[00:24] <nibl> My pxe client boots, but cannot find the file system...
[00:25] <nibl> I get errors like:
[00:25] <nibl> "Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument"
[00:25] <nibl> This is a fresh 7.10 install
[00:27] <nibl> Are there any configs I need to change?
[00:34] <topjbird> hello
[00:35] <nibl> anybody out there who can help?
[00:36] <topjbird> I was wondering the same thing
[00:36] <topjbird> hi nibl
[00:36] <nibl> I'm new to unbuntu and for the past day I cannot get any help on irc or the mailing list :-(
[00:37] <topjbird> sorry to hear that
[00:37] <topjbird> This is actually my first time too
[00:37] <nibl> there are no forums you can search , afaik
[00:37] <topjbird> I am new to this as well
[00:38] <topjbird> what is your problem
[00:38] <nibl> my client boots but cannot find the root file system
[00:38] <nibl> get mount errors
[00:39] <topjbird> that's over my head
[00:39] <topjbird> sorry'
[00:39] <topjbird> lemme get tghis straight
[00:39] <topjbird> how many machines you have
[00:40] <nibl> i'm just trying one at a time
[00:40] <topjbird> so you have a server and 1 client?
[00:40] <nibl> I tried two differents machines, same errors
[00:40] <nibl> yes
[00:40] <topjbird> ok
[00:40] <topjbird> what kind of error are you getting
[00:41] <nibl> e.g. "Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: Invalid argument"
[00:41] <nibl> so i guess it cannot find the root fs
[00:42] <nibl> googling hasn't delivered many results so far, nothing I found helpful
[00:42] <topjbird> http://www.mail-archive.com/edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com/msg02564.html
[00:43] <topjbird> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2007-August/002314.html
[00:43] <topjbird> check these 2 out
[00:43] <topjbird> see if either helps you
[00:44] <nibl> thanks, i read the first post already. it's somebody with more than one lab, smthg complex
[00:45] <nibl> the 2nd post has no answer, i saw that one too
[00:49] <topjbird> one sec
[00:55] <topjbird> nibl
[00:55] <topjbird> I know a guy online
[00:56] <topjbird> who would prolly help you
[00:56] <topjbird> really nice guy
[00:56] <topjbird> but you'd have to get him in the morning
[00:56] <topjbird> if you're interested
[00:57] <topjbird> u still there?
[00:58] <nibl> yes, i was just searching the archives
[00:59] <nibl> downloaded the entire archives, am searching in text editor
[00:59] <topjbird> ok
[00:59] <topjbird> the only way I know where you can find him right now
[00:59] <topjbird> I mean lately
[00:59] <topjbird> is this link
[00:59] <topjbird> http://redomen.homedns.org:8080/KaliWeb.html
[01:00] <topjbird> register a login name
[01:00] <topjbird> it'as free
[01:00] <topjbird> it's a chat server he made for an old time gaming network called kali
[01:00] <topjbird> I'm on there now
[01:00] <topjbird> looking for him but he ain't there
[01:01] <topjbird> anyways
[01:01] <topjbird> when you go theere
[01:01] <topjbird> look for a guy named RedOmen
[01:01] <topjbird> he's very knowlegable with Linux
[01:01] <topjbird> he uses Debian
[01:01] <topjbird> but I'm sure he could help you
[01:02] <nibl> ok, thanks. will do.
[01:02] <topjbird> best time to get him is early in the morning
[01:02] <nibl> i think this problem is specific to edubuntu and ltsp
[01:02] <topjbird> like 7am eastern
[01:02] <nibl> what timezone?
[01:02] <nibl> ok
[01:02] <topjbird> u.s.
[01:02] <topjbird> eastern standard
[01:03] <topjbird> just log on to that web based chat server and look for him
[01:04] <topjbird> tell him topjbird said he might be able to help you
[01:04] <nibl> thanks for the tip
[01:04] <nibl>  i'll go back to searching list archives for now
[01:04] <topjbird> who knows I might even meet ya there
[01:04] <topjbird> I need some help myself
[01:04] <topjbird> =)
[01:05] <nibl> i hope on monday more folks will be online
[01:05] <topjbird> I'm building this edubuntu machine
[01:05] <nibl> maybe a lot are teachers, well, obviously
[01:05] <topjbird> for an underpriveleged little 5 yeasr girl
[01:06] <nibl> why not use a standalone live CD?
[01:06] <topjbird> desktop is up and running
[01:06] <topjbird> no I've got the system up and running
[01:06] <topjbird> just trying to get a few things
[01:06] <nibl> so what's the prob?
[01:07] <topjbird> just some fine touches
[01:07] <topjbird> well
[01:07] <topjbird> in the edubuntu page
[01:07] <topjbird> it shows this graphical desktop
[01:07] <topjbird> that's like cartoonish
[01:08] <topjbird> specifically made for a small child to navigate through the system
[01:08] <topjbird> can't seem to get it
[01:08] <topjbird> lemme see if I can show you what I'm talkin about
[01:08] <topjbird> if you have a sec
[01:09] <nibl> have a look, i#ll be back in 5 mins
[01:10] <topjbird> ok cool
[01:16] <topjbird> http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[01:16] <topjbird> there in that first paragraph
[01:17] <topjbird> Edubuntu also provides three different theme setups, 'young', for younger users, 'plain' for a clean desktop setup, and 'default', which is a general purpose theme setup.
[01:17] <topjbird> and you see that middle picture with the 3 kids
[01:17] <topjbird> I wanna try and load that theme
[01:17] <topjbird> can't find out how
[01:18] <nibl> ok, so it's a desktop theme?
[01:20] <topjbird> yea
[01:21] <topjbird> I don't see it anywheres
[01:22] <nibl> you mean it's not preinstalled, or you tried and the package doesn't show?
[01:22] <topjbird> well I don't see it as preinstalled
[01:22] <topjbird> and I can't even seem to find the package
[01:23] <topjbird> can't find the package to install
[01:24] <nibl> true, i don't have it either
[01:25] <topjbird> tried finding it but no luck
[01:25] <topjbird> maybe it's an older theme with the previuous edubuntu?
[01:26] <topjbird> they just didn't bother to take it off that website
[01:28] <nibl> yes, i searched on Gnome themes, no luck
[01:28] <nibl> i guess it may merit emailing the edubuntu artwork developer
[01:30] <topjbird> whats his email
[01:30] <topjbird> =)
[01:31] <topjbird> oops his/her
[01:31] <topjbird> =)
[01:33] <nibl> look on the edubuntu support page
[01:33] <nibl> they are listed below the irc and lists
[01:35] <topjbird> ok
[01:35] <topjbird> btw nibl
[01:35] <topjbird> where are you
[01:35] <topjbird> if ya don't mind me askin'
[01:36] <nibl> germany
[01:36] <topjbird> excellent
[01:37] <topjbird> =)
[01:37] <topjbird> I'm in Pennsylvania, USA
[01:38] <topjbird> well it was nice meeting you nibl
[01:38] <topjbird> I'm gonna go get some chow
[01:39] <topjbird> hope to see ya around soon
[01:39] <nibl> likewise, i'll return to the edubuntu archives now
[01:39] <nibl> bye
[01:39] <topjbird> and when I get there, maybe you can help me with the client server thing'
[01:39] <topjbird> =)
[01:39] <topjbird> take care bud
[07:09] <Nurionn> anyone an idea, why the edubuntu server increases its memory-usage by 1.5gb in 2 days (without any client startet)?
[10:04] <bibekshrestha> 7.10 local dev not working, any debugging tips?
[10:05] <johnny> there is a registered bug on that
[10:05] <johnny> there are some hints in there
[10:05] <bibekshrestha> oh any hints where i can see the bug? im new at this
[10:05] <johnny> bugs.launchpad.net
[10:05] <bibekshrestha> bugzilla or sth?
[10:06] <bibekshrestha> thanks lemme have a look
[10:06] <johnny> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/160420
[10:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 160420 in ltsp "Local devices don't work because an X11 authentication problem" [Undecided,New]
[10:52] <bibekshrestha> johnny, thanks, got the usb working,
[10:52] <bibekshrestha> strange though, it doesnot show safely remove, is that normal?
[10:52] <johnny> i noticed that too
[10:52] <johnny> that's on my todo list
[10:52] <johnny> it should prolly be filed as a seperate bug
[10:53] <bibekshrestha> oh, alright then, atleast i have the device working
[12:51] <me4u> hello
[12:52] <me4u> anyboidy around?
[13:02] <das-t> only partially ;-)
[13:08] <me4u> hi das-t
[13:09] <me4u> sorry went to ubuntu channel
[13:10] <me4u> I am trying to find out how to load this theme for this little girl
[13:10] <me4u> http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[13:10] <me4u> wanna put that "young" theme
[13:10] <me4u> in that link
[13:24] <me4u> hi ikonia
[13:24] <me4u> 'noone here
[13:30] <me4u> would anyone knoiw how to load the "young" theme for edubuntu from this link
[13:31] <me4u> http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[13:38] <das-t> sorry, i don't  and don#t have the time to look right now
[14:27] <tuff> hello. can someone tell me why is this line "env['DISPLAY'] = 'localhost:10.0'" in /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter ?
[17:21] <trboyden> Hi All, new edubuntu user here. Trying to setup netboot client for LTSP. Able to get client to load vmlinuz and initrd.img, get Ready. message but then client just sits at blicking cursor. Not sure what/how to troubleshoot from here?
[17:22] <trboyden> Using Edubuntu 7.10
[19:46] <bddebian> Heya
[19:48] <stgraber> hi bddebian
[19:49] <bddebian> Hi stgraber
[20:03] <scrapbunny> i am trying to switch my computer lab from xp to edubuntu 7.10 thin clients. I got a dell poweredge 1750 donated as a server  an have set up 20 gx 110's as clients. i am running into a lot of issues with the server cpu's maxing to 100% with most of the programs I want to use.  any advise on how to make edubuntu work for me? the gx110's only have 128 memory so running standalone edubuntu is not an option
[20:20] <lns> Are the AMD64 & i386 server kernels built with the exact same hardware support in Gutsy?
[20:35] <Burgundavia> lns: I don't know of any arch specific drivers that apply to x86/amd64
[20:36] <Burgundavia> what specific piece of hardware are you worried about?
[20:36] <lns> Burgundavia, it's (they) are HP Proliant ML370 G5 servers
[20:37] <lns> I had issues booting the desktop version of Dapper a while back - it wouldn't even boot the liveCD
[20:37] <lns> but the AMD64 version booted fine
[20:44] <Burgundavia> I would try the hardy alpha live cds
[20:44] <Burgundavia> and if they don't work, make certain you report bugs and keep on top of them
[20:50] <lns> Burgundavia, I'd love to be a beta tester but these sites are for elementary school labs, and the students need reliable service
[20:53] <Burgundavia> lns: you can use a livecd or dual boot, test on the weekends
[21:09] <lns> Burgundavia, that doesn't exactly give me insight as to whether hardware drivers are defined the same in i386/AMD64 archs for Gutsy ;)
[21:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> they are almost definately not, if your including the non-free modules in your thinking
[21:11] <lns> Kamping_Kaiser, possibly...
[21:12] <lns> can you tell me if there's a way to boot the livecd via server kernel? I know that was a big thing for getting it up and going when i initially installed my other lab server.
[21:12] <lns> that was the only kernel that would recognize my 1GB Ethernet chip
[21:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> imo thats a bug.
[21:13] <lns> also, does the i386 kernel give support for PAE? My servers have 8GB ram
[21:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure. i havent dealt with any new ubuntu release
[21:59] <Goosemoose> trying to install edubuntu from preseed on network, client reboots to a black screen after install though. any ideas?
[22:00] <lns> Goosemoose, at what point is it a black screen?
[22:01] <Goosemoose> after the install completes
[22:01] <Goosemoose> it reboots
[22:01] <Goosemoose> says loading grub
[22:01] <Goosemoose> then black
[22:02] <Goosemoose> manual install goes fine
[22:04] <lns> Goosemoose, sounds like a bootsplash/framebuffer issue perhaps? I'm not sure
[22:04] <lns> does it eventually get to a login screen, or is there hdd activity during the blank screen?
[22:42] <Goosemoose> lns, doesn't go anywhere
[22:42] <Goosemoose> just sites there
[22:42] <Goosemoose> dont have a hdd led on this
[22:43] <kgoetz> Goosemoose: edit out 'splash' from the grub menu and then boot the client
[23:11] <Goosemoose> i cant access a terminal to do that
[23:12] <Goosemoose> i get the black screen immediately
[23:12] <Goosemoose> is there something i can hit when it says loading grub?
[23:13] <kgoetz> escape
[23:13] <lns> ;)
[23:13] <kgoetz> :)
[23:13] <Goosemoose> fine :)
[23:14] <kgoetz> then it gives you the grub menu. then you press 'e' to edit, and 'enter' to "
[23:14] <kgoetz> save" the change for the coming boot
[23:15] <Goosemoose> ok there is no splash i can see
[23:15] <Goosemoose> there:
[23:15] <Goosemoose> root (hd0,0)
[23:15] <Goosemoose> kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.6.22-14........
[23:15] <lns> Goosemoose, append "nosplash" to the end of the kernel parms after hitting E
[23:15] <Goosemoose> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22........
[23:15] <Goosemoose> oh append it
[23:15] <Goosemoose> ok
[23:16] <lns> if "splash" isn't there
[23:16] <Goosemoose> whats the quiet command for (you can tell all my linux experience has been with remove web servers(
[23:17] <kgoetz> quiet?
[23:17] <Goosemoose> rebooting
[23:17] <Goosemoose> yeah that was the last line
[23:17] <Goosemoose> before i added no spalsh
[23:17] <kgoetz> it means theres less output
[23:17] <Goosemoose> ok no splash didnt change anything
[23:17] <kgoetz> so the splash screens dont havce useful text printed on them ;)
[23:17] <kgoetz> "nosplash" or "no splash"? :)
[23:17] <Goosemoose> nosplash
[23:18] <Goosemoose> still have a black screen
[23:18] <kgoetz> try booting "single" mode
[23:18] <Goosemoose> ok
[23:18] <lns> i wonder if the bootloader is b0rked
[23:18] <lns> if you don't see the splash screen at all
[23:18] <lns> just grub --> blank
[23:19] <lns> nosplash might be ineffective
[23:19] <Goosemoose> ive redone this image multiple times
[23:19] <Goosemoose> loading recovery mode
[23:19] <Goosemoose> ok got a login prompt
[23:19] <lns> hmm ok
[23:19] <lns> in single user mode?
[23:19] <Goosemoose> second grub option was called recovery mode
[23:19] <lns> ah
[23:19] <Goosemoose> im assuming thats single user like on a mac
[23:19] <lns> iirc
[23:20] <lns> Goosemoose, "redone this image multiple times" meaning what? format/re-install from cd a bunch of times?
[23:20] <Goosemoose> so where do i look to figure out why i get the black screen? the manual install works fine
[23:20] <Goosemoose> so it has to have something to do with installing via preseed file
[23:21] <kgoetz> Goosemoose: can you run `grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst`
[23:21] <lns> Ahh..i read "preseed" as "pressed" initially
[23:21] <kgoetz> paste us the twothree lines you should get from it
[23:21] <lns> thought you ordered an edubuntu cd pressed ;)
[23:22]  * Flare183 is away: Gone away for now.
[23:23]  * kgoetz is annoyed: Doesnt like Spamming Aways
[23:23]  * lns adds to the meaningless /me comments for the sole sake of doing so
[23:23] <kgoetz> hehe
[23:40] <Goosemoose> sorry, back
[23:40] <kgoetz> wb
[23:41] <Goosemoose> ok lets see
[23:41] <Goosemoose> non commented out comments
[23:41] <Goosemoose> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=038a2561-e3fc then runs off screen
[23:41] <Goosemoose> oh nvm it wrap
[23:42] <Goosemoose> so long root=UUID then 'ro quiet splash'
[23:42] <Goosemoose> thats the main one
[23:42] <Goosemoose> next is the recovery mod
[23:42] <Goosemoose> mode
[23:42] <Goosemoose> guess ill type out whole thing for main, thats what you need right kgoetz?
[23:43] <Goosemoose> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=038a2561-e3fc-4be6-938-bb2df55e1a3b ro quiet splash
[23:43] <kgoetz> dont need the root=, need everything else
[23:44] <kgoetz> so both are 'quiet splash'?
[23:45] <Goosemoose> the recover mode
[23:45] <Goosemoose> end ro single
[23:45] <Goosemoose> thats what i booted into now
[23:45] <kgoetz> Goosemoose: right. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "quiet splash" from the first one
[23:45] <Goosemoose> ok
[23:47] <Goosemoose> rebooting
[23:47] <kgoetz> gl
[23:48] <Goosemoose> worked now
[23:48] <Goosemoose> sooo, what the heck
[23:48] <kgoetz> now try addin 'quiet' back in and rebooting it .
[23:48] <Goosemoose> why the quiet splash preveting boot?
[23:48] <Goosemoose> ok
[23:48] <kgoetz> i suspect the inital 'its the splash' is correct :\
[23:48] <kgoetz> dont know.
[23:50] <Goosemoose> started
[23:50] <Goosemoose> ok, very strange
[23:50] <Goosemoose> i tried both edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop from the preseed file too
[23:50] <Goosemoose> looks like 'splash' is preventing the boot
[23:51] <kgoetz> not sure, might be a bug, might be pebkac, but i dont know how to find otu :)
[23:53] <kgoetz> bbs
[23:53] <Goosemoose> hmm
[23:58] <lns> could be the vid card can't handle framebuffer requests/whatever video mode it's requesting?
[23:59] <lns> did you boot this on the same machine you installed it on (i.e. no hdd xfer)