[02:06] New bug: #175214 in xfs (universe) "Serious problems with XFS immediatelly following clean install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175214 [09:26] New bug: #175262 in xserver-xorg-input-joystick (universe) "Please sync xserver-xorg-input-joystick 1:1.1.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175262 [17:23] New bug: #129603 in xorg (main) "[gusty] No DRI with "ati" drivers in x800xl card: RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129603 [19:11] New bug: #101943 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[nvidia] braid screensaver crashes system with compiz activated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101943 [20:13] Can you guys get to the X.org git repository? [20:13] $ git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/doc/xorg-docs/specs/ [20:13] Initialized empty Git repository in /home/ted/Development/xorg/specs/.git/ [20:13] fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly [20:13] fetch-pack from 'git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/doc/xorg-docs/specs/' failed. [20:20] lemme try [20:20] I blame 'git' ;) [20:21] hmm, it appeared to work, but then I got a wonky error [20:21] ... [20:21] * refs/heads/glucose-2: fast forward to branch 'glucose-2' of git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/xserver [20:21] old..new: da2c4fa..06a58f2 [20:21] fatal: Fetch failure: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/xserver [20:22] but yes, I can get to the git repo [20:22] Wow, seems to be diabetic... [20:22] Do you have anything in your ~/.git that I should have? [20:22] gitme the suga baby [20:22] I don't have a ~/.git [20:24] Hmm, is there a bazaar mirror? ;) [20:25] Can you e-mail me the XSMP spec? That'll probably be easiest at this point. [20:26] where in the tree is it? [20:27] xorg/doc/xorg-docs/specs/SM [20:32] git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/doc/xorg-docs worked for me [20:32] fwiw, you can also do apt-get source xorg-docs and get pretty much the same [20:33] in any case, here's the files: http://bryceharrington.org/files/SM/ [20:35] bryce: Cool, thanks. [20:43] bryce: Okay, is there a editor that humans can use for that file? [20:44] what's so hard about troff? [20:44] I enjoy teasing you almost as much as you me ;-) [20:44] tedg: I've got NFI [20:45] the xorg guys are ornery bastards and I bet they edit it in vi [20:45] and they LIKE it [20:46] because they can do it while walking to school uphill in the snow [20:46] Okay, what a PITA. [20:46] I think I'll probably use VI then. [20:47] Or, go with a little luxury and use VIM -- not the real experience, but close. [20:47] looking at the other specs it seems many of them just use plain text [20:48] troff does not seem to be the typical format; maybe that was just a peculiarity of whomever wrote it [20:48] perhaps difficulty editing it is a contributing factor to the reason why it seems unmaintained and disconnected from everything else [20:49] Yeah, could be. I'll just use Frontpage and put it in pseudo-HTML ;) [20:49] there you go [20:57] {full specification} [21:56] New bug: #144045 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "hibernate does not work on Thinkpad t42 in Gutsy Gibbon (dup-of: 121653)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144045 [22:28] bryce: hey, I uploaded xorg with two small changes, and probably the last upload before -8 which drops xresprobe [22:28] heya tjaalton [22:29] cool [22:29] I'm still hacking on tormod's script and trying to figure out git merge issues [22:29] (I'm pondering if bzr's merge works any better...) [22:29] heya bryce! [22:29] we still need to figure out what to do with livecd cleaning up the xorg.conf stub [22:30] got my last patch? :) [22:30] tormod: yup, applied and pushed [22:30] bryce: ok, I still haven't tried the script [22:30] tjaalton: yeah... any thoughts on that? we seem to be accumulating bug reports about that [22:30] tjaalton: don't worry about it, I've still got avenues to explore [22:31] basically I think I just need better git-fu [22:31] tjaalton: oh one question [22:31] bryce: well I'm thinking that it's not our bug, but maybe the way it's handled in pre/postinst could be improved [22:32] tormod and I want to share access to the git repo for this script, ala svn. I know this can be done with bzr in launchpad, but how do we achieve that with git on alioth? [22:32] tormod: oh whoops just saw your latest patch, I do need to add that [22:33] tormod: I got the -D option, the rest is new [22:33] bryce: well, there are a lot of projects under "collab-maint", but I'm not sure how to set up one [22:38] bryce: you want to share commit access? [22:38] collab-maint seems to be meant for debian packages [22:39] hrm [22:39] or do you just mean to put it somewhere for people to clone? [22:40] no, the latter's already set up [22:40] I'm just thinking, that I'm going to be a bottleneck for tormod (or vice versa if tormod was maintaining the git repo for it) [22:41] anyway, I guess it's fine this way for now. I was just hoping there'd be a simple way to flip it on, like with bzr [22:41] well, even though the tool uses git, does it have to be maintained in git?-) [22:42] bryce: I think the closest we can get is that I set up my own repo, and you pull changes from me on request. [22:42] bryce: and I can might as well send you diffs... I don't have bigger plans for it now. [22:43] ok sounds good [22:43] tjaalton: it's a git exercise for us :) [22:43] tormod: hehe, as good a reason as any ;) [22:43] tormod: I've applied and pushed your patch (for real this time) [22:43] have you tested it on all libraries etc lately? [22:44] actually it sort of is. ;-) I've never done a git thing from scratch, only following other people's trees, so this is exposing me to some new bits [22:44] tormod: yes I ran it on everything a few minutes ago. It's still failing on a large chunk, and I'm going to investigate further [22:44] bryce: I haven't done that either [22:45] I'm going to make xorg-pkg-all.sh try multiple approaches (first without dropping patches against -experimental, then against -unstable, then with patches dropped...) [22:45] would be cool if we could have "xorg daily" packages repo! and use the cd-customization scripts to make a daily xorg CD. that's my master plan. [22:46] yup, that's what I'm shooting for here as well [22:46] almost made the xorg upload an excercise of pulling specific debian changes in it, but figured out that -8 is coming soon so wasn't worth the trouble [22:47] although I was thinking ppa rather than daily cd, but that's a pretty good idea too [22:47] so upstream can say instead of "please try latest from git" : try the daily xorg live cd. and by wicked conspiracy, soon everybody is using Ubuntu. [22:47] >-) bwahaha [22:47] get them built first ;) [22:48] actually yeah it seems every week someone asks for this on the xorg list, so it solves a practical need [22:48] on it [22:49] at the moment alpha-1 is almost this, but it's only close twice a year [22:50] thanks to tjaalton, I must say [22:50] yes [22:51] bah, its nowhere near HEAD ;) [22:51] I meant yes, it's thanks to tjaalton ;-) [22:51] and really, aside from xserver and a few drivers, most things should be fairly close to head right now [22:51] heh, yeah [22:52] Okay, so I can't even recreate the PDF file I have. Is there some sort of troff stylesheet or instructions or something? [22:52] tedg: no idea [22:52] tedg: don't you need to run troff to turn it into a .ps first? [22:53] Yes, but my PS file has no paragraphs. [22:53] ps2pdf won't fix that. [23:10] bryce: hey, did you say that you are going to look at the XKB hell? [23:15] I just got a new keyboard and most of the special keys aren't working and I wonder how to make them produce events [23:16] but I'll figure it out later, now to bed.. seeya -> [23:18] cya