[00:59] slow channel is sloooow [01:00] ? [01:00] seems everyone is on holiday [01:00] yea i guess [01:03] hey i installed xfce4 after using ubuntu for a while, and now on my desktop i have duplicates of ever icon, device and such, anyway to fix this? [01:15] is there a way to know for sure which one is real and which one may be the duplicate or symlink if you could tell you may just be able to delete them and see if they pop back up on a restart [01:15] it hasnt happened to me so i dont really know where to look for a solution [01:35] soldats: when you ls -l a a symlink will start with an l in the permissions part [01:36] like so... -- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-12-10 12:49 /etc/rc2.d/S16ssh -> ../init.d/ssh [01:47] guy what command will tell me just how much storage a device has? [01:47] xfc file system [01:47] xfs*** [01:47] df [01:47] err du rather [01:48] no, I am loosing my mind.. the first was right [01:48] df [01:49] thanks zoredache [01:49] what unit is that? [01:50] lots of figures no unit of measurement [01:54] in the gui. properties it shows its all there used, and free but no total [01:55] anyway I successfully set up my raid 5 server 1.8TB avilable space I am so happy with how stable ubuntu is [01:56] I grew it from 4 drives copied some files over then grew it to 5 drives It used probably a total of 30hours in reshapping and growing but everything went without a hitch. I am now a huge fan of the command line :) [01:56] thyrax: try df -h [01:57] wow that was perfect thanks thurxton! [01:57] 1.9TB! :) [01:57] formatted raid 5 [01:57] xfs [01:58] * thyrax is so proud of himself and is sorry for the spam [01:58] nice [01:59] :D [02:09] thanks zoredache and thruxton you guys in here have been a huge huge help! I'm going to go work on customizing my ubuntu desktop. :D === thyrax is now known as thyrax_afk [02:16] Hi I still have some problems with thunar (it hs e.g. currently freezed up), I believe tha problem has, as someone suggested, to do with the that I mount and use ntfs drives. I have been to the linux-ntfs but I havent' found anything there, and neither has google been any helpfull. [02:16] I was wondering if any one else is experiencing this preoblem? (when actively using a ntfs drive with a linux program)? [02:18] One strange thing: when I was logged in win2k I saw that the folder hda1 (c:) under my d: (which is hdb1 in Xubuntu), that is, the c: had been copied to the d: [02:18] The strange thing is this: I haven't touched the hda1, I have no reason toit holds [02:18] *it holds windows, and windows software [02:20] Why did Xubuntu do that? I could understand why Tunar is running slow if it is being is dublicating files in the background like that... [02:33] Hehe, I just found a entry in Ubuntu forums where somewhene found it easier to work with thunar on ntfs. Maybe there is a problem with my thunar install? [02:43] Anyone? Please this is important, I can't work with Xubuntu if it keeps freezing up... === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [03:19] hmm trying to play this video and it says "The playback of this movie requires a application/x-rar decoder plugin which is not installed." [03:20] maybe the video is really a RAR archive [03:22] ahh I think your right [03:22] :) [03:22] crap it had some sort of rar password that I didn't know now the file is deleted... [03:22] wtf [03:23] perhaps its in /tmp? [03:23] your rar program deletes the file if you don't know the password? [03:23] no I think it was moving it then going to extract and just assumed there is no such thing as passwords or that I will definately succeed [03:23] now to dig around and find what it did with it [03:23] incidentally, WinRAR has code in it that turns off your computer [03:24] ? [03:24] I dunno in what situation that code is executed though :S [03:24] I hate rar format.. [03:25] any idea how I can recover a backup of that data that was deleted? [03:28] I have no experience in that area [03:28] the unrar I use doesn't do anything unless you know the right password [03:28] perhaps magicrescue will work [03:29] seems like a lot of work just to see naked people having sex [03:29] :P [03:29] ah darn no gui for this :( === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [03:35] grr the password was in the email message x( [03:35] okay no clue how to work this magicrescue thing [03:37] life is too short to try and resurrect deleted data [03:38] just let it go [03:40] apparently if I had used lsof while it was asking for a password I could have ripped the data from its greedy little hands [03:41] http://www.linux.com/articles/58142?tid=47 [03:44] How do I activate something like " CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet" in Xubuntu? [03:45] I know this is xubuntu but is there no way to list files in gnome's nautilus? [03:46] like a list in windows there is only compact mode which doesn't help... [03:46] <_slvmch3> why not just use Thunar? i think that's the default [03:46] I am running ubuntu on the system in question not xubuntu ;p [03:46] <_slvmch3> ah ok [03:47] <_slvmch3> you can't get it to list files? is it showing icons or just nothing? [03:47] Is there a way to add a list feature? would be much more convinient [03:47] <_slvmch3> there should be a setting in the 'view' menu to to get the typical windows-like view settings, list, icons, etc. [03:47] <_slvmch3> but i might be mistaken, haven't used gnome in a while [03:47] install thunar? >,> [03:47] <_slvmch3> ahhaha [03:47] kinda hard sorting 1.9TB of data with huge icons [03:48] <_slvmch3> worse comes to worst just /dir in xterm [03:48] ha no thunar for me [03:48] don't automatically render the icons? [03:48] create ext3 indexes of that directory? [03:48] try an alternate file system for lots of small files hmm is it jpeg specifically? [03:49] (I found a thread in Ubuntu forums that maybe can solve my problem; The CPU automatically increases it speed when there is more demand for it....; I need to find ut if Xubuntu does this too, and how I can fix it (thus using soemthing like CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor)) [03:50] userXubuntu: run a game and cat /proc/cpuinfo see if its going at max if not your not running the right sort of game :) [03:51] if its a laptop it probably does that to lower heat and save power [03:51] I selected set to default under view and then was able to select list :) [03:51] thanks guys for the suggestions [03:56] <_slvmch3> you know userXubuntu i had the same problem [03:56] <_slvmch3> i had an app that would output a jpeg every frame of a video, so between 20-30 jpegs a second depending on the framerate [03:56] <_slvmch3> after a bit i'd end up with like 10000 images in a folder [03:56] <_slvmch3> and if i opened the folder it crashed it [03:56] How did you solve it? [03:56] <_slvmch3> and i ended up having to /dir in xterm to check the files [03:56] <_slvmch3> i never really did [03:57] <_slvmch3> turning off thumbnails helped i think [03:57] Oh... [03:57] <_slvmch3> but ultimately with that many files it would bog down my machine [03:57] <_slvmch3> this was a slow box too so i'm not sure if i'd have the smae problem on this new laptop [03:57] <_slvmch3> but i think turning off thumbnails will save you lots of overhead [03:58] <_slvmch3> and although this would be a crap workaround, maybe you could write a bash script to parse the multitude of files into a set number of folders [03:58] i believe more of the fact that when the system tries to generate that many thumbnails it will overload itself on slower machines [03:58] <_slvmch3> so you can view 1/10th of the files at a time [03:58] I don't think my problem is related to number of files, or files in generall but I'll try your suggestion (it can't hurt can it ;)). [03:58] <_slvmch3> yeah that's what i'm thinking too soldats, this box had 1.3ghz athlon and 256 mb of ram [03:58] am I likely to encounter problems upgrading from xubuntu 6.06 to 7.10? [03:58] no [03:58] <_slvmch3> redwyrm: you shouldn't but i always make a point of backing up vital files before upgrading [03:59] redwyrm, well it depends on what you have [03:59] <_slvmch3> i had a few bugs when i had upgraded from dapper to edgy, but for gutsy i just did a fresh install (albeit on a different machine which is why) [03:59] <_slvmch3> edgy-feisty was fine [03:59] _slvmch3, thanks [03:59] it really depends on if you have a very easy install of earlier versions [04:00] <_slvmch3> yeah i had gone breezy -> dapper -> edgy -> feisty [04:00] <_slvmch3> but then my desktop died :-( [04:00] thats sucks [04:04] part of my city just sufered a power outtage for about an hour it was kinda cool having no lights anywhere at all [04:07] what city? [04:08] tucson, az [04:08] does it snow there?> [04:08] probly a block of 7 miles by 7 miles [04:09] in certain parts it does but never in the main part [04:09] the outskirts have snow, usually my band takes a trip[ to flagstaff, az and hang out in the snow for a few days [04:11] how big is az? [04:11] i guess i could just look at a map... [04:12] what is .conkyrc [04:12] how does it relate to compiz? [04:15] its probly related to compiz, open it in a text editor it might tell you if it is [04:16] az is about 1/3 of california [04:18] oh ok just wondering. :) [04:39] any 1 alive [04:40] maybe [04:48] hey guy whats a good bluetooth manager [04:51] anyone [04:52] does xubuntu have the same blootooth manager as gnome? [04:52] in gnomei believe there is one [04:56] humm any idea what its called/ [04:56] Alyxander, try asking in #ubuntu [04:57] ok [04:59] I'm trying to figure this CPU freq thing out, is this a software for linux OS or is this a BIOS feature? [05:06] pretty much all system no matter what OS it is have an sys monitor and it tells the CPU useage in a frequency scale [05:07] Yes, but I was thinkig about what these people are talking about "you might want to install the put the "cpu frequency scaling monitor" onto your taskpanel. My laptop is sluggy because it defaults to "ondemand" so 95% of the time my PentM 1.5 is running at 600 MHz." [05:08] I think I have the same problem. That is why my Xubuntu is so slow, and maybe that is why Thuner freezes sometimes. [05:09] The thread uri btw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112200) [05:09] *http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112200 [05:09] ok ubuntu doesnt know so [05:09] ? [05:13] userXubuntu, well saying to put scaling monitor on desktop is just a deasktop docker and i runs a very small version of sys monitor constantly [05:13] like gkrellm [05:14] <_slvmch3> soldats what kind of stuff do you play with your band [05:16] Oh sorry guys, I'm not quite following you on this: a system monitor only monitors the CPU/mmory/HD usage of the OS, yes? And are you saying that teh CPUfreq does the same thing? [05:17] _slvmch3, hmm well we pretty much mixed a few different older and new punk bands. ie. fugazi, rites of spring, hot water music, propagandhi, hot cross [05:17] if you liek punk old or new you may like it [05:18] userXubuntu, yea i believe so the frequency basically tells you everyting about the useage of the system in different frequency scales [05:18] userXubuntu, so if you open sys monitor and look at the wave lengths those are frequencies [05:20] OK, that I understand that, but the thread discusses that Ubuntu slows down the processor, is this true for Xubuntu? And how can I find out? [05:20] My problem is this: Xubuntu runs very slow, too slow. [05:23] userXubuntu, did you use ubuntu in the past? was it slow as well? [05:24] No, I wanted something small, clean and fast so I thaught I would go with Xubuntu. I expected, at least, that it would be faster then w2k. [05:24] In comparison w2k runs vey fast. [05:25] (my PC: AMD 1,2 GHz, 768RAM. [05:25] (Nvidia 128DDR) [05:25] I think there is something seriously wrong with my Xubuntu install, because it runs very slow. [05:26] hm iwonder why mine runs at least 3 times as fast as win [05:26] Perhaps my win has its survival insticts kicked in? ;) [05:27] userXubuntu, maybe id suggest a fresh install, its very odd that it runs slow [05:27] That would be my third install... =( [05:27] Basically it was like this before I did my second install, so you could say I tried a fresh install already... [05:29] damn im not sure then im sorry to say but id have to see the box myself to be sure [05:29] Do you now any conf I could check out? [05:29] if you lived close to me id be able to help you out more [05:29] =) Yes that would be convinient. [05:30] conveniant* not sure about the spelling [05:30] the only thing i can think of is that the `install of the graphics card may not be right [05:30] and it may be lagging [05:30] badly [05:31] Yes, I thaught so myself! (the video card that is) After my driver update in win2k it runs very fast at 1600x1200, in Xubuntu, it runs very sluggishly. [05:31] *thought [05:32] And the graphics lag when I move the windws, AND the CPU goes nuts? Maybe this is the problem? [05:34] it could be a bug with the video card the thing is is that most of todays cards are built for windoze and linux developer need to write different firmware and seftware for them and they are not always as good but i have seen many people with the same cards as yours who have flawless and very fast systems [05:34] maybe try a lower color bit rate like 16bit [05:34] Already there. [05:35] and maybe do around 1200x1050 or 1400x12?? [05:35] Oh, sorry, I was there on win2k, were do I change the depth in Xubuntu? [05:36] i really have no experience with advanced graphics cards but i know that on some systems its kinda a pain in the ass to configure to get it right [05:36] Oh... No graphic inteface then... [05:36] you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set to a lower resolution [05:37] about 1200 should be goo [05:37] d [05:37] I'll run that [05:37] be careful though and use most of the defaults [05:38] It saud something about auto-detect. Then I can only chose nv, I chose will chose that then... [05:41] damn i really need to build a badass system so i can deal with more complicated problems so i may be able to help more people [05:41] im really sorry i really am not sure what to do it that doesnt work [05:41] the people in #ubuntu might know better than i do [05:42] This is interesting: [05:42] "Configuring xserver-xorg [05:42] Typically, the amount of dedicated memory used by the video card is autodetected by the X server, but some integrated video chips (such as the Intel i810) have little or no video memory of their own, and instead borrow main system memory for their needs. [05:42] This parameter should usually be left blank and specified only if the video card lacks RAM, or if the X server has trouble autodetecting the RAM size." [05:42] Then it asks me: [05:42] "Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card:" [05:42] soldats, I appreciate you trying! [05:43] Should I =) [05:43] Do you thingk the X server has problem detecting the cards memory? [05:44] it could be [05:44] maybe the firmware for it doesnt say what it should be [05:45] How can I find ut? [05:46] im not sure, i wonder what it used as a default for video memory, it could have used all of it and it would lag the hell out of your system, maybe do about 100mb or 200 mb and see if its good, its a small amount but it may run faster [05:47] if you have 715 mb it should be fine [05:48] i just tried to install xubuntu-desktop with apt-get on kubuntu and now I get symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl [05:48] accourding to the package it states that it has 128 DD? SHould I write 128 000? (That's 128 MB in Kb, right= [05:48] when trying to run emerald or gedit or random programs.. [05:51] userXubuntu, id believe so should be kb x 10 = mb if its correct then make sure you dont use commas [05:52] So I'll write 128000 then... [05:52] PLEASE HELP! My WEP or WAP isn't working with my wireless adaptor (linksys WUSB300N) . I'm resitricting MAC address'es for the local network, and I'm routing most of my network apps through my friends SSH server using the socks 5 proxy option. ( ssh -d 8080 remote@network.com) . It's slow connecting through my friend though...is there anyway I could encrypt my data through a local area proxy, or open ssl or something like that? If I did it locally [05:52] I'm using xubuntu 7.10 [05:53] Or, would anyone know if wep or wap is possible with the WUSB300N wireless adaptor? [05:53] userXubuntu, id try it, if it doesnt work run the command again and set it to default (enter (leave blank)) [05:53] Soldat, roger :) [05:55] What abou this? [05:55] shinikaru, im not familiar wih just installing "xubuntu-desktop" but maybe installing xfce4 might help if you want better preformance and a smaller install. normally its best to backup needed files and do a fresh install of a real xubuntu install as it will install all necessary files. you might be missing some. [05:55] "Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware, the X server may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode switching, via the kernel's framebuffer driver. [05:55] In theory, either approach should work, but in practice, sometimes one does and the other does not. Enabling this option is the safe bet, but feel free to turn it off if it appears to cause problems. [05:55] Use kernel framebuffer device interface?" [05:57] NullName, encrypting it im pretty sure is possible a lot of people have dont it but im not exactly sure as how to do it. sorry but theres not a lot of people on here maybe if you try #ubuntu, as there is more people there and someone might know more about it, sorry if i cant help you, [05:57] (I choosed no) [05:58] thanks soldats, but nobody is helpig me in there..I'll try the forums [05:58] userXubuntu, well personally i would have gone with the "safe bet" option but if you chose no you might have to cinfigure it yourself [05:58] I already am encrytping [05:59] its just slow because I'm going through my friends ssh encrypted socks 5 server [05:59] NullName, sorry man ubuntu channel is always busy as hell [05:59] I want to know if I set one up locally if it will be secure [05:59] haha soldats, I know huh [05:59] not your fault.....the forum will work [05:59] cinifigure, is that the mouse and keyboard settings? [05:59] NullName, if you encrypt it it will be secure for sure [06:00] Cause that is what is bugging me abot now =) [06:00] userXubuntu, configure is for all the sttings [06:00] Oh... Shit. [06:00] Yeah, it started to ask me about RGB color and stff... [06:00] the are specific command for each as in mouse keyboard and monitor but i really cant remember what command is for each [06:00] *stuff [06:01] userXubuntu, use dafaults fo that [06:01] Well, I'll go through this, and report in when it is done... [06:01] ok i hope you figure it ou [06:01] thx [06:02] soldats: I would be encrypted only because I'm using a socks proxy through SSH. ssh uses RSA encryption [06:02] but I'm worried that If I set it up locally, someone could sniff out data BEFORE it goes to the server [06:02] or after [06:05] Well, the 16b or 24b (+8b) was the last step :). [06:05] if it does get encrypted, the person doing the sniffing would still have to decrypt it. if your doing it locally you ARE the server right? so it should be able to be sniffed before. if it gets sniffed after the the connection to the remote host it should still have to be decrypted [06:05] shouldnt** [06:06] oops [06:06] ... I take it that I should restart now. [06:06] userXubuntu, yes [06:06] or restart X [06:06] ctrl alt backspace [06:07] :) rethorical question :) [06:07] (I avoid that because it casues problems with my session, btw, they work now after my second install, however not all programs (like firefox and thuderbird) do not autmatically launch after start, but when you start them they will load in the last used workspace) [06:18] yea i hear that happens i dont know why tough [07:04] how much of a bad idea is it to install the 64bit edition? [07:07] its not really bad but all i hear is that a lot of people have compatability issues with it. plus a lot of apps dont even use 64 bit so youd probly be better off with the basic 32 bit install [07:08] then again a lot of people have nice installs as well [07:26] Soldats are you still there? [07:27] yes sir [07:28] but not for long i gtta sleep soon its 12:30 here [07:28] My first attempt went well, 128000 and 16b, and the computer had a beter performance, then I tried just changing to 16b, and it still went as good, so the problem was probably there. [07:28] good good [07:28] But I have two problems left. [07:28] ok [07:29] One, the keyboard is F**ked up. It doesn't recognize the win special keys. [07:29] hahaha [07:29] Do you know how to fix that? [07:29] yes [07:29] Laugh you, laugh! [07:29] But every time I tried to spell something all my shortcuts were activated! [07:29] next question forst though [07:29] =) [07:30] what do youmean shortcuts were activated [07:31] I have mapped a lot of shortcuts, combined with the win key, so win+e = file manage, win+n = mousepad, etc. [07:31] So you could imagine what happened when I wanted to type in something simple as my password... [07:31] The second problem: the screen doesn't look like it's 1600x1200, everything is big, like it was set on 1024x768, but accourding to my graphic settings the screen is set to 1600... [07:33] even if you had keys mapped with the win key i wonder how it screws with your passwords?? dou need to press alternate keys or somting [07:35] E.g. when I tried to press n, mousepad opened (the reason is because there is no win key, the shortcuts are mapped to the letters, so it would be 0+n=n. I have currently set keyboeard shrtcuts to default so I can typa as normal). [07:36] also when you set resolutins sometimes the config for the top and bottom menus isnt set so if you right click them and choose properties can you choose a smaller value for them or maybe a smaller icon value for then thus making the task bar smaller [07:37] ok well i will try to explain the win key as much as possible [07:37] here goes [07:39] regarding the res: how do I change so that the program windows and fonts will be smaller? Because the windows and font are big (like they are in 1024x768). [07:41] <_slvmch3> win key is kind of annoying, i prefer the 'menu' key, i couldn't get the windows key to respond when i assigned to to a command (it said instead of one button it was a combination of two buttons, and wouldn't respond) [07:42] <_slvmch3> soldats: cool, i'm not huge into punk but i appreciate it and love punk shows [07:42] ok well i will try to explain the win key as much as possible [07:42] <_slvmch3> but i never got into eitehr the newschool or oldschool, be it the whole fat wreck chords punk (bad religion, NOFX, etc.) or the oldschool (misfits, black flag, etc.) [07:43] <_slvmch3> you'll have to link me to mp3s sometime though [07:43] <_slvmch3> i want to start a punk band so i can get my drum chops faster [07:43] _slvmch3, yea we love a lot of those bands [07:43] rad ill do that sometime [07:45] userXubuntu, edit the ~/.HOME/.config/xfce4/shortcuts/xfce-popup-menu.xml and for each command change the "Super+SuperL" to just "SuperL". and you have to also change your default keyboard to emacs instead of default [07:47] userXubuntu, in the apps > settings > keyboard make the default emacs and with the suggstions i showed you it should work [07:47] Wll, currently I can't do anything because thunar is going ape-shit on me... [07:47] oh damn what is up [07:48] Like I have been trying to say for the past days: thunar causes serious problems for moi. [07:49] OK, I'll try the keyboard thing now... [07:50] ... Apparently not... Thuner is really starting to get on my nerves... [07:51] _slvmch3, coll man well the stuff we have recorded was done while being pretty drunk. so when we got new stuff recorded (very soon) ill let you know. i love music so if you end up doing a band i love to hear it. but ill let you know whe we get some stuff out. [07:51] userXubuntu, whats it doing [07:52] it freees up. [07:52] *freezes [07:53] after you ran the reconfig settings it stil did it?? [07:53] Yeah... [07:53] shit man i really wish i could look at it id know a lot better [07:53] SO the problem isn't related to the that. That will only leave ntsf as the culprit... [07:54] yea that may be sometimes linux has a problem constalntly reading ntfs [07:54] But Thunar has freezed up when I only move in the file system dir also... [07:54] And for example, I started a new instance of thunar through the temrinal, and it works... [07:55] I can create folders in ntfs and do whatever I want... [07:55] ... But the first instanves remain frozen... [07:55] i need some help with my desktop if anyones free for some advice? [07:55] have you tried the basic "ubuntu" install rather than the xubuntu install [07:56] chris__, jusk ask a question someone will answer but this channel is really slow maybe i can help you [07:56] ok i install compiz fusion but found it to difficult to configure cos im a noob [07:56] so i uninstalled it via synaptic [07:57] No. The only reason I wanted to swicth to linux was because I wanted an vent fatser and cleaer OS, Ubuntu is perhaps good, but I only want a minimal install of programs... [07:58] and now i cant use my widow manager as it brings up a grey box with "these settings will not work with your current window manger (unknown)? [07:58] userXubuntu, yea mee too, it works very well for me. but im very sorry im having a tugh time trying to figure out whats wrong [07:59] chris__, what are you logging into on boot. [07:59] Xubuntu [07:59] I did th--God what have I done--short story: the keyboard tip didn't work. [07:59] 7.10 gutsy [08:01] userXubuntu, hmm they way i figured out the keyboard stuff is that it needs to be an emacs setting and you need to edit the .xml file. but i havent the slightest cluse as to it bogging down anf thunar not working [08:01] userXubuntu, ill have to look into it more deeply and try to figure out whats going on [08:02] chris__, i meant what window manager as in xfce or something else [08:02] Xfce4 [08:02] ahh could it be chanbged from the session thing on the login screen ? [08:03] chris__, well compiz pretty much runs on xfce4 in xubuntu so may try "sudo apt-get remove compiz" in a terminal [08:03] or instead of compiz try ccsm [08:04] removed copmpiz and all the files associated with it and removed ccsm compiz config aswell [08:04] also if you had the avant manager instaled i believe you need to uninstall that as well [08:04] soldats, regarding the keyboard, thunar or both? [08:04] the keyboard shouldnt have anything to do with thunar [08:05] Yes, I know, but I was windering what you wanted to look deeper in. [08:05] oh oh the thunar problem [08:05] the border from my windows have gone to so i have to go file --> close every time [08:06] I have created a thread on the Ubuntu forums, if you want I could give you the uri so that you could just follow up there, I'll keep info regarding the problem updated there, [08:07] chris__, the border problem isnt necessarily something to do with a mess up in compiz as i had the same problem and i dont use compiz and never have. i created a new user account and moved the config files for my apps to the new user to fix the border issue. can you still login at all? [08:08] userXubuntu, yea that would be awesome if i could have the url [08:08] ill try to figure it out [08:08] yeah everything is as normal except my window borders and the fact that i cant accesss my window manger [08:09] userXubuntu, just make sure on the forums that you be explicitly clear on every detail [08:09] ithis is my first time using a linux based OS aswell so I'm pretty much a noob at everything [08:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637412 [08:09] You be the judge if I'm being clear enough ;) [08:10] userXubuntu, ok yea you were very clear on it [08:10] very nicely done [08:11] and all my windows now open in the top left of the desktop [08:13] chris__: open a terminal and tpye 'xfwm4' [08:13] type [08:14] i would but i cant see the accessories button [08:14] is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal ? [08:15] chris__: it won't work without the window manager running [08:15] chris__: keyboard shortcuts, I mean [08:15] chris__: you can switch to text console with alt+ctrl+f1 and switch back with alt+ctrl+f7 [08:16] chris__: in the text console,log in and try this: "export DISPLAY=:0.0; xfwm4" [08:16] ok i'll try that now [08:18] reboot [08:18] userXubuntu, after reading the thread i realize how this is such an very odd problem. i know youve been through multiple installs and the only thing i can think of is that maybe something in the w2k partition is conflicting with the linux partition. im not sure though so dont quote me on that. but if you maybe try looking at linux.org it has a dual boot section in it. [08:26] chris__: now we have to do something for it to stay [08:26] chris__: I guess that just saving your session when you log out should be enough [08:26] ok [08:28] i can acces my window manger now and everthing is ok thanks TheSheep [08:41] <_slvmch3> his last post on that forum thread looks like one of the problems, he should turn off thumbnails [09:33] in windows you can type a symbol by holding alt and presing any number like ali + 5589 and then release it. after releasing the alt button. a sign/symbol appears. i can not do this in linux. any way to do it? [09:39] ? [09:48] just "reboot"... Famous last words... [10:00] PeterPan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key [10:02] Soldats still there? [10:10] If there is anyone out there: I need to find the Xubuntu start up logs, does anybody now where I can find them (I'm currently looking in /var/log, but I do not know what file I'm looking for...) [10:28] TheSheep: thx [10:30] I need to make the "wave" character, but it is not working (I'll take it that you do it the same way as you do in windows? alt+ctrl+) [10:30] Could someone type it so I can cop and paste it. [11:23] wave character? [11:24] ~? [11:24] Yeah, thanks. [11:24] But I found it in the character program. [11:25] How do you make it isn't it ctrl+alt+wave? [11:25] you dont have that button? [11:25] its right beside my 1 key [11:25] I do have the button, but it doesn't respond. [11:25] shift ` doesnt work? [11:25] weird [11:25] I usually used ctrl+alt+wave [11:25] oh weird. well shift is the usual way to get the upper thing on a key :P [11:25] its called tilde btw [11:26] (on windoes, I can't recall doing it on Xubuntu) but it is the same right? [11:26] thaks I keep forgetting -- tilde. [11:26] ive never used ctrl alt to get it on either os [11:26] yeah its a weird name [11:26] How do you get it? [11:26] I press shift, and the key left of the 1 key [11:26] on US keyboard [11:27] Doesn't seem to do anything in a european keyboard. [11:28] oh I see its not there in eu keyboards. heh. dunno man. I dont know anythin gabout internationalization [11:28] we dont even have alt gr keys here :) [11:28] I recenty had some keyboard setting problems, so I figure it is related to that, but the wierd part is that all my other keys work.. So.. [11:28] =) [11:30] correction: all keys that do not need alt gr works... [11:30] could someone tell me how i can disable alt-space hotkey which opens the window manager menu.. on xfce [11:30] application>settings>keyboard manager [11:30] *keyboard settings [11:30] seems to be window manager keyb.. didnt see it [11:41] hi [11:41] hi [11:41] livecd didnt work properlly on my laptop [11:41] how ? [11:41] X [11:41] other parts were ok [11:42] i could see the xubuntu logo and etc (framebuffer?) [11:42] but X didnt work [11:42] ctrl+alt+f1 worked [11:42] any thoughts? [11:42] so X didnt start? [11:43] did it tell u a reason [11:45] its like a grafic support problem [11:45] i see a black screen [11:45] i didnt 'shutdown', so the black screen stay there [11:46] no text on the console? [11:46] console works fine [11:47] can u see the xorg.logs? [11:47] in /var/logs ? [11:47] problably [11:47] what can i do to fix the problem? [11:47] just find out what the problem is [11:47]