[00:13] <kmyth> which channel frequency table do i select if i've got a coaxial for cable TV hooked up to a HDhomerun?
[00:22] <nettow0822> hey guys
[00:23] <nettow0822> I'm having a hard disk problem.......
[00:24] <nettow0822> used hitachi ....it says I have a problem.....but no detail
[00:25] <nettow0822> can I use fdisk and a low level formating tool...if so....what would they be?
[00:26] <superm1> nettow0822, if DFT said you have a problem
[00:26] <superm1> then the drive is dying
[00:26] <superm1> go buy a new drive
[00:27] <nettow0822> ok.....the hitachi program wouldn't say what the problem was since the drive is a maxtor
[00:27] <superm1> right
[00:28] <superm1> but it is pretty accurate at determining when a drive is going to kick the bucket soon
[00:28] <nettow0822> ok ty
[00:30] <wilberfan> Anyone remember where the "interlace" and "overscan" (etc) options are in mythbuntu?   I've seen them in the past--but must have spent half-an-hour looking for them this morning...  I've been through every front and backend option...
[00:30] <wilberfan> where are they hiding??
[00:32] <superm1> hit the menu key while in playback
[00:32] <superm1> m
[00:34] <wilberfan> really?   wow.  I'd NEVER have found it that way!   Lemme go try it!  :)
[00:34] <wilberfan> brb
[00:37] <nettow0822> hey superm1.....what would be the best route to take to solve this issue.....
[00:37] <superm1> nettow0822, new drive.
[00:37] <wilberfan> no...that wasn't the one I remember.  The one I'm thinking of had sliders...  And it was on a "blue" screen like the back- and frontend use...  I specifically remember sliding the overscan sliders and watching the screen zoom in and out...
[00:38] <nettow0822> i have two snap stream RF remote controls...one on each system....they both operate on the same channel ID frequency.....
[00:38] <wilberfan> Maybe the screen i'm thinking of is only avail "first time through", or...?
[00:38] <nettow0822> snapstream was no help
[00:38] <nettow0822> is there anybody in linux that I can turn to?
[00:38] <superm1> nettow0822, so they conflict with ech other?
[00:39] <nettow0822> yes....one in the livingroom changes the one in the bedroom
[00:39] <nettow0822> as well as the livingroom
[00:39] <superm1> nettow0822, look and see if there are any parameters for the driver
[00:39] <superm1> at load time
[00:39] <superm1> odds are ther e are some that control frequency
[00:39] <superm1> or at least channel
[00:40] <nettow0822> at lirc?
[00:41] <superm1> for the lirc kernel module in use
[00:47] <kmyth> hrmm im having trouble with the hdhomerun.. it just wont detect.  i've communicated with it and upgraded the firmware but no detection.
[00:48] <kmyth> ah just the guy i needed :) tgm4883
[00:48] <tgm4883> ah, were you waiting for me?
[00:48] <kmyth> well i asked a Q just before you came in.
[00:48] <kmyth> im having trouble with the hdhomerun.. it just wont detect.  i've communicated with it and upgraded the firmware but no detection.
[00:48] <tgm4883> well your probably looking for superm1
[00:49] <tgm4883> FYI, tgm4883_laptop is here too
[00:49] <tgm4883> which is also me
[00:49] <kmyth> i see
[00:49] <tgm4883> so where is it not detecting
[00:49] <superm1> kmyth, try restarting your backend
[00:49] <kmyth> when i go to input connections to scan for channels
[00:49] <kmyth> k
[00:50] <superm1> oh it doesnt scan
[00:50] <superm1> nvm then
[00:50] <superm1> thats a different area
[00:50] <superm1> well in that case, do you have several on your network
[00:50] <kmyth> no just one
[00:50] <superm1> hmm
[00:50] <superm1> you followed the wiki page to set it up?
[00:50] <kmyth> yes
[00:52] <kmyth> it says failed to load card
[00:52] <kmyth> programmer error, see console
[00:52] <kmyth> dont see any errors there
[00:53] <superm1> can you pastebin a whole snippet
[00:53] <superm1> of the console out
[00:53] <superm1> of mythtv-setup
[00:53] <superm1> !pastebin | kmyth
[00:53] <ubotu> kmyth: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:54] <kmyth> sure
[00:56] <kmyth> http://pastebin.com/d7ab0da5e
[00:57] <superm1> kmyth, that includes your running through?
[00:57] <superm1> and trying to scan?
[00:57] <kmyth> yes
[00:57] <kmyth> let me do it again to verify
[00:59] <kmyth> ok it produces those last two lines when i setup the parameters in capture cards
[01:04] <kmyth> got it
[01:04] <kmyth> it decided to work this time
[01:05] <kmyth> i wonder what it uses to determine signal strength and noise ratio
[01:05] <kmyth> i guess my days as a cable monkey payed off, as it's 99% and 0%
[01:08] <Mersault> Why does mythbuntu wait for 60 seconds when trying to mount an nfs drive at boot, then say it failed, but upon inspection it turns out it's mounted just fine?
[01:08] <Mersault> also, my frontend doesn't seem to want to log anything...
[01:09] <kmyth> did you use the recommended mount settings?
[01:10] <Mersault> um, I used the mount settings that have worked for me for years now. and then I went and checked for ubuntu's recommended settngs when these ones started complaining. they seem to be fine.
[01:10] <Mersault> mythbackend:/var/lib/mythtv /var/lib/mythtv nfs rw,hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14 0 0
[01:10] <kmyth> set tcp
[01:10] <Mersault> mythbackend:/var/lib/mythtv on /var/lib/mythtv type nfs (rw,hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,addr=192.168.1.40)
[01:11] <Mersault> when the system finishes booting up and I log in, I find that it has actually mounted it just fine
[01:11] <kmyth> odd
[01:11] <nettow0822> would someone look at this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2625/
[01:11] <Mersault> it just slows the boot phase by 60 seconds
[01:11] <nettow0822> i'm not sure how to enable the channel
[01:12] <Mersault> and no other host on the network has problems with this nfs share. no other host mounts it at boot, but they don't complain about mounting it
[01:12] <kmyth> that would get annoying
[01:12] <Mersault> and when I have to unmount and then remount the share from the frontend, it's fine
[01:12] <kmyth> maybe set a mount line in rc.local and see if it still affects it
[01:12] <kmyth> disable the one in fstab
[01:20] <Mersault> kmyth: that solved it
[01:20] <Mersault> kinda weird, that it would matter, but it did
[01:20] <Mersault> alright, next problem:
[01:20] <Mersault> mythfrontend doesn't want to log anything
[01:21] <Mersault> and I want very detailed logging at times, because it's crashing when I scan my music collection and I want to know why
[01:21] <kmyth> shrug, i'm pretty new to myth
[01:25] <toorima> Mersault: start mythfrontend from terminal
[01:29] <Mersault> also, which package contains the Qt widget bits like keramilk, etc
[01:39] <gig> Hello, I am wondering what the best way to stream livetv/recordings over the internet were
[01:39] <Mersault> kmyth: I was completely wrong. with the mount command in rc.local, it just doesn't get mounted at all
[01:40] <gig> i have a 1mbit/sec upstream that the backend server is behind, but i'd like to only use 512kbit of it
[01:42] <kmyth> ouch
[01:43] <Nightcrlr> can anyone help me with an error mythtv is giving me?
[01:44] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, you will need to disquambobulate the frontend, then restart the backend
 what do you mean? this is the error i'm getting  ----->  "Error was encountered while displaying video"   Back-end-log ---> http://www.pastebin.ca/811007  Front-end-log ---> http://www.pastebin.ca/811010
[01:46] <tgm4883> ah
[01:47] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, that was the best info I could give you based on the information you provided ;)
[01:47] <tgm4883> nm it, it was gibberish
[01:47] <tgm4883> in other words
[01:47] <tgm4883> !ask
[01:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:47] <kmyth> so is there a free alternative to schedulesdirect?
 lol i'm just happy your responed
[01:48] <tgm4883> kmyth, none that are good, unless you live outside the US
[01:48] <Nightcrlr> this channel was dead this morning when i came in
[01:49] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, what tuner?
[01:49] <tgm4883> do other channels work?
 why don't you just purchase sub to schedulesdirect its only 20 bucks plus it helps out the myth guys
 i have digwave tunner
[01:50] <Nightcrlr> i'll get you the model #
[01:50] <Nightcrlr> i have two of them DVB-S
[01:51] <tgm4883> kmyth, seriously, the $20 is well worth it
[01:51] <Nightcrlr> the cards are detected and are working because i was running VDR on them before
[01:51] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, i'm not completely sure how DVB-S works, but is it possible that the channel is now encrypted?
[01:51] <Nightcrlr> yeah paid for it and don't even have my mytv working
[01:51] <Nightcrlr> lol
[01:55] <nettow0822> tgm...help....this william
 my 2 DVB-S cards are Digiwave 103G
[01:57] <tgm4883> nettow0822, whats up?
[01:57] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, i'm not completely sure how DVB-S works, but is it possible that the channel is now encrypted?
[01:58] <nettow0822> I have two of the same remote controls....snapstream firefly RF.....
 if the channel is encrypted is that the error i should get, because it just kicks me out of live tv
[01:59] <nettow0822> they both operate on the same channel frequency.....
[01:59] <nettow0822> I'm trying to set them on different frequencies
[02:00] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, I believe so, it's trying to get the channel, but only getting scrambled data, which is screwing it up
[02:00] <nettow0822> i may have found info to do that but I need alittle help
[02:01] <nettow0822> read this  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2626/
 is there Mythtv channel for user that have dvb-s setups?
[02:02] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, well you could try here with someone that has dvb-s
[02:02] <tgm4883> or you could try in #mythtv-users
[02:03] <tgm4883> nettow0822, ok, so whats the question?
[02:04] <nettow0822> it looks like I need to load a command with the lirc module is loaded
[02:04] <nettow0822> # Loading the lirc_atiusb driver with "unique=1,mask=0x10" makes it recognize only ID 5
 i've tryed mythtv-user but no one has answered me
[02:04] <nettow0822> i'm not sure how to do this
[02:05] <tgm4883> nettow0822, are you still in mythtv-user?
[02:05] <nettow0822> nope
[02:05] <tgm4883> err
[02:05] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, are you still in mythtv-users?
[02:05] <nettow0822> i can be
[02:05] <Nightcrlr> yeah
[02:05] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, ping
[02:05] <foxbuntu> tgm4883hey
[02:06] <foxbuntu> tgm4883 hey*
[02:06] <tgm4883> how are you?
[02:06] <tgm4883> do you know how to # Loading the lirc_atiusb driver with "unique=1,mask=0x10" makes it recognize only ID 5
[02:06] <mythy> In mythbuntu will it work with a FusionHDTV DVB-T Plus?
[02:07] <foxbuntu> tgm4883 ID 5 of what?
[02:07] <mythy> and can I select Composite input rather than the antenna?
[02:07] <nettow0822> foxbuntu see this post http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2626/
[02:07] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, where do you live?
[02:08] <Nightcrlr> I'm in Toronto, Canada
[02:08] <kmyth> tgm4883, agreed.
[02:08] <tgm4883> hmm
[02:09] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, yeah that is a kernel driver mask to give a specific lirc supported remote thus telliing it which part of the lircd.conf to use
[02:09] <tgm4883> i want to say that Daviey has DVB-S, but he's asleep now
[02:09] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, right
[02:09] <tgm4883> but how to do that from a mythbuntu install
[02:09] <foxbuntu> select the name of the remote
[02:09] <foxbuntu> should be in MLG, unless it was added to lirc recently
[02:10] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, i'd say stick around in here for awhile, Daviey is in the UK so it's 2:00 AM there
[02:10] <foxbuntu> I havent finished building the new version of MLG to support all the new remotes added to lirc
[02:10] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, @ nettow0822
[02:10] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, ^^
 ok i've been in this channel and mythtv-user since 4am est
[02:11] <nettow0822> so it is not something I can add to hardware.conf?
[02:11] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, lI am pretty sure that remote is supported by mythbuntu-lircrc-generator, however if it is not, please, and I stress, please file a bug against it so we (I) can track and fix it
[02:12] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, ah, but did you ask your question?
[02:12] <nettow0822> the remote I'm using is snapstream firefly RF remote......it does work....
[02:12] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, that is where you can add it...if you want to set the remote up outside of mlg you are welcome too...mlg just dose the hard stuff
[02:12] <tgm4883> mythy, did you check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Gutsy/Tuners
[02:13] <nettow0822> the problem is that I have two remotes...one for each computer.....they both operate on the same channel ID
[02:13] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, I am pretty sure you can select it via Mythbuntu-Control-Centre under remotes
[02:13] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, oh I gotcha
[02:13] <foxbuntu> missed the problem
[02:14] <foxbuntu> and I assume they are close to each other
[02:14] <foxbuntu> i see
 yeah i did a few times but i don't want to annoy everyone if i'm not getting a answer
[02:14] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, do this
[02:14] <nettow0822> foxbuntu within 40 feet of each other......one in bedroom...other in livingroom
[02:14] <foxbuntu> on the one add the changes to hardware.conf (options for lirc)
[02:14] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr well i'll send a note to Daviey about that, hopefully he will see it in the morning
[02:14] <foxbuntu> then reload lirc
[02:14] <mythy> apparently all Fusion HDTV Tuners work
[02:15] <mythy> but can I get it to switch input to composite input
 did you get my pastebin links?
[02:15] <foxbuntu> copy and paste the pretiant part of the lircd.conf into /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[02:15] <foxbuntu> reload lirc again
[02:15] <mythy> rather than Antenna (DVB)
[02:15] <tgm4883> mythy, thats interesting, this seems to contradict that   DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T Hybrid is broken in Gutsy - Will not tune correctly (Was working in 6.10) -The device shows up, but cannot get tuner to tune
[02:15] <nettow0822> foxbuntu.....is this right? MODULES="lirc_dev lirc_atiusb unique=1,mask=0x10"
[02:16] <foxbuntu> then finally do a sudo mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[02:16] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, no
[02:16] <mythy> I have DVB-T Plus
[02:16] <mythy> not Hyrbid
[02:16] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, hold on let me get the correct syntax for you
[02:16] <nettow0822> ok
[02:16] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, yep, i just made the note
[02:16] <mythy> I don't care so much for watching TV, rather I want to use the composite input into my card
[02:17] <mythy> I have a device outside my PC
[02:17] <tgm4883> mythy, all i can say is try it, i believe it will work
 thank you
[02:17] <mythy> that feeds composite in
[02:17] <mythy> ok thanks
[02:17] <mythy> I'll try :)
[02:17] <tgm4883> mythy, just remember to set it up in mythtv setup to use composite
[02:17] <mythy> I tried installing mythTV on ubuntu but MySQL wouldn't work, and it said that user root isn't allowed to stop the backend services
[02:18] <mythy> I mean I can log into mysql, but I think backend stops you
[02:18] <mythy> (the myth config program)
[02:18] <foxbuntu> MODULES="lirc_atiusb unique=1,mask=0x10"
[02:18] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, ^^ i think thats right
[02:20] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, sorry I have to run but will be back later on tonight
[02:22] <mythy> does mythbuntu come with nvidia drivers?
[02:22] <mythy> I mean, do I have to enable them?
[02:51] <The_Rebel> yo #ubuntu-mythtv
[02:52] <The_Rebel> what build of mythtv is the current stable release using?
[02:53] <josiahw_> hello
[02:53] <josiahw_> anybody on? I am trying to install MythBuntu and was wondering if I could ask some questions.
[02:54] <rhpot1991> you can ask, not sure I can answer
[02:55] <josiahw_> I dont know what I need to do. I am just using this computer as a backend. Do I need to set anything up in the livecd before I install? I do not have the frontend up yet... do I need to set that up first?
[02:56] <rhpot1991> The_Rebel: 0.20.2
[02:56] <rhpot1991> backend first
[02:56] <The_Rebel> okay thanks, rhpot1991
[02:56] <rhpot1991> is the backend on the same machine, or a different one?
[02:56] <The_Rebel> is there anyway i can get my hands on a build with 0.20.0?
[02:56] <rhpot1991> why would you want to?
[02:57] <rhpot1991> you need 0.20.2 for SD
[02:57] <rhpot1991> otherwise you can't get listings
[02:57] <The_Rebel> what if i dont care about SD?
[02:57] <rhpot1991> well there are other fixes too
[02:57] <rhpot1991> its not like you need to use SD with it
[02:58] <josiahw_> I just want the backend on this computer... the frontend will be going on an appletv
[02:58] <rhpot1991> good luck with that
[02:58] <The_Rebel> exactly, anyways is there a way to downgrade to .20 or maybe there's an older build floating around
[02:58] <rhpot1991> has the install on there become any easier?
[02:58] <rhpot1991> might be
[02:58] <rhpot1991> I don't know where to look though
[02:59] <tgm4883> The_Rebel, is there a reason for you wanting 20.0?
[02:59] <josiahw_> its fairly simple to setup the appletv now
[02:59] <josiahw_> http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/MythTV
[02:59] <The_Rebel> i found a north american DVB patch set
[02:59] <The_Rebel> but its for myth .20
[02:59] <tgm4883> ah
[02:59] <josiahw_> I am installing from the 20.2 image.... should I be using 20 instead?
[02:59] <josiahw_> is there something wrong with using 20.2?
[02:59] <tgm4883> josiahw_, no, use 20.2
[03:00] <tgm4883> The_Rebel, sec
[03:00] <The_Rebel> kk
[03:00] <rhpot1991> The_Rebel: are you certain it wont work with 20.2?
[03:00] <josiahw_> ok... so anyway. Do I need to do anything from the live cd before installing mythbuntu?
[03:01] <The_Rebel> no.. but for stability reasons, im trying to keep things as clean as possible
[03:01] <tgm4883> The_Rebel, well the thing is, the only thing i can find is the edgy version here
[03:01] <tgm4883> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/mythtv
[03:02] <The_Rebel> thanks, i'll check her out
[03:02] <rhpot1991> tgm4883 I thought SD happened before edgy was gone
[03:02] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, it did
[03:02] <tgm4883> but you have to remember how ubuntu works
[03:03] <rhpot1991> I was about to past the link to those, but I thought they were also .20.2
[03:03] <josiahw_> Do I need to do anything in the Mythbuntu control center before installing mythbuntu?
[03:03] <tgm4883> packages don't get updated, once the repo is frozen, it is frozen
[03:03] <tgm4883> then, newer versions go into -backports
[03:03] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[03:05] <nettow0822_> back
[03:06] <The_Rebel> so if i went with edgy and installed mythtv from there i should be using 0.20.0?
[03:07] <tgm4883> The_Rebel, well you would, but you would obviously lose the support that is built into feisty and gutsy
[03:07] <tgm4883> and obviously support would run out earlier
[03:07] <tgm4883> and you would have less of a chance for support here
[03:08] <The_Rebel> is SD free?
[03:09] <tgm4883> $20/year
[03:09] <The_Rebel> thats a bit pricey for raw data
[03:09] <tgm4883> not really
[03:10] <tgm4883> it's pretty good data
[03:10] <The_Rebel> i'd pay that much for non-raw data, but raw data! pfft forget about it
[03:10] <tgm4883> you wouldn't pay < $2/month?
[03:11] <The_Rebel> i could feed a couple of Chinese kids with that kinda dough
[03:11] <tgm4883> dude, whatever floats your boat
[03:12] <The_Rebel> ha im just screwin with ya, but in all seriousness thanks for the help
[03:12] <The_Rebel> i best think this over
[03:12] <nettow0822_> hey tgm4883
[03:13] <nettow0822_> when I add this to the hardware.conf ....MODULES="lirc_atiusb unique=1,mask=0x10"
[03:13] <nettow0822_> lirc won't start
[03:14] <rhpot1991> The_Rebel: write your own scraper if you don't like it, thats about your only other choice
[03:15] <nettow0822_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2627/
[03:15] <The_Rebel> nah i'd pay for SD, thinking about what version of mythtv/ubuntu is right for me
[03:15] <The_Rebel> gonna have to do some more research on the subject
[03:19] <The_Rebel> is it easy to update to a SVN version of myth with MB? (mythbuntu)
[03:19] <rhpot1991> there are repos listed on the mythbuntu site
[03:20] <tgm4883> http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[03:21] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: any idea if there is any way I can cause a script to run when someone starts watching a recording?
[03:22] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, probably
[03:22] <rhpot1991> any idea, I looked around in the menus, no options
[03:22] <rhpot1991> I searched the user mailing list for a while today, didn't see anything
[03:22] <tgm4883> oh no, you're probably going to have to hack something to do that
[03:23] <rhpot1991> I'm looking to make a script run to check how many commercials were flagged and then alert via mythosd if it doesn't match for certain shows
[03:23] <rhpot1991> I'm not locked on mythosd, but that seemed to be the best way to go about it
[03:26] <rhpot1991> are the menu's hackable or are they something precompiled?
[03:26] <tgm4883> well you can change the menus
[03:27] <rhpot1991> I was looking for something that wont get overwritten by an update
[03:46] <josiahw_> on a mythbuntu backend would i have any need for the silicon dust hdhomerun configuration utility?
[03:46] <josiahw_> and should I install xmltv guide data provider... even if i am in north america
[03:50] <nettow0822_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2628/
[03:51] <nettow0822_> tgn4883 is this the right syntax for this command in hardware.conf....
[03:52] <nettow0822_> MODULES="lirc_atiusb unique=1,mask=0x10"
[03:53] <josiahw_> do i have to have cable or satelite tv to setup mythtv? I dont have that yet but will later... i am wanting to setup mythtv at the moment for other reasons
[03:54] <josiahw_> anybody?
[03:54] <foxbuntu> josiahw_, no
[03:55] <josiahw_> foxbuntu: thank you
[03:56] <nettow0822_> foxbuntu...you back
[03:56] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, perhaps :)
[03:56] <nettow0822_> lol
[03:56] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, so what did you figure out?
[03:56] <nettow0822_> I put this line in hardware.conf... MODULES="lirc_atiusb unique=1,mask=0x10"
[03:56] <nettow0822_> and lirc will not start
[03:57] <nettow0822_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2627/
[03:58] <nettow0822_> here is some more info.... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2628/
[03:59] <nettow0822_> yet more info..  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2626/
[04:00] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, give me a few to catch up to you here
[04:00] <nettow0822_> sure
[04:01] <The_Rebel> i found update patch sets for the latest SVN
[04:01] <The_Rebel> that should do it
[04:05] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, sorry I had you set that in the wron location
[04:05] <foxbuntu> pull those settings back out of the hardware.conf
[04:05] <foxbuntu> instead
[04:05] <josiahw_> do I want to use NTSC as my TV format if im in America with a HDTV using HDMI?
[04:05] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, we need to add them into /etc/modules.conf
[04:06] <foxbuntu> josiahw_, NTSC is SD TV
[04:06] <foxbuntu> ATSC is HD
[04:06] <foxbuntu> but if ATSC isn't in the list pick NTSC
[04:06] <josiahw_> thank you again :)... should I set up a VBI format or just leave it as none?
[04:07] <foxbuntu> leave it as none
[04:07] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, do you have changes to the hardware.conf made?
[04:07] <josiahw_> I am using satelite tv.... do I want to choose us-bcast for channel frequency table?
[04:08] <nettow0822_> yes hardware.conf changed back
[04:08] <foxbuntu> josiahw_, I tihnk there is a us-sat or something...if not pick cable
[04:08] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, ok
[04:08] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, $ sudo nano /etc/modules.conf
[04:09] <nettow0822_> ok
[04:09] <foxbuntu> oops
[04:10] <foxbuntu> no .conf
[04:10] <foxbuntu> just
[04:10] <foxbuntu> $ sudo nano /etc/modules
[04:10] <nettow0822_> ok
[04:10] <josiahw_> us-cable-hrs, us-cable-irc or us-cable?
[04:10] <foxbuntu> josiahw_, us-cable
[04:11] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, ok add this:  Options lirc_atiusb mask = 0x0010
[04:12] <foxbuntu> josiahw_, I think this should make the kernel module load with that (at least thats the doc I found)
[04:12] <foxbuntu> er nettow0822_ ^^
[04:12] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, reboot after you save that and check back with me after
[04:13] <josiahw_> ok
[04:13] <nettow0822_> Options lirc_atiusb mask = 0x0010 or this Options lirc_atiusb unique=1,mask = 0x0010
[04:14] <nettow0822_> unique is suppose to allow for differnet channels right?
[04:14] <nettow0822_> mask sets the channel
[04:14] <foxbuntu> nettow0822_, right...sorry
[04:15] <nettow0822_> ok
[04:22] <icemario>  hey, I try to watch TV but mythtv frontend says: MythTV is already using all available inputs for the channel you selected. If you want to watch an in-progress recording, select one from the playback menu.  If you want to watch live tv, cancel one of the in-progress recordings from the delete menu.  I have composite set as input, but I can't see my Wii screen...
[04:22] <icemario> it says no channels.conf found
[04:23] <icemario> but I want to play wii through the composite
[04:23] <nettow0822> back
[04:24] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, anyluck?
[04:24] <nettow0822> foxbuntu how can I monitor the change...other than the remote?
[04:24] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, the remote is the easiest?
[04:24] <foxbuntu> -?
[04:25] <nettow0822> well both remotes still work
[04:25] <nettow0822> one remote is set to channel 5 the other is channel 8
[04:25] <foxbuntu> thats what you were looking for then right?
[04:26] <nettow0822> only one remote work with one computer.....both remotes still work on this computer
[04:26] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, well to an extent they will..due to the remote signals being similar
[04:27] <nettow0822> my understanding is that the process we just went through should have separated the remotes
[04:28] <foxbuntu> post your lircd then
[04:29] <nettow0822> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2629/
[04:59] <nettow0822> I just made a test lircd.conf...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2630/
[04:59] <nettow0822> both of them still work on the same computer
[05:02] <foxbuntu> nettow0822, prob becuase they both send the same ir hex codes
[05:03] <nettow0822> well the remote has the ability to be setup on 16 different channels and...
[05:04] <nettow0822> the lirc module also has the ability to be setup to the corresponding channel....
[05:05] <nettow0822> thus I should be able setup both remotes to operate independently from each other
[05:06] <foxbuntu> but on the different ir channels does the remote actually produce different hex codes
[05:06] <foxbuntu> idk much about that remote
[05:07] <nettow0822> i may have to email the people that have supplied the examples
[05:07] <foxbuntu> might be the best chance
[05:08] <nettow0822> snapstream says the remotes will operate independently
[05:08] <foxbuntu> I know quite abit about lirc, but not the remotes
[05:08] <nettow0822> ok ty for your help...bedtime here 12:08
[08:44] <debiano778> hi all anyone have install mythbuntu with ATI RADEON X1600 pro HDMI?
[14:30] <rhpot1991> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203200158&adid=17653&dcaid=17653
[14:31] <directhex|bsp> experiemntal driver support only
[14:32] <rhpot1991> I figured
[14:32] <directhex|bsp> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950
[14:33] <tgm4883> Nightcrlr, ping
[14:33] <rhpot1991> I see words about it working in the list, but breaking pci hauppauge cards in the process
[14:34] <rhpot1991> also these posts are old (january)
[14:50] <LotharTBL> good day all. Anyone have any luck with a static IP for their mythbuntu master backend?
[14:50] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: you can do that in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:51] <rhpot1991> though there may be easier gui methods of doing so
[14:51] <LotharTBL> I did it but it screwed up everything, ie mysql
[14:52] <LotharTBL> I was considering just doing an alais to the other ip to the same interface?
[14:52] <rhpot1991> how did it screw mysql up?
[14:52] <LotharTBL> couldn't attach from the front end
[14:52] <rhpot1991> you prob have to go and change the otherbackends to look at the new ip
[14:53] <rhpot1991> and are they able to connect to it otherwise?
[14:53] <LotharTBL> I read on forums about swapping out to a static IP can do that
[14:53] <rhpot1991> IE do you have mysql configured properly
[14:53] <LotharTBL> all kinds of bad things happened. Couldn't get mythfillbackend to update either
[14:53] <rhpot1991> you can prob modify the ip in mysql tables yourself to point at the right one if thats the problem
[14:53] <LotharTBL> well its a static ie stock install
[14:54] <LotharTBL> I am doing the easy thing... reinstalling lol
[14:54] <LotharTBL> gives me time to reflect read and work it out
[14:54] <rhpot1991> s/easy/time consuming/
[14:54] <LotharTBL> I am on vacation and enjoy a project, how can you learn with no goal in site?
[14:54] <rhpot1991> I'd install phpmyadmin and just modify the sql
[14:55] <directhex|bsp> the database is set by hostname, not ip
[14:55] <LotharTBL> I am installing the stock mythbuntu 7.01 distro (tried mythdora for 2 days and have decided I like ubuntu more, besides, fedora puts things in odd spots)
[14:56] <LotharTBL> not ip?
[14:56] <LotharTBL> totaly host name?
[14:56] <rhpot1991> directhex|bsp: what happens if you don't put in a host name but put in an IP?
[14:56] <LotharTBL> Doh! yes I am an idiot
[14:56] <LotharTBL> you get a failure
[14:56] <LotharTBL> when you run the test from the front end
[14:57] <directhex|bsp> changing to static ip, as well as /etc/network/interfaces, you need to ensure you change the following to match: /etc/hosts, ensure mysql isn't binding on the loopback address only, and in mythtv-setup you tell it the ip of the backend is the new static address, not loopback
[14:57] <LotharTBL> might have been due to my ip problems, but if you stick an IP in there it will fail
[14:57] <sebrock> must a remote have the corresponding ir blaster?
[14:57] <directhex|bsp> settings are stored on a per-hostname basis
[14:57] <sebrock> or can I use a PVR-1500 remote with the Soundgraph IR?
[14:58] <LotharTBL> ok time to go check the install, be back when I screw it up again. WHo said linux wasn't fun?
[14:59] <rhpot1991> hmmm I stand corrected, I see hostnames in the capturecard table
[14:59] <rhpot1991> I find that kinda strange as I told mythtv the IP of the boxes IIRC
[15:04] <sebrock> does anyone know this?
[15:04] <sebrock> Is it necessary to use the IR blaster that came with the remote?=
[15:05] <directhex|bsp> do you need to use an ir blaster?
[15:05] <sebrock> Maybe I talk nonsense here, let me explain
[15:06] <rhpot1991> I think he means ir receiver
[15:06] <rhpot1991> wants to use a different remote with a different receiver
[15:06] <sebrock> I have a case that came with Soundgraph iMON PAD, but it doesnt work very well with the pad. However I also have a PVR-500 and it included a MCE remote
[15:06] <sebrock> rhpot1991, you are right
[15:06] <sebrock> I ment reciever
[15:06] <rhpot1991> might be hit or miss
[15:07] <sebrock> what do you mean?
[15:07] <rhpot1991> might work might not, depends if that receiver can see the signals
[15:07] <rhpot1991> I'd think if you set it up correctly it should
[15:07] <sebrock> sure
[15:07] <rhpot1991> but stranger things have happened
[15:07] <sebrock> ok, how would I go about to try this?
[15:08] <sebrock> what is you intuitive first thought? no?
[15:08] <rhpot1991> I'd set up the receiver first, then make a lircrc for the remote you have
[15:08] <rhpot1991> well actually irw should report if it sees things before you even have the lircrc done
[15:09] <sebrock> irw doesnt give anything right now but I might have made wrong config
[15:09] <sebrock> irw
[15:10] <rhpot1991> did you select the receiver when you set it up?
[15:10] <sebrock> I actually got a receiver with the remote aswell... but then Ihave to open the case and exchange it
[15:10] <sebrock> no basically I have to do it all from scratch I think
[15:10] <sebrock> been messing around with the imon pad
[15:11] <sebrock> I have lirc installed
[15:11] <rhpot1991> hmmmm
[15:11] <sebrock> How do I change the config?
[15:11] <rhpot1991> what remote are you trying to use?
[15:12] <sebrock> MCE remote
[15:12] <sebrock> the Philips one
[15:14] <rhpot1991> I'd install the snapstream but then go ahead and use a mce lircd.config
[15:14] <rhpot1991> err,imon pad
[15:14] <sebrock> I need this also: lirc_mceusb2
[15:14] <rhpot1991> well that is for the receiver
[15:14] <rhpot1991> not the remote
[15:15] <rhpot1991> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=lircd.conf.mceusb
[15:15] <rhpot1991> you can try using that
[15:15] <rhpot1991> then restart lirc and try out irw
[15:15] <rhpot1991> and prey
[15:15] <rhpot1991> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[15:15] <rhpot1991> that describes how to setup by hand
[15:15] <rhpot1991> might be helpful
[15:16] <LotharTBL> almost finished installing, just running the mythfilldatabase then a reboot and hopefully TV
[15:16] <sebrock> i dont think it works
[15:20] <rhpot1991> you will have to ask someone who knows more about both of those then, I don't have either
[15:21] <sebrock> hmm...
[15:22] <sebrock> yeah
[15:23] <sebrock> I think I'll have to remove the imon receiver and install this one instead
[15:23] <sebrock> imon pad just does not want to work correctly
[15:38] <rhpot1991> is there any advantage to letting jobs run on a different host than they recorded on?
[15:51] <LotharTBL> ok nothing works! lol
[15:52] <LotharTBL> I have the backend running and can't seem to get the front end (on another computer) to attach
[15:54] <rhpot1991> check your logs /var/log/mythtv/
[15:54] <LotharTBL> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2635/
[15:55] <LotharTBL> ok just showing the back end is running let me check the log real fast
[15:55] <rhpot1991> when setting up from scratch you have to tell your backend to use your viewable IP, not 127.0.0.1
[15:55] <rhpot1991> and you have to make sure that mysql is viewable across your network too
[15:55] <rhpot1991> I dunno how much of that mythbuntu takes care of for you
[15:56] <LotharTBL> ok I have a real IP in ther enot the loopback ip
[15:56] <LotharTBL> how do I let mysql be viewable?
[15:58] <LotharTBL> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2636/ my log file
[15:58] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, it's done by activating the mysql service via MCC
[15:58] <rhpot1991> is your frontend on the same machine as your backend?
[15:59] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, no it's not
[15:59] <rhpot1991> tgm4883 that makes sense, I thought I used to do that in /etc/mysql/my.conf but it doesn't match up what is in my brain now
 I have the backend running and can't seem to get the front end (on another computer) to attach
[15:59] <rhpot1991> thats what I thought
[15:59] <rhpot1991> but I see words about localhost in his logs
[15:59] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, it used to be done that way, but it's much easier this way :)
[15:59] <LotharTBL> no the front end is on another machine
[16:00] <LotharTBL> its running the live CD
[16:00] <rhpot1991> is that log from your backend or your frontend?
[16:00] <rhpot1991> backend I take it
[16:02] <rhpot1991> try to connect with your frontend, then get the mythfrontend logs from there
[16:02] <LotharTBL> its the backend log
[16:02] <rhpot1991> thats where the error will be
[16:02] <LotharTBL> ok give me a sec
[16:02] <LotharTBL> I keep failing the test in the 1st screen
[16:03] <rhpot1991> tgm4883 I always love it when I go to look up how I did something for reference and the pain in the ass method I had to go through is no longer in use and I am confused as to why my machine is still running
[16:03] <tgm4883> it's evolution :)
[16:03] <rhpot1991> fire up a terminal and check the logs
[16:03] <LotharTBL> no log file as I have never actually started it
[16:03] <tgm4883> LotharTBL, what test?
[16:03] <rhpot1991> hmmm, tgm4883 live cd doesn't make logs?
[16:04] <LotharTBL> ok  with mythbuntu when you start from the live cd
[16:04] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, afaik, i dont know
[16:04] <rhpot1991> its prob failing before its even launching the frontend
[16:04] <LotharTBL> the 1st screen has a test to see if you can connect
[16:04] <LotharTBL> exactly
[16:04] <tgm4883> ah
[16:04] <tgm4883> sounds like the mysql test
[16:04] <rhpot1991> when I messed with the live cd the other day I had that happen and it was something painfully obvious
[16:05] <rhpot1991> but I forget what now, I spend a while messing with mysql privs and that wasn't it
[16:05] <LotharTBL> ok 1st is asks for mysql Mythtv user
[16:05] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL:  are you sure the username/password/ip and all that is correct?
[16:05] <LotharTBL> I think its mythtv by default yes?
[16:06] <tgm4883> yes
[16:06] <LotharTBL> then it asks for the Mysql Mythtv Password (the one I selected when I configured the backend)
[16:06] <tgm4883> wrong
[16:06] <rhpot1991> he is entering his user password, not mysql
[16:06] <LotharTBL> then it asks for the Mythtv database mythconverg by default
[16:06] <tgm4883> the mysql password is not the same as your user password
[16:06] <tgm4883> sec
[16:06] <rhpot1991> thats stored in a file in your home dir, I think
[16:06] <LotharTBL> which pw should I be using?
[16:07] <tgm4883> your mysql password is stored on your backend in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[16:07] <LotharTBL> ah ok in etc/myth/mythsql.txt
[16:07] <LotharTBL> give a sec
[16:08] <LotharTBL> ok one problem I think is...DBHostName=localhost
[16:09] <rhpot1991> that should be the ip of the backend
[16:09] <LotharTBL> should be something else like an ip or the server name?
[16:09] <LotharTBL> do I change it in the file or somewhere else?
[16:09] <rhpot1991> isn't there a spot for that on the test?
[16:09] <tgm4883> don't change the file, just grab the password
[16:09] <rhpot1991> or are you referring to somewhere else?
[16:10] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, the test is on the frontend, and therefor cannot change the backend info (especially since it cannot connect)
[16:10] <LotharTBL> I got the password
[16:10] <rhpot1991> there is a spot on the frontend to point at the ip of the backend is what I am referring to
[16:11] <LotharTBL> what do I place in the MySQL Server?
[16:11] <LotharTBL> the ip?
[16:11] <LotharTBL> or the server name?
[16:11] <tgm4883> ip
[16:12] <LotharTBL> still failing the connection
[16:12] <rhpot1991> can it ping that ip?
[16:13] <LotharTBL> yep
[16:13] <LotharTBL> just pinged it
[16:13] <rhpot1991> try to connect to mysql via cli
[16:13] <LotharTBL> not sure how to connect from the cmd line
[16:13] <LotharTBL> is the user mythtv correct?
[16:14] <rhpot1991> let me look up how to hit a different server
[16:14] <rhpot1991> I believe so
[16:14] <tgm4883> LotharTBL, did you activate the mysql service in MCC?
[16:15] <LotharTBL> not sure grep what from ps ax to see?
[16:16] <LotharTBL> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2638/
[16:17] <rhpot1991> mysql -h <HOST> -u<USER> -p
[16:17] <rhpot1991> should prompt you for a password
[16:18] <rhpot1991> fire up MCC and check it
[16:18] <LotharTBL> host = ip user = mythtv
[16:18] <rhpot1991> yep
[16:19] <sebrock> superm1, I have managed to get contact with the remote now
[16:19] <sebrock> however, its very occational... Like one in 100 tries
[16:21] <sebrock> Thing is, the PAD works more or less like a mouse in Windows, thus generatin a lot of hex codes. This config only has one hex code for every arrow (up,down etc). It's very hard to hit right
[16:21] <LotharTBL> ok when I did mysql -h 192.168.x.x  -umythtv  -p   it prompted me for a password
[16:21] <rhpot1991> enter the password you got from the text file
[16:21] <LotharTBL> I entered the one in the mysql text file and got access denied
[16:21] <tgm4883> as you should
[16:22] <LotharTBL> so the server is up and running?
[16:22] <tgm4883> try it again, leave the password blank this time
[16:22] <rhpot1991> tgm4883 why should he have?
[16:22] <LotharTBL> no password gets an access denied for password=no with password access denied for password =yes
[16:23] <rhpot1991> did you check the service in MCC?
[16:23] <LotharTBL> not sure what MCC is?
[16:23] <rhpot1991> mythbuntu control centre
[16:23] <LotharTBL> I am running on the server with a terminal shell, can I check in there?
[16:24] <LotharTBL> otherwise I need to go downstairs lol
[16:24] <rhpot1991> not so much
[16:24] <tgm4883> LotharTBL, are you sshed in?
[16:24] <LotharTBL> yes
[16:24] <tgm4883> if you ssh in like this "ssh backendip -X -Y"
[16:24] <tgm4883> then you can run mythbuntu-control-centre
[16:25] <LotharTBL> lol.. need to be in X to do that and I think its just ssh -XY to get a trusted session. just a sec, I can do that from the frontend machine
[16:25] <rhpot1991> I thought you had to enable x forwarding on the server, that it was off by default
[16:25] <tgm4883> heh, yea.  Not sure about the -XY as i have always used it seperate
[16:26] <sebrock> right...
[16:26] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, could be, it's been a long time since i set it up, but worth a try
[16:26] <rhpot1991> tgm4883 why did you expect the mysql with the password to fail?
[16:26] <LotharTBL> yep -XY works fine
[16:26] <LotharTBL> run mythtv-setup?
[16:27] <rhpot1991> been a while since I set it up too, guess its on by default now
[16:27] <rhpot1991> mythbuntu-control-centre
[16:27] <tgm4883> LotharTBL, ^^
[16:27] <rhpot1991> I would have expected it to work if his mysql was accepting remote connections
[16:28] <LotharTBL> command not found lol
[16:29] <rhpot1991> apt-get install it
[16:29] <rhpot1991> also check your spelling, and mine
[16:29] <tgm4883> LotharTBL, is this a mythbuntu install or a ubuntu install?
[16:29] <LotharTBL> its mythbuntu 7.01
[16:30] <tgm4883> MCC is installed by default
[16:30] <LotharTBL> lol can't find package mythbuntu-control-center
[16:30] <rhpot1991> on a backend only?
[16:30] <tgm4883> centre
[16:30] <tgm4883> notice the spelling
[16:30] <LotharTBL> ah
[16:30] <tgm4883> I blame Daviey
[16:30] <rhpot1991> is that a british thing?
[16:30] <tgm4883> yes
[16:30] <rhpot1991> I figured
[16:30] <Daviey> tgm4883: fu
[16:31] <tgm4883> :)
[16:31] <rhpot1991> haha
[16:31] <LotharTBL> yes damned flat tyre!
[16:31] <LotharTBL> ok its up and running
[16:31] <LotharTBL> what am I looking at?
[16:31] <tgm4883> under system services
[16:31] <tgm4883> the mysql service
[16:32] <tgm4883> what is it's status
[16:32] <sebrock> right superm1, I got it now. However, the hex codes that are patched in the lirc-modules-source are wrong. Contact me and I'll give you the correct ones. Or at least the new ones, Soundgraph made som changes maybe=
[16:32] <LotharTBL> mysql is enabled
[16:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:32] <LotharTBL> however...
[16:33] <LotharTBL> under the mythtv config it shows the MysqlServer as local host
[16:33] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, you were right about the mysql connection thing
[16:33] <LotharTBL> its greyed out. need to re-run mythtvsetup I think
[16:33] <tgm4883> yes, rerun mythtv-setup with the correct info
[16:35] <LotharTBL> prescaling of images takes forever!
[16:36] <LotharTBL> **starts to read war and peace**
[16:38] <LotharTBL> no where in the setup do I get the option to make changes to mysql
[16:40] <tgm4883> what do you have under the first screen under general?
[16:40] <LotharTBL> has to be a config file somewhere that I can change witht he local host to the IP
[16:40] <LotharTBL> give a sec, just ran it to add a couple of things
[16:40] <LotharTBL> my local IP x 2 with the static ports to listen to
[16:41] <LotharTBL> same IP in both places
[16:41] <tgm4883> so you have 192.x.x.x right?
[16:41] <LotharTBL> yes
[16:41] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:41] <LotharTBL> lazy standard internal ip
[16:42] <LotharTBL> however in the mysql.txt file it shows the thing as localhost
[16:42] <LotharTBL> not the ip. Will changing it in that text file make any diff?
[16:42] <tgm4883> doubt it
[16:42] <tgm4883> mine is the same
[16:42] <LotharTBL> same here
[16:42] <LotharTBL> somewhere in mysql it dosn't have the local ip it needs to allow me in
[16:43] <tgm4883> by any chance did you add firewall rules to the backend?
[16:43] <LotharTBL> damn Mysql to the firey pits of hell! Ok I'm over it now
[16:43] <tgm4883> or install firestarter
[16:43] <LotharTBL> not that I know of. Just installed it off the disk. picked default answers to anything I didn't specificaly know
[16:45] <tgm4883> and they are on the same subnet, correct?
[16:45] <LotharTBL> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2642/
[16:45] <LotharTBL> there is my ps ax what is running on the machine
[16:46] <LotharTBL> yes all on the same class C net
[16:46] <LotharTBL> I can ssh into out of any ot them and they all have net
[16:46] <tgm4883> static or dynamic ip address?
[16:47] <tgm4883> on the backend
[16:47] <LotharTBL> unfortunately dynamic
[16:47] <LotharTBL> when I start setting things to static bad things happen
[16:48] <tgm4883> k
[16:48] <LotharTBL> last time I installed when I switched to static I lost net
[16:48] <tgm4883> yea, bad things do happen with static ip addresses
[16:48] <LotharTBL> I had the correct interface items and resolv info
[16:48] <LotharTBL> just didn't want to work
[16:48] <tgm4883> has this install ever had a static ip?
[16:48] <LotharTBL> no
[16:49] <LotharTBL> I just installed it
[16:49] <tgm4883> k
[16:49] <LotharTBL> I was going to try and bind a static IP to a virtual device, but that is for later when things are working
[16:49] <rhpot1991> maybe a permissions problem with mythtv user from other hosts?
[16:49] <LotharTBL> unknown. I haven't played with any permissions
[16:50] <LotharTBL> by default shouldn't mythtv user have access to mythtv?
[16:50] <tgm4883> !bug 156087 | rhpot1991
[16:50] <tgm4883> oooooook
[16:50] <tgm4883> so ubotu doesn't want to work
[16:50] <tgm4883> bug 156087
[16:50] <LotharTBL> hahahah
[16:50] <tgm4883> ok, well that doesn't apply to this situation
[16:51] <tgm4883> but it does apply to static ip addresses
[16:51] <tgm4883> so FYI
[16:51] <LotharTBL> I read the bug about static IPs, that is how I screwed the last install
[16:51] <LotharTBL> which is why I re-installed. DId a mythdora install, worse problems there
[16:51] <LotharTBL> so back to mythbuntu
[16:52] <LotharTBL> is there some sort of control I can run on mysqlserver to allow mythtv user access?
[16:52] <LotharTBL> mysqlpasswd?
[16:53] <tgm4883> whats strange, is that you should be able to login from the command line with the password from the mysql.txt file
[16:54] <tgm4883> all things are pointing to a messed up mysql install
[16:54] <rhpot1991> locally he should be able to
[16:54] <rhpot1991> remotely he should't if thats the problem
[16:54] <tgm4883> true
[16:54] <LotharTBL> well..its a stock install, I really had very little interaction with mysql
[16:54] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, but thats not the problem
[16:54] <tgm4883> as he was able to get the password prompt remotly
[16:55] <tgm4883> which indicates that it is listening on the correct port
[16:55] <rhpot1991> I think thats the client though
[16:55] <rhpot1991> when you use -p it will automagically prompt you, I think
[16:56] <tgm4883> yep your right
[16:56] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: do you have apache or anything running on that backend
[16:56] <LotharTBL> apache is running yes
[16:56] <LotharTBL> also part of the stock install
[16:56] <tgm4883> LotharTBL, can you log in locally to the mysql server on the backend?
[16:56] <LotharTBL> locally as in on the machine? ot thru an ssh session?
[16:56] <rhpot1991> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[16:57] <rhpot1991> through an ssh session is the same as locally
[16:57] <LotharTBL> yes my thoughts exactly. I can also run thru VNC
[16:58] <LotharTBL> isn't phpmyadmin part of the stock install?
[16:58] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[16:59] <LotharTBL> installing now
[17:00] <LotharTBL> I'm pretty sure apache2 on the install?
[17:01] <Daviey> Hmm, does DVD playback work?
[17:01] <Daviey> i've never tried it
[17:01] <tgm4883> Daviey, are you talking to yourself?
[17:02] <Daviey> no
[17:02] <Daviey> in myhthbuntu, out of the box
[17:02] <rhpot1991> except with sony ARccOS discs, grrrrrrrrr
[17:03] <Daviey> it does then?
[17:03] <rhpot1991> on my system they fail when playing or ripping
[17:03] <tgm4883> dvd playback works out of the box
[17:03] <tgm4883> encrypted dvd playback does not work out of the box
[17:04] <tgm4883> wait
[17:04] <tgm4883> encrypted dvd playback does not work out of the box*
[17:04] <tgm4883> dvd playback works out of the box*
[17:04] <rhpot1991> sony introduced random garbage as an attempt to stop hacking, and made it fail on computers and new dvd players
[17:04] <tgm4883> * Must have a dvd drive
[17:04] <rhpot1991> *Must have a dvd
[17:04] <tgm4883> *Must put dvd in dvd drive
[17:05] <tgm4883> * Must take disk out of dvd drive, flip over so shiny side down, and reinsert into dvd drive
[17:05] <rhpot1991> I always wanted to soldier an ide cable to a CDr and try to sell it on ebay as an ipod CD adapter
[17:05] <rhpot1991> for some reason this is reminding me of it
[17:05] <rhpot1991> though I would just melt the CDr, don't know why I never thought of that before
[17:06] <rhpot1991> work is productive today
[17:08] <LotharTBL> ok all installed now what?
[17:09] <rhpot1991> http:yourip/phpmyadmin
[17:37] <LotharTBL> well that was no fun
[17:37] <LotharTBL> locked up hard for some reason
[17:37] <LotharTBL> anyhow..
[17:38] <LotharTBL> ok I have phpmyadmin installed
[17:40] <LotharTBL> ah well no longer an interesting problem to solve?
[17:51] <rhpot1991> log in, and then there is a link for privleges
[17:52] <rhpot1991> I have a mythtv user and % host (any)
[17:52] <rhpot1991> but I am also firewalled, so you don't want to do that on a web facing box
[17:52] <rhpot1991> brb lunch
[18:03] <LotharTBL> rats.. ok log in how?
[18:27] <rhpot1991> kind of back
[18:27] <rhpot1991> were you able to add a user?
[18:31] <LotharTBL> ok still trying to get phpmyadmin to work!
[18:31] <LotharTBL> got it all installed then frikin firefox says it needs helpers to work
[18:32] <LotharTBL> well its the stock firefox that comes with mythbuntu can't add extensions etc
[18:32] <LotharTBL> so I am in the process of upgrading as I type
[18:32] <LotharTBL> I do however have mythweb working, so I know the database is there and works
[18:32] <rhpot1991> what kind of helpers?
[18:32] <LotharTBL> very nice app, can't wait to use it on my TV
[18:33] <LotharTBL> the helper app that allows it to run php I suppose?
[18:33] <rhpot1991> well ya, the db works locally, but you need permissions for your frontend to access it from the remote machine
[18:33] <rhpot1991> hmmm, I've seen that before
[18:33] <rhpot1991> its a problem on the server not fx
[18:33] <rhpot1991> I'll be damned if I can remember how to fix it though
[18:33] <rhpot1991> would it do any harm restarting your backend?
[18:33] <LotharTBL> I get an error from firefox when I try to open /file://user/share/phpmyadmin.php I get the error
[18:34] <rhpot1991> oh wait
[18:34] <rhpot1991> its not the same one I thought about
[18:34] <LotharTBL> not at all, let me wait till the upgrade is done though
[18:34] <rhpot1991> ya don't restart it now
[18:34] <LotharTBL> lol
[18:34] <rhpot1991> I was thinking it was the problem where fx is trying to download the .php files
[18:34] <LotharTBL> I had the problem with the front end not connecting to the backend
[18:34] <rhpot1991> thats still broken right?
[18:35] <LotharTBL> 40 of 64 downloaded sheesh
[18:35] <LotharTBL> yes, I think its to do with the user mythtv not having access to the sql database, but not totaly sure
[18:35] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html
[18:35] <rhpot1991> scroll down to  Modifying access to the MySQL database for multiple systems
[18:36] <rhpot1991> can do it via cli there
[18:36] <rhpot1991> is this box behind a firewall?
[18:38] <LotharTBL> yes, pix 501 to the outside
[18:38] <LotharTBL> ok while waiting for updating, I'll look at the mysql thing
[18:39] <rhpot1991> you can just do any mythtv user then as long as you don't have your mysql open to the outside world
[18:43] <LotharTBL> ok first thing, the bind address was set to the 127.0.0.0 instead of the ip address. definately a problem. That alone may fix it?
[18:44] <LotharTBL> all downloaded, just installing now.
[18:45] <rhpot1991> the bind address where?
[18:45] <LotharTBL> in my.cnf for mysql
[18:45] <rhpot1991> mine is too
[18:45] <LotharTBL> part of the directions you linked me
[18:46] <rhpot1991> that used to be the way to do it, but tgm4883 explained it earlier that you don't do it that way now
[18:46] <LotharTBL> says to change it at the bottom
[18:46] <rhpot1991> that the service handles it instead
[18:46] <LotharTBL> lol
[18:46] <LotharTBL> so change it back?
[18:46] <rhpot1991> just add the mythtv user for now
[18:46] <rhpot1991> and see if that works
[18:46] <rhpot1991> I would for now
[18:48] <LotharTBL> **still waits for updating**
[18:48] <rhpot1991> take your time, I'm still eating and all too
[18:53] <LotharTBL> ok all done, now restart mysql? sudo mysql restart?
[18:54] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[18:56] <rhpot1991> did you actually make the user at some point?
[18:57] <LotharTBL>  * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ OK ]
[18:57] <LotharTBL>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ OK ]
[18:57] <LotharTBL>  * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.
[18:57] <LotharTBL> no never made a user, got too wrapped up with trying to get frikin phpmyadmin to work
[18:58] <LotharTBL> which still down't
[18:58] <LotharTBL> when I try to view index.php in the browser it says I need to configure a helper application in preferences. There is no place to allow me to do that
[18:58] <LotharTBL> then again, may be a rights thing too
[18:59] <rhpot1991> helper application is a new one to me, google that
[18:59] <rhpot1991> but try to make the mythtv user with the command line first
[19:00] <rhpot1991> cause you don't need phpmyadmin if that works
[19:01] <LotharTBL> ok not up on myspl syntax log in as root mysql -u root -p and wait for password yes?
[19:02] <LotharTBL> I am logged into mysql all set to add a user..
[19:03] <LotharTBL> any command to show the status of users?
[19:03] <rhpot1991>  mysql -u root mythconverg mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; mysql> flush privileges;
[19:03] <LotharTBL> so I can see if I have any?>
[19:03] <rhpot1991> hmmm that didn't paste too nicely
[19:03] <LotharTBL> lol
[19:03] <rhpot1991> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";
[19:03] <rhpot1991> then: flush privileges;
[19:05] <LotharTBL> I think I'll do this one instead what do you think? grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv";
[19:05] <rhpot1991> that works too
[19:07] <LotharTBL> ok done, now lets see if it works eh?
[19:07] <LotharTBL> user will not need PW if they ar einside my network?
[19:08] <LotharTBL> brb running down to the other machine to check it out
[19:08] <rhpot1991> it should be the same mythtv mysql password you looked up in the txt file before
[19:09] <rhpot1991> wait its not
[19:10] <rhpot1991> the identiefied by stuff is the password
[19:11] <rhpot1991> if I break my system not, its your fault, heh
[19:11] <rhpot1991> s/not/now/
[19:15] <LotharTBL> damn it still not connecting!
[19:15] <LotharTBL> lol
[19:16] <rhpot1991> you flushed the privs?
[19:16] <LotharTBL> yes as directed
[19:16] <LotharTBL> odd or what?
[19:17] <LotharTBL> brb going to try again
[19:18] <rhpot1991> see what 'select * from users' returns
[19:19] <rhpot1991> make that user, and on the mysql db
[19:23] <insllvn> help! I added mythbuntu to an xubuntu install, and now i need to configure it as a backend how do I set up mySGL database and point mythTV backend setup at ir?
[19:28] <LotharTBL> ok do what now? lost me I was fighting with it downstairs
[19:28] <rhpot1991> select * from user
[19:28] <rhpot1991> on your mysql db, not mythconverg
[19:29] <LotharTBL> mysql> select * from user
[19:29] <LotharTBL>     ->
[19:29] <LotharTBL> nothing
[19:29] <LotharTBL> hmm maybe I have the wrong database installed?
[19:29] <rhpot1991> quit that
[19:29] <rhpot1991> and do mysql -u root -p mysql
[19:29] <LotharTBL> ok quit
[19:30]  * rhpot1991 hopes he got the syntax right
[19:30] <rhpot1991> should connect you to the mysql db
[19:30] <LotharTBL> ok in as stated
[19:30] <rhpot1991> also that -p might be optional
[19:30] <rhpot1991> now do select * from user
[19:31] <LotharTBL> mysql> select * from user
[19:31] <LotharTBL>     ->
[19:31] <LotharTBL> same thing
[19:31] <LotharTBL> or am I just a rock head and missing something?
[19:31] <rhpot1991> hmmmm
[19:31] <rhpot1991> that should return at least root
[19:31] <rhpot1991> as we are connected as root
[19:32] <LotharTBL> yes as root
[19:32] <LotharTBL> try as myth?
[19:32] <rhpot1991> hold on I'm trying it on mine
[19:32] <rhpot1991> heh
[19:33] <rhpot1991> select * from user;
[19:33] <rhpot1991> forgot the semi
[19:33] <LotharTBL> ah ok
[19:33] <rhpot1991> pastebin that, but remove the password hashes, no reason for them to be out there
[19:36] <LotharTBL> ok see lots of users from different polaces. mythtv already had access from % and now has it from 192.168.1.%
[19:36] <LotharTBL> so its a password issue? a port issue?
[19:36] <LotharTBL> a permissions issue?
[19:36] <LotharTBL> how do you change a user's password in mysql?
[19:37] <rhpot1991> mysqladmin -u vivek -p oldpassword newpass
[19:37] <rhpot1991> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mysql-change-root-password/
[19:38] <LotharTBL> it would appear that there are 3 instances of mythtv user, and 2 out of 3 have the same PW
[19:38] <rhpot1991> also a way to do it with root in there
[19:38] <rhpot1991> make them all the same
[19:38] <rhpot1991> then get rid of left overs later
[19:38] <rhpot1991> I randomly had an any user from any host in mine still
[19:38] <rhpot1991> removed that when I saw it
[19:38] <LotharTBL> how do I remove a user?
[19:39] <LotharTBL> the root password works fine
[19:39] <rhpot1991> delete from user where user='username';
[19:39] <rhpot1991> careful you don't delete root
[19:41] <feodal> please help cant run mythtv - can not connect to database
[19:41] <insllvn> i added mythbuntu to an xubuntu install, and i am trying to set it up as a backend it says it cannot connect to the database, how do i set up that database?
[19:42] <rhpot1991> so many database problems....
[19:42] <LotharTBL> my problem as well feodal
[19:43] <OfmindandMetal> Hi.  Having a problem with my ATSC tuner.  After having set up my card in the backend setup, and after scanning for channels and defining my source, in the front end, I go to WatchTV and it just flashes and goes back to the main screen.  From terminal, after I have scanned channels and try to tune to one of them, I keep getting the error:  "ERROR: error while parsing inversion (syntax error)".   Any ideas? I'm using a Ha
[19:43] <OfmindandMetal> that was gotten to work last week, and I"m not sure what has happened since
[19:43] <rhpot1991> everyone has a master backend and another backend or a frontend?
[19:43] <insllvn> i am setting up with one backend, and one frontend
[19:43] <LotharTBL> ok, I can NOT connect mysql -u mythtv -p using the password I think it is (the one in mysql.txt)
[19:43] <LotharTBL> so that is a problem
[19:43] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: use root and set a new password
[19:44] <LotharTBL> log in as root then do the mysqladmin -u mythtv -p ?
[19:44] <rhpot1991> nope, hold on
[19:45] <rhpot1991> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('new_password')  WHERE user='mythtv';
[19:45] <rhpot1991> this will change all your mythtv users
[19:46] <rhpot1991> don't forget you need to FLUSH PRIVILEGES; when you are done
[19:46] <LotharTBL> make a diff if its upper or lower case?
[19:47] <rhpot1991> I think thats case sensitive
[19:47] <rhpot1991> are yours different?
[19:47] <rhpot1991> all of mine are lowercase, though I set it up so long ago I may have created them myself
[19:49] <LotharTBL> damn need to go pick up son at school. be back soon
[19:55] <rhpot1991> insllvn: its your backend that can't see mysql?  Is the backend and mysql both running on the same box?
[19:55] <insllvn> yeah
[19:55] <insllvn> should be
[19:55] <rhpot1991> did you write down the password for your mythtv mysql user?
[19:56] <insllvn> yeah let me find
[19:56] <insllvn> it
[19:57] <rhpot1991> do mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg
[19:57] <rhpot1991> and then try that password when it prompts you
[19:58] <insllvn> rhpot1991, I can't find where I wrote it down, but during set up it gave a location where I could find it?
[19:59] <rhpot1991> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:00] <insllvn> thanks
[20:00] <rhpot1991> did that connect?
[20:02] <insllvn> error 1045 Access Denied
[20:02] <insllvn> do i need to change permissions?
[20:02] <insllvn> i really don't know much about MySQL
[20:03] <rhpot1991> try running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[20:03] <rhpot1991> it will make you a new password
[20:03] <rhpot1991> then try to do the same with that
[20:05] <insllvn> same error
[20:06] <rhpot1991> sounds like there is a bug in that package then, unless I'm having you guys do something silly
[20:06] <rhpot1991> paste the command you ran here so I can double check it
[20:06] <rhpot1991> without your password of course
[20:06] <insllvn> I am on another machine
[20:07] <insllvn> i am trying to set up an old machine, but right now I am typing on my notebook
[20:07] <rhpot1991> mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg
[20:07] <rhpot1991> right?
[20:08] <insllvn> woops i made a typo hehehe
[20:09] <insllvn> never mind did it right, still no dice
[20:12] <rhpot1991> try: mysql -u root
[20:13] <MythbuntuGuest49> I just got this mythbuntu box built and installed.  When I view it in VNC or on a Monitor through VGA, it shows the full picture.  However, when I connect it to my TV with SVideo, it shops off like .5 inch-1 inch around the screen
[20:15] <insllvn> rhpot1991, that did give me a mysql prompt (like mysql>  )
[20:15] <MythbuntuGuest49> i tried changing the resolution, but it didn't fix it
[20:16] <MythbuntuGuest49> also,for some reason, my screen goes blank after not being used, but I have unchecked the "Activate screensaver after X amount of time"
[20:16] <MythbuntuGuest49> i also switched it to 2 hours, but my tv goes blank before then (the music however keeps playing)
[20:16] <LotharTBL> ok by the way rhpot1991 when I did that I got
[20:16] <LotharTBL> mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user='mythtv';
[20:16] <LotharTBL> ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected
[20:17] <LotharTBL> needed to select the correct database when I originaly logged in?
[20:17] <LotharTBL> mysql -u root -p database?
[20:17] <superm1> !packaging | sebrock
[20:17] <ubotu> sebrock: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[20:17] <LotharTBL> which database is it?
[20:19] <rhpot1991> mysql database
[20:19] <rhpot1991> superm1: is there a problem with the mythtv-database package not giving out correct privs?
[20:19] <rhpot1991> 2 guys in here are having problems with it currently
[20:19] <LotharTBL> so put mysql -u root - p mysql
[20:20] <superm1> it properly handles the permissions as long as you dont go and muck with them
[20:20] <rhpot1991> yep
[20:20] <superm1> outside
[20:20] <rhpot1991> well it wasn't working for them out of the box
[20:20] <superm1> already had an sql server installed?
[20:20] <superm1> before starting
[20:20] <MythbuntuGuest49> good luck guys on fixing that, my problem isn't that important.  I'll check back later.
[20:20] <LotharTBL> alright, I think I have all the myth users now with the same pw let me try and log on localy and see if mythtv can log in
[20:21] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL, insllvn: did either of you already have mysql installed?
[20:21] <insllvn> no
[20:21] <superm1> possibly with a root password already predefined
[20:21] <LotharTBL> clean install off the mythbuntu 7.10 i386 disk
[20:21] <superm1> off a mythbuntu disk the pw was wrong?
[20:21] <LotharTBL> I can log into mysql fine with as root
[20:21] <insllvn> installed on top of a clean xubuntu install
[20:21] <rhpot1991> they are both backend with a remote frontend
[20:21] <insllvn> i can too
[20:22] <insllvn> yes
[20:22] <superm1> okay so lets take a step back here
[20:22] <rhpot1991> and their mysql user wont login via cli
[20:22] <LotharTBL> clean install ontop of an empty freshly formatted drive
[20:22] <rhpot1991> locally
[20:22] <superm1> so LotharTBL you installed from mythbuntu disk
[20:22] <superm1> advanced install or no?
[20:22] <LotharTBL> yes superml
[20:22] <gig> Hi I am trying to get my ATI Remote Wonder to work, but when I plugg the usb receiver in, nothing does anything, the red light comes on, and I've checked all the logs, I don't see anything being detected, using the latest mythbuntu 7.10
[20:22] <LotharTBL> yes advanced to make sure mysql and VNC were installed
[20:22] <superm1> okay did you change the root password during advanced install?
[20:23] <superm1> and did you choose the mysql service
[20:23] <LotharTBL> change it? as in did I put one in the open space?
[20:23] <superm1> yes
[20:23] <LotharTBL> yes I installed everything
[20:23] <LotharTBL> and yes I put in a PW
[20:23] <superm1> okay.
[20:23] <superm1> now things were working after install right?
[20:23] <superm1> no pw complaints etc
[20:24] <LotharTBL> no I have never been able to get the remote front end to start
[20:24] <superm1> did you have a local frontend
[20:24] <superm1> that you tried
[20:24] <superm1> on that backend
[20:24] <rhpot1991> does the sql service handle the privs too now?
[20:24] <LotharTBL> nope didn't install the local front end.
[20:24] <superm1> LotharTBL, okay.
[20:24] <superm1> on that machine
[20:25] <superm1> can you connect to mysql locally
[20:25] <superm1> as the mythtv user
[20:25] <LotharTBL> still can't log on localy as mythtv to mysql
[20:25] <superm1> using the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:25] <LotharTBL> nope
[20:25] <superm1> did you try before you started changing passwords?
[20:25] <rhpot1991> neither can the other guy, and I had him reconfigure mythtv-database
[20:25] <LotharTBL> no
[20:26] <gig> LotharTBL, on your backend, do you have a frontend installed?
[20:26] <superm1> LotharTBL, okay well i would recommend that you just reinstall right now if you dont have much change invested beyond the base install
[20:26] <superm1> and then the issue can be immediately identified
[20:26] <superm1> where it actually is
[20:26] <superm1> okay?
[20:26] <rhpot1991> I swear he tried mythtv before he meddled with the passwords
[20:27] <LotharTBL> ok..well, only a wasted morning
[20:27]  * rhpot1991 scrolls up to check
[20:27] <gig> LotharTBL, does the frontend work, can you watch live tv, etc.?
[20:27] <superm1> LotharTBL, sorry :)
[20:27] <LotharTBL> yes I tried it right out of the box never even ran apr-get update
[20:27] <superm1> LotharTBL, hopefully its just a usability issue and not a bug, but this is the best way to identify it
[20:27] <superm1> not to say a usability issue isn't a bug that needs identifying
[20:27] <superm1> you know what i mean?
[20:28] <LotharTBL> well, this will be my 3rd install of mythbuntu, may just do another re-install of mythdora to keep the numbers even lol
[20:28] <OfmindandMetal> Hi.  Having a problem with my ATSC tuner.  After having set up my card in the backend setup, and after scanning for channels and defining my source, in the front end, I go to WatchTV and it just flashes and goes back to the main screen.  From terminal, after I have scanned channels and try to tune to one of them, I keep getting the error:  "ERROR: error while parsing inversion (syntax error)".   Any ideas? I'm using a Ha
[20:28] <OfmindandMetal> that was gotten to work last week, and I"m not sure what has happened since
[20:28] <gig> LotharTBL, well if the frontend works on the backend server, just gointo the setup of the bandend, and get the password it is using from that
[20:28] <superm1> LotharTBL, well it'd be most appreciated if you'll be patient in identifying this, it will benefit other people especially if its a bug that we can fix :)
[20:28] <superm1> now that second person having the issue
[20:28] <LotharTBL> understood, however mythweb is working! lol
[20:29] <superm1> insllvn,
[20:29] <superm1> you installed from a clean xubuntu install?
[20:29] <LotharTBL> well give me a couple of hours... I'll be back I am sure
[20:29] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: if you go to status mythweb shows actual useful info?
[20:29] <LotharTBL> no mythbuntu 7.10 disk
[20:29] <LotharTBL> yes it shows a lot of info
[20:29] <LotharTBL> let me paste it into a clip spot for you?
[20:30] <rhpot1991> like it lists encoders?
[20:30] <gig> Can anyone help me with my remote?
[20:30] <rhpot1991> some of the stuff under machine info doesn't come from the db I don't think
[20:30] <insllvn> superm1, yes
[20:30] <rhpot1991> s/some/all
[20:30] <superm1> insllvn, okay can you elaborate a little
[20:31] <superm1> you install from the website?
[20:31] <superm1> from synaptic?
[20:31] <superm1> or from apt-get ?
[20:31] <superm1> and what package did you install
[20:31] <LotharTBL> it lists everything
[20:31] <superm1> (there are tons of ways to install)
[20:31] <insllvn> sorry installed mythbuntu packages from the website
[20:31] <insllvn> http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[20:32] <superm1> insllvn, okay
[20:32] <superm1> insllvn, now when you installed the control centre, what'd you do next?
[20:34] <LotharTBL> superml http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2648/ this is why I don't think its a database issue. mythweb works like a champ
[20:34] <insllvn> went through the options, installed some proprietary codecs and tried to start "launch mythTV setup"
[20:35] <superm1> LotharTBL, okay that changes a few things...
[20:35] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: what happens if you click on listings?
[20:35] <insllvn> under mythTV configuration
[20:35] <superm1> LotharTBL, can you check the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess.conf
[20:35] <superm1> and compare the two?
[20:36] <LotharTBL> beautiful TV listing. I can search by type rating etc
[20:36] <superm1> insllvn, okay so you installed the backend and frontend there too?
[20:36] <superm1> insllvn, or was that before installing from the website
[20:36] <LotharTBL> sure, they are different however
[20:36] <superm1> LotharTBL, they *are* different?
[20:37] <LotharTBL> the one in mysql.txt is random lower uppercase letters and numbers, I selected the one in htaccess
[20:37] <LotharTBL> yes totaly different
[20:37] <superm1> can you try them both?
[20:37] <insllvn> not sure I follow you I installed as instructed here: http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[20:37] <superm1> on command line?
[20:37] <LotharTBL> I have no clue where the one in mysql.txt came from I know I didn't pick it
[20:37] <rhpot1991> mythtv-database generates that one
[20:37] <superm1> insllvn, okay so can you check in the control centre, and see what roles you have activated then
[20:38] <LotharTBL> sure but the user in htaccess is also different then mythtv
[20:38] <superm1> LotharTBL, oh
[20:38] <insllvn> oh i understand now yeah it is set up as primary backend no frontend
[20:38] <superm1> LotharTBL, i'm referring elsewhere
[20:38] <insllvn> xubuntu desktop
[20:38] <superm1> insllvn, okay can you try to launch mythtv-setup from a command line instead then?
[20:38] <superm1> insllvn, just "mythtv-setup"
[20:38] <superm1> on the command line
[20:39] <superm1> LotharTBL, there is a file in /etc/mythtv for mythweb that stores the SQL information (other than mysql.txt)
[20:39] <superm1> that's what i'm asking you to look at
[20:39] <superm1> it might be mythweb-config.php
[20:39] <superm1> i dont know off hand
[20:39] <LotharTBL> standby
[20:40] <insllvn> must shut down mythtvbackend: yes would you like to run mythfilldatabse: yes
[20:40] <insllvn> running mythfilldatabase
[20:41] <rhpot1991> its mythweb-digest
[20:41] <LotharTBL> ok yes the file is there. I see no pw info in it however
[20:41] <rhpot1991> and it looks like its the hash in there
[20:41] <rhpot1991> not plain text
[20:42] <rhpot1991> match that up with:
[20:42] <superm1> insllvn, okay can you show the output in that terminal to us?
[20:43] <superm1> in a pastebin
[20:43] <rhpot1991> mysql -u root mysql
[20:43] <insllvn> yeah hold on a tic
[20:44] <rhpot1991> select password from user where user='mythtv' and host='localhost';
[20:45] <rhpot1991> correct me if I am wrong superm1, but mysql hashes will be the same if the username is the same and the password is the same regardless of the host?
[20:45] <superm1> well they are clear text
[20:46] <superm1> but the password will be the same either way
[20:46] <gig> Can anyone help me with my remote wonder
[20:47] <superm1> gig, you dont see the usb module loaded even?
[20:47] <gig> which should i use
[20:47] <gig> the kernel or userspace
[20:47] <superm1> personal preference
[20:48] <gig> usbcore lirc_atiusb,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[20:48] <superm1> lets say kernel for now
[20:48] <superm1> okay so its loaded
[20:48] <superm1> no errors in dmesg about it?
[20:48] <gig> thats with userspace
[20:48] <insllvn> superm1, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2649/
[20:48] <superm1> insllvn, hmm Can't connect to MySQL server on '172.0.0.1' (110)
[20:48] <superm1> you copied and pasted, or did you hand type that ?
[20:49] <insllvn> that was copy/pasted
[20:49] <superm1> because that's most definitely the wrong address
[20:49] <insllvn> ah
[20:49] <superm1> check out /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:49] <gig> superm1,  lirc_atiusb[3]: X10 Wireless Technology Inc USB Receiver on usb1:3
[20:49] <superm1> and see if its listing that address there
[20:49] <gig> superm1, that is in dmeg
[20:49] <gig> superm1, looks like its finding it
[20:49] <LotharTBL> superml here are the mythtv users and permissions I have set in my database  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2650/
[20:50] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: do those password hashes match what is in /etc/mythtv/mythweb-digest ?
[20:51] <superm1> guys i say dont work with the hashes
[20:51] <superm1> look at the clear text password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:51] <superm1> and the clear text password in the mythweb conf file
[20:51] <superm1> that mythweb uses to connect to mysql
[20:51] <superm1> if those match or dont
[20:51] <superm1> if they dont match there is a problem somewhere with one of them
[20:51] <rhpot1991> I don't see a clear text password in any mythweb config
[20:51] <LotharTBL> nor do I
[20:52] <LotharTBL> however if I have a password for mythtv in mysql I should be able to localy log him in yes?
[20:52] <superm1>         setenv db_server        "mythdell"
[20:52] <superm1>         setenv db_name          "mythconverg"
[20:52] <superm1>         setenv db_login         "mythtv"
[20:52] <LotharTBL> but I can't for some reason
[20:52] <superm1> in /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess
[20:52] <superm1> is the file i see those
[20:52] <superm1> its right belowthat
[20:52] <superm1> gig, okay so does irw work?
[20:53] <rhpot1991> an there they are
[20:53] <gig> superm1, not sure how do i check
[20:53] <superm1> gig, type 'irw'
[20:53] <gig> it just sits their doesn't give me an error message
[20:54] <LotharTBL>  setenv db_server        "localhost"
[20:54] <LotharTBL>         setenv db_name          "mythconverg"
[20:54] <superm1> gig right, its expecting you to press buttons
[20:54] <LotharTBL>         setenv db_login         "mythtv"
[20:54] <LotharTBL>         setenv db_password      "qnY5O0Bg"
[20:54] <rhpot1991> careful with those passwords
[20:54] <superm1> LotharTBL, okay so now go compare that with the one /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:54] <superm1> is it identical or not.
[20:54] <LotharTBL> standby
[20:54] <gig> superm1, ok so when i press buttons i get no output
[20:55] <superm1> gig okay then you'll want to test the remote using mode2
[20:55] <superm1> to see if you get anything
[20:55] <superm1> google for how to use mode2
[20:55] <superm1> or look at the man page.
[20:56] <insllvn> superm1, is what's in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt just for reference, or if something is wrong there will it create problems?
[20:56] <superm1> insllvn, if something is wrong there the backend wont start
[20:56] <LotharTBL> identical
[20:56] <insllvn> i see
[20:56] <superm1> it is the "central" location for this pw stuff
[20:56] <superm1> LotharTBL, okay so now login to mysql like this
[20:56] <LotharTBL> mysql.txt is also in 2 different places and both are the same
[20:56] <superm1> mysql -u mythtv
[20:56] <superm1> and try that password
[20:58] <LotharTBL> holey cow! I am a moron. didn't notice it until now its a capital O and a zero. in the term screen it looked like 2 zeros
[20:58] <LotharTBL> yes it works now. hot damn password issue. going to go try it now
[20:58] <rhpot1991> :(
[20:59]  * superm1 shrugs.
[20:59] <LotharTBL> maybe that will work? maybe not lol brb
[20:59] <LotharTBL> always something easy eh?
[21:00] <OfmindandMetal> Hi.  Having a problem with my ATSC tuner.  After having set up my card in the backend setup, and after scanning for channels and defining my source, in the front end, I go to WatchTV and it just flashes and goes back to the main screen.  From terminal, after I have scanned channels and try to tune to one of them, I keep getting the error:  "ERROR: error while parsing inversion (syntax error)".   Any ideas? I'm using a Ha
[21:00] <OfmindandMetal> that was gotten to work last week, and I"m not sure what has happened since
[21:00] <rhpot1991> should modify the code not to use 0/O/I/1
[21:00] <rhpot1991> or l
[21:01] <superm1> OfmindandMetal, did it have any problems scanning?
[21:01] <superm1> and is there anything in dmesg agbout it
[21:01] <LotharTBL> well... not it!
[21:02] <LotharTBL> still fails when I try to run and auto kicks itself out
[21:02] <rhpot1991> did you ever actually modify the user table?
[21:02] <LotharTBL> me?
[21:02] <rhpot1991> ya
[21:02] <rhpot1991> or did you just do selects on it
[21:03] <LotharTBL> ok lost me
[21:03] <rhpot1991> we were talking about modifying the user table at one point
[21:03] <LotharTBL> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('new_password') WHERE user='mythtv';
[21:03] <rhpot1991> to add a mythtv user
[21:03] <LotharTBL> yes I did this
[21:04] <LotharTBL> but should I do it again and set it to the other pw?
[21:04] <rhpot1991> didn't that error out on you?
[21:04] <OfmindandMetal> superm1: it did not have a problem scanning, and dmesg recognized in upon boot as a CX88 something card
[21:04] <LotharTBL> no it didn't
[21:04] <rhpot1991> cause you weren't in a database
[21:04] <superm1> woah woah LotharTBL
[21:04] <superm1> dont go changing passwords
[21:04] <superm1> seriously...
[21:04] <LotharTBL> too late already done
[21:04] <rhpot1991> superm1: that happened hours ago
[21:04] <superm1> okay well it appears the old password works when you connected on command line
[21:04] <superm1> so that's what matters
[21:04] <rhpot1991> but I'd think the other one would have broken
[21:04] <LotharTBL> yes it does
[21:05] <rhpot1991> and all his hashes are the same
[21:05] <superm1> okay now check that mysql is really listening on the right port
[21:05] <rhpot1991> so it should be ok still
[21:05] <LotharTBL> the other one dosn't work at all
[21:05] <superm1> that it is listening on your network card's ip
[21:05] <superm1> not just on 127.0.0.1
[21:05] <superm1> use nmap or netstat to determine
[21:05] <LotharTBL> standby
[21:06] <directhex> hm. why doesn't ubuntu have any low-latency kernels?
[21:06] <LotharTBL> tcp        0      0 *:mysql                 *:*                     LISTEN
[21:06] <_MMA_> directhex: There is.
[21:06] <LotharTBL> unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     41804    /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[21:06] <LotharTBL> unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     41914    /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[21:06] <superm1> OfmindandMetal, can you possibly try using the card with another package like kaffeine?
[21:07] <superm1> to identify if the same thing is happening outside mythtv
[21:07] <directhex> _MMA_, not since feisty
[21:07] <_MMA_> directhex: Incorrect. I had it made myself. ;) sudo apt-get linux-rt
[21:07] <Daviey> directhex: linux-image-2.6.22-14-rt
[21:08] <directhex> why the hell is that missed by apt-cache search linux-image ?
[21:09] <Daviey> directhex: not missed here :/
[21:09] <OfmindandMetal> well, I can try Kaffeine perhaps.  but I can't tune through it manual through terminal either, I keep getting a message about error while parsing inversion or something.  invalid syntax
[21:09] <directhex> well, that makes my life easier
[21:10] <OfmindandMetal> I'm wondering if myth flashing back to main screen and that are related
[21:10] <insllvn> superm1,  you said that txt file appears in two places, and if it is wrong the backend won't start where is the other location?
[21:10] <joejaxx> SOMEBADY SAVVVEEEE MEEEE OHHHHHHHH! - Smallville
[21:10] <superm1> insllvn, ~/.mythtv
[21:10] <_MMA_> lol
[21:10] <superm1> haha
[21:10] <superm1> insllvn, if you have a mysql.txt in ~/.mythtv get rid of it
[21:18] <insllvn> ok superm1 I think I am making progress here how do i set the password for my database? when a reconfigured mysqlconverg, it said that unless I had changed it I should leave the password blank
[21:18] <feodal> please help cant run muthtv cant connect to database
[21:18] <superm1> woah wth is with all these today?
[21:19] <superm1> LotharTBL, insllvn and now you too feodal ?
[21:19] <directhex> superm1, the database is myth's weak link. are you really surprised?
[21:19] <rhpot1991> see I told you something was up
[21:19] <LotharTBL> no never heard of it
[21:19] <superm1> directhex, but i mean all at once?
[21:19] <directhex> superm1, maybe the mythbuntu market share is increasing! ;)
[21:19] <superm1> insllvn, it is created for you
[21:19] <superm1> its stored in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[21:19] <superm1> you dont create it yourself
[21:20] <LotharTBL> superml is mysql listening where it should be?
[21:21] <insllvn> superm1, i think i screwed that up, can i change it now?
[21:21] <superm1> LotharTBL, it is listening yes
[21:21] <superm1> LotharTBL, from your remote machine, try to connect with command line
[21:21] <superm1> or even better
[21:21] <superm1> from mcc
[21:21] <superm1> mcc has a test button
[21:21] <superm1> insllvn, what'd you screw up exactly?
[21:22] <gig> superm1, ok i have output from irw.... now how to i get it to work in myth frontend
[21:23] <insllvn> i don't have that original password, i had tried to change it earlier in a dialogue, and now i can't find it in those text files they were what i tried to change it to, bu that doesn't work
[21:23] <LotharTBL> ok run the mmc localy on the server?
[21:23] <rhpot1991> LotharTBL: on the remote machine
[21:24] <LotharTBL> ok run it thru... ssh? VNC?
[21:24] <superm1> gig, regenerate your lircrc from cc
[21:24] <rhpot1991> no, off of the cd itself
[21:24] <superm1> LotharTBL, on the remote machine however you want
[21:24] <superm1> LotharTBL, some method
[21:25] <rhpot1991> you want it running on the remote machine, not on the server
[21:25] <superm1> insllvn, well i think at this point, your easiest method:
[21:25] <superm1> sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 mythtv-*
[21:25] <superm1> and then reinstall during mcc
[21:27] <LotharTBL> ok vnc running MCC and don't see a test button for mysql
[21:27] <LotharTBL> ah ok.. it needs to be on the local machine to let me run it. standby
[21:28] <superm1> its on the mythtv configuration tab Lothar_Away
[21:28] <gig> superm1, thanks it works
[21:29] <superm1> gig whatdid you have to do
[21:29] <superm1> for irw to work?
[21:29] <superm1> did you end up having to change that lircd.conf or something?
[21:31] <insllvn> well shit i guess this project will have to be put on hold till tomorrow
[21:31] <gig> superm1, i had to change the lird.conf and lircrc
[21:31] <gig> superm1, and i found a forum that said userspace was blacklisted so i changed to the kernel
[21:31] <superm1> gig, can you please file a bug with what was necessary to do
[21:31] <superm1> and we can evaluate it there
[21:31] <superm1> against the lirc package
[21:31] <superm1> to have this working out of the box for hardy
[21:33] <LotharTBL> well no go.
[21:33] <LotharTBL> won't connect from remote machine with MCC
[21:33] <superm1> LotharTBL, well try from a command line
[21:33] <superm1> and see if its an issue connecting
[21:33] <superm1> or what it tells you
[21:33] <gig> superm1, sure, the config info was their in both configs, i just had to take out everything else and just leave what was relivent
[21:34] <gig> superm1, where do i go to submit a bug
[21:34] <LotharTBL> ok to connect to a remote host on a cli its mysql -u root -p <ip of remote machine>?
[21:35] <rhpot1991> I think you need -host or -h before the IP
[21:35] <LotharTBL> ok willco
[21:36] <superm1> gig, http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/source/+lirc
[21:36] <superm1> i think
[21:36] <superm1> thats off the top of my head
[21:36] <superm1> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bugs
[21:36] <superm1> thats a bit closer
[21:37] <LotharTBL> ok from cli on remote machine access denied password = yes
[21:38] <superm1> LotharTBL, okay well you know that password is right if you can connect from the local machine
[21:39] <LotharTBL> indeed
[21:39] <LotharTBL> so its some kind of permission issue?
[21:39] <superm1> sounds like it
[21:39] <rhpot1991> well.....
[21:39] <rhpot1991> we made another mysql user at one point
[21:39] <rhpot1991> on 192.x.x.%
[21:39] <superm1> oh the one that connects from remote machines?
[21:39] <rhpot1991> right?
[21:39] <LotharTBL> yes we did..
[21:39] <superm1> ugh. there we go.
[21:40] <LotharTBL> with the same name, but a different pw
[21:40] <superm1> okay undo it all
[21:40] <rhpot1991> superm1: it didn't work before we did that though, it was my attempt to see if that was the problem
[21:40] <superm1> :)
[21:40] <rhpot1991> lets just delete it
[21:40] <rhpot1991> that user
[21:40] <LotharTBL> ok how do I undo it?
[21:40] <LotharTBL> and I globally changed all the users mythtv to a different password
[21:40] <rhpot1991> sudo mythtv -u root mysql
[21:40] <rhpot1991> on your backend
[21:40] <superm1> rhpot1991, okay well i need to get going guys..  good luck LotharTBL
[21:41] <LotharTBL> mythtv or mysql?
[21:41] <rhpot1991> mysql
[21:41] <LotharTBL> thanks supermL
[21:42] <LotharTBL> ok at the mysql prompt
[21:43] <rhpot1991> delete from user where user='mythtv' and host='192.thing from before';
[21:43] <rhpot1991> then FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[21:43] <LotharTBL> $ mysql -u root mythconverg
[21:44] <LotharTBL> mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv";
[21:44] <LotharTBL> mysql> flush privileges;
[21:44] <LotharTBL> this is what we did
[21:44] <LotharTBL> not sure how to delete a user
[21:44] <LotharTBL> ok got it
[21:45] <LotharTBL> all done
[21:45] <LotharTBL> need to quit and restart?
[21:46] <rhpot1991> quit
[21:46] <rhpot1991> shouldn't need to restart but go ahead and sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[21:48] <LotharTBL> done, now try to connect remotely again I suppose, brb
[21:48] <gig> superm1, anyway to change how big files are encoded? anyway to lower quality? i've tried setting low quality, and playing with mythstreamtv, but nothing seems to work and files still end up being 1.2gb for 30 minutes
[21:50] <rhpot1991> gig: transcode them to something else like xvid or something
[21:52] <LotharTBL> Gentelmen, I think we have liftoff
[21:52] <rhpot1991> excelent
[21:52] <gig> rhpot1991, i know this is a big question, but how would i transcode a recording down to xvid via the commandline
[21:52] <rhpot1991> so it was the typo then we broke remote on top of it
[21:52] <rhpot1991> as an attempt to fix a problem that didn't exist
[21:52] <LotharTBL> I went in and reset all the PWs back to the one it was and got rid of the extra entry
[21:52] <LotharTBL> yep
[21:53] <LotharTBL> damn O0
[21:53] <LotharTBL> on this test its easy
[21:53] <LotharTBL> on a terminal its now
[21:53] <LotharTBL> I loved the old slashed or dotted 0
[21:53] <LotharTBL> bring back the slash! (with a dot )
[21:53] <rhpot1991> heh
[21:54] <rhpot1991> gig: I've only done transcoding via mythfrontend
[21:54] <rhpot1991> seach around the wiki or user mailing list and you might find something
[21:55] <gig> rhpot1991, how do you transcode via mythfrondend?
[21:55] <rhpot1991> let me look up the position
[21:56] <feodal> народ кто сталкивался с проблемой запуска mythtv - не могу подключится к базе
[21:56] <rhpot1991> setup > setup > TV > recording profiles > transcoders
[21:57] <rhpot1991> I am fairly sure you also have to fire up mythtv-setup and check off a checkbox in there to enable transcoding
[21:57] <rhpot1991> then you go into a recording and in the menu for it there is a jobs option and transcoding is under that
[21:58] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtranscode
[21:58] <rhpot1991> seems you can do it cli with that
[22:02] <rhpot1991> I'm off good luck with that gig, LotharTBL: good luck configuring the rest of your system
[22:32] <Nightcrlr> anyone here running a DVB-s myth system?
[22:44] <LotharTBL> well its running! Now all I need to do is get the remote control to work
[23:23] <gig> When I use mythweb to schedule a recording, I'd like it to transcode automatically.... yet when I select auto-transcode, and select user job 1.... I see it added to the que, but the status just stays at que, and never transcodes....
[23:24] <gig> if i schedule a transcode via the frontend, it goes into the que for a few minutes, then starts transcoding, and finishes