[00:01] what's alpha one? [00:01] oh, for teh next ubuntu version [00:01] ? [00:01] evil_tech: see topic [00:01] i should have known that [00:02] im helping test it [00:02] bdur [00:02] its been one of them days [00:04] where do you get teh test images? [00:04] the link in the MOTD [00:05] https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/ [00:05] what's the PASTES for? [00:06] found the ISOs [00:08] The pastebin provides a way to share large error logs without flooding the channel. [00:09] cool coo [00:10] that is a smart idea [00:11] uh [00:11] is there a test ubuntu-server iso? [00:11] should [00:12] can't find it [00:14] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ [00:23] THANKs EVIL TECH! [00:23] np [00:27] how long have you used xubuntu? [00:28] since warty [00:28] 5.04 i think [00:29] 4.10 [00:29] wow [00:29] thats a long time [00:30] yeah, wow [00:30] warty was 4.109 [00:30] 4.19* [00:31] 4.10* [00:31] arg..stupid pinky finger [00:31] lol [00:36] 3 years [00:36] almost 4 [00:36] and i'm still der uber-n00b [00:36] crazy [00:36] heh [00:37] ha, you can install Ubuntu on the PS3.....nerd [00:54] hmm Brasero keeps accessing drives when you tell it to close after successful burn [01:06] brasero is...? [01:09] cd burning application [01:12] that's what i figured [01:15] n8 [01:15] ? [01:16] Good night ;) [01:16] It's 2:16 A.M. where I live :) CU [01:17] hi [01:18] is there anyone here who is very knowledgeable in linux troubleshooting, particularly issues with X and drivers? [01:18] hello [01:18] ha i saw your post on ubuntu and i was trying to think of how to solve it [01:18] im not so sure though [01:19] i think i'm going to have to format and reinstall. is there a "system restore" feature I could use in the future? [01:20] i dont think so [01:20] thats more of a windoze thing [01:20] a reinstall should take bout 30 minutes [01:21] what kind of problem is it? [01:21] seisen: (pasted) X will no longer boot after I changed drivers from the proprietary ATI to the open one. Reconfiguring xorg.conf (either directly or by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) did not work [01:22] that is weird [01:23] do you have a backup xorg.conf file [01:23] I had a low resolution, so I enabled the restricted ATI driver. It allowed me to use high resolutions. Then due to a bug in KDE and the proprietary driver (basically, the whole OS crashes if I try to switch users/start new X session), I switched back to Open driver...and X won't boot [01:23] i see [01:23] I did, and I tried replacing it with one from 2 days ago...no luck [01:23] KDE? [01:23] is the setting for which driver to use reall in xorg.conf? [01:24] evil: I installed Xubuntu, then downloaded the KDE Desktop package yesterday [01:24] ah [01:25] what would happen if I reinstalled over this, without formatting? [01:26] would I keep all my personal files/downloaded packages? [01:26] depends [01:27] I would make backups on unreplaceable stuff [01:27] and use a different login name [01:27] but if you dont format. it will probably save them [01:27] resintalling OS just installs stuff to root [01:27] so your /home should be untouched [01:28] backups are a good idea anyway [01:29] when you reinstall create a seperate /home partition [01:30] thanks for the help [01:40] wish you could put /home on a seperate drive [01:41] it's OK, I'll use a different username [01:42] i have one last idea...how can I install fglrx from the console? What apt command do I need to send? [01:42] maybe by installing it, it'll implement its own settings [01:43] do you mean downloading with apt-get [01:44] yes [01:44] sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-fglrx? [01:44] thank you [01:44] i dont know if that is right [01:45] just a best gues [01:45] that is correct evil_tech [01:45] it works [01:46] says "couldn't find package xserver-xorg-fglrx" [01:47] you need to enable the restricted repositories [01:47] then it it will work [01:48] how can I do this from the console? I already had that checked in the Ubuntu control panel, when I still had X. [01:50] duh I see what is wrong the correct name is xorg-driver-fglrx sorry for that mistake I'm tired [01:50] thanks, works now [01:50] i thought it was weird that I couldn't google "couldn't find package xserver-xorg-fglrx" [01:51] np [01:53] didn't work. Oh well, time to format. Thanks for taking the time to help me, guys. Have a good evening. [01:53] err, not format, I meant reinstall over the current install :P [01:54] why not just restore the backup xorg.conf [01:54] ? [01:58] oh he left [01:58] need my eyes checked [03:06] EW, cpu too old for this kernel [03:11] can you install a different kernel with the alternate install CD? [03:11] Why is your cpu too old for the kernel? [03:11] And are you running Xubuntu right now? [03:12] You can install another kernel while running and then reboot into it [03:13] i installed ubuntu-server Handy 8.04 [03:14] You might try #ubuntu-server for support than? [03:14] And Hardy is unsupported as it is unreleased [03:14] see #ubuntu+1 [03:15] my plan was to do some testing, install xorg after i finished install..then install xfce [03:17] well...i'll check it out then... [03:18] if I have a dual boot, and I reformat the partitions to add xubuntu will it find the other os's? [03:19] neur1, depends on how you do it [03:20] example . . . [03:20] neur1, I'm afraid I need you to explain exactly what you're doing for me to answer. [03:20] k [03:20] Reformatting a partition doesn't do anything but reformat a partition. I assume you're going to do something after that [03:20] What you do after that might auto-configure grub [03:21] I have a dual boot intact but need to have a partition (new) for xubuntu [03:21] that makes no sense...sine i have a p4 3.2 [03:22] neur1, Well, when you install Xubuntu, you'll want to repartition. The install should auto-detect the other OSes [03:22] jjmiv, hmm? [03:23] o.k.it will see the others and grub will do the work? [03:23] neur1, it should, yes [03:23] !grub | neur1 [03:23] neur1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [03:24] somerville32: not sure why it said "cpu too old for this kernel" when i have a P4 3.2 [03:24] eh...wait a sec [03:26] thanks is this process succesful most of the time lol . . . or should I just keep two os's at a time [03:27] neur1, why would it not work? Just another item on the grub boot menu :) [03:27] cool [03:28] and I can add a home partition too [03:28] gg, later guys [03:32] is there a opacity setting for the top and bottom panels? [03:32] opps never mind sorry [03:49] thanks guys see you later [05:40] i'm trying to burn an iso image with xfburn and as soon as i click burn it gives me a 100% complete result window.. [05:41] anyone's got any idea of why it thinks the job is done? [05:44] so apperantly xfburn doesnt do ISO.... o.0 ... [06:09] is there an xubuntu forum? [06:12] no [06:13] dont believe so usually everything in the ubuntu forum should work fine [06:14] o.k. === daurnimas is now known as daurnimator [06:47] hello everyone [06:49] hiya [08:17] does anybody know why ubuntu 7.10 gives me a unix prompt and says "no resume image" when I update? [09:16] !ntfs [09:16] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [09:17] !ntfs-3g [09:17] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [10:18] hi [10:18] I want to install eclipse 3.3, but in the repos is only eclipse 3.2, whats the best way to handle that? use debian packages? === totalwormage is now known as totalyourface [11:19] Hi, how to add aplications to the menu bar? [11:20] benpicco: right-click and select 'add new item' [11:21] nothing happens if i do this in the Applications menue [11:21] benpicco: ah, settings->menu editor [11:21] benpicco: that's not a bar [11:21] :) [11:22] well, i'd like to add something to e.g. education or Games - i can't find something like this in the menu editor [11:24] benpicco: just create such a submenu, they will be "merged" then [11:24] ok, thx [11:24] benpicco: make sure you add the submenu above the include [11:26] good evening, i just installed xubuntu gutsy on my laptop and now my boot up time is much slower [11:28] benpicco: do you have printer? [11:29] TheSheep, erm not here but at home [11:29] benpicco: sorry [11:29] benpicco: wrong nick :) [11:29] bart1105: fo you have printer? if not, you can disable cups, it will make it a little faster [11:30] bart1105: in system->services [11:33] thesheep: thanx [11:35] thesheep: how long does it take for your login screen to be available? it takes around 3 to 4 mins for me [11:35] bart1105: that's *much* too long! [11:35] bart1105: is it eveyry time? [11:35] bart1105: because it will check the disks once in a while, and then it can take long [11:37] thesheep: yes... i used the xubuntu desktop disc, i'm updating it now... hopefully it will be resolved [11:37] bart1105: livecd is much slower too [11:38] thesheep: but i installed it on my system already? should i download the alternate and install again?\ [11:39] bart1105: no [11:39] bart1105: they install exactly the same thing [11:42] thesheep: is there a way i can get the boot up to become verbose so i can see what's slowing it down? [11:45] hi [11:46] bart1105: yes, edit as root the file /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options from your menu entry [11:47] thesheep: how do i edit as root?? [11:48] bart1105: open terminal and type 'sudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst' [11:49] thesheep: ok, thanx [12:12] thesheep: to install openoffice i just type 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org' ? [12:15] bart1105: better just use synaptic [12:15] thesheep: ok\ [13:39] hello, I really need help getting the correct drivers..how can I test if it's working fine or not? [13:39] like how can I check if I have the right ones [13:42] student002: if it works, they are right [13:42] TheSheep, what about 3d accelleration [13:42] see I'm having this problem with wine and no one in #winehq knows [13:43] knows what? [13:43] No one there knows how to solve the problem..they're only suggestion is that my 3d accel isn't working [13:43] hello, whenever I try to run wine..it creates a .wine folder in my home folder named something like .winZ82YIU [13:43] or something [13:43] and jams up my computer [13:43] that's my problem with wine [13:45] brb [13:50] hey, does anyone else have really weird problems with abiword? Like words randomly being deleted, disappeared, or changed as you type? [13:50] I'm trying to type a term paper and then wtf. [13:51] I've tried reinstalling and all that with no luck. [13:52] TheSheep: thank you.. it boots up fine now. should i install the restricted drivers? [13:54] bart1105: depends whether you want to use them [13:54] bart1105: what graphics card do you have? [13:55] Proteus: use latex [13:56] nopcode: that's not really helpful [13:56] TheSheep, I'm back [13:56] I'm the guy with the wine problem [13:56] TheSheep: neither is WYSIWYG ;P [13:57] ok, seriously [13:57] I'm not using a rock and chisel [13:57] I need grammar correction and pretty buttons [13:57] i bet emacs does that [13:57] somehow [13:57] yeah, it probably does [13:57] BUT I'M NOT DOING THAT [13:57] nopcode: that's irrelevant, abiword should work [13:58] how can I check if my 3d accel is working? [13:58] but tex is the right way to do it [13:58] Proteus: maybe you could look if the bug has been reported and if not, report it? [13:58] jusama14: try running glgears [13:58] glxgears right? [13:58] nopcode: I know that, you know that, so what [13:59] http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575393 [13:59] TheSheep: so well, abiword is irrelevant [13:59] I guess I'm not the only one with the problem [13:59] nopcode: it's included in xubuntu, so it's supported, if you can't help, don't troll [14:00] TheSheep: it's an Ati 200m chipset [14:01] back..my computer jammed when I typed in glxgears [14:01] I had to force restart [14:01] jusama14: what graphics card do you have? [14:01] some onboard via [14:01] bart1105: if you plan on using 3d acceleration, restricted drivers might be helpful [14:01] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01) [14:02] ok.. thanx [14:02] jusama14: S3 [14:02] s3? yeah what does that mean? [14:02] jusama14: I don't know if it has 3d acceleration and whether it's supported under linux [14:02] jusama14: S3 is the name of the company that produced this graphics card [14:03] TheSheep, I know in the previous versions of xubuntu I had this same problem and it took me a while with someone on here to get it working [14:03] jusama14: maybe look at the forums, it might be documented [14:03] on this very same computer...glxgears used to work [14:03] ohk [14:07] dang computer froze again [14:08] TheSheep, this guy has the same card as mine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439590 [14:09] he has it working [14:22] can anyone help? [14:46] does anyone have an hp dv series laptop? [14:49] does anyone have an hp dv6000 series laptop? [15:32] How do i disable the automatically launching of Totem when I insert an audio cd (I don't want any program to launch) [15:36] Emof: in thunar go to edit->settings->advanced->configure volume manager [15:37] s/settings/preferences/ [15:38] TheSheep, heh he left already ;) [15:39] noooooo [15:39] :P [15:40] come back, I want to help you [15:46] hi! i need help installing my TNT2 M64 driver...downloaded the driverfrom nvidia, am having problems with precompiled kernel [15:46] garuhhh: just install the driver from the ubntu trepositories [15:46] repositories [15:47] TheSheep: thanks..my problem is my pc is not directly connected to theinternet [15:48] garuhhh: synaptic has an option to generate a script that you can run on another computer to download packages [15:48] garuhhh: or you can download them manually from packages.ubuntu.com [15:48] TheSheep: oh? reallly?! didn't know that!how? [15:48] garuhhh: it's in the menu [15:49] TheSheep: hmmm...i'll check it later at home.. anyway, i'll drop by the ubuntu site now.. [15:50] I'm not entirely sure, but I though that the cd includes the restricted drivers now [15:50] TheSheep: what are restricted drivers? [15:52] !nvidia [15:52] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [16:28] can I install xubuntu on top of normal Ubuntu? [16:29] bulio yes, run the command: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [16:29] ok, thanks === maristo is now known as maristo|away [16:56] What's the command to run the XFCE settings manager? [16:58] xfce + tab [17:02] thanks === michael__ is now known as seisen [17:20] I just installed xubuntu and I am unable to watch flash content in firefox. Even though flashplugin-nonfree is installed. Firefox does not seem to detect the plugin. Tried reinstalling firefox and the plugin without success. Firefox detects the open source plugin if I install it. But that plugin seems unable to handle any of the flash content properly. How can I get firefox to detect the plugin? [17:24] how did you install flash? [17:28] "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" also tried through synaptic and using firefox own install program [17:29] make sure that its installing because I had problems about a week ago with not installing at the end [17:32] Hmm, is there a way to check if it is properly installed? [17:32] http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ [17:33] what I had to do was manually install the package from the adobe website [17:39] Hmm, seems the installer does not support 64-bit. [17:39] thats why its not working [17:40] let me find the link to help you [17:41] http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/ [17:42] I will try that, thanks alot! [17:43] np [17:45] I should have payed more attention: "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" "The Flash plugin is NOT installed." For some reason it is marked as installed. [17:46] the .deb expects ver 9.0.48, adobe has changed it to 9.0.115 [17:46] I ran into the same problem [17:48] I've got ver 9.0.48. I still have a copy in my cache if your interested. [17:51] It is marked as Bug #173890. I guess they are working on it. Thanks stone. [17:51] Launchpad bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install... new version?" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173890 [17:54] Is there a Xubuntu screen magnifier? [17:54] Is Xubuntu 8.04 stable? [18:34] I've tried to install xubuntu on a 586 mini-PC but get "No installable kernel was found". Any suggestions? [18:37] wtf "mini-PC"? [18:37] if it's i586 generic kernel should work [18:37] An SiS 586 compatible processor with 128 MB RAM and 2 GB CF card [18:37] what's sis 586? [18:37] The alternate CD seems to work fine [18:38] Sis made the processor [18:38] parted just crashed when creating/formating new partitions [18:38] huh I don't know if kernel still support cyrix and sis, but alternate cd should help you [18:38] and installer disappeared [18:39] i got 3 non-working partitions [18:39] i would imagine that it should work fine as long as they are x86 procesors [18:39] psych: what kind of hdd has your machine? sata ide? [18:39] ide [18:39] Is there a way to tell the installer to use a generic processor kernel? [18:39] 160gb ide [18:39] laptop [18:40] has it "ide emulation" in BIOS? [18:40] some HP series has troubles with it [18:40] nope [18:40] its an old toshiba celeron 1ghz [18:41] is there any other os in hdd? [18:41] it was an empty hdd [18:41] right from store [18:43] elbing, would help if i create all those partitions before run the installer? [18:46] I thought that, but I thought you don't want make it too :p [18:46] yes I would try that way [18:46] or leaving to installer parting itself with no hand [18:47] i just installed windows [18:47] when X starts [18:47] i get a black screen [18:47] video? [18:47] so i need to use my old xorg.conf (gentoo box) [18:47] intel, ati? [18:47] i830M [18:48] and after that, 'episode' [18:48] try i810 with 1024x768 [18:48] i cant run x [18:48] as driver, of course [18:48] how i can change [18:48] I've got an i845G running in that mode [18:48] i thought about use vga=normal [18:49] at boot [18:49] well ctrl-alt-F1 and vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:49] ic [18:49] at boot? [18:49] but sometimes [18:49] x crashes everything [18:49] console and etc [18:50] humm don't care about boot, when you change intel driver to i810 boot will be normal [18:50] so i cant ctrl+alt [18:50] framebuffer worked fine [18:50] humm... vesa [18:50] boot in single user mode [18:50] you can edit xorg and try vesa [18:50] i would like to have a non-x installer [18:50] or i810 directly [18:50] but i havent a cdrw [18:51] i810 was what i used [18:51] yah, xD I hope opensolaris support my sound card soon too xD [18:51] but with aiglx [18:51] I've got compiz qith that chip [18:51] *with [18:51] i ran beryl for couple weeks [18:51] beryl is out of support [18:51] i ran it when it was :) [18:52] beryl worked for me well with i845G [18:52] compiz than beryl than compiz [18:52] thats weird [18:52] xorg can share 64mb of my ram [18:53] bios, only 8mb [18:55] in any case, compiz script must be edited with a card with less than 64MB [18:55] so, with that ram you are very patient [18:55] ive 512ram [18:55] but the video card is poor :) [18:56] very patient... in these days half GB is not great yet [18:56] but to play doom with an opengl port very nice :p [18:56] hehe [18:56] i was playing medal of honor [18:56] windoze :) [18:56] allied assault [18:56] oh my favourite game [18:57] there is a port in iccubus.org [18:57] nice [18:57] you just need the CD's [18:57] about other games from ID Software you just need *.pk3 files (quake4 is nice in linux too) [19:24] anyone know where to find the conky file? [19:32] conky? [19:36] the file so I can customise it [19:36] .conkyrc [19:40] well you can type locate conky in a terminal and that will look for it [19:40] or you could do ls / | grep conky [19:43] in the terminal? [19:43]