[03:49] <CarlFK> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/django/trunk/files  click on "  view revision" = 500 server error
[03:52] <spiv> CarlFK: could you file a bug report about that at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar?
[03:53] <CarlFK> will do
[03:54] <spiv> Thanks!
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #175228 in launchpad-bazaar "view revision = 500 Internal error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175228
[04:07]  * Fujitsu thinks that's a dupe.
[04:07] <spiv> Fujitsu: if it is, that's not a big deal.
[04:07] <CarlFK> there were a few 500's that seemed different and had been listed as fixed, 
[04:08] <Fujitsu> Oh, it's not the %2F one.
[04:17] <thumper> CarlFK: what are you supposed to see when you click on "view revision"?
[04:19] <CarlFK> thumper: no clue.  I was searching for the debian/ dir
[04:20] <spiv> thumper: presumably something like http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/django/trunk/revision/vcs-imports%40canonical.com-20071209101856-n7t2yzgxd1yjqomp?start_revid=vcs-imports%40canonical.com-20071209101856-n7t2yzgxd1yjqomp
[04:22] <spiv> CarlFK: I wouldn't expect to find a debian/ dir in a vcs-imports branch -- those are branches imported directly from upstreams' SVN or CVS trunk.
[04:22] <CarlFK> so I hear
[04:32] <jml> spiv: I love those URLs :)
[04:39] <spiv> jml: yeah :/
[04:40] <spiv> jml: it'd be nice if it generated URLs like http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/django/trunk/revision/4416 instead, seeing as they work...
[04:41] <spiv> If only we had some clones of mwh...
[04:41] <jml> eerie.
[07:17] <poolie> hi
[07:17] <poolie> can anyone easily delete a junk/spam spec for me?
[07:17] <poolie> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+spec/harsha+vardan
[07:18] <poolie> if "not easily" i'll just blank it out
[08:03] <thumper> poolie: not easily I think is the answer there
[08:10]  * Fujitsu thinks that blueprint triaging/deleting functions would be useful.
[08:25]  * thumper agrees with Fujitsu
[08:30]  * Fujitsu notes that 2000 blueprints for Ubuntu is probably a bit silly.
[08:31] <mdke> would it be a valid bug if I request that more email headers be added to the emails about group member changes, I find it quite hard to filter them
[08:33] <mdke> especially now that the name in the From box depends on the group rather than being the same all the time
[08:35] <BjornT> mdke: yes, i think that would be a valid bug report. if you'll include your use cases in the bug, it increases the chance of it being fixed soon.
[08:36] <mdke> BjornT: will do, thanks for your help
[08:39]  * Fujitsu watches the chance of it being fixed in the next six months jump from `strongly very unlikely' to `mildly strongly very unlikely'.
[08:40]  * Fujitsu goes back to his cave.
[08:49] <jamesh> given the heat, retreating to a cave doesn't sound too bad ...
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Is it particularly hot? A slightly warm 21°C in Melbourne.
[08:53] <jamesh> 34°C here in Perth
[08:55] <spiv> I've been enjoying the storms in Sydney recently.  Hail yesterday, and lightning struck a tree about 40m from my kitchen on Friday -- bright flash, loud crack of thunder, and then I turned around to see smoke coming off a tree in the rain.
[08:55] <spiv> Wonderfully dramatic weather.
[08:57] <Fujitsu> jamesh: Ah.
[09:26] <mrevell> morning Launchpad!
[09:28] <Fujitsu> Hey mrevell.
[09:28] <mrevell> Hey Fujitsu
[09:47] <_polto_> hello
[09:48] <mrevell> Hi _polto_
[09:48] <_polto_> what's going with PPA ? i uploaded a package yesterday, no any confirmation by mail, and nothing on the interface ..
[09:49] <mrevell> _polto_: Let me check if there are any known issues.
[09:49] <_polto_> thanks
[09:54] <mrevell> _polto_: Sorry, I'll be another minute or two.
[09:54] <_polto_> ok, no pb
[10:10] <mrevell> _polto_: Hi - would you be able to private message me your email address and Launchpad username, please? The person I need to speak to is in Brazil and not available for another hour or so.
[10:11]  * Fujitsu can look for obvious issues.
[10:11] <Fujitsu> _polto_: Is the .changes file signed with a key that is associated with your Launchpad account?
[10:12] <_polto_> yes, i just tried first time to do polto at domain.com and not @
[10:12] <_polto_> is it what ?
[10:12] <Fujitsu> That would do it, yes.
[10:13] <_polto_> ok
[10:13] <_polto_> :)
[10:13] <Fujitsu> That will cause it to silently die.
[10:13] <_polto_> thanks
[10:13] <_polto_> uuh
[10:13] <_polto_> :)
[10:14] <_polto_> ok, i'll retry with my mail.
[10:15] <mrevell> Thanks Fujitsu - perhaps that's something I should pop in the PPA FAQ?
[10:15] <Fujitsu> mrevell: I'
[10:15] <Fujitsu> *I've seen it a couple of times, so that would be a good idea.
[10:15] <Fujitsu> I am of the opinion that it should email the signer in such a situation, but other more important people have other ideas.
[10:16] <Fujitsu> For good reason.
[10:19] <_polto_> ok, and how to know who maintain liblivemedia package in ubuntu distribution ?
[10:22] <Fujitsu> _polto_: It is unlikely that there is a specific maintainer; we maintain the vast majority of packages as a team.
[10:22] <Fujitsu> (we can be found in #ubuntu-motu)
[10:22] <_polto_> ok
[10:31] <mantiena-baltix> hi all
[10:32] <Fujitsu> Hi mantiena-baltix.
[10:33] <mantiena-baltix> Fujitsu: are you launchpad developer ?
[10:33] <Fujitsu> I am not.
[10:34]  * Fujitsu is a mortal.
[10:35] <mantiena-baltix> danilos: hi, SteveA told me, that I should ask you about translations upload problems
[10:36] <mantiena-baltix> could you look at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gcompris/+imports ?
[10:41]  * Fujitsu wonders who designed the new team membership change emails... They don't say Launchpad anywhere other than the from address, not even name.
[10:45] <mrevell> Fujitsu: Thanks, I'll take a look at those
[10:46] <Fujitsu> mrevell: The emails?
[10:46] <mrevell> Fujitsu: Yeah.
[10:46] <Fujitsu> Thanks.
[10:46] <Fujitsu> `ubuntu-dev deactivated by mdz' isn't entirely informative, and is a little scary.
[10:46] <mrevell> mantiena-baltix: jtv may also be able to help you if danilos isn't around at the moment.
[10:47] <Fujitsu> (that was the entire subject)
[10:47] <mrevell> mantiena-baltix: Let me see if I can find him
[10:47] <mrevell> Fujitsu: Thanks. Actually, do you mind filing a bug?
[10:47] <Fujitsu> mrevell: Not at all. I'll do so now.
[10:47] <mrevell> Fujitsu: Thanks :) I'll assign it to me. 
[10:47] <Fujitsu> I wish I could convince staging to send mail, so I could test the other emails.
[10:54] <mantiena-baltix> mrevell: Did you found jtv ?
[10:54] <mrevell> mantiena-baltix: Sorry, just pinged him.
[10:56] <jtv> Question about gcompris imports?
[10:56] <Fujitsu> jtv: mantiena-baltix was wondering about them.
[10:57] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: is it about the Lithuanian translation?
[10:57] <mrevell> thanks jtv
[10:59] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: yes, I'm trying to upload fixed Gcompris translation but without success
[10:59] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: firstly I forgot to keep X-Launchpad-Export-Date tag and got an email about this only after 2 days :(
[11:00] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: now I added this tag, but new po file doesn't appear in imports queue :(
[11:01] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: and this time it failed because of bug 173144.
[11:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173144 in rosetta "Import failure on translation credits" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173144 - Assigned to Jeroen T. Vermeulen (jtv)
[11:01] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: The import must contain a translation credits message, which it's not supposed to.
[11:02] <jtv> For translations in Launchpad, credits are generated automatically.
[11:02] <jtv> So a message like that is supposed to be ignored, but because of this bug, the import will fail.
[11:04] <mantiena-baltix> very strange - translation credits exists in exported file from launchpad also in original file from Gcompris SVN
[11:05] <Fujitsu> jtv: Do you mean it *does* contain, as opposed to *needs to* contain?
[11:05] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: Sorry, yes, I mean "this must be because it contains"
[11:07] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: so, I sould remove translation_credits msgid ?
[11:07] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: exactly.
[11:07] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: where this happens on Ubuntu translations, I announce it on ubuntu-translators, but maybe this happened too recently.
[11:09] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: if I remove translator_credits msgid, then all Gcompris Lithuanian translators (there are 4) will be not happy :(
[11:10] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: they shouldn't notice a difference because the lists are auto-generated.  (Remove them *only* from the Ubuntu translation, not from the upstream one!)
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175276 in launchpad "Launchpad does not tell you that you have cookies disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175276
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175277 in launchpad "Membership deactivation emails are misleading" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175277
[11:10]  * Fujitsu thinks the former is a dupe.
[11:11] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: How launchpad can find translators during autogeneration ? 
[11:11] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: not all are registered in launchpad
[11:12] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: aren't they?
[11:13] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: some translators translated Gcompris 4 years ago ! Launchpad didn't existed in these days ...
[11:16] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: are you talking about the Ubuntu translation or the original upstream translation?
[11:17] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: I'm talking about original translators, which are mentioned in msgid "translator_credits"
[11:20] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: why I can't remove old translation (dated 2007-12-07) from https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gcompris/+imports ? When I choose "Deleted" I get red message "There are 4 errors." and that's all :(
[11:20] <mantiena-baltix> What errors and where ?
[11:23] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: you don't really need to delete the Failed ones, but can you try something for me?
[11:24] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: What should I try for you ?
[11:24] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: can you filter your view of the queue on only the status of the entry/entries you want to delete, and then try again?
[11:24] <jtv> So if you're trying to delete the Blocked one, for example, you select Show: Blocked and click Filter.
[11:29] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: I see dropdown list only for "po/lt.po", which status now is "Needs Review" (The status for this file yesterday was "Failed", but when I tried to upload new lt.po file then status of old file changed automatically to "Needs Review" :-/ )
[11:31] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: when you upload the file again, your new upload takes the place of the old one.
[11:32] <mdz_> Fujitsu,mrevell: that was me removing ubuntu-dev from revu because I had been getting email every day about the fact that it was going to expire (and it was OK for it to expire)
[11:32] <mdz_> (according to dholbach)
[11:33] <Fujitsu> mdz_: I wasn't questioning the rationale for removing it, but thanks for explaining!
[11:43] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: but file date didn't change when I've uploaded new file :(
[11:44] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: that's not ideal, but it's normal.
[11:44] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: bwt I see two Gutsy translations uploaded, and one of them has an empty translator-credits message.
[12:05] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: where you see this ?
[12:05] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: in the same upload queue page you were looking at.
[12:07] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: maybe that's a permissions matter though.
[12:14] <Hobbsee> mailman has never been great on explanations.
[12:14] <Hobbsee> can someone unmoderate my mail, when they feel bored/
[12:17] <mantiena-baltix> jtv: which ones you see uploaded ? Lithuanian translations or other languages ?
[12:18] <mrevell> Hobbsee: To -users?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> mrevell: no, i can post to the dev list, without being a canonical employee :P
[12:21] <jtv> mantiena-baltix: I see two Lithuanian ones (plus some other languages)
[12:26] <mantiena-baltix> hehe, you have very good eyes ;) Could you paste dates of these uploaded files ?
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #175298 in launchpad-bazaar "Anyone can set "Best Fix Available"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175298
[16:09] <_polto_> is it possible to delete some old packages or bad named packaged from my PPA ?
[16:23] <stdin> _polto_: you should file a request on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion 
[16:24] <_polto_> thanks
[17:27] <AlexC_> Hey all,
[17:28] <AlexC_> I'm wondering what status to do I set for a blueprint that someone has registered that we wont or aren't going to implement
[17:28] <AlexC_> s/do I//
[17:48] <ddaa> "Not for us"
[17:48] <ddaa> that's the name of the status
[17:49] <ddaa> AlexC_: ^
[17:59] <AlexC_> ddaa, I don't see that anyway in the list
[17:59] <ddaa> mh
[18:03] <ddaa> AlexC_: that's Priority = "not"
[18:04] <ddaa>         This feature has been proposed but the project leaders have decided
[18:04] <ddaa>         that it is not appropriate for inclusion in the mainline codebase.
[18:04] <ddaa>         See the status whiteboard or the
[18:04] <ddaa>         specification itself for the rationale for this decision. Of course,
[18:04] <ddaa>         you are welcome to implement it in any event and publish that work
[18:04] <ddaa>         for consideration by the community and end users, but it is unlikely
[18:04] <ddaa>         to be accepted by the mainline developers.
[18:04] <AlexC_> ddaa, do you have a link where you got that from? I'd be interested in reading what all the statuses mean
[18:05] <ddaa> from looking at the code :)
[18:05] <ddaa> There must be some doc somewhere, let me look.
[18:05] <AlexC_> ddaa, oh ^^
[18:06] <AlexC_> though, what do I still put for the status to go along with that priority?
[18:07] <ddaa> I do not think the status will matter much.
[18:10] <ddaa> I can't find a detailed documentation about the various release statuses.
[18:11] <ddaa> It would not harm to have a look at https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BlueprintReleasePlanning
[18:11] <ddaa> Most priority values are fairly straightforward, Not is just a bit of a special case.
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #175345 in launchpad ""Bug #175078 is not in Ubuntu" even though (I think) it is" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175345
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175359 in launchpad "data info is incorrect for spanish translation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175359
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175363 in launchpad ""edit this announcement" link does not show the initial text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175363
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175364 in launchpad "Wishlist: pull from existing rss feed for announcements" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175364
[19:52] <afflux> hi! I'm the upstream author of gdecrypt, which is a registered product on launchpad. I'd like to use rosetta for translations, but my translation file still seems to need a review by an admin. Is there any way to speed this up or should I just wait?
[19:53] <afflux> url for the queue is https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gdecrypt/trunk/+imports
[20:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175372 in launchpad "LP announcement menu separator not clear after retract" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175372
[20:18] <thumper> afflux: I believe filing a question on the launchpad project might speed it up
[20:20] <thumper> afflux: or rosetta even: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+addquestion
[20:25] <afflux> thumper: okay, thank you
[20:26] <MTecknology> how do i add multiple files in launchpad?
[20:28] <thumper> MTecknology: what do you mean?
[20:28] <MTecknology> thumper, I want to attack files to a bug, but i only see room for one file
[20:29] <thumper> MTecknology: I think if you want to attach multiple files you need to do so one at a time
[20:29] <thumper> MTecknology: or tar them up
[20:30] <MTecknology> aight
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175379 in launchpad "RSS announcement date should be a drop down box" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175379
[20:56] <hexmode> I asked in #bzr, but maybe someone here knows.  Is there a straightforward tutorial on pqm somewhere?
[20:56] <hexmode> I want to use it for a project, but I'm a little frightened by the lack of docs 
[20:59] <jelmer> hexmode: There is some documentation included in the tarball
[20:59] <jelmer> that's all the documentation that is available afaik
[20:59] <hexmode> k, that is what I was afraid of ;)
[21:02] <gspr> is it known when the PPA will get a delete feature?
[21:06] <Fujitsu> gspr: That's bug #172587, and is targetted for Launchpad 1.2.1 (so, January).
[21:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172587 in soyuz "UI for deleting and copying packages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172587 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[21:07] <Fujitsu> For now, you can request deletions manually.
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #175392 in launchpad "modification of announcement not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175392
[22:06] <StevenHarperUK> Is there a launchpad admin here?
[22:07] <StevenHarperUK> I need a PPA upload removing - can that be done please?
[22:17] <StevenHarperUK> This channel full of bots?
[22:17] <mwh> not entirely
[22:17] <mwh> the best way to get the admins to do something is to ask a question, however
[22:18] <mwh> as in answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175417 in malone "Trac status import code doesn't handle non-existent bug trackers well" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175417