| === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson | ||
| kiko | hello hello | 12:00 |
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| kiko | am I early? | 12:00 |
| mwhudson | two hours early | 12:00 |
| kiko | wow! | 12:03 |
| === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch | ||
| === cprov is now known as cprov-out | ||
| === kiko is now known as kiko-fud | ||
| === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell | ||
| === cprov-out is now known as cprov | ||
| === danilo__ is now known as danilos | ||
| === barry_ is now known as barry | ||
| gmb | Meeting time? | 14:00 |
| jtv | gmb: seems so | 14:00 |
| danilos | gmb: it indeed is | 14:00 |
| mrevell | gmb: Aye lad | 14:01 |
| danilos | me | 14:01 |
| danilos | me | 14:01 |
| mrevell | moi | 14:01 |
| kiko-fud | me | 14:01 |
| === kiko-fud is now known as kiko | ||
| cprov | me | 14:02 |
| danilos | ok, kiko, will you lead the meeting? :) | 14:02 |
| kiko | I don't know how, but BjornT can sure do it! | 14:02 |
| jtv | danilos: just say "who will chair this meeting" in the middle of a "me" storm. | 14:03 |
| barry | me (but waiting for a phone call) | 14:03 |
| mthaddon | me | 14:03 |
| BjornT | well, since no one else volunteers.... | 14:04 |
| BjornT | let's start this week's LP developer meeting | 14:04 |
| BjornT | who's here? | 14:04 |
| gmb | me | 14:04 |
| danilos | me | 14:04 |
| mwhudson | me | 14:04 |
| flacoste | me | 14:04 |
| adeuring | me | 14:04 |
| sinzui | me | 14:04 |
| barry | me | 14:04 |
| EdwinGrubbs | me | 14:05 |
| statik | me | 14:05 |
| mrevell | me | 14:05 |
| jtv | me | 14:05 |
| schwuk | me | 14:05 |
| SteveA | why are we having the meeting here? | 14:05 |
| kiko | SteveA, read the mailing list next time, but BjornT is chairing. | 14:05 |
| SteveA | I've been on vacation | 14:05 |
| kiko | good for you! :) | 14:06 |
| danilos | tis a pretty short list of attendees | 14:06 |
| jsk | me | 14:06 |
| kiko | indeed. cprov? | 14:06 |
| BjornT | bac and matsubara are on leave | 14:07 |
| kiko | salgado is on vacation too. | 14:07 |
| danilos | so is carlos | 14:07 |
| BjornT | allenap: ping - meeting time | 14:07 |
| cprov | me | 14:07 |
| allenap | me | 14:07 |
| allenap | BjornT: Thanks. | 14:07 |
| BjornT | == Agenda == | 14:07 |
| BjornT | * Roll call | 14:07 |
| BjornT | * Agenda | 14:07 |
| BjornT | * Next meeting | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Actions from last meeting | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Bug tags | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * DBA report (stub) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | ---- | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Survey: Are you using lpreview yet? (mwhudson) | 14:08 |
| BjornT | ---- | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Blockers | 14:08 |
| BjornT | * Next meeting | 14:08 |
| BjornT | who knows they will not be here next week? | 14:08 |
| danilos | I'm off to vacation next week | 14:09 |
| danilos | (back only on January 8th) | 14:09 |
| jtv | And carlos will still be away. | 14:09 |
| schwuk | I've got holiday planned for next Thurs as well | 14:09 |
| ddaa | me | 14:09 |
| danilos | so list is getting pretty short, with it being already short enough | 14:09 |
| danilos | ddaa: you sticking around for meeting next week? | 14:09 |
| ddaa | I should be at work in +=7days | 14:10 |
| BjornT | kiko: quite a lot of people will be away next week. still worth having a meeting? | 14:10 |
| kiko | BjornT, I think so, because it's post-rollout | 14:10 |
| kiko | BjornT, Rinchen will be here and I should be too | 14:10 |
| danilos | I'd say one could plan next meeting for next year, but yeah, it's post-rollout | 14:10 |
| BjornT | yes, good point. | 14:10 |
| BjornT | so, let's have a meeting next week, same time as usual | 14:10 |
| BjornT | * Actions from last meeting | 14:11 |
| leonardr | me | 14:11 |
| cprov | i will be on vacations (probably), but I will attend the meeting | 14:11 |
| BjornT | there were no actions from last week | 14:11 |
| kiko | cprov! that's great to hear. :) | 14:11 |
| BjornT | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 14:11 |
| kiko | I am standing in for the great chinaman this week | 14:11 |
| BjornT | did matsubara send his oops report to anyone? | 14:11 |
| BjornT | thanks kiko | 14:11 |
| kiko | there are no, and I mean zero, OOPSes of note in the daily report | 14:11 |
| * flacoste cheers | 14:12 | |
| kiko | there is one which is a bit odd, which is the +menudata one | 14:12 |
| kiko | here: OOPS-711A312 | 14:12 |
| ubotu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/711A312 | 14:12 |
| kiko | flacoste, can someone take a quick look into that? I think it's shallow. | 14:12 |
| flacoste | i will | 14:12 |
| danilos | we are also getting increased number of timeouts due to ongoing hardy translations opening | 14:13 |
| kiko | the significant ones in the lpnet summaries | 14:13 |
| kiko | danilos, when is that going to end? I had an ETA of 15h on tuesday :-/ | 14:13 |
| kiko | as I was saying | 14:13 |
| kiko | the significant ones in the lpnet summaries | 14:13 |
| kiko | are to do with the sane_description bug limit | 14:13 |
| kiko | which is fixed on staging | 14:13 |
| danilos | kiko: jtv should be tracking progress on that | 14:13 |
| kiko | and a bunch of Unicode* issues | 14:13 |
| kiko | danilos, okay. I'm just concerned about it | 14:14 |
| danilos | kiko: it's hard to handle it timely with only one admin around | 14:14 |
| mrevell_ | Sorry, broadband problems. I won't be here next week. | 14:14 |
| kiko | jtv, let's talk about this after the meeting. | 14:14 |
| jtv | kiko: ok | 14:14 |
| BjornT | kiko: are you done? | 14:14 |
| === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell | ||
| kiko | BjornT, well, yeah. I wanted to point out only that a lot of tuesday oopses were related to the database being hammered by rosetta -- we even got some late pingdom alerts | 14:15 |
| kiko | timeouts and weird database integrity errors | 14:15 |
| jtv | constraint violations? | 14:15 |
| kiko | yeah | 14:15 |
| kiko | like +filebug crashing because there was no bugmessage there | 14:16 |
| kiko | it looks like race conditions right and left | 14:16 |
| BjornT | ok. no time to discuss that here, let's do that after the meeting. | 14:16 |
| BjornT | thanks kiko. moving on. | 14:16 |
| BjornT | * Critical Bugs (mrevell) | 14:16 |
| mrevell | Hello, Joey's on vacation today. | 14:16 |
| mrevell | I only see one critical bug and it is marked Fix Committed. | 14:16 |
| mrevell | I presume there's nothing to report back to Joey on that. the bug number is | 14:17 |
| kiko | because we are a great team that fixes critical problems! :) | 14:17 |
| mrevell | 173096 | 14:17 |
| mrevell | kiko: Yeah! :) | 14:17 |
| mrevell | bug 173096 | 14:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173096 in malone "Misleading "Content-Encoding: gzip" header on downloads" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173096 | 14:17 |
| kiko | that's thank to bac | 14:17 |
| mrevell | Thanks bac. So, unless there's something to report back to Joey on that, I'l hand back to you BjornT | 14:17 |
| BjornT | thanks | 14:17 |
| BjornT | * Bug tags | 14:18 |
| BjornT | no new bug tags have been proposed | 14:18 |
| BjornT | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 14:18 |
| mthaddon | Staging codehosting is getting close to completion | 14:18 |
| mthaddon | Staging update failed again but I believe it's now fixed per email from stub - will be doing a manual update after the meeting | 14:18 |
| mthaddon | Copy-missing-translations script still running... | 14:18 |
| mthaddon | PQM durations script broken and I'd appreciate if anyone could help me debug it | 14:18 |
| mthaddon | That's it unless anyone has questions | 14:18 |
| mwhudson | woo staging codehosting | 14:18 |
| danilos | mthaddon: cool, just the news I was looking for, thanks for the report | 14:19 |
| kiko | staging codehosting! wow! | 14:19 |
| BjornT | thanks mthaddon | 14:19 |
| kiko | mthaddon, what's left in that work? | 14:19 |
| kiko | (BjornT, allow me just that quick question) | 14:20 |
| BjornT | sure | 14:20 |
| mthaddon | kiko, thumper has a branch that will setup the configs and allow codehosting to be completed | 14:20 |
| kiko | mthaddon, will we have it in time for next week's QA | 14:20 |
| mwhudson | setting up the syncing of actual branch data i think | 14:20 |
| kiko | and are the code team planning on using it? | 14:20 |
| mwhudson | kiko: partly, i think | 14:20 |
| kiko | what's missing? | 14:20 |
| mthaddon | kiko, we need a separate configs directory - bzr-staging | 14:20 |
| mthaddon | with a bunch of custom config options | 14:20 |
| kiko | mthaddon, I think that's fine by me. flacoste see any problem with it? | 14:21 |
| mthaddon | discussed yesterday with thumper - not sure if it's already been submitted | 14:21 |
| flacoste | kiko: nope, apart the usual config PITA | 14:21 |
| mthaddon | but it just missed last night's update | 14:21 |
| kiko | I think that landed today, didn't it? | 14:21 |
| mwhudson | kiko: it'll be hard to test stuff to do with mirrored branches, i think | 14:21 |
| kiko | mwhudson, hmmm. ok, tell me this after the meeting. thanks! | 14:22 |
| mwhudson | yeah, the config branch landed a couple of hours ago | 14:22 |
| BjornT | ok, moving on | 14:22 |
| BjornT | * DBA report (stub) | 14:22 |
| BjornT | stub is not here. mthaddon, do you have a dba report? | 14:22 |
| mthaddon | mwhudson, cool, I can do a manual update and it should be up and running then | 14:22 |
| mthaddon | BjornT, fraid not | 14:22 |
| BjornT | ok | 14:23 |
| kiko | I have some DBA issues that might be worth mentioning | 14:23 |
| BjornT | kiko: sure | 14:23 |
| kiko | there is a small snag with patch 88-31-0 that is causing staging updates to fail, but it's already good; we'll do a manual rev now and it should work automatically tomorrow. if it doesn't please don't let it go by unnoticed | 14:23 |
| kiko | we are considering upgrading the DB server hardware in the near future | 14:23 |
| kiko | and stub's been working on the replication stuff which will be a welcome improvement | 14:24 |
| kiko | does anyone have any DB patches that still need review or haven't landed yet? | 14:24 |
| kiko | there is a small window of opportunity for us if you do need something | 14:24 |
| kiko | I remember tom berger had mentioned a change but I've forgotten what it was | 14:24 |
| kiko | anyone else? | 14:24 |
| mwhudson | i have one change but it's no trivial i doubt it's worth it | 14:25 |
| mwhudson | bug 151583 | 14:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 151583 in launchpad-bazaar "codeimportresult.date_started should be renamed to date_job_started" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151583 | 14:25 |
| allenap | I need a correction to security.cfg. Does that count? | 14:25 |
| kiko | yes it counts | 14:25 |
| BjornT | kiko: tom's patch would be about renaming the janitor. it's that that important, we can do it in the next cycle. | 14:25 |
| BjornT | kiko: s/that/not/ | 14:25 |
| adeuring | I'd like to get lxml install at least for the PQM machine | 14:25 |
| adeuring | s/install/installed/ | 14:26 |
| BjornT | adeuring: that's not a db patch, though! ;) | 14:26 |
| kiko | adeuring, that needs an IS RT ticket, and an email to joey CC: launchpad to track it | 14:26 |
| kiko | BjornT, okay, no problem. | 14:26 |
| adeuring | kiko: I know; I already have a ticket | 14:26 |
| kiko | allenap, can I see the diff anywhere? it should be rs=BjornT or something though | 14:26 |
| flacoste | BjornT: renaming the janitor shouldn't need a DB patch? | 14:26 |
| allenap | kiko: Not yet, but I'll get it to you asap. | 14:26 |
| flacoste | it's only modify production data, no?% | 14:27 |
| BjornT | flacoste: right. it's less error prone doing it with a db patch, though. | 14:28 |
| kiko | BjornT, I think it was something else that tom wanted IIRC | 14:28 |
| flacoste | BjornT: putting a script to run on LaunchpadProductionStatus usually works fine also | 14:28 |
| BjornT | kiko: maybe, let's look at that after the meeting. | 14:28 |
| kiko | BjornT, hokay | 14:28 |
| BjornT | moving on. talk to kiko about db patches, if you have any. | 14:28 |
| BjornT | * Sysadmin requests (mrevell) | 14:28 |
| kiko | yes, talk to me. and send me money too | 14:29 |
| mrevell | Does anyone have an RT number that they'd like to see chased up? | 14:29 |
| * kiko looks at adeuring | 14:29 | |
| * kiko looks at barry | 14:29 | |
| flacoste | kiko, Rinchen is well aware of those | 14:29 |
| jtv | mrevell: after staging is back on track, we'd like a re-run of that statistics script. | 14:29 |
| adeuring | Yes... let me look for the number... | 14:30 |
| flacoste | i think that elmo is currently taking care of #29298 (mailman on staging) | 14:30 |
| * barry sends kiko a meelion dollars | 14:30 | |
| adeuring | ticket #29558 | 14:30 |
| mrevell | jtv: Is there an RT number with that? | 14:30 |
| jtv | mrevell: mine is #29586. | 14:30 |
| mrevell | thanks adeuring | 14:30 |
| mrevell | thanks jtv | 14:30 |
| kiko | good man adeuring | 14:30 |
| statik | mthaddon: our squid setup on staging and production, I'd like to talk with you about that sometime after this meeting | 14:30 |
| mthaddon | statik, sure | 14:30 |
| kiko | statik, yeah, the feeds cache is important with this release because of announcements | 14:31 |
| mrevell | I'll see if I can get a status from the sysadmin chaps on those and will report back. Thanks BjornT | 14:31 |
| BjornT | thanks | 14:31 |
| kiko | indeed thanks BjornT | 14:31 |
| BjornT | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 14:31 |
| mrevell | Ah me again | 14:31 |
| mrevell | For today's user affecting issue, I'd like to raise bug 139495 and an associated problem. | 14:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139495 in launchpad "Beta testers are redirected even when logged out" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139495 | 14:31 |
| mrevell | mpt's bug report describes how, although not logged in, he was redirected to edge when following a link from Google. This was because he already had the cookie to say he was a beta tester. | 14:31 |
| kiko | hmmmm | 14:31 |
| mrevell | The associated problem is reported as when a beta tester logs in at launchpad.net, on a browser without previous LP session cookies, they are redirected to edge.launchpad.net where they are required to log in again. | 14:31 |
| kiko | okay. so we should clear that cookie when logging out? | 14:31 |
| mrevell | Logging out from edge results in a redirect to launchpad.net where the user is still logged in. Trying to log out from launchpad.net results in a redirect to edge, where the user is already logged out. | 14:32 |
| kiko | flacoste, what do you think? | 14:32 |
| flacoste | is jamesh around? | 14:32 |
| statik | this annoys me every single day | 14:32 |
| jtv | sometimes it'd be nice to have a production.launchpad.net | 14:32 |
| * flacoste doesn't know the details of that to have an opinion | 14:32 | |
| statik | well, the logging in twice annoys me. I don't do the logout thing that often | 14:33 |
| flacoste | but I know the redirection coed also cause problems in the tests | 14:33 |
| flacoste | but that's probably another issue | 14:33 |
| mrevell | Perhaps I should raise this on the list and then we can discuss further. | 14:34 |
| flacoste | mrevell: i'll look into this | 14:34 |
| mrevell | thanks flacoste | 14:34 |
| BjornT | thanks mrevell | 14:34 |
| BjornT | * Survey: Are you using lpreview yet? (mwhudson) | 14:34 |
| sinzui | me | 14:34 |
| statik | not me | 14:34 |
| gmb | me | 14:34 |
| barry | not me (haven't had a new branch yet) | 14:34 |
| * mwhudson hopes the topic is clear, i mailed the list a week ago | 14:34 | |
| flacoste | not me | 14:34 |
| ddaa | yes, lpreview is love | 14:34 |
| BjornT | me | 14:34 |
| jtv | not me | 14:34 |
| EdwinGrubbs | not me | 14:35 |
| kiko | thanks guys. | 14:35 |
| danilos | not me | 14:35 |
| kiko | I haven't tried lpreview yet. | 14:35 |
| mwhudson | those who haven't: please try | 14:35 |
| jsk | not yet | 14:35 |
| allenap | not me | 14:35 |
| kiko | so | 14:35 |
| mwhudson | those who have: please tell me where it sucks | 14:35 |
| BjornT | those of you who answered 'not me', why aren't you using it? | 14:35 |
| kiko | by next week | 14:35 |
| kiko | those who said "not me" | 14:35 |
| kiko | please try it at least once and have feedback to submit | 14:35 |
| danilos | kiko: I won't have a chance to do that by next week | 14:36 |
| kiko | mwhudson, I will tell you this: I will be really motivated to use it when it has a backend. | 14:36 |
| ddaa | got feedback | 14:36 |
| kiko | danilos, vacationers are excused. | 14:36 |
| * mwhudson points kiko at gmb | 14:36 | |
| * barry will try it for his next new branch | 14:36 | |
| kiko | gmbeeee | 14:36 |
| mwhudson | but yeah | 14:36 |
| allenap | Is it a replacement for the general queue, or in addition? | 14:36 |
| danilos | ok | 14:36 |
| mwhudson | allenap: addition at the moment | 14:36 |
| flacoste | i asked for a feature that it outputs the thing you can paste on PendingReviews | 14:36 |
| ddaa | allenap: ATM it works best with on-call reviewers | 14:36 |
| mwhudson | flacoste: yeah, i'll try and do that today | 14:37 |
| gmb | kiko: Let me get my bugs work out of the way and I'll make you very happy. In a coding sense. | 14:37 |
| allenap | Cool, I'll give it a go :) | 14:37 |
| mwhudson | flacoste: can you send a mail to remind me? :) | 14:37 |
| kiko | gmb, O K!! | 14:37 |
| flacoste | mwhudson: i will | 14:37 |
| mwhudson | thanks | 14:37 |
| mwhudson | BjornT: enough on this, i think | 14:38 |
| BjornT | ok. so those who haven't tried lpreview yet, please do so until next week | 14:38 |
| BjornT | moving on | 14:38 |
| BjornT | * Blockers | 14:38 |
| BjornT | Bugs team: not blocked | 14:38 |
| flacoste | Foundations Team: Blocked on MailMan setup on staging (RT #29298) | 14:38 |
| jtv | Translations team: not blocked | 14:38 |
| statik | lpcomm team: not blocked | 14:38 |
| kiko | I know I am blocking: bjorn on comment imports and reviewing the bugzilla spec | 14:38 |
| cprov | Soyuz team: not blocked (cprov-only this week) | 14:39 |
| mrevell | Releases team: Not blocked. | 14:39 |
| schwuk | HWDB: No | 14:39 |
| kiko | schwuk and adeuring on some hwdb org updates | 14:39 |
| ddaa | Code team: not blocket | 14:39 |
| kiko | and maybe cprov needs to look over soyuz 1.1.12 final? | 14:39 |
| schwuk | kiko: True, but on the current work, no | 14:39 |
| BjornT | anyone from SC here? | 14:40 |
| kiko | I think they are boycotting this channel <wink> | 14:40 |
| BjornT | ok, except for SC, it should be all | 14:41 |
| cprov | kiko: sure, I'm dealing with the last trivial bugs (some wip will slip for 1.2.1, for sure) | 14:41 |
| BjornT | thanks guys | 14:41 |
| BjornT | MEETING ENDED | 14:41 |
| jtv | BjornT: thanks for running the show again :) | 14:41 |
| kiko | cprov, no problemo. let's chat tonight. | 14:41 |
| mwhudson | BjornT: thanks | 14:41 |
| cprov | kiko: ta | 14:41 |
| kiko | BjornT, you're good at this! but I would like flacoste to run the next one, if he could | 14:41 |
| mrevell | thanks BjornT | 14:41 |
| flacoste | kiko: sure | 14:41 |
| BjornT | kiko: sure, i don't mind someone else doing it :) | 14:42 |
| kiko | thanks francis | 14:42 |
| kiko | you are a good volunteer | 14:42 |
| flacoste | kiko: i'm especially good at being volunteered ;-) | 14:43 |
| kiko | not surprised at that. :) | 14:43 |
| === kiko is now known as kiko-phone | ||
| === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch | ||
| kiko-phone | danilos, you want to get your hostmask fixed, yeah? | 15:06 |
| danilos | kiko-phone: yeah | 15:06 |
| kiko-phone | and you're identified? | 15:06 |
| danilos | kiko-phone: yes | 15:06 |
| kiko-phone | okay. let's get an admin | 15:06 |
| danilos | kiko-phone: basically, "danilo" has mine, and I am "danilos" on freenode :) | 15:06 |
| kiko-phone | oh! | 15:07 |
| danilos | kiko-phone: yeah, tell that to mako who spent some time trying to convince "danilo" how he should remember him :) | 15:08 |
| kiko-phone | lol | 15:08 |
| danilos | kiko-phone: I'll have to go out now, will be back later: do you need me for this? | 15:10 |
| kiko-phone | danilos, I don't think so. I'm still waiting for a response on #freenode | 15:10 |
| danilos | kiko-phone: ok, cool, thanks a lot | 15:11 |
| kiko-phone | thanks to you | 15:11 |
| === kiko-phone is now known as kiko | ||
| === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov | ||
| === cpro1 is now known as cprov | ||
| === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson | ||
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