[00:01] <jjmiv> what's alpha one?
[00:01] <jjmiv> oh, for teh next ubuntu version
[00:01] <evil_tech> ?
[00:01] <jjmiv> evil_tech: see topic
[00:01] <evil_tech> i should have known that
[00:02] <evil_tech> im helping test it
[00:02] <evil_tech> bdur
[00:02] <evil_tech> its been one of them days
[00:04] <jjmiv> where do you get teh test images?
[00:04] <evil_tech> the link in the MOTD
[00:05] <evil_tech> https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/
[00:05] <jjmiv> what's the PASTES for?
[00:06] <jjmiv> found the ISOs
[00:08] <Pumpernickel> The pastebin provides a way to share large error logs without flooding the channel.
[00:09] <jjmiv> cool coo
[00:10] <jjmiv> that is a smart idea
[00:11] <simtower> uh
[00:11] <jjmiv> is there a test ubuntu-server iso?
[00:11] <evil_tech> should
[00:12] <jjmiv> can't find it
[00:14] <evil_tech> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-1/
[00:23] <jjmiv> THANKs EVIL TECH!
[00:23] <evil_tech> np
[00:27] <jjmiv> how long have you used xubuntu?
[00:28] <evil_tech> since warty
[00:28] <evil_tech> 5.04 i think
[00:29] <evil_tech> 4.10
[00:29] <evil_tech> wow
[00:29] <evil_tech> thats a long time
[00:30] <jjmiv> yeah, wow
[00:30] <jjmiv> warty was 4.109
[00:30] <jjmiv> 4.19*
[00:31] <jjmiv> 4.10*
[00:31] <jjmiv> arg..stupid pinky finger
[00:31] <evil_tech> lol
[00:36] <evil_tech> 3 years
[00:36] <evil_tech> almost 4
[00:36] <evil_tech> and i'm still der uber-n00b
[00:36] <jjmiv> crazy
[00:36] <jjmiv> heh
[00:37] <jjmiv> ha, you can install Ubuntu on the PS3.....nerd
[00:54] <evil_tech> hmm Brasero keeps accessing drives when you tell it to close after successful burn
[01:06] <jjmiv> brasero is...?
[01:09] <soldats> cd burning application
[01:12] <jjmiv> that's what i figured
[01:15] <march> n8
[01:15] <soldats> ?
[01:16] <march> Good night ;)
[01:16] <march> It's 2:16 A.M. where I live :) CU
[01:17] <Rafabe> hi
[01:18] <Rafabe> is there anyone here who is very knowledgeable in linux troubleshooting, particularly issues with X and drivers?
[01:18] <soldats> hello
[01:18] <soldats> ha i saw your post on ubuntu and i was trying to think of how to solve it
[01:18] <soldats> im not so sure though
[01:19] <Rafabe> i think i'm going to have to format and reinstall. is there a "system restore" feature I could use in the future?
[01:20] <soldats> i dont think so
[01:20] <soldats> thats more of a windoze thing
[01:20] <soldats> a reinstall should take bout 30 minutes
[01:21] <seisen> what kind of problem is it?
[01:21] <Rafabe> seisen: (pasted)  X will no longer boot after I changed drivers from the proprietary ATI to the open one. Reconfiguring xorg.conf (either directly or by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) did not work
[01:22] <seisen> that is weird
[01:23] <seisen> do you have a backup xorg.conf file
[01:23] <Rafabe> I had a low resolution, so I enabled the restricted ATI driver. It allowed me to use high resolutions. Then due to a bug in KDE and the proprietary driver (basically, the whole OS crashes if I try to switch users/start new X session), I switched back to Open driver...and X won't boot
[01:23] <seisen> i see
[01:23] <Rafabe> I did, and I tried replacing it with one from 2 days ago...no luck
[01:23] <evil_tech> KDE?
[01:23] <Rafabe> is the setting for which driver to use reall in xorg.conf?
[01:24] <Rafabe> evil: I installed Xubuntu, then downloaded the KDE Desktop package yesterday
[01:24] <evil_tech> ah
[01:25] <Rafabe> what would happen if I reinstalled over this, without formatting?
[01:26] <Rafabe> would I keep all my personal files/downloaded packages?
[01:26] <Catoptromancy> depends
[01:27] <Catoptromancy> I would make backups on unreplaceable stuff
[01:27] <evil_tech> and use a different login name
[01:27] <Catoptromancy> but if you dont format. it will probably save them
[01:27] <Catoptromancy> resintalling OS just installs stuff to root
[01:27] <Catoptromancy> so your /home should be untouched
[01:28] <Catoptromancy> backups are a good idea anyway
[01:29] <seisen> when you reinstall create a seperate /home partition
[01:30] <Rafabe> thanks for the help
[01:40] <evil_tech> wish you could put /home on a seperate drive
[01:41] <Rafabe> it's OK, I'll use a different username
[01:42] <Rafabe> i have one last idea...how can I install fglrx from the console? What apt command do I need to send?
[01:42] <Rafabe> maybe by installing it, it'll implement its own settings
[01:43] <seisen> do you mean downloading with apt-get
[01:44] <Rafabe> yes
[01:44] <evil_tech> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-fglrx?
[01:44] <Rafabe> thank you
[01:44] <evil_tech> i dont know if that is right
[01:45] <evil_tech> just a best gues
[01:45] <seisen> that is correct evil_tech
[01:45] <evil_tech> it works
[01:46] <Rafabe> says "couldn't find package xserver-xorg-fglrx"
[01:47] <seisen> you need to enable the restricted repositories
[01:47] <seisen> then it it will work
[01:48] <Rafabe> how can I do this from the console? I already had that checked in the Ubuntu control panel, when I still had X.
[01:50] <seisen> duh I see what is wrong the correct name is xorg-driver-fglrx sorry for that mistake I'm tired
[01:50] <Rafabe> thanks, works now
[01:50] <Rafabe> i thought it was weird that I couldn't google  "couldn't find package xserver-xorg-fglrx"
[01:51] <seisen> np
[01:53] <Rafabe> didn't work. Oh well, time to format. Thanks for taking the time to help me, guys. Have a good evening.
[01:53] <Rafabe> err, not format, I meant reinstall over the current install :P
[01:54] <evil_tech> why not just restore the backup xorg.conf
[01:54] <evil_tech> ?
[01:58] <evil_tech> oh he left
[01:58] <evil_tech> need my eyes checked
[03:06] <jjmiv> EW, cpu too old for this kernel
[03:11] <jjmiv> can you install a different kernel with the alternate install CD?
[03:11] <somerville32> Why is your cpu too old for the kernel?
[03:11] <somerville32> And are you running Xubuntu right now?
[03:12] <somerville32> You can install another kernel while running and then reboot into it
[03:13] <jjmiv> i installed ubuntu-server Handy 8.04
[03:14] <somerville32> You might try #ubuntu-server for support than?
[03:14] <somerville32> And Hardy is unsupported as it is unreleased
[03:14] <somerville32> see #ubuntu+1
[03:15] <jjmiv> my plan was to do some testing, install xorg after i finished install..then install xfce
[03:17] <jjmiv> well...i'll check it out then...
[03:18] <neur1> if I have a dual boot, and I reformat the partitions to add xubuntu will it find the other os's?
[03:19] <somerville32> neur1, depends on how you do it
[03:20] <neur1> example . . .
[03:20] <somerville32> neur1, I'm afraid I need you to explain exactly what you're doing for me to answer.
[03:20] <neur1> k
[03:20] <somerville32> Reformatting a partition doesn't do anything but reformat a partition. I assume you're going to do something after that
[03:20] <somerville32> What you do after that might auto-configure grub
[03:21] <neur1> I have a dual boot intact but need to have a partition (new) for xubuntu
[03:21] <jjmiv> that makes no sense...sine i have a p4 3.2
[03:22] <somerville32> neur1, Well, when you install Xubuntu, you'll want to repartition. The install should auto-detect the other OSes
[03:22] <somerville32> jjmiv, hmm?
[03:23] <neur1> o.k.it will see the others and grub will do the work?
[03:23] <somerville32> neur1, it should, yes
[03:23] <somerville32> !grub | neur1
[03:23] <ubotu> neur1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:24] <jjmiv> somerville32: not sure why it said "cpu too old for this kernel" when i have a P4 3.2
[03:24] <jjmiv> eh...wait a sec
[03:26] <neur1> thanks is this process succesful most of the time lol . . . or should I just keep two os's at a time
[03:27] <somerville32> neur1, why would it not work? Just another item on the grub boot menu :)
[03:27] <neur1> cool
[03:28] <neur1> and I can add a home partition too
[03:28] <jjmiv> gg, later guys
[03:32] <neur1> is there a opacity setting for the top and bottom panels?
[03:32] <neur1> opps never mind sorry
[03:49] <neur1> thanks guys see you later
[05:40] <mynyml> i'm trying to burn an iso image with xfburn and as soon as i click burn it gives me a 100% complete result window..
[05:41] <mynyml> anyone's got any idea of why it thinks the job is done?
[05:44] <mynyml> so apperantly xfburn doesnt do ISO.... o.0 ...
[06:09] <neur1> is there an xubuntu forum?
[06:12] <soldats> no
[06:13] <soldats> dont believe so usually everything in the ubuntu forum should work fine
[06:14] <neur1> o.k.
[06:47] <gerro> hello everyone
[06:49] <somerville32> hiya
[08:17] <RobinReborn> does anybody know why ubuntu 7.10 gives me a unix prompt and says "no resume image" when I update?
[09:16] <Catoptromancy> !ntfs
[09:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[09:17] <Catoptromancy> !ntfs-3g
[09:17] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:18] <whyking> hi
[10:18] <whyking> I want to install eclipse 3.3, but in the repos is only eclipse 3.2, whats the best way to handle that? use debian packages?
[11:19] <benpicco> Hi, how to add aplications to the menu bar?
[11:20] <TheSheep> benpicco: right-click and select 'add new item'
[11:21] <benpicco> nothing happens if i do this in the Applications menue
[11:21] <TheSheep> benpicco: ah, settings->menu editor
[11:21] <TheSheep> benpicco: that's not a bar
[11:21] <TheSheep> :)
[11:22] <benpicco> well, i'd like to add something to e.g. education or Games - i can't find something like this in the menu editor
[11:24] <TheSheep> benpicco: just create such a submenu, they will be "merged" then
[11:24] <benpicco> ok, thx
[11:24] <TheSheep> benpicco: make sure you add the submenu above the include
[11:26] <bart1105> good evening, i just installed xubuntu gutsy on my laptop and now my boot up time is much slower
[11:28] <TheSheep> benpicco: do you have printer?
[11:29] <benpicco> TheSheep, erm not here but at home
[11:29] <TheSheep> benpicco: sorry
[11:29] <TheSheep> benpicco: wrong nick :)
[11:29] <TheSheep> bart1105: fo you have printer? if not, you can disable cups, it will make it a little faster
[11:30] <TheSheep> bart1105: in system->services
[11:33] <bart1105> thesheep: thanx
[11:35] <bart1105> thesheep: how long does it take for your login screen to be available? it takes around 3 to 4 mins for me
[11:35] <TheSheep> bart1105: that's *much* too long!
[11:35] <TheSheep> bart1105: is it eveyry time?
[11:35] <TheSheep> bart1105: because it will check the disks once in a while, and then it can take long
[11:37] <bart1105> thesheep: yes... i used the xubuntu desktop disc, i'm updating it now... hopefully it will be resolved
[11:37] <TheSheep> bart1105: livecd is much slower too
[11:38] <bart1105> thesheep: but i installed it on my system already? should i download the alternate and install again?\
[11:39] <TheSheep> bart1105: no
[11:39] <TheSheep> bart1105: they install exactly the same thing
[11:42] <bart1105> thesheep: is there a way i can get the boot up to become verbose so i can see what's slowing it down?
[11:45] <Norgur> hi
[11:46] <TheSheep> bart1105: yes, edit as root the file /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options from your menu entry
[11:47] <bart1105> thesheep: how do i edit as root??
[11:48] <TheSheep> bart1105: open terminal and type 'sudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[11:49] <bart1105> thesheep: ok, thanx
[12:12] <bart1105> thesheep: to install openoffice i just type 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org' ?
[12:15] <TheSheep> bart1105: better just use synaptic
[12:15] <bart1105> thesheep: ok\
[13:39] <student002> hello, I really need help getting the correct drivers..how can I test if it's working fine or not?
[13:39] <student002> like how can I check if I have the right ones
[13:42] <TheSheep> student002: if it works, they are right
[13:42] <student002> TheSheep, what about 3d accelleration
[13:42] <student002> see I'm having this problem with wine and no one in #winehq knows
[13:43] <Norgur> knows what?
[13:43] <student002> No one there knows how to solve the problem..they're only suggestion is that my 3d accel isn't working
 hello, whenever I try to run wine..it creates a .wine folder in my home folder named something like .winZ82YIU
 or something
 and jams up my computer
[13:43] <student002> that's my problem with wine
[13:45] <student002> brb
[13:50] <Proteus> hey, does anyone else have really weird problems with abiword? Like words randomly being deleted, disappeared, or changed as you type?
[13:50] <Proteus> I'm trying to type a term paper and then wtf.
[13:51] <Proteus> I've tried reinstalling and all that with no luck.
[13:52] <bart1105> TheSheep: thank you.. it boots up fine now. should i install the restricted drivers?
[13:54] <TheSheep> bart1105: depends whether you want to use them
[13:54] <TheSheep> bart1105: what graphics card do you have?
[13:55] <nopcode> Proteus: use latex
[13:56] <TheSheep> nopcode: that's not really helpful
[13:56] <jusama14> TheSheep, I'm back
[13:56] <jusama14> I'm the guy with the wine problem
[13:56] <nopcode> TheSheep: neither is WYSIWYG ;P
[13:57] <Proteus> ok, seriously
[13:57] <Proteus> I'm not using a rock and chisel
[13:57] <Proteus> I need grammar correction and pretty buttons
[13:57] <nopcode> i bet emacs does that
[13:57] <nopcode> somehow
[13:57] <Proteus> yeah, it probably does
[13:57] <Proteus> BUT I'M NOT DOING THAT
[13:57] <TheSheep> nopcode: that's irrelevant, abiword should work
[13:58] <jusama14> how can I check if my 3d accel is working?
[13:58] <nopcode> but tex is the right way to do it
[13:58] <TheSheep> Proteus: maybe you could look if the bug has been reported and if not, report it?
[13:58] <TheSheep> jusama14: try running glgears
[13:58] <jusama14> glxgears right?
[13:58] <TheSheep> nopcode: I know that, you know that, so what
[13:59] <Proteus> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575393
[13:59] <nopcode> TheSheep: so well, abiword is irrelevant
[13:59] <Proteus> I guess I'm not the only one with the problem
[13:59] <TheSheep> nopcode: it's included in xubuntu, so it's supported, if you can't help, don't troll
[14:00] <bart1105> TheSheep: it's an Ati 200m chipset
[14:01] <jusama14> back..my computer jammed when I typed in glxgears
[14:01] <jusama14> I had to force restart
[14:01] <TheSheep> jusama14: what graphics card do you have?
[14:01] <jusama14> some onboard via
[14:01] <TheSheep> bart1105: if you plan on using 3d acceleration, restricted drivers might be helpful
[14:01] <jusama14> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[14:02] <bart1105> ok.. thanx
[14:02] <TheSheep> jusama14: S3
[14:02] <jusama14> s3? yeah what does that mean?
[14:02] <TheSheep> jusama14: I don't know if it has 3d acceleration and whether it's supported under linux
[14:02] <TheSheep> jusama14: S3 is the name of the company that produced this graphics card
[14:03] <jusama14> TheSheep, I know in the previous versions of xubuntu I had this same problem and it took me a while with someone on here to get it working
[14:03] <TheSheep> jusama14: maybe look at the forums, it might be documented
[14:03] <jusama14> on this very same computer...glxgears used to work
[14:03] <jusama14> ohk
[14:07] <jusama14> dang computer froze again
[14:08] <jusama14> TheSheep, this guy has the same card as mine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439590
[14:09] <jusama14> he has it working
[14:22] <jusama14> can anyone help?
[14:46] <bart1105> does anyone have an hp dv series laptop?
[14:49] <bart1105> does anyone have an hp dv6000 series laptop?
[15:32] <Emof> How do i disable the automatically launching of Totem when I insert an audio cd (I don't want any program to launch)
[15:36] <TheSheep> Emof: in thunar go to edit->settings->advanced->configure volume manager
[15:37] <TheSheep> s/settings/preferences/
[15:38] <ablomen_> TheSheep, heh he left already ;)
[15:39] <TheSheep> noooooo
[15:39] <ablomen_> :P
[15:40] <TheSheep> come back, I want to help you
[15:46] <garuhhh> hi! i need help installing my TNT2 M64 driver...downloaded the driverfrom nvidia, am having problems with precompiled kernel
[15:46] <TheSheep> garuhhh: just install the driver from the ubntu trepositories
[15:46] <TheSheep> repositories
[15:47] <garuhhh> TheSheep: thanks..my problem is my pc is not directly connected to theinternet
[15:48] <TheSheep> garuhhh: synaptic has an option to generate a script that you can run on another computer to download packages
[15:48] <TheSheep> garuhhh: or you can download them manually from packages.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <garuhhh> TheSheep: oh? reallly?! didn't know that!how?
[15:48] <TheSheep> garuhhh: it's in the menu
[15:49] <garuhhh> TheSheep: hmmm...i'll check it later at home.. anyway, i'll drop by the ubuntu site now..
[15:50] <TheSheep> I'm not entirely sure, but I though that the cd includes the restricted drivers now
[15:50] <garuhhh> TheSheep: what are restricted drivers?
[15:52] <TheSheep> !nvidia
[15:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:28] <bulio> can I install xubuntu on top of normal Ubuntu?
[16:29] <thomas__> bulio yes, run the command: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <bulio> ok, thanks
[16:56] <mrmonday> What's the command to run the XFCE settings manager?
[16:58] <Catoptromancy> xfce + tab
[17:02] <mrmonday> thanks
[17:20] <liddan> I just installed xubuntu and I am unable to watch flash content in firefox. Even though flashplugin-nonfree is installed. Firefox does not seem to detect the plugin. Tried reinstalling firefox and the plugin without success. Firefox detects the open source plugin if I install it. But that plugin seems unable to handle any of the flash content properly. How can I get firefox to detect the plugin?
[17:24] <seisen> how did you install flash?
[17:28] <liddan> "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" also tried through synaptic and using firefox own install program
[17:29] <seisen> make sure that its installing because I had problems about a week ago with not installing at the end
[17:32] <liddan> Hmm, is there a way to check if it is properly installed?
[17:32] <stone[no]> http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/
[17:33] <seisen> what I had to do was manually install the package from the adobe website
[17:39] <liddan> Hmm, seems the installer does not support 64-bit.
[17:39] <seisen> thats why its not working
[17:40] <seisen>  let me find the link to help you
[17:41] <seisen> http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/
[17:42] <liddan> I will try that, thanks alot!
[17:43] <seisen> np
[17:45] <liddan> I should have payed more attention: "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" "The Flash plugin is NOT installed." For some reason it is marked as installed.
[17:46] <stone[no]> the .deb expects ver 9.0.48, adobe has changed it to 9.0.115
[17:46] <seisen> I ran into the same problem
[17:48] <stone[no]> I've got ver 9.0.48. I still have a copy in my cache if your interested.
[17:51] <liddan> It is marked as Bug #173890. I guess they are working on it. Thanks stone.
[17:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install... new version?" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173890
[17:54] <krzysz00> Is there a Xubuntu screen magnifier?
[17:54] <krzysz00> Is Xubuntu 8.04 stable?
[18:34] <eldonz> I've tried to install xubuntu on a 586 mini-PC but get "No installable kernel was found". Any suggestions?
[18:37] <elbing> wtf "mini-PC"?
[18:37] <elbing> if it's i586 generic kernel should work
[18:37] <eldonz> An SiS 586 compatible processor with 128 MB RAM and 2 GB CF card
[18:37] <TheSheep> what's sis 586?
[18:37] <eldonz> The alternate CD seems to work fine
[18:38] <eldonz> Sis made the processor
[18:38] <psych> parted just crashed when creating/formating new partitions
[18:38] <elbing> huh I don't know if kernel still support cyrix and sis, but alternate cd should help you
[18:38] <psych> and installer disappeared
[18:39] <psych> i got 3 non-working partitions
[18:39] <evil_tech> i would imagine that it should work fine as long as they are x86 procesors
[18:39] <elbing> psych: what kind of hdd has your machine? sata ide?
[18:39] <psych> ide
[18:39] <eldonz> Is there a way to tell the installer to use a generic processor kernel?
[18:39] <psych> 160gb ide
[18:39] <psych> laptop
[18:40] <elbing> has it "ide emulation" in BIOS?
[18:40] <elbing> some HP series has troubles with it
[18:40] <psych> nope
[18:40] <psych> its an old toshiba celeron 1ghz
[18:41] <elbing> is there any other os in hdd?
[18:41] <psych> it was an empty hdd
[18:41] <psych> right from store
[18:43] <psych> elbing, would help if i create all those partitions before run the installer?
[18:46] <elbing> I thought that, but I thought you don't want make it too :p
[18:46] <elbing> yes I would try that way
[18:46] <elbing> or leaving to installer parting itself with no hand
[18:47] <psych> i just installed windows
[18:47] <psych> when X starts
[18:47] <psych> i get a black screen
[18:47] <elbing> video?
[18:47] <psych> so i need to use my old xorg.conf (gentoo box)
[18:47] <elbing> intel, ati?
[18:47] <psych> i830M
[18:48] <psych> and after that, 'episode'
[18:48] <elbing> try i810 with 1024x768
[18:48] <psych> i cant run x
[18:48] <elbing> as driver, of course
[18:48] <psych> how i can change
[18:48] <elbing> I've got an i845G running in that mode
[18:48] <psych> i thought about use vga=normal
[18:49] <psych> at boot
[18:49] <elbing> well ctrl-alt-F1 and vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:49] <psych> ic
[18:49] <elbing> at boot?
[18:49] <psych> but sometimes
[18:49] <psych> x crashes everything
[18:49] <psych> console and etc
[18:50] <elbing> humm don't care about boot, when you change intel driver to i810 boot will be normal
[18:50] <psych> so i cant ctrl+alt
[18:50] <psych> framebuffer worked fine
[18:50] <elbing> humm... vesa
[18:50] <elbing> boot in single user mode
[18:50] <elbing> you can edit xorg and try vesa
[18:50] <psych> i would like to have a non-x installer
[18:50] <elbing> or i810 directly
[18:50] <psych> but i havent a cdrw
[18:51] <psych> i810 was what i used
[18:51] <elbing> yah, xD I hope opensolaris support my sound card soon too xD
[18:51] <psych> but with aiglx
[18:51] <elbing> I've got compiz qith that chip
[18:51] <elbing> *with
[18:51] <psych> i ran beryl for couple weeks
[18:51] <elbing> beryl is out of support
[18:51] <psych> i ran it when it was :)
[18:52] <elbing> beryl worked for me well with i845G
[18:52] <psych> compiz than beryl than compiz
[18:52] <psych> thats weird
[18:52] <psych> xorg can share 64mb of my ram
[18:53] <psych> bios, only 8mb
[18:55] <elbing> in any case, compiz script must be edited with a card with less than 64MB
[18:55] <elbing> so, with that ram you are very patient
[18:55] <psych> ive 512ram
[18:55] <psych> but the video card is poor :)
[18:56] <elbing> very patient... in these days half GB is not great yet
[18:56] <elbing> but to play doom with an opengl port very nice :p
[18:56] <psych> hehe
[18:56] <psych> i was playing medal of honor
[18:56] <psych> windoze :)
[18:56] <psych> allied assault
[18:56] <elbing> oh my favourite game
[18:57] <elbing> there is a port in iccubus.org
[18:57] <psych> nice
[18:57] <elbing> you just need the CD's
[18:57] <elbing> about other games from ID Software you just need *.pk3 files (quake4 is nice in linux too)
[19:24] <neur1> anyone know where to find the conky file?
[19:32] <evil_tech> conky?
[19:36] <neur1> the file so I can customise it
[19:36] <neur1> .conkyrc
[19:40] <evil_tech> well you can type locate conky in a terminal and that will look for it
[19:40] <evil_tech> or you could do ls / | grep conky
[19:43] <neur1> in the terminal?
[19:43] <evil_tech> yeah
[19:43] <neur1> o.k.
[19:46] <neur1>  this exact command? = / | grep conky
[19:47] <neur1> i get : / : is a directory
[19:47] <evil_tech> just a sec
[19:48] <neur1> k
[19:48] <evil_tech> no the command is: ls / | grep conky
[19:50] <neur1> k
[19:53] <neur1> what charecter is that before s?
[19:54] <evil_tech> an l
[19:54] <evil_tech> L
[19:54] <neur1> k
[19:55] <evil_tech> basic command line commands man basic command line commands (say that 5 times fast :P )
[19:56] <evil_tech> ls, grep, locate, find, mkdir, rm, cp, mv, touch
[19:58] <evil_tech> you should google those. all very handy commands for basic file management from a terminal
[19:59] <neur1> k
[20:01] <neur1> thanks
[20:02] <evil_tech> np
[20:42] <aladdinsane> I know im not the only one with this problem, but how do i get my Ati Radeon 7200 to work at least half decently, right now im using the "radeon" driver in ubuntu and i have no problems at all with doing normal stuff, but as soon as a little 3d comes into play it goes slooooooow...help?
[20:43] <stone[no]> the free radeon driver does not supprt 3d, as far as I know
[20:43] <stone[no]> install the non-free
[20:45] <aladdinsane> yes but as far as i know there isn't one
[20:45] <aladdinsane> i havent found one for Radeon 7200 anyway
[20:46] <evil_tech> nor is there one for the mobility radeon 7500 in my thinkpad
[20:46] <aladdinsane> there is one for Radeon 9XXX and above though
[20:46] <stone[no]> how about those released by ATI?
[20:46] <aladdinsane> evil_tech: have you looked around?
[20:47] <evil_tech> not yet
[20:47] <aladdinsane> stone[no]: there are no released by ati for linux, as far as i can see
[20:48] <stone[no]> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[20:49] <aladdinsane> stone[no]: yep, been there done that
[20:49] <aladdinsane> still no support for my 7200
[20:50] <stone[no]> I don't any other option, sorry mate.
[20:51] <stone[no]> know any other*
[20:52] <aladdinsane> i dont think there is an official solution, but maybe someone out there has managed to get it to work in some magical way
[20:53] <stone[no]> don't buy ati in the future, their linux driver suppor stink... ;)
[20:53] <stone[no]> support
[20:56] <Sulle> annyone here ? :P
[20:56] <stone[no]> hello
[20:56] <Sulle> what program can i use to see ram usage etc that is on my desktop?
[20:57] <evil_tech> free -m
[20:57] <evil_tech> from the terminal
[20:58] <stone[no]> aladdinsane: How 'bout xserver-xorg-radeonhd or xserver-xorg-radonhd-c?
[20:58] <stone[no]> Not sure if those will help
[21:00] <aladdinsane> stone[no]: i got a tip now to activate Direct Rendering, you know anything about that?
[21:02] <stone[no]> not much, all I know is that my old radoen card was a big hassle to get working on my gentoo box...
[21:03] <stone[no]> I think it has something to do woth memory access
[21:04] <aladdinsane> ok, yes after scanning the net for a solution i have realized that there might be no solutions..well, just have to keep away from 3d i guess..
[21:07] <stone[no]> Sometimes begin a linux user is a drag, 'cus your dependant on vendors to release drivers or som smart guy to make them...
[21:41] <somerville32> stone[no], Isn't it the same deal with Windows? :P
[21:42] <evil_tech> :)
[21:42] <evil_tech> that is true
[21:43] <stone[no]> somerville32: Hmm, in 'indows there are allways drivers available, though they sometimes mess up the system ;)
[21:44] <somerville32> That is a fallacy
[21:45] <stone[no]> somerville32: explain please :)
[21:45] <somerville32> Especially when it comes to Vista
[21:46] <somerville32> There are a lot of devices that don't have drivers yet
[21:46] <somerville32> If you mean there are "generic drivers", linux has those too (ie. Vesa)
[21:52] <stone[no]> somerville32: I've no experience with vista, thankfully. With every hardware I've bought there has allways been an included windows driver. I see your point on vista, I've heard similar complaints.
[21:54] <seisen> With Vista half the programs that work in XP don't even work in Vista
[21:58] <thegeeker> I just tried Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu under Gutsy today.
[21:58] <thegeeker> Bravo to the xubuntu guys!
[22:00] <ahillsbe> i am having problems with sdb
[22:01] <thegeeker> Xubuntu with Clearlooks theme is better-looking than anything I could come up with in Gnome and KDE
[22:07] <ahillsbe> can someone help with sdb read/mount problems
[22:08] <march> hi
[22:11] <ahillsbe> i cannot mount or view files in my sdb hdd
[22:16] <seisen> what format is sdb
[22:18] <ahillsbe> ntfs
[22:23] <seisen> do you have ntfs-3g installed
[22:42] <bart1105> good morning
[22:43] <evil_tech> afternoon
[22:43] <evil_tech> for me
[22:43] <evil_tech> :)
[22:45] <ja-barr> it's getting later in the afternoon
[22:45]  * ja-barr = playing with a new wireless card
[22:57] <bart1105> good day then...
[22:58] <bart1105> it's around 7 am here
[23:06] <march> 0:06 here ;)
[23:06] <evil_tech> 15:06
[23:11] <bart1105> cool
[23:21] <march> n8
[23:29] <bart1105> i'm a noob to linux, how do i set it up so that i can share my folders and view shared folders on windows machines on the home network?
[23:30] <drc822> samba
[23:30] <somerville32> !samba | bart1105
[23:30] <ubotu> bart1105: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[23:33] <ahillsbe> yes i have ntfs-3g installed, but it does not see sdb
[23:33] <bart1105> thanx. i'll try it
[23:40] <daurnimator> hey
[23:40] <daurnimator> audio isn't working on my comp
[23:40] <daurnimator> says the device is unavailable or something
[23:44] <daurnimator> mmmm
[23:44] <daurnimator> skype was locking it