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niblMy pxe client boots, but cannot find the file system...00:24
niblI get errors like:00:25
nibl"Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument"00:25
niblThis is a fresh 7.10 install00:25
niblAre there any configs I need to change?00:27
topjbirdhello00:34
niblanybody out there who can help?00:35
topjbirdI was wondering the same thing00:36
topjbirdhi nibl00:36
niblI'm new to unbuntu and for the past day I cannot get any help on irc or the mailing list :-(00:36
topjbirdsorry to hear that00:37
topjbirdThis is actually my first time too00:37
niblthere are no forums you can search , afaik00:37
topjbirdI am new to this as well00:37
topjbirdwhat is your problem00:38
niblmy client boots but cannot find the root file system00:38
niblget mount errors00:38
topjbirdthat's over my head00:39
topjbirdsorry'00:39
topjbirdlemme get tghis straight00:39
topjbirdhow many machines you have00:39
nibli'm just trying one at a time00:40
topjbirdso you have a server and 1 client?00:40
niblI tried two differents machines, same errors00:40
niblyes00:40
topjbirdok00:40
topjbirdwhat kind of error are you getting00:40
nible.g. "Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument"00:41
niblso i guess it cannot find the root fs00:41
niblgoogling hasn't delivered many results so far, nothing I found helpful00:42
topjbirdhttp://www.mail-archive.com/edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com/msg02564.html00:42
topjbirdhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2007-August/002314.html00:43
topjbirdcheck these 2 out00:43
topjbirdsee if either helps you00:43
niblthanks, i read the first post already. it's somebody with more than one lab, smthg complex00:44
niblthe 2nd post has no answer, i saw that one too00:45
topjbirdone sec00:49
topjbirdnibl00:55
topjbirdI know a guy online00:55
topjbirdwho would prolly help you00:56
topjbirdreally nice guy00:56
topjbirdbut you'd have to get him in the morning00:56
topjbirdif you're interested00:56
topjbirdu still there?00:57
niblyes, i was just searching the archives00:58
nibldownloaded the entire archives, am searching in text editor00:59
topjbirdok00:59
topjbirdthe only way I know where you can find him right now00:59
topjbirdI mean lately00:59
topjbirdis this link00:59
topjbirdhttp://redomen.homedns.org:8080/KaliWeb.html00:59
topjbirdregister a login name01:00
topjbirdit'as free01:00
topjbirdit's a chat server he made for an old time gaming network called kali01:00
topjbirdI'm on there now01:00
topjbirdlooking for him but he ain't there01:00
topjbirdanyways01:01
topjbirdwhen you go theere01:01
topjbirdlook for a guy named RedOmen01:01
topjbirdhe's very knowlegable with Linux01:01
topjbirdhe uses Debian01:01
topjbirdbut I'm sure he could help you01:01
niblok, thanks. will do.01:02
topjbirdbest time to get him is early in the morning01:02
nibli think this problem is specific to edubuntu and ltsp01:02
topjbirdlike 7am eastern01:02
niblwhat timezone?01:02
niblok01:02
topjbirdu.s.01:02
topjbirdeastern standard01:02
topjbirdjust log on to that web based chat server and look for him01:03
topjbirdtell him topjbird said he might be able to help you01:04
niblthanks for the tip01:04
nibl i'll go back to searching list archives for now01:04
topjbirdwho knows I might even meet ya there01:04
topjbirdI need some help myself01:04
topjbird=)01:04
nibli hope on monday more folks will be online01:05
topjbirdI'm building this edubuntu machine01:05
niblmaybe a lot are teachers, well, obviously01:05
topjbirdfor an underpriveleged little 5 yeasr girl01:05
niblwhy not use a standalone live CD?01:06
topjbirddesktop is up and running01:06
topjbirdno I've got the system up and running01:06
topjbirdjust trying to get a few things01:06
niblso what's the prob?01:06
topjbirdjust some fine touches01:07
topjbirdwell01:07
topjbirdin the edubuntu page01:07
topjbirdit shows this graphical desktop01:07
topjbirdthat's like cartoonish01:07
topjbirdspecifically made for a small child to navigate through the system01:08
topjbirdcan't seem to get it01:08
topjbirdlemme see if I can show you what I'm talkin about01:08
topjbirdif you have a sec01:08
niblhave a look, i#ll be back in 5 mins01:09
topjbirdok cool01:10
topjbirdhttp://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots01:16
topjbirdthere in that first paragraph01:16
topjbirdEdubuntu also provides three different theme setups, 'young', for younger users, 'plain' for a clean desktop setup, and 'default', which is a general purpose theme setup.01:17
topjbirdand you see that middle picture with the 3 kids01:17
topjbirdI wanna try and load that theme01:17
topjbirdcan't find out how01:17
niblok, so it's a desktop theme?01:18
topjbirdyea01:20
topjbirdI don't see it anywheres01:21
niblyou mean it's not preinstalled, or you tried and the package doesn't show?01:22
topjbirdwell I don't see it as preinstalled01:22
topjbirdand I can't even seem to find the package01:22
topjbirdcan't find the package to install01:23
nibltrue, i don't have it either01:24
topjbirdtried finding it but no luck01:25
topjbirdmaybe it's an older theme with the previuous edubuntu?01:25
topjbirdthey just didn't bother to take it off that website01:26
niblyes, i searched on Gnome themes, no luck01:28
nibli guess it may merit emailing the edubuntu artwork developer01:28
topjbirdwhats his email01:30
topjbird=)01:30
topjbirdoops his/her01:31
topjbird=)01:31
nibllook on the edubuntu support page01:33
niblthey are listed below the irc and lists01:33
topjbirdok01:35
topjbirdbtw nibl01:35
topjbirdwhere are you01:35
topjbirdif ya don't mind me askin'01:35
niblgermany01:36
topjbirdexcellent01:36
topjbird=)01:37
topjbirdI'm in Pennsylvania, USA01:37
topjbirdwell it was nice meeting you nibl01:38
topjbirdI'm gonna go get some chow01:38
topjbirdhope to see ya around soon01:39
nibllikewise, i'll return to the edubuntu archives now01:39
niblbye01:39
topjbirdand when I get there, maybe you can help me with the client server thing'01:39
topjbird=)01:39
topjbirdtake care bud01:39
Nurionnanyone an idea, why the edubuntu server increases its memory-usage by 1.5gb in 2 days (without any client startet)?07:09
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bibekshrestha7.10 local dev not working, any debugging tips?10:04
johnnythere is a registered bug on that10:05
johnnythere are some hints in there10:05
bibekshresthaoh any hints where i can see the bug? im new at this10:05
johnnybugs.launchpad.net10:05
bibekshresthabugzilla or sth?10:05
bibekshresthathanks lemme have a look10:06
johnnyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/16042010:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 160420 in ltsp "Local devices don't work because an X11 authentication problem" [Undecided,New]10:06
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bibekshresthajohnny, thanks, got the usb working,10:52
bibekshresthastrange though, it doesnot show safely remove, is that normal?10:52
johnnyi noticed that too10:52
johnnythat's on my todo list10:52
johnnyit should prolly be filed as a seperate bug10:52
bibekshresthaoh, alright then, atleast i have the device working10:53
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me4uhello12:51
me4uanyboidy around?12:52
das-tonly partially ;-)13:02
me4uhi das-t13:08
me4usorry went to ubuntu channel13:09
me4uI am trying to find out how to load this theme for this little girl13:10
me4uhttp://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots13:10
me4uwanna put that "young" theme13:10
me4uin that link13:10
me4uhi ikonia13:24
me4u'noone here13:24
me4uwould anyone knoiw how to load the "young" theme for edubuntu from this link13:30
me4uhttp://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots13:31
das-tsorry, i don't  and don#t have the time to look right now13:38
tuffhello. can someone tell me why is this line "env['DISPLAY'] = 'localhost:10.0'" in /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter ?14:27
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trboydenHi All, new edubuntu user here. Trying to setup netboot client for LTSP. Able to get client to load vmlinuz and initrd.img, get Ready. message but then client just sits at blicking cursor. Not sure what/how to troubleshoot from here?17:21
trboydenUsing Edubuntu 7.1017:22
bddebianHeya19:46
stgraberhi bddebian19:48
bddebianHi stgraber19:49
scrapbunnyi am trying to switch my computer lab from xp to edubuntu 7.10 thin clients. I got a dell poweredge 1750 donated as a server  an have set up 20 gx 110's as clients. i am running into a lot of issues with the server cpu's maxing to 100% with most of the programs I want to use.  any advise on how to make edubuntu work for me? the gx110's only have 128 memory so running standalone edubuntu is not an option20:03
lnsAre the AMD64 & i386 server kernels built with the exact same hardware support in Gutsy?20:20
Burgundavialns: I don't know of any arch specific drivers that apply to x86/amd6420:35
Burgundaviawhat specific piece of hardware are you worried about?20:36
lnsBurgundavia, it's (they) are HP Proliant ML370 G5 servers20:36
lnsI had issues booting the desktop version of Dapper a while back - it wouldn't even boot the liveCD20:37
lnsbut the AMD64 version booted fine20:37
BurgundaviaI would try the hardy alpha live cds20:44
Burgundaviaand if they don't work, make certain you report bugs and keep on top of them20:44
lnsBurgundavia, I'd love to be a beta tester but these sites are for elementary school labs, and the students need reliable service20:50
Burgundavialns: you can use a livecd or dual boot, test on the weekends20:53
lnsBurgundavia, that doesn't exactly give me insight as to whether hardware drivers are defined the same in i386/AMD64 archs for Gutsy ;)21:09
Kamping_Kaiserthey are almost definately not, if your including the non-free modules in your thinking21:11
lnsKamping_Kaiser, possibly...21:11
lnscan you tell me if there's a way to boot the livecd via server kernel? I know that was a big thing for getting it up and going when i initially installed my other lab server.21:12
lnsthat was the only kernel that would recognize my 1GB Ethernet chip21:12
Kamping_Kaiserimo thats a bug.21:12
lnsalso, does the i386 kernel give support for PAE? My servers have 8GB ram21:13
Kamping_Kaisernot sure. i havent dealt with any new ubuntu release21:13
Goosemoosetrying to install edubuntu from preseed on network, client reboots to a black screen after install though. any ideas?21:59
lnsGoosemoose, at what point is it a black screen?22:00
Goosemooseafter the install completes22:01
Goosemooseit reboots22:01
Goosemoosesays loading grub22:01
Goosemoosethen black22:01
Goosemoosemanual install goes fine22:02
lnsGoosemoose, sounds like a bootsplash/framebuffer issue perhaps? I'm not sure22:04
lnsdoes it eventually get to a login screen, or is there hdd activity during the blank screen?22:04
Goosemooselns, doesn't go anywhere22:42
Goosemoosejust sites there22:42
Goosemoosedont have a hdd led on this22:42
kgoetzGoosemoose: edit out 'splash' from the grub menu and then boot the client22:43
Goosemoosei cant access a terminal to do that23:11
Goosemoosei get the black screen immediately23:12
Goosemooseis there something i can hit when it says loading grub?23:12
kgoetzescape23:13
lns;)23:13
kgoetz:)23:13
Goosemoosefine :)23:13
kgoetzthen it gives you the grub menu. then you press 'e' to edit, and 'enter' to "23:14
kgoetzsave" the change for the coming boot23:14
Goosemooseok there is no splash i can see23:15
Goosemoosethere:23:15
Goosemooseroot (hd0,0)23:15
Goosemoosekernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.22-14........23:15
lnsGoosemoose, append "nosplash" to the end of the kernel parms after hitting E23:15
Goosemooseinitrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22........23:15
Goosemooseoh append it23:15
Goosemooseok23:15
lnsif "splash" isn't there23:16
Goosemoosewhats the quiet command for (you can tell all my linux experience has been with remove web servers(23:16
kgoetzquiet?23:17
Goosemooserebooting23:17
Goosemooseyeah that was the last line23:17
Goosemoosebefore i added no spalsh23:17
kgoetzit means theres less output23:17
Goosemooseok no splash didnt change anything23:17
kgoetzso the splash screens dont havce useful text printed on them ;)23:17
kgoetz"nosplash" or "no splash"? :)23:17
Goosemoosenosplash23:17
Goosemoosestill have a black screen23:18
kgoetztry booting "single" mode23:18
Goosemooseok23:18
lnsi wonder if the bootloader is b0rked23:18
lnsif you don't see the splash screen at all23:18
lnsjust grub --> blank23:18
lnsnosplash might be ineffective23:19
Goosemooseive redone this image multiple times23:19
Goosemooseloading recovery mode23:19
Goosemooseok got a login prompt23:19
lnshmm ok23:19
lnsin single user mode?23:19
Goosemoosesecond grub option was called recovery mode23:19
lnsah23:19
Goosemooseim assuming thats single user like on a mac23:19
lnsiirc23:19
lnsGoosemoose, "redone this image multiple times" meaning what? format/re-install from cd a bunch of times?23:20
Goosemooseso where do i look to figure out why i get the black screen? the manual install works fine23:20
Goosemooseso it has to have something to do with installing via preseed file23:20
kgoetzGoosemoose: can you run `grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst`23:21
lnsAhh..i read "preseed" as "pressed" initially23:21
kgoetzpaste us the twothree lines you should get from it23:21
lnsthought you ordered an edubuntu cd pressed ;)23:21
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kgoetzhehe23:23
Goosemoosesorry, back23:40
kgoetzwb23:40
Goosemooseok lets see23:41
Goosemoosenon commented out comments23:41
Goosemoosekernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=038a2561-e3fc then runs off screen23:41
Goosemooseoh nvm it wrap23:41
Goosemooseso long root=UUID then 'ro quiet splash'23:42
Goosemoosethats the main one23:42
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Goosemoosenext is the recovery mod23:42
Goosemoosemode23:42
Goosemooseguess ill type out whole thing for main, thats what you need right kgoetz?23:42
Goosemoosekernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=038a2561-e3fc-4be6-938-bb2df55e1a3b ro quiet splash23:43
kgoetzdont need the root=, need everything else23:43
kgoetzso both are 'quiet splash'?23:44
Goosemoosethe recover mode23:45
Goosemooseend ro single23:45
Goosemoosethats what i booted into now23:45
kgoetzGoosemoose: right. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "quiet splash" from the first one23:45
Goosemooseok23:45
Goosemooserebooting23:47
kgoetzgl23:47
Goosemooseworked now23:48
Goosemoosesooo, what the heck23:48
kgoetznow try addin 'quiet' back in and rebooting it .23:48
Goosemoosewhy the quiet splash preveting boot?23:48
Goosemooseok23:48
kgoetzi suspect the inital 'its the splash' is correct :\23:48
kgoetzdont know.23:48
Goosemoosestarted23:50
Goosemooseok, very strange23:50
Goosemoosei tried both edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop from the preseed file too23:50
Goosemooselooks like 'splash' is preventing the boot23:50
kgoetznot sure, might be a bug, might be pebkac, but i dont know how to find otu :)23:51
kgoetzbbs23:53
Goosemoosehmm23:53
lnscould be the vid card can't handle framebuffer requests/whatever video mode it's requesting?23:58
lnsdid you boot this on the same machine you installed it on (i.e. no hdd xfer)23:59

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