| === Mez|OnAir is now known as Mez | ||
| kahrytan | I hate ubuntu ops | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| LjL | hello to you too | 00:25 |
| Pici | kahrytan: oh. okay. | 00:25 |
| kahrytan | You guys love to pick on me | 00:25 |
| LjL | and if i had to second-guess you like you're doing with us, i'd say you've got some kind of victim complex | 00:25 |
| kahrytan | huh.. that didnt make sense. | 00:26 |
| ikonia | not this guy again | 00:26 |
| LjL | kahrytan: perhaps it was my english | 00:26 |
| LjL | anyway, it was sarcasm, so not really important | 00:27 |
| nalioth | i'm not sure "you guys" is accurate | 00:27 |
| kahrytan | I hate being picked on. | 00:27 |
| ikonia | nalioth: you "people" more PC | 00:27 |
| LjL | we're people? | 00:27 |
| Pici | kahrytan: Honestly, I havent been following what your bans are about, but we dont do these type of things for no reason. | 00:27 |
| ikonia | LjL: just about | 00:27 |
| LjL | ubotu, say something | 00:27 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about say something - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 00:27 |
| kahrytan | Today was no reason though. | 00:28 |
| nalioth | ikonia: i don't know who kahrytan is. i don't think i'm included in his "you guys" group | 00:28 |
| Pici | kahrytan: I believe that your ban was not lifted and you were banned for evasion. | 00:28 |
| kahrytan | nalioth➲ i'll exclude you | 00:28 |
| ikonia | nalioth: past experience suggests "you exist" so "your included" | 00:28 |
| kahrytan | I evaded? yeah. No I didn't | 00:28 |
| nalioth | my point is that not everyone in here knows who you are or anythbing about you | 00:28 |
| LjL | kahrytan, perhaps you didn't and it was simply your ISP changing stuff | 00:29 |
| kahrytan | Pici➲ I just went to sleep one night, and woke up able to enter. | 00:29 |
| LjL | still, you were not "banned" today except from a strictly technical point of view | 00:29 |
| LjL | you were *already* banned | 00:29 |
| kahrytan | So, you just messed up then LjL | 00:29 |
| LjL | uhm, no kahrytan. | 00:29 |
| LjL | you changed your IP address. | 00:29 |
| kahrytan | My isp did | 00:30 |
| kahrytan | not my fault | 00:30 |
| LjL | and? | 00:30 |
| LjL | you were banned, your ban wasn't lifted | 00:30 |
| LjL | so you're still banned | 00:30 |
| LjL | that seems quite logical to me, whether or not it was your ISP's fault | 00:30 |
| kahrytan | You just didnt realize people do have dynamic ips | 00:30 |
| kahrytan | and your ban was rather dumb too | 00:30 |
| LjL | i do realize that, unfortunately i have to | 00:30 |
| kahrytan | You did it to pick on me | 00:30 |
| ikonia | </bored> | 00:31 |
| LjL | kahrytan, i agree with ikonia. your attitude is far from constructive, i don't think i'm going on with this so-called conversation. | 00:31 |
| Pici | %btlogin | 00:31 |
| kahrytan | I dont have an attitude. | 00:31 |
| kahrytan | Just saying ops here like to ban me after I have stopped doing what they told me to stop. | 00:32 |
| kahrytan | which is rather stupid and pointless | 00:32 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ you do realize I am complaining? | 00:34 |
| LjL | yes kahrytan. complains taken into consideration. | 00:35 |
| Pici | Just for my own reference, this is regarding the harrassment issue in -offtopic? | 00:35 |
| kahrytan | Sorta ... | 00:35 |
| kahrytan | which I did stop when asked. | 00:35 |
| LjL | yes Pici, although it got intermixed with the fact that he re-appeared today with a different address, as you know | 00:36 |
| ikonia | LjL: please don't discount the attitude towards you and ompaul | 00:36 |
| LjL | ikonia, what attitude? oh wait, you mean the attitude he refused to show in the appropriate channels, like for instance this one | 00:37 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ which isnt my fault | 00:37 |
| LjL | though i see that's being amended | 00:37 |
| ikonia | LjL: yes and the way he did that, | 00:37 |
| LjL | kahrytan, you keep implying things i'm not saying | 00:37 |
| kahrytan | Whats being amended? | 00:38 |
| LjL | the fact that you didn't complain in the appropriate channels | 00:38 |
| ubotu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 00:39 |
| ubotu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 00:39 |
| ubotu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 00:39 |
| Pici | LjL: can I tell you again how much I like the floodbots | 00:39 |
| ikonia | looks like they are very effective | 00:40 |
| LjL | Pici: perhaps i should make the time window shorrter though, i suspect mullcom_ wasn't really a victim | 00:40 |
| nalioth | i suspect otw | 00:41 |
| Pici | LjL: why not, his quit time looks correct here | 00:41 |
| nalioth | lag is suspect | 00:41 |
| LjL | Pici: one second late here, after nalioth's kill | 00:41 |
| Pici | Its all at :03 here. | 00:42 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ I am complaining in proper channels | 00:42 |
| LjL | kahrytan: indeed, that's what i'm saying. you weren't yesterday, you've fixed that now. although, it is my personal opinion that the way you're doing it isn't doing yourself a favor | 00:42 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ I wasnt complaining yesterday | 00:43 |
| LjL | uhm well, no, you weren't complaining - on any officially logged channel, that is | 00:43 |
| LjL | but you and i know you were complaining | 00:43 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ that wasnt a compliant. | 00:44 |
| LjL | ok then. | 00:44 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ thats just me trying to solve a problem you got with me | 00:44 |
| LjL | well, matter of definitions. doesn't much matter i guess | 00:44 |
| kahrytan | I just know i'm being unfairly treated by ops. | 00:46 |
| LjL | then articulate your problem with me/us in a logical and civil manner. although perhaps it's already a bit late for that now... but that's what, in my opinion, you should have done to begin with. | 00:47 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ I just did | 00:48 |
| LjL | oh. well, i think i mistook it for a meaningless rant, sorry. | 00:48 |
| LjL | i must be a bit tired | 00:49 |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ Yesterday was an attempt to solve problem with just you. Now I am taking to it to a group | 00:49 |
| kahrytan | On the one hand, No one here really gives a crap what I say. Which proves my point, I'm being unfairly treated. | 00:50 |
| LjL | it proves it to your own mind. if i had to guess, i'd say if anything it shows how starting a complain with "i hate ubuntu ops" is unlikely to attract sympathy. | 00:51 |
| Jack_Sparrow | LjL: I applaude your patience... goodnight... | 00:52 |
| * LjL wonders if Jack's appearance here was somehow related :) | 00:53 | |
| kahrytan | LjL➲ I read that as, " I don't give a crap what you say" | 00:53 |
| LjL | well, i can't and won't speak of anybody else. as far as i am personally concerned, i can confirm that at this stage, no, i really don't give a crap what you say. have a good day | 00:54 |
| kahrytan | Which you prooved my point | 00:54 |
| kahrytan | i'll stay here til everyone realizes they are treating people in fairly. | 00:59 |
| kahrytan | which goes against the name Ubuntu | 01:00 |
| LjL | kahrytan, however i urge you to read the channel topic | 01:01 |
| kahrytan | Why? | 01:03 |
| kahrytan | I ready but why ? | 01:05 |
| kahrytan | I did read it? | 01:05 |
| LjL | "The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel" | 01:06 |
| kahrytan | i'm not idling | 01:06 |
| LjL | no, you seemed to express your intention to however | 01:07 |
| kahrytan | No I didn't | 01:07 |
| kahrytan | Idling = Away from Keyboard. I am still physically waiting for more people to be active. | 01:08 |
| ubotu | magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (lovedeatm) | 01:10 |
| kahrytan | and You also just prooved, LjL, that Ops do abuse me by kicking me | 01:11 |
| magnetron | hello LjL, you invited me | 01:17 |
| kahrytan | How do I get ops to stop abusing me and treating me unfairly? | 01:17 |
| LjL | magnetron, yes i did, as you were mentioned in another channel and, as i understand it, accused of something | 01:17 |
| magnetron | LjL: i only saw that you invited me. what am i accused of, and by whom? | 01:21 |
| Tm_T | kahrytan: what I have seen, noone have treated you unfairly | 01:21 |
| stdin | lovedeatm_: care to explain why you did "[01:14] <lovedeatm_> "<<<!ops | magnetron>>>>>" <----explain this i have a vendetta" ? | 01:22 |
| kahrytan | Again, abuse by ops. | 01:22 |
| Tm_T | kahrytan: disagreed | 01:22 |
| lovedeatm_ | kicked me for doing pasting without warning...pissed me off cuz i didnt know | 01:22 |
| lovedeatm_ | ive done it before nobody told me i wasnt allowed to do it | 01:22 |
| lovedeatm_ | he pmed me about the copy bin | 01:23 |
| Tm_T | mmm | 01:23 |
| lovedeatm_ | and then kicked me that was it | 01:23 |
| lovedeatm_ | i dont thik it was fair | 01:23 |
| LjL | lovedeatm_, magnetron didn't kick you, i did. | 01:23 |
| lovedeatm_ | according to the logs when i scrolled back he atcivated it..so i accuse him | 01:24 |
| lovedeatm_ | [Mon Dec 10 2007] [20:11:17] <magnetron> !ops | lovedeatm | 01:25 |
| Tm_T | you can't accuse him | 01:25 |
| LjL | lovedeatm_, that was a call to operators, then operators are called to judge the call. | 01:25 |
| LjL | and lovedeatm_, i kicked/banned you seeing you were flooding the channel, then read it more carefully and realized it wasn't a malicious flood - just a flood - and unbanned you. how were you harmed? | 01:25 |
| lovedeatm_ | ok well i don't know that im very extremely new to linux meanwhile why do you think ti was fair to kick me and as fast | 01:26 |
| lovedeatm_ | it was literly like you had some kinda auto kick thinkg goin on | 01:26 |
| elkbuntu | lovedeatm_, the kick and ban stopped the flood, it was not entirely meant to hurt you. it's common practice | 01:26 |
| Tm_T | lovedeatm_: I think LjL just admitted he made a mistake ;) | 01:26 |
| lovedeatm_ | agian i don't know this...and all is forgiven | 01:27 |
| elkbuntu | Tm_T, no, it's common practice to kb to stop a flood | 01:27 |
| lovedeatm_ | i made a mistake to and im srry as well | 01:27 |
| Tm_T | elkbuntu: yes, I know | 01:27 |
| LjL | Tm_T: not really, no. things scroll fast, especially when a flood is ongoing, so banning and *then* reading is a practice i don't discourage | 01:27 |
| Tm_T | LjL: I know, what I meant, you realised you can lift ban immediately, I misworded, sorry | 01:28 |
| === lovedeatm_ is now known as lovedeatm | ||
| LjL | lovedeatm_, it's alright for all i'm concerned. i do suggest that you don't accuse people like that, though... if you're new, try to understand how things work - that doesn't mean you should shut up if you feel you're being treated unfairly, but semi-random accusations aren't good either | 01:28 |
| === lovedeatm is now known as lovedeatm_ | ||
| lovedeatm_ | i understand..but it wasnt well i gues it was semi random but yeah ok | 01:29 |
| lovedeatm_ | well thanks ill know that for now on | 01:29 |
| elkbuntu | lovedeatm_, have you been shown the guidelines? | 01:29 |
| ubotu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 01:29 |
| LjL | lovedeatm_, feel free to join this channel and ask, if anything isn't clear to you | 01:29 |
| lovedeatm_ | no everything is clear...thank you | 01:30 |
| lovedeatm_ | ims sorry for flooding i didnt know | 01:30 |
| lovedeatm_ | you were jsut doing your job | 01:30 |
| ubotu | stdin called the ops in #ubuntu () | 01:31 |
| lovedeatm_ | lol wow i see what you mean | 01:31 |
| LjL | heh | 01:32 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, i think the floodbots got it right :) | 01:32 |
| LjL | elkbuntu, they certainly did. pity there weren't enough ACTIONs to actually make them start banning | 01:33 |
| === lovedeatm_ is now known as lovedeatm | ||
| LjL | i'd have liked to see that | 01:33 |
| magnetron | those floodbots seem pretty smart | 01:33 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, baby steps. it's great just having the warning when we're not looking in the channel | 01:33 |
| nalioth | stdin: did you not see myself and LjL set modes just before that started? | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | magnetron: can I ask who you are and why you are here? just curious :) | 01:34 |
| LjL | well i wasn't looking anymore to be honest, i thought +rR would kill it | 01:34 |
| LjL | Tm_T, i invited magnetron here since he was called into cause because of a ban in #ubuntu-offtopic | 01:35 |
| Tm_T | ah, roger | 01:35 |
| stdin | nalioth: yep, but if I call ops then it's less likely 10 people will simultaneously | 01:35 |
| magnetron | i'm glad the issue i was called here for was resolved so easily. Tm_T, i am here LjL invited me | 01:35 |
| Tm_T | magnetron: hi and welcome to eaglesnest | 01:35 |
| magnetron | i think i'll leave now LjL | 01:35 |
| magnetron | Tm_T: ty | 01:35 |
| lovedeatm | yeah srry magnetron | 01:36 |
| lovedeatm | lataz peeps | 01:36 |
| magnetron | lovedeatm: cu | 01:36 |
| LjL | magnetron, sure, i think the issue seems settled now | 01:36 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, why did you think it would kill it? previous mass joins have shown that they simply do their spam with what they've managed to get in | 01:36 |
| LjL | only if they're registered elkbuntu | 01:36 |
| LjL | which i (stupidly, if you want) assumed they weren't | 01:36 |
| nalioth | these were all registered, too | 01:37 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, with bots, i find it's best to assume the worst. i think nalioth would agree | 01:37 |
| nalioth | er, they _were_ registered | 01:37 |
| mneptok | y0 p33pz lol 5houtz 2 h0mez rofl lataz | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | mneptok: ok, I marry you | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | ummm, what? | 01:38 |
| LjL | nalioth, i know, i said i *assumed* they weren't. it clearly showed to be a wrong assumption | 01:38 |
| * nalioth spilled some bleach in nickservs notebook | 01:38 | |
| Jack_Sparrow | LjL: Just a quick note.. I had no vested interest in your discussion... Just stopped in on my way out to say goodnight.. | 01:41 |
| LjL | heh ok :) goodnight | 01:41 |
| mneptok | and a hug? | 01:41 |
| * LjL now steps back | 01:41 | |
| Jack_Sparrow | Sure.. I give great hugs... ask my wife of 30 years... | 01:41 |
| mneptok | Jack_Sparrow: she stopped returning my ephone calls ~30 years ago | 01:42 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, atoponce said: no ops-#ubuntu-us is <reply> Help: atoponce etank jono nixternal pleia2 zelut | 02:10 |
| rabidweezle | please test me for the dcc exploit | 02:29 |
| rabidweezle | I was sent to some channel for it | 02:29 |
| rabidweezle | just got on my pc and followed the instructions | 02:30 |
| nalioth | guess not | 02:30 |
| nalioth | rabidweezle: have you restarted your client after making the changes? | 02:31 |
| rabidweezle | yep | 02:31 |
| rabidweezle | :/ | 02:31 |
| rabidweezle | I'm using xchat | 02:31 |
| rabidweezle | I set the port to the different port | 02:32 |
| rabidweezle | 8001 | 02:32 |
| nalioth | and you restarted it? | 02:32 |
| rabidweezle | looks like it reset itself | 02:32 |
| rabidweezle | :/ | 02:32 |
| nalioth | no | 02:32 |
| nalioth | click the [X] in the upper right corner | 02:33 |
| rabidweezle | I went back into the settings and it reverted | 02:33 |
| nalioth | the client has to be restarted after changing the port | 02:33 |
| rabidweezle | try it now? | 02:33 |
| rabidweezle | looks like it sticked | 02:34 |
| nalioth | let's see | 02:34 |
| rabidweezle | it's beyond bull that we have to do this | 02:34 |
| rabidweezle | * Received a malformed DCC request from nalioth. | 02:35 |
| rabidweezle | * Contents of packet: DCC SEND THISISNOTATESTOFTHESYSTEM | 02:35 |
| nalioth | rabidweezle: DO NOT DO THAT | 02:35 |
| * nalioth headdesks | 02:35 | |
| rabidweezle | do what? | 02:35 |
| stdin | don't copy and paste it back | 02:35 |
| nalioth | you just attacked everyone in this channel :( | 02:35 |
| rabidweezle | omg | 02:35 |
| rabidweezle | how in the heck | 02:35 |
| rabidweezle | sorry :( | 02:35 |
| rabidweezle | didn't know | 02:36 |
| rabidweezle | :) | 02:36 |
| rabidweezle | I mean :( | 02:36 |
| nalioth | lucky for us, we're all immune | 02:36 |
| * rabidweezle nods nods | 02:36 | |
| nalioth | rabidweezle: you can rejoin #ubuntu now, and thanks for putting up with us | 02:36 |
| rabidweezle | ok | 02:36 |
| rabidweezle | so is that exploit the server's fault? | 02:37 |
| nalioth | no | 02:37 |
| stdin | no, it's your routers fault :) but switching port works around that | 02:37 |
| nalioth | it's your router softwares doing | 02:38 |
| rabidweezle | my router is a laptop | 02:38 |
| rabidweezle | hooked to a hotspot | 02:38 |
| rabidweezle | so it's their router's fault | 02:38 |
| rabidweezle | lol | 02:38 |
| rabidweezle | is there a way to fix the router? (I can login to it) | 02:39 |
| stdin | if there is an update to it's firmware then it *may* have a fix, but it may not | 02:39 |
| nalioth | there is about a 50% success rate with new firmware | 02:39 |
| rabidweezle | I shouldn't mess with it's firmware since well, I just can't knock on my neighbor's door and go, "Can you reset your router?" | 02:40 |
| rabidweezle | hehe | 02:41 |
| nalioth | resetting the port is the surefire method, anyway | 02:41 |
| rabidweezle | for sure | 02:41 |
| rabidweezle | thanks for keeping us informed, and death to the trolls that are doing this to us | 02:41 |
| rabidweezle | but WHY would they attack us? | 02:42 |
| rabidweezle | I mean, it's not like it don't auto-rejoin... ...and we are just the nice opensource guys | 02:42 |
| rabidweezle | unless microsoft hired alot of 9 year old hackers *starts a conspiracy theory* | 02:43 |
| * rabidweezle stops and just toddles off to the offtopic channel | 02:43 | |
| rabidweezle | thanks again | 02:43 |
| TheFishy | hello u guys think i have some sort of dcc bug on my router.... | 02:45 |
| TheFishy | i have read the fix but i want to know more about it | 02:46 |
| stdin | TheFishy: just wait for an ubuntu op to wake up | 02:49 |
| TheFishy | well i just want to know more about it... do u know about it? | 02:49 |
| stdin | what do you want to know? | 02:50 |
| TheFishy | well is the exploit just purely from connecting through the 6667 port? | 02:50 |
| stdin | no, it's a bug in your routers software | 02:50 |
| stdin | connecting on a different port is a workaround to that | 02:51 |
| === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso | ||
| TheFishy | my routers software? its a netgear with the highest firmware | 02:51 |
| stdin | well it has a bug, one they haven't bothered to fix | 02:51 |
| TheFishy | what can happen if i dont fix it? | 02:52 |
| stdin | when someone attacks #ubuntu it will force your connection to the server to drop | 02:52 |
| mneptok | it can be exploited | 02:52 |
| stdin | all the exploit is, is it will disconnect you | 02:53 |
| TheFishy | i haven't been dropped from this server yet... | 02:53 |
| stdin | and then you'll be banned from #ubuntu and sent to #ubuntu-read-topic when that happens | 02:53 |
| stdin | if you were sent to #ubuntu-read-topic, then it was | 02:54 |
| stdin | "[00:39] <-- TheFishy has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))" | 02:54 |
| stdin | (time's in UTC) | 02:54 |
| TheFishy | that was just peer... | 02:57 |
| TheFishy | peer always restarts people | 02:57 |
| stdin | you are the peer :) | 02:57 |
| TheFishy | O_o | 02:58 |
| TheFishy | hmm | 02:58 |
| stdin | it means your router reset the connection suddenly | 02:58 |
| ubotu | etank called the ops in #ubuntu-us () | 03:00 |
| Vorian | disregard ^ | 03:00 |
| TheFIshy | ok so i installed new firmware | 03:18 |
| TheFIshy | any way to test this exploit? | 03:18 |
| nalioth | TheFIshy: sure | 03:19 |
| nalioth | TheFIshy: guess you need to switch to port 8001 | 03:21 |
| TheFIshy | ugh lame is this on all irc servers | 03:21 |
| nalioth | TheFIshy: this is in your router | 03:22 |
| TheFIshy | that makes no sense | 03:22 |
| TheFIshy | what ports do i block to stop it? | 03:22 |
| === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso | ||
| Pici | he could block 6667 and 8001, that would work /me snickers | 04:14 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, nealmcb said: !mail server is <reply> Ubuntu provides mail client and mail server software of all kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation or with the tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html | 06:32 |
| nealmcb | I'm teaching ubotu about some server stuff, which the server team has been discussing recently - see the "factoids" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap | 06:33 |
| nealmcb | The next server team meeting is at 16:00 UTC later today. I'm headed to bed now and will part here, but I'll stay logged in overnight if you want to leave a message. Thanks! | 07:00 |
| === SWAT__ is now known as SWAT | ||
| Kagar | LjL -- how long was my ban set for? | 07:44 |
| Kagar | ..or if any of the other ops know? ... :( | 07:46 |
| Kagar | may I be allowed to join Ubuntu-offtopic again? | 08:17 |
| Gary | Kagar, LjL set the ban, I cannot see why | 08:25 |
| PriceChild | kahryten has gone to the ML btw. (nalioth ljl mneptok) | 09:46 |
| PriceChild | <bqmassey> in #ubuntu.... asking for help compiling a porn dialer | 10:03 |
| Gary | lol | 10:04 |
| * Hobbsee wishes people would actually read the topics, and not act surprised when they get punished for not following them. | 10:56 | |
| Gary | wheres the topic again? | 10:56 |
| * Hobbsee beats Gary | 10:58 | |
| Gary | mmm | 10:58 |
| Gary | help, help, I'm being repressed! | 10:58 |
| === GazzaK is now known as Gary | ||
| ubotu | Juhaz called the ops in #ubuntu () | 11:36 |
| ikonia | morning | 12:10 |
| ikonia | afternoon actually , just | 12:10 |
| * jussi01 sighs at the guy on the ML... | 12:50 | |
| elkbuntu | jussi01, yeah, we saw. we suspect it's probably a freenode issue now | 12:51 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: ahhh... k Just read up and saw PriceChild's comments | 12:52 |
| elkbuntu | yeah, i spoke with him in PM about it already | 12:52 |
| Seeker` | why is it a freenode issue now? | 12:53 |
| elkbuntu | Seeker`, he decided to flood a staffer | 12:53 |
| PriceChild | Seeker`, then k-lined | 12:53 |
| Seeker` | ah, ok | 12:55 |
| === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | ||
| Gary | whats the linky to the ban tracker? (and is it working right at the mo?) | 13:00 |
| Seeker` | @btlogin | 13:00 |
| PriceChild | Seeker`, ubotu gets rid of spaces no? | 13:01 |
| elkbuntu | !ping | 13:01 |
| ubotu | pong | 13:01 |
| elkbuntu | no | 13:01 |
| Gary | @btlogin I don't think this works for me? | 13:01 |
| ubotu | Invalid arguments for btlogin. | 13:01 |
| Seeker` | I didn't get a pm from ubotu | 13:01 |
| Seeker` | @btlogin | 13:01 |
| Gary | @btlogin | 13:01 |
| Daviey | @btlogin | 13:02 |
| Gary | yeah, the bot hates me - <ubotu> Error: Authntication failed | 13:02 |
| elkbuntu | the bantracker is moody at the best of times | 13:02 |
| Gary | damit, thats one more, and thats a bot... :'( | 13:02 |
| elkbuntu | Gary, he hates us all equally, if that helps any? | 13:02 |
| Gary | I wanted to look at Kagar's ban notes | 13:03 |
| Seeker` | Gary: is there anything specific you want to know? | 13:03 |
| Seeker` | ah, ok | 13:03 |
| PriceChild | Gary, do you have a login to the bantracker? | 13:03 |
| Gary | PriceChild, nope :'( | 13:03 |
| PriceChild | as in did seveas turn it on for you? | 13:03 |
| Gary | no | 13:03 |
| PriceChild | Gary, poke him next time you see him to then | 13:04 |
| Gary | will do | 13:04 |
| Seveas | no, you can't have a pony | 13:07 |
| ikonia | Seveas: are you dishing out coal ? | 13:37 |
| elkbuntu | no, pony dung | 13:40 |
| elkbuntu | it may or may not be fossilised | 13:40 |
| ikonia | either way a generous offer from Seveas | 13:42 |
| Gary | Seveas, but I wanna pony | 14:20 |
| ikonia | I want doesn't get | 14:21 |
| Gary | meh | 14:21 |
| Gary | yay pony | 14:23 |
| Myrtti | hihi | 14:24 |
| Pici | Hi! | 14:25 |
| Gary | donkey donkey donkey | 14:25 |
| ikonia | badger badger badger | 14:26 |
| Hobbsee | MUSHROOM MUSHROOM | 14:26 |
| Hobbsee | ! | 14:26 |
| ikonia | ha ha,just seen Hobbsee's kick message | 14:26 |
| * Gary cries | 14:26 | |
| ikonia | I missed that first time | 14:26 |
| * Pici pats ikonia | 14:26 | |
| ikonia | sorry, I'm clearly slow | 14:26 |
| ikonia | Pici: although the pat is appriciated | 14:27 |
| Gary | Hobbsee is just a big 'orrid bully | 14:30 |
| Tm_T | . | 14:30 |
| Gary | see | 14:30 |
| Gary | I refer you, kind sir/madam to the /topic of #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:31 |
| LjL | bad hobbsee, repressing gary. go sit in a corner | 14:32 |
| Gary | lol | 14:32 |
| Gary | boring | 14:32 |
| ikonia | repressed in a Python style ? | 14:32 |
| Hobbsee | ROFL! | 14:33 |
| ikonia | a bit of fun to lighten the day | 14:33 |
| ikonia | nice | 14:33 |
| Gary | I wish to make a complaint | 14:42 |
| * Pici files Gary in triplicate | 14:43 | |
| Gary | I feel that the bantracker might have slighty un justified bans :p | 14:43 |
| * Gary got scared when he searched for Gary/GazzaK | 14:44 | |
| ubotu | In ubotu, nealmcb said: !JeOS is <reply> JeOS (pronounced "Juice") is Just enough Operating System. It is an efficient variant of the Ubuntu Server operating system, configured specifically for virtual appliances. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos for more information. | 14:44 |
| Pici | !jeos | 14:44 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 14:44 |
| LjL | it really means just enough operating system? | 14:44 |
| nealmcb | yup | 14:44 |
| Pici | yes iirc | 14:44 |
| Daviey | LjL: yes | 14:45 |
| * LjL refuses to add the factoid due to the hideously horrid name | 14:45 | |
| Pici | !JeOS is <reply> JeOS (pronounced "Juice") is Just enough Operating System. It is an efficient variant of the Ubuntu Server operating system, configured specifically for virtual appliances. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos for more information. | 14:45 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, Pici | 14:45 |
| * Daviey suggests LjL stops being an authorised add-er then :) | 14:45 | |
| * LjL thinks he has a right to not add factoids he finds ugly | 14:46 | |
| ikonia | Pici: what do you class as a virualised appliance ? | 14:46 |
| LjL | ikonia: anything that needs a buzzword | 14:47 |
| * Pici shrugs | 14:47 | |
| ikonia | fair enough | 14:47 |
| ikonia | never heard that term | 14:47 |
| ikonia | I was thinking like a virtualised palm pilot or something like that | 14:48 |
| ikonia | or a video recorder | 14:48 |
| LjL | ikonia i think vmware mostly started the term | 14:48 |
| LjL | with player | 14:48 |
| ikonia | so a nonsense phrase then | 14:48 |
| nealmcb | I've got a bunch of other factoids at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap for the server team. Mathias said to put the ones that are ready in now, and update later as necessary. Should I add them, or ask you to do it and the updates? | 14:49 |
| LjL | ikonia, mostly. the idea, i think, is that you have systems that do something pretty specific (the typical example is a web browsing kiosk) running on a VM to avoid messing up with the real machine | 14:49 |
| ikonia | LjL: an interesting though, but seeing as unusal kit like that normally has problems due to the hardware, virtualisation doesn't seem a good resource to me | 14:50 |
| LjL | nealmcb, i'm going to review and add in #ubuntu-bots (to avoid people crying "spam" in here) | 14:50 |
| nealmcb | LjL: cool | 14:50 |
| LjL | ikonia, you're the past, virtual appliances are the future. 'nuff said | 14:51 |
| * ikonia retires | 14:51 | |
| nealmcb | see you later..... | 14:53 |
| nealmcb | (and in bot-land) | 14:53 |
| nalioth | Pici: you can pull that last ban | 15:40 |
| Pici | nalioth: thanks for the update | 15:40 |
| nalioth | jrib: they're all being klined | 15:45 |
| jrib | ah | 15:45 |
| Pici | nalioth: this happening across freenode? or just here? | 15:46 |
| nalioth | afaik #ubuntu | 15:46 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-kernel, FlashBiker said: ubotu: so there is no kernel that supports my hardware? | 16:09 |
| Myrtti | !bot > FlashBiker | 16:09 |
| Pici | !bot > FlashBiker | 16:09 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 16:09 |
| Myrtti | gotcha | 16:09 |
| Myrtti | Pici: hrmh | 16:11 |
| jpatrick | lorddarkpat_ and deuryte are beening quite rowdy on #kubuntu, stuff like: AOL sucks! winblows! | 16:51 |
| Pici | Amaranth: do you have alacarte on hilight? or just happen to be watching? (I know you made it) | 16:51 |
| jpatrick | should I !language them? | 16:52 |
| Pici | jpatrick: !offtopic, !ettiquite | 16:52 |
| Pici | etiquette actually (oops) | 16:52 |
| Amaranth | Pici: yeah, it's on highlight | 16:52 |
| Pici | Just curious | 16:53 |
| jpatrick | Pici: too late! | 16:53 |
| Amaranth | so is willow | 16:53 |
| Amaranth | i should probably put compiz and fusion in there too | 16:53 |
| Pici | I think you'll regret that | 16:53 |
| Amaranth | oh, right, i'm in #compiz-fusion | 16:56 |
| * Amaranth drops that | 16:56 | |
| Amaranth | i wish i could do per-channel highlights | 16:56 |
| * ikonia patches x-chat for per-channel | 16:57 | |
| * Pici needs to fix his 'troll' hilight, it keeps picking up words like 'controller' | 17:00 | |
| === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick | ||
| ikonia | potential troll mindshift | 18:26 |
| ikonia | can someone check if he has history | 18:26 |
| * Pici checks | 18:26 | |
| ikonia | ta | 18:26 |
| ikonia | he's getting more relevant, perhaps I'm wrong | 18:26 |
| LjL | no history | 18:28 |
| ikonia | he's getting a bit more "with it" now | 18:28 |
| ikonia | very random and argumentative before | 18:28 |
| ikonia | just checking | 18:28 |
| ikonia | ta | 18:28 |
| nalioth | 'no history' means nothing when new nicks are just an enter key away | 18:30 |
| ikonia | no, but it never hurts to check before jumping to a conflusion | 18:31 |
| ikonia | he's early comments suggested he'd come in for a fight | 18:31 |
| ikonia | his | 18:31 |
| ikonia | hence the check | 18:31 |
| LjL | well when i implement mindreading i'll be able to help better | 18:31 |
| ikonia | but then he started to get with it a bit more with it | 18:31 |
| ikonia | ahh I see Pici has picked up on it too | 18:32 |
| === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick | ||
| Pici | LjL: presumably so he can prove that you are picking on him. | 19:30 |
| LjL | Pici: right channel to say that in, surely. | 19:30 |
| Pici | Or at least thats my guess. | 19:30 |
| LjL | also, surely i insisted for him to join -ops rather than keeping PM'ing me for precisely that reason | 19:30 |
| LjL | yet he kept refusing | 19:30 |
| LjL | i'm going for dinner, please make sure he doesn't stay offtopic on #ubuntu for very long | 19:30 |
| Pici | Surely. | 19:31 |
| pieisgood4589 | Hi | 20:19 |
| pieisgood4589 | I need help. | 20:19 |
| pieisgood4589 | I tried to connect to the "#ubuntu" | 20:19 |
| pieisgood4589 | channel | 20:19 |
| pieisgood4589 | but its not letting me | 20:19 |
| pieisgood4589 | It says I'm blocked when I've never connected to that channel before. | 20:20 |
| ompaul | let me look | 20:20 |
| pieisgood4589 | Ok | 20:20 |
| pieisgood4589 | Thank you | 20:20 |
| pieisgood4589 | Hello? | 20:21 |
| pieisgood4589 | Are you still there? | 20:21 |
| ompaul | yes | 20:21 |
| ompaul | let me look | 20:21 |
| pieisgood4589 | Ok, thanks again. | 20:22 |
| ompaul | please wait a min or two - have to wait for a machine to work | 20:24 |
| pieisgood4589 | Thank you again. | 20:24 |
| ompaul | trying to find a ban | 20:26 |
| ompaul | do you want to try and join can't see anything obvious at the moment | 20:26 |
| pieisgood4589 | Ok | 20:27 |
| ompaul | were you trying with that nick? | 20:27 |
| pieisgood4589 | Yes | 20:28 |
| ompaul | I can't see a reason for you not being able to get in | 20:28 |
| pieisgood4589 | ok... | 20:29 |
| ompaul | I'll look again | 20:29 |
| pieisgood4589 | hmmm | 20:29 |
| pieisgood4589 | I don't know why | 20:30 |
| pieisgood4589 | It keeps saying "Cannot join #ubuntu (you are banned) | 20:30 |
| * ompaul goes to look at the ban list again | 20:30 | |
| pieisgood4589 | Ok | 20:30 |
| ompaul | I can't find a ban that matches you in any way | 20:35 |
| * ompaul prods some other ops | 20:36 | |
| Gary | there isn't one for *@*.verison.net is there :p | 20:36 |
| ompaul | there will be one for gary@planetearth real soon :P | 20:36 |
| Gary | meh | 20:36 |
| ompaul | Gary, have a look I can't see a thing | 20:36 |
| ompaul | pieisgood4589, kinda hard to remove a ban if you can't find it :-( | 20:37 |
| pieisgood4589 | Oh. | 20:37 |
| pieisgood4589 | Can you check if anything else is wrong? | 20:37 |
| pieisgood4589 | Anything at all? | 20:37 |
| pieisgood4589 | Or should I contact other help? | 20:37 |
| ompaul | pieisgood4589, other such as? we control the gateway and I can't see your nick in *any* list or any other part of your id | 20:38 |
| ompaul | pieisgood4589, got a ubuntu live cd? | 20:39 |
| pieisgood4589 | Yes | 20:39 |
| Gary | I cannot see any ban which jumps out either ompaul | 20:39 |
| Gary | pieisgood4589, have you been able to connect? | 20:39 |
| ompaul | care to boot your machine from that and then try to join - if you get in let me know it will give me something more specific to look at | 20:39 |
| pieisgood4589 | OK | 20:40 |
| pieisgood4589 | One moment | 20:40 |
| pieisgood4589 | Ok | 20:49 |
| pieisgood4589 | I am connected in the Live CD | 20:49 |
| pieisgood4589 | But I can't connect to #ubuntu with my installed system | 20:50 |
| pieisgood4589 | I don't know why | 20:50 |
| stdin | you seem to have a different hostname than before | 20:50 |
| pieisgood4589 | Hmmm | 20:50 |
| pieisgood4589 | This time i used GAIM, last time I used XChat | 20:50 |
| pieisgood4589 | Would that make a difference? | 20:50 |
| stdin | no, that wouldn't effect it | 20:50 |
| pieisgood4589 | OK | 20:50 |
| mc44 | er... you changed from verizon to comcast | 20:51 |
| mc44 | that might do it :) | 20:51 |
| pieisgood4589 | OH | 20:51 |
| pieisgood4589 | OK | 20:51 |
| pieisgood4589 | I connected to the wrong Wireless network | 20:51 |
| pieisgood4589 | One moment | 20:51 |
| ompaul | and drop the pie is good stuff might be useful | 20:51 |
| pieisgood4581 | OK | 20:52 |
| pieisgood4581 | Here we go | 20:52 |
| pieisgood4581 | Now I'm connected to the same network | 20:52 |
| pieisgood4581 | And I'm banned | 20:52 |
| pieisgood4581 | Still banned... | 20:52 |
| pieisgood4581 | Even in the LiveCD | 20:53 |
| ompaul | okay that points to the IP | 20:53 |
| pieisgood4581 | ... | 20:53 |
| * ompaul goes again | 20:53 | |
| pieisgood4581 | Lol | 20:53 |
| ompaul | ban took place in october | 20:55 |
| ompaul | that was strange | 20:56 |
| pieisgood4581 | Oh... | 20:56 |
| pieisgood4581 | And I'm still banned? | 20:56 |
| ompaul | you can reboot I will remove the ban - however | 20:56 |
| pieisgood4581 | ... | 20:56 |
| pieisgood4581 | What | 20:56 |
| ompaul | just understand | 20:56 |
| ompaul | !coc | 20:56 |
| ubotu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 20:56 |
| ompaul | or | 20:56 |
| pieisgood4581 | OK | 20:56 |
| ompaul | !guidelines | they are usefl | 20:56 |
| ubotu | they are usefl: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 20:56 |
| pieisgood4581 | I'll take a look. Thank you very much. | 20:56 |
| LjL | ompaul: so it was a ban on the very same IP? | 21:04 |
| ompaul | it was | 21:05 |
| pieisgood4589_ | It says I am banned after just joining the channel | 21:05 |
| ompaul | pieisgood4589_, you were told you were offtopic -- it is a tech support channel not a chat channel | 21:05 |
| pieisgood4589_ | It says that I was banned by "ompaul" | 21:05 |
| pieisgood4589_ | ? | 21:05 |
| pieisgood4589_ | Oh... | 21:05 |
| pieisgood4589_ | Sorry... | 21:05 |
| ompaul | * [h4x0r7h1s] (n=h4x0r7h1@static-70-17-254-78.bltmmd.east.verizon.net): purple | 21:06 |
| ompaul | that ip is not getting back | 21:07 |
| ompaul | for a while | 21:07 |
| mc44 | ompaul: he's in offtopic ;) | 21:07 |
| ompaul | mc44, I only banned him from #ubuntu | 21:08 |
| ompaul | I don't play chasing | 21:08 |
| * mc44 chases ompaul | 21:10 | |
| * somerville32 hugs mc44 | 21:10 | |
| * ompaul stands stock still | 21:11 | |
| LjL | ompaul, err, except it wasn't the *same* ip. i was just scanning for people on east.verizon.net, and his nickname looked interesting. | 21:12 |
| ompaul | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 21:12 |
| ikonia | pirate paul ? | 21:12 |
| ompaul | ikonia, na | 21:13 |
| ikonia | thought it was arrrrrrr me hearty | 21:13 |
| LjL | ompaul, i'll be more verbose next time i paste an address :P | 21:13 |
| ompaul | LjL, I am blind this evening | 21:14 |
| * ikonia flicks the V's at ompaul | 21:14 | |
| ompaul | ikonia, it will take more than vs | 21:15 |
| ikonia | ;) | 21:15 |
| * LjL flicks the W's at ompaul | 21:15 | |
| ikonia | ha ha | 21:15 |
| ikonia | LjL: please don't use language like W's, this is a family friendly channel | 21:15 |
| LjL | www | 21:16 |
| ikonia | !ohmy | ljl | 21:16 |
| ubotu | ljl: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 21:16 |
| ikonia | ;) | 21:16 |
| ompaul | but not ompaul friendly | 21:16 |
| ompaul | you could not cope with that | 21:16 |
| ompaul | :P | 21:16 |
| ikonia | everywhere is ompaul friendly | 21:17 |
| ikonia | you are a national treasure | 21:17 |
| somerville32 | 0_o | 21:17 |
| ompaul | ikonia, the only ompaul in village | 21:17 |
| LjL | www.os-ohmy.com | 21:17 |
| * ompaul rofl | 21:17 | |
| ompaul | ikonia, I just worked out another gag in that tv program - village people | 21:18 |
| ompaul | .... | 21:18 |
| ompaul | ohhhhhh nooooooooooo | 21:18 |
| * ompaul head desks | 21:18 | |
| ikonia | :( | 21:18 |
| ikonia | your status as a national treasure is in jepordy | 21:18 |
| ompaul | ikonia, it is funny | 21:18 |
| ikonia | ok | 21:19 |
| ikonia | I'll take your word | 21:19 |
| ikonia | explain | 21:19 |
| mneptok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Njt92wgmU | 21:19 |
| ompaul | ikonia, in my mind it happens this way anyway | 21:20 |
| ompaul | :) | 21:22 |
| ompaul | ikonia, ? | 21:26 |
| ompaul | ikonia, you know I was just wondering, kinda sorta having a think, as you might think that I might think, and I want to know, since when am I an sql command string? | 21:27 |
| ompaul | explain that! | 21:27 |
| LjL | doing it for you | 21:28 |
| ompaul | no thanks | 21:29 |
| LjL | (how come i could see you speaking anyway) | 21:29 |
| ompaul | voiced | 21:30 |
| LjL | ah whops right. | 21:30 |
| ompaul | oppage | 21:30 |
| LjL | well no you weren't opped, but you were definitely voiced | 21:30 |
| ikonia | does voicing overwrite ban ? | 21:32 |
| jdong | mute | 21:32 |
| jdong | you cna't mute a voiced person | 21:32 |
| ikonia | overrule I should say | 21:32 |
| ikonia | ahh | 21:32 |
| crdlb | you can't ban a voiced person either | 21:32 |
| ikonia | really | 21:32 |
| ikonia | so if you ban and kick a voiced person can he re-join | 21:33 |
| crdlb | no | 21:33 |
| ikonia | ahhh because he's not got voice untli he joins | 21:33 |
| Myrtti | merh | 21:33 |
| ompaul | Myrtti, as in here | 21:38 |
| jdong | crdlb: what do you mean, you can't ban a voiced person? | 21:38 |
| jdong | they can't exactly get back in after you kick em :) | 21:38 |
| crdlb | I mean that they can still speak even with a full ban | 21:39 |
| jdong | crdlb: ah, ok, I guess what I'm calling mute is what you call ban | 21:39 |
| LjL | that's what he means | 21:40 |
| jdong | wait, if you're not voiced, you can't speak with a ban against you? | 21:41 |
| LjL | jdong: no. | 21:41 |
| LjL | ban > mute | 21:41 |
| jdong | oh | 21:41 |
| jdong | shows my IRC newbness then :D | 21:41 |
| LjL | ban doesn't let you speak *and* doesn't let you goin | 21:41 |
| LjL | join even | 21:41 |
| LjL | mute just doesn't let you speak | 21:41 |
| jdong | ok, that makes sense | 21:41 |
| LjL | still voice overrides either | 21:42 |
| LjL | though of course no amount of being voiced will let you join a channel you're banned from | 21:42 |
| LjL | still it's already the second time in two days i see unpleasant business going on with wols involved | 21:45 |
| LjL | pf | 21:45 |
| ompaul | LjL, talk with me | 21:47 |
| ompaul | pm | 21:47 |
| bodhi_zazen | 'lo all | 22:03 |
| LjL | hello | 22:04 |
| ikonia | LjL: chin up :) | 22:07 |
| LjL | ikonia: say wha? | 22:09 |
| ikonia | LjL: vocal support "keep your chin up" you sounded down due to todays dealings | 22:09 |
| LjL | hm well nah i'm fine, trolls amuse me. but keeping a better posture will probably help my wrist | 22:10 |
| ikonia | ha | 22:11 |
| ikonia | LjL: I think you have to be an English guy to get "chin up" | 22:11 |
| LjL | yeah even m-w doesn't really give any metaphorical meaning | 22:11 |
| ikonia | m-w ? | 22:12 |
| LjL | merriam webster | 22:13 |
| ikonia | ahhh | 22:14 |
| LjL | you know, what everybody uses as their online english dictionary :P | 22:14 |
| ikonia | yes, I know it now | 22:14 |
| ikonia | m-w was just a new name for it | 22:14 |
| LjL | well it's what the site is called | 22:15 |
| ikonia | always good to know | 22:15 |
| LjL | i'd use oxford but they charge for online lookup :) | 22:17 |
| ikonia | really | 22:17 |
| ikonia | tad naughty | 22:17 |
| * mc44 has a password ;) | 22:17 | |
| LjL | or, i could use paper dictionaries but i never really learn alphabetical ordering | 22:17 |
| LjL | mc44 surely doesn't need one being the literate genius he is | 22:18 |
| mc44 | sometimes even I don't know obscure 12th century definitions | 22:18 |
| LjL | shows how not even a superhuman being could have knowledge of everything doesn't it | 22:19 |
| LjL | anybody knows what is the proper procedure to get ubuntulog in a channel? just mail the address given? | 22:24 |
| Seeker` | LjL: http://www.askoxford.com | 22:33 |
| LjL | Seeker`: ah nice... any idea how compact it is compared to the non-compact dictionary? | 22:35 |
| Seeker` | none | 22:35 |
| Seeker` | but it seems to have quite a bit | 22:35 |
| LjL | yeah it has chin up as a figurative expression at least | 22:36 |
| Seeker` | I believe it is the compact one | 22:37 |
| LjL | it is | 22:37 |
| Seeker` | but it feels a bit more authorative than dictionary.com | 22:38 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: how cold are you tonight ? | 22:39 |
| Seeker` | ikonia: not too bad | 22:39 |
| LjL | uhm never used that, always stuck to m-w | 22:39 |
| Seeker` | had the heating on full since 1pm though | 22:39 |
| Seeker` | ikonia: how are you? | 22:40 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: cold, heating on now, and fire lit | 22:41 |
| === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick | ||
| Seeker` | cool | 22:45 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: very cool actually | 22:46 |
| Seeker` | i meant the fire :P | 22:46 |
| ikonia | no no, thats hot | 22:47 |
| ikonia | ;) | 22:47 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: you should pop around one evening for a mince pie and some mulled wine | 22:50 |
| Seeker` | i've got stuff planned every evening for the rest of the week | 22:50 |
| Seeker` | and then i'm visiting my parents | 22:50 |
| ikonia | ahhh well | 22:52 |
| ikonia | just a christmas hand offered | 22:52 |
| Seeker` | thanks for the offer :) | 22:52 |
| ikonia | not at all | 22:52 |
| stdin | LjL: the "new" factoid would be something like: | 23:41 |
| stdin | If you're trying to install KDE4 RC2 but getting errors about files being overwritten, first remove all the KDE4 packages using the !Terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal | 23:41 |
| stdin | I don't like it being that long, but that about explains it | 23:42 |
| LjL | !no brokenkde4 is <reply> If you get errors about files being overwritten when installing KDE4 RC2, first use the !terminal to remove old KDE4 packages: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime ». Then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ». Then install KDE4 as normal. | 23:44 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that LjL | 23:44 |
| stdin | I'm going for the longest factoid record :p | 23:45 |
| stdin | now !automatix is shortened I think I have a chance | 23:45 |
| LjL | well as long as it's "temporary fix" factoids, i think it's ok | 23:46 |
| stdin | it should be, when riddell updates the announcement page it should no longer be needed | 23:47 |
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