kprWATCH CHA!00:00
nosrednaekimgood :D00:00
kprGreat =]00:00
nosrednaekimKingzar: shortcuts working?00:03
Kingzari haven't restarted00:03
Kingzari won't try untill i can get compiz fusion working00:03
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nosrednaekimKingzar: :D00:03
Kingzari would like to know why the upgrading part is soo slow00:04
* nosrednaekim cries since his dad didn't get him the KDE4-RC2 packages00:04
Kingzarit goes at 25 kb/s max while i can get up to 600kb/.s00:04
nosrednaekimKingzar: you are probably using the main mirrors, which are slow00:05
Kingzarare there alternative ways to get this done fast?00:05
Kingzari don't like to be waiting 1 hour for the update00:05
nosrednaekimKingzar: adept->manage repositories00:05
nosrednaekimof course, you'll have to cancel the download (but everything so far is saved)00:06
geniiKingzar: Are you using the spanish repos then? They should be closest to you physically according to whois on your address00:06
Kingzari'm in unfamiliar water now, i just downloaded firefox for linux.. extracted the content..00:07
Kingzarso now i press a .exe?00:07
Kingzarto installl00:07
nosrednaekimKingzar: no..... get firefox from adept.00:07
cheguevaraKingzar, why not install the firefox in the repositories?00:07
onishidatomaybe it's yep00:07
onishidatono exe in Linux00:07
nosrednaekimKingzar: almost every program for linux is in the repositories where it is simple to install00:08
kprYeah, don't you know .exe's are from the evil Windows. We kill Doze users here. Bow down to Linus. He is a god. ;)00:08
onishidatohey, can someone tell me how to fix the amarok. i can't make it play mp300:08
* genii makes kpr's next coffee a decaf00:09
kpronishidato: Do you have the correct codecs installed?00:09
ardchoillehahaha genii00:09
nosrednaekim!mp3 | onishidato00:09
ubotuonishidato: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:09
imlaidbacregister open4me00:09
onishidatoi have all stuff install00:09
kprFool, my coffee is already a decaf!00:09
* kpr drinks more.00:09
geniiKingzar: You are right now in the middle of some system update?00:09
geniikpr: :)00:09
BluesKajkpr, libxine1-ffmpeg00:09
onishidatoi don't know why it can't play mp3 also00:09
Kingzari just got my ubuntu working after 5 days.. and it's updating now00:10
kpr?? What about Xine?00:10
kprI didn't ask the question.00:10
geniiKingzar: After the update is done, open the package manager and install firefox from there00:10
Kingzaris there a ctrl + alt + del... function in linux00:10
kprPeople think I ask questions when I don't and when I do, they think I don't. =[00:10
BluesKajerr onishidato, libxine1-ffmpeg00:10
stdinKingzar: ctrl-alt-esc00:10
geniiKingzar: It's  advisable to let the update finish00:10
onishidatocan you tell me more detai?00:11
kprKingzar: Highly advisable00:11
Kingzartoo late, thnx for the advise00:11
Kingzari think i messed it up00:11
Kingzareverytime i startup adept manager now it says it's in use balblalabl00:11
BluesKajonishidato, in the konsole : sudo apt-get install libxine-ffmpeg00:11
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:12
BluesKajoops libxine1-ffmpeg , onishidato00:12
nosrednaekimKingzar: that is if you don't have an instance running00:12
geniionishidato: Visit the websites provided to you above for help on getting mp3 and other copyrighted things to play00:12
Voyage__iam using virtual box to run winxp .  how to share files and folders in win xp? it only shows c: .         (in linux virtual box tells me to use "net use x:\\vboxsvr\shareedfoldername"  ) didnt got it.00:12
Kingzarthank you00:13
onishidatogenii: i have visit it, and nothing change:D00:13
Kingzarhow would you remember that code out of your head lol00:13
stdinwhy not, I do00:13
geniionishidato: You visit it, follow the instructions given there. Just visiting does nothing00:13
onishidatoof course i follow all the instruction lol00:14
onishidatobut nothing change00:14
Kingzarhmm so what firefox version should i choose out of the 50?>00:14
geniionishidato: What application are you trying to play the mp3 with?00:14
BluesKajonishidato, relogin sometime helps...or closing amarok and restarting it00:15
onishidatorestart a thousand times00:15
onishidatobut nothing happen00:15
gabriel_i just installed the no-ip client package (for dynamic ip).. umm.. how do i configure it?00:15
onishidatowhen i try to play some mp3 file00:15
onishidatothey said that the mp3 format is now install00:15
onishidatoplease restart your amarok00:16
onishidatobut when i try to restart00:16
onishidatonothing happen00:16
gabriel_onishidato: u running live cd?00:16
BluesKajdo you close it in the panel too ?00:16
onishidatoi close it every where00:17
onishidatoi run the file in my computer00:17
onishidatonot live one00:17
Kingzaranyone know how to pick the right firefox version out of the 50!?00:17
geniiin bottom right do you see Amarok icon near clock?00:17
onishidatoof course i close it too00:17
pedkingzar: 50? in official repository? I think the current "correct" one is simple "firefox"? I will check what I have got.00:18
geniiKingzar: Just use package manager to install "firefox"00:18
geniiped: Well there are plugins in there, they can be confusing to sort through00:18
onishidatoKingzaf: fire fox is uptodate, use adet to install it00:19
geniiKingzar: You have "Adept Installer" open?00:19
onishidatohelp me00:20
Kingzarbut there is firefox00:20
geniiKingzar: If so in Search part put   firefox    then a space after00:20
geniiKingzar: Just firefox00:20
pedgenii: not only plugins, also some dummy transitional packages. at least in 6.10 ..00:21
pedKingzar: pure "firefox" is enough (plus it's dependencies, but Adept does mark them automatically for you)00:22
Kingzargot it00:22
onishidatohey ho00:23
onishidatocan someone help me00:24
ardchoilleonishidato: With what?00:24
onishidatoAmarok mp3 player00:24
Kingzarhmm Remember anyone i told msn on kopete didn't work because of wallet.. well if i try to login on hotmail.com directly and i say store.. wallet interfering again, result password incorrect. if i say do not store, ic an login..00:24
downandouthello all00:25
pedare problems with connecting from kubuntu 7.10 on internet common? I installed it on one laptop, and whether I try wire or WiFi, I can't connect to my PC with kubu 6.10 sharing inet connection. (when I boot WXP, both WiFi and wire works just as expected) ... when I tried things like sudo dhcpclient eth0, I don't see any RX packet on the PC side on that one eth0 ... any ideas or what I should try next?00:25
downandoutcan someone tell me the name of the config file where kontact defines the spamfilter software it can use? Kontact isn't detecting spamassassin and i remember last time I had to change the path in that config to detect it00:26
onishidatocan someone show me some mp3 player you usually use? i'm gonna hate Linux now.... grrrr00:27
downandoutnevermind its kmail.antispamrc00:27
downandoutgood old help files :)00:27
MidMarkped: depends, do you connect to a router or to what?00:31
BluesKajonishidato, do any other players work ?00:31
onishidatoi use mplayer and it works00:31
downandoutjust a little suggestions for kubuntu change kmail.antispamrc "PipeCmdDetect=spamassassin -L" to  "PipeCmdDetect=spamassassin -V"00:31
downandoutIt will fix the detection of the antispam in kontact00:31
pedonishidato: I use amarok, works for me, but I used automatix or some ugly script like that back than when I was installing this 6.10 ... I'm trying to migrate to 7.10 lately, but lot of work with it and I'm too busy to finish it anytime soon.00:32
BluesKajok onishidato , then reinstall amarok with adept00:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:32
pedMidMark: "internet setup": usb ADSL modem <-> PC with kubu 6.10 + forwarding connection trough iptables + dhcpd <-> 1) ethernet card 2) WiFi card in ad-hoc WEP00:33
Kingzaris it not possible to load mp3s in amarok from a windows drive?00:34
Kingzari cannot play mp3s00:34
Kingzarand they are in a windows drive00:34
kub^^hi i have set a static ip with system settings | network settings but after i reboot it goes onto DHCP, how do i fix this?00:34
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DaSkreech!mp3 | Kingzar00:34
ubotuKingzar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:34
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onishidatoreinstall it00:35
onishidatolet me try00:35
BluesKajthen relogin00:35
pedMidMark: notebook doing problems: asus S96Fm (rebranded as HAL3000, local brand probably) ... ethernet + WiFi ... in WinXP both works, the wire automagically, the WiFi after entering my password for WE P.... I booted up 7.10 liveCD, installed on disk, rebooted ... tried to connect. All I get is after several seconds the avahi-like IP. (both eth0 and wifi eth1 interfaces, whichever I try) ...00:36
pedMidMark: on the PC side when I check ifconfig eth0, there's no RX packets arriving at all from notebook. (when I try to run sudo dhcpclient on notebook .. it's writing it's sending dhcp requests several times.. .but no RX packet at all on PC side)00:37
onishidatoi'm trying to install it again00:38
Kingzaris there anything about external harddisk formated under windows?00:38
pedMidMark: looks to me like either something's horribly broken in my 7.10 installation (but it's clean install from CD), or both WiFi and ethernet card drivers are bad on the CD and need recompile to work correctly.00:39
MidMarkped: ok wait a minute pls00:39
pedMidMark: should it work without anything special? I mean connecting the wire to ethernet, with DHCP server on second side? There's no magic "allow internet" button in 7.10, right?00:39
MidMarktryied to ping www.google.it?00:40
MidMarkor ping other machine?00:40
pedmaybe the HW is badly detected... :/ ... pity I don't have any papers from that bug, I will probably check WXP what devices are there.00:40
pedMidMark: it's dead.. no gate, no DNS ... when I let the Knetworkmanager to connect, it ends with avahi-like self DNS config.  ... didn't try ping on my PC eth0 IP directly though.00:41
onishidatois anybody Vietnamese00:43
onishidatoi need to ask a question00:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vietnam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:44
DaSkreechSilly bot00:44
hdevalencehow do I pause a gui app?00:44
DaSkreechhdevalence: ctrl+Z from the command line :)00:44
DaSkreechor send it a sigstop00:44
onishidatodoes someone know how to intsall Unicode00:44
DaSkreechonishidato: Install Unicode?00:44
hdevalenceDaSkreech: how do I do that?00:44
Minatakuonishidato: I was gonna say, your English seems pretty good00:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unicode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:45
MinatakuI assume he means Unicode locales/fonts00:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:45
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM00:45
MinatakuWhich likely aren't stock00:45
onishidatoVietnamese unicode00:45
pedonishidato: kubuntu is long time UTF-8 default distro...00:45
MinatakuI use SCIM for Japanese input. It's nice.00:45
onishidatoan UTF-1600:45
Minatakuonishidato: Vietnamese is included in SCIM00:45
onishidatodo you guys know it?00:45
pedonishidato: if you have troubles with some app, it's probably local problem with application.00:46
pedonishidato: why utf-16?00:46
onishidatocause that is the front code for Vietnamese typing00:46
pedonishidato: utf-8 is enough + SCIM00:47
pedonishidato: oh, *should be* enough. I hope it works, never tried it. ;) .. but that's the future. (of any linux)00:47
ped<ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM00:47
DaSkreech!scim | onishidato00:48
ubotuonishidato: Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM00:48
onishidatolet me try 1st00:48
hdevalenceDaSkreech: I have acidrip running and it's going out onto an external drive00:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:48
hdevalenceDaSkreech: but I need to go downstairs00:48
onishidatoseem like linux doesn't care about Vietnam00:48
Tm_Tonishidato: why so?00:49
pedonishidato: UTF-16 is used mostly in MS windows only, and as it is both more difficult to handle for old ASCII apps (UTF-8 works most of the time with legacy applications too), and yet it does not cover all characters (just like UTF-8), I don't think it has any serious future. At least outside of MS world.00:49
hdevalenceDaSkreech: So, I send mencoder a sigstop, unmount the drive, do douwnstairs, remount, unstop, continue00:49
onishidatowe just have one versoi of it called Hacao00:49
onishidatoand that is the old versoin00:50
s1icknickany idea why an extra line with no text is created between the sentences when i run this: http://pastebin.com/d17f875d800:50
Tm_Tonishidato: "Linux" isn't company, it's up to volunteers in Vietnam I afraid00:50
onishidatoonly some guys00:50
pedonishida: sorry, I have no idea how much the work on vietnamesse support is complete, etc... I can just assure you the underlaying system is ready for Vietnamese, whole *buntu is by default in UTF-8 and ready for any characters/languages.00:51
onishidatoyou guys said that skim is good for us?00:52
pedonishidato: SCIM is pretty much a standart for .jp/korea/chinese, many people are using it.00:53
onishidatono vietnam in its keyboard layout00:53
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pedonishidato: I have no idea how much work is done on Vietnam things.. sorry, I'm from europe. Try to search for some local vietnam ubuntu web/forums/wikis00:54
hdevalencehow do I tell umount to ignore 'device is busy'?00:54
pedhdevalence: -f00:54
hdevalenceped: didn't work00:54
DaSkreechhdevalence: the process is not connected to your hard drive00:54
pedhdevalence: I see.. in manual it's described for "unreachable NFS" system. ... what kind of device? any idea why it is busy?00:55
pedhdevalence: did you try umount with root permissions or user only?00:55
hdevalenceped: i have acidrip ripping & encoding to an external drive; i need to go downstairs, drive must be unplugged and replugged00:56
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DaSkreechYes but what you are not realising is that the process is not connected to the drive00:57
DaSkreechhdevalence: Is this the same machine downstairs?01:00
onishidatostill can't type Vietnamese01:00
* onishidato sings01:02
* onishidato tired01:02
pagan0necan anyone help me get a broadcom wireless card setup in 7.10? it doesnt reconize it....01:03
pedonishidato: System settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard layout -> Vietnam vn Add>>01:04
pedonishidato: I can see it there in kubu 6.10. I'm not going to try it to install and use, sorry ;)01:04
pagan0neno takers?01:08
NickPrestapagan0ne, we're here.01:09
NickPrestapagan0ne, have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:10
bazhangmore info would be helpful pagan0ne01:10
pedoh, weird... now the ethernet wire works.. sh*t .. I will have to figure out why/when it works01:10
pagan0nebazhang: what more do you need?01:10
pagan0neNickPresta: reading now01:11
junkieHey, does anyone use refit to dualboot linux and mac os x?01:28
bazhanghttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/03/make-ubuntu-the-default-boot-on-a-macbook-refit-dual-boot-system/ junkie01:29
junkienot exactly my problem, but i'll look :)01:29
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 pagan0ne01:31
junkieAt the moment, I am actually stuck in linux and i need to get back into mac os x01:33
junkiebut refit isn't showing my os x partition01:33
fusserhola que tal01:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:34
junkieSo, in other words, I need to get refit to boot mac os x :)01:35
MinatakuAs if you'd really WANT to boot OSX01:36
bazhangit would seem so junkie01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.01:36
junkiebazhang: exactly, but i just don't know how xD01:37
bazhangjunkie: not exactly a kubuntu question, sorry can't be of more help--you may want to try discussions.apple.com01:38
junkieok, thanks01:38
bazhangno problem01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:39
DaSkreechDumb bot01:39
DaSkreech##mac is where you want to be I think01:39
pedjunkie: doesn't sound good by the way... :)01:41
DaSkreechBoot up a OSX Live DVD! :)01:43
pedI think booting up linux and checking up partitions there is probably better idea01:43
junkieI'm in linux now01:43
junkieI've checked everything01:44
junkieThe only weird thing I noticed01:44
pedsudo fdisk -l01:44
s1icknickany way i can clean this up ??  http://pastebin.com/d4df0d67601:44
junkiewas that under fdisk, the partition comes up as "Linux LVM" for System01:44
pedjunkie: if you see the OSX partition there, there's still some hope01:44
junkieWhich doesn't seem right01:44
junkieIt's there, alright01:44
pedjunkie: that's good.. if it would be missing there, it would be definitely gone. So the problem is probably with "refit" (I don't know that piece of SW at all, sorry)01:45
pedjunkie: mind you, maybe it's good time to mount that OSX partition in linux (probably as read-only for safety), and copy any important data on some USB or CD/DVD ;)01:46
junkierefit is a boot loader for efi systems01:47
DaSkreechAh right01:47
DaSkreechefi has DRM in it as I recall?01:47
pedjunkie: no idea what you are talking about. (haven't seen Mac for years) Not my cup of tea.01:48
junkieDaSkreech: no idea, but i know that apple doesn't allow any access to bios settings, so probably01:49
DaSkreechThat part of the reason you can't emulate a mac?01:49
junkiei don't know, to be honest01:50
DaSkreech!ot | oy DaSkreech take it elsewhere!01:50
ubotuoy DaSkreech take it elsewhere!: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:50
DaSkreechfine you miserable bot!01:50
DaSkreechjunkie: ##mac ?01:50
junkieDaSkreech: no response01:51
DaSkreechRight of course01:51
bazhangjunkie: mac has a bunch of forums; macfixit, insanelygreatmac, etc; they will have an answer01:51
junkiei hate forums :| hopefully one of them has an irc channel01:52
DaSkreechjunkie: Well go read the forums and see if they have one :)01:53
junkieDaSkreech: oh the irony :)01:53
DaSkreechAint it?01:54
pednight everyone01:54
ubotuIt's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.01:54
bazhanghttp://macirc.co.uk/channels.php junkie01:55
DaSkreechoh wait01:55
pedDaSkreech: nice pieace of SW, right? :D01:55
pedDaSkreech: and works globally...01:55
DaSkreechYeah seveas did a nice job01:55
pedDaSkreech: just the timing is sort of skewed.. usually when the night is in US, it's not in Asia, etc... but it looks like nobody's going to fix it01:56
DaSkreechped: apt-get install sun-201:57
limacmy friend has a problem, he wants to view this page: http://www.anandabazar.com/, but its showing all wierd language(an alien languge) not the languag, they call Bengali02:00
fulat2khi folks, any idea how i can resize the bottom panel in KDE4 RC2?  it looks ridiculously huge.02:00
endeemmHi all02:01
junkiefulat2k: right click the panel, select 'configure panel' then use the resize option02:01
fulat2kjunkie: tried that, but nothing comes out :)02:02
limacright click on it! and then configure panel and then resize it02:02
fulat2klimac: that was the first thing i tried :P  heheh..02:02
junkieIt works for me02:02
endeemmany one wana help me setup compiz02:02
ardchoille!compiz | endeemm02:02
ubotuendeemm: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:02
limacedit the pixles size!02:02
limacfulat2k: ^02:03
fulat2klimac: hmm... k.  lemme finish the latest update and try again...02:03
junkiehm i have an idea02:05
junkiedoes anyone know what 'lvm' means?02:05
ardchoillejunkie: Linux Virtual Machine02:05
NickPrestajunkie, or Linux Volume Management, I believe02:06
ardchoilleNickPresta: Ah, good catch02:06
NickPrestaLogical Volume Manager, actually. :)02:06
junkieHow do i mark a partition as not hidden in fdisk?02:06
geniijunkie: You mean a hidden ntfs?02:09
bazhangos x02:09
bazhanghfs+ that is02:09
junkieyea i found a thread on the ubuntuforums that said that someone had a similar problem and unhiding the hfs+ parition did the trick02:10
junkieand taking away the 'lvm' mark02:10
alirionecesito ayuda urgente02:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:12
Cyclopesi have a couple of network interfaces that i want to remove, although there is nothing about them in /etc/network/interfaces , is there anywhere else i should look for?02:13
junkieSo, i need to know how to take off the hidden flag02:14
junkieany ideas?02:14
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stuffcorpsehi, in kde4rc2 i locked my session but my password doesnt not seem to work in unlocking. does anyone have this problem?02:17
DaSkreech!info seamonkey hardy02:22
ubotuseamonkey: The Seamonkey Internet Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB02:22
junkieokay something02:23
junkiei did 'fdisk /dev/sda'02:24
junkiethen did 't'02:24
junkieand seletected the os x partition02:24
junkiebut what system would it be?02:24
junkiei don't see hfs+02:24
mschiff_is it a known bug that the startkde script in kde4rc2 packages sets VARs before the shee bang?02:24
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mjuseh i need some help02:26
maduserwith what?02:26
mjusmy kubuntu doesn`t mount my usb pendrives02:27
maduserlike removable flash drives?02:28
mjuswhen i joint my usb kde show system dialogue(kde daemom)  but when i choose open a new window for watch my usb it doesn`t open02:28
maduserwhat kind of usb is this?02:29
mjusis a marvision02:29
maduserdoes it have u3?02:29
mjusbut when i install kubuntu it worked very good, but now i dont know what happened02:29
mjussomebody knows how can i fix it problem???02:30
maduserdoes the drive have the U3 program on it?02:30
sfearswhat program are you using to view your usb drive?02:31
mjusactually i dont know02:31
maduserdoes it say u3 some where on the case?02:31
mjuswhat is u3?02:31
maduserit a progam that interfers02:32
madusermade for windows02:32
mjusmmm i dont know02:32
mjusonly show the dialogue but dont made nothing action for instance show files in a new window02:33
maduserwhy di all my google pages apear in spanish when i look up  marvision02:33
maduserwhats the model name?02:34
sfearsmjus what program are you using to view your usb drive.. trying to use to view your usb drive?02:34
mjusi dont know i only know that always shown a window with options(named kde daemon)02:35
sfearsthere's no usb icon that shows up on your desktop?02:36
mjusdont show nothing usb in the desktop02:36
kenpachicomo puedo desactivar el ipv602:36
fulat2klimac: darn, still nothing.  can't even resize teh icons for Pnale.02:36
mjusbefore show an icon but now no02:36
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:36
mjusbefore show an icon but now no02:36
sfearsat a command promt type "ls /home/(your user name)/media" and tell me what's in there02:36
limacsrry dude that's all I got!02:37
sfearsmake sure your usb device is plugged in02:37
limacsee ya!02:37
mjusyes is plugged02:37
sfearsls /home/user name/media02:37
mjusdoent`exist the directory02:38
sfearsls /media02:38
mjuscdrom  cdrom0  sda1  usb  usb0  usb1  usb2  usb3  usb4  usb5  usb6  usb702:39
sfearshow many usb devices do you have plugged in?02:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:39
sfearsuse that pastebin site to list your fstab file.. from command "cat /etc/fstab" & paste to that site02:39
madusercertain divices have programs on them these programs can interfier with thier use, what is the model name of the drive?02:40
mjusit isnt the problem maduser becoiuse i had used my usb before and had`nt problem02:41
mjus# /etc/fstab: static file system information.02:41
maduseron kubuntu?02:42
mjus# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>02:42
mjusproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdc2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:42
mjus/dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:42
sfearsno... use !pastebin02:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:42
mjus# /etc/fstab: static file system information.02:42
mjus# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>02:42
mjusproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdc2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:42
mjus/dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:42
DragnslcrStrike 202:42
DaSkreech!paste | mjus02:42
ubotumjus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:42
DaSkreechmjus: Do NOT paste here02:43
DaSkreechgo to that website and paste there. then give us the resulting URL02:43
DaSkreechmjus: Thank you ;)02:44
draikHello all02:45
draikHow do I keep the router IP and my IP address in Network Manager?02:46
fulat2kdraik: use static ip.02:46
draikEverytime I boot, I have to enter the router IP along with the configuration of my IP02:46
draikfulat2k: I do, but it keeps "forgetting" my router IP02:46
draikI don't have 'net access when I login02:46
mjussfears some idea?02:47
sfearsohh.. my bad.. let me look02:47
sfearsi'm wondering why you have so many usb devices listed in your /media folder02:48
mjusi dont know02:48
fulat2kdraik: uhh... where do u set ur router IP?02:48
sfearsopen konqueror.. naviage to /media.. right click on those usb devices & see if there's an unmount or eject option02:49
sfearsif there is unmount all of them02:49
sfearsonly the usb devices02:49
mjusno nithing02:50
mjusall are directories02:50
sfearsare any of them your usb drive02:50
refreshrateill install firefox, and itll work for a couple reboots, but then i get a bus error, i reinstall firefox and itll work again for a couple reboots. what gives?02:50
sfearsare you 100% sure you don't have any other usb devices plugged in.. printer/modem/camera?02:52
draikWhy am I losing my router's IP address after every boot?02:53
sfearsare you hard wired to it draik?02:53
sfearsor are you using wireless?02:53
draiksfears: hard wire02:53
sfearswhat do you have to do to connect?02:53
draiksfears: Enter the router IP, disable ethernet device and then enable it again to get an IP02:54
sfearsand you pay extra to your ISP to have a static IP?02:55
sfearsyou normally don't need to specify an IP.. it assigns automatically02:55
sfearsit's called a dynamic IP02:55
draiksfears: It's not static.02:55
sfearsalright.. then you can proally skip the specify IP part02:55
sfearsyou just need to tell your computer to optain automatically.. and let it know to connect.. should be able to set any of that in knetwork manager?02:56
draiksfears: Ok, but how do I make it stop forgetting my router IP?02:56
sfearsdo you have knetwork manager install02:56
sfearsit doesn't matter if it forgets.. you just need to tell it to grab one when you boot up02:56
sfearsit may always be different.. so if it forgets it's ok.. it will just obtain a new one02:57
draikHow do I make it obtain an IP when I boot?02:57
draikThat's the issue02:57
sfearsi'm looking02:57
sfearsright click on your knetwork manager icon & manual config02:58
sfearsin the network interfaces tab highlight your connection eth0 or wlan2 or whatever it happens to be.. & configure interface02:59
sfearsset tcp/ip to auto make sure dhcp is selected in the drop down & make sure activate when computer starts is checked02:59
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sfearstry that and see what happens.. should work just like that03:01
sfearsmight as well power cycle your modem & router while you reboot03:01
tomas_after installing l KDE 4 RC 2, when I try to login in the first time I get the following error "(process:13616): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or set03:02
tomas_".  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the problem?" thanks.03:02
draiksfears: Thank you. It works03:05
sfearskick ass03:05
sfearsyour welcome03:05
sfearstomas_.. ctrl+alt+f1 to terminal and type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that will ask you a couple of questions about your video, mouse & keyboard hardware.. answer the best you can.. when it asks about the video driver pick vesa and when it gets to resolution settings pick 800x600 or 1024x768.. it may be a video driver conflit.. those settings are very basic03:07
sfearsthe vesa @ 800x600 are very basic settings03:08
sfearsyou may lose some of your advanced hardware effects but at least you may be able to boot into your system03:08
sfearsadvanced video hardware effects*03:08
tomas_thanks sfears.  I'll try that.03:09
sfearsno prob03:09
jalberthey everybody03:12
jalbertI'm psyched03:12
sfearshello jalbert03:12
sfearspsyched about what?03:12
jalbertI just made a Skype call on my Kubuntu laptop03:12
sfearsnice.. worked well?03:12
jalbertworked great03:12
jalbertbetter than it ever did on Windows03:12
sfearsi've been thinking about getting some kind of voip account.. haven't quite made up my mind yet03:13
sfearswhat was better about it?03:13
jalbertthe person on the other end said I sounded good03:13
sfearssound quality?03:13
sfearsyeah.. cool03:13
jalbertno breaking up, no lag03:13
jalbertno weird modulation distortion03:13
sfearsthat's surprising.. shouldn't make must of a difference.. might have a diffferent priority set on linux03:13
jalbertI wonder if they've upgraded their vocoder software or something03:14
sfearsyou can do the same thing on windows.. ctrl+alt+delete.. and from the processes tab right click on the skype process & set to highest priority.. might clear up your windows issue03:14
BluesKajprolly written on and using linux servers03:14
jalbertwell I think the AV software I was running probably had something to do with it03:14
jalbertthis is a 2.8 GHz P4 laptop03:15
sfearscould be a million things.. glad to hear it's working good though03:15
jalberthey is there an easy way to delete an erroneous mount-point?03:15
sfearsedit your /etc/fstab file03:16
jalbertdid that already03:16
jalbertI guess I'm going to have to look it over again03:16
jalbertmust have missed something03:16
sfearsdepends what you mean by mount point.. an actual mount point is a partition03:16
jalbertwell, I have an alias in a directory that points to the wrong place03:17
sfearsthe only way to delete a partition is to edit your partition tables.. if by mount point you mean a hard drive that shows up on your desktop.. then it's proally something you misssed in your fstab file03:17
jalbertit's actually the alias I have to get rid of03:17
sfearsthat might be a little different03:18
DragnslcrThe mount location is usually just a directory, isn't it?03:18
Dragnslcri.e. /media/whatever03:18
sfearsyeah.. but some directories are actually physical partitions03:18
DragnslcrSo you should be able to just rmdir /media/whatever03:18
sfearslike your /home folder.. is a physical location on your hard drive03:19
Dragnslcr(after you've unmounted the partition, of course)03:19
DragnslcrSort of03:19
DragnslcrIt's actually the physical partition that's mounted to the location /home03:19
sfearsin the /home case it is03:19
DragnslcrYou could unmount it, delete /home, and mount the partition again at /house if you really wanted to03:20
DragnslcrStuff that looks for /home would break, of course, but that's a different issue03:20
sfearsnot sure on that one.. i think it's defined in the partition table.. so you might not be able to change the name.. i think that's basic how linux works kinda stuff.. has to have a /home folder to function03:20
lovedeatmim using gaim..is the anyway to have it sense a message that has been sent and have it react tot hat message. so for instance if someone said hey that woudl tell gaim to shutdown?03:21
DragnslcrWell, /home is a bad example because so much system stuff depends on it03:21
sfearspost your fstab file to pastebin if you want me to take a look at it.. i'll see if i see something in there03:21
DragnslcrAs far as I know, the mount location isn't stored in the partition at all03:21
sfearsas far as your alisa no it's not03:21
DragnslcrIt's fstab and friends that define what directory the partition is mounted in03:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:22
sfearsfstab makes links from partitions to folders.. so you could load /home to /house.. but /home would still be there too03:24
lovedeatmim using gaim..is the anyway to have it sense a message that has been sent and have it react to that message. so for instance if someone said hey that woudl tell gaim to shutdown?03:30
DragnslcrThere may be some plugin that can execute commands based on incoming text03:31
DragnslcrMight want to try #pidgin or asking on their message board or mailing list03:31
Voyage__using firestarter. but it auto vanishes from sys tray. why.. its not runing i guess if its not in the tray.03:36
bmk789how can i install grub from the liveCD to use my HD install again, grub gives an error 1703:44
Voyage__can any one please recomend an irc client most similer to mirc (thats used in windows) ?03:57
Tm_TVoyage__: perhaps ksirc03:58
Tm_Tor, X-chat03:58
Tm_Tor something else03:58
Voyage__Tm_T nop03:59
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines04:00
Tm_TI'm only using irssi <304:00
coteyrok, so I am trying to get firefox to play nice with my media server. It provides a browser interface and a link to media. I want to llink to open in an external player not save to disk.04:04
coteyrmozilla some time ago used ot have options that let you say open with application and then had a checkbox for just passing the link to that app04:04
coteyrthats what I need, but I can't find that option any more, anyone know of an addon or something that can make that happen04:05
coteyr(for the record konqueror does it fine but can handel the extensive Javascript on the site ver well04:05
coteyrjoin #mediatomb04:08
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deuryteThe topic for #kubuntu is: Official Kubuntu support | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0 RC2 Package & LiveCD https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KDE4-RC2 | Tutorials Day on Thursday https://wiki.kubuntu.org/K04:16
deurytesfears: right click on your knetwork manager icon & manual config04:16
deurytedraik: Ok04:16
lovedeatmany of you know any apps that are GUI and help ypu build and learn how to build oyu own plugins....and or wanna teach me how to..specificly for gaim04:23
biovorehttp://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins  <-- very bottom of the page04:25
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ubuntuis there a way of reading .exe files on linux?05:03
geniiYou mean you want to execute them like on a windows system?05:04
geniiubuntu: With the program wine some things will run, other things won't. You can always try it05:05
ubuntui got kubuntu 7.1005:05
ubuntuim new to using this05:05
geniiinstall wine from adept05:06
ubuntuso i dont really know anything05:06
geniieg: kmenu ... add and remove programs... in search panel put wine05:06
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geniiubuntu: If you don't find it there, instead open Konsole and type:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install wine05:08
geniiubuntu: Then after it installs... go to the exe you had got, right-click.Choose "open with wine windows emulator"05:09
ubuntuthanks alot05:10
ubuntuhwo you change kubuntu wallpaper?05:10
ubuntuare there themes?05:10
geniiubuntu: I'll be here a bit longer if you experience problems or have questions05:10
ubuntuleft click config?05:11
geniithemes and wallpapers are different questins05:11
geniiubuntu: To change wallpaper, on open area of screen: rightclick...choose Configure Desktop05:11
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geniileftclick=normal button rightclick=other button05:12
Dr_willis_ya got the 'right' button then ya got the 'wrong' button. :)05:14
Dr_willis_'click the right mouse button' -- Wife "How do i know which one is the RIght one! You never told me which one was the right one!"05:14
Dr_willis_So i wrote a big L and R on the mouse buttons.05:15
kaankeehi... can anyone tell me from where i can get the pljava installed for postgresql 8.2 in kubuntu05:15
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Daemon--anyone about? trying to install kubuntu on a vm and it says my CPU doesnt support long mode please use a 32bit distribution, whats long mode?05:20
Dr_willis_You are trying to install the 64bit ubuntu on a virtual machine thats set up to be a 32bit vm perhaps?05:21
Daemon--right, thats a microsoft thing then05:22
* Dr_willis_ missed where this has to do with microsoft at all...05:22
Daemon--microsoft virtual pc im using05:23
genii_Bah got booted05:24
Dr_willis_THeres also vmware and virtual box you could be using...05:24
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Dr_willis_Im still not sure they can emulate a 64bit cpu on a 32bit machine..  Never really tried it. :)05:25
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Daemon--im on a x64 bit machine buddy05:25
Dr_willis_are you running the 64bit version of windows?05:26
Daemon--yeah xp x6405:26
Dr_willis_sounds like a bug in ms's virtual pc then to me. File a Bug report. :)05:27
Dr_willis_Im guessing they are using the term Long mode for 64bit addressing - Heck they could be refering to somthing totally unlreated, ms is good about taht05:28
Daemon--wel doesnt give you the option buddy05:28
Dr_willis_You may want to check out Vmware or Virtual box then.   Im not even sure they have 64bit versions either.05:29
Dr_willis_Virtual box does.. :) i just looked.05:29
Daemon--vmware works yeah but im only playing with it, downloading the i386 version now05:30
Daemon--infact its just finnished05:30
Dr_willis_I tend to have linux run the virtual machines :) and run windows inside the vm's05:31
Daemon--i386 version is working05:32
Daemon--im just testing it before i move over to linux fully05:32
Dr_willis_I mainly use the various vm's to test out live cd iso's :) saves me burning disks05:33
* Dr_willis_ wonders how fast in theory a external USB DVD burner can burn at.. 8x? 16x faster?05:42
Dr_willis_usb2 of course. :)05:42
Law506Hi, fresh install of Kubuntu and when I try to run Adeptic Package Manager it keeps telling me something else is using it?  Even after a restart it gives me this.05:56
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:57
geniior close the update manager05:57
Dr_willis_yes. be sure all other programs using the package systems are closed05:57
Law506alright, I will do, thanks05:58
geniiDr_willis_: btw my 8x external usb burner is limited to 2x because auto speed detection over the usb doesn't work05:58
Dr_willis_This one seems to be doing 16x from what k3b is saying.. I was impressed it could do that.05:59
Dr_willis_I built a external dvd burner today from a case and spare dvd burner i had. :)06:00
Dr_willis_k3b may be lieing I guess. :)06:00
Dr_willis_3 min and its like 1/3 the way done on a 4.4 gb disk06:00
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Dr_willis_I do notice the device buffer going from 99% then down and down then down to 10% - then back up.. :)06:01
geniiDr_willis_: googling tells me due to chipset in my enclosure is why no speed detection06:11
Dr_willis_bummer. :()06:14
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kaankeeis ./configure present in kubuntu.... when i type it it is sayin no such file exists06:35
ardchoillekaankee: ./configure simply tells the system to run the configure script located in the directory you are currently in.. it's not an app06:36
kaankeek... thanks a lot... i am new to linux... thanks for helping me06:36
ardchoillekaankee: What are you attempting to configure/compile?06:37
kaankeepostgresql 8.206:37
K`zanHo folks, what is the preferred method for getting the nvidia proprietary drivers installed?06:38
Tm_T!nvidia | K`zan06:38
ubotuK`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:38
K`zanDownload and install them that way, if so I seem to be missing libc06:38
ardchoillekaankee: Are you aware that postgresql-8.2 is in the repos?06:38
K`zanTm_T: Checking now, thanks!06:38
ardchoille!info postgresql-8.206:38
ubotupostgresql-8.2: object-relational SQL database, version 8.2 server. In component main, is optional. Version 8.2.5-1.1 (gutsy), package size 3173 kB, installed size 11828 kB06:38
K`zanTm_T: Thank you very much, quite painless :-).06:42
kaankeepostgresql is available in package manager ardchoille06:43
ardchoillekaankee: yes06:43
kaankeeya its available but i am not able to get pljava there06:44
xyvuoeuahow do I make konquerer the default for files ?06:53
xyvuoeuai think this dolphin thing is pathetic and im annoyed by it06:54
xyvuoeuaBYE DOLPHIN SUCKA06:56
xyvuoeuaapt-get remove dolphin06:56
mrukushow can i open a folder as a root user06:57
mrukusthrough conqueror06:57
ardchoillemrukus: Be careful with that, one wrong move can mess up your system:  kdesudo konqueror /path/to/desired/folder06:58
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waltercool_Eeeuh... someone know why when i plug in the power cable to my laptop, kmail is opened??07:01
NevilleCoolness? =P07:03
mrukusno through the terminal though07:04
mrukusi want to paste a module to a file07:05
mrukusand it says access denied07:05
mrukusisn't there a way to open a folder as a root without using the terminal07:05
mrukusoh wait i see07:05
Lynourewaltercool_Eee: no idea, sorry.07:08
mrukusboy does this stuff get frustrating07:08
mrukusi just got the system right when somthing happened and had to do a fresh install07:09
mrukusgetting the wireless to work was a shore last time and is even more so this time07:09
mrukusi always get error msgs and nothign ever turns out as planned07:09
Kveldulfwould someone like to help me with some stupid newbie probs?07:11
waltercool_EeeLynoure: oh, ty :)07:11
mrukuswhat does this error mean when i go to make a file07:13
mrukusmake: Nothing to be done for `all'.07:13
mrukusit worked like a couple of hours ago when i tried to make it07:13
nareshovmake sure you're in the right directory07:13
nareshovdo you see a Makefile in the working dir ?07:13
Kveldulfja ok i didnt really suppose so07:14
acee12345i added a partition through windows and it killed gnome error 17 any ideas n a fix . i have a live cd07:14
nareshovmrukus: you probably need to run `make clean` first then07:14
nareshovacee12345: did it touch any of the linux partitions?07:14
acee12345i dont think so07:14
mrukuswhat did that do?07:15
nareshovmrukus: read the Makefile07:15
Kveldulflaterb then, thanks07:16
acee12345 nareshov: i dont thinkso07:16
acee12345 nareshov: ia there an easy way to reconfigure grub07:18
acee12345 nareshov: imeant to say grub not gnome07:18
nareshovusing a livecd07:18
acee12345 nareshov: im new to linux could you guide me a bit07:19
acee12345 nareshov: imbooting off the live cd now07:20
nareshovacee12345: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/07:20
acee12345 nareshov: thank you07:21
acee12345how to i figure out wich partition to use?07:22
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nareshovfdisk -l07:22
acee12345do the oartitions effect my input?07:25
acee12345if so my system is dual boot do i just enter the second partition aswell in that case?07:27
milestonehi all07:27
milestonea question to the kde4-rc2 pkgs07:27
milestoneit says on the wiki that the packages will be availably on gutsy-backports07:27
milestonethe backports packages will also install under /usr/lib/kde4?07:28
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sigma_kubuntuacee12345: what do u mean?07:28
Tm_Tmilestone: yes07:28
milestoneTm_T: and they are also named kde4-...?07:28
Tm_Tmilestone: yes07:29
Tm_Tmilestone: pretty much same packages07:29
acee12345i dont know what to input the fdisk -l didnt show me a list of partitions or drives07:30
sigma_kubuntuhow is kontact in kde4? last time i checked all the icons were messed up07:30
sigma_kubuntuacee12345: use qparted07:31
acee12345command not found07:32
nareshovI've heard that kopete will finally support HTTP proxy in KDE 4.107:34
sigma_kubuntuits a program u must install07:34
milestoneTm_T: how stable is kde4?07:34
nareshovmilestone: it's rc2 right now and it most apps don't start on my amd64 installation07:34
milestoneright now i have installed kde4-rc1 and set re-set the kde home directory07:34
Tm_Tmilestone: depends, in my use it doesn't crash, is that stable? I don't know07:34
milestonewell it looks great07:35
Tm_Tbut I'm not "end-user" so...07:35
acee12345 sigma_kubuntu: qparted doesnt activate through console07:35
milestonei am a gnome user and anxious to really use it07:35
nareshovsudo qparted07:35
nareshovmilestone: me too :P07:35
milestonebecause i really think that you can be more productive with kde but IMHO gnome still "looks" nicer07:35
acee12345 sigma_kubuntu: an all root([hd],[part]) i try get a "unrecognised command responce07:35
acee12345reinstall kubuntu?07:36
milestonecompared to kde 3.5.807:36
nareshovacee12345: tell me the partition number corresponding to type 83 in `fdisk -l`07:36
NevilleI'm off to play with my first ever SATA hard disk07:37
NevilleWish me luck =]07:37
emilsedghmilestone: well, kde default settings suck, but if you customize it, it will look much better07:37
acee12345nareshov: "sudo" was needed to display07:37
acee12345nareshov: type "83" where?07:38
nareshovmilestone: run kersonalizer and choose OSX and you're in for a surprise :D07:38
Tm_Tmilestone: hmm, look, interesting, have you seen something like this? http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png07:38
nareshovacee12345: Id07:38
Tm_Tnareshov: nownow, no need to cursing07:38
acee12345nareshov: under id 83 is /dev/sda707:38
nareshovTm_T: :D07:38
milestoneemilsedgh: persuade me07:38
nareshovacee12345: in the grub> prompt07:39
nareshovtype root (hd0,6)07:39
Tm_Tmilestone: btw feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic07:39
nareshovand then 'setup (hd0)'07:39
nareshovand 'quit'07:39
waltercool_Eeeexist a method to trace what open me an app??07:40
milestoneTm_T: ahh right ;)07:40
acee12345nareshov: ok will this enable windows aswell?07:40
apparle-do I need an antivirus? I have dualboot Windows and a good antivirus on wndows. Also I donot have internet connection07:40
apparlewaltercool_Eee: what??07:40
nareshovacee12345: not unless you add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst07:41
acee12345nareshov: how do i do that07:41
sub[t]rnlapparle: You wont need an anti virus for linux07:41
nareshovacee12345: do that fdisk -l thing again and look for the partition number corresponding to your windows installation07:41
waltercool_Eeeapparle: when i plug the power cable, kmail is opened, i want know what opens kmail and how disable it07:42
emilsedghmilestone: well, i cant, you should get it yourself07:42
acee12345nareshov: dev/sda1 so "root (hd0,1)"?07:42
apparlenareshov: I think somehting like update-grub which will do everything07:42
nareshovno, (hd0,0)07:42
nareshovapparle: not sure07:42
waltercool_Eeeapparle: some idea?07:42
nareshovacee12345: you need an entry like:07:43
nareshovin /boot/grub/menu.lst07:43
nareshovtitle        Windows something07:43
nareshovroot        (hd0,0)07:43
nareshovchainloader +107:43
apparlewaltercool_Eee: do you shutdown the computer with Kmail running07:44
waltercool_Eeeapparle: im in a laptop xD07:45
milestoneemilsedgh: :)07:45
acee12345nareshov: ok working great again thank you07:45
waltercool_Eeeapparle: but nvm, i have fixed now that (i have remove a lot of packages and reinstall... and works... :P)07:45
sigmais it illegal to use the kubuntu logo on my website?07:46
apparlewhen I run command lne at grub menu what is the command to boot linux07:47
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nareshovapparle: you got the command line via "c" ?07:48
apparlenareshov: ya07:48
nareshovhmm, something like "root (hd0,<TAB> should show you something07:49
apparlesigma: maybe. See the t&c07:49
nareshovchoose the right one (number) and complete it - say, (hd0,2)07:49
nareshovand then do "kernel /boot/<TAB>" - select the right one07:50
nareshovand then the same thing with "initrd /boot/<TAB>"07:50
nareshovand boot07:50
apparlenareshov: what do you mean by "and boot"07:51
nareshovlike, press "b" ?07:51
apparlenareshov: ok thanks07:52
mrukusim sooo close07:52
mrukusno i get this error07:52
mrukusmrukus@mrukus-laptop:~/ar5007eg-32-0.2/ar5007eg$ sudo ndiswrapper _i net5211.inf07:53
mrukussudo: ndiswrapper: command not found07:53
nareshovis it installed?07:53
mrukusit says its not07:53
mrukusand then i run the command it says to install it07:53
mrukusthen it says the newest version of ndiswrapper-common is already installed07:53
apparleanybody here uses Kdevelop07:54
mrukusif i just type ndiswrapper into the terminal, it says07:54
mrukusThe program 'ndiswrapper' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:07:54
mrukussudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common07:54
mrukusbash: ndiswrapper: command not found07:54
mrukusso i run that line07:54
apparleanybody uses kdevelop??07:54
nareshovlooks like a bug :}07:55
mrukusndiswrapper-common is already the newest version.07:55
mrukus0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 148 not upgraded.07:55
mrukushow do i fix it?07:55
nareshov(not upgrading?)07:55
mrukushow do i find an older version07:55
apparlemrukus: IMHO do one thing remove it from adept and then install it07:56
apparlehow to fix this error.I get it while configuring source codes "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:57
mrukushow do i remove it from the system?07:57
mrukuswill synaptic do that for me?07:57
nareshovapparle: you probably need xserver-xorg-dev installed07:58
nareshovor xorg-dev07:58
apparlenareshov: I have it installed07:58
apparlenareshov: tell mrukus the command I am new to CLI07:59
sub[t]rnlmrukus: sudo apt-get remove (sudo apt-get --purge remove to remove configuration files as well)07:59
nareshovapparle: what are you trying to do? why do you need the X libs ?08:00
apparlehow to fix this error.I get it while configuring source codes "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"08:00
apparlenareshov: Iam trying to develop a gui using Kdevelop designer and get this error08:04
emilsedghapparle: you should install xorg dev package08:05
emilsedghapparle: i think thats xlibs-dev or something like this08:05
nareshovxorg-dev should install the whole thing, right?08:05
apparleemilsedgh: tell me the complete name. xlibs-dev does not exist for gutsy08:05
nareshovapparle: try xorg-dev, I think you only have xserver-xorg-dev08:06
apparlebye everyone08:06
emilsedghapparle: thats xorg-dev08:06
TheFishywhat is the the "Lost & Found" start up menu for?08:06
apparlethanks everyone08:06
emilsedghapparle: also you need kde headers08:06
Assidanyone played with kde4 ?08:06
nareshovTheFishy: lost & found apps :D08:06
emilsedghAssid: sure08:06
TheFishyexplain how an APP is lost08:06
nareshovthose which don't have a proper XDG menu entry, for example?08:07
Assidemilsedgh: hows it ?08:07
user___how far is kde4 ? i have been without net for a while08:07
emilsedghAssid: for a Major release, good.08:07
nareshovuser__ rc2 came out a couple of days ago08:07
Assiduser___: rc208:07
user___cool so it will be finale when i get back to the civiliced world :)08:08
Assidemilsedgh: i actually got ubuntu installed instaled of kubuntu on my lappy08:08
Assidany difference if i just apt-get install it ?08:08
nareshovwhich unciviliced part of the world are you in ? :D08:08
nareshovAssid: you want to remove gnome and install jde ?08:09
emilsedghAssid: install what? kde4? yes, but for testing use apt-get08:09
emilsedghAssid: to install kubuntu back, just install kubuntu-desktop08:09
Assidnareshov: nah, i can use gdm to choose what to go into08:09
user___nareshov: traveling laos at the moment by bike ...08:10
nareshovuser___: woah08:10
Assidsomehow my ati +compiz behaves better under ubuntu08:10
PishtJust a question, I have an older kubuntu on disk, does it update to what is currently released or do I need to DL the new version from the site and burn to disk again?08:10
nareshovPisht: how old?08:10
PishtI'm not sure, older than the current version08:10
PishtI'll have to check, i'm just setting up the PC again which has it on.08:11
Pishti need to find a 2nd keyboard or this will get ugly08:11
Pishtugh i don't think i have one08:11
ardchoillePisht: Open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a | grep -i release08:11
Pishtyep yep 1 sec08:11
Assidi think i will dl the livecd and play with that first08:12
Assidbrb.. changing networks08:13
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Assidso anwyays.. will play with kde408:16
emilsedghAssid: have fun!08:16
Assidi really wanna move my windows machine away onto linux08:16
Assidstupid microsoft has issues reading ram over 1gb i think08:16
sigmai need to find sum1 to steal the new kde4 cd from08:17
atwowhat was that command?08:17
atwo< Pisht08:18
ardchoilleatwo: Open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a | grep -i release08:18
atwoterminal = run command?08:18
nareshovatwo: in a terminal08:18
atwoyep 1 sec08:18
atwolol isn that the latest08:19
ardchoilleatwo: Ok, upgrading isn't going to be hard for you08:19
ardchoille!upgrade | atwo08:19
ubotuatwo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:19
atwoiḿ going to reinstall linux on here08:19
atwobecause i fucked x last time trying to make it work on widescreen08:19
ardchoilleatwo: 7.04 is Feisty08:19
atwobut this is a 19inch widescreen08:19
atwoand it looks all shitty08:19
atwoi didn want it 19"widescreen08:20
ardchoille!language | atwo08:20
ubotuatwo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.08:20
atwothe  ad didn say it08:20
nareshovgutsy works fine on a 19" WS08:20
atwoi thought it wasn08:20
atwoi am just going to reinstall the OS08:20
atwothis version is ok to upgrade from then?08:20
atwook cool08:20
atwoiĺl jump to the other pc08:20
atwowhile in reinstall08:20
ardchoilleatwo: Are you going to upgrade or reinstall?08:20
atwoafter a format08:20
ardchoilleThen don't worry about upgrading08:21
atwoim giong to reinstall from the old disc though08:21
atwoor can i format and install frmo a downloaded one?08:21
ardchoilleatwo: ah, then upgrade? ok08:21
atwothanks for your help atm08:21
ardchoilleatwo: You can download the current release and install from that, it will save you a lot of work08:21
ardchoilleSince you're going to reinstall anyway08:22
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ardchoillePisht: You can download the current release and install from that, it will save you a lot of time and work since you're going to reinstall anyway08:23
atwo1how big is the DL?08:23
ardchoilleless than 700Mb, fits on a cd08:24
atwo1ok i can dl on the linux box and format + install from the downloaded file?08:24
ardchoilleatwo: I think it's quicker if you use a torrent08:24
atwo1im on pretty quick net08:24
atwo1wont take long08:24
ardchoilleatwo: download, burn to cd, boot from the cd, install08:25
Daisuke_Idouh, you need to burn the cd first08:25
atwo1ok i'll dl from here then luls08:25
ardchoilleatwo: back up any personal files first so you don't lose them08:25
atwo1thers not much on the other pc08:25
atwo1i just ruined x and want to start fresh with the new version08:25
atwo1well i didnt ruin it08:25
atwo1but im being very anal08:26
atwo1and want a clean install08:26
ardchoilleThat'll do it08:26
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Jay-Oh-Enhow do i get rid of gnome08:26
ardchoilleatwo: Oh, and come back here for help if needed, this is one of the best support avenues for kubuntu :)08:26
se7enso i am back in the lao jungle cu and by the way pendirvelinux is cool ...08:27
atwo1yes i know08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:27
atwo1i had heaps of help here the first time08:27
Jay-Oh-Enand how do i get kde window manager back08:27
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »08:27
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: ^^08:27
atwo1which one do i get08:27
ardchoilleatwo: If you have a regular pc, get the kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso08:28
ardchoilleatwo: and get the MD5SUMS file and checksum the iso before burning08:29
atwo1say wut08:29
Jay-Oh-EnE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:29
Jay-Oh-EnE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:29
Jay-Oh-Enit keeps saying that08:29
ardchoilleatwo: Grab the MD5SUMS and check the iso's md5sum against the MD5SUMS list before burning, will save you from making a coaster in case the download was corrupted08:30
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: You got any other package managers open/running?08:30
atwo1thought that's what you meant08:30
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Did adept crash?08:30
Jay-Oh-Eni did aptitude08:31
Jay-Oh-Enin terminal08:31
ardchoille!adeptfix | Jay-Oh-En08:31
ubotuJay-Oh-En: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:31
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: is that how i fix it?08:32
atwo1i wish there was a 24 hour keyboard store08:34
nuxihi all. can anyone tell me how i can install perl Net::Pcap module without using CPAN ?08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cpan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:38
atwo1im all out08:38
nuxiwithout CPAN08:38
ardchoille!flash | nareshov08:41
ubotunareshov: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:41
nuxii tryed installing the Pcap.pm file manualy in the perl lib dir.. but that dident work.. i always get an error about Net:Pcap not found in @INC08:41
nuxiso anyone got an idea how i can get it installed ?08:42
atwo1just burning 7.10 now08:43
LocksmQuestion: so im dling kubuntu just for testing purpuses, and ive noticed that there is a livecd and a livedvd, would i be better off chosing the livedvd for the correct view on kubuntu ?08:43
elisianonuxi: how about "apt-get install libnet-pcap-perl" ?08:43
atwo1good Q08:43
nuxiwell.. use the dvd if you want all the pak's .. i think the cd is a mini version and is missing alot to tools and stuff.08:44
LocksmI mean, clearly there must be some difference since they got both a dvd, and a cd..08:44
nuxielisiano nothing is showing up08:44
ardchoillenuxi: The dvd is actually only a compilation of the desktop, server and alternate cd's08:45
Locksmthe dvd, is that also a live ?08:45
elisianoare you on gutsy nuxi ?08:46
nuxinop. feisty08:46
ardchoilleLocksm: The dvd boots you into a menu that gives you options to boot into the desktop, server or alternate cd environments08:46
ubuntuhey can someone help me with a boot problem?08:46
ubuntui get grub error 2208:46
Locksmbut the contenst on the desktop edition is the same as with the cd ?08:46
atwo1Locksm: the cd will include all versions08:47
atwo1..which i assume it is one of08:47
atwo1sorry the DVD*08:47
ardchoilleLocksm: The desktop cd is a livecd environment with an option to install to hard disk, the alternate and server cd's are text-based installers, not livecd environemnts08:47
nuxielisiano. what kind of repo is that file in?  main universe or restricted ?08:47
elisianoi don't have a feisty around to see if the package is in the repositories, but u could still try with cpan08:47
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elisianoit's in main08:47
elisianoin gutsy08:48
nuxiok.. its not in feisty..08:48
ardchoilleelisiano: You can check that here in the channel:08:48
Locksmok, so basicly if i use the livecd for install, i would see the same options as selecting the dvd desktop install ?08:48
ardchoille!info kid308:48
ubotukid3: KDE MP3 ID3 tag editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1092 kB08:48
nuxiso i guess i have to dl it from somewere then08:48
ardchoilleLocksm: yes08:48
Locksmthen there is no need for the dvd download :D thx! then i get to test kubuntu now :D08:48
ubuntucan someone help me with a boot problem? :D08:49
elisiano!info libnet-pcap-perl08:49
ubotulibnet-pcap-perl: Pcap interface for perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-3 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB08:49
ardchoilleelisiano: Are you on fiesty?08:49
elisianothanks ardchoille08:50
elisianono I'm in gutsy08:50
Saagarhi am facing some probs in upgrading my RAM to 1GB.Currently am using 512MB .Can anybody help me?Everything else works but certain sites are not accessible.08:50
elisianonuxi (who needs the package) is on feisty08:50
ardchoille!info libnet-pcap-perl feisty08:50
bdgrauewhere does plasma write, what widget are enabled? one pager is lost behind the taskbar :(08:50
ubotulibnet-pcap-perl: Pcap interface for perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-3 (feisty), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB08:50
elisianoso he just needs to add universe to repos?08:50
elisianogot it nuxi?08:51
ardchoilleSaagar: I may be wrong, but I don't think that is a ram issue08:51
ubuntucan someone tell me why im getting grub error 22? ive got Xp/kubuntu dual boot08:51
Daisuke_Idobdgraue: "zoom out"08:51
Saagarthen wht else it could be ardchoille? other distro works fine in the same machine08:51
* nareshov is away: Gone away for now.08:52
ardchoilleSaagar: It sounds like a IPV6 issue08:52
bdgraueDaisuke_Ido: how to do that?08:52
ardchoilleubuntu: Tried this?  http://www.google.com/search?q=%22grub+error+22%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-808:52
Daisuke_Idobdgraue: in the upper right where the widget controls are, there's a "zoom out" button08:52
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:53
Saagarcan u detail me on that ardchoille?08:53
ardchoilleSaagar: ^^08:53
ubuntuyeh i have, they keep saying to run XP's fixmbr08:53
ardchoilleSaagar: I disabled ipv6 and lots of web issues went away08:53
ubuntubut i actually want grub loader to work, not xp's loader08:53
ardchoilleubuntu: Did you install kubuntu and then windows after that?08:53
bdgraueDaisuke_Ido: thank a lot, you made my day :)08:53
ubuntuwindows then kubuntu08:53
Saagarwin then kubuntu08:54
ardchoille!grub | ubuntu08:54
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:54
ubuntuboth on completely different harddrives if that makes a difference08:54
Daisuke_Idobdgraue: you're welcome :)08:54
ubuntuim running the kubuntu livecd now, isn't there a way to reinstall grub properly? :)08:56
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:56
ardchoilleubuntu: Those links have howto's08:56
Tm_Tardchoille: thanks :)08:56
atwo1ardchoille: wut a legend :>08:57
atwo1snapping out resolutions like a gattling gun08:57
ubuntuah thanks =D08:57
Jay-Oh-Enwhere is trash located like in its url /trash/08:59
Jay-Oh-Enor trash/:08:59
emilsedghJay-Oh-En: i think ~/.trash or something like this09:00
Jay-Oh-Enemilsedgh: ill try09:01
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emilsedghJay-Oh-En: ~/.local/share/Trash09:01
emilsedghJay-Oh-En: thats it09:01
Jay-Oh-Enill try that09:02
atwo1how do i change resolution09:04
atwo1where's that option09:04
atwo1i mean09:04
atwo1program thingy09:04
atwo1getting into swing again09:04
atwo1screen is half off the screen09:04
icewater1angrub-md5-crypt fails with "grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed." on several boxes. is that a bug?09:05
icewater1anmeaning does it work for anyone else09:05
Daemon--trying to install kubuntu from a vm but everytime it reboots the login screen is messed up like the video card drivers dont work. Any idea's ?09:12
ubuntu!grub | ubuntu09:12
ubuntueh :/09:12
sub[t]rnlDaemon--: have you tried installing with safe graphics mode?09:12
Daemon--no buddy, is that an option at the beginning?09:13
sub[t]rnloff the installation cd, yeah09:13
Daemon--yeah thanks09:13
atwo1what's a vm09:14
atwo1cause mine looks all shitted too09:14
atwo1but it's installing anyway09:14
Daemon--virtual machine09:14
atwo1oh im installin from disc09:14
Daemon--me too09:14
atwo1its mong graphical and the screen is half off the monitor09:14
Daemon--through a virtual machine09:14
Daemon--sub[t]rnl - ive got the inital mentu here but cant see an option for same graphics mode?09:14
sub[t]rnlsafe graphics mode, hrm, what options do you see09:15
Daemon--install in text mode, oem install (for manufacturers), install a command-line system, check cd for defects, rescue a broken system, memory test, boot from first hard disk and some F key options09:16
sub[t]rnlah, are you using the KDE4 RC2 live cd?09:17
Daemon--errm im using this one.... kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  697.5M 16-Oct-200709:18
ardchoilleDaemon--: That is a text-based install cd, no live environment there09:19
sub[t]rnlic, you could go through the installation via text mode09:19
Daemon--sub[t]rnl - i do, the inistal install works, its when it reboots and tries to go into kubuntu for the first time. Looks like the login screen09:19
Daemon--looks all messed up09:20
Daemon--not sure if its something to do with the screen resolutions it asks me before i reboot. Not sure what i should be selecting because its a vm and not the propper size screen09:20
sub[t]rnljust the kdm login?, or the entire xwindows is messed up09:20
Daemon--well i cant get past the login because i cant see what im doing09:21
Daemon--any idea bud?09:23
sub[t]rnlnot sure :/09:23
Daemon--do u understand what i mean? want me to take a screen shot?09:24
elisianou should analyze xorg.conf and check /var/log/Xorg.o.log09:24
elisianoprobably it's a viewport problem09:24
Daemon--how do i get to cli?09:24
elisianothe screen resolution is bigger than the real "window"09:25
elisianoDaemon--: CTRL + ALT + F209:25
Daemon--the window of the vm changes but its still withing the size of my personal desktop resolution09:26
atwo1yeah i just finished installnig and my desktop if halfway off the screen09:27
ardchoilleatwo1: Do you have an nvidia or ati video card in that box?09:27
Daemon--elisiano - what am i looking for in xorg.conf ?09:28
ardchoilleatwo1: Thought so. I had that same problem but it went away after I nstalled the nvidia drivers09:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about replacement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:28
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant09:28
atwo1geforce 550009:28
ardchoille!nvidia | atwo109:29
ubotuatwo1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
Daemon--atwo1 = its not there09:29
elisianoDaemon--: are you using vmware?09:29
backuppwhat's a php editor in kubuntu?09:30
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)09:30
Daemon--no buddy, ms virtual pc09:30
bdgrauebackupp: kate :)09:30
ardchoillebackupp: Most people just use a good text editor, like kate09:30
elisianonever tried, but I guess there's a way to go full screen right?09:30
Daemon--yes im in it09:31
elisianoand still u don't see a login prompt?09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:31
atwo1how do i setup the internet09:31
ardchoillebackupp: Anything we can help with?09:31
atwo1it's on a router09:32
Jay-Oh-Enwhats a good video editing program09:32
Daemon--elisiano - yeah im in the login prompt09:32
Daemon--for the cli not for the gui09:32
atwo1do i have to put in a ip address in the default gateway for the routes tab09:32
bdgraueJay-Oh-En: avidemux09:32
elisianook login then and check the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:32
Jay-Oh-Enbdgraue: is that the name of the package?09:33
backuppardchoille: yeah how about any replacement for dreamweaver or frontpage for web designing?09:33
bdgraueJay-Oh-En: yes i think so09:33
Jay-Oh-Enthanks then :]09:33
Jay-Oh-Endo you know where i can get some nice hi def backgrounds?09:33
ardchoillebackupp: Quanta ?09:33
backuppok i try to install09:35
nareshovJay-Oh-En: desktop backgrounds?09:35
Daemon--elisiano - under the screen section, subsection "Display", the modes are 1680x1050 - 1024x768 and 800x60009:35
Daemon--these are what i selected in the setup09:35
Daemon--should i remove them and try without?09:35
Jay-Oh-Ennareshov: yes09:35
atwo1what do i put as default gateway09:36
nareshovhttp://del.icio.us/nareshov/wallpaper - the second link in there09:36
atwo1i can't get the net to work through the router09:37
nareshovatwo1: what comp are you currently on?09:37
llutzatwo1: your routers ip09:37
atwo1im trying to config the pc with 7.10 on09:37
nareshovatwo1: Start -> Run -> cmd09:38
nareshovtype ipconfig09:38
llutz^^ thats windows09:38
nareshovpress enter, note down the stuff and use it on the linux comp - of course with its own ip09:38
Jay-Oh-Ennareshov: like hi def 1280x102409:39
atwo1its not connecting to the net09:41
atwo1i remembe last time i had to add my ISP's nameserver address somewhere09:41
atwo1where would that go09:41
nareshovin /etc/resolv.conf09:41
atwo1ok i'm really new to this09:41
atwo1how do i get thar09:41
nareshovAlt+F2 -> konsole (hit enter) -> # sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf09:42
nareshovand add lines like: nameserver <ip.1>09:42
nareshovnameserver <ip.2>09:42
atwo1# sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf09:42
atwo1wrong keyboard09:43
atwo1said cant be foudn09:43
nareshovwell, create one09:43
nareshov /etc/resolv.conf09:43
atwo1open with09:44
atwo1where the fk is kate09:44
nareshovkate, nano, vim, emacs, gedit09:44
nareshovuse nano09:44
atwo1what do i type09:45
atwo1to make it open in something09:45
atwo1or whatever09:45
Jay-Oh-Enwhere can i get a hi def  1280x1024 background09:45
nareshovdid a konsole show up?09:45
elisianoDaemon--: try removing the first09:45
nareshovtype 'sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf' in there09:45
atwo1i alt f2's09:45
nareshovtype konsole there09:45
elisianoand leave lower resolutions09:45
nareshovhit enter09:45
atwo1nothing happened09:46
nareshovJay-Oh-En: did you check all those 9 pages09:46
nareshovatwo1: are you running KDE or GNOME ?09:46
Daemon--elisiano - im actually re-installing now, almost to the part where it asks me for my prefered screen resolutions, should i leave that blank? because it says it will always try for the highest possible if their all blank09:46
atwo1just installed09:46
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nareshovclick on the K-menu > System > Konsole09:46
elisianodon't leave it blank, specify a lower resolution09:47
elisianou have a wide screen right?09:47
Daemon--what do you recommend? my windows resolution is 1680x1050 x2 (dual monitor)09:47
nareshovatwo1: do you see a konsole?09:48
atwo1nareshov: what now09:48
atwo1im in there09:48
Jay-Oh-Ennareshov: i dont like all of those09:48
atwo1what now09:48
elisianoalso 1024x768 would be fine09:48
Daemon--elisiano - the ms virtual pc applications window keeps changing to whatever size is needed by the application running09:48
Daemon--ok i'll select that09:48
nareshovtype 'sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf'09:48
atwo1in the '09:49
atwo1or without09:49
nareshovwithout '09:49
elisianoit's a 4:3 windows but I don't think that's a problem for u09:49
Daemon--elisiano - just 1024x768? no other?09:49
atwo1now its all weird looking09:49
atwo1oh wait im in that file09:49
atwo1what do i write09:49
nareshovatwo1: is there anything in there?09:49
atwo1no it's empty09:49
elisianoyes, no other, at least you know that it must choose only that09:49
nareshovhmm, type: nameserver ip-of-your-nameserver09:49
Daemon--elisiano - ok its installing the software now09:50
atwo1save now?09:50
atwo1and try to connect to net?09:50
Daemon--fingers crossed :)09:50
atwo1how do i save it09:50
nareshovand Ctrl+X09:50
elisianoDaemon--: btw, I don't think a reinstall was necessary but I undestand you :)09:50
atwo1now how do i make the net connect09:50
atwo1im in some KDE control module09:51
atwo1for the network09:51
Daemon--elisiano - yea maybe not but only takes 10 mins hehe, its a quick system09:51
Daemon--elisiano - pobably gonna end back up where i was though lol09:51
nareshovI just started using kubuntu a day ago :P09:51
nareshovatwo1: what does /sbin/ifconfig eth0 say on konsole09:51
elisianoDaemon--: and it's wasted running such os lol09:51
Daemon--you mean kubuntu or windows?09:51
elisianowindows of course09:52
Daemon--hey if i can get this working im switching, thats the whole point of this?09:52
atwo1a whole heap of shit09:52
nareshovdo you see your ip there?09:52
Daemon--just hope it supports my hardware09:52
atwo1i see the IP i assigned to the computer yes09:52
Daemon--quadcore q6850 cpu09:52
nareshovatwo1: do you see the default route ip too?09:53
elisianoDaemon--: running a virtual machine is not the way to test if it supports your hw09:53
nareshovoh wait09:53
nareshovnot there09:53
nareshovin "route -n"09:53
atwo1i see one that is almost it09:53
elisianobecause, as it implies, it virtualizes hardware09:53
elisianounsell it parallelizes it like xen (which i doubt)09:53
Daemon--elisiano - ahh good point, but still rather see if i like it before i make the big move09:53
atwo1there's one there but last digit is wrong09:53
nareshovlet me just figure out what kcontrol module handles the network settings >_>09:53
atwo1well i went into that thing ont he bottom right09:54
atwo1and went into manual09:54
atwo1and changed shit on eth009:54
elisianoDaemon--: I agree, but still a dual boot would be better... anyway, first things firt, maybe after virtualizing it you'll pass to a dual boot system09:54
Daemon--wow, thats possible?09:54
nareshovatwo1: the "Routes" tab09:54
atwo1whats that shortcut to quickly restart?09:54
nareshovrestart the comp?09:54
atwo1never mind09:55
nareshovCtrl+Alt+Del worked I think09:55
atwo1i put the router IP in the default gateway09:55
Daemon--ok the install is finnished, im ready to reboot, fingers crossed09:55
atwo1good luck09:55
roamThe power manager shows an extra CPU with kernel 2.6.24rc5.09:55
atwo1do i have to manually edit the network interface09:56
atwo1or leave on auto09:56
Daemon--i love the loading screen09:56
nareshovatwo1: DHCP -> auto09:56
nareshovstatic ip -> manual09:56
Linux_Galoreanyone know how to get kmail to stop dropping back into text mode when editing html09:56
Daemon--elisiano - its switched to some silly widescreen resolution and messed up again09:57
nareshovLinux_Galore: it should be possible to configure that, just look around in the settings/preferences09:57
elisianocan u tell your VM not to adjust its screen size?09:57
atwo1now how do i make it connect to the net09:57
atwo1anyone tell me what the keyboard shortcut to reset x is09:57
atwo1i need to get the net working09:58
Linux_Galorenareshov: Ive looked though everything, nothing09:58
atwo1nareshov: it changes the default gateway to when i leave the network interface on auto09:59
atwo1i can't get it to connect argggh09:59
Daemon--elisiano - yeah i have 3 options, allow any screen resolution (this is what was previously set), use standard screen resolutions and use guest operating system screen resolution09:59
nareshovatwo1: do you use DHCP?10:00
atwo1what is it10:00
elisianotry using standard10:00
elisianoand select 1024x76810:00
nareshovdo you know what ip that comp is supposed to have?10:00
Daemon--elisiano - i cant select, just have those 3 options10:00
atwo1i know the range and i just pick any 2 last digits10:01
elisianok try that10:01
nareshovthat means you're manually setting it10:01
nareshovso don't do auto10:01
nareshovdo manual and redo the whole thing10:01
nareshovip, route, nameservers10:01
Daemon--that didnt work10:01
atwo1ok i did10:02
atwo1how do i make it try to connect10:02
nareshovit should be working10:02
nareshovif not then reboot10:02
atwo1i can't click 'switch to online mode'10:02
Daemon--elisiano - trying to make it use the guest os res now10:02
Daemon--nope :(10:03
nareshovare you in the administrator mode?10:03
atwo1LOL don't know10:04
atwo1its saving the shit tho10:04
Linux_Galoresigh, kmail must be the dumbest heap of crap Ive ever used, no html editing support10:04
llutzhtml-emails are crap10:05
Daemon--elisiano - this is whats happening >> http://www.daveaskew.com/pics/kubuntu.jpg10:05
atwo1yes im in aadmin mode10:05
atwo1and its not connecting10:05
Linux_Galorellutz: only if your a geek, in marketing all emails are in html10:05
atwo1i still can't switch to online mode10:05
atwo1i did reboot10:05
nareshovuse Evolution10:05
Linux_Galorenareshov: evolution is a heap of crap10:06
nareshovnot anymore10:06
llutzLinux_Galore: seems you are in the wrong business10:06
nareshovtry the latest one10:06
atwo1the light on my router10:06
atwo1is lit up10:06
nareshovit's - awesome, even I was surprised10:06
atwo1the router shows the network is connected this piece of shit comp wont connect but10:06
Linux_Galorenareshov: so basically KDE after what 8 years has no HTML email client but gnome has 4 I know of10:06
Linux_Galoreyeah I can see the enterprise level users really gunning for kde10:07
Daemon--elisiano - it says its switching to 1600x80010:07
elisianowhich is not good10:08
Daemon--thats kubuntu doing that though, not my vm10:08
atwo1how do i get the net to connect X<10:08
elisianoafter u put standard resolution on VM, did u try restarting KDM?10:08
elisianoor even better, kubuntu?10:08
Daemon--yes this is what happens from a full system reboot10:08
Daemon--i reboot the system to get into kde for the first time after installing kubuntu and thats what comes up10:09
atwo1can someone help me config this fresh 7.10 install to connect to the net :<10:09
Daemon--i cant do anything10:09
Daemon--elisiano - im guessing it doesnt like my video card?10:10
Voyage__any suggestions for a file manager instead of dolphin or konqureor.   (may be same like windows file manager) ?10:11
atwo1wjhat the FUICk10:11
atwo1is it resolv or resolve10:11
Linux_GaloreIm starting ti understand why KDE hasnt got of the ground in the enterprise space, its so simple, all the enterprise grade apps are GTK based10:11
atwo1when i changed that nameserver it didnt even fkn save10:11
llutz!ot | Linux_Galore10:12
ubotuLinux_Galore: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:12
atwo1is it resolv.conf or resolve.conf10:12
llutz resolv.conf10:12
Linux_Galorellutz: I asked a question, still waiting for a sane kde answer10:12
elisianoDaemon--: it's not the videocard, I think there's something wrong in how the VM host tells the resolution to the VM guest10:12
llutzLinux_Galore: that's not a kubuntu related thing, ask in #kde10:13
Daemon--elisiano - ok so i should try another VM ?10:13
atwo1its fixed10:13
Linux_Galorellutz: #kde channel is locked especially if you ask questions like, are there any enterprise grade email client for kde, they go into melt down and boot you out10:14
atwo1i go to normal res the native res and the screen goes halfway off the monitor10:14
Linux_Galoreatwo1: reset the monitor, the monitor sets itself defined in the original vga screen10:14
llutzLinux_Galore: so it's not wanted then. sit down and write a client, it's opensource10:15
Assidthat livecd is majorylu messed up10:15
atwo1reset it defined in what10:15
atwo1every res makes the fonts etc. look like crap10:15
Linux_Galorellutz: aah yes the ultimate stupid FOSS answer, how about I save time and money like every other enterprise grade user and just buy windows10:16
AssidLinux_Galore ?10:16
Assidatwo1: lcd?10:16
Assidenable anti aliasing fonts10:16
llutzLinux_Galore: nobody stops you, but this is off-topic here so go to some other channels10:16
Assidi think its in manage display  or something10:16
Linux_Galoreatwo1: its in kcontrol10:16
atwo1foudn it10:17
atwo1do i force fonts DPI?10:17
atwo1to 12010:17
Assiderr.. enable antialiasing10:17
Assidand you should be fine10:17
Assid96 dpi is generally more than enough10:18
atwo1now where do i run that apt-get update cmd from10:18
atwo1and wtf is 'kdesu'10:18
Linux_Galorellutz: just pointing out how insane kde is, you have a nice web browser and cd/dvd burner apps even thanks to kde 4 lots of bouncing icon effects, but not one single email client that is the basic app needed for a desktop that does html like every professional email app out there10:19
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:19
elisianoDaemon--: that would be a workaround10:20
AssidLinux_Galore: thunderbird10:20
atwo1where do i type the apt-get update10:20
atwo1in what10:20
elisianou could try vmware just to see if it works10:20
atwo1and the default res is completely screwed10:20
Linux_GaloreAssid: not a kde app10:20
AssidLinux_Galore: doesnt matter, it works fine10:20
Linux_GaloreAssid: it does Im loading two sets of libraries when I should not have too10:21
Assidwel then use kmail10:21
Voyage__any suggestions for a file manager instead of dolphin or konqureor.   (may be same like windows file manager) ?10:21
atwo1littlle help plz10:21
Linux_GaloreAssid: kmail has no html editor support10:21
AssidLinux_Galore: wouldnt know, kcorn or somwething?10:22
ardchoilleVoyage__: I use krusader10:23
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res10:23
Voyage__ardchoille thats similer to windows?10:23
atwo1what's the problem happening10:23
ardchoilleVoyage__: No idea, I haven't seen Windows in years10:24
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: just change your default file browser to konqueror10:24
Voyage__i need a max option giving/functional file manager10:24
ardchoilleVoyage__: That would be konqueror10:24
Voyage__Linux_Galore i dont like it either.  i cant chang icon size.10:24
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res10:25
Assiderr that live cd for kde4 has a major bug10:25
Assidenabling desktop effects kills it10:25
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: you can change the icon size to anything you want10:25
Linux_Galorein konqueror10:25
Voyage__Linux_Galore nop.... the spacing between icons is not changable10:26
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (144)0x90010:26
Voyage__Linux_Galore can you give any other verirty of good managers you think?10:26
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: yep you can change that too10:26
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) i mean10:26
Voyage__Linux_Galore how ?10:27
poison--morning guys10:28
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect10:28
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: ok start kcontrol10:29
Linux_Galoreopen a terminal and type kcontrol10:30
Linux_GaloreLook for KDE Components10:31
Linux_Galorethen File Manager10:31
atwo1anyone plz10:31
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect10:31
Voyage__Linux_Galore k then10:32
llutz!patience | atwo110:32
ubotuatwo1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:32
Linux_Galorein the appearance tab you can set the text parrameters10:32
atwo1llutz do you help or just use those triggers10:32
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: were are you up to10:32
Voyage__Linux_Galore theres no option there10:35
lascari installed dapper on an acer557oz, and it can't detect my wireless nic at all.  Anyone?10:35
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?10:36
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: ok you in kcontrol correct10:37
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: now look for KDE Components10:37
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: then  File Manager10:38
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: in the appearance tab you can set the font layout for the icons10:38
elisianoDaemon--: did u get any further?10:40
Daemon--no buddy :(10:40
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: to set the default browser from Dolphin to konqueror in Kcontrol go to KDE Components->File Association, then in the list click and expand "inode", then expand "Directory"10:41
Assidatwo1: if it doesnt work out, just go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it there10:41
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: in the application preference order window to the far right make sure konqueror is at the top of the list10:42
Jay-Oh-Enare there any html editors in linux10:42
Linux_GaloreJay-Oh-En: quanta10:44
Jay-Oh-EnLinux_Galore: is that the package name10:44
ardchoille!info quanta10:44
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2385 kB, installed size 5744 kB10:44
Assidquanta just doesnt measure to the likes to dreamweaver if you ask me10:45
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Quanta was recently rated the best html editor in Linux Format magazine10:45
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: kool ill try it out10:46
Linux_GaloreJay-Oh-En: just search for that string in adept_manager  ie type sudo adept_manager10:46
ardchoille!kdesudo | Linux_Galore10:46
ubotuLinux_Galore: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)10:46
Linux_Galoreardchoille: who cares10:46
atwo1ardchoille: i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?10:46
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: If you're going to give advice in this channel, it's best to stick to the recommended advice.10:46
ardchoilleatwo1: I don't know anything about resolutions.10:47
Linux_Galoreardchoille: give me a kde email client that supports html content editing then worry about adding a idiot window for sudo10:47
bazhangLinux_Galore: we care10:47
atwo1anyone know about setting resolutions etc.10:47
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: Please be nice and follow recommended solutions.10:48
atwo1plus the same thing i keep asking10:48
Linux_Galoreardchoille: pay me and I will follow recommended time wasting solutions10:49
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:50
ardchoille!coc | Linux_Galore10:50
ubotuLinux_Galore: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:50
bazhangatwo1: see above10:50
Linux_Galoreardchoille: lol, very foss, what next i have to wear a little hat with an Ubuntu logo10:50
atwo1why are there Â's everywhere10:50
atwo1in where do i type the commands apt-get10:51
bazhangLinux_Galore: take it to #offtopic please10:51
Linux_Galoreardchoille: you cant define a code of conduct for people you neither employ or control, you may aswell try and stop the tide10:51
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:51
bazhangatwo1: in the konsole10:51
Assidthat kde4 rc2 livecd is totally broken10:51
atwo1i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:52
Assidif you enable desktop effects.. it goes crazy10:52
Linux_GaloreAssid: thats why it has those two little letters "rc" it means it may be broken to some10:52
Assidkonquror doesnt load either10:52
atwo1Release Candidate10:52
bazhangAssid: thus the rc2 name :}10:52
Assidyeah so trying to report it in.. who do i crib to ? ;)10:53
emilsedghAssid: thats because of misconfigurations in X10:53
Assidemilsedgh: misconfig ? konqueror ?10:53
Assidi can understand desktop effects since compiz needs some renderaccel and stuff on10:53
emilsedghAssid: konqueror opens here, it was unstable until 15-20 days ago, but now it is stable enough10:53
Assidbut what about konqueror ?10:53
atwo1To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart »10:53
atwo1that just screwed eveyrthimng10:54
atwo1im in some dos looking scereen10:54
Assidemilsedgh: sadly no, it just does absolutely nothing10:54
Tm_TLinux_Galore: please stay in constructive and kind attitude10:54
emilsedghAssid: no, desktop effects.10:54
Linux_Galoreatwo1: type  xinit /usr/bin/startkde10:54
atwo1i just hit restart10:54
Assidemilsedgh: right, but why isnt konqueror working?10:54
atwo1on the tower10:55
atwo1man some stuff i change doesn't save10:55
Linux_GaloreTm_T: lol, what are you on10:55
Tm_TLinux_Galore: I'm on my chair, as usual10:55
emilsedghAssid: i think most of your problems are because kubuntu is not a KDE4 based distro, whats its error? run it in command line10:56
Linux_GaloreTm_T: sorry thats off topic please take your comment to #kubuntu-offtopic10:56
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:56
Assidemilsedgh: will try it again later, funny enough there wasnt a kvirc or a chat client :|10:56
Tm_Tatwo1: thank you10:56
emilsedghAssid: Kopete is there but its irc protocol is not ready yet :(10:57
atwo1trying to fix this res problems till10:57
emilsedghAssid: KDE 4.0 ill be used with KDE3 applications10:57
atwo1when i try apt-get update10:57
atwo1[08:52pm] <atwo1> i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:57
emilsedghAssid: for example KDE PIM (kmail, kontact and...) will not be released with KDE 4.010:57
Assidemilsedgh: i would so love to move away from windows and finally have my hardware do what its intended to10:57
atwo1assid and old mate use10:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:58
Jay-Oh-Endoes knoqueror work with gmail?10:58
atwo1go in there for convo i'm trying to resolve this install10:58
jussio1Jay-Oh-En: it should...10:58
emilsedghAssid: well, KDE3 is already sooo goood10:58
Assidemilsedgh: how come?10:58
Linux_Galorelol, yep way to piss the only guy of who spent hours last this year handing out Kubuntu cd's10:58
Jay-Oh-Enjussio1: it isnt :[10:58
AssidLinux_Galore: who ?10:58
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ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: It does, but you have to change the user agent string: Tools > Change browser identification10:58
Linux_Galoreguess what Im now niot doing it at next years Cebit10:58
Tm_TLinux_Galore: there's no excuses for misbehaviour10:59
bazhangLinux_Galore: please help out others :}10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:59
Linux_GaloreAssid: Last year at CeBIT I was the only guy demoing Kubuntu/KDE everyone else did gnome10:59
Assidemilsedgh: if those apps are recompiled for the new kde libs, shouldnt it be better?10:59
atwo1when i try apt-get update10:59
atwo1i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:59
atwo1wtf is that about10:59
emilsedghAssid: they couldnt10:59
AssidLinux_Galore: i actually got ubuntu/gnome on my desktop10:59
Assidsorry.. laptop11:00
Tm_TLinux_Galore: and you know well I'm not "on you" in any way, if you disagree with me, feel free to meet me in #ubuntu-ops11:00
Assiddesktop is on win atm, too many requirements that would hinder me11:00
emilsedghAssid: KDE3 apps are written for Qt3/KDE3 Libraries11:00
Linux_GaloreTm_T: aah you mean for having an opinion that doesnt fit yours11:00
Assidemilsedgh: right, but they could upgrade it to kde4 libs and latest QT right ?11:01
Tm_TLinux_Galore: meh, that isn't what I mean11:01
Tm_Tanyway, this is not a place to discuss about this11:01
emilsedghAssid: then they will be KDE4/Qt4 app!11:01
bazhang!aptfix | atwo111:01
ubotuatwo1: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:01
Assidemilsedgh: right, and therefore quicker11:02
emilsedghAssid: thats what people are doing11:02
emilsedghAssid: and for example kde pim apps will not be ready for 4.0 release11:02
Assidhrmm, honestly, i'd like to get my hands on a mac, would address most o fmy needs and hardware that works11:03
Assidi have a core2quad and at times, it just behaves slower than a freshly formatted p411:04
Jay-Oh-Enquanta is pretty good guys11:06
atwo1i restarted x11:07
atwo1and its on this dos screen again11:07
atwo1how do i get back to desktop11:07
Assidrestart x ?11:07
atwo1alt ctrl backspace11:07
atwo1now its on some metroid screen of text11:07
jussio1atwo1: try logging into it then typing: startx11:08
elisianoatwo1: dos? :D11:08
atwo1no i need to know how to start kde11:08
atwo1from this bland screen11:08
jussio1!wtf | atwo111:08
ubotuatwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:08
atwo1did i swear11:08
elisianoatwo1: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:09
sub[t]rnlatwo1: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:09
atwo1i dont see it11:09
jussio1atwo1: (wtf)11:09
atwo1that didn't do anything11:09
atwo1i duno wtf this screen is11:09
atwo1the top ssays11:09
atwo1Starting K Display Manager: kdm.11:09
atwo1then there's all this other random crap11:09
Assidlooks like your xorg is gone11:09
atwo1i hit reset11:09
atwo1i did this11:09
atwo1sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom11:09
atwo1md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum11:09
atwo1sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:09
atwo1trying to fix the res11:10
jussio1atwo1: which graphics card was it?11:10
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?11:10
atwo1gefroce 550011:10
elisianotry with a lower resolutio11:10
atwo1it needs to use native11:10
atwo1or its screwed uip11:10
atwo1the whole KDE is fufkde11:11
atwo1it doesn't load anymore wTF11:11
atwo1im in like11:12
atwo1a full screen of konsole11:12
atwo1ok that command fixed it i think11:12
atwo1ok no it didnt11:13
atwo1its on some completely blank screen11:13
atwo1with text able to be typed in11:13
jussio1atwo1: one moment...11:14
sub[t]rnlcp your backup xorg.conf.custom over11:14
sub[t]rnlsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:15
atwo1k 1 sec11:15
sub[t]rnlthen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:15
atwo1it was that bs screen res 'fix' that killed it eh11:15
atwo1it says 'stopping kde manager'11:16
atwo1then goes11:16
atwo1oh woot11:16
atwo1it fixed it11:16
ubuntu_i neeed help i waas having kubuntu and xp installed to my sys but i ve upgraded my xp to vista home basic then i lost the boot menu so i cant open kubuntu on my sys how can i fix this problem11:16
atwo1and the res is still screwed11:16
jussio1!grub | ubuntu_11:17
ubotuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:17
atwo1any idea on this res11:18
atwo1it's totally pissing me off11:18
atwo1i mean11:19
atwo1i log into system settings as admin11:19
atwo1change the res11:19
atwo1then a restart cbhanges it back11:19
atwo1the native res puts the screen halfway off the monitor11:19
atwo1id ont get it11:19
ardchoilleatwo1: Can't you just fiddle with the monitor settings to fix that?11:20
atwo1lol no way11:20
atwo1the desktop is about 20% to the right11:20
atwo1its just squished over11:21
atwo1the whole screen is on there but11:21
atwo1the left side is pushed over by about 20% of the screen11:21
atwo1and if i restart11:21
atwo1it changes back to a dif res11:21
atwo1every time11:21
niwai'm having trouble getting wireless to work, anyone that can help? It's a liteon wn5301a with artheros5413 chipset, which should be supported by madwifi11:22
niwabut after manually modprobing ath_pci, it still doesn't show up when doing iwconfig :(11:22
niwathe module loads without problems11:22
sigmado people still add features to kppp?11:23
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:23
atwo1that didn't work11:23
atwo1says 'please use single character options'11:24
sigmai have a small suggestion - have a auto-redial option like windows does11:24
niwaatwo1: have you tried editng Xorg.conf directly?11:25
pastrywhy does my compiz 'cube' only have two sides? :<11:27
coteyranyone have experance with videolan and upnp11:27
stdinpastry: because you only have 2 desktops and it want's 411:27
atwo1niwa: no how do i do that11:27
coteyri recom[iled aginst the non cyberlink sdk but I cen't see anything past the server node in the playlist11:27
pastrystdin, when i have one desktop, it has two sides and there are two desktop selections on the taskbar. when i set it to four, it still has two sides, and there are eight desktop selections in the taskbar11:29
stdinpastry: it has nothing to do with kde settings, you need to tell compiz to have 4 desktops from the settings manager11:29
atwo1how do i manually edit X11:30
TheFishythats easy11:30
atwo1and do i use sudo or kdesu11:30
ardchoilleatwo1: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but be careful11:30
niwaatwo1:  open /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:30
niwabackup :)11:30
TheFishysudo nano ect/x11/xorg.conf...11:30
atwo1i just want to set the resolution how do i do that11:31
ardchoilleatwo1: use kdesu for gui apps and use sudo for cli apps11:31
TheFishydamn i type slow11:31
atwo1i don't know the different lawl11:31
atwo1lol fishy :P11:31
TheFishyto sudo when ever permissions are denined...11:31
elisianogui = graphical user interface, cli = command line interface11:31
TheFishyjust type sudo <command>11:31
atwo1why is the x.org empty11:31
niwaatwo1: you want to look into the section "screen"11:31
elisianogui = windows guy, cli = g33k11:31
atwo1there's nothing in this fieeeeeel11:32
ardchoilleatwo1: Did you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf  or  /etc/x11/xorg.conf ? (notice the upper case X)11:32
elisianoatwo1: xorg.conf11:32
elisianonot x.org11:32
TheFishyoh yeah stupid cap sensitive11:32
atwo1ok lols one was lower11:32
atwo1got it no11:32
TheFishydont listen to me11:33
atwo1screen has loads of stuff11:33
atwo1what do i do11:33
TheFishyim a kubunub11:33
atwo1it says11:33
niwai can't remember exactly, but you need to find 'Section "Screen"'11:33
atwo1screen 0 "defealt screen" 0 011:33
atwo1should i change it to11:34
atwo1screen 0 "defealt screen" 1440 90011:34
niwacan you paste the whole file? ( http://paste-it.net )11:35
PolitikerNEUDoes anybody know how to get libkcddb-dev? I cannot find it in the package manager (adept) - kubuntu 7.1011:36
pastrythank you stdin, got it11:36
stdinPolitikerNEU: there doesn't seem to be a -dev built for it11:37
atwo1oh WTF11:37
atwo1my net on that comp is dead11:37
PolitikerNEUhmm ... ok, so I got to dl it manually?11:37
michelehello....someone use Hmail, the theme of superkaramba?11:38
stdinPolitikerNEU: pretty much, you'll have to get the kdemultimedia source from "apt-get source kdemultimedia"11:38
atwo1what the FK11:39
atwo1why doesnt my net work now grrrrrr11:39
niwamy file looks like this: http://paste-it.net/523311:39
PolitikerNEUok, thx11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:40
atwo1niwa: there it is11:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleepd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:45
niwaatwo1: what did you say your res was, adn what do you want it to be?11:45
atwo1there's 2 problems11:46
Jay-Oh-En!info sleepd11:46
elisiano@now Europe/Rome11:46
ubotusleepd: puts an inactive or low battery laptop to sleep. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.9 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 132 kB11:46
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Rome: December 13 2007, 12:46:14 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 13 minutes11:46
atwo1it defaults to 1400x105011:46
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i get sleepd to work11:46
atwo1native is 1440x90011:46
atwo1but when i put that res11:46
atwo1left side is squished in by about 20%11:46
atwo1and it wont line up11:46
atwo1its pissing me off it makes no sense11:48
bazhangatwo1: do you have controls on the monitor you can fiddle with?11:48
atwo1they no where near work11:48
atwo1the left side if pushed 20% accrross to the right11:49
Assid@now asia/calcutta11:49
atwo1but the right side lines up properly11:49
ubotuCurrent time in Asia/Calcutta: December 13 2007, 17:19:12 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 10 minutes11:49
atwo1@now australia/sydney11:49
ubotuCurrent time in Australia/Sydney: December 13 2007, 22:49:23 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 10 minutes11:49
stdincan you stop using @now in here, look at the clock if you aren't sure of the time11:50
atwo1i @now'd a place that has a different time to where i am11:50
atwo1i has no clock 4 there11:50
atwo1ps. help my issue get fixed :>11:50
niwaatwo1: i'm not sure, but it seems that auto configuration hasn't detected that your monitor supports 1440x90011:50
stdin!acronyms | atwo111:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acronyms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:51
elisianoatwo1: sorry to ask again, maybe u already said: which is your setup?11:51
stdin!language > atwo111:51
elisianovideo card/monitor resolution11:51
atwo1geforce 550011:51
niwaatwo1: definitly not sure, all xorg.conf experience comes from gentoo fiddling11:51
atwo119inch widescreen11:51
ubotuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.11:51
atwo1just fucking gimme it11:52
* atwo1 shrugs11:52
atwo1i made that one up11:52
atwo1was it right?11:52
atwo1what's up with this res then11:52
atwo1otherwise i'll just have to take the monitor back11:53
elisianodid u install nvidia drivers correctly?11:53
atwo1and the store is full of moron asian kids11:53
atwo1i can't install anything11:53
atwo1apt-get is screwy11:53
elisianowhy not?11:53
atwo1or else i duno what to do11:53
atwo1i've had kubuntu for like 1 hour11:53
elisianodo u run it as root?11:53
elisianoor with sudo?11:53
atwo1tell me what to use11:53
atwo1slash do11:53
elisianohow are you trying to apt?11:54
bazhangatwo1: probably best to take a break for now--getting this riled up can't be a help11:54
atwo1don't know11:54
atwo1who's riled up?11:54
pastryi thought you cant run with root and only with sudo :<11:54
atwo1i'm stoned and relaxed after a long days work11:54
atwo1just toying with this11:54
atwo1once i fix the res i can actually take a look at things11:54
elisianoI gotta go eat in 5 minutes11:54
atwo1i'm guessing it's a driver issue11:55
atwo1what do i type where to do what11:55
elisianotry and see if it's a perms problem11:55
atwo1im in konsole11:55
atwo1as root11:55
elisianosudo apt-get update11:55
elisianoas root11:55
elisianook w/o sudo then11:55
bazhangatwo1: no one has an answer for you right now, so it might be wise to check out the forums for an answer11:55
atwo1it does this11:55
niwaelisiano: you should begin by installing nvidia proprietary drivers11:55
bazhangoo as root11:55
atwo1let me paste what it says11:55
niwadidn't notice that you hadn't unitl now11:55
niwasorry atwo111:55
elisianoniwa: I have them installed correctly, maybe atwo1 should as well11:56
niwayes, lol :)̈́11:56
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:56
atwo1when i type11:56
atwo1apt-get update11:56
atwo1i get this11:56
atwoIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_AU11:56
atwoIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_AU11:56
atwoReading package lists... Done11:56
bazhangno wonder11:56
atwo1no wonder what11:57
bazhangatwo1 you need to add repositories and disable the cd as a software source11:57
atwo1the cd isn't even in the drive11:57
bazhangno matter11:57
atwo1ok so what do i do11:57
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:57
bazhangatwo1 open up adept11:57
atwo1where is adept11:58
bazhangalt +f2 adept11:58
jembougehi there11:58
atwo1now wut11:58
jembougeanyones knows where the kdm themes are located?11:59
bazhangactually that should be kdesu adept iirc11:59
stdinkdesu adept_manager11:59
bazhangoh ok11:59
ardchoillejembouge: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes11:59
atwo1ah THIS THING11:59
atwo1i remember this11:59
bazhangclose adept atwo111:59
jembougethanks ardchoille11:59
atwo1ok im in11:59
atwo1the latter11:59
atwo1now what11:59
niwaor just system->adept :/11:59
ardchoillejembouge: yw12:00
atwo1what am i doign in here12:00
bazhangatwo1 now run alt +f2 again but type kdesu adept_manager12:00
sebastian^moin folks :)12:00
atwo1yeah im there12:00
atwo1already i said12:00
sebastian^hmm, is anyone using here the cisco network assistance :)?12:00
bazhangatwo1: were you prompted for your sudo password?12:01
atwo1i clickde 'fetch updates'12:01
atwo1was that right12:01
atwo1and versino upgrade12:01
bazhangatwo1: better to just open it from the kmenu, as niwa said12:01
bazhangatwo1 so close it now12:02
jembougeardchoille: cool, I had look for them in many directories so far without success. Do you know of a good "tutorial" that explains the system folders-tree?12:02
atwo1hold up12:02
atwo1its diong all these updates12:02
atwo1im in adept12:03
atwo1it didnt ask for my pw12:03
atwo1but tell me what im doing in here12:03
ardchoillejembouge: I'm afraid I don't :(12:04
jembougeok no worries thanks :)12:04
atwo1bazhang: ?12:04
niwaatwo1: did you start kde from the command line earlier?12:06
ActionParsniphi all12:06
atwo1think so12:06
niwaatwo1: if so, you might already be root12:06
atwo1what am i doing in here12:06
atwo1i am12:06
niwaatwo1: open konsole and type 'whoami'12:07
atwo1do i untick cdrom as a third party software source12:07
atwo1the name i log on with12:07
niwaatwo1: tes12:07
atwo1where did he go12:07
atwo1what am i doing in here12:07
ActionParsnipatwo: go easy on the enter key dude12:07
niwaatwo1: like you said, untick the cd sources12:07
atwo1do i tick the other 2?12:08
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i make my computer go to sleep12:08
atwo1sleeping pills12:08
niwaatwo1: not unless you want to12:08
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: do you mean hibernate?12:08
Jay-Oh-Enatwo1: FUNNY you should be a comedian12:08
atwo1something happened12:08
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: no i mean suspend or sleep12:08
niwabut make sure that you tick at least 'main' in the first tab12:09
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: cause hibernate broke my computer before12:09
ubotuThe Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:09
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: are you on a laptop?12:09
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: yeah its a bit weird12:09
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: why12:09
ActionParsnipcos of apm stuff. not sure why. its just weird (specially for laptops)12:09
atwo1niwa: what now?12:10
atwo1i unticked all the 3rd party12:10
atwo1and ticked main12:10
atwo1oh wait up it's dl'ing stuff there we go12:10
atwo1do i restart now?12:11
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: well no i dont have a laptop12:11
niwaatwo1: apt-get should work now, i think12:11
atwo1there's so much to get12:11
atwo1and update etc.12:11
niwai installed ubuntu yesterday, so i'm not sure12:11
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: but i know you can make a desktop sleep ive did it in ubuntu before :[12:11
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: just found this http://www.linux.com/feature/5461012:11
atwo1ActionParsnip that's a mad nick lololol12:11
niwaatwo1: also, you should check 'restricted' in the first tab, as you need the nvidia drivers12:12
ActionParsnipatwo: its a harry hill joke12:12
atwo1who is harry hill12:12
ActionParsnipatwo: british standup comedian...very strange12:12
atwo1this adept thing is half dead12:13
atwo1trying to update all these things12:13
korobaseI install the eclipse,and type the "./eclipse" in console.Then it can't run but show "bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory"12:13
korobaseWhat is wrong with this?12:13
llutzkorobase: eclipse, withou ./ unless you are in the eclipse directory12:13
ardchoillekorobase: Any reason you aren't installing eclipse from the repository?12:14
korobaseno ,it also don't work!12:14
korobasenot from the repository.12:14
atwo1if a program is taking a long time to do something, is there a way to tell if it's just crashed or still working?12:14
llutzkorobase: where did you install eclipse to? change in that dir and find the executable-file12:14
jembougewell guys, coming back in a few... cheers12:15
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: that doesnt work12:15
korobaseI use the absolute path to run it,But the result is the same.12:16
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: i'll have a google. gimme a sec12:16
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20804212:16
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: ok12:16
korobaseis this the Dolphin's problem?12:17
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: i couldnt find that in my kmenu12:18
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: does apm -s suspend your system?12:19
Jay-Oh-Enwell how will i get it back from sleep12:20
Jay-Oh-EnNo APM support in kernel12:21
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: there's your issue12:21
Jay-Oh-Eni dont get it tho i can suspend in ubuntu but not kubuntu :[12:21
korobaseall the executable file can't run in my computer.Why?12:21
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: if you add acpi=off to your kernal args at boot then apm should be there12:22
atwo1apt-get update says12:24
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html12:24
atwo1Could not open lock file12:24
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: may help12:24
atwo1ver/lib/apt/lists/lock - open 13 permission denied12:24
ardchoilleatwo1: Do you have adept open?12:24
stdinatwo1: use sudo12:25
ardchoilleatwo1: adept and apt-get both use the same lock file, you can't use both apps at the same time, you need to close on to use the other12:25
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6030612:26
atwo1i tried to make12:26
atwo1apt thingy get all the updates12:26
atwo1but it just crahsed i think12:26
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:26
atwo1ardchoille: i tried that once it was deadly12:26
atwo1plus it says u can't use 2 somethnis12:26
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/4750812:27
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: thanks12:27
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: SOOO many links ill take a look at all of them12:27
atwo1if im in root so i have to type sudo12:27
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: yeah man i'll lay off now and let you wade through :)12:27
atwo1look man12:28
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: thanks12:28
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:28
atwo1that makes no sense12:28
atwo1and doesn't work12:28
atwo1'please use single character options'12:29
jussio1atwo1: what exactly are you putting there?12:30
atwo1apt-get is being a jerk12:30
* ActionParsnip is afk12:30
atwo1read up a bit12:30
atwo1god i click 'fetch updates'12:31
atwo1and there's 539012:31
jussio1atwo1: kk... so you need to close adept before you do any of that, then type: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a12:31
marco80qualche italiano?12:31
jussio1!it | marco8012:31
ubotumarco80: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:31
atwo1doesn'ty do anythuing12:31
jussio1atwo1: now try using adept12:32
atwo1says 'waiting for headers'12:33
atwo1im doing it under sudo in konsole12:34
jussio1atwo1: wait for them then :D12:34
atwo1that works eh12:34
atwo1now how do i make them dl12:34
atwo1it saus12:34
atwo1all this random crap12:34
atwoGet:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg [191B]12:34
atwoIgn http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_AU12:34
atwoHit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release12:34
atwoHit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages12:34
atwoFetched 1B in 16s (0B/s)12:34
atwoReading package lists... Done12:34
atwo1and thats all it does12:35
jussio1atwo1: what are you exactly trying to do?12:35
atwo1update everything12:35
atwo1i just installed it12:35
atwo1also my screen is rooted12:35
atwo1ther is a 150-200 pixel blank space on the left of the screen.12:36
atwo1on the native resolution12:36
niwaatwo1: you should install the nividia drivers before trying to fix that problem12:37
jussio1atwo1: it seems you dont have the universe repos enabled. please go to manage repositories from th file menu in adept and make sure all the boxes except source are clicked12:37
atwo1oops meant to delete that12:37
atwo1source code u mean12:38
atwo1oh hooray12:39
atwo123132 downloads available12:39
jussio1atwo1: yeah, thats how many you can install - not updates.12:39
atwo1so i dont need them all12:40
atwo1its just a list of the available programs to the OS?12:40
jussio1atwo1: now try the fetch updates button in adept12:40
jussio1atwo1: yes12:40
atwo1jesus christ something that uses half a brain for once instead of allowing billions of shit programs to exist12:40
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:40
atwo1omg u dobbed12:40
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:40
atwo1it's not like i'm being abusive to people12:40
atwo1calm down12:40
ardchoilleatwo1: Please be respectful to others12:41
atwo1i havn't been disrespectful to anyone else at all12:41
atwo1ok i went to the nvidia section of the list12:42
atwo1and just tried to install them all12:42
jussio1atwo1: that isnt really going to work.12:42
atwo1thought i'd give it a shot :>12:42
jussio1!ati | atwo1 Read this:12:42
ubotuatwo1 Read this:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:42
atwo1i do all this stuff in konsole right12:43
jussio1atwo1: you are using gutsy?12:44
jussio1atwo1: ie. kubuntu 7.10 ?12:45
atwo1just installed tonight12:45
jussio1atwo1: then follow the gutsy instructions...12:45
atwo1doing now12:46
jussio1use the restricted manager in systems settings12:46
atwo1its turning on12:46
atwo1its sitting at 87% for agesw12:46
jussio1atwo1: you need to be a little patient with it12:46
sigmais there any article online that explains why linux is better than proprietory software?12:48
sigmaanyone perhaps have a link to a decent one12:49
TheFishywhat is a good movie?12:49
jussio1TheFishy: lets keep it on topic12:50
sigmaoh guys what chatroom are the tutorials being held in 2day?12:50
korobaseIn the Dolphin,A right-clicking on a execute file,the menu don't have the "Open" command.Why?12:50
sigmaTheFishy: try #kubuntu-offtopic12:50
TheFishyjust double click it?12:50
stdinsigma: #kubuntu-devel  like it says in the link12:50
atwo1ok iyd12:50
ardchoillesigma: #kubuntu-devel12:50
jussio1sigma: #kubuntu-devel12:50
atwo1ok its done, when it says 'computer needs restart' does it mean start menu or ctrl alt backspace12:51
korobaseHelp me!12:51
stdinatwo1: reboot12:51
jussio1!ask | korobase12:51
korobase In the Dolphin,A right-clicking on a execute file,the menu don't have the "Open" command.Why?12:51
atwo1ok here goes12:51
ubotukorobase: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:51
ardchoillekorobase: We can't help you until we know what you need help with12:52
atwo1its freaking out a bit12:53
korobaseI want run a executable file through the right-menu of a file.12:53
TimSWow, I diddn't realise you could run apt:kget in a web browser and it automaticaly installs programs!12:54
TimSThat is brilliant :P12:54
atwo1jussio1: nothing happened it loaded up toa blank screen its just black12:54
gjanyone her familiar with the karamba theme hmail?12:56
ardchoilleTimS: How exactly did you do that?12:57
TimSFound it of a ubuntu blog. But go to firefox or konquerer and type apt:[packagename] and it isntalls it12:58
gjanyone here familiar with te karamba theme 'hmail'?12:58
TimSIt asks for the password in GUI and then downloads and installs the package12:59
dilsehi, this is more of a developer request than a user question: in KMenu -> System Settings -> User Management, if I sort by UID by clicking the column head, it sorts by ASCII first instead of a numerical sort (so 1, 10, 1000, all show up before 6)12:59
ardchoilleTimS: That doesn't work here :(12:59
eljefe_I just exported a file from Audacity into MP3, and I was reading the file length is 3:39 but its really 5:02.  How can I have the MP3 to have the correct time stamp?12:59
atwo1jussio1: nothing happened it loaded up toa blank screen its just black12:59
dilsei don't think that's very intuitive and would like to see that changed12:59
ardchoilleTimS: yes12:59
atwo1it's the like the monitor isn't detected AT ALL12:59
TimSIt should be installed by default in 7.1012:59
* ActionParsnip is back12:59
TimSaptURL is the package name12:59
eljefe_dilse: file a bug or a wish13:00
TimSardchoille: sudo apt-get install apturl13:00
ardchoilleTimS: apturl is not installed in Gutsy by default.. but it is in the repos, nice13:00
gjanyone here familiar with te karamba theme 'hmail'?13:00
TimSIt was installed for me in Gutsy by deafault13:01
TimSDid you upgrade to Gutsy?13:01
jussio1!repeat | gj13:01
ubotugj: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience13:01
ardchoilleTimS: No, I installed from desktop cd13:01
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niwagj: no, but i just installed it :)13:01
TimSHi emilsedgh13:01
gjhehe allright niwa...13:01
emilsedghHi TimS13:01
ardchoilleTimS: But, thank you for the tip :)13:01
gjis it working for u? i cant ind a way to configure mine13:02
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:02
TimSI need to find more packages to isntall to have some fun with apt:[package]13:02
sigmahow does a virus infect a computers bios? it just doesnt make sense to me13:03
atwo1i just done this13:03
atwo1As of Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the recommended way to install the binary driver is to open System Settings KMenu ? System Settings, go to the Advanced tab and click Restricted Drivers. Then click the Administrator Mode button and check the box marked Enable to install the driver. This should install the right package for your card and set it up for you.13:03
xerrijoin #ungi-pot13:03
ardchoillesigma: The same way you can flash a bios from a floppy disk?13:03
atwo1now the monitor isnt detected at all13:03
niwagj; cat ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/54466-hmail/hmail/scripts/13:03
gjis hmail working for u niwa?? if yes how did u configured it..? i can nowhere find a way to configure hmail13:04
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gjok ill check it out13:04
atwo1i see the kubuntu thing13:04
atwo1load up the bar13:04
atwo1then it undetects13:04
TheFishyhow do i find a process from a window?13:04
niwagj: "cat ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/54466-hmail/hmail/README"13:05
dilseeljefe_: that's what i'm wondering. is the system settings panel part of kde now? if so, then i should probably file a bug with the kde people, _not_ with the kubuntu people, right?13:06
atwo1am i missing half the convo here13:06
TheFishyhow do i figure out what windows belong to what proccesses?13:06
eljefe_hmm... i think System Settings is a part of KDE4, but most of its parts are made up od KControl anyways.  Yeah I'd say with KDE people.13:07
sub[t]rnlTheFishy: you can use "top" to see current processes.  If your looking for something specific, you can use "ps". ex: ps ax|grep findthis13:07
eljefe_dilse:   hmm... i think System Settings is a part of KDE4, but most of its parts are made up od KControl anyways.  Yeah I'd say with KDE people.13:07
llutzTheFishy: maybe output of xwininfo helps too13:08
atwo1after enabling the graphics driver in 'restricted drivers' my monitor isn't detected at all.. what do i do now :<13:08
niwaatwo1: do you mean that X starts, but is completly black?13:09
TheFishyI need the PID13:09
xRaich[o]2xis there a package that contains kwalletmanager for kde4?13:10
niwaatwo1: or do you get the terminal ("dos-like" text interface)13:10
ActionParsnipTheFishy: i use ps -ef | grep <processname>13:10
ActionParsnipTheFishy: PID is the first value after the processname13:10
atwo1oh snap didnt know i could type13:11
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: well, i think thats included in kdebase13:11
atwo1niwa: what do i do13:11
atwo1there's no prompts or anything13:11
atwo1its just a blank screen which u can type in13:11
niwaatwo1: can you type commands?13:11
atwo1i can type in things13:12
atwo1but pressing enter seems to just go to the next line13:12
atwo1there's no prompt or anything13:12
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: kdebase-kde4 is installed13:13
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: i looked and i didnt find anyone for myself too13:14
TheFishyActionParsnip: that is not working man13:14
TheFishyjames     7112  5315  0 05:14 pts/0    00:00:00 grep SDLjump13:15
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: maybe inside kde4utils... but i don't trust those kde4* packages13:15
niwaatwo1: do you get a reply if you try typing 'pwd' + enter13:15
TheFishyno PID13:15
spitfirejussi01: are you online?13:15
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: trust!?13:15
ActionParsnipTheFishy: 7112 is the pid of the process you invoked to search for the program. basically its not running13:15
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TheFishybut it is...13:16
ActionParsnipTheFishy: try a simple example like firefox. run firefox then ps -ef | grep fire13:16
ChickenTikkawhen i install something via adept13:16
TheFishythe window is up13:16
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: they corrupted my kde4 install once. i prefer the kde*-kde4 packages13:16
ChickenTikkahow can i actually install it?13:16
ActionParsnipTheFishy: then you are searching for the wrong process name13:16
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: use svn13:16
atwo1niwa: no it doesn't register anything but the input text it looks like :s13:16
TheFishyits the window name right?13:16
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: haha no thanks ^^13:16
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ActionParsnipTheFishy: nope, thats just a pretty13:16
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: not on my notebook13:17
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: why? i have it on my notebook too13:17
atwo1ChickenTikka: right click on it and click install13:17
TheFishyok how do i find the process name of a window13:17
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: dont worry!13:17
atwo1then do the apply button at the top13:17
ActionParsnipTheFishy: if you rightclick on the program you ran and find out what it ACTUALLY runs, you can grep for that13:17
atwo1ChickenTikka: 'request install'13:17
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xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: i had gentoo on one of my notebooks once. i'm happy those days of compiling are gone ;)13:17
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: i'll wait for the binary release ^^ until then i have to type in my passwords13:18
ChickenTikkaatwo1: i did13:18
TimSWhat does grep do?13:18
ChickenTikkaatwo1: but the thing is that it keeps giving me an error13:18
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: why not just use sudo apt-get install <program name>13:18
TheFishywhat is the best command to kill a process?13:19
niwaatwo1: no idea :S13:19
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: well, im happy that i can test all the kde stuff everytime and i dont want to wait for packages ;)13:19
llutzTheFishy: kill or killall13:19
niwaatwo1: try alt+F713:19
TheFishywhats the format with kill?13:19
ActionParsnipTheFishy: Kill <PID>13:19
TimSkill pid13:19
eljefe_TheFishy: [ctrl][esc] will bring up the KDE process table13:19
atwo1well niwa13:19
atwo1it's completely screwed13:19
atwo1after i set it up to auto detect the graphics card13:19
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: the kubuntu packages are pretty awesome so i don't have to worry about compiling. the only thing missing is kwalletmanager and i can live with that ^^13:20
ardchoille!wtf | atwo113:20
ubotuatwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:20
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: one month without it wont kill me ;)13:20
ChickenTikka ActionParsnip: well how can i use it?13:20
ActionParsnipxRaich[o]2x: hey raich13:20
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: bring up a konsole13:20
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: hi13:20
ActionParsniptype sudo apt-get install <program name>13:20
TheFishyty eljefe_ that worked nicely13:20
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: for me kde4 apps open kde3's wallet manager13:20
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: then you will be asked for your password13:20
TheFishyeven top couldn't kill it with sig 1513:20
niwaTheFishy:  and `pidof processname` is useful too13:21
TimSActionParsnip: In 7.10 you can go to firefox and go apt:[packagename]13:21
ChickenTikkait said i need to run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.13:21
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: kde3 apps inside kde4 feel so wrong ^^13:21
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: do that then13:21
niwaTheFishy: eg ' kill `pidof superkaramba`'13:21
ActionParsnipTimS: nice, i prefer typing commands :D13:21
cntbresolution problem on virtual kubuntu over ms virtualPC , S3 emulation real card is intel , now trying things from ubotu tip - link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, still too expanded13:21
TimSEasier for begginers13:22
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: yes, but you have to deal with it for some time, at least until 4.113:22
TheFishynever try the game sdljump.... it sucks and locks up every second13:22
ChickenTikkaits asking me to Y/I/N/O/D/Z13:22
ChickenTikkawhat do i do13:22
cntbsuggestions ?13:22
llutzniwa:easier " killall superkaramba"13:22
TimSWhats the question?13:22
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: what is the default13:22
eljefe_ChickenTikka: what is it asking about?13:22
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: and whats the question13:22
niwallutz: true :)13:22
cntbchatting now from xp kubuntu is on kdm stop waiing for right xorg.conf13:22
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: not really. the only apps i miss are amarok (i use juk now) and kwalletmanager13:22
ChickenTikkaActionParsnip: *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?13:22
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: for everything else i use CLI13:23
ActionParsnipTimS: any suggestions?13:23
TimSxRaich[o]2x: How can you live without amarok?13:23
emilsedghxRaich[o]2x: if youre a cli guru, then all you need is xfce13:23
TimSActionParsnip: I would go with n13:23
xRaich[o]2xemilsedgh: *shudders* ^^13:23
ActionParsnipTimS: me too13:23
ActionParsnipTimS: cheers dude13:23
cntbwill sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange query work right on virual PC?13:23
elisianoemilsedgh: u don't need X if u're a geek13:23
TimSNot quite sure what hes doing though13:23
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: go with N13:24
TheFishyis there another console emulator like yakuake but better?13:24
emilsedghelisiano: you do, everyone needs a browser13:24
xRaich[o]2xTimS: i can't live with kde3 anymore ^^ it's just plain ugly compared to kde4 ^^13:24
ActionParsnipTheFishy: define "better"13:24
elisianolynx, links2, elinks13:24
eljefe_xRaich[o]2x: Amarok isn't in kde4 yet?  is a beta avialable?13:24
TimSI dont like kde4 widgets13:24
TimSlynx <33333313:24
eljefe_TimS: could you clarify?  whats wrong with the widgets?13:24
xRaich[o]2xeljefe_: no they need QT4.4 and it'll come out in 2008 Q113:24
ChickenTikkaYAY THANKS13:24
eljefe_xRaich[o]2x: thay, who?13:24
ActionParsnipxRaich[o]2x: i'd rather have fast rather than pretty13:25
ChickenTikkaits installing13:25
TimSI just dont like the looks of them.13:25
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: awesome13:25
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: kde4 is faster ;)13:25
ChickenTikkahow come adept is going apeshit and has errors?13:25
TheFishyActionParsnip: all I am looking for is a console that doesn't have a window and appears from no where via hotkey... yakuake is a bit glitchy...13:25
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: i'd also do sudo apt-get autoremove13:25
TheFishyare there any others?13:25
TimSFishy you could swap to a command line completly?13:25
TheFishyTims... I like GUI to play games and stuff13:26
ActionParsnipxRaich[o]2x: depends how you config it13:26
ChickenTikkaguys, how can i start running EXE normally?13:26
ChickenTikkai have apps i need to use13:26
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: what is the app?13:26
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.13:26
niwaso, no help on my wireless :( ?  Should i just go 32bit? that way I can at least use ndiswrapper...13:26
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: sure kde3 can be fast but it's nice to have a DE that works so nicely with my hardware13:26
ChickenTikkaphotoshop CS3 and some games ofcourse13:26
ChickenTikkai need it for games13:27
jussi01!wine | ChickenTikka13:27
ubotuChickenTikka: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.13:27
TimSniwa: Whats going on with your wireless13:27
TimSCS3 doesnt work on Linux much13:27
jussi01hi there ChickenTikka13:27
ChickenTikka:S why not13:27
ChickenTikkajussi01: HI13:27
TheFishyanyone know of anything else like that?13:27
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: plus konqueror works a lot better in kde413:27
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: sudo apt-get install wine13:27
TimSIts a windows application13:27
ActionParsnipxRaich[o]2x: dolphin for me13:28
ChickenTikkaim killing everyone with questions last two days13:28
TimSThats like expecting PS2 games to run on a XBOX13:28
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: jep dolphin works a lot better too13:28
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: if you like photoshop then check out gimp13:28
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: i use konqueror for web browsing13:28
ActionParsnip!gimp | ChickenTikka13:28
ubotuChickenTikka: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.13:28
ChickenTikkaActionParsnip: i know gimp but its not like PS13:28
niwa i'm having trouble getting wireless to work. I have a liteon wn5301a with artheros5413 chipset, which should be supported by madwifi13:28
niwabut after manually modprobing ath_pci, it still doesn't show up when doing iwconfig :(13:28
ActionParsnipxRaich[o]2x: i use firefox but i'm trying kylie for the name :)13:28
ChickenTikkaTimS: you cant compare consoles and computers13:29
ActionParsnipniwa: can you provide a paste of you /etc/network/interfaces13:29
TimSI am not13:29
nosrednaekimniwa: probably a HAL issue, try doing "/etc/init.d/dbus restart"13:29
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: haha :) konqueror4 works really smooth. there only is one bug with auto completition but that one is already fixed in svn13:29
TimSI am saying windows programs doesnt work on Linux. You can use some through Wine, check the wine AppDB13:29
atwo1well i will have to reinstall somehow13:30
atwo1my kubuntu is stuffed13:30
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: i think it runs through cedega but you gotta pay for the binaries13:30
atwo1screen wont even get recognised13:30
ChickenTikkaActionParsnip: do all games run?13:30
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: some13:31
cntbresolution problem on virtual kubuntu over ms virtualPC , S3 emulation real card is intel , now trying things from ubotu tip - link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, still too expanded13:31
ActionParsnipatwo1: do you have your original xorg.conf file?13:31
ChickenTikkaActionParsnip: how can i tell before i buy the game?13:31
jussi01!appdb | ChickenTikka13:31
ubotuChickenTikka: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org13:31
TimSIf you want windows games, you could use VMWare or dual boot windows.13:31
cntb>suggestions ?13:31
holoi am running worms world party!! what else one needs?13:31
ActionParsnip!cedega | ChickenTikka13:31
ubotuChickenTikka: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega13:31
cntbkdm starts wide and unreadable13:31
niwanosrednaekim: sorry, gtg in a hurry i will be back later13:34
niwapower is going to be cut13:34
ChickenTikkathanks for the WineDB really helpful;13:35
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: np13:35
ChickenTikkaall i needed was to see warhammer13:35
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: hehe13:35
sigma__niwa must be from south africa:)13:35
* ChickenTikka is loving this linux thing13:36
sigma__how can i free memory thats been cached but is not being used?13:36
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: glad you like it13:36
ActionParsnipChickenTikka: get wine installed and off you go13:36
nosrednaekimsigma__: it will be utomatically freed when you need it13:36
llutzsigma__: why do you want that? unused mem is wasted mem13:36
sigma__llutz: im just a bit worried, only konversation running and its using 980mb memory, doesnt windows only use less than 200mb when idle?13:37
llutzsigma__: win uses mem different way. no worries, it's ok13:38
ActionParsnipsigma__: can you provide a paste of the output of top13:38
ActionParsnipsigma__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org13:39
nosrednaekimhi Norgur13:40
mihaelwhere is now Tutorials Day?13:41
ardchoillemihael: #kubuntu-devel13:41
sigma__ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48075/ ok its gone down a little13:41
ActionParsnipsigma__: can i have the output of top13:42
ActionParsnipsigma__: like all of it (as much as poss)13:43
ActionParsnipsigma__: please13:43
llutzsigma__: check this one :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48077/13:44
sigma__ActionParsnip and llutz: i posted a correction at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48078/13:45
ActionParsnipsigma__: yeah its fine. your highest process is using 0.2% of your ram13:46
llutzsigma__: as i said, don't worry. that mem-usage is OK. why shouldn't the kernel use memory for cache/buffers. it would be a waste of memory13:46
sigma__ok well now i can rest easy13:47
llutzsleep well :)13:47
sigma__how do i create a kontact server?13:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groupware - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:51
snarkstergood morning everybody13:51
ActionParsnipsweet name snarkster13:52
xRaich[o]2xmorning??? it's almost 3 p.m. ^^13:52
nosrednaekimmorning snarkster13:53
ActionParsnip2pm here O_o13:53
nosrednaekim9AM here13:53
xRaich[o]2xomg time is going insane!!!13:53
ActionParsnipamerica always lives 5 hours in the past to us in the UK :D13:55
DownixW00T!  UltraSPARC T2 is now open sourced!13:55
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: and UK is living in the past to us in germany ;)13:56
ActionParsnipxRaich[o]2x: we're snapping at your heels13:56
xRaich[o]2xActionParsnip: dang ^^13:56
xRaich[o]2xone hour til tutorials :)13:57
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ChickenTikkawhats this tutorial thing?14:02
stdinclick the link and see14:02
ChickenTikkahow can i send private messages?14:07
ChickenTikkai did the /msg nickserve thing14:07
ChickenTikkabut its not working14:07
emilsedghChickenTikka: you have to register14:07
emilsedgh!register | ChickenTikka14:07
ubotuChickenTikka: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration14:07
ChickenTikkai did yesterday14:07
snarksterto send private message: get permission first then /msg <name> <message>14:07
emilsedghChickenTikka: so you have to identify14:07
emilsedghChickenTikka: /msg nickserv identify YOUR_PASSWORD14:08
snarkstergotta love kopete for irc..14:08
ActionParsnipsnarkster: xchat for me :D14:09
ActionParsnipsnarkster: on windows and on Linux14:09
snarksteri had no idea that kopete was on windows as well14:10
LjLChickenTikka, you've perhaps registered, but you're not identified. i suggest you read it, not just skim over it.14:10
KredHey ho. Does someone happen to know application for Customer Management?14:10
ActionParsnipKred: in what way?14:11
snarkstersince its 7am here.. i need more coffee.. damn its cold14:11
KredOr CRM14:11
ActionParsnipKred: what's CRM14:11
KredCustomer Relation Management.. well. When customer called and why etc.14:12
sigma__how do i put my kppp window into the system tray?14:12
ActionParsnipKred: could just make a spreadsheet14:12
KredI know :)14:12
ardchoillesigma__: You can start it in the systray with: ksystraycmd appname14:12
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sigma__ok il try that14:13
sigma__kred: google it, theres tons of php-driven apps for crm especially at sorceforge14:13
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ActionParsnipsigma__: !alltray14:14
ActionParsnipsigma: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/05/24/minimize-any-application-to-the-system-tray/14:14
hwDoes anyone know whether eclipse 3.3 CDT is backported for ubuntu feisty?14:14
snarksterso i wanted to automatically starts modprobe ndiswrapper.  I came in here and somebody told me to make a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart well that didnt work.. I did some reasearch and found that /etc/rc.local was the right place to put my command.. Thank you to who ever tried to help.14:14
ActionParsniphome time in 40 mins14:15
snarkstersorry i clicked the wrong thing14:16
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snarksterare any of you running kde4 yet?14:18
kuthuluI'm waiting...scared to test it out :)14:19
snarksterah im going the live cd route. at least get a good look at it then14:19
kuthuluyeah I've check it out....looks great.  Just worried about upgrading14:20
sigmaok that program had that feature built in but i didnt see it14:20
spitfireim running a game on wine14:20
spitfirebut its moving REALLY REALLY14:20
snarksteryah it would be my luck id download it install it and blow up my laptop14:20
snarksterwhat game?14:21
XceIIwine crys alot.14:21
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spitfireBabo Violence14:21
snarksternever heard of it.14:21
spitfireits a minor game14:21
sigmaXcell: wats new?14:21
snarksterDiablo 2 runs great! Starcraft works good..14:21
spitfirequite a community though14:21
XceIInothin sigma..U doin ok today?14:21
snarksterjust cant seem to get my wife computer to run sims2, so shes going back to windows14:22
sigmaXcell: yes indeed, looking forward to the tutorials14:22
spitfireo damn i think my graphics card isnt installed14:22
XceIInice..you'll do just fine..you have it inya14:22
spitfirehow can i check?14:22
spitfirei went to display14:22
sigmayeah wine is getting there slowly but surely, i managed to get call of duty 2 working flawlessly14:23
spitfireand my graphics card dosnt look like its there14:23
snarksteropen konsole and do lspci14:23
snarksteror install the hal stuff14:23
spitfirecommand not found14:24
snarksterprobably sudo lspci|grep video14:24
sigmawhat card is it?14:25
onishidatohey guys, i can play mp3 format with amarok now, my problem is amrok, which one provied didn't work, so i have to reinstall it, and it works, thanks all guys14:25
snarkstersudo lspci|grep video didnt work for my user so i su - then run it14:25
spitfiresnarkster: nothing happened14:25
snarksterlspci|grep vga14:26
snarkster01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)14:26
spitfirenVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]14:27
spitfiresnarkster: but you know in the monitor and display14:27
spitfiresnarkster: when i look at the hardware tab14:28
spitfiresnarkster: nothing is there14:28
sfearsmake sure you have the restricted drivers downloader installed14:28
spitfiresnarkster: it says nv14:28
TheFishywhats the APT way to install KDE 4?14:28
spitfiresfears: how can i do that14:28
sfearsTheFishy, sudo apt get install kde-desktop14:28
snarksteryah my wifes laptop uses ati but when i install fglrx it doesnt work14:29
snarksterso she gets no 3d acceleration14:29
snarkstersmoke break14:29
sigmasnarkster: which laptop?14:29
sfearssearch synaptic for "restricted drivers manager"14:29
sfearsthat should automatically find the correct nvidia driver for you14:30
TheFishysfears: i dont have that as an APT14:30
sfearsmabey kde_desktop?14:30
TheFishyi have kde4base...14:30
TheFishyis that is14:30
spitfireaha i found the restricted drivers, and it seems mine is14:30
unggnuhi all14:30
unggnuis there a torrent for the RC2 LIve CD?14:31
unggnuhi spitfire14:31
unggnuLink seems to be down14:31
sfearsthat might be it14:31
sigmaunggnu: think theres only a torrent for the opensuse one14:31
unggnuwhich is bad :)14:31
unggnunot the torrent, der Live CD14:31
sfearssudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:31
sfearsthat will install the entire kubuntu.. kde & all14:32
sigmayup it is hopeless, i downloaded da first one, and now i know why people use kubuntu:)14:32
sfearsi was surprised how easy it was to install kubuntu & ubuntu14:32
TheFishywill installing kde4base install the whole environment?14:33
snarkstersigma__: its an HP ze423014:33
sfearsit's my first try at linux.. it's working pretty well.. i think the fact that i'm pretty fluent in windows gets in my way sometimes but all and all it's alright14:33
unggnulink is working again, thx14:34
emilsedghTheFishy: no, i think kde4base-workspace14:34
unggnuBtw. OpenSuse-LIve-CD has many problems with my graphic card (intel 915 and Monitor configuration)14:34
Mariandroidit works14:36
sigmasnarkster: what ati chipset does it have?14:36
fzydfIs there a way to make sure I'm using the correct drivers for my graphics chipset? I'm running kubuntu 6.06 and a Intel 945GM.14:36
stdinfzydf: the intel drivers are included14:37
sigmastdin: do the intel drivers for kubuntu give full 3d support?14:38
stdinsigma: yep, that's the good thing about having opensource drivers from intel :)14:38
fzydfhow do I know they are running and not like the VESA drivers or something? Because redraw seems slow for accelerated support.14:38
dreadthe ones from ati / nvidia kinda lack...14:38
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snarkstersigma__: ATI Radeon IGP 330m/340m/350m14:39
sfearsfzydf, ctrl+alt+f1 to bring up terminal & "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you reconfigure your video drivers14:39
stdinfzydf: have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, should have "Driver "i810"" or "Driver "intel"" in there14:39
NetersLandreaui have trouble occasionally getting the fish kioslave to connect to a remote server.. is there a way to force a connection?14:39
stdinfzydf: you may want to upgrade to something later than 6.06, however, to get newer drivers14:39
sigmastdin: ok so those pc's that have onboard intel graphics like hp prebuilt machines will all get full 3d support? besides ati which other graphics vendors have bad 3d support in linux?14:40
DreadKnightnvidia :P14:40
kuthulumaybe the Envy scrpit would help snakster14:40
Mariandroidupdating upgrading14:40
stdinsigma: nvidia isn't great, and SIS is horrible14:40
Mariandroid( hope all still works after that )14:40
stdinkuthulu: 1) envy is for nvidia, 2) we don't support envt *at all*, 3) there are pre-build packages for fglrx and 4) it's easier to use the restricted drivers manager14:41
sigmastdin: yes i remember my SIS days, it was even bad on windows with the proper drivers! whats so bad about nvidia? seems to work perfectly with my card (the proprietory ones from the repo that is) - are you referring to the opensource nvidia ones?14:42
spitfirehi all, i unrestricted my graphics card and got wine14:43
spitfirethe game runs14:43
spitfirebut the mouse dosnt show and theres also gliches in the game14:43
sigmawell thats good to heat14:43
stdinsigma: no, the proprietary ones. because they aren't open source you can't guarantee they will work with all versions of X/AIGLX14:43
niwasorry for leaving so abruptly earlier, anyone still interested in helping with wireless install? (device /w atheros chipset that should be supported by madwifi not being detected, even when manually loading ath_pci)14:43
TheFishyhow do i install kde4 as a different DE than kde 3.5 on linux mint?14:43
TheFishyand what would this command do "sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop"14:44
spitfiredoes anyone have a clue how to fix it?14:44
stdinTheFishy: see the topic14:44
hydrogenTheFishy: what does linux mint have to do with kubuntu?14:45
TheFishycause i am on linux mint KDE14:45
TheFishymeaning i am basically running kubuntu14:45
DreadKnightkde looks best in Kubuntu ;)14:45
hydrogenbut its not kubuntu14:45
Househelp guys14:45
TheFishynot completely...14:46
sigmastdin: ah i see what you mean, but i see most of the complaints are for the really new cards. do u think the opensource ati ones will ever get close to proper 3d acceleration? they are my last hope since ati stopped supporting my mobility radeon in fglrx, but i have noticed the ati driver getting faster over the releases, but the question is will it get to full 3d?14:46
TheFishybut its still14:46
Houseimusing Kubuntu and its not easy to do anything with it14:46
sigmaHouse: what are u having trouble with?14:47
Housemy brother is using UbuntU and it looks slick he has everything changed in 1 theme file download and imported , for me in KubuntU this gotme nuts i couldnt do nothing im lost it doenst understand me and it has sequence steps for each factor i want a full theme pack just to install14:47
stdinsigma: ati have a habit of dropping support for older cards all together, in that case the only option is the opensource 2d version14:47
newuserI know everybody is really busy but I need a little special attention to a sound problem that has been plauging this system since I bought it... I finally found a website that address the issue and there are six steps that should resolve the problem once and for all but you cant get to the website without going to http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/ first and then in search,  Toshiba satellite a205 no sound.. it will then take you to14:47
newuserthe steps...    I really need someone dedicated to helping me do this as I am new to linux and am learning as I  can....  Someone please get me there..              :)14:47
TheFishyhow do i "Add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main to your /etc/apt/sources.list"14:47
stdinTheFishy: edit the file14:47
sigmastdin: will that 2d ever evolve into a 3d?14:47
nareshovTheFishy: open konsole and type "sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"14:48
stdinsigma: seeing as ATI opened up their specs a while ago it may do14:48
Housesigma: kubuntu is slow aswell!14:48
DreadKnightTheFishy: you can get into addept and add the deb.... main line to your 3rd party sources ;)14:48
sigmahouse: i like kubuntu's look better, ubuntu actually looks rather plain14:48
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i open a .rar file that has a password?14:49
newuserI have downloaded the three files nessasary to take the steps but I cant get them in the right folder....   Permissions denied14:49
sigmaHouse: its not slow, u need to set it up properly, more things work in it than in windows for me, for eg my motherboards sound14:49
DreadKnighti stopped using GNOME for a while.. felt in love with KDE14:49
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fzydfstdin: the xorg.conf had the i810 in there, but the config program caused X to quit during monitor detect... :( but the i810 settings are in there.. :)14:50
Housesigma: ubuntu looks plain i know , my brother just went to gnome-look download 1 package then installed it And OMG if you see it you will not beleive it ubuntu its like a UbuntU Next Generation Operating System14:50
DreadKnightAWN (avant window navigator is nice)14:50
snarksterany clues on the fglrx problem?14:50
sigmahouse: you should ask him to post a screenshot and send me the link14:51
sigmadreadknight: what exactly is awn?14:51
DreadKnightdamn old version : http://picasaweb.google.com/dk.vali/Misc/photo#513060503918391134614:51
Housesigma: a hint is look at vista ... you see how it looks even when you click start do you know the start effect in vista ... for my brother its better then that its similar but a UbuntU touch with it.14:52
Housethis is my Kubuntu sigma http://www.spottersphoto.com/uploads/6250eef38f.jpg :(14:53
sigmahouse: all that should pitch up in kde4 sooner or later - hav u tested it? they have already re-designed the k-menu14:53
snarksterhouse that looks good14:53
HouseGOOD?!?!?!? what??14:53
Houseyou got to be kidding lo14:54
snarksterno Im not14:54
snarksterbetter than windblows14:54
DreadKnightHouse: i hate desktop icons... kde4 will bring new usability to desktop with plasma... just use katapult (alt + space)14:54
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Housesnarkster: then you should try ubuntu maybe ? or maybe see some UbuntU screenshots before considering whats good14:54
sigmahouse: whats wrong with that? its nice and clean14:54
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Housewhats katapult???14:54
snarksterhouse no one is forcing you to use kde.. switch to gnome if you want.14:54
DreadKnightHouse: press alt + space and type ;)14:55
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HouseKubuntu RockZ~!14:55
sigmasnarkster has a point!14:55
DreadKnightkatapult is addictive ;)14:55
HouseDreadKnight: is theyr katapult for ubuntu gnome?14:55
sigmabut yes i like kde apps way better than gnome14:55
snarksteri tried alt-space and it opens a window sub context menu14:55
DreadKnightalso, gnome will have GNOME Do (which is way nicer than katapult so far.. way better than deskbar applet, but not yet stable/included)14:56
sigmadreadknight: how do i use katapult?14:56
DreadKnightsigma: press alt + space and type in amarok... then again.. and type in a song name... etc ;)14:56
Housesigma: im for linux rather then windows but i hear KDE is the easiest so im for Kubuntu but the way to set up things the instructions forexample to make a great kicker a great panel a great look installing the compizicon and having the icons the editing perfect needs focus and a long way to complete such task14:57
Riddell** PyKDE/Qt tutorial starting in a couple of minutes in #kubuntu-devel14:57
pastrywhats the best all-round player? that will play both music and videos? and has a playlist? for permanent desktop use?14:57
DreadKnightgnome do http://do.davebsd.com/ check out the about page (video demostration)14:57
fzydfwhat's the point of katapult when you have Alt-F2?14:58
sigmathat is pretty addictive! lol, but a bit too much effort 4me14:58
newuserWill someone please help me with this sound issue,,,  I have found a website http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com  that deals with 6 steps to solve my problem with my toshiba satellite...  I have downloaded the files nessasary to complete the instal but am STUCK on moving the files to the correct directory.. It is telling me I dont have permission to do this.. I need some help l\]\14:58
Housesigma: and for gnome they built up packages which does all that in 1/2 sec drag and drop . i think the easy must be for Kubuntu rather then Gnome , maybe the builder's have missed the K before working on the projct he3h314:58
DreadKnightfzydf: katapult is way nicer14:58
DreadKnightfzydf: alt+f2 doesn't even have autocompletion so far in kubuntu :(14:58
snarksterhmm katapult does nothing for me14:58
pastryi just ran katapult and nothing happens14:58
fzydfI can't even run xterm from katapult... ?14:59
pastryother than the splash screen14:59
sigmasnarkster u need to start the app first - on the k-menu14:59
snarksterdid that14:59
DreadKnightpastry: it's not on splash screen man... you need to type in stuff14:59
DreadKnightkatapult starts automaticaly... you only need to press alt + space and type in..14:59
Housesigma: you read my previouse posts?>15:00
pastryoh lol15:00
DreadKnighthe left xD15:00
pastryi see15:00
snarksterthats what Im saying alt-space only bring up the windows sub contect menu from the left corner15:00
DreadKnightkatapult is very addictive, beware xD15:00
snarksteri press alt-space and nothing appears when im on the dekstop15:00
fzydfkonsole works but not xterm... is there some kind of katapult registry you need to use?15:00
Housedamn katapult knows my hidden files aswel15:01
DreadKnightyou can press alt+space and ctrl + c for menu (config etc)15:01
pastrymy previous q...15:01
pastrywhats the best all-round player? that will play both music and videos? and has a playlist? for permanent desktop use? preferrably looks nice and sleek. doesnt have to15:01
snarksterdoes nothing15:01
DreadKnightpastry: give kaffeine (from kde) a try15:01
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wolfgerPyKDE and Packaging 101 got switched. When did that happen?15:03
Housesigma how to log in as root kdesudo nautilus?15:03
nosrednaekimwolfger: dunno, but there is a new schedule.15:04
Houseany ideas how to log in as root15:04
stdin!root | House15:04
ubotuHouse: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo15:04
nosrednaekimHouse: "sudo -i"15:04
newuserhow do I gain permission15:05
DreadKnighthouse: in dolphin right click folder and click open as root is that's what you mean15:05
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: ask nicely15:05
newusersorry sorry sorry....I am new to this and it is getting really frustrating15:05
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: that was a joke15:06
Daisuke_Laptopwhat kind of permission were you talking about?15:06
newusermy comment unfortunetly was not15:06
pastrymy sound quality is so crap15:06
Daisuke_Laptopfile permissions, root privileges, etc15:06
newuserI cant find anyone to hellp me15:06
HouseDreadKnight: i want to copy and paste somehting to my windows drive but i cant it says hal storage fixed mount all options refused UID 100115:06
pastryand i have a sound card :/15:06
fzydfDreadKnight: I tried going into the config thing for the programs and unchecked all the boxes but it still won't work for xterm15:06
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: this is a bad time of day for helpers around here15:06
newuseroh boy15:06
newuserjust my luck15:06
DreadKnightHouse: you have dolphin right?15:07
snarksternah ill see what i can do15:07
Daisuke_Laptopbut, perhaps i can help15:07
snarksterwhat do you need newuser15:07
Jyzygzel-how do you mount windows partitions+15:07
newuserI have a sound issue with my toshiba satellite a205\15:07
cheguevaradoes http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/kubuntu-tutorials-day/ load for anyone15:07
newuserI also found the website with 6 steps to fix it15:07
newuserI am stuck on step 3 moving the files to the right dir15:08
fzydfcheguevara: no15:08
Houseyes DreadKnight ?15:08
spitfirecan someone help with installing themes?15:08
DreadKnightHouse: browse the drive with dolphin and right click inside and choose open as root15:08
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: can you link to the site you're using?15:08
newuserhttp://taufanlubis.wordpress.com      search for so sound toshiba a205-s470715:09
nosrednaekimnewuser: ah, permission denied? run it with a prefix of "sudo", i.e. "sudo commandname"15:09
Houseyou know i love Kubuntu i just want a way to change the look of it to look slicker then the default15:09
Daisuke_Laptopoh...  i wonder something...  you're compiling alsa, aren't you?15:09
wolfgerFirefox is not loading those first 3 URLs15:09
newuserI tried the sudo command and it didnt work15:09
newuserpolitely of course:)15:09
nosrednaekimnewuser: what command are you trying to execute?15:10
TheFishyI keep getting this error15:10
TheFishyThe following packages have been kept back:15:10
TheFishy  kcontrol kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-data kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-dev kdepimlibs5 kdepimlibs5-dev15:10
TheFishy  kdesktop kdm kfind konqueror python-qt415:10
Housethanks DreadKnight ,but what about kubuntu  look :/15:10
TheFishywhen trying to upgrade15:10
TheFishyhow do i fix this?15:10
newusersudo cp15:10
DreadKnightHouse: well, new to kubuntu/kde myself.. so i like the look so far xD i consider gnome ugly now :D15:11
BluesKajHowdy folks  : )15:11
newusersudo cp /usr/src/alsa/alsa-*15:11
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: cp /downloads/alsa-*15:11
DreadKnightHouse: 11 january i think and we'll run kde4 :)15:11
newuserwell...  its not there...  let me try something15:11
stdinTheFishy: use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"15:12
HouseDreadKnight: i know its ugly for the default15:12
Housebut ubuntu looks slick if you want to see how it can be customized DreadKnight15:12
DreadKnightHouse: i made nice customizations myself on gnome :)15:12
DreadKnighttry out AWN15:12
HouseDreadKnight: to look like a GOD System?15:13
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newuserI get cp missing destination file operand after /~/downloads/alsa-*15:13
HouseDreadKnight: i wish i know how kubuntu installation of themes work becaues i try and try it refuses ... i hope they fix such problem for the people15:13
nosrednaekimnewuser: you're not telling it where to copy it to.15:13
DreadKnightHouse: never tried to install a theme... :\15:13
TheFishystdin: after this upgrade i should have KDE4 in my session list now right?15:13
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: that's the weird thing15:13
Daisuke_Laptopit actually says that in the howto15:14
HouseDreadKnight: thanks for helping :( i gtg but thanks anyways to all .. give a try www.kde-look,org15:14
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: hmmm bad howto.15:14
DreadKnightTheFishy: i'm not sure kde4 got included in kubuntu 8.04 yet15:14
newuserok... let me try again15:14
HouseDreadKnight: www.kde-look.org15:14
nosrednaekimTheFishy: yes, kde4 is in the hardy repositories15:14
stdinTheFishy: if you installed the packages it says, yes15:14
DreadKnightHouse: i will, but usually like to use default or what i get :) anyway ...15:14
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/fix-no-sound-for-ubuntu-in-toshiba-satellite-a205-s4707/15:14
Househehe \=) cia's all15:15
DreadKnightwho tried kde4? i wanted to try with virtualbox but it gets stuck...15:15
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: yeah.... I'm kinda busy listening to riddell right now <_<15:15
Daisuke_Laptopwhy virtualbox?15:15
Daisuke_Laptopjust install it15:15
pastryhow do i set the buffer of the video in kaffiene? its got a fairly slow cpu and the picture kinda lags behind15:15
Daisuke_Laptopit's still not that spectacular though15:15
DreadKnightDaisuke_Laptop: seems i got some kde4 packages in adept..15:15
newuserthe files are in /home/downloads     and need to go to /usr/src/alsa   how would I code it?15:15
TheFishyDreadKnight: I am running linux mint15:15
fzydfIs it possible to use kde with a different window manager?15:16
DreadKnightTheFishy: what are you doing over here man? :D15:16
DreadKnightfzydf: kde4 will proabably work on top of windows15:16
* TheFishy sighs cause the mint channel sucks and i am using the kde version of mint15:16
Daisuke_Laptopthey're probably in /~/downloads (that adds your username to home)15:16
DreadKnightTheFishy: linuxmint defaults to gnome?15:16
TheFishyDreadKnight: no...15:17
DrUnKnMuNkYDreadKnight: running it right now. it's stable enough. plasma's not perfect. if you can wait i'd wait till the full release unless oyu don't mind using the svn daily builds15:17
fzydfDreadKnight: you mean like Microsoft? cuz I meant under Linux.15:17
Daisuke_Laptopso...  sudo cp ~/downloads/alsa-* /usr/src/alsa/15:17
newuserok  ill try that15:17
TheFishyDreadKnight: How do u run kde4 on windows? like VM or like On on windows... instead of w/e DE it uses15:17
Daisuke_Laptopyou don't need the leading slash before ~, as that already includes it15:17
DreadKnightfzydf: yeah... pretty much all qt4 applications will get ported15:17
newuserdo I need to be in the alsa dir in term or does it matter]15:17
Daisuke_Laptopfor this it doesn't matter :)15:18
DreadKnightTheFishy: not right now, for example amarok 2.0 will be cross-platform15:18
Daisuke_Laptopthat's where the howto writer screwed up15:18
stdincheguevara: i386 version seems to be still building for hardy15:18
DreadKnightDrUnKnMuNkY: i need some help with that man :)15:18
cheguevarastdin, yeah seems like it15:18
DrUnKnMuNkYDreadKnight: me too. someone just pointed me here: http://techbase.kde.org15:19
fzydfmmm. is it possible to use like say... twm or something with kde? or is that a silly question?15:19
cheguevarastdin: lets blame Hobbsee :P15:19
nosrednaekimfzydf: with kde apps, yes15:19
DreadKnightDrUnKnMuNkY: will check it out15:19
fzydfnosrednaekim: is that the same thing as "running kde" then? It's just all about the the program libraries using what they need to?15:20
newusercannot start /downloads/alsa-*  No such file or directory15:20
DrUnKnMuNkYDreadKnight:  it's a lot better than rc1 for sure. i used that once then didn't touch it again till rc2 came out. it's definitely almost ready now15:20
Daisuke_Laptopnot /downloads, ~/downloads15:20
DreadKnightDrUnKnMuNkY: i haven15:20
newuserI tried that just now,,,  got the same thing\15:21
DreadKnightt managed to run any kde4 versions so far... heh..15:21
TheFishystdin: I got theses errors when upgrading the way u said too15:21
TheFishyErrors were encountered while processing:15:21
TheFishy /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb15:21
TheFishy /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb15:21
TheFishy /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_i386.deb15:21
TheFishy /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb15:21
TheFishyE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)15:21
stdinTheFishy: use pastebin to show15:21
newuserfiles are on my desktop as well as in the download dir\15:21
stdin!paste > TheFishy15:21
Daisuke_Laptopcd to the directory where the downloads are15:21
Daisuke_Laptopthat makes it easy15:22
TheFishyoops sorry15:22
Daisuke_Laptop!brokenkde4 > TheFishy15:22
TheFishyI will pastebin nes time15:22
newuseryea  EASY for u 2 say...  lol15:22
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: sudo cp ~/Desktop/alsa-* /usr/src/alsa/15:22
Daisuke_Laptopremember the capital D15:23
Daisuke_Laptopcase sensitivity can be a pain sometimes15:23
DreadKnightany blender users around here?15:23
Daisuke_Laptopi've been known to make the occasional smoothie or frozen margarita, yes15:24
jembougeHi guys15:24
TheFishymore errors15:24
newuserlook at that,,,, I accually got somewhere.. Ok now that there where they need to be I need to get a program that I dont know what to do with it is called bunzip2 and it isnt in my synaptic manager search15:25
jembougeanyone knows how to "unlock" apt/adept/synaptic ... ?     they say they can't install stuff because some file can't be read15:25
nosrednaekimDreadKnight: please stop spamming the -devel channel.15:25
Daisuke_Laptopmmmkay, the guy that wrote this howto made a large number of assumptions that he shouldn't have15:26
newuserare you talking to me  I hope15:26
mith__hi all! how can i fix my apt?15:26
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:26
Daisuke_Laptopso, let's see if we can get through this :)15:26
stdinTheFishy: use "sudo aptitude remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') kde4base kde4base-dev kdebase-bin-kde3+"15:26
newuserOH THANK U15:26
ArelisGuys, i'm trying to run KDE 4 but i get this message: bash: startkde: command not found15:26
nosrednaekimArelis: install kdebase-runtime15:27
LjLnosrednaekim: so the idea is that one doesn't write KDE applications anymore (at least in Python), just Qt ones...?!15:27
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: type 'bunzip2' at a terminal and see what message you get - that's one of those little utilities that should be installed by default15:27
Arelisnosrednaekim: already installed15:27
nosrednaekimLjL: pretty much...15:27
Arelisnosrednaekim: do i have to set a kind of path?15:27
newuserwrong comp  wooops15:27
* LjL likes this less and less15:27
newuserI wont read compressed data from a terminal15:28
Daisuke_Laptopthat means it's there15:28
nosrednaekimArelis: its in /usr/lib/kde4/bin15:28
Daisuke_Laptopcd to the /usr/src/alsa directory15:28
Daisuke_Laptopand you can start from: taufanlubis@toshiba:/usr/src/alsa$ sudo bunzip2 alsa-driver-1.0.15.tar.bz215:29
newuserstart from /usr right?15:29
Daisuke_Laptopstart from /usr/src/alsa15:29
mith__can anybody help me?15:30
newuserhahaha   I cant believe I asked that   trying now15:30
Daisuke_Laptopinstead of using su root, use sudo -s15:30
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser ^15:30
newuserok,,, I think it did something15:31
newuserjust went back to cursur15:31
Daisuke_Laptopthat was the...  bunzip?  or the tar?15:31
Daisuke_Laptopor are you past those15:31
TheFishystdin: will u walk my through the kde4 install step by step please?15:32
mith__if i try to install any package, adept gives me this message:"some packages couldn't installed" but the installed programs are in their place and works well15:32
stdinTheFishy: after you ran that command I gave, just run "sudo apt-get install kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime"15:32
Daisuke_Laptopif it just went back to the cursor, you can move onto the next step, which is to expand the tarball (the tar command line he gives)15:32
TheFishystdin: thats it?15:33
stdinTheFishy: yes15:33
stdinTheFishy: make sure you've ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first though15:34
newuserok   it sugests to use root not sudo    how to access root15:34
stdinnewuser: use "sudo -i"15:34
newuserI am in also driver15:34
newuserI got no such file or directory???15:35
stdinnewuser: after you "sudo -i" you need to cd to the directory again15:36
newuserusr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.15$ su root15:36
mith__if i try to install any package, adept gives me this message:"some packages couldn't installed" but the installed programs are in their place and works well...can anybody help me?15:36
stdinnewuser: and don't "su"15:36
newuserwoops...lol  Im learning the hard way15:36
Daisuke_Laptopskip the su root line15:36
Daisuke_Laptopthat's what i was talking about15:36
W8TAHi accidently removed my K menu how do i get it back15:36
Daisuke_Laptopstdin: i want to beat the guy that wrote this howto with a shovel15:36
nosrednaekimW8TAH: =right click on panel->add applet->kmneu15:36
Daisuke_Laptopoh, and for the ./configure line15:37
Daisuke_Laptopreplace ; with &&15:37
nosrednaekimW8TAH: NP15:37
Daisuke_Laptophe seems excited15:38
TheFishystdin: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first before the install command?15:38
cheguevaranixternal, whats the name of that book again u were saying is great earlier on?15:38
mith__help me please!15:38
newuserstill get no such filee    on         /usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver15:38
stdinTheFishy: yes, you need to make sure you have the updated kdebase packages15:38
TheFishyok well i didn't do that15:39
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.1515:39
nosrednaekimmith__: right now is NOT a good time for help, come back later today15:39
TheFishybut i just ran it and it said i didn't need anything15:39
TheFishywill it still  work?15:39
stdinTheFishy: that's ok then15:39
newuserdid that just now15:39
TheFishyok brb restarting X again15:39
newuser.configure is next?15:39
Daisuke_Laptopmith__: at a !terminal , try 'sudo apt-get -f install'15:39
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: i'm going to go ahead and fix his lines :)15:40
newusercool of U15:40
Daisuke_Laptop./configure –with-cards=hda-intel –with-sequencer=yes && make && make install15:40
newuserall of that that way right?15:40
Daisuke_Laptopyou can just copy and paste the entire thing, including the period at the beginning15:41
newusertwo computers  cant15:41
Daisuke_Laptopwell then, yes, exactly like that :)15:41
LjLstdin, it seems that my latest kde4 rc2 installation has resulted in some interesting things... such as the fact that when i click on an HTTP link in Konversation (didn't try other apps yet), i get an "Open With" dialog with "Type: text/html-kde4", (and if i click on the "Open With" button, i get an empty Konqueror window, and the dialog comes up again)15:41
pastryis it possible to forward all the sounds from my windows computer through lan to my kubuntu computer, which has the sound system installed to it?15:41
newuserworkin it15:41
Daisuke_Laptopi expect a couple possibilities: gcc can't create executables15:42
Daisuke_Laptopor success :)15:42
stdinLjL: hmm, that's a bit odd15:42
newuserno such file15:43
newuseru forgot the third poss15:43
stdinLjL: it may be because the .desktop files for the kde4 apps were slightly messed up (not sure if the fix is in gutsy PPA get)15:43
ErtainHello everyone.  At the top of my screen there's these little skinny lines.  They overlap the menubar.15:43
ErtainIf anybody wants I can show you a screenshot.15:43
newuseri suspect I am in the wrong dir?15:43
Daisuke_Laptoppastebin the results of ls /usr/bin/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.15 for me15:43
jussi01stdin: I find it odd that on kde 4 if you lock the screen your normal root pasword will not let let you log bback on...15:43
mith__thx it works15:44
Daisuke_Laptopwait, can't15:44
nosrednaekimjussi01: its a known bug/problem15:44
jussi01nosrednaekim: ahh.. kk then...15:44
stdinjussi01: why would root be able to unlock it? unless root is running the kde session (which is not good)15:44
nosrednaekimstdin: nothing can unlock it.15:44
jussi01stdin: s/root/user15:44
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: sudo apt-get install build-essential15:44
nosrednaekimalthough I THINK there was a fix on theetchbase page15:45
Daisuke_Laptopthat should get us through this next part :)15:45
nosrednaekim* the techbase15:45
stdinjussi01: that's more like it, but as nosrednaekim said it's an upstream issue15:45
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: nice typo though, i thought it was a debian site :)15:45
Daisuke_Laptopalready installed?15:45
newuseralready installed newest    no changeds15:45
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: heh :D15:46
Daisuke_Laptopwhat directory does it say you're in?15:46
TheFishystdin: So i tried to launch into kde4 the screen shows my desktop wallpaper, turns black and goes back into login15:46
newuseras root15:46
smookerhi :)15:46
Daisuke_Laptopcd alsa-driver-1.0.1515:46
TheFishystdin: Then I launched KDE 3.5 and my theme was all messed up15:46
TheFishyNow kde 3.5 is back to normal but what do i do about kde415:47
DreadKnightcan i have kde4 separated from kde3.5 as a different session.. ?15:47
nosrednaekimDreadKnight: certainly15:47
Daisuke_Laptopnow hit up until you get to that configure line i pasted earlier, and hit enter15:47
Daisuke_Laptop(command history is so nice)15:47
newuserok  previously command is now in use and smokin the sys15:47
stdinTheFishy: try running it in Xephyr (instructions are on the announcement page)15:48
newuserso after we mv to step 4?15:48
Daisuke_Laptopyes we do :)15:48
Daisuke_Laptopassuming the configure, make, and make install are working properly15:49
newuserhacking can be so much fun      especially if you dont know what your doing  :)15:49
Daisuke_Laptopno reason they shouldn't be :)15:49
newuserok its done15:49
Daisuke_Laptopany error messages at all?15:49
PJC121having a problem opening Konqueror in KDE4 from the livecd, is it a known bug?15:50
newuserthe mixer channels for the alsa are muted by default15:50
Daisuke_Laptopoh wow...  if that's the only error you got, we're ready for step 415:50
Daisuke_Laptopchmod a+rw /dev/dsp /dev/mixer /dev/sequencer15:51
newuserjust did the ls15:51
newuserdsp mixer and dev/sequencer all there15:51
Daisuke_Laptopgo ahead and do the chmod line, should work exactly as he has it15:51
newuserok just went immediatly to curser in the same dir15:52
Daisuke_Laptopstep 5 :)15:53
Daisuke_Laptopthose commands should work if you enter them exactly as entered :)15:53
newuserbunzip cant open15:54
TheFishystdin: that page isn't shown the the topic anymore what is it?15:55
Daisuke_Laptopand there's a space between cd and ..15:55
newuserok misses a step.. the  ..15:55
Daisuke_Laptopcd .. takes you up one directory15:55
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newuserneed to get back to alsa driver I think15:56
Daisuke_Laptopjust /usr/bin/alsa15:56
Daisuke_Laptopthat's /usr/src/alsa15:56
newuserno such file or dir15:56
Daisuke_Laptopno /usr/src/alsa ?15:57
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stdinTheFishy: is is now15:57
Daisuke_Laptopcd /usr/src/alsa15:57
Daisuke_Laptopwe were just here installing things :)15:57
newusergot it I think...again it just went back to the dir15:58
Daisuke_Laptopcool, which is all you needed15:58
snarksterhi again. I just ran the kde4 live cd.. looks awesome. If i should install this live cd, can I still run my kde3 software? battle for wesnoth and such?15:58
Daisuke_Laptopbunzip2 alsa-lib-1.0.15.tar.bz15:58
Daisuke_Laptopbunzip2 alsa-lib-1.0.15.tar.bz215:58
nosrednaekimsnarkster: certainly15:58
newuserwhat about the cd alsa-lib15:59
PJC121snarkster: did you have any problems with konqueror?15:59
snarksterwill amarok still work as well or is there a new kde4 version15:59
Daisuke_Laptopthey again forgot a line15:59
newuserI get no such file or dir15:59
newuseroh boy15:59
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snarksteryes I did as Im wireless and live cd could not access my home drive to install the ndis stuff15:59
kingzarcan you get gnome stuff on a desktop of kde?15:59
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Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: after doing the bunzip2, do: tar -xf alsa-lib-1.0.15.tar15:59
nosrednaekimsnarkster: there is a kde4 version which is more-or-less broke, but kde3 amarok will work15:59
newuserin what dir?15:59
Daisuke_Laptopin the /usr/bin/alsa16:00
PJC121snarkster: ah, I was just wondering as the ap doesnt open at all for me, crashes straight back to the desktop16:00
Daisuke_Laptopthis is before you cd into alsa-lib-1.0.1516:00
PJC121thanks though :)16:00
snarksterdoes amarok for kde4 look any different?16:00
Riddell** bug triage tutorial in #kubuntu-devel starting now16:00
newusersame results as before16:00
Daisuke_Laptopexpanded a bunch of files?16:01
newuserjust goes back to cursor16:01
DreadKnightamarok 2.0 will follow soon, with redesigned GUI16:01
TheFishy_ok so i ran it...16:01
Daisuke_Laptopcd alsa-lib-1.0.1516:01
TheFishy_it brought up kde 3.5 when i typed startkde16:01
johnnot necessarily on topic - what's the mem/cpu utilization for amarok vs xmms?16:01
snarksterawesome, but if memory serves this is only RC2 so things will change when final comes out correct?16:01
nosrednaekimsnarkster: yeah,16:01
newuserno such file16:02
nosrednaekimjohn: amarok uses far more of both16:02
DreadKnightisn't it rc1?16:02
snarksterok last question.. has anyone in here switched fully to kde4 rc2?16:02
nosrednaekimDreadKnight: RC2 was released two days ago16:02
TheFishyand then it crashed16:02
nosrednaekimsnarkster: yes16:02
nosrednaekimsnarkster: me16:02
newuserok im there   I put a / before alsa16:02
TheFishyhow do i version my KDE?16:02
snarksternosrednaekim: any regrets?16:02
DreadKnightnosrednaekim: i was off town xD just came back home for the kubuntu tutorial day... nice news man :)16:02
johnthat's what i thought - just started using amarok on 7.10 and love it though16:02
nosrednaekimsnarkster: not in RC2!16:02
nosrednaekimjohn: I think its worth it :D16:03
DreadKnightstart using katapult people! alt + space16:03
snarksteramarok is the stuff og the gods. :)16:03
TheFishyDreadKnight: do u know how i can get the version of my kde16:03
snarksterkatapult still doesnt work16:03
stdinTheFishy: instead of "startkde" use "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde"16:03
wolfgereverything I need to know about triage I learned from M*A*S*H :-)16:03
TheFishyoh ok ty16:03
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: you're where exactly?16:03
newuserwow.....  cannot open:  No such file or directory   tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting nnow16:04
roman_по русски кто поможет?16:04
nosrednaekimok.. bye every one!16:04
Daisuke_Laptop!ru | roman_16:04
uboturoman_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke16:04
DreadKnightTheFishy: not sure, try right clicking on the menu bar and then "about kde"16:04
Daisuke_Laptopoh, you're already there :)16:04
Daisuke_Laptopdo: ./configure && make && make install16:05
TheFishyXephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?16:05
TheFishy[1]+  Exit 1                  Xephyr :116:05
fmohi there, I would like to create an install of Kubuntu but just with Kde4 bits to play with the new libs, I don't want a livecd, unless there is a way to install it to disk16:05
snarksterfmo there is away to install it from live cd16:05
newuserYEA baby!!16:05
kingzarwhat's the best dock software?16:05
snarksterI just downloaded it and am planning on installing it shortly16:05
newuserhahaha    smokin again16:05
kingzarkooldock or awn sorry16:06
stdinTheFishy: it's because you changed DISPLAY before, just add "export DISPLAY=:0;" before "Xephyr :1"16:06
* Daisuke_Laptop chuckles16:06
Daisuke_Laptopit's nice when things work isn't it :)16:06
newuseroh yea16:06
DreadKnightkingzar: awn16:06
fmoI have the kde4rc2 livecd from Kubuntu website, is it possible to install it to disk then?16:06
Daisuke_Laptoplook at the bright side16:06
newuseryou really know your stuff16:06
snarksterfmo: yes16:06
Daisuke_Laptopthe next step is just like this one16:06
kingzarthanks DreadKnight16:06
fmosnarkster: how?16:07
newuserI think it is also the last16:07
Daisuke_Laptopi've only been using it for a little over a year16:07
snarksteri clicked on someting and it began the install16:07
kingzaris it possible to acces a external harddisk on ntfs?!16:07
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE16:07
newuserI read above that I will not need to mess with the kernal\16:07
snarksterfmo: just load the cd up and look round abit.. youll find it16:07
newusera very efficent year16:07
Daisuke_Laptopyou won't need to mess with the kernel, but you will need to load the modules :)16:07
DreadKnightsearch for ntfs in your adept / add/remove thingy16:07
newuserok done16:07
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:08
Daisuke_Laptopk: i'm going to give you the exact commands in a PM16:08
Taggnostri was trying to install kubuntu on a virtualbox virtual machine but i get an error when i create the partition, what settings should i use to create them?16:08
fmosnarkster: I'm doing it as we speak16:08
stdinntfs-3g is pre-installed in feisty+16:08
newuserhow to get in a pm?16:08
snarksterfmo: lucky.. Im wireless so Ill have to move intot he other room16:08
DreadKnightprivate massages.. listed like channels16:08
newuserlooks like the computer has frozen!!!16:08
Riddelllimac: search for riddell16:08
limacin planet.kde.org?16:08
newuserno it hasnt... Im good16:08
Riddelllimac: yes16:09
limacRiddell: hold on a sec! :)16:09
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: get those?16:09
limacRiddell: found it, then?16:10
lousygaruahello, does anyone really use konquer on the kde world? should i check my CSS's on kde as well?16:10
Taggnostrshould i set the swap to primary o logical? beginning or end? mount point?16:10
snarksterid love to set firefox as my default but unlike other distros this one doesnt ask that question16:10
TheFishystdin: it gives me the error that kde is already running16:11
stdinlousygarua: many, many people do. and if your CSS is actually valid to a standard it will work in konqueror16:11
Daisuke_Laptopa lot of people use konqueror, and it's a pretty well standards compliant browser.  every one has its own quirks, of course16:11
stdinTheFishy: close Xephyr and the shell, then try again16:11
Daisuke_Laptopi think i lost newuser16:11
BluesKajTaggnostr, logical/end16:11
Taggnostrwithout mount point?16:11
TheFishyall it did now is run a bunch of crap really fast16:11
TheFishythen exit16:12
lousygaruastdin: i got a very valid xhtml+css that works good on ff+opera. on konquer it looks good but not perfect, i'll dig into it later probably some silly issue16:12
jussi01stdin: are you cerain about preinstallation in feisty? I thought it was in the repos and not preinstalled16:12
Daisuke_Laptopah, there you are16:12
newuseru didnt   the sys is smokin again16:12
stdinjussi01: yep, as of feisty it is pre-installed16:12
TheFishystdin: I will just use it when it was stable... how do i erase everything now...16:12
BluesKajswap doesn't need mountpoint16:12
Daisuke_Laptopand *now* we are getting close to the end :)16:12
* jussi01 goes to edit the page about ntfs-3g on the wiki...16:12
fmoSnarkster: Found it, thx a lot :)16:13
newuserits done and back to curser16:13
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Taggnostrwhat about the dimension? the virtual machine has 512mb of ram and 10gb of hard disk16:13
snarksterfmo: come back here when your done and let me know if everything works..16:13
Daisuke_Laptopbad news, the next couple steps are going to require a lot of typing16:13
stdinTheFishy: "sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 kde4base-data kde4libs-data"16:14
newuserits ok16:14
newuserso much for your tip..HAHAHA16:14
limacRiddell: Then wat, after I found you name?16:14
BluesKajoh virtual machine .. sorry I'm not well versed in that .. I just dual boot when necessary16:14
Riddelllimac: then check back tomorrow when I'll have posted where we put the logs16:14
Riddellthey'll be linked from the KubuntuTutorialsDay page too16:14
fmosnarkster: thx, I'll probably need help to try to get Koffice and Amorok from svn :)16:14
limacRiddell: thx dude for ur help! :P ;)16:15
Taggnostrit should be the same, isn't it?16:15
BluesKajnewuser , you din't have alsa installed by default ?16:15
snarksterfmo: i hear that amarok for kde4 doesnt work.. stick to kde3 version of amarok16:15
TheFishystdin: thank you for all your help, you are a great person and have wonderful people skills... thank you again and have a nice day...16:15
stdinbye TheFishy16:15
newuserBlueKaj  I guess not16:15
Daisuke_LaptopBluesKaj: he did, BUT16:15
fmosnarkster: it's just for testing and maybe start a bit of development on Kde416:15
TheFishystdin: bye.16:16
Daisuke_Laptopand the chipset in the laptop he bought isn't supported in anything earlier than 1.0.15rc216:16
* BluesKaj waits for the but ....16:16
newuserRIGHT!  i rem gettin that the other day16:16
Marcio-TorresPessoal como eu edito o xorg.conf usando o kate   ?16:16
bazhang!es | Marcio-Torres16:16
ubotuMarcio-Torres: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:16
Daisuke_Laptopbazhang: portugese, actually, but close :)16:17
bazhangoops sorry Marcio-Torres16:17
Daisuke_Laptop(i wouldn't have known if he weren't already on kubuntu-br)16:17
pastrywhen i try to share a file from kubuntu, it sais "SMB and NFX servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed." how do i go about installing these "SMB and NFS servers"?16:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:17
pastry*NFS, not NFX16:17
BluesKajMarcio-Torres, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg16:18
newuserhahahahaha   Im sitting here not knowing about the pm,,,,Time to make the dougnuts16:18
Daisuke_Laptopi'm putting the commands there to avoid flooding the channel :)16:18
lingardhow can i change the "workgroup" on kubuntu?16:19
snarksteredit the samba.conf file16:19
lingardi'll see if i can do that on my own :)16:20
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: are you in a working kde environment on the other computer?16:20
Daisuke_Laptoplingard: it's very well documented in the file, you'll be alright :)16:20
newuserYES    ok... I got alsamixer funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device16:21
newuserafter exit should I go to / dir?16:21
Daisuke_Laptopyou did all 4 modprobe lines?16:21
Daisuke_Laptopls -l /dev/dsp16:22
Daisuke_Laptopjust give me the string of letters at the beginning of the line16:22
Daisuke_Laptopshould be crw-rw-rw16:23
newuserim now back to the reg user dir16:23
newusercan we go private?16:23
Daisuke_Laptopyou'll have to register your nickname16:23
lingardit says i don't have write access16:23
newuserim not sure where i should be now16:23
lingardhow do i do it via the terminal?16:24
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: the where doesn't matter right now :)16:24
DreadKnightlingard: sudo -i16:24
snarksterive got a strange problem.. I migrated this computer from fedora8 (yuck) to Kubuntu but my other users dont have sound.. Only I do.16:24
snarksterhow do i fix that16:24
Daisuke_Laptopsnarkster: add them to the audio group16:25
snarksterah good thanks16:25
DreadKnightsnarkster: maybe from the sound settings? muted or minimum?16:25
DreadKnightaudio group sounds nice xD16:25
cheguevarajping dthacker16:25
lingardso it should just be sudo -i /etc/samba/smb.conf ?16:26
DreadKnightlingard: sudo -i is to start an administrative session... otherwise just use sudo16:26
snarkstersudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf16:26
stdindon't tell people to use vi...16:27
DreadKnightsnarkster: can you upload a screenshot of vi?16:27
lingardwhy couldn't it just be edit16:27
stdinuse nano16:27
snarksterhmm whats the matter with vi?16:27
DreadKnightif you upg ubuntu you don't get it installed.... just from new version cd install xD16:27
stdinsnarkster: for someone who's not used to it, a lot16:27
DreadKnighti used gedit all my ubuntu/gnome life xD16:27
dthackercheguevara: pong16:28
cheguevaradthacker: just got interesting in that bug 'cause that behaviour annoyed me also16:28
snarksterwell i understand your point, but vi is a common editor, and most linux users should know how to use it.  I didnt know nano was installed by default16:28
cheguevaraand the fact that since its in KDE4's dolphin makes it worse16:28
DreadKnighti love dolphin / kde xD16:29
DreadKnightand a while ago i was refering to KDE as "krap" :\16:29
dthackerI tested by selecting all files dir, then doing "sleep 15: touch foo" to watch when new file created16:29
cheguevarabut there's no point of the launchpad bug it needs to be upstreamed16:29
snarksterdolphin isnt bad, but isnt it surpurfilous?16:29
DreadKnightsnarkster: what do you mean?16:29
cheguevarayeah dthacker i just did the same16:29
cheguevarait refreshes and selection is gone16:29
snarksterkonqueror works as a file browser as well.16:30
snarksterwhat is the difference16:30
SSJ_GZsnarkster: Many people utterly despise Konqueror and refuse to use it.  No accounting for taste, I guess, but there we go :)16:30
snarkstergood point16:30
stdinsnarkster: in kde4 konquror used the dolphin-part for file management, so using konqueror as a file manager is surpurfilous16:30
snarksterah.. well whatever it works16:31
DreadKnightwell, liked the idea of universal manager/viewer when started to use kubuntu, but i love dolphin...16:31
lingardit still says i'm on the mshome network16:31
DreadKnightokular will also be great16:31
snarksterlingard is there a mshome network in your house?16:32
lingardnot at all16:32
BluesKajSSJ_GZ, konq suffers abit in the eye candy dept and in my experience is slower than FF even with IPv6 disabled , but I still feel safer using it .16:32
cheguevaradthacker, question is does konq in kde 3 do the same thing?16:32
DreadKnightmy ISP links me in a network with all the pcs nearby16:32
snarksterlingard do sudo apt-get install smb4k16:32
dthackercheguevara: hmmm let me try....16:32
cheguevaradthacker, thx, cause i am on kde4 right now16:32
lingardalready installed16:33
snarkstersmb4k should allow you to see all smb networks and computers.16:33
lingardwhen going into remote places > samba shares > mshome   and it shows this machine16:33
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lingardit does16:33
snarksterthat means that your computer is the only one on the mshome network.16:33
lingardbut i'm unable to access shared files from remote machines16:34
lingardi changed the smb.conf to my home network16:34
snarksterif you edit the smb.conf file and change your network name and then restart smb youll change networks.  Of course Im old style and edit it by hand but im sure there is some admin tool in here that you can use.16:34
dthackercheguevara: no, konq keeps all the original files selected and shows foofoo.txt as unselected16:35
lingardhow do i restart it?16:35
snarksterlingard: youll need to restart smb then with service smb restart16:35
cheguevaradthacker, ah good, so we can push it as a regression :P16:35
snarksteropen konsole and type sudo service smb restart16:35
snarksterwow that didnt work16:36
dthackercheguevara: cool :D16:36
lingardsudo: service: command not found16:36
snarksterservice smb restartThe program 'service' can be found in the following packages: * debian-helper-scripts * sysvconfigTry: apt-get install <selected package>16:36
BluesKajsmb4k isn't necessary on gutsy , samba and konq work very well together16:37
Daisuke_Laptopnewuser: still with me?16:37
llutzlingard: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart16:38
snarksterhmm sorry i just came to kubuntu from fedora.. :( my bad16:38
lingardi came from windows :)16:39
dthackercheguevara: wanna show me how to get that bug to upstream?16:39
lingardthats sorted the workgroup change16:39
cheguevaraam thinking of the best way to do it atm16:39
johnllutz: that's how I do it but its also in system settings/network now -> 7.1016:39
cheguevara'cause just opening a bug on their bug tracker will probably get it burried16:40
lingardthough i still can't access the shared files remotely16:40
snarksterlingard: yup figured it would16:40
johnjust fiddle something and apply16:40
dthackercheguevara: ok, let me know, I'll be around for several hours watching tutorials16:40
snarksterlingard: you need to put your username and password there, windows security is stopping you16:40
llutzjohn: system-services don't have to be controlled by GUIs :) (imo)16:40
lingardi've put it in and it says login failed16:40
snarksterhmm Ive never had that problem, and I dont have a windblows machine to play with16:41
lingardtried it with the computer\user16:41
lingarddo i need to add access or a username somewhere?16:41
lingardon this machine16:42
newuseri was in the pm message16:43
newuserbut im here16:43
newuserso I cant access the mixer16:44
gilleshi, i'm having flash player problems on gutsy16:44
gillesit doesn't work with konqueror16:44
Dustmopgilles: downgrade it to a later version.16:45
Daisuke_Laptopheading back into pm to try and get alsamixer working16:45
llutzgilles: flash <9.0.48.xxx16:45
Jyzygzel-hey how do you get two displays working?16:46
Jyzygzel-was it xinerama?16:46
llutzJyzygzel-: what video-card?16:46
Jyzygzel-ATI X80016:46
jussi01Jyzygzel-: which graphics card?16:46
Jyzygzel-yea right? ;P16:46
jussi01Jyzygzel-: type aticonfig into a konsole - it will give you a help thing to tell you how to use it16:47
llutzgilles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63117816:47
Jyzygzel-should i first install the newest ati drivers?16:47
jussi01Jyzygzel-: yes - use the restricted manager16:48
jussi01!ati | Jyzygzel-16:48
ubotuJyzygzel-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:48
jussi01!dualhead | Jyzygzel-16:48
ubotuJyzygzel-: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama16:48
Jyzygzel-good good16:49
BluesKajgilles, konq works well on my setup , and I'm using kubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin-nonfree16:51
gillesit is installed but nothings plays16:51
llutzBluesKaj: manual installation of actual flash-version will break it16:51
BluesKajllutz, do you mean flashplugin-nonfree or the 'extras' ?16:52
newuserHello,,,,   Did I lose you Daisuke_Laptop16:52
llutzBluesKaj: flashplugin-nonfree16:52
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is on its way16:53
BluesKajodd llutz , that's how I got flash to work on my system on konq16:53
gillesubotu: no flash ?16:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about no flash ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:53
llutzBluesKaj: me too, but some time (before the broken package) ago16:54
jussi01!bot | gilles16:54
ubotugilles: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:54
Daisuke_Laptopnope, i'm still here, going back to the pm though16:54
Daisuke_Laptopmake sure you register your nickname and identify16:54
cheguevaraok dthacker i just talked to some ppl that are using kde 4 snapshot from couple of hours ago and he said he can't reproduce the behaviour16:54
cheguevaraitems stay selected16:55
newuserim in pm16:55
gilleshow to fix that16:55
newuserI cant register16:55
dthackercheguevara: hmmm.  can you or the others update the bug?   I'm16:56
dthackernot going to be on KDE4 anytime soon,16:56
dthacker'cos I'm a big chicken! :)16:56
abdullaDreadKnight, i heard something about similar katapult app for gnome what was the name Go ubunt?16:56
cheguevaradthacker, well next ubuntu release is still shipping wtih kde 4, which does make this a bug16:57
DreadKnightabdulla: GNOME Do16:57
gillesis gnash working fine ?16:57
abdullathanks :D16:57
cheguevaraanother story is if anyone is actually gonna bother fixing it, since the kde 3 dolphin is not developed any more16:57
dthackerya, I'd thought I'd confirm and see what happens.16:57
DreadKnightgilles: nope.... klash also is KDE specific..but no use to me so far :(16:58
cheguevaradolphin has a quiet high number of weir bugs that noone steps up to fix16:59
DreadKnightlike.. ?16:59
pastryneed help, my adept notifier keeps popping up everytime my x starts. i went to adept manager and disabled checking for updates. but whenever i restart the adept notifier always pops up as an ugly small window on the top corner of my screen, and i cant close it or minimise it16:59
jhutchins_wkpastry: You need to tell the notifier not to start on login.17:00
abdullaDreadKnight, GnomeDo is a freeloader for torrents that what it say17:01
abdullaDreadKnight, freeloader - A nice GNOME download manager supporting torrents17:01
abdullagnome-doc-tools - Tools, stylesheets and DTDs for GNOME.17:01
DreadKnightabdulla: wait a sec, searching for link17:01
jhutchins_wkpastry: Well, Try right clicking on it, try opening it and looking for config options, then try going in through the system menu and looking for starup programs configuration.17:01
DreadKnightabdulla: http://do.davebsd.com/17:01
jhutchins_wkpastry: Sorry I can't tell you the correct, actual method, but I'm a couple stages removed from my kubuntu box right now.17:02
egonwRiddell: thanx, very nice tutorial17:02
Riddell** Packaging tutorial in #kubuntu-devel now17:02
egonwRiddell: about bzr-svn17:02
DreadKnighti wonder what are we going to pack :(17:02
egonwRiddell: can I commit commits made with bzr using bzr-svn back into the SVN repos?17:02
Jyzygzel-how do i reconfigure my alsa?17:02
Jyzygzel-its not working for some reason17:02
Riddellegonw: yes, I believe so17:02
Riddellif you have commit rights of course17:03
Daisuke_Laptopi have to run for now, bit of an emergency17:03
egonwRiddell: ok, thanx, going to try that...17:03
egonwRiddell: git-svn allows that too, but bzr has the same syntax... lower chance of messing up :)17:03
abdullathank you very much DreadKnight17:03
BluesKajJyzygzel-, have you checked 'alsamixer' in the konsole ?17:04
Jyzygzel-No mixer elems found17:04
DreadKnightabdulla: :)17:04
Riddellegonw: but unlike git, bzr is usable :)17:04
BluesKajJyzygzel-, do you have a volume ctrl/speaker icon in the panel ?17:05
fzydfhow can I change my window manager? kubuntu 6.0617:05
brockscottubuntu rules!!!!!!17:05
fzydfkubuntu = ubuntu + k17:06
Jyzygzel-BluesKaj KMix?17:06
fzydfTaggnostr: you heard me.17:07
BluesKajJyzygzel-, yes17:07
newuserOMG NO!!!!!17:08
SudoKingHi, how can I change the default system sounds on Kubuntu?17:08
SudoKing!caps | newuser17:08
ubotunewuser: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.17:08
newuserMy support guy has left me at the one yard line....17:08
Taggnostri just installed kubuntu, and it seems that some program miss. when i installed kde on ubuntu it also installed lot of programs, should i do something to add them?17:09
newuserI was working with Daisuke for over 2 hrs and we are almost done and he had to leave17:09
SudoKinghow do I change the system sounds?17:09
BluesKajJyzygzel-, check adept or synaptic whether alsa-base and alsa-utils are installed17:09
newusercan someone help me register the alsamixer that was to be the final step but i was getting an error mess.17:09
Jyzygzel-they are17:10
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go2dellRiddell:  I can't thank you enough for the intro to bzr.  After your intro I'll probably be using it for almost all my (non-Kubuntu-related... woops!) projects.17:11
BluesKajJyzygzel-, ok try looking for your soundcard ,in the konsole: cat /proc/asound/cards17:11
newuserDoes anyone know how to register the alsamixer?17:11
Riddellgo2dell: great17:12
BluesKajnewuser, one doesn't register alsamixer17:12
Jyzygzel-BluesKaj i see something17:12
Jyzygzel-im not sure if its the one17:12
BluesKajnewuser , try using adept or synaptic to install it17:12
Jyzygzel-NVidia CK80417:12
Jyzygzel-NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at 0xd2003000, irq 22517:12
SudoKinganyone know how to change the system sound?17:13
Jyzygzel-i think it might be17:13
Jyzygzel-0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)17:13
Jyzygzel-definetly its that17:13
newuseroh boy... Daisuke_laptop and I spent the last 2 hrs installing alsa 1.0.15 and he said to       /nickserv register password email17:13
newuserbut then had to leave......\\17:13
Riddellmzungu: oh you can or will soon be able to host private branched on launchpad (in return for money)17:13
BluesKajok Jyzygzel- , sudo asoundconf set-default-card "NVidia CK804"17:14
Jyzygzel-BlueDevil are you sure that its not [CK80417:14
mzunguRiddell, lol - thanks!17:14
Jyzygzel-as the cards file said17:14
newuserwe used the term17:14
newuserterminal window17:15
BluesKajnewuser,/nickserv register password email has to do with registering your nick on frenode, it has nothing to do with alsa17:16
newuseroh boy...  That was what he said to do.. I am downloadingit now...17:16
k_williamRiddell: i've got a bzr/launchpad question17:16
BluesKajJyzygzel-, try relogging in after making the soundcard changes17:17
newuseralsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device     Do I reboot after installing?17:17
Jyzygzel-as in ctrl+alt+backspace?17:17
newuseror do I need to be in a certain directory?17:18
BluesKajJyzygzel-, yes17:18
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k_williamRiddell: My wireless has been dying this morning, so i missed the middle part of the bzr tutorial17:19
kiizis it possible to run a windows vm under kubuntu and network kubuntu to use a internet connection of the vm17:19
k_williamRiddell: how do you download/upload to kubuntu-tutorial?17:19
Jyzygzel-oh shi it was a trap17:19
Jyzygzel-i still had The Old ATI driver17:19
Jyzygzel-you all know what happends when you restart with that :-D17:20
rwarnergoodmorning .... do the man pages get installed automatically or do i need to select them ... i'm looking for the bind man page ...17:20
BluesKajnewuser , reboot , then open adept and type alsa in the searchbar to see if it's installed or not17:20
BluesKajor alsamixer in the konsole17:20
newuserit is in multimedia but when I click on it i get      alsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default:  No such device17:21
k_williamRiddell: when I try bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kwilliam++/kubuntu-totorial/kwilliam-test-branch I get the error "Launchpad user 'william' doesn't have a registereed SSH key"17:22
newusertowards the end of Diasuke_laptop and my session   he had me remove the mods (temporarilly)17:23
rwarner.... do the man pages get installed automatically or do i need to select them ... i'm looking for the bind man page ...  tia17:23
BluesKajnewuser, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply17:23
newuserits all there    CANNot click apply greyed out17:24
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BluesKajnewuser, on the general tab make sure all the boxes are X 'd17:25
Abyssionhi all17:25
newuserrestarting sound after clicking networked sound    and it goes over and over and over17:26
newusergoes to 100 and then starts restarting sound window again and again]17:26
BluesKajnewuser, alsamixer in the konsole ?17:27
BluesKajerr try17:27
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rwarneris there someone who can help me with man pages?17:28
newusersound system settings window... Im not sure what your asking17:28
BluesKajnewuser, type alsamixer in the konsole/terminal17:28
bazhangrwarner: you can read all the man pages in html on the internet17:28
newuserthe restarting sound in the sound system settings window looks like it is trying to restart but continues to load to 100 over and over17:28
BluesKajclose the system settings17:29
newuserwoops wrong computer let me try again on the laptop17:29
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions17:30
newuserI get the same message....   alsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device17:30
DreadKnightlimac: how old are you man?17:30
DreadKnightlimac: you are a funny guy :)17:31
limacur serious17:31
BluesKajok, newuser try this in the terminal :cat /proc/asound/cards17:31
newuserwow    now there is No soundcards reported17:31
newuserbefore it was hda-inter17:32
BluesKajlimac, anyone who asks a persons age is under 14  :)17:32
newuserDiasuke_laptop and I had temporarily removed the mods for some reason and then he had to leave for an emergency17:32
BluesKajDreadKnight, we don't get that personal here17:33
BluesKajnewuser, did you reboot since then ?17:33
newuserBluesKja  can we get in a private window??   yes I did17:34
ubunturosoh, I forgot! It is KubuntuTutorialDay :(17:34
BluesKajnewuser, I prefer not to PM ,it seems you and Daisuke_Laptop were in the middle of something that I have no idea about so we'd better wait for him17:35
casey_Hello i have a few problems17:37
casey_My sound isnt working nor is my webcam17:37
limacDreadKnight: How old r u?17:37
DreadKnightlimac: going for 2117:37
newuserIs there anyone in here that knows how to configure a soundcard that was there earlier and now isnt due to removing the mod's17:37
limacman i am always the youngest, I am sick of it17:38
DreadKnightlimac: :)) grow up17:38
casey_Any help would be appreciated :D17:38
BluesKajlimac, well don't feel so bad , I'm always the oldest :)17:38
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras17:38
newuserlspci shows its all in there17:38
casey_its a built-in chicony usb 2.0 cam17:38
ubunturos!u | limac17:39
ubotulimac: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..17:39
limaccasey: wat kind of soundcard do u have?17:39
lingardhow do i receive a stream from kaffeine via VLC on a different machine?17:39
casey_built in intel i believe17:39
limacbut "u" is just a shortcut!17:39
casey_let me do a lspci17:39
BluesKajnewuser, post your lspci in pastebin , and post the URL here so we can take a look17:39
DreadKnightBluesKaj: do you wish you where under 14? :P17:40
DreadKnightyeah but that wasn't very nice17:40
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newuserhow is that done..  I am a New user after all     what is pastbin?17:41
DreadKnightpastebin is used when you need to paste large chunks of text in a chatroom17:41
DreadKnightthere are several pastebin sites17:41
BluesKajwell DreadKnight, don't ask ppl personal questions , that's impolite17:41
casey_have a look at that17:41
DreadKnightso you paste into the site and then you only paste a single link in the chat17:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:42
casey_my pastebin works fine i hope?17:42
ubunturosnewuser: you can often try Kubuntu related terms with an exclamation mark in front of it (just like BluesKaj, did) and find out.17:42
ubunturosnewuser: also use a PM mode while doing so, if you intend to search for a lot of terms17:43
DreadKnightBluesKaj: careful man or I17:43
DreadKnight'll ask for your age17:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:43
BluesKajI'm not ashamed to tell you DreadKnight , all the regulars here know that I'm 6417:44
casey_my default soundcard is an "HDA Intel" according to the sound preferences17:44
DreadKnightmany happy years ahead17:45
DreadKnightbut i haven't been impolite to liman ;) it's more impolite to pick on somebody and call him under 1417:45
DreadKnightliman if you got offended please excuse me17:45
limaccasey_ try this it SHOULD work for your sound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:45
DreadKnightanyway, let's wrap this up17:45
limaccasey_: if anything goes wrong post it here!17:46
rwarneranyone familiar with bind()?17:46
BluesKajyup, saw that casey_, do a: sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard" to set your default card if need be.17:46
limaccasey_: and remember to change the .14 of the alsa (lib, utils, driver) to .15! :)17:47
ScorpKingrwarner: for DNS?17:47
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limacDreadKnight: hey DUDE (hopefully)17:47
casey_im trying17:47
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rwarnerScorpking for doing UDP17:48
DreadKnightlimac: yes, dude ^^17:48
Taggnostrwhen i installed kde on ubuntu a lot of nice program were installed, now i installed kubuntu and i can't find all these programs, where can i find them?17:48
ScorpKingah ok. nvm17:48
DreadKnightTaggnostr: i think you kept "gnome-desktop17:49
DreadKnight" meta package17:49
casey_im confused :D17:49
abdullaDreadKnight, my gnome Ubuntu desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_37eda7e.png&srv=img3417:49
DreadKnightTaggnostr: gnome/gtk packages run slower under kde/kubuntu17:49
Taggnostrwhat should i do to have those programs back?17:50
DreadKnightabdulla: chaotic xD17:50
Taggnostri installed kubuntu for my father, he'd like to have something to play with17:50
abdullaand heres my relaxing background http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktop2m_2a9e7c4.png&srv=img3317:51
DreadKnightTaggnostr: i don't recommend you to get them back, kde/kubuntu has a set of nice programms by default, gnome/ubuntu has another set of specific applications by default17:51
xakaanybody work with proxychains?17:51
casey_whats the newest alsa17:52
DreadKnightTaggnostr: but if you are running kubuntu ... install the gnome desktop applications, fire this up in the konsole: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop17:52
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Taggnostriirc the nice programs i'm talking about came with kde17:52
DreadKnightTaggnostr: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop17:53
DreadKnightmy bad17:53
DreadKnightTaggnostr: or just fire add/remove programs from the K menu and install your desired applications ;)17:53
Taggnostrwith gnome i had just a few games, when i installed kde i had 5-6 category of games and each category has 5-6 games, are these programs part of ubuntu-desktop or kde or what?17:54
Taggnostralso lot of them starts with K17:54
Dustmopsudo apt-get install kdegames17:55
Taggnostrso i should reinstall those packages17:55
DreadKnightTaggnostr: ubuntu-desktop (which are gnome applications i don't recommend having under kde, but kde4 (11 january - release date) will also have games17:55
DreadKnightTaggnostr: probably the kdegames are different from the gnome ones, not sure17:56
DreadKnightabdulla: what's that vector image on your desktop? tha one with the moon? can you email it to me? ^^17:57
Taggnostron kde+ubuntu i also have categories like edutainment, games, graphics and so on17:57
DreadKnightTaggnostr: it's kubuntu or ubuntu? :P17:57
casey_this isnt working gah17:58
Taggnostrubuntu, but i installed kde and i get all these programs with names starting with K17:58
DreadKnightTaggnostr: (k)ubuntu is not windows, well most linux distros have nicely arranged start menus17:58
DreadKnightyou kinda made it messy xD17:58
DreadKnightoh well17:58
Taggnostrso if kubuntu use kde there should be all these "K" programs, isn't it?17:58
DreadKnightyes, but it;s not nice to install kde on ubuntu, just install the kubuntu distro which uses kde17:59
DreadKnightbecause you get both packages... the gnome and the kde ones.. and it's a total mess17:59
Taggnostris what i did, but i don't have those programs17:59
DreadKnighthmm :)18:00
Riddell** Get your work into Kubuntu tutorial starting now in #kubuntu-devel18:00
Taggnostror maybe they are hide somewhere else :P18:00
DreadKnightsudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop18:00
kiizguys, which is a better vm for kubunt.qemu or virtual box18:01
casey_ALSA modules were successfully compiled.18:01
ricerciaok i'm still having problems compiling my deb files18:01
casey_whats this mean18:02
ricerciafrom the last tutorial on  #kubuntu-devel18:02
casey_WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!!18:02
casey_You would use some ALSA or OSS mixer to set the appropriate volume.18:02
Taggnostrhere i have ubuntu+kde3.5 and i've all these programs divided in categories such as development, edutainment, games, graphics etc., on my new kubuntu machine i don't have those18:02
DreadKnightkiiz: virtual box freezez for me at some point :( haven't tried qemu yet18:02
Norgurdeb files are already compiled Oo18:02
DreadKnightkiiz: is kubunt.qemu a qt GUI for qemu?18:02
Taggnostri'm going to the other machine to check if these programs are hidden somewhere18:03
DreadKnightTaggnostr: you don't have any categories at all on kubuntu?18:03
apacheloggerricercia: rm -rf debian-tem.tar.gz18:04
ricerciag2g - i will ask my deb question l8r :-D18:04
ricerciao thanks - i can spare a minute18:04
ricerciastill no joy18:05
apacheloggerricercia: whats the error?18:05
kiizDreadKnight : typo error.should be" which is a better vm for kubuntu,qemu or virtual box"18:05
RyielSrrrrááááááááááááááácccccccccoooooooooooookkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!! Megvannak a képek az ubuntus targoncáról!!!!!!!!!!!!18:05
apacheloggerricercia: mv kraft_0.20.orig.tar.gz ../18:05
Ryielwrong channel18:05
apacheloggerRyiel: lol18:05
RyielIt happens sometimes :D18:06
DreadKnightkiiz: well, practicaly qemu, because it doesn't have a GUI so it takes less memory, but virtual box uses qemu too, it's actually a GUI for qemu ;)18:06
RyielThese damned tabs are so close to each other :D18:06
casey_now that ive updated alsa i reboot?18:06
ricerciamore errors :-( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2703/18:06
apacheloggerricercia: you didn't retar the tarball properly18:07
casey_do i reboot now that ive updated alsa?18:07
DreadKnightkiiz: theoretically* better to say18:07
ricerciaok - sorry i'm not very goo with tars - wat do i hav to type?18:07
apacheloggerricercia: wget again - bunzip2 kraft*bz2; gzip kraft*tar; mv kraft; mv kraft-0.20.tar.gz kraft_0.20.orig.tar.gz18:08
casey_do i need to reboot or not18:08
matthiasRiddell: do you think it's a good idea to put /etc under control of bzr?18:08
ubotuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim18:08
ScorpKingugh. where can i find the latest kopete patches and updates? kopete.kde.org looks a bit old18:09
stdinScorpKing: svn is always the latest18:11
casey_now that ive installed the latest alsa for my intel card, i reboot and what else18:11
ScorpKingty stdin. thought so18:11
DreadKnightScorpKing: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Kopete18:11
abdullaDreadKnight, the moon?18:12
ScorpKingthanks DreadKnight18:13
abdullaDreadKnight, you mean which image ? the one that has Debian logo down or the Clouds?18:13
ricerciag2g thanks for help so far apachelogger - will hav 2 do more l8r18:14
DreadKnightabdulla: up... it's a grey vector image on your desktop, with a moon in the upper right corner18:15
abdullayes you mean the icon DreadKnight its a pic of a mosque , thats how muslim mosque logo is18:15
DreadKnightabdulla: i think so :) yeah...18:15
DreadKnightabdulla: you made it?18:16
abdullano i got it from google18:16
DreadKnightabdulla: link? :D18:16
abdulla1second im backtracking my searches =p18:16
Riddellmatthias: yes, putting /etc under bzr is a great idea especially for servers18:17
abdullai dunno if its my network that is slow tonight or google itself18:17
newuserO.K.   I finally got a handle on the pastebin thing and have included all that remains of our private mess as to what it was we did.. I have to leave for about an hour if any of you brave soals want to tackle this problem I would greatly appreciate it and Merry Christmas    http://pastebin.com/d6ff3e41418:17
newuserthx and be back in a bit18:18
abdullaDreadKnight, theyr is this http://www.oman3d.com/tutorials/photoshop/mosque_draw/final.jpg and this http://www.oman3d.com/tutorials/photoshop/mosque_draw/7.jpg18:18
abdullabrb doorbell18:19
DreadKnightabdulla: the first one xD yey . thanks man18:19
limaccasey_: srry i went for lunch, and yes you reboot18:21
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Taggnostr<DreadKnight> Taggnostr: you don't have any categories at all on kubuntu? <- yes, i've system, settings, office, multimedia, internet and graphics18:29
Taggnostrbtw i did add/remove programs18:29
Riddelllimac: we can help you get your .deb after the tutorials (in an hour)18:29
DreadKnightTaggnostr: you will never have an empty category ;) so if you install a game, the games category will appears for example18:29
Taggnostri selected a game and it checked automatically several others games, i did install, but while installing i got an error18:30
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows18:30
limacRiddell: sure thing DUDE!18:30
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:30
Jyzygzel-how do i get the system to recognize my mouse button?18:30
Jyzygzel-thumb button18:30
DreadKnightTaggnostr: what error?18:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:30
smcintyreCan Someone help me install a network printer?18:31
smcintyre HP laserjet 243018:31
Dr_willisJyzygzel-,  It may take some manual tweaking of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file18:31
Taggnostri reboot and now i've the game category with some games, but it seems that several games miss. if i try to open add/remove programs it says that someone else is using aptititude and i can't add the missing games18:31
llutzsmcintyre: use browser - localhost:631 - add new printer, device = socket://printer.ip.address18:31
TaggnostrDreadKnight, something like a damaged package18:31
Dr_willisYou may want to check the ubuntu forums for mouse setting. i often find the gentoo wiki pages good for the various mouse setting-up. But gentoo is quite a bit different from ubuntu.18:31
Jyzygzel-Dr_willis ic18:32
smcintyrellutz: sorry again?18:32
Jyzygzel-well makes me wonder what do i need to tweak there18:32
DreadKnightTaggnostr: not good :\18:32
limacRiddell: Srry if i am bothering you guys with my questions, you see i am kinda 12 and just recently (couple of months ago) started using Linux (Ubuntu and Kubuntu) so i am only familiar with the basics! HIHIHI18:32
dameousehalp my kitty ran away!18:32
Dr_willismy network printer uses ipp://somthing:someport :) sicne its a HP directjet i think18:32
Dr_williswith linux it pays to learn the core fundamentals. :)18:32
llutzjetdirect is socket://ip-addr  too18:32
Taggnostrafter the error it sayd that the installation was ok18:32
Dr_williswhats ipp: then?18:32
smcintyrellutz: which socket?18:32
Dr_willisI always have to try one then the other.. heh.18:33
DreadKnightTaggnostr: but nothing got installed?18:33
llutzDr_willis: different protocol18:33
Taggnostrit seems that when it found the damaged package it stopped the installation of the other games and quit18:33
Dr_willisI think my printserver can do them all. so i try them untill one works.18:33
llutzsmcintyre: thats the device-name you have to use18:33
Taggnostrit just installed a few games18:33
smcintyrellutz: Literally socket:// or do I have to know which socket it is?18:33
Taggnostrabout 1/3 of the games i think18:34
llutzsocket://ip-addr  too18:34
smcintyrellutz: it's asking for a password18:34
llutzsmcintyre: you need the printers ip-address18:34
smcintyrethat's the sudo passwd18:34
smcintyre I have that18:34
Taggnostri also had that error while updating the system :\18:34
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drudgryis there an irc where I can go swear, rant and rave for a minute or so, eg.. vent?18:35
Taggnostrand it sayd again that the installation is ok and now it says that there are no update available18:35
smcintyre!ot | drudgry18:35
ubotudrudgry: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:35
abdullaDreadKnight, you very welcome brother18:35
DreadKnightthanks :D18:35
Taggnostrwhat should i do if the packages are damaged?18:36
Dr_willisTaggnostr,  i wouls start with a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' first18:36
kiizi have trouble use adept to install from cd. it say cannot mount drive.what wrong how do i get around this18:37
Taggnostrok, and if the aptitude is used by something else? i got this error while i was trying to open add/remove programs18:37
Dr_willisonly ONE program that is using the package managing (apt) system can be running at a time18:38
Taggnostri know18:38
Dr_willisclose out all package manager tools. and only use one. :O If theres a stale lock.. then...18:38
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:38
Taggnostri started the add/remove programs after a reboot and i got that error again18:39
apacheloggerDreadKnight: also there is a point in developers not to maintain the packages18:39
Dr_williskiiz,  if you remove/reinsrt the cd. does it pop up a dialog to view the contents?18:39
apacheloggerDreadKnight: usually a distro maintainer knows better anway, plus it reduces work18:39
apacheloggerDreadKnight: so every app should just have a packaging squad ;-)18:39
kiizDr_willis: yes it does18:40
DreadKnightapachelogger: well, i filed lots of bugs with the "upgrade" tag on launchpad... lazy packaging squads they are18:40
Dr_williskiiz,  then it should be mounted.. thats an odd error. Of course any packagtes on the cd. may be a bit out of date now. Its best to just let apt download them from the internet.18:40
apacheloggerDreadKnight: get in contact with the actual package maintainer18:41
nareshovstdin: this line "Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm" doesn't work for me18:41
apacheloggerDreadKnight: if he doesn't want to maintain it anymore you/he might as well as for a new maintainer18:41
stdinnareshov: "doesn't work" means nothing, what exactly doesn't work and what happens when you try?18:42
nareshovxterm Xt error: Can't open display: :118:42
DreadKnightapachelogger: i got many cases where a new version of the software was released, no new dependencyes, only bug fixes, for example GIMP, blender, pidgin...18:42
DreadKnightGIMP was cought as a RC1 on the 7.10 cd, that's not very professional...18:42
stdinnareshov: does Xephyr open?18:42
nareshovwoah! it doesn't anymore18:43
apacheloggerDreadKnight: the thing about rcs is that they should be a final18:43
apacheloggeronly if certain quirks appear another rc should have to be released18:43
apacheloggerunlike kde does currently -.-18:43
stdinnareshov: well first do "export DISPLAY=:0" then try18:43
DreadKnightapachelogger: gimp 2.4.2 released now.. not included... tons of bugs fixed since 2.4 rc118:43
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apacheloggerDreadKnight: well, there is a policy about adding new software to released repositories18:44
apacheloggerupdates only goes ubuntu-updates and big changes like gimp 2.4.2 would only go -backports IMO18:45
DreadKnighthmm, that's what the motu said, but haven't actually done18:45
casey_omg i have sound now18:46
apacheloggerDreadKnight: so don't whine about it :P18:46
casey_but my volume slider doesnt control it i dont think18:46
casey_how do i control my volume18:46
Dr_willisIt may be set to the wrong channel Casey18:46
Dr_willisoops casey_  :)18:46
casey_idk hold on18:46
DreadKnightno good reason not to include more stable software >_< ... windoze has like 200mb of daily updates...18:46
casey_god i had vista on this laptop but it sucked and i moved to ubuntu :P18:47
DreadKnightmore stable & secure*18:47
Dr_willisDreadKnight,  its a never ending cycle.. and the ubuntu guys to do updates every 6 mo. Thats just how they do it. I doubt if you are going to change their minds.. and their reasons are on the forums I belive.18:47
Dr_willisof course there is the backports and unofficial repos. :)18:48
RyielGuys!!!!!!! Check this out: it's in hungarian but i can translate it for you if you need it! The Kubuntu Forklifter!!! http://tejbegrizzly.blog.com18:48
apacheloggerDr_willis: and updates18:48
casey_someone send me a link to an mp3 file for testing purposes18:48
apacheloggerDreadKnight: the thing is, especially big releases can break compability and stuff18:48
stdin!offtopic  | Ryiel18:49
ubotuRyiel: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:49
Ryieloh, sorry18:49
limacso Riddell, when can u feed me the the tutorial about "how to creat .deb packages"? btw: thnx a lot :)18:49
Dr_williscasey_,   http://cdn.muzic.com/uploads/mp3s/b/blindlemonjefferson-SeeThatMyGraveisKeptClean.mp318:50
Dr_willisGotta love PD Mp3's18:50
nareshovstdin: the only kde4 app that works for me from the ppa repo is konsole4 :|18:50
kyled185I'm trying to get into developing some qt4 apps with the eclipse plugins provided by trolltech, but when I try to create a project it tells me that "source folder must exist".  Anyone here have experience with this?18:50
nareshov(amd64 here)18:50
apacheloggerlimac: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/kubuntu-pkg-talk18:50
stdinnareshov: try logging in to a full session from KDM18:51
nareshovstdin: KDM showed up in a second or two :\18:52
nonameanyone can help me where i acn find codec or whats its name for wma? amarok cannot play it18:53
stdinnareshov: can you post the first few lines of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde to pastebin please18:53
Dr_willisIck. :) it may depend on the specific codec used by the wma file.18:54
ubotuThe Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages18:54
Dr_willisInstalling the w32codecs package 'should' get it to play. Unless its drm'ed or some very weird codec18:54
TameLionHi all18:54
casey_i cant get frostwire to open18:55
nareshovstdin: can't open some config file18:55
nareshovlet me get the path18:55
Dr_williscasey_,  runing it from a terminal and see if theres any error messages? frostwire does need the actual sun java also - installed.18:55
TameLionI'm having a problem with dpkg, I think with dbus: it says /etc/dbus-1/system.conf : no such file or directory18:56
nonamehm where i can find that w32 codecs?18:56
limacapachelogger: thx and can u also give me a link to dholbach's tutorial?18:56
nareshovstdin: can't open /home/nareshov/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig18:56
TameLionand aptitude won't let me re-install18:56
limaci kinda couldn't catch up with it!18:57
apacheloggerlimac: you might ask daniel, though there is always irclogs.ubuntu.com18:57
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stdinnareshov: ok, just "cp ~/.kde/share/config/startupconfig ~/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig" and try again18:57
limacapachelogger: sure thing18:57
seva_а что вообще делают в irc?18:58
kingzarDoes anyone know how i can change my backspace button into " go back" on webpages?18:58
kingzarsomehow it changed18:58
stdin!ru | seva_18:58
ubotuseva_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke18:58
casey_i do have ajava installed18:58
drudgryok so I set up my windows box with a folder / desktop share18:58
TameLionI was trying to get the svn of kdesupport, kdelibs and kdepimlibs working before it borked18:58
casey_how do i run it from the console18:59
drudgryi go set up Add a network folder and then what.. WebFolder?18:59
limacapachelogger: whos daniel?19:00
apacheloggerlimac: dholbach :P19:02
cheguevaraseva_, rasgovarivaut? :P19:02
cheguevaraseva_, na irce rasgovarivaut...19:04
tdnDoes anyone have the time to help me get IrDA to work on my IBM Thinkpad T42?19:04
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casey_frostwire now opens19:08
kingzarhmm goes i have that mac panel fxied on top of my desktop19:10
kingzarhow do i get rid of it?19:10
kingzari forgot where thee option is19:10
casey_frostwire is just sitting there saying "Starting Connection"19:11
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casey_any help?19:12
casey_all it says is "Starting Connection"19:13
casey_oh it just quit19:13
king_anyone familiar with avant?19:21
DreadKnightawn ?19:21
DreadKnightwhat's the problem?19:21
king_how do i edit it?19:22
king_because if i right click preference it.. it does nothing19:22
DreadKnightrunning ubuntu?19:22
DreadKnightwell, it has an "application" to configure19:22
DreadKnightit's kinda hard to click click / preference19:23
king_ah i found it! it's in system19:23
kyled185it's called awn-manager19:23
king_yes indeed thanks19:23
king_and 1 thing that has been bugging me with compiz fusion, i cannot get it to NOT focus..19:23
king_right now everytime i click on a screen, the active one doesn't go behind19:24
king_do you know a solution for that?19:24
adamonline45king_: If you click the title bar does it change?19:24
king_yes it does19:26
king_only if i click the title19:26
king_which is a pain19:26
adamonline45king_: I feel you.  I wish I knew how to change that :)19:26
king_thanks :)19:26
adamonline45well, lessee...19:27
king_do you have the problem that everytime you press any of those focus optiones19:27
king_it goes away19:27
king_it doesn't allow me to put a cross in the box19:27
adamonline45king_: That's exactly what happens to me19:29
king_another thing i'm trying to do is get rid of the mac bar up top19:30
kiiza sugested and recommended dependencies need for a package to work19:31
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king_Halleluja ! found it19:31
king_i'm too good :P19:31
adamonline45where where where?19:31
king_erm desktop config>behavior> 3options none/desktop menu/blabla mac menu19:32
king_my awm manager isn't working19:32
kiizare  suggested and recommended dependencies needed for a package to work19:32
adamonline45dunno what you mean by mac bar...  I have a problem where my taskbar icons that represent system stuff - KBluetooth, Power Manager, etc. keep getting their own little windows on the desktop... Annoying 8)19:33
king_?! what do you mean19:33
king_their own little window? like a preview?19:33
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adamonline45king_: not a preview; a whole window!  They should just be an icon in the little applet, but they end up being a little eliptical window with a taskbar button...  Totally cluttering my taskbar space...19:34
lingardhow do i open a port on kubuntu?19:35
king_i want my dock to be smaller :(19:35
king_it's too big right now19:36
adamonline45king_: Dang, I've got to go to school! :O  Damn computers... always do this to me 8)19:36
lingarddip it in cold water ;)19:36
bmk789how do i install grub from the liveCD with the configuration from my HD install?19:36
adamonline45I'll see if you're on later... Peace!19:36
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lingardhow do i open a port on kubuntu?19:38
BluesKajbmk789, did you install windows as well ?19:39
llutzlingard: a port for what?19:39
bmk789BluesKaj: nope, should i just chroot into my install and run grub-install?19:39
BluesKajbmk789, you mean you have no grub menu at boot up ?19:40
bmk789i get a grub read error19:40
lingardto broadcast19:40
llutzlingard: no need to "open" a port if you haven't blocked them with iptables19:41
bmk789wait nvm, cant chroot into 64 bit from 3219:41
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lingardi'm unable to access a broadcast via vlc on another machine on the network19:42
picharrashola gente19:42
king_Hahaha poor adam i just fixed the mouse raise focus thingy19:42
king_oh well19:42
picharrasalguien me dice cual es el canal de ubuntu en españl?19:43
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.19:43
lingardno hablo español19:44
BluesKajbmk789, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst then make sure the "hiddenmenu" is commented out #, but I suggest you post it in pastebin so we can examine it19:44
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king_q tal19:46
alumnoaqui kubunteando19:46
king_tu tambien ;)19:46
king_does anyone know if you can get a NTFS harddisk working on ubuntu?19:48
king_it's my data disk of windows19:48
odilederayspeak french ?19:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:48
odilederayubotu = BOT19:48
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:48
BluesKaj!ntfs king_19:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs king_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:49
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE19:49
king_that helps :P19:49
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.19:52
FrauHansenany streaming media experts present?19:53
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BluesKajFrauHansen, serving or receiving ?19:54
FrauHanseni'd like to stream music to multiple PC's (LAN) so that they can play the stream simultaniously19:54
FrauHanseni think RTSP-protocol supports this19:55
king_backspace buttion fixed woohoo19:55
BluesKaj!streaming | FrauHansen19:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:56
FrauHansenI kinda got it working using vlc, but the problem was that i couldn not alter the playlist once the streaming was active19:56
BluesKaj!info streaming19:56
ubotuPackage streaming does not exist in gutsy19:56
lingardhow did you get streaming working on VLC?19:57
lingardi'm trying to stream a kaffeine broadcast19:57
excitatoryso, i really haven't kept up on this for a few years, but if i have a bunch of video files (mpeg, avi, and others) is possible these days to painlessly (read: no re-encoding) burn these files to a cd-r or dvd-r for use in a DVD player?  (my dvd player plays vcd, svcd, and more)19:57
king_anyone know a good place to get widgets? i wanna get clock/calender/notepad things..19:57
CoCaInEi installed vmware-server-console ,finished it with success but now when i type vmware in console it says its wrong command19:58
excitatoryking_: did you try kde-apps.org?  also look into superkaramba and screenlets19:58
FrauHansenlingard: using the VLC streaming wizzard (ctrl-w) ... i only tested with mp3 and avi stream19:59
BluesKajexcitatory, it depends how new your DVD player is and if it can play DIVX ,XVID , those are the primary avi files out on the net19:59
king_thank you19:59
lingardusing windows on the client?19:59
FrauHansenlingard: ...and multicast.19:59
FrauHanseni stumbled upon ampache today, but i'm not shure if it supports synchronous streaming20:00
mrukushow do i pull up the restricted drivers screen iwth kubuntu20:01
jussi01mrukus: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted drivers20:01
lingardFrauHansen: do you have a TV card installed on your machine?20:01
excitatoryBluesKaj: yea, i don't think it plays those.. so i guess i'm to look at re-encoding..huh?20:02
lingardi'm trying to stream a tv broadcast using kaffeine20:02
mrukusi thought so too20:02
mrukusbut there is no option for restricted drivers20:02
lingardbut the client doesn't want to connect20:02
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* jussi01 hus Riddell :D20:03
FrauHansenlingard: i once read a guide for broadcasting tv over lan using vlc.20:03
jussi01mrukus: hmm, which version of kubuntu?20:03
mrukustheres only dixk and filesystems, system services, login manager, windows applications audio encoding kde resources service manager and session manager20:03
mrukusfiesty fawn20:03
jussi01mrukus: ahhh20:04
jussi01mrukus: one moment please20:04
pteague_workanybody know of a good svn gui?20:04
jussi01pteague_work: rapidsvn20:04
pteague_workjussi01> k, what do you suggest for it's programs?20:04
pteague_workit wants a file explorer & diff tool20:05
jussi01pteague_work: ?20:05
jussi01pteague_work: you can also get a quite nice svn tool in eclipse20:05
pteague_workyeah, normally i'd probably use that, but some idiot put this website together & i crashed eclipse twice yesterday20:06
jussi01mrukus: Im not sure of the package name - but you need to install the restricted manaer in feisrty20:07
mrukushows it going jussi01?20:07
pteague_work10k+ php files in 1 directory & all they are are a single line setting a variable or 2 & including another file...20:07
casey_frostwire still hasnt connected20:07
jussi01pteague_work: any reason not to just check it out from the command line?20:07
pteague_workwas hoping to see the entire file.. wonder if kdiff3 would work20:08
jussi01mrukus: it _may_ be restricted-manaer, but that could also only be the gnome one20:08
mrukusthat is the one that i just reinstalled20:09
jussi01mrukus: what are you tryin to do with it?20:09
mrukusi need to disable the restriced driver for my wireless card20:09
jussi01mrukus: ahh...20:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:10
jussi01have you looked there?20:10
mrukusa couple times, my computer just really doesn't like both linux and wireless20:10
mrukusmy chipset is the ONLY chipset that kubuntu doesn't support20:11
mrukusthe only antheros20:11
mrukushow can i go abotu doing this then "First, I deactivated Atheros from Restricted Modules."20:11
jussi01mrukus: have you considered upgradin to gutsy?20:12
casey_can xchat display the current song you are playing to the chat20:12
mrukusi did a couple weeks ago20:13
mrukuswas running into all shorts of issues20:13
mrukusso i am doing a fresh install20:13
jussi01casey_: yes, but you need to get a script. google for them.20:13
jussi01mrukus: ok20:13
mrukusi was trying to do a fresh install with kubuntu gutsy actually20:14
casey_i didnt know if they made scripts for xchat, thanks.20:14
mrukusi couldn't get t elive cd to work20:14
jussi01casey_: why are you using xchat?20:14
casey_i do not know, whats better?20:14
mrukusso i started with ubuntu fiesty20:14
jussi01casey_: konversation has one built in20:14
casey_xchat came installed on here20:14
casey_oh ok20:14
jussi01casey_: are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?20:14
casey_kubuntu i believe, thats what it says when it loads linux20:15
jussi01casey_: on konversation just type: /media20:15
jussi01mrukus: it looks like there isnt one for kubuntu feisty. sorry20:17
mibhello @ all, can smoebody help me, i dont know were to put new single icons (no icon themes!) i've copied them into /usr/share/pixmaps but when i want to add a icon the new ones arent there20:17
casey_ok brb20:17
casey_yay it works20:17
casey_ok do i need to open a player for /media to work20:17
jussi01casey_: great :D20:17
jussi01casey_: you need to have somethin playing of course...20:18
mibi need a general place where i can put new icon (*.png)20:18
casey_what players are supported20:19
jussi01casey_: amarok as far as I know20:19
mibok sry, i've found it20:19
jussi01!language | casey_20:20
ubotucasey_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:20
casey_my volume slider on my laptop doesnt work, how do i get it to work20:20
casey_sorry, but my volume is at max and i do not know how to fix it20:20
jussi01casey_: the hardware one?20:20
jussi01or software?20:21
casey_yes, on my laptop, the volume slider on the laptop20:21
king_Hmm can anyone tell me something about this plugin20:21
casey_it shows on ubuntu thats its going up and down but its not20:21
king_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572019 <-- is this functional in kubuntu aswell?20:21
king_because it tells you to download something with gnome in it20:21
jussi01casey_: right click on the volume applet in the task bar, choose select master channel and choose PCM20:22
mrukusif i log in under a gnome session, and disable the restricted driver, would that carry on over to my kde session20:22
jussi01mrukus: I think so.20:23
mrukussweet, ill try that20:23
jussi01mrukus: please understand that im not certain.20:24
king_hope it doesn't mess my ubuntu up20:24
casey_no that didnt work20:24
king_i got kde, and i'm gonna try gnome20:24
jussi01casey_: what sound card is it?20:25
casey_its an intel, i just got it updated20:26
jussi01casey_: intel hda?20:26
jussi01casey_: try some of the other options in the mixer20:27
jussi01play around with the volumes20:27
lingardcan you use hardware in wine?20:27
lingardfor me it doesn't seem to detect it20:28
jussi01lingard: only if it work on linux also20:28
casey_hda intel20:29
jussi01!intelhda | casey_:20:29
ubotucasey_:: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto20:29
casey_i already did that20:29
casey_someone said it might be on the wrong channel?20:29
jussi01casey_: are you on konversation now?20:30
jussi01casey_: Im not sure where to go from here - you followed the guide the bot just gave?20:31
casey_yeah a bit earlier and i actually got sound working20:32
limacwould u guys suggest running kubuntu on a desktop or on a laptop20:33
jussi01casey_: ok, so go to menu -> multimedia -> kmix and play with the volumes20:33
jussi01limac: either is fine20:33
limaclike for more stability20:33
jussi01limac: no difference.20:33
casey_ok hold20:34
limaccasey_: did u overcome that sound problem of yours yet?20:34
jussi01casey_: you can also try typing: alsamixer into konsole to get more options20:34
casey_ok alsamixer is up20:35
casey_yes i have sound now limac20:35
casey_but my volume is f*ck3d20:35
limacgood, did that tutotrial work?20:35
jussi01casey, try adjustin various volume to see what exactly controls your card. usually pcm does it20:36
casey_i want the volume slider on the laptop to work lol20:36
kiizplease can anyone give me a hint on linux noetorking. i am try to get kubuntu to use an internet connection on a windows box20:36
jussi01casey_: lets leave the swear words out - even with the  *'s :)20:36
limaccasey_: check the front too20:36
casey_ok guys20:37
limackiiz: describe ur problem20:37
casey_my volume slider is set to "Headphone"20:37
casey_so it does nothing20:38
jussi01kiiz: this thread may help :D20:38
jussi01casey_: so try setting it to pcm20:38
casey_how do i do that20:39
limackiiz: is wired connection working on your system?20:39
jussi01casey_: as I described earlier.  right click on the volume in the taskbar -> select master channel -> PCM20:39
casey_i dont see "select master channel"20:40
jussi01what do you see?20:40
casey_i can hit preferences to select a device20:40
king_anyone know why i cannot put this command20:40
king_gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"20:40
casey_headphone, pcm, front20:40
casey_front mic boost20:40
jussi01casey_: select pcm20:40
limaccasey_: right click on the megaphone sort of icon on the bottom right hand side of the screen.20:40
king_avant manager asked to put this command in alt + f2 : gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", but it says i cannot run this command20:41
king_i got kubuntu 7.1020:41
casey_i dont have that, i have a volume bar at the top20:41
limaccasey_: do u use ubuntu?20:41
jussi01king_: kdesu kate  /etc/apt/sources.list20:41
limacor kubuntu?20:41
casey_its some build of kubuntu20:41
jussi01casey_: I think you are on ubuntu20:41
casey_hmm maybe20:42
jussi01casey_: anyway, if you select pacm there it should work20:42
limacking_: that's because kubuntu doesn't use gedit, so either try what jussi01 suggested or sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list20:42
jussi01limac: because its a raphical app, he needs kdesu20:42
jussi01dont use sudo with graphical apps20:43
limaccasey_: i too think u r using kubuntu20:43
casey_when i load up it displays a kubuntu thing in blue20:43
limacjussi01: you got a point right there!20:43
limacperhaps u have the kde (kubuntu) theme installed! :D20:43
jussi01casey_: it sounds to me you are using gnome on top of kubuntu.20:44
casey_ah yes i am20:44
jussi01casey_: Please join #ubuntu for help with gnome stuff :D20:44
king_A: System > prefernces > sessions <-- doesn't exist in my kubuntu 7.10 how do i get their?20:45
casey_they seem to be less helpful then here20:46
jussi01king_: menu -> system settings -> advanced -> session manager20:46
jussi01casey_: you had the list up! just choose pcm from it20:46
jussi01casey_: and also - dont repeat yourself so soon :)20:47
limacjussi01: don't u think front will be more appropriate to use20:47
jussi01limac: no.20:48
jussi01limac: because i had the same issue with my laptop and I know what works20:48
kiizlimac: i cant get my cdma internet connection to work with kubuntu.so i am try to intall a windows wm with qemu since i can easy set up the internet connection on windows then network kubuntu to use the connection on the vm20:51
limackiiz: not even wired?20:52
jussi01kiiz: which modem are you using?20:52
Taggnostris it normal that apt is used by something even when i restart the system?20:53
kiizjussi01: it is a cdma FWT. not actually a modem but use windows modem drivers20:53
limackiiz: are your restricted drivers in kubuntu enabled?20:54
jussi01kiiz: FWT?20:55
kiizlimac: yes but i can connet to the net in kubuntu.20:55
kiizjussi01: Fix Wireless Terminal20:56
limackiiz: try ifconfig and briefly tell us what it shows20:58
* jussi01 -> bed20:59
casey_yeah they are not helping me21:00
limaccasey_: any other help u need?21:01
newuserO.K.   I finally got a handle on the pastebin thing and have included all that remains of our private mess as to what it was we did.. I have to leave for about an hour if any of you brave soals want to tackle this problem I would greatly appreciate it and Merry Christmas    http://pastebin.com/d6ff3e41421:02
newuserwell im back21:02
casey_just the one form before21:02
newuseranyone have any ideas21:02
casey_my volume slider is ajusting "headphones" and not "pcm"21:02
casey_the slider "on" the laptop, not the ubuntu one21:02
BluesKajphones is a different ctrl than pcm21:03
BluesKajmake sure PCM is chosen in kmix21:03
casey_how do i get to kmix from the konsole21:03
casey_just type kmix?21:04
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BluesKajclick on the speaker icon21:04
king_is there a plugin to put fishes inside the cube of compiz fusion?21:04
BluesKajthen mixer21:05
casey_i dont see anything that says kmix21:05
BluesKajdo you see the mixer tab on the bottom of the vol ctrl?21:05
kiizlimac: it shows eth0 and lo(?). rx and tx are all zero21:06
casey_ok im on the switches tab21:07
limackiiz: try right clicking on the volume applet on the bottom right side of the screen21:07
casey_i can edit the volume via kmix but the slider still edits the wrong volume21:08
BluesKajcasey_, open the input tab21:08
limackiiz: and there should be a list of all the available wireless netowoks in your reach21:08
casey_ok i opened it21:08
BluesKajmake sure PCM is turned on21:08
limaccasey_: try fron instead of pci21:08
casey_under input i dont even see pcm21:09
casey_only output21:09
BluesKajyeah sorry , output :/21:09
BluesKajBBL , fool around with the ctrls til you get them to work21:10
casey_i disable headphones but when i move the slider it reenables it21:10
casey_well i just set the controls to plus and minus to control it, i guess that works21:11
kiizlimac: show nothing. it is not a wirelss net work.terminal connect to pc by serial port21:11