[01:05] <slimjimflim> does anyone know how to check the age of a package?
[01:07] <thruxton> slimjimflim: look at its changelog
[01:07] <thruxton> slimjimflim: or do you mean when you installed it?
[01:07] <thruxton> in which case i am not sure
[01:07] <slimjimflim> when i installed it
[01:08] <slimjimflim> thx anyway
[01:08] <thruxton> i *think* aptitude keeps track of that, check in /var/log/
[01:09] <slimjimflim> thruxton, yea, /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:09] <slimjimflim> sweet
[01:11] <slimjimflim> shit, it only goes back 7 days though
[01:14] <tehlam3> any ubuntu gurus here need help :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47636/    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47637/
[01:15] <slimjimflim> nm, got it, it was /var/log/dpkg.log.1
[01:16] <slimjimflim> tehlam3, you have missing dependencies
[01:17] <tehlam3> and how can i fix them if the update doesnt work
[01:17] <slimjimflim> try this:
[01:17] <slimjimflim> sudo apt-get install dpkg
[01:17] <tehlam3> already tried that
[01:17] <slimjimflim> what's the output
[01:17] <tehlam3> didnt work
[01:18] <tehlam3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47640/
[01:18] <slimjimflim> what about `sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic`
[01:19] <slimjimflim> actually, ya, i think the second is right
[01:19] <slimjimflim> tehlam3?
[01:19] <tehlam3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47641/
[01:20] <slimjimflim> just keep trying to install the dependencies it tells you it needs
[01:21] <tehlam3> k will try
[01:21] <slimjimflim> eventually you should get to one without dependencies of it's own
[01:22]  * slimjimflim goes to the store
[01:28] <userXubuntu> Arghh, this is driving me nuts, ow do I fix it? - when I copy something it will only be in the memory as long as the program from which I copied it stays open.
[01:29] <userXubuntu> Is this a linux "feature"?
[01:30] <userXubuntu> Or customizable?
[02:25] <userXubuntu> I'm having serious problems wity Thunar, sometime it just goes nuts and refuses to read a directiry. while it makes the entire system go slow. Anyone had/having the same problem?
[02:36] <userXubuntu> There we go again.. Tuner f**ing up the comp...
[02:54] <Judeglass> hey guys
[02:54] <Judeglass> in xubuntu 7.1 where can i find the xfce4-panel config files
[02:55] <Judeglass> my panel fails to load due to some of it's elements not initializing
[02:55] <Judeglass> anyone care to share real qucik where the xml config file lies?
[02:56] <Judeglass> i was looking in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/
[02:56] <Judeglass> but /panel isn't there
[03:10] <userXubuntu> And there it goes again...
[03:56] <userXubuntu> This is really annoying...
[03:59] <zoredache> what direcotory?
[04:00] <zoredache> do you have anything mounted from the network?
[04:00] <userXubuntu> Not from network, but my ntfs disks..
[04:00] <zoredache> unmount them, and see if you have problems..
[04:01] <userXubuntu> I'll give that a try...
[04:01] <userXubuntu> (But the problem appears when I'm in (and only in) file system also)
[04:03] <userXubuntu> Well, that was new... I cannot unmount the volumes, I'm apperently not "priviiged enough", oh I'm sorry. What is this for aristrocrating OS? (I'm having priviligue problems with apache to...)
[04:03] <userXubuntu> *too
[04:04] <zoredache> no this is a secure operating system that doesn't let a user do some dangerous things without elevating your privileges
[04:04] <userXubuntu> When we are on the subject, on one of my drives, I have to log in everytime after reboot.
[04:04] <userXubuntu> Yes, I understand, but this is driving me nutz.
[04:04] <userXubuntu> Sudo this, and sudo that.
[04:07] <userXubuntu> OK, first I need to find ot why Thunar is doing what it's doing.
[04:10] <userXubuntu> Can I unmount using sudo? And if I do that will it be temporarily? (after reboot it will be fixed=?)
[04:13] <userXubuntu> I'm sorry I didn't mean to  insult Xubuntu/linux, but I have been through a lot this last hours.
[04:13] <zoredache> sudo umount /mountpath
[04:13] <zoredache> as for it getting better after a reboot, why not just try and see what happens
[04:14] <zoredache> generally though I suggest you not keep foreign filesystems mounted unless you are using them
[04:14] <userXubuntu> well, I'm kind of integratig linux with my win2k (linux uses files on the ntfs)
[04:15] <userXubuntu> (which win2k also uses)
[04:15] <userXubuntu> you get the idea...
[04:16] <zoredache> well I can get that is what you are trying to do, but I would suggest that your system would perform better if you try to avoid that
[04:16] <userXubuntu> "umount: /media/hdb5: device is busy"
[04:16] <userXubuntu> Oh, I'm sorry, am I disturbing you from something important?
[04:17] <userXubuntu> Zor, well, yes I kind of figured that ;)
[04:17] <zoredache> if you are using files on that filesystem then you cannot unmount it without your system crashing hard
[04:17] <zoredache> so it doesn't let you
[04:19] <userXubuntu> The problem is if I reboot and dismont, I will have nothing to do in Xubuntu, so it will be hard to do something else to find out why thunar is behaving as it is.
[04:19] <userXubuntu> (All my activity revolves around my main disks)
[04:19] <userXubuntu> Is there not some form of system checking tool?
[04:20] <userXubuntu> *I can use?
[04:21] <userXubuntu> Oh, and I must as, there are two thunar exe in the sys folder; Thunar and thunar; what is the difference? I have tried both, maybe I'm doing something wrong on that front?
[04:57] <bnalohim> an anyone help me with a problem i have with a disk... one jfs partition, i tried to repair it with gparted but didnt work: Unrecoverable error reading M from /dev/sdb1.  CANNOT CONTINUE. please.. i dont know what to do
[05:05] <vejan738> anybody help with me with ssh in xubuntu?
[05:05] <userXubuntu> I accidently killed the desktop, how do I restart it?
[05:06] <vejan738> startx at the prompt
[05:06] <userXubuntu> Thanks, but I just found it (desktop/pref/allow x to manage desktop)
[06:35] <userXubuntu> What does AS package libcpp<n> mean?
[06:36] <userXubuntu> (regarding choosing what version to download for install)
[06:50] <userXubuntu> I can chose between 5 and 6...
[07:33] <userXubuntu> Ok, now this is just freaky. On of my workspaces have died!?
[07:34] <userXubuntu> I'm having serious problems with xfce, and I do think I have identified the problem to the mount.ntfs, but I'm not sure, even ordinary programs such as firefox seems to be a culprit...
[09:01] <bmorber1> Can anyone here provide assistane for installing a wireless card?  I'm new to linux and I'm having a hard time getting my Linksys WPC45g to work.
[13:37] <Mannequin> hi. I've a question, an easy one, I think.
[13:38] <Mannequin> I'm using nicotine+ (a soulseek client).
[13:38] <Mannequin> I'm not using the one from the repositories, but the latest version.
[13:38] <Mannequin> I've dropped the folder on my desktop
[13:38] <Mannequin> and run the program by invoking "python ./nicotine"
[13:39] <Mannequin> now, I want to move the folder of this "standalone" program to a more conventional place on the linux filesystem
[13:39] <Mannequin> so, my question is: where is that place? where should I, by convention, put that folder?
[13:54] <counterpoint> hello
[14:08] <junkeR> in Xubuntu 7.10, why can't I select multiple files and get a combined properties window showing the total file size of the selected items?  This is possible in Ubuntu/Kubuntu as well as Windows.
[14:11] <ablomen> junkeR, its showed in the bottom bar of the thunar window
[14:12] <junkeR> just the total file size is?  How about when you're selecting folders?
[14:15] <ablomen> du -h folder
[14:15] <ablomen> or file for that mater
[14:16] <junkeR> well my issue isn't the biggest problem I had just wanted to see if I was missing something
[14:16] <junkeR> thanks for your help
[14:16] <ablomen> ok np :)
[15:10] <KobaFoxx> Hi, could anyone help me with a problem I'm having? I just installed Xubuntu on a blue Mac G3. It shows the loading screen, but it blacks out when it should go to the login screen. If it helps, I had to "install=ofonly"
[15:10] <KobaFoxx> *"install video=ofonly"
[16:06] <KobaFoxx> Wow, this channel sucks
[16:54] <gdivos> Hi
[16:55] <gdivos> I have switched from windows to xubuntu yesterday. I have some problems and questions to ask, can I post them into the main channel or should I pm. someone?
[16:56] <stone[no]> Go ahead and post.
[16:57] <gdivos> First I could not install the flash plugin for firefox as a result of some md5 checksum error. Later I have converted the official RPM to DEB
[16:58] <gdivos> It installs and semms ok, but some sites just make firefox close.
[16:59] <gdivos> Its the latest flash plugin,latest firefox and the page that results in a crash is www.electroworld.hu
[16:59] <TheSheep> gdivos: why didn't you just install from the ubuntu repositories?
[16:59] <stone[no]> http://www.getautomatix.com/ or http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ is easier
[17:00] <gdivos> ..moment
[17:00] <TheSheep> !automatix
[17:00] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[17:02] <gdivos> After "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47704/
[17:02] <stone[no]> ubotu: I wasn't aware of that. Thanx for the heads up :)
[17:04] <gdivos> this error is the reason why i didn't use the ubuntu repo
[17:05] <stone[no]> *I don't like bots :)
[17:07] <TheSheep> gdivos: what version of ubuntu again?
[17:07] <gdivos> oh sorry. xubuntu 7.10
[17:07] <gdivos> firefox 2.0.0.11
[17:07] <TheSheep> gdivos: did you do apt-get update?
[17:08] <gdivos> I do it now. moment
[17:08] <gdivos> same error :(
[17:10] <TheSheep> :/
[17:15] <gdivos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/174090
[17:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174090 in flashplugin-nonfree "md5sum error in postinstall for package flashplugin-nonfree (dup-of: 173890)" [Undecided,New]
[17:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install... new version?" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:18] <gdivos> It is possible to bypass the md5 check by editing /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst and doing a dpkg-reconfigure
[17:24] <gdivos> After this it says: Flash Plugin installed. But when I test it, firefox crashes on www.electroworld.hu after 15 seconds. Just like the official RPM package that I converted to .DEB with 'alien'.
[17:36] <Blinkiz> I would like a gui program that can handle rar files. What can you recommend?
[17:40] <aladdinsane> is there any way in how i can change/remove Thunar and its integration in Xubuntu towards lets say Nautilus? And i really mean completely remove it.
[17:42] <Blinkiz> The answer to my own question is to install rar and unrar. The build in archive manager will then be able to deal with rar archives.
[18:05] <gdivos> I can reproduce a flash plugin related crash.
[18:05] <gdivos> If you have Adobe Flash Player 9.0.115.0 (check your version here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/) you can try if your browser crashes on http://www.electroworld.hu/store/binary?id=17119 . It is a stupid flash ad and you have to wait 20 secs before it hangs.
[18:07] <gdivos> It is possible that it happens only to me, yet I want to know whether it is a local problem or not.
[18:09] <zoredache> I can confirm that flash seems very buggy, but we can't really do anything about it
[18:10] <stone[no]> I've got 9.0.48 and it's working....
[18:11] <stone[no]> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/flashplugin-nonfree is ver 9.0.48...
[18:11] <gdivos> it tries to download the .tar.gz file from the official site
[18:12] <gdivos> and it is already 9.0.115
[18:12] <stone[no]> ohh, ok.
[18:12] <gdivos> so thats why it says md5 mismatch
[18:14] <gdivos> So, I can hope Adobe will fix its buggy crap :-/
[18:16] <stone[no]> I've probably got the 9.0.48 tar in my cache. If you want it I can send it.
[18:18] <stone[no]> md5sum: 821cc72359a937caef85bb4cc74ef5cd  install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz - is it the correct one?
[18:39] <Ahmuck> hi.  i want my xubuntu to login automagically
[18:39] <Ahmuck> how do i do that?
[18:40] <evil_tech> Applications-> Settings->Login Window->Security
[18:41] <totalmergeage> isn't that for gnome?
[18:41] <totalmergeage> if so try http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303319
[18:42] <evil_tech> no i just went and looked for it
[18:42] <evil_tech> that is where its at
[18:42] <totalmergeage> :]
[19:23] <SGL> Hello. I have a working Xubuntu installation. Is there a way to reinstall the entire Xubuntu OS from the command-line?
[19:31] <alfredo> who -lusers
[19:33] <RainCT> Hey
[19:33] <RainCT> does Xubuntu use gksudo or has it it's own tool?
[19:35] <SGL> what does gksudo do?
[19:36] <RainCT> SGL: execute something with sudo privilegies, asking the password in a graphical way
[19:37] <SGL> oh. I wouldn't know. I am reinstalling Xubuntu now, so I can find out for you in like half an hour. (really old PC :P)
[19:37] <SGL> I just always use normal sudo
[19:38] <Pumpernickel> It does use gksudo.
[19:38] <RainCT> okay, thanks
[19:38] <SGL> When would you prefer gksudo over sudo?
[19:38] <RainCT> SGL: menu entries
[19:39] <RainCT> :)
[19:39] <SGL> ahhh right
[19:53] <kilonux> hei
[20:01] <Blinkiz> I need to run a program as a specific group. I know I can use the "sg" command but am looking for a tool where I can specify both the user and group. Like "niklas:users". Is it possible?
[20:04] <stone[no]> Blinkiz: Use 'su' in combo with 'sg'
[20:05] <Blinkiz> stone[no]: Yeah, am trying to. But I can't get it to work. It asks me for password everytime I run my own line. Don't know why
[20:05] <stone[no]> su - user -c "sg youcmd"
[20:06] <Blinkiz> stone[no]: Its su -c "sg $group -c command" @user
[20:07] <Blinkiz> stone[no]: Here is the line am trying to run. Am running it as "sudo su" before. su -c "sg users -c rtorrent" niklas
[20:09] <stone[no]> Blinkiz: su - niklas -c "sg users -c torrent" should do the trick...
[20:09] <stone[no]> skip the sudo
[20:09] <stone[no]> You will have to know the password for user niklas though
[20:10] <Blinkiz> yeah, this line will run at startup by root
[20:12] <Blinkiz> stone[no]: If I brake it apart. 'sg users -c rtorrent' works. But 'su "sg users -c rtorrent" niklas' doesn't
[20:12] <Blinkiz> oh, should be 'su -c "sg users -c rtorrent" niklas'
[20:13] <stone[no]> I'm not sure su will accept standard input
[20:13] <stone[no]> to pass the password
[20:14] <stone[no]> the extra '-' will make sure the enviroment for user is used
[20:15] <Blinkiz> ok. Ill give you a more complicated line that works. My goal is to implement the sg command somewhere inside it.
[20:15] <Blinkiz> su -c "screen -S "${srnname}" -X screen rtorrent ${options[i]} 2>&1 1>/dev/null" ${user} | tee -a "$logfile" >&2
[20:15] <Blinkiz> Where to put the sg command?
[20:16] <stone[no]> Blinkiz: That's along one :)  put all that in a bash script and call it with sg...
[20:17] <Blinkiz> Yeah, that's a solution i quess ;)
[20:18] <kilonux> compiz on xubuntu, is that relevant?
[20:18] <stone[no]> Remeber to pass the -d option to screen if your using it in a startup screipt
[20:18] <stone[no]> script
[20:18] <Blinkiz> yeah, it has been done on a line above
[20:22] <shadow-> bonjour
[20:22] <shadow-> vous faites du support ici ou pas ?
[22:36] <patrickneville> hey i installed xfce4 after using ubuntu for a while, and now on my desktop i have duplicates of ever icon, device and such, anyway to fix this?
[23:21] <ipguy> hi all;
[23:22] <ipguy> anyone here running compiz with a intel gma video card ?
[23:22]  * Flare183 is away: Gone away for now.
[23:48] <belinda> anyone around to help out with a display issue?