] <Tyczek> hi there... is there anybody with catalyst 7.11 and can switch between laptop lcd/crt monitor?
[21:48] <Dos[BusY]> drgeb, i am
[21:49] <drgeb> Slart I am having some much trouble with video and window manager
[21:49] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: Hmm. I want ONE whole partion all over the disk and i want this whole partion to be ext3.
[21:49] <cod1> hay Dos i get the same thing
[21:49] <Slart> drgeb: what kind of problems
[21:49] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: ok, that makes more sense, are you wanting to do away w/ windows?
[21:49] <varaonaid> `m0: ok, can I get themes online for that?  i've been looking at gnome-look.org's themes
[21:50] <varaonaid> `m0: (btw, thanks for replying :) )
[21:50] <drgeb> Slart when I attemmpt to login I am kicked out and the windowmanager reboots
[21:50] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: yep, when i first installed my htpc/server i reserved like 20 gig for a future linux install and used the rest to windows and storage.
[21:50] <Slart> drgeb: anything in the logs? "tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog"
[21:51] <Bawbatos> question - is this a good place to ask about an xorg issue on ubuntu?
[21:51] <MasterShrek> Bawbatos, yes
[21:51] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: but now i have switched over to ubuntu and want to get a whole linux partion.
[21:51] <`m0> varaonaid: Yea you can but emerald works best with compiz-fusion
[21:51] <`m0> Ahh.. Now I have like 4 computers next to me in my bedroom
[21:51] <ho0ks> lol
[21:51] <`m0> Yea Microsoft gave me a laptop :)
[21:51] <kiiz> please will some one explain the dependencies stated in packages.ubuntu.com.i am new to all this.i don't have an internet connection and have to download packges manually
[21:51] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: i see.., well, the *easiest* thing to do, would be to back up important files, and do a clean install of Ubuntu... and just tell it to takeover the whole drive.
[21:51] <drgeb> Slart I did grep EE /var/log/Xorg.o.log has nothing
[21:51] <MasterShrek> do you run linux on it?
[21:52] <MasterShrek> =P
[21:52] <varaonaid> `m0: ok, thank you.  where in ubuntu do I access the emerald settings?
[21:52] <`m0> I have 2 laptops and 2 pc, one of the laptops have Ubuntu
[21:52] <aladdinsane> why doesn't my second internal hd show up in my applications like gimp/OOo/Nautilus/etc but does so in Thunar? And no, its not in fstab, if i put it there i have to define it as a folder, which i dont want.My guess is that my user dont have the privileges, can i somehow set them with chown chmod?
[21:52] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: perhaps i need to bring a external hdd and copy my ntfs data on to it, delete the ntfs partion, extend the ext3 and copy the data from the external back on to the big new one.
[21:52] <Slart> drgeb: and the syslog?
[21:52] <tomd123> `m0: extreme pr0ning :P
[21:52] <drgeb> Slart I did grep WW /var/log/Xorg.o.log I see "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1"
[21:52] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: yeah, you could try that, but i think you'll run into grub issues.
[21:52] <drgeb> Slart let me check syslog
[21:53] <`m0> The other laptop is a tablet that msft gave me , there isn't good support for tablets in linux community as well as windows so I left it as windows
[21:53] <`m0> And hopefully, my two pc's will be ubuntu :)
[21:53] <`m0> Oe of them is debian
[21:53] <Slart> drgeb: that happens.. the EDID thingy... keep looking
[21:53] <rmaj> my network doesnt work... simple DHCP network, worked always... anybody can help?
[21:53] <tomd123> `m0, thats fine, I wonder how big your electric bill is though :)
[21:53] <ho0ks> One mac, 3,pc with windows and this baby running ubuntu :)
[21:53] <`m0> tomd123: free in the building :)
[21:54] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: okey, ll try to o give it a shot later on. do you know by the way if ext3 suports extensions (if it likes to be extended)
[21:54]  * tomd123 suddenly feels jealous
[21:54] <`m0> tomd123: 5 computers running 24/7
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> !doesntwork
[21:54] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> filleokus: not real sure...
[21:54] <Tyczek> me has 3 comps... 2 laptops... 1 PC
[21:54] <`m0> When I did the lan party, http://www.campusinteractive.com/gallery/lanopolis4/ubuntu
[21:54] <fitztrev> Have there been any advancements to get Compiz working over two monitors?
[21:54] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: okey, but thank you so much for your time and help :)
[21:55] <`m0> Me has 2 laptops, 2 pc's in my bedroom. And 1 pc in the living room
[21:55] <rmaj> my network doest work (routing table is always empty, even after route add default dev eth0) ... simple DHCP network, worked always... anybody can help?
[21:55] <IndyGunFreak> np, ... it might be easiest to just reinstall.
[21:55] <caandw4> new to ubuntu... where can I get some help
[21:55] <filleokus> IndyGunFreak: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screens/gparted_10_big.jpg :)
[21:55] <`m0> Ubuntu is great on my laptop, I just hate the ubdates it does all the time. I wish it was automatic updates
[21:56] <rmaj> my network doest work (routing table is always empty, even after route add default dev eth0) ... simple DHCP network, worked always... anybody can help?
[21:56] <`m0> I wish ubuntu could download updates automatically and ask me to install/or does it auto
[21:56] <drgeb> Slart tons of messages with "
[21:56] <drgeb>  type=1504 operation="ptrace" task=6943 parent=6946 pid=6946
[21:56] <drgeb>  profile="/usr/sbin/nscd
[21:56] <erUSUL> caandw4: hekp.ubuntu.com ?? here??
[21:56] <fitztrev> `m0: ubuntu can do auto updates and install them automatically
[21:56] <Bawbatos> very simple issue, i thought however i have not been able to fix it. i have a wide screen lcd, display is 1680x1050. xorg cfgs for 1600x1200 which looks like crap. i edited the xorg.conf file and removed the everything res wise just putting in 1680x1050 however it is ignored and just comes up at 1600x1200
[21:56] <`m0> fitztrev: can you tell me how?
[21:56] <rmaj> `m0: I think it can, theres small util for gnome desktop in example
[21:56] <Tyczek> hmm... i have ndiswrapper with 64 atheros ar5007eg. Ndiswrapper works good.... I can see my network (it's not encrypte) and i Can't connect... It worked only 2 times with luck...
[21:56] <IndyGunFreak> `m0: well, they are automatic, they come up, and yuou click install.
[21:56] <drgeb> Slart is there a place on web where I can post the syslog so you can see it ?
[21:56] <MasterShrek> `m0, right click your update manager
[21:56] <Tyczek> can it be dhcp issue?
[21:56] <erUSUL> rmaj: sudo dhclient iface shows any error?
[21:56] <Slart> !paste | drgeb
[21:56] <ubotu> drgeb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:57] <ho0ks> mine does every morning
[21:57] <ho0ks> most anyways
[21:57] <IndyGunFreak> fitztrev: id be interested in hearing how to do that also.
[21:57] <rmaj> erUSUL: nope, it works correctly - obtains a valid address from DHCP and assigns it to eth0
[21:57] <`m0> IndyGunFreak: No, it is just a notifier, it still asks you to update it and downloads then installs.
[21:57] <hatter> how do i change the ssh logout time that is very short on 7.10 ?
[21:57] <`m0> IndyGunFreak: if it just updates by itself it would be fine
[21:57] <IndyGunFreak> `m0: i know... i was kidding
[21:57] <erUSUL> rmaj: so the problem is? routing?
[21:57] <ho0ks> ahh
[21:57] <rmaj> erUSUL: it would seem so
[21:57] <drgeb>  thanks ubotu!!
[21:57] <MasterShrek> hatter, probably a file in /etc/ssh/   maybe sshd_config   or something
[21:58] <KDuB> Slart, how can i access my router settings via firefox.. like windows it used to be just entering the IP in the browser?
[21:58] <IndyGunFreak> my humor just didn't come through very well.
[21:58] <`m0> KDuB; same thing
[21:58] <rmaj> erUSUL: routing table is empty even after   route add default dev eth0   wtf
[21:58] <MasterShrek> KDuB, thats how i do it in linux
[21:58] <Slart> KDuB: have you tried doing the exact same thing?
[21:58] <KDuB> Yes and it says unable to connect to server?
[21:58] <rmaj> KDuB: by taping the ip address (liek 192.168.1.1) into address bar obviously
[21:58] <fitztrev> IndyGunFreak: `m0: System>Administratoin>Software Sources,  Updates tab... Check for updates Daily, Install without confirmation
[21:58] <erUSUL> rmaj: "ip route" shows anything?
[21:58] <`m0> KDuB: The router is like an internal webserver that you can access anywhere in the network, if you can't access it then your router is not setup correcrl
[21:58] <KDuB> oh..
[21:58] <kiiz> does any one know of a package like aptoncd that works on windows
[21:58] <KDuB> i typed 100
[21:58] <MasterShrek> =P
[21:58] <Slart> KDuB: hmm.. it should be the same...
[21:59] <ruud> help plse unable to setup 3d on my intel integrated chipset in ubuntu
[21:59] <IndyGunFreak> fitztrev: ok.. but thats only for security updates, is it not?
[21:59] <ruud>  help plse unable to setup 3d on my intel integrated chipset in ubuntu
[21:59] <omnId> nobody knows anything bout my poor pathetic modem :(?  Ah well, I'll do some more research.
[21:59] <Slart> !repeat | ruud
[21:59] <ubotu> ruud: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:59] <rmaj> erUSUL: no, empty
[21:59] <`m0> fitztrev: Excellent, thanks
[21:59] <KDuB> Ty
[21:59] <fitztrev> IndyGunFreak: it seems to update everything for me.  i rarely have to click anything myself
[21:59] <KDuB> all..
[22:00] <IndyGunFreak> fitztrev: ok..
[22:00] <rmaj> ruud: i915 family? search in package manager for i915  (the name can be i810 afair)
[22:00] <IndyGunFreak> ruud: intel graphic driver support is limited at best.
[22:00] <mnemonica> Does anybody in here use xbindkeys?
[22:00] <rmaj> IndyGunFreak: bullshit
[22:00] <ruud> tks rmaj, i'm looking now
[22:00] <rmaj> IndyGunFreak: i810 .. i945 are best supported cards ever afaik
[22:00] <IndyGunFreak> rmaj: lol, ok..
[22:00] <soldats> mnemonica, what do you need to do with it
[22:00] <rain> i am back, clocking  on "reload window mannager" under beryl mannager has no effect
[22:00] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: intel has some of the best support afaik
[22:01] <IndyGunFreak> rmaj: note the end of yuoursentence, "afaik", which is very little
[22:01] <rmaj> they are only cards that can do some 3d (not for doom3, but fair ok for say quake 2)  and that are fully open
[22:01] <rmaj> IndyGunFreak: I am sure i810 - i945 are the rare cards, that are as good as linux as in windows, on _free_ (open) drivers
[22:01] <Slart> IndyGunFreak: I think intel released specs for those chipsets some time ago.. and presto!! instant good karma and good performance.. not nvidia 8800 gtx performance.. but still
[22:01] <erUSUL> rmaj: i do not know what can be wrong here... have you checked the logs for any kernel error? System>Admin>logs
[22:02] <IndyGunFreak> Slart: probably
[22:02] <mnemonica> soldats: I can't figure out how to assign action. For instance, I want to have a certain keybind (super+t, which I already have set up) open the terminal. What do I put in the "action" area to open terminal? Same thing for firefox, synaptic...etc
[22:02] <rmaj> erUSUL: dmesg show no logs
[22:02] <ruud> rmaj i have xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 installed
[22:02] <kiiz> i guess i am doomed. any advice on how i can download packages thru windows.
[22:02] <ruud> i guess my problem is on the configure side
[22:02] <MasterShrek> mnemonica, for the terminal i would assume put: gnome-terminal     for the action
[22:03] <ruud> if i run glxgears i get 33 fps
[22:03] <rmaj> ruud: hmm perhaps change in xorg.conf the driver
[22:03] <rmaj> kiiz: network doesnt work?
[22:03] <erUSUL> Slart: it is even better they develop the drivers themselves ( e.g. they hired keith packard)
[22:03] <ruud> rmaj ; to what?
[22:03] <tehdave> I'm having an issue setting up a bluetooth dongle I got from my friend, from a logitech keyboard/mouse combo. I see the device recognized by the Hardware manager as a bluetooth receiver, but when I try to run hciconfig, I get nothing echoed to me, just a new command line...
[22:03] <mnemonica> MasterShrek: Awesome. Very simple, as I figured it would be... Thank you!
[22:03] <Slart> kiiz: look at packages.ubuntu.org.. I think there are regular links to the packages.. or get one of the DVD's.. they work as a deb source too
[22:03] <pablin> how to install xfi drivers in ubuntu 7.10 64 bits
[22:04] <soldats> mnemonica, yea gnome-terminal should work but if you try to use a single "win" key for it youll have to do some more config-ing
[22:04] <pablin> help
[22:04] <MasterShrek> mnemonica, for synaptic you need: gksu synaptic   (so it gets run with admin priviledges)
[22:04] <rmaj> ruud: probably set Driver to "i810" or simmlar name perhaps "i915"
[22:04] <rmaj> erUSUL: so.... any idea?
[22:04] <mnemonica> MasterShrek: Ah, ok, that makes sense.
[22:04] <ruud> rmaj if i leave it on "intel" i get imperfect resolution (black areas on adges of monitor) - i810 solves this but i get no 3d
[22:05] <kiiz> rmaj: i have no personal internet connection.only at work
[22:05]  * tehdave takes a number.
[22:05] <fullmetal> hey ppl
[22:05] <rain> I cant select beryl at select window mannager
[22:05] <erUSUL> rmaj: no, sorry it is har to dignose a problem without an error msg... all we know is that route or ip route deosn't work...
[22:05] <chuck> hi, i'm installing xubuntu, and i'm on the page where you select the kernel to install, which one should i choose?
[22:05] <fullmetal> I'm on gusty
[22:05] <fullmetal> ;-)
[22:05] <carmant> hi. i am about to try and install ubuntu using the graphic installer. however when i get to the partition bit, the partition i previously made in windows for me to install linux on doesnt appear, instead it just comes up with the drive as a whole, rather than two seperate partitions. any ideas?
[22:05] <rmaj> erUSUL: should I  file it as a bug?
[22:05] <robr> hi there, i installed apache and /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty is that normal?
[22:05] <timewriter> is it possible to install Feisty on raid 0 ?
[22:05] <chuck> robr, for apache2, yes
[22:05] <MasterShrek> chuck, what is available?
[22:05] <rmaj> damn, how can ubuntu fuck up so simple and basic thing as route
[22:06] <robr> chuck: does it use a different config file? or ?
[22:06] <fullmetal> by the way
[22:06] <TexasTaz> Good Evening everyone .....
[22:06] <erUSUL> rmaj: i would but it would be hard to blame a specific package...
[22:06] <chuck> MasterShrek, linux-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic, or none
[22:06] <ruud> rmaj: in glxgeasr i get message "extension x-lib missing"
[22:06] <ikonia> rmaj: there is NO need for that language
[22:06] <erUSUL> !bugs | rmaj
[22:06] <ubotu> rmaj: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[22:06] <TexasTaz> Would Virtualization be offtopic
[22:06] <fullmetal> how to fix the bug of shutdown
[22:06] <ikonia> !language >rmaj
[22:06] <chuck> robr, apache2 uses /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[22:06] <rmaj> ikonia: I want my damn network to work
[22:06] <robr> chuck: ah ok thanks! :)
[22:06] <ikonia> rmaj: that is no excuse, STOP using bad language
[22:06] <chuck> !language >chuck
[22:07] <timewriter> !raid
[22:07] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:07] <DIL> !pyflag
[22:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyflag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:07] <tehdave> good evening...trying to set up a USB bluetooth dongle, and it doesn't seem to want to run hciconfig -_-
[22:07] <Sier> this channel is really noisy :(
[22:07] <chuck> so anyone know which kernel i should install?
[22:07] <ikonia> tehdave: doesn't want to ? any errors ?
[22:07] <ikonia> chuck: which kernel for what ?
[22:07] <MasterShrek> chuck, i think you want to use linux-generic, that and linux-image-generic are both meta packages i think
[22:07] <carmant> any ideas why my partition isnt appearing when i try and install ubuntu?
[22:07] <erUSUL> chuck: generic
[22:07] <tehdave> nope, no return line, just a new command prompt
[22:07] <tehdave> as if I'd just hit enter
[22:08] <timewriter> carmant which partition ?
[22:08] <tehdave> ikonia: nothing returns, just gives me another prompt
[22:08] <carmant> i made a partition under windows for me to install linux. i divided my 60gig hd into two parts - 40gb for windows, 20gb for linux
[22:08] <ikonia> tehdave: just pondering
[22:08] <carmant> but it just appears as one 60gb drive when i try to install
[22:09] <ikonia> carmant: you may not have written the partition table
[22:09] <ikonia> carmant: it sound like the partition table was not commited as you still have the 1 60 gig partition table
[22:09] <timewriter> did you used software as partition magic under windows ?
[22:09] <TheCobra> Hi there, can somebody help me with the installation of AMSN on Ubuntu 6.06?
[22:09] <tehdave> ikonia: kk sorry XD   Might it help to mention it's a Logitech dongle originally designed for use as a keyboard/mouse connection point?
[22:09] <erUSUL> carmant: maybe you shold have choose manual partitioning during install?
[22:09] <erUSUL> TheCobra: sudo apt-get install amsn ?
[22:09] <ikonia> tehdave: out of interst can you actually see the dongle in lsub and as a device file ?
[22:09] <erUSUL> !info amsn dapper
[22:09] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[22:09] <carmant> cant remember exactly how i partitioned it, it was ages ago. i had vista running on the one i now want to use for linux if that makes a difference
[22:10] <TheCobra> erUSUL, amsn is running but doesn't want to login get en error
[22:10] <ikonia> carmant: re-partition it
[22:10] <tehdave> ikonia: lsub? you mean lsusb?
[22:10] <Bawbatos> question - is there anyway to get the eth interfaces to come up in a set order?
[22:10] <ikonia> tehdave: yes
[22:10] <timewriter> choose manual partitioning when prompted
[22:10] <chuck> hmm i get an error when i try to install linux-generic kernel
[22:10] <carmant> under windows ikonia?
[22:10] <s32aph> how do I install dpkg with only bzip?
[22:10] <timewriter> it has to be there
[22:10] <ikonia> Bawbatos: the lower numbers come up first
[22:10] <ikonia> carmant: any way you want
[22:10] <chuck> "Unable to install the selected kernel"
[22:10] <erUSUL> TheCobra: and the error is?
[22:10] <timewriter> well , ive never had issues with linux
[22:10] <ikonia> chuck: what kernel are you currently running
[22:10] <chuck> i think the error is a hash sum mismatch
[22:10] <draken> how can i get my ubunut to look like this
[22:10] <mnemonica> MasterShrek: *sigh* What would the action be for firefox...?
[22:10] <timewriter> where do you get those errors
[22:10] <chuck> ikonia, i'm installing xubuntu fresh
[22:11] <ikonia> chuck: so why are you trying to change kernel  ?
[22:11] <MasterShrek> mnemonica, firefox
[22:11] <Slart> Bawbatos: check for udev rules for the network interfaces.. I don't remember the specifics
[22:11] <s32aph> how do I install dpkg with only bzip?
[22:11] <carmant> ikonia - ok so will i have to rejoin it then re-partition it?
[22:11] <draken> how can i get my ubunut to look like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
[22:11] <draken> like the os x dock
[22:11] <chuck> ikonia, because i need a kernel to be able to boot into xubuntu...?
[22:11] <ikonia> carmant: its not been partitioned so it doesn't need rejoined
[22:11] <Bawbatos> thanks
[22:11] <Kamari> hello, I'm having problems updating my ubuntu from the previous version to 7.10 over the update manager, can anyone help me please?
[22:11] <buggeredfstab> I am trying to connect to my locally hosted MySQL db via MySQL Administrator, and it cannot connect. I currently have it pointed to localhost. Is there something that I am missing?
[22:11] <tehdave> ikonia: returns 5 lines, 2 with nothing (bus 2 device 1, and bus 1 device 1 are empty) and bus 1 device 11, 12, and 13 are the usb dongle with 3 different hex values
[22:11] <ikonia> chuck: if you are running xubuntu - you have a running kernel
[22:11] <mnemonica> MasterShrek: Wow.... Simple. I'm an idiot, lol. Thank you, again.
[22:11] <timewriter> draken you need to install compiz fusion
[22:11] <erUSUL> chuck: he default kernel is the generic one you shouldn't need to install it manually
[22:11] <Slart> Bawbatos: but why do you need the interfaces to come up in a specific order?
[22:12] <Bawbatos> ikonia that is strange because on the same box - 7.10 server came up in a differnet order then kubuntu did
[22:12] <chuck> erUSUL, i'm not installing it fricking manually
[22:12] <ikonia> tehdave: I'm just having a look to see if that device has a supported module and which one it is
[22:12] <MasterShrek> =P
[22:12] <aladdinsane> does it make a difference if you mount a drive in the "media" or the "mnt" directory?
[22:12] <ikonia> Bawbatos: thats not unusual
[22:12] <draken> ya i got that timerwriter, but i mean like the dock at bottem
[22:12] <Slart> Bawbatos: just out of curiousity
[22:12] <Bawbatos> Slart - anal. i want eth0 to be internal
[22:12] <draken> looks soo cool
[22:12] <Tyczek> Is there person who can change the screens between LCD/CRT on Ati drivers?
[22:12] <ikonia> chuck: I don't understand your situation
[22:12] <s32aph> how do I manually install dpkg?
[22:12] <carmant> ikonia - then how come it appears as two drives in windows/ubuntu?
[22:12] <chuck> it took me to the kernel menu because something else got messed up, but i fixed it, but i have to manually select the kernel for osme reason
[22:12] <user1> have problems with scratchy sound in gutsy, any ideas how to fix it? worked fine after initial install then had a sound server crash
[22:12] <Bawbatos> ikonia so i can force it tho. i will have to lool
[22:12] <ikonia> carmant: I don't know
[22:12] <Bawbatos> look
[22:12] <timewriter> avant-window-manager draken
[22:12] <ikonia> chuck: re-install
[22:12] <erUSUL> chuck: whaen isaid manually i meant firing up a package manager and installing it
[22:12] <DIL> draken, sweet
[22:12] <timewriter> apt-get install it , or get it from www.getdeb.net
[22:13] <TheCobra> erUSUL, problems with TLS
[22:13] <s32aph> can someone tell me how to nstall dpkg with no apt?
[22:13] <carmant> ikonia - ok cool, il have a play around under windows, thx for your help. gotta reboot.
[22:13] <carmant> :)
[22:13] <Slart> Bawbatos: ah.. so yo want to decide which nic gets to be eth0 and which gets to be eth1 ? then you don't care if eth1 gets up before eth0, right?.. check the udev rules.. they let you bind a mac address to a interface name
[22:13] <chuck> nevermind, i'm just going to install debian, never had any problems with it
[22:13] <TheCobra> when he tries to auto install it
[22:13] <erUSUL> TheCobra: maybe you lack some neccesary library?
[22:13] <TheCobra> I get the error Coudln't get
[22:13] <Bawbatos> thanks. i will have a look at that
[22:13] <n15t0> hello all
[22:13] <timewriter> too bad my ati card doesnt support all compiz effects
[22:14] <alka_trash> hey anyone tried Pulsa audio?  did you like it?
[22:14] <alka_trash> Hey anyone tried Pulse audio?  did you like it?
[22:14] <TexasTaz> Let me pre-empt this question by saying sorry if I didn't see a response, I need to run a game server however the Game is a Windoze exe, Is VirtualBox the best Solution?
[22:14] <dablueman> hey who here has a digg.com account
[22:15] <Flannel> dablueman: #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[22:15] <Slart> TexasTaz: wine won't do it?
[22:15] <alka_trash> TexasTaz: what game
[22:15] <s32aph> can someone tell me how to nstall dpkg with no apt?
[22:15] <timewriter> TexasTaz try cedega
[22:15] <n15t0> i have a question can any1 tell me how i can make a directory with sehll but the name has a space between like mother father
[22:15] <dablueman> im just a askin
[22:15] <Flannel> s32aph: Why do you need to do that?
[22:15] <dablueman> this is ubuntu talk
[22:15] <TexasTaz> Well it has to be run as a server and I need atleast 5 instances of the server running
[22:15] <timewriter> n15t0 use
[22:15] <timewriter> "  "
[22:15] <wols> timewriter: wine might also work
[22:15] <dablueman> im talking about ubuntu stories on digg.com
[22:15] <Flannel> n15t0: or \ .  /mother\ father/
[22:15] <n15t0> like "father""mother
[22:15] <timewriter> yes , but wine is dodgy
[22:15] <Kamari> doesn't anyone have an idea how to do that?
[22:15] <n15t0> or?
[22:15] <timewriter> n15t0 like
[22:15] <wols> n15t0: name\ word
[22:15] <timewriter> "father mother"
[22:15] <trpr> timewriter: fyi cedega specializes in directx. if the game doesn't require directx, wine should do
[22:15] <Flannel> n15t0: That is, put it in quotes, or escape the space.  Escaping is quicker.  Also, tab complete will escape for y as well
[22:15] <tehdave> n15to like "father mother"
[22:16] <igor47> i'm having all sorts of wierd problems with my server.  apache seems to have stopped running, and now won't start because "unable to open logs" .  and aptitude complains that "/root/.aptitude is readable but not writable" although root ofcourse has write privs there.  anyone know what the deal is?
[22:16] <KDuB> Is there any type of Anti Virus software for Ubuntu 7.10?
[22:16] <TexasTaz> alka_trash   nascar Racing 2003 Season
[22:16] <timewriter> i dont use wine , it has a lot of errors
[22:16] <tehdave> people write viruses for linux?
[22:16] <n15t0> ahh okay thanks
[22:16] <Kamari> hello, I'm having problems updating my ubuntu from the previous version to 7.10 over the update manager, can anyone help me please? Is there any other way to do it?
[22:16] <TexasTaz> timewriter Thank You
[22:16] <wols> KDuB: not really, not really needeed either. there is clamav but pretty much for windows only
[22:16] <s32aph> can someone tell me how to nstall dpkg with no apt or aptitude
[22:16] <erUSUL> TheCobra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198010
[22:16] <robr> i'm using ubuntu server, what command can i use to see the permssions of a file/directory?
[22:16] <timewriter> couldnt run world of warcraft with wine
[22:16] <KDuB> timewriter, do you use crossover?
[22:16] <wols> KDuB: e.g. only recognizes windows viruses
[22:16] <timewriter> no
[22:16] <timewriter> just cedega
[22:16] <Flannel> robr: ls -l
[22:16] <wols> robr: ls -l
[22:16] <zarathu_> robr: ls -l
[22:16] <tehdave> timewriter: I run it fine
[22:16] <trpr> timewriter: you are if you use cedega. all of those crossover type products are based directly on wine
[22:16] <robr> thx :)
[22:16] <n15t0> anyone knows how to deinstall wine applications like games?
[22:17] <KDuB> i see...
[22:17] <timewriter> i know that
[22:17] <Flannel> timewriter: WoW runs really well in wine.
[22:17] <timewriter> but its nut just a simple wine
[22:17] <timewriter> i have no sound with wine
[22:17] <timewriter> had*
[22:17] <KDuB> wols, so that would be good for protecting my windows partition only?
[22:17] <n15t0> i installed all kinds of game but couldnt deinstall them
[22:17] <KDuB> And i would need root kit detectors?
[22:17] <timewriter> just rm them
[22:17] <n15t0> the directory?
[22:18] <timewriter> KDuB dont be paranoid
[22:18] <pirx> hey! can i run ubuntu on the new intel core2 quad processors?
[22:18] <timewriter> just keep your system up-to-date
[22:18] <Mar_La> this directory is active? www.directoryofwebsite.com
[22:18] <s32aph> my ubuntu has no dpkg
[22:18] <timewriter> pirx you can
[22:18] <tehdave> ikonia: any luck?
[22:18] <timewriter> i run it on a quad core
[22:18] <s32aph> how can i install dpkg
[22:18] <TexasTaz> Hey Guys another Question, I was trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 (GutsyGibbon) and it wouldn't let me update or add anything from repositories like amarok, or ms fonts and such
[22:18] <zarathu_> i'm using Ubuntu LiveCD at the moment because the linux system over it is fried -- does anyone know how i can mount a Linux LVM partition?
[22:18] <Slart> KDuB: if you want to hunt rootkits there are tkhunter
[22:18] <TheCobra> erUSUL also looking for that, but that doesn't help :(
[22:18] <KDuB> timewriter, well there are so many "bad" people out there lol.
[22:18] <TexasTaz> Why is that
[22:18] <Slart> KDuB: sorry.. rkhunter
[22:18] <Slart> !info rkhunter
[22:18] <timewriter> well , they wont crack into your box for sure
[22:18] <pirx> timewriter: cool. how does that feel?
[22:18] <timewriter> :)
[22:18] <icerebellumi> Hi all, anyone know what plugin I need to use XMMS to create playlists for my shoutcast server?
[22:18] <ubotu> rkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-1 (gutsy), package size 232 kB, installed size 868 kB
[22:18] <n15t0> timewriter just remove the directory?
[22:18] <ikonia> sorry, I missed your last comment
[22:18] <erUSUL> TheCobra: the amsn faq --> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Frequently+Asked+Questions#faq-6-6
[22:18] <timewriter> n15t0 yes
[22:19] <timewriter> pirx , i like intel :)
[22:19] <KDuB> Slart, man.. you the boss of ubuntu!
[22:19] <n15t0> okay thx
[22:19] <alka_trash> TexasTaz: from looking on winedb on nascar Racing 2003 I would go with Virtualbox
[22:19] <tehdave> ikonia oh, thought you were looking something up XD how do I tell if it recognizes a driver for the device?
[22:19] <Slart> KDuB: not in any way.. not even near.. I've just spent to much time in here
[22:19] <TexasTaz> alka_trash: Thanks that's what I thought
[22:19] <wols> alka_trash: considering virtualbox doesn't give you and 3D support: why?
[22:19] <ikonia> tehdave: looking for the supported module name, then to see if that module is loaded
[22:19] <timewriter> well , if linux will get better in the games quarter , i might quit in microsoft
[22:19] <timewriter> on*
[22:20] <pirx> timewriter: to be more specific. do you know if any programs can take advantage of 4 cores? like perhaps eclipse
[22:20] <ikonia> timewriter: that will be a long time
[22:20] <icerebellumi> fuck microsoft
[22:20] <ikonia> pirx: your kernel will deal with most of that
[22:20] <icerebellumi> get an iMac
[22:20] <KDuB> true.. I have the partition for games and my recording studio!
[22:20] <erUSUL> !ohmy | icerebellumi
[22:20] <ubotu> icerebellumi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:20] <LjL> !language | icerebellumi
[22:20] <ikonia> icerebellumi: thats both uncalled for and hihgly offensive language
[22:20] <timewriter> pirx its not about programs
[22:20] <tehdave> ikonia: how do I see if the module is loaded? i'm relatively new to Linux
[22:20] <timewriter> its about the entire system
[22:20] <alka_trash> TexasTaz: it might work with the latest version of wine, but from the winedb website the other people that tried to get it working didn't have to much luck
[22:20] <wols> pirx: most decent server software can
[22:20] <TexasTaz> timewriter I have 42 Processors setting here 2 Intel Quads 2.66 ghz 1333 fsb, 8 mb cache and 40 Dual Core Opterons
[22:20] <ikonia> tehdave: have to find out the correct modules name first
[22:20] <TexasTaz> building a server with the 2 quad cores for myself lol with 32 gb of ram
[22:20] <timewriter> thats good for you , you have a rendering farm ?
[22:20] <timewriter> :)
[22:21] <askand> the preload application; work or not for you?
[22:21] <timewriter> i dont need 42 cpu`s @ home
[22:21] <TexasTaz> rofl no sir
[22:21] <alka_trash> TexasTaz: Nice!
[22:21] <timewriter> :))
[22:21] <tehdave> ikonia: would that be under system>prefs>hardware info ?
[22:21] <ikonia> tehdave: no, you have to find out the correct module name, which is what I'm looking up now
[22:21] <TexasTaz> Yeah I get them from where I work because they test them for two dfays and throw them out
[22:21] <timewriter> heh
[22:21] <ikonia> tehdave: there doesn't appear to be much documentation on it at an instant
[22:21] <timewriter> ive seen once a machine with 75 sparc cpu`s
[22:21] <timewriter> it costed 500.000 $
[22:21] <TexasTaz> They give them to us as a benefit of working there
[22:22] <TheManiacKY> TexasTaz: I'm running the same thing, the Quad intel 2.66 4 meg xeons with 32 gig of ram. But its running ESX server and running 42 Windwos 2003 servers. ;) Thats alot of horse power you got there
[22:22] <ikonia> !offtopic >timewriter
[22:22] <alka_trash> TexasTaz:  I guess things in Texas ARE really bigger
[22:22] <timewriter> yeah yeah i know ikonia
[22:22] <n15t0> hey why cant i open the bitchx war script?
[22:22] <irielion> hey, im looking for deb packages for my project... intipunku.googlecode.com
[22:22] <irielion> this is a photo manager
[22:22] <tehdave> ikonia: Ahhh...yeah all I've found has basically said it works fine if you're just using it with the keyboard/mouse it's designed for, but it's hard to get it to work as a regular bluetooth hub
[22:22] <timewriter> n15t0 bitchx is bitchy
[22:22] <timewriter> :)
[22:22] <n15t0> xD
[22:22] <TexasTaz> alka_trash
[22:23] <buggeredfstab> I am trying to connect to my locally hosted MySQL db via MySQL Administrator, and it cannot connect. I currently have it pointed to localhost. Is there something that I am missing? http://dpaste.com/27446/
[22:23] <timewriter> get xchat
[22:23] <ikonia> tehdave: thats pretty much the theme I'm reading too, give me a little more time to just finish the document
[22:23] <n15t0> is it better?
[22:23] <TexasTaz> I work for HP as an Admin/Inrastructure Engineer
[22:23] <tehdave> ikonia alright, I'll be here ^_^
[22:23] <timewriter> at leats it doesnt destroy your eyes
[22:23] <timewriter> least* even
[22:23] <TexasTaz> oops infrastructure
[22:23] <trpr> n15t0: of course he will say it is better. it is a matter of opinion, like most software
[22:23] <Flannel> n15t0: Try irssi instead of bitchx.  BitchX has some security issues.
[22:23] <n15t0> i never used xchat
[22:23] <n15t0> i could try it
[22:23] <timewriter> xchat has a GUI
[22:23] <drgeb> Slart I placed syslog at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47609/
[22:24] <TexasTaz> Yes TimeWriter it does both for KDE and Gnome rofl
[22:24] <n15t0> whats a GUI (sry im new in using ubuntu)
[22:24] <Slart> drgeb: checking..
[22:24] <timewriter> a interface
[22:24] <tehdave> n15t0: Graphical User Interface
[22:24] <Slart> n15t0: graphical user interface.. pretty icons and windoss
[22:24] <n15t0> ahh okay thx
[22:24] <TexasTaz> Yeah what the dave said
[22:24] <n15t0> this is like the best channel for ubuntu users in the world xD
[22:24] <timewriter> xD
[22:25]  * timewriter smiles
[22:25] <TexasTaz> is there another channel for Ubuntu users? :)
[22:25] <timewriter> of course it is
[22:25] <timewriter> those guys are elites
[22:25] <eyemean> hello, someone please help me
[22:25] <tehdave> n15t0: qft...a bit cluttered and crowded, but you can generally find someone who can help you out
[22:25] <timewriter> hello eyemean
[22:25] <ikonia> tehdave: it appears you can get it to work, but it is a rather large ammoount of trial and error, depending on your distro, I would invest $15 in a more supported usb bluetooth dongle if possible
[22:26] <eyemean> my home folder was full, wen i tried to delete tiems it wouldnt
[22:26] <TexasTaz> Okay guys then give me some one to help me get Gutsy to update properly s oI can get the Desktop Stuff I need lol
[22:26] <Slart> drgeb: are you running regular ubuntu? nothing special?
[22:26] <ikonia> TexasTaz: what sort of issue are you having updating
[22:26] <timewriter> you dont want to delete your entire home folder
[22:26] <drgeb> Slate I also put my xorg.conf file at http://dpaste.com/hold/27449/
[22:26] <n15t0> reconnect
[22:26] <eyemean> timewriter, hello
[22:26] <n15t0> huf
[22:26] <timewriter> you cant delete it as long as its owned by root
[22:27] <drgeb> yes regular ubuntu is there away I can copy a file which tells u all packages I have installed ?
[22:27] <TexasTaz> Can i /msg you ikonia
[22:27] <ikonia> TexasTaz: I'd rather you didn't
[22:27] <timewriter> you might want to delete some unwanted items inside your ~
[22:27] <tehdave> ikonia: yeah, that's kind of what I was figuring...I sort of want to get around and do the work required to get the logitech dongle to work, just to get a better feel for Linux and how to work through problems, but for the time being I guess that's the best way of going about it
[22:27] <TexasTaz> Cool
[22:27] <eyemean> timewriter, i get the message, Failed to open "/home/eyemean/.local/share/Trash/info/test.xml.trashinfo" for writing.
[22:27] <Slart> drgeb: I think you can do dpkg -L ... or dpkg -l (lower case L)
[22:27] <ikonia> TexasTaz: much wiser to buy supported kit than try and make unsupported kit to work
[22:27] <timewriter> yes , because you need superuser powers to do that
[22:28] <timewriter> do you want to empty your home folder ?
[22:28] <ikonia> TexasTaz: so what is the problem
[22:28] <timewriter> sudo rm -rf /home/eyemean/*
[22:28] <timewriter> and its empty
[22:28] <eyemean> timewriter, no only some of it
[22:28] <timewriter> but i wont recommend that
[22:28] <timewriter> then sudo rm -rf whatever you want to
[22:28] <Slart> drgeb: but... the syslog didn't  tell me a lot.. neither did the xorg.conf.. it looks like a regular xorg.conf file to me...
[22:28] <eyemean> timewriter, i used the command, and deleted some items, but for some reason didnt make a difference at all wen it should have
[22:29] <tehdave> so, the main reason I want to get a bluetooth dongle set up...has anyone seen anything about getting a Wiimote or an Xbox 360 controller to hook up to a linux box using bluetooth?
[22:29] <drgeb> hmm let me copy .xsession-errors
[22:29] <n15t0> anyone knows what a exploit code is?
[22:29] <TexasTaz> Well i have certain things likse ms fonts and some other things I need however it tells me they are not there to install or all the dependencies haven't been installed so it can't install
[22:29] <ikonia> tehdave: yes, thats very do-able, just not with the dongle you have
[22:29] <timewriter> delete them one by one using root powers :)
[22:29] <tehdave> ikonia: alright...i'll probably pick one up when I get paid then, and mess around with it then
[22:29] <PriceChild> tehdave, the 360 controller doesn't use bluetooth... a usb wireless connection for it is aviliable manufactured by microsoft availiable at any decent gaming store
[22:29] <timewriter> n15t0 , a exploit code is a code that explots a bug
[22:30] <TexasTaz> so i know this has to do with repositories, i used to have a real good one but it's not there anymore so I guess i need another one that has everything I need
[22:30] <timewriter> used in most cases for gaining acces into the vulnerable box
[22:30] <ikonia> PriceChild: the wii controller is fine to setup
[22:30] <tehdave> ikonia: ahh...thought it was bluetooth...yeah my friend has one of those
[22:30] <PriceChild> ikonia, ps3 is bluetooth too i think but not xbox360
[22:30] <askand>  the preload application; work or not for you?
[22:30] <KDuB> :)
[22:31] <KDuB> I think i'm all set.
[22:31] <ikonia> PriceChild: yes, xbox I'm not sure about, but the wii certainly
[22:31] <KDuB> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: Dual AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
[22:31] <n15t0> thx timewriter
[22:31] <desertc> When converting videos to mpeg with ffmpeg, should I be concerned about "buffer underflow" errors?
[22:31] <n15t0> mountd remote exploit code
[22:31] <n15t0> named remote expliot code
[22:31] <n15t0> imap remote exploit codes
[22:31] <n15t0> wu-ftpd remote exploit code
[22:31] <n15t0> Sekurity Scanner. SSCAN by JSBACH
[22:31] <n15t0> listen remote exploit code
[22:31] <n15t0> q-pop remote exploit code
[22:31] <n15t0> ICQ bomber & flooder source code
[22:31] <n15t0> Denial Of Service code
[22:31] <ikonia> stop
[22:31] <ikonia> thank you
[22:32] <n15t0> sry for the spam
[22:32] <timewriter> n15t0 dont paste
[22:32] <n15t0> i didnt know that
[22:32] <timewriter> where you found those stuff ?
[22:32] <n15t0> they were all comming once
[22:32] <n15t0> a freind told me to downlaod these things
[22:32] <tehdave> alright, thanks ikonia...may be back here once I get a decent dongle set up if I can't find a good way to get it set up
[22:33] <timewriter> lol
[22:33] <kazol> I have a problem deleting a dir-I get: "rm: cannot remove directory `Downloads/l': No such file or directory" and then "rm: cannot remove directory `Downloads/\200\031\021\267\262:\310\001\200\354ߵ\262:\310\001\351\003': No such file or directory"
[22:33] <timewriter> dont use them or you will go to jail
[22:33] <n15t0> but i cant find them
[22:33] <tehdave> er...to get the wiimote set up
[22:33] <ikonia> tehdave: straight forward to setup, let me know if you have issues
[22:33] <ikonia> tehdave: happy to help
[22:33] <n15t0> what?? to jail
[22:33] <tehdave> ikonia will do ^_^
[22:33] <n15t0> why that?
[22:33] <n15t0> are they illegal?
[22:33] <timewriter> because hacking is illegal
[22:33] <soldats> n15t0, yes they are
[22:33] <eyemean> ok it look slike the problem was thunar, caus ei opened nautilus and i deleted files fine
[22:33] <n15t0> what er those?
[22:33] <timewriter> except if you use them on your own  box
[22:33] <n15t0> are*
[22:33] <alucard> boa noite galera
[22:33] <timewriter> hacking tools
[22:34] <n15t0> ah okay
[22:34] <n15t0> only if i use them on my own box?
[22:34] <n15t0> then they are legal?
[22:34] <timewriter> i mean if you use them to test your box
[22:34] <alucard> alguem sabe colocar arquivo rmvb no ubuntu?
[22:34] <n15t0> ahh okay
[22:34] <timewriter> like ./exploit my.own.box.net
[22:34] <trpr> n15t0: it is not illegal to experiment / attack your own equipment. you aren't violating the rights of others that way
[22:34] <n15t0> so if i install them
[22:35] <n15t0> and use them on my box then
[22:35] <n15t0> ah okay
[22:35] <ikonia> n15t0: they are nothing to do with ubuntu, so lets not discuss them here
[22:35] <timewriter> alucard can you try that in english please ?
[22:35] <eyemean> timewriter, is thunar prone to errors? or problems?
[22:35] <n15t0> can you help me to get this stuff to look if my box is safe from outside hackers
[22:35] <n15t0> oh okay
[22:35] <ikonia> n15t0: they are not ubuntu tools, so no
[22:35] <soldats> eyemean, i have thunar and i have never had a problem
[22:35] <n15t0> sry ikonia
[22:35] <timewriter> eyemean i dont know
[22:35] <david_J> Anyone want to be on my SGLI with the army?, and I I wasn't joking.. I really don't want to give it to my family...
[22:35] <ikonia> n15t0: no need to apologise
[22:35] <aladdinsane> this is my 5th hour trying to solve this problem..Why cant i get my, through fstab, mounted second internal hd to show up as a drive in my applications? It does show up as a drive in two applications though, Thunar and Nautilus, but in all the rest i have to browse down through the filesystem to find the folder, my fstab: UID=xxxx /media/Hdd2        ext3     user,rw  0      0
[22:35] <n15t0> okay ;)
[22:36] <Slart> n15t0: I think they are as legal as say.. a nasty looking stick.. if you walk around hitting people over the head with it.. you'll go to jail.. but I don't think that code.. or the stick is illegal in itself.. but we'll taunt you mercilessly if you keep nagging us about it =)
[22:36] <ikonia> david_J: that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:36] <david_J> ikonia: I figured someone would say that...
[22:36] <ikonia> david_J: so don't do it
[22:36] <david_J> I'll drop it
[22:36] <alucard> somebody make put .rmvb in ubuntu?
[22:36] <eyemean> soldats, for some reason it wouldnt let me move items from my home folder or anywhere else so i opened nautilus and that worked fine
[22:36] <timewriter> n15t0 what OS are you using ?
[22:36] <kazol> Can someone help me? I have a problem deleting a directory.
[22:36] <ikonia> kazol: sure, explain the problem
[22:36] <timewriter> wuftpd is not vulnerable since 2002
[22:36] <timewriter> lol
[22:37] <soldats> eyemean, hmm i do it all the time ill have to look into it
[22:37] <timewriter> you may try that ssh scan
[22:37] <timewriter> thats the gayest "code" ever
[22:37] <n15t0> ehh
[22:37] <ikonia> timewriter: tone it down please.
[22:37] <timewriter> it tries to connect via ssh
[22:37] <Slart> kazol: what's the problem?
[22:37] <timewriter> using some passwords
[22:37] <n15t0> OS
[22:37] <timewriter> sorry ikonia
[22:37] <LjL> !enter
[22:37] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:37] <timewriter> like root=toor
[22:37] <LjL> !language
[22:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:37] <n15t0> is what? xDD
[22:37] <timewriter> www=www
[22:37] <timewriter> etc
[22:37] <mnemonica> Hey... I'm trying to fix some issues that I'm having with my wireless card, when I issue lspci in the prompt it gives me this: ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47613/     What is my wireless card's name? Or what is it called?   I'm using this guide: http://i-eat-noobs.blogspot.com/2007/08/get-wireless-working-in-ubuntu-704.html    to try and get my wireless working.    With the restricted drivers I can see the ssid but not actually connect.
[22:37] <kazol> ikonia, Slart: I try performing the command "rm -rf Downloads" but I get: "rm: cannot remove directory `Downloads/l': No such file or directory" and then "rm: cannot remove directory `Downloads/\200\031\021\267\262:\310\001\200\354ߵ\262:\310\001\351\003': No such file or directory"
[22:38] <n15t0> OS isnt it ubuntu?
[22:38] <ikonia> kazol: ahhh that is because of \ - you need to escape char it, or just use the gui - you'll find it more straight forward
[22:38] <Slart> kazol: what happens if you try to delete it using ... say.. Nautilus? (nautilus=the file manager in gnome)
[22:38] <ikonia> n15t0: what operating system are you using, is the question
[22:38] <timewriter> os = operating system
[22:38] <timewriter> ubuntu is an OS ofc
[22:38] <ikonia> Slart: thats the easy answere
[22:38] <timewriter> windows is another os , and so on
[22:38] <alucard> yes linux ubuntu
[22:38] <marupa> Is there any way to record video from one device and audio from another?
[22:38] <kazol> ikonia: I tried the GUI already; it's not because of the excape char-the dir is "Downloads."
[22:38] <n15t0> yeah linux ubuntu 7.10
[22:38] <kazol> *escape
[22:39] <alucard> version 7.04
[22:39] <ikonia> kazol: looking at the error it is because of the \ chars
[22:39] <timewriter> well , ubuntu 7.10 is pretty secure
[22:39] <timewriter> no need to try exploits on it
[22:39] <n15t0> thanks
[22:39] <Slart> ikonia: I very rarely use rm -rf any more.. wasted 1 year of documents once.. almost had to sleep on the couch for a week.. =)
[22:39] <localgod11> i am booting LTS off of a USB HD and it hangs on mounting root file system on reboot any ideas?
[22:39] <n15t0> then im happy
[22:39] <mnemonica> ...
[22:39] <n15t0> cause i dont want to be hacked
[22:39] <timewriter> you wont be :)
[22:40] <kazol> ikonia: That's weird....
[22:40] <kazol> ikonia: When I ls that dir, I get: "?????:????ߵ?:????  l  l  l  l  l  l"
[22:40] <ikonia> kazol: cd into dowloads and try to delete the 1 dir with -rf and you'll possible get the same error
[22:40] <alucard> tanks
[22:40] <Slart> kazol: those are some weird looking folders.. have you checked the drive for errors?
[22:40] <n15t0> is surfing with a hiddne ip illegal?
[22:40] <timewriter> no
[22:41] <eyemean> soldats, ok once i made room in home folder with nautilus, it seems thunar is working ok now, weird
[22:41] <LjL> !ot
[22:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:41] <kazol> n15t0: lol what is this, China?
[22:41] <unikon> ]n15t0 as long as your just using ubuntu your still way better off than using windows
[22:41] <ikonia> n15t0: look, you sound like your up to no good, with hidden ip and cracking tools, this is an ubuntu support channel only, lets try to stick to that topic
[22:41] <n15t0> i loooove ubuntu
[22:41] <Slart> n15t0: not last time I checked.. and surfing without an IP is very hard indeed.. I would almost say impossible.. but only almost
[22:41] <timewriter> he is dodgy :)
[22:41] <n15t0> no i dont want to do bad
[22:42] <ikonia> ok, so lets drop it and move on please.
[22:42] <timewriter> n15t0 let me clear this up to you : no matter what methods are you using , they will get you
[22:42] <n15t0> i just dont want to be hacked fom someone
[22:42] <ikonia> ok, lets drop that topic and get backto support please.
[22:42] <n15t0> okay
[22:42] <n15t0> i dont ask something like that anymore
[22:42] <n15t0> im sorry
[22:42] <n15t0> :)
[22:42] <timewriter> :)
[22:42] <localgod11> i am booting LTS off of a USB HD and it hangs on mounting root file system on reboot any ideas?
[22:42] <kazol> Slart: Surfing *without* an IP???
[22:43] <soldats> eyemean, hah well im glad you figured it out, i really like thunar its faster for me
[22:43] <Slart> localgod11: broken hard drive?
[22:43] <timewriter> for surfing you need just a surf board :))
[22:43] <ikonia> localgod11: where is your root file system ?
[22:43] <n15t0> i heard of using linux on an xbox360
[22:43] <n15t0> this is very funny
[22:43] <soldats> n15t0, there is a room for security and hacking
[22:43] <ikonia> n15t0: what part of offtopic is not being made clear to you
[22:43] <kazol> n15t0: Don't forget the wifi router, PDA, iPod, etc.
[22:43] <eyemean> soldats, yeah i love it too, and ur right it is slightly faster, which was why i was annoyed went it went mental on me, hahaha
[22:43] <Slart> kazol: yes.. I guess you could use some kind of proxy and communicate with the proxy using.. perhaps some weird network without ip-numbers... that would be surfing without an ip, right ? =)
[22:44] <n15t0> soldats :waht cahnnel?
[22:44] <n15t0> what*
[22:44] <marupa> Anyone here know how to record from separate video and audio devices?
[22:44] <ikonia> n15t0: guys, PLEASE can we drop this topic
[22:44] <ikonia> marupa: record using what application ?
[22:44] <TexasTaz> Be back in a bit guys I am going to put gutsy gibbon back on
[22:44] <n15t0> ikonia:okay
[22:44] <ikonia> marupa: you should be able to specify video and audio streams from most encoders
[22:44] <marupa> ikonia, mencoder, preferrably.
[22:44] <kazol> Slart: I've heard of "IP spoofing" but I don't understand how it's possible on a DSL/cable modem.
[22:44] <ikonia> marupa: that shouldn't be a problem before, I've done something very similar
[22:45] <ikonia> kazol: PLEASE drop it
[22:45] <timewriter> i wish they have gaim on Gutsy
[22:45] <ikonia> timewriter: gaim is dead
[22:45] <kazol> ikonia: Sorry, I'm just curious.
[22:45] <timewriter> and a 2.6.* version of xchat
[22:45] <timewriter> its not
[22:45] <marupa> ikonia, if my video adapter plays in tvtime, it's probably /dev/video0, right?
[22:45] <ikonia> timewriter: pidgin replaced it, same application, new name
[22:45] <timewriter> works for my feisty
[22:45] <ikonia> marupa: normallly
[22:45] <timewriter> yes but with an ugly pidgeon head
[22:45] <ikonia> timewriter: it wasn't dead before feisty
[22:45] <timewriter> i cant see it on my desktop
[22:45] <marupa> ikonia, and my line-in would normally be what though?
[22:45] <KDuB> ( Network Stats ) Device: eth0 | Hostname: GotWork | Data: In: 161.3 MB ( 272 Bytes/sec ) Out: 11.3 MB ( 55 Bytes/sec ), Total: 172.7 MB [ In 93.4% | Out 6.6% ] ( 327 Bytes/sec )
[22:45] <Slart> kazol: where is this download - folder of yours, the one you can't delete?
[22:45] <KDuB> ;/
[22:45] <timewriter> and xchat is bugged
[22:45] <ikonia> KDuB: what are you showing us that
[22:46] <timewriter> the 2.8
[22:46] <n15t0> maybe its not a ubuntu depending question but ehhr i cant watch films there a just like green lines
[22:46]  * KDuB shrugs
[22:46] <KDuB> testing xlack
[22:46] <KDuB> sorry
[22:46] <KDuB> ;/
[22:46] <ikonia> KDuB: so don't, this channel is busy enough as it is, think before posting lines of pointless spam please.
[22:46] <kazol> Slart: There are folders (that act weird and cannot be deleted) within Downloads; I'll try to fsck the partition.
[22:46] <ikonia> kazol: have you been downloading torrents by any chance ?
[22:46] <KDuB> shesh
[22:47] <Slart> kazol: I had something like that happen to me once.. was a usb memory and I couldn't delete certain folders.. fsck found errors on the drive, fixed those and then I could delete the folders..
[22:47] <kazol> ikonia: Massive amounts 24/7.
[22:47] <n15t0> can there be any prob with my graphic card?
[22:47] <ikonia> kazol: you've probably downloaded some dodgy ones with funny char sets
[22:47] <ikonia> kazol: its quite common in wares downloads
[22:47] <Slart> ah.. no more manga for you, kazol.. =)
[22:47] <WARlrus> Hi, I'm having trouble with getting Ubuntu to connect to my wireless network via a Belkin USB wireless dongle. It asks me to enter the WEP key, but then doesn't do anything when I enter the correct key, and eventually asks for it again!
[22:48] <kazol> ikonia: It can't delete the dirs just because of that?
[22:48] <desertc> !wifi | WARlrus
[22:48] <ubotu> WARlrus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:48] <timewriter> kazol try to rm -rf "your weird folder"
[22:48] <desertc> WARlrus: Have you checked the Ubuntu Forums yet?
[22:48] <Slart> timewriter: we tried that.. didn't work
[22:48] <kazol> Slart: So I umount the ext3 LVM LUKS RAID partition and fsck it?
[22:48] <kazol> timewriter: Already tried.
[22:48] <timewriter> did you used "  " ?
[22:48] <WARlrus> Yes, I've been looking through the documentation for my specific adaptor, and haven't found anything
[22:48] <timewriter> whats the output ?
[22:49] <phyz> kazol, i don't remember how, but emacs has a file browser that i recall being able to delete strange names
[22:49] <desertc> What is the specific adapter model number?
[22:49] <Slart> kazol: ouch.. you're using raid and lvm.. never done that... can't really say if that's the way or not.. sorry
[22:49] <kazol> timewriter: ikonia, Slart: I try performing the command "rm -rf Downloads" but I get: "rm: cannot remove directory `Downloads/l': No such file or directory" and then "rm: cannot remove directory `Downloads/\200\031\021\267\262:\310\001\200\354ߵ\262:\310\001\351\003': No such file or directory"
[22:49] <WARlrus> F5D7050
[22:49] <timewriter> hehe
[22:50] <timewriter> you need to rm -rf "/home/kazol/Downloads/\200\031\021\267\262:\310\001\200\354ߵ\262:\310\001\351\003"
[22:50] <timewriter> or whatever is the path
[22:50] <timewriter> use "  "
[22:50] <WARlrus> I think the network is rejecting the key for some reason, but I've no idea why! Its the correct key!
[22:50] <desertc> timewriter: that so looks like someone has set up an ftp server on his box
[22:50] <Slart> timewriter: doesn't rm -rf do that automagically? when it uses recursive deleting?
[22:50] <timewriter> uhm
[22:50] <n15t0> how can i cheack if there are any new updates for nvidia graphic cards? with shell or?
[22:51] <desertc> Slart: The \ is not a new directory, it specifies a special character
[22:51] <timewriter> Slart for some weird named folders you need to put the folder between " "
[22:51] <timewriter> so you can delete it
[22:51] <timewriter> otherwise you get the no such file or directory output
[22:52] <WARlrus> I've just restarted my box, and its come up asking to enter the Passphrase, but when I do that - it does nothing!
[22:52] <kazol> timewriter: "rm: cannot lstat `Downloads/\\200\\031\\021\\267\\262:\\310\\001\\200\\354ߵ\\262:\\310\\001\\351\\003': Invalid argument"
[22:52] <Slart> desertc: it's in Downloads/\200\031..... .so it's a folder in the folder Downloads that is named "\200\031...", or ?
[22:52] <desertc> yes
[22:52] <timewriter> kazol dont copy/paste what i typed , that was just an analogy
[22:52] <Slart> timewriter: yes.. I just thought rm-rf would do that when it descends into a directory structure like that..
[22:52] <timewriter> just put the folder you want to delete on "  "
[22:53] <desertc> Warlrus: Is that a broadcom chipset?
[22:53] <Slart> perhaps using midnight commander or something might be easier..
[22:53] <desertc> WARlrus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627748
[22:53] <timewriter> yes mc would solve the problem proly
[22:54] <desertc> WARlrus: Are you getting errors in your /var/messages ?
[22:54] <kazol> timewriter: I still get invalids arguments.
[22:54] <timewriter> i still believe you are missing something ..
[22:54] <Slart> can you use utf-8 in filenames in ubuntu? or what are the restrictions?
[22:54] <timewriter> kazol try using midnight commander
[22:54] <desertc> slart: Filenames under Linux can be up to 256 characters long and they normally contain letters, numbers, "." (dots), "_" (underscores) and "-" (dashes).
[22:55] <WARlrus> desertc - There's no solution to that problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627748 lol :P
[22:55] <WARlrus> I'll check...
[22:55] <Slart> or perhaps I should ask.. does ext3 support utf-8 in filenames?
[22:55] <soundray> Slart: yes, it does
[22:55] <desertc> WARlrus: There is not much solution for broadcom wifi adapters
[22:55] <desertc> !broadcom
[22:55] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[22:55] <n15t0> lala
[22:55] <Slart> thanks soundray
[22:55] <soundray> Slart: for a minimum of trouble, I tend to stick with the characters that desertc listed above
[22:55] <WARlrus> there is no folder /var/messages :S
[22:56] <netham45> I have a 64-bit 6.06 CD that I want to use to boot to mount an NTFS drive, then burn a CD.
[22:56] <netham45> Ican do this, right?
[22:56] <timewriter> its /var/log/messages
[22:56] <aro> I'm installing Ubuntu 7.10 and it has been sitting at 94% for 30 minutes on step "Loading module 'ide-floppy' for 'Linux IDE floppy'... and I don't even have a floppy disk!!!
[22:56] <ctothej> what is the third party "partner" repo in the software sources? what does it have?
[22:56] <Slart> soundray: yes.. same here.. just wondering.. one of these days I'll unpack something and find weird filenames.. with chinese characters or something
[22:56] <desertc> WARlrus: yeah, log/messages
[22:56] <timewriter> aro relax
[22:56] <timewriter> it is loaded by default
[22:56] <desertc> aro: Is the CD corrupted?
[22:56] <aro> I'm relaxed, I didn't mean to include that many exclamations :)
[22:56] <andruk> anybody know how to get kile working with aspell on gnome?
[22:56] <aro> desertc: not that I'm aware of, I've used it perfectly recently
[22:56] <n15t0> can i make a directory which is saved with a password...like typing in the password then i can see the things that are in the folder?
[22:57] <desertc> aro: You might check the integrity of the disk
[22:57] <aro> timewriter: but should it take 30 minutes? The CD isn't even being accessed anymore
[22:57] <aro> desertc: I guess I can try
[22:57] <desertc> aro: that's an option when you boot to it
[22:57] <timewriter> thats not the floppy module`s fault i guess
[22:57] <Slart> n15t0: I don't think so... you can either see it or not.. I don't think you get a password prompt
[22:57] <aro> desertc: I know.
[22:57] <desertc> aro: how did you make it?
[22:57] <aro> desertc: It's just a burned iso
[22:57] <desertc> aro: or is it a ship-it cd?
[22:57] <aro> desertc: I've used it to install recently and everything was fine.
[22:57] <desertc> aro: yeah, sometimes there is no checking on the disks
[22:58] <WARlrus> I did have this device working on my old version of Ubuntu...
[22:58] <WARlrus> desertc: I'm not seeing any errors in /var/log/messages
[22:58] <timewriter> maybe it got damaged meanwhile
[22:58] <timewriter> check cd for errors
[22:58] <n15t0> Slart: hmm..isn't there any code or something that protects your folder with a password? :(
[22:58] <WARlrus> One from the last reboot was "eth0: link down", but I'm not using eth0
[22:58] <Preyor> <_< I have a very frustrating problem, can anyone help me?
[22:58] <Slart> n15t0: you could encrypt it.. check out truecrypt for example
[22:58] <andruk> Preyor: just ask
[22:58] <soundray> Preyor: depends on the problem
[22:58] <Slart> !truecrypt
[22:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <andruk> Preyor: we cant know or even try until you ask ;-)
[22:59] <n15t0> i looked for truecrypt twice but i couldnt get it installed
[22:59] <Slart> oh.. ubotu.. you fail me again.. no cookie
[22:59] <norty> i have ubuntu 7.10 installed, does this come with whatever i need to write python scripts? where is the python directly?
[22:59] <Slart> !info truecrypt
[22:59] <s32aph> no dpkg.. help!
[22:59] <ubotu> Package truecrypt does not exist in gutsy
[22:59] <timewriter> trueeNcrypt
[22:59] <andruk> anybody know how to get kile working with aspell on gnome?
[22:59] <Preyor> well, ive got an ubutu iso, and i want to install it on a harddrive to take home and plug inot my computer there, but all three seem to have differetn reasons they wont work
[22:59] <timewriter> just a single e sorry
[22:59] <ikonia> apologies, my phone went
[22:59] <n15t0> !info truecrypt
[22:59] <ubotu> Package truecrypt does not exist in gutsy
[22:59] <ikonia> norty: python is installed by default
[22:59] <timewriter> !truencrypt
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truencrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <timewriter> omg
[23:00] <timewriter> !trueencrypt
[23:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trueencrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <timewriter> pff
[23:00] <norty> ikonia, where is it located?
[23:00] <norty> i looked in /usr/local but its not there
[23:00] <Slart> nope.. it's called truecrypt.. but I don't know what the package is called
[23:00] <Deon> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 on CD, and was wondering if theres someway the CD can be loaded to RAM or something because my CD drive makes an awful noise while it's working, and it's so annoying..
[23:00] <andruk> !truecrypt
[23:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <andruk> lol
[23:00] <timewriter> so its true crypt , not true encrypt
[23:00] <n15t0> !truecrypt
[23:00] <timewriter> ok
[23:00] <ikonia> norty: /usr/bin
[23:00] <timewriter> never used it
[23:00] <desertc> WARlrus: sorry, I don't know much about wifi - I don't use it much
[23:00] <soundray> Guys, can you please stop fishing with the bot
[23:00] <clarezoe> anyone here?
[23:01] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me how I can make the terminal transparent?
[23:01] <Preyor> one gets stuck at verifying dmi pool data, the other cant find ntldr files, and the third is apparently failure imminent according to something called s.m.a.r.t. disk
[23:01] <Rencore_> ⚇
[23:01] <clarezoe> I don't have internet
[23:01] <timewriter> mikebeecham you need to edit properties
[23:01] <ikonia> mikebeecham: preferences in the termanal
[23:01] <greencookie> whassup
[23:01] <ikonia> terminal
[23:01] <timewriter> preferences .
[23:01] <clarezoe> I'm using live CD
[23:01] <andruk> soundray: sorry, just seems it should have something (anything) on truecrypt
[23:01] <timewriter> you dint have internet ?
[23:01] <timewriter> well thats weird
[23:01] <n15t0> !truecrypt
[23:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:01] <norty> ikonia, that is where the executable is, where is the directory?
[23:01] <ikonia> n15t0: you've done that 3 times
[23:01] <trpr> n15t0: try truecrypt.org ;)
[23:01] <soundray> !msgthebot | andruk, n15t0
[23:01] <ubotu> andruk, n15t0: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:02] <Slart> n15t0: if you want to torture the bot.. do it in a private chat...
[23:02] <mikebeecham> ikonia: I dont see preferences within the terminal?
[23:02] <timewriter> norty locate python |grep bin
[23:02] <ikonia> norty: what directory, there isn't one, its libs, binaries broke out across the file system
[23:02] <ikonia> mikebeecham: edit -> preferences
[23:02] <kazol> Slart, timewriter: I found a way to rm the dirs-I just did it on the server. Turns out Ubuntu didn't recognize Cyrillic.
[23:02] <n15t0> no sry
[23:02] <clarezoe> I don't know how to make it without internet, I can connect to internet using liveCD
[23:02] <IdleOne> !info easycrypt
[23:02] <ubotu> Package easycrypt does not exist in gutsy
[23:02] <andruk> soundray: oh, thanks, i didnt know to do that
[23:02] <norty> ok
[23:02] <Preyor> can anyone help me?
[23:02] <n15t0> i dont know this chat yet
[23:02] <timewriter> lol so its russian
[23:02] <mikebeecham> ikonia: got it :D
[23:02] <ikonia> Preyor: maybe if you ask a question
[23:02] <ikonia> mikebeecham: ok
[23:02] <Slart> kazol: oh? how did you delete it then? command line?
[23:02] <soundray> n15t0: all the more reason to tread carefully
[23:02] <clarezoe> anyone can help, or just tell me how to recover it by liveCD
[23:02] <Preyor> well
[23:02] <ikonia> clarezoe: recover what ?
[23:03] <Deon> anyone? :*
[23:03] <Deon> :(*
[23:03] <clarezoe> ikonia, internet stuff
[23:03] <soundray> Preyor: is there any reason you're not taking the CD home with you and do the install there?
[23:03] <timewriter> clarezoe you obviously HAVE internet
[23:03] <ikonia> Deon: what ?
[23:03] <Preyor> [14:59] <Preyor> well, ive got an ubutu iso, and i want to install it on a harddrive to take home and plug into my computer there, but all three seem to have different reasons they wont work
[23:03] <ikonia> clarezoe: what sort of stuff
[23:03] <n15t0> ill learn to use this caht
[23:03] <n15t0> im sry :(
[23:03] <Deon> ikonia: Can the livecd be loaded to RAM
[23:03] <timewriter> lol
[23:03] <SpookyET> Beagle is annoying me. It won't index Thunderbird emails. Any ideas?
[23:03] <Deon> and run from there
[23:03] <ikonia> Deon: it is loaded into ram, thats how it works
[23:03] <clarezoe> ikonia, I can't connect to internet, I'm using liveCD
[23:03] <Preyor> [15:01] <Preyor> one gets stuck at verifying dmi pool data, the other cant findntldr files, and the third is apparently failure imminent according to something called s.m.a.r.t. disk
[23:03] <Deon> yes but I mean totally so the CD isn't read from at all
[23:03] <ikonia> clarezoe: what type of connection to you want to use
[23:03] <timewriter> clarezoe you can
[23:03] <Slart> Deon: well.. you could download the iso and mount the iso, like a cd.. kind of like daemon tools under windows
[23:03] <ikonia> Preyor: ntldr is windows,
[23:04] <timewriter> just edit your network preferences while using LIVE CD
[23:04] <Preyor> why cant i just boot the ubuntu disk then?
[23:04] <Deon> Ok.. what about running it from a USBHDD?
[23:04] <ikonia> Preyor: because you've installed it using the config of another system
[23:04] <timewriter> Preyor what you mean by you cant boot it ?
[23:04] <ikonia> Deon: do-able, but needs effort
[23:04] <timewriter> whats the error ?
[23:04] <Slart> Deon: you won't be able to boot from it.. for that you'll be stuck with the CD
[23:04] <IdleOne> timewriter: stop stating the obvious and read between the lines . clarezoe cant connect to internet when booting the installed os and that is why they are using the livecd.
[23:04] <Deon> Aw :(
[23:04] <Preyor> all three refuse to boot the disk, and stop at those various places
[23:05] <Deon> What if I were to copy all the CDs files onto the HDD?
[23:05] <ikonia> Preyor: boot from the cdrom, and install using the computer you want to use, don't move the disk around
[23:05] <timewriter> IdleOne i read what he typed
[23:05] <clarezoe> IdleOne, you are write
[23:05] <timewriter> lol
[23:05] <ikonia> Deon: it doesn't work like that
[23:05] <Deon> nuts :P
[23:05] <clarezoe> IdleOne, sorry you are right
[23:05] <ikonia> timewriter: it's not funny
[23:05] <Preyor> ok, ill try that then, thank you
[23:05] <timewriter> well sorry :))
[23:06] <Preyor> but is there an easy way to just wipe the hd ?
[23:06] <IdleOne> timewriter: reading people on irc is not about the words used but the intention of the words. would serve you well to get off your high horse and try and be helpful
[23:06] <Deon> thanks for everything, anyway
[23:06] <ikonia> Preyor: yeah sure, destroy the partition, format the file system
[23:06] <clarezoe> timewriter, how can I make changes while using live CD
[23:06] <Preyor> how? or should i just google it?
[23:06] <timewriter> that would be pretty hard for you too , IdleOne , if your native language wouldnt be english
[23:06] <ikonia> clarezoe: its stored in ram, so your changes will be stored until you reboot
[23:06] <timewriter> clarezoe you can make temporarily changes
[23:07] <soundray> Preyor: when you use the normal installer, you get a chance to assign the whole disk to Ubuntu.
[23:07] <Preyor> yes, but it wont boot the disk or the installer, its stops at ntldr missing
[23:07] <timewriter> thats an windows error
[23:07] <ikonia> Preyor: no it doesn't boot the cdrom !
[23:07] <timewriter> not a linux one
[23:07] <Preyor> it tells me to insert a system disk and press enter
[23:07] <timewriter> Preyor that is a windows error
[23:07] <ikonia> Preyor: I've explained to you that ntldr is part of your windows install
[23:08] <Slart> clarezoe: just checking here if I understand this right.. you can't connect to internet when you boot from the hard drive.. but when you use the same computer and a Live CD, it works.. right?
[23:08] <danc3> Preyor: you're not booting from the CDROM if you're seeing that error message
[23:08] <clarezoe> Slart, exactly
[23:08] <Preyor> hmmm ok, ive gone into the boot menu and chosen cdrom though
[23:08] <eVipere> Hey, where's the option to change the window manager to emerald for compiz-fusion?
[23:08] <ikonia> Slart: well picked up, I didn't see that as the problem
[23:08] <timewriter> clarezoe if youre isp is using DHCP , you need to edit your network interface
[23:08] <n15t0> can i shut my computer down with a command in the shell? like shutdown or something?
[23:08] <ikonia> n15t0: shutdown -h now
[23:08] <Slart> clarezoe: how do you connect to internet? modem? adsl? cable (comhem?)
[23:08] <ikonia> n15t0: init 0
[23:08] <n15t0> ahh
[23:08] <timewriter> in fact you need to edit it in both ways , dhcp or not
[23:08] <n15t0> thx
[23:08] <n15t0> and restart
[23:09] <n15t0> for restart :D
[23:09] <ikonia> n15t0: thats reboot, or shutdown -r now, or init 6
[23:09] <clarezoe> Slart, I'm using cable dhcp
[23:09] <timewriter> mine is using dhcp but ubuntu doesnt take the ip`s automatically
[23:09] <eVipere> I just use halt -p
[23:09] <n15t0> ahh okay
[23:09] <n15t0> soo can i set a timer for it,too?
[23:09] <timewriter> so i cant connect to internet until i dont edit my network interface
[23:09] <ikonia> n15t0: yes
[23:09] <Preyor> How do i make sure that im booting from the cd?
[23:09] <robzilla> i'm having trouble with an external hard drive that Ubuntu doesn't recognize. It's a Hitachi
[23:09] <ikonia> Preyor: you'll see the ubuntu spalsh
[23:09] <ikonia> splash
[23:09] <danc3> Preyor: choose it in bios
[23:09] <n15t0> sutdown -h 5minutes or how?
[23:10] <n15t0> shutdown*Ã
[23:10] <ikonia> n15t0: seconds, shudown -h 300
[23:10] <timewriter> shutdown -h now
[23:10] <Preyor> ok, so the boot menu wont work then?
[23:10] <ikonia> n15t0: man shutdown
[23:10] <narothepharoh> how do i enable sound in xubuntu?
[23:10] <ikonia> timewriter: he said 5 minutes
[23:10] <marupa> Bah.  I'm trying to figure out how to record (at the moment) just video from my video in card (NOT tuner), it should be /dev/video0, but when I do 'mplayer /dev/video0' it does nothing.
[23:10] <danc3> Preyor: most BIOS's allow you to press a key (F12 is common) to choose the boot source
[23:10] <timewriter> yes but its better now :)
[23:10] <Preyor> mine's f11
[23:10] <danc3> Preyor: by the time you see a boot menu, it's too late
[23:10] <desertc> ⚇   ⚇   ⚇   ⚇  Did you check the ALSA channel settings, narothepharoh ?
[23:10] <n15t0> i asked if i could set a timer
[23:10] <danc3> well there ya go
[23:10] <clarezoe> it works fine before, but I uninstalled SCIM, and restarted X and internet is gone
[23:10] <Slart> clarezoe: have you recently installed ubuntu? has the internet connection ever worked before? have you changed anything in ubuntu? installed firewalls? anything else?
[23:10] <WARlrus> Okay, I've tried following the information on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but it doesn't seem to work
[23:10] <ikonia> timewriter: if you don't want to help him - don't respond. Your starting to casue a little bit of a problem
[23:10] <dthomas218> I installed Ubuntu Server GG, then I installed the graphical interface. Everything works, but now I can't figure out how to choose terminal mode between Gnome on bootup, I always get the latter. I've looked online, this has to be easy!
[23:10] <WARlrus> anyone got any other ideas?!
[23:10] <n15t0> thx ikonia
[23:10] <timewriter> come`one boys , smile a bit
[23:10] <n15t0> :)
[23:10] <Preyor> oooo, ok, so then how do i chooce the boot earlier?
[23:10] <timewriter> life is not so serious
[23:10] <narothepharoh> desertc: how do i do that?
[23:10] <netham45> :)
[23:11] <Slart> scim?
[23:11] <clarezoe> Slart, it works fine before, but I uninstalled SCIM, and restarted X and internet is gone
[23:11] <ikonia> timewriter: offering false information is not funny ina  support channel. Help users, or don't
[23:11] <clarezoe> Slart, yes
[23:11] <danc3> Preyor: I just told you, press F11 and choose CDROM
[23:11] <ikonia> timewriter: but stop messing around
[23:11] <danc3> sheesh
[23:11] <timewriter> ok :)
[23:11] <danc3> ikonia: are you a channel ops?
[23:11] <Preyor> thats what ive been doing, and it tells me the ntldr is missing
[23:11] <desertc> narothepharoh: one sec
[23:11] <ikonia> danc3: no, not in this channel
[23:11] <danc3> Preyor: you must be doing it wrong
[23:11] <Slart> but.. scim is about keyboard input and such... it can't affect network connectivity.. can it??
[23:11] <timewriter> Preyor , you need to enter bios
[23:11] <clarezoe> Slart, is there's any simple way that recover from livecd?
[23:12] <robzilla> has anyone had trouble with external hard drives being mounted by ubuntu?
[23:12] <timewriter> and on boot options , set CD-rom as 1st boot devince
[23:12] <danc3> ikonia: ok, just wondering why you're bossing others around....
[23:12] <ikonia> Preyor: it's not booting from cdrom then, it's booting from the hard disk
[23:12] <timewriter> device* even
[23:12] <desertc> narothepharoh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[23:12] <WARlrus> My actual dongle is being recognised, its picking up the nearby networks, but its rejecting my network Key - even when I know its correct!
[23:12] <timewriter> than save and exit bios
[23:12] <ikonia> danc3: I'm not bossing anyone around, I'm asking a person to respect the channels rules
[23:12] <Preyor> ok, i will try bios then, thank you all
[23:12] <timewriter> you have to
[23:12] <danc3> ikonia: that's the channel op's job....
[23:12] <Slart> clarezoe: that's all you did? everything worked.. you uninstalled scim and then it didn't work..?
[23:12] <timewriter> otherwise it will not try to boot from cd
[23:12] <ikonia> danc3: there are none around,
[23:12] <clarezoe> Slart, yes
[23:12] <desertc> WARlrus: Have you tried disabling the security and seeing if it works that way?
[23:12] <Slart> clarezoe: have you tried reinstalling scim?
[23:12] <WARlrus> Thats not something I can do unfortunately!
[23:13] <marupa> danc3, considering there are no ops, someone has to take charge.
[23:13] <danc3> lol, right
[23:13] <danc3> yeah ok
[23:13] <clarezoe> Slart, I don't have internet, can't reinstall then, can't connect to the source
[23:13] <WARlrus> Theres many other computers on the network, and I doubt that messing up all of them would please my parents! hehe
[23:13] <dug_> if you really need ops, type !  ops
[23:13] <Slart> marupa: there are ops.. they are just hiding =)
[23:13] <Dr_willis> marupa,  there are Ops around.. and i imagine that theya re getting sick of the rambling on about no ops. :)
[23:13] <robzilla> can anyone read what I'm writing/
[23:13] <ikonia> robzilla: yes
[23:13] <Dr_willis> robzilla,  if we say NO  what will that mean? :P
[23:13] <clarezoe> Slart, It's wired, I don't know what to do without internet, and I can't make any changes with internet in livecd
[23:14] <marupa> Any ideas on why my video-in adapter works in tvtime, but not in mplayer?
[23:14] <n15t0> can is save my options what i changed in bitchx? like the name and the channel?
[23:14] <SpookyET> Does Thunderbird need a Beagle extension like firefox? I googled and found one. It's not indexing thunderbird.
[23:14] <ikonia> marupa: mplayer doesn't have a decoder
[23:14] <robzilla> it'll would at least answer my Q's:-/
[23:14] <Slart> clarezoe: ah.. but you can install from the live cd.. I think you just have to insert the cd when you're running from the hard drive.. it will popup a dialog asking if you want to use the cd as a software source or something like that.. just answer yes and try reinstalling scim
[23:14] <timewriter> clarezoe , did you tried to manually input ip , netmask , gateway , name server on your network interface preferences ?
[23:14] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  i would suggest reading the various BitchX tutorials that exist.
[23:14] <MrGreencastle> Why is it that everytime I login to Gutsy it takes almost 5 minutes to start? Its a clean install and it does this on my friends installation aswell.
[23:14] <marupa> ikonia, How would I test my settings then?
[23:14] <Slart> clarezoe: if you don't get the popup you can always go into "system, administration, software sources" and add the cd that way
[23:15] <ikonia> marupa: test your settings, if mplayer doesn't have a decoder you can't test it
[23:15] <ubuntu> hello
[23:15] <marupa> ikonia, if tvtime can decode it, mplayer should be able to.
[23:15] <danc3> MrGreencastle: probably negotiating an IP address with DHCP... are you connected to a router when booting?
[23:15] <n15t0> can is save my options what i changed in bitchx? like the name and the channel?
[23:15] <danc3> n15t0: yes
[23:15] <ikonia> marupa: why, they are different applications, marupa tvtime will have a decoder on it,
[23:15] <clarezoe> Slart, Ok I'll reboot and try that, wish me goodluck
[23:15] <robzilla>  question: if ubuntu recognizes one brand of exteernal hard drive but not another is it safe to say that the one it doesn't recognize wont work at all/
[23:15] <Slart> clarezoe: go kick some ubuntu butt..
[23:16] <n15t0> danc3:how?
[23:16] <ikonia> marupa: I'm not aware of anyone trying to use mplayer as a video in/tc decoder
[23:16] <ikonia> tv
[23:16] <oreth> hey ikonia
[23:16] <oreth> any news concerning flash
[23:16] <ikonia> oreth: hello
[23:16] <oreth> ?
[23:16] <MrGreencastle> danc3: Yes, but how does that make metacity not start properly or fusion-icon not start EVEN though its in the startup session
[23:16] <danc3> n15t0: I'm not sure, but I bet if you read the bitchx man page you could find out
[23:16] <Dr_willis> robzilla,  depends on whats not recognizing it.. check 'dmesg' and 'sudo fdisk -l' see if its seen there.. it may just be amounting issue
[23:16] <WARlrus> AHH! I'm getting an error in /var/log/messages now... its saying "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready"
[23:16] <ikonia> oreth: yes, there is a backport pending from the hardy package
[23:16] <marupa> ikonia, then how would I record video from my video-in adapter?
[23:16] <MrGreencastle> my network manager icon doesn't start either
[23:16] <danc3> MrGreencastle: I don't know about that
[23:16] <WARlrus> and then "wlan0: duplicate address detected"
[23:16] <n15t0> !bitchx
[23:16] <ikonia> marupa: use a capture program
[23:16] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[23:16] <marupa> ikonia, such as?
[23:16] <ikonia> oreth: things are moving slower than expected
[23:16]  * oreth nods
[23:16] <ikonia> marupa: no idea, I don't use one
[23:17] <Slart> can uninstalling SCIM really kill your internet connection??? sounds very weird...
[23:17] <robzilla> I've tried all that and it doesn't recognize it anywhere. My personal laptop recognized it just fine
[23:17] <MrGreencastle> I always have to open a terminal and type metacity --replace
[23:17] <ikonia> oreth: it is "fixed" though, just not released
[23:17] <danc3> n15t0: open a terminal and type "man bitchx" and then read it
[23:17]  * oreth considers grabbing emacs and messing with it for the mean time
[23:17] <MrGreencastle> then compiz --replace everytime I start....
[23:17] <cizarr> how could i copy from the putty console?
[23:17] <timewriter> right click them copy
[23:17] <timewriter> then*
[23:17] <ikonia> cizarr: just hightlight and middle mouse button in a new terminal
[23:17] <timewriter> oh you mean putty
[23:17] <timewriter> you cant
[23:17] <timewriter> not on linux
[23:17] <ikonia> yes you can
[23:17] <desertc> timewriter: :)
[23:17] <danc3> sure you can
[23:18] <ikonia> you just need to highliight it
[23:18] <cizarr> i have no middle mouse ikonia
[23:18] <danc3> it's called "gpm"
[23:18] <timewriter> nope
[23:18] <Dr_willis> I cut/paste with/from putty.exe all the time.
[23:18] <desertc> cizarr: press both buttons at once
[23:18] <timewriter> he means a single line
[23:18] <ikonia> cizarr: then both mouse buttons emmulate middle button
[23:18] <dug_> in ubuntu terminal, you shift-control-c to copy, in putty, I think i right click and copy
[23:18] <danc3> timewriter: yes, highlight and paste
[23:18] <timewriter> mhm
[23:18] <trpr> heh. select the text in putty. it is automatically copied. last i checked the clipboard worked allot like X in putty
[23:18] <WARlrus> what does "wlan0: duplicate address detected!" mean?
[23:18] <cizarr> cool thanks !
[23:18] <timewriter> never tried
[23:19] <Dr_willis> WARlrus,  sounds like a machine i allready usign the ip perhaps?
[23:19] <danc3> timewriter: then you shouldn't give (false) advice, if you've never tried
[23:19] <white_eagle> wow
[23:19] <timewriter> never tried the both buttons
[23:19] <timewriter> tried to copy
[23:19] <timewriter> didnt worked
[23:19] <WARlrus> Dr_willis: it should be assigned a unique address by the router though :S
[23:19] <Dr_willis> WARlrus,  'should' :) check the router perhaps?
[23:19] <heatmzzr> ubuntu and totem wont play a dvd, why and how do I fix it?
[23:20] <Slart> !dvd | heatmzzr
[23:20] <Dr_willis> !dvd | heatmzzr
[23:20] <ubotu> heatmzzr: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:20] <timewriter> heatmzzr remove totem and apt-get install vlc
[23:20] <WARlrus> well its a BT HomeHub, and I've set the Hub up to assign a static IP and still get the problem
[23:20] <n15t0> can i still change my computer's name? or do i have it until i reinstall whole ubuntu?
[23:20] <timewriter> you can change it
[23:20] <clarezoe> Slart, so wired that, after 2 times restarting, it works now
[23:20] <ikonia> Nilbus: you can change your hostname any time
[23:20] <Slart> clarezoe: ah.. sweet
[23:20] <n15t0> timewriter:how?
[23:20] <ikonia> oops
[23:20] <ikonia> n15t0: you can change your hostname
[23:20] <_____jan> hellow
[23:20] <_____jan> i use LAMP
[23:20] <Aldoliel> Right guys I have a very puzzling problem for ya
[23:20] <timewriter> n15t0 type sudo hostname your-desired-hostname
[23:20] <Slart> clarezoe: I still don't understand why uninstalling scim would break your network.. but life is weird like that
[23:20] <cizarr> :/ the copy method on putty doesnt work
[23:20] <ikonia> timewriter: that won't set it
[23:21] <_____jan> so...i have to ask u how can i add user to ftp
[23:21] <timewriter> cizarr i told you
[23:21] <timewriter> :))
[23:21] <kev_b> Can anyone tell me why in Bluefish the tabs aren't draggable but this says they are: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TabConsistency ?
[23:21] <ikonia> n15t0: etc /etc/hostname
[23:21] <cristhian> hi, any idea how to convert pal video formats to ntsc ?
[23:21] <n15t0> okay
[23:21] <clarezoe> Slart, maybe that is why ubuntu is attactive
[23:21] <ikonia> n15t0: edit /etc/hostname that should lread
[23:21] <clarezoe> sorry,attractive
[23:21] <_____jan> cos i can do everything except this...sudo gedit /etc/shells
[23:21] <Aldoliel> Just done an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, and now wired networking is broken
[23:21] <cizarr> it only work if u copy/paste in the putty console
[23:21] <Dr_willis> cristhian,  thats.. interesting. You have Pal .avi files?
[23:21] <Slart> clarezoe: hehe.. could be.. although I would prefer a predictable os over an interesting one.. =)
[23:22] <cristhian> yeah i have lots
[23:22] <jb0nd38372> I have a quick question about memory usage.  I have 2 gig of memory, and I notice thru the system monitor that 10% is in use by programs, and 70% used by "cache" is that a disk cache, and will it get smaller or juste keep increasing.
[23:22] <bluefoxx> hey, im having some trouble playing nethack-gnome, and heres terminal output> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47623/ <
[23:22] <n15t0> i have no write permission
[23:22] <ikonia> n15t0: use sudo
[23:22] <Slart> _____jan: use gksu with gnome applications.. sudo with command line.
[23:22] <timewriter> n15t0 use sudo
[23:22] <n15t0> okay
[23:22] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: thats an I/O cache, it will change size to accomodate programs that need memory
[23:22] <timewriter> that file is owned by root
[23:22] <Aldoliel> NetworkManager claims there is a connection but there isn't one, and when I manually configure one the interface doesn't even appear in ifconfig
[23:22] <_____jan> umm
[23:23] <_____jan> what is gksu:D
[23:23] <n15t0> unknown mime-type
[23:23] <cristhian> yes Dr Willis, many pal .avi any suggestion ?
[23:23] <n15t0> ??
[23:23] <pgdex> jb0nd38372: The hard disk cache is only used when other programs don't need it. Linux is quite smart that way
[23:23] <Dr_willis> cristhian,  as far as i know. its just a matter of the  resoultion of the video file.  In fact ive not even heard pal/ntsc mentioned in ages..  :)  avidmux can proberly do it.
[23:23] <Slart> jb0nd38372: it will use all available memory.. but it will let it go if a program needs it..
[23:23] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[23:23] <scguy318> ______jan: graphical su
[23:23] <wols> _____jan: gksudo
[23:23] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[23:23] <cizarr> is there any way to mute the 'beeps' that come from the computer hardware(i think) on ubuntu?
[23:23] <pgdex> Aldoliel: ifconfig -a ?
[23:23] <scguy318> wols: not necessarily, su is different from sudo :P
[23:23] <Dr_willis> cristhian,  avidemux can doo all sorts of conversions.
[23:23] <Slart> jb0nd38372: unused memory is wasted memory.. using it as cache makes stuff go faster.. it's a good thing
[23:23] <_____jan> so if i type gksudo /etc/shell
[23:23] <pgdex> cizarr: setterm
[23:23] <Aldoliel> Same, just shows the loopback interface
[23:23] <_____jan> is it ok?
[23:23] <scguy318> wols: since you could decide to run an app under the context of a diff user other than root
[23:23] <jb0nd38372> oh hi there scguy318 , yeah i've noticed everytime I load something the cache size increases, so when it gets to 100% will it start clearing out?
[23:23] <soundray_> cizarr: System-Preferences-Sound -- System Beep
[23:23] <cristhian> oh good. i ll try it , thx
[23:23] <timewriter> cizarr that beep is the motherboard or case speaker
[23:23] <timewriter> you need to unplug it i guess
[23:24] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: yes
[23:24] <pgdex> Aldoliel: seems like the drivers have gone awol
[23:24] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: its basically a buffer for caching disk I/O
[23:24] <cizarr> thanks again!
[23:24] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: since its faster to read/write to memory than disk
[23:24] <jb0nd38372> k, thanks scguy318 appreicate all the help you've given me
[23:24] <n15t0> ikonia: warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/hostname" -- using "application/*"
[23:24] <clarezoe> See you guys, I'm gonna sleep
[23:24] <ikonia> n15t0: what are you doing ?
[23:24] <jb0nd38372> scguy318, oh so basically it serves as a ram disk of sorts
[23:24] <n15t0> sudo edit /etc/hostname
[23:24] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: np
[23:25] <Slart> good night clarezoe
[23:25] <buddhaboy> can someone tell me what channel to go to, if I have issues with 7.10 (fresh install, getting stuck at boot)?
[23:25] <eyemean> is there anything other than thunar i can use? every now and then it goes mental on me again, ol
[23:25] <scguy318> jb0nd38372: yes
[23:25] <Aldoliel> Thats what i thought, i'll try finding out what module should be being used, be back in a bit
[23:25] <ikonia> n15t0: I don't know why edit can't work out the mime type, try nano
[23:25] <Slart> buddhaboy: this would be the place.. just ask away
[23:25] <wols> buddhaboy: you are in the right channel
[23:25] <pgdex> buddhaboy: here or the forum
[23:25] <scguy318> eyemean: nautlius, but that's GNOME :P
[23:25] <n15t0> sudo nano etc/hostname?
[23:25] <tupson> Hi, I have a Raedon 9600 ATI video card installed in my inspirion 9200 and i currently have the latest FGLRX drivers installed, however I continue to receive "Desktop Effects could not be enabled" help?
[23:25] <n15t0> sudo nano /etc/hostname?
[23:25] <buddhaboy> ahhh ok pgdex, thanks
[23:25] <wols> s32aph: #ubuntu cannot help with knoppix
[23:25] <eyemean> scguy318, yeah dats wat i was using before
[23:25] <pgdex> n15t0: that's right
[23:25] <emily> I'm running ubuntu using compiz fusion and I find everytime I run package manager I get a remnant of the password box permenantly "burned" into my screen until I restart X.  Is this a known bug? Any way to fix it?
[23:26] <pgdex> n15t0: or sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[23:26] <n15t0> okay it worked
[23:26] <wols> tupson: you need xserver-xgl
[23:26] <Optimus55> anyone have a link to the full list of grub modifiers?
[23:26] <timewriter> tupson you need to install xserver-xgl
[23:26] <buddhaboy> how common is the "Running local boot scripts" error with fresh installs?
[23:26] <bluefoxx> is there a support chat for nethack-gnome?
[23:26] <ikonia> emily: what video card
[23:26] <tupson> link?
[23:26] <timewriter> i can give you a link
[23:26] <Dr_willis> Optimus55,  grub modifiers?
[23:26] <soundray_> !gksu | pgdex
[23:26] <ubotu> pgdex: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:26] <Slart> emily: sounds like something is not like it should be
[23:26] <ikonia> buddhaboy: what error is that
[23:26] <aro> !fonts
[23:26] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[23:26] <Optimus55> Dr_willis: yeah there's a list with details about all the commands... noapic, irqpoll.. etc
[23:27] <Dr_willis> Optimus55,  those are kernel options. :) not really grub related.
[23:27] <ikonia> Optimus55: they are kernel options, not grub options
[23:27] <soundray_> !bootoptions | Optimus55
[23:27] <ubotu> Optimus55: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:27] <Slart> Optimus55: google for grub... there is a site with documentation.. the menu.lst file contains some info too
[23:27] <ikonia> Optimus55: a lot are detailed in the kernel text docs
[23:27] <emily> ikonia: quadro fx 2500
[23:27] <emily> Slart: yeah I know -- just don't know where.
[23:27] <n15t0> when will the cahnges be refreshed?
[23:27] <ikonia> n15t0: when you reboot
[23:27] <n15t0> after reboot?
[23:27] <n15t0> okay
[23:27] <n15t0> be here in a sec
[23:28] <buddhaboy> ikonia: i did a fresh install, and before the first prompt right at "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ok]"  cursor freezes there
[23:28] <ehc> is there a way to export python code into a pdf or odf document with color highlighting?
[23:28] <Zemp_> heey all, just got my gusty laptop runnin :-)
[23:28] <pgdex> Zemp_: gratulations
[23:28] <buddhaboy> ikonia: i just hit enter and then i get a prompt
[23:28] <ikonia> wols: who was in earlier complaining about rc.local failing to boot, and you spotted two or three suspeicious scripts ?
[23:28] <Zemp_> pgdex: ty
[23:28] <pgdex> :D
[23:28] <wols> ikonia: any S99script
[23:28] <funkman733> ciao
[23:28] <emily> Slart: Any ideas?
[23:28] <buddhaboy> ikonia: I read in the forums, that there was bad scripts??
[23:28] <wols> ikonia: and he gave up afaik
[23:29] <ikonia> wols: no, there was someone in earlier who had a messy rc.local
[23:29] <ikonia> wols: you gave him some help
[23:29] <emily> Slart: or at least a place to check?
[23:29] <ikonia> ooh, he gave up
[23:29] <Slart> emily: is everything working alright apart from that problem? graphics working? can you run glxgears?
[23:29] <wols> ikonia: rc.local is not mssy. it'S the default script that executes /etc/rc.local which you are supposed to edit, not /etc/init.d/rclocal
[23:29] <Slart> emily: never heard of that problem before.. so I don't have any "ready to use, just add water"-solutions...
[23:29] <wols> ikonia: needed to make the start|stop|restart stuff to work mainly
[23:30] <ikonia> wols: I know that, I thought there was someone in earlier who had a messed up one
[23:30] <cizarr> when trying 'apt-get update' im getting "The following signature couldnt be verified because the public key is not available..." anyone familiar with this issue?
[23:30] <tupson> Wols: where can i get info. on xserver-xgl
[23:30] <chesterm> I need a tutorial that helps me making a metacity theme! somebody knows anyone better than this? http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[23:30] <buddhaboy> wols: that's the error i was told to look at because of my problem. but everything seems to be in order /etc/even.d
[23:30] <wols> !compiz | tupson
[23:30] <ubotu> tupson: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:30] <emily> Slart: yeah. I even have Cedega running fine. It's just that darn login box. The only other wierd glitch is that ie under wine leavs artifacts from the right click menu permanantly on the screen in the same way.
[23:30] <ikonia> chesterm: look on the forum in graphics and artwork
[23:30] <squarebracket> what's the command to get the PID for a process name?
[23:30] <n15t0> okay back
[23:30] <ikonia> squarebracket: ps
[23:30] <wols> ps aux |grep name
[23:30] <chesterm> thanks ikonia
[23:30] <squarebracket> ikonia: thanks
[23:31] <wols> squarebracket: or simply pidof name
[23:31] <timewriter> tupson i have msged you
[23:31] <drgeb> Slart did the .xsessions-error give you any info what problems I am facing with loggin ??
[23:31] <timewriter> apt-get install xserver-xgl
[23:31] <timewriter> but if you are on feisty you need to remove some stuff first
[23:31] <Slart> emily: it sounds like some software isn't updating their graphics window properly.. hang on.. I'll do some searching..
[23:31] <bluefoxx> anyone know a thing about nethack-gnome and <http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47623/>
[23:31] <Slart> drgeb: I didn't get the link.. or I missed it.. can you paste it again?
[23:31] <emily> Slart: thank you! :-)
[23:31] <scguy318> squarebracket: or ps -A | grep ...
[23:32] <drgeb> Slart her it is http://dpaste.com/274S50/
[23:32] <buddhaboy> i did a fresh install, and before the first prompt right at "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ok]"  cursor freezes there, any suggestions?
[23:32] <emily> Slart: it only seems to do it when compiz-fusion is enabled. Everything works fine if I go disable it.
[23:32] <Slart> drgeb: that link didn't work..
[23:32] <drgeb> ?
[23:32] <_____jan> i tried gksu but it doesnt work:(
[23:32] <_____jan> cannot open display
[23:32] <_____jan> i have LAMP
[23:33] <Stwange> ive got some issues with 7.10 that 7.07 didn't have... for instance firefox regularily freezes, i sometimes cant open folders on mounted ntfs drives, and third party software just... doesn't work (for instance truecrypt and vmware). Is 8.04 a little less buggy?
[23:33] <timewriter> cizarr you solved the copy/paste issue on putty ?
[23:33] <Optimus55> thanks ppl
[23:33] <scguy318> _____jan: so you're not running X? are you trying to run a graphical app?
[23:33] <pgdex> _____jan: are you in terminal? Ubuntu server?
[23:33] <chesterm> ikonia...http://ubuntuforums.org/ this forum??
[23:33] <ikonia> chesterm: yes
[23:33] <cizarr> timewriter, nope.. did u?
[23:33] <chesterm> no graphics and artwork category :p
[23:33] <timewriter> are you using the linux putty , or the windows one , with wine ?
[23:33] <pgdex> Slart: Item not found @ link
[23:33] <MasterShrek> Stwange, 8.04 will be quite a bit less buggier since its going to be another LTS
[23:34] <WorkingOnWise> I am using Ubuntu Hardy, but have seen the same thing in Fiesty and Gutsy. I adjusted my pwr management settings to susspend after 20 minutes of inactivity. I started an install of some tings with Synaptics Package Manager and then  left for 40 minutes. The update should take about 30 minutes or so, including dl time. I came back and my computer has suspended. I resumed it and it was finishing the install I had started. It 
[23:34] <buddhaboy> no takers? i did a vmware fresh install, and the server won't boot completely.
[23:34] <ikonia> WorkingOnWise: hardy is not supported, its not even alpha
[23:34] <Slart> emily: read this.. and try that solution.. see if it makes any difference..  http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=1676
[23:34] <_____jan> yes i have ubuntu server
[23:34] <_____jan> just terminal
[23:34] <ikonia> WorkingOnWise: development discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <scguy318> WorkingOnWise: discussion of Hardy should be in #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <ikonia> WorkingOnWise: but don't expect support
[23:34] <soundray_> WorkingOnWise: use the inhibit applet
[23:34] <cizarr> linux putty gui timewriter
[23:34] <Stwange> MasterShrek, do you think there's much chance that the 8.04 alpha 1 is less buggy than the 7.10 upgrade?
[23:34] <piedoggie> buddhaboy:  having problems with vmware server and ubuntu server?
[23:34] <pgdex> _____jan: what was you trying to do, again?
[23:35] <_____jan> umm
[23:35] <tritium> Stwange: no
[23:35] <timewriter> i see
[23:35] <MasterShrek> Stwange, definately not, but when its actually released it will be
[23:35] <Slart> drgeb: I just get a "Not found" page with that address.. sure you pasted the right one?
[23:35] <_____jan> i want to add user on ftp
[23:35] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: well not vmware, but yea, fresh installof server 7.10
[23:35] <timewriter> well , copy/paste didnt worked for me either
[23:35] <buddhaboy> piedoggie installed inside of vmware
[23:35] <_____jan> proftpd
[23:35] <drgeb> Slart let me paste it again
[23:35] <piedoggie> buddhaboy: which version of vmware server
[23:35] <Dr_willis> can you run vmware server on ubuntu, thats installed inside of a vmwareserver. :)
[23:35] <WorkingOnWise> soundray_: but isnt the bigger issue the fact that it suspends when it is not idle? Isnt the inhibit applet a bandaid, not a solution?
[23:36] <piedoggie> I have lots of scar tissue with 1.04 and 2.0 Beta
[23:36] <Wespe> Hey, how do I get the system tray to pop back up right by the clock?
[23:36] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: I just downloaded it yesterday, so I assume the latest
[23:36] <|rly|> hey I cannot see most of vids
[23:36] <piedoggie> Then you probably have 1.04
[23:36] <drgeb> Slate http://dpaste.com/27454/
[23:36] <|rly|> neither google vids
[23:36] <n15t0> rlx me too
[23:36] <n15t0> rly
[23:36] <_____jan> sudo gedit /etc/shells when i write this line nothing happened
[23:36] <Slart> emily: perhaps the people in #compiz-fusion have an answer.. I definately think it's compiz-related..
[23:36] <_____jan> s
[23:36] <n15t0> what is your prob?
[23:37] <piedoggie> my experience has been that vmware server 1.04 works really well with 6.06 ubuntu and everything else fails miserably
[23:37] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: ahh ok, have no idea where to find that info. why is there an issue with installing in vmware?
[23:37] <Stwange> fair enough, well in that case, any suggestions how I can solve the issue of firefox freezing? I tried a re-install, and epiphany works fine, using 7.10 upgrade on 64 bit amd
[23:37] <timewriter> |rly| maybe you need codecs ?
[23:37] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: ahhhh ok
[23:37] <timewriter> for google vids you need flash player
[23:37] <|rly|> timewriter: where to get codecs?
[23:37] <soundray_> WorkingOnWise: update-manager should set the inhibit applet automatically. It's got to be running, though. That's at least how I understand it.
[23:37] <n15t0> i cant look videos from stage6 they are divx movies
[23:37] <piedoggie> it appears to be some sort of mismatch between either the kernel or device drivers and the virtual machine hypervisor
[23:37] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: so if I use 6.06, does that still have the dm-crypt boot install?
[23:37] <Dr_willis> i watch stage6 videos all the time. You need the right codecs/firefox plugins.
[23:37] <_____jan> i dont know if ii need it
[23:38]  * Wespe shrugs
[23:38] <_____jan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588 i was doing throw this tutorial
[23:38] <Zionad_> This is a vmware question, I am useing vmware to load up operatingsystems and every system i use, it cannot connect to my ethernet card, It says its not valid or something, although its obviously working cause im on here right now hah
[23:38] <piedoggie> buddhaboy: I have no idea?  It just runs for me off the stock alternate install disk
[23:38] <drgeb> Slate any luck with new site ?
[23:38] <Slart> drgeb: ok.. got it.. looks very weird indeed... I've never seen anything like this.. ask one of the guru's here.. ikonia perhaps
[23:38] <n15t0> Dr_willis: like what codecs?
[23:38] <aent> hey... anyone familiar with backuppc and figuring out why it seems to have stopped working?
[23:38] <Arrick> hay al, if I install the gnome-desktop-environment from a server install, what command do I run to get the environment started?
[23:38] <Wespe> could someone answer my question? i suspect i just need to alt+F2, and then do a command, but i dont know what command
[23:38] <buddhaboy> piedoggie: ahhh ok, so I guess i should try the install, see if the LVM encryption option is in it
[23:38] <Dr_willis> using the 'totem-plugin-viewer' on stage 6 it says
[23:38] <Arrick> I tried startx and it tells me not found
[23:39] <n15t0> Dr_willis: i could watch it before but for some reason i cant now...
[23:39] <piedoggie> Zionad_: it is only a small number of ethernet cards that vmware recognizes
[23:39] <Dr_willis> xine-lib version ########
[23:39] <ikonia> Arrick: why are you using the server install ?
[23:39] <draken> for some reason ive lost my minimzine,maximise,exit buttons from all my windows
[23:39] <Zionad_> thanks piedoggie heh
[23:39] <emily> Slart: Thanks :-) sorry had to go afk there for a second...reading the article now
[23:39] <piedoggie> I think PC net-32, e1000 are two that I remember
[23:39] <_____jan> so pls help me...how can i add user to ftp on server ubuntu edition
[23:39] <Later2> Hello
[23:39] <drgeb> ikonia any idea why I am seeing this error in my .xsessions-error http://dpaste.com/27454/
[23:39] <Arrick> ikonia, because I wanted to build my ssh vm and copy it, then build a security vuln tester
[23:39] <n15t0> Dr_willis: waht you mean xine-lib version?
[23:40] <piedoggie> one hint I found out yesterday makes network performance much better with virtual machines is eliminate IPv6 stacks if you're not using them
[23:40] <ikonia> Arrick: so why do you need a server install for that
[23:40] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  i imagine it depends on which of the dozen+ ftp servers you are using.. read the docs for the ftp server perhaps? or just 'sudo adduser BGates' perhaps?
[23:40] <Zionad_> drakenL sounds like you have window decoration off in compiz, if you are using it...
[23:40] <drgeb> Slart which . files can I remove to restart the whole manager configuration for a user ?
[23:40] <Arrick> ikonia, I installed server because its lightweight, and doesnt have any of the cruft in it
[23:40] <n15t0> Dr_willis: waht you mean xine-lib version?
[23:40] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  thats the info the player says when i do 'about'
[23:40] <hkw> hi
[23:40] <emily> Slart: That seems like it might fix it. gonna restart x...thanks!
[23:40] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  so  it seems to be using the xine firefox plugin
[23:40] <ikonia> Arrick: so why are you installing all the heavy stuff like X and gnome
[23:40] <Arrick> if you cant answer the question tell me so, then I will wait on someone to else to help me
[23:40] <Slart> drgeb: hmm.. I would create a new user to start with.. see if that solves it..
[23:40] <Wespe> Hello???
[23:40] <Slart> emily: you're welcome
[23:40] <n15t0> okay i'll look
[23:41] <desertc> !hi | Wespe
[23:41] <ubotu> Wespe: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:41] <_____jan> ok i tried to add user like... sudo adduser jan -p krneki -d /var/www
[23:41] <Later2> The Ubuntu server edition I keep on downloading. Everytime I used the burning program they suggest the base installation has corrupted files... It's getting really annoying...
[23:41] <Wespe> Hey, how do I get the system tray to pop back up right by the clock?
[23:41] <_____jan> but it doesnt work
[23:41] <ikonia> Arrick: I'm trying to understand what your doing to see if there is an alternative/ better solution for you as you appear to be doing things backwards
[23:41] <Wespe> could someone answer my question? i suspect i just need to alt+F2, and then do a command, but i dont know what command
[23:41] <drgeb> it does unless I start messing with compiz window manager
[23:41] <scguy318> Wespe: what's the question?
[23:41] <scguy318> Wespe: ohhh the sys tray
[23:41] <eyemean> is there anything i can use to convert from flac to mp3 pls?
[23:41] <MasterShrek> Wespe, right click the panel and click add to panel
[23:41] <scguy318> Wespe: what MasterShrek said
[23:41] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  try just adding a normal user? i have no idea what that -p and -d options do.
[23:41] <n15t0> Dr_willis:2.20.0
[23:41] <timewriter> compiz works perfect for me
[23:41] <Wespe> no, not that
[23:41] <Arrick> ikonia, Im doin the solution the way I need to so that I dont have to reinstall on 4-5 vms for different funtions, can you just answer the question please?
[23:41] <Slart> !patience | Wespe
[23:41] <n15t0> is the version from totem video player
[23:42] <ubotu> Wespe: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:42] <soundray_> Wespe: right click the panel and select Add to Panel. Find the applet called Notification Area and add it.
[23:42] <_____jan> -p pass -d direcotry
[23:42] <drgeb> Slart once I started messing with compiz it was a whirld wind effect that I could not get out off
[23:42] <ikonia> Arrick: you don't need a server install to distribute vm images
[23:42] <Zionad_> drgeb: make sure window decoration is still on..
[23:42] <ikonia> Arrick: vmware run's just as good on a desktop but has all the things like X11/gnome/etc intergrated
[23:42] <hkw> does S3 savage graphic adapter in my old notebook works with compiz?  thanks for your help.
[23:42] <ikonia> Arrick: that may make your general working conditions a bit more straight forward
[23:42] <drgeb> Zionad How do I do this ??
[23:42] <Arrick> ikonia, forget it, I will wait on someone else to help, I know what I want,....
[23:42] <draken> its on Zionad_
[23:42] <drgeb> Zionad cause at one point I did see this error
[23:43] <Zionad_> mmhmm
[23:43] <n15t0> Dr_willis:2.20.0 is the version from totem video player
[23:43] <ikonia> Arrick: thats fine, you just appear to be making things harder than they need to be for no-reason, I'm just trying to figure out if there is a reason your doing it this way, which there doesn't appear to be
[23:43] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  looks like it..  They are playing with the totem plugin.
[23:43] <piedoggie> my question today is about live CDs.  I need to test speech recognition (NaturallySpeaking under wine) on my laptop.  Unfortunately, I cannot afford to disturb my laptop because it is where I work because that's where speech recognition currently runs.  Is there any way to run a live CD and store changes (i.e. installation of new programs, data files) in a file under NTFS or failing that, a...
[23:43] <n15t0> yeah but i cant watch animes like bleach or sth.
[23:43] <piedoggie> ...4 GB flash stick?
[23:43] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  of course totem has to have the right codecs
[23:43] <|rly|> where can I get the codecs?
[23:43] <Dr_willis> !codecs
[23:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:44] <Arrick> ikonia, I came here with a very specific question, not to be questioned. this is stupid.
[23:44] <Dr_willis> Install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start.
[23:44] <Wespe> Thank you so much!!!
[23:44] <soundray_> Arrick: try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm' and log in.
[23:44] <Slart> drgeb: weird.. I've never had any problems with compiz when using gutsy.. it was almost like a commercial.. "just works".. but after a while in here I understand that's not the same experience as everyone else
[23:44] <chew> good evening, i'm looking for a console-audio-player that supports scrobbling/last.fm.. is there any?
[23:44] <Arrick> thanks soundray_
[23:44] <soundray_> Arrick: oops try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start' and log in.
[23:44] <ikonia> Arrick: thats fine, I was only trying to offer you experienced advice. I don't understand why your doing this with an over complicated methods, when the desktop version would make things much more straight forward
[23:44] <_____jan> no idea for me?
[23:44] <Later2> I have a question about CD burning of the OS and available software for it.
[23:45] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  giving the user a home dir of /whatever/www seems very very .. odd....
[23:45] <_____jan> umm what means odd?
[23:45] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  since i think a user cant even log in if they dont own theyr own homedir.
[23:45] <Zionad_> Later2 whats your question
[23:45] <drgeb> Slart I think its because I did an upgrade from Feisty and I am not really wanting to start from fresh install to get all working again
[23:45] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  the user has the wrong permissions for that dir for one thing.
[23:45] <Arrick> soundray_, says x not found
[23:46] <ikonia> Arrick: have you got X installed ?
[23:46] <_____jan> hmm
[23:46] <Dr_willis> ls -l /var/www/  - is owned by root.. so a user cant access it.
[23:46] <buggeredfstab> Is there a support channel for MySQL?
[23:46] <_____jan> so how can i change them
[23:46] <ikonia> buggeredfstab: sure, #mysql
[23:46] <buggeredfstab> thanks
[23:46] <hkw> does S3 savage graphic adapter in my old notebook works with compiz?  thanks for your help.
[23:46] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  no idea.. but i am thinking your 'way' is totally wrong.
[23:46] <Later2> I need a software I can download to burn the OS CD (Ubuntu server edition) The one they suggested I am using and the CD is always corrupted(Maybe one with a lower Burning setting then x4?)
[23:46] <mustafa_> Hello, i can not hear sound from my headset on ubuntu i checked devices ubuntu sees the device but i can not hear any voice
[23:46] <ikonia> hkw: it won't
[23:46] <Arrick> ikonia, only if it installs with the gnome-desktop-environment package
[23:46] <soundray_> Arrick: then you haven't installed everything that's needed
[23:46] <ikonia> hwkvery pooor
[23:46] <_____jan> so can i create root ftp account
[23:46] <ikonia> Arrick: that is a dependenciy so I suspect you've not installed gnome properly
[23:46] <Dr_willis> _____jan,  i would guess you need to do somtning with the  proper groups to allow users to alter the www files.
[23:47] <piedoggie> is there a better channel to ask questions about live CD and its features?
[23:47] <soundray_> Arrick: install the package ubuntu-desktop
[23:47] <hkw> ikonia , thank you
[23:47] <_____jan> ok
[23:47] <Arrick> which if it doesnt have the stuff it needs, then uhmm, it shouldnt be called a package
[23:47] <Zemp_> Later2: use aciveISO
[23:47] <ikonia> Arrick: it does
[23:47] <CarlFK> I am looking for instructions on installing django on ubuntu-server.  mainly how to work with the apache config files.  I found http://blog.timc3.com/2006/07/26/django-with-apache2/ but am hoping for better
[23:47] <n15t0> Dr_willis:now when i go to stage6 there is a big red cross in the middle of the video plugin
[23:47] <Later2> Alright, is this problem a normal issue?
[23:47] <ikonia> Arrick: again, take a look at the desktop cd, you'll find this ready to go out of the box
[23:47] <heatmzzr> vlc and movieplayer wont play my dvd?
[23:47] <Zionad_> Later2, it could be a multitude of problems, including the brand of your cds AND the speed, I would ALWAYS reccomend a lower speed setting while burning.
[23:47] <Slart> piedoggie: I don't think so.. ask away
[23:47] <_____jan> tnx
[23:47] <_____jan> bye
[23:47] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  guess you need to install some extra things/plugins then
[23:47] <Zionad_> Later2: activeISO is a good program
[23:48] <n15t0> Dr_willis:like waht,do you know any?
[23:48] <Later2> Yeah, on the other cd burning they suggested the lowest burn speed is x4
[23:48] <Zionad_> Exactly
[23:48] <WorkingOnWise> soundray_: are u saying there is a way to allow an ap to activate the inhibit applet on start and deactivate it on close? And that update manager can do it, but not synaptic?
[23:48] <Later2> CD would work great until Base installation where it lists corrupt files
[23:48] <Arrick> ikonia, I would like to work with my current vm because its a royal pain to get ubuntu to display a proper graphic installer on MS virtual machines, and I HATE vmware
[23:48] <daniel_> Hello, Im having a problem with amsn on Ubuntu. All text deplayed by the program is tiny. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:48] <piedoggie> is it possible to "install" applications on top of a live CD (i.e. without burning a new one) if you have some sort of read/write media available like a flash stick
[23:48] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  well a fast apt-get search for totem shows   totem-mozilla - Totem Mozilla plugin
[23:48] <daniel_> .di
[23:48] <daniel_> spla
[23:48] <Arrick> but I digress, thanks anyways
[23:48] <daniel_> yed*
[23:48] <Zionad_> hmm, Yeah get activeiso and use the LOWEST speed you can
[23:49] <mustafa_> Hello, i can not hear sound from my headset on ubuntu i checked devices ubuntu sees the device but i can not hear any voice
[23:49] <Later2> Alright, thank you so much I'm on my 6th corrupt cd it gets annoying
[23:49] <Later2> Hehe, thank you take care =).
[23:49] <Zionad_> Yeah, i understand later2
[23:49] <Zionad_> You to  bye!
[23:49] <Zionad_> =[
[23:49] <Zionad_> =]*
[23:49] <desertc> mustafa_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[23:49] <Stwange> I'm running Ubuntu and Windows on dual boot, and when I use it at uni, the internet connection has to be reset if i havent logged on for say 10 hours. In Windows, I can do ipconfig /release | ipconfig /renew which works, and I can then reboot into ubuntu and use the internet. However, if I try to reset the connection in ubuntu, either physically be unplugging the cable, or by the terminal (eth0 /down and eth0 up or sudo dhclient eth0), when it comes back
[23:49] <Stwange>  on, it comes onto a uni portal telling me i need to register the network card. Any idea why resetting under linux is giving me issues? Rebooting every time is a pain in the arse
[23:49] <soundray_> WorkingOnWise: that's what I thought I had observed. But when I just tried to reproduce that behaviour, it didn't work that way. It does work as a "band aid", though, like you suggest.
[23:49] <Slart> piedoggie: you could get the install packages for the software you want and put it on, say a USB drive.. that would work
[23:50] <Slart> piedoggie: you'll have to install them manually though.. but it would work
[23:50] <piedoggie> what I'm trying to do is test someone releases without installing on my laptop
[23:50] <piedoggie> speech recognition errors
[23:50] <ikonia> Stwange: getting a different ip address ?
[23:50] <|rly|> why can't I be head on skype and on windows yes?
[23:50] <WorkingOnWise> soundray_: well, it is better than nothing, and I guess I can live with one more click  :)
[23:50] <|rly|> *heard
[23:50] <piedoggie> what I'm trying to do is test some wine releases without installing on my laptop
[23:50] <n15t0> Dr_willis:but how can i install them?
[23:50] <Zionad_> RLY; you need to do several things
[23:50] <Templar> hi there ive download a nvidia driver for linux from their website and im not sure how to install it its a .run file anyone any ideas?
[23:50] <Stwange> ikonia, yeah, it's a uni network and they just allocate as required
[23:50] <ikonia> |rly|: what ?
[23:51] <timewriter> anyone uses ubuntu with raid ?
[23:51] <Slart> piedoggie: so you want to run a live cd and install some weird version of wine on it.. right?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  with the package manager..  same as you install anything else.
[23:51] <ikonia> timewriter: certainly
[23:51] <Dr_willis> !info  totem-mozilla
[23:51] <ubotu> totem-mozilla: Totem Mozilla plugin. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 209 kB, installed size 272 kB
[23:51] <timewriter> along with windows ?
[23:51] <ikonia> Stwange: it's probably the new ip address that makes you re-auth
[23:51] <ikonia> timewriter: no
[23:51] <piedoggie> actually, it's not a weird version, only the most current version from the git sources.  We're trying to make speech recognition (NaturallySpeaking) work in wine
[23:51] <Morgan555> Hi, I am new to nix in general and just added the Ubuntu Studio theme to Gutsy and am curious to what else I am missing out on, I know that there are multiple flavors of linux and I was just curious to check some others out, could some one name some of the other popular distros?
[23:51] <timewriter> thats my issue
[23:51] <ikonia> timewriter: sharing raid is not really possible
[23:51] <|rly|> hey, I'd like to use skype
[23:51] <timewriter> i thought that too ..
[23:51] <ikonia> timewriter: unless it is a hardware raid card
[23:51] <n15t0> Dr_willis:okay..i have 2.20.0
[23:51] <|rly|> can such a simple thing be possible?
[23:52] <Dr_willis> Morgan555,  with linux - it pays to stick with one and learn the linux fundamentals. not jump disrtos every other day.
[23:52] <ikonia> !skype | |rly|
[23:52] <ubotu> |rly|: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[23:52] <Zionad_> rly: first, right click on the speaker at the top right corner of your screen go to "Open volume control" then to go Edit -> prefrences,and check off microphone boost and capture,
[23:52] <timewriter> Intel matrix storage raid controller
[23:52] <CarlFK> piedoggie: it is worth trying.  good chance it will work.
[23:52] <n15t0> Dr_willis:can i use something else for stage6 like vlc or something?
[23:52] <Stwange> ikonia, the new IP works fine if I reboot from Windows into Ubuntu. You any idea how I can do it without Windows? I hate the few little reasons that make me keep it installed
[23:52] <Morgan555> Dr_willis, agreed thats why I want to explore in my early stages before I get to set in my ways
[23:52] <Dr_willis> Morgan555,  however the Live cd's of "DSL" and "Puppylinux" are worth grabbing.
[23:52] <mustafa_> desertc: ty i switched to usb:)
[23:52] <Zionad_> rly: then you need to select switches, and turn on the Microphone boost, and you should be heard on skype in linux!
[23:52] <Zionad_> =]
[23:52] <ikonia> Stwange: apologies, I'm not really following what your saying.
[23:52] <piedoggie> the other option I was going to try is pick up a cheap USB hard drive and install on that.  I wasn't sure where I was going to put the boot record but I'll figure something out
[23:52] <tupson> hi, i seem to have lost the functionality of my Touchpad, I had tapping disabled, now i've seem to have lost that option
[23:52] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  im betting you dont have the package installed.. did you TOTEM is one package and totem-mozilla - is a different packagte
[23:53] <heatmzzr> can anyone walk me through how to play a dvd? vlc and movieplayer dont seem to want to.
[23:53] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  sudo apt-get install totem-mozilla
[23:53] <timewriter> heatmzzr vlc should play it
[23:53] <ikonia> !dvd | heatmzzr
[23:53] <ubotu> heatmzzr: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:53] <Aldoliel> Right back, can anyone tell me what lshw means when it lists my network interface as "disabled"?
[23:53] <soundray_> Stwange: won't your university people tell you what you need to do?
[23:53] <marco__> ciao
[23:53] <tupson> i have even reinstalled my touchpad drivers and still cannot disable tapping
[23:53] <ikonia> Aldoliel: the nic is disabled
[23:53] <Slart> piedoggie: just checking here.. do you want to try with different version of wine? or do you want to try installing your software many times on the same version of wine?
[23:53]  * differentreality Ti omixli einai afti pou exei !?!?!?!?!?
[23:53] <n15t0> Dr_willis:its already the newest version the shell says
[23:53] <Dr_willis> !info gsynaptic
[23:53] <ubotu> Package gsynaptic does not exist in gutsy
[23:54] <draken> i removed the task bar panel
[23:54] <draken> how do i get it bback
[23:54] <piedoggie> I would be trying different versions of wine and need to go back to ground zero on a regular basis to make sure we can build a proper instructions etc. etc.
[23:54] <Slart> I don't think there is a gsynaptic.. there is a synaptic.. but that's the software used to install packages
[23:54] <Dr_willis> n15t0,  restart the browser perhaps.. I got no other ideas.  It may be you need some codec files FOR totem. like the w32codecs
[23:54] <Zionad_> rly: did you get it working?
[23:54] <Stwange> sorry ikonia, allow me to rephrase. I need to renew the IP address every, say, 10 hours of inactivity. If I do it with windows and then reboot into Ubuntu, it's all hunky-dory, but if I try to do it with ubuntu, it *usually* takes me to the auth page afterwards, and so I end up rebooting to do it. I've tried: unplugging the cable, 'sudo ifconfig eth0 /down & /up', and 'sudo dhclient eth0'. The latter works sometimes, but only occasionally
[23:54] <Dr_willis> Slart,  thers a simileray named tool for touchpad configuration. :)
[23:55] <Dr_willis> Slart,  i can never spell it right.
[23:55] <CarlFK> piedoggie: you might want to look at preseeded installs - here is how I do it : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[23:55] <Aldoliel> Does that mean disabled or the driver is just missing?
[23:55] <draken> i removed the task bar panel
[23:55] <draken> how do i get it bback
[23:55] <Aldoliel> And how might i enable it?
[23:55] <Dr_willis> !info gsynaptics
[23:55] <ubotu> gsynaptics: configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.12-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 320 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[23:55] <timewriter> there is another problem
[23:55] <ikonia> Stwange: what is the auth method used ?
[23:55] <Slart> piedoggie: then a live cd would be the way to go.. just download the wine deb-package and put it on a usb stick .. just double click the deb to install it.. after a reboot it's all gone.. so you can start again
[23:55] <Dr_willis> I think  gsynaptics  lets you disable tapping on the fly.
[23:55] <timewriter> ubuntu doesnt seen my dvd-rom
[23:56] <tupson> i will try that
[23:56] <timewriter> its a sata dvd-rom and its not recognised by ubuntu in raid mode
[23:56] <dug_> Stwange: you might need to register your mac address(es) with them
[23:56] <ikonia> timewriter: how are you putting a dvd in raid mode ?
[23:56] <j0hn__> hey
[23:56] <Slart> Dr_willis: ahh.. yes.. thought you lost synaptic and wanted to reinstall it or something =)
[23:56] <piedoggie> actually, I would probably need to build a baseline with compilers since the fresh raw sources aren't packaged so nicely.  :-)
[23:56] <timewriter> its sata 0 on the raid controller
[23:56] <timewriter> windows dont see it also
[23:56] <ikonia> timewriter: raid controllers onboard will; be fake raid
[23:56] <n15t0> ikonia:do you know why i cant watch online movies?
[23:56] <timewriter> uhm
[23:56] <ikonia> timewriter: put it as a normal sata controller in the bios
[23:56] <j0hn__> please help me. i'm trying to mount an .img file (similar to a .iso file).
[23:56] <Stwange> ikonia, I register my MAC address with my uni account. I'm only supposed to do it once, and I've only ever seen the page once under Windows. If the connection needs resetting, I get "Server not found" or whatever, I only get the auth page (register your MAC address) if I then reset the connection under Ubuntu (in Windows, it works fine, even if I then reboot into Linux). It's the same MAC address, same card
[23:57] <timewriter> yes , i know , it works on ahci
[23:57] <j0hn__> !mount
[23:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[23:57] <ikonia> Stwange: thats very odd
[23:57] <timewriter> but if i want to use raid , then i need an ide dvd-rom to install
[23:57] <j0hn__> sigh.
[23:57] <timewriter> windows or linux
[23:57] <Slart> j0hn__: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/isofile /path/to/mountpoint
[23:57] <timewriter> same problem
[23:57] <ikonia> timewriter: yes you will do due to fae raid being a poor technology
[23:57] <timewriter> hm
[23:57] <timewriter> then ill ned a pci raid card ?
[23:57] <Morgan555_> Anyone know where I could find a good tutorial/cheat sheet for the terminal of ubuntu specifically?
[23:57] <ikonia> Stwange: I'd contact your uni admin and ask what he can see being offered
[23:57] <ikonia> timewriter: a true hardware raid card, yes
[23:57] <soundray_> Stwange: I think if you set the right options in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, it will automatically get a new address at the required interval.
[23:58] <timewriter> never had one
[23:58] <j0hn__> Slart, what's mountpoint mean? the destination it will mount to? does that have to be a dir that exists, or will it be created there when i do that?
[23:58] <Zionad_> Morgan555: i have one if you want me to send it to you!
[23:58] <ikonia> Morgan555_: the terminal is the same in every linux distro
[23:58] <desertc> Morgan555_: Do a search for "bash tutorial"
[23:58] <ikonia> Morgan555_: http://www.tldp.org has many basic guides
[23:58] <Morgan555_> Zionad, that would be great
[23:58] <Slart> j0hn__: the mountpoint is the folder where the cd will ... appear..
[23:58] <n15t0> ikonia:do you know why i cant watch online movies?
[23:58] <Morgan555_> ikonia, I have found some small differences like su vs sudo
[23:58] <j0hn__> Slart, thank you. i'll give that a try :)
[23:58] <Stwange> soundray_, I'm not 100% sure what the interval is, it's just trial and error, and it's only if the internet has been disconnected, for example leaving the computer off overnight.
[23:58] <Slart> j0hn__: you're welcome
[23:58] <ikonia> soundray_: it sounds like there is some sort of radia style auth thats causing the problem
[23:58] <timewriter> found some on a webiste , they are like 50 E / piece
[23:58] <timewriter> ?
[23:59] <ikonia> n15t0: not a clue, I can watch fine
[23:59] <timewriter> omg no
[23:59] <n15t0> timewirter:do you know why i cant watch online videos like stage6?
[23:59] <soundray_> ikonia: I thought maybe the problem is that Linux tries to reattach with the cached IP address (Stwange)
[23:59] <n15t0> ikonia: well i have the newest version of totem mozilla
[23:59] <timewriter> 300 E or more
[23:59] <n15t0> ikonia: but there is a big red cross in the middle of the plugin window