[00:15] lol, see you guys tomorrow, im heading home [07:34] cjwatson, i am trying to make an cd of live + install of using ubiquity in debian distro [07:35] cjwatson, im getting an error while making partition [07:45] cjwatson: iam posting my partman and syslog files in "http://pastebin.com/m64fe5f1d ", "http://pastebin.com/m31e19ac" [09:18] jbailey: upstream already does rdate; that's in hardy (but not in gutsy). Given that, is there any reason to go to more effort to use ntpdate? [09:19] soren: no, normally I just edit stuff on the fly but you can't do that with netcfg. You'll probably have to shove it in debian-installer/build/localudebs/ and do a local build [09:36] cjwatson: I see. I'll try that. [09:37] cjwatson: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu is the one I want? [09:37] ..because I can't seem to check it out for some reason. [10:04] ganu known as kathir [10:06] Iam posting my syslog and partman in "http://pastebin.com/m64fe5f1d" , "http://pastebin.com/m31e19ac" [10:21] soren: that should be right ... [10:21] kathir: please file a bug, I'm on holiday today [10:23] cjwatson: ok thanks [10:26] cjwatson, have a few ones for you... [10:26] umountfs 151579, update-grub 175772, eject-cd 176014, boot-bindmount 173659, autopartition-loop 176019, external-hooks 144798 (new hooks are in lupin/casper) [10:27] all should have patches included, have fun ;P [11:53] cjwatson: I've pushed my netcfg changes. Do you want to look them over or should I just go ahead and upload? [12:13] What's the place to submit kernel bugs? I'd guess linux-source-2.6.22. What if I want to request a feature (suspend with fuse) for the hardy kernel (2.6.24)? === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [12:14] xivulon: the package name for hardy and beyond is just 'linux' [12:14] ah [12:14] soren: yeah, that looks correct and is how I'd have done it. One nit: please use "[ Soren Hansen ]" rather than "[Soren Hansen]" as that's how debchange does it. [12:15] soren: I actually didn't intend my changes to be changelogged, or I'd have added them myself; I think they're too trivial to be worth noting [12:15] but I don't really care much either way [12:17] Oh, I didn't know dch did that sort of thing, too. [12:18] yeah, that's where the meme came from [12:18] I'll just remove your stuff from the changelog and upload. [12:18] http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/devscripts/ [12:19] Oh, I see. [12:23] cjwatson: Why doesn't netcfg have a standards-version set? [12:25] udebs don't conform to policy [12:26] at least not enough of it to make any standards-version not a lie [12:26] cjwatson add 176112 to the list above [12:27] xivulon: IRC is a dreadful, dreadful way of tracking bugs. Please don't. [12:27] xivulon: tag them or something [12:27] hmm didn't know about tagging [12:28] cjwatson: Interesting. debian-installer itself has a standards-version, though. [12:29] is "wubi" good as a tag? [12:39] Is it possible to search bugs only by tag? [12:41] xivulon: sure. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ [12:41] xivulon: On the left, you can see a list of tags. [12:41] xivulon: The list might be collapsed. [12:42] great [12:42] so cjwatson: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=wubi [12:57] soren: debian-installer builds a .deb [12:57] xivulon: thanks. not today though (on holiday, despite appearances) [12:57] n.p. [12:58] once those are in, I will be able to clean up lupin-support and the overrides in wubi [12:58] so that I can start testing properly [12:58] enjoy your holiday [13:11] cjwatson: True, but it also builds that debian-installer-images thing. I've never seen anything quite like that. :) [14:49] dumb question: why are seeds needed if we have metapackages? [15:06] the metapackages are generated from seeds [15:58] I see [15:58] thx [16:00] I would have expected the opposite, since metapackages are more flexible while seeds are mostly a lit of packages [16:18] the only relevant feature that seeds don't (yet) have is 'foo | bar'-type dependencies; that could be added if necessary but in practice it hasn't been [16:19] seeds are in fact much more flexible in that we can generate other things from them, such as tasks, and use them in our archive and CD image process [16:19] es [16:26] I was under the impression that seeds where merely a list of packages [16:31] Another thing that confuses me is if metapackages are created from seeds, why do seeds contain the generated metapackage? e.g. ubuntu-standard seed also contain ubuntu-standard metapackage http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu.hardy/standard [17:08] seeds are a bit more than that; there are details in the germinate manual page [17:09] the metapackage is in the corresponding seed because otherwise the metapackage wouldn't have the right Task header set and we wouldn't be able to use tasks as conveniently during installation [17:43] cjwatson: Ah, fabulous. We've been working with gutsy sources so far because we haven't updated the internal testing builds to Hardy yet. That happens in January. [17:44] cjwatson: I'll hack on that and come back if I need to do more. [18:10] thanks for clarifying that colin [20:31] bdmurray: can you have a look at my patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/38442/comments/44 [20:31] Launchpad bug 38442 in ubiquity "Ubiquity dialogues too large for 800x600 display" [High,Confirmed] [20:31] Launchpad bug 38442 in ubiquity "Ubiquity dialogues too large for 800x600 display" [High,Confirmed] [20:32] CarlFK: did you mean me or evand? [20:32] oh right.. [20:33] too many channels - got confused [20:35] looking [20:36] * evand glares at the two ubotus [20:39] CarlFK: while this would fix the problem, I don't think it's a proper solution. Fixing this bug will involve making it so that a windowed or maximized Ubiquity can fit comfortably. Making the window full screen means that it's not immediately obvious how to launch another application. [20:39] This is actually targeted already for 8.04 under the ubiquity-usability specification [20:39] s/already// [20:40] The fix involves trimming some of the fat of the interface and making it squeeze into the proper size. [20:40] i 1/2 expected this [20:40] You're welcome to write said fix, but as the specification is assigned to me, I'll be handling it if you don't. [20:41] um... what? [20:41] oh, write the proper fix [20:41] indeed [20:42] Thank you for the patch though. While this one wont work, I appreciate any attempt at fixing ubiquity bugs. [20:43] it gives you an option if 8.04 gets close and are tired of hearing about "not fit" and would rather hear "can run other apps" :) [20:46] indeed, I'll definitely keep a note of it [20:53] so, i added: d-i preseed/late_command string apt-get install ssh [20:53] to my preseed file [20:54] I get an error when install gets there: Failed to run preseeded command [20:54] Execution of presseded command 'apt-get install ssh' failed with exit code 127 [20:54] anyone actually have a preseed file they use on 7.10 for an example that asks for no prompts [20:55] Goosemoose: http://www.stgraber.org/download/phoenix/edubuntu.seed [21:02] Goosemoose: why are you trying to explicitly install the ssh metapackage, rather than using pkgsel/include like in stgraber's example? [21:04] haven't seen another way [21:05] hmm didn't know about this command: d-i pkgsel/include [21:05] Goosemoose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet but I can't find the section to tell it to use the first drive [21:05] I have the server running apt-cache [21:06] will it get edubuntu packages fine too? [21:06] me too. apt-cache is not the same as a proxy (like I thought) [21:06] ah, fair enough [21:06] i have a proxy setup separately [21:06] hmm, this is your file stgraber? [21:07] oh nm, was looking for the edubuntu-desktop command, i see it now [21:07] Goosemoose: my current preseed: http://dpaste.com/27963/ [21:07] sweet, going to try this instead of mine right now, i've had nothing but problems with mine [21:07] ok, looking [21:08] for 7.10 CarlFK? [21:08] yes [21:08] you dont have yours setup to install gusty? [21:09] actually, either does stgraber [21:09] dont you need: d-i mirror/udeb/suite string gutsy [21:09] carl@personnelware.com I am getting ready to leave for the day [21:09] ok, got it, thanks [21:10] these two examples should help. why do neither of you have the d-i mirror/udeb/suite string gutsy [21:10] line? [21:10] im actually running edubuntu too [22:10] why don't you use this: [22:11] # Suite to use for loading installer components (optional). [22:11] d-i mirror/udeb/suite string gutsy [22:11] i must not be understanding the purpose of the line [22:13] aiui, that's not necessary [22:14] ok [22:14] stgraber has this in his: [22:14] d-i apt-setup/use_mirror false [22:14] since i have apt-cache setup i dont want that right? [22:15] I believe so [22:21] ok