[00:00] <andreas_> I have installed flash player (alien -i flash-plugin.blablalbla.rpm), in adept packagemanager is states that it is installed, why cant i whatch flash movies?
[00:00] <altg> is this a new feature in Gutsy ???
[00:00] <oobe> no
[00:00] <oobe> its been like that for a while
[00:01] <oobe> if u wanna make a root password the "sudo su" then type "passwd"
[00:02] <oobe> andreas_, try using a deb package
[00:03] <andreas_> oobe: can't find a deb package for flashplayer
[00:03] <oobe> do u use firefox
[00:03] <darlos> hello
[00:03] <oobe> hello
[00:03] <andreas_> oobe: yeah
[00:04] <altg> in my desktop (upgraded) it always ask for root pass !!
[00:04] <darlos> need help to istall opera.deb
[00:04] <oobe> i have it working but it was ages ago i know i used debs cause i wont use rpms
[00:05] <altg> how can i do to know if i had make a root password ???
[00:05] <oobe> apt-get install  flashplugin-nonfree
[00:05] <oobe> should work
[00:05] <newuser> ok     H E L P hahaha   i have gone to the www.yahoo page and click on music and it directs me to install flash or gnash  I tried gnash and it installed but there still is a problem.....where the video is suppose to be is a messed up black smallcase i  and a yellow messed up lowercase d      what is up with this computer install   can someone help me
[00:05] <andreas_> Okay, thx
[00:05] <oobe> if its not found you need to enable more sources in your sources.list
[00:06] <altg> oobe >> how can i do to know if i had make a root password ??? (scuse for my english, im french, but it's 1:06 here)
[00:06] <darlos> what the mening of erro message"E: Couldn't find package 15.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[00:07] <jembouge> !fr | altg
[00:07] <ubotu> altg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:07] <darlos> altg...do u have a password to login?
[00:08] <darlos> when you start you systeme
[00:08] <newuser> I am using a brand new Toshiba satalite
[00:09] <altg> yes on the both
[00:09] <altg> on kubuntu-fr, no one respond
[00:10] <altg> cause it's 1:10 in the morning in france
[00:11] <jembouge> alors vas-y je peux traduire
[00:11] <altg> non mais si t'as la reponse meme c'es mieux !!
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> altg- you don't need a root password
[00:11] <darlos> altg i think your root pasword is your admin password
[00:11] <jembouge> bah j'ai pas trop pigé ta question, je vais sur fr pour qu'on en discute
[00:12] <altg> oki
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> darlos- no, there is no root password. The password you use for sudo is your normal user password
[00:12] <Ahmuck> is there a program in kubuntu/kde that creates a collage from a batch of images similar to what picasa does ?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> there is Picassa for Linux. :)
[00:13] <yknott> digikam?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> and ive not seen a similer tool. :(
[00:13] <Dr_willis> I wanted to make a random wallpaper change that generated collages on the fly.
[00:14] <eltoro> dr_willis : you can make a wallpaper slideshow
[00:14] <stdin> "feh" can do that, but that's command line only
[00:15] <darlos> Dragnslcr...yes and is the same to add package
[00:15] <Dr_willis> eltoro,  right but i wanted to select a dir. and have the program make random collages from pics in that dir. and then use those for the wallpaper
[00:15] <eltoro> oh
[00:15] <Dr_willis> Been cooler if i could sort of animate the collages. heh heh..
[00:15] <eltoro> sorry i can'T really help you then
[00:15] <Dr_willis> change wallpaper every 2 sec. :) moving the pics about.
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Talk about cpu ussage.
[00:18] <Manad> I'm trying to play an xvid movie in Kaffeine, and it's very choppy. I know it's not the video because it played fine under Windows. Are there "restricted" codecs I could get which would make it run better?
[00:19] <Dr_willis> try vlc perhaps.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> or some other players.
[00:19] <newuser> Let me run this past someone...........If I have a duel boot sys and windows is on the mbr and linux is on the 2nd partition the laptop is fine with either os..... Now that I have removed the Bill Gates revenge and have only the ubuntu os on the whole hd... I am having issues with the sound and web video,,,  My question is this ,, When the windoz was installed due the drivers for the hardware bootup in the dos mode as windoz boots?
[00:19] <newuser>   Therefor loading before getting to grub?  Therefore not having any issues when using linux...
[00:19] <Manad> I'll try VLC...it has its own codecs IIRC.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> newuser,  the grub/boot/partitions shouldent be affecting the linux os.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> newuser,  when grub boots linux, theres nothing read from windows.
[00:20] <Dr_willis> newuser,  NOW that being said.. i have seen odd hardware that gets confused if you boot to windows, then 'reboot' to linux.
[00:20] <newuser> Im not saying it is read from windows...   Is it read from dos
[00:20] <Dr_willis> newuser,  dos? what does dos have to do with anything? :) you using windows95?
[00:21] <newuser> Does the hardware activate before the drivers for the os activeate
[00:21] <newuser> hahahahah    no
[00:21] <Dr_willis> Grub is loaded befor any other OS.
[00:21] <newuser> ok
[00:21] <Dr_willis> The only issue ive ever seen is that windows can set hardware in such a way the Linux drivers cant 'reset' them proplery. and tha twas only with one device i had ages ago. (a sound card)
[00:22] <newuser> then y is it that when I had this sys preloaded with vista and by me loaded with ubuntu worked well but when I removed the vista and reformatted to have only ubuntu I have issues with the sound and web video
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Im guessing the issue is unrelated to vista at all.
[00:23] <newuser> It has to be related to something...  I am very confused by this issue
[00:24] <Manad> I've had three apps crash on me so far in 2 hours of normal use. Adept, Dolphin, and something else I forgot. Is this normal? And is it possible my previous XFCE install might be interfering?
[00:24] <Dr_willis> newuser,  could bee some updates havent been done on your system yet, or some updates have been done..   or a different kernel version.
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Manad,  i normally install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop all on the same box. no problems.
[00:25] <newuser> With duel boot and vista and ubuntu kde all was working well this was two days ago... New toshiba satalite a205-s4707 laptop
[00:25] <Dr_willis> newuser,  put it back the way it was and see if it  then works.. what i am saying that if you power up, select linux from grub. Then Nothing in windows gets read/loaded/used at all.
[00:26] <Dr_willis> In fact you could delete the windows partition, and still have the grub entry for windows. :) linux wont care.
[00:26] <newuser> reformatted and now just ubuntu and 145 updates with all the repositories checked and I go online fine but no video when I go to yahoo music it says you must install missing plugins
[00:26] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[00:26] <Minataku> What's up?
[00:26] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: nope, it wouldnt mind at all.
[00:27] <Dr_willis> newuser,  right - you need to install  the various plugins that are not installed by default
[00:27] <newuser> I load the flash and the gnash and then the video window is there but it is messed up
[00:27] <jembouge> hi there
[00:27] <unix_infidel> it would just spit out an error when you tried to select the win partition.
[00:27] <Dr_willis> newuser,  install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start
[00:27] <Dodger73> *sigh* anyone manage to get fglrx to run under gutsy
[00:27] <Dodger73> ?
[00:27] <newuser> ands I still have no sound
[00:27] <newuser> ok.... Ill try it
[00:27] <Dr_willis> Dodger73,  it works for my pathic laptop.
[00:28] <jembouge> anyone knows hows to set up the "password manager" so that it doesn't memorize the root password for a few minutes, but instead ask each time required?
[00:28] <Dodger73> i've got a x1900xtx PCIe and all i get is a blank screen (monitor goes out of sync)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> jembouge,  you dont mean the 'sudo' thing do ya? i wonder if the kde ask for password thing uses the same time-cacheing of the password as sudo.
[00:29] <Hydrogen> yes
[00:29] <Hydrogen> it does
[00:29] <Hydrogen> its just a wrapper around sudo
[00:29] <Dr_willis> so one could set the sudo settings  then to fix what jembouge  wants then.
[00:29] <Hydrogen> yes
[00:29] <jembouge> Dr_willis: that's what I mean yeah
[00:30] <jembouge> actually that's altg asking, if you could just tell him, (and I'll follow in the background if translation needed)
[00:30] <Hydrogen> sudo visudo
[00:31] <Hydrogen> add timestamp_timeout 0
[00:31] <jembouge> Hydrogen: ok I'm listening
[00:31] <Hydrogen> and save it
[00:31] <Dr_willis> I dont see that setting in the /etc/sudoers file...
[00:31] <Hydrogen> its not in the default one
[00:32] <andrewlin> Can someone tell me how to connect to the wine channel?
[00:32] <Dr_willis> insults     If set, sudo will insult users when they enter an incorrect password.  This flag is off by default.
[00:32] <andrewlin> nvm
[00:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:32] <Hydrogen> thats a fun one :)
[00:32] <Dr_willis> Ok - i gotta learn how to enable that!
[00:32] <stdin> andrewlin: click on #winwhq  (or type /join #winehq )
[00:32] <Dr_willis> timestamp_timeout
[00:32] <Dr_willis>                    Number of minutes that can elapse before sudo will ask for a passwd again.
[00:33] <Dr_willis> Thats the one. :)
[00:33] <andrewlin> stdin: thanks
[00:33] <newuser> first I need to install the kubuntu       was it    apt-get install kde?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <newuser> thx'
[00:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is 'ubuntu-desktop'   xfce is 'xubuntu-desktop' and... :)
[00:34] <Dr_willis> I installed geubuntu-desktop  the other day :P
[00:34] <Dr_willis> and the gos-desktop even.
[00:34] <jembouge> thanks guys for the timestamp_timeout thingy
[00:35] <newuser> oh no... I closed the box in the gnome taskbar about the proprietary software updates and now my sys cant go online   any help
[00:35] <jembouge> I think that can be found in the settings panel
[00:50] <shinda> hey guys was wondering if anyone around was familiar with setting up apache virtual sites, I keep getting 403 errors on my config
[00:52] <Bawbatos> is there a gui for building an ipsec tunnel
[00:55] <Dr_willis> !find ipsec
[00:55] <ubotu> Found: ipsec-tools, pipsecd
[00:56] <Dr_willis> !info pipsecd
[00:56] <ubotu> pipsecd: IPsec tunnel implementation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:19990511-28ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 164 kB
[00:56] <labkom> cftbhh uk
[00:57] <OuZo> hi, how or were do i change my DPI ? thanks
[00:58] <francisco> hola farolas
[00:59] <francisco> hi
[00:59] <francisco> hola
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !hi
[01:00] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:00] <jembouge> hola :p
[01:00] <jembouge> !es
[01:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:01] <Nilsinho> Oi
[01:01] <dustin> oie
[01:02] <Nilsinho> Tenho uma dúvida aqui, preciso instalar o gnome e retirar o KDE,,, o que faço?
[01:02] <stdin> !br
[01:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:02] <Nilsinho> Alguém sabe como ajudar?
[01:08] <TooEarly> is there any log or command to show when you installed your os
[01:12] <margarita> hola :D
[01:13] <Dragnslcr> TooEarly- uname -a might be what you're looking for
[01:13] <firecrotch> TooEarly: Not that I know of, but you could just look for the file creation date of the install log
[01:13] <labkom> upillll
[01:13] <firecrotch> TooEarly: or it appears that Dragnslcr is correct, uname -a will tell you
[01:13] <labkom> !upgrade
[01:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:14] <margarita> hola :D
[01:14] <labkom> hola for u...
[01:16] <labkom> asuuuuuu..........bajingaaaaaaaaannnnnn
[01:24] <andrewlin> Can anyone tell me what the channel for emerald or compiz is?
[01:24] <newuser> ok...another install...  is there a shortcut for terminal   I DO NOT have one on my sys menu
[01:25] <tekteen> andrewlin: here
[01:25] <tekteen> andrewlin: for kubuntu :=)
[01:25] <tekteen> :-)*
[01:25] <NickPresta> andrewlin, #compiz-fusion
[01:25] <newuser> i found it
[01:26] <andrewlin> yes, for kubuntu, thnx nick
[01:27] <newuser> dr willis are u still up
[01:27] <DaSkreech> newuser: open konqueror and press F4
[01:28] <BluesKaj> newuser, not listed in the kmenu under "System" ?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> newuser: install yakauake and press F12
[01:28] <newuser> yes I got it......
[01:28] <DaSkreech> newuser: press Alt+space and type konsole
[01:28] <newuser> what is the string to install the kubuntu restricted extras?
[01:28] <newuser> im in root
[01:29] <BluesKaj> !restricted formats | newuser
[01:29] <ubotu> newuser: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <dmcglone> did anyone else see that whois query?
[01:45] <sub[t]rnl> its client side
[01:45] <dmcglone> ok
[01:45] <Manad> hi
[01:46] <tekteen> hi
[01:46] <DaSkreech> !hi
[01:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:46] <Manad> when I switch user ("start a new session"), the screen goes black and the computer no longer responds until I do a hard reset. Any ideas why?
[01:46] <Xcell> Teeeyaw!
[01:47] <dmcglone> Hello X
[01:47] <Xcell> Hey, hey.
[01:47] <dmcglone> I tried to send you a message earlier
[01:47] <Xcell> I havent registered this nic yet?/ Will later today.
[01:48] <Xcell> my hukt un fonix fer keebords is fsiling.
[01:48] <DaSkreech> !register Xcell
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register xcell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <DaSkreech> !register | Xcell
[01:48] <ubotu> Xcell: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[01:48] <Xcell> t/y
[01:48] <dmcglone> it's easy
[01:48] <Xcell> brb
[01:50] <dmcglone> DM you from columbus?
[01:51] <Xcell> done
[01:51] <dmcglone> cool
[01:51] <Xcell> I'm official
[01:51] <dmcglone> well it tells me I can't send you a message
[01:51] <Xcell> I just sent bill gates a linux xmas card.
[01:51] <Xcell> ?
[01:52] <Xcell> let me re log in
[01:53] <jagcorvair> Hello all. How do I change my resolution to be 1280x768 @ 60Hz?
[01:53] <dmcglone> system settings -> monitor
[01:53] <jagcorvair> I have 1280x768, but not 60Hz
[01:54] <jagcorvair> Sorry, dmcglone
[01:54] <dmcglone> sorry for what?
[01:54] <jagcorvair> dmcglone: Not disclosing full issue
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- you'll be able to generate resolutions as well as set Monitor refresh rates
[01:56] <dmcglone> just go to system settings then click on monitor and display and adjust the slider change the dropdown to 60hz
[01:56] <jagcorvair> sub[t]rnl: I have a set range, but how do I get it to be specifically @ 60Hz? The issue isn't when logged in, but during the boot splash screen. The screen goes blank and it tells me that I need to be at 1280x768 @ 60Hz.
[01:57] <jagcorvair> The screen with Kubuntu and the bar under it doesn't show during boot and shutdown/reboot.
[01:57] <dmcglone> I have the same issue
[01:57] <dmcglone> I just bear with it.
[01:58] <sub[t]rnl> i had the issue, its fixable
[01:58] <jagcorvair> 51Hz and 55Hz are my only options.
[01:58] <jagcorvair> This wasn't happening earlier. Nothing has changed.
[01:58] <dmcglone> I tried adding the vga line to grub but never worked for me
[01:59] <jagcorvair> :(
[02:01] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, if you want to get framebuffering to work for your tty's comment the "blacklist vesafb" (but leave uncommented every others) line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer. add "fbcon" and "vesafb" in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. add the vga=xxx in your menu.lst. Finally "sudo update-initramfs -k all -u" to apply ...
[02:01] <Manad> what does tty mean?
[02:01] <jagcorvair> So no way of fixing the refresh rate with 1280x768?
[02:01] <dmcglone> terminal console Manad
[02:03] <jagcorvair> Manad: TTY stands for Tele TYpwriter
[02:04] <dmcglone> what happened X?
[02:04] <Xcell> Oh well it says im registered but my pass wony go.
[02:04] <Xcell> wont
[02:04] <dmcglone> oh
[02:04] <dmcglone> lets see if I can PM you
[02:04] <Xcell> hit it
[02:05] <dmcglone> nope. doesn't work, maybe it's me
[02:05] <Xcell> How can I reset everything
[02:06] <dmcglone> X are you using konversation?
[02:06] <Xcell> pidgin
[02:06] <dmcglone> oh. let me try logging out and back with a password
[02:06] <Xcell> k
[02:07] <Xcell> lol  his failed 2
[02:07] <Minataku> TTY, or Tele TYpewriter is a historic thing
[02:08] <Minataku> When terminals were electromechanical typewriters connected to the host system via telephone
[02:09] <dmcglone> X I added my password seems to work for me
[02:09] <Xcell> interesting..I would like to reset but like the nic.
[02:10] <dmcglone> well didn't work. I don't know how to use pidgon or whatever you called it
[02:10] <Xcell> hang on brb
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Minataku: I heard that many cycles ago there was device that would have actual things that folded around data inputs to keep them separate and they were called folders!
[02:10] <DaSkreech> how silly was that?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> When they could have had a tagged database :)
[02:11] <Minataku> lol
[02:12] <dmcglone> how do I verify my nick is registered?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Login
[02:13] <dmcglone> LOL I know that, but i'm not sure I set konversation up correctly so I don't know if it's actually using my password
[02:14] <sub[t]rnl> query someone
[02:14] <DaSkreech> I can query and not be logged in
[02:14] <DaSkreech> I can't PM though
[02:14] <dmcglone> yeah, thats the same here
[02:14] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: on the server tab Nickserv should tell you that you are logged in
[02:15] <dmcglone> ah Ok, I was correct, i'm not logged in
[02:16] <dmcglone> tells me the password is incorrect
[02:16] <kub^> when i try to access system settings | advanced | disk & filesystems i get the following error page http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3171/snapshot4hp2.jpg
[02:16] <DaSkreech> Yeah if it wasn't for Fedora I'd never remember mine
[02:16] <dmcglone> It's been a long time that i've been on IRC and I remember registering this nick but don't remember the password
[02:17] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: It's probably been deregistered
[02:17] <DaSkreech> !register | dmcglone
[02:17] <ubotu> dmcglone: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:17] <DaSkreech> If not then #freenode
[02:17] <dmcglone> i'm afraid to type the /msg nickserv command in here because I am afraid it will show my password
[02:18] <kub^> type it in the nockserv window then :)
[02:18] <kub^> nickserv *
[02:18] <Dr_willis> dont put a space at the fron tof the command line
[02:18] <dmcglone> I try that it tells me it doesn't understand the command. Let me try again
[02:19] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: go to the server tab that's only you and a computer no chance of anyone seeing it
[02:19] <XceII> yay
[02:19] <dmcglone> Ok got it, it tells me my nick is already registered
[02:19] <DaSkreech> or just type /msg nickserv help
[02:19] <DaSkreech> then you can have a nice long chat with it
[02:19] <popopo> hi again
[02:19] <dmcglone> let me try a different password
[02:20] <dmcglone> how did you do it X?
[02:20] <XceII> im me
[02:20] <popopo> how can I make my english kubuntu display in french? Usually there is a language selection at the logon menu, but  I don't see one in Kubuntu.
[02:20] <dmcglone> X I got your message but I can't reply
[02:20] <dmcglone> it's me thats got the problem
[02:20] <XceII> oi
[02:20] <dmcglone> let me try to remember my password
[02:20] <XceII> That dont make sense.
[02:21] <dmcglone> what don't make sense?
[02:21] <XceII> U got mine but I cant see U
[02:22] <dmcglone> because i'm not logged in
[02:22] <XceII> k
[02:22] <dmcglone> using wrong password, I need to log out and log back in with different password
[02:23] <XceII> k
[02:23] <dmcglone> if I can remember it.. LOL I got a few I remember from when I registered in the stone age
[02:23] <XceII> No worries.
[02:23] <dmcglone> I'll be back
[02:27] <devinus> how can i see what model harddrive i'm using?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> With prescription glasses! :)
[02:28] <DaSkreech> though I suspect lshw will help as well
[02:28] <dmcglone> Hmmm seems I don't know my password anymore
[02:28] <popopo> sometimes when I'm doing an apt-get install, it asks me for the CD. What if I don't have the CD, how can I make it download the package instead?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> #freenode
[02:29] <DaSkreech> popopo: remove the Cd entry from sources.list
[02:29] <XceII> replace your (l) with capitol i
[02:29] <dmcglone> DaSkreech was that for me?
[02:29] <DaSkreech> dmcglone: yes sir
[02:29] <DaSkreech> assuming you are male
[02:30] <popopo> ok, thanks
[02:30] <dmcglone> DaSkreech now what am I supposed to do, convince them I forgot my password?
[02:30] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:30] <DaSkreech> follow along they are more experinced with this than you are :)
[02:31] <dmcglone> of course they are :)
[02:33] <XceII> How fitting.
[02:34] <dmcglone> I'm working on it
[02:34] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:34] <XceII> k
[02:34] <DaSkreech> !caps
[02:34] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:36] <dmcglone> what I shouting?
[02:36] <dmcglone> oh lord, hope I don't get kicked
[02:37] <dmcglone> :)
[02:37] <dmcglone> I can't seem to remember my password
[02:37] <XceII> Do as I said earlier..re-do it ^
[02:38] <XceII> Its what I did
[02:38] <Minataku> Nicknames don't expire here
[02:38] <dmcglone> Ah I took a darn good guess
[02:38] <XceII> Minataku: Scroll up
[02:38] <dmcglone> got it
[02:39] <XceII> k
[02:54] <XceII> .
[02:56] <dmcglone> i'm back
[02:56] <makuseru> are there any other audio recording/editing programs that are free, besides audacity?
[02:56] <dmcglone> soundgarden
[02:57] <dmcglone> oh by the way, X do you have an AIM screen name?
[02:57] <XceII> no
[02:57] <XceII> yet
[02:57] <dmcglone> no other chat program you use other than IRC?
[02:58] <XceII> na  just info and some political science
[02:59] <XceII> let me try that brb
[03:00] <dmcglone> k
[03:04] <Nvrnight> I have a problem getting started with Ubuntu, after it completely loads my monitor turns off, anyone know how to fix this?
[03:05] <dmcglone> does the power button turn it back on?
[03:05] <Nvrnight> I turn it off and back on and the light is still orange
[03:05] <Minataku> It's being sent an unusable signal
[03:05] <Nvrnight> like when a system goes into standby
[03:05] <dmcglone> does the monitor come back on though?
[03:06] <Minataku> The monitor is shutting itself off to prevent damage
[03:06] <Nvrnight> hmm
[03:06] <Minataku> If it tried to display the signal it's getting, it would burn out
[03:06] <dmcglone> wrong Xorg settings
[03:06] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:06] <Nvrnight> what should I do?
[03:06] <Minataku> You likely need to explicitly tell the kernel what mode to use
[03:06] <Minataku> Does the video work up to where it would normally load X11?
[03:07] <Minataku> If you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 at that point, does the monitor turn back on?
[03:07] <Minataku> If it does, then X11 is at fault
[03:07] <Nvrnight> It works where it shows the loading bar and as soon as it gets to 100% it goes to the screen with a cursor, then shuts off like it's going into standbye
[03:07] <Minataku> If not, you need to specify to the kernel explicitly what video mode to use
[03:07] <Nvrnight> ctrl+alt+f1 didn't turn it on
[03:07] <Minataku> !vga
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <Minataku> Hm
[03:08] <Minataku> Then you need to tell the kernel what mode to use
[03:08] <Minataku> !cheat
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Minataku> !cheatcodes
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheatcodes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Minataku> >:|
[03:08] <Minataku> Stupid bot
[03:08] <Minataku> !bootoptions
[03:08] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:08] <Minataku> Try that one
[03:08] <Minataku> You want the information on a boot option called "vga"
[03:08] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:08] <dmcglone> be careful how you talk to the bot you might get banned for abusing it...lol
[03:08] <Minataku> It'll be in the form of "vga=" and a hexadecimal number
[03:08] <dmcglone> or reconfigure the xserver
[03:08] <Nvrnight> ok
[03:09] <Minataku> Don't listen to dmcglone
[03:09] <deuryte> XCELL
[03:09] <Nvrnight> thanks for the help, I'm completely new to linux so this is a whole new world for me heheh
[03:09] <Minataku> No offense but you're just plain incorrect, dmcglone
[03:09] <dmcglone> whatever
[03:09] <Minataku> The kernel is using a mode that his monitor can't handle
[03:09] <dmcglone> really????
[03:09] <dmcglone> duh!
[03:09] <Minataku> X11 has nothing to do with this since the kernel itself is at fault
[03:10] <dmcglone> not exactly, he has his x server settings wrong
[03:10] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Just ignore him.
[03:10] <dmcglone> but whatever.
[03:10] <Nvrnight> so should I use "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash vga=771"
[03:10] <dmcglone> I could care less, I know what i'm talking about
[03:11] <Minataku> Sure, if that's a video mode your monitor can handle
[03:11] <Nvrnight> lol I don't know what it can handle
[03:11] <Minataku> I'd remove quiet and splash
[03:11] <Minataku> Pick a low one then
[03:11] <andrewlin> Can anyone tell me why NONE of my sound is working?
[03:11] <Minataku> I'll give you mine, one sec
[03:11] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:11] <Minataku> vga=0x318
[03:11] <Minataku> Which should be 24bit color at 1024x768
[03:12] <Nvrnight> alright, I'll try it once it reboots
[03:12] <Minataku> Which your monitor should be able to handle
[03:12] <Minataku> Unless it's incredibly old
[03:12] <Minataku> Like I said, I'd also remove "quiet" and "splash"
[03:12] <Nvrnight> lol it might be pretty old, the computer isn't old but I think the monitor is
[03:12] <deuryte> EVENING.....    DOES ANYONE KNOW Y I CANT SEEM TO GET PAST THE "INITIALIZING MODEM" STAGE OF MY ZOOM SERIAL MODEM??  [sorry for caps],
[03:12] <deuryte> anyway, when i go to configure modem, it queeries and detects modem but then i go to look into the modem command set =  there is none, i even tried to manually set it up.
[03:13] <Minataku> This way we can see what's going on, and if you see a bunch of text scrolling by, then it IS your X Window System settings
[03:13] <Nvrnight> alright
[03:13] <deuryte> im using kumuntu freshly downloaded just yesterday
[03:13] <Darkrift411> i just ran updater and it updated my nvidia drivers. there was no flicker or restart, so does that mean the new drivers arent in use yet?
[03:13] <dmcglone> good luck Nvrnight.
[03:14] <Minataku> dmcglone: You MAY be right, but usually even if X11 feeds the monitor a bogus signal, switching to a VT where the kernel feeds a good one will return the monitor to a normal state
[03:15] <Minataku> Though in the case that X crashes or goofs up the keyboard, that won't be the case
[03:15] <dmcglone> you went for overkill, he could simply reconfigure his x server
[03:15] <Nvrnight> it's loading now, I'll let you know how it goes
[03:15] <Minataku> k
[03:16] <dmcglone> been there many times
[03:16] <Darkrift411> anyone?
[03:17] <Minataku> Darkrift411: Reboot the system
[03:17] <Nvrnight> monitor is staying on this time, but it doesn't display anything at all, the loading thing isn't even displaying
[03:17] <Minataku> Theoretically you could unload and reload, but rebooting would probably be an easier option if you don't know what you're doing
[03:17] <Minataku> Hm
[03:18] <Minataku> !video
[03:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:18] <Minataku> Erm
[03:18] <Minataku> Stupid bot
[03:18] <Minataku> That used to be a meaningful thing
[03:18] <Minataku> !nvidia
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <Nvrnight> lol
[03:18] <Minataku> That's for Darkrift411
[03:18]  * Darkrift411 is afraid to lol
[03:19] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Have you already installed Kubuntu, or are you trying to install?
[03:19] <Minataku> If you're trying to install, use the !alternate installer
[03:19] <Nvrnight> trying to install Ubuntu
[03:19] <deuryte> xcell
[03:19] <Minataku> In that case
[03:19] <Minataku> !alternate
[03:19] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:19] <andrewlin> Can someone help me with my sound? It's not working.
[03:19] <Minataku> andrewlin: Check the mixer settings.
[03:20] <dmcglone> well looks like reconfiguring the x server wasn't the answer
[03:20] <Minataku> Ensure that "Main" and "PCM" aren't muted
[03:20] <XceII> ya
[03:20] <Minataku> dmcglone: Told you it was the kernel
[03:20] <Minataku> lol
[03:20] <Minataku> I compile my own kernels and have fought with video issues
[03:20] <Nvrnight> I downloaded "Ubuntu 7.10", the desktop edition
[03:20] <dmcglone> it wasn't that either, he hasn't even installed.
[03:20] <XceII> kernel who.
[03:20] <dmcglone> lol
[03:21] <Minataku> Well, the issue is that the kernel on the normal install CD is trying to do something that his video system doesn't like
[03:21] <deuryte> i just spent alot of time. got much info. will be trying to figure this out, youd think the developers would have been just a little more3 easier
[03:21] <XceII> !register | deuryte
[03:21] <ubotu> deuryte: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[03:21] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Get the alternate installer
[03:21] <XceII> so we can private
[03:21] <dmcglone> I think he didn't have enough memory to run the graphical install
[03:22] <dmcglone> or at least had enough but it was really slow
[03:22] <Minataku> Speculation is useless
[03:22] <Minataku> Assist or be silent
[03:22] <Minataku> Nvrnight: Either way, use the alternate installer
[03:22] <Minataku> That should work for you.
[03:22] <dmcglone> wow your on a roll tonight
[03:23] <Minataku> dmcglone: Making pointless assumptions about one's computer isn't going to help anyone.
[03:23] <Minataku> I recommend you check the Code of Conduct.
[03:23] <Darkrift411> well, i made it
[03:23] <Minataku> !CoC > dmcglone
[03:23] <Darkrift411> seems to be running correctly
[03:23] <Minataku> Darkrift411: Great to hear!
[03:23] <deuryte> xcell...........  anyway, when i go to configure modem, it queeries and detects modem but then i go to look into the modem command set = there is none, i even tried to manually set it up.
[03:23] <Minataku> :D
[03:23] <Minataku> !modem
[03:23] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:24] <Minataku> Try that link, deuryte
[03:24] <deuryte> ty
[03:24] <Minataku> np
[03:24] <Nvrnight> it'll be downloaded in a half hour, I'm not going to bed till it works, which might hurt my performance and work tommorrow but I don't care lol
[03:24] <Minataku> Heh
[03:24] <Minataku> I'd say go to sleep while it downloads
[03:24] <XceII> Thanks Minataku.
[03:24] <Minataku> Tired and cranky doesn't make for a good state for installing anything
[03:24] <Minataku> XceII: You're welcome
[03:25] <Minataku> I guess
[03:25] <dmcglone> I didn't see anything about pointless assumptions in the CoC
[03:25] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:25] <Minataku> Though I'm not sure how I helped you
[03:25] <Minataku> lol
[03:25] <XceII> For the modem link
[03:25] <deuryte> im loading now, but keep in mind, its a external zoom serial modem,  using latest kumuntu, with kppp
[03:25] <Minataku> Oh
[03:25] <XceII> deu is my brother
[03:25] <Minataku> Well, you're welcome
[03:25] <Minataku> lol
[03:25] <Minataku> Ah!
[03:25] <Minataku> That would explain things
[03:25] <Minataku> lol
[03:25] <Nvrnight> tired and cranky is how I get stuff done, lol
[03:25] <Minataku> Heh
[03:25] <Nvrnight> that's college life
[03:26] <Minataku> I prefer panicked and out of time
[03:26] <XceII> Yesterday I put kubuntu on useing hight speed..so he went home to dialup .
[03:26] <Minataku> My best work comes at the last minute
[03:27] <deuryte> i might even have all the anwers i need already, ive got the kppp manual, plus the info u just sent on a thumb, ready to decifer........
[03:28]  * dthacker prepares to gnomeslap Klamav, which is not quitting when told to.
[03:28] <deuryte> way too much home work for a dumb dial up connection.........  c'mon!! developers !!!!!
[03:28] <Nvrnight> Minataku, you been using linux a long time? You seem pretty knowledgeable
[03:28] <Nvrnight> I remember using dial up, that was about 8 years ago though
[03:29] <Minataku> About 3 years
[03:29] <Minataku> Though everything computers and electronics is natural to me
[03:29] <XceII> It would be nice if some one helped him make it work
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> robo cat
[03:29] <Minataku> I used SuSE for about a year then switched to Gentoo where I've been since
[03:29] <Nvrnight> when I get back on dial up I feel like a turtle crossing the street, slowly getting to the other side with a chance of being cut off
[03:29]  * dthacker does not miss dial up
[03:29] <Minataku> lol
[03:30] <Minataku> Heya, sub[t]rnl
[03:30] <sub[t]rnl> heyas :D
[03:30]  * Minataku wags his three fox tails and flicks a cheetah ear playfully
[03:30] <Minataku> ^^
[03:30]  * sub[t]rnl snuggles
[03:30]  * Minataku purrs and cuddles back
[03:30] <Minataku> X)
[03:30] <dthacker> I used to run a datacenter where 30 branch offices dialed in to unix box.  yuck.
[03:31] <Minataku> But yeah, I've learned a lot about Linux/Unix/etc
[03:31] <XceII> deu..go to #ubuntu..they help people over there
[03:31] <Minataku> I've got other machines running NetBSD
[03:31] <deuryte> 4
[03:31] <dmcglone> LOL Xcell
[03:31] <Minataku> Various architectures like SPARC and PMAX
[03:31] <Minataku> SPARC is my favorite
[03:31] <Nvrnight> coo
[03:31] <Minataku> I've also got a SunOS 4.1.4 box that needs fixing
[03:31] <dmcglone> I wonder how long they will help him before they get attitude
[03:32] <dmcglone> Like some people I know
[03:32] <Minataku> And one that's PReP and running AIX 4.3.3
[03:32] <Minataku> I'm a collector
[03:32] <XceII> Me 2  seems like you cant get help anywhere anymore.
[03:32] <Minataku> I've also got a couple of DOS machines
[03:32] <Minataku> Since DOS is pretty versatile and the best choice for older boxes
[03:32] <dmcglone> or told to shut up because you threaten someones intelligence
[03:33] <Minataku> Especially ones that are PC/XT Compatible laptops
[03:33] <XceII> typical
[03:33] <Minataku> lol
[03:33] <dthacker> Minataku: have you worked with an Alpha?
[03:33]  * dthacker has inherited a 4 way server
[03:33] <Minataku> I still lack a working Alpha
[03:33] <Minataku> I have an AlphaPC mainboard
[03:34] <Minataku> I also had a really old Alpha, too
[03:34] <Minataku> Both are non-functional :(
[03:34] <dthacker> I have an IBM J30, too, but I haven't fired it up recently.
[03:34] <Minataku> The old Alpha had a blown SCSI chip
[03:34] <deuryte> xcell.  go here........irc://freenode/%23ubuntu..they
[03:34] <Minataku> The mainboard is just trashed somehow
[03:34] <Minataku> But we should take this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <Nvrnight> I got disconnected, heh
[03:35] <dthacker> nah, I should just go start learning my packaging.  good localtime all.
[03:35] <Minataku> Aw
[03:35] <Minataku> lol
[03:35] <Minataku> I wanted to talk more XD
[03:36] <dmcglone> dthacker too much info ;-)
[03:36] <Minataku> 0
[03:36] <Minataku> Oops
[03:36] <Minataku> lol
[03:37] <XceII> deuryte #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <TheFishy> its a bit busy in ubuntu... so ill ask in here cause its a kde question really...
[03:37] <TheFishy> anyways
[03:38] <TheFishy> whats a good browser for kde?
[03:38] <Minataku> Firefox
[03:38] <TheFishy> i hate firefox anything else?
[03:38] <TheFishy> i have tried several
[03:38] <TheFishy> konqueror...
[03:38] <dmcglone> try opera
[03:39] <TheFishy> tried it
[03:39] <TheFishy> annoying features
[03:40] <Minataku> If you hate features, try Dillo
[03:40] <dmcglone> I agree fishy, I didn't like it either
[03:41] <Minataku> If you hate yourself, try Internet Explorer
[03:41] <dmcglone> I stuck to konqueror
[03:41] <Minataku> lol
[03:41] <dmcglone> lol
[03:41] <dmcglone> lol
[03:41] <TheFishy> lol
[03:41] <TheFishy> nice
[03:41] <TheFishy> dillo is that a serious browser
[03:41] <Minataku> Yeah
[03:41] <Minataku> Extremely light
[03:41] <Minataku> No Javascript
[03:41] <Minataku> No CSS
[03:42] <Minataku> It's actually a very good browser
[03:42] <Minataku> Though it's really featureless
[03:42] <TheFishy> ugh
[03:42] <TheFishy> i dont like featureless type like flash
[03:42] <TheFishy> i just dont want gestures
[03:42] <TheFishy> and all that crap
[03:42] <TheFishy> i want java css and flash
[03:43] <TheFishy> if i didn't i would use lynx
[03:43] <Minataku> Firefox has no gestures stock
[03:43] <dmcglone> just use konq
[03:43] <Minataku> And it's customizable to the point where you can disable anything you don't want
[03:44] <marx2k> Has anyone seen the following message when running smbtree: "Server requested plaintext password but 'client use plaintext auth' is disabled"
[03:48] <TheFishy> opera is nice for me just i want to take off the speed dial stuff
[03:48] <TheFishy> anyone know how?
[03:48] <dmcglone> no
[03:49] <dmcglone> I don't
[03:49] <Minataku> I'd say modify the source code but OPERA IS PROPRIETARY
[03:51] <TheFishy> lol
[03:53] <thomas_newbie__> can someone help me with a binary question
[03:54] <radikale> hi
[03:54] <radikale> the updater crashed during updating
[03:54] <radikale> help
[03:54] <radikale> is it borked?
[03:54] <radikale> how to recover?
[03:55] <thomas_newbie__> i have a question about binary subtraction, but I don't wanna post it here. Can anyone help me in pvt?
[03:56] <radikale> heelo?
[03:56] <TheFishy> radikale:  just relaunch it
[03:57] <TheFishy> thomas_newbie__:  10 = 2 100= 3 101=4
[03:57] <TheFishy> its simple
[03:57] <TheFishy> 01 is 01
[03:57] <TheFishy> then u move the 1 over for each number
[04:03] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: what's wrong with konqueror?
[04:03] <TheFishy> its doesn't load flash right
[04:04] <Nvrnight> burning the cd now Minataku, it's only a matter of time now
[04:04] <TheFishy> minataku whats that
[04:04] <Nvrnight> ...before I go stab people at work
[04:04]  * TheFishy gives Nvrnight a knife
[04:04] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: loads it for me
[04:05] <TheFishy> meh it lags it up
[04:10] <TheFishy> does anyone know how to load up scripts in konversation
[04:10] <DaSkreech> konversation does scripts?
[04:11] <TheFishy> does it?
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> You can alias commands to execute shell scripts, yeah
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> Unfortunately, it doesn't have event handling, though
[04:11] <TheFishy> well i have a mirc script that allows me to accept or decline pms...
[04:12] <TheFishy> damn thats event handling
[04:12] <TheFishy> irc script*
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, don't think you could do that in Konversation
[04:12] <TheFishy> what do u use? oh wait
[04:12] <TheFishy> xchat :P
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> I'm kinda surprised nobody has implemented it yet. Seems like it should be pretty easy for someone that knows the source code
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> Heh, yeah, I have one event-based script that I just can't quite let go of yet
[04:13] <surgy> !compiz
[04:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:13] <TheFishy> compiz sucks
[04:13] <TheFishy> :P
[04:14] <surgy> well i was looking for the name of what beryl turned into so that i can join the appropriate channel to ask questions
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> That'd be #compiz-fusion
[04:14] <surgy> Dragnslcr: thank you
[04:15] <TheFishy> Dragnslcr: does xchat support event handling
[04:17] <surgy> is there a program for kubuntu to set an alarm? an audible alarm?
[04:17] <Nvrnight> Minataku: It seams to be working now with that alternate cd
[04:17] <mot__> in the processes window
[04:18] <mot__> what's the difference between vmsize and vmrss
[04:18] <DaSkreech> surgy: on what event?
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> TheFishy- yeah, it does. You can use Perl or Python to attach functions to events
[04:19] <g2g591> surgy;kalarm .
[04:20] <TheFishy> i dont know those lanuages... do u know any sites that allows u to download scripts to add on?
[04:20] <Dragnslcr> Not offhand. I wrote my own
[04:20] <surgy> DaSkreech: on a time event, say play certain audio file at a certain time at a certain volume
[04:21] <DaSkreech> surgy: isn't that what kalarm is for?
[04:21] <surgy> DaSkreech: im unfamiliar with kalarm, but im installing it now :)
[04:21] <surgy> g2g591: thnx
[04:21] <wallabee> hiho
[04:22] <TheFishy> ugh GUYS stop apt-getting... its bogged down right now
[04:22] <surgy> TheFishy: lol, so you can use it?
[04:22] <TheFishy> yeah why not?
[04:22] <TheFishy> :P
[04:24] <Nvrnight> bleh, my installation is taking forever at 83%, I hope it's not frozen
[04:24] <Nvrnight> nvm, there it went lol
[04:24] <wallabee> same here ;)
[04:24] <wallabee> 83% hehe
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: you have the cable plugged in?
[04:26] <neville__> Just for that
[04:26] <neville__> I'm going to go apt-get mode now =]
[04:26] <wallabee> sudo modprobe em28xx
[04:26] <wallabee> sorry wrong window
[04:26] <DaSkreech> neville__: sudo apt-get install *
[04:27] <surgy> did they ever fix the problem with kubuntu 64 where it had crappy support for 32 bit apps?
[04:27] <TheFishy> whats that command do?
[04:27] <neville__> I know how to use apt-get, I just wanted a reaction from that guy...
[04:28] <TheFishy> neville__: im done using it now
[04:28] <TheFishy> bog it down as much as u want
[04:28] <surgy> let me rephrase that, last time i tryed kubuntu 64 i couldnt use half my programs becuase they were 32 bit, but that was almost a year ago, has this been fixed?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> With boneitis?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> surgy: I have no idea what half your programs are and as such have no way of helping you
[04:30] <tazgodx_> how do i install a printer? and does anyone know if the lexmark 1400 series works on linux?
[04:30] <surgy> DaSkreech: lol ok, answered my question, ill wait, if i dont hear "every 32 bit app will work" then i dont want it :)
[04:30] <surgy> !printer | tazgodx_
[04:30] <ubotu> tazgodx_: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:31] <DaSkreech> surgy: 32 bit apps are bound to be wonky under a 64bit OS
[04:31] <surgy> DaSkreech: well then untill all my software is updated to 64bit then thats a no go for me
[04:31] <TheFishy> is there anyway to save the apt-cache search list to look through it later?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> surgy: are they open source?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: it is saved. Its local
[04:32] <surgy> DaSkreech: most some arnt
[04:32] <surgy> cedega for example
[04:32] <DaSkreech> you can pull out the cable and still apt-cache search
[04:32] <TheFishy> DaSkreech: so i will be able to do it offline?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> surgy: I think that you can pull the CVS and compile  cedega for 64 bit
[04:32] <DaSkreech> TheFishy: yes
[04:32] <surgy> DaSkreech: then what is the point of me paying for the precompiled version :)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> you can't apt-get install obviously but you can find what you want
[04:32] <TheFishy> DaSkreech: awesome. ty
[04:33] <TheFishy> of course.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> surgy: well if you are paying them complain
[04:33] <surgy> DaSkreech: i will
[04:34] <wallabee> anyone tried mirc with wine?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> wallabee: You like Mirc that much?
[04:38] <TheFishy> Mirc is crap
[04:38] <TheFishy> but it works with wine...
[04:38] <wallabee> a ok thanks
[04:38] <TheFishy> 4000b/s via apt-get :(
[04:39] <loaxx> wallabee dont run mirc in kubuntu
[04:39] <loaxx> konversation is actually ok.
[04:39] <loaxx> and bitchx is nice
[04:39] <loaxx> are you a mirc scripter ??
[04:40] <loaxx> www.aric.org
[04:40] <TheFishy> i am
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: hi :)
[04:40] <loaxx> well, learn to tcl script.
[04:40] <wallabee> no i don't need it for me
[04:40] <DaSkreech> hello
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: can you help me with a question thats killin me
[04:40] <loaxx> then have bots run your sripts
[04:40] <XceII> From what I have seen / kopete does it all.
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47651/
[04:40] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: no clue
[04:40] <wallabee> just need it for my brother who switched to linux yesterday
[04:40] <thomas_newbie__> :(
[04:41] <loaxx> I really love kubuntu, ive been using it for a while. I went Kdesktop over gnome because we were using redhat with kdesktop at my school and thats what I learned on.
[04:41] <TheFishy> i hate where xchat's input line is
[04:42] <loaxx> but I am gonna switch soon to Debian with kde on it
[04:42] <TheFishy> time to purge
[04:42] <loaxx> aloy of people make fun of me for using kubuntu at home.
[04:42] <loaxx> alot.
[04:43] <TheFishy> i use linux mint kde version
[04:43] <TheFishy> kde rocks
[04:43] <neville__> Those people are silly
[04:43] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: does look wrong though
[04:43] <neville__> I use Kubuntu at home (like right now)
[04:43] <neville__> And the same happened
[04:43] <neville__> Until they actually saw it...
[04:44] <neville__> =]
[04:44] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: don't know why?
[04:44] <XceII> loaxx: Dont mind them..they are show offs waiting for a fall.
[04:44] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: only the first 4 digits are off
[04:45] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: where did you add the one?
[04:46] <Neoxeekhrobe> guys I am running Kubuntu on Intel p3 960MHz with 512mb ram. I will upgrade to 1G ram because Kubuntu sometimes gets slow and only 22% of ram is free when I am doing nothing. What I want to know is that is 1G ram enough or should I move to P4 with 1G ram?
[04:46] <XceII> I would suggest 1-2 megs of ram
[04:46] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: calculator says: 1101 1101 0010         my answer is: 1110 1101 0010
[04:47] <surgy> can i install kubuntu on a pocket pc? with a 300 mhz proc and 32 mb ram?
[04:47] <TheFishy> i have 2.4 ghz with 1 gb ddr 333
[04:47] <TheFishy> surgy: no
[04:47] <XceII> lol no surgy
[04:47] <wallabee> surgy: use familiar linux
[04:47] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: yes did in your working out where did you add the one?
[04:47] <XceII> dls linux may work=damn small linux
[04:47] <TheFishy> if i cant install it on my palm os 300 mhz 2gb ram u cant install it on that
[04:48] <DaSkreech> surgy: there is a Ubuntu mobile edition install hat install kubuntu and take off gnome
[04:48] <DaSkreech> then suffffaaaa!!!!
[04:48] <DaSkreech> <end 300 mode>
[04:48] <TheFishy> does ubuntu mobile edition support palm os devices
[04:49] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: i didn't.....its still there because theres nothing underneath 1110
[04:51] <wallabee> jihaa my cinergy dvbt usb card works hehe
[04:51] <XceII> yay
[04:54] <TheFishy> whats the min req for ubuntu mobile
[04:54] <XceII> google it
[04:54] <XceII> your modle
[04:55] <TheFishy> huh
[04:56] <XceII> google your model# of your component..it should have specs
[04:56] <Syntra> Guys, does Kubuntu block any ports by default?
[04:56] <XceII> oh..sry missed it
[04:58] <charmgene> hi, just installed compiz on kubuntu guty, but there are no iwndows borders. anyone can help?
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> have you installed emerald?
[04:58] <charmgene> yes
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> did you start compiz with --replace?
[04:59] <charmgene> yes
[04:59] <charmgene> and emerald does not take effect
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> alt+f2 emerald --replace
[05:00] <charmgene> thank you i'll try it
[05:01] <Nvrnight> Does it take Ubuntu a long time at the "Cleaning up..." stage?
[05:02] <XceII> Whats the clean up stage?
[05:02] <Nvrnight> 97%
[05:02] <TheFishy> I am trying to get my palm tx to sync with linux mint (kubutu) can someone help me with it?
[05:02] <XceII> What command did you use
[05:03] <XceII> Nvrnight: What command did you use?
[05:03] <Nvrnight> I'm installing Ubuntu
[05:03] <Nvrnight> it says it's "Cleaning Up..."
[05:04] <XceII> ah  it is prolly still initialising then..let it go
[05:04] <Nvrnight> aight
[05:04] <XceII> It will prompt you for re-boot
[05:04] <Nvrnight> lol check this out in offtopic, hilarity
[05:05] <gadren> hey, i've got another question -- my sound isn't working at all.  I've set up mp3 support in Amarok, both mp3 and oggs are working (Amarok's visualizations are moving with the music), but i hear no sound from anything.  the volume is set right, by the way
[05:06] <TheFishy> did u try pluging in an audio output device?
[05:06] <gadren> what do you mean?
[05:06] <TheFishy> double check its plugged in, seriously happens to me
[05:07] <TheFishy> ...
[05:07] <TheFishy> like speakers
[05:07] <gadren> yeah, everything's plugged in
[05:07] <TheFishy> or headphones
[05:07] <TheFishy> u sure?
[05:07] <gadren> i changed amarok's sound output to oss, and it started playing
[05:07] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two's_complement
[05:07] <gadren> but when it's alsa or autodetect it doesn't work
[05:07] <gadren> how can i get it to work in alsa?
[05:07] <TheFishy> well then...
[05:07] <TheFishy> use oss...
[05:08] <TheFishy> what the difference of these modes?
[05:08] <gadren> well, i heard that alsa is more maintained and that it allows for playing multiple audio streams at a time
[05:08] <gadren> and i've had alsa working on this laptop before
[05:08] <TheFishy> can the palmdesktop be used with wine?
[05:09] <Level15> hmmm, hi everyone. my kmail does not want to decrypt msgs, it says bad passphrase, which is odd b-c it never asks for it... any ideas_
[05:09] <Level15> ?
[05:09] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: lol dude i've read through all that and more
[05:10] <Nvrnight> Ok, my Ubuntu loads to 100% and then my montior shuts off like the system is going into standby
[05:11] <XceII> move your mouse and see if it goes
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: can you jump to terminal one?
[05:11] <Nvrnight> I just have a keyboard hooked up atm, do I need a mouse?
[05:11] <XceII> oi
[05:11] <Nvrnight> terminal one?
[05:11] <wallabee> use the space button
[05:12] <Nvrnight> it doesn't do anything pressing buttons
[05:12] <Nvrnight> it's not actually standby but the screen is shut off as if it was
[05:12] <Nvrnight> it does it everytime after the ubuntu loading bar gets to 100%
[05:14] <wallabee> Nvrnight, you can try restarting the xserver with   strg + alt + backspace
[05:14] <gadren> OK, i got it working.  Just to let y'all know, the command to get it working was "asoundconf set-default-card had-intel"
[05:14] <level1> Hi, something is using my disk space in /home at a rate of 2MB/s until the drive is full.  If I delete something to free up space, it will fill it up again.  is there a way I can find out what it is?
[05:14] <Nvrnight> strg?
[05:14] <XceII> ctl
[05:14] <wallabee> sorry its ctl
[05:15] <wallabee> ctrl ;)
[05:15] <Nvrnight> when should I press ctrl+alt+backspace when I restart?
[05:16] <level1> is there any kind of program that will monitor hard drive access in real time?  or tell me what the most recently accessed file is?
[05:16] <XceII> htop works
[05:16] <wallabee> no when the screen is black
[05:16] <Nvrnight> ahh, it doesn't do anything
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: does alt+ctrl+F1 get you anything?
[05:17] <XceII> it tells what is being uses and what %age is being used vis process
[05:17] <XceII> esed
[05:17] <Nvrnight> ctrl alt f1 does nothing as well
[05:18] <XceII> Nvrnight: In all my time monitoring the channel I never seen anyone boot or install ubunto with no mouse...not saying it isnt done.
[05:18] <XceII> Unless your on a laptop.
[05:19] <Nvrnight> I used alternate install cd
[05:19] <makuseru> !mount
[05:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:19] <Nvrnight> text based
[05:19] <XceII> ah..#ubuntu might be the room for that
[05:19] <Nvrnight> trying there as well lol
[05:19] <XceII> gnome is tex based while kde is gui
[05:20] <Nvrnight> they telling me to search forums
[05:20] <XceII> Not 2 many tech on this time of nite (subday) try in a time zone known to be monday day.
[05:20] <XceII> sunday
[05:21] <TheFishy> I am trying to get my palm tx to sync with linux mint (kubutu) can someone help me with it?
[05:21]  * Hydrogen is curious to know why typing too is too much work
[05:22] <sparr_> I have 'bind,auto' mounts in my fstab now.  when i rebooted, fsck dumped me into a maintenance console with nothing mounted because it couldnt run on them (duh).  how can i avoid that?
[05:22] <XceII> Comes with the territory.
[05:22] <XceII> Handle it.
[05:23] <XceII> Wondrs why people nit pick out of personal duty.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !bootoptions | Nvrnight
[05:25] <ubotu> Nvrnight: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: you are looking for vga
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Hydrogen: Me 2
[05:26] <XceII> Me (t2oo)
[05:29] <TooEarly> is there any log or command to show when you installed your os
[05:35] <Nvrnight> DaSkreech: k, I used vga=771(800x6 w/ 256 colors) and the monitor still turns off as if the system was going into standby
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: and alt+ctrl+F1 still doesn't work?
[05:35] <Nvrnight> right
[05:36] <Level15> Nvrnight: do vga=normal
[05:36] <Nvrnight> k
[05:37] <Nvrnight> awsome it worked, you're my new hero level15, you just gained enough xp for level16, you win the internet
[05:38] <Nvrnight> nvm I spoke too soon, it went through a whole lot of bootup stuff and then it shut off again
[05:40] <Level15> HAHAHA
[05:40] <XceII> oi
[05:40] <Level15> it probably shut off when X started or something
[05:40] <Level15> could you describe exactly what was the las thing you say on the screen?
[05:41] <Level15> *last
[05:41] <Nvrnight> I'll run it again and see what it says last
[05:42] <XceII> stop miss spelling..there are hidden grammatical programmers watching.
[05:42] <Level15> hahaha
[05:42] <XceII> 2 b or not 2 b.
[05:43] <Nvrnight> something about battery stats and then it does one more line and it shut off before I can tell what that line says
[05:44] <XceII> wow r U on bat right now?.if not take the bat out and rely on supply...just a thought
[05:44] <Nvrnight> lol no I'm not
[05:44] <Nvrnight> it's a desktop
[05:44] <XceII> weird
[05:45] <Nvrnight> he asked what the last thing I see on the screen is before it goes blank
[05:45] <XceII> looks like x is looking like a laptop
[05:45] <XceII> @
[05:46] <XceII> Wonders if install was ok
[05:46] <Level15> try now the ctrl+alt+f1 thing
[05:46] <XceII> what are you running..
[05:47] <Nvrnight> ctrl+alt+f1 does nothing
[05:49] <Nvrnight> gonna try it with another monitor
[05:49] <Daisuke-Ido> then try ctrl+alt+f2
[05:49] <Nvrnight> a more up to date one
[05:50] <XceII> Nvrnight: What are you installing...ubuntu or kubuntu
[05:51] <Nvrnight> ubuntu
[05:51] <XceII> k
[05:51] <Nvrnight> well it's not the monitor, it does the same with a good monitor
[05:52] <Nvrnight> the last thing that appears on the screen is something about battery state
[05:52] <XceII> not having a mouse confuses me..
[05:52] <XceII> on a desktop
[05:52] <wallabee> lol
[05:53] <Nvrnight> I got one, just not on that computer lol
[05:53] <XceII> I think ya screwed up
[05:53] <Nvrnight> I don't think it's mouse related though
[05:53] <XceII> fight the good fight...rock on.
[05:54] <Nvrnight> maybe it has to do with my video card, ati radeon 9700 pro
[05:55] <XceII> Thinks that once an o/s is installed (*with) mouse..it can be configed @ a later time to do different
[05:55] <XceII> could be..get a mouse..their cheap..really.
[05:55] <abhra> Hi, Any body know why Quicktime quits with buffer overrun error. Please help
[05:56] <Nvrnight> I have mouses, just not on that comp lol
[05:56] <Nvrnight> I have 3 comps, my laptop, my desktop, and the desktop I'm trying to put Ubuntu on, only 2 mouses
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> your laptop has a touchpad, no?
[05:57] <XceII> Do the right thing..re install and use a mouse till U learn the o/s..this is a time waster.
[05:57] <XceII> Think Smart.
[05:57] <Nvrnight> lol how is learning the os going to help if I can't get it to boot up
[05:58] <XceII> Have a good one.
[05:58] <Nvrnight> fyi when I use the live cd it does the exact same thing, with the mouse hooked up
[05:59] <XceII> Then U may have the wrong write..try another 1.
[05:59] <XceII> What mobo and cpu do U have?
[06:00] <Nvrnight> Mainboard mb with intel pentium III cpu(not sure what speed)
[06:01] <XceII> And (burn) it at a slow speed (ensuring) quality.
[06:01] <XceII> Think Smart.
[06:01] <XceII> 700mhz?
[06:01] <Eicca> how come my Kcron wont work? I put 10.12 and 6:00 and to command "shutdown" and it did nothing.. o_O
[06:01] <Nvrnight> 800mhz
[06:02] <Nvrnight> now that I think about it
[06:02] <XceII> Re do the write.
[06:02] <Dr_willis_> Hmm, is kcron for user cron jobs or can it set up root cron jobs?
[06:02] <Nvrnight> k
[06:03] <XceII> And (use) a mouse..it can be changed later..
[06:04] <XceII> Stop using the room as a experimentation source/ That dont cut it and is a time waster.
[06:05] <XceII> Think Smart.
[06:05] <Nvrnight> I'm just trying to get a problem solved. That is all
[06:05] <Hydrogen> Eicca: you need to pass more parameters to shutdown
[06:06] <Hydrogen> Eicca: and run it as root
[06:06] <Hydrogen> Eicca: or use `poweroff` as root
[06:06] <XceII> Thats fine..but start from scratch and learn the o/s first.
[06:06] <Dr_willis_> Linux FUNdaMENTALS  ! :)
[06:06] <Nvrnight> How do you expect me to learn the o/s if I can't even boot it up
[06:07] <XceII> Nvrnight: Use a mouse and burn @ a slow speed....enjoy it when you do.
[06:07]  * Dr_willis_ has totally missed the problem
[06:08] <XceII> Nvrnight: With a graphics card..without a mouse..U are on your own
[06:08] <Nvrnight> I told you I tried with a mouse
[06:08] <Eicca> Hydrogen: so "sudo poweroff"
[06:08] <Nvrnight> I'm going to burn at the slowest speed to rule out that problem to
[06:08] <Hydrogen> Eicca: yes
[06:08] <Eicca> arent I supposed to give the sudo password then?
[06:08] <XceII> Dr_willisHe installed ubuntu without a mouse on a 800mhz sys.
[06:09] <Level15> i think there's a group called shutdown or something
[06:09] <XceII> with an old graphics card @ that.
[06:09] <Eicca> Hydrogen: well umm I want it to shut down at night :D
[06:09] <sigma> anyone know of some php software like ubuntu hive?
[06:10] <Dr_willis_> !php
[06:10] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:10] <Hydrogen> Eicca: you could add a rule to sudoers to do so..
[06:10] <Hydrogen> or you could add it to roots crontab
[06:10] <Dr_willis_> yep. roots crontab would be the way to do it i think.
[06:10] <Level15> sigma: what about hive itself?
[06:10] <Eicca> if I add it to roots crontab I just put "sudo shutdown" and I dont have to give the password?
[06:11] <sigma> i know about lamp, im looking for a program like joomla but one that manages a media collection
[06:11] <Hydrogen> you don't need sudo then
[06:11]  * Dr_willis_ though sigma ment 'have'
[06:11] <Dr_willis_> :)
[06:11] <XceII> be-have?
[06:11] <XceII> lol
[06:11] <sigma> Level15: isn't that project dead? if not where do u download it from?
[06:11] <gadren> does anyone have experience in setting up kgtk with firefox?
[06:11] <Hydrogen> kgtk?
[06:11] <Hydrogen> sounds like a bad idea
[06:11] <Level15> sigma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Hive
[06:12] <Level15> sigma: dunno if it's dead
[06:12] <sigma> gadren: id also like to know how to do that
[06:12] <Dr_willis_> !info kgtk
[06:12] <ubotu> Package kgtk does not exist in gutsy
[06:12] <gadren> i've been trying with every .deb of it i can find, but when i try to run it with firefox, it either goes into a memory-eating infinite loop, or a segfault
[06:13] <sigma> kgtk is only on kde-apps.org , its a script
[06:13] <Level15> kgtk???
[06:13] <XceII> NYC?..geta rope...lol.
[06:14] <Hydrogen> err
[06:14] <Hydrogen> you should use
[06:14] <gadren> yeah, it replaces firefox's file dialogs with kde's
[06:15] <Hydrogen> gtk-qt-engine
[06:15] <Hydrogen> not some random script on kde-appps that got crapped out by someone
[06:15] <Level15> gadren: oh, that's cool
[06:16] <gadren> hydrogen, that's not the same -- gtk-qt-engine is for widget style, not for actual changes in dialogs
[06:16] <Eicca> hmm wtf, this is weird
[06:16] <Level15> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGtk+for+Kubuntu+Feisty?content=67315
[06:16] <Eicca> yesterday I played Lemmingball Z and WoW (with wine) just fine
[06:16] <Eicca> but today nothing works :D
[06:16] <Hydrogen> hmm
[06:16] <Hydrogen> true
[06:16] <Hydrogen> then use opera
[06:16] <Eicca> I type in "wine WoW.exe" as usual and nothing pops out to the screen
[06:16] <Hydrogen> because firefox is almost as bad as gtk
[06:16] <XceII> lol opera
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> moasic!
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> Mosaic?
[06:17] <Hydrogen> and I do agree, gtk's file dialog is the worst adventure I've ever undertaken
[06:17] <Dr_willis_> :) i forget the spelling
[06:17] <Level15> personally, I can't wait till konq uses webkit
[06:17] <Hydrogen> the gimp manages to make it worse than usual
[06:17] <sigma> gadren: try flock, it has a amazing theme, looks kinda like kde
[06:18] <gadren> this isn't about themes, sigma :)  i already have a crystal theme for firefox
[06:18] <Dr_willis_> there is a flock theme for firefox. :) but its not 'quiet' the same
[06:18] <Dr_willis_> not really compared flock with firefox in depth however.
[06:18] <Hydrogen> I thought there was a way to choose the dialog type in firefox
[06:18] <Hydrogen> but maybe i'm actually thinking of opera
[06:19] <sigma> gadren: theres another alternative to the file dialogs
[06:19] <gadren> the about:config thing?
[06:19] <gadren> yeah, i know
[06:19] <gadren> but a while back, i had gotten kgtk working, but i can't for the life of me remember how i did it
[06:19] <Hydrogen> but
[06:20] <Hydrogen> use opera and your life will get much much better
[06:20] <Level15> sigma: yeah, avoid ff
[06:20] <Level15> use konq
[06:20] <gadren> thanks, but that's not what i'm looking for
[06:20] <gadren> i've tried both, by the way
[06:20] <Hydrogen> konq is opera lite.
[06:20] <sigma> level15: konq is hopeless
[06:21] <XceII> How so Hydrogen..I need to know..I didnt have good luck with it.
[06:21] <sigma> gadren: change ui.allow_platform_file_picker to false in about:config. it helps a bit
[06:21] <Hydrogen> XceII: that is an extremely open ended question
[06:21] <XceII> I know
[06:21] <gadren> thanks, sigma -- if i can't get kgtk working on my own, i'll do that
[06:22] <XceII> Hydrogen:  I use (no script) on ff.. what in opera would compare?
[06:22] <Hydrogen> speed
[06:22] <Hydrogen> opera is about 300x faster in doing everything
[06:22] <Hydrogen> than firefox
[06:22] <Hydrogen> and it uses qt isntead of gtk
[06:22] <Hydrogen> yay integration
[06:22] <Level15> Hydrogen: except, maybe, loading for the 1st time
[06:22] <sigma> if only there was a nice deb for kgtk, because that really integrates firefox
[06:23] <Hydrogen> Level15: maybe, I load it on startup
[06:23] <Hydrogen> so I don'[t notice it
[06:23] <XceII> interesting
[06:23] <sigma> hydrogen: i don't feel much of a speed diff
[06:23] <Level15> ff is a cpu + ram hog
[06:23] <emilsedgh> my knemo is not working right, i mean it always increase/decreases the sound, but most of the times it doesnt show itself (osd)
[06:23] <gadren> there are some debs for kgtk, sigma
[06:23] <Hydrogen> and the opera 9.5 snapshots are shaping up to be yet another riddiculous amount of speed faster
[06:23] <XceII> That makes sense though.
[06:23] <sigma> opera actually felt slower for me
[06:23] <gadren> but i just don't know if they're working for me -- when i try to use them, i get the errors i first mentioend
[06:23] <XceII> me 2 sigma
[06:24] <Hydrogen> sigma: err, numbers all support the opera
[06:24] <sigma> gadren: where did u find them?
[06:24] <Hydrogen> plus
[06:24] <Hydrogen> try navigating back a page
[06:24] <Hydrogen> its instant
[06:24] <gadren> i just googled for kgtk deb, and there were a couple on kde-apps
[06:24] <sigma> but its missing the "exception" to showing all images option
[06:24] <XceII> I'll stick with ff..opera did sem slower and had 2 many errors.
[06:25] <Hydrogen> also, mouse gestures (awesome).. the fact that it can handle more than ten tabs without using giant amoutns of ram..
[06:25] <Hydrogen> the fact that its at least mostly standards compliant
[06:25] <Hydrogen> and doesn't invent its own standards (hello firefox)
[06:26] <XceII> nah
[06:26] <wallabee> is there something like acdsee in kde?
[06:27] <sigma> gadren: did u have a problem installing it?
[06:27] <XceII> Opera is tempting....like a crack pipe.....enjoy.
[06:27] <XceII> lol
[06:27] <Hydrogen> you are relaly bad at making sense
[06:27] <praveenm> hi all, how to connect to my ubuntu server via XDMCP, is there any GUI or command to connect?
[06:27] <Level15> hell, I don't find a crap pipe tempting
[06:27] <gadren> well, the .deb files install fine, sigma, but when i try to use them, "kgtk-wrapper firefox" or "kgtk2-wrapper firefox", it says there's a segmentation error
[06:28] <Hydrogen> wait.. i shld say...  u dont make much sense...
[06:28] <XceII> Hydrogen:  sniff the clean air of (fire-fox)....enjoy.
[06:28] <Hydrogen> heh
[06:28] <Hydrogen> I can tell you've never looked at the code behind it
[06:28] <Hydrogen> its a nice cess pool
[06:29] <XceII> exactly..I realise that..
[06:29] <sigma> gadren: how exactly do u use them? keeps telling me that kdeinit can't find the file
[06:29] <XceII> opera is for porn users.
[06:29] <gadren> heh, i'm not sure, sigma
[06:29] <Level15> XceII: lol! why?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> wallabee: whats' accdsee?
[06:30] <XceII> it has (speed).
[06:30] <wallabee> acdsee the image proggl
[06:30] <wallabee> with database preview and so on
[06:30] <DaSkreech> try digikam
[06:30] <Hydrogen> well
[06:30] <Hydrogen> considdering everyone "uses" porn, I guess opera is for everyone!
[06:30] <XceII> c
[06:30] <sigma> lol
[06:31] <XceII> self telling,
[06:31] <wallabee> ok will try it thanx
[06:31] <sigma> why is opera the porn browser?
[06:31] <emilsedgh> i got a problem with restricted manager, its not getting saved, i check my wireless, it downloads the firmware and runs, but when i restart, it forgets about it
[06:31] <Cannoli> !network
[06:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:31] <XceII> !opera
[06:31] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:32] <XceII> Not commercial!
[06:32] <wallabee> XceII, thats for you  http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645
[06:32] <Cannoli> !networking
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <XceII> whats it about wallabee
[06:33] <Cannoli> !printer
[06:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:34] <XceII> I'm not your average lolly pop wallabee.  stay tuned.
[06:34] <wallabee> lol
[06:35] <gadren> say, i used to have a /usr/local/bin/firefox, but not anymore -- anyone know how to get it back?
[06:35] <gadren> reinstalling firefox through apt doesn't do it
[06:35] <wallabee> DaSkreech, had it installed but never tried it but digikam is exactly what i need hehe thanx
[06:36] <XceII> What did youbdo that the room doesnt know about garden
[06:36] <DaSkreech> !equivalents
[06:36] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:36] <DaSkreech> wallabee: ^^^
[06:36] <DaSkreech> If you want KDE versions of that list you can ask but that should help you for a few weeks
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> gadren: locate firefox
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> though /usr/bin/ should be default
[06:37] <DaSkreech> which firefox would be more helpful
[06:37] <emilsedgh> gadren: whereis firefox
[06:37] <XceII> The one that is more oranger.
[06:37] <XceII> lol
[06:37] <sigma> linux is so much better than windows, i can encode any video for my smartphone, in windows i could only encode a fraction of my collection
[06:37] <XceII> I agree sigma.
[06:37] <joseph> how do i look up my gateway adress ?
[06:38] <Nvrnight> ok I got my problem fixed lol, the command that fixed it is "vga=normal nosplash single"
[06:38] <sigma> daskreech: i like flock
[06:38] <emilsedgh> gadren: type that in konsole
[06:38] <DaSkreech> sigma: say that loudly anytime you pass someone :)
[06:38] <Nvrnight> just so you know for future reference
[06:38] <sigma> lol
[06:38] <gadren> i did
[06:38] <DaSkreech> sigma: wonderful
[06:38] <XceII> opers stinks though...dont do it......no waiting.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: :)
[06:38] <gadren> i know that firefox is in /usr/bin
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: single?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: thats' not cool
[06:38] <Nvrnight> yea, the screen doesn't go black now
[06:38] <Nvrnight> lol
[06:38] <gadren> but i could have sworn there was one in /usr/local/bin too
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: it doesn't work without single?
[06:38] <Hydrogen> only if you didn't install it through apt
[06:38] <Nvrnight> nope
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: >_<
[06:39] <DaSkreech> that's bad
[06:39] <Nvrnight> they said I need to edit a .conf file for my video card
[06:39] <Hydrogen>  /usr/local is reserved for stuff installed otuside of ythe package management system
[06:39] <sigma> gadren: lol, perhaps u should delete that one
[06:39] <XceII> lol
[06:39] <gadren> oh, ok
[06:39] <Nvrnight> something to do with "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Nvrnight: that would be right
[06:39] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[06:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:39] <DaSkreech> or read that link ^^^^
[06:39] <XceII> I just sent bill gates a kubuntu xmas card.
[06:40] <DaSkreech> XceII: as long as it was in ODF i approve
[06:40] <Hydrogen> and he just made antoher million dollars on windows sales
[06:40] <maduser2> whoa konverstion logged me off
[06:40] <XceII> ya it was.
[06:40] <Cannoli> !.ebuild
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebuild - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <maduser2> now i can not use my identified name
[06:41] <Level15> maduser2: there's a way to tell nickserv to kick the other you
[06:41] <DaSkreech> maduser2: ghost it
[06:41] <sigma> xcell: lol where did u find that
[06:41] <XceII> lol
[06:41] <XceII> gimp
[06:41] <maduser2> how?
[06:42] <Hydrogen> maduser: /nickserv ghost nickname password
[06:42] <maduser2> thanks
[06:43] <XceII> brb
[06:43] <maduser> thanks
[06:44] <emilsedgh> DaSkreech: where is jucato?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> emilsedgh: out
[06:44] <Cannoli> can someone help me set up a printer please
[06:44] <DaSkreech> !printer
[06:44] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:44] <maduser> is it HP?
[06:44] <Cannoli> i looked up my printer but i cant seem to find a driver for it
[06:44] <Cannoli> no its lexmark x74
[06:47] <DaSkreech> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X74
[06:47] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[06:48] <XceII> check
[06:49] <maduser> ?
[06:49] <Nvrnight> I edited the file, do I do writeout or exit
[06:49] <sigma> brb chaps
[06:50] <XceII> k sigma
[06:50] <maduser> w00t
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Writeout
[06:50] <XceII> Yahoooooooo!
[06:50] <Nvrnight> it says ^O for writeout
[06:50] <Nvrnight> so what does that mean exactly, lol
[06:51] <maduser> he's using nano?
[06:51] <Nvrnight> yea
[06:51] <maduser> why not just use kate
[06:51] <Nvrnight> dunno what that is, all I know is I have to change this driver to Vesa
[06:51] <XceII> lol c?
[06:51] <XceII> vesa is your bet
[06:51] <maduser> the text editor
[06:52] <maduser> like notpad
[06:52] <Level15> or get a dellbuntu :P
[06:52] <Nvrnight> I have put vesa as the driver now, just got to save the changes
[06:52] <XceII> Nvrnight: is it ati or nvidia
[06:52] <Nvrnight> ati
[06:52] <XceII> oi
[06:52] <maduser> i haven't had that many problems with my ati card
[06:52] <maduser> considering it is 3 years old
[06:53] <XceII> Thats why
[06:53] <maduser> should i get a new ati or will that cause problems?
[06:53] <XceII> if it works..dont break it
[06:54] <maduser> I mean like uprgrade card
[06:54] <XceII> I wouldnt
[06:54] <maduser> ah
[06:54] <Level15> maduser: if u want new card and care abt acceleration, go to nvidia
[06:54] <maduser> cool
[06:55] <maduser> its also for a labtop
[06:55] <XceII> still
[06:55] <maduser> changing cards for that is a bitch
[06:56] <maduser> i guess ill stay
[06:56] <XceII> I can just see the flat head screw driver marks on madusers lappy..lol
[06:56] <Cannoli> how do i run a .install file?
[06:58] <Level15> Cannoli: probably chmod it +x and then ./myfile.install
[06:59] <Cannoli> ah ic
[06:59] <Cannoli> kk i'll try it
[06:59] <Level15> cya all
[07:00] <XceII> w/b
[07:00] <XceII> opera is now adjar.
[07:00] <sigma> lol
[07:02] <sigma> im getting a new 250gb sata hdd, should i foresee any problems installing it into kubuntu?
[07:02] <unix_infidel> no.
[07:02] <unix_infidel> XceII: adjar?
[07:02] <XceII> That would rock the house sigma.
[07:02] <XceII> unix_infidel: misplaced..un available.
[07:02] <Cannoli> hmm that chmod thing didnt work
[07:03] <Cannoli> how would i execute a .install file?
[07:03] <Cannoli> actually lemme check google first
[07:03] <sigma> lol i need somewhere to store my media collection, im msick of switching between dvd's, its so time-consuming
[07:03] <unix_infidel> Cannoli: chmod + x filename; ./filename.sh
[07:04] <unix_infidel> Cannoli: DISCLAIMER!!: if this package is available in repos, please install that package.
[07:04] <Nvrnight> hahahahaa it works now!
[07:04] <XceII> nice
[07:04] <Nvrnight> just had to use the vesa driver instead of ati
[07:04] <XceII> c
[07:04] <unix_infidel> XceII: available?
[07:04] <sigma> the vesa driver is rather hopless
[07:05] <XceII> nice job Nvrnight
[07:05] <sigma> hopeless
[07:05] <XceII> for tv out..i agree
[07:05] <sigma> which card was that for?
[07:05] <XceII> desktop
[07:06] <Nvrnight> Now I can learn about the o/s lol
[07:06] <XceII> intel 800 mhz]
[07:06] <sigma> oh ok
[07:06] <XceII> learn son..learn
[07:07] <system_> hello room
[07:07] <XceII> Nvrnight: now do the compize thing...lol..good luck.
[07:07] <Nvrnight> but first I'm going to learn what it's like to stay up late getting something to work knowing that I have to be up early for work the next day
[07:07] <Nvrnight> g'night peoples
[07:07] <XceII> sleep well
[07:07] <system_> can any one tell me how i connect to yahoo chat?
[07:07] <XceII> dream...about..vesa..lol
[07:08] <Cannoli> hmmmm
[07:08] <maduser> kopete
[07:08] <Cannoli> it seems that i cant keep a button pressed
[07:08] <XceII> kopete
[07:08] <XceII> hrm
[07:08] <Cannoli> like i cant hold down the "e" key and have multiple e's appear
[07:08] <system_> is a first time ubuntu user
[07:08] <Cannoli> i have to press the key multiple times
[07:08] <Cannoli> why is that?
[07:09] <maduser> my sound just went out
[07:09] <system_> ok now how do you get to the programming rooms?
[07:10] <XceII> kopete?..I installed 2 paper cups and a piece of wire..works fine.
[07:11] <system_> has no idea???
[07:11] <XceII> look @ roomlist
[07:12] <system_> i must have something different.
[07:12] <XceII> What U have
[07:12] <system_> It says Kopete
[07:12] <XceII> ah
[07:12] <sigma> why does pressing the up and down buttons not move through my message list in kontact?
[07:12] <system_> i can see my friend list
[07:13] <system_> but cant get to the rooms
[07:13] <sigma> isnt the room list only in Konversation
[07:13] <XceII> no
[07:13] <XceII> It exists inall formats..just different to get
[07:14] <Cannoli> hmm i still seem to be having trouble executing a .install file
[07:14] <Cannoli> i tried
[07:14] <Cannoli>  chmod +x lxx74.install
[07:14] <Cannoli> and
[07:14] <Cannoli> lxx74.install; ./asd.sh
[07:16] <unix_infidel> Cannoli: what's this package called.
[07:16] <Cannoli> what package?
[07:16] <unix_infidel> is this a printer driver?
[07:16] <Cannoli> yes it is
[07:16] <Cannoli> im following instrucctions posted here
[07:16] <Cannoli> http://home.online.no/~enrio/
[07:17] <unix_infidel> i rarely print on linux
[07:17] <Cannoli> i want to move my printer to my xp pc but no room there -_-
[07:20] <kaankee> hi can anyone suggest me a SVN for kubuntu... i am not able download SVN available through package manager.. it is asking for kubuntu CD and i dont have it right now..
[07:20] <XceII> add/remove/third party software...uncheck cd
[07:21] <XceII> software sources @ the bottem
[07:22] <Cannoli> im so lost at this installation
[07:22] <Cannoli> :(
[07:31] <XceII> Why not print on linux..
[07:35] <uchi> help m goin thru H withdrawals
[07:36] <uchi> ??
[07:36] <sub[t]rnl> wow, what?
[07:37] <uchi> yup
[07:37] <uchi> m freakin out
[07:37] <uchi> help
[07:37] <uchi> ne docs here?
[07:37] <XceII> ?
[07:38] <uchi> ne one ever hooked up on "H"???
[07:38] <sub[t]rnl> call 911 and get some detox
[07:38] <XceII> lol
[07:38] <XceII> htox
[07:38] <uchi> hey m goin thru withdrawals
[07:38] <uchi> not od man
[07:38] <uchi> hehe
[07:38] <uchi> shity day
[07:39] <XceII> why
[07:39] <sub[t]rnl> hugs not drugs bro, say it with me
[07:39] <uchi> hugs
[07:39] <uchi> hehee
[07:39] <uchi> nvm
[07:39] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[07:39] <uchi> its ok
[07:39] <maduser> drugs?
[07:39] <uchi> yeah
[07:39] <maduser> good drugs?
[07:39] <XceII> hugs
[07:40] <uchi> SMACK
[07:40] <uchi> :(
[07:40] <XceII> punk
[07:40] <uchi> wish i never started dis shit
[07:40] <maduser> yeah
[07:42] <maduser> have you ever seen the devil went down to jamaca?
[07:42] <XceII> only drugs do that
[07:42] <uchi> are there any docs in da house??
[07:42] <XceII> what did U do
[07:43] <uchi> i jus want sum advice
[07:43] <XceII> ask
[07:43] <uchi> how can i eas da suffering??
[07:43] <XceII> explain
[07:43] <uchi> heroine withdrawals
[07:43] <uchi> how can i ease it??
[07:43] <XceII> milk
[07:44] <uchi> cant drink man
[07:44] <uchi> i keep puking
[07:44] <XceII> more milk  puking is good
[07:44] <uchi> :(
[07:45] <XceII> NO city water eithet..50% dead microbes.
[07:45] <uchi> u donno nething abt this do u???
[07:45] <posingaspopular> offtopic guys
[07:46] <uchi> i live near da golden triange;
[07:47] <uchi> shit use to be abandunt till da cops crack donw las nite
[07:47] <XceII> silly boy.
[07:47] <uchi> girl
[07:47] <uchi> sry
[07:49] <XceII> ask jesus back into your life and straighten up.
[07:49] <posingaspopular> !offtopic
[07:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:49] <posingaspopular> last warning
[07:52] <maduser2> nickserv ghost maduser dashdan001
[07:52] <maduser2> arg
[07:52] <posingaspopular> maduser2: forgot a /msg there?
[07:53] <maduser2> no i got to ghost my name
[08:03] <wallabee> what is the best solution to install a telnet server?
[08:03] <maduser> ssh?
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> go with ssh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:05] <wallabee> ok installed it
[08:05] <wallabee> and how can i open the connection to this machine?
[08:06] <maduser> ssh username@ip
[08:06] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: are you behind a router?
[08:06] <eshat> hi all ,... i have a problem with my function keys,... i set up global keys in kmix, but if i change volume with fn keys i don't see this little window with the volume bar,... any ideas ???
[08:07] <wallabee> jep im behind a router but i can forward the port later? cuz i want to test it on the machine i installed the ssh server
[08:08] <apparle> can aybody help me with kmix. I use OSS drivers
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> you need to edit your /etc/ssh/sshd_config if you want it to be accessible from outside the router
[08:09] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, ah ok thanx
[08:09] <wallabee> and to test it on the same machine its ssh myusername@localhost   ?
[08:11] <sigma> lol one of my windows clients got a virus and it corrupted his bios, instead of saying "verifying dmi pool" it says terifying dma pool :)
[08:11] <neville__> =/
[08:11] <neville__> That's actually quite funny
[08:11] <apparle> I am unable to start kmix
[08:12] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, i entert the in the commandline ssh myusername@localhost but it hangs right after the command
[08:12] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl,  same with the ip i got from the router
[08:13] <sigma> i ripped myself over the phone!
[08:13] <sigma> he even tried to flash the bios and that didn't work
[08:13] <sigma> thats wen u know its game over:)
[08:14] <sub[t]rnl> !ssh | wallabee
[08:14] <ubotu> wallabee: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:14] <apparle> sigma: Is he able to open the bios setup
[08:14] <wallabee> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:14] <wallabee> ups
[08:16] <system_> is lost in ubuntu!
[08:16] <system_> has no idea
[08:17] <apparle> anybody who can help me start kmix
[08:17] <wallabee> hehe installed putty and this terminated the xserver lol
[08:18] <eshat> hi all ,... i have a problem with my function keys,... i set up global keys in kmix, but if i change volume with fn keys i don't see this little window with the volume bar,... any ideas ???
[08:19] <system_> is frustrated with ubuntu
[08:19] <apparle> eshat: Is the volume changng when you press fn keys
[08:19] <ardchoille> system_: What do you need help with?
[08:19] <system_> i dont know how to connect to yahoo chat rooms?
[08:20] <eshat> apparle: yes ,...
[08:20] <sigma> apparle: ya apparently he can
[08:20] <ardchoille> system_: You can use kopete for Yahoo! chat
[08:20] <system_> all i see is my friends list
[08:20] <apparle> eshat: then whats the fuss. why do you wanna see the window
[08:21] <apparle> sigma: Then ask him to try fail-safe default values
[08:23] <sigma> hmm ya i 4got about that
[08:23] <Inferno> Anyone know why my vista drive wont allow me to access it anymore from kubuntu? says "permissions denied"
[08:23] <Inferno> when i try tp mount
[08:23] <neville__> Shut down Vista properly?
[08:23] <Inferno> yea
[08:23] <ubuntu__> salut
[08:23] <neville__> Reboot into it, then shut down, then go back into Kubunu, just to make sure
[08:24] <sigma> inferno: did u specify that any user may mount the drive?
[08:24] <apparle> ardchiolle: I use open sound drivers(OSS) instead of ALSA . As soon as I install the OSS package and reboot, KMIX stops. When I run kmix in konsole I get an error.
[08:24] <Inferno> honestly I'm a linux noob and it was working yesterday but when i booted today it didnt work so i think im gonna try to re-shutdown vista
[08:25] <apparle> Inferno: Did you get an error related to mounting of the vista drive while booting
[08:25] <Inferno> i didnt see one
[08:25] <sigma> apparle: why dont u use alsa?
[08:26] <apparle> sigma: I don't get any sound although correct module is loaded
[08:26] <wallabee> installed putty and the ssh-server thing but i cannot connect
[08:27] <wallabee> or is it not possible to connect from the same machine where the server is installed?
[08:27] <sigma> apparle: ah i see, the other sound systems are rather dodgy
[08:27] <apparle> sigma: what do you mean by other sound system??
[08:28] <sigma> apparle: anything besides alsa
[08:29] <ardchoille> apparle: Sorry, I can't help, I don't use sound.
[08:29] <sigma> ardchoille: how can u not use sound?
[08:29] <apparle> sigma: Linux had OSS drivers before ALSA was even developed
[08:29] <ardchoille> sigma: I'm deaf
[08:30] <idiocrash> hey, how do i get all codecs installed?
[08:30] <apparle> idiocrash: for which player
[08:30] <idiocrash> apparle: all of em
[08:31] <idiocrash> apparle: isn't there a single package that does what automatix did?
[08:31] <sigma> ardchoille: ah i see
[08:31] <apparle> idiocrash: Which player do you use kaffiene, MPlayer or VLC
[08:31] <sigma> apparle: then why are they so bad compared to alsa?
[08:32] <apparle> sigma
[08:32] <idiocrash> apparle: don't have a preference. In xubuntu, i was able to run a command that would install all the proprietary codecs. but I dont recall what that package name was
[08:33] <apparle> sigma: funny thing is I don't think they are bad as I hear somthing when I have OSS but don't hear anything when I have ALSA
[08:34] <apparle> idiocrash: you have kubuntu gutsy 7.10 or anything else
[08:34] <idiocrash> apparle: yeah, I'm on gutsy
[08:34] <sigma> apparle: my sound was rather choppy with oss
[08:34] <idiocrash> kubuntu
[08:34] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, ssh -v mycompname
[08:34] <apparle> idiocrash: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:34] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, stops at debug1: Connecting to freedom [127.0.1.1] port 22.
[08:35] <idiocrash> apparle: kool thanks
[08:35] <Inferno> Still having permissions issues, I re-shutdown vista and didnt get any errors during boot except for my bad usb port
[08:35] <apparle> sigma: funny thing is kmix gives an error related to libasound.so which is related to ALSA
[08:36] <sigma> apparle: what soundcard do u have?
[08:36] <apparle> Inferno: Is the drive mounted or ot
[08:36] <apparle> sigma : ATI IXP SB450
[08:37] <apparle> Inferno: Is the drive mounted or not
[08:37] <Inferno> i dont think so, considering i have the option to mount it and theres no green arrow on the HDD icon
[08:37] <sigma> apparle: well theres the problem right there, ati:)
[08:37] <sigma> apparle: i have nvidia, works like a dream
[08:38] <apparle> sigma: I know ATI has problems but I can't afford to change the card
[08:38] <sigma> apparle: is it a onboard?
[08:38] <apparle> Inferno: Right click the drive and see the permission panel
[08:38] <apparle> sigma:yes
[08:39] <sigma> apparle: well then u are stuck with it, or you could get a cheap pci card and disable the onboard?
[08:39] <Inferno> how do i manage that
[08:39] <apparle> anybody here who has used windows as well as linux
[08:40] <apparle> Inferno: Right click and go to properties
[08:40] <Inferno> then
[08:41] <apparle> sigma: I want to show the error i get when I run kmix in konsole. How do I do that?
[08:41] <wathek> hello all
[08:41] <apparle> Inferno: Do you get the permissions tab
[08:41] <wathek> I've a big problem I can't install Kubuntu on my machine !
[08:41] <apparle> wathek: hello
[08:41] <Inferno> no, i just get general and mounting tabs
[08:41] <wathek> first of all I can't boot in a normal graphic mode I shows me initram
[08:42] <wathek> and nothing
[08:42] <apparle> wathek: what error
[08:42] <wathek> apparle: where can I check the error ?
[08:42] <Inferno> wathek: do you have a newer nvidia card?
[08:42] <apparle> genii: are you there
[08:42] <wathek> Inferno: I've an ATI Radeon X300
[08:43] <wallabee> ah one queation is it possible to get dualview (expanded desktop like) with the standard ati driver in kde (ati in xorg)?
[08:43] <Inferno> wathek: i had an issue with my card yesterday and i had to install in text mode then update the vid drivers and it fixed it
[08:43] <wathek> Inferno: how could I install in text mode ?
[08:44] <sigma> apparle: paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:44] <Inferno> wathek: use the alternate install cd and its the 1st option
[08:44] <Inferno> apparle: am i supposed to have a permissions tab?
[08:44] <wathek> Inferno: when I boot on my Kubuntu CD I've start or install Kubuntu and then start or install Kubuntu safe graphic mode
[08:45] <wathek> Inferno: and an other option for the OEM and for testing the cd or booting from hard drive
[08:45] <apparle> wathek: you see the VGA options while booting. set the desired resolution
[08:45] <wathek> yes
[08:46] <Inferno> Anyone have any ideas on why I cant mount and access my Vista HDD and I could yesterday?
[08:47] <apparle> Inferno: If the drive is not mounted then you will not get it . what error in status bar  do you get when you double click it
[08:47] <wathek> gonna try again
[08:47] <wathek> brb
[08:47] <Inferno> "Permissions Denied"
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[08:48] <apparle> Inferno: which drive format ntfs?
[08:49] <apparle> anybody who has used nero as well as k3b
[08:49] <Inferno> not sure
[08:49] <apparle> I get an error when I start Kmix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47664/
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> apparle: ive looked at nero but k3b is pretty sweet
[08:51] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I know it is sweet but I am talking about functions
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> apparle: its next on my to do list but i cant advise from first hand. I can google though :)
[08:52] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: yes what do you wish to do
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> apparle: check this and wind down to OSS emulation (may help) http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#OSS_Emulation_.26_dmix
[08:53] <wallabee> i hate this ssh thing cannt even connect to localhost
[08:54] <wallabee> from same machine where the server is started
[08:54] <WaltzingAlong> wallabee: works here
[08:55] <wallabee> installed server and tried ssh myuser@localhost and it hangs on connecting to 127.0.0.1 and then i get a connection timeout
[08:55] <wallabee> i have no firewall installed
[08:56] <maduser> whats your real ip not localhost
[08:56] <apparle> how to convert videos from one format to other
[08:56] <wallabee> is it not possible to connect from the same machine where the server is installed?
[08:56] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: mencoder transcode ffmpeg and so on
[08:57] <apparle> WaltzingAlong: tell me an encoder which will support all formats
[08:57] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: you tell me one. ffmpeg handles many
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> apparle: what are you trying to convert from - to?
[09:00] <wallabee> no chance with real ip too (port forwarding should be ok also tried on another machine)
[09:01] <wallabee> always get connection timeout
[09:01] <apparle> ActionParsnip: .mpeg to .3gp
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: still trying to get ssh to work?
[09:01] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, yes
[09:02] <WaltzingAlong> wallabee: did you set allowed hosts or denied hosts? was localhost in either list?
[09:02] <sub[t]rnl> is sshd running?
[09:02] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, tried to connect with external ip and portforwarding and with localhost
[09:02] <sub[t]rnl> ps ax|grep sshd
[09:02] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, ahhhh no didnt set these
[09:03] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, 7499 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[09:03] <wallabee>  7621 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep sshd
[09:03] <apparle> WaltzingAlong: I was asking which is better nero or k3b??
[09:03] <sub[t]rnl> you'll need to uncomment ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, then sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart before you can connect from an outside ip
[09:03] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: i prefer k3b on kde
[09:04] <apparle> WaltzingAlong: what does it have better over nero
[09:04] <WaltzingAlong> i prefer foss on foss systems
[09:05] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, still no chance to connect strange thing
[09:06] <wathek> hello again
[09:06] <apparle> wathek: got it?
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: have not used nero on linux but have on ms windows
[09:06] <wathek> apparle: I could boot now in a normal graphic mode
[09:06] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, also tried putty but its the same
[09:07] <wathek> apparle: I could boot now in a normal graphic mode 800x600 32 bits*
[09:07] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: do you have both the openssh-client and openssh-server installed?
[09:07] <wathek> apparle: but still having an other problem I'm trying to partionnate manually my hard drive coz I've some data that I don't wanna lost
[09:07] <wathek> don't wanna loose
[09:07] <wathek> :p
[09:08] <wathek> so when I click on edit partition it does nothing !
[09:08] <apparle> wathek: does the install window close?
[09:08] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, jep both are installed ;)
[09:08] <wathek> apparle: no
[09:08] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[09:08] <wathek> apparle: it still there but nothing happen
[09:08] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: show me sudo netstat -lnp | grep sshd
[09:09] <apparle> wathek: try to restart install
[09:09] <wathek> ok
[09:09] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7647/sshd
[09:10] <sub[t]rnl> have you added any blocking rules to your iptables?
[09:10] <wallabee> if they are not added automatically then no
[09:10] <sub[t]rnl> no, everything is accepted in a default installation
[09:11] <wallabee> ok then no
[09:11] <dave_> Help, when i run adept a "database locked" error comes up and crashes my adept, how can i fix this?
[09:11] <wallabee> the only thing i uncommented is ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
[09:11] <flaccid> !adeptfix | dave_
[09:11] <ubotu> dave_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:11] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: anything in /etc/hosts.deny?
[09:11] <dave_> thankss
[09:12] <apparle> inferno: Is your problem solved
[09:12] <wathek> apparle: nothing happen !
[09:12] <wallabee> dave_, sudo killall adept and try it again
[09:12] <wathek> apparle: I can't edit any of the existant partitions
[09:12] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, no nothing everthing with a # before
[09:13] <llutz> anyone who uses a sony vaio fs-215 and got fn-keys working?
[09:13] <sub[t]rnl> what happens when you just do ssh localhost
[09:13] <apparle> wathek: Run the partitioner from Kmenu directly and see if it works
[09:14] <wathek> ok
[09:14] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, i did ssh -v localhost and it says connectig for a long time and then connection timeout
[09:14] <Inferno> apparle: no
[09:14] <wathek> the QtParted ?
[09:14] <apparle> wathek: yes
[09:14] <wathek> apparle: it works I can see the properties of each partition
[09:15] <apparle> Inferno: Is your drive NTFS or FAT
[09:15] <Inferno> apparle: NTFS
[09:15] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: odd
[09:16] <apparle> wathek: edit the partitions there and then run install.
[09:16] <wallabee> sub[t]rnl, yep so i need a smoke and will check more forums ;) thank you for your help
[09:16] <dave_> flaccid: thanks that worked:)
[09:16] <sub[t]rnl> wallabee: np
[09:16] <mips> I need LVM help
[09:17] <wathek> apparle:  all I can do there is delete the partitions or formatting it
[09:17] <flaccid> cool
[09:17] <apparle> Inferno: Again start vista and shutdown
[09:17] <mips> so no one knows lvm?
[09:17] <Inferno> yea i tried it a couple times, no dice
[09:18] <Inferno> apparle: no dice, do you think this will work http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[09:18] <apparle> wathek: see if rebooting from live CD makes it work
[09:18] <wathek> apparle: huh ?! I'm working on the live D
[09:18] <wathek> CD
[09:19] <apparle> Inferno: I am myself a newbee and using linux only for a month. Still I will see
[09:20] <apparle> Inferno: you have gutsy 7.10??
[09:20] <apparle> wathek: yes reboot the live CD
[09:20] <Inferno> apparle: yes i do
[09:20] <wathek> apparle: I tried that
[09:22] <apparle> Inferno: then that will not work as gutsy has ntfs-3g install by default.
[09:22] <apparle> inferno: It has stopped mounting or it never got mounted
[09:22] <apparle> wathek: Try to change the CD
[09:23] <sourcemaker> Can I configure the calendar to show me the birstdays from kaddressbook.
[09:23] <wathek> apparle: huh !
[09:23] <Inferno> apparle: It never got mounted today, it did yesterday when my linux guru (out of state now) was here
[09:23] <wathek> apparle: I've installed Kubuntu with it on some other machines and it works well I received it from the Ubuntu Community :p
[09:24] <wallabee> another question is it possible to get dualview with the standard ati driver installed?(ati in xorg and dualview like expanded desktop)
[09:25] <apparle> wathek: Still try changing it!! I also requested CD and 1 was damaged out of the 3
[09:26] <wathek> apparle: ok
[09:26] <wathek> but I'd like to try something else before
[09:26] <wathek> apparle: how could i boot in text mode .
[09:26] <wathek> ?
[09:26] <apparle> wathek: the option is for alternate CD only
[09:27] <wathek> apparle: alternate cd ?
[09:28] <flaccid> !alternate
[09:28] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:28] <apparle> wathek: ship it does not send alternate CDs. you have to download it
[09:28] <wathek> ok
[09:28] <wathek> gonna download it
[09:29] <wathek> :)
[09:29] <wathek> rebooting :D
[09:29] <wathek> thanx a lot apparle ;)
[09:30] <Inferno> apparle: any ideas?
[09:37] <ardchoille> !ati | maduser
[09:37] <ubotu> maduser: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <TheFishy> !ati
[09:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:49] <TheFishy> !ati | maduser
[09:49] <ubotu> maduser: please see above
[09:49] <apparle> inferno: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628843 see this link
[09:52] <ardchoille> hi bazhang
[09:52] <elisiano> hi everyone
[09:52] <ardchoille> hi elisiano
[09:52] <bazhang> hi ardchoille!
[09:53] <apparle> hi bazhang
[09:53] <elisiano> ardchoille: how do u set your hostname like that?
[09:53] <bazhang> hi apparle!
[09:53] <apparle> how to cange the resolution of login screen(ATI)
[09:56] <sub[t]rnl> in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the login screen will use the first resolution available. Edit the "modes" line and put the desired one first
[09:56] <apparle> Inferno: did you try the link
[09:56] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I don't have any modes line
[09:57] <sub[t]rnl> backup your xorg.conf, and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359310 apparle a bit here as well
[10:05] <utnubuk> save on bandwidth :)
[10:05] <ubuntu_> hi, i just installed 7.10 on my computer, the install went good, no problems, it told me to restart to use the instalation, so i restarted and as its going through the grub it says "error:22 no such partition" what does this mean and how can i fix it?
[10:05] <utnubuk> shit wrong chat sry
[10:06] <ciacon_> hi folks... I have installed Kubuntu on my hdd, and was wondering how I can best make a complete backup of my hdd.... is "dd" the way to go?? can I tip the file on the fly?? is my mbr also included??
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: you could create a tar of it to another drive
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: or indeed you can dd it
[10:07] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378322
[10:07] <apparle> Is there a better archive manger than ARK
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> apparle: i find ark to be fine. apparle how do you define "better"?
[10:08] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I was planning to move over to gentoo... my hdd has a 50gb / and a 450gb /home partition and a 2gb swap... I would only need to backup the root fs (plus the boot-sectors....)
[10:08] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I want to open passworded .rar archives.
[10:09] <Inferno> apparle: bad link man
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !unrar | apparle
[10:09] <ubotu> apparle: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:10] <Inferno> apparle
[10:10] <Inferno> apparle: nvm i got it
[10:11] <bazhang> ubuntu_: is this a dual boot with windows?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: I'm not sure about the boot sectors but you could write a new one
[10:11] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: how would that be done?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: id use dd but i'm not massively conversant with it
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: you can run the grub / lilo command and it will write it :)
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: if you get gentoo going you will have written one so you can just repeat the process :D
[10:13] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I have the unrar-free as well as the unrar package and i am able to open RAR archives but I am unable to open passworded ones
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> apparle: unrar (rar file here)
[10:14] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to bridge 2 network cards so that anyone on network 1 can talk to anyone on network 2 through the bridge.. one network is DHCP, the other is static.. anyone know any guides or point me in a general direction?
[10:14] <apparle> ActionParsnip: any gui tool
[10:14] <Inferno> whats the command to edit fstab?  "gedit" command not found
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> pico is good
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> or nano
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> or kate
[10:15] <Inferno> kate is what i was looking for... brainfart
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> apparle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20380
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: you might need to go unrar -e [rarname]
[10:16] <Stevethepirate> Inferno: no need for such language
[10:16] <utnubuk> you can't say the word fart in here?
[10:17] <Inferno> sorry. i get all worked up and i get a potty mouth
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> utnubuk: its a family channel :P
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> I'd say it was fairly mild
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> Lol.
[10:17] <sub[t]rnl> a family channel yeah, not a shrine
[10:17] <Inferno> im assuiming there was a hint of sarcasm
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> So, WRT to my question?
[10:18] <milestone> hi all
[10:18] <apparle> Ok forget about unrar. I will use zip
[10:18] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I was brought up to know that one should never change a running system... I have the weird feeling though, that one of the 2 cpus is hardly up to anything --> http://pastebin.ca/810843
[10:18] <utnubuk> is there a program that will allow me to 'mask' my windows, so that if i'm watching a video in firefox i just see the video and not the browser?
[10:18] <milestone> will kde4 make it into gutsy as a backport once it is done?
[10:18] <utnubuk> cuz that would be awesome
[10:18] <ardchoille> milestone: I heard it will, yes
[10:18] <Stevethepirate> milestone: yeah.
[10:19] <milestone> cool
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: yeah no kidding
[10:19] <milestone> sometimes my window contents are not drawn when using compiz-fusion with kde
[10:19] <milestone> is compiz-fusion still somewhat unstable?
[10:20] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: but I really am right in my asumption, that cpu1 is up to naff all...
[10:20] <Stevethepirate> I need a way to bridge 2 network cards so that anyone on network 1 can talk to anyone on network 2 through the bridge.. one network is DHCP, the other is static.. anyone know any guides or point me in a general direction?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: i'd say that was the case
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: i'll see what i can find
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: whats your output from uname -a
[10:23] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: Linux hurricane 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: yeah i just read about smp stuff
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-168561.html
[10:27] <bucket> Hello
[10:28] <bazhang> hi bucket
[10:29] <bucket> Hey Bazhang
[10:29] <Inferno> apparle: thanks a ton man, editing the fstab worked.
[10:31] <Brujah> how can I get my old search function back? strigi is not doing what I want
[10:32] <Inferno> i cant seem to get a list of folders for my Documents and Settings folder. Whats the deal?
[10:33] <Inferno> Issue solved
[10:34] <apparle> Inferno: Solution to all problems can be found on google. I got it for you from google
[10:34] <Inferno> apparle: your google skills are stronger than mine then
[10:35] <ubuntu_> hwo can i find out the "name" of my drive (hda1 sda1, etc)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ubotu: fdisk -l
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk -l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Inferno> anyone here use Maya on linux?
[10:35] <apparle> Inferno: I searched "ubuntu ntfs permission denied" and got the 2nd link
[10:36] <apparle> ubuntu_: Go to /media and right click on the drive> Properties> see the mount point
[10:37] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip: i ran that and it said sdb2, but in the grub isnt it usually somthing like hda1,1? it has a comma than another number
[10:37] <apparle> Inferno: where are you from
[10:37] <ubuntu_> shouldnt it?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> sdb2 is sata2,2 (i think)
[10:37] <apparle> ubuntu_: what are you trying to do
[10:38] <ubuntu_> when i boot up i get a "error:22" in the grub
[10:38] <Inferno> apparle: FL at the moment
[10:38] <ubuntu_> and the article said it could be because the drive name is wrong
[10:38] <bazhang> ubuntu_: problem with your master boot record
[10:38] <apparle> Inferno: what is FL
[10:39] <Inferno> apparle: a state
[10:39] <apparle> ubuntu_: Did your installation fo on well
[10:39] <ubuntu_> install went fine
[10:39] <apparle> ubuntu_: then why tis error. I s this a dual boot
[10:39] <bazhang> ubuntu_: you need to fix the mbr
[10:39] <ubuntu_> no, its not a dual boot
[10:40] <ubuntu_> i have the "super grub disk" and ive had it reinstall the grub but the same thing happens
[10:40] <poison--> morning
[10:41] <maduser> ardchoille?
[10:41] <ubuntu_> so is sdb2,2 correct? because i know when i go to edit the grub on startup it wasnt "sdb2,2"
[10:41] <maduser> are you there?
[10:41] <kleind> exit
[10:41] <bazhang> super grub disk? is that even supported in ubuntu?
[10:42] <ubuntu_> its a live cd
[10:42] <ubuntu_> ive used it on sevral occasions
[10:42] <apparle> ubuntu_: I am looking in google
[10:43] <bazhang> ubuntu_: I believe the super grub disk is the issue
[10:44] <ubuntu_> how?
[10:44] <ubuntu_> i got the error BEFORE using it
[10:44] <ubuntu_> then i just used it to reinstall the grub and i just get the same error
[10:44] <ubuntu_> so it did nothing
[10:45] <apparle> ubuntu_: how did you reinstall GRUB using SGD
[10:45] <ubuntu_> automatic install
[10:46] <apparle> ubuntu_: did you get the window asking you to reboot after ubuntu installation
[10:47] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:47] <bazhang> error 22 is a problem with grub one not finding grub one point five--thus the error
[10:47] <bazhang> mbr is likely borked
[10:47] <ubuntu_> how would i fix that?
[10:48] <angryPenguin> Dear Windows's MISERABLE EXCUSE for an accessibility API, you are Jesus-wanking fuckwankers. Please suck my engorged cock. HRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH. Love, Matthew.
[10:49] <bazhang> !ohmy
[10:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:49] <Stevethepirate> !WTF
[10:49] <angryPenguin> http://www.rjek.com/vmjg59.cgi
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> clear
[10:50] <ubuntu_> bazhang: how can i fix my mbr
[10:50] <apparle> bazang: If the problem is mbr then reinstalling grub would have dne it. I thing it is the Grub config. files
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> ubotu: you need to edit /boot/grub
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> use a liveCD?
[10:51] <apparle> bazhang: If the problem is mbr then reinstalling grub would have dne it. I thing it is the Grub config. files
[10:51] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:51] <ubuntu_> im on a live cd now
[10:51] <apparle> ubuntu_ do you have 2 hard disks
[10:51] <ubuntu_> i do
[10:52] <apparle> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/55749-grub-error-22-a.html Read the whole link and see if it can help
[10:52] <bazhang> live cd should do it ubuntu
[10:52] <ubuntu_> live cd should do what
[10:53] <bazhang> fix mbr
[10:53] <ubuntu_> how
[10:53] <apparle> bazhang: MBR is not a problem
[10:53] <bazhang> apparle: okay, my bad.
[10:54] <apparle> ubuntu_: Switch the primary disk in the bios setup
[10:54] <ubuntu_> apparle: that link talks abotu using windows cds to do somthing
[10:54] <stdin> !grub
[10:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:54] <Stevethepirate> !nat
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <Stevethepirate> !NAT
[10:55] <Stevethepirate> fail.
[10:55] <Stevethepirate> !alg
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <ubuntu_> im not installing after using windows or anything
[10:55] <ubuntu_> i was using an older version of kubuntu
[10:55] <apparle> ubuntu_: First try to swap the Primary hardisk and the BIOS setup. Don't see the link
[10:55] <apparle> ubuntu_: First try to swap the Primary hardisk in the BIOS setup. Don't see the link
[10:55] <ubuntu_> huh?
[10:57] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: the folks @ gentoo told me to 'tar cpjf backup.tbz2 $dirnames'
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?tar
[10:58] <ActionParsnip>  tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/ tar contents of folder foo in foo.tar
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: the j makes it zipped
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: through bzip2
[10:59] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: that would be the idea...
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: sounds like a plan. you could boot to a live cd and do it onthere, see what you get
[11:00] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I was had already thought doing that off a live fs might not be bright ;-)
[11:01] <apparle> ubuntu_: did it work
[11:01] <bazhang> he left
[11:02] <apparle> bazhang: may be he is tryin it
[11:02] <bazhang> apparle: hope so :}
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: sweet, let us know how you go man
[11:03] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: also during complie?? =)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: nice, haha
[11:03] <apparle> Can I change the bootscreen
[11:04] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: 30% of the dvd img is already downloaded...
[11:04] <stdin> !usplash | apparle
[11:04] <ubotu> apparle: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: what connection you got?
[11:05] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: 18000down/1481 up
[11:05] <apparle> stdin: Will this command work ofline
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> ciacon_: awesome
[11:05] <stdin> apparle: yes
[11:05] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: the dvd-img is downloading @ 1600kb/s of their bit-torrent ;-)
[11:06] <Stevethepirate> I'm getting 8meg/sec download off a repo :p
[11:06] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: that's why I always use their torrent as a bittorrent reference
[11:06]  * ActionParsnip has cheapass 2mb line at home but killer connection at work
[11:06] <Stevethepirate> I have 100mbit connection to leg.uct.ac.za :p
[11:07]  * ciacon_ must confess that work=home...
[11:08] <neville__> -_-v
[11:08] <apparle> I have a hopeless connection with transfer rate of 10KBps at college and no connection at home. Anybody has more hopeless connection??
[11:08] <ciacon_> ActionParsnip: I love the gentoo install manual --> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
[11:08] <neville__> 33.6k modem
[11:08] <neville__> <---
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> apparle: beats me :D
[11:08]  * ciacon_ started off with a 14.4 modem back in 1996...
[11:09] <neville__> So don't complain, it makes me feel bad
[11:09] <neville__> =]
[11:09] <ciacon_> =)
[11:09] <apparle> neville__: you are better off than me but I am happy with what I have
[11:10] <apparle>  :D
[11:10] <ciacon_> 1h download time for 3,74gb is fair
[11:10] <neville__> =/
[11:10] <neville__> Try a few months, if I'm lucky, for me
[11:10]  * ciacon_ feels like lending neville__ some rx + tx volume =)
[11:11] <apparle> ciacon_ feels like lending neville__ some rx + tx volume. How did you type this msg
[11:11] <apparle> ciacon_: I don't have connection at all . lend me some
[11:11] <ciacon_> apparle: /me
[11:11] <ubuntu_> i looked back in my grub,, and its set to boot to "hd1,1"
[11:12] <neville__> I have a 266MHz pentium 2 down the back room, that shares my connection, if you'd like to use it =]
[11:12] <ubuntu_> so i tried chaging it to sdb2,2 and i got "error 23: error while parsing number"
[11:12] <apparle> ubuntu_: did you swap the master harddisk
[11:12] <ubuntu_> i dont know what you mean by that
[11:13] <ciacon_> neville__: my gateway/server = 266 mhz p2, 384 mb ram... and a Riva TNT 2 xDD
[11:13] <ubuntu_> swap it with the slave?
[11:13]  * apparle was irritated by GRUB error 15 a moth ago
[11:13] <neville__> Oh
[11:13] <neville__> terrible mismatch
[11:13] <apparle> ubuntu_: yes
[11:13] <ubuntu_> theres nothing on my slave drive
[11:13] <neville__> Mine is 96Mb ram and Geforce 2 Pro Dx
[11:13] <ubuntu_> its free space
[11:13]  * ciacon_ is happy to see that apparle found the "/me" button on his keyboard ;-)
[11:13] <ardchoille> ciacon_: lol
[11:14] <ciacon_> =)
[11:14] <ubuntu_> what would swapping my drives do'
[11:14] <ubuntu_> ?
[11:14]  * apparle has atlast found the three buttons "/" "m" & "e"
[11:15] <ciacon_> hey... I'm in a brillo mood  --  got my music turned up to max, some tea and a fag... what more could one want for a day full of linux-compiling
[11:15] <ciacon_> xD
[11:15] <neville__> Erm
[11:15] <neville__> For there to be no errors in the compiling? =P
[11:15] <apparle> ubuntu_: I was irritated by grub error 15 and reinstall fixed it. Try a reinstall
[11:15] <ubuntu_> already did that
[11:15] <ciacon_> neville__: I want to go through this baby --> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
[11:16] <neville__> Oh
[11:16] <neville__> Only a day full?
[11:16] <ciacon_> neville__: I love this versionless feeling...
[11:17] <neville__> Oh yeah, I was contemplating LFS at one stage
[11:17] <neville__> But until I get faster internet (when hell freezes over) I'm stuffed =]
[11:17] <ciacon_> neville__: I hope so... my old box (p4, 1,8 ghz, 768 ram) needed 28 hours to compile the sys + kde
[11:18] <ciacon_> neville__: I'm dieing to see what a Core2DuoEE @ 2,93 ghz, 2gb ram can do ;-)
[11:18] <neville__> Lol, we should have a race
[11:18] <neville__> And see if my
[11:18] <neville__> 450MHz Pentium 3 can do it in a reasonable amount of time
[11:18] <neville__> =]
[11:19] <Stevethepirate> Anyone here ever ran a dedicated counter strike server off linux?
[11:19] <ubuntu_> can i not do "fdisk -l" and get it to list while im on a live cd?
[11:20] <ciacon_> neville__: I just saw they have a more suitable cd for you => install-x86-minimal-2007.0-r1  	57.2MiB
[11:20] <Stevethepirate> ubuntu_: no. depends on if you've mounted or if the liveCD sees your HDD's
[11:20] <ubuntu_> i mounted it
[11:20] <ubuntu_> i can browse it
[11:21] <ubuntu_> but it lists nothing when i give it that command
[11:21] <neville__> If anything, a DVD version with a whole bunch of included software for the making would be suitable
[11:21] <ubuntu_> oh
[11:21] <ubuntu_> forgot the sudo
[11:21] <ubuntu_> got it now
[11:21] <neville__> Due to convenience, and not putting stress on the bandwidth
[11:22] <ciacon_> neville__: the livedvd = 3,7 gb.... 75% complete ;-)
[11:22] <ubuntu_> this is my main partition on my main drive "/dev/sdb2               1       19366   155557363+  83  Linux" but when i boot up it lists (hd1,1) in grub when i try to boot up
[11:23] <ciacon_> neville__: you could got for the normal live-cd.... that normally does the trick
[11:23] <apparle> ubuntu_:did you see this link
[11:23] <apparle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:23] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:23] <ubuntu_> im not using ubuntu after installing windows
[11:23] <neville__> Heh, it's okay, my friend owes me a favour
[11:23] <neville__> So I'm sure they'd be happy to oblige, and get me 3.7Gb download =]
[11:24] <apparle> ubuntu_: still try the Quick start
[11:24] <apparle> bye everyone
[11:24] <ciacon_> neville__: I have loads of freinds just like you ;-)
[11:25] <neville__> Hahaha, we're a great bunch, aren't we? =P
[11:25] <ciacon_> I know
[11:25] <ciacon_> but I get the best media off you guys
[11:26] <neville__> Lol
[11:26] <ciacon_> my last catch was 8gb psy&goa trade for a dvd-image off bittorrent
[11:27] <neville__> Lol, see? You give a little, you get a little =P
[11:27] <ciacon_> neville__: I'd love to ask you a Q... you are running a low sys with kubuntu, right? do you use cli-mp3-players??
[11:27] <ciacon_> neville__: I'd die for a full collection of "Infected Mushroom" *g*
[11:28] <Inferno> Im having an Issue with Maya2008(linux64) not opening even though its installed and liscenced. Anyone have ideas?
[11:29] <neville__> Videolan does the job fine for me, even though the list takes about an hour to load
[11:29] <neville__> As for this "Infected Mushroom", it doesn't mix with my tastes =]
[11:30] <ciacon_> neville__: I have really found my hots on "mocp"... I love to listen to mp3s while playing full-screen... the unhandy thing is, that most of the mp3 players can't be changed (next track etc...) during fullscreen ==> mocp is brillo there
[11:30] <bazhang> is super grub disk even compatible with ubuntu?
[11:31] <neville__> Where abouts can mocp be acquired?
[11:32] <ciacon_> neville__: apt-get
[11:32] <neville__> Or, did you mean moc?
[11:33] <ciacon_> neville__: yup...
[11:33] <TimS> Where can i get the Americas Army linux installer?
[11:33] <neville__> Lol >.>;
[11:33] <ciacon_> neville__: it's mocp to open it off the command line...
[11:33] <bazhang> http://www.americasarmy.com/
[11:34] <neville__> Hahaha, that's a problem I have too -_-v
[11:34] <ciacon_> neville__: I finished thoose 3,7 gig in 46 minutes...
[11:34] <neville__> =/
[11:34] <neville__> My friend has yet to start =]
[11:35] <ciacon_> neville__: hmm
[11:35] <ciacon_> neville__: do you live out on the sticks??
[11:36] <neville__> I live in Australia, in a lame dingey part of Western Sydney
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> lol.
[11:38] <ciacon_> neville__: sounds like culture.. I live in snowy munich
[11:38] <neville__> I bet it'd be much nicer there than here
[11:38] <neville__> Everything is overpriced
[11:39] <neville__> By the way, mocp is actually very nice
[11:40] <ciacon_> neville__: there is another which is nicer, but I could not quite get it configured to work with alsa.... --> mp3blaster
[11:41] <ciacon_> neville__: http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/#screenshots
[11:42] <TimS> bazhang: I couldnt find the linux download, only widnwos?
[11:44] <TimS> brb
[11:44] <TimS> back, x needed restart.
[11:45] <TimS> I cant find americas army linux download, only windows
[11:46] <Batrace> hi there
[11:47] <TimS> What dependancies do nVidia drivers have?
[11:48] <posingaspopular> hi Batrace
[11:50] <bazhang> http://americasarmy.filefront.com/file/AASF_Direct_Action_v25_Linux_Full_Install;49654 TimS
[11:50] <TimS> Sweet, thanks.
[11:50] <bazhang> no problem
[11:50] <bazhang> hi Batrace
[11:51] <Gular1> I've got a few questions about setting up an encrypted install manually  - anyone got ideas/knowledge?
[11:51] <Batrace> guys I'm trying to help my friend installing Kubuntu
[11:51] <Stevethepirate> well, put him online then.
[11:51] <Stevethepirate> :P
[11:51] <bazhang> haha
[11:51] <HyperNewbie> hello everyone
[11:51] <Inferno> Im still having a problem with MAYA 2008 Not opening up. Anyone got any Ideas? cant find anything on g00gle
[11:51] <posingaspopular> Batrace: ask away. i'll answer if I know.
[11:52] <posingaspopular> Inferno: MAYA is available on linux?!?
[11:52] <bazhang> Gular1: encrytpted--full disk encryption?
[11:52] <Gular1> bazhang: sure
[11:52] <Inferno> posingaspopular: Yes maya is availible on all platforms in 32 and 64 bit versions
[11:52] <HyperNewbie> does anyone know how to play wav files with minimum hassle apt-get wise?
[11:52] <HyperNewbie> (play wav files from console)
[11:53] <posingaspopular> hmmm really. wow. i need to tell my best friend that because he uses windows specifically for MAYA
[11:53] <bazhang> http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11201 Gular1
[11:54] <Gular1> bazhang: the jist is that I'd like to set up a computer that's already got windows on the primary partition, with kubuntu encrypted at the end of the drive... I the installer there's an option to "set up encrypted lvm and use the whoule disk" but I haven't found any info on how one would do it "manually" (thru the partition manager)
[11:54] <Inferno> posingaspopular: I switched to linux because of vista being a resource wh0r3. I want maya to run faster.
[11:54] <bazhang> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-truecrypt-on-ubuntu-edgy/ Gular1
[11:55] <bazhang> Gular1: not sure there--those are the two I know of--sorry :}
[11:55] <Gular1> np
[11:55] <Gular1> thanks anyway
[11:56] <Gular1> guess I'll just give it a go, just making a small boot partition, then adding a lvm that's encrypted and putting / and swap on there, that might work?
[11:56] <TimS> In Konqueror there was a view that allowed you to see what was taiking um how much room grapgicaly, can i get thing on d3phin?
[11:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103835 hypernewbie
[11:57] <bazhang> oops
[11:57] <bazhang> Gular1: back up first :}
[11:58] <Gular1> hehe
[11:58] <Gular1> TimS: sudo apt-get install filelight;filelight
[11:58] <Gular1> ;)
[11:59] <TimS> yeah, Im using that at the moment, its quite nice :P
[11:59] <Gular1> and afaik both that and the spuare-size thingie that I don't remember the name of, integrate in konqueror and dolpihn
[12:00] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567111 Inferno
[12:00] <TimS> Hmm, I couldnt find it in D3phin, I got it in Konqueror
[12:02] <stuffcorpse> hi, is there a way to "undo closed tab" in konqueror?
[12:02] <bazhang> if there is I'd like to know
[12:03] <Gular1> stuffcorpse: in firefox you go ctrl+shift+t  - dunno if that'll work in konq and I'm on a windows box now :/
[12:04] <stuffcorpse> Gular1:ahh yes i can do it in firefox. it turns out in konq that shortcut does a horizontal split
[12:07] <Inferno> bazhang: I saw that but he is talking about maya crashing... mine wont open in the first place
[12:08] <Gular1> Inferno: If you've bought Maya, then your entitled to supplier support for your platfom, no?
[12:09] <Inferno> Gular1: Hypothetically that would be true
[12:10] <Inferno> Gular1: It doesn't exactly apply to my situation
[12:10] <Gular1> do you recieve error messages then?
[12:10] <Inferno> Gular1: No i just get nothing
[12:11] <bazhang> older version of motif doesn't do it? Inferno
[12:12] <Inferno> bazhang: honestly ive never used motif im a little skeptical about it too because idont see anything about maya1k8
[12:13] <bazhang> Inferno: just a shot--sorry that didn't help
[12:14] <Inferno> bazhang: thanks anyway man. that program looks like its for running windows programs on linux, I have a linux version on the program.
[12:14] <bazhang> oh ok
[12:15] <Gular1> Inferno: tried running from a terminal? there should be at least some sort of output?
[12:15] <Gular1> try -h or --help behind, see if there are verbosity switches
[12:15] <Gular1> if there are: turn them on
[12:28] <bentob0x> what's the story with two soundcards and setup one as default for the os?
[12:28] <bentob0x> using alsa
[12:28] <bentob0x> I seem to always loose my settings for some reason
[12:28] <bentob0x> and then I can't redirect the sound from an app to a given sound card
[12:29] <ciacon> neville__: hi there
[12:29] <Inferno> Gular1: dude thats weird. I tried to run it out of console and it wouldnt find the program.... yet i installed the liscence which is the last step of the process of isntalling. Seems like the install didnt finish
[12:33] <Gular1> try to run a "sudo updatedb" and then "locate maya-executable" ?
[12:33] <Gular1> might be just a path that's missing
[12:33] <dani> hi
[12:33] <dani> waht is this????????

[12:35] <bentob0x> why is it so hard to get simple things going right sound wise
[12:35] <bentob0x> it's very frustrating
[12:35] <MasterDark88> Hallo
[12:35] <MasterDark88> Hi
[12:35] <ciacon> MasterDark88: hi
[12:36] <MasterDark88> (-:
[12:36] <neville__> Hi
[12:37] <neville__> I got the sound to work in mp3blaster
[12:37] <neville__> using aoss
[12:38] <Inferno> Gular1: The files all showed up... i dont know whats wrong
[12:40] <Inferno> i might just switch back over to vista until i can fix this so i can get a little work done
[12:40] <Gular1> Inferno: tried cd'ing into the directory and executing the program from there?
[12:42] <Inferno> Gular1: to run a program you just type its name right?
[12:43] <andrewlin> Can anyone help me figure out why NONE of my sound in linux is working?
[12:44] <Gular1> Inferno: in general, you do, but only if the program is located in one of your systems path. if it's in some other, non-standard dir, linux won't "find" the executable
[12:44] <Gular1> but you could always just launch it with the full path
[12:45] <Gular1> ie: for ktorrent it would be: /usr/bin/ktorrent
[12:45] <Inferno> Gular1: so then how do i excecute from a non standard dir after i have cd'ed into it
[12:45] <Gular1> ./programname
[12:46] <Gular1> did that work?
[12:46] <Inferno> alright this is ridiculous
[12:46] <Inferno> the file is clearly in my window but konsole says its not there
[12:48] <Gular1> Inferno: ls -la , then paste the line with your executable
[12:49] <Chousuke> Inferno: are you sure you're typing the filename in correct case?
[12:49] <Chousuke> Inferno: it's case sensitive
[12:49] <Inferno> still gives "No such file or Directory
[12:49] <Inferno> yes, all lowercase.   "maya.bin"
[12:49] <Chousuke> are you in the right directory? :)
[12:49] <Chousuke> type "pwd" in console to find out
[12:50] <Inferno> im in /usr/autodesk/maya2008-x64/bin
[12:50] <Inferno> where i want to be
[12:50] <Chousuke> if you type ./maya<tab>, what happens?
 meaning to press the tab key :P
[12:51] <Inferno> it shows multiple files beginning with maya
[12:51] <Chousuke> then type the correct one
[12:52] <Inferno>  *** Fatal Error: Failed creating directory: /home/matt/maya
[12:52] <Inferno> haha
[12:52] <Gular1> there you go
[12:52] <Chousuke> hmm :P
[12:52] <Gular1> mkdir ~/maya
[12:53] <Gular1> gotta go - good luck.. Chousuke - you'll take it from here, right? ;)
[12:53] <Inferno> i need to cut back on the funny little cigarettes that dont smell like tobacco
[12:53] <Chousuke> Gular1: well, I suppose :P
[12:54] <Gular1> Inferno: nah, those are good for you - without them you'll be without keyboard and screens and whatnot - great way of cooling down ;)
[12:55] <Inferno> haha true
[12:55] <Inferno> why cant i create a maya folder in  /hom
[12:55] <andrewlin> Can anyone tell me how to get my sound working with linux ubuntu?
[12:56] <Gular1> Inferno: your prolly missing some rights in there... "sudo chown matt:matt -R /home/matt/"
[12:56] <Gular1> andrewlin: tried alsaconfig?
[13:00] <Inferno> alright well i got the maya folder in but now i cant make a /usr/tmp folder
[13:03] <andrewlin> gular1: no i havnt, how do i?
[13:03] <Inferno> Chousuke: got any code to do that?
[13:04] <Chousuke> Inferno: sounds like your maya isn't set up at all correctly :|
[13:04] <Chousuke> Inferno: anyway, you need to be root to make a directory in /usr
[13:04] <Chousuke> though why maya wants an /usr/tmp is beyond me.
[13:05] <Inferno> im a complete linux nUb but im trying to learn.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[13:22] <Don_jr333> Would anyone be able to explain to me how to get korean fonts to show properly in a text editor?
 Would anyone be able to explain to me how to get korean fonts to show properly in a text editor? | I think the problem could be the encoding, or the font you use
[13:27] <Kohlrabi> not all fonts have korean characters
[13:28] <Kohlrabi> maybe GNU unifont has the characters, though it uses bitmaps :S
[13:29] <Kohlrabi> Don_jr333: maybe look here, if you are unsure whether your font can display the characters
[13:30] <Kohlrabi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_fonts#List_of_Unicode_fonts
[13:30] <Kohlrabi> though I thought Deva Ju has the needed chars
[13:35] <Don_jr333> Deva ju?  I"ll deffinatly look into that
[13:35] <Don_jr333> I can get korean to whow up in everything accept java IDE's
[13:36] <Kohlrabi> err
[13:36] <Kohlrabi> Deja Vu
[13:36] <Kohlrabi> wtf
[13:36] <Don_jr333> yeah I found it
[13:37] <Don_jr333> how do I get that installed in kubuntu? lol
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> hm, for me it was preinstalled
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> I think
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> not sure, maybe check adept
[13:37] <Don_jr333> ok
[13:37] <Kohlrabi> but the problem can be twofold
[13:37] <Don_jr333> again, I can get the korean text to show up everywerhe but my java IDE
[13:37] <xst> When I go to Administrator Mode in System Settings > Monitor & Display, the Apply and Reset buttons become disabled and it is therefore not possible to apply my modifications? What to do?
[13:37] <Don_jr333> for some reason I can't find an ide that supports euckr encoding yet
[13:38] <Kohlrabi> either the editor can't display the encoding (which I highly doubt), or the font can't show the characters
[13:38] <arko> hi
[13:38] <Kohlrabi> Don_jr333: so, that means there is actually no IDE which supports korean characters?
[13:38] <Don_jr333> I know there is, I just can't find one yet
[13:38] <Don_jr333> and for that matter
[13:39] <Don_jr333> eclipse works fine on my windows box, but I cant' get it to work ehre
[13:39] <Kohlrabi> I never coded Java on Linux, sorry
[13:39] <martijn81> how do i get konversation the default for following irc:// links?
[13:40] <arko> Is there a program like Ubuntu-Synaptic for Kubuntu?
[13:40] <posingaspopular> arko: yes
[13:40] <posingaspopular> add/remove programs should do it
[13:41] <posingaspopular> martijn81: what do you mean?
[13:41] <emilsedgh> !adept | posingaspopular
[13:41] <ubotu> posingaspopular: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[13:41] <arko> posingaspopular: thanx
[13:42] <posingaspopular> ah of course emilsedgh. silly me.
[13:42] <emilsedgh> np
[13:43] <martijn81> posingaspopular: in konqueror you sometimes have these links where you can open an irc server and channel in one go with.
[13:43] <martijn81> posingaspopular: in web pages
[13:43] <posingaspopular> you mean, you can join the irc chan by clicking #kubuntu
[13:44] <posingaspopular> or w/e the chan name
[13:45] <posingaspopular> that should be in setting-> configure konversation, but if never seen that...
[13:45] <martijn81> posingaspopular: yeah, but then in konqueror@html
[13:45] <posingaspopular> settings-> configure shortcuts  maybe
[13:46] <martijn81> posingaspopular: such link for example irc://irc.mytorrent.tv/xxx-devil
[13:46] <posingaspopular> i dont know honestly
[13:47] <martijn81> thanks anyways
[13:49] <RaveBeat> Does anyone know if I can make Konqueror save the icon arrangement (like it does on the desktop)? I.e. make icons stay in the position where I drag them, even after closing konqueror.
[13:50] <martijn81> RaveBeat: no but there are profiles in place for how files can be listed
[13:50] <RaveBeat> I'm guessing that doesn't include a profile that makes them stay where I put them? :)
[13:51] <martijn81> RaveBeat: not that i  no of, unfortunately
[13:51] <RaveBeat> :(
[13:56] <Barbadillo> hi all, i think my kde is broken
[13:57] <Stevethepirate> Your bases are belong to KDE?
[13:57] <Barbadillo> for example, in kopete, when i try opening a chat with someone, the cpe goes 100% and i have to killall kopete
[13:58] <Barbadillo> Stevethepirate: what please?
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> No clue.
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> Its an IRC joke.
[14:00] <Barbadillo> even in kmail, when i try to write a new email, cpu goes 100% but after a while it opens a new mail to write
[14:01] <Barbadillo> i can't use no more kopete!!! help me!!!
[14:01] <posingaspopular> Barbadillo: try uninstalling and reinstalling
[14:01] <posingaspopular> see if that changes anything
[14:02] <Barbadillo> don't like that, i lose al my history
[14:02] <Barbadillo> all
[14:02] <posingaspopular> you can back up your files
[14:03] <Barbadillo> where are my files? in ~/.kde?
[14:03] <posingaspopular> usr/share/apps
[14:06] <arko> How do I abilitate compiz to start during boot?
[14:06] <Tm_T> !autostart
[14:06] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[14:07] <jembouge> hi there
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> !sessions
[14:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> !session
[14:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> fail.
[14:08] <jembouge> anyone can tell me why I can't get full privileges in the settings panel? I mean it doesn't even ask for the admin password when I click the admin mode button...
[14:08] <emilsedgh> jembouge: it doesnt ask password?
[14:08] <jembouge> no
[14:09] <namtaru> good day ;)
[14:09] <jembouge> I tell you the whle story :
[14:09] <jembouge> I go change something
[14:09] <jembouge> it asks for the password and everything goes fine
[14:09] <emilsedgh> jembouge: try to run this: killall kdesud and try again.this happens to me sometimes and its the fix for me
[14:09] <jembouge> then I quit
[14:09] <namtaru> i'm having trouble with my touchpad after suspend.. it doesn't work anymore.
[14:09] <jembouge> decide to come back
[14:09] <jembouge> and it doesn't ask anymore, though I need to.
[14:10] <arko> where is kcontrol-autostart?
[14:10] <emilsedgh> jembouge: run killall kdesud once please
[14:10] <jembouge> emilsedgh: ok trying
[14:10] <emilsedgh> arko: what do you mean that where is it? install it from adept manager
[14:11] <arko> emilsedgh: i have installed... but I can't find it
[14:11] <arko> just found
[14:11] <arko> thanx
[14:11] <jembouge> it says that no processes have been killed
[14:12] <jembouge> emilsedgh: it says that no processes have been killed
[14:12] <emilsedgh> arko: system settings i think
[14:12] <emilsedgh> jembouge: dunno then, sorry
[14:12] <emilsedgh> jembouge: restart X, it should be solved then
[14:12] <emilsedgh> jembouge: alt+ctrl+backspace
[14:13] <jembouge> yeah, that's what I do so far to get it to work, reboot it all... not just X
[14:13] <jembouge> thanks anyway
[14:20] <stanislav> помогите с Kubuntu еле вышел в интерне но что то не работает в браузеру
[14:22] <posingaspopular> is that russian?
[14:23] <MishaJackson> i am russia
[14:23] <MishaJackson> =)
[14:41] <freepenguin> hello
[14:47]  * genii sips
[14:54] <Eicca> in 1280x1024 the 1280 is the x right?
[14:54] <Thylio> How do i watch on dubble screen?
[14:55] <Don_jr333> is there a gui for accessing mysql that works for linux?
[14:55] <victoram> Brazil's someone?
[14:56] <genii> !info phpmyadmin | Don_jr333
[14:56] <ubotu> don_jr333: phpmyadmin: Administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.10.3-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 2711 kB, installed size 9744 kB
[14:56] <victoram> hi
[14:57] <Don_jr333> Thanks, I need to run mysql on my own box and don't know how to do it without navicat or something similar on my windows box
[14:57] <Don_jr333> not sure how to work mysql without a graphic front end...lol
[14:57] <victoram> hi
[14:57] <Don_jr333> will the phpmyadmin work for connecting locally?
[14:58] <victoram> hi
[14:58] <victoram> k
[14:58] <victoram> sometime?
[14:59] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i do this "3. install the theme in KDE Control Center -> System Administration -> kdmtheme"? cant seem to find that
[15:01] <genii> Don_jr333: Yes, it will use apache webserver and then you just point browser at localhost or 127.0.0.1
[15:01] <Eicca> nikita: from finland?
[15:01] <Eicca> in 1280x1024 the 1280 is the x right?
[15:02] <nikita> Eicca: no, from belarus..
[15:02] <Don_jr333> genii okay, I have the server version of ubuntu installed with the KDE desktop on it.  So apache and mysql are already here.  I"ll do some goofin and see what happens
[15:02] <Don_jr333> thanks for the advice
[15:03] <Don_jr333> how do I set/change the root pass for mysql? lol
[15:04] <Dragnslcr> Eicca- yes, resolution is normally written as horizontal x vertical
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  : )
[15:07] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install a kdmtheme
[15:08] <posingaspopular> !theme
[15:08] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:09] <posingaspopular> !changetheme | Jay-Oh-En
[15:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:09] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: that doesnt really help me cause i know where to find them i just dont know how to install them
[15:10] <posingaspopular> !changethemes
[15:10] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[15:10] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[15:10] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: that should do it ;p
[15:11] <posingaspopular> okay i chaned my vlc theme to 'wxwidgets' and now i cant find it anywhere
[15:11] <posingaspopular> help?
[15:14] <posingaspopular> sound works, i can see it running in htop
[15:14] <posingaspopular> just not the gui
[15:14] <Thylio90> how do i cange resolution in terminal?  Can i reset X to defoult whith a command in terminal?
[15:14] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: ok now once i install kdmtheme package i type "kcontrol" then it comes up i then go to system admin...blah and i press administration mode on kdm theme manager and it goes back to the front page of kcontrol it keeps doing it
[15:15] <BluesKaj> !resolution | Thylio90
[15:15] <ubotu> Thylio90: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:16] <Thylio90> BluesKaj: If i restart x, will it still be with the same resolution? or will it go to defualt?
[15:17] <Jay-Oh-En> Thylio90: go to the link he gave you
[15:17] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: oh i dont know, i just know the command to link you
[15:17] <Jay-Oh-En> oh :[
[15:17] <Jay-Oh-En> :(
[15:17] <posingaspopular> yea sorry
[15:18] <posingaspopular> i know there are some people in #ubuntu-offtopic who change their themes all the time but they are all in bed by now
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Thylio90, the default resolution depends on your graphics card & monitor drivers. The best way to change it from scratch is to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the terminal and choose the vesa driver until you have the proper drivers installed
[15:19] <pastor> como hago para ir al kubuntu español?
[15:19] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i change sudo password
[15:19] <Jay-Oh-En> is the command pw sudo?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> !sudo
[15:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:20] <Thylio90> BluesKay: Okay, i'll do that. Fucked up  the settings when tried to watch a movie on my HDTV-
[15:20] <genii> Work, /away
[15:21] <Jay-Oh-En> Thylio90: shh no bad words
[15:21] <Jay-Oh-En> Thylio90: you'll get banned fromt he channel
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Thylio90,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:22] <posingaspopular> Jay-Oh-En: sudo passwd
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Jay-Oh-En, use the pw that you logon with
[15:22] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: thanks thats the one
[15:22] <Thylio90> ley-oh-en: sorry, thanks ill try that :)
[15:23] <posingaspopular> anyone know how I can get the vlc gui back after trying to use the wxwidgets interface? i think i turned my gui off somehow, in kubuntu gutsy. it runs fine in terms of sound and i see it in htop
[15:23] <Thylio90> BluesKay: Okay, i'll do that.
[15:23] <Jay-Oh-En> posingaspopular: that might have been the problem with kcontrol
[15:24] <Don_jr333> I searched for apache in adept and can't find anything....am I lookin for the wrong ting?
[15:24] <Downix> Don_jr333: look for httpd or apache2 I'd suggest
[15:25] <poison--> hi guys
[15:25] <poison--> is it possible to make or simulate a raid with a mobo without raid support
[15:25] <Downix> poison--: yes, but your performance will suffer
[15:26] <Inferno> I need to make a folder in /usr/ but im getting permissions issues. I figured i needed to be root so i logged out and tried to log in as root but it isnt allowed
[15:26] <poison--> Downix, how can i do it
[15:26] <Don_jr333> what's the console command to search using apt?
[15:26] <Downix> poison--: Can't tell you anymore.  Tried it ages ago, the machine ran so slowly so as to be unusable.
[15:26] <Don_jr333> apt-search sint' working, or do I have to sudo?
[15:26] <poison--> ehehehhe
[15:27] <poison--> mkay, ty anyway
[15:27] <Inferno> anyone know what i need to do?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> Don_jr333, apt-cache search
[15:28] <Downix> poison--: What RAID did you want?
[15:28] <Don_jr333> thanks BluesKaj
[15:28] <poison--> im mounting a rig with two 250GB disks on a damn Intel D31PR
[15:28] <poison--> no raid support
[15:28] <Don_jr333> okay, so apt search shows apache, adept search doesn't....lol
[15:28] <poison--> i want the system drive to be mirrored
[15:29] <Barbadillo> no way, my kopete is dead
[15:29] <Downix> poison--: makes sence
[15:29] <Barbadillo> i can use no more kopete
[15:29] <Barbadillo> i want my kopete back!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:30] <genii> Don_jr333: You said earlier you had a server install, it normally would come standard with apache2 and mysql installed
[15:30] <hydrogen> one exclamation point is more than enough.
[15:31] <Inferno> How do i make a folder in root/usr/    ?
[15:31] <Barbadillo> hydrogen: nothing is enough when u can't use kopete
[15:31] <hydrogen> Barbadillo: zomg u mean u cant im ur friendz?
[15:33] <Barbadillo> yes i can't
[15:33] <Barbadillo> i'm not mother language, so i'm dispensed from using bad abbreviations
[15:34] <Barbadillo> pr the opposite, i don't know
[15:34] <BluesKaj> !it | Barbadillo
[15:34] <ubotu> Barbadillo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:34] <emilsedgh> Inferno: what?
[15:34] <mr_dd> hello
[15:35] <emilsedgh> Inferno: why you want to create a folder in /usr/ ?
[15:35] <mr_dd> i've the following problem with idjc, i cannot add a file to the playlist, someone an idea?
[15:35] <Inferno> emilsedgh - i need to create the directory root/usr/tmp  but when i try to make a new folder it says permission denied. I need to for MAYA2008
[15:36] <emilsedgh> Inferno: 1) the root directory is named '/', so root/user is not right. 2)sudo mkdir /usr/directoryName
[15:37] <Inferno> thx
[15:42] <_Sebulba_> hi guys and gals, am looking for help on a few settings in kubuntu 7.10
[15:44] <_Sebulba_> first, how do I change the dolphin "one click opens something" back to the usual "double click opens it"?
[15:45] <_Sebulba_> i'm sure it was under profiles in konquerer but cant find the same options in dolphin
[15:47] <stdin> _Sebulba_: it's in system settings, under Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse
[15:48] <alessio> hello, what is the irc canal of Ubuntu?? (excuse me for my english)
[15:48] <kalorin> man
[15:48] <BluesKaj> alessio, #ubuntu
[15:48] <stdin> alessio: #ubuntu
[15:48] <_Sebulba_> stdin, thanks so much, got it. I looked there several times and missed that option
[15:48] <alessio> thx!!
[15:48] <emilsedgh> alessio: #ubuntu
[15:48] <kalorin> I really wish that someone would get things down to where you could actaully upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[15:48] <kalorin> this is the second machine that has blown up trying
[15:49] <emilsedgh> alessio: whats your native language? maybe ubuntu has local channel for you
[15:49] <alessio> i' m italian
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !It
[15:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:49] <kalorin> could not install this or that, the upgrade will "continue" but the package may not be in a working state
[15:49] <kalorin> lame
[15:49] <fay_elf> hi i need help on kubuntu gui bluetooth setup
[15:49] <stdin> kalorin: I did it on several machines without a problem, in fact one was dapper > edgy > feisty > gutsy  without a problem
[15:49] <alessio> grazie ubotu!!
[15:49] <emilsedgh> !it | alessio
[15:49] <ubotu> alessio: please see above
[15:49] <_Sebulba_> next, my KDE bugbear, how do I stop the bouncy mini icon appearing to the bottom right of the pointer when a program is loading?
[15:49] <kalorin> this is about the 10th or 15th that are like this error
[15:49]  * genii hands stdin a coffee
[15:50] <kalorin> could not install 'base-files'
[15:50] <kalorin> 'dpkg'
[15:50] <kalorin> you name it
[15:50] <fay_elf> or a command to bind a connection since the pairing is working but the connection keeps breaking up although good signal
[15:50] <kalorin> all kinds of stuff that will obviously result in disaster for me
[15:50]  * stdin connect the coffee to in IV drip
[15:50] <Dragnslcr> Anybody have any experience with Cowon audio players? The reviews I've read online seem to be very positive
[15:51] <kalorin> so I'm burning a cd of 7.10 before it finishes blowing up
[15:51] <kalorin> just so i can actually reinstall
[15:51] <stdin> _Sebulba_: same place "Visual feedback on activation"
[15:52] <kalorin> python
[15:52] <kalorin> adduser
[15:52] <kalorin> passwrd
[15:52] <kalorin> yeah this is going to be "not good"
[15:52] <fay_elf> could someone please help me with binding a bluetooth connection between working adapter and a cell phone anyhow?
[15:52] <_Sebulba_> stdin, do I have to log out and back in for it to kick in?
[15:53] <_Sebulba_> i disabled it, and still get the bouncy icon
[15:53] <stdin> _Sebulba_: probably, I've never bothered to disable it so I'm not sure :p
[15:54] <_Sebulba_> k, I found before it was an "animate" option in the kde settings, which seems to be all changed in kubuntu
[15:54] <_Sebulba_> thats why am here, lost where I used to be ok
[15:54] <emilsedgh> fay_elf: i dunno how to help but my bluetooth works out of the box
[15:54] <emilsedgh> fay_elf: whats your problem?
[15:55] <stdin> _Sebulba_: if that doesn't work, try Appearance & Themes > Launch Feedback  in kcontrol (they should be the same)
[15:55] <fay_elf> emilsedgd yeah mine too but the connection is breaking up without usage of the con and i do not know the device identifier for the kpp dialup
[15:56] <fay_elf> emilsedg i just bought today a prodige 1.2 adapter and it works fine too except..
[15:58] <TimS> How can I chmod a file in /var/www/ so that it has permission to edit and create new files?
[15:58] <TimS> The PHP file is Chmoded to 7777 at the moment
[15:58] <TimS> I want it so the user, mainly me, can make new txt files using it
[15:59] <_Sebulba_> stdn it is in launch feedback, i recognise the setting, the problem now is that the launch feedback button has disappeared in 7.10
[15:59] <fay_elf> damn guess i will just dig the forum
[15:59] <stdin> _Sebulba_: you can still get to in via kcontrol
[15:59] <Dragnslcr> TimS- you'd have to set the permissions on the directory you want to create files in so that the user running the script has write access
[16:00] <TimS> Alright, would that be 7777?
[16:00] <TimS> Yes it would be =]
[16:00] <TimS> Brilliant, thanks
[16:01] <Csigaa> hi
[16:01] <BluesKaj> !hi | Csigaa
[16:01] <ubotu> Csigaa: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:01] <_Sebulba_> stdin, thanks so much, I switched my busy cursor off, and killed that fu#kin bouncy icon
[16:02] <_Sebulba_> will be remembering that one for future
[16:02] <_Sebulba_> its a pet hate I have with kde
[16:04] <Csigaa> how do you think, it is wort upgrading from feisty to gusty?
[16:04] <Csigaa> I have heard of several problems with the kernel and the overall system stability
[16:05] <Csigaa> the latter could be mainly compiz-related which is by default PURGE to me :p
[16:05] <Csigaa> but what about the !compiz bugs?
[16:06] <stdin> kubuntu doesn't come with compiz by default
[16:06] <Csigaa> *huhh* :)
[16:06] <genii> Regular ubuntu does, kubuntu doesn't
[16:07] <Csigaa> and the SLUB/SLAB issue with the kernel modules?
[16:07] <Csigaa> (bt878 100PU/freezing, etc)
[16:07] <Csigaa> *100% CPU
[16:09] <sebuntu> Hey, I'm new to Linux and have been trying to read a brand new floppy disk with no luck. How do I format it and use it? (I'm running Dapper)
[16:10] <Csigaa> sebuntu: man fdformat;man mkdosfs
[16:10] <poison--> Downix, seems G4U will do the job for now
[16:10] <poison--> :D
[16:10] <poison--> cloning the sustem drive will be the way
[16:11] <poison--> system*
[16:11] <webvictim> !compiz
[16:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:12] <Csigaa> ehh but I don't want compiz at all :) Are there any no-compiz-related stability issues?
[16:12] <Csigaa> some say that gusty sucks and they would like to downgrade and so...
[16:13] <Csigaa> this discouraged me from dist-upgrade
[16:13] <Downix> I run Gutsy, but use Kubuntu as I prefer KDE anyways
[16:14] <sebuntu> Thanks Csigaa ^^
[16:15] <fay_elf> can someone direct me with creating a bluetooth connection and dialup phone modem web connection?
[16:15] <Don_jr333> Good grief, I have apache running, I need to restart it, how do I do that?  looking at the apache site, the apachectl command is not found to do it that way
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Csigaa, Gutsy works fine (running 64bit kubuntu), but a clean install is always best, as you prolly know.
[16:16] <Csigaa> okay, thanks :)
[16:17] <Downix> is the SPARC ubuntu running in 64-bit or 32-bit userland?
[16:17] <Csigaa> then the new laptop will get Gusty
[16:17] <Csigaa> (with KDE ofc ;) )
[16:18] <poison--> <Csigaa, not sure if its a compiz issue, but my HD is dying
[16:18] <poison--> 250GB to the garbage
[16:18] <poison--> making a backup atm
[16:18] <poison--> :(
[16:18] <Downix> I saved a HD once I thought was dead
[16:18] <poison--> machine crashed one day messing with compiz and the hd never worked smood again
[16:19] <Downix> sounds like a filesystem issue
[16:19] <Downix> which fs do you run?
[16:19] <poison--> yes, keeps telling me theres tons of inodes damaged
[16:19] <poison--> ext3
[16:19] <Csigaa> poison--: what does SMART say?
[16:20] <Csigaa> can be easily a hw problem
[16:20] <poison--> on boot says nutin
[16:20] <poison--> everything ok
[16:20] <Downix> have you ever forced an fsck?
[16:20] <bazhang> poison--: how much to back up? is it a prohibitive amount?
[16:22] <fay_elf> banging my head against the wall..can someone explain me how to setup/retrieve device identifier for a bluetooth connected phone to use for kppp dialup modem selection???
[16:22] <fay_elf> the connection is working
[16:22] <micman> shivaji?
[16:24] <micman> sivaji?
[16:24] <sivaji> micman who are you ?
[16:25] <ksivaji> micman what
[16:25] <poison--> <bazhang, 60Gbs
[16:25] <poison--> and 140GB of drivers
[16:25] <poison--> for the machines we produce here
[16:25] <micman> open a separate dialog for me
[16:25] <bazhang> wow that is prohibitive.
[16:26] <ksivaji> #offline
[16:26] <poison--> :(
[16:26] <ksivaji> micman click this #offline
[16:26] <poison--> think im gonna backup it all to a 320GB
[16:26] <poison--> :(
[16:26] <fay_elf> or otherways spoken..to create rfcomm device binding for bluetooth, how to retrieve channel number as the forum-stated spdtool is not present?
[16:28] <fay_elf> how do i retrieve the bluetooth adapter+cell phone channel number which is in usage?
[16:29] <Don_jr333> is there a package for mysql server? or ifit's already installed how do I start it and alter the root pass?
[16:30] <fay_elf> great i just glimpsed at the obex push window and it said.. channel 9!!! =)
[16:31] <Don_jr333> okay, loading the server, found that much so far
[16:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> !find mysql
[16:31] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libdbd-mysql-perl, libmysql-java, libmysqlclient15-dev, libmysqlclient15off (and 91 others)
[16:33] <VoksD> I'm on a 100% clean (2 hours old) Kubuntu install, no changes made except I let adept run all the updates it could find.  My build environment is useless, running a simple tarball 'configure' gives me: "error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[16:33] <VoksD> What on earth went wrong?
[16:33] <VoksD> I have the feeling libc6 just didn't finish installing (adept complained about being unable to commit some changes, but didn't specify which or what).
[16:34] <Tm_T> VoksD: you haven't installed anything for compiling, install "build-essential" package?
[16:34] <VoksD> Sec, I'll try.
[16:34] <VoksD> er, yeah, there's that second problem I was wondering about again:  When I do apt-get install something
[16:35] <VoksD> it asks me to insert a CD I don't have..
[16:35] <VoksD> Can't I force it to fetch everything off the mirrors?
[16:35] <Tm_T> VoksD: remove cd from sources.list
[16:35] <Tm_T> !sources | VoksD
[16:35] <ubotu> VoksD: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[16:35] <Tm_T> !compiling
[16:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[16:35] <VoksD> ah
[16:36] <Tm_T> I'm gone, good luck :) ->
[16:37] <_Csigaa> ehh sorry. The Ubuntu IRC == freenode
[16:37] <kalorin> ack
[16:38] <VoksD> Thanks Tm_T ;)
[16:38] <kalorin> upgrade status frozen for over 45 minutes at 44%
[16:38] <kalorin> of installing upgrades
[16:38] <kalorin> so owned
[16:38] <kalorin> going to have to pop in this disk and reinstall aren't I?
[16:39] <VoksD> kalorin: Any idea what it hangs at?
[16:40] <kalorin> says it's preparing libdvbpsi4
[16:40] <VoksD> kalorin: I'm not overly experienced with Ubuntu, but if it's taking forever to download something you can probably tell by running 'tcpdump -qnn' (as root) in a terminal and see if there's any traffic going to/from the mirrors.
[16:40] <kalorin> this is after it's failed to correctly upgrade/update about 25 or more packages that are all the good stuff like dpkg, passwd, add user, files-base, the kernel, some X stuff
[16:40] <kalorin> it's all owned
[16:40] <VoksD> ah
[16:41] <kalorin> no this isn't on the download
[16:41] <kalorin> it's on the install :(
[16:41] <VoksD> Crap, sorry I can't be of help ;)
[16:41] <kalorin> salright, I figured this might happen
[16:41] <kalorin> it happened with my machine at home too, just didn't want to take the time today to format/reinstall at work
[16:41] <VoksD> Had some odd problems with updates myself earlier.  Did a reinstall just this morning, as a matter of fact.
[16:41] <kalorin> lots of stuff going on before the end of the year
[16:41] <kalorin> well I backed up /etc/
[16:42] <kalorin> and I'm going to not let it format /home
[16:42] <kalorin> so most everything should be just magically back when it finishes the install
[16:42] <Csigaa> how can be the lauch feedback and KRFB configuration accessed from "System Settings" (which is not KControl)?
[16:43] <Csigaa> I can't find them not even with the "search" bar
[16:43] <Csigaa> or that dialog intentionally does not include all settings?
[17:04] <interfear> kubuntu is the same as ubuntu except it use's kde right?
[17:05] <bazhang> yes interfear
[17:05]  * [WarMage] smacks interfear
[17:06] <interfear> lol
[17:10] <xaka> hi all! How i can configure installed fonts? I install all possible fonts from repository, but in FireFox its shows so stupid and brutally :( i can't understand why, may be my fonts is broken?
[17:10] <Csigaa> define stupid and brutal :)
[17:11] <Csigaa> (btw don't use that piece of [censored] firefox)
[17:11] <sigma> xaka: did u tell gtk apps to use kde themes?
[17:11] <xaka> sigma: yes
[17:11] <xaka> konquer display all very good, but FF not
[17:11] <sigma> csigaa: theres nothing wrong with firefox
[17:12] <stdin> xaka: firefoz uses its own font settings, Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & Colors
[17:12] <sigma> xaka: what fonts are u using in firefox? i use arial and it works flawlessly
[17:12] <xaka> sigma: and Thunderbird too display all bad if message as HTML
[17:12] <sigma> xaka: your fonts are setup wrong
[17:13] <xaka> sigma: i understand :) but it default settings
[17:13] <xaka> sigma: for example (sorry, pls) when i installed openSuse - all was very very nice
[17:14] <xaka> font settings in openSuse and kubuntu same, but displaying - not. Why
[17:14] <Csigaa> screenshot please...
[17:14] <xaka> ok, wait pls..
[17:14] <Csigaa> can be disabled/wrong/forced antialiasing for example
[17:14] <xaka> i don't use this
[17:15] <kub^> hi my sound suddenly stopped working can i restart the service ?
[17:15] <sigma> oh ya that 2
[17:15] <Csigaa> kub^: feel free ;)
[17:15] <kub^> thanks :D
[17:15] <sigma> yes does anyone have the command
[17:15] <kub^> how can i ? ^^
[17:16] <Csigaa> if artsd is not running, then ALT+F2 and type "artsd"
[17:16] <sigma> google how to restart alsa
[17:16] <uchi> i installed vmplayer but i cant seem to open it now!! does anyone know where i can find the log for that??
[17:16] <Csigaa> alsa can't be restarted...
[17:16] <Csigaa> alsa is THE DRIVER......
[17:16] <uchi> helo
[17:16] <uchi> help
[17:17] <kub^> thanks will try
[17:17] <uchi> it dsnt even report a crash
[17:17] <Csigaa> uchi: try to run it from terminal (xterm or konzole)
[17:17] <Csigaa> it writes some error msg to the output
[17:17] <uchi> k thanks bud
[17:19] <silouck> Riddell: hi
[17:20] <TimS> !americasarmy
[17:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about americasarmy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:22] <silouck> Riddell: hello?
[17:22] <xaka> Csigaa:
[17:22] <xaka> http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot1gp7.png
[17:22] <xaka> http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot2ob3.png
[17:23] <TimS> !mpc
[17:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:23] <xaka> Csigaa: in FF all fonts too large (default settings!!!), in Thunderbird all text too white
[17:24] <Csigaa> xaka: they sould be cyrillic?
[17:24] <Csigaa> well, if the size is the only problem, set it to smaller :)
[17:24] <xaka> yeap, i'm from russia
[17:25] <xaka> i can't set to smaller becaues in another site it will set very very smaller :)
[17:25] <Csigaa> ehh... in firefox should be a "minimal size" setting
[17:26] <Csigaa> in Edit/Preferences/Content panel, next to the default font size setting is an "Advanced" button
[17:26] <Csigaa> there you can set the font-related things more precisely
[17:27] <Csigaa> the minimal size also
[17:27]  * remotechief_311 is listening to Have A Nice Day by Bon Jovi on Have A Nice Day [Amarok]
[17:29] <Csigaa> xaka: you can also set a separate font in "GTK Styles and Fonts" in the Appearance settings
[17:29] <Csigaa> if the default size/type is not convenient
[17:30] <xaka> ok, i'm try it. Say me pls - why i don't see Fonts settings in xorg.conf? where is them? in all other linux distr all font setup by xorg.conf
[17:30] <Csigaa> and the "too white" problem can be solved in the same panel, Colors tab, by unchecking "Apply colors to non-KDE apps"
[17:31] <Csigaa> xorg.conf only sets the path's where the font files are, does'nt it?
[17:32] <Csigaa> I've never seen any "use Arial 16 bold for all apps" or alike settings in xorg.conf
[17:32] <xaka> i can't see this is paths :) i'm about it
[17:32] <xaka> no Fonts section
[17:33] <Csigaa> well... it is an "improvement" ;)
[17:33] <Csigaa> xorg finds it by itself...
[17:33] <Csigaa>  /usr/share/fonts, I suppose
[17:33] <mzuverink_> Is there a fix for amarok unmounting removable media everytime it shuts down?
[17:33] <xaka> "Apply colors to non-KDE apps" already checked but text "too white" :)
[17:33] <Csigaa> but this has nothing to do with the font size setting, believe me :)
[17:34] <Csigaa> ehh... then set up custom GTK colors
[17:34] <Csigaa> of course you can't do it even with GNOME... GTK is frugal.
[17:34] <xaka> arrrghhh :)
[17:35] <Csigaa> but handcrafting gtkrc can help
[17:35] <Csigaa> and I have seen recently a 3rd party "gtk color setter" or similar app
[17:35] <xaka> i'm not love handcrafting
[17:36] <Csigaa> https://launchpad.net/gnome-color-chooser
[17:36] <tatsu> hi, does anyone have a good gudie how to install compiz-fusion (ati) ?
[17:36] <Csigaa> hope doesn't require the full GNOME and mono and mozilla and MSVC++ and ... library set
[17:36] <xaka> :)))))))))
[17:43] <emilsedgh> is there any way to upgrade to gutsy with command line? adept's dist upgrade tool is not working, it just stops and 'installing upgrades' section, tha last output from terminal is 'extracting templates'...
[17:43] <Csigaa> of course :)
[17:44] <Csigaa> edit /etc/apt/sources.list (replace all "feisty" with "gutsy"), then apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:44] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: does it install the new gutsy packages like digikam and strigi or i have to do that manually?
[17:45] <Csigaa> dist-upgrade should
[17:45] <emilsedgh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:45] <Csigaa> have youn edited sources.list?
[17:45] <Csigaa> *-n
[17:45] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: yes
[17:45] <Csigaa> and apt-get update?
[17:45] <emilsedgh> yes
[17:46] <Csigaa> then you have gutsy..............
[17:46] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: yes, i know that, i even installed kernels.but adept's dist-upgrade tool tries to install things that are newly entered in gutsy, i want them...
[17:47] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: and...adept still thinks that there is a new version available :)
[17:47] <Csigaa> AFAIK that does the "normal" apt dist-upgrade
[17:47] <Csigaa> then you have done something wrong
[17:47] <Csigaa> are you sure that the sources.list is correct?
[17:47] <Csigaa> and ALL sources are for gutsy?
[17:48] <emilsedgh> yes! man i have restricted manager, kernel 2.22
[17:48] <emilsedgh> and are all for gutsy, kde 3.5.8
[17:48] <emilsedgh> all packages are upgraded
[17:48] <Csigaa> then adept sucks. :p
[17:48] <Csigaa> I am upgrading right now
[17:48] <emilsedgh> hehe
[17:49] <Csigaa> after reboot we'll see how it works in my computer :D
[17:49] <xaka> Csigaa: can you upload your sources.list pls?
[17:49] <silouck> Riddell: hello?
[17:49] <Csigaa> xaka: http://pastebin.com/m3243cd0e
[17:50] <xaka> too small :)
[17:50] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: i found it, thats do-release-upgrade command
[17:50] <Csigaa> ah f... :p
[17:51] <Csigaa> well this is not debian anyway............
[17:52] <xaka> how rebuild installed packages cache?
[17:52] <Csigaa> emilsedgh: it is an apt parameter, or a separate command?
[17:53] <Csigaa> xaka: dpkg should do it before every package install
[17:53] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: seperate command
[17:53] <SpoZen> whats the name of app that creates a bi graphical image of a harddrive?
[17:53] <Riddell> fsview?
[17:54] <hydrogen> filelight
[17:54] <hydrogen> kind of
[17:54] <Csigaa> emil: thx :)
[17:54] <hydrogen> filelight++
[17:54] <SpoZen> fsview doesnt exist in the repos but file light will do fine thx
[17:55]  * hydrogen is still waiting for someone to explain what a "Tutorials Day week" is
[17:55] <Downix> is there any utility to show what is eating up RAM?
[17:55] <Csigaa> top
[17:56] <stdin> hydrogen: what does it sound like it is?
[17:56] <hydrogen> Not sure.. I've never heard of a day week before
[17:56] <Csigaa> or the KDE thing which pops up for CRTL+ESC
[17:56] <SpoZen> htop
[17:56] <stdin> hydrogen: sounds like a typo to me ;)
[17:56] <Downix> a ha, tyvm
[17:57] <hydrogen> :)
[17:57] <Downix> a ha, got it
[17:57] <Downix> explorer.exe was eating up 2GB of RAM
[17:57] <stdin> just poke someone after thursday to remove it from the topic
[17:57] <Csigaa> Downix: lol :D
[17:57] <SpoZen> filelight doesnt show whats takin up the most space :(
[17:57] <Csigaa> SpoZen: 'du -hs' ?
[17:58] <sam64> how does xsnow work? I tried turning it on with run, but nothing happened.
[17:58] <Downix> Csigaa:  .NET app went loco
[17:58] <Downix> I killed it, but didn't think of checking for explorer
[17:58] <Csigaa> sam64: afaik it draws on the root window... yes, it is that ugly "wallpaper" what the desktop overlaps.
[17:59] <SpoZen> ah you had to search the hard drive first :p
[18:00] <sam64> Csigaa: is that a lower layer than kdesktop, or does it matter?
[18:00] <Csigaa> yes, it is the "root" layer... mostly is not visible
[18:00] <SpoZen> omg xsession-errors is takiing up 15gb!!
[18:01] <Csigaa> SpoZen: wrong filesize?
[18:01] <Csigaa> or debug libs? :D
[18:01] <hydrogen> yea
[18:01] <hydrogen> that file gets big sometimes
[18:01] <bazzieb> how do i run a check disk on a stiffy??
[18:01] <sam64> Csigaa: do I need to turn off kdesktop?
[18:01] <hydrogen> I tend to symlink it to /dev/null
[18:02] <SpoZen> so it it safe to delete it?
[18:02] <hydrogen> yes
[18:02] <Csigaa> sam64: better tell XSnow not to use the root window
[18:02] <hydrogen> my .strigi was taking up 20 gigs the other day :/
[18:03] <hydrogen> Iw asn't that happy
[18:03] <Csigaa> sam64: ...or google for "ksnow" or similar... I suppose it exists :)
[18:04] <sam64> Csigaa: that makes sence.. Ill give that a try
[18:13] <hydrogen> I've been getting WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! every time I try to install a package
[18:13] <hydrogen> wuts up with that?
[18:13] <Csigaa> you have not set up apt-key correctly
[18:13] <Csigaa> google for the error and you'll find a howto
[18:13] <Csigaa> it is ~2 commands
[18:14] <hydrogen> but
[18:14] <hydrogen> that doesn't answer why it happened
[18:15] <Csigaa> well, I hardly believe that your ISP or government or any conspiracy is alternating your packages while they're travelling over the net :)
[18:15] <hydrogen> me either
[18:43] <sigma_kubuntu> has anyone used synce with wm5 successfuly here?
[18:49] <alesan> any idea how I can compile in 32bit-mode a program while I am working on kubuntu64?
[18:49] <sigma_kubuntu> jpatrick: have u ever used synce before?
[18:49] <Downix> still, does anyone know if Kubuntu-SPARC has a 32 or 64-bit userland?
[18:49] <Csigaa> alesan: google for "cross compiling"
[18:50] <Csigaa> Downix: "file" a binary
[18:50] <Csigaa> on i386 it displays the arch
[18:50] <jpatrick> sigma_kubuntu: nop..
[18:50] <Downix> Csigaa:  it says "SPARC"
[18:50] <Minataku> There's a Kubuntu for SPARC? :o
[18:51] <Csigaa> Downix: wrong way, sorry "^^
[18:51] <Minataku> I'd imagine that if you had a SPARC machine, you were probably advanced enough for some other distro
[18:51] <Minataku> lol
[18:51] <Downix> Minataku: yup, but I happen to like Ubuntu.
[18:51] <TheFuzzball> Hello, I am running Kubuntu Gutsy relatively fresh install on an IBM Thinkpad X30, and when I close my lid and then open it there is just a black screen and I have to force a halt and start again
[18:52] <TheFuzzball> does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:52] <Csigaa> Downix: try Nexenta
[18:52] <Csigaa> Ubuntu with Solaris kernel
[18:52] <Csigaa> more optimized for SPARC
[18:52] <Downix> Csigaa:  Solaris doesn't support the hardware I have in here
[18:53] <Minataku> Downix: What kinda SPARC you have?
[18:53] <Csigaa> Solaris unsupported SPARC hw??? WTF?
[18:53] <Minataku> I've got 6 SPARC machines, myself
[18:53] <Csigaa> the Fu-Si SPARC-s are also Sun certified
[18:53] <Downix> Minataku: Ultra 10, slow but runs.
[18:53] <Minataku> Four SPARCv8, Two SPARCv9
[18:53] <Minataku> Ah
[18:53] <Downix> Csigaa:  There's a Solaris driver for a Catweasel card?  Didn't think I'd ever seen it
[18:54] <Csigaa> does not that come with Solaris?
[18:54] <Downix> Minataku: Also have a v8 machine, SS10
[18:54] <Downix> Csigaa:  no.  It's an add-on card.
[18:54] <Minataku> I've got two SPARCstation 10s (both MP), a SPARCstation 5/170, a SPARCstation LX, an Ultra 5 and an Ultra 2 (Also MP)
[18:54] <Minataku> One SPARCstation 10 has 2x 36MHz SuperSPARC
[18:54] <Downix> Minataku: I can't find an OS for my SS10
[18:54] <Dr_willis> catweasle card. :) heh.. always wanted one.. never really needed one.. :P
[18:54] <Downix> it has a twin HyperSPARC 150 setup
[18:54] <Minataku> The other has 2x 150MHz HyperSPARC
[18:54] <Minataku> Get NetBSD
[18:54] <Downix> Dr_willis: I worked for an Amiga co, needed it
[18:55] <Downix> Looked at NetBSD, never found a floppy distro for it
[18:55] <Dr_willis> Downix,  the fact you worked for an amiga company.. is scary. heh.. Did you actually get paid?
[18:55] <Minataku> A word of warning, if anything fails to run properly on that SPARCstation 10, the PROM may be too old
[18:55] <poison--> sup Dr_willis
[18:55] <Minataku> I had that issue with BOTH of mine
[18:55] <Downix> Dr_willis: http://www.morphos.net  second from the bottom of that list is me last time I checked.
[18:55] <Minataku> The one was too old to support the HyperSPARCs at all, let alone two of them
[18:55] <Minataku> The other was too old to support MP
[18:55] <Minataku> lol
[18:56] <Minataku> Luckily I was able to erase and reprogram the EPROMs at the Uni
[18:56] <Downix> Minataku: Mine's running it fine with oBSD, but oBSD doesn't support both CPU's.  I had an ancient copy of Debian on there once.
[18:56] <Minataku> I worked on homework while they erased
[18:56] <Minataku> Then programming them was fast
[18:56] <Downix> nice
[18:56] <Downix> Csigaa:  It's not the CPU I worry about there, it's my oddball add-ons
[18:56] <Minataku> One's got 2.25, the other has 2.25R
[18:56] <Minataku> lol
[18:57] <TheFuzzball> It's okay I think I solved the problem by uninstalling acpid
[18:57] <Minataku> My Ultra 2 is a beast, too
[18:57] <Minataku> 2x 300MHz UltraSPARC-II
[18:57] <Minataku> 640MB RAM
[18:57] <Downix> My Ultra 10 is slow....
[18:57] <Downix> mostly due to the HD controller
[18:57] <Minataku> U5s and U10s were cheap-ass machines
[18:57] <Downix> need to find an OF compat ATA controller
[18:57] <Minataku> The UltraSPARC-IIi that's in there is a dog, too
[18:58] <Minataku> They were (failed) attempts at entry-level SPARC machines
[18:58] <Downix> *nods*
[18:58] <Minataku> They were seriously cut back, and as a result are really lousy
[18:58] <Downix> No other CPU options for it tho is there?
[18:58] <Minataku> Nope
[18:59] <Eicca> People, I need help! :D
[18:59] <Downix> well, it's a start
[18:59] <Downix> will do for OS porting
[18:59] <Downix> I want to get AROS onto SPARC
[18:59] <Minataku> If there's a letter after the number in roman numerals, it's a cut down version of the proper chip
[18:59] <Eicca> First of all, why when I use Ctrl + X the irssi closes and says "stopped" how am I supposed to change network?
[18:59] <Minataku> That would be cool
[18:59] <Downix> IIi 440Mhz
[19:00] <Downix> Minataku: AROS is pretty sweet
[19:00] <Minataku> Yeah, that little "i" really ruins things
[19:00] <Minataku> Downix: I _LOVE_ the mascot especially
[19:00] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  you may want to go read the irssi user guides they got at the irssi homepage.
[19:00] <Downix> I figure it on 32 and 64-bit SPARC would be nice
[19:00] <Minataku> No big secret that I'm a furry
[19:00] <Minataku> XD
[19:00] <Downix> give new options to the old hardware
[19:01] <Minataku> Yeah, I could use a smaller OS for some of my SPARC machines with limited HDD space
[19:01] <Eicca> dr
[19:01] <Minataku> By virtue that SCSI HDDs are hard to find
[19:01] <Eicca> Dr_willis: you didnt read the message didnt you?
[19:01] <Eicca> Now can someone say how to turn the Ctrl + X shortcut off in the Konsole?
[19:01] <Minataku> Eicca: Last I checked, Ctrl + Z stops a program
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  to change networks with irssi you can use the /server command  - You dident mention the KONSOLE at all.
[19:02] <Minataku> And you can't turn that off without altering the source code to mask out SIGTSTP
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  you may want to use irssi in a normal xterm.
[19:02] <Minataku> Eicca: Next time it says "Stopped", type fg
[19:02] <Minataku> Then hit enter
[19:02] <Minataku> irssi will come back
[19:02] <Eicca> hmm
[19:02] <Eicca> it wont do it again
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Eicca,  there are a lot of conflicting keyboard commands with irssi when used under X and different window managers.  Its designed/setup to be used with the Console.
[19:02] <Eicca> nvm and thanks for help! :D
[19:02] <Dr_willis> I found that using Irssi under 'twin' worked a little better at times.
[19:03] <Minataku> Downix: Feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic so we can chat without getting yelled at
[19:03] <Minataku> lol
[19:03] <Eicca> but I have plenty of questions more, could you help me?
[19:03] <Dr_willis> I am going to work.. If you got Irssi questions.. the irssi web site has OOOODLES of docs/faq/guides... good luck.
[19:03] <Eicca> okay
[19:03] <Eicca> ty
[19:04] <Eicca> the next question is; how can I turn the auto spell checking off in the pidgin?
[19:06] <Eicca> does anyone know?
[19:07] <posingaspopular> Eicca: tools->prefrences
[19:07] <posingaspopular> let me check
[19:08] <posingaspopular> and then tab over to 'conversations' and click the box about "highlight misspelled words"
[19:08] <Eicca> okay thanks
[19:09] <Eicca> posingaspopular: while your at it, could you tell how to turn the icons off the buddy list?
[19:09] <posingaspopular> np hl
[19:09] <posingaspopular> gl*
[19:09] <posingaspopular> hmm you mean the pictures?
[19:09] <Eicca> yea
[19:09] <Eicca> and the green dots could be smaller
[19:10] <posingaspopular> yea one moment while i gurre it out
[19:11] <posingaspopular> erm figure it out*
[19:11] <posingaspopular> tire+babysitting all around me
[19:11] <Eicca> posingaspopular: I found it
[19:12] <posingaspopular> oh did you? where?
[19:12] <posingaspopular> now i want to know
[19:12] <Eicca> posingaspopular: nope, didnt find
[19:12] <Eicca> Buddies - Show menu had something
[19:12] <Eicca> but not that one I'm searching for
[19:15] <posingaspopular> im not seeing those option Eicca. my suggestion is to search for pidgin plugins and try that route.
[19:15] <posingaspopular> im sure someone has a plugin somewhere
[19:16] <Eicca> ok
[19:16] <posingaspopular> http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/PluginPack
[19:16] <acee1235> i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and i have no sound any ideas?
[19:16] <posingaspopular> that should do it right there
[19:16] <posingaspopular> acee1235: did you check alsamixer?
[19:16] <posingaspopular> !alsamixer
[19:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:16] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[19:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:17] <smithw> Hello everyone. I just upgraded kubuntu from feisty to gutsy and can't login on graphical mode. When I try to do that, the screen just keeps the default wallpaper, a cursor and stops.
[19:17] <Csigaa> smithw: rm ~/.kde -rf
[19:17] <Csigaa> all your settings will be lost
[19:18] <Csigaa> if you are familiar with the KDE config scheme, then you can sort the important things (kopete etc) out
[19:18] <andrewlin> Can anyone help me figuring out why my sound isn't working in ubuntu?
[19:18] <smithw> Csigaa, so it's a problem of corrupt settings?
[19:18] <Csigaa> yes
[19:18] <posingaspopular> andrewlin: check alsamixer first
[19:18] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[19:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:19] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: where do i type !alsa? XD, this is only my second day of using linux.
[19:19] <smithw> Csigaa, I'm not exactly familiar, but I think I can figure out. Thank you for the insight.
[19:19] <Csigaa> youre welcome :)
[19:19] <posingaspopular> andrewlin: open up a konsole and type 'alsa' without the quotes
[19:19] <smithw> :)
[19:19] <posingaspopular> kmenu->system
[19:20] <posingaspopular> erm sorry that command is 'alsamixer'
[19:20] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: ok what do you want me to tell you about alsamixer? i see a bunch of controls.
[19:21] <posingaspopular> well looks at the levels
[19:21] <smithw> Csigaa, should "startx" start kde automatically? I just want to know how to test if I corrected it without having to reboot every time.
[19:21] <posingaspopular> and make sure that none of them are low
[19:21] <andrewlin> ubotu: I can't find Sound System in the System folder under K Menu
[19:21] <Csigaa> smithw: xinit -e startkde
[19:22] <smithw> Csigaa, thank you again!
[19:22] <acee1235> alsa is running still no sound
[19:22] <posingaspopular> move between them with the left and right arrows. and up etc
[19:22] <posingaspopular> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:23] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: i turned them all up to high
[19:23] <posingaspopular> andrewlin: alt+f2
[19:23] <posingaspopular> run 'kcontrol'
[19:23] <posingaspopular> and that should get you the soundsystem
[19:24] <posingaspopular> sorry i cant help more i have finals tomorrow
[19:24] <posingaspopular> good luck
[19:24] <andrewlin> posingaspopular: its ok, thnx for help
[19:24] <SGL> Hello. Is there a way to install Xubuntu from the command-line of a working OS?
[19:25] <posingaspopular> SGL: depends on the OS?
[19:25] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop i think
[19:25] <SGL> uhh
[19:25] <Helmholtz> Hey everyone..
[19:25] <SGL> ok
[19:25] <SGL> does that install everything all over?
[19:25] <SGL> It is xubuntu allready
[19:26] <posingaspopular> i *really* love helping people and answering linux/ubuntu questions. unfortunately my final is not about ubuntu/linux and i already paid lots of money for the classes
[19:26] <posingaspopular> bye all
[19:26] <Helmholtz> Please excuse the really noobish question.. but when you install ubuntu with a dvd, why does it require that dvd to install any packages?
[19:27] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: because that dvd contains the packages, you could download those packages from internet too
[19:27] <acee1235> tried instructions still no sound i did do one thing and that was to enable all listed repositories and updated things
[19:27] <acee1235> after that sound=dead
[19:27] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: when you install, just some programs will get installed, many other programs and addons are on the disc
[19:28] <Helmholtz> emilsedgh: Ah.. I'm using Adept package manager to install a package.. shouldn't that download the package from the net?
[19:29] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: look, you have a few software repositories, the physical repositories have more priority, you could disable them by going to Adept->Manage Repositories
[19:29] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: but why you want to downbload when you have the dvd?
[19:30] <Helmholtz> emilsedgh: Because I can find it right now, and it's a pain in the ass for me to redownload the iso :P
[19:30] <emilsedgh> Helmholtz: so disable it
[19:31] <Arvid> when I try to play a song in Amarok i get "device is busy". How can I find the other app who is using my soundcard?
[19:31] <Helmholtz> emilsegh: sweet I see it.. thanks, emilsedgh!
[19:31] <Eicca> is there a way for a newbie with linux like me to create own KDE splash screen easily?
[19:32] <emilsedgh> Eicca: take a look at existing splash screens, yes they are easy to create
[19:32] <acee1235> should i just reinstall linux
[19:33] <acee1235> o get the sound back?
[19:33] <emilsedgh> acee1235: reinstall is never the solution...
[19:33] <smithw> There's a program I want to run when KDE starts. On feisty (which I believe was kde 3.5.6), I just put a symbolic link to the binary of the program on ~/.kde/Autostart. When I upgraded to gutsy, this program made KDE hang on startup. After I removed the link, kde started ok. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make it a .desktop file for it to work now, am I right?
[19:33] <Eicca> emilsedgh: is there a tool to make own splash screen or some file to edit or what? =)
[19:33] <emilsedgh> Eicca: you have to add pictures and edit a text file
[19:34] <emilsedgh> smithw: why you do not save the session?
[19:34] <acee1235> emilsedgh: then what might be?
[19:34] <sourcemaker> how can I seek large sound files in juk?
[19:34] <emilsedgh> acee1235: i dunno, but thats not reinstalling
[19:35] <emilsedgh> Eicca: /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes take a look at this place
[19:35] <emilsedgh> acee1235: whats the problem with sound?
[19:35] <smithw> emilsedgh, I really don't remember now, but a long time ago I had some major problem with kde sessions and disabled it. By "major problem" I mean a major annoyance, not a freeze or something. I wish I could remember what it was...
[19:35] <emilsedgh> smithw: saving session works nice, try it
[19:36] <Eicca> emilsedgh: allright, how do I edit them?
[19:36] <acee1235> anyone a sound expert?
[19:36] <smithw> emilsedgh, is there a way to save a session and not make KDE ask me everytime I log out if I want to save it again? (I believe that was the annoyance)
[19:36] <emilsedgh> Eicca: copy one of them to you home folder, change names and edit them and create a .tar.gz and install from systemSetings->appearance->splash screen
[19:36] <emilsedgh> smithw: it never asked me so...
[19:38] <smithw> emilsedgh, I give it a try. thank you. reboot time now...
[19:38] <Eicca> eicca@eicca-desktop:/usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes$ sudo cp /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/kubuntu/ /home/eicca/
[19:38] <Eicca> cp: omitting directory `/usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/kubuntu/'
[19:38] <Eicca> what is the command to copy that kind of file? =)
[19:38] <emilsedgh> Eicca: give it a -r switch
[19:38] <TheFuzzball> has anyone succesfully built Katapult Fast-Track on Kubuntu?
[19:39] <emilsedgh> Eicca: copy ir src dst
[19:39] <emilsedgh> TheFuzzball: i think i tried it once but it didnt compile, i think, thats was some time ago
[19:40] <TheFuzzball> emilsedgh: yeh, It's not compiling for me
[19:40] <andrewlin> If you are editing a file in Konsole how do you save it from console?
[19:40] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: how are you editing it? vim ?
[19:40] <Eicca> oh it is a directory
[19:40] <Eicca> lol :D
[19:40] <TheFuzzball> but I use Compiz Fusion and I need the transparency support
[19:40] <sigma_kubuntu> why note use kate to edit
[19:40] <andrewlin> emilsedgh: vim?
[19:40] <Eicca> thought it was only a file with no .xx
[19:40] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: how are you editing that file? with what editor?
[19:41] <sigma_kubuntu> vim!
[19:41] <andrewlin> oh, through Konsole, if thats possible?
[19:41] <sigma_kubuntu> ok dat neva worked
[19:41] <andrewlin> emilsedgh: through Konsole, if that's possible
[19:42] <sigma_kubuntu> u hav 2use kate in da kde gui
[19:42] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: if you want to edit a file from konsole, you need to open it by an editor.vim is an example...try vim filename
[19:42] <emilsedgh> !vim | andrewlin
[19:42] <ubotu> andrewlin: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[19:42] <andrewlin> emilsedgh: ok thnx
[19:44] <acee1235> after much tinkering open sound works for system sound and sound test but not for amarok or xine any ideas on a fix?
[19:44] <smithw> Apparently, I was wrong. The problem persists. If I try to login in graphical mode, the login controls just disappears and nothing else happens. The mouse is alive, I can switch to text mode if I want (this is how I got here), but KDE (nor Gnome, I have both installed and tried it as well) doesn't start. If I try, from the console, to start KDE with xinit -e kdestart, then it starts.
[19:44] <sigma_kubuntu> try alsa for sound
[19:44] <acee1235> doesnt work
[19:44] <sourcemaker> is there a known bug in juk with large sound files?I can't seek them
[19:46] <Don_jr333> is the wine in the apt work alright? or should I get it from the web site?
[19:46] <smithw> Does anyone have a clue on what may be happenning?
[19:46] <Eicca> what is the command to cut?
[19:46] <sigma_kubuntu> use wine frm da repo
[19:46] <genii> Don_jr333: getdeb has latest package
[19:46] <emilsedgh> Don_jr333: get it from apt
[19:46] <acee1235> anyone know how to troubleshoot alsa ive followed alot of tutorials to no avail
[19:46] <Eicca> and if im in home, how can I copy a directory from there without writing the /home/username/ ?
[19:47] <Don_jr333> sigma_kubuntu will do
[19:47] <genii> I think also wine page has debs for 7.04 and 7.10
[19:47] <Eicca> what is the command to cut?
[19:47] <Eicca> and if im in home, how can I copy a directory from there without writing the /home/username/ ?
[19:48] <smithw> Eicca, to copy a directory, use cp -R (-R stands for "recursive"). If you are in the same directory as the source of your copy, just write the name of that directory, with no slashed before it.
[19:48] <smithw> *slashes
[19:48] <genii> emilsedgh: ver 0.9.41 from repos , current is 0.9.50 and if you go to #winehq for assistance ,not at 0.9.50 they won't even look at you
[19:48] <Eicca> smithw: okay thanks
[19:49] <emilsedgh> genii: so you should try to find a repository for newer wine packages or compile it
[19:50] <alessio> hello, when i entering in the #kubuntu-it canal, it directing me to #ubuntu-it. What can I do? (i' m italian, excuse for my english)
[19:50] <Eicca> smithw: btw, is there a defragmentation tool for kubuntu?
[19:50] <genii> emilsedgh and Don_jr333 http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb for repo instructions
[19:51] <emilsedgh> genii: thanks.sorry first i tought Don_jr333 wants to get the sources, im not a wine user and i havent much experience with it
[19:51] <Don_jr333> genii how can I remove something I installed with apt?
[19:51] <smithw> Eicca, I'm afraid I can't answer that 100% accuratelly, but I *think* there's not, because the format ubuntu uses to its partitions doesn't need to be defragmentated. But I might be totally mistaken.
[19:51] <genii> Don_jr333: If you did: sudo apt-get install <something>    then do: sudo apt-get remove <something>
[19:52] <Don_jr333> thanks
[19:52] <genii> Don_jr333: Additionally to purge config files from system do: sudo apt-get remove --purge <something>
[19:53] <Don_jr333> genii do the --purge at the same time as remove? or after?
[19:54] <genii> Eicca: You mean to defrag windows drives from in linux? Or if there is a similar tool as windows defrag but in linux for linux filesystem. If second thing, no, linux ext filesystem does not need defragging utility.
[19:54] <RobNyc> hello everyone , anyone here is running kde4 ?
[19:54] <genii> Don_jr333: Same time if you want to flush out it's config files. if you wanted to save the configs don't use the --purge
[19:55] <Tokeiito> good evening
[19:55] <Tokeiito> today i upgreided to 7.10 and now have problems with nvidia drivers
[19:56] <Tokeiito> error message is versions missmatch
[19:56] <Tokeiito> i've tryed all ways i found in forums and still dont have any result. any ideas how to fix that?
[19:57] <genii> Tokeiito: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-kernel-common
[19:58] <Tokeiito> i've already reinstalled it. removed and purged all packages for nvidia.
[19:58] <rmaj> why ubuntu shows me some gayass dialog instead shutting down, when I press shutdown power button - and when to configure it?
[19:59] <ardchoille> rmaj: That's in case you made a mistake and it's a kde thing, not a kubuntu thing. Talk to the kde devs.
[20:00] <rmaj> but where can I find appl to manage these?
[20:02] <Don_jr333> genii the direction for gusy arn't working properly for me on this winehq site
[20:02] <Don_jr333> getting a 404 error on the second wget
[20:03] <Don_jr333> I got it, had a typo
[20:03] <Csigaa> re
[20:03] <Don_jr333> now if I do an apt-get install wine, it'll pull the new one?
[20:05] <Don_jr333> good, it's geting the new one, thank you
[20:10] <kraut> moin
[20:10] <genii> don: You add the repo: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list      then you add the gpg key: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -       then you: sudo apt-get update        then you install wine:   sudo apt-get install wine
[20:11] <Eicca> guys! I got my splash screens just the way I wanted :) thanks for that! I still got alot of questions; do you know any dead pixel fixers for kubuntu? (prefer the one that flashes just one pixel) thanks alot! =)
[20:11] <genii> Don_jr333: Yes, after it should put 0.9.50
[20:11] <Don_jr333> genii I got it, thank you, I had a typo in my command.  I'ts running just fine now! =)
[20:11] <Don_jr333> thanks alot
[20:13] <genii> Don_jr333: Glad to help
[20:16] <Csigaa> emilsedgh: I didn't have upgrade-manager-core installed, so did'nt have do-release-upgrade command
[20:16] <Csigaa> but 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' did the work after dist-upgrade :)
[20:17] <rmaj> how to have power button just shutdown my computer
[20:17] <Csigaa> rmaj: configure the ACPI event
[20:17] <rmaj> Csigaa: how
[20:17] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: try adept_manager --dist-upgrade
[20:17] <Csigaa> take a look at /etc/acpi and you will know ;)
[20:19] <Csigaa> emilsedgh: no change. Seems so that I have all required package installed
[20:19] <emilsedgh> Csigaa: there is a new button on the toolbar, isnt?
[20:19] <Csigaa> I even have an annoying network config applet on my tray
[20:19] <genii> Don_jr333: You can check which version is installed after by: sudo apt-cache policy wine
[20:20] <rmaj> how to have cool 3d desktop? im on nvidia
[20:20] <Don_jr333> genii thanks alot, it also showed durring the install which version it had.  But I appriciate the info
[20:20] <Csigaa> rmaj: install Project Looking Glass (by Sun)
[20:20] <Csigaa> now that is 3D
[20:21] <Csigaa> like an FPS game :D
[20:21] <Csigaa> but if you need useless vomit-triggering effects, you need compiz
[20:21] <rmaj> why kubuntu is so broken>
[20:21] <rmaj> every thing I trie - sucks
[20:21] <Csigaa> have a nice crash ;)
[20:21] <rmaj> try
[20:21] <Csigaa> broken?
[20:22] <rmaj> yes
[20:22] <Csigaa> how?
[20:22] <thorns> Csigaa: Excuse me, I don't think Looking Glass is true 3D, it's 2D looking 3D.
[20:22] <Eicca> how come this wont work? > http://i.servut.us/i/snapshot4.png
[20:22] <rmaj> in example, I want stupid gksudo to ask me for root password, not for user password, how to
[20:23] <ScorpKing> !root | rmaj
[20:23] <ubotu> rmaj: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:23] <Csigaa> thorns: well, you need a real 3D display, not a "flat" CRT or LCD, to have real 3D
[20:23] <Csigaa> but LG is the closest to 3D
[20:23] <rmaj> ScorpKing: I know ubuntu is for noobs, therefore it doesnt have a real root account
[20:23] <rmaj> but I de-noobified ubuntu by simple  sudo passwd root
[20:23] <rmaj> so now I want to be asked the _root_ password, as in other distros
[20:24] <thorns> Csigaa: Oh, you're right. But OpenGL is more promising.
[20:24] <bacli1> hello
[20:24] <rmaj> on denoobifies ubuntu, how to have gksudo asking for root password
[20:25] <Csigaa> rmaj: tried to install Debian intead? :)
[20:25] <Csigaa> de-noobify lol :D
[20:25] <rmaj> Csigaa: debian sucks probably even more
[20:25] <bacli1> can anyone suggest a compositing window manager that isn't Compiz?  something more stable perhaps?
[20:25] <Csigaa> rmaj: oh sorry, then you have to use text installer xD
[20:25] <Csigaa> that is noob
[20:25] <Csigaa> i see xD
[20:25] <rmaj> I had debian for long time, it is grave-old
[20:25] <ScorpKing> rmaj: i don't think anyone will be happy to help with that. most people here try to stick to sudo.
[20:26] <Csigaa> rmaj: then my debian is deviant
[20:26] <thorns> bacli1: Enlightment :D
[20:26] <Csigaa> it has KDE 3.5.8 and 2.6.22 kernel
[20:26] <Csigaa> glibc 2.7
[20:26] <Csigaa> etc
[20:26] <Csigaa> I think I have done something terribly wrong
[20:26] <rmaj> Csigaa: and 1 year old gnome?
[20:26] <Csigaa> gnome sucks, sorry :)
[20:26] <t3ch13> I can't get sound to work on my laptop with Kubuntu Gutsy anybody have any ideas?
[20:26] <sub[t]rnl> gksudo isn't going to ask for a user password, it is asking for the super user password... hence gk"su"peruser-"do"
[20:26] <rmaj> and how horrible old is gnome in debian?
[20:27] <rmaj> sub[t]rnl: it was asking me for user password
[20:27] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- um, that is completely wrong
[20:27] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- sudo requires your user password, not the root password
[20:27] <Csigaa> rmaj: use Mandrake or something
[20:27] <Csigaa> Fedora
[20:27]  * ScorpKing nods..
[20:27] <Csigaa> then you get your not-noob distro with recent hor^H^H^HGNOME
[20:28] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- sudo requiring the root password would completely defeat the purpose of sudo
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> i didn't say root password did i?
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[20:28] <Csigaa> rmaj: and consider looking at the channel name... kubuntu channel... and you are asking about gksu :)
[20:28] <rmaj> Csigaa: in oldbian, the Boost lib is 1 year old, and people need that lib to develop c++ apps
[20:28] <genii> yes
[20:28] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- root is the "super user" in Unix
[20:28]  * genii sudo passwd's sub[t]rnl!
[20:29] <ScorpKing> hi genii! ;)
[20:29] <Csigaa> rmaj: SID?
[20:29] <rmaj> Csigaa: oldbian testing
[20:29] <Dragnslcr> sub[t]rnl- you always use your own user password with sudo
[20:29]  * genii slides ScorpKing a coffee
[20:29] <Csigaa> well, I have used SID for years
[20:29] <Csigaa> everything recent
[20:29] <Csigaa> tooo recent (Xorg 7.3 sucks)
[20:29]  * ScorpKing takes a sip and pass genii some doughnuts..
[20:29] <rmaj> Csigaa: how old is libboost?
[20:30] <Csigaa> I don't know
[20:30] <Csigaa> this box has Kubuntu
[20:30] <rmaj> Csigaa: its over a year old
[20:30] <rmaj> recent version is 2 months
[20:30] <ScorpKing> rmaj: most likely not as old as the kernel
[20:30] <ScorpKing> that was invented in 1991
[20:30] <Csigaa> but if you are such great developer why don't you use su in xterm?
[20:30] <sub[t]rnl> um, my root password is different from my user password
[20:30]  * genii munches
[20:30] <Csigaa> why do you need all the GUI horror?
[20:31] <rmaj> Csigaa: Im not nerd
[20:31] <Csigaa> rmaj: yes. You are an idiot :)
[20:31] <rmaj> GUIs are for idiots?
[20:31] <Csigaa> use MS VC++
[20:31]  * ScorpKing giggles and go away..
[20:31] <rmaj> good thing Csigaa explained that
[20:31] <rmaj> so... entire KUbuntu seems to be for idiots following that brilliant logic
[20:32] <Csigaa> no. But when you are coding in linux, I can't believe you can't use console
[20:32] <Tm_T> rmaj: erm?
[20:32] <Tm_T> Csigaa: behave
[20:32] <Csigaa> sorry.
[20:32] <Csigaa> he was arrogant first :p
[20:32] <rmaj> Tm_T: Csigaa think GUIs are for idiots, and he is always right
[20:32] <Tm_T> !guidelines | Csigaa and rmaj:
[20:32] <ubotu> Csigaa and rmaj:: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:32] <Tm_T> rmaj: he isn't
[20:32] <rmaj> I tink he is, he looks smart
[20:33] <Csigaa> you too :) you de-noobified an Ubuntu, omg
[20:33] <Csigaa> youre great ;)
[20:33] <rmaj> anyway, how to have GUI apps ask me for root passwrod to execute su commands
[20:33] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- you don't
[20:33] <rmaj> Csigaa: something wrong with denoobifing lack of root account?
[20:33] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- that would defeat the purpose of sudo
[20:34] <rmaj> so sudo is defeated on most other distros, that ask for root password?
[20:34] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- if you want to be root, login as root to begin with
[20:34] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- I don't know of any *nix that requires the root password for sudo
[20:34] <misticwarrior> hey
[20:34] <misticwarrior> wazup ?
[20:34] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- FreeBSD certainly doesn't
[20:34] <rmaj> no, I want to be an user, that executes administrator command after authorisin using some password, other then his own password
[20:35] <rmaj> Dragnslcr: debian asked for root passwrod in this situations
[20:35] <ScorpKing> rmaj: if you enable the root account and get rid of sudo you will run into a lot of problems with GUI and so on.
[20:35] <Dragnslcr> rmaj- are you sure it was using sudo? That seems rather suspicious that it would ask for the root password
[20:35] <rmaj> I am in KDE Controll, I click administrative mode and I am asked for user's password, I like to be asked here for root password. How to?
[20:35] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, the whole point of sudo is that you don't need to know the root password
[20:36] <rmaj> Dragnslcr: see above use case
[20:36] <Csigaa> man sudoers
[20:36] <Csigaa> (or visudo)
[20:36] <eroticon> hello
[20:36] <eroticon> anyone around?
[20:36] <Csigaa> or copy /etc/sudoers from "oldbian" to "noobuntu"
[20:36] <misticwarrior> yep
[20:36] <eroticon> when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it does not try to autodetect my video card
[20:36] <eroticon> what could be wrong?
[20:36] <rmaj> Csigaa: if I would be nerd I would use some text mode only distro or cook up LFS.  The goal of ubuntu was to free users from reading tons of mans afair?
[20:37] <Csigaa> rmaj: you are messing with low-level thing
[20:37] <Csigaa> even Windows does not have a GUI for that
[20:37] <Csigaa> you are all looking at it wrong
[20:37] <rmaj> I hoped that Ubuntu would be better then windows
[20:37] <eroticon> help?
[20:37] <rmaj> eroticon: there was agair some option
[20:37] <misticwarrior> I have a little problem. I want to start mplayer in shell mode before kdm or gdm... So It would play without starting x... like starting it in tty1, as well I could stop it when I want... but I don't know where to write my script... I tried in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.h but it does anything..
[20:38] <rmaj> eroticon: to set level of details of questions in (re)configure
[20:38] <eroticon> huh?
[20:38] <rmaj> misticwarrior: asciiart or framebuffer?
[20:38] <eroticon> how can i tell it to autodetect my video card
[20:38] <rmaj> (just curious)
[20:38] <rmaj> eroticon: not sure... ask also #ubuntu
[20:38] <Csigaa> rmaj: do you want to set up something, or do you want to depreciate everything? :)
[20:38] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: put your script in /etc/rc.local
[20:38] <misticwarrior> rmaj: it's just music, not a video ;)
[20:39] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: and then will it start in tty1 ?
[20:39] <rmaj> Csigaa:  I am in KDE Controll, I click administrative mode and I am asked for user's password, I like to be asked here for root password. How to?
[20:39] <Csigaa> rmaj: I have written down.
[20:39] <rmaj> Csigaa: without digging up tons of manuals, some people try to have life
[20:39] <misticwarrior> rmaj: where you speaking about the -caca library ?
[20:39] <Csigaa> If you don't desire to use console, then you can install... ehrm... MacOS?
[20:39] <Csigaa> well, that wont prompt for anything
[20:40] <rmaj> macos looks like designed for retards, even mouse is 1 buttoned
[20:40] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: any commands in that script should start. not sure if you'll have to log in on tty1 first or something
[20:40] <misticwarrior> rmaj: +1 :P
[20:40] <Csigaa> rmaj: if nothing is good for you, then get a life :D
[20:40] <rmaj> Csigaa: but I need at least one good distro
[20:40] <kalorin> I don't know there's a lot of fun stuff that the mac os does that seems pretty reasonable
[20:40] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: in fact I want to have the possibility to stop mplayer... so how to do it when it has start in rc.local ? :P
[20:41] <Csigaa> rmaj: but your definition of "good" is not too realistic ;)
[20:41] <rmaj> kalorin: like making you iBitch by dissallowing to skip commercialls in DVDs
[20:41] <kalorin> I'm running linux mostly because I wouldn't pay that kind of cash for a computer
[20:41] <rmaj> Csigaa: with simple change gksudo would meet my standards of good
[20:41] <kalorin> however I really like their styling and interface stuff
[20:42] <kalorin> how can't you lust after the 30" cinema displays?
[20:42] <Csigaa> rmaj: you don't want to click the second button, but you rebel against one-button mouse ;)
[20:42] <rmaj> btw, some christains on ubuntu kicked me for using the making-love word, how to ask them to lift ban
[20:42] <Csigaa> rmaj: this is pointless
[20:42] <kalorin> rmaj: well, this _IS_ a family show
[20:42] <trpr> rmaj: i think what you are describing is a side-effect of ubuntu's way of dealing with root. ubuntu doesn't have the root acct enabled by default. everything is done through sudo, which explains why you are asked for your user password and not the root password... there shouldn't be a root password. not unless you purposefully added it
[20:43] <rmaj> kalorin: well mac was nice to look at, but not so comfortable
[20:43] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: that's where i keep all my custom scripts. i have no idea how you can do what you're trying though. there are other small cli apps for playing music btw
[20:43] <Csigaa> rmaj: dude, you sure have something else to do, instead of this pointless arguing
[20:43] <rmaj> trpr: yes, I already debnoobified ubuntu by enabling root account as written in wiki; Now I would like to be asked for that password instead users password when users executes admin command
[20:43] <kalorin> 7.10 fresh install didn't seem to know what to do with my quadra video card
[20:43] <mikes1> trpr, Needed for "admin" kcontrol/
[20:43] <kalorin> took a few minutes of picking and trying to find all the various packages to install to get startx to start x
[20:43] <rmaj> Csigaa: I REALLY want to be asked for ROOT passwd instead user's
[20:44] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ok, i'll try then :) thx for tip :)
[20:44] <Csigaa> you even contradict yourself, your "needs"
[20:44] <kalorin> rmaj, that's not sudo
[20:44] <trpr> rmaj: well, if you put it that way, you need to continue to denoobify the tools you have, because they have been configured to work in the system you just broke
[20:44] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: do we say "tip" in english ?
[20:44] <ScorpKing> rmaj: we can't help you with that here. please stop complaining.
[20:44] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:44] <rmaj> trpr: yes, this is my question: how to denoobify ksudo
[20:44] <kalorin> sudo asks for the users password and compares that user account (if they authenticate correctly) against what that user is allowed to do in the sudoer's file
[20:44] <rmaj> ScorpKing: isn't it kubuntu related question?  if not then where to ask
[20:44] <kalorin> that's just how it works
[20:44] <kalorin> type sudo su - if you want to bypass that
[20:45] <stdin> rmaj: kdesu/kdesu work the way sudo does
[20:45] <kalorin> but there's simply no root account password
[20:45] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: not sure. i think tip is correct. and you're welcome. ask in ##linux as well.
[20:45] <stdin> *kdesu/kdesudo
[20:45] <rmaj> kalorin: I thought on other distros it is asking for root password, how to have that on kubuntu
[20:45] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:45] <kalorin> that's su, not sudo
[20:45] <rmaj> kalorin: I have root password
[20:45] <kalorin> you can always type "su -"
[20:45] <Csigaa> rmaj: your incompetence in setting up sudo is NOT the bug of the OS :p
[20:45] <rmaj> kalorin: no, on other distros _sudo_ also asks for root password, the same as su
[20:45] <kalorin> and type the root password and become root
[20:45] <rmaj> omfg
[20:45]  * ScorpKing pulls on his hair..
[20:45] <rmaj> jesus
[20:46] <sigma> how can i check that ports 5678, 5679 and 990 are not blocked by a firewall?
[20:46] <kalorin> rmaj, none of the other distributions that I've used, including debian, ubuntu/kubuntu, redhat and so on
[20:46] <Daisuke_Ido> rmaj: if you have such a stick in your rear about "denoobifying" ubuntu, use another distro that's pre-"denoobified"
[20:46] <ScorpKing> !wtf > rmaj
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> sigma: iptables -L
[20:46] <sigma> also how can i check which usb port my cellpnone is connected to?
[20:46] <sigma> thanks
[20:46] <trpr> rmaj: i have no idea; i don't know what they have done to it to make the whole sudo scenario work. imho it would be easier to start with plain old debian than to take apart ubuntu. you could try recompiling the tool with different options though
[20:46] <kalorin> I'd suggest going out and trying that one that compiles all the packages for you
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> lsusb
[20:46] <kalorin> the name escapes me at the moment
[20:46] <Daisuke_Ido> gentoo
[20:46] <kalorin> yeah gentoo thanks
[20:47] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that would be a much better option than deconstructing a working system and complaining when it no longer works
[20:47] <kalorin> I personally don't care if I get an extra 2% performance out of it
[20:47] <ScorpKing> sigma: dmesg | tail should show when you plug it in. also run sudo wvdialconf to do most of the work for you if you gonna use it as a modem
[20:47] <Eicca> can someone help me with installing hamachi?
[20:47] <Daisuke_Ido> !repeat
[20:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:47] <Csigaa> Eicca: hamachi works out-of-the-box, as far as I know
[20:47] <kalorin> I'll take the generic i386 packages, I'm happy they're solid and run well
[20:47] <Csigaa> well, it has no GUI
[20:48] <Eicca> Csigaa: do you know how to operate it?
[20:48] <roland> Anyone have any tips for copying large (5+ GB) files? I keep getting a "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)"
[20:48] <Csigaa> Eicca: are you familiar with the console environment?
[20:48] <roland> I did a
[20:48] <Eicca> my ./hamachi-init doesnt work
[20:48] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: it says "policy accept" for all the iptable stuff, does that mean that the ports are not blocked?
[20:48] <Eicca> Csigaa: depends on what do you mean by familiar
[20:48] <Csigaa> Eicca: okay then you are :)
[20:48] <roland> ulimit -f 6000000000, but i still get it
[20:48] <Csigaa> Eicca: did you get any errors?
[20:48] <Eicca> not at all
[20:48] <Csigaa> strange...
[20:48] <sub[t]rnl> sigma: in a default installation everything is accepted by your firewall
[20:48] <Eicca> where am I supposed to run the ./hamachi-init?
[20:48] <Csigaa> where it is...
[20:48] <Daisuke_Ido> roland: what are you copying them *to*?
[20:48] <roland> to a external HD
[20:49] <Eicca> Csigaa: where is it then?
[20:49] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: ah i see, well lemme give synce another go
[20:49] <Daisuke_Ido> formatted with what FS?
[20:49] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: heh, good question
[20:49] <Csigaa> Eicca: it is where you have untar'd the archive
[20:49] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: sorry for noob me
[20:49] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries
[20:49] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: I guess you are suggesting I need to format it it to some fs?
[20:49] <Daisuke_Ido> it's likely formatted fat32, which cannot handle files above 4gb at all
[20:49] <Csigaa> Eicca: ./hamachi-init means that the shell should run the "hamachi-init" file in the present directory
[20:50] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: I guess you are right
[20:50] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: I just got it out of the box
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> tep, 90% chance it's fat32 then :)
[20:50] <Csigaa> Eicca: it has to have execute privileges (type: chmod +x hamachi-init)
[20:50]  * ScorpKing agrees with Daisuke_Ido
[20:50] <roland> Daisuke_Ido: thanks! I'll reformat and try again.
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> !format | roland
[20:50] <ubotu> roland: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[20:50] <Daisuke_Ido> qtparted should take care of your problem :)
[20:51] <Daisuke_Ido> !qtparted
[20:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, ubotu: thanks guys!
[20:51] <Eicca> Csigaa: yea I know
[20:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[20:51] <Csigaa> Eicca: then, what's the problem, again :)
[20:51] <Eicca> Csigaa: I was trying to locate it but I forgot the updatedb :D
[20:51] <Csigaa> ehh :)
[20:52] <Eicca> Csigaa: I did this sudo /usr/bin/hamachi-init
[20:52] <kalorin> anyone played with vmware2?
[20:52] <kalorin> server is free and out now
[20:52] <Csigaa> Eicca: and what happened?
[20:52] <Eicca> but the ./hamachi still wont work..?
[20:52] <Eicca> nothing appeared to the screen
[20:53] <Csigaa> Eicca: if hamachi-init was in /usr/bin then hamachi should also
[20:53] <Csigaa> but you won't get any GUI
[20:54] <Csigaa> it is menu or parameter-based (or at least it was when I played with it)
[20:54] <rmaj> sigh
[20:54] <rmaj> apparently sudo is indeed not denoobified also in other distros, so only fix would be to use PAM
[20:55] <Csigaa> rmaj: it was all we said...... :)
[20:55] <Eicca> Csigaa: I wont get anything at all
[20:55] <Eicca> sudo /usr/bin/hamachi wont say anything _at__all_?!
[20:55] <rmaj> so in ubuntu basicly an user can destroy other user account / steall his files / destroy system?  without need to know any speciall password other then his own password?
[20:56] <Csigaa> Eicca: is hamachi running, or listening on any port?
[20:56] <Csigaa> Eicca: I remember that it provides some text UI... it should ask for the network or anything
[20:56] <Eicca> Csigaa: how do I check if its running?
[20:56] <rmaj> where can I set that I want monitor to power down after 20 minutes?
[20:57] <XceII> Will DEVEDE work in jubuntu?
[20:57] <XceII> kubuntu
[20:57] <Csigaa> Eicca: 1. 'ps -A|grep hamachi' 2. 'netstat -tuaep|grep hamachi'
[20:57] <Csigaa> XceII: of course :)
[20:57] <XceII> k..thanks.
[20:57] <Tokeiito> it seems that my problems with nvidia driver are cose i dont have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic. but when i try to install, im getin message: E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic has no installation candidate
[20:57] <Tokeiito> how to solve that problem?
[20:57] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: feisty?
[20:58] <Tokeiito> was feisty, upgreided to 7.10
[20:58] <Csigaa> then gutsy
[20:58] <Tokeiito> after that i have problems with nvidia
[20:58] <Tokeiito> yes - gutsy
[20:58] <Eicca> Csigaa: nope, not running
[20:58] <Eicca> why wont they do a GUI to linux :/
[20:58] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[20:59] <Csigaa> but I think nvidia is in nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx (package)
[20:59] <Csigaa> restricted modules are for WLAN and bluetooth and so (FIXME)
[20:59] <Tokeiito> same error: E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic has no installation candidate
[20:59] <Eicca> Csigaa: ::(:(:((( im getting frustrated
[20:59] <Csigaa> Eicca: I don't know... :S
[20:59] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: you are using the old kernel
[21:00] <Tokeiito> ok. how to chek what kernel i'm on now?
[21:00] <Csigaa> reboot, and press ESC in grub (it asks), then select 2.6.22
[21:00] <rmaj> where can I set that I want monitor to power down after 20 minutes?
[21:00] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: uname -r
[21:00] <ubuntu_> hola
[21:00] <Csigaa> rmaj: go and read something...
[21:00] <Tokeiito> Csigaa: ist new one: 2.6.20-16-generic
[21:00] <Csigaa> or just right-click on the desktop....................
[21:00] <Tokeiito> *its
[21:00] <rmaj> Csigaa: what?
[21:00] <bascule> I am having trouble installing ubuntu to an external drive cause I can't get grub to go on, not a BIOS drive it tells me, any suggestions?
[21:00] <Daisuke_Ido> !coc | Csigaa
[21:00] <ubotu> Csigaa: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[21:01] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: if it's gusty, then you should reboot
[21:01] <Tokeiito> ok. will try.
[21:02] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: I haven't any /etc/rc.local file ?!
[21:02] <Tokeiito> thank you Csigaa, but i think that i'll be back :|
[21:02] <Csigaa> and when you're running the new 2.6.22 kernel, then install the appropriate restricted-modules package
[21:02] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: create it
[21:03] <Csigaa> rmaj: display properties... right-click on Desktop
[21:03] <misticwarrior> Ok I rebooting... :S c ya soon :P
[21:03] <misticwarrior> (I hope)
[21:03] <Csigaa> (in KDE. Gnome- don't ask me sorry)
[21:03] <LimCore> Csigaa: it's empty
[21:03] <Csigaa> LimCore: what is 'it'? :S
[21:04] <LimCore> Configure Display window - it's empty
[21:04] <Csigaa> LimCore: did you get any error message?
[21:04] <LimCore> Csigaa: how to start that form console
[21:05] <Csigaa> LimCore: kcmshell displayconfig
[21:05] <Csigaa> (in Kubuntu ofc)
[21:05] <LimCore> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'displayconfig'.
[21:06] <Csigaa> LimCore: something is wrong with your install and the module is missing
[21:06] <Csigaa> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:06] <Csigaa> this should install any missing component
[21:06] <misticwarrior> Ok it does nothing...
[21:07] <Tokeiito> after all reboot and so on, i'm get the same error: E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic has no installation candidate
[21:07] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: you have 2.6.22 kernel
[21:07] <Tokeiito> yes
[21:07] <Csigaa> Canonical is shipping that.
[21:07] <Csigaa> 2.6.20 modules are no longer present, because it is not feisty anymore
[21:07] <Csigaa> install the version in 'uname -r'
[21:08] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: one sec..
[21:08] <Csigaa> (2.6.22-14-generic, I suppose)
[21:08] <Tokeiito> but when i;m typing in console i'm geting that i'm using 2.6.20-16-generic
[21:08] <Csigaa> ehh
[21:08] <Csigaa> how did you upgrade?
[21:09] <sigma> i don't understand why my synce isn't working, i followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile to the tee, when i connect my device the pc picks it up because it creates a new ip address in network connections but synce refuses to see it, funnily enough if i enable my wireless modem synce picks up the device but obviously cannot sync to it, any help?
[21:09] <LimCore> Csigaa: KDE is broken in this respect
[21:09] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: is 2.6.22 is even installed?
[21:09] <Tokeiito> user Adept Manager
[21:09] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: apt-get install linux-image-generic
[21:09] <Bauldrick> how can i get dvd:rip to see my installed divx6
[21:09] <LimCore> Csigaa: indeed, it wants to pull in 47 modules
[21:09] <Tokeiito> "linux-image-generic is already the newest version."
[21:09] <Csigaa> LimCore: then install :)
[21:10] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: no problem
[21:10] <LimCore> Csigaa: I do, still I think it's a bug that should be reported? I seen it on serveral computers
[21:10] <ryppka> hi
[21:10] <regolo> hello
[21:10] <misticwarrior> hey
[21:10] <ryppka> testing kubuntu and have problem with ntfs usb/sata drive:(
[21:11] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: dpkg --status linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic |grep Status
[21:11] <Csigaa> it should say "install ok installed"
[21:11] <LimCore> Csigaa: hm?
[21:11] <Tokeiito> "Status: install ok installed"
[21:12] <ryppka> it doesn't get mounted due to hal-something rejected uid 1000
[21:12] <Tokeiito> so 2.6.22-14 is newer then 2.6.20 damn.. i'm stupid as.. as chiken
[21:12] <ryppka> kernel status is install ok installed
[21:12] <Csigaa> LimCore: I have a non-fresh install Gutsy. It is upgraded from Feisty and has the module. So I haven't encountered with the bug :(
[21:12] <Tokeiito> thank you Csigaa
[21:12] <vito_> dantonia
[21:12] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: np :)
[21:12] <|bulletxt|> vito_: vito srivi /server irc.azzurra.org
[21:12] <ryppka> no ideas?
[21:13] <Tokeiito> too little sleep in these days :)
[21:13] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: create a link to /etc/rc.local from /etc/rc5.d/S<unused_number>rc_local so it starts at boot. look at the scripts there to see in which order they start and decide what the number should be.
[21:13] <Tokeiito> ok. rebooting.
[21:13] <|bulletxt|> vito_: e poi scrivi /j #ubuntu
[21:14] <limac> hey
[21:14] <stdin> ScorpKing: rc5?
[21:14] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ok but... /etc/rc.local or /etc/init.d/rc.local ? Cause I have a /etc/init.d/rc.local...
[21:14] <limac> I'm new to kde, so can anyone tell me how to get sound on it?
[21:15] <ScorpKing> stdin: is that wrong?
[21:15] <stdin> ScorpKing: default is runlevel 2
[21:15] <ScorpKing> oh ok.
[21:15] <misticwarrior> so rc2... ?
[21:15] <Csigaa> limac: your user should be in the "sound" group. Then you should start KMix and set the volumes LOUD :)
[21:15] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: rc2 yes
[21:15] <Csigaa> (the mixer is set to NULL by default)
[21:15] <misticwarrior> k
[21:16] <limac> what do u mean by sound group?
[21:16] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i have my script in /etc/rc.local but it should still work i think
[21:16] <misticwarrior> i never know the order... ln -n /etc/rc.local /etc/rc2 etc or not ?
[21:16] <Csigaa> limac: user management in System Settings
[21:16] <limac> Csigaa: How can I change the NULL?
[21:16] <sigma> what kernel version does kubuntu 7.10 have?
[21:16] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: if the order is wrong it will say the file exist
[21:17] <misticwarrior> kk
[21:17] <Csigaa> limac: by drawing the potmeter with the mouse? :S
[21:17] <misticwarrior> ln -s* sry :D
[21:17] <Csigaa> sigma: 2.6.22
[21:17] <limac> Csigaa: what?
[21:17] <Csigaa> limac: you have started kmix, right?
[21:18] <limac> Csigaa: yeah
[21:18] <Csigaa> and you can see some mixer lines like PCM, Master, etc
[21:18] <sigma> how would i apply this patch to my kernel? - http://www.synce.org/index.php/Connecting_your_Windows_Mobile_2005_device_via_USB_%28usb-rndis-lite%29
[21:19] <limac> Csigaa: not really
[21:19] <Csigaa> limac: what type of sound card do you have?
[21:19] <stdin> sigma: by downloading the kernel source, following that guide, then recompiling it
[21:19] <limac> Csigaa: it says current mixer and nothing in there
[21:20] <limac> Csigaa: I thing hda intel
[21:20] <sigma> stdin: is that patch command what i must enter into konsole? also how do i update the kernel config?
[21:20] <Csigaa> limac: I have no experience with that :(
[21:21] <limac> Csigaa: can u tell me some link or anything like that
[21:21] <sigma> stdin: do i have to install any other packages prior to patching the kernel?
[21:21] <Csigaa> limac: alsa-project.org. The one and original source
[21:22] <Csigaa> sigma: if the kernel doesn't have the required modules (read /boot/config-`uname -r`), then you should recompile it :(
[21:22] <limac> so if I install alsamixer that'll work?
[21:22] <stdin> sigma: you don't need to, just do "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" to get the source, then replace "cd /usr/src/linux" with the directory created
[21:22] <limac> Csigaa ^
[21:22] <Csigaa> limac: alsamixer is kinda "console version" of kmix
[21:22] <Cannoli> does anyone know a way to hide kopete. like with msn messenger, if u had msn plus, you could press a hotkey and it would lock and the convos and stuff would dissaprear. i think its called boss protection or boss mode
[21:22] <Csigaa> limac: they do the very same things
[21:23] <sd32_> how do i change my mouse  cursor in kubuntu?
[21:23] <Csigaa> limac: try alsamixer, but if kmix didn't work.........
[21:23] <SGL> I use putty to Ssh over to my Kubuntu box. My putty sessions keep randomly freezing for half a minute before continuing. Does anyone know what that could be?
[21:23] <limac> but will that work if I install few drivers and stuff for alsa?
[21:23] <rmaj> sd32_: KDE menu -> settings -> controll center - search tehre... probably perphelias -m ouse\
[21:24] <sd32_> maj, nope
[21:24] <rmaj> sd32_: yes
[21:24] <sd32_> rmaj, not in there
[21:24] <rmaj> sd32_: how come not
[21:24] <rmaj> sd32_: perhaps you also hit the bug about broken KDE controll center? if so then please report it!
[21:24] <stdin> sigma: after you apply the patch just do "sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r)" and you can run "fakeroot debian/binary" or "sudo debian/binary" to create some .debs you can install
[21:25] <kalorin> ok now this is way messed up
[21:25] <sd32_> rmaj, no control center under settings
[21:25] <kalorin> I just did a format and reinstall of 7.10
[21:25] <sigma> ok i managed to get ahold of someone in the synce room, hopefully he can walk me through it
[21:25] <kalorin> then I did an upgrade on the packages, and now it's saying that a new version is available
[21:25] <kalorin> I kept my old home directory
[21:25] <rmaj> sd32_: KDE menu (the big icon in panel) tehre there is (on the bottom!)  Settings - and there first item is Control Center
[21:25] <stdin> sd32_: have you looked in System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse > Cursor Theme ?
[21:26] <kalorin> should I do another install move my old home out of the way and then move something back in there?
[21:26] <kalorin> this is too wacky
[21:26] <Tokeiito> as i said i'm back. now i'm gettin error that my x server cant load cose it cant intilise NVIDIA kernel modules
[21:26] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: doesn't do anything :(
[21:26] <kalorin> Tokeiito: I had that issue too
[21:26] <kalorin> jsut today
[21:26]  * rmaj hugs Csigaa it worked
[21:26] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: I think (as I said before) that nvidia module is not in restricted modules
[21:26] <Tokeiito> kalorin how you fixed it?
[21:26] <Csigaa> but it has a separate package
[21:26] <misticwarrior> I even tried rc-update... so now I can do /etc/init.d/mplayer_wakeup start
[21:26] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: try sudo ./<your_script>
[21:26] <Csigaa> apt-cache search nvidia
[21:27] <kalorin> I kept banging away at packages that I felt would help, then I was able to start x
[21:27] <Tokeiito> csigaa i've installed nvidia-gfx-new
[21:27] <kalorin> module-assistant
[21:27] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: not enough
[21:27] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: kk
[21:27] <Csigaa> you should have a kernel module too
[21:27] <kalorin> xserver-xorg-video-vn
[21:27] <Tokeiito> also nvidia kernel
[21:27] <Csigaa> nvidia-glx is only the OpenGL lib
[21:27] <kalorin> nvidia-glx
[21:28] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: ah. and run sudo chmod +x /etc/<script>
[21:28] <kalorin> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-generic
[21:28] <kalorin> nvidia-xconfig
[21:28] <misticwarrior> I did it ScorpKing
[21:28] <rmaj> how to set exact refresh rate of my monitor? 50, 58, 59  all work not so good, I think it should be 59.9 or 60 or 60.1
[21:28] <ardchoille> apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[21:28] <misticwarrior> sudo ./helloworld.sh says "command not found" ScorpKing :S
[21:29] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: are there errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? What do they say?
[21:29] <Tokeiito> chm.. its interesting cose with nvidia-glx i can lounch x server, but cant get normal resolution..
[21:29] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: can you pastebin it?
[21:29] <ScorpKing> !paste > misticwarrior
[21:29] <Csigaa> Tokeiito: resolution => dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:29] <Tokeiito> Csigaa 1 sec, will lounch x with nv
[21:29] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Try: sudo sh helloworld.sh
[21:29] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ho sorry, in fact sudo ./ works... I pastebin it now
[21:30] <ScorpKing> np
[21:30] <sd32_> stdin, rmaj, ok got it thanks
[21:31] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47739/
[21:31] <alesan> hi, I have just connected an external monitor to my laptop (thinkpad t61 with intel graphics)
[21:31] <alesan> what is the preferred waht to setup dual screen preferably not having to restart X or the system?
[21:32] <Tokeiito> k. back in normal irc client
[21:32] <Csigaa> alesan: xrandr
[21:32] <Csigaa> or something GUI :)
[21:32] <alesan> Csigaa: ok. any example to use xrandr?
[21:32] <Csigaa> alesan: no clue :)
[21:32] <Tokeiito> what i need to reconfigure for resolutions?
[21:33] <Csigaa> alesan: manpage... :)
[21:34] <alesan> the problem's that xrandr says: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1280
[21:34] <alesan> so I cannot basically add another monitor
[21:34] <ardchoille> Tokeiito: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:34] <Tokeiito> thank you
[21:35] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, ubotu: heh, ok - got it...of course I needed to get in trouble first for insisting It should be formatted as ntfs so I can read it on windows
[21:35] <Cannoli> does anyone know a way to hide kopete. like with msn messenger, if u had msn plus, you could press a hotkey and it would lock and the convos and stuff would dissaprear. i think its called boss protection or boss mode
[21:36] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: run which mplayer and put the full path in there. do that for all the commands like asoundconf as well
[21:36] <Daisuke_Ido> well, you can do ntfs, but i personally don't trust ntfs support in linux yet :)
[21:36] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's probably because i got burned once
[21:36] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: which <app> will give you the full path
[21:36] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, thanks for the tip
[21:37] <misticwarrior> which mplayer ? I don't understand... there is no path with "asoundconf" command ?!
[21:37] <Csigaa> Cannoli: switch desktop
[21:37] <misticwarrior> ho scuse me
[21:37] <misticwarrior> which is a command ;)
[21:37] <misticwarrior> Ok thx I try
[21:37] <Cannoli> no the kopete msgs still show in the bar down here vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[21:38] <Csigaa> Cannoli: then configure kicker to show only one desktop's windows
[21:38] <misticwarrior> ok i'm going to reboot to test now :)
[21:38] <Csigaa> Cannoli: look around the settings :)
[21:38] <Cannoli> oh
[21:38] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Wait
[21:38] <misticwarrior> k
[21:38] <Cannoli> good idea
[21:38] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Why are you rebooting?
[21:38] <misticwarrior> ardchoille: I'm here :D
[21:39] <misticwarrior> ardchoille: I want to test if my script starts at bootup
[21:39] <misticwarrior> so I must have a bootup :D
[21:39] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: just run the script to see if it works
[21:39] <ardchoille> misticwarrior: Ah, ok
[21:39] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: if it does then reboot
[21:39] <Cannoli> thanx alot csigaa
[21:39] <Cannoli> :)\
[21:39] <misticwarrior> Yeah... thx ScorpKing, I'm back in a minute ;)
[21:39] <ScorpKing> righto
[21:40] <roland> Daisuke_Ido, ok - starting to see what you mean...I can't unmount the drive properly...I guess this means I can't trust everything is flushed to disk, correct?
[21:41] <Daisuke_Ido> no, just that ntfs support is still somewhat new, and with MS changing it every so often, it's like trying to hit a moving target
[21:42] <misticwarrior> re
[21:42] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: doesn't work...
[21:42] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: how does MS change his filesystem often?
[21:42] <Csigaa> okay that there are 2 or 3 NTFS versions (like extfs has too)
[21:42] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: but I have in idea that it should start in a shell... like tty1, shouldn't it ?
[21:42] <Csigaa> but it is not true that it "changes"
[21:43] <Csigaa> perhaps the new Vista-formatted NTFS can be trouble
[21:43] <Csigaa> *can be*
[21:43] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: in fact now nothing about my script happens...
[21:43] <Daisuke_Ido> Csigaa: minor things change
[21:43] <Daisuke_Ido> and yeah, it's trouble.  ntfs is a moving target
[21:44] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: then an older, not-so-often-updated XP can not read a new XP SP2-formatted partition?
[21:44] <Csigaa> I don't think so :S
[21:44] <raul> hola a todos
[21:44] <Tokeiito> ok it seems i resolved problem with resolution. thank you all. chm.. its just all view very sharp :(
[21:44] <Tokeiito> now have other problem, my sound doesnt work
[21:44] <Daisuke_Ido> The NTFS versions as installed on the last-named operating systems are sometimes referred to as v5.0, v5.1, and v6.0, after the version of Windows NT with which they ship. Each newer version added extra features, for example Windows 2000 introduced quotas while Windows Vista introduced Transactional NTFS, NTFS symbolic links, and self-healing functionality.[6]
[21:44] <Tokeiito> KMix is not runing
[21:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i *did not say that*, please do not put words into my mouth.
[21:45] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: now I understand :)
[21:45] <Tokeiito> also there is no mixer choise in KMix options
[21:45] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i'm out of ideas. have the script make a blank file with touch so you can see if it does get run. the link in /etc/rc.2/ should start with S so it starts
[21:45] <Csigaa> I thought the same that you have writtená
[21:45] <Csigaa> .á
[21:45] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: what is the link called btw?
[21:46] <Daisuke_Ido> they keep adding stuff that, when trying to use the older ntfs drivers on the linux side, can break things on the windows side, at least that's how i understand it
[21:46] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: I used rc-update... so it did it automatically
[21:46] <Daisuke_Ido> as it stands right now, if you have xp on the windows side, you should be just fine using ntfs-3g
[21:46] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: # update-rc.d apache_exemple defaults 20
[21:46] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: I have no problems reading/writing a non-compressed non-encrypted NT 5.1 (XP) NTFS.
[21:47] <Csigaa> but compressing is a problem :S
[21:47] <Csigaa> (and file access rights)
[21:47] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: and I see it used links with "etc/rc*"
[21:47] <misticwarrior> etc...
[21:47] <misticwarrior> it did something like :
[21:47] <Tokeiito> chm.. it seems that alsa is broken, cose even cant laounch alsamixer: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[21:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Csigaa: yeah.  for the most part, a typical user should have no issues using ntfs-3g
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> compression and encryption aren't fun
[21:48] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: oh ok. can you paste the relevant line from ls -l /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[21:48] <misticwarrior> kk
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i got burned trying to write to ntfs
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> reading's easy enough
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> granted, it was some time ago
[21:48] <Csigaa> the old NTFS kernel code?
[21:48] <Daisuke_Ido> but i haven't used windows in quite a while either :)
[21:48] <kalorin> ok
[21:49] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not sure
[21:49] <kalorin> can anyone tell me why apt is all out of sync after doing an install?
[21:49] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47743/
[21:49] <kalorin> is there some way to sync the repository
[21:49] <kalorin> of packages?
[21:49] <Flare183> sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <Csigaa> Daisuke_Ido: I remember when menuconfig wrote for NTFS writig support that it was dangerous
[21:49] <Csigaa> arout 2.6.8
[21:49] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[21:49] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:49] <Csigaa> *around
[21:49] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: but there doesn't seem to have a "mplayer_wakeup"... O_o
[21:49] <Flare183> talking to you kalorin
[21:49] <kalorin> no this isn't a crazh
[21:50] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: ho : lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  24 2007-12-10 22:22 S20mplayer_wakeup -> ../init.d/mplayer_wakeup
[21:50] <kalorin> right
[21:50] <kalorin> this just keeps saying a new version is available and all these packages are ready to be upgraded
[21:50] <Flare183> bring up konsole type in sudo apt-get update
[21:50] <kalorin> but I just did a clean install (except for keeping my /home)
[21:50] <Flare183> doesn't matter
[21:50] <Flare183> i guess
[21:51] <kalorin> yeah the updater keeps telling me that there are packages that are messed up
[21:51] <ardchoille> kalorin: Right, the packages in the repos are newer version of the packages on your system, even if you just installed kubuntu today. you need to: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:51] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i see this one - S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local
[21:51] <Flare183> and upgrade every single one of them
[21:52] <kalorin> yeah
[21:52] <kalorin> I've got to do them 1 at a time from the command line
[21:52] <kalorin> ok
[21:52] <kalorin> welp tomorrow
[21:52] <kalorin> what a mess
[21:52] <Tokeiito> how to fire up sownd? it seems that alsa is down.
[21:52] <ardchoille> kalorin: No, you can upgrade all your packages at one time
[21:52] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: yeah... and ? :P
[21:52] <ardchoille> !sound | Tokeiito
[21:52] <ubotu> Tokeiito: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:53] <Tokeiito> thank you
[21:53] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: one thing though - your script does not log into tty1 so i'm not so sure if mplayer supports that. look in /var/log/? to see if there's anything usefull
[21:53] <Csigaa> bye
[21:54] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: in tty1, I can start my script..... manually...
[21:55] <mark__> hello
[21:55] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: oh i see. hmm.. grep the logs for mplayer ;)
[21:55] <mark__> can anyone help me with kaffeine?
[21:55] <misticwarrior> grep ?
[21:55] <mark__> ?
[21:56] <misticwarrior> how to ?
[21:56] <ScorpKing> oh
[21:56] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: find /var/log/ mplayer | grep mplayer ?
[21:57] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: sudo grep -r mplayer /var/log/ - IIRC
[21:57] <mark__> i've never used kubuntu before
[21:58] <ScorpKing> hi mark__
[21:58] <mark__> hello scorpking
[21:58] <mark__> how are you?
[21:59] <ScorpKing> good thanks. a few guides..
[21:59] <ScorpKing> !ask
[21:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:59] <ScorpKing> !ot > mark__
[21:59] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47744/
[21:59] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: mplayer_wakeup at line 37...
[21:59] <mark__> how do i get the shound working in kaffeine?
[22:01] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: that's not it.
[22:01] <ScorpKing> !sound | mark__: try this -
[22:01] <ubotu> mark__: try this -: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:01] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: and so... no idea ? :P
[22:02] <mark__> timeout on server
[22:02] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: that was when you manually started it with sudo. did you make the script touch a file so you can see if it runs at boot?
[22:02] <mark__> are you talking to me?
[22:03] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: no.. but I can... like "hello world > helloworld.txt" ?
[22:03] <mark__> eek
[22:03] <ScorpKing> touch /home/you/somefile.txt
[22:03] <mark__> i feel like i'm 12 again
[22:03] <misticwarrior> kk
[22:04] <mark__> not having a clue what to do
[22:04] <ardchoille> mark__: What do you need help with?
[22:04] <mark__> well, everything
 how do i get the shound working in kaffeine?
[22:04] <misticwarrior> ok I reboot
[22:04] <mark__> i download something to install and it comes in an archive
[22:04] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: ^
[22:04] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: ty
[22:04] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[22:05] <mark__> i unpack it and have no idea what to do with it
[22:05] <ardchoille> mark__: Did you check to see if the app was in the repos before downloading a package?
[22:05] <mark__> the what?
[22:05]  * ScorpKing thinks he needs some usefull guides..
[22:05] <mark__> for beginers :)
[22:05] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: first time user
[22:05] <ardchoille> mark__: Always check the repos before installing something as the app may be as easy to install as "sudo apt-get install app_name"
[22:05] <rmaj_> kubuntu fails to start X
[22:05] <rmaj_> wtf
[22:06] <mark__> how do i check it
[22:06] <ardchoille> mark__: You can cehck the repos by launching adept_manager
[22:06] <rmaj_> how to reinstall my nvidia propertriary driver
[22:06] <stdin> rmaj_: watch the language in here
[22:06] <mark__> that only has very few things in it
[22:07] <ardchoille> mark__: Which Kubuntu release did you install?
[22:07] <mark__> i downloaded a file called xine-lib-1.1.8.tar.bz2
[22:07] <mark__> erm.... 6.06?
[22:07] <ardchoille> mark__: xine is in the repos: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[22:08] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: it did nothing but...
[22:08] <ardchoille> mark__: fwiw, 6.06 is quite old.. 7.10 is the latest stable release
[22:08] <mark__> is it a simple upgrade?
[22:08] <misticwarrior> if I try "touch file" in a shell now, it does nothing too...
[22:08] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: if I try "touch file" in a shell now, it does nothing too...
[22:08] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: man touch
[22:08] <stdin> misticwarrior: "dose nothing" ? you sure
[22:08] <ardchoille> mark__: No, you have to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.01 to 7.10 :(
[22:08] <mark__> Package xine-ui is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:08] <mark__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:08] <mark__> is only available from another source
[22:08] <mark__> E: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate
[22:09] <stdin> misticwarrior: it would create a file called "file"
[22:09] <ScorpKing> !paste > mark__
[22:09] <mark__> ?
[22:09] <stdin> mark__: read the message from ubotu
[22:09] <misticwarrior> shit... I used it with an existing file...
[22:09] <misticwarrior> :D
[22:09] <misticwarrior> I re-try then :)
[22:09] <misticwarrior> brb
[22:09] <mark__> sorry
[22:10] <stdin> misticwarrior: touch won't overwrite a file, just update it's timestamp
[22:10] <sMonk> Hello
[22:10] <mark__> it says the file is missing
[22:11] <ardchoille> mark__: Since you are new, I'd recommend launching adept_manager and searching for xine
[22:11] <snikker> i've got a problem with k3b... when i verify a cd, it fail everytime, but all data are ok. can you help me?
[22:11] <sMonk> I have a question about removing a poblem when someone has a free min.
[22:12] <mark__> searching brings up no results
[22:12] <ardchoille> mark__: You may need to edit your sources. Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[22:12] <misticwarrior> GOOD NEW !!
[22:12] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[22:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:12] <misticwarrior> it created a file, stdin & ScorpKing :P
[22:12] <mark__> how do i do that?
[22:13] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: so the script run. :D
[22:13] <misticwarrior> stdin, ScorpKing : yeah and it works cause when I start it in a shell it works...
[22:13] <misticwarrior> but not at bootup...
[22:14] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: if it creates a file at boot then the script runs. maybe there's a problem with running mplayer like that
[22:14] <ScorpKing> S/runs/is correct
[22:14] <misticwarrior> stdin, ScorpKing : but if I run the script in tty1, it works perfectly !
[22:15] <Daisuke_Ido> what exactly are you trying to *do*?
[22:15] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: remember you're not logged in during boot
[22:15] <sMonk> I have been trying to install Java for Firefox, but with no luck. So I D/L a .bin file off the site for the Java plug in, saved it to my desktop, went and read the instructions on how to install this file, and did it. Now Firefox still has no Java support, and now I have a "globe" on my task bar that just comes up with "new server" when I click it, and I have the folder "jre1.6.0_03" that will not delete because it says "Access
[22:15] <sMonk> denied to /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/README" Any idea?
[22:16] <Daisuke_Ido> sMonk: did you look in the repositories
[22:16] <misticwarrior> ScorpKing: but a server can start during boot... isn't it possible with a musicplayer ? :(
[22:16] <stdin> sMonk: you just install "sun-java6-plugin" to get java for firefox
[22:16] <sMonk> Under Kpackage
[22:16] <ScorpKing> sMonk: sudo chown dale:dale -R /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/
[22:16] <stdin> sMonk: and if you ran the .bin as root, then you need to delete the directory it created as root too
[22:17] <sMonk> ok, but did I mess anything up? (yes I installed as root)
[22:17] <ScorpKing> misticwarrior: i have no idea. you'll have to try some other player i think
[22:17] <misticwarrior> ok
[22:17] <misticwarrior> thanks for your help...
[22:17] <ScorpKing> yw
[22:17] <misticwarrior> I'm going to sleep now :)
[22:18] <ScorpKing> nite
[22:18] <misticwarrior> have a good night !
[22:18] <maduser> were is the off topic channel
[22:18] <stdin> sMonk: if you install "sun-java6-plugin" with adept/apt-get and it works in firefox, then it should be ok
[22:18] <rmaj_> how to have module foo loaded before mouting filesystems?
[22:18] <sMonk> I mean, should I be "un-installing" this .bin file some how? rather than just deleting the folder?
[22:18] <mark__> how do i register on this?
[22:18] <ScorpKing> !register
[22:18] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:18] <sMonk> stdin: I'm doing that now
[22:18] <stdin> maduser: #kubuntu-offtopic
[22:18] <sMonk> stdin:  thanks
[22:19] <maduser> cool
[22:19] <maduser> where is arocholie?
[22:19] <stdin> rmaj_: add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[22:19] <rmaj_> stdin: just by hand, it will not be overwritten on upgrade?
[22:20] <mark__> where do i type the /msg nickserv?
[22:20] <rmaj_> mark__: right here
[22:20] <stdin> rmaj_: no, dpkg always asks when trying to overwrite config files
[22:21] <sMonk> I mean, should I be "un-installing" this .bin file some how? rather than just deleting the folder?
[22:21] <stdin> mark__: if it contains your password it's best to do it in the server tab, incase you accidentally add an extra space
[22:21] <mark__> thanks
[22:22] <stdin> sMonk: if it all works after installing the package, then you don't need to bother. just make sure you run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java" after you install
[22:22] <lingard> woo
[22:22] <rmaj_> how to have cool 3d desktop effects
[22:23] <lingard> thats the first thing i've been able to do since installing kubuntu
[22:23] <stdin> !compiz | rmaj_
[22:23] <ubotu> rmaj_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:23] <rmaj_> how stable is it?
[22:23] <stdin> not very
[22:24] <sMonk> WOW! I had 4 of them to choose from
[22:24] <andrewlin> What's a good program to use in replacement of Amarok?
[22:25] <lingard> how do i install the greyed out things in adept?
[22:25] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) why would you want to replace amarok, and 2) if you MUST, check out audacious if you want that old-tyme winampy feel
[22:25] <stdin> replace amarok? what are you insane? :P
[22:25] <stdin> !media
[22:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:25] <rmaj_> andrewlin: perhaps xmms, but why
[22:25] <sMonk> I selected the correct one, but when I go to "java.com" or what ever to "verify" installation, it still telling me I need to d/l Java plugin
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> sMonk: did you restart firefox?
[22:26] <stdin> sMonk: have you restarted firefox ?
[22:26] <sMonk> You mean close it, then re-open it?
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that's generally the definition of restart
[22:26] <andrewlin> I've been using Linux for two days now, and I just don't like using Amarok. I would prefer something more .. "windowies".
[22:26] <stdin> sMonk: yes
[22:27] <hydrogen> theres something "windowsy?"
[22:27] <sMonk> then yes
[22:27] <hydrogen> I can think of three completely different approaches on windows to media players
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: none of them good.
[22:27] <georgeb> andrewlin: what did you use on windows ?
[22:27] <hydrogen> well, foobar is pretty good if you spend half your life configuring it
[22:27] <andrewlin> WMP rofl
[22:27] <sMonk> Still no good
[22:27] <emilsedgh> andrewlin: i have to say that you are the first one that i have seen that doesnt like Amarok
[22:27] <stdin> sMonk: hmm, tell me. are you in 32bit or 64bit ?
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> you used windows media player?
[22:27] <sMonk> 32
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, oh no son, you need help :P
[22:28] <andrewlin> Well..I could just use wine to work with WMP but...I really don't want to.
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> give amarok a shot, read up on it.  see why it's the premier music software
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and it is
[22:28] <andrewlin> -.-'  fine =P
[22:28] <hydrogen> there is nothing closer to wmp on linux really
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> windows users are eager to get their hands on amarok 2.0 when it's released for windows :D
[22:29] <hydrogen> most of the big featured music apps on linux are Amarok clones
[22:29] <hydrogen> except for rhythmbox, which cloned itunes
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and not well
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> rhythmbox made me cry
[22:29] <sMonk> stdin: 32 bit
[22:29] <stdin> sMonk: try doing "sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so" and make sure "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" is selected
[22:29] <emilsedgh> while windows people are dying to get Amarok in win, you want wmp on wine!
[22:30] <sMonk> it wasn't, it is now
[22:31] <stdin> sMonk: ok, restart firefox (again), and let's see if it works
[22:31] <andrewlin> XD, I'm sorry I don't like Amarok!
[22:31] <sMonk> Whoraaayyy it does
[22:31] <sidrun> Kas siin on kedagi kes räägib eesti keelt???
[22:31] <jpatrick> !ee | sidrun
[22:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <hydrogen> yea
[22:32] <hydrogen> I'm not surprised ubotu.. neither do I :(
[22:32] <limac> hey i just tried to upgrade thru the update manager sort of thing for the upgrades that came and there it said the a new version available but i am using kubuntu gutsy?
[22:32] <andrewlin> One of the features that I'm going to have to get used to...single-click, not double.
[22:32] <ScorpKing> andrewlin: you can change it
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> andrewlin: that can be changed
[22:32] <stdin> andrewlin: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse
[22:32] <rubax> Hiya folks.
[22:32] <andrewlin> woot haha
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> in fact, i changed that real quick
[22:33] <rubax> Need help installing barry here
[22:33] <ScorpKing> yeah me too
[22:33] <rubax> I tried the.deb files, it installs
[22:33] <rubax> but I cant find it anywhere
[22:33] <henrik_> guys, i've got a problem with my KDE splash-screen, when it loads, after a while, it gets white, and only the loading iconbar shows... any ideas?
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it annoyed the #$^@# out of me when they tried it with win98's active desktop, and it annoyed the #$%@ out of me when kde did it :)
[22:34] <rubax> I also tried to install it from the tar file
[22:34] <ScorpKing> !find barry
[22:34] <ubotu> Package/file barry does not exist in gutsy
[22:34] <rubax> but when I try to do make, it shows some errors
[22:35] <rmaj_> !find cure for cancer
[22:35] <ubotu> Found: libroxen-secureinsert, seccure, secure-delete, zope-securemailhost
[22:35] <ScorpKing> rubax: looks like you'll have to compile it. what's the errors?
[22:35] <stdin> rmaj_: don't abuse the bot
[22:35] <rubax> let me show them, wait a sec
[22:35] <jpatrick> !abuse > rmaj_
[22:35] <georgeb> rubax: try dpkg -L barry (or what is the name of the package) to see what files are in that package and where they are unpacked
[22:35] <ScorpKing> !paste > rubax
[22:36] <BluesKaj> !estonia
[22:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about estonia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:36] <hydrogen> !es
[22:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:36] <hydrogen> I don't think so
[22:37] <henrik_> anyone got a tip for me regarding my splash-screen?
[22:37] <ScorpKing> henrik_: what size computer do you have?
[22:37] <BluesKaj> hydrogen, the country domain for estonia is .ee but there is no chat with language (in some ways similar to finnish)
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, bout 9" x 12"
[22:38] <BluesKaj> that language
[22:38] <henrik_> 1800 pentium processor, 512 mb ram, nvidia FX5900
[22:38] <sMonk> Ok, tyring to get rid of that folder, using the "sMonk: sudo chown dale:dale -R /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/"
[22:38] <ScorpKing> henrik_: oh. that's enough. tried another theme?
[22:38] <sMonk> I get, "command not found"
[22:39] <ScorpKing> sMonk: try sudo rm -r /home/dale/Desktop/jre1.6.0_03/
[22:39] <henrik_> ScorpKing: yes, and they all do the same, ended up using none of them, but i'd like to get one back..
[22:39] <andrewlin> Let's say that I want to burn songs off a CD while using Linux.  I'm guessing that first I just load the CD into the computer, select to run through Amarok, then select all the songs I want, hit Playlist -> Save Playlist As.. -> [Select a folder] and then take out the CD, select that playlist I created, go to Playlist -> Burn to CD -> [Follow instructions from there on out].  Correct?
[22:39] <sMonk> Yay! it's gone
[22:39] <ScorpKing> henrik_: sorry, no idea
[22:40] <henrik_> ScorpKing: ok, thank you anyway. :)
[22:40] <ScorpKing> np
[22:40] <stdin> andrewlin: or, you can just open audiocd:/ in konqueror and choose the format you want then copy and paste to where you want
[22:41] <sMonk> Ok, now I need to get rid of this "globe" on the toolbar
[22:41] <andrewlin> stdin: ok thnx
[22:41] <sMonk> When I click on it (right or left) it just says "create server..."
[22:42] <rubax> !paste
[22:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:43] <sMonk> when I click that is says "New server - kpf" and some crap about not recommending sharing the root folder
[22:43] <rubax> ok ScorpionKing, here it is the output. I go to ./configure, does it without errors, then make
[22:44] <sMonk> Any ideas???
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> that appears to have nothing to do with java...
[22:44] <rubax> and I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47757/
[22:44] <rubax> Let me check the dpkg
[22:47] <andrewlin> stdin: Hey stdin, when I saved the Playlist I noticed it's just saving order of songs, etc...so I loaded the CD again and picked the option to use K3b, but in the options to download the songs it won't let me start..know how to fix?
[22:48] <stdin> andrewlin: have you tried going to audiocd:/ in konqueror? it's probably the easiest way of ripping a cd you'll ever use
[22:49] <alesan> hey my MIRCOSOF mouse is way too fast, I always have problems to aim it correctly
[22:49] <alesan> what can I do to reduce its speed and make it more accurate
[22:49] <alesan> Mircosoft
[22:49] <andrewlin> stdin: wow...so i just click and drag those files into the burn list?
[22:49] <alesan> it's a USB mouse and I also tried the bluetooth variant
[22:50] <alesan> way too fast
[22:50] <stdin> andrewlin: you just drag the files where ever you want to save them
[22:50] <andrewlin> stdin: wow, that is the easiest way of ripping, thnx for tips
[22:51] <stdin> andrewlin: no problem (and yes, that feature rocKs :)
[22:51] <bascule> alesan: in kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse
[22:51] <alesan> bascule: there is nothing about mouse speed that I can see
[22:51] <bascule> advanced tab
[22:52] <bascule> alesan: alt+f2 'kcontrol' go that way
[22:54] <alesan> bascule: I can see no mouse speed control sorry
[22:54] <bascule> ?
[22:54] <jac0b> Hello all, I need some help with samba and setting up a printer
[22:55] <nyork> jacob: what happened?
[22:55] <jac0b> I got a Win XP box that the printer is connected to and I can see it in the printer setup dialouge but when I click the computer I get nothing
[22:55] <alesan> bascule: if you can, open up kcontrol and tell me which option controls mouse speed because as far as I can see there is no setting for mouse speed.
[22:55] <alesan> anyway, it seems that
[22:55] <alesan> xset m 14/10 0
[22:55] <georgeb> alesan: accelaration
[22:55] <alesan> does a good job
[22:56] <nyork> jacob: you can browse the winxp box in your kubuntu?
[22:56] <alesan> thanks
[22:56] <sMonk> OK, I foundout that this icon is KPF (some file server for KDE) anyone know how to turn it off or get rid of it?
[22:56] <jac0b> umm
[22:57] <andrewlin> alesan: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> [In the left area] Mouse -> Advanced -> Pointer threshold
[22:57] <bascule> alesan: sorry, It seemed obvious to me ... :)
[22:57] <nyork> jacob: is your problem printing from kubuntu to xp
[22:57] <jac0b> yes thru konqueror and the printer setup but they are both blank once I select the computer w/ the printer
[22:57] <sigma> are there any equivalents to gwenview in the repo?
[22:57] <sMonk> nm... figured it out
[22:58] <sMonk> I'm dumb some days
[22:58] <jac0b> nyork: yes I want to print from kubuntu to XP
[22:58] <funkja> What channel would I want to join to ask questions about SMTP?
[22:59] <georgeb> jac0b: is the printer shared on XP ?
[22:59] <bascule> funkja: more specifc? a mail server or client or just general understanding?
[23:00] <jac0b> if I type smbclient -L localhost in term I get "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[23:00] <jac0b> yes the printer is shared on the xp box
[23:00] <funkja> bascule: I am sending a message from a program and in some mail Clients it shows the name of the sender along with the email address, I was wondering if this was part of the sender adding something to the SMTP commands or the Client understanding somehow?
[23:01] <jac0b> do I need to edit my smb.conf file?
[23:01] <bascule> funkja: it's the senders client doing that as in name:bascule address:me@mydomain.org
[23:02] <funkja> bascule: so like   "MAIL FROM name:Jason:funkja@domain.org"
[23:02] <funkja> oops
[23:03] <funkja> address:funkja
[23:03] <funkja> MAIL FROM name:Jason address:funkja@domain
[23:03]  * ScorpKing drops in again..
[23:03] <georgeb> funkja: this should be MAIL FROM: Jason <funkja@domain.org>
[23:03] <bascule> funkja: I don't actually know how it's done, but #mutt or #postfix are good starts
[23:04] <ScorpKing> !cups | jac0b
[23:04] <ubotu> jac0b: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[23:04] <bascule> georgeb: a-ha
[23:04] <georgeb> funkja: but the client might interpret somthing from DATA part of SMTP that goes something like From: Jason
[23:04] <funkja> hm
[23:04] <jac0b> don't I need samba or is that just for sharing from my machine
[23:05] <ScorpKing> samba is if you share from your machine. you still need smb-client IIRC
[23:05] <ScorpKing> !samba
[23:05] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[23:05] <ScorpKing> look at those links
[23:06] <funkja> georgeb: my smtp server isn't liking MAIL FROM: Jason <funkja@domain>. I will put it in the DATA part. Thanks.
[23:07] <alesan> is there a channel explicitly dedicated to amd64 versions of kubuntu?
[23:07] <ScorpKing> not that i know of
[23:08] <hydrogen> why would there be?
[23:08] <georgeb> funkja: some servers check the domain name if it's valid.. try MAIL FROM: Jason <funkja@domain.org>
[23:09] <funkja> georgeb: I was using the correct domain
[23:09] <georgeb> jac0b: try running in a terminal kcontrol --nofork and configure the printer from that window, you should get more details on the error in the terminal
[23:10] <funkja> quit
[23:10] <funkja> oops
[23:14] <rubax> Nevermind Scorps, I was missing g++ (woops!)
[23:16] <contxt> Thaks for the help everyone it is printing now
[23:18] <deuryte> uuuuhhhhhh..... ilt !!  xcell......
[23:19] <deuryte> xcell
[23:19] <rubax> make
[23:19] <deuryte> xcell
[23:20] <deuryte> xcell
[23:20] <hydrogen> stop spamming
[23:21] <rubax> sorry, mine was a typo
[23:21] <LimCore> with flash my firefox sometimes when on youtube
[23:22] <LimCore> is this a known problem?
[23:22]  * Flare183 is away: Gone away for now.
[23:22] <deuryte> what is spamming???????????
[23:23] <deuryte> xcell
[23:23] <holo> deuryte spermming is something that happens in porn movies and not only
[23:24] <hydrogen> !topoic
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topoic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <hydrogen> !offtopic
[23:24] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:25] <deuryte> ya dummies !!!
[23:25]  * hydrogen has seen much better trolls
[23:26] <Don_jr333> how can I tell how my drive is partitioned...how much swap space and what not
[23:26] <Dragnslcr> df
[23:26] <Dragnslcr> Don_jr333, that's for you
[23:26] <hydrogen> fdisk -l device
[23:26] <hydrogen> also
[23:26] <hydrogen> df shows mounted inforomation
[23:26] <hydrogen> fdisk will show actual partitions
[23:26] <georgeb> Don_jr333:  System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Disk & Filesystems
[23:27] <Don_jr333> thanks alot
[23:28] <Don_jr333> hydrogen what 'device' do I put tehre?
[23:29] <tarin_> hey guys and galls hows it goin
[23:30] <georgeb> Don_jr333: try sudo fdisk -l ; it should find the device automatically
[23:30] <Don_jr333> ok
[23:31] <deuryte> can anyone help me with kppp ??
[23:41] <assilva> ola
[23:41] <deuryte> xcell
[23:41] <deuryte> xcell
[23:42] <ScorpKing> !attitude
[23:42] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:42] <assilva> alguen sabe como eu vejo nivel de tinta no kde?
[23:42] <ScorpKing> !es
[23:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:42] <jughead> Hi, What software should I use in Kubuntu for managing partitions?  I just added a hard drive to my fileserver and I need to make a couple of ext3 partitions on it.
[23:43] <deuryte> i need   kppp  help   please........
[23:43] <ScorpKing> jughead: gparted is one. i prefer cfdisk though
[23:44] <jughead> thanks ScorpKing I've used the gparted live CD - I'll try that.  For some reason I thought it was  a GNOME thing and I didn't want to install all of the GNOME stuff just for gparted
[23:45] <ScorpKing> jughead: if you use the livecd you don't have to install anything. i think it's gnome btw
[23:46] <ScorpKing> jughead: try sudo cfdisk /dev/<drive> it's real easy to use and allready installed
[23:47] <jughead> yeah ScorpKing I like the liveCD but this is for a fileserver (no monitor/KB/anything) and I get my desktop through NX; I'm still new and the GUI of gparted is nice (for me)
[23:47] <ScorpKing> jughead: just ssh into the box then ;)
[23:48] <ScorpKing> try to learn cli as you go. it gets real usefull after a while.
[23:50] <jughead> I'm doing some stuff in CLI but it's still pretty basic.
[23:57] <deuryte> xcell
[23:58] <max_> what is the login screen called? its not the bootsplash is it?
[23:59] <jembouge> max_ i guess you KDM