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[20:13] <tedg> Can you guys get to the X.org git repository?
[20:13] <tedg> $ git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/doc/xorg-docs/specs/
[20:13] <tedg> Initialized empty Git repository in /home/ted/Development/xorg/specs/.git/
[20:13] <tedg> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[20:13] <tedg> fetch-pack from 'git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/doc/xorg-docs/specs/' failed.
[20:20] <bryce> lemme try
[20:20] <tedg> I blame 'git' ;)
[20:21] <bryce> hmm, it appeared to work, but then I got a wonky error
[20:21] <bryce> ...
[20:21] <bryce> * refs/heads/glucose-2: fast forward to branch 'glucose-2' of git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/xserver
[20:21] <bryce>   old..new: da2c4fa..06a58f2
[20:21] <bryce> fatal: Fetch failure: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/xserver
[20:22] <bryce> but yes, I can get to the git repo
[20:22] <tedg> Wow, seems to be diabetic...
[20:22] <tedg> Do you have anything in your ~/.git that I should have?
[20:22] <bryce> gitme the suga baby
[20:22] <bryce> I don't have a ~/.git
[20:24] <tedg> Hmm, is there a bazaar mirror? ;)
[20:25] <tedg> Can you e-mail me the XSMP spec?  That'll probably be easiest at this point.
[20:26] <bryce> where in the tree is it?
[20:27] <tedg> xorg/doc/xorg-docs/specs/SM
[20:32] <bryce> git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/doc/xorg-docs  worked for me
[20:32] <bryce> fwiw, you can also do apt-get source xorg-docs and get pretty much the same
[20:33] <bryce> in any case, here's the files:  http://bryceharrington.org/files/SM/
[20:35] <tedg> bryce: Cool, thanks.
[20:43] <tedg> bryce: Okay, is there a editor that humans can use for that file?
[20:44] <bryce> what's so hard about troff?
[20:44] <bryce> I enjoy teasing you almost as much as you me ;-)
[20:44] <bryce> tedg: I've got NFI
[20:45] <bryce> the xorg guys are ornery bastards and I bet they edit it in vi
[20:45] <bryce> and they LIKE it
[20:46] <bryce> because they can do it while walking to school uphill in the snow
[20:46] <tedg> Okay, what a PITA.
[20:46] <tedg> I think I'll probably use VI then.
[20:47] <tedg> Or, go with a little luxury and use VIM -- not the real experience, but close.
[20:47] <bryce> looking at the other specs it seems many of them just use plain text
[20:48] <bryce> troff does not seem to be the typical format; maybe that was just a peculiarity of whomever wrote it
[20:48] <bryce> perhaps difficulty editing it is a contributing factor to the reason why it seems unmaintained and disconnected from everything else
[20:49] <tedg> Yeah, could be.  I'll just use Frontpage and put it in pseudo-HTML ;)
[20:49] <bryce> there you go
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[22:28] <tjaalton> bryce: hey, I uploaded xorg with two small changes, and probably the last upload before -8 which drops xresprobe
[22:28] <bryce> heya tjaalton
[22:29] <bryce> cool
[22:29] <bryce> I'm still hacking on tormod's script and trying to figure out git merge issues
[22:29] <bryce> (I'm pondering if bzr's merge works any better...)
[22:29] <tormod> heya bryce!
[22:29] <tjaalton> we still need to figure out what to do with livecd cleaning up the xorg.conf stub
[22:30] <tormod> got my last patch? :)
[22:30] <bryce> tormod: yup, applied and pushed
[22:30] <tjaalton> bryce: ok, I still haven't tried the script
[22:30] <bryce> tjaalton: yeah...  any thoughts on that?  we seem to be accumulating bug reports about that
[22:30] <bryce> tjaalton: don't worry about it, I've still got avenues to explore
[22:31] <bryce> basically I think I just need better git-fu
[22:31] <bryce> tjaalton: oh one question
[22:31] <tjaalton> bryce: well I'm thinking that it's not our bug, but maybe the way it's handled in pre/postinst could be improved 
[22:32] <bryce> tormod and I want to share access to the git repo for this script, ala svn.  I know this can be done with bzr in launchpad, but how do we achieve that with git on alioth?
[22:32] <bryce> tormod: oh whoops just saw your latest patch, I do need to add that
[22:33] <bryce> tormod: I got the -D option, the rest is new
[22:33] <tjaalton> bryce: well, there are a lot of projects under "collab-maint", but I'm not sure how to set up one
[22:38] <tjaalton> bryce: you want to share commit access?
[22:38] <tjaalton> collab-maint seems to be meant for debian packages
[22:39] <bryce> hrm
[22:39] <tjaalton> or do you just mean to put it somewhere for people to clone?
[22:40] <bryce> no, the latter's already set up
[22:40] <bryce> I'm just thinking, that I'm going to be a bottleneck for tormod (or vice versa if tormod was maintaining the git repo for it)
[22:41] <bryce> anyway, I guess it's fine this way for now.  I was just hoping there'd be a simple way to flip it on, like with bzr
[22:41] <tjaalton> well, even though the tool uses git, does it have to be maintained in git?-)
[22:42] <tormod> bryce: I think the closest we can get is that I set up my own repo, and you pull changes from me on request.
[22:42] <tormod> bryce: and I can might as well send you diffs... I don't have bigger plans for it now.
[22:43] <bryce> ok sounds good
[22:43] <tormod> tjaalton: it's a git exercise for us :)
[22:43] <tjaalton> tormod: hehe, as good a reason as any ;)
[22:43] <bryce> tormod: I've applied and pushed your patch (for real this time)
[22:43] <tormod> have you tested it on all libraries etc lately?
[22:44] <bryce> actually it sort of is.  ;-)  I've never done a git thing from scratch, only following other people's trees, so this is exposing me to some new bits
[22:44] <bryce> tormod: yes I ran it on everything a few minutes ago.  It's still failing on a large chunk, and I'm going to investigate further
[22:44] <tjaalton> bryce: I haven't done that either
[22:45] <bryce> I'm going to make xorg-pkg-all.sh try multiple approaches (first without dropping patches against -experimental, then against -unstable, then with patches dropped...)
[22:45] <tormod> would be cool if we could have "xorg daily" packages repo! and use the cd-customization scripts to make a daily xorg CD. that's my master plan.
[22:46] <bryce> yup, that's what I'm shooting for here as well
[22:46] <tjaalton> almost made the xorg upload an excercise of pulling specific debian changes in it, but figured out that -8 is coming soon so wasn't worth the trouble
[22:47] <bryce> although I was thinking ppa rather than daily cd, but that's a pretty good idea too
[22:47] <tormod> so upstream can say instead of "please try latest from git" : try the daily xorg live cd. and by wicked conspiracy, soon everybody is using Ubuntu. 
[22:47] <bryce> >-)  bwahaha
[22:47] <tjaalton> get them built first ;)
[22:48] <bryce> actually yeah it seems every week someone asks for this on the xorg list, so it solves a practical need
[22:48] <bryce> on it
[22:49] <tormod> at the moment alpha-1 is almost this, but it's only close twice a year
[22:50] <tormod> thanks to tjaalton, I must say
[22:50] <bryce> yes
[22:51] <tjaalton> bah, its nowhere near HEAD ;)
[22:51] <bryce> I meant yes, it's thanks to tjaalton ;-)
[22:51] <bryce> and really, aside from xserver and a few drivers, most things should be fairly close to head right now
[22:51] <tjaalton> heh, yeah
[22:52] <tedg> Okay, so I can't even recreate the PDF file I have.  Is there some sort of troff stylesheet or instructions or something?
[22:52] <bryce> tedg: no idea
[22:52] <bryce> tedg: don't you need to run troff to turn it into a .ps first?
[22:53] <tedg> Yes, but my PS file has no paragraphs.
[22:53] <tedg> ps2pdf won't fix that.
[23:10] <tjaalton> bryce: hey, did you say that you are going to look at the XKB hell?
[23:15] <tjaalton> I just got a new keyboard and most of the special keys aren't working and I wonder how to make them produce events
[23:16] <tjaalton> but I'll figure it out later, now to bed.. seeya ->
[23:18] <bryce> cya