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nealmcbmpt: I should clarify I'm looking for bzr support, translations, etc - a project to make it part of, otherwise I guess we should just make a new one, but this seems like it should be part of something bigger00:24
nealmcbso we could document it at help.launchpad.net, but I'm looking to develop it more first :-)00:25
ubotuNew bug: #175758 in launchpad "add not-null constraint to Person.visibility" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17575800:35
Laneywindow level all01:17
Laneyoops :(01:17
nealmcbhmm - another interesting launchpad-scraping tool - https://edge.launchpad.net/python-launchpad-code/01:34
Hobbseeyeesh.  damn peopl.e.01:40
Hobbseesabdfl != launchpad-beta-testers, so why subscribe both?01:42
jelmerah, that explains why I get the occassional email about lp bugreports I'm not subscribed to...01:45
Hobbseei think so01:45
Hobbseethey've got a tendancy to to do to ubuntu-core-dev, too01:46
Hobbseethe people are only starting with launchpad now, it appears.01:46
Hobbseei'm not sure that people don't get why people who want to be subscribed stuff are already subscribed.01:46
Hobbseeand that adding random teams, etc, is just spam.01:47
jelmerThey probably hope that more people knowing about the bug means a better chance of having it fixed quicker01:48
Hobbseeprobably01:48
Hobbseewhat they don't know is that some people may well ignore bugs like that, just to piss them off in return.01:48
jelmerHaving an option in launchpad to forbid others to subscribe you (or your team) would be useful.01:53
Hobbseewell, i don't mind for users01:53
jelmerAlthough restrictions that are too strict can hinder as well01:53
Hobbseebut subscribing any team over 5 (or 10) members probably warrants an "are you sure?  no really, are you really sure?  often the required people are already subscribed, so don't subscribe big teams"01:54
jelmerYeah, indeed - I would hate not being able to subscribe another developer to a bug if I think they may be interested in a bug.01:54
Hobbseedialog01:54
Hobbseethere are cases where you subscribe teams to bugs.01:54
jelmerYeah, just requiring extra confirmation may be a good compromise01:56
Hobbseenot for everything though01:56
Hobbseethey pushed that out to edge recently, and that was bloody ridiculous.01:56
jelmerwhere?01:57
Hobbseethe testing server01:57
Hobbsee(edge.launchpad.net)01:57
Hobbseeyou probably get redirected there already, being in -beta-testers01:57
* jelmer hasn't noticed anything :-)01:57
jelmerthen again, my use of launchpad is mainly limited to malone and the bazaar integration01:58
_polto_what does replace mozilla-config now pls ?02:21
ubotuNew bug: #175780 in launchpad "Validitiy problems in announcements Atom feed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17578003:31
Hobbseeedge is down.03:41
Hobbseewait, no03:43
ubotuNew bug: #175792 in launchpad "Announcements feed contains duplicate entry IDs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17579205:56
* Hobbsee grumbles at cprov-away and infinity06:53
HobbseeMOTU really doesn't want mail due to random PPA packages.  thanks.06:53
FujitsuYou refer to the existance of pkgbinarymangler in the PPA chroots?06:54
Hobbseeyes06:54
Hobbseeand the bug that has sat there for months, assigned to infinity, where he's done *nothing* about it.06:54
FujitsuI'm surprised there's more to it than just apt-get removing it, but I guess there's some black magic behind it.06:55
jameshor changing its configuration ...07:15
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mrevellhowdy09:25
FujitsuHi mrevell.09:25
zerokmorning :) just a question: what gpg key length is currently recommended? i guess with my 1024bit key i'm a little bit behind the time :P09:40
jameshzerok: it is up to you09:42
zerokok :)09:42
jamesha lot of people still have 1024 bit DSA keys though, so it isn't necessarily a problem09:42
zerok*shrugs* i guess a new key won't hurt :)09:46
jameshif people have signed your old key, then it is probably worth keeping it09:47
zeroknot to my knowledge :) and i won't revoke the old key for now anyway :)09:48
jameshzerok: you can register multiple keys with your account, so there is no harm in adding both09:55
zeroksweet. thanks :)09:55
zerokROFL i'm retarded. the original key had 4096bits for the private key anyway ^_^10:01
Kmosmorning!11:54
kikomorning11:56
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Kmoskiko :)12:05
ubotuNew bug: #175860 in malone "/+text bug page subscribers don't include bug contacts (also notified)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17586012:25
kikoof course not. it only includes direct subscribers12:31
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mrevellHey Hobbsee14:19
* Hobbsee waves to mrevell14:19
Hobbseehow goes it?14:20
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mrevellWell, thanks. You?14:21
Hobbseemrevell: do you want the real answer to that? :)14:21
mrevellHobbsee: Of course. If you're having a bad day, there's no shame in that.14:22
* Hobbsee is throwing a guy off the network repeatedly, and is frustrated at various launchpad bugs.14:22
mrevellWhat bugs in particular are frustrating you?14:23
Hobbseemrevell: 2 soyuz ones.  the one that sends all binaries to main, and the one that makes all ppa bugs get mangled as ubuntu packages do.14:23
* Hobbsee can look up numbers, if required.14:24
mrevellYeah, numbers would be cool, if you have them to hand.14:24
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/bugs/12005214:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120052 in soyuz "Component mapping for new source packages" [Medium,Confirmed] 14:24
Hobbseeand https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/13639914:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 136399 in soyuz "PPA builders performing normal Ubuntu binary mangling" [High,Confirmed]  - Assigned to Adam Conrad (adconrad)14:25
Hobbseemrevell: and general frustration about getting constant mailouts about packages / bugs that i do not care for.14:25
Hobbseewhich i think is because someone is assigning bugs to big teams, or people in the team have uploaded something, etc.14:25
* mrevell looks at the bug pages14:27
mrevellSorry Hobbsee, just a sec, I'm in about three conversations atm :)14:31
Hobbseemrevell: no problem.  just be sure to perfect the art of cloning yourself in the next 12 hours.14:33
mrevellHobbsee: haha :)14:33
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statikreviewer meeting starting now in #launchpad-meeting14:59
statikkiko: reviewers meeting in #launchpad-meeting if you are interested15:01
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Ubuletteis it just me or the amd64 ppa builder(s) is/are broken ?15:37
Ubulettehttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/10862144/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.firefox-3.0_3.0%7Eb2%7Erc1%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1%7Efta1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:37
Hobbseelooks strange.15:41
Hobbseedoes  libgnomeui-0 actually install on a hardy chroot?15:41
Hobbseelibgnomeui 2.20.1.1-1 produces uninstallable binaries:15:41
Hobbsee    * libgnomeui-0 (amd64)15:41
Hobbsee    * libgnomeui-0-dbg (amd64)15:41
Hobbsee    * libgnomeui-dev (amd64) 15:41
Hobbseeno15:41
Hobbseefrom http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/hardy_probs.html15:41
HobbseeTotals by arch:15:42
Hobbsee    * sparc:2015:42
Hobbsee    * i386:1815:42
Hobbsee    * amd64:688 15:42
Hobbseewhee!  that's an impressive figure15:42
HobbseeUbulette: that woudl be broken hardy, rather than broken ppa builds.15:43
Ubulettei386 and lpia are fine15:44
Hobbseeobviously.  they don't show up on that list15:44
Ubuletteand the xulrunner missing is in my own ppa15:44
* Hobbsee would expect that also depends on some of the core gnome stuff, as the version in the ubuntu archives also fails to install, as shown on that list.15:45
Hobbseetherefore, will not install.15:45
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UbuletteHobbsee, the link above shows mostly amd64 issues16:14
* Hobbsee wondesr what to say to that, and decides to say nothing at all.16:20
Ubulette:)16:20
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ubotuNew bug: #175908 in launchpad "Permalinks for individual announcements" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17590816:51
ubotuNew bug: #175936 in launchpad "Announcements action (edit, publish & delete) links too close" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17593618:40
mtayloranybody around an admin or can doing anything about ppa builders? 18:55
mtaylorI had "mono-gmcs mono-devel"18:55
mtaylorin my build-deps18:55
mtaylorand I got:18:56
mtaylor  mono-devel: Depends: mono-mcs but it is not going to be installed18:56
mtaylor  mono-gmcs: Depends: mono-runtime (>= 1.1.8.1) but it is not going to be installed18:56
mtaylor             Depends: libmono-microsoft-build2.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed18:56
mtaylor             Depends: libmono2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4) but it is not going to be installed18:56
mtaylorbut that's not an error I get on my gutsy install18:56
mtaylorso I'm not sure what's wrong18:56
kikomtaylor, are all those package versions available in your PPA or in Ubuntu?18:57
mtaylorkiko: mono-devel and mono-gmcs are avail in ubuntu18:57
kikowhat about libmono-microsoft-build2.0-cil mono-runtime libmono2.0-cil18:58
mtaylorkiko: they seem to be in ubuntu... let me get rid of backports real quick to be sure18:59
mtaylorkiko: yeah - with only gutsy sources in my sources.list, apt-get install mono-gmcs mono-devel works fine19:01
mtaylorkiko: but I will say this... 19:01
mtaylormy machine shows mono-gmcs depending on mono (= 1.2.4-6ubuntu6)19:01
mtaylorand mono-runtime is not in the list19:02
mtaylorso I'm not sure why I show 1.2.4 and ppa shows 1.1.819:03
kikodid you apt-get update after cleaning up your sources.list, mtaylor?19:04
mtaylorkiko: yup19:04
mtaylorkiko: and I already de-installed all mono-related packages19:04
kikoweird.19:05
kikomtaylor, well, I can tell you this much:19:05
mtayloryeah19:05
kikoa PPA can depend on two things19:05
kiko- itself19:05
kiko- ubuntu gutsy19:05
kikothat's it.19:05
mtayloryup. that's all I'm depending on... how _weird_19:05
kikowell, ubuntu X, where X is what distro series you uploaded your package for19:06
mtaylormaybe I'll debootstrap a gutsy and try in there... 19:06
mtaylorbtw, what's lpia? 19:08
kikoyeah, if I had a gutsy I could help you, but here in london I don't19:08
mtaylorI consider that london's fault19:08
mtaylor:)19:08
kikoI think it stands for low-power intel architecture. it's a mobile chip.19:08
mtayloroh. how interesting19:08
kikothere are many things to blame london for19:08
kikoyeah, it's super-new; I'm not sure there are even released products on it19:08
kikoah, it's not even out yet, so there you go.19:09
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kergothanyone know how to disable parts of launchpad for a project, like if i don't want to make use of, the answers section, or the code repo?19:28
pochukergoth: Change details, on the top left corner of the project's main page19:30
mtaylorkiko: aha... the mono errors are only on lpia19:30
kergoth" People can ask questions in Launchpad Answers" is unchecked, yet i can click on the answers tab and ask a question19:30
mtaylorkiko: I have _different_ weird errors on amd6419:31
kergothbugs are set to 'somewhere else', but the tab seems functional there too19:31
* kergoth scratches head19:31
ddaafor code, you cannot forbid other from attaching branches to your project19:31
ddaakergoth: what is the name of your project?19:32
ddaaI mean, it's launchpad id?19:32
pochukergoth: the tab is there, and you can click it. Yet I don't think it will allow you to report a bug. Have you tried it?20:26
pochukergoth: there's a bug about it not been clear that the project doesn't use bugs. the bugs page will display it too soon I think.20:26
pochukergoth: for the answers it could be the same, although I don't use them so I'm not sure...20:27
pochuI mean, maybe it let's you click the tab and go to the page, but not report them20:27
pochuIf so, it should be clearer too...20:27
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ubotuNew bug: #175978 in launchpad "HWDB: Define a list of allowed units for the <answer> tag in submissionn data" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17597821:26

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