[00:00] <kpr> WATCH CHA!
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> good :D
[00:00] <kpr> Great =]
[00:03] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: shortcuts working?
[00:03] <Kingzar> i haven't restarted
[00:03] <Kingzar> i won't try untill i can get compiz fusion working
[00:03] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: :D
[00:04] <Kingzar> i would like to know why the upgrading part is soo slow
[00:04]  * nosrednaekim cries since his dad didn't get him the KDE4-RC2 packages
[00:04] <Kingzar> it goes at 25 kb/s max while i can get up to 600kb/.s
[00:05] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: you are probably using the main mirrors, which are slow
[00:05] <Kingzar> are there alternative ways to get this done fast?
[00:05] <Kingzar> i don't like to be waiting 1 hour for the update
[00:05] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: adept->manage repositories
[00:06] <nosrednaekim> of course, you'll have to cancel the download (but everything so far is saved)
[00:06] <Kingzar> ok
[00:06] <genii> Kingzar: Are you using the spanish repos then? They should be closest to you physically according to whois on your address
[00:07] <Kingzar> i'm in unfamiliar water now, i just downloaded firefox for linux.. extracted the content..
[00:07] <Kingzar> so now i press a .exe?
[00:07] <Kingzar> to installl
[00:07] <genii> no
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: no..... get firefox from adept.
[00:07] <cheguevara> Kingzar, why not install the firefox in the repositories?
[00:07] <onishidato> maybe it's yep
[00:07] <onishidato> no exe in Linux
[00:07] <onishidato> "D
[00:08] <kpr> Lol
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: almost every program for linux is in the repositories where it is simple to install
[00:08] <kpr> Yeah, don't you know .exe's are from the evil Windows. We kill Doze users here. Bow down to Linus. He is a god. ;)
[00:08] <onishidato> hey, can someone tell me how to fix the amarok. i can't make it play mp3
[00:09]  * genii makes kpr's next coffee a decaf
[00:09] <kpr> onishidato: Do you have the correct codecs installed?
[00:09] <ardchoille> hahaha genii
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> !mp3 | onishidato
[00:09] <ubotu> onishidato: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:09] <imlaidbac> register open4me
[00:09] <onishidato> i have all stuff install
[00:09] <kpr> Fool, my coffee is already a decaf!
[00:09]  * kpr drinks more.
[00:09] <genii> Kingzar: You are right now in the middle of some system update?
[00:09] <genii> kpr: :)
[00:09] <BluesKaj> kpr, libxine1-ffmpeg
[00:09] <onishidato> i don't know why it can't play mp3 also
[00:10] <Kingzar> i just got my ubuntu working after 5 days.. and it's updating now
[00:10] <kpr> ?? What about Xine?
[00:10] <kpr> I didn't ask the question.
[00:10] <kpr> =O
[00:10] <genii> Kingzar: After the update is done, open the package manager and install firefox from there
[00:10] <kpr> =[
[00:10] <Kingzar> is there a ctrl + alt + del... function in linux
[00:10] <kpr> People think I ask questions when I don't and when I do, they think I don't. =[
[00:10] <BluesKaj> err onishidato, libxine1-ffmpeg
[00:10] <stdin> Kingzar: ctrl-alt-esc
[00:10] <genii> Kingzar: It's  advisable to let the update finish
[00:11] <onishidato> can you tell me more detai?
[00:11] <kpr> Kingzar: Highly advisable
[00:11] <Kingzar> too late, thnx for the advise
[00:11] <Kingzar> i think i messed it up
[00:11] <onishidato> wow
[00:11] <Kingzar> everytime i startup adept manager now it says it's in use balblalabl
[00:11] <BluesKaj> onishidato, in the konsole : sudo apt-get install libxine-ffmpeg
[00:12] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[00:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:12] <BluesKaj> oops libxine1-ffmpeg , onishidato
[00:12] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: that is if you don't have an instance running
[00:12] <genii> onishidato: Visit the websites provided to you above for help on getting mp3 and other copyrighted things to play
[00:12] <Kingzar> nope
[00:12] <Voyage__> iam using virtual box to run winxp .  how to share files and folders in win xp? it only shows c: .         (in linux virtual box tells me to use "net use x:\\vboxsvr\shareedfoldername"  ) didnt got it.
[00:13] <Kingzar> thank you
[00:13] <onishidato> genii: i have visit it, and nothing change:D
[00:13] <Kingzar> how would you remember that code out of your head lol
[00:13] <stdin> why not, I do
[00:13] <genii> onishidato: You visit it, follow the instructions given there. Just visiting does nothing
[00:14] <onishidato> of course i follow all the instruction lol
[00:14] <onishidato> but nothing change
[00:14] <Kingzar> hmm so what firefox version should i choose out of the 50?>
[00:14] <genii> onishidato: What application are you trying to play the mp3 with?
[00:14] <onishidato> amarok
[00:15] <BluesKaj> onishidato, relogin sometime helps...or closing amarok and restarting it
[00:15] <onishidato> restart a thousand times
[00:15] <onishidato> but nothing happen
[00:15] <gabriel_> i just installed the no-ip client package (for dynamic ip).. umm.. how do i configure it?
[00:15] <onishidato> when i try to play some mp3 file
[00:15] <Voyage__> anyone?
[00:15] <onishidato> they said that the mp3 format is now install
[00:16] <onishidato> please restart your amarok
[00:16] <onishidato> but when i try to restart
[00:16] <onishidato> nothing happen
[00:16] <gabriel_> onishidato: u running live cd?
[00:16] <BluesKaj> do you close it in the panel too ?
[00:17] <onishidato> i close it every where
[00:17] <onishidato> i run the file in my computer
[00:17] <onishidato> not live one
[00:17] <Kingzar> anyone know how to pick the right firefox version out of the 50!?
[00:17] <genii> in bottom right do you see Amarok icon near clock?
[00:17] <onishidato> of course i close it too
[00:18] <ped> kingzar: 50? in official repository? I think the current "correct" one is simple "firefox"? I will check what I have got.
[00:18] <genii> Kingzar: Just use package manager to install "firefox"
[00:18] <genii> ped: Well there are plugins in there, they can be confusing to sort through
[00:19] <onishidato> Kingzaf: fire fox is uptodate, use adet to install it
[00:19] <onishidato> adept
[00:19] <genii> Kingzar: You have "Adept Installer" open?
[00:20] <onishidato> hey
[00:20] <onishidato> help me
[00:20] <onishidato> please
[00:20] <Kingzar> yes
[00:20] <Kingzar> but there is firefox
[00:20] <genii> Kingzar: If so in Search part put   firefox    then a space after
[00:20] <Kingzar> firefox3
[00:20] <Kingzar> firefox3.0bin
[00:20] <Kingzar> balbalbal
[00:20] <genii> Kingzar: Just firefox
[00:21] <ped> genii: not only plugins, also some dummy transitional packages. at least in 6.10 ..
[00:22] <ped> Kingzar: pure "firefox" is enough (plus it's dependencies, but Adept does mark them automatically for you)
[00:22] <Kingzar> got it
[00:23] <onishidato> hey ho
[00:24] <onishidato> can someone help me
[00:24] <ardchoille> onishidato: With what?
[00:24] <onishidato> Amarok mp3 player
[00:24] <onishidato> ahhhhh
[00:24] <Kingzar> hmm Remember anyone i told msn on kopete didn't work because of wallet.. well if i try to login on hotmail.com directly and i say store.. wallet interfering again, result password incorrect. if i say do not store, ic an login..
[00:25] <downandout> hello all
[00:25] <ped> are problems with connecting from kubuntu 7.10 on internet common? I installed it on one laptop, and whether I try wire or WiFi, I can't connect to my PC with kubu 6.10 sharing inet connection. (when I boot WXP, both WiFi and wire works just as expected) ... when I tried things like sudo dhcpclient eth0, I don't see any RX packet on the PC side on that one eth0 ... any ideas or what I should try next?
[00:26] <downandout> can someone tell me the name of the config file where kontact defines the spamfilter software it can use? Kontact isn't detecting spamassassin and i remember last time I had to change the path in that config to detect it
[00:27] <onishidato> can someone show me some mp3 player you usually use? i'm gonna hate Linux now.... grrrr
[00:27] <downandout> nevermind its kmail.antispamrc
[00:27] <downandout> good old help files :)
[00:31] <MidMark> ped: depends, do you connect to a router or to what?
[00:31] <BluesKaj> onishidato, do any other players work ?
[00:31] <onishidato> i use mplayer and it works
[00:31] <downandout> just a little suggestions for kubuntu change kmail.antispamrc "PipeCmdDetect=spamassassin -L" to  "PipeCmdDetect=spamassassin -V"
[00:31] <downandout> It will fix the detection of the antispam in kontact
[00:32] <ped> onishidato: I use amarok, works for me, but I used automatix or some ugly script like that back than when I was installing this 6.10 ... I'm trying to migrate to 7.10 lately, but lot of work with it and I'm too busy to finish it anytime soon.
[00:32] <BluesKaj> ok onishidato , then reinstall amarok with adept
[00:32] <Kingzar> !mp3
[00:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:33] <ped> MidMark: "internet setup": usb ADSL modem <-> PC with kubu 6.10 + forwarding connection trough iptables + dhcpd <-> 1) ethernet card 2) WiFi card in ad-hoc WEP
[00:34] <Kingzar> is it not possible to load mp3s in amarok from a windows drive?
[00:34] <Kingzar> i cannot play mp3s
[00:34] <Kingzar> and they are in a windows drive
[00:34] <kub^^> hi i have set a static ip with system settings | network settings but after i reboot it goes onto DHCP, how do i fix this?
[00:34] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | Kingzar
[00:34] <ubotu> Kingzar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:35] <onishidato> reinstall it
[00:35] <onishidato> ok
[00:35] <onishidato> let me try
[00:35] <BluesKaj> then relogin
[00:36] <ped> MidMark: notebook doing problems: asus S96Fm (rebranded as HAL3000, local brand probably) ... ethernet + WiFi ... in WinXP both works, the wire automagically, the WiFi after entering my password for WE P.... I booted up 7.10 liveCD, installed on disk, rebooted ... tried to connect. All I get is after several seconds the avahi-like IP. (both eth0 and wifi eth1 interfaces, whichever I try) ...
[00:37] <ped> MidMark: on the PC side when I check ifconfig eth0, there's no RX packets arriving at all from notebook. (when I try to run sudo dhcpclient on notebook .. it's writing it's sending dhcp requests several times.. .but no RX packet at all on PC side)
[00:38] <onishidato> i'm trying to install it again
[00:38] <Kingzar> is there anything about external harddisk formated under windows?
[00:39] <ped> MidMark: looks to me like either something's horribly broken in my 7.10 installation (but it's clean install from CD), or both WiFi and ethernet card drivers are bad on the CD and need recompile to work correctly.
[00:39] <MidMark> ped: ok wait a minute pls
[00:39] <ped> MidMark: should it work without anything special? I mean connecting the wire to ethernet, with DHCP server on second side? There's no magic "allow internet" button in 7.10, right?
[00:40] <MidMark> no
[00:40] <MidMark> tryied to ping www.google.it?
[00:40] <MidMark> or ping other machine?
[00:40] <ped> maybe the HW is badly detected... :/ ... pity I don't have any papers from that bug, I will probably check WXP what devices are there.
[00:41] <ped> MidMark: it's dead.. no gate, no DNS ... when I let the Knetworkmanager to connect, it ends with avahi-like self DNS config.  ... didn't try ping on my PC eth0 IP directly though.
[00:43] <onishidato> is anybody Vietnamese
[00:43] <onishidato> i need to ask a question
[00:44] <DaSkreech> !vietnam
[00:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vietnam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Silly bot
[00:44] <hdevalence> how do I pause a gui app?
[00:44] <DaSkreech> hdevalence: ctrl+Z from the command line :)
[00:44] <DaSkreech> or send it a sigstop
[00:44] <onishidato> does someone know how to intsall Unicode
[00:44] <DaSkreech> onishidato: Install Unicode?
[00:44] <hdevalence> DaSkreech: how do I do that?
[00:45] <Minataku> onishidato: I was gonna say, your English seems pretty good
[00:45] <Minataku> !unicode
[00:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unicode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:45] <Minataku> Hm
[00:45] <Minataku> I assume he means Unicode locales/fonts
[00:45] <DaSkreech> !skim
[00:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:45] <DaSkreech> !scim
[00:45] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[00:45] <Minataku> Which likely aren't stock
[00:45] <onishidato> Vietnamese unicode
[00:45] <ped> onishidato: kubuntu is long time UTF-8 default distro...
[00:45] <Minataku> I use SCIM for Japanese input. It's nice.
[00:45] <onishidato> an UTF-16
[00:45] <Minataku> onishidato: Vietnamese is included in SCIM
[00:45] <onishidato> do you guys know it?
[00:46] <ped> onishidato: if you have troubles with some app, it's probably local problem with application.
[00:46] <ped> onishidato: why utf-16?
[00:46] <onishidato> cause that is the front code for Vietnamese typing
[00:47] <ped> onishidato: utf-8 is enough + SCIM
[00:47] <onishidato> SCIM?
[00:47] <ped> onishidato: oh, *should be* enough. I hope it works, never tried it. ;) .. but that's the future. (of any linux)
 Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[00:47] <onishidato> ok
[00:48] <DaSkreech> !scim | onishidato
[00:48] <ubotu> onishidato: Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[00:48] <onishidato> let me try 1st
[00:48] <hdevalence> DaSkreech: I have acidrip running and it's going out onto an external drive
[00:48] <BluesKaj> !vn
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:48] <hdevalence> DaSkreech: but I need to go downstairs
[00:48] <onishidato> seem like linux doesn't care about Vietnam
[00:49] <Tm_T> onishidato: why so?
[00:49] <ped> onishidato: UTF-16 is used mostly in MS windows only, and as it is both more difficult to handle for old ASCII apps (UTF-8 works most of the time with legacy applications too), and yet it does not cover all characters (just like UTF-8), I don't think it has any serious future. At least outside of MS world.
[00:49] <hdevalence> DaSkreech: So, I send mencoder a sigstop, unmount the drive, do douwnstairs, remount, unstop, continue
[00:49] <onishidato> we just have one versoi of it called Hacao
[00:50] <onishidato> and that is the old versoin
[00:50] <s1icknick> any idea why an extra line with no text is created between the sentences when i run this: http://pastebin.com/d17f875d8
[00:50] <Tm_T> onishidato: "Linux" isn't company, it's up to volunteers in Vietnam I afraid
[00:50] <onishidato> only some guys
[00:51] <ped> onishida: sorry, I have no idea how much the work on vietnamesse support is complete, etc... I can just assure you the underlaying system is ready for Vietnamese, whole *buntu is by default in UTF-8 and ready for any characters/languages.
[00:52] <onishidato> you guys said that skim is good for us?
[00:53] <ped> onishidato: SCIM is pretty much a standart for .jp/korea/chinese, many people are using it.
[00:53] <onishidato> no vietnam in its keyboard layout
[00:54] <ped> onishidato: I have no idea how much work is done on Vietnam things.. sorry, I'm from europe. Try to search for some local vietnam ubuntu web/forums/wikis
[00:54] <hdevalence> how do I tell umount to ignore 'device is busy'?
[00:54] <ped> hdevalence: -f
[00:54] <hdevalence> ped: didn't work
[00:54] <DaSkreech> hdevalence: the process is not connected to your hard drive
[00:55] <ped> hdevalence: I see.. in manual it's described for "unreachable NFS" system. ... what kind of device? any idea why it is busy?
[00:55] <ped> hdevalence: did you try umount with root permissions or user only?
[00:56] <hdevalence> ped: i have acidrip ripping & encoding to an external drive; i need to go downstairs, drive must be unplugged and replugged
[00:56] <hdevalence> brb
[00:57] <DaSkreech> Yes but what you are not realising is that the process is not connected to the drive
[01:00] <DaSkreech> hdevalence: Is this the same machine downstairs?
[01:00] <onishidato> oh
[01:00] <onishidato> still can't type Vietnamese
[01:01] <onishidato> phew
[01:02]  * onishidato sings
[01:02]  * onishidato tired
[01:03] <pagan0ne> can anyone help me get a broadcom wireless card setup in 7.10? it doesnt reconize it....
[01:04] <ped> onishidato: System settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard layout -> Vietnam vn Add>>
[01:04] <ped> onishidato: I can see it there in kubu 6.10. I'm not going to try it to install and use, sorry ;)
[01:08] <pagan0ne> no takers?
[01:09] <NickPresta> pagan0ne, we're here.
[01:10] <NickPresta> pagan0ne, have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:10] <bazhang> more info would be helpful pagan0ne
[01:10] <ped> oh, weird... now the ethernet wire works.. sh*t .. I will have to figure out why/when it works
[01:10] <pagan0ne> bazhang: what more do you need?
[01:11] <pagan0ne> NickPresta: reading now
[01:28] <junkie> Hey, does anyone use refit to dualboot linux and mac os x?
[01:29] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/03/make-ubuntu-the-default-boot-on-a-macbook-refit-dual-boot-system/ junkie
[01:29] <junkie> not exactly my problem, but i'll look :)
[01:31] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 pagan0ne
[01:33] <junkie> At the moment, I am actually stuck in linux and i need to get back into mac os x
[01:33] <junkie> but refit isn't showing my os x partition
[01:34] <fusser> hola que tal
[01:34] <Tm_T> !es
[01:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:35] <junkie> So, in other words, I need to get refit to boot mac os x :)
[01:36] <Minataku> As if you'd really WANT to boot OSX
[01:36] <bazhang> it would seem so junkie
[01:36] <DaSkreech> !spain
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <DaSkreech> !brazil
[01:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:36] <DaSkreech> Heh
[01:37] <junkie> bazhang: exactly, but i just don't know how xD
[01:38] <bazhang> junkie: not exactly a kubuntu question, sorry can't be of more help--you may want to try discussions.apple.com
[01:38] <junkie> ok, thanks
[01:39] <bazhang> no problem
[01:39] <DaSkreech> !mac
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <DaSkreech> !apple
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot
[01:39] <DaSkreech> ##mac is where you want to be I think
[01:41] <ped> junkie: doesn't sound good by the way... :)
[01:43] <DaSkreech> Boot up a OSX Live DVD! :)
[01:43] <bazhang> haha
[01:43] <ped> I think booting up linux and checking up partitions there is probably better idea
[01:43] <junkie> I'm in linux now
[01:44] <junkie> I've checked everything
[01:44] <junkie> The only weird thing I noticed
[01:44] <ped> sudo fdisk -l
[01:44] <s1icknick> any way i can clean this up ??  http://pastebin.com/d4df0d676
[01:44] <junkie> was that under fdisk, the partition comes up as "Linux LVM" for System
[01:44] <ped> junkie: if you see the OSX partition there, there's still some hope
[01:44] <junkie> Which doesn't seem right
[01:44] <junkie> It's there, alright
[01:45] <ped> junkie: that's good.. if it would be missing there, it would be definitely gone. So the problem is probably with "refit" (I don't know that piece of SW at all, sorry)
[01:46] <ped> junkie: mind you, maybe it's good time to mount that OSX partition in linux (probably as read-only for safety), and copy any important data on some USB or CD/DVD ;)
[01:47] <junkie> refit is a boot loader for efi systems
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Ah right
[01:47] <DaSkreech> efi has DRM in it as I recall?
[01:48] <ped> junkie: no idea what you are talking about. (haven't seen Mac for years) Not my cup of tea.
[01:49] <junkie> DaSkreech: no idea, but i know that apple doesn't allow any access to bios settings, so probably
[01:49] <DaSkreech> That part of the reason you can't emulate a mac?
[01:50] <junkie> i don't know, to be honest
[01:50] <DaSkreech> !ot | oy DaSkreech take it elsewhere!
[01:50] <ubotu> oy DaSkreech take it elsewhere!: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:50] <DaSkreech> fine you miserable bot!
[01:50] <bazhang> haha
[01:50] <DaSkreech> junkie: ##mac ?
[01:51] <junkie> DaSkreech: no response
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Right of course
[01:51] <bazhang> junkie: mac has a bunch of forums; macfixit, insanelygreatmac, etc; they will have an answer
[01:52] <junkie> i hate forums :| hopefully one of them has an irc channel
[01:53] <DaSkreech> junkie: Well go read the forums and see if they have one :)
[01:53] <junkie> DaSkreech: oh the irony :)
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Aint it?
[01:54] <ped> night everyone
[01:54] <DaSkreech> !night
[01:54] <ubotu> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[01:55] <bazhang> http://macirc.co.uk/channels.php junkie
[01:55] <DaSkreech> oh wait
[01:55] <DaSkreech> umm
[01:55] <DaSkreech> night
[01:55] <ped> DaSkreech: nice pieace of SW, right? :D
[01:55] <ped> DaSkreech: and works globally...
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Yeah seveas did a nice job
[01:56] <ped> DaSkreech: just the timing is sort of skewed.. usually when the night is in US, it's not in Asia, etc... but it looks like nobody's going to fix it
[01:57] <DaSkreech> ped: apt-get install sun-2
[02:00] <limac> hey
[02:00] <limac> my friend has a problem, he wants to view this page: http://www.anandabazar.com/, but its showing all wierd language(an alien languge) not the languag, they call Bengali
[02:00] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea how i can resize the bottom panel in KDE4 RC2?  it looks ridiculously huge.
[02:01] <endeemm> Hi all
[02:01] <junkie> fulat2k: right click the panel, select 'configure panel' then use the resize option
[02:02] <fulat2k> junkie: tried that, but nothing comes out :)
[02:02] <limac> right click on it! and then configure panel and then resize it
[02:02] <fulat2k> limac: that was the first thing i tried :P  heheh..
[02:02] <junkie> It works for me
[02:02] <endeemm> any one wana help me setup compiz
[02:02] <ardchoille> !compiz | endeemm
[02:02] <ubotu> endeemm: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:02] <limac> edit the pixles size!
[02:03] <endeemm> thanx
[02:03] <limac> fulat2k: ^
[02:03] <fulat2k> limac: hmm... k.  lemme finish the latest update and try again...
[02:05] <junkie> hm i have an idea
[02:05] <junkie> does anyone know what 'lvm' means?
[02:05] <ardchoille> junkie: Linux Virtual Machine
[02:06] <NickPresta> junkie, or Linux Volume Management, I believe
[02:06] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Ah, good catch
[02:06] <junkie> Hm
[02:06] <NickPresta> Logical Volume Manager, actually. :)
[02:06] <junkie> How do i mark a partition as not hidden in fdisk?
[02:09] <genii> junkie: You mean a hidden ntfs?
[02:09] <bazhang> os x
[02:09] <bazhang> hfs+ that is
[02:10] <junkie> yea i found a thread on the ubuntuforums that said that someone had a similar problem and unhiding the hfs+ parition did the trick
[02:10] <junkie> and taking away the 'lvm' mark
[02:10] <junkie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2585601&postcount=19
[02:12] <alirio> necesito ayuda urgente
[02:12] <Minataku> !es
[02:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:12] <alirio> gracias
[02:13] <Cyclopes> i have a couple of network interfaces that i want to remove, although there is nothing about them in /etc/network/interfaces , is there anywhere else i should look for?
[02:14] <junkie> So, i need to know how to take off the hidden flag
[02:14] <junkie> any ideas?
[02:17] <stuffcorpse> hi, in kde4rc2 i locked my session but my password doesnt not seem to work in unlocking. does anyone have this problem?
[02:22] <DaSkreech> !info seamonkey hardy
[02:22] <ubotu> seamonkey: The Seamonkey Internet Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB
[02:23] <junkie> okay something
[02:24] <junkie> i did 'fdisk /dev/sda'
[02:24] <junkie> then did 't'
[02:24] <junkie> and seletected the os x partition
[02:24] <junkie> but what system would it be?
[02:24] <junkie> i don't see hfs+
[02:24] <mschiff_> is it a known bug that the startkde script in kde4rc2 packages sets VARs before the shee bang?
[02:25] <junkie> anyone?
[02:26] <maduser> what?
[02:26] <mjus> eh i need some help
[02:26] <maduser> with what?
[02:27] <mjus> my kubuntu doesn`t mount my usb pendrives
[02:27] <maduser> hmm
[02:27] <maduser> pendrives?
[02:28] <maduser> like removable flash drives?
[02:28] <mjus> when i joint my usb kde show system dialogue(kde daemom)  but when i choose open a new window for watch my usb it doesn`t open
[02:29] <maduser> what kind of usb is this?
[02:29] <mjus> is a marvision
[02:29] <maduser> does it have u3?
[02:29] <mjus> but when i install kubuntu it worked very good, but now i dont know what happened
[02:30] <mjus> somebody knows how can i fix it problem???
[02:30] <maduser> does the drive have the U3 program on it?
[02:31] <sfears> what program are you using to view your usb drive?
[02:31] <mjus> actually i dont know
[02:31] <maduser> does it say u3 some where on the case?
[02:31] <mjus> what is u3?
[02:32] <maduser> it a progam that interfers
[02:32] <maduser> made for windows
[02:32] <mjus> mmm i dont know
[02:33] <mjus> only show the dialogue but dont made nothing action for instance show files in a new window
[02:33] <maduser> why di all my google pages apear in spanish when i look up  marvision
[02:34] <maduser> whats the model name?
[02:34] <sfears> mjus what program are you using to view your usb drive.. trying to use to view your usb drive?
[02:35] <mjus> i dont know i only know that always shown a window with options(named kde daemon)
[02:36] <sfears> there's no usb icon that shows up on your desktop?
[02:36] <mjus> no
[02:36] <mjus> dont show nothing usb in the desktop
[02:36] <kenpachi> como puedo desactivar el ipv6
[02:36] <fulat2k> limac: darn, still nothing.  can't even resize teh icons for Pnale.
[02:36] <fulat2k> Panel
[02:36] <mjus> before show an icon but now no
[02:36] <maduser> !es
[02:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:36] <mjus> before show an icon but now no
[02:36] <sfears> at a command promt type "ls /home/(your user name)/media" and tell me what's in there
[02:37] <limac> srry dude that's all I got!
[02:37] <sfears> make sure your usb device is plugged in
[02:37] <kenpachi> gracias
[02:37] <limac> see ya!
[02:37] <sfears> later
[02:37] <mjus> yes is plugged
[02:37] <sfears> ls /home/user name/media
[02:38] <mjus> doent`exist the directory
[02:38] <sfears> sorry..
[02:38] <sfears> ls /media
[02:39] <mjus> cdrom  cdrom0  sda1  usb  usb0  usb1  usb2  usb3  usb4  usb5  usb6  usb7
[02:39] <sfears> how many usb devices do you have plugged in?
[02:39] <mjus> 1
[02:39] <sfears> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:39] <mjus> ???????
[02:39] <sfears> use that pastebin site to list your fstab file.. from command "cat /etc/fstab" & paste to that site
[02:40] <maduser> certain divices have programs on them these programs can interfier with thier use, what is the model name of the drive?
[02:41] <mjus> it isnt the problem maduser becoiuse i had used my usb before and had`nt problem
[02:41] <maduser> ok
[02:41] <mjus> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[02:42] <maduser> on kubuntu?
[02:42] <mjus> #
[02:42] <mjus> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:42] <mjus> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[02:42] <mjus> /dev/hdc2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:42] <mjus> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:42] <mjus> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:42] <mjus> yes
[02:42] <sfears> no... use !pastebin
[02:42] <sfears> !pastebin
[02:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <mjus> !pastebin
[02:42] <mjus> !pastebin
[02:42] <mjus> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[02:42] <mjus> #
[02:42] <mjus> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:42] <mjus> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[02:42] <mjus> /dev/hdc2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:42] <mjus> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:42] <mjus> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Strike 2
[02:42] <DaSkreech> !paste | mjus
[02:42] <ubotu> mjus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:43] <DaSkreech> mjus: Do NOT paste here
[02:43] <mjus> then???
[02:43] <DaSkreech> go to that website and paste there. then give us the resulting URL
[02:44] <mjus> ok
[02:44] <mjus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48036/
[02:44] <DaSkreech> mjus: Thank you ;)
[02:45] <draik> Hello all
[02:46] <draik> How do I keep the router IP and my IP address in Network Manager?
[02:46] <fulat2k> draik: use static ip.
[02:46] <draik> Everytime I boot, I have to enter the router IP along with the configuration of my IP
[02:46] <draik> fulat2k: I do, but it keeps "forgetting" my router IP
[02:46] <draik> I don't have 'net access when I login
[02:47] <mjus> sfears some idea?
[02:47] <sfears> ohh.. my bad.. let me look
[02:48] <sfears> i'm wondering why you have so many usb devices listed in your /media folder
[02:48] <mjus> i dont know
[02:48] <fulat2k> draik: uhh... where do u set ur router IP?
[02:49] <sfears> open konqueror.. naviage to /media.. right click on those usb devices & see if there's an unmount or eject option
[02:49] <sfears> if there is unmount all of them
[02:49] <sfears> only the usb devices
[02:49] <mjus> ok
[02:50] <mjus> no nithing
[02:50] <mjus> all are directories
[02:50] <sfears> are any of them your usb drive
[02:50] <mjus> no
[02:50] <refreshrate> ill install firefox, and itll work for a couple reboots, but then i get a bus error, i reinstall firefox and itll work again for a couple reboots. what gives?
[02:52] <sfears> are you 100% sure you don't have any other usb devices plugged in.. printer/modem/camera?
[02:53] <draik> Why am I losing my router's IP address after every boot?
[02:53] <sfears> are you hard wired to it draik?
[02:53] <sfears> or are you using wireless?
[02:53] <draik> sfears: hard wire
[02:53] <sfears> what do you have to do to connect?
[02:54] <draik> sfears: Enter the router IP, disable ethernet device and then enable it again to get an IP
[02:55] <sfears> and you pay extra to your ISP to have a static IP?
[02:55] <sfears> you normally don't need to specify an IP.. it assigns automatically
[02:55] <sfears> it's called a dynamic IP
[02:55] <draik> sfears: It's not static.
[02:55] <sfears> alright.. then you can proally skip the specify IP part
[02:56] <sfears> you just need to tell your computer to optain automatically.. and let it know to connect.. should be able to set any of that in knetwork manager?
[02:56] <draik> sfears: Ok, but how do I make it stop forgetting my router IP?
[02:56] <sfears> do you have knetwork manager install
[02:56] <draik> Yes
[02:56] <sfears> it doesn't matter if it forgets.. you just need to tell it to grab one when you boot up
[02:57] <sfears> it may always be different.. so if it forgets it's ok.. it will just obtain a new one
[02:57] <draik> How do I make it obtain an IP when I boot?
[02:57] <draik> That's the issue
[02:57] <sfears> i'm looking
[02:58] <sfears> right click on your knetwork manager icon & manual config
[02:58] <draik> Ok
[02:59] <sfears> in the network interfaces tab highlight your connection eth0 or wlan2 or whatever it happens to be.. & configure interface
[02:59] <draik> Ok
[02:59] <sfears> set tcp/ip to auto make sure dhcp is selected in the drop down & make sure activate when computer starts is checked
[03:00] <draik> 10-4
[03:01] <sfears> try that and see what happens.. should work just like that
[03:01] <sfears> might as well power cycle your modem & router while you reboot
[03:02] <tomas_> after installing l KDE 4 RC 2, when I try to login in the first time I get the following error "(process:13616): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or set
[03:02] <tomas_> gid.
[03:02] <tomas_> ".  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the problem?" thanks.
[03:05] <draik> sfears: Thank you. It works
[03:05] <sfears> kick ass
[03:05] <sfears> your welcome
[03:07] <sfears> tomas_.. ctrl+alt+f1 to terminal and type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that will ask you a couple of questions about your video, mouse & keyboard hardware.. answer the best you can.. when it asks about the video driver pick vesa and when it gets to resolution settings pick 800x600 or 1024x768.. it may be a video driver conflit.. those settings are very basic
[03:08] <sfears> the vesa @ 800x600 are very basic settings
[03:08] <sfears> you may lose some of your advanced hardware effects but at least you may be able to boot into your system
[03:08] <sfears> advanced video hardware effects*
[03:09] <tomas_> thanks sfears.  I'll try that.
[03:09] <sfears> no prob
[03:12] <jalbert> hey everybody
[03:12] <jalbert> I'm psyched
[03:12] <sfears> hello jalbert
[03:12] <sfears> psyched about what?
[03:12] <jalbert> I just made a Skype call on my Kubuntu laptop
[03:12] <sfears> nice.. worked well?
[03:12] <jalbert> yeah
[03:12] <jalbert> worked great
[03:12] <jalbert> better than it ever did on Windows
[03:13] <sfears> i've been thinking about getting some kind of voip account.. haven't quite made up my mind yet
[03:13] <sfears> what was better about it?
[03:13] <jalbert> the person on the other end said I sounded good
[03:13] <sfears> sound quality?
[03:13] <jalbert> yeah
[03:13] <sfears> yeah.. cool
[03:13] <jalbert> no breaking up, no lag
[03:13] <jalbert> no weird modulation distortion
[03:13] <sfears> that's surprising.. shouldn't make must of a difference.. might have a diffferent priority set on linux
[03:14] <jalbert> I wonder if they've upgraded their vocoder software or something
[03:14] <sfears> you can do the same thing on windows.. ctrl+alt+delete.. and from the processes tab right click on the skype process & set to highest priority.. might clear up your windows issue
[03:14] <BluesKaj> prolly written on and using linux servers
[03:14] <jalbert> well I think the AV software I was running probably had something to do with it
[03:15] <jalbert> this is a 2.8 GHz P4 laptop
[03:15] <sfears> could be a million things.. glad to hear it's working good though
[03:15] <jalbert> hey is there an easy way to delete an erroneous mount-point?
[03:16] <sfears> edit your /etc/fstab file
[03:16] <jalbert> did that already
[03:16] <jalbert> I guess I'm going to have to look it over again
[03:16] <jalbert> must have missed something
[03:16] <sfears> depends what you mean by mount point.. an actual mount point is a partition
[03:17] <jalbert> well, I have an alias in a directory that points to the wrong place
[03:17] <sfears> the only way to delete a partition is to edit your partition tables.. if by mount point you mean a hard drive that shows up on your desktop.. then it's proally something you misssed in your fstab file
[03:17] <jalbert> it's actually the alias I have to get rid of
[03:18] <sfears> that might be a little different
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> The mount location is usually just a directory, isn't it?
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> i.e. /media/whatever
[03:18] <sfears> yeah.. but some directories are actually physical partitions
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> So you should be able to just rmdir /media/whatever
[03:19] <sfears> like your /home folder.. is a physical location on your hard drive
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> (after you've unmounted the partition, of course)
[03:19] <sfears> usually
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Sort of
[03:19] <sfears> correct
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> It's actually the physical partition that's mounted to the location /home
[03:19] <sfears> in the /home case it is
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> You could unmount it, delete /home, and mount the partition again at /house if you really wanted to
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Stuff that looks for /home would break, of course, but that's a different issue
[03:20] <sfears> not sure on that one.. i think it's defined in the partition table.. so you might not be able to change the name.. i think that's basic how linux works kinda stuff.. has to have a /home folder to function
[03:21] <lovedeatm> im using gaim..is the anyway to have it sense a message that has been sent and have it react tot hat message. so for instance if someone said hey that woudl tell gaim to shutdown?
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Well, /home is a bad example because so much system stuff depends on it
[03:21] <sfears> post your fstab file to pastebin if you want me to take a look at it.. i'll see if i see something in there
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, the mount location isn't stored in the partition at all
[03:21] <sfears> as far as your alisa no it's not
[03:22] <sfears> alias*
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> It's fstab and friends that define what directory the partition is mounted in
[03:22] <sfears> !pastebin
[03:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <sfears> fstab makes links from partitions to folders.. so you could load /home to /house.. but /home would still be there too
[03:30] <lovedeatm> im using gaim..is the anyway to have it sense a message that has been sent and have it react to that message. so for instance if someone said hey that woudl tell gaim to shutdown?
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> There may be some plugin that can execute commands based on incoming text
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> Might want to try #pidgin or asking on their message board or mailing list
[03:36] <Voyage__> using firestarter. but it auto vanishes from sys tray. why.. its not runing i guess if its not in the tray.
[03:42] <lovedeatm> thanks
[03:44] <bmk789> how can i install grub from the liveCD to use my HD install again, grub gives an error 17
[03:57] <Voyage__> can any one please recomend an irc client most similer to mirc (thats used in windows) ?
[03:58] <Tm_T> Voyage__: perhaps ksirc
[03:58] <Tm_T> or, X-chat
[03:58] <Tm_T> or something else
[03:59] <Voyage__> Tm_T nop
[04:00] <Tm_T> meh
[04:00] <Tm_T> !irc
[04:00] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:00] <Tm_T> I'm only using irssi <3
[04:04] <coteyr> ok, so I am trying to get firefox to play nice with my media server. It provides a browser interface and a link to media. I want to llink to open in an external player not save to disk.
[04:04] <coteyr> mozilla some time ago used ot have options that let you say open with application and then had a checkbox for just passing the link to that app
[04:05] <coteyr> thats what I need, but I can't find that option any more, anyone know of an addon or something that can make that happen
[04:05] <coteyr> (for the record konqueror does it fine but can handel the extensive Javascript on the site ver well
[04:05] <coteyr> )
[04:08] <coteyr> join #mediatomb
[04:16] <deuryte> 21:55
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[04:16] <deuryte> sfears: right click on your knetwork manager icon & manual config
[04:16] <deuryte> draik: Ok
[04:23] <lovedeatm> any of you know any apps that are GUI and help ypu build and learn how to build oyu own plugins....and or wanna teach me how to..specificly for gaim
[04:25] <biovore> http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins  <-- very bottom of the page
[05:03] <ubuntu> is there a way of reading .exe files on linux?
[05:04] <genii> "reading"
[05:04] <genii> You mean you want to execute them like on a windows system?
[05:04] <ubuntu> yeyeye
[05:05] <genii> ubuntu: With the program wine some things will run, other things won't. You can always try it
[05:05] <ubuntu> i got kubuntu 7.10
[05:05] <ubuntu> im new to using this
[05:06] <genii> install wine from adept
[05:06] <ubuntu> so i dont really know anything
[05:06] <genii> eg: kmenu ... add and remove programs... in search panel put wine
[05:06] <ubuntu> kk
[05:06] <ubuntu> thanks
[05:08] <genii> ubuntu: If you don't find it there, instead open Konsole and type:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install wine
[05:09] <genii> ubuntu: Then after it installs... go to the exe you had got, right-click.Choose "open with wine windows emulator"
[05:09] <genii> etc
[05:10] <ubuntu> kk
[05:10] <ubuntu> thanks alot
[05:10] <ubuntu> hwo you change kubuntu wallpaper?
[05:10] <ubuntu> are there themes?
[05:10] <genii> ubuntu: I'll be here a bit longer if you experience problems or have questions
[05:11] <ubuntu> left click config?
[05:11] <genii> themes and wallpapers are different questins
[05:11] <genii> *questions
[05:11] <genii> ubuntu: To change wallpaper, on open area of screen: rightclick...choose Configure Desktop
[05:12] <genii> leftclick=normal button rightclick=other button
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> ya got the 'right' button then ya got the 'wrong' button. :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> 'click the right mouse button' -- Wife "How do i know which one is the RIght one! You never told me which one was the right one!"
[05:15] <Dr_willis_> So i wrote a big L and R on the mouse buttons.
[05:15] <Dr_willis_> :P
[05:15] <kaankee> hi... can anyone tell me from where i can get the pljava installed for postgresql 8.2 in kubuntu
[05:20] <Daemon--> anyone about? trying to install kubuntu on a vm and it says my CPU doesnt support long mode please use a 32bit distribution, whats long mode?
[05:21] <Dr_willis_> You are trying to install the 64bit ubuntu on a virtual machine thats set up to be a 32bit vm perhaps?
[05:22] <Daemon--> right, thats a microsoft thing then
[05:22]  * Dr_willis_ missed where this has to do with microsoft at all...
[05:23] <Daemon--> microsoft virtual pc im using
[05:24] <genii_> Bah got booted
[05:24] <Dr_willis_> THeres also vmware and virtual box you could be using...
[05:25] <Dr_willis_> Im still not sure they can emulate a 64bit cpu on a 32bit machine..  Never really tried it. :)
[05:25] <Daemon--> im on a x64 bit machine buddy
[05:26] <Dr_willis_> are you running the 64bit version of windows?
[05:26] <Daemon--> yeah xp x64
[05:27] <Dr_willis_> sounds like a bug in ms's virtual pc then to me. File a Bug report. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis_> Im guessing they are using the term Long mode for 64bit addressing - Heck they could be refering to somthing totally unlreated, ms is good about taht
[05:28] <Daemon--> wel doesnt give you the option buddy
[05:29] <Dr_willis_> You may want to check out Vmware or Virtual box then.   Im not even sure they have 64bit versions either.
[05:29] <Dr_willis_> Virtual box does.. :) i just looked.
[05:30] <Daemon--> vmware works yeah but im only playing with it, downloading the i386 version now
[05:30] <Daemon--> infact its just finnished
[05:31] <Dr_willis_> I tend to have linux run the virtual machines :) and run windows inside the vm's
[05:32] <Daemon--> i386 version is working
[05:32] <Daemon--> im just testing it before i move over to linux fully
[05:33] <Dr_willis_> I mainly use the various vm's to test out live cd iso's :) saves me burning disks
[05:35] <lgasiii> hello
[05:41] <Dr_willis_> Howdy
[05:42]  * Dr_willis_ wonders how fast in theory a external USB DVD burner can burn at.. 8x? 16x faster?
[05:42] <Dr_willis_> usb2 of course. :)
[05:56] <Law506> Hi, fresh install of Kubuntu and when I try to run Adeptic Package Manager it keeps telling me something else is using it?  Even after a restart it gives me this.
[05:57] <Dr_willis_> !fixadept
[05:57] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:57] <genii> or close the update manager
[05:57] <Dr_willis_> yes. be sure all other programs using the package systems are closed
[05:58] <Law506> alright, I will do, thanks
[05:58] <genii> Dr_willis_: btw my 8x external usb burner is limited to 2x because auto speed detection over the usb doesn't work
[05:59] <Dr_willis_> This one seems to be doing 16x from what k3b is saying.. I was impressed it could do that.
[06:00] <genii> interesting
[06:00] <Dr_willis_> I built a external dvd burner today from a case and spare dvd burner i had. :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis_> k3b may be lieing I guess. :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis_> 3 min and its like 1/3 the way done on a 4.4 gb disk
[06:01] <Dr_willis_> I do notice the device buffer going from 99% then down and down then down to 10% - then back up.. :)
[06:11] <genii> Dr_willis_: googling tells me due to chipset in my enclosure is why no speed detection
[06:14] <Dr_willis_> bummer. :()
[06:35] <kaankee> is ./configure present in kubuntu.... when i type it it is sayin no such file exists
[06:36] <ardchoille> kaankee: ./configure simply tells the system to run the configure script located in the directory you are currently in.. it's not an app
[06:36] <kaankee> k... thanks a lot... i am new to linux... thanks for helping me
[06:37] <ardchoille> kaankee: What are you attempting to configure/compile?
[06:37] <kaankee> postgresql 8.2
[06:38] <K`zan> Ho folks, what is the preferred method for getting the nvidia proprietary drivers installed?
[06:38] <Tm_T> !nvidia | K`zan
[06:38] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:38] <K`zan> Download and install them that way, if so I seem to be missing libc
[06:38] <ardchoille> kaankee: Are you aware that postgresql-8.2 is in the repos?
[06:38] <K`zan> Tm_T: Checking now, thanks!
[06:38] <ardchoille> !info postgresql-8.2
[06:38] <ubotu> postgresql-8.2: object-relational SQL database, version 8.2 server. In component main, is optional. Version 8.2.5-1.1 (gutsy), package size 3173 kB, installed size 11828 kB
[06:42] <K`zan> Tm_T: Thank you very much, quite painless :-).
[06:43] <kaankee> postgresql is available in package manager ardchoille
[06:43] <ardchoille> kaankee: yes
[06:44] <kaankee> ya its available but i am not able to get pljava there
[06:53] <xyvuoeua> how do I make konquerer the default for files ?
[06:54] <xyvuoeua> i think this dolphin thing is pathetic and im annoyed by it
[06:56] <xyvuoeua> BYE DOLPHIN SUCKA
[06:56] <xyvuoeua> apt-get remove dolphin
[06:56] <Tm_T> ...
[06:57] <malayster> helo
[06:57] <malayster> all
[06:57] <malayster> nice
[06:57] <malayster> aa
[06:57] <mrukus> how can i open a folder as a root user
[06:57] <mrukus> through conqueror
[06:58] <ardchoille> mrukus: Be careful with that, one wrong move can mess up your system:  kdesudo konqueror /path/to/desired/folder
[07:01] <waltercool_Eee> uh... someone know why when i plug in the power cable to my laptop, kmail is opened??
[07:03] <Neville> Coolness? =P
[07:03] <waltercool_Eee> :S
[07:04] <mrukus> no through the terminal though
[07:05] <mrukus> i want to paste a module to a file
[07:05] <mrukus> and it says access denied
[07:05] <mrukus> isn't there a way to open a folder as a root without using the terminal
[07:05] <mrukus> oh wait i see
[07:07] <waltercool_Eee> someone??
[07:08] <Lynoure> waltercool_Eee: no idea, sorry.
[07:08] <mrukus> boy does this stuff get frustrating
[07:09] <mrukus> i just got the system right when somthing happened and had to do a fresh install
[07:09] <mrukus> getting the wireless to work was a shore last time and is even more so this time
[07:09] <mrukus> i always get error msgs and nothign ever turns out as planned
[07:11] <Kveldulf> would someone like to help me with some stupid newbie probs?
[07:11] <waltercool_Eee> Lynoure: oh, ty :)
[07:13] <mrukus> what does this error mean when i go to make a file
[07:13] <mrukus> make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
[07:13] <mrukus> it worked like a couple of hours ago when i tried to make it
[07:13] <nareshov> make sure you're in the right directory
[07:13] <nareshov> do you see a Makefile in the working dir ?
[07:14] <mrukus> yup
[07:14] <Kveldulf> ja ok i didnt really suppose so
[07:14] <acee12345> i added a partition through windows and it killed gnome error 17 any ideas n a fix . i have a live cd
[07:14] <nareshov> mrukus: you probably need to run `make clean` first then
[07:14] <nareshov> acee12345: did it touch any of the linux partitions?
[07:14] <acee12345> i dont think so
[07:15] <mrukus> yayy
[07:15] <mrukus> thanks,
[07:15] <mrukus> what did that do?
[07:15] <nareshov> mrukus: read the Makefile
[07:16] <Kveldulf> laterb then, thanks
[07:16] <acee12345>  nareshov: i dont thinkso
[07:18] <acee12345>  nareshov: ia there an easy way to reconfigure grub
[07:18] <acee12345>  nareshov: imeant to say grub not gnome
[07:18] <nareshov> using a livecd
[07:19] <acee12345>  nareshov: im new to linux could you guide me a bit
[07:20] <acee12345>  nareshov: imbooting off the live cd now
[07:20] <nareshov> acee12345: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[07:21] <acee12345>  nareshov: thank you
[07:22] <acee12345> how to i figure out wich partition to use?
[07:22] <nareshov> fdisk -l
[07:25] <acee12345> do the oartitions effect my input?
[07:25] <acee12345> partitions
[07:27] <acee12345> if so my system is dual boot do i just enter the second partition aswell in that case?
[07:27] <milestone> hi all
[07:27] <milestone> a question to the kde4-rc2 pkgs
[07:27] <milestone> it says on the wiki that the packages will be availably on gutsy-backports
[07:28] <milestone> the backports packages will also install under /usr/lib/kde4?
[07:28] <sigma_kubuntu> acee12345: what do u mean?
[07:28] <Tm_T> milestone: yes
[07:28] <milestone> Tm_T: and they are also named kde4-...?
[07:29] <Tm_T> milestone: yes
[07:29] <Tm_T> milestone: pretty much same packages
[07:30] <acee12345> i dont know what to input the fdisk -l didnt show me a list of partitions or drives
[07:30] <sigma_kubuntu> how is kontact in kde4? last time i checked all the icons were messed up
[07:31] <sigma_kubuntu> acee12345: use qparted
[07:32] <acee12345> command not found
[07:34] <nareshov> I've heard that kopete will finally support HTTP proxy in KDE 4.1
[07:34] <sigma_kubuntu> its a program u must install
[07:34] <milestone> Tm_T: how stable is kde4?
[07:34] <nareshov> milestone: it's rc2 right now and it most apps don't start on my amd64 installation
[07:34] <milestone> right now i have installed kde4-rc1 and set re-set the kde home directory
[07:34] <Tm_T> milestone: depends, in my use it doesn't crash, is that stable? I don't know
[07:35] <milestone> well it looks great
[07:35] <Tm_T> but I'm not "end-user" so...
[07:35] <acee12345>  sigma_kubuntu: qparted doesnt activate through console
[07:35] <milestone> i am a gnome user and anxious to really use it
[07:35] <nareshov> sudo qparted
[07:35] <nareshov> milestone: me too :P
[07:35] <milestone> because i really think that you can be more productive with kde but IMHO gnome still "looks" nicer
[07:35] <acee12345>  sigma_kubuntu: an all root([hd],[part]) i try get a "unrecognised command responce
[07:36] <acee12345> reinstall kubuntu?
[07:36] <milestone> compared to kde 3.5.8
[07:36] <nareshov> acee12345: tell me the partition number corresponding to type 83 in `fdisk -l`
[07:37] <Neville> I'm off to play with my first ever SATA hard disk
[07:37] <Neville> Wish me luck =]
[07:37] <emilsedgh> milestone: well, kde default settings suck, but if you customize it, it will look much better
[07:37] <acee12345> nareshov: "sudo" was needed to display
[07:37] <nareshov> true
[07:38] <acee12345> nareshov: type "83" where?
[07:38] <nareshov> milestone: run kersonalizer and choose OSX and you're in for a surprise :D
[07:38] <Tm_T> milestone: hmm, look, interesting, have you seen something like this? http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[07:38] <nareshov> acee12345: Id
[07:38] <Tm_T> nareshov: nownow, no need to cursing
[07:38] <acee12345> nareshov: under id 83 is /dev/sda7
[07:38] <nareshov> Tm_T: :D
[07:38] <milestone> emilsedgh: persuade me
[07:39] <nareshov> acee12345: in the grub> prompt
[07:39] <nareshov> type root (hd0,6)
[07:39] <Tm_T> milestone: btw feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <nareshov> and then 'setup (hd0)'
[07:39] <nareshov> and 'quit'
[07:40] <waltercool_Eee> exist a method to trace what open me an app??
[07:40] <milestone> Tm_T: ahh right ;)
[07:40] <acee12345> nareshov: ok will this enable windows aswell?
[07:40] <apparle> -do I need an antivirus? I have dualboot Windows and a good antivirus on wndows. Also I donot have internet connection
[07:40] <apparle> 	waltercool_Eee: what??
[07:41] <nareshov> acee12345: not unless you add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:41] <acee12345> nareshov: how do i do that
[07:41] <sub[t]rnl> apparle: You wont need an anti virus for linux
[07:41] <nareshov> acee12345: do that fdisk -l thing again and look for the partition number corresponding to your windows installation
[07:42] <waltercool_Eee> apparle: when i plug the power cable, kmail is opened, i want know what opens kmail and how disable it
[07:42] <emilsedgh> milestone: well, i cant, you should get it yourself
[07:42] <acee12345> nareshov: dev/sda1 so "root (hd0,1)"?
[07:42] <apparle> nareshov: I think somehting like update-grub which will do everything
[07:42] <nareshov> no, (hd0,0)
[07:42] <acee12345> ok
[07:42] <nareshov> apparle: not sure
[07:42] <waltercool_Eee> apparle: some idea?
[07:43] <nareshov> acee12345: you need an entry like:
[07:43] <nareshov> in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <nareshov> title        Windows something
[07:43] <nareshov> root        (hd0,0)
[07:43] <nareshov> chainloader +1
[07:43] <nareshov> :wq
[07:44] <apparle> waltercool_Eee: do you shutdown the computer with Kmail running
[07:45] <waltercool_Eee> apparle: im in a laptop xD
[07:45] <milestone> emilsedgh: :)
[07:45] <acee12345> nareshov: ok working great again thank you
[07:45] <waltercool_Eee> apparle: but nvm, i have fixed now that (i have remove a lot of packages and reinstall... and works... :P)
[07:46] <sigma> is it illegal to use the kubuntu logo on my website?
[07:47] <apparle> when I run command lne at grub menu what is the command to boot linux
[07:48] <nareshov> apparle: you got the command line via "c" ?
[07:48] <apparle> nareshov: ya
[07:49] <nareshov> hmm, something like "root (hd0,<TAB> should show you something
[07:49] <apparle> sigma: maybe. See the t&c
[07:49] <nareshov> choose the right one (number) and complete it - say, (hd0,2)
[07:50] <nareshov> and then do "kernel /boot/<TAB>" - select the right one
[07:50] <nareshov> and then the same thing with "initrd /boot/<TAB>"
[07:50] <nareshov> and boot
[07:51] <apparle> nareshov: what do you mean by "and boot"
[07:51] <nareshov> like, press "b" ?
[07:52] <apparle> nareshov: ok thanks
[07:52] <mrukus> im sooo close
[07:52] <mrukus> no i get this error
[07:53] <mrukus> mrukus@mrukus-laptop:~/ar5007eg-32-0.2/ar5007eg$ sudo ndiswrapper _i net5211.inf
[07:53] <mrukus> sudo: ndiswrapper: command not found
[07:53] <nareshov> heh
[07:53] <nareshov> is it installed?
[07:53] <mrukus> it says its not
[07:53] <mrukus> and then i run the command it says to install it
[07:53] <mrukus> then it says the newest version of ndiswrapper-common is already installed
[07:54] <nareshov> hmm
[07:54] <apparle> anybody here uses Kdevelop
[07:54] <mrukus> if i just type ndiswrapper into the terminal, it says
[07:54] <mrukus> The program 'ndiswrapper' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[07:54] <mrukus> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[07:54] <mrukus> bash: ndiswrapper: command not found
[07:54] <mrukus> so i run that line
[07:54] <nareshov> hmm
[07:54] <apparle> anybody uses kdevelop??
[07:55] <nareshov> looks like a bug :}
[07:55] <mrukus> ndiswrapper-common is already the newest version.
[07:55] <mrukus> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 148 not upgraded.
[07:55] <mrukus> how do i fix it?
[07:55] <nareshov> (not upgrading?)
[07:55] <mrukus> how do i find an older version
[07:56] <apparle> mrukus: IMHO do one thing remove it from adept and then install it
[07:57] <apparle> how to fix this error.I get it while configuring source codes "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:57] <apparle> "
[07:57] <mrukus> how do i remove it from the system?
[07:57] <mrukus> will synaptic do that for me?
[07:58] <nareshov> apparle: you probably need xserver-xorg-dev installed
[07:58] <nareshov> or xorg-dev
[07:58] <apparle> nareshov: I have it installed
[07:58] <nareshov> hmm
[07:59] <apparle> nareshov: tell mrukus the command I am new to CLI
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> mrukus: sudo apt-get remove (sudo apt-get --purge remove to remove configuration files as well)
[08:00] <nareshov> apparle: what are you trying to do? why do you need the X libs ?
[08:00] <apparle> how to fix this error.I get it while configuring source codes "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[08:04] <apparle> nareshov: Iam trying to develop a gui using Kdevelop designer and get this error
[08:04] <nareshov> ah
[08:05] <emilsedgh> apparle: you should install xorg dev package
[08:05] <emilsedgh> apparle: i think thats xlibs-dev or something like this
[08:05] <nareshov> xorg-dev should install the whole thing, right?
[08:05] <apparle> emilsedgh: tell me the complete name. xlibs-dev does not exist for gutsy
[08:06] <nareshov> apparle: try xorg-dev, I think you only have xserver-xorg-dev
[08:06] <apparle> bye everyone
[08:06] <emilsedgh> apparle: thats xorg-dev
[08:06] <TheFishy> what is the the "Lost & Found" start up menu for?
[08:06] <apparle> thanks everyone
[08:06] <emilsedgh> apparle: also you need kde headers
[08:06] <Assid> anyone played with kde4 ?
[08:06] <nareshov> TheFishy: lost & found apps :D
[08:06] <emilsedgh> Assid: sure
[08:06] <TheFishy> explain how an APP is lost
[08:07] <nareshov> those which don't have a proper XDG menu entry, for example?
[08:07] <Assid> emilsedgh: hows it ?
[08:07] <user___> how far is kde4 ? i have been without net for a while
[08:07] <emilsedgh> Assid: for a Major release, good.
[08:07] <nareshov> user__ rc2 came out a couple of days ago
[08:07] <Assid> user___: rc2
[08:08] <user___> cool so it will be finale when i get back to the civiliced world :)
[08:08] <nareshov> heh
[08:08] <Assid> emilsedgh: i actually got ubuntu installed instaled of kubuntu on my lappy
[08:08] <Assid> any difference if i just apt-get install it ?
[08:08] <nareshov> which unciviliced part of the world are you in ? :D
[08:09] <nareshov> Assid: you want to remove gnome and install jde ?
[08:09] <nareshov> kde*
[08:09] <emilsedgh> Assid: install what? kde4? yes, but for testing use apt-get
[08:09] <emilsedgh> Assid: to install kubuntu back, just install kubuntu-desktop
[08:09] <Assid> nareshov: nah, i can use gdm to choose what to go into
[08:10] <user___> nareshov: traveling laos at the moment by bike ...
[08:10] <nareshov> user___: woah
[08:10] <Assid> somehow my ati +compiz behaves better under ubuntu
[08:10] <Pisht> Just a question, I have an older kubuntu on disk, does it update to what is currently released or do I need to DL the new version from the site and burn to disk again?
[08:10] <nareshov> Pisht: how old?
[08:10] <Pisht> I'm not sure, older than the current version
[08:11] <Pisht> I'll have to check, i'm just setting up the PC again which has it on.
[08:11] <Pisht> i need to find a 2nd keyboard or this will get ugly
[08:11] <nareshov> heh
[08:11] <Pisht> ugh i don't think i have one
[08:11] <ardchoille> Pisht: Open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a | grep -i release
[08:11] <Pisht> yep yep 1 sec
[08:12] <Assid> i think i will dl the livecd and play with that first
[08:13] <Assid> brb.. changing networks
[08:15] <Assid> back
[08:16] <Assid> so anwyays.. will play with kde4
[08:16] <emilsedgh> Assid: have fun!
[08:16] <Assid> i really wanna move my windows machine away onto linux
[08:16] <Assid> stupid microsoft has issues reading ram over 1gb i think
[08:17] <sigma> i need to find sum1 to steal the new kde4 cd from
[08:17] <atwo> ok
[08:17] <atwo> what was that command?
[08:18] <atwo> < Pisht
[08:18] <ardchoille> atwo: Open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a | grep -i release
[08:18] <atwo> terminal = run command?
[08:18] <nareshov> atwo: in a terminal
[08:18] <atwo> yep 1 sec
[08:19] <atwo> ts
[08:19] <atwo> 7.04
[08:19] <atwo> lol isn that the latest
[08:19] <ardchoille> atwo: Ok, upgrading isn't going to be hard for you
[08:19] <atwo> sweet
[08:19] <atwo> but
[08:19] <ardchoille> !upgrade | atwo
[08:19] <ubotu> atwo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:19] <atwo> iḿ going to reinstall linux on here
[08:19] <atwo> because i fucked x last time trying to make it work on widescreen
[08:19] <ardchoille> atwo: 7.04 is Feisty
[08:19] <atwo> but this is a 19inch widescreen
[08:19] <atwo> and it looks all shitty
[08:20] <atwo> i didn want it 19"widescreen
[08:20] <ardchoille> !language | atwo
[08:20] <ubotu> atwo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:20] <atwo> the  ad didn say it
[08:20] <nareshov> gutsy works fine on a 19" WS
[08:20] <atwo> i thought it wasn
[08:20] <atwo> ok
[08:20] <atwo> now
[08:20] <atwo> i am just going to reinstall the OS
[08:20] <atwo> this version is ok to upgrade from then?
[08:20] <nareshov> yes
[08:20] <atwo> ok cool
[08:20] <atwo> iĺl jump to the other pc
[08:20] <atwo> while in reinstall
[08:20] <ardchoille> atwo: Are you going to upgrade or reinstall?
[08:20] <atwo> reinstall
[08:20] <atwo> after a format
[08:21] <ardchoille> Then don't worry about upgrading
[08:21] <nareshov> heh
[08:21] <atwo> o.o
[08:21] <atwo> im giong to reinstall from the old disc though
[08:21] <nareshov> :O
[08:21] <atwo> or can i format and install frmo a downloaded one?
[08:21] <ardchoille> atwo: ah, then upgrade? ok
[08:21] <atwo> lol
[08:21] <atwo> :>
[08:21] <atwo> thanks for your help atm
[08:21] <ardchoille> atwo: You can download the current release and install from that, it will save you a lot of work
[08:22] <ardchoille> Since you're going to reinstall anyway
[08:23] <ardchoille> Pisht: You can download the current release and install from that, it will save you a lot of time and work since you're going to reinstall anyway
[08:23] <atwo1> hmm
[08:23] <atwo1> how big is the DL?
[08:24] <ardchoille> less than 700Mb, fits on a cd
[08:24] <atwo1> ok i can dl on the linux box and format + install from the downloaded file?
[08:24] <ardchoille> atwo: I think it's quicker if you use a torrent
[08:24] <atwo1> hm
[08:24] <atwo1> im on pretty quick net
[08:24] <atwo1> wont take long
[08:25] <ardchoille> atwo: download, burn to cd, boot from the cd, install
[08:25] <Daisuke_Ido> uh, you need to burn the cd first
[08:25] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[08:25] <atwo1> ok i'll dl from here then luls
[08:25] <ardchoille> atwo: back up any personal files first so you don't lose them
[08:25] <atwo1> thers not much on the other pc
[08:25] <atwo1> i just ruined x and want to start fresh with the new version
[08:25] <atwo1> well i didnt ruin it
[08:26] <atwo1> but im being very anal
[08:26] <atwo1> and want a clean install
[08:26] <ardchoille> That'll do it
[08:26] <atwo1> :>
[08:26] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i get rid of gnome
[08:26] <ardchoille> atwo: Oh, and come back here for help if needed, this is one of the best support avenues for kubuntu :)
[08:27] <se7en> so i am back in the lao jungle cu and by the way pendirvelinux is cool ...
[08:27] <atwo1> yes i know
[08:27] <ardchoille> !puregnome
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <atwo1> i had heaps of help here the first time
[08:27] <Jay-Oh-En> and how do i get kde window manager back
[08:27] <ardchoille> !purekde
[08:27] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[08:27] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: ^^
[08:27] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[08:27] <atwo1> http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[08:27] <atwo1> which one do i get
[08:28] <ardchoille> atwo: If you have a regular pc, get the kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[08:29] <ardchoille> atwo: and get the MD5SUMS file and checksum the iso before burning
[08:29] <atwo1> say wut
[08:29] <atwo1> o.o
[08:29] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille:
[08:29] <Jay-Oh-En> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:29] <Jay-Oh-En> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:29] <Jay-Oh-En> it keeps saying that
[08:30] <ardchoille> atwo: Grab the MD5SUMS and check the iso's md5sum against the MD5SUMS list before burning, will save you from making a coaster in case the download was corrupted
[08:30] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: You got any other package managers open/running?
[08:30] <Jay-Oh-En> no
[08:30] <atwo1> thought that's what you meant
[08:30] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Did adept crash?
[08:30] <Jay-Oh-En> no
[08:31] <Jay-Oh-En> i did aptitude
[08:31] <Jay-Oh-En> in terminal
[08:31] <ardchoille> !adeptfix | Jay-Oh-En
[08:31] <ubotu> Jay-Oh-En: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:31] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille:
[08:32] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: is that how i fix it?
[08:32] <ardchoille> yes
[08:34] <atwo1> i wish there was a 24 hour keyboard store
[08:37] <nuxi> hi all. can anyone tell me how i can install perl Net::Pcap module without using CPAN ?
[08:37] <atwo1> !cpan
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <atwo1> !pcap
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <atwo1> im all out
[08:38] <nuxi> without CPAN
[08:41] <ardchoille> !flash | nareshov
[08:41] <ubotu> nareshov: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:41] <nuxi> i tryed installing the Pcap.pm file manualy in the perl lib dir.. but that dident work.. i always get an error about Net:Pcap not found in @INC
[08:42] <nuxi> so anyone got an idea how i can get it installed ?
[08:43] <atwo1> ok
[08:43] <atwo1> just burning 7.10 now
[08:43] <Locksm> Question: so im dling kubuntu just for testing purpuses, and ive noticed that there is a livecd and a livedvd, would i be better off chosing the livedvd for the correct view on kubuntu ?
[08:43] <elisiano> nuxi: how about "apt-get install libnet-pcap-perl" ?
[08:43] <atwo1> good Q
[08:44] <nuxi> well.. use the dvd if you want all the pak's .. i think the cd is a mini version and is missing alot to tools and stuff.
[08:44] <atwo1> :o
[08:44] <Locksm> I mean, clearly there must be some difference since they got both a dvd, and a cd..
[08:44] <nuxi> elisiano nothing is showing up
[08:45] <ardchoille> nuxi: The dvd is actually only a compilation of the desktop, server and alternate cd's
[08:45] <Locksm> the dvd, is that also a live ?
[08:46] <elisiano> are you on gutsy nuxi ?
[08:46] <nuxi> nop. feisty
[08:46] <ardchoille> Locksm: The dvd boots you into a menu that gives you options to boot into the desktop, server or alternate cd environments
[08:46] <ubuntu> hey can someone help me with a boot problem?
[08:46] <Locksm> Ah
[08:46] <ubuntu> i get grub error 22
[08:46] <Locksm> but the contenst on the desktop edition is the same as with the cd ?
[08:47] <atwo1> Locksm: the cd will include all versions
[08:47] <atwo1> ..which i assume it is one of
[08:47] <atwo1> sorry the DVD*
[08:47] <ardchoille> Locksm: The desktop cd is a livecd environment with an option to install to hard disk, the alternate and server cd's are text-based installers, not livecd environemnts
[08:47] <nuxi> elisiano. what kind of repo is that file in?  main universe or restricted ?
[08:47] <elisiano> i don't have a feisty around to see if the package is in the repositories, but u could still try with cpan
[08:47] <elisiano> it's in main
[08:48] <elisiano> in gutsy
[08:48] <nuxi> ok.. its not in feisty..
[08:48] <ardchoille> elisiano: You can check that here in the channel:
[08:48] <Locksm> ok, so basicly if i use the livecd for install, i would see the same options as selecting the dvd desktop install ?
[08:48] <ardchoille> !info kid3
[08:48] <ubotu> kid3: KDE MP3 ID3 tag editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[08:48] <nuxi> so i guess i have to dl it from somewere then
[08:48] <ardchoille> Locksm: yes
[08:48] <Locksm> ok
[08:48] <Locksm> then there is no need for the dvd download :D thx! then i get to test kubuntu now :D
[08:49] <nuxi> !libnet-pcap-perl
[08:49] <ubuntu> can someone help me with a boot problem? :D
[08:49] <elisiano> !info libnet-pcap-perl
[08:49] <ubotu> libnet-pcap-perl: Pcap interface for perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-3 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:49] <elisiano> ouch
[08:49] <elisiano> universe
[08:49] <ardchoille> elisiano: Are you on fiesty?
[08:50] <elisiano> thanks ardchoille
[08:50] <elisiano> no I'm in gutsy
[08:50] <Saagar> hi am facing some probs in upgrading my RAM to 1GB.Currently am using 512MB .Can anybody help me?Everything else works but certain sites are not accessible.
[08:50] <ardchoille> ok
[08:50] <elisiano> nuxi (who needs the package) is on feisty
[08:50] <ardchoille> !info libnet-pcap-perl feisty
[08:50] <bdgraue> where does plasma write, what widget are enabled? one pager is lost behind the taskbar :(
[08:50] <ubotu> libnet-pcap-perl: Pcap interface for perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-3 (feisty), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:50] <elisiano> so he just needs to add universe to repos?
[08:51] <ardchoille> yes
[08:51] <elisiano> got it nuxi?
[08:51] <ardchoille> Saagar: I may be wrong, but I don't think that is a ram issue
[08:51] <ubuntu> can someone tell me why im getting grub error 22? ive got Xp/kubuntu dual boot
[08:51] <Daisuke_Ido> bdgraue: "zoom out"
[08:51] <Saagar> then wht else it could be ardchoille? other distro works fine in the same machine
[08:51] <nuxi> yes
[08:52]  * nareshov is away: Gone away for now.
[08:52] <ardchoille> Saagar: It sounds like a IPV6 issue
[08:52] <bdgraue> Daisuke_Ido: how to do that?
[08:52] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Tried this?  http://www.google.com/search?q=%22grub+error+22%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[08:52] <Daisuke_Ido> bdgraue: in the upper right where the widget controls are, there's a "zoom out" button
[08:53] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[08:53] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:53] <Saagar> can u detail me on that ardchoille?
[08:53] <ardchoille> Saagar: ^^
[08:53] <ubuntu> yeh i have, they keep saying to run XP's fixmbr
[08:53] <Saagar> thnx
[08:53] <ardchoille> Saagar: I disabled ipv6 and lots of web issues went away
[08:53] <ubuntu> but i actually want grub loader to work, not xp's loader
[08:53] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Did you install kubuntu and then windows after that?
[08:53] <ubuntu> nop
[08:53] <bdgraue> Daisuke_Ido: thank a lot, you made my day :)
[08:53] <ubuntu> windows then kubuntu
[08:53] <Saagar> no
[08:54] <Saagar> win then kubuntu
[08:54] <ardchoille> !grub | ubuntu
[08:54] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:54] <ubuntu> both on completely different harddrives if that makes a difference
[08:54] <Daisuke_Ido> bdgraue: you're welcome :)
[08:56] <ubuntu> im running the kubuntu livecd now, isn't there a way to reinstall grub properly? :)
[08:56] <Tm_T> !grub
[08:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:56] <ardchoille> ubuntu: Those links have howto's
[08:56] <Tm_T> ardchoille: thanks :)
[08:57] <atwo1> ardchoille: wut a legend :>
[08:57] <atwo1> snapping out resolutions like a gattling gun
[08:57] <ubuntu> ah thanks =D
[08:59] <Jay-Oh-En> where is trash located like in its url /trash/
[08:59] <Jay-Oh-En> or trash/:
[08:59] <ardchoille> :)
[09:00] <emilsedgh> Jay-Oh-En: i think ~/.trash or something like this
[09:01] <Jay-Oh-En> emilsedgh: ill try
[09:01] <emilsedgh> Jay-Oh-En: ~/.local/share/Trash
[09:01] <emilsedgh> Jay-Oh-En: thats it
[09:02] <Jay-Oh-En> ill try that
[09:04] <atwo1> how do i change resolution
[09:04] <atwo1> where's that option
[09:04] <atwo1> i mean
[09:04] <atwo1> program thingy
[09:04] <atwo1> n/m
[09:04] <atwo1> getting into swing again
[09:04] <atwo1> screen is half off the screen
[09:05] <icewater1an> grub-md5-crypt fails with "grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed." on several boxes. is that a bug?
[09:05] <icewater1an> meaning does it work for anyone else
[09:12] <Daemon--> trying to install kubuntu from a vm but everytime it reboots the login screen is messed up like the video card drivers dont work. Any idea's ?
[09:12] <ubuntu> !grub | ubuntu
[09:12] <ubuntu> eh :/
[09:12] <sub[t]rnl> Daemon--: have you tried installing with safe graphics mode?
[09:13] <Daemon--> no buddy, is that an option at the beginning?
[09:13] <sub[t]rnl> off the installation cd, yeah
[09:13] <Daemon--> yeah thanks
[09:14] <atwo1> what's a vm
[09:14] <atwo1> cause mine looks all shitted too
[09:14] <atwo1> but it's installing anyway
[09:14] <Daemon--> virtual machine
[09:14] <atwo1> oh im installin from disc
[09:14] <Daemon--> me too
[09:14] <atwo1> its mong graphical and the screen is half off the monitor
[09:14] <Daemon--> through a virtual machine
[09:14] <Daemon--> sub[t]rnl - ive got the inital mentu here but cant see an option for same graphics mode?
[09:15] <sub[t]rnl> safe graphics mode, hrm, what options do you see
[09:16] <Daemon--> install in text mode, oem install (for manufacturers), install a command-line system, check cd for defects, rescue a broken system, memory test, boot from first hard disk and some F key options
[09:17] <sub[t]rnl> ah, are you using the KDE4 RC2 live cd?
[09:18] <Daemon--> errm im using this one.... kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso 	 697.5M 16-Oct-2007
[09:19] <ardchoille> Daemon--: That is a text-based install cd, no live environment there
[09:19] <sub[t]rnl> ic, you could go through the installation via text mode
[09:19] <Daemon--> sub[t]rnl - i do, the inistal install works, its when it reboots and tries to go into kubuntu for the first time. Looks like the login screen
[09:20] <Daemon--> looks all messed up
[09:20] <Daemon--> not sure if its something to do with the screen resolutions it asks me before i reboot. Not sure what i should be selecting because its a vm and not the propper size screen
[09:20] <sub[t]rnl> just the kdm login?, or the entire xwindows is messed up
[09:21] <Daemon--> well i cant get past the login because i cant see what im doing
[09:23] <Daemon--> any idea bud?
[09:23] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[09:23] <sub[t]rnl> not sure :/
[09:24] <Daemon--> do u understand what i mean? want me to take a screen shot?
[09:24] <elisiano> u should analyze xorg.conf and check /var/log/Xorg.o.log
[09:24] <elisiano> probably it's a viewport problem
[09:24] <Daemon--> how do i get to cli?
[09:25] <elisiano> the screen resolution is bigger than the real "window"
[09:25] <elisiano> Daemon--: CTRL + ALT + F2
[09:26] <Daemon--> the window of the vm changes but its still withing the size of my personal desktop resolution
[09:27] <atwo1> yeah i just finished installnig and my desktop if halfway off the screen
[09:27] <ardchoille> atwo1: Do you have an nvidia or ati video card in that box?
[09:28] <Daemon--> elisiano - what am i looking for in xorg.conf ?
[09:28] <atwo1> nvidia
[09:28] <ardchoille> atwo1: Thought so. I had that same problem but it went away after I nstalled the nvidia drivers
[09:28] <backupp> !replacement
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about replacement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <backupp> !photoshop
[09:28] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:28] <atwo1> geforce 5500
[09:29] <ardchoille> !nvidia | atwo1
[09:29] <ubotu> atwo1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <Daemon--> atwo1 = its not there
[09:29] <elisiano> Daemon--: are you using vmware?
[09:30] <atwo1> wut
[09:30] <backupp> what's a php editor in kubuntu?
[09:30] <backupp> !php
[09:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:30] <Daemon--> no buddy, ms virtual pc
[09:30] <elisiano> :O
[09:30] <bdgraue> backupp: kate :)
[09:30] <ardchoille> backupp: Most people just use a good text editor, like kate
[09:30] <elisiano> never tried, but I guess there's a way to go full screen right?
[09:31] <Daemon--> yes im in it
[09:31] <elisiano> and still u don't see a login prompt?
[09:31] <backupp> !email
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <atwo1> ugh
[09:31] <atwo1> how do i setup the internet
[09:31] <ardchoille> backupp: Anything we can help with?
[09:32] <atwo1> it's on a router
[09:32] <Jay-Oh-En> whats a good video editing program
[09:32] <Jay-Oh-En> ?
[09:32] <Daemon--> elisiano - yeah im in the login prompt
[09:32] <Daemon--> for the cli not for the gui
[09:32] <atwo1> do i have to put in a ip address in the default gateway for the routes tab
[09:32] <bdgraue> Jay-Oh-En: avidemux
[09:32] <elisiano> ok login then and check the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:33] <Jay-Oh-En> bdgraue: is that the name of the package?
[09:33] <backupp> ardchoille: yeah how about any replacement for dreamweaver or frontpage for web designing?
[09:33] <bdgraue> Jay-Oh-En: yes i think so
[09:33] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks then :]
[09:33] <Jay-Oh-En> do you know where i can get some nice hi def backgrounds?
[09:33] <ardchoille> backupp: Quanta ?
[09:35] <backupp> ok i try to install
[09:35] <nareshov> Jay-Oh-En: desktop backgrounds?
[09:35] <Daemon--> elisiano - under the screen section, subsection "Display", the modes are 1680x1050 - 1024x768 and 800x600
[09:35] <Daemon--> these are what i selected in the setup
[09:35] <Daemon--> should i remove them and try without?
[09:35] <Jay-Oh-En> nareshov: yes
[09:36] <atwo1> what do i put as default gateway
[09:36] <nareshov> http://del.icio.us/nareshov/wallpaper - the second link in there
[09:37] <atwo1> AGH
[09:37] <atwo1> i can't get the net to work through the router
[09:37] <nareshov> atwo1: what comp are you currently on?
[09:37] <nareshov> windows?
[09:37] <atwo1> yes
[09:37] <llutz> atwo1: your routers ip
[09:37] <atwo1> im trying to config the pc with 7.10 on
[09:37] <atwo1> though
[09:38] <nareshov> atwo1: Start -> Run -> cmd
[09:38] <nareshov> type ipconfig
[09:38] <llutz> ^^ thats windows
[09:38] <nareshov> press enter, note down the stuff and use it on the linux comp - of course with its own ip
[09:39] <Jay-Oh-En> nareshov: like hi def 1280x1024
[09:41] <atwo1> its not connecting to the net
[09:41] <atwo1> i remembe last time i had to add my ISP's nameserver address somewhere
[09:41] <atwo1> where would that go
[09:41] <nareshov> in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:41] <atwo1> ok i'm really new to this
[09:41] <atwo1> how do i get thar
[09:42] <atwo1> ?
[09:42] <nareshov> Alt+F2 -> konsole (hit enter) -> # sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[09:42] <nareshov> and add lines like: nameserver <ip.1>
[09:42] <nareshov> nameserver <ip.2>
[09:42] <atwo1> # sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[09:43] <nareshov> yeah
[09:43] <atwo1> LOL
[09:43] <atwo1> wrong keyboard
[09:43] <nareshov> heh
[09:43] <atwo1> er
[09:43] <atwo1> wtf
[09:43] <atwo1> said cant be foudn
[09:43] <nareshov> :O
[09:43] <nareshov> well, create one
[09:43] <nareshov>  /etc/resolv.conf
[09:44] <atwo1> open with
[09:44] <atwo1> kate?
[09:44] <nareshov> anything
[09:44] <atwo1> where the fk is kate
[09:44] <nareshov> kate, nano, vim, emacs, gedit
[09:44] <nareshov> use nano
[09:45] <atwo1> what do i type
[09:45] <atwo1> to make it open in something
[09:45] <atwo1> or whatever
[09:45] <Jay-Oh-En> where can i get a hi def  1280x1024 background
[09:45] <nareshov> did a konsole show up?
[09:45] <elisiano> Daemon--: try removing the first
[09:45] <atwo1> yer
[09:45] <atwo1> wait
[09:45] <atwo1> no
[09:45] <nareshov> type 'sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf' in there
[09:45] <atwo1> i alt f2's
[09:45] <nareshov> type konsole there
[09:45] <elisiano> and leave lower resolutions
[09:45] <nareshov> hit enter
[09:46] <atwo1> nothing happened
[09:46] <nareshov> Jay-Oh-En: did you check all those 9 pages
[09:46] <nareshov> atwo1: are you running KDE or GNOME ?
[09:46] <atwo1> kubuntu
[09:46] <Daemon--> elisiano - im actually re-installing now, almost to the part where it asks me for my prefered screen resolutions, should i leave that blank? because it says it will always try for the highest possible if their all blank
[09:46] <atwo1> 7.10
[09:46] <atwo1> just installed
[09:46] <nareshov> click on the K-menu > System > Konsole
[09:47] <atwo1> ya
[09:47] <elisiano> don't leave it blank, specify a lower resolution
[09:47] <elisiano> u have a wide screen right?
[09:47] <Daemon--> what do you recommend? my windows resolution is 1680x1050 x2 (dual monitor)
[09:47] <atwo1> ?
[09:48] <nareshov> atwo1: do you see a konsole?
[09:48] <atwo1> nareshov: what now
[09:48] <nareshov> konsole?
[09:48] <atwo1> im in there
[09:48] <Jay-Oh-En> nareshov: i dont like all of those
[09:48] <nareshov> :O
[09:48] <atwo1> what now
[09:48] <elisiano> also 1024x768 would be fine
[09:48] <Daemon--> elisiano - the ms virtual pc applications window keeps changing to whatever size is needed by the application running
[09:48] <Daemon--> ok i'll select that
[09:48] <nareshov> type 'sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf'
[09:49] <atwo1> in the '
[09:49] <atwo1> or without
[09:49] <nareshov> without '
[09:49] <elisiano> it's a 4:3 windows but I don't think that's a problem for u
[09:49] <atwo1> ok
[09:49] <atwo1> done
[09:49] <Daemon--> elisiano - just 1024x768? no other?
[09:49] <atwo1> now its all weird looking
[09:49] <atwo1> oh wait im in that file
[09:49] <atwo1> what do i write
[09:49] <nareshov> atwo1: is there anything in there?
[09:49] <atwo1> no it's empty
[09:49] <elisiano> yes, no other, at least you know that it must choose only that
[09:49] <nareshov> hmm, type: nameserver ip-of-your-nameserver
[09:50] <Daemon--> elisiano - ok its installing the software now
[09:50] <atwo1> save now?
[09:50] <atwo1> and try to connect to net?
[09:50] <Daemon--> fingers crossed :)
[09:50] <nareshov> yeah
[09:50] <atwo1> how do i save it
[09:50] <nareshov> Ctrl+O
[09:50] <nareshov> and Ctrl+X
[09:50] <elisiano> Daemon--: btw, I don't think a reinstall was necessary but I undestand you :)
[09:50] <atwo1> um
[09:50] <atwo1> now how do i make the net connect
[09:51] <atwo1> im in some KDE control module
[09:51] <atwo1> for the network
[09:51] <Daemon--> elisiano - yea maybe not but only takes 10 mins hehe, its a quick system
[09:51] <Daemon--> elisiano - pobably gonna end back up where i was though lol
[09:51] <nareshov> I just started using kubuntu a day ago :P
[09:51] <atwo1> :/
[09:51] <nareshov> atwo1: what does /sbin/ifconfig eth0 say on konsole
[09:51] <nareshov> ?
[09:51] <elisiano> Daemon--: and it's wasted running such os lol
[09:51] <elisiano> :D
[09:51] <Daemon--> you mean kubuntu or windows?
[09:52] <elisiano> windows of course
[09:52] <elisiano> :D
[09:52] <Daemon--> hey if i can get this working im switching, thats the whole point of this?
[09:52] <atwo1> a whole heap of shit
[09:52] <nareshov> hehe
[09:52] <atwo1> ?
[09:52] <nareshov> do you see your ip there?
[09:52] <Daemon--> just hope it supports my hardware
[09:52] <atwo1> i see the IP i assigned to the computer yes
[09:52] <Daemon--> quadcore q6850 cpu
[09:53] <nareshov> atwo1: do you see the default route ip too?
[09:53] <elisiano> Daemon--: running a virtual machine is not the way to test if it supports your hw
[09:53] <nareshov> oh wait
[09:53] <nareshov> not there
[09:53] <nareshov> in "route -n"
[09:53] <atwo1> i see one that is almost it
[09:53] <elisiano> because, as it implies, it virtualizes hardware
[09:53] <atwo1> er
[09:53] <atwo1> what
[09:53] <elisiano> unsell it parallelizes it like xen (which i doubt)
[09:53] <atwo1> um
[09:53] <elisiano> unLess
[09:53] <Daemon--> elisiano - ahh good point, but still rather see if i like it before i make the big move
[09:53] <atwo1> there's one there but last digit is wrong
[09:53] <nareshov> let me just figure out what kcontrol module handles the network settings >_>
[09:54] <atwo1> well i went into that thing ont he bottom right
[09:54] <atwo1> and went into manual
[09:54] <atwo1> and changed shit on eth0
[09:54] <nareshov> ok
[09:54] <elisiano> Daemon--: I agree, but still a dual boot would be better... anyway, first things firt, maybe after virtualizing it you'll pass to a dual boot system
[09:54] <Daemon--> wow, thats possible?
[09:54] <nareshov> atwo1: the "Routes" tab
[09:54] <atwo1> whats that shortcut to quickly restart?
[09:54] <nareshov> restart the comp?
[09:55] <atwo1> never mind
[09:55] <nareshov> Ctrl+Alt+Del worked I think
[09:55] <atwo1> i put the router IP in the default gateway
[09:55] <nareshov> k
[09:55] <Daemon--> ok the install is finnished, im ready to reboot, fingers crossed
[09:55] <atwo1> good luck
[09:55] <Daemon--> ta
[09:55] <roam> The power manager shows an extra CPU with kernel 2.6.24rc5.
[09:56] <atwo1> do i have to manually edit the network interface
[09:56] <atwo1> or leave on auto
[09:56] <nareshov> :O
[09:56] <Daemon--> i love the loading screen
[09:56] <nareshov> atwo1: DHCP -> auto
[09:56] <nareshov> static ip -> manual
[09:56] <nareshov> (iirc)
[09:56] <Linux_Galore> anyone know how to get kmail to stop dropping back into text mode when editing html
[09:57] <Daemon--> elisiano - its switched to some silly widescreen resolution and messed up again
[09:57] <nareshov> Linux_Galore: it should be possible to configure that, just look around in the settings/preferences
[09:57] <elisiano> can u tell your VM not to adjust its screen size?
[09:57] <atwo1> now how do i make it connect to the net
[09:57] <Daemon--> looking
[09:57] <atwo1> anyone tell me what the keyboard shortcut to reset x is
[09:58] <nareshov> Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace
[09:58] <atwo1> i need to get the net working
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> nareshov: Ive looked though everything, nothing
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> through*
[09:59] <atwo1> nareshov: it changes the default gateway to 0.0.0.0 when i leave the network interface on auto
[09:59] <atwo1> i can't get it to connect argggh
[09:59] <Daemon--> elisiano - yeah i have 3 options, allow any screen resolution (this is what was previously set), use standard screen resolutions and use guest operating system screen resolution
[10:00] <nareshov> atwo1: do you use DHCP?
[10:00] <atwo1> what is it
[10:00] <elisiano> try using standard
[10:00] <nareshov> bah
[10:00] <Daemon--> ok
[10:00] <elisiano> and select 1024x768
[10:00] <atwo1> ?
[10:00] <nareshov> do you know what ip that comp is supposed to have?
[10:00] <Daemon--> elisiano - i cant select, just have those 3 options
[10:01] <atwo1> i know the range and i just pick any 2 last digits
[10:01] <nareshov> okay
[10:01] <elisiano> k try that
[10:01] <nareshov> that means you're manually setting it
[10:01] <nareshov> so don't do auto
[10:01] <Daemon--> booting
[10:01] <nareshov> do manual and redo the whole thing
[10:01] <nareshov> ip, route, nameservers
[10:01] <Daemon--> that didnt work
[10:02] <atwo1> ok i did
[10:02] <atwo1> now
[10:02] <atwo1> how do i make it try to connect
[10:02] <nareshov> it should be working
[10:02] <nareshov> if not then reboot
[10:02] <atwo1> i can't click 'switch to online mode'
[10:02] <Daemon--> elisiano - trying to make it use the guest os res now
[10:03] <Daemon--> nope :(
[10:03] <nareshov> are you in the administrator mode?
[10:04] <atwo1> LOL don't know
[10:04] <atwo1> its saving the shit tho
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> sigh, kmail must be the dumbest heap of crap Ive ever used, no html editing support
[10:05] <llutz> html-emails are crap
[10:05] <Daemon--> elisiano - this is whats happening >> http://www.daveaskew.com/pics/kubuntu.jpg
[10:05] <atwo1> yes im in aadmin mode
[10:05] <atwo1> and its not connecting
[10:05] <atwo1> still
[10:05] <nareshov> reboot
[10:05] <Linux_Galore> llutz: only if your a geek, in marketing all emails are in html
[10:05] <atwo1> i still can't switch to online mode
[10:05] <atwo1> i did reboot
[10:05] <nareshov> use Evolution
[10:06] <Linux_Galore> nareshov: evolution is a heap of crap
[10:06] <nareshov> not anymore
[10:06] <llutz> Linux_Galore: seems you are in the wrong business
[10:06] <nareshov> try the latest one
[10:06] <atwo1> the light on my router
[10:06] <atwo1> is lit up
[10:06] <nareshov> it's - awesome, even I was surprised
[10:06] <atwo1> the router shows the network is connected this piece of shit comp wont connect but
[10:06] <atwo1> why
[10:06] <Linux_Galore> nareshov: so basically KDE after what 8 years has no HTML email client but gnome has 4 I know of
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> yeah I can see the enterprise level users really gunning for kde
[10:07] <Daemon--> elisiano - it says its switching to 1600x800
[10:08] <elisiano> which is not good
[10:08] <atwo1> ?
[10:08] <Daemon--> thats kubuntu doing that though, not my vm
[10:08] <atwo1> how do i get the net to connect X<
[10:08] <elisiano> after u put standard resolution on VM, did u try restarting KDM?
[10:08] <elisiano> or even better, kubuntu?
[10:08] <Daemon--> yes this is what happens from a full system reboot
[10:09] <Daemon--> i reboot the system to get into kde for the first time after installing kubuntu and thats what comes up
[10:09] <atwo1> can someone help me config this fresh 7.10 install to connect to the net :<
[10:09] <Daemon--> i cant do anything
[10:10] <Daemon--> elisiano - im guessing it doesnt like my video card?
[10:11] <Voyage__> any suggestions for a file manager instead of dolphin or konqureor.   (may be same like windows file manager) ?
[10:11] <atwo1> wjhat the FUICk
[10:11] <atwo1> is it resolv or resolve
[10:11] <nareshov> what?
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> Im starting ti understand why KDE hasnt got of the ground in the enterprise space, its so simple, all the enterprise grade apps are GTK based
[10:11] <atwo1> when i changed that nameserver it didnt even fkn save
[10:12] <llutz> !ot | Linux_Galore
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[10:12] <atwo1> is it resolv.conf or resolve.conf
[10:12] <llutz>  resolv.conf
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> llutz: I asked a question, still waiting for a sane kde answer
[10:12] <elisiano> Daemon--: it's not the videocard, I think there's something wrong in how the VM host tells the resolution to the VM guest
[10:13] <llutz> Linux_Galore: that's not a kubuntu related thing, ask in #kde
[10:13] <Daemon--> elisiano - ok so i should try another VM ?
[10:13] <atwo1> omfg
[10:13] <atwo1> its fixed
[10:14] <Linux_Galore> llutz: #kde channel is locked especially if you ask questions like, are there any enterprise grade email client for kde, they go into melt down and boot you out
[10:14] <atwo1> WTF
[10:14] <atwo1> i go to normal res the native res and the screen goes halfway off the monitor
[10:14] <atwo1> WHYyyyyyy
[10:14] <Linux_Galore> atwo1: reset the monitor, the monitor sets itself defined in the original vga screen
[10:15] <llutz> Linux_Galore: so it's not wanted then. sit down and write a client, it's opensource
[10:15] <Assid> hey
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> s/in/on.
[10:15] <Assid> that livecd is majorylu messed up
[10:15] <atwo1> reset it defined in what
[10:15] <atwo1> every res makes the fonts etc. look like crap
[10:16] <Linux_Galore> llutz: aah yes the ultimate stupid FOSS answer, how about I save time and money like every other enterprise grade user and just buy windows
[10:16] <Assid> Linux_Galore ?
[10:16] <Assid> atwo1: lcd?
[10:16] <atwo1> yes
[10:16] <Assid> enable anti aliasing fonts
[10:16] <atwo1> how
[10:16] <llutz> Linux_Galore: nobody stops you, but this is off-topic here so go to some other channels
[10:16] <Assid> i think its in manage display  or something
[10:16] <Linux_Galore> atwo1: its in kcontrol
[10:17] <atwo1> foudn it
[10:17] <atwo1> do i force fonts DPI?
[10:17] <atwo1> to 120
[10:17] <Assid> err.. enable antialiasing
[10:17] <Assid> and you should be fine
[10:18] <Assid> 96 dpi is generally more than enough
[10:18] <atwo1> ok
[10:18] <atwo1> now where do i run that apt-get update cmd from
[10:18] <atwo1> and wtf is 'kdesu'
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> llutz: just pointing out how insane kde is, you have a nice web browser and cd/dvd burner apps even thanks to kde 4 lots of bouncing icon effects, but not one single email client that is the basic app needed for a desktop that does html like every professional email app out there
[10:19] <atwo1> !ot
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[10:20] <elisiano> Daemon--: that would be a workaround
[10:20] <Assid> Linux_Galore: thunderbird
[10:20] <atwo1> where do i type the apt-get update
[10:20] <atwo1> in what
[10:20] <elisiano> u could try vmware just to see if it works
[10:20] <atwo1> and the default res is completely screwed
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> Assid: not a kde app
[10:20] <Assid> Linux_Galore: doesnt matter, it works fine
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> Assid: it does Im loading two sets of libraries when I should not have too
[10:21] <Assid> wel then use kmail
[10:21] <Voyage__> any suggestions for a file manager instead of dolphin or konqureor.   (may be same like windows file manager) ?
[10:21] <atwo1> littlle help plz
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> Assid: kmail has no html editor support
[10:22] <Assid> Linux_Galore: wouldnt know, kcorn or somwething?
[10:23] <ardchoille> Voyage__: I use krusader
[10:23] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res
[10:23] <Voyage__> ardchoille thats similer to windows?
[10:23] <atwo1> what's the problem happening
[10:24] <ardchoille> Voyage__: No idea, I haven't seen Windows in years
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: just change your default file browser to konqueror
[10:24] <Voyage__> i need a max option giving/functional file manager
[10:24] <ardchoille> Voyage__: That would be konqueror
[10:24] <Voyage__> Linux_Galore i dont like it either.  i cant chang icon size.
[10:25] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res
[10:25] <Assid> err that live cd for kde4 has a major bug
[10:25] <Assid> enabling desktop effects kills it
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: you can change the icon size to anything you want
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> in konqueror
[10:26] <Voyage__> Linux_Galore nop.... the spacing between icons is not changable
[10:26] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (144)0x900
[10:26] <Voyage__> Linux_Galore can you give any other verirty of good managers you think?
[10:26] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: yep you can change that too
[10:26] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) i mean
[10:27] <Voyage__> Linux_Galore how ?
[10:28] <poison--> morning guys
[10:28] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect
[10:29] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: ok start kcontrol
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> open a terminal and type kcontrol
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> Look for KDE Components
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> then File Manager
[10:31] <atwo1> anyone plz
[10:31] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect
[10:32] <Voyage__> Linux_Galore k then
[10:32] <llutz> !patience | atwo1
[10:32] <ubotu> atwo1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:32] <atwo1> ..
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> in the appearance tab you can set the text parrameters
[10:32] <atwo1> llutz do you help or just use those triggers
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: were are you up to
[10:35] <Voyage__> Linux_Galore theres no option there
[10:35] <lascar> i installed dapper on an acer557oz, and it can't detect my wireless nic at all.  Anyone?
[10:36] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: ok you in kcontrol correct
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: now look for KDE Components
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: then  File Manager
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: in the appearance tab you can set the font layout for the icons
[10:40] <elisiano> Daemon--: did u get any further?
[10:40] <Daemon--> no buddy :(
[10:41] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: to set the default browser from Dolphin to konqueror in Kcontrol go to KDE Components->File Association, then in the list click and expand "inode", then expand "Directory"
[10:41] <Assid> atwo1: if it doesnt work out, just go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it there
[10:42] <Linux_Galore> Voyage__: in the application preference order window to the far right make sure konqueror is at the top of the list
[10:42] <Jay-Oh-En> are there any html editors in linux
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> Jay-Oh-En: quanta
[10:44] <Jay-Oh-En> Linux_Galore: is that the package name
[10:44] <ardchoille> !info quanta
[10:44] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2385 kB, installed size 5744 kB
[10:45] <Assid> quanta just doesnt measure to the likes to dreamweaver if you ask me
[10:45] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: Quanta was recently rated the best html editor in Linux Format magazine
[10:46] <Jay-Oh-En> ardchoille: kool ill try it out
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> Jay-Oh-En: just search for that string in adept_manager  ie type sudo adept_manager
[10:46] <ardchoille> !kdesudo | Linux_Galore
[10:46] <ubotu> Linux_Galore: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: who cares
[10:46] <atwo1> ardchoille: i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?
[10:46] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: If you're going to give advice in this channel, it's best to stick to the recommended advice.
[10:47] <ardchoille> atwo1: I don't know anything about resolutions.
[10:47] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: give me a kde email client that supports html content editing then worry about adding a idiot window for sudo
[10:47] <bazhang> Linux_Galore: we care
[10:47] <atwo1> anyone know about setting resolutions etc.
[10:48] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: Please be nice and follow recommended solutions.
[10:48] <atwo1> plus the same thing i keep asking
[10:49] <atwo1> :<
[10:49] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: pay me and I will follow recommended time wasting solutions
[10:49] <atwo1> lol
[10:50] <bazhang> !resolution
[10:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:50] <ardchoille> !coc | Linux_Galore
[10:50] <ubotu> Linux_Galore: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:50] <bazhang> atwo1: see above
[10:50] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: lol, very foss, what next i have to wear a little hat with an Ubuntu logo
[10:50] <atwo1> why are there Â's everywhere
[10:51] <atwo1> in where do i type the commands apt-get
[10:51] <bazhang> Linux_Galore: take it to #offtopic please
[10:51] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: you cant define a code of conduct for people you neither employ or control, you may aswell try and stop the tide
[10:51] <atwo1> !ot
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[10:51] <bazhang> atwo1: in the konsole
[10:51] <Assid> errr..
[10:51] <Assid> that kde4 rc2 livecd is totally broken
[10:52] <atwo1> i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[10:52] <Assid> if you enable desktop effects.. it goes crazy
[10:52] <Linux_Galore> Assid: thats why it has those two little letters "rc" it means it may be broken to some
[10:52] <Assid> konquror doesnt load either
[10:52] <atwo1> Release Candidate
[10:52] <bazhang> Assid: thus the rc2 name :}
[10:53] <Assid> yeah so trying to report it in.. who do i crib to ? ;)
[10:53] <emilsedgh> Assid: thats because of misconfigurations in X
[10:53] <Assid> emilsedgh: misconfig ? konqueror ?
[10:53] <Assid> i can understand desktop effects since compiz needs some renderaccel and stuff on
[10:53] <emilsedgh> Assid: konqueror opens here, it was unstable until 15-20 days ago, but now it is stable enough
[10:53] <Assid> but what about konqueror ?
[10:53] <atwo1> To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart »
[10:54] <atwo1> that just screwed eveyrthimng
[10:54] <atwo1> im in some dos looking scereen
[10:54] <Assid> emilsedgh: sadly no, it just does absolutely nothing
[10:54] <Tm_T> Linux_Galore: please stay in constructive and kind attitude
[10:54] <emilsedgh> Assid: no, desktop effects.
[10:54] <Linux_Galore> atwo1: type  xinit /usr/bin/startkde
[10:54] <Linux_Galore> oops
[10:54] <atwo1> i just hit restart
[10:54] <Assid> emilsedgh: right, but why isnt konqueror working?
[10:55] <atwo1> on the tower
[10:55] <atwo1> lawl
[10:55] <atwo1> man some stuff i change doesn't save
[10:55] <Linux_Galore> Tm_T: lol, what are you on
[10:55] <bazhang> uhoh
[10:55] <Tm_T> Linux_Galore: I'm on my chair, as usual
[10:56] <emilsedgh> Assid: i think most of your problems are because kubuntu is not a KDE4 based distro, whats its error? run it in command line
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> Tm_T: sorry thats off topic please take your comment to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> heh
[10:56] <ardchoille> oops
[10:56] <atwo1> !ot
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[10:56] <Assid> emilsedgh: will try it again later, funny enough there wasnt a kvirc or a chat client :|
[10:56] <Tm_T> atwo1: thank you
[10:57] <atwo1> :>
[10:57] <emilsedgh> Assid: Kopete is there but its irc protocol is not ready yet :(
[10:57] <atwo1> trying to fix this res problems till
[10:57] <emilsedgh> Assid: KDE 4.0 ill be used with KDE3 applications
[10:57] <atwo1> when i try apt-get update
[10:57] <atwo1> [08:52pm] <atwo1> i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[10:57] <emilsedgh> Assid: for example KDE PIM (kmail, kontact and...) will not be released with KDE 4.0
[10:57] <Assid> emilsedgh: i would so love to move away from windows and finally have my hardware do what its intended to
[10:58] <atwo1> assid and old mate use
[10:58] <atwo1> !ot
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[10:58] <Jay-Oh-En> does knoqueror work with gmail?
[10:58] <atwo1> go in there for convo i'm trying to resolve this install
[10:58] <atwo1> :(
[10:58] <jussio1> Jay-Oh-En: it should...
[10:58] <emilsedgh> Assid: well, KDE3 is already sooo goood
[10:58] <Assid> emilsedgh: how come?
[10:58] <Linux_Galore> lol, yep way to piss the only guy of who spent hours last this year handing out Kubuntu cd's
[10:58] <Jay-Oh-En> jussio1: it isnt :[
[10:58] <Assid> Linux_Galore: who ?
[10:58] <ardchoille> Jay-Oh-En: It does, but you have to change the user agent string: Tools > Change browser identification
[10:58] <Linux_Galore> guess what Im now niot doing it at next years Cebit
[10:59] <Tm_T> Linux_Galore: there's no excuses for misbehaviour
[10:59] <bazhang> Linux_Galore: please help out others :}
[10:59] <cntb> !fixresolution
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Linux_Galore> Assid: Last year at CeBIT I was the only guy demoing Kubuntu/KDE everyone else did gnome
[10:59] <Assid> emilsedgh: if those apps are recompiled for the new kde libs, shouldnt it be better?
[10:59] <atwo1> when i try apt-get update
[10:59] <atwo1> i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[10:59] <atwo1> wtf is that about
[10:59] <emilsedgh> Assid: they couldnt
[10:59] <Assid> Linux_Galore: i actually got ubuntu/gnome on my desktop
[11:00] <Assid> sorry.. laptop
[11:00] <Tm_T> Linux_Galore: and you know well I'm not "on you" in any way, if you disagree with me, feel free to meet me in #ubuntu-ops
[11:00] <Assid> desktop is on win atm, too many requirements that would hinder me
[11:00] <emilsedgh> Assid: KDE3 apps are written for Qt3/KDE3 Libraries
[11:00] <Linux_Galore> Tm_T: aah you mean for having an opinion that doesnt fit yours
[11:01] <Assid> emilsedgh: right, but they could upgrade it to kde4 libs and latest QT right ?
[11:01] <Tm_T> Linux_Galore: meh, that isn't what I mean
[11:01] <Tm_T> anyway, this is not a place to discuss about this
[11:01] <emilsedgh> Assid: then they will be KDE4/Qt4 app!
[11:01] <bazhang> !aptfix | atwo1
[11:01] <ubotu> atwo1: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:02] <Assid> emilsedgh: right, and therefore quicker
[11:02] <emilsedgh> Assid: thats what people are doing
[11:02] <emilsedgh> Assid: and for example kde pim apps will not be ready for 4.0 release
[11:03] <Assid> hrmm, honestly, i'd like to get my hands on a mac, would address most o fmy needs and hardware that works
[11:04] <Assid> i have a core2quad and at times, it just behaves slower than a freshly formatted p4
[11:06] <Jay-Oh-En> quanta is pretty good guys
[11:06] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[11:06] <atwo1> wtf
[11:07] <atwo1> i restarted x
[11:07] <atwo1> and its on this dos screen again
[11:07] <atwo1> how do i get back to desktop
[11:07] <Assid> restart x ?
[11:07] <atwo1> alt ctrl backspace
[11:07] <atwo1> now its on some metroid screen of text
[11:08] <jussio1> atwo1: try logging into it then typing: startx
[11:08] <atwo1> wtf
[11:08] <elisiano> atwo1: dos? :D
[11:08] <atwo1> no i need to know how to start kde
[11:08] <atwo1> from this bland screen
[11:08] <jussio1> !wtf | atwo1
[11:08] <ubotu> atwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[11:08] <atwo1> did i swear
[11:09] <elisiano> atwo1: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:09] <sub[t]rnl> atwo1: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:09] <atwo1> i dont see it
[11:09] <jussio1> atwo1: (wtf)
[11:09] <atwo1> that didn't do anything
[11:09] <atwo1> i duno wtf this screen is
[11:09] <atwo1> the top ssays
[11:09] <atwo1> Starting K Display Manager: kdm.
[11:09] <atwo1> then there's all this other random crap
[11:09] <Assid> looks like your xorg is gone
[11:09] <atwo1> i hit reset
[11:09] <atwo1> i did this
[11:09] <atwo1> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[11:09] <atwo1> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:09] <atwo1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <atwo1> trying to fix the res
[11:10] <jussio1> atwo1: which graphics card was it?
[11:10] <atwo1> i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?
[11:10] <atwo1> gefroce 5500
[11:10] <elisiano> try with a lower resolutio
[11:10] <elisiano> n
[11:10] <atwo1> it needs to use native
[11:10] <atwo1> or its screwed uip
[11:11] <beroual> SALUT
[11:11] <atwo1> the whole KDE is fufkde
[11:11] <atwo1> it doesn't load anymore wTF
[11:11] <atwo1> happened
[11:12] <atwo1> im in like
[11:12] <atwo1> a full screen of konsole
[11:12] <atwo1> ok that command fixed it i think
[11:13] <atwo1> ok no it didnt
[11:13] <atwo1> its on some completely blank screen
[11:13] <atwo1> with text able to be typed in
[11:14] <jussio1> atwo1: one moment...
[11:14] <sub[t]rnl> cp your backup xorg.conf.custom over
[11:14] <atwo1> ?
[11:15] <sub[t]rnl> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <atwo1> k 1 sec
[11:15] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:15] <atwo1> it was that bs screen res 'fix' that killed it eh
[11:15] <atwo1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:16] <atwo1> it says 'stopping kde manager'
[11:16] <atwo1> then goes
[11:16] <atwo1> oh woot
[11:16] <atwo1> it fixed it
[11:16] <ubuntu_> i neeed help i waas having kubuntu and xp installed to my sys but i ve upgraded my xp to vista home basic then i lost the boot menu so i cant open kubuntu on my sys how can i fix this problem
[11:16] <atwo1> and the res is still screwed
[11:17] <jussio1> !grub | ubuntu_
[11:17] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:18] <atwo1> so
[11:18] <atwo1> any idea on this res
[11:18] <atwo1> it's totally pissing me off
[11:19] <atwo1> i mean
[11:19] <atwo1> i log into system settings as admin
[11:19] <atwo1> change the res
[11:19] <atwo1> then a restart cbhanges it back
[11:19] <atwo1> the native res puts the screen halfway off the monitor
[11:19] <atwo1> id ont get it
[11:20] <ardchoille> atwo1: Can't you just fiddle with the monitor settings to fix that?
[11:20] <atwo1> lol no way
[11:20] <atwo1> the desktop is about 20% to the right
[11:21] <atwo1> wait
[11:21] <atwo1> no
[11:21] <atwo1> its just squished over
[11:21] <atwo1> the whole screen is on there but
[11:21] <atwo1> the left side is pushed over by about 20% of the screen
[11:21] <atwo1> and if i restart
[11:21] <atwo1> it changes back to a dif res
[11:21] <atwo1> every time
[11:22] <niwa> i'm having trouble getting wireless to work, anyone that can help? It's a liteon wn5301a with artheros5413 chipset, which should be supported by madwifi
[11:22] <niwa> but after manually modprobing ath_pci, it still doesn't show up when doing iwconfig :(
[11:22] <niwa> the module loads without problems
[11:23] <sigma> do people still add features to kppp?
[11:23] <atwo1> !aptfix
[11:23] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:23] <atwo1> that didn't work
[11:24] <atwo1> says 'please use single character options'
[11:24] <sigma> i have a small suggestion - have a auto-redial option like windows does
[11:25] <niwa> atwo1: have you tried editng Xorg.conf directly?
[11:27] <pastry> why does my compiz 'cube' only have two sides? :<
[11:27] <coteyr> anyone have experance with videolan and upnp
[11:27] <stdin> pastry: because you only have 2 desktops and it want's 4
[11:27] <atwo1> niwa: no how do i do that
[11:27] <coteyr> i recom[iled aginst the non cyberlink sdk but I cen't see anything past the server node in the playlist
[11:28] <matze_> exit
[11:29] <pastry> stdin, when i have one desktop, it has two sides and there are two desktop selections on the taskbar. when i set it to four, it still has two sides, and there are eight desktop selections in the taskbar
[11:29] <stdin> pastry: it has nothing to do with kde settings, you need to tell compiz to have 4 desktops from the settings manager
[11:30] <atwo1> how do i manually edit X
[11:30] <atwo1> Xorg.conf
[11:30] <TheFishy> oh
[11:30] <TheFishy> thats easy
[11:30] <atwo1> and do i use sudo or kdesu
[11:30] <ardchoille> atwo1: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but be careful
[11:30] <niwa> atwo1:  open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <niwa> backup :)
[11:30] <TheFishy> sudo nano ect/x11/xorg.conf...
[11:31] <atwo1> i just want to set the resolution how do i do that
[11:31] <ardchoille> atwo1: use kdesu for gui apps and use sudo for cli apps
[11:31] <TheFishy> damn i type slow
[11:31] <atwo1> i don't know the different lawl
[11:31] <atwo1> lol fishy :P
[11:31] <TheFishy> to sudo when ever permissions are denined...
[11:31] <elisiano> gui = graphical user interface, cli = command line interface
[11:31] <TheFishy> just type sudo <command>
[11:31] <atwo1> why is the x.org empty
[11:31] <niwa> atwo1: you want to look into the section "screen"
[11:31] <elisiano> gui = windows guy, cli = g33k
[11:31] <elisiano> :D
[11:31] <TheFishy> lol
[11:32] <atwo1> there's nothing in this fieeeeeel
[11:32] <TheFishy> ?
[11:32] <TheFishy> file?
[11:32] <ardchoille> atwo1: Did you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf  or  /etc/x11/xorg.conf ? (notice the upper case X)
[11:32] <elisiano> atwo1: xorg.conf
[11:32] <elisiano> not x.org
[11:32] <TheFishy> oh yeah stupid cap sensitive
[11:32] <atwo1> ok lols one was lower
[11:32] <atwo1> got it no
[11:32] <atwo1> now*
[11:33] <atwo1> ok
[11:33] <atwo1> um
[11:33] <TheFishy> dont listen to me
[11:33] <atwo1> screen has loads of stuff
[11:33] <atwo1> what do i do
[11:33] <TheFishy> im a kubunub
[11:33] <atwo1> it says
[11:33] <niwa> i can't remember exactly, but you need to find 'Section "Screen"'
[11:33] <atwo1> screen 0 "defealt screen" 0 0
[11:33] <atwo1> default
[11:33] <atwo1> *
[11:34] <atwo1> should i change it to
[11:34] <atwo1> screen 0 "defealt screen" 1440 900
[11:35] <niwa> can you paste the whole file? ( http://paste-it.net )
[11:35] <atwo1> k
[11:36] <PolitikerNEU> Does anybody know how to get libkcddb-dev? I cannot find it in the package manager (adept) - kubuntu 7.10
[11:36] <pastry> thank you stdin, got it
[11:37] <stdin> PolitikerNEU: there doesn't seem to be a -dev built for it
[11:37] <atwo1> oh WTF
[11:37] <atwo1> my net on that comp is dead
[11:37] <PolitikerNEU> hmm ... ok, so I got to dl it manually?
[11:37] <niwa> lol
[11:38] <michele> hello....someone use Hmail, the theme of superkaramba?
[11:38] <stdin> PolitikerNEU: pretty much, you'll have to get the kdemultimedia source from "apt-get source kdemultimedia"
[11:39] <atwo1> what the FK
[11:39] <atwo1> why doesnt my net work now grrrrrr
[11:39] <niwa> my file looks like this: http://paste-it.net/5233
[11:40] <PolitikerNEU> ok, thx
[11:40] <Jay-Oh-En> !suspend
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <atwo> zdfgf
[11:42] <atwo1> ace
[11:43] <atwo> http://www.paste-it.net/5234
[11:43] <atwo1> niwa: there it is
[11:45] <Jay-Oh-En> !sleep
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <Jay-Oh-En> !sleepd
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleepd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <niwa> atwo1: what did you say your res was, adn what do you want it to be?
[11:46] <atwo1> there's 2 problems
[11:46] <Jay-Oh-En> !info sleepd
[11:46] <elisiano> @now Europe/Rome
[11:46] <ubotu> sleepd: puts an inactive or low battery laptop to sleep. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.9 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 132 kB
[11:46] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Rome: December 13 2007, 12:46:14 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 13 minutes
[11:46] <atwo1> it defaults to 1400x1050
[11:46] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i get sleepd to work
[11:46] <atwo1> native is 1440x900
[11:46] <atwo1> but when i put that res
[11:46] <atwo1> left side is squished in by about 20%
[11:46] <atwo1> and it wont line up
[11:48] <atwo1> its pissing me off it makes no sense
[11:48] <bazhang> atwo1: do you have controls on the monitor you can fiddle with?
[11:48] <atwo1> they no where near work
[11:49] <atwo1> the left side if pushed 20% accrross to the right
[11:49] <Assid> @now asia/calcutta
[11:49] <atwo1> but the right side lines up properly
[11:49] <ubotu> Current time in Asia/Calcutta: December 13 2007, 17:19:12 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 10 minutes
[11:49] <atwo1> @now australia/sydney
[11:49] <ubotu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: December 13 2007, 22:49:23 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 10 minutes
[11:50] <stdin> can you stop using @now in here, look at the clock if you aren't sure of the time
[11:50] <bazhang> haha
[11:50] <elisiano> lol
[11:50] <atwo1> i @now'd a place that has a different time to where i am
[11:50] <atwo1> i has no clock 4 there
[11:50] <atwo1> ps. help my issue get fixed :>
[11:50] <niwa> atwo1: i'm not sure, but it seems that auto configuration hasn't detected that your monitor supports 1440x900
[11:50] <atwo1> omfg
[11:51] <atwo1> wtf
[11:51] <stdin> !acronyms | atwo1
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acronyms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <stdin> dang
[11:51] <elisiano> atwo1: sorry to ask again, maybe u already said: which is your setup?
[11:51] <stdin> !language > atwo1
[11:51] <atwo1> setup?
[11:51] <elisiano> video card/monitor resolution
[11:51] <atwo1> geforce 5500
[11:51] <niwa> atwo1: definitly not sure, all xorg.conf experience comes from gentoo fiddling
[11:51] <atwo1> 19inch widescreen
[11:51] <stdin> !acronym
[11:51] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:51] <elisiano> jfgi?
[11:52] <atwo1> just fucking gimme it
[11:52]  * atwo1 shrugs
[11:52] <elisiano> loooooool
[11:52] <elisiano> :D
[11:52] <atwo1> i made that one up
[11:52] <atwo1> was it right?
[11:52] <bazhang> google
[11:52] <ali_> test
[11:52] <atwo1> ugh
[11:52] <atwo1> so
[11:52] <atwo1> what's up with this res then
[11:53] <atwo1> otherwise i'll just have to take the monitor back
[11:53] <elisiano> did u install nvidia drivers correctly?
[11:53] <atwo1> and the store is full of moron asian kids
[11:53] <atwo1> i can't install anything
[11:53] <atwo1> apt-get is screwy
[11:53] <elisiano> why not?
[11:53] <elisiano> omg
[11:53] <atwo1> or else i duno what to do
[11:53] <atwo1> i've had kubuntu for like 1 hour
[11:53] <elisiano> do u run it as root?
[11:53] <elisiano> or with sudo?
[11:53] <atwo1> tell me what to use
[11:53] <atwo1> slash do
[11:54] <elisiano> how are you trying to apt?
[11:54] <bazhang> atwo1: probably best to take a break for now--getting this riled up can't be a help
[11:54] <atwo1> don't know
[11:54] <atwo1> who's riled up?
[11:54] <pastry> i thought you cant run with root and only with sudo :<
[11:54] <atwo1> i'm stoned and relaxed after a long days work
[11:54] <bazhang> heh
[11:54] <atwo1> just toying with this
[11:54] <atwo1> once i fix the res i can actually take a look at things
[11:54] <elisiano> I gotta go eat in 5 minutes
[11:55] <atwo1> i'm guessing it's a driver issue
[11:55] <atwo1> what do i type where to do what
[11:55] <elisiano> try and see if it's a perms problem
[11:55] <atwo1> im in konsole
[11:55] <atwo1> as root
[11:55] <elisiano> sudo apt-get update
[11:55] <elisiano> as root
[11:55] <elisiano> ok w/o sudo then
[11:55] <bazhang> atwo1: no one has an answer for you right now, so it might be wise to check out the forums for an answer
[11:55] <atwo1> it does this
[11:55] <niwa> elisiano: you should begin by installing nvidia proprietary drivers
[11:55] <bazhang> oo as root
[11:55] <atwo1> let me paste what it says
[11:55] <niwa> didn't notice that you hadn't unitl now
[11:55] <niwa> sorry atwo1
[11:56] <niwa> *meant
[11:56] <elisiano> niwa: I have them installed correctly, maybe atwo1 should as well
[11:56] <elisiano> :)
[11:56] <niwa> yes, lol :)̈́
[11:56] <bazhang> !root
[11:56] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:56] <atwo1> when i type
[11:56] <atwo1> apt-get update
[11:56] <atwo1> i get this
[11:56] <atwo> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_AU
[11:56] <atwo> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_AU
[11:56] <atwo> Reading package lists... Done
[11:56] <atwo1> :\
[11:56] <bazhang> no wonder
[11:57] <atwo1> no wonder what
[11:57] <bazhang> atwo1 you need to add repositories and disable the cd as a software source
[11:57] <atwo1> the cd isn't even in the drive
[11:57] <bazhang> no matter
[11:57] <atwo1> ok so what do i do
[11:57] <jembouge> !offtopic
[11:57] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:57] <bazhang> atwo1 open up adept
[11:58] <bazhang> huh?
[11:58] <atwo1> where is adept
[11:58] <bazhang> alt +f2 adept
[11:58] <atwo1> ok
[11:58] <jembouge> hi there
[11:58] <atwo1> now wut
[11:59] <jembouge> anyones knows where the kdm themes are located?
[11:59] <bazhang> actually that should be kdesu adept iirc
[11:59] <stdin> nope
[11:59] <stdin> kdesu adept_manager
[11:59] <bazhang> kdesudo?
[11:59] <bazhang> oh ok
[11:59] <ardchoille> jembouge: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[11:59] <atwo1> ah THIS THING
[11:59] <atwo1> i remember this
[11:59] <bazhang> close adept atwo1
[11:59] <jembouge> thanks ardchoille
[11:59] <atwo1> ok im in
[11:59] <atwo1> the latter
[11:59] <atwo1> now what
[11:59] <niwa> or just system->adept :/
[12:00] <ardchoille> jembouge: yw
[12:00] <atwo1> what am i doign in here
[12:00] <bazhang> atwo1 now run alt +f2 again but type kdesu adept_manager
[12:00] <sebastian^> moin folks :)
[12:00] <atwo1> yeah im there
[12:00] <atwo1> already i said
[12:00] <sebastian^> hmm, is anyone using here the cisco network assistance :)?
[12:01] <bazhang> atwo1: were you prompted for your sudo password?
[12:01] <atwo1> er
[12:01] <atwo1> no
[12:01] <atwo1> i clickde 'fetch updates'
[12:01] <atwo1> was that right
[12:01] <atwo1> and versino upgrade
[12:01] <bazhang> atwo1: better to just open it from the kmenu, as niwa said
[12:02] <bazhang> atwo1 so close it now
[12:02] <jembouge> ardchoille: cool, I had look for them in many directories so far without success. Do you know of a good "tutorial" that explains the system folders-tree?
[12:02] <atwo1> hold up
[12:02] <atwo1> its diong all these updates
[12:03] <atwo1> alright
[12:03] <atwo1> im in adept
[12:03] <atwo1> it didnt ask for my pw
[12:03] <atwo1> but tell me what im doing in here
[12:04] <ardchoille> jembouge: I'm afraid I don't :(
[12:04] <jembouge> ok no worries thanks :)
[12:04] <atwo1> bazhang: ?
[12:06] <niwa> atwo1: did you start kde from the command line earlier?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[12:06] <atwo1> think so
[12:06] <niwa> atwo1: if so, you might already be root
[12:06] <atwo1> just
[12:06] <atwo1> what am i doing in here
[12:06] <atwo1> i am
[12:06] <atwo1> just
[12:07] <niwa> atwo1: open konsole and type 'whoami'
[12:07] <atwo1> do i untick cdrom as a third party software source
[12:07] <atwo1> im
[12:07] <atwo1> like
[12:07] <atwo1> the name i log on with
[12:07] <atwo1> lol
[12:07] <niwa> atwo1: tes
[12:07] <niwa> *yes
[12:07] <atwo1> where did he go
[12:07] <atwo1> what am i doing in here
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> atwo: go easy on the enter key dude
[12:07] <atwo1> k
[12:07] <niwa> atwo1: like you said, untick the cd sources
[12:08] <atwo1> do i tick the other 2?
[12:08] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i make my computer go to sleep
[12:08] <atwo1> sleeping pills
[12:08] <niwa> atwo1: not unless you want to
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: do you mean hibernate?
[12:08] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo1: FUNNY you should be a comedian
[12:08] <atwo1> ok
[12:08] <atwo1> something happened
[12:08] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: no i mean suspend or sleep
[12:09] <niwa> but make sure that you tick at least 'main' in the first tab
[12:09] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: cause hibernate broke my computer before
[12:09] <habdel> !w32codecs
[12:09] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: are you on a laptop?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: yeah its a bit weird
[12:09] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: why
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> cos of apm stuff. not sure why. its just weird (specially for laptops)
[12:10] <atwo1> niwa: what now?
[12:10] <atwo1> i unticked all the 3rd party
[12:10] <atwo1> and ticked main
[12:10] <atwo1> oh wait up it's dl'ing stuff there we go
[12:11] <atwo1> do i restart now?
[12:11] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: well no i dont have a laptop
[12:11] <niwa> atwo1: apt-get should work now, i think
[12:11] <atwo1> whoa
[12:11] <atwo1> there's so much to get
[12:11] <atwo1> and update etc.
[12:11] <niwa> i installed ubuntu yesterday, so i'm not sure
[12:11] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: but i know you can make a desktop sleep ive did it in ubuntu before :[
[12:11] <atwo1> lol
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: just found this http://www.linux.com/feature/54610
[12:11] <atwo1> thanks
[12:11] <atwo1> ActionParsnip that's a mad nick lololol
[12:12] <korobase> hi.all
[12:12] <atwo1> hi
[12:12] <niwa> atwo1: also, you should check 'restricted' in the first tab, as you need the nvidia drivers
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> atwo: its a harry hill joke
[12:12] <atwo1> who is harry hill
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> atwo: british standup comedian...very strange
[12:13] <atwo1> oic
[12:13] <atwo1> this adept thing is half dead
[12:13] <atwo1> trying to update all these things
[12:13] <korobase> I install the eclipse,and type the "./eclipse" in console.Then it can't run but show "bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory"
[12:13] <korobase> What is wrong with this?
[12:13] <llutz> korobase: eclipse, withou ./ unless you are in the eclipse directory
[12:14] <ardchoille> korobase: Any reason you aren't installing eclipse from the repository?
[12:14] <korobase> no ,it also don't work!
[12:14] <korobase> not from the repository.
[12:14] <atwo1> if a program is taking a long time to do something, is there a way to tell if it's just crashed or still working?
[12:14] <llutz> korobase: where did you install eclipse to? change in that dir and find the executable-file
[12:15] <jembouge> well guys, coming back in a few... cheers
[12:15] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: that doesnt work
[12:16] <korobase> I use the absolute path to run it,But the result is the same.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: i'll have a google. gimme a sec
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208042
[12:16] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:17] <korobase> is this the Dolphin's problem?
[12:18] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: i couldnt find that in my kmenu
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: does apm -s suspend your system?
[12:20] <Jay-Oh-En> well how will i get it back from sleep
[12:20] <llutz> powerswitch
[12:21] <Jay-Oh-En> No APM support in kernel
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: there's your issue
[12:21] <Jay-Oh-En> i dont get it tho i can suspend in ubuntu but not kubuntu :[
[12:21] <korobase> all the executable file can't run in my computer.Why?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: if you add acpi=off to your kernal args at boot then apm should be there
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18766
[12:24] <atwo1> ok
[12:24] <atwo1> apt-get update says
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html
[12:24] <atwo1> Could not open lock file
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: may help
[12:24] <atwo1> ver/lib/apt/lists/lock - open 13 permission denied
[12:24] <ardchoille> atwo1: Do you have adept open?
[12:25] <atwo1> ydes
[12:25] <stdin> atwo1: use sudo
[12:25] <ardchoille> atwo1: adept and apt-get both use the same lock file, you can't use both apps at the same time, you need to close on to use the other
[12:25] <atwo1> sigh
[12:25] <atwo1> oh
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60306
[12:26] <atwo1> i tried to make
[12:26] <atwo1> apt thingy get all the updates
[12:26] <atwo1> but it just crahsed i think
[12:26] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[12:26] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:26] <atwo1> ardchoille: i tried that once it was deadly
[12:26] <atwo1> plus it says u can't use 2 somethnis
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/47508
[12:27] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:27] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: SOOO many links ill take a look at all of them
[12:27] <atwo1> if im in root so i have to type sudo
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Jay-Oh-En: yeah man i'll lay off now and let you wade through :)
[12:28] <atwo1> look man
[12:28] <Jay-Oh-En> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:28] <atwo1> !fixadept
[12:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:28] <atwo1> that makes no sense
[12:28] <atwo1> and doesn't work
[12:29] <atwo1> 'please use single character options'
[12:30] <jussio1> atwo1: what exactly are you putting there?
[12:30] <atwo1> apt-get is being a jerk
[12:30]  * ActionParsnip is afk
[12:30] <atwo1> read up a bit
[12:31] <atwo1> god i click 'fetch updates'
[12:31] <atwo1> and there's 5390
[12:31] <jussio1> atwo1: kk... so you need to close adept before you do any of that, then type: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:31] <marco80> ciao
[12:31] <marco80> qualche italiano?
[12:31] <jussio1> !it | marco80
[12:31] <ubotu> marco80: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:31] <atwo1> doesn'ty do anythuing
[12:32] <jussio1> atwo1: now try using adept
[12:33] <atwo1> says 'waiting for headers'
[12:34] <atwo1> im doing it under sudo in konsole
[12:34] <jussio1> atwo1: wait for them then :D
[12:34] <atwo1> that works eh
[12:34] <jussio1> :D
[12:34] <atwo1> now how do i make them dl
[12:34] <atwo1> it saus
[12:34] <atwo1> a;l
[12:34] <atwo1> all this random crap
[12:34] <atwo> Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg [191B]
[12:34] <atwo> Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_AU
[12:34] <atwo> Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release
[12:34] <atwo> Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages
[12:34] <atwo> Fetched 1B in 16s (0B/s)
[12:34] <atwo> Reading package lists... Done
[12:35] <atwo1> and thats all it does
[12:35] <jussio1> atwo1: what are you exactly trying to do?
[12:35] <atwo1> update everything
[12:35] <atwo1> i just installed it
[12:35] <atwo1> also my screen is rooted
[12:36] <atwo1> ther is a 150-200 pixel blank space on the left of the screen.
[12:36] <atwo1> on the native resolution
[12:37] <niwa> atwo1: you should install the nividia drivers before trying to fix that problem
[12:37] <jussio1> atwo1: it seems you dont have the universe repos enabled. please go to manage repositories from th file menu in adept and make sure all the boxes except source are clicked
[12:37] <atwo1> how
[12:37] <atwo1> oops meant to delete that
[12:38] <atwo1> ok
[12:38] <atwo1> source code u mean
[12:39] <atwo1> oh hooray
[12:39] <atwo1> omfg
[12:39] <atwo1> 23132 downloads available
[12:39] <jussio1> atwo1: yeah, thats how many you can install - not updates.
[12:40] <atwo1> so i dont need them all
[12:40] <atwo1> its just a list of the available programs to the OS?
[12:40] <jussio1> atwo1: now try the fetch updates button in adept
[12:40] <jussio1> atwo1: yes
[12:40] <atwo1> jesus christ something that uses half a brain for once instead of allowing billions of shit programs to exist
[12:40] <jussio1> !language
[12:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:40] <atwo1> omg u dobbed
[12:40] <stdin> !attitude
[12:40] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:40] <atwo1> it's not like i'm being abusive to people
[12:40] <atwo1> calm down
[12:41] <ardchoille> atwo1: Please be respectful to others
[12:41] <atwo1> i havn't been disrespectful to anyone else at all
[12:42] <atwo1> ok i went to the nvidia section of the list
[12:42] <atwo1> and just tried to install them all
[12:42] <jussio1> atwo1: that isnt really going to work.
[12:42] <atwo1> thought i'd give it a shot :>
[12:42] <jussio1> !ati | atwo1 Read this:
[12:42] <ubotu> atwo1 Read this:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:43] <atwo1> ooo
[12:43] <atwo1> thx
[12:43] <jussio1> :)
[12:43] <atwo1> i do all this stuff in konsole right
[12:44] <jussio1> atwo1: you are using gutsy?
[12:45] <jussio1> atwo1: ie. kubuntu 7.10 ?
[12:45] <atwo1> yes
[12:45] <atwo1> just installed tonight
[12:45] <jussio1> atwo1: then follow the gutsy instructions...
[12:46] <atwo1> doing now
[12:46] <jussio1> use the restricted manager in systems settings
[12:46] <atwo1> its turning on
[12:46] <atwo1> its sitting at 87% for agesw
[12:46] <jussio1> atwo1: you need to be a little patient with it
[12:48] <sigma> is there any article online that explains why linux is better than proprietory software?
[12:48] <atwo1> hundreds
[12:49] <sigma> anyone perhaps have a link to a decent one
[12:49] <TheFishy> what is a good movie?
[12:50] <jussio1> TheFishy: lets keep it on topic
[12:50] <sigma> oh guys what chatroom are the tutorials being held in 2day?
[12:50] <korobase> In the Dolphin,A right-clicking on a execute file,the menu don't have the "Open" command.Why?
[12:50] <sigma> TheFishy: try #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <TheFishy> just double click it?
[12:50] <TheFishy> ty
[12:50] <stdin> sigma: #kubuntu-devel  like it says in the link
[12:50] <atwo1> ok iyd
[12:50] <ardchoille> sigma: #kubuntu-devel
[12:50] <jussio1> sigma: #kubuntu-devel
[12:51] <atwo1> ok its done, when it says 'computer needs restart' does it mean start menu or ctrl alt backspace
[12:51] <korobase> Hi,all!
[12:51] <korobase> Help me!
[12:51] <stdin> atwo1: reboot
[12:51] <jussio1> !ask | korobase
[12:51] <korobase>  In the Dolphin,A right-clicking on a execute file,the menu don't have the "Open" command.Why?
[12:51] <atwo1> ok here goes
[12:51] <ubotu> korobase: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:52] <korobase> ?
[12:52] <ardchoille> korobase: We can't help you until we know what you need help with
[12:53] <atwo1> its freaking out a bit
[12:53] <korobase> I want run a executable file through the right-menu of a file.
[12:54] <TimS> Wow, I diddn't realise you could run apt:kget in a web browser and it automaticaly installs programs!
[12:54] <TimS> That is brilliant :P
[12:54] <atwo1> jussio1: nothing happened it loaded up toa blank screen its just black
[12:56] <gj> anyone her familiar with the karamba theme hmail?
[12:57] <ardchoille> TimS: How exactly did you do that?
[12:58] <TimS> Found it of a ubuntu blog. But go to firefox or konquerer and type apt:[packagename] and it isntalls it
[12:58] <gj> anyone here familiar with te karamba theme 'hmail'?
[12:59] <TimS> It asks for the password in GUI and then downloads and installs the package
[12:59] <dilse> hi, this is more of a developer request than a user question: in KMenu -> System Settings -> User Management, if I sort by UID by clicking the column head, it sorts by ASCII first instead of a numerical sort (so 1, 10, 1000, all show up before 6)
[12:59] <ardchoille> TimS: That doesn't work here :(
[12:59] <eljefe_> I just exported a file from Audacity into MP3, and I was reading the file length is 3:39 but its really 5:02.  How can I have the MP3 to have the correct time stamp?
[12:59] <atwo1> jussio1: nothing happened it loaded up toa blank screen its just black
[12:59] <TimS> 7.10
[12:59] <dilse> i don't think that's very intuitive and would like to see that changed
[12:59] <ardchoille> TimS: yes
[12:59] <atwo1> it's the like the monitor isn't detected AT ALL
[12:59] <TimS> It should be installed by default in 7.10
[12:59]  * ActionParsnip is back
[12:59] <TimS> aptURL is the package name
[13:00] <eljefe_> dilse: file a bug or a wish
[13:00] <TimS> ardchoille: sudo apt-get install apturl
[13:00] <ardchoille> TimS: apturl is not installed in Gutsy by default.. but it is in the repos, nice
[13:00] <gj> anyone here familiar with te karamba theme 'hmail'?
[13:01] <TimS> It was installed for me in Gutsy by deafault
[13:01] <TimS> Did you upgrade to Gutsy?
[13:01] <jussio1> !repeat | gj
[13:01] <ubotu> gj: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:01] <ardchoille> TimS: No, I installed from desktop cd
[13:01] <TimS> Same
[13:01] <TimS> Odd.
[13:01] <niwa> gj: no, but i just installed it :)
[13:01] <TimS> Hi emilsedgh
[13:01] <gj> hehe allright niwa...
[13:01] <emilsedgh> Hi TimS
[13:01] <ardchoille> TimS: But, thank you for the tip :)
[13:02] <gj> is it working for u? i cant ind a way to configure mine
[13:02] <TimS> !patience
[13:02] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:02] <TimS> I need to find more packages to isntall to have some fun with apt:[package]
[13:03] <TimS> hehe
[13:03] <ardchoille> lol
[13:03] <sigma> how does a virus infect a computers bios? it just doesnt make sense to me
[13:03] <atwo1> ok
[13:03] <atwo1> i just done this
[13:03] <atwo1> As of Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the recommended way to install the binary driver is to open System Settings KMenu ? System Settings, go to the Advanced tab and click Restricted Drivers. Then click the Administrator Mode button and check the box marked Enable to install the driver. This should install the right package for your card and set it up for you.
[13:03] <xerri> join #ungi-pot
[13:03] <ardchoille> sigma: The same way you can flash a bios from a floppy disk?
[13:03] <atwo1> now the monitor isnt detected at all
[13:03] <niwa> gj; cat ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/54466-hmail/hmail/scripts/
[13:04] <gj> is hmail working for u niwa?? if yes how did u configured it..? i can nowhere find a way to configure hmail
[13:04] <niwa> +READNE
[13:04] <niwa> README
[13:04] <niwa> sorry
[13:04] <gj> ok ill check it out
[13:04] <atwo1> i see the kubuntu thing
[13:04] <atwo1> load up the bar
[13:04] <atwo1> then it undetects
[13:04] <TheFishy> how do i find a process from a window?
[13:04] <atwo1> wtf
[13:05] <niwa> gj: "cat ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/54466-hmail/hmail/README"
[13:06] <dilse> eljefe_: that's what i'm wondering. is the system settings panel part of kde now? if so, then i should probably file a bug with the kde people, _not_ with the kubuntu people, right?
[13:06] <atwo1> am i missing half the convo here
[13:06] <TheFishy> how do i figure out what windows belong to what proccesses?
[13:07] <eljefe_> hmm... i think System Settings is a part of KDE4, but most of its parts are made up od KControl anyways.  Yeah I'd say with KDE people.
[13:07] <sub[t]rnl> TheFishy: you can use "top" to see current processes.  If your looking for something specific, you can use "ps". ex: ps ax|grep findthis
[13:07] <eljefe_> dilse:   hmm... i think System Settings is a part of KDE4, but most of its parts are made up od KControl anyways.  Yeah I'd say with KDE people.
[13:08] <llutz> TheFishy: maybe output of xwininfo helps too
[13:08] <atwo1> after enabling the graphics driver in 'restricted drivers' my monitor isn't detected at all.. what do i do now :<
[13:09] <niwa> atwo1: do you mean that X starts, but is completly black?
[13:09] <TheFishy> I need the PID
[13:10] <xRaich[o]2x> is there a package that contains kwalletmanager for kde4?
[13:10] <niwa> atwo1: or do you get the terminal ("dos-like" text interface)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: i use ps -ef | grep <processname>
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: PID is the first value after the processname
[13:11] <atwo1> oh snap didnt know i could type
[13:11] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: well, i think thats included in kdebase
[13:11] <atwo1> niwa: what do i do
[13:11] <atwo1> there's no prompts or anything
[13:11] <atwo1> its just a blank screen which u can type in
[13:11] <niwa> atwo1: can you type commands?
[13:12] <atwo1> i can type in things
[13:12] <atwo1> but pressing enter seems to just go to the next line
[13:12] <atwo1> there's no prompt or anything
[13:13] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: kdebase-kde4 is installed
[13:13] <atwo1> ?
[13:14] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: i looked and i didnt find anyone for myself too
[13:14] <TheFishy> ActionParsnip: that is not working man
[13:15] <TheFishy> james     7112  5315  0 05:14 pts/0    00:00:00 grep SDLjump
[13:15] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: maybe inside kde4utils... but i don't trust those kde4* packages
[13:15] <niwa> atwo1: do you get a reply if you try typing 'pwd' + enter
[13:15] <TheFishy> no PID
[13:15] <spitfire> jussi01: are you online?
[13:15] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: trust!?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: 7112 is the pid of the process you invoked to search for the program. basically its not running
[13:16] <TheFishy> ugh
[13:16] <TheFishy> but it is...
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: try a simple example like firefox. run firefox then ps -ef | grep fire
[13:16] <ChickenTikka> when i install something via adept
[13:16] <TheFishy> the window is up
[13:16] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: they corrupted my kde4 install once. i prefer the kde*-kde4 packages
[13:16] <ChickenTikka> how can i actually install it?
[13:16] <emilsedgh> hm
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: then you are searching for the wrong process name
[13:16] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: use svn
[13:16] <atwo1> niwa: no it doesn't register anything but the input text it looks like :s
[13:16] <TheFishy> its the window name right?
[13:16] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: haha no thanks ^^
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: nope, thats just a pretty
[13:17] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: not on my notebook
[13:17] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: why? i have it on my notebook too
[13:17] <atwo1> ChickenTikka: right click on it and click install
[13:17] <TheFishy> ok how do i find the process name of a window
[13:17] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: dont worry!
[13:17] <atwo1> then do the apply button at the top
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: if you rightclick on the program you ran and find out what it ACTUALLY runs, you can grep for that
[13:17] <atwo1> ChickenTikka: 'request install'
[13:17] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: i had gentoo on one of my notebooks once. i'm happy those days of compiling are gone ;)
[13:18] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: i'll wait for the binary release ^^ until then i have to type in my passwords
[13:18] <ChickenTikka> atwo1: i did
[13:18] <TimS> What does grep do?
[13:18] <ChickenTikka> atwo1: but the thing is that it keeps giving me an error
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: why not just use sudo apt-get install <program name>
[13:19] <TheFishy> what is the best command to kill a process?
[13:19] <niwa> atwo1: no idea :S
[13:19] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: well, im happy that i can test all the kde stuff everytime and i dont want to wait for packages ;)
[13:19] <llutz> TheFishy: kill or killall
[13:19] <niwa> atwo1: try alt+F7
[13:19] <TheFishy> whats the format with kill?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: Kill <PID>
[13:19] <TimS> kill pid
[13:19] <eljefe_> TheFishy: [ctrl][esc] will bring up the KDE process table
[13:19] <atwo1> well niwa
[13:19] <atwo1> it's completely screwed
[13:19] <atwo1> after i set it up to auto detect the graphics card
[13:19] <atwo1> OMFG
[13:19] <atwo1> FFS
[13:20] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: the kubuntu packages are pretty awesome so i don't have to worry about compiling. the only thing missing is kwalletmanager and i can live with that ^^
[13:20] <ardchoille> !wtf | atwo1
[13:20] <ubotu> atwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:20] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: one month without it wont kill me ;)
[13:20] <ChickenTikka>  ActionParsnip: well how can i use it?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> xRaich[o]2x: hey raich
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: bring up a konsole
[13:20] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: hi
[13:20] <ChickenTikka> done
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> type sudo apt-get install <program name>
[13:20] <TheFishy> ty eljefe_ that worked nicely
[13:20] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: for me kde4 apps open kde3's wallet manager
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: then you will be asked for your password
[13:20] <TheFishy> even top couldn't kill it with sig 15
[13:21] <niwa> TheFishy:  and `pidof processname` is useful too
[13:21] <TimS> ActionParsnip: In 7.10 you can go to firefox and go apt:[packagename]
[13:21] <ChickenTikka> it said i need to run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:21] <TheFishy> ahh
[13:21] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: kde3 apps inside kde4 feel so wrong ^^
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: do that then
[13:21] <niwa> TheFishy: eg ' kill `pidof superkaramba`'
[13:21] <TheFishy> yeah
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> TimS: nice, i prefer typing commands :D
[13:21] <TimS> :p
[13:21] <cntb> resolution problem on virtual kubuntu over ms virtualPC , S3 emulation real card is intel , now trying things from ubotu tip - link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, still too expanded
[13:22] <TimS> Easier for begginers
[13:22] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: yes, but you have to deal with it for some time, at least until 4.1
[13:22] <TheFishy> never try the game sdljump.... it sucks and locks up every second
[13:22] <ChickenTikka> its asking me to Y/I/N/O/D/Z
[13:22] <ChickenTikka> what do i do
[13:22] <cntb> suggestions ?
[13:22] <ChickenTikka> ?
[13:22] <llutz> niwa:easier " killall superkaramba"
[13:22] <TimS> Whats the question?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: what is the default
[13:22] <ChickenTikka> n
[13:22] <eljefe_> ChickenTikka: what is it asking about?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: and whats the question
[13:22] <niwa> llutz: true :)
[13:22] <cntb> chatting now from xp kubuntu is on kdm stop waiing for right xorg.conf
[13:22] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: not really. the only apps i miss are amarok (i use juk now) and kwalletmanager
[13:22] <ChickenTikka> ActionParsnip: *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[13:23] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: for everything else i use CLI
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> TimS: any suggestions?
[13:23] <TimS> xRaich[o]2x: How can you live without amarok?
[13:23] <emilsedgh> xRaich[o]2x: if youre a cli guru, then all you need is xfce
[13:23] <TimS> ActionParsnip: I would go with n
[13:23] <xRaich[o]2x> emilsedgh: *shudders* ^^
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> TimS: me too
[13:23] <ChickenTikka> n?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> TimS: cheers dude
[13:23] <cntb> will sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange query work right on virual PC?
[13:23] <emilsedgh> hehe
[13:23] <elisiano> emilsedgh: u don't need X if u're a geek
[13:23] <TimS> Not quite sure what hes doing though
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: go with N
[13:24] <elisiano> :D
[13:24] <TheFishy> is there another console emulator like yakuake but better?
[13:24] <emilsedgh> elisiano: you do, everyone needs a browser
[13:24] <xRaich[o]2x> TimS: i can't live with kde3 anymore ^^ it's just plain ugly compared to kde4 ^^
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> TheFishy: define "better"
[13:24] <elisiano> lynx, links2, elinks
[13:24] <eljefe_> xRaich[o]2x: Amarok isn't in kde4 yet?  is a beta avialable?
[13:24] <TimS> I dont like kde4 widgets
[13:24] <TimS> lynx <333333
[13:24] <eljefe_> TimS: could you clarify?  whats wrong with the widgets?
[13:24] <xRaich[o]2x> eljefe_: no they need QT4.4 and it'll come out in 2008 Q1
[13:24] <ChickenTikka> YAY THANKS
[13:24] <eljefe_> xRaich[o]2x: thay, who?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> xRaich[o]2x: i'd rather have fast rather than pretty
[13:25] <ChickenTikka> its installing
[13:25] <TimS> I just dont like the looks of them.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: awesome
[13:25] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: kde4 is faster ;)
[13:25] <ChickenTikka> how come adept is going apeshit and has errors?
[13:25] <TheFishy> ActionParsnip: all I am looking for is a console that doesn't have a window and appears from no where via hotkey... yakuake is a bit glitchy...
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: i'd also do sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:25] <TheFishy> are there any others?
[13:25] <TimS> Fishy you could swap to a command line completly?
[13:26] <TheFishy> Tims... I like GUI to play games and stuff
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> xRaich[o]2x: depends how you config it
[13:26] <ChickenTikka> guys, how can i start running EXE normally?
[13:26] <ChickenTikka> i have apps i need to use
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: what is the app?
[13:26] <TimS> !wine
[13:26] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[13:26] <niwa> so, no help on my wireless :( ?  Should i just go 32bit? that way I can at least use ndiswrapper...
[13:26] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: sure kde3 can be fast but it's nice to have a DE that works so nicely with my hardware
[13:26] <ChickenTikka> photoshop CS3 and some games ofcourse
[13:27] <ChickenTikka> i need it for games
[13:27] <jussi01> !wine | ChickenTikka
[13:27] <ubotu> ChickenTikka: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[13:27] <TimS> niwa: Whats going on with your wireless
[13:27] <jussi01> heh
[13:27] <TimS> CS3 doesnt work on Linux much
[13:27] <jussi01> hi there ChickenTikka
[13:27] <ChickenTikka> :S why not
[13:27] <ChickenTikka> jussi01: HI
[13:27] <TheFishy> anyone know of anything else like that?
[13:27] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: plus konqueror works a lot better in kde4
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: sudo apt-get install wine
[13:27] <TimS> Its a windows application
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> xRaich[o]2x: dolphin for me
[13:28] <ChickenTikka> im killing everyone with questions last two days
[13:28] <ChickenTikka> hehe
[13:28] <TimS> Thats like expecting PS2 games to run on a XBOX
[13:28] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: jep dolphin works a lot better too
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: if you like photoshop then check out gimp
[13:28] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: i use konqueror for web browsing
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !gimp | ChickenTikka
[13:28] <ubotu> ChickenTikka: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[13:28] <ChickenTikka> ActionParsnip: i know gimp but its not like PS
[13:28] <niwa>  i'm having trouble getting wireless to work. I have a liteon wn5301a with artheros5413 chipset, which should be supported by madwifi
[13:28] <niwa> but after manually modprobing ath_pci, it still doesn't show up when doing iwconfig :(
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> xRaich[o]2x: i use firefox but i'm trying kylie for the name :)
[13:29] <ChickenTikka> TimS: you cant compare consoles and computers
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> niwa: can you provide a paste of you /etc/network/interfaces
[13:29] <TimS> I am not
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> niwa: probably a HAL issue, try doing "/etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[13:29] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: haha :) konqueror4 works really smooth. there only is one bug with auto completition but that one is already fixed in svn
[13:29] <TimS> I am saying windows programs doesnt work on Linux. You can use some through Wine, check the wine AppDB
[13:30] <atwo1> well i will have to reinstall somehow
[13:30] <atwo1> my kubuntu is stuffed
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: i think it runs through cedega but you gotta pay for the binaries
[13:30] <atwo1> screen wont even get recognised
[13:30] <ChickenTikka> ActionParsnip: do all games run?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: some
[13:31] <cntb> resolution problem on virtual kubuntu over ms virtualPC , S3 emulation real card is intel , now trying things from ubotu tip - link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, still too expanded
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> atwo1: do you have your original xorg.conf file?
[13:31] <ChickenTikka> ActionParsnip: how can i tell before i buy the game?
[13:31] <jussi01> !appdb | ChickenTikka
[13:31] <ubotu> ChickenTikka: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[13:31] <TimS> If you want windows games, you could use VMWare or dual boot windows.
[13:31] <cntb> >	suggestions ?
[13:31] <holo> i am running worms world party!! what else one needs?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !cedega | ChickenTikka
[13:31] <ubotu> ChickenTikka: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[13:31] <cntb> kdm starts wide and unreadable
[13:31] <ChickenTikka> thanks
[13:34] <niwa> nosrednaekim: sorry, gtg in a hurry i will be back later
[13:34] <niwa> power is going to be cut
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> ah
[13:35] <ChickenTikka> thanks for the WineDB really helpful;
[13:35] <jussi01> :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: np
[13:35] <ChickenTikka> all i needed was to see warhammer
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: hehe
[13:35] <ChickenTikka> :D
[13:35] <sigma__> niwa must be from south africa:)
[13:36]  * ChickenTikka is loving this linux thing
[13:36] <sigma__> how can i free memory thats been cached but is not being used?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: glad you like it
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ChickenTikka: get wine installed and off you go
[13:36] <nosrednaekim> sigma__: it will be utomatically freed when you need it
[13:36] <llutz> sigma__: why do you want that? unused mem is wasted mem
[13:37] <sigma__> llutz: im just a bit worried, only konversation running and its using 980mb memory, doesnt windows only use less than 200mb when idle?
[13:38] <llutz> sigma__: win uses mem different way. no worries, it's ok
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: can you provide a paste of the output of top
[13:39] <Norgur> hi
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> hi Norgur
[13:41] <mihael> where is now Tutorials Day?
[13:41] <ardchoille> mihael: #kubuntu-devel
[13:41] <mihael> thx
[13:41] <sigma__> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48075/ ok its gone down a little
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: can i have the output of top
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: like all of it (as much as poss)
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: please
[13:44] <llutz> sigma__: check this one :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48077/
[13:45] <sigma__> ActionParsnip and llutz: i posted a correction at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48078/
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: yeah its fine. your highest process is using 0.2% of your ram
[13:46] <llutz> sigma__: as i said, don't worry. that mem-usage is OK. why shouldn't the kernel use memory for cache/buffers. it would be a waste of memory
[13:47] <sigma__> ok well now i can rest easy
[13:47] <llutz> sleep well :)
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ZZZZZzzzz.....
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> hhehe
[13:50] <sigma__> how do i create a kontact server?
[13:51] <nosrednaekim> !groupware
[13:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groupware - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:51] <snarkster> good morning everybody
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> sweet name snarkster
[13:52] <xRaich[o]2x> morning??? it's almost 3 p.m. ^^
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> morning snarkster
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> 2pm here O_o
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> 9AM here
[13:53] <xRaich[o]2x> omg time is going insane!!!
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> haha
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> america always lives 5 hours in the past to us in the UK :D
[13:55] <Downix> W00T!  UltraSPARC T2 is now open sourced!
[13:56] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: and UK is living in the past to us in germany ;)
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> xRaich[o]2x: we're snapping at your heels
[13:56] <xRaich[o]2x> ActionParsnip: dang ^^
[13:57] <xRaich[o]2x> one hour til tutorials :)
[14:02] <ChickenTikka> whats this tutorial thing?
[14:02] <stdin> click the link and see
[14:07] <ChickenTikka> how can i send private messages?
[14:07] <ChickenTikka> i did the /msg nickserve thing
[14:07] <ChickenTikka> but its not working
[14:07] <emilsedgh> ChickenTikka: you have to register
[14:07] <emilsedgh> !register | ChickenTikka
[14:07] <ubotu> ChickenTikka: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[14:07] <ChickenTikka> i did yesterday
[14:07] <snarkster> to send private message: get permission first then /msg <name> <message>
[14:07] <emilsedgh> ChickenTikka: so you have to identify
[14:08] <emilsedgh> ChickenTikka: /msg nickserv identify YOUR_PASSWORD
[14:08] <snarkster> gotta love kopete for irc..
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: xchat for me :D
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: on windows and on Linux
[14:10] <snarkster> i had no idea that kopete was on windows as well
[14:10] <LjL> ChickenTikka, you've perhaps registered, but you're not identified. i suggest you read it, not just skim over it.
[14:10] <Kred> Hey ho. Does someone happen to know application for Customer Management?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Kred: in what way?
[14:11] <snarkster> since its 7am here.. i need more coffee.. damn its cold
[14:11] <Kred> Or CRM
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Kred: what's CRM
[14:12] <Kred> Customer Relation Management.. well. When customer called and why etc.
[14:12] <sigma__> how do i put my kppp window into the system tray?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Kred: could just make a spreadsheet
[14:12] <Kred> I know :)
[14:12] <ardchoille> sigma__: You can start it in the systray with: ksystraycmd appname
[14:13] <sigma__> ok il try that
[14:13] <sigma__> kred: google it, theres tons of php-driven apps for crm especially at sorceforge
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> sigma__: !alltray
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> sigma: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/05/24/minimize-any-application-to-the-system-tray/
[14:14] <hw> Does anyone know whether eclipse 3.3 CDT is backported for ubuntu feisty?
[14:14] <snarkster> so i wanted to automatically starts modprobe ndiswrapper.  I came in here and somebody told me to make a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart well that didnt work.. I did some reasearch and found that /etc/rc.local was the right place to put my command.. Thank you to who ever tried to help.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> home time in 40 mins
[14:16] <snarkster> sorry i clicked the wrong thing
[14:18] <snarkster> are any of you running kde4 yet?
[14:19] <kuthulu> I'm waiting...scared to test it out :)
[14:19] <snarkster> ah im going the live cd route. at least get a good look at it then
[14:20] <kuthulu> yeah I've check it out....looks great.  Just worried about upgrading
[14:20] <sigma> ok that program had that feature built in but i didnt see it
[14:20] <spitfire> im running a game on wine
[14:20] <spitfire> but its moving REALLY REALLY
[14:20] <snarkster> yah it would be my luck id download it install it and blow up my laptop
[14:20] <spitfire> SLOWWLYY
[14:21] <snarkster> what game?
[14:21] <XceII> wine crys alot.
[14:21] <spitfire> Babo Violence
[14:21] <snarkster> never heard of it.
[14:21] <spitfire> its a minor game
[14:21] <sigma> Xcell: wats new?
[14:21] <snarkster> Diablo 2 runs great! Starcraft works good..
[14:21] <spitfire> quite a community though
[14:21] <XceII> nothin sigma..U doin ok today?
[14:22] <snarkster> just cant seem to get my wife computer to run sims2, so shes going back to windows
[14:22] <sigma> Xcell: yes indeed, looking forward to the tutorials
[14:22] <spitfire> o damn i think my graphics card isnt installed
[14:22] <XceII> nice..you'll do just fine..you have it inya
[14:22] <spitfire> how can i check?
[14:22] <spitfire> i went to display
[14:22] <spitfire> hardware
[14:23] <sigma> yeah wine is getting there slowly but surely, i managed to get call of duty 2 working flawlessly
[14:23] <spitfire> and my graphics card dosnt look like its there
[14:23] <snarkster> open konsole and do lspci
[14:23] <snarkster> or install the hal stuff
[14:24] <spitfire> command not found
[14:24] <snarkster> probably sudo lspci|grep video
[14:25] <sigma> what card is it?
[14:25] <onishidato> hey guys, i can play mp3 format with amarok now, my problem is amrok, which one provied didn't work, so i have to reinstall it, and it works, thanks all guys
[14:25] <snarkster> sudo lspci|grep video didnt work for my user so i su - then run it
[14:25] <spitfire> snarkster: nothing happened
[14:26] <snarkster> lspci|grep vga
[14:26] <snarkster> sorry
[14:26] <snarkster> caps
[14:26] <snarkster> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)
[14:27] <spitfire> nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]
[14:27] <spitfire> ok
[14:27] <spitfire> snarkster: but you know in the monitor and display
[14:28] <spitfire> snarkster: when i look at the hardware tab
[14:28] <spitfire> snarkster: nothing is there
[14:28] <sfears> make sure you have the restricted drivers downloader installed
[14:28] <spitfire> snarkster: it says nv
[14:28] <TheFishy> whats the APT way to install KDE 4?
[14:28] <spitfire> sfears: how can i do that
[14:28] <sfears> ummm...
[14:28] <sfears> hold
[14:28] <sfears> TheFishy, sudo apt get install kde-desktop
[14:29] <snarkster> yah my wifes laptop uses ati but when i install fglrx it doesnt work
[14:29] <snarkster> so she gets no 3d acceleration
[14:29] <snarkster> smoke break
[14:29] <sigma> snarkster: which laptop?
[14:29] <sfears> search synaptic for "restricted drivers manager"
[14:30] <sfears> that should automatically find the correct nvidia driver for you
[14:30] <TheFishy> sfears: i dont have that as an APT
[14:30] <sfears> mabey kde_desktop?
[14:30] <TheFishy> nope
[14:30] <TheFishy> i have kde4base...
[14:30] <TheFishy> is that is
[14:30] <spitfire> aha i found the restricted drivers, and it seems mine is
[14:30] <spitfire> thanks
[14:30] <unggnu> hi all
[14:31] <spitfire> hi
[14:31] <unggnu> is there a torrent for the RC2 LIve CD?
[14:31] <unggnu> hi spitfire
[14:31] <unggnu> Link seems to be down
[14:31] <sfears> that might be it
[14:31] <sfears> hold
[14:31] <sigma> unggnu: think theres only a torrent for the opensuse one
[14:31] <unggnu> which is bad :)
[14:31] <sfears> sorry
[14:31] <unggnu> not the torrent, der Live CD
[14:31] <sfears> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:31] <unggnu> *the
[14:32] <sfears> that will install the entire kubuntu.. kde & all
[14:32] <sigma> yup it is hopeless, i downloaded da first one, and now i know why people use kubuntu:)
[14:32] <sfears> i was surprised how easy it was to install kubuntu & ubuntu
[14:33] <TheFishy> will installing kde4base install the whole environment?
[14:33] <snarkster> sigma__: its an HP ze4230
[14:33] <sfears> it's my first try at linux.. it's working pretty well.. i think the fact that i'm pretty fluent in windows gets in my way sometimes but all and all it's alright
[14:34] <unggnu> link is working again, thx
[14:34] <emilsedgh> TheFishy: no, i think kde4base-workspace
[14:34] <unggnu> Btw. OpenSuse-LIve-CD has many problems with my graphic card (intel 915 and Monitor configuration)
[14:35] <nareshov> hmm
[14:36] <Mariandroid> oh
[14:36] <Mariandroid> it works
[14:36] <sigma> snarkster: what ati chipset does it have?
[14:36] <fzydf> Is there a way to make sure I'm using the correct drivers for my graphics chipset? I'm running kubuntu 6.06 and a Intel 945GM.
[14:37] <stdin> fzydf: the intel drivers are included
[14:38] <sigma> stdin: do the intel drivers for kubuntu give full 3d support?
[14:38] <stdin> sigma: yep, that's the good thing about having opensource drivers from intel :)
[14:38] <fzydf> how do I know they are running and not like the VESA drivers or something? Because redraw seems slow for accelerated support.
[14:38] <dread> the ones from ati / nvidia kinda lack...
[14:39] <snarkster> sigma__: ATI Radeon IGP 330m/340m/350m
[14:39] <sfears> fzydf, ctrl+alt+f1 to bring up terminal & "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you reconfigure your video drivers
[14:39] <stdin> fzydf: have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, should have "Driver "i810"" or "Driver "intel"" in there
[14:39] <NetersLandreau> i have trouble occasionally getting the fish kioslave to connect to a remote server.. is there a way to force a connection?
[14:39] <stdin> fzydf: you may want to upgrade to something later than 6.06, however, to get newer drivers
[14:40] <sigma> stdin: ok so those pc's that have onboard intel graphics like hp prebuilt machines will all get full 3d support? besides ati which other graphics vendors have bad 3d support in linux?
[14:40] <DreadKnight> nvidia :P
[14:40] <kuthulu> maybe the Envy scrpit would help snakster
[14:40] <Mariandroid> updating upgrading
[14:40] <stdin> sigma: nvidia isn't great, and SIS is horrible
[14:40] <Mariandroid> ( hope all still works after that )
[14:41] <stdin> kuthulu: 1) envy is for nvidia, 2) we don't support envt *at all*, 3) there are pre-build packages for fglrx and 4) it's easier to use the restricted drivers manager
[14:42] <stdin> s/envt/envy/
[14:42] <sigma> stdin: yes i remember my SIS days, it was even bad on windows with the proper drivers! whats so bad about nvidia? seems to work perfectly with my card (the proprietory ones from the repo that is) - are you referring to the opensource nvidia ones?
[14:43] <spitfire> hi all, i unrestricted my graphics card and got wine
[14:43] <spitfire> the game runs
[14:43] <Mariandroid> yum
[14:43] <spitfire> but the mouse dosnt show and theres also gliches in the game
[14:43] <sigma> well thats good to heat
[14:43] <stdin> sigma: no, the proprietary ones. because they aren't open source you can't guarantee they will work with all versions of X/AIGLX
[14:43] <niwa> sorry for leaving so abruptly earlier, anyone still interested in helping with wireless install? (device /w atheros chipset that should be supported by madwifi not being detected, even when manually loading ath_pci)
[14:43] <sigma> hear
[14:43] <TheFishy> how do i install kde4 as a different DE than kde 3.5 on linux mint?
[14:44] <TheFishy> and what would this command do "sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop"
[14:44] <spitfire> does anyone have a clue how to fix it?
[14:44] <stdin> TheFishy: see the topic
[14:45] <hydrogen> TheFishy: what does linux mint have to do with kubuntu?
[14:45] <TheFishy> cause i am on linux mint KDE
[14:45] <hydrogen> and
[14:45] <TheFishy> meaning i am basically running kubuntu
[14:45] <DreadKnight> kde looks best in Kubuntu ;)
[14:45] <hydrogen> but its not kubuntu
[14:45] <House> help guys
[14:46] <TheFishy> not completely...
[14:46] <sigma> stdin: ah i see what you mean, but i see most of the complaints are for the really new cards. do u think the opensource ati ones will ever get close to proper 3d acceleration? they are my last hope since ati stopped supporting my mobility radeon in fglrx, but i have noticed the ati driver getting faster over the releases, but the question is will it get to full 3d?
[14:46] <TheFishy> but its still
[14:46] <House> imusing Kubuntu and its not easy to do anything with it
[14:47] <sigma> House: what are u having trouble with?
[14:47] <House> my brother is using UbuntU and it looks slick he has everything changed in 1 theme file download and imported , for me in KubuntU this gotme nuts i couldnt do nothing im lost it doenst understand me and it has sequence steps for each factor i want a full theme pack just to install
[14:47] <stdin> sigma: ati have a habit of dropping support for older cards all together, in that case the only option is the opensource 2d version
[14:47] <newuser> I know everybody is really busy but I need a little special attention to a sound problem that has been plauging this system since I bought it... I finally found a website that address the issue and there are six steps that should resolve the problem once and for all but you cant get to the website without going to http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/ first and then in search,  Toshiba satellite a205 no sound.. it will then take you to
[14:47] <newuser> the steps...    I really need someone dedicated to helping me do this as I am new to linux and am learning as I  can....  Someone please get me there..              :)
[14:47] <TheFishy> how do i "Add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main to your /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:47] <stdin> TheFishy: edit the file
[14:47] <sigma> stdin: will that 2d ever evolve into a 3d?
[14:48] <nareshov> TheFishy: open konsole and type "sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:48] <stdin> sigma: seeing as ATI opened up their specs a while ago it may do
[14:48] <House> sigma: kubuntu is slow aswell!
[14:48] <TheFishy> ty
[14:48] <DreadKnight> TheFishy: you can get into addept and add the deb.... main line to your 3rd party sources ;)
[14:48] <sigma> house: i like kubuntu's look better, ubuntu actually looks rather plain
[14:49] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i open a .rar file that has a password?
[14:49] <newuser> I have downloaded the three files nessasary to take the steps but I cant get them in the right folder....   Permissions denied
[14:49] <sigma> House: its not slow, u need to set it up properly, more things work in it than in windows for me, for eg my motherboards sound
[14:49] <DreadKnight> i stopped using GNOME for a while.. felt in love with KDE
[14:50] <fzydf> stdin: the xorg.conf had the i810 in there, but the config program caused X to quit during monitor detect... :( but the i810 settings are in there.. :)
[14:50] <House> sigma: ubuntu looks plain i know , my brother just went to gnome-look download 1 package then installed it And OMG if you see it you will not beleive it ubuntu its like a UbuntU Next Generation Operating System
[14:50] <DreadKnight> AWN (avant window navigator is nice)
[14:50] <snarkster> any clues on the fglrx problem?
[14:51] <sigma> house: you should ask him to post a screenshot and send me the link
[14:51] <sigma> dreadknight: what exactly is awn?
[14:51] <DreadKnight> damn old version : http://picasaweb.google.com/dk.vali/Misc/photo#5130605039183911346
[14:52] <House> sigma: a hint is look at vista ... you see how it looks even when you click start do you know the start effect in vista ... for my brother its better then that its similar but a UbuntU touch with it.
[14:53] <House> this is my Kubuntu sigma http://www.spottersphoto.com/uploads/6250eef38f.jpg :(
[14:53] <sigma> house: all that should pitch up in kde4 sooner or later - hav u tested it? they have already re-designed the k-menu
[14:53] <snarkster> house that looks good
[14:53] <House> GOOD?!?!?!? what??
[14:54] <House> you got to be kidding lo
[14:54] <snarkster> no Im not
[14:54] <snarkster> better than windblows
[14:54] <DreadKnight> House: i hate desktop icons... kde4 will bring new usability to desktop with plasma... just use katapult (alt + space)
[14:54] <House> snarkster: then you should try ubuntu maybe ? or maybe see some UbuntU screenshots before considering whats good
[14:54] <sigma> house: whats wrong with that? its nice and clean
[14:54] <House> whats katapult???
[14:54] <House> DreadKnight:
[14:54] <snarkster> house no one is forcing you to use kde.. switch to gnome if you want.
[14:55] <DreadKnight> House: press alt + space and type ;)
[14:55] <House> DAMMMMMM
[14:55] <House> Kubuntu RockZ~!
[14:55] <sigma> snarkster has a point!
[14:55] <DreadKnight> katapult is addictive ;)
[14:55] <House> DreadKnight: is theyr katapult for ubuntu gnome?
[14:55] <sigma> but yes i like kde apps way better than gnome
[14:55] <snarkster> i tried alt-space and it opens a window sub context menu
[14:56] <DreadKnight> also, gnome will have GNOME Do (which is way nicer than katapult so far.. way better than deskbar applet, but not yet stable/included)
[14:56] <sigma> dreadknight: how do i use katapult?
[14:56] <DreadKnight> sigma: press alt + space and type in amarok... then again.. and type in a song name... etc ;)
[14:57] <House> sigma: im for linux rather then windows but i hear KDE is the easiest so im for Kubuntu but the way to set up things the instructions forexample to make a great kicker a great panel a great look installing the compizicon and having the icons the editing perfect needs focus and a long way to complete such task
[14:57] <Riddell> ** PyKDE/Qt tutorial starting in a couple of minutes in #kubuntu-devel
[14:57] <DreadKnight> http://katapult.kde.org/
[14:57] <pastry> whats the best all-round player? that will play both music and videos? and has a playlist? for permanent desktop use?
[14:57] <DreadKnight> gnome do http://do.davebsd.com/ check out the about page (video demostration)
[14:58] <fzydf> what's the point of katapult when you have Alt-F2?
[14:58] <sigma> that is pretty addictive! lol, but a bit too much effort 4me
[14:58] <newuser> Will someone please help me with this sound issue,,,  I have found a website http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com  that deals with 6 steps to solve my problem with my toshiba satellite...  I have downloaded the files nessasary to complete the instal but am STUCK on moving the files to the correct directory.. It is telling me I dont have permission to do this.. I need some help l\]\
[14:58] <House> sigma: and for gnome they built up packages which does all that in 1/2 sec drag and drop . i think the easy must be for Kubuntu rather then Gnome , maybe the builder's have missed the K before working on the projct he3h3
[14:58] <DreadKnight> fzydf: katapult is way nicer
[14:58] <DreadKnight> fzydf: alt+f2 doesn't even have autocompletion so far in kubuntu :(
[14:58] <snarkster> hmm katapult does nothing for me
[14:58] <pastry> i just ran katapult and nothing happens
[14:59] <fzydf> I can't even run xterm from katapult... ?
[14:59] <pastry> other than the splash screen
[14:59] <sigma> snarkster u need to start the app first - on the k-menu
[14:59] <snarkster> did that
[14:59] <DreadKnight> pastry: it's not on splash screen man... you need to type in stuff
[14:59] <DreadKnight> katapult starts automaticaly... you only need to press alt + space and type in..
[15:00] <House> sigma: you read my previouse posts?>
[15:00] <pastry> oh lol
[15:00] <DreadKnight> he left xD
[15:00] <pastry> i see
[15:00] <snarkster> thats what Im saying alt-space only bring up the windows sub contect menu from the left corner
[15:00] <DreadKnight> katapult is very addictive, beware xD
[15:00] <pastry> anyways
[15:00] <snarkster> i press alt-space and nothing appears when im on the dekstop
[15:00] <fzydf> konsole works but not xterm... is there some kind of katapult registry you need to use?
[15:01] <House> damn katapult knows my hidden files aswel
[15:01] <DreadKnight> you can press alt+space and ctrl + c for menu (config etc)
[15:01] <pastry> my previous q...
[15:01] <pastry> whats the best all-round player? that will play both music and videos? and has a playlist? for permanent desktop use? preferrably looks nice and sleek. doesnt have to
[15:01] <snarkster> does nothing
[15:01] <DreadKnight> pastry: give kaffeine (from kde) a try
[15:03] <wolfger> PyKDE and Packaging 101 got switched. When did that happen?
[15:03] <House> sigma how to log in as root kdesudo nautilus?
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> wolfger: dunno, but there is a new schedule.
[15:04] <House> any ideas how to log in as root
[15:04] <stdin> !root | House
[15:04] <ubotu> House: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> House: "sudo -i"
[15:05] <newuser> how do I gain permission
[15:05] <DreadKnight> house: in dolphin right click folder and click open as root is that's what you mean
[15:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: ask nicely
[15:05] <House> no
[15:05] <newuser> sorry sorry sorry....I am new to this and it is getting really frustrating
[15:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: that was a joke
[15:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> what kind of permission were you talking about?
[15:06] <newuser> my comment unfortunetly was not
[15:06] <pastry> ugh
[15:06] <pastry> my sound quality is so crap
[15:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> file permissions, root privileges, etc
[15:06] <newuser> I cant find anyone to hellp me
[15:06] <House> DreadKnight: i want to copy and paste somehting to my windows drive but i cant it says hal storage fixed mount all options refused UID 1001
[15:06] <pastry> and i have a sound card :/
[15:06] <fzydf> DreadKnight: I tried going into the config thing for the programs and unchecked all the boxes but it still won't work for xterm
[15:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: this is a bad time of day for helpers around here
[15:06] <newuser> oh boy
[15:06] <newuser> just my luck
[15:07] <DreadKnight> House: you have dolphin right?
[15:07] <snarkster> nah ill see what i can do
[15:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> but, perhaps i can help
[15:07] <snarkster> what do you need newuser
[15:07] <House> yes
[15:07] <Jyzygzel-> how do you mount windows partitions+
[15:07] <newuser> I have a sound issue with my toshiba satellite a205\
[15:07] <cheguevara> does http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/kubuntu-tutorials-day/ load for anyone
[15:07] <newuser> I also found the website with 6 steps to fix it
[15:08] <newuser> I am stuck on step 3 moving the files to the right dir
[15:08] <fzydf> cheguevara: no
[15:08] <House> yes DreadKnight ?
[15:08] <spitfire> can someone help with installing themes?
[15:08] <DreadKnight> House: browse the drive with dolphin and right click inside and choose open as root
[15:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: can you link to the site you're using?
[15:09] <newuser> http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com      search for so sound toshiba a205-s4707
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> newuser: ah, permission denied? run it with a prefix of "sudo", i.e. "sudo commandname"
[15:09] <House> you know i love Kubuntu i just want a way to change the look of it to look slicker then the default
[15:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh...  i wonder something...  you're compiling alsa, aren't you?
[15:09] <wolfger> Firefox is not loading those first 3 URLs
[15:09] <newuser> I tried the sudo command and it didnt work
[15:09] <newuser> politely of course:)
[15:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> hehe
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> newuser: what command are you trying to execute?
[15:10] <TheFishy> I keep getting this error
[15:10] <TheFishy> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:10] <TheFishy>   kcontrol kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-data kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-dev kdepimlibs5 kdepimlibs5-dev
[15:10] <TheFishy>   kdesktop kdm kfind konqueror python-qt4
[15:10] <House> thanks DreadKnight ,but what about kubuntu  look :/
[15:10] <TheFishy> when trying to upgrade
[15:10] <TheFishy> how do i fix this?
[15:10] <newuser> sudo cp
[15:11] <DreadKnight> House: well, new to kubuntu/kde myself.. so i like the look so far xD i consider gnome ugly now :D
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks  : )
[15:11] <newuser> sudo cp /usr/src/alsa/alsa-*
[15:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: cp /downloads/alsa-*
[15:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> that?
[15:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[15:11] <DreadKnight> House: 11 january i think and we'll run kde4 :)
[15:11] <newuser> well...  its not there...  let me try something
[15:12] <stdin> TheFishy: use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:12] <House> DreadKnight: i know its ugly for the default
[15:12] <House> but ubuntu looks slick if you want to see how it can be customized DreadKnight
[15:12] <DreadKnight> House: i made nice customizations myself on gnome :)
[15:12] <DreadKnight> try out AWN
[15:13] <House> DreadKnight: to look like a GOD System?
[15:13] <newuser> I get cp missing destination file operand after /~/downloads/alsa-*
[15:13] <House> DreadKnight: i wish i know how kubuntu installation of themes work becaues i try and try it refuses ... i hope they fix such problem for the people
[15:13] <nosrednaekim> newuser: you're not telling it where to copy it to.
[15:13] <DreadKnight> House: never tried to install a theme... :\
[15:13] <TheFishy> stdin: after this upgrade i should have KDE4 in my session list now right?
[15:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: that's the weird thing
[15:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> it actually says that in the howto
[15:14] <House> DreadKnight: thanks for helping :( i gtg but thanks anyways to all .. give a try www.kde-look,org
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: hmmm bad howto.
[15:14] <DreadKnight> TheFishy: i'm not sure kde4 got included in kubuntu 8.04 yet
[15:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> very
[15:14] <newuser> ok... let me try again
[15:14] <House> DreadKnight: www.kde-look.org
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> TheFishy: yes, kde4 is in the hardy repositories
[15:14] <stdin> TheFishy: if you installed the packages it says, yes
[15:14] <DreadKnight> House: i will, but usually like to use default or what i get :) anyway ...
[15:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/fix-no-sound-for-ubuntu-in-toshiba-satellite-a205-s4707/
[15:15] <House> hehe \=) cia's all
[15:15] <DreadKnight> who tried kde4? i wanted to try with virtualbox but it gets stuck...
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: yeah.... I'm kinda busy listening to riddell right now <_<
[15:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> why virtualbox?
[15:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> just install it
[15:15] <pastry> how do i set the buffer of the video in kaffiene? its got a fairly slow cpu and the picture kinda lags behind
[15:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's still not that spectacular though
[15:15] <DreadKnight> Daisuke_Laptop: seems i got some kde4 packages in adept..
[15:15] <newuser> the files are in /home/downloads     and need to go to /usr/src/alsa   how would I code it?
[15:15] <TheFishy> DreadKnight: I am running linux mint
[15:16] <fzydf> Is it possible to use kde with a different window manager?
[15:16] <DreadKnight> TheFishy: what are you doing over here man? :D
[15:16] <DreadKnight> fzydf: kde4 will proabably work on top of windows
[15:16]  * TheFishy sighs cause the mint channel sucks and i am using the kde version of mint
[15:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> they're probably in /~/downloads (that adds your username to home)
[15:16] <DreadKnight> TheFishy: linuxmint defaults to gnome?
[15:17] <TheFishy> DreadKnight: no...
[15:17] <DrUnKnMuNkY> DreadKnight: running it right now. it's stable enough. plasma's not perfect. if you can wait i'd wait till the full release unless oyu don't mind using the svn daily builds
[15:17] <fzydf> DreadKnight: you mean like Microsoft? cuz I meant under Linux.
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> so...  sudo cp ~/downloads/alsa-* /usr/src/alsa/
[15:17] <newuser> ok  ill try that
[15:17] <TheFishy> DreadKnight: How do u run kde4 on windows? like VM or like On on windows... instead of w/e DE it uses
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> you don't need the leading slash before ~, as that already includes it
[15:17] <DreadKnight> fzydf: yeah... pretty much all qt4 applications will get ported
[15:17] <newuser> do I need to be in the alsa dir in term or does it matter]
[15:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> for this it doesn't matter :)
[15:18] <DreadKnight> TheFishy: not right now, for example amarok 2.0 will be cross-platform
[15:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's where the howto writer screwed up
[15:18] <stdin> cheguevara: i386 version seems to be still building for hardy
[15:18] <DreadKnight> DrUnKnMuNkY: i need some help with that man :)
[15:18] <cheguevara> stdin, yeah seems like it
[15:19] <DrUnKnMuNkY> DreadKnight: me too. someone just pointed me here: http://techbase.kde.org
[15:19] <fzydf> mmm. is it possible to use like say... twm or something with kde? or is that a silly question?
[15:19] <cheguevara> stdin: lets blame Hobbsee :P
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> fzydf: with kde apps, yes
[15:19] <DreadKnight> DrUnKnMuNkY: will check it out
[15:20] <fzydf> nosrednaekim: is that the same thing as "running kde" then? It's just all about the the program libraries using what they need to?
[15:20] <snarkster> later
[15:20] <newuser> cannot start /downloads/alsa-*  No such file or directory
[15:20] <DrUnKnMuNkY> DreadKnight:  it's a lot better than rc1 for sure. i used that once then didn't touch it again till rc2 came out. it's definitely almost ready now
[15:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> not /downloads, ~/downloads
[15:20] <DreadKnight> DrUnKnMuNkY: i haven
[15:21] <newuser> I tried that just now,,,  got the same thing\
[15:21] <DreadKnight> t managed to run any kde4 versions so far... heh..
[15:21] <TheFishy> stdin: I got theses errors when upgrading the way u said too
[15:21] <TheFishy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:21] <TheFishy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb
[15:21] <TheFishy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb
[15:21] <TheFishy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_i386.deb
[15:21] <TheFishy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb
[15:21] <TheFishy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:21] <stdin> TheFishy: use pastebin to show
[15:21] <newuser> files are on my desktop as well as in the download dir\
[15:21] <stdin> !paste > TheFishy
[15:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd to the directory where the downloads are
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah!
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> that makes it easy
[15:22] <TheFishy> oops sorry
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> !brokenkde4 > TheFishy
[15:22] <TheFishy> I will pastebin nes time
[15:22] <newuser> yea  EASY for u 2 say...  lol
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: sudo cp ~/Desktop/alsa-* /usr/src/alsa/
[15:22] <newuser> trying
[15:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> remember the capital D
[15:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> case sensitivity can be a pain sometimes
[15:23] <DreadKnight> any blender users around here?
[15:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> i've been known to make the occasional smoothie or frozen margarita, yes
[15:24] <jembouge> Hi guys
[15:24] <TheFishy> more errors
[15:24] <TheFishy> http://pastebin.ca/814768
[15:25] <newuser> look at that,,,, I accually got somewhere.. Ok now that there where they need to be I need to get a program that I dont know what to do with it is called bunzip2 and it isnt in my synaptic manager search
[15:25] <jembouge> anyone knows how to "unlock" apt/adept/synaptic ... ?     they say they can't install stuff because some file can't be read
[15:25] <nosrednaekim> DreadKnight: please stop spamming the -devel channel.
[15:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> mmmkay, the guy that wrote this howto made a large number of assumptions that he shouldn't have
[15:26] <newuser> are you talking to me  I hope
[15:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes
[15:26] <mith__> hi all! how can i fix my apt?
[15:26] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[15:26] <newuser> cool\
[15:26] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> so, let's see if we can get through this :)
[15:26] <stdin> TheFishy: use "sudo aptitude remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') kde4base kde4base-dev kdebase-bin-kde3+"
[15:26] <newuser> OH THANK U
[15:26] <Arelis> Guys, i'm trying to run KDE 4 but i get this message: bash: startkde: command not found
[15:27] <nosrednaekim> Arelis: install kdebase-runtime
[15:27] <LjL> nosrednaekim: so the idea is that one doesn't write KDE applications anymore (at least in Python), just Qt ones...?!
[15:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: type 'bunzip2' at a terminal and see what message you get - that's one of those little utilities that should be installed by default
[15:27] <newuser> bunzip2
[15:27] <Arelis> nosrednaekim: already installed
[15:27] <nosrednaekim> LjL: pretty much...
[15:27] <Arelis> nosrednaekim: do i have to set a kind of path?
[15:27] <newuser> wrong comp  wooops
[15:27]  * LjL likes this less and less
[15:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> hehe
[15:28] <newuser> I wont read compressed data from a terminal
[15:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> excellent
[15:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> that means it's there
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> Arelis: its in /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[15:28] <newuser> cool
[15:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd to the /usr/src/alsa directory
[15:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> and you can start from: taufanlubis@toshiba:/usr/src/alsa$ sudo bunzip2 alsa-driver-1.0.15.tar.bz2
[15:29] <newuser> ok
[15:29] <newuser> start from /usr right?
[15:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> start from /usr/src/alsa
[15:30] <mith__> can anybody help me?
[15:30] <newuser> hahaha   I cant believe I asked that   trying now
[15:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> instead of using su root, use sudo -s
[15:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser ^
[15:31] <newuser> ok,,, I think it did something
[15:31] <newuser> just went back to cursur
[15:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was the...  bunzip?  or the tar?
[15:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> or are you past those
[15:32] <TheFishy> stdin: will u walk my through the kde4 install step by step please?
[15:32] <newuser> bunzip
[15:32] <mith__> if i try to install any package, adept gives me this message:"some packages couldn't installed" but the installed programs are in their place and works well
[15:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> k
[15:32] <stdin> TheFishy: after you ran that command I gave, just run "sudo apt-get install kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime"
[15:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it just went back to the cursor, you can move onto the next step, which is to expand the tarball (the tar command line he gives)
[15:33] <newuser> k
[15:33] <TheFishy> stdin: thats it?
[15:33] <stdin> TheFishy: yes
[15:34] <stdin> TheFishy: make sure you've ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first though
[15:34] <newuser> ok   it sugests to use root not sudo    how to access root
[15:34] <stdin> newuser: use "sudo -i"
[15:34] <newuser> I am in also driver
[15:34] <newuser> alsa
[15:35] <newuser> thx
[15:35] <newuser> I got no such file or directory???
[15:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> eh?
[15:36] <stdin> newuser: after you "sudo -i" you need to cd to the directory again
[15:36] <newuser> usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.15$ su root
[15:36] <mith__> if i try to install any package, adept gives me this message:"some packages couldn't installed" but the installed programs are in their place and works well...can anybody help me?
[15:36] <stdin> newuser: and don't "su"
[15:36] <newuser> woops...lol  Im learning the hard way
[15:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> skip the su root line
[15:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's what i was talking about
[15:36] <newuser> k
[15:36] <W8TAH> i accidently removed my K menu how do i get it back
[15:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> stdin: i want to beat the guy that wrote this howto with a shovel
[15:36] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: =right click on panel->add applet->kmneu
[15:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh, and for the ./configure line
[15:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> replace ; with &&
[15:37] <W8TAH> THANKS
[15:37] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: NP
[15:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> he seems excited
[15:38] <TheFishy> stdin: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first before the install command?
[15:38] <cheguevara> nixternal, whats the name of that book again u were saying is great earlier on?
[15:38] <mith__> help me please!
[15:38] <newuser> still get no such filee    on         /usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver
[15:38] <stdin> TheFishy: yes, you need to make sure you have the updated kdebase packages
[15:39] <TheFishy> ok well i didn't do that
[15:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.15
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> mith__: right now is NOT a good time for help, come back later today
[15:39] <TheFishy> but i just ran it and it said i didn't need anything
[15:39] <TheFishy> will it still  work?
[15:39] <stdin> TheFishy: that's ok then
[15:39] <newuser> ok
[15:39] <newuser> did that just now
[15:39] <TheFishy> ok brb restarting X again
[15:39] <newuser> .configure is next?
[15:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> mith__: at a !terminal , try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[15:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: i'm going to go ahead and fix his lines :)
[15:40] <newuser> cool of U
[15:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> ./configure –with-cards=hda-intel –with-sequencer=yes && make && make install
[15:40] <newuser> all of that that way right?
[15:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> you can just copy and paste the entire thing, including the period at the beginning
[15:41] <newuser> two computers  cant
[15:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[15:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> well then, yes, exactly like that :)
[15:41] <LjL> stdin, it seems that my latest kde4 rc2 installation has resulted in some interesting things... such as the fact that when i click on an HTTP link in Konversation (didn't try other apps yet), i get an "Open With" dialog with "Type: text/html-kde4", (and if i click on the "Open With" button, i get an empty Konqueror window, and the dialog comes up again)
[15:41] <pastry> is it possible to forward all the sounds from my windows computer through lan to my kubuntu computer, which has the sound system installed to it?
[15:41] <newuser> workin it
[15:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> i expect a couple possibilities: gcc can't create executables
[15:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> or success :)
[15:42] <stdin> LjL: hmm, that's a bit odd
[15:43] <newuser> no such file
[15:43] <newuser> u forgot the third poss
[15:43] <stdin> LjL: it may be because the .desktop files for the kde4 apps were slightly messed up (not sure if the fix is in gutsy PPA get)
[15:43] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  At the top of my screen there's these little skinny lines.  They overlap the menubar.
[15:43] <Ertain> If anybody wants I can show you a screenshot.
[15:43] <newuser> i suspect I am in the wrong dir?
[15:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> pastebin the results of ls /usr/bin/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.15 for me
[15:43] <jussi01> stdin: I find it odd that on kde 4 if you lock the screen your normal root pasword will not let let you log bback on...
[15:44] <mith__> thx it works
[15:44] <newuser> ?
[15:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> wait, can't
[15:44] <nosrednaekim> jussi01: its a known bug/problem
[15:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> shoot
[15:44] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: ahh.. kk then...
[15:44] <stdin> jussi01: why would root be able to unlock it? unless root is running the kde session (which is not good)
[15:44] <nosrednaekim> stdin: nothing can unlock it.
[15:44] <jussi01> stdin: s/root/user
[15:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> although I THINK there was a fix on theetchbase page
[15:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> that should get us through this next part :)
[15:45] <nosrednaekim> * the techbase
[15:45] <stdin> jussi01: that's more like it, but as nosrednaekim said it's an upstream issue
[15:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: nice typo though, i thought it was a debian site :)
[15:45] <newuser> done
[15:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> already installed?
[15:45] <newuser> already installed newest    no changeds
[15:46] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: heh :D
[15:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> what directory does it say you're in?
[15:46] <newuser> /usr/src/alsa#
[15:46] <TheFishy> stdin: So i tried to launch into kde4 the screen shows my desktop wallpaper, turns black and goes back into login
[15:46] <newuser> as root
[15:46] <smooker> hi :)
[15:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd alsa-driver-1.0.15
[15:46] <TheFishy> stdin: Then I launched KDE 3.5 and my theme was all messed up
[15:47] <TheFishy> Now kde 3.5 is back to normal but what do i do about kde4
[15:47] <DreadKnight> can i have kde4 separated from kde3.5 as a different session.. ?
[15:47] <newuser> ok\
[15:47] <nosrednaekim> DreadKnight: certainly
[15:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> now hit up until you get to that configure line i pasted earlier, and hit enter
[15:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> (command history is so nice)
[15:47] <newuser> ok  previously command is now in use and smokin the sys
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> awesome
[15:48] <stdin> TheFishy: try running it in Xephyr (instructions are on the announcement page)
[15:48] <newuser> :)|
[15:48] <newuser> so after we mv to step 4?
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes we do :)
[15:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> assuming the configure, make, and make install are working properly
[15:49] <newuser> hacking can be so much fun      especially if you dont know what your doing  :)
[15:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> no reason they shouldn't be :)
[15:49] <newuser> ok its done
[15:49] <BluesKaj> build-essential
[15:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> any error messages at all?
[15:50] <PJC121> having a problem opening Konqueror in KDE4 from the livecd, is it a known bug?
[15:50] <newuser> the mixer channels for the alsa are muted by default
[15:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh wow...  if that's the only error you got, we're ready for step 4
[15:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> chmod a+rw /dev/dsp /dev/mixer /dev/sequencer
[15:51] <newuser> just did the ls
[15:51] <newuser> dsp mixer and dev/sequencer all there
[15:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> go ahead and do the chmod line, should work exactly as he has it
[15:52] <newuser> ok just went immediatly to curser in the same dir
[15:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> k
[15:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> step 5 :)
[15:53] <newuser> cd
[15:53] <newuser> ok
[15:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> those commands should work if you enter them exactly as entered :)
[15:54] <newuser> bunzip cant open
[15:55] <TheFishy> stdin: that page isn't shown the the topic anymore what is it?
[15:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> bunzip2
[15:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> and there's a space between cd and ..
[15:55] <newuser> ok misses a step.. the  ..
[15:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd .. takes you up one directory
[15:55] <newuser> k
[15:56] <newuser> need to get back to alsa driver I think
[15:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> just /usr/bin/alsa
[15:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> wait
[15:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's /usr/src/alsa
[15:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> whoopsie
[15:56] <newuser> no such file or dir
[15:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> no /usr/src/alsa ?
[15:57] <newuser> right
[15:57] <stdin> TheFishy: is is now
[15:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd /usr/src/alsa
[15:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> we were just here installing things :)
[15:58] <newuser> got it I think...again it just went back to the dir
[15:58] <TheFishy> ty
[15:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> cool, which is all you needed
[15:58] <snarkster> hi again. I just ran the kde4 live cd.. looks awesome. If i should install this live cd, can I still run my kde3 software? battle for wesnoth and such?
[15:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> bunzip2 alsa-lib-1.0.15.tar.bz
[15:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> bunzip2 alsa-lib-1.0.15.tar.bz2
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: certainly
[15:58] <snarkster> awesome
[15:59] <newuser> what about the cd alsa-lib
[15:59] <PJC121> snarkster: did you have any problems with konqueror?
[15:59] <snarkster> will amarok still work as well or is there a new kde4 version
[15:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> they again forgot a line
[15:59] <newuser> I get no such file or dir
[15:59] <newuser> oh boy
[15:59] <snarkster> yes I did as Im wireless and live cd could not access my home drive to install the ndis stuff
[15:59] <kingzar> can you get gnome stuff on a desktop of kde?
[15:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: after doing the bunzip2, do: tar -xf alsa-lib-1.0.15.tar
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: there is a kde4 version which is more-or-less broke, but kde3 amarok will work
[15:59] <newuser> in what dir?
[16:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> in the /usr/bin/alsa
[16:00] <newuser> k
[16:00] <PJC121> snarkster: ah, I was just wondering as the ap doesnt open at all for me, crashes straight back to the desktop
[16:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is before you cd into alsa-lib-1.0.15
[16:00] <PJC121> thanks though :)
[16:00] <snarkster> does amarok for kde4 look any different?
[16:00] <newuser> k
[16:00] <Riddell> ** bug triage tutorial in #kubuntu-devel starting now
[16:00] <newuser> same results as before
[16:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> expanded a bunch of files?
[16:01] <newuser> just goes back to cursor
[16:01] <DreadKnight> amarok 2.0 will follow soon, with redesigned GUI
[16:01] <newuser> no
[16:01] <TheFishy_> ok so i ran it...
[16:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd alsa-lib-1.0.15
[16:01] <TheFishy_> it brought up kde 3.5 when i typed startkde
[16:01] <john> not necessarily on topic - what's the mem/cpu utilization for amarok vs xmms?
[16:01] <snarkster> awesome, but if memory serves this is only RC2 so things will change when final comes out correct?
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: yeah,
[16:02] <newuser> no such file
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> john: amarok uses far more of both
[16:02] <DreadKnight> isn't it rc1?
[16:02] <snarkster> ok last question.. has anyone in here switched fully to kde4 rc2?
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> DreadKnight: RC2 was released two days ago
[16:02] <TheFishy> and then it crashed
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: yes
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: me
[16:02] <newuser> ok im there   I put a / before alsa
[16:02] <TheFishy> how do i version my KDE?
[16:02] <snarkster> nosrednaekim: any regrets?
[16:02] <DreadKnight> nosrednaekim: i was off town xD just came back home for the kubuntu tutorial day... nice news man :)
[16:02] <john> that's what i thought - just started using amarok on 7.10 and love it though
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: not in RC2!
[16:03] <nosrednaekim> john: I think its worth it :D
[16:03] <snarkster> awesome
[16:03] <DreadKnight> start using katapult people! alt + space
[16:03] <DreadKnight> xD
[16:03] <snarkster> amarok is the stuff og the gods. :)
[16:03] <TheFishy> DreadKnight: do u know how i can get the version of my kde
[16:03] <snarkster> katapult still doesnt work
[16:03] <stdin> TheFishy: instead of "startkde" use "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde"
[16:03] <wolfger> everything I need to know about triage I learned from M*A*S*H :-)
[16:03] <TheFishy> oh ok ty
[16:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: you're where exactly?
[16:04] <newuser> wow.....  cannot open:  No such file or directory   tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting nnow
[16:04] <roman_> по русски кто поможет?
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> ok.. bye every one!
[16:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ru | roman_
[16:04] <ubotu> roman_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[16:04] <snarkster> later
[16:04] <DreadKnight> TheFishy: not sure, try right clicking on the menu bar and then "about kde"
[16:04] <newuser> /usr/src/alsa/alsa-lib-1.0.15
[16:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh, you're already there :)
[16:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> do: ./configure && make && make install
[16:05] <TheFishy> stdin:
[16:05] <TheFishy> Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?
[16:05] <TheFishy> [1]+  Exit 1                  Xephyr :1
[16:05] <fmo> hi there, I would like to create an install of Kubuntu but just with Kde4 bits to play with the new libs, I don't want a livecd, unless there is a way to install it to disk
[16:05] <snarkster> fmo there is away to install it from live cd
[16:05] <newuser> YEA baby!!
[16:05] <newuser> sorry
[16:05] <kingzar> what's the best dock software?
[16:05] <snarkster> I just downloaded it and am planning on installing it shortly
[16:05] <newuser> hahaha    smokin again
[16:05] <kingzar> bg/awn?
[16:06] <kingzar> kooldock or awn sorry
[16:06] <stdin> TheFishy: it's because you changed DISPLAY before, just add "export DISPLAY=:0;" before "Xephyr :1"
[16:06]  * Daisuke_Laptop chuckles
[16:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's nice when things work isn't it :)
[16:06] <newuser> oh yea
[16:06] <DreadKnight> kingzar: awn
[16:06] <fmo> I have the kde4rc2 livecd from Kubuntu website, is it possible to install it to disk then?
[16:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> look at the bright side
[16:06] <newuser> you really know your stuff
[16:06] <snarkster> fmo: yes
[16:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> the next step is just like this one
[16:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> nah
[16:06] <kingzar> thanks DreadKnight
[16:07] <fmo> snarkster: how?
[16:07] <DreadKnight> :)
[16:07] <newuser> I think it is also the last
[16:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i've only been using it for a little over a year
[16:07] <snarkster> i clicked on someting and it began the install
[16:07] <kingzar> is it possible to acces a external harddisk on ntfs?!
[16:07] <Taggnostr> hello
[16:07] <kingzar> !ntfs
[16:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[16:07] <newuser> I read above that I will not need to mess with the kernal\
[16:07] <snarkster> fmo: just load the cd up and look round abit.. youll find it
[16:07] <newuser> a very efficent year
[16:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> you won't need to mess with the kernel, but you will need to load the modules :)
[16:07] <DreadKnight> search for ntfs in your adept / add/remove thingy
[16:07] <newuser> ok done
[16:08] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g
[16:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> k: i'm going to give you the exact commands in a PM
[16:08] <Taggnostr> i was trying to install kubuntu on a virtualbox virtual machine but i get an error when i create the partition, what settings should i use to create them?
[16:08] <fmo> snarkster: I'm doing it as we speak
[16:08] <stdin> ntfs-3g is pre-installed in feisty+
[16:08] <DreadKnight> yup
[16:08] <newuser> how to get in a pm?
[16:08] <snarkster> fmo: lucky.. Im wireless so Ill have to move intot he other room
[16:08] <DreadKnight> private massages.. listed like channels
[16:08] <newuser> looks like the computer has frozen!!!
[16:08] <DreadKnight> e*
[16:08] <Riddell> limac: search for riddell
[16:08] <limac> where?
[16:08] <limac> in planet.kde.org?
[16:08] <newuser> no it hasnt... Im good
[16:09] <Riddell> limac: yes
[16:09] <limac> Riddell: hold on a sec! :)
[16:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: get those?
[16:10] <limac> Riddell: found it, then?
[16:10] <lousygarua> hello, does anyone really use konquer on the kde world? should i check my CSS's on kde as well?
[16:10] <Taggnostr> should i set the swap to primary o logical? beginning or end? mount point?
[16:10] <snarkster> id love to set firefox as my default but unlike other distros this one doesnt ask that question
[16:11] <TheFishy> stdin: it gives me the error that kde is already running
[16:11] <stdin> lousygarua: many, many people do. and if your CSS is actually valid to a standard it will work in konqueror
[16:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> a lot of people use konqueror, and it's a pretty well standards compliant browser.  every one has its own quirks, of course
[16:11] <stdin> TheFishy: close Xephyr and the shell, then try again
[16:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i think i lost newuser
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, logical/end
[16:11] <TheFishy> ok
[16:11] <Taggnostr> without mount point?
[16:11] <TheFishy> all it did now is run a bunch of crap really fast
[16:12] <TheFishy> then exit
[16:12] <lousygarua> stdin: i got a very valid xhtml+css that works good on ff+opera. on konquer it looks good but not perfect, i'll dig into it later probably some silly issue
[16:12] <jussi01> stdin: are you cerain about preinstallation in feisty? I thought it was in the repos and not preinstalled
[16:12] <newuser> No
[16:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, there you are
[16:12] <newuser> u didnt   the sys is smokin again
[16:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> :D
[16:12] <newuser> :)
[16:12] <stdin> jussi01: yep, as of feisty it is pre-installed
[16:12] <TheFishy> stdin: I will just use it when it was stable... how do i erase everything now...
[16:12] <BluesKaj> swap doesn't need mountpoint
[16:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> and *now* we are getting close to the end :)
[16:12] <newuser> COOL
[16:12]  * jussi01 goes to edit the page about ntfs-3g on the wiki...
[16:13] <fmo> Snarkster: Found it, thx a lot :)
[16:13] <newuser> its done and back to curser
[16:13] <snarkster> yup
[16:13] <Taggnostr> what about the dimension? the virtual machine has 512mb of ram and 10gb of hard disk
[16:13] <snarkster> fmo: come back here when your done and let me know if everything works..
[16:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> bad news, the next couple steps are going to require a lot of typing
[16:14] <stdin> TheFishy: "sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 kde4base-data kde4libs-data"
[16:14] <Taggnostr> s/dimension/size/
[16:14] <newuser> its ok
[16:14] <TheFishy> ty
[16:14] <newuser> so much for your tip..HAHAHA
[16:14] <limac> Riddell: Then wat, after I found you name?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> oh virtual machine .. sorry I'm not well versed in that .. I just dual boot when necessary
[16:14] <Riddell> limac: then check back tomorrow when I'll have posted where we put the logs
[16:14] <Riddell> they'll be linked from the KubuntuTutorialsDay page too
[16:14] <fmo> snarkster: thx, I'll probably need help to try to get Koffice and Amorok from svn :)
[16:15] <limac> Riddell: thx dude for ur help! :P ;)
[16:15] <Taggnostr> it should be the same, isn't it?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> newuser , you din't have alsa installed by default ?
[16:15] <snarkster> fmo: i hear that amarok for kde4 doesnt work.. stick to kde3 version of amarok
[16:15] <TheFishy> stdin: thank you for all your help, you are a great person and have wonderful people skills... thank you again and have a nice day...
[16:15] <stdin> bye TheFishy
[16:15] <newuser> BlueKaj  I guess not
[16:15] <BluesKaj> weird
[16:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: he did, BUT
[16:15] <fmo> snarkster: it's just for testing and maybe start a bit of development on Kde4
[16:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> 1.0.14
[16:16] <TheFishy> stdin: bye.
[16:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> and the chipset in the laptop he bought isn't supported in anything earlier than 1.0.15rc2
[16:16]  * BluesKaj waits for the but ....
[16:16] <newuser> RIGHT!  i rem gettin that the other day
[16:16] <Marcio-Torres> Pessoal como eu edito o xorg.conf usando o kate   ?
[16:16] <bazhang> !es | Marcio-Torres
[16:16] <ubotu> Marcio-Torres: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> bazhang: portugese, actually, but close :)
[16:17] <bazhang> oops sorry Marcio-Torres
[16:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> (i wouldn't have known if he weren't already on kubuntu-br)
[16:17] <pastry> when i try to share a file from kubuntu, it sais "SMB and NFX servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed." how do i go about installing these "SMB and NFS servers"?
[16:17] <bazhang> !pt
[16:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:17] <pastry> *NFS, not NFX
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Marcio-Torres, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:18] <newuser> hahahahaha   Im sitting here not knowing about the pm,,,,Time to make the dougnuts
[16:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm putting the commands there to avoid flooding the channel :)
[16:19] <lingard> how can i change the "workgroup" on kubuntu?
[16:19] <snarkster> edit the samba.conf file
[16:20] <lingard> i'll see if i can do that on my own :)
[16:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: are you in a working kde environment on the other computer?
[16:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> lingard: it's very well documented in the file, you'll be alright :)
[16:21] <newuser> YES    ok... I got alsamixer funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[16:21] <newuser> after exit should I go to / dir?
[16:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> you did all 4 modprobe lines?
[16:22] <newuser> y
[16:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> ls -l /dev/dsp
[16:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> just give me the string of letters at the beginning of the line
[16:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> should be crw-rw-rw
[16:23] <newuser> im now back to the reg user dir
[16:23] <newuser> can we go private?
[16:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> you'll have to register your nickname
[16:23] <lingard> it says i don't have write access
[16:23] <newuser> im not sure where i should be now
[16:24] <lingard> how do i do it via the terminal?
[16:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: the where doesn't matter right now :)
[16:24] <DreadKnight> lingard: sudo -i
[16:24] <snarkster> ive got a strange problem.. I migrated this computer from fedora8 (yuck) to Kubuntu but my other users dont have sound.. Only I do.
[16:24] <snarkster> how do i fix that
[16:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> snarkster: add them to the audio group
[16:25] <snarkster> ah good thanks
[16:25] <DreadKnight> snarkster: maybe from the sound settings? muted or minimum?
[16:25] <DreadKnight> audio group sounds nice xD
[16:25] <cheguevara> jping dthacker
[16:25] <cheguevara> *ping
[16:26] <lingard> so it should just be sudo -i /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[16:26] <DreadKnight> no
[16:26] <DreadKnight> lingard: sudo -i is to start an administrative session... otherwise just use sudo
[16:26] <snarkster> sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:27] <stdin> don't tell people to use vi...
[16:27] <DreadKnight> snarkster: can you upload a screenshot of vi?
[16:27] <lingard> why couldn't it just be edit
[16:27] <stdin> use nano
[16:27] <snarkster> hmm whats the matter with vi?
[16:27] <DreadKnight> if you upg ubuntu you don't get it installed.... just from new version cd install xD
[16:27] <stdin> snarkster: for someone who's not used to it, a lot
[16:27] <DreadKnight> i used gedit all my ubuntu/gnome life xD
[16:28] <dthacker> cheguevara:
[16:28] <dthacker> cheguevara: pong
[16:28] <cheguevara> dthacker: just got interesting in that bug 'cause that behaviour annoyed me also
[16:28] <snarkster> well i understand your point, but vi is a common editor, and most linux users should know how to use it.  I didnt know nano was installed by default
[16:28] <cheguevara> and the fact that since its in KDE4's dolphin makes it worse
[16:29] <DreadKnight> i love dolphin / kde xD
[16:29] <DreadKnight> and a while ago i was refering to KDE as "krap" :\
[16:29] <dthacker> I tested by selecting all files dir, then doing "sleep 15: touch foo" to watch when new file created
[16:29] <cheguevara> but there's no point of the launchpad bug it needs to be upstreamed
[16:29] <snarkster> dolphin isnt bad, but isnt it surpurfilous?
[16:29] <DreadKnight> snarkster: what do you mean?
[16:29] <cheguevara> yeah dthacker i just did the same
[16:29] <cheguevara> it refreshes and selection is gone
[16:30] <snarkster> konqueror works as a file browser as well.
[16:30] <snarkster> what is the difference
[16:30] <SSJ_GZ> snarkster: Many people utterly despise Konqueror and refuse to use it.  No accounting for taste, I guess, but there we go :)
[16:30] <snarkster> good point
[16:30] <stdin> snarkster: in kde4 konquror used the dolphin-part for file management, so using konqueror as a file manager is surpurfilous
[16:31] <snarkster> ah.. well whatever it works
[16:31] <lingard> grr
[16:31] <DreadKnight> well, liked the idea of universal manager/viewer when started to use kubuntu, but i love dolphin...
[16:31] <lingard> it still says i'm on the mshome network
[16:31] <DreadKnight> okular will also be great
[16:32] <snarkster> lingard is there a mshome network in your house?
[16:32] <lingard> not at all
[16:32] <BluesKaj> SSJ_GZ, konq suffers abit in the eye candy dept and in my experience is slower than FF even with IPv6 disabled , but I still feel safer using it .
[16:32] <cheguevara> dthacker, question is does konq in kde 3 do the same thing?
[16:32] <DreadKnight> my ISP links me in a network with all the pcs nearby
[16:32] <snarkster> lingard do sudo apt-get install smb4k
[16:32] <dthacker> cheguevara: hmmm let me try....
[16:32] <cheguevara> dthacker, thx, cause i am on kde4 right now
[16:33] <lingard> already installed
[16:33] <snarkster> smb4k should allow you to see all smb networks and computers.
[16:33] <lingard> when going into remote places > samba shares > mshome   and it shows this machine
[16:33] <lingard> it does
[16:33] <snarkster> that means that your computer is the only one on the mshome network.
[16:34] <lingard> but i'm unable to access shared files from remote machines
[16:34] <lingard> i changed the smb.conf to my home network
[16:34] <snarkster> if you edit the smb.conf file and change your network name and then restart smb youll change networks.  Of course Im old style and edit it by hand but im sure there is some admin tool in here that you can use.
[16:35] <dthacker> cheguevara: no, konq keeps all the original files selected and shows foofoo.txt as unselected
[16:35] <lingard> how do i restart it?
[16:35] <snarkster> lingard: youll need to restart smb then with service smb restart
[16:35] <cheguevara> dthacker, ah good, so we can push it as a regression :P
[16:35] <lingard> how?
[16:35] <snarkster> open konsole and type sudo service smb restart
[16:36] <snarkster> wow that didnt work
[16:36] <dthacker> cheguevara: cool :D
[16:36] <lingard> sudo: service: command not found
[16:36] <snarkster> service smb restartThe program 'service' can be found in the following packages: * debian-helper-scripts * sysvconfigTry: apt-get install <selected package>
[16:37] <BluesKaj> smb4k isn't necessary on gutsy , samba and konq work very well together
[16:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> newuser: still with me?
[16:38] <llutz> lingard: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[16:38] <snarkster> hmm sorry i just came to kubuntu from fedora.. :( my bad
[16:39] <lingard> i came from windows :)
[16:39] <dthacker> cheguevara: wanna show me how to get that bug to upstream?
[16:39] <lingard> thats sorted the workgroup change
[16:39] <cheguevara> am thinking of the best way to do it atm
[16:39] <john> llutz: that's how I do it but its also in system settings/network now -> 7.10
[16:40] <cheguevara> 'cause just opening a bug on their bug tracker will probably get it burried
[16:40] <lingard> though i still can't access the shared files remotely
[16:40] <snarkster> lingard: yup figured it would
[16:40] <john> just fiddle something and apply
[16:40] <dthacker> cheguevara: ok, let me know, I'll be around for several hours watching tutorials
[16:40] <snarkster> lingard: you need to put your username and password there, windows security is stopping you
[16:40] <llutz> john: system-services don't have to be controlled by GUIs :) (imo)
[16:40] <lingard> i've put it in and it says login failed
[16:41] <snarkster> hmm Ive never had that problem, and I dont have a windblows machine to play with
[16:41] <lingard> tried it with the computer\user
[16:41] <lingard> do i need to add access or a username somewhere?
[16:42] <lingard> on this machine
[16:43] <newuser> i was in the pm message
[16:43] <newuser> but im here
[16:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay
[16:44] <newuser> so I cant access the mixer
[16:44] <gilles> hi, i'm having flash player problems on gutsy
[16:44] <gilles> it doesn't work with konqueror
[16:45] <Dustmop> gilles: downgrade it to a later version.
[16:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> heading back into pm to try and get alsamixer working
[16:45] <llutz> gilles: flash <9.0.48.xxx
[16:46] <Jyzygzel-> hey how do you get two displays working?
[16:46] <Jyzygzel-> was it xinerama?
[16:46] <llutz> Jyzygzel-: what video-card?
[16:46] <Jyzygzel-> ATI X800
[16:46] <jussi01> Jyzygzel-: which graphics card?
[16:46] <jussi01> heh
[16:46] <Jyzygzel-> yea right? ;P
[16:47] <jussi01> Jyzygzel-: type aticonfig into a konsole - it will give you a help thing to tell you how to use it
[16:47] <llutz> gilles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631178
[16:47] <Jyzygzel-> should i first install the newest ati drivers?
[16:48] <jussi01> Jyzygzel-: yes - use the restricted manager
[16:48] <jussi01> !ati | Jyzygzel-
[16:48] <ubotu> Jyzygzel-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:48] <jussi01> !dualhead | Jyzygzel-
[16:48] <ubotu> Jyzygzel-: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[16:49] <Jyzygzel-> good good
[16:51] <BluesKaj> gilles, konq works well on my setup , and I'm using kubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin-nonfree
[16:51] <gilles> it is installed but nothings plays
[16:51] <llutz> BluesKaj: manual installation of actual flash-version will break it
[16:52] <BluesKaj> llutz, do you mean flashplugin-nonfree or the 'extras' ?
[16:52] <newuser> Hello,,,,   Did I lose you Daisuke_Laptop
[16:52] <llutz> BluesKaj: flashplugin-nonfree
[16:53] <jussi01> !flashissues
[16:53] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is on its way
[16:53] <BluesKaj> odd llutz , that's how I got flash to work on my system on konq
[16:53] <gilles> ubotu: no flash ?
[16:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about no flash ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <llutz> BluesKaj: me too, but some time (before the broken package) ago
[16:54] <jussi01> !bot | gilles
[16:54] <ubotu> gilles: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> nope, i'm still here, going back to the pm though
[16:54] <gilles> ok
[16:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> make sure you register your nickname and identify
[16:54] <cheguevara> ok dthacker i just talked to some ppl that are using kde 4 snapshot from couple of hours ago and he said he can't reproduce the behaviour
[16:55] <cheguevara> items stay selected
[16:55] <newuser> im in pm
[16:55] <gilles> how to fix that
[16:55] <newuser> I cant register
[16:56] <dthacker> cheguevara: hmmm.  can you or the others update the bug?   I'm
[16:56] <dthacker> not going to be on KDE4 anytime soon,
[16:56] <dthacker> 'cos I'm a big chicken! :)
[16:56] <abdulla> DreadKnight, i heard something about similar katapult app for gnome what was the name Go ubunt?
[16:57] <cheguevara> dthacker, well next ubuntu release is still shipping wtih kde 4, which does make this a bug
[16:57] <DreadKnight> abdulla: GNOME Do
[16:57] <gilles> is gnash working fine ?
[16:57] <abdulla> thanks :D
[16:57] <cheguevara> another story is if anyone is actually gonna bother fixing it, since the kde 3 dolphin is not developed any more
[16:57] <dthacker> ya, I'd thought I'd confirm and see what happens.
[16:58] <DreadKnight> gilles: nope.... klash also is KDE specific..but no use to me so far :(
[16:59] <cheguevara> dolphin has a quiet high number of weir bugs that noone steps up to fix
[16:59] <DreadKnight> like.. ?
[16:59] <pastry> need help, my adept notifier keeps popping up everytime my x starts. i went to adept manager and disabled checking for updates. but whenever i restart the adept notifier always pops up as an ugly small window on the top corner of my screen, and i cant close it or minimise it
[17:00] <jhutchins_wk> pastry: You need to tell the notifier not to start on login.
[17:00] <pastry> how?
[17:01] <abdulla> DreadKnight, GnomeDo is a freeloader for torrents that what it say
[17:01] <abdulla> DreadKnight, freeloader - A nice GNOME download manager supporting torrents
[17:01] <abdulla> gnome-doc-tools - Tools, stylesheets and DTDs for GNOME.
[17:01] <DreadKnight> abdulla: wait a sec, searching for link
[17:01] <jhutchins_wk> pastry: Well, Try right clicking on it, try opening it and looking for config options, then try going in through the system menu and looking for starup programs configuration.
[17:01] <DreadKnight> abdulla: http://do.davebsd.com/
[17:02] <jhutchins_wk> pastry: Sorry I can't tell you the correct, actual method, but I'm a couple stages removed from my kubuntu box right now.
[17:02] <egonw> Riddell: thanx, very nice tutorial
[17:02] <Riddell> ** Packaging tutorial in #kubuntu-devel now
[17:02] <pastry> ok
[17:02] <DreadKnight> :)
[17:02] <egonw> Riddell: about bzr-svn
[17:02] <DreadKnight> i wonder what are we going to pack :(
[17:02] <egonw> Riddell: can I commit commits made with bzr using bzr-svn back into the SVN repos?
[17:02] <Jyzygzel-> how do i reconfigure my alsa?
[17:02] <Jyzygzel-> its not working for some reason
[17:02] <Riddell> egonw: yes, I believe so
[17:03] <Riddell> if you have commit rights of course
[17:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have to run for now, bit of an emergency
[17:03] <egonw> Riddell: ok, thanx, going to try that...
[17:03] <egonw> Riddell: git-svn allows that too, but bzr has the same syntax... lower chance of messing up :)
[17:03] <abdulla> thank you very much DreadKnight
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, have you checked 'alsamixer' in the konsole ?
[17:04] <Jyzygzel-> No mixer elems found
[17:04] <DreadKnight> abdulla: :)
[17:04] <Riddell> egonw: but unlike git, bzr is usable :)
[17:05] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, do you have a volume ctrl/speaker icon in the panel ?
[17:05] <fzydf> how can I change my window manager? kubuntu 6.06
[17:05] <brockscott> ubuntu rules!!!!!!
[17:06] <fzydf> kubuntu = ubuntu + k
[17:06] <Taggnostr> ubuntuk?
[17:06] <Jyzygzel-> BluesKaj KMix?
[17:07] <fzydf> Taggnostr: you heard me.
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, yes
[17:07] <Jyzygzel-> yes
[17:07] <fzydf> :p
[17:08] <newuser> OMG NO!!!!!
[17:08] <SudoKing> Hi, how can I change the default system sounds on Kubuntu?
[17:08] <SudoKing> !caps | newuser
[17:08] <ubotu> newuser: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:08] <newuser> My support guy has left me at the one yard line....
[17:08] <newuser> sorry
[17:08] <SudoKing> =P
[17:09] <Taggnostr> i just installed kubuntu, and it seems that some program miss. when i installed kde on ubuntu it also installed lot of programs, should i do something to add them?
[17:09] <newuser> I was working with Daisuke for over 2 hrs and we are almost done and he had to leave
[17:09] <SudoKing> how do I change the system sounds?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, check adept or synaptic whether alsa-base and alsa-utils are installed
[17:09] <newuser> can someone help me register the alsamixer that was to be the final step but i was getting an error mess.
[17:10] <Jyzygzel-> they are
[17:11] <go2dell> Riddell:  I can't thank you enough for the intro to bzr.  After your intro I'll probably be using it for almost all my (non-Kubuntu-related... woops!) projects.
[17:11] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, ok try looking for your soundcard ,in the konsole: cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:11] <newuser> Does anyone know how to register the alsamixer?
[17:12] <Riddell> go2dell: great
[17:12] <BluesKaj> newuser, one doesn't register alsamixer
[17:12] <SudoKing> :/
[17:12] <Jyzygzel-> BluesKaj i see something
[17:12] <Jyzygzel-> im not sure if its the one
[17:12] <BluesKaj> newuser , try using adept or synaptic to install it
[17:12] <Jyzygzel-> NVidia CK804
[17:12] <Jyzygzel-> NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at 0xd2003000, irq 225
[17:13] <SudoKing> anyone know how to change the system sound?
[17:13] <Jyzygzel-> i think it might be
[17:13] <Jyzygzel-> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[17:13] <Jyzygzel-> definetly its that
[17:13] <newuser> oh boy... Daisuke_laptop and I spent the last 2 hrs installing alsa 1.0.15 and he said to       /nickserv register password email
[17:13] <newuser> but then had to leave......\\
[17:13] <Riddell> mzungu: oh you can or will soon be able to host private branched on launchpad (in return for money)
[17:14] <BluesKaj> ok Jyzygzel- , sudo asoundconf set-default-card "NVidia CK804"
[17:14] <Jyzygzel-> BlueDevil are you sure that its not [CK804
[17:14] <mzungu> Riddell, lol - thanks!
[17:14] <Jyzygzel-> as the cards file said
[17:14] <newuser> we used the term
[17:15] <newuser> terminal window
[17:16] <BluesKaj> newuser,/nickserv register password email has to do with registering your nick on frenode, it has nothing to do with alsa
[17:16] <newuser> oh boy...  That was what he said to do.. I am downloadingit now...
[17:16] <k_william> Riddell: i've got a bzr/launchpad question
[17:17] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, try relogging in after making the soundcard changes
[17:17] <kiiz> hi
[17:17] <newuser> alsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device     Do I reboot after installing?
[17:17] <Jyzygzel-> as in ctrl+alt+backspace?
[17:18] <newuser> or do I need to be in a certain directory?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, yes
[17:19] <k_william> Riddell: My wireless has been dying this morning, so i missed the middle part of the bzr tutorial
[17:19] <kiiz> is it possible to run a windows vm under kubuntu and network kubuntu to use a internet connection of the vm
[17:19] <k_william> Riddell: how do you download/upload to kubuntu-tutorial?
[17:19] <Jyzygzel-> oh shi it was a trap
[17:19] <Jyzygzel-> i still had The Old ATI driver
[17:20] <Jyzygzel-> you all know what happends when you restart with that :-D
[17:20] <rwarner> goodmorning .... do the man pages get installed automatically or do i need to select them ... i'm looking for the bind man page ...
[17:20] <BluesKaj> newuser , reboot , then open adept and type alsa in the searchbar to see if it's installed or not
[17:20] <BluesKaj> or alsamixer in the konsole
[17:21] <newuser> it is in multimedia but when I click on it i get      alsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default:  No such device
[17:22] <k_william> Riddell: when I try bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kwilliam++/kubuntu-totorial/kwilliam-test-branch I get the error "Launchpad user 'william' doesn't have a registereed SSH key"
[17:23] <newuser> towards the end of Diasuke_laptop and my session   he had me remove the mods (temporarilly)
[17:23] <rwarner> .... do the man pages get installed automatically or do i need to select them ... i'm looking for the bind man page ...  tia
[17:23] <BluesKaj> newuser, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[17:24] <newuser> its all there    CANNot click apply greyed out
[17:25] <BluesKaj> newuser, on the general tab make sure all the boxes are X 'd
[17:25] <Abyssion> hi all
[17:26] <newuser> restarting sound after clicking networked sound    and it goes over and over and over
[17:26] <newuser> goes to 100 and then starts restarting sound window again and again]
[17:27] <BluesKaj> newuser, alsamixer in the konsole ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> err try
[17:28] <rwarner> is there someone who can help me with man pages?
[17:28] <newuser> sound system settings window... Im not sure what your asking
[17:28] <BluesKaj> newuser, type alsamixer in the konsole/terminal
[17:28] <bazhang> rwarner: you can read all the man pages in html on the internet
[17:28] <newuser> the restarting sound in the sound system settings window looks like it is trying to restart but continues to load to 100 over and over
[17:29] <BluesKaj> close the system settings
[17:29] <newuser> alsamixer
[17:29] <newuser> woops wrong computer let me try again on the laptop
[17:30] <llutz> !ntfs-3g
[17:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:30] <newuser> I get the same message....   alsamixer: funtion snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[17:30] <DreadKnight> limac: how old are you man?
[17:31] <limac> 12
[17:31] <DreadKnight> limac: you are a funny guy :)
[17:31] <limac> yay?
[17:31] <limac> ???
[17:31] <DreadKnight> :D
[17:31] <limac> ur serious
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ok, newuser try this in the terminal :cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:31] <newuser> wow    now there is No soundcards reported
[17:32] <newuser> before it was hda-inter
[17:32] <BluesKaj> limac, anyone who asks a persons age is under 14  :)
[17:32] <DreadKnight> ...
[17:32] <newuser> Diasuke_laptop and I had temporarily removed the mods for some reason and then he had to leave for an emergency
[17:33] <BluesKaj> DreadKnight, we don't get that personal here
[17:33] <DreadKnight> :D
[17:33] <BluesKaj> newuser, did you reboot since then ?
[17:34] <newuser> BluesKja  can we get in a private window??   yes I did
[17:34] <ubunturos> oh, I forgot! It is KubuntuTutorialDay :(
[17:35] <BluesKaj> newuser, I prefer not to PM ,it seems you and Daisuke_Laptop were in the middle of something that I have no idea about so we'd better wait for him
[17:36] <newuser> ok
[17:37] <casey_> Hello i have a few problems
[17:37] <DreadKnight> shoot
[17:37] <casey_> My sound isnt working nor is my webcam
[17:37] <limac> DreadKnight: How old r u?
[17:37] <DreadKnight> limac: going for 21
[17:37] <newuser> Is there anyone in here that knows how to configure a soundcard that was there earlier and now isnt due to removing the mod's
[17:38] <limac> man i am always the youngest, I am sick of it
[17:38] <DreadKnight> limac: :)) grow up
[17:38] <casey_> Any help would be appreciated :D
[17:38] <BluesKaj> limac, well don't feel so bad , I'm always the oldest :)
[17:38] <bazhang> !webcam
[17:38] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:38] <newuser> lspci shows its all in there
[17:38] <casey_> its a built-in chicony usb 2.0 cam
[17:39] <ubunturos> !u | limac
[17:39] <ubotu> limac: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[17:39] <limac> casey: wat kind of soundcard do u have?
[17:39] <lingard> how do i receive a stream from kaffeine via VLC on a different machine?
[17:39] <casey_> built in intel i believe
[17:39] <limac> but "u" is just a shortcut!
[17:39] <casey_> let me do a lspci
[17:39] <BluesKaj> newuser, post your lspci in pastebin , and post the URL here so we can take a look
[17:40] <DreadKnight> BluesKaj: do you wish you where under 14? :P
[17:40] <BluesKaj> nope
[17:40] <DreadKnight> were*
[17:40] <DreadKnight> :D
[17:40] <DreadKnight> yeah but that wasn't very nice
[17:41] <newuser> how is that done..  I am a New user after all     what is pastbin?
[17:41] <casey_> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m318b0fd1
[17:41] <DreadKnight> pastebin is used when you need to paste large chunks of text in a chatroom
[17:41] <DreadKnight> there are several pastebin sites
[17:41] <BluesKaj> well DreadKnight, don't ask ppl personal questions , that's impolite
[17:41] <casey_> http://pastebin.com/m318b0fd1
[17:41] <casey_> have a look at that
[17:41] <DreadKnight> so you paste into the site and then you only paste a single link in the chat
[17:42] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[17:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:42] <casey_> my pastebin works fine i hope?
[17:42] <ubunturos> newuser: you can often try Kubuntu related terms with an exclamation mark in front of it (just like BluesKaj, did) and find out.
[17:43] <ubunturos> newuser: also use a PM mode while doing so, if you intend to search for a lot of terms
[17:43] <DreadKnight> BluesKaj: careful man or I
[17:43] <DreadKnight> 'll ask for your age
[17:43] <DreadKnight> :D
[17:43] <casey_> !sound
[17:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:44] <BluesKaj> I'm not ashamed to tell you DreadKnight , all the regulars here know that I'm 64
[17:44] <casey_> my default soundcard is an "HDA Intel" according to the sound preferences
[17:45] <DreadKnight> many happy years ahead
[17:45] <DreadKnight> but i haven't been impolite to liman ;) it's more impolite to pick on somebody and call him under 14
[17:45] <DreadKnight> liman if you got offended please excuse me
[17:45] <limac> casey_ try this it SHOULD work for your sound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:45] <DreadKnight> anyway, let's wrap this up
[17:46] <limac> casey_: if anything goes wrong post it here!
[17:46] <limac> :D
[17:46] <DreadKnight> limac*
[17:46] <rwarner> anyone familiar with bind()?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> yup, saw that casey_, do a: sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard" to set your default card if need be.
[17:47] <limac> casey_: and remember to change the .14 of the alsa (lib, utils, driver) to .15! :)
[17:47] <ScorpKing> rwarner: for DNS?
[17:47] <limac> DreadKnight: hey DUDE (hopefully)
[17:47] <casey_> im trying
[17:48] <rwarner> Scorpking for doing UDP
[17:48] <DreadKnight> limac: yes, dude ^^
[17:48] <Taggnostr> when i installed kde on ubuntu a lot of nice program were installed, now i installed kubuntu and i can't find all these programs, where can i find them?
[17:48] <ScorpKing> ah ok. nvm
[17:48] <rwarner> kk
[17:49] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: i think you kept "gnome-desktop
[17:49] <DreadKnight> " meta package
[17:49] <casey_> im confused :D
[17:49] <abdulla> DreadKnight, my gnome Ubuntu desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_37eda7e.png&srv=img34
[17:49] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: gnome/gtk packages run slower under kde/kubuntu
[17:50] <newz> hi@all
[17:50] <Taggnostr> what should i do to have those programs back?
[17:50] <DreadKnight> abdulla: chaotic xD
[17:50] <Taggnostr> i installed kubuntu for my father, he'd like to have something to play with
[17:51] <abdulla> hehe
[17:51] <abdulla> and heres my relaxing background http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktop2m_2a9e7c4.png&srv=img33
[17:51] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: i don't recommend you to get them back, kde/kubuntu has a set of nice programms by default, gnome/ubuntu has another set of specific applications by default
[17:51] <xaka> anybody work with proxychains?
[17:52] <casey_> whats the newest alsa
[17:52] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: but if you are running kubuntu ... install the gnome desktop applications, fire this up in the konsole: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:52] <Taggnostr> iirc the nice programs i'm talking about came with kde
[17:53] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:53] <DreadKnight> my bad
[17:53] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: or just fire add/remove programs from the K menu and install your desired applications ;)
[17:54] <Taggnostr> with gnome i had just a few games, when i installed kde i had 5-6 category of games and each category has 5-6 games, are these programs part of ubuntu-desktop or kde or what?
[17:54] <Taggnostr> also lot of them starts with K
[17:55] <Dustmop> sudo apt-get install kdegames
[17:55] <Taggnostr> ok
[17:55] <Taggnostr> so i should reinstall those packages
[17:55] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: ubuntu-desktop (which are gnome applications i don't recommend having under kde, but kde4 (11 january - release date) will also have games
[17:56] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: probably the kdegames are different from the gnome ones, not sure
[17:57] <DreadKnight> abdulla: what's that vector image on your desktop? tha one with the moon? can you email it to me? ^^
[17:57] <Taggnostr> on kde+ubuntu i also have categories like edutainment, games, graphics and so on
[17:57] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: it's kubuntu or ubuntu? :P
[17:58] <casey_> this isnt working gah
[17:58] <Taggnostr> ubuntu, but i installed kde and i get all these programs with names starting with K
[17:58] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: (k)ubuntu is not windows, well most linux distros have nicely arranged start menus
[17:58] <DreadKnight> you kinda made it messy xD
[17:58] <DreadKnight> oh well
[17:58] <Taggnostr> so if kubuntu use kde there should be all these "K" programs, isn't it?
[17:59] <DreadKnight> yes, but it;s not nice to install kde on ubuntu, just install the kubuntu distro which uses kde
[17:59] <Taggnostr> XD
[17:59] <DreadKnight> because you get both packages... the gnome and the kde ones.. and it's a total mess
[17:59] <Taggnostr> is what i did, but i don't have those programs
[18:00] <DreadKnight> hmm :)
[18:00] <Riddell> ** Get your work into Kubuntu tutorial starting now in #kubuntu-devel
[18:00] <Taggnostr> or maybe they are hide somewhere else :P
[18:00] <DreadKnight> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[18:01] <kiiz> guys, which is a better vm for kubunt.qemu or virtual box
[18:01] <casey_> ALSA modules were successfully compiled.
[18:01] <ricercia> ok i'm still having problems compiling my deb files
[18:02] <casey_> whats this mean
[18:02] <ricercia> from the last tutorial on  #kubuntu-devel
[18:02] <ricercia> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2701/
[18:02] <casey_> WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!!
[18:02] <casey_> You would use some ALSA or OSS mixer to set the appropriate volume.
[18:02] <Taggnostr> here i have ubuntu+kde3.5 and i've all these programs divided in categories such as development, edutainment, games, graphics etc., on my new kubuntu machine i don't have those
[18:02] <DreadKnight> kiiz: virtual box freezez for me at some point :( haven't tried qemu yet
[18:02] <Norgur> deb files are already compiled Oo
[18:02] <DreadKnight> kiiz: is kubunt.qemu a qt GUI for qemu?
[18:03] <Taggnostr> i'm going to the other machine to check if these programs are hidden somewhere
[18:03] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: you don't have any categories at all on kubuntu?
[18:04] <apachelogger> ricercia: rm -rf debian-tem.tar.gz
[18:04] <ricercia> g2g - i will ask my deb question l8r :-D
[18:04] <ricercia> o thanks - i can spare a minute
[18:05] <ricercia> still no joy
[18:05] <apachelogger> ricercia: whats the error?
[18:05] <ricercia> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2702/
[18:05] <kiiz> DreadKnight : typo error.should be" which is a better vm for kubuntu,qemu or virtual box"
[18:05] <Ryiel> Srrrrááááááááááááááácccccccccoooooooooooookkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!! Megvannak a képek az ubuntus targoncáról!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:05] <Ryiel> :D
[18:05] <Ryiel> oopc
[18:05] <apachelogger> ricercia: mv kraft_0.20.orig.tar.gz ../
[18:05] <Ryiel> wrong channel
[18:05] <Ryiel> :D
[18:05] <Ryiel> sorry
[18:05] <apachelogger> Ryiel: lol
[18:06] <Ryiel> It happens sometimes :D
[18:06] <DreadKnight> kiiz: well, practicaly qemu, because it doesn't have a GUI so it takes less memory, but virtual box uses qemu too, it's actually a GUI for qemu ;)
[18:06] <Ryiel> These damned tabs are so close to each other :D
[18:06] <casey_> now that ive updated alsa i reboot?
[18:06] <ricercia> more errors :-( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2703/
[18:07] <apachelogger> ricercia: you didn't retar the tarball properly
[18:07] <casey_> do i reboot now that ive updated alsa?
[18:07] <DreadKnight> kiiz: theoretically* better to say
[18:07] <ricercia> ok - sorry i'm not very goo with tars - wat do i hav to type?
[18:08] <ricercia> *good
[18:08] <apachelogger> ricercia: wget again - bunzip2 kraft*bz2; gzip kraft*tar; mv kraft; mv kraft-0.20.tar.gz kraft_0.20.orig.tar.gz
[18:08] <ricercia> CHEERS
[18:08] <casey_> do i need to reboot or not
[18:08] <matthias> Riddell: do you think it's a good idea to put /etc under control of bzr?
[18:08] <ScorpKing> !kopete
[18:08] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[18:09] <ScorpKing> ugh. where can i find the latest kopete patches and updates? kopete.kde.org looks a bit old
[18:11] <stdin> ScorpKing: svn is always the latest
[18:11] <casey_> now that ive installed the latest alsa for my intel card, i reboot and what else
[18:11] <ScorpKing> ty stdin. thought so
[18:11] <DreadKnight> ScorpKing: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Kopete
[18:12] <casey_> ?
[18:12] <abdulla> DreadKnight, the moon?
[18:13] <ScorpKing> thanks DreadKnight
[18:13] <abdulla> DreadKnight, you mean which image ? the one that has Debian logo down or the Clouds?
[18:14] <ricercia> g2g thanks for help so far apachelogger - will hav 2 do more l8r
[18:15] <DreadKnight> abdulla: up... it's a grey vector image on your desktop, with a moon in the upper right corner
[18:15] <abdulla> yes you mean the icon DreadKnight its a pic of a mosque , thats how muslim mosque logo is
[18:15] <DreadKnight> abdulla: i think so :) yeah...
[18:16] <DreadKnight> abdulla: you made it?
[18:16] <abdulla> no i got it from google
[18:16] <DreadKnight> abdulla: link? :D
[18:16] <abdulla> 1second im backtracking my searches =p
[18:16] <DreadKnight> xD
[18:17] <Riddell> matthias: yes, putting /etc under bzr is a great idea especially for servers
[18:17] <abdulla> i dunno if its my network that is slow tonight or google itself
[18:17] <newuser> O.K.   I finally got a handle on the pastebin thing and have included all that remains of our private mess as to what it was we did.. I have to leave for about an hour if any of you brave soals want to tackle this problem I would greatly appreciate it and Merry Christmas    http://pastebin.com/d6ff3e414
[18:18] <newuser> thx and be back in a bit
[18:18] <abdulla> DreadKnight, theyr is this http://www.oman3d.com/tutorials/photoshop/mosque_draw/final.jpg and this http://www.oman3d.com/tutorials/photoshop/mosque_draw/7.jpg
[18:19] <abdulla> brb doorbell
[18:19] <DreadKnight> abdulla: the first one xD yey . thanks man
[18:21] <limac> casey_: srry i went for lunch, and yes you reboot
 Taggnostr: you don't have any categories at all on kubuntu? <- yes, i've system, settings, office, multimedia, internet and graphics
[18:29] <Taggnostr> btw i did add/remove programs
[18:29] <Riddell> limac: we can help you get your .deb after the tutorials (in an hour)
[18:29] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: you will never have an empty category ;) so if you install a game, the games category will appears for example
[18:30] <Taggnostr> i selected a game and it checked automatically several others games, i did install, but while installing i got an error
[18:30] <smcintyre> !printer
[18:30] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[18:30] <limac> Riddell: sure thing DUDE!
[18:30] <limac> !sound
[18:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:30] <Jyzygzel-> how do i get the system to recognize my mouse button?
[18:30] <Jyzygzel-> thumb button
[18:30] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: what error?
[18:30] <smcintyre> !hp
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:31] <smcintyre> Can Someone help me install a network printer?
[18:31] <smcintyre>  HP laserjet 2430
[18:31] <Dr_willis> Jyzygzel-,  It may take some manual tweaking of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[18:31] <Taggnostr> i reboot and now i've the game category with some games, but it seems that several games miss. if i try to open add/remove programs it says that someone else is using aptititude and i can't add the missing games
[18:31] <llutz> smcintyre: use browser - localhost:631 - add new printer, device = socket://printer.ip.address
[18:31] <Taggnostr> DreadKnight, something like a damaged package
[18:31] <Dr_willis> You may want to check the ubuntu forums for mouse setting. i often find the gentoo wiki pages good for the various mouse setting-up. But gentoo is quite a bit different from ubuntu.
[18:32] <Jyzygzel-> Dr_willis ic
[18:32] <smcintyre> llutz: sorry again?
[18:32] <Jyzygzel-> well makes me wonder what do i need to tweak there
[18:32] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: not good :\
[18:32] <limac> Riddell: Srry if i am bothering you guys with my questions, you see i am kinda 12 and just recently (couple of months ago) started using Linux (Ubuntu and Kubuntu) so i am only familiar with the basics! HIHIHI
[18:32] <dameouse> halp my kitty ran away!
[18:32] <Dr_willis> my network printer uses ipp://somthing:someport :) sicne its a HP directjet i think
[18:32] <limac> :D
[18:32] <Dr_willis> with linux it pays to learn the core fundamentals. :)
[18:32] <llutz> jetdirect is socket://ip-addr  too
[18:32] <Taggnostr> after the error it sayd that the installation was ok
[18:32] <Dr_willis> whats ipp: then?
[18:32] <smcintyre> llutz: which socket?
[18:33] <Dr_willis> I always have to try one then the other.. heh.
[18:33] <DreadKnight> Taggnostr: but nothing got installed?
[18:33] <llutz> Dr_willis: different protocol
[18:33] <Taggnostr> it seems that when it found the damaged package it stopped the installation of the other games and quit
[18:33] <Dr_willis> I think my printserver can do them all. so i try them untill one works.
[18:33] <llutz> smcintyre: thats the device-name you have to use
[18:33] <Taggnostr> it just installed a few games
[18:33] <smcintyre> llutz: Literally socket:// or do I have to know which socket it is?
[18:34] <Taggnostr> about 1/3 of the games i think
[18:34] <llutz> socket://ip-addr  too
[18:34] <smcintyre> llutz: it's asking for a password
[18:34] <llutz> smcintyre: you need the printers ip-address
[18:34] <smcintyre> that's the sudo passwd
[18:34] <smcintyre>  I have that
[18:34] <Taggnostr> i also had that error while updating the system :\
[18:35] <drudgry> is there an irc where I can go swear, rant and rave for a minute or so, eg.. vent?
[18:35] <Taggnostr> and it sayd again that the installation is ok and now it says that there are no update available
[18:35] <smcintyre> !ot | drudgry
[18:35] <ubotu> drudgry: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:35] <abdulla> DreadKnight, you very welcome brother
[18:35] <abdulla> your*
[18:35] <DreadKnight> thanks :D
[18:36] <Taggnostr> what should i do if the packages are damaged?
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Taggnostr,  i wouls start with a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' first
[18:37] <kiiz> i have trouble use adept to install from cd. it say cannot mount drive.what wrong how do i get around this
[18:37] <Taggnostr> ok, and if the aptitude is used by something else? i got this error while i was trying to open add/remove programs
[18:38] <Dr_willis> only ONE program that is using the package managing (apt) system can be running at a time
[18:38] <Taggnostr> i know
[18:38] <Dr_willis> close out all package manager tools. and only use one. :O If theres a stale lock.. then...
[18:38] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[18:38] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:39] <Taggnostr> i started the add/remove programs after a reboot and i got that error again
[18:39] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: also there is a point in developers not to maintain the packages
[18:39] <Dr_willis> kiiz,  if you remove/reinsrt the cd. does it pop up a dialog to view the contents?
[18:39] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: usually a distro maintainer knows better anway, plus it reduces work
[18:39] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: so every app should just have a packaging squad ;-)
[18:40] <kiiz> Dr_willis: yes it does
[18:40] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: well, i filed lots of bugs with the "upgrade" tag on launchpad... lazy packaging squads they are
[18:40] <Dr_willis> kiiz,  then it should be mounted.. thats an odd error. Of course any packagtes on the cd. may be a bit out of date now. Its best to just let apt download them from the internet.
[18:41] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: get in contact with the actual package maintainer
[18:41] <nareshov> stdin: this line "Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm" doesn't work for me
[18:41] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: if he doesn't want to maintain it anymore you/he might as well as for a new maintainer
[18:42] <stdin> nareshov: "doesn't work" means nothing, what exactly doesn't work and what happens when you try?
[18:42] <nareshov> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1
[18:42] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: i got many cases where a new version of the software was released, no new dependencyes, only bug fixes, for example GIMP, blender, pidgin...
[18:42] <DreadKnight> GIMP was cought as a RC1 on the 7.10 cd, that's not very professional...
[18:42] <stdin> nareshov: does Xephyr open?
[18:43] <apachelogger> Oo
[18:43] <apachelogger> well
[18:43] <nareshov> woah! it doesn't anymore
[18:43] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: the thing about rcs is that they should be a final
[18:43] <apachelogger> only if certain quirks appear another rc should have to be released
[18:43] <apachelogger> unlike kde does currently -.-
[18:43] <stdin> nareshov: well first do "export DISPLAY=:0" then try
[18:43] <nareshov> k
[18:43] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: gimp 2.4.2 released now.. not included... tons of bugs fixed since 2.4 rc1
[18:44] <root__> e
[18:44] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: well, there is a policy about adding new software to released repositories
[18:45] <apachelogger> updates only goes ubuntu-updates and big changes like gimp 2.4.2 would only go -backports IMO
[18:45] <DreadKnight> hmm, that's what the motu said, but haven't actually done
[18:46] <casey_> omg i have sound now
[18:46] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: so don't whine about it :P
[18:46] <casey_> but my volume slider doesnt control it i dont think
[18:46] <casey_> how do i control my volume
[18:46] <Dr_willis> It may be set to the wrong channel Casey
[18:46] <Dr_willis> oops casey_  :)
[18:46] <casey_> idk hold on
[18:46] <DreadKnight> no good reason not to include more stable software >_< ... windoze has like 200mb of daily updates...
[18:47] <casey_> god i had vista on this laptop but it sucked and i moved to ubuntu :P
[18:47] <DreadKnight> more stable & secure*
[18:47] <Dr_willis> DreadKnight,  its a never ending cycle.. and the ubuntu guys to do updates every 6 mo. Thats just how they do it. I doubt if you are going to change their minds.. and their reasons are on the forums I belive.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> of course there is the backports and unofficial repos. :)
[18:48] <Ryiel> Guys!!!!!!! Check this out: it's in hungarian but i can translate it for you if you need it! The Kubuntu Forklifter!!! http://tejbegrizzly.blog.com
[18:48] <apachelogger> Dr_willis: and updates
[18:48] <casey_> someone send me a link to an mp3 file for testing purposes
[18:48] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: the thing is, especially big releases can break compability and stuff
[18:48] <DreadKnight> :\
[18:49] <stdin> !offtopic  | Ryiel
[18:49] <ubotu> Ryiel: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:49] <Ryiel> oh, sorry
[18:49] <limac> so Riddell, when can u feed me the the tutorial about "how to creat .deb packages"? btw: thnx a lot :)
[18:50] <Dr_willis> casey_,   http://cdn.muzic.com/uploads/mp3s/b/blindlemonjefferson-SeeThatMyGraveisKeptClean.mp3
[18:50] <Dr_willis> Gotta love PD Mp3's
[18:50] <nareshov> stdin: the only kde4 app that works for me from the ppa repo is konsole4 :|
[18:50] <kyled185> I'm trying to get into developing some qt4 apps with the eclipse plugins provided by trolltech, but when I try to create a project it tells me that "source folder must exist".  Anyone here have experience with this?
[18:50] <nareshov> (amd64 here)
[18:50] <apachelogger> limac: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/kubuntu-pkg-talk
[18:51] <stdin> nareshov: try logging in to a full session from KDM
[18:51] <nareshov> okay
[18:52] <nareshov> stdin: KDM showed up in a second or two :\
[18:53] <noname> hello
[18:53] <noname> anyone can help me where i acn find codec or whats its name for wma? amarok cannot play it
[18:53] <stdin> nareshov: can you post the first few lines of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde to pastebin please
[18:54] <Dr_willis> Ick. :) it may depend on the specific codec used by the wma file.
[18:54] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[18:54] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[18:54] <Dr_willis> Installing the w32codecs package 'should' get it to play. Unless its drm'ed or some very weird codec
[18:54] <TameLion> Hi all
[18:55] <casey_> i cant get frostwire to open
[18:55] <nareshov> stdin: can't open some config file
[18:55] <nareshov> let me get the path
[18:55] <Dr_willis> casey_,  runing it from a terminal and see if theres any error messages? frostwire does need the actual sun java also - installed.
[18:56] <TameLion> I'm having a problem with dpkg, I think with dbus: it says /etc/dbus-1/system.conf : no such file or directory
[18:56] <noname> hm where i can find that w32 codecs?
[18:56] <limac> apachelogger: thx and can u also give me a link to dholbach's tutorial?
[18:56] <nareshov> stdin: can't open /home/nareshov/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig
[18:56] <TameLion> and aptitude won't let me re-install
[18:57] <limac> i kinda couldn't catch up with it!
[18:57] <apachelogger> limac: you might ask daniel, though there is always irclogs.ubuntu.com
[18:57] <stdin> nareshov: ok, just "cp ~/.kde/share/config/startupconfig ~/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig" and try again
[18:57] <nareshov> okay
[18:57] <limac> apachelogger: sure thing
[18:58] <seva_> а что вообще делают в irc?
[18:58] <kingzar> Does anyone know how i can change my backspace button into " go back" on webpages?
[18:58] <kingzar> somehow it changed
[18:58] <stdin> !ru | seva_
[18:58] <ubotu> seva_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[18:58] <casey_> i do have ajava installed
[18:58] <drudgry> ok so I set up my windows box with a folder / desktop share
[18:58] <TameLion> I was trying to get the svn of kdesupport, kdelibs and kdepimlibs working before it borked
[18:59] <casey_> how do i run it from the console
[18:59] <drudgry> i go set up Add a network folder and then what.. WebFolder?
[19:00] <limac> apachelogger: whos daniel?
[19:01] <adamonline45> mine
[19:02] <apachelogger> limac: dholbach :P
[19:02] <limac> ah!
[19:02] <cheguevara> seva_, rasgovarivaut? :P
[19:03] <seva_> что?
[19:04] <cheguevara> seva_, na irce rasgovarivaut...
[19:04] <tdn> Does anyone have the time to help me get IrDA to work on my IBM Thinkpad T42?
[19:08] <casey_> frostwire now opens
[19:10] <kingzar> hmm goes i have that mac panel fxied on top of my desktop
[19:10] <kingzar> how do i get rid of it?
[19:10] <kingzar> i forgot where thee option is
[19:11] <casey_> frostwire is just sitting there saying "Starting Connection"
[19:12] <casey_> any help?
[19:13] <casey_> all it says is "Starting Connection"
[19:13] <casey_> oh it just quit
[19:21] <king_> anyone familiar with avant?
[19:21] <DreadKnight> awn ?
[19:21] <king_> yes
[19:21] <DreadKnight> what's the problem?
[19:22] <king_> how do i edit it?
[19:22] <king_> because if i right click preference it.. it does nothing
[19:22] <DreadKnight> running ubuntu?
[19:22] <DreadKnight> well, it has an "application" to configure
[19:23] <DreadKnight> it's kinda hard to click click / preference
[19:23] <king_> ok
[19:23] <king_> ah i found it! it's in system
[19:23] <kyled185> it's called awn-manager
[19:23] <king_> yes indeed thanks
[19:23] <king_> and 1 thing that has been bugging me with compiz fusion, i cannot get it to NOT focus..
[19:24] <DreadKnight> :)
[19:24] <king_> right now everytime i click on a screen, the active one doesn't go behind
[19:24] <king_> do you know a solution for that?
[19:24] <adamonline45> king_: If you click the title bar does it change?
[19:26] <king_> yes it does
[19:26] <king_> only if i click the title
[19:26] <king_> which is a pain
[19:26] <adamonline45> king_: I feel you.  I wish I knew how to change that :)
[19:26] <king_> whahaha
[19:26] <king_> thanks :)
[19:27] <adamonline45> well, lessee...
[19:27] <king_> do you have the problem that everytime you press any of those focus optiones
[19:27] <king_> it goes away
[19:27] <king_> it doesn't allow me to put a cross in the box
[19:29] <adamonline45> king_: That's exactly what happens to me
[19:29] <king_> grrrrrrrrrrr
[19:29] <king_> :P
[19:29] <adamonline45> hehe
[19:30] <king_> another thing i'm trying to do is get rid of the mac bar up top
[19:30] <king_> :S
[19:31] <kiiz> a sugested and recommended dependencies need for a package to work
[19:31] <king_> Halleluja ! found it
[19:31] <king_> i'm too good :P
[19:31] <adamonline45> where where where?
[19:32] <king_> erm desktop config>behavior> 3options none/desktop menu/blabla mac menu
[19:32] <king_> my awm manager isn't working
[19:32] <kiiz> are  suggested and recommended dependencies needed for a package to work
[19:33] <adamonline45> dunno what you mean by mac bar...  I have a problem where my taskbar icons that represent system stuff - KBluetooth, Power Manager, etc. keep getting their own little windows on the desktop... Annoying 8)
[19:33] <king_> ?! what do you mean
[19:33] <king_> their own little window? like a preview?
[19:34] <adamonline45> king_: not a preview; a whole window!  They should just be an icon in the little applet, but they end up being a little eliptical window with a taskbar button...  Totally cluttering my taskbar space...
[19:35] <lingard> how do i open a port on kubuntu?
[19:35] <king_> i want my dock to be smaller :(
[19:36] <king_> it's too big right now
[19:36] <adamonline45> king_: Dang, I've got to go to school! :O  Damn computers... always do this to me 8)
[19:36] <lingard> dip it in cold water ;)
[19:36] <bmk789> how do i install grub from the liveCD with the configuration from my HD install?
[19:36] <adamonline45> I'll see if you're on later... Peace!
[19:36] <king_> bye
[19:38] <lingard> how do i open a port on kubuntu?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> bmk789, did you install windows as well ?
[19:39] <llutz> lingard: a port for what?
[19:39] <bmk789> BluesKaj: nope, should i just chroot into my install and run grub-install?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> bmk789, you mean you have no grub menu at boot up ?
[19:40] <bmk789> i get a grub read error
[19:40] <lingard> kaffeine
[19:40] <lingard> to broadcast
[19:41] <llutz> lingard: no need to "open" a port if you haven't blocked them with iptables
[19:41] <bmk789> wait nvm, cant chroot into 64 bit from 32
[19:41] <lingard> hmm...
[19:42] <lingard> i'm unable to access a broadcast via vlc on another machine on the network
[19:42] <picharras> hola gente
[19:42] <king_> Hahaha poor adam i just fixed the mouse raise focus thingy
[19:42] <king_> oh well
[19:43] <picharras> alguien me dice cual es el canal de ubuntu en españl?
[19:43] <picharras> ...español
[19:43] <Chousuke> !es
[19:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:44] <lingard> no hablo español
[19:44] <BluesKaj> bmk789, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst then make sure the "hiddenmenu" is commented out #, but I suggest you post it in pastebin so we can examine it
[19:45] <alumno> buenas
[19:46] <king_> buenas
[19:46] <king_> q tal
[19:46] <alumno> aqui kubunteando
[19:46] <king_> tu tambien ;)
[19:48] <king_> does anyone know if you can get a NTFS harddisk working on ubuntu?
[19:48] <king_> it's my data disk of windows
[19:48] <odilederay> speak french ?
[19:48] <odilederay> !french
[19:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:48] <odilederay> thx
[19:48] <odilederay> ubotu = BOT
[19:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:49] <BluesKaj> !ntfs king_
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs king_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <BluesKaj> !ntfs
[19:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:49] <king_> that helps :P
[19:52] <DexterF> hi
[19:52] <DexterF> !java
[19:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[19:53] <FrauHansen> any streaming media experts present?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> FrauHansen, serving or receiving ?
[19:54] <FrauHansen> i'd like to stream music to multiple PC's (LAN) so that they can play the stream simultaniously
[19:55] <FrauHansen> i think RTSP-protocol supports this
[19:55] <king_> backspace buttion fixed woohoo
[19:56] <BluesKaj> !streaming | FrauHansen
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streaming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <FrauHansen> I kinda got it working using vlc, but the problem was that i couldn not alter the playlist once the streaming was active
[19:56] <BluesKaj> !info streaming
[19:56] <ubotu> Package streaming does not exist in gutsy
[19:57] <lingard> how did you get streaming working on VLC?
[19:57] <lingard> i'm trying to stream a kaffeine broadcast
[19:57] <excitatory> so, i really haven't kept up on this for a few years, but if i have a bunch of video files (mpeg, avi, and others) is possible these days to painlessly (read: no re-encoding) burn these files to a cd-r or dvd-r for use in a DVD player?  (my dvd player plays vcd, svcd, and more)
[19:57] <king_> anyone know a good place to get widgets? i wanna get clock/calender/notepad things..
[19:58] <CoCaInE> i installed vmware-server-console ,finished it with success but now when i type vmware in console it says its wrong command
[19:58] <excitatory> king_: did you try kde-apps.org?  also look into superkaramba and screenlets
[19:59] <FrauHansen> lingard: using the VLC streaming wizzard (ctrl-w) ... i only tested with mp3 and avi stream
[19:59] <BluesKaj> excitatory, it depends how new your DVD player is and if it can play DIVX ,XVID , those are the primary avi files out on the net
[19:59] <king_> thank you
[19:59] <lingard> using windows on the client?
[19:59] <FrauHansen> lingard: ...and multicast.
[20:00] <FrauHansen> i stumbled upon ampache today, but i'm not shure if it supports synchronous streaming
[20:01] <mrukus> how do i pull up the restricted drivers screen iwth kubuntu
[20:01] <jussi01> mrukus: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted drivers
[20:01] <lingard> FrauHansen: do you have a TV card installed on your machine?
[20:02] <FrauHansen> nope
[20:02] <excitatory> BluesKaj: yea, i don't think it plays those.. so i guess i'm to look at re-encoding..huh?
[20:02] <lingard> i'm trying to stream a tv broadcast using kaffeine
[20:02] <mrukus> i thought so too
[20:02] <mrukus> but there is no option for restricted drivers
[20:02] <lingard> but the client doesn't want to connect
[20:03] <Riddell> Tutorials Day logs at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[20:03]  * jussi01 hus Riddell :D
[20:03] <jussi01> hugs*
[20:03] <FrauHansen> lingard: i once read a guide for broadcasting tv over lan using vlc.
[20:03] <jussi01> mrukus: hmm, which version of kubuntu?
[20:03] <mrukus> theres only dixk and filesystems, system services, login manager, windows applications audio encoding kde resources service manager and session manager
[20:03] <mrukus> fiesty fawn
[20:04] <jussi01> mrukus: ahhh
[20:04] <jussi01> mrukus: one moment please
[20:04] <pteague_work> anybody know of a good svn gui?
[20:04] <jussi01> pteague_work: rapidsvn
[20:04] <pteague_work> jussi01> k, what do you suggest for it's programs?
[20:05] <pteague_work> it wants a file explorer & diff tool
[20:05] <jussi01> pteague_work: ?
[20:05] <jussi01> pteague_work: you can also get a quite nice svn tool in eclipse
[20:06] <pteague_work> yeah, normally i'd probably use that, but some idiot put this website together & i crashed eclipse twice yesterday
[20:07] <jussi01> mrukus: Im not sure of the package name - but you need to install the restricted manaer in feisrty
[20:07] <mrukus> hows it going jussi01?
[20:07] <pteague_work> 10k+ php files in 1 directory & all they are are a single line setting a variable or 2 & including another file...
[20:07] <casey_> frostwire still hasnt connected
[20:07] <jussi01> pteague_work: any reason not to just check it out from the command line?
[20:08] <pteague_work> was hoping to see the entire file.. wonder if kdiff3 would work
[20:08] <jussi01> mrukus: it _may_ be restricted-manaer, but that could also only be the gnome one
[20:09] <mrukus> that is the one that i just reinstalled
[20:09] <jussi01> mrukus: what are you tryin to do with it?
[20:09] <mrukus> i need to disable the restriced driver for my wireless card
[20:10] <jussi01> mrukus: ahh...
[20:10] <jussi01> !wireless
[20:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:10] <jussi01> have you looked there?
[20:10] <mrukus> a couple times, my computer just really doesn't like both linux and wireless
[20:11] <mrukus> my chipset is the ONLY chipset that kubuntu doesn't support
[20:11] <mrukus> the only antheros
[20:11] <mrukus> how can i go abotu doing this then "First, I deactivated Atheros from Restricted Modules."
[20:12] <jussi01> mrukus: have you considered upgradin to gutsy?
[20:12] <casey_> can xchat display the current song you are playing to the chat
[20:13] <mrukus> i did a couple weeks ago
[20:13] <mrukus> was running into all shorts of issues
[20:13] <mrukus> so i am doing a fresh install
[20:13] <jussi01> casey_: yes, but you need to get a script. google for them.
[20:13] <jussi01> mrukus: ok
[20:14] <mrukus> i was trying to do a fresh install with kubuntu gutsy actually
[20:14] <casey_> i didnt know if they made scripts for xchat, thanks.
[20:14] <mrukus> i couldn't get t elive cd to work
[20:14] <jussi01> casey_: why are you using xchat?
[20:14] <casey_> i do not know, whats better?
[20:14] <mrukus> so i started with ubuntu fiesty
[20:14] <jussi01> casey_: konversation has one built in
[20:14] <casey_> xchat came installed on here
[20:14] <casey_> oh ok
[20:14] <jussi01> casey_: are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[20:15] <casey_> kubuntu i believe, thats what it says when it loads linux
[20:15] <jussi01> casey_: on konversation just type: /media
[20:17] <jussi01> mrukus: it looks like there isnt one for kubuntu feisty. sorry
[20:17] <mib> hello @ all, can smoebody help me, i dont know were to put new single icons (no icon themes!) i've copied them into /usr/share/pixmaps but when i want to add a icon the new ones arent there
[20:17] <casey_> ok brb
[20:17] <casey_> yay it works
[20:17] <casey_> ok do i need to open a player for /media to work
[20:17] <jussi01> casey_: great :D
[20:18] <jussi01> casey_: you need to have somethin playing of course...
[20:18] <mib> i need a general place where i can put new icon (*.png)
[20:19] <casey_> what players are supported
[20:19] <jussi01> casey_: amarok as far as I know
[20:19] <mib> ok sry, i've found it
[20:20] <casey_> shit
[20:20] <jussi01> !language | casey_
[20:20] <ubotu> casey_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:20] <casey_> my volume slider on my laptop doesnt work, how do i get it to work
[20:20] <casey_> sorry, but my volume is at max and i do not know how to fix it
[20:20] <jussi01> casey_: the hardware one?
[20:21] <jussi01> or software?
[20:21] <casey_> yes, on my laptop, the volume slider on the laptop
[20:21] <king_> Hmm can anyone tell me something about this plugin
[20:21] <casey_> it shows on ubuntu thats its going up and down but its not
[20:21] <king_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572019 <-- is this functional in kubuntu aswell?
[20:21] <king_> because it tells you to download something with gnome in it
[20:22] <jussi01> casey_: right click on the volume applet in the task bar, choose select master channel and choose PCM
[20:22] <mrukus> if i log in under a gnome session, and disable the restricted driver, would that carry on over to my kde session
[20:23] <jussi01> mrukus: I think so.
[20:23] <mrukus> sweet, ill try that
[20:24] <jussi01> mrukus: please understand that im not certain.
[20:24] <king_> hope it doesn't mess my ubuntu up
[20:24] <casey_> no that didnt work
[20:24] <king_> i got kde, and i'm gonna try gnome
[20:24] <king_> plugin
[20:24] <king_> :P
[20:25] <jussi01> casey_: what sound card is it?
[20:26] <casey_> its an intel, i just got it updated
[20:26] <jussi01> casey_: intel hda?
[20:27] <casey_> uhhh
[20:27] <jussi01> casey_: try some of the other options in the mixer
[20:27] <jussi01> play around with the volumes
[20:27] <lingard> can you use hardware in wine?
[20:28] <lingard> for me it doesn't seem to detect it
[20:28] <jussi01> lingard: only if it work on linux also
[20:29] <casey_> hda intel
[20:29] <jussi01> !intelhda | casey_:
[20:29] <ubotu> casey_:: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:29] <casey_> i already did that
[20:29] <casey_> someone said it might be on the wrong channel?
[20:30] <jussi01> casey_: are you on konversation now?
[20:30] <casey_> yes
[20:31] <jussi01> casey_: Im not sure where to go from here - you followed the guide the bot just gave?
[20:32] <casey_> yeah a bit earlier and i actually got sound working
[20:33] <limac> would u guys suggest running kubuntu on a desktop or on a laptop
[20:33] <limac> ?
[20:33] <limac> :?
[20:33] <jussi01> casey_: ok, so go to menu -> multimedia -> kmix and play with the volumes
[20:33] <jussi01> limac: either is fine
[20:33] <limac> like for more stability
[20:33] <jussi01> limac: no difference.
[20:34] <casey_> ok hold
[20:34] <limac> casey_: did u overcome that sound problem of yours yet?
[20:34] <jussi01> casey_: you can also try typing: alsamixer into konsole to get more options
[20:35] <casey_> ok alsamixer is up
[20:35] <casey_> yes i have sound now limac
[20:35] <casey_> but my volume is f*ck3d
[20:35] <limac> good, did that tutotrial work?
[20:36] <jussi01> casey, try adjustin various volume to see what exactly controls your card. usually pcm does it
[20:36] <casey_> i want the volume slider on the laptop to work lol
[20:36] <kiiz> please can anyone give me a hint on linux noetorking. i am try to get kubuntu to use an internet connection on a windows box
[20:36] <jussi01> casey_: lets leave the swear words out - even with the  *'s :)
[20:36] <limac> casey_: check the front too
[20:37] <casey_> ok guys
[20:37] <limac> kiiz: describe ur problem
[20:37] <casey_> my volume slider is set to "Headphone"
[20:38] <casey_> so it does nothing
[20:38] <jussi01> kiiz: this thread may help :D
[20:38] <jussi01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547925
[20:38] <jussi01> casey_: so try setting it to pcm
[20:39] <casey_> how do i do that
[20:39] <limac> kiiz: is wired connection working on your system?
[20:39] <jussi01> casey_: as I described earlier.  right click on the volume in the taskbar -> select master channel -> PCM
[20:40] <casey_> i dont see "select master channel"
[20:40] <jussi01> what do you see?
[20:40] <casey_> i can hit preferences to select a device
[20:40] <king_> anyone know why i cannot put this command
[20:40] <king_> gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[20:40] <king_> ?
[20:40] <casey_> headphone, pcm, front
[20:40] <casey_> front mic boost
[20:40] <jussi01> casey_: select pcm
[20:40] <limac> casey_: right click on the megaphone sort of icon on the bottom right hand side of the screen.
[20:41] <king_> avant manager asked to put this command in alt + f2 : gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", but it says i cannot run this command
[20:41] <king_> i got kubuntu 7.10
[20:41] <casey_> i dont have that, i have a volume bar at the top
[20:41] <limac> casey_: do u use ubuntu?
[20:41] <jussi01> king_: kdesu kate  /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:41] <limac> or kubuntu?
[20:41] <casey_> its some build of kubuntu
[20:41] <casey_> kubuntu*
[20:41] <jussi01> casey_: I think you are on ubuntu
[20:42] <casey_> hmm maybe
[20:42] <jussi01> casey_: anyway, if you select pacm there it should work
[20:42] <jussi01> pcm*
[20:42] <limac> king_: that's because kubuntu doesn't use gedit, so either try what jussi01 suggested or sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:42] <jussi01> limac: because its a raphical app, he needs kdesu
[20:43] <jussi01> dont use sudo with graphical apps
[20:43] <limac> casey_: i too think u r using kubuntu
[20:43] <casey_> when i load up it displays a kubuntu thing in blue
[20:43] <limac> jussi01: you got a point right there!
[20:43] <limac> :)
[20:43] <limac> perhaps u have the kde (kubuntu) theme installed! :D
[20:44] <limac> casey_:^^'
[20:44] <jussi01> casey_: it sounds to me you are using gnome on top of kubuntu.
[20:44] <casey_> ah yes i am
[20:44] <jussi01> casey_: Please join #ubuntu for help with gnome stuff :D
[20:45] <king_> A: System > prefernces > sessions <-- doesn't exist in my kubuntu 7.10 how do i get their?
[20:46] <casey_> they seem to be less helpful then here
[20:46] <jussi01> king_: menu -> system settings -> advanced -> session manager
[20:46] <jussi01> casey_: you had the list up! just choose pcm from it
[20:47] <jussi01> casey_: and also - dont repeat yourself so soon :)
[20:47] <limac> jussi01: don't u think front will be more appropriate to use
[20:47] <limac> ?
[20:48] <jussi01> limac: no.
[20:48] <limac> why
[20:48] <jussi01> limac: because i had the same issue with my laptop and I know what works
[20:48] <limac> allright
[20:48] <jussi01> :)
[20:49] <limac> ;D
[20:51] <kiiz> limac: i cant get my cdma internet connection to work with kubuntu.so i am try to intall a windows wm with qemu since i can easy set up the internet connection on windows then network kubuntu to use the connection on the vm
[20:52] <limac> kiiz: not even wired?
[20:52] <jussi01> kiiz: which modem are you using?
[20:53] <Taggnostr> is it normal that apt is used by something even when i restart the system?
[20:53] <kiiz> jussi01: it is a cdma FWT. not actually a modem but use windows modem drivers
[20:54] <limac> kiiz: are your restricted drivers in kubuntu enabled?
[20:55] <jussi01> kiiz: FWT?
[20:55] <kiiz> limac: yes but i can connet to the net in kubuntu.
[20:56] <kiiz> jussi01: Fix Wireless Terminal
[20:58] <limac> kiiz: try ifconfig and briefly tell us what it shows
[20:59]  * jussi01 -> bed
[21:00] <casey_> yeah they are not helping me
[21:01] <limac> casey_: any other help u need?
[21:02] <newuser> O.K.   I finally got a handle on the pastebin thing and have included all that remains of our private mess as to what it was we did.. I have to leave for about an hour if any of you brave soals want to tackle this problem I would greatly appreciate it and Merry Christmas    http://pastebin.com/d6ff3e414
[21:02] <newuser> well im back
[21:02] <casey_> just the one form before
[21:02] <newuser> anyone have any ideas
[21:02] <casey_> my volume slider is ajusting "headphones" and not "pcm"
[21:02] <casey_> the slider "on" the laptop, not the ubuntu one
[21:03] <BluesKaj> phones is a different ctrl than pcm
[21:03] <BluesKaj> make sure PCM is chosen in kmix
[21:03] <casey_> how do i get to kmix from the konsole
[21:04] <casey_> just type kmix?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> click on the speaker icon
[21:04] <king_> is there a plugin to put fishes inside the cube of compiz fusion?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> then mixer
[21:05] <casey_> i dont see anything that says kmix
[21:05] <BluesKaj> do you see the mixer tab on the bottom of the vol ctrl?
[21:06] <kiiz> limac: it shows eth0 and lo(?). rx and tx are all zero
[21:06] <casey_> ohohoh
[21:07] <casey_> ok im on the switches tab
[21:07] <limac> kiiz: try right clicking on the volume applet on the bottom right side of the screen
[21:08] <casey_> i can edit the volume via kmix but the slider still edits the wrong volume
[21:08] <BluesKaj> casey_, open the input tab
[21:08] <limac> kiiz: and there should be a list of all the available wireless netowoks in your reach
[21:08] <casey_> ok i opened it
[21:08] <BluesKaj> make sure PCM is turned on
[21:08] <limac> casey_: try fron instead of pci
[21:09] <casey_> under input i dont even see pcm
[21:09] <casey_> only output
[21:09] <BluesKaj> yeah sorry , output :/
[21:09] <BluesKaj> gawd
[21:10] <BluesKaj> BBL , fool around with the ctrls til you get them to work
[21:10] <casey_> i disable headphones but when i move the slider it reenables it
[21:11] <casey_> well i just set the controls to plus and minus to control it, i guess that works
[21:11] <kiiz> limac: show nothing. it is not a wirelss net work.terminal connect to pc by serial port
[21:12] <limac> then srry dude!
[21:17] <newuser> how to remove a dir
[21:21] <ardchoille> newuser: rm -r /path/dir
[21:23] <sigma_kubuntu> whats the kde alternative for skype?
[21:24] <jpatrick> sigma_kubuntu: I don't believe there is one...
[21:25] <boguh> hi, how can i get the home folder icon on my desktop?
[21:25] <sigma_kubuntu> jpatrick: what about dat telephony app that comes with ubuntu? i forgot the name
[21:25] <jpatrick> sigma_kubuntu: never used it
[21:25] <sigma_kubuntu> boguh: make a shortcut
[21:26] <boguh> sigma_kubuntu shuldnt there be predefined links?
[21:28] <sigma_kubuntu> boguh: not necessarily i made my shortcuts from scratch. then you right click and click properties an u can change the icon
[21:31] <romunov> can anyone help me with setting up a server? i wanna install a database (mysql) and php to run wordpress locally
[21:31] <napster> I would like to unlock mij samsung E250, maby someone got a link or program ?
[21:32] <CheGuevara> napster, hows that relevant to kubuntu
[21:32] <ardchoille> napster: That's not a kubuntu support issue
[21:33] <meeowzers> I am trying to use KDE4, but when I select KDE4 from the sessions, I just get kicked back to KDM.  Anyone, have any suggestions?
[21:33] <sigma_kubuntu> romonov: help.ubuntu.com - it has step by step guides to setting up a server. its pretty simple
[21:34] <ardchoille> !mysql
[21:34] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:34] <romunov> thanks, lamp is what i was looking for!
[21:34] <CheGuevara> meeowzers, RC 2 ?
[21:34] <sigma_kubuntu> meeowzers: try the live cd perhaps?
[21:35] <meeowzers> CheGuevara: yeah RC2, following the instructions on the Kubuntu page
[21:36] <CheGuevara> meeowzers, have you looked at your .xsession_errors
[21:36] <CheGuevara> that will help you troubleshoot
[21:38] <meeowzers> CheGuevara: I have no .xsession_errors?
[21:39] <meeowzers> nvm
[21:39] <CheGuevara> umm .xsession-errors
[21:39] <CheGuevara> sorry, my mistake
[21:41] <meeowzers> CheGuevara: kicker: WARNING:     *******WARNING****** index=3is out of bounds.
[21:41] <meeowzers> then errors
[21:41] <meeowzers> with badwindow
[21:42] <CheGuevara> meduxa, those are now kde3 errors
[21:42] <CheGuevara> u need to check that file
[21:42] <CheGuevara> after ur log in to kde 4 failed
[21:42] <CheGuevara> so after u get thrown back to kdm
[21:42] <CheGuevara> drop to a shell
[21:42] <CheGuevara> and view it from there
[21:43] <CheGuevara> or copy it, then log in to kde 3 and view the copy
[21:43] <meeowzers> ok got ya
[21:44] <meduxa> CheGuevara ?
[21:44] <CheGuevara> yes?
[21:45] <CheGuevara> oh sorry
[21:45] <CheGuevara> wrong nick :P
[21:45] <meduxa> ok
[21:49] <danroj> una pregunta yo tengo kde y en kde tengo compiz pero veo que pone mucho problema al ejecutar entonces queria saber si instalando beryl no tengo que editar los drivers???
[21:51] <romunov> danroj: yeah.. sure :)
[21:51] <sd32_> when is the expected release date for kde 4?
[21:52] <jpatrick> sd32_: January 11, or something...
[21:52] <sd32_> jpatrick, thanks
[21:53] <holo> hi
[21:53] <holo> can i have lamp in kubuntu
[21:53] <holo> ?
[21:53] <jpatrick> !lamp | holo
[21:53] <ubotu> holo: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:53] <sap> #kubuntu-devel
[21:54] <jpatrick> sap: with /join
[21:54] <sap> tanks
[21:54] <holo> tanks??? where??
[21:54]  * holo hides
[21:54] <sap> this should be thanks
[21:55] <romunov> can someone give me a hint on what this means:
[21:55] <romunov> Site niphargus installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 reload to enable.
[21:56] <romunov> aaah, i see, i need to _restart_
[21:56] <romunov> not reload
[21:56] <romunov> :rolleyes:
[22:03] <kiiz> how do i get kubuntu to use a proxy server on windows
[22:05] <n1ghtm4r3> Helloooo everybody
[22:05] <grul> hellooooooooooooooooooooooo
[22:07] <n1ghtm4r3> sup?
[22:09] <mith__> good evening
[22:09] <romunov> i've installed phpmyadmin, but how do i run the damn thing?
[22:10] <jpatrick> romunov: open your browser and point it to localhost
[22:10] <mith__> i'm a newbie...what should i do whit this?: "configure:3488: error: C compiler cannot create executables. See `config.log' for more details."
[22:10] <romunov> apache2 server opens up
[22:10] <K`zan> Hi folks, I installed usbview and upon attempting to run it, I get an error stating it could not open the file "/proc/bus/usb/devices".  USB is working and no errors in dmesg.  /proc/bus/usb is there but there are no devices.  What to do?
[22:10] <jpatrick> romunov: try the /phpmyadmin in the address bar after it
[22:11] <romunov> ah, works
[22:11] <romunov> thanks
[22:11] <K`zan> Apparently I need usbdevfs?  How do I get that? TMIA!
[22:12] <n1ghtm4r3> um ... how come all of a suddent i can only see my linux partition on my first HDD? ... my second hdd is now invisible
[22:16] <K`zan> Hi folks, I installed usbview and upon attempting to run it, I get an error stating it could not open the file "/proc/bus/usb/devices".  USB is working and no errors in dmesg.  /proc/bus/usb is there but there are no devices.  What to do - how do I get usbdevfs? Kubuntu with the 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP kernel here.
[22:18] <snarkster> where do i get information regarding installing kde4 after installing the live kde4 cd
[22:18] <n1ghtm4r3> snarkster : www.kubuntu.com
[22:20] <snarkster> cause i did apt-get dist-upgrade and now its in a loop
[22:21] <jac0b> is there a way to have nvidia-settings load automatically at startup
[22:23] <mith__> jac0b did you saved the settings to the X ?
[22:24] <mith__> configure:6996: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check...what should i do?
[22:25] <jac0b> how do you do that
[22:25] <rbrunhuber> Has anyone succeeded to run the kde rc2 packages from kubuntu.org?
[22:25] <NickPresta> rbrunhuber, yep.
[22:25] <boguh> me as well
[22:25] <bsander> yea me too
[22:26] <rbrunhuber> NickPresta: I don't know what i'm doing wrong, but they drop me straight back to kdm
[22:26] <bsander> but i did have some trouble :)
[22:26] <bsander> ah yeah
[22:26] <bsander> i had that too
[22:26] <bsander> edit /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[22:26] <rbrunhuber> bsander, NickPresta: I cannot find any error in every log I search, so I'm totally clueless
[22:26] <bsander> and add
[22:27] <bsander> export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
[22:27] <makuseru> can you install Konqueror and make it the default browser in 7.10?
[22:27] <bsander> that fixed it for me :)
[22:27] <jac0b> mith__: thanks I found it in the man file
[22:27] <boguh> makuseru konqueror is already installed
[22:28] <makuseru> boguh: how can i make it the default filebrowser
[22:28] <ubuntu_> sup +)
[22:28] <rbrunhuber> bsander: I'll try, be right back
[22:28] <bsander> ok :)
[22:28] <boguh> makuseru right click a folder -> properties -> click on the wrench and move konqueror to the top
[22:30] <makuseru> boguh: thanks
[22:30] <rbrunhuber> bsander: Thanks that fixed it.
[22:31] <bsander> rbrunhuber: np
[22:31] <bsander> enjoy your KDE4 :)
[22:31] <bsander> I found it to be a huge improvement over RC1
[22:31] <bsander> though it still needs some love, of course..
[22:32] <mith__> can anybody help me with this?:   configure:6996: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check ...cpp,gcc,g++ are already installed
[22:32] <rbrunhuber> bsander: I did not have any linux installations when rc1 was released
[22:33] <rbrunhuber> mith__: what do you want to compile?
[22:33] <bsander> mith__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305593
[22:33] <bsander> could be it
[22:33] <Hc\\> Hey, could someone tell me how to change the repositories of feisty from stable to unstable?
[22:34] <Hc\\> Just cannot find the packages from anywhere
[22:34] <rbrunhuber> Hc\\: what do you mean, there is no feisty "unstable"
[22:34] <bsander> rbrunhuber: OK, the enjoy your linux with KDE4 :) And don't ;et the rough edges scare you away :)
[22:34] <Hc\\> rbrunhuber: Repositories, these are having just so old updates
[22:35] <mith__> just a theme :D
[22:35] <rbrunhuber> Hc\\: Feisty is not getting new "versions" anymore just security fixes
[22:35] <bsander> Hc\\, if you want the latest kubuntu has to offer, do a dist-upgrade to gutsy
[22:35] <Hc\\> Ok, so i'm afraid that i got to upgrade to gutsy then
[22:36] <mith__> i'm very very new in linux... and in kubuntu
[22:36] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> >_>
[22:36] <bsander> mith
[22:36] <bsander> did you try waht they said there?
[22:36] <rbrunhuber> Hc\\: Yes but be prepared, this may take quite a long time depending on you bandwith and computer speed
[22:36] <bsander> sudo aptitude update
[22:36] <bsander> sudo aptitude install build-essential
[22:36] <bsander> then try ./configure again
[22:37] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> (O_o)
[22:37] <rbrunhuber> mith__: If you are new to linux it is a good idea to stay away from compiling your own packages.
[22:37] <Hc\\> rbrunhuber: Yes, i know. Just mixed debian and ubuntu's repos with each other again ( just as they told me at#ubuntu )
[22:38] <mith__> bsander i'm trying it just right...
[22:38] <Hc\\> Anyways, thanks alot.
[22:38] <mith__> rbrunhuber: thanks...but i want to learn how to use it :D
[22:38] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> hey is KDE 4 any good?
[22:38] <Hc\\> Btw, do you know about drivers to nvidia geforce 7600gs ? The one i got from nvidias sites are killing me
[22:39] <Hc\\> Broke on last update
[22:39] <mith__> Hc\\ try envy
[22:40] <mith__> it helps me a lot...i have the same card
[22:40] <Hc\\> Can be found from repos? Well, i think i just gotta try ^^
[22:40] <rbrunhuber> Hc\\: I'm sorry I'm one of the "stay to the repository" guys
[22:41] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> ubuntu rulez >_.
[22:41] <Hc\\> alsa-tools-gui = envy
[22:41] <Hc\\> rbrunhuber: I try allways first the repositories and then other ways.
[22:41] <endeemm> Hi All
[22:41] <rbrunhuber> Hc\\: So I don't know I normally mess up my installation by upgrading to unstable too early.
[22:42] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> whats the best distro for low sys laptop?
[22:42] <endeemm> Any one can help with Flash Player install on 7.10
[22:42] <Hc\\> Hard_C0Re_BuNNy: Any
[22:42] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> +) i knew it lol ^^
[22:44] <endeemm> Hallo?
[22:44] <tekteen> hello
[22:44] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> Bo0m aw need to restart finally Kubuntu finished installation >_>
[22:44] <endeemm> hi
[22:44] <bsander> hi
[22:44] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> OI!
[22:45] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> Hard core bunny in here +)
[22:45] <endeemm> Any one wana help with flash?
[22:45] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> dont panic >_>
[22:45] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> breath deeeply
[22:45] <tekteen> endeemm: sure
[22:45] <XceII> Grow a brain.
[22:45] <bsander> endeemm: it's not working?
[22:46] <tekteen> endeemm: What is the problem?
[22:46] <endeemm> I try to install the flash player 9 but get an error
[22:46] <tekteen> endeemm: what is the error?
[22:46] <Hard_C0Re_BuNNy> Rastalavista >_>
[22:47] <tekteen> endeemm: also do u use firefox
[22:47] <tekteen> ?
[22:47] <endeemm> yes firefox and something about my system is not suported
[22:47] <tekteen> endeemm: so u have a 64 bit computer?
[22:47] <bsander> endeemm: How are you trying to install it?
[22:48] <endeemm> not sure I am a noob
[22:48] <Hc\\> mith__: Have you found out the problem with glx? Atleast i have it.
[22:48] <Hc\\> X crashes everytime i try to use something that requires glx
[22:48] <tekteen> endeemm: is it a new computer?
[22:48] <endeemm> No but a new install
[22:49] <bsander> endeemm: are you using adept or apt-get to install flash?
[22:49] <bsander> or a package from adobe's site?
[22:49] <tekteen> endeemm: or through firefox
[22:49] <endeemm> apt-get
[22:49] <bsander> yeah or that :)
[22:49] <tekteen> what command do u use?
[22:49] <endeemm> and firefox
[22:49] <bsander> so what apt-get command did you enter?
[22:50] <endeemm> install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer-installer'
[22:50] <tekteen> bsander: we are on the same wavelength
[22:50] <mith__> Hc\\:i don't have any problem now
[22:50] <bsander> tekteen: indeed :)
[22:50] <tekteen> endeemm: in the konsole?
[22:50] <mith__> i'm in problem with my first compiling :D:D
[22:50] <tekteen> or through firefox?
[22:50] <bsander> endeemm: try installing flashplugin-nonfree
[22:50] <bsander> with adept
[22:51] <endeemm> I have it on desktop and try to run it in konsole
[22:51] <Hc\\> mith__: Hmm.. I've had that problem since the beggining, before and after i installed the drivers.
[22:51] <bsander> or even better: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras. It'll get you flash, audio/video codecs, etc. really useful.
[22:52] <mith__> i haven't installed any driver ... only the nvidia i have... but now i'm using the restricted driver instead the kubuntu....
[22:52] <endeemm> I did the restricted extras and nothing
[22:52] <BluesKaj> bsander, some ppl have said that the new adobe flash versions will break if installed by adept or apt , there's bugs
[22:52] <BluesKaj> !flash
[22:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:53] <Hc\\> mith__: Without drivers got 640x480 resolution, so i had to install
[22:53] <bsander> oh ok
[22:53] <bsander> haven't had any problems myself :)
[22:54] <endeemm> could it have any thing to do with me runing compiz
[22:54] <BluesKaj> me neither , but apparently the newer versions are buggy
[22:54] <bsander> hmm ok
[22:54] <phretor> hi there
[22:55] <tekteen> endeemm: no
[22:55] <bsander> but that guide doesn't list any gutsy help..
[22:55] <tekteen> endeemm: I run compiz and flash
[22:55] <bsander> yeah that should be no problem
[22:55] <mith__> Hc\\:i've enabled the restricted driver so after reboot i set everything in nvidia-settings as a root and after the next reboot everything worked well
[22:55] <bsander> only java and compiz don't play nice :)
[22:55] <lascar> i've an integrated atheros wifi card on my laptop that gutsy can't detect.  Is that fixed in the update?
[22:56] <Hc\\> mith__: Where are the nvidia-settings located?
[22:56] <lascar> (i'm using eth now)
[22:56] <bsander> but flash should be fine
[22:56] <mith__> start it from konsole
[22:56] <tekteen> lascar: gutsy?
[22:56] <endeemm> oh yes java would be my next question
[22:56] <lascar> tekteen: yep.
[22:57] <tekteen> lascar: Have you used the restricted drivers manager
[22:57] <lascar> tekteen: i'm pulling a major update now, and I'd like to know if that's fixed.  do you know?
[22:57] <lascar> tekteen: yes, and it's being updated too.
[22:57] <Hc\\> mith__: Restricted are enabled >.<
[22:57] <bsander> brb
[22:57] <tekteen> lascar: sorry no idea
[22:57] <lascar> s'ok.
[22:57] <mith__> Hc\\ okay did you restarted your machine?
[22:57] <tekteen> lascar: if it does not work try ndiswrapper
[22:58] <lascar> !ndiswrapper
[22:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:58] <Hc\\> mith__: Have bin for like 3months?
[22:58] <tekteen> lascar: that is what I use
[22:58] <Hc\\> I've installed the restricted drivers for long time ago
[22:58] <mith__> :D:D
[22:59] <tekteen> endeemm: u still here?
[22:59] <lascar> tekteen: i keep hearing about it.  what does it do?
[22:59] <Hc\\> Took em down from nvidias homesites..
[22:59] <endeemm> yes
[22:59] <tekteen> lascar: take windows drivers and use them in linux
[22:59] <Hc\\> The installer informed that it was successfull (after a couple of attempts), did it again, but the problem remained.
[22:59] <mith__> i hate the driver on the nvidia site i can't install them
[23:00] <Hc\\> And i had to modbprobe to get X-server start.
[23:00] <tekteen> endeemm: do u know how to configure the repositories?
[23:00] <endeemm> I got like all the plugins installed but if I go to youtube it askes for schokwave flash
[23:00] <endeemm> yes
[23:00] <mith__> and now...have a cigarette :D
[23:00] <PJC121> lascar: the asus eee uses atheros wifi, maybe have a google and see if its the same model, if so there are lots about it in forums etc
[23:00] <lascar> i'm using an acer notebok
[23:00] <tekteen> endeemm: then flash is not working?
[23:00] <BluesKaj> endeemm, rebooting helps
[23:01] <Hc\\> mith__: I'm afraid i'm going to be stuck on this for a long time :D
[23:01] <PJC121> just a long shot :)
[23:01] <lascar> tekteen: i'll check it out -- if necessary -- after the update.  thanx.
[23:01] <tekteen> lascar: ok
[23:01] <endeemm> something is not working
[23:01] <Hc\\> Anyways, good night everyone. Need to get some sleep before work and drinking beer
[23:01] <lascar> lol; g'night
[23:02] <endeemm> I try rebooting again BRB
[23:02] <tekteen> ok
[23:05] <n1ghtm4r3> !beryl
[23:05] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[23:06] <endeemm> Ok Back
[23:06] <n1ghtm4r3> !compiz
[23:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:06] <endeemm> no change
[23:06] <tekteen> endeemm: ok
[23:06] <romunov> any ideas, is gd library in a repository?
[23:07] <endeemm> tekteen:yes it still says I need flash or have an old java
[23:08] <tekteen> endeemm: do u have a 64 bit computer?
[23:08] <endeemm> tekteen: how can i find out
[23:09] <tekteen> endeemm: open a konsole
[23:10] <endeemm> tekteen: ok
[23:10] <tekteen> endeemm: then type ¨cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ´model name´¨
[23:11] <tekteen> endeemm: what does the command say?
[23:11] <lascar> ndiswrapper it is...
[23:12] <tekteen> lascar: what?
[23:12] <endeemm> tekteen: no such file or directory
[23:12] <tekteen> ok
[23:12] <tekteen> try ¨sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ´model name´¨
[23:13] <endeemm> tekteen: I run kubuntu 7.10
[23:13] <lascar> tekteen: is there a deb available
[23:13] <tekteen> lascar: yes but I think it is better to download it and compile it
[23:14] <tekteen> endeemm: what does the new command say?
[23:14] <toshiba> does anyone know how to install flash player for konqueror without installing firefox or opera?
[23:14] <endeemm> clflush size    : 64
[23:14] <endeemm> and a lot more
[23:15] <tekteen> endeemm: I am sorry but I do not know how to help
[23:15] <endeemm> what are we looking for?
[23:16] <tekteen> endeemm: I want to know if u have a 64 bit processor
[23:16] <endeemm> processor       : 0
[23:16] <endeemm> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[23:16] <BluesKaj> Hard_cC0REe_BunN, install flashplugin-nonfree, then open konq and scan for plugins
[23:16] <endeemm> cpu family      : 15
[23:16] <endeemm> model           : 6
[23:16] <GG> oi
[23:16] <GG> Someone?
[23:16] <endeemm> model name      :               Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
[23:17] <endeemm> stepping        : 2
[23:17] <GG> Flash Player 9 for konqueror?
[23:17] <endeemm> cpu MHz         : 3000.958
[23:17] <tekteen> endeemm: ok
[23:17] <endeemm> cache size      : 2048 KB
[23:17] <endeemm> physical id     : 0
[23:17] <endeemm> siblings        : 2
[23:17] <tekteen> ok
[23:17] <endeemm> core id         : 0
[23:17] <endeemm> cpu cores       : 2
[23:17] <GG> DAMN
[23:17] <endeemm> fpu             : yes
[23:17] <endeemm> fpu_exception   : yes
[23:17] <tekteen> please stop
[23:17] <endeemm> cpuid level     : 6
[23:17] <endeemm> wp              : yes
[23:17] <Dragnslcr> !paste | endeemm
[23:17] <ubotu> endeemm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:17] <endeemm> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
[23:17] <endeemm> bogomips        : 6007.12
[23:17] <what> what is the best distro to use for a multimedia and photo type linux
[23:17] <lascar> tekteen: "./" compiles, right?
[23:17] <tekteen> ty Dragnslcr
[23:18] <endeemm> clflush size    : 64
[23:18] <endeemm> cache_alignment : 128
[23:18] <endeemm> address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
[23:18] <endeemm> power management:
[23:18] <endeemm> processor       : 1
[23:18] <endeemm> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[23:18] <endeemm> ups sorry
[23:18] <GG> CPU :InTel DonT GivE a F*** 4 102Ghz >_>
[23:18] <tekteen> lascar: no
[23:18] <endeemm> Ok sorry
[23:18] <tekteen> !compile | lascar
[23:18] <ubotu> lascar: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:18] <lascar> thanx
[23:18] <GG> OMG
[23:19] <GG> FlashPlayer!
[23:19] <GG> RuleZ!
[23:19] <GG> When you dont have it >_>
[23:19] <GG> Damn
[23:19] <PasteL> Shockwave director ?
[23:19] <tekteen> !flash64 | endeemm
[23:19] <ubotu> endeemm: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[23:19] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[23:19] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:19] <GG> have anyone managed to install Flashplayer in to Konqueror?
[23:19] <endeemm> Ok I try thanks for the help!!!
[23:19] <GG> without installing the damn Firefox?
[23:20] <BluesKaj> GG, install flashplugin-nonfree, then open konq and scan for plugins
[23:20] <GG> >_>
[23:20] <tekteen> lascar: u still here?
[23:21] <GG> ERROR: Your home directory does not have a Mozilla, Netscape, or Opera
[23:21] <GG>        browser user directory. Run one of these browsers at least once
[23:21] <PasteL> have anyone managed to install shockwave direcotr in to firefox or opera?
[23:21] <tekteen> PasteL: yes
[23:21] <PasteL> how??
[23:22] <PasteL> i found information about install with wine
[23:22] <lascar> wait, i found the frontend
[23:22] <tekteen> PasteL: do u have a 64 bit computer?
[23:22] <PasteL> 32
[23:22] <tekteen> PasteL: open a konsole
[23:22] <PasteL> ok..
[23:22] <tekteen> PasteL: and type ¨sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree¨
[23:22] <BluesKaj> `L`, GG open konq /configure/plugins /scan for plugins
[23:23] <tekteen> PasteL: then restart firefox
[23:24] <tekteen> PasteL: did it work?
[23:24] <PasteL> ok.. try open this page http://www.isketch.net/isketch.shtml
[23:24] <GG> >_>
[23:24] <maduser> help my screen resoltion is all out of wack
[23:24] <GG> it start to piss me off
[23:25] <maduser> its thinks it 640x480
[23:25] <PasteL> tekteen: it works, but i need "shockwave director". not flash plugin :/
[23:25] <tekteen> PasteL: I can not open that page
[23:26] <tekteen> PasteL: there is no shockwave for linux
[23:26] <tekteen> PasteL: only flash
[23:26] <PasteL> :/
[23:26] <tekteen> PasteL: to test flash go to youtube or http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=24703
[23:27] <PasteL> tekteen: flash ok here
[23:27] <PasteL> youtube works, miniclip too
[23:27] <tekteen> PasteL: ok
[23:27] <tekteen> !shockwave
[23:27] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[23:28] <PasteL> yeap
[23:28] <PasteL> look that
[23:28] <PasteL> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FShockwave&ei=wb9hR-O0NZGegwTUrLzfCw&usg=AFQjCNHWqoMJ2kAlcXx6FEkixuh0NkRvUQ&sig2=gUOxM2eOr_PcQfhm3F4HVg
[23:28] <calmar> hi all. is beryll or something similar hard to setup with kubuntu? or default almost?
[23:28] <lascar> tekteen: do i dl windows driver manually, and then install them?
[23:28] <tekteen> calmar: it changed its name to compiz fusion
[23:28] <BluesKaj> PasteL, i think that URL you posted isn't written properly for konq at least
[23:28] <PasteL> tekteen: with 'wine' don't works 'good', i think
[23:28] <calmar> tekteen: I see.
[23:29] <tekteen> PasteL:?
[23:29] <tekteen> !ndiswrapper | lascar
[23:29] <ubotu> lascar: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:30] <lascar> tekteen: thanx, i'm out.
[23:30] <tekteen> lascar: bye
[23:30] <kub^> hi im quite new to linux, im having an issue with k3b, basically it freezes my pc and i have to hard reset when i try to burn dvd ISOs, can anyone help ?
[23:30] <PasteL> tekteen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[23:31] <BluesKaj> !codecs | kub
[23:31] <ubotu> kub: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:31] <tekteen> PasteL: what it the link for?
[23:32] <PasteL> about shockwave director, but with Wine "emulator"
[23:32] <mith__> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed....what does this mean?
[23:32] <tekteen> PasteL: ok
[23:32] <tekteen> PasteL: do u need help with it?
[23:33] <PasteL> tekteen: It would be good
[23:34] <tekteen> PasteL: not sure how I can help.
[23:34] <kub^> bluesKaj sometimes i can actually burn the DVD ISOs sometimes not i dont want to seem presumptouous but i dont think its a codec issue as i have actually watched a dvd or 2 that i've managed to burn
[23:34] <tekteen> PasteL: If u have a question ask me
[23:37] <tektee1> Sorry
[23:37] <BluesKaj> kub^, ive encountered some very difficult DVD files lately , some are deliberately haed to burn and eat up CPU power due to error correction constsntly running , whether they're ISO , avi or a straight copy
[23:38] <PasteL> tekteen: nopz, I can live without that page kk
[23:39] <BluesKaj> the culprits are sometimes the file codecs and sometimes the Sony DVD+RWs , which I ended up throwing out due their instability
[23:39] <BluesKaj> kub^, hope you havent bought any Sonys
[23:40] <kub^> BluesKaj: its a .img file originally that i renamed to .iso im thinking that may be where im going wrong and should use a .img specific command from CLI ? (it's lightscribe btw)
[23:41] <BluesKaj> no kub^ most img files will burn ok AFAIK ,
[23:41] <kub^> blueskaj: someone said to me to check if i have DMA enabled, not sure how to do that with hdparm
[23:42] <BluesKaj> DMA enabling is only temporary
[23:45] <TimS> BluesKaj: What do you use to burn AVIs as DVDs?
[23:45] <kub^> BluesKaj would you say it's likely to be my hardware then ?
[23:46] <kub^> BluesKaj coz i even managed to crash the PC with a blank disc in and looking at the further options menu in K3b
[23:46] <mith__> wow!!! my first compiling is finished :D:D
[23:47] <BluesKaj> kub^, most avi files are either Divx or xvid which most fairly new stand alone DVDplayers can play without any probs.
[23:48] <BluesKaj> kub^, that sounds like your K3B is buggy
[23:49] <jur> somebody speak russian?
[23:49] <kub^> BluesKaj should i purge and reinstall ? (i come from a windows background as you can tell :) )
[23:49] <calmar> does compiz make any sense from a work perspektive? I guess it probably does for KDE at least?
[23:49] <mrukus> well....its all over, im backing up pictures before i install vista again
[23:49] <mrukus> i tried
[23:49] <mrukus> i really did
[23:49] <calmar> mrukus: what have you tried?
[23:49] <mrukus> the next computer i buy will be one with linux already installed on it def
[23:50] <mrukus> but teh switch isn't just worth it
[23:50] <jur> это кто ни будь прочитал?
[23:50] <mrukus> kubuntu
[23:50] <mrukus> ubuntu
[23:50] <calmar> and what went wrong?, mrukus
[23:50] <mrukus> just not that user friendly
[23:50] <mrukus> i am no fool
[23:50] <mrukus> i know a decent about computers
[23:51] <mrukus> and the open source thing is a great idea
[23:51] <calmar> mrukus: aha, yeah. for everyone what he wants..
[23:51] <jur> Все пидары!
[23:51] <calmar> well, you get what you get in MS: :) works too
[23:51] <jur> Че ты пиздишь сука?
[23:51] <mrukus> i will probabally be back someday, i just need a computer that works and works out of the box for now in college
[23:52] <calmar> i'm actually insetalling ubunto for an ex-windows users. I hope they will be more satisfied with it :)
[23:52] <mrukus> fairwell
[23:52] <jur>  нихуя не понял! а ну по русски давай!
[23:52] <bsander> does anybody here also have problems with kcheckgmail?
[23:52] <bsander> it keeps on trying to log in, but it fails
[23:52] <calmar> mrukus: yeah, I see
[23:52] <bsander> something to do with cookies, but removing them in konqi doesn't fix it :(
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[23:53] <vzduch> !ru | jur
[23:53] <ubotu> jur: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[23:53] <bsander> rrright..
[23:53] <bsander> merry christmas to you too
[23:53] <jur> !кг
[23:53] <jur> !ru
[23:53] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[23:58] <dawn> that