| Goosemoose | lol, see you guys tomorrow, im heading home | 00:15 |
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| ganu | cjwatson, i am trying to make an cd of live + install of using ubiquity in debian distro | 07:34 |
| ganu | cjwatson, im getting an error while making partition | 07:35 |
| ganu | cjwatson: iam posting my partman and syslog files in "http://pastebin.com/m64fe5f1d ", "http://pastebin.com/m31e19ac" | 07:45 |
| cjwatson | jbailey: upstream already does rdate; that's in hardy (but not in gutsy). Given that, is there any reason to go to more effort to use ntpdate? | 09:18 |
| cjwatson | soren: no, normally I just edit stuff on the fly but you can't do that with netcfg. You'll probably have to shove it in debian-installer/build/localudebs/ and do a local build | 09:19 |
| soren | cjwatson: I see. I'll try that. | 09:36 |
| soren | cjwatson: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu is the one I want? | 09:37 |
| soren | ..because I can't seem to check it out for some reason. | 09:37 |
| kathir | ganu known as kathir | 10:04 |
| kathir | Iam posting my syslog and partman in "http://pastebin.com/m64fe5f1d" , "http://pastebin.com/m31e19ac" | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | soren: that should be right ... | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | kathir: please file a bug, I'm on holiday today | 10:21 |
| kathir | cjwatson: ok thanks | 10:23 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, have a few ones for you... | 10:26 |
| xivulon | umountfs 151579, update-grub 175772, eject-cd 176014, boot-bindmount 173659, autopartition-loop 176019, external-hooks 144798 (new hooks are in lupin/casper) | 10:26 |
| xivulon | all should have patches included, have fun ;P | 10:27 |
| soren | cjwatson: I've pushed my netcfg changes. Do you want to look them over or should I just go ahead and upload? | 11:53 |
| xivulon | What's the place to submit kernel bugs? I'd guess linux-source-2.6.22. What if I want to request a feature (suspend with fuse) for the hardy kernel (2.6.24)? | 12:13 |
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| cjwatson | xivulon: the package name for hardy and beyond is just 'linux' | 12:14 |
| xivulon | ah | 12:14 |
| cjwatson | soren: yeah, that looks correct and is how I'd have done it. One nit: please use "[ Soren Hansen ]" rather than "[Soren Hansen]" as that's how debchange does it. | 12:14 |
| cjwatson | soren: I actually didn't intend my changes to be changelogged, or I'd have added them myself; I think they're too trivial to be worth noting | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | but I don't really care much either way | 12:15 |
| soren | Oh, I didn't know dch did that sort of thing, too. | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | yeah, that's where the meme came from | 12:18 |
| soren | I'll just remove your stuff from the changelog and upload. | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/devscripts/ | 12:18 |
| soren | Oh, I see. | 12:19 |
| soren | cjwatson: Why doesn't netcfg have a standards-version set? | 12:23 |
| cjwatson | udebs don't conform to policy | 12:25 |
| cjwatson | at least not enough of it to make any standards-version not a lie | 12:26 |
| xivulon | cjwatson add 176112 to the list above | 12:26 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: IRC is a dreadful, dreadful way of tracking bugs. Please don't. | 12:27 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: tag them or something | 12:27 |
| xivulon | hmm didn't know about tagging | 12:27 |
| soren | cjwatson: Interesting. debian-installer itself has a standards-version, though. | 12:28 |
| xivulon | is "wubi" good as a tag? | 12:29 |
| xivulon | Is it possible to search bugs only by tag? | 12:39 |
| soren | xivulon: sure. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ | 12:41 |
| soren | xivulon: On the left, you can see a list of tags. | 12:41 |
| soren | xivulon: The list might be collapsed. | 12:41 |
| xivulon | great | 12:42 |
| xivulon | so cjwatson: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=wubi | 12:42 |
| cjwatson | soren: debian-installer builds a .deb | 12:57 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: thanks. not today though (on holiday, despite appearances) | 12:57 |
| xivulon | n.p. | 12:57 |
| xivulon | once those are in, I will be able to clean up lupin-support and the overrides in wubi | 12:58 |
| xivulon | so that I can start testing properly | 12:58 |
| xivulon | enjoy your holiday | 12:58 |
| soren | cjwatson: True, but it also builds that debian-installer-images thing. I've never seen anything quite like that. :) | 13:11 |
| xivulon | dumb question: why are seeds needed if we have metapackages? | 14:49 |
| cjwatson | the metapackages are generated from seeds | 15:06 |
| xivulon | I see | 15:58 |
| xivulon | thx | 15:58 |
| xivulon | I would have expected the opposite, since metapackages are more flexible while seeds are mostly a lit of packages | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | the only relevant feature that seeds don't (yet) have is 'foo | bar'-type dependencies; that could be added if necessary but in practice it hasn't been | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | seeds are in fact much more flexible in that we can generate other things from them, such as tasks, and use them in our archive and CD image process | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | es | 16:19 |
| xivulon | I was under the impression that seeds where merely a list of packages | 16:26 |
| xivulon | Another thing that confuses me is if metapackages are created from seeds, why do seeds contain the generated metapackage? e.g. ubuntu-standard seed also contain ubuntu-standard metapackage http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu.hardy/standard | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | seeds are a bit more than that; there are details in the germinate manual page | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | the metapackage is in the corresponding seed because otherwise the metapackage wouldn't have the right Task header set and we wouldn't be able to use tasks as conveniently during installation | 17:09 |
| jbailey | cjwatson: Ah, fabulous. We've been working with gutsy sources so far because we haven't updated the internal testing builds to Hardy yet. That happens in January. | 17:43 |
| jbailey | cjwatson: I'll hack on that and come back if I need to do more. | 17:44 |
| xivulon | thanks for clarifying that colin | 18:10 |
| CarlFK | bdmurray: can you have a look at my patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/38442/comments/44 | 20:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 38442 in ubiquity "Ubiquity dialogues too large for 800x600 display" [High,Confirmed] | 20:31 |
| Ubotwo | Launchpad bug 38442 in ubiquity "Ubiquity dialogues too large for 800x600 display" [High,Confirmed] | 20:31 |
| bdmurray | CarlFK: did you mean me or evand? | 20:32 |
| CarlFK | oh right.. | 20:32 |
| CarlFK | too many channels - got confused | 20:33 |
| evand | looking | 20:35 |
| * evand glares at the two ubotus | 20:36 | |
| evand | CarlFK: while this would fix the problem, I don't think it's a proper solution. Fixing this bug will involve making it so that a windowed or maximized Ubiquity can fit comfortably. Making the window full screen means that it's not immediately obvious how to launch another application. | 20:39 |
| evand | This is actually targeted already for 8.04 under the ubiquity-usability specification | 20:39 |
| evand | s/already// | 20:39 |
| evand | The fix involves trimming some of the fat of the interface and making it squeeze into the proper size. | 20:40 |
| CarlFK | i 1/2 expected this | 20:40 |
| evand | You're welcome to write said fix, but as the specification is assigned to me, I'll be handling it if you don't. | 20:40 |
| CarlFK | um... what? | 20:41 |
| CarlFK | oh, write the proper fix | 20:41 |
| evand | indeed | 20:41 |
| evand | Thank you for the patch though. While this one wont work, I appreciate any attempt at fixing ubiquity bugs. | 20:42 |
| CarlFK | it gives you an option if 8.04 gets close and are tired of hearing about "not fit" and would rather hear "can run other apps" :) | 20:43 |
| evand | indeed, I'll definitely keep a note of it | 20:46 |
| Goosemoose | so, i added: d-i preseed/late_command string apt-get install ssh | 20:53 |
| Goosemoose | to my preseed file | 20:53 |
| Goosemoose | I get an error when install gets there: Failed to run preseeded command | 20:54 |
| Goosemoose | Execution of presseded command 'apt-get install ssh' failed with exit code 127 | 20:54 |
| Goosemoose | anyone actually have a preseed file they use on 7.10 for an example that asks for no prompts | 20:54 |
| stgraber | Goosemoose: http://www.stgraber.org/download/phoenix/edubuntu.seed | 20:55 |
| evand | Goosemoose: why are you trying to explicitly install the ssh metapackage, rather than using pkgsel/include like in stgraber's example? | 21:02 |
| Goosemoose | haven't seen another way | 21:04 |
| Goosemoose | hmm didn't know about this command: d-ipkgsel/include | 21:05 |
| CarlFK | Goosemoose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet but I can't find the section to tell it to use the first drive | 21:05 |
| Goosemoose | I have the server running apt-cache | 21:05 |
| Goosemoose | will it get edubuntu packages fine too? | 21:06 |
| CarlFK | me too. apt-cache is not the same as a proxy (like I thought) | 21:06 |
| evand | ah, fair enough | 21:06 |
| Goosemoose | i have a proxy setup separately | 21:06 |
| Goosemoose | hmm, this is your file stgraber? | 21:06 |
| Goosemoose | oh nm, was looking for the edubuntu-desktop command, i see it now | 21:07 |
| CarlFK | Goosemoose: my current preseed: http://dpaste.com/27963/ | 21:07 |
| Goosemoose | sweet, going to try this instead of mine right now, i've had nothing but problems with mine | 21:07 |
| Goosemoose | ok, looking | 21:07 |
| Goosemoose | for 7.10 CarlFK? | 21:08 |
| CarlFK | yes | 21:08 |
| Goosemoose | you dont have yours setup to install gusty? | 21:08 |
| Goosemoose | actually, either does stgraber | 21:09 |
| Goosemoose | dont you need: d-i mirror/udeb/suite string gutsy | 21:09 |
| CarlFK | carl@personnelware.com I am getting ready to leave for the day | 21:09 |
| Goosemoose | ok, got it, thanks | 21:09 |
| Goosemoose | these two examples should help. why do neither of you have the d-i mirror/udeb/suite string gutsy | 21:10 |
| Goosemoose | line? | 21:10 |
| Goosemoose | im actually running edubuntu too | 21:10 |
| Goosemoose | why don't you use this: | 22:10 |
| Goosemoose | # Suite to use for loading installer components (optional). | 22:11 |
| Goosemoose | d-i mirror/udeb/suite string gutsy | 22:11 |
| Goosemoose | i must not be understanding the purpose of the line | 22:11 |
| evand | aiui, that's not necessary | 22:13 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 22:14 |
| Goosemoose | stgraber has this in his: | 22:14 |
| Goosemoose | d-i apt-setup/use_mirror false | 22:14 |
| Goosemoose | since i have apt-cache setup i dont want that right? | 22:14 |
| evand | I believe so | 22:15 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 22:21 |
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