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* Gary managed to not make any comment then, woo00:01
Tm_TGary: ?00:01
stdinnalioth, I almost forgot. can you increase my channel limit? pretty please :)00:01
Garyover stdin's comment :-)00:01
Tm_TGary: do it now00:02
Garyokay, I think men can look better when their clothes are in a heap on my floor00:02
Tm_TI see00:02
Garysee, totally inappropriate00:02
Tm_Tnah00:03
Tm_Tmore like, I never found "man body" any good looking00:03
Garyahh, you've never met me00:03
Tm_Tmaybe I have seen wrong bodies but, doh00:03
Tm_TGary: exactly00:03
Tm_Tmaybe that's why I don't have children of my own00:04
naliothstdin: you run out of channels you don't care about already?00:04
Garyblimey, it's past midnight, eek00:04
Tm_Tway past here00:04
GaryI gotta get up at 6:45am tomorrow (today)00:05
stdinnalioth: I've run out of channel I don't want to be in. and I'm an couple support channels too00:05
stdins/couple/few00:05
Tm_T0545, Gary, that's less than 4 hours00:05
Tm_Tstdin: you never beat me or Riddell in channelcount I believe00:06
GaryI'm only in ten00:06
stdinTm_T: I would never try :p00:06
stdinI keep to only one network too00:07
Garyyeah, none of that dodgy network stuff for me00:07
Tm_Tstdin: I have my "reduced low" and it's only 40 now, 60 being normal and 70 high00:07
stdinI'm stuck at 2000:08
Tm_Tstdin: 2 networks now00:08
naliothstdin: i suspect you're stuck in ignorance00:08
stdinnalioth: heh, yeah I just checked00:08
* stdin is no longer stuck at 2000:09
Tm_Tnalioth: about cloak combinations, impossible?00:09
Garypossible, whois welp for an example00:11
naliothcloak combination?00:11
nalioth4l-34r-22l-OPEN00:11
Tm_Tnalioth: my current KDE cloak and Ubuntu cloak00:11
Gary welp@gentoo/developer/colchester-lug.member.welp00:11
Tm_Tuuh00:11
LjLno, closed00:12
Tm_TLjL: the fellow from few hours back ranting about bullying?00:12
LjLTm_T: nah, just the random numbers nalioth said00:12
Tm_Tmmmh00:13
GaryTm_T@ubuntu/member/kde.developer.Tm_T - is that what you mean Tm_T ?00:13
Tm_Talmost, s/Tm_T/jkekkonen00:14
Tm_Tas in KDE cloak should be same as svn account00:14
PriceChildHas ubuntuforums.org gone for you?00:17
LjLhm? it's up00:17
GaryPriceChild, slow00:18
=== crdlb_ is now known as crdlb
no0ticchanserv replies as it was on venus01:02
juano__is this syntax correct to make ubotu pm a certain person in #ubuntu?  :   i.e.:  !alsa > annie  (see private message from ubotu) ?01:05
somerville32!hi > juano__   (did it work?)01:08
juano__somerville32: yes :) thanks01:09
naliothany developers around here?02:23
naliothand awake?02:23
Tm_Tdepends02:23
jdongDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!02:23
jdonglol02:23
Tm_Tjdong: :(02:23
PriceChildjdong's a real developer now!02:23
jdongsorry, obligatory02:23
jdongPriceChild: hey I'm going to study! don't drag me into your bloody messes!02:23
Tm_Tjdong: no, it's not02:23
naliothwhy can't we do something like this?  http://goodbye-microsoft.com/02:23
PriceChildjdong, no-one says no to nalioth.02:23
naliothi'd liketo collaborate on this project for the Ubuntu side02:24
PriceChildnalioth, debian.exe?02:24
Tm_Tnalioth: have you poked #ubuntu-marketing ?02:24
PriceChildkinda like what's it called... wubi?02:24
PriceChildWhat's up Paddy_EIRE?02:24
naliothwubi?02:24
PriceChild!wubi02:24
ubotuwubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html02:24
PriceChilddid you mean the site? Or the downloadable windows .exe?02:25
naliothhmm02:25
Tm_Thmmm02:25
PriceChildhmmmm02:25
Picihmmmmmm02:25
PriceChildPici, you ruined it!02:25
naliothi searched for all manner of things for installing debian on an old machine02:25
naliothwubi didn't come up at all02:25
Tm_Tnalioth: you distracted me, what I was doing... :o02:25
Paddy_EIREPriceChild, very nasty day.... and I'm not very sorry although I know I should be X(02:25
PriceChildnalioth, I'm totally confused what it is you're suggesting "we" as in ubuntu should do?02:26
Paddy_EIREPriceChild, wrongness should not be tolerated02:26
naliothPriceChild: nothing.02:26
naliothi'll grab the source and mangle it myself  :|02:26
Paddy_EIREalthough give me about 10-15 minutes or so02:26
Tm_T:(02:26
PriceChild:s02:26
PriceChildPaddy_EIRE, sorry I'm not following  :)02:27
Paddy_EIRE:)02:27
Paddy_EIREnm02:27
Paddy_EIREyer a good person at least02:27
Paddy_EIREbrb02:27
naliothand no, wubi is totally unlike 'goodbye-microsoft.com'02:27
PriceChildWhat was that aboug?02:27
naliothwhich is probably why wubi did not come up in my searches02:27
PriceChildnalioth, so what does that debian.exe do?02:28
naliothit gathers a few bits of info and downloads an initr.gz(sp), adds an entry into the ntldr and allows you to install debian completely over the network02:28
naliothno PXE booting02:28
naliothno arcane changing of config files02:28
naliothjust a simple exe02:29
PriceChildIsn't that what wubi does? :/02:29
naliothno02:29
PriceChildwell a little different02:29
PriceChilddoesn't destroy windows02:29
naliothfrom the description of wubi, it runs ubuntu out of a windows folder02:29
nalioththis completely installs debian on a seperate partition and everything02:29
PriceChildyeah02:29
* Pici scratches his head @ paddy_eire02:29
PriceChildwheras wubi fakes a hard drive in an existing partition02:29
naliothright02:30
PriceChildboth routes with benefits02:30
naliothi would like to collaborate with someone on an Ubuntu version of the debian.exe02:31
naliothi have ideas to make it "more user friendly"02:31
somerville32nalioth, file a bug02:36
naliothfile a bug on what? a debian package?02:36
somerville32nalioth, Yes. :]02:40
naliothso how much trouble is it to upgrade to gutsy from etch?04:11
Tm_Thi Kagar how can we help you?04:20
Tm_Tnalioth: no idea :(04:21
KagarI was told to see PriceChild04:21
PriceChildKagar, just reading up on the ban04:21
Kagaraye, I had posted some lyrics that were o4o -- described some drugs..04:21
tritiumPriceChild: quick draw04:22
KagarI was going to stop -- but I had already pressed enter before I was told not too, then banned.04:22
PriceChildtritium, hehe04:22
tonyyarussonot the first time though, apparently04:22
Kagar:\ true..04:22
PriceChildHmmm bantracker refers to an earlier incident...04:23
Kagarthe 4chan thing wasn't my fault..04:24
PriceChildI wasn't talking about a 4chan thing...04:24
Kagareither was i04:24
Kagar*shifty eyes*04:24
PriceChild"Why?"04:25
Kagarhmm04:26
KagarI dunno04:27
PriceChildOh go on there must have been a reason...04:27
Kagarwhy to which04:27
PriceChildno-one just goes and posts stuff in a channel....04:27
Kagarwhich one am I saying why to ?04:28
PriceChildthe "song" you were pasting it04:28
PriceChild*in04:28
KagarI was hyper and it was playing and one thing led to another04:29
PriceChildPasting song lyrics in channel is bad enough..... those lyrics especially so. Agreed?04:30
Kagaryeah04:31
Kagareh, well, I appreciate the "hearing" -- but I'm dealing with some stuff right now.. I'll return some other time.. or I dunno.04:32
Tm_The's not really interested about the issue04:33
Tm_TI'd say forget it until he really asks for it04:33
PriceChildI'd prefer to ask Ljl first anyway.04:33
Tm_Tthat too04:33
tonyyarussohmmm, how do I list all channels on the server matching a regex?04:35
nalioth  /msg chanserv list *term*04:36
tonyyarussohmm, not working04:37
tonyyarussoTrying to find all Drupal channels, btw.04:37
tonyyarussoGetting no results.04:37
naliothi've got 71 results04:37
nalioth   /cs list *drupal*04:37
tonyyarussoah, needed the wildcards04:37
tonyyarusso*term* was literal - missed that04:38
* nalioth sets a pack of ravenous wildcards loose on tonyyarusso 04:38
Kagarblargh, sorry for being a butt and leaving --04:43
Tm_Tmmh04:44
KagarLjL -- may I ask how long my ban was set for?04:44
Tm_TI'd say that's perfect answer from PC04:44
Kagaryeah. seems like everyone is leaving me today04:45
Tm_TMyrtti: :)05:16
* jussio1 waves07:49
Gary<gradin> - his language is appalling...08:51
Tm_Thmmmm11:03
Tm_Tother #kubuntu idlers here?11:03
Tm_Tjust like to have opinion about this Galore11:03
=== GazzaK is now known as Gary
Tm_Tjussio1: show it!11:11
jussio1Tm_T: ahh now... Im shy...11:12
Tm_Tnaah you have none11:12
Tm_Tjust fooled me11:12
jussio1hehe11:13
Gary Goatz has quit ("sleep() Gary hates me") - so tempting to place a ban on him11:20
Tm_Tnaaah11:21
Tm_Tit's not fair nor fun11:21
Garywell I know that11:21
elkbuntuTm_T, goatz is a PITA generally11:21
Garywell it is kinda fun11:21
Tm_Telkbuntu: sorry, don't know him, but I can guess11:22
Garywell the nick give it away really11:22
GaryI've just had to do a AUP/computer use policy for my work, arghh, why do a few have to spoil it for the rest of us11:23
DavieyGary: What happend to make it needed?11:37
Garysome idiot thought it was a great idea to install pirated games and stuff11:40
GaryI'm trying to walk the fine line in making them support the AUP, but not going down tying the machines down so users cannot do anything11:40
elkbuntuGary, surefire way to minimise that is to use linux :Þ11:41
Garyelkbuntu, well dur :p11:41
elkbuntusee, another + for linux :D11:41
ardchoilleI need to poke someone for voice in this chanel.11:44
Tm_Thmm11:44
Hobbseewhy?11:44
Tm_T#kubuntu op11:45
ardchoilleI just thought that since I'm now an op in #kubuntu..11:45
Tm_Tthough, was that enough?11:45
Tm_Thmm, no11:45
Tm_Tardchoille: ubuntu-irc team atleast should be11:45
ardchoilleSo I need to join ubuntu-irc team11:46
stdinhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc11:46
Tm_Tardchoille: :)11:46
Tm_Tardchoille: enthusiasm <311:46
Tm_Tfresh energy that is11:47
Tm_T(to be burned by trolls and alike)11:47
* Tm_T hides11:47
Hobbseeardchoille: since when were you a kubuntu op, btw?11:47
* Hobbsee seems to have no memory of this11:47
ardchoilleHobbsee: 48 minutes ago11:48
Tm_THobbsee: our newest member, and op11:48
ardchoilleTm_T: Joined ubuntu-irc team :)11:48
Tm_Tyay!11:49
Hobbseeoh11:49
Tm_Tardchoille: btw see our steamhead talking relaxed ;)11:49
ardchoilleTm_T: Reading :)11:50
Garyhopefully one day i'll be approved for that team :p12:08
jussi01hello PriceChild :D13:37
PriceChildhi13:42
PriceChildcrap.... approved someone I shouldn't have13:47
ardchoillePriceChild: I was just going to say thank you for the approval13:47
PriceChildsorry ardchoille... misread it thinking you hadn't yet been added to the ubuntu-irc-cloaks group13:48
ardchoillePriceChild: Do I need to join ubuntu-irc-cloaks group?13:48
PriceChildWell you have an ubuntu/member cloak so you should have been added by us13:49
ardchoilleok13:49
ardchoillePriceChild: So I don't need to be on the ubuntu-irc team?13:49
PriceChildDid you read the description/know what the team is?13:50
PriceChildSorry I've got to run to a lecture13:50
jussi01PriceChild: ardchoille and i were added as #kubuntu ops today13:50
PriceChildah were you?13:51
ardchoillePriceChild: I am an op for #kubuntu13:51
ardchoilleRiddell added us13:51
PriceChildwell it still needs a "council" approval... and that's given after watching you for a few months etc. etc.13:51
ardchoilleAh, ok13:51
PriceChildubuntu-irc is meant as a group of people we trust, and would reccomend to others as channel ops if they're short...13:52
PriceChildI don't think any of us know you yet ;)13:52
ardchoilleGod point13:52
ardchoille*Good13:52
Garydo you know me? :-)13:55
jussi01Gary: we know you....13:57
Hobbseemmm...feel the lag...13:58
jussi01hehe13:58
Gary:'(13:58
Myrttioh my13:59
Myrttimy channels are multiplying again13:59
jussi01Myrtti: you need to keep the boys away from the girls...14:01
MyrttiI've got only boy channels nowadays14:02
Garyme too :p14:02
Myrttiused to be on several girlie channels back in the day, but I've drifted too far to geekdom and silly talks about yarn, relationships, food and clothes with just a hint of horde / postfix / html -guruing don't hit the spot anymore14:03
MyrttiI need better stuff14:03
ikoniaMmmmm girlie girls14:13
* Hobbsee cracks the whip in ikonia's direction14:16
ikoniaHmmmmm hard girlies14:16
Hobbseeyeah, but they'll never sleep with you, so you're wasting your time there...14:17
ikoniame specificly, or in general14:17
Hobbseeyou specifically.  although i wonder what you're meaning there by "in general"14:18
ikoniaas in they won't sleep with "men" in general14:18
ikoniawhy me specificly, I could be a hottie for all you know14:18
ikonia(I'm not) but I could be14:19
jack_Guys.. just wanted to say I am logged in twice from the same ip to try and setup another machine...  NOt trying to slip one past anyone..  Morning ikonia...  Sparrow here14:25
Tm_Thmmm14:26
jack_Morning jrib14:41
jribmorning14:42
LjLTHE FOLLOWING IS A TEST14:42
jribwhat is 2+2?14:43
jack_Depends.. Are we the Government or real life?14:43
jribha14:44
LjLok, no test14:44
jack_Did you see my problem with the fresh install I am working on?  Clicking link brings up calendar and not firefox?14:44
* Hobbsee twiddles thumbs14:47
Hobbseeer, what were wii's aliases?14:52
Hobbseemore to the point, is genii one of them?14:52
jack_Verified.. there is a prob with the installation of sunbird.. (I used synaptic) Problem went away after I removed Sunbird...14:52
Tm_THobbsee: genii is definately known to be a good guy, totally different than wii/mii/nicio etc14:54
Hobbseeoh, it was nicio14:54
Hobbseei thought there was a nick starting with g14:54
mc44Hobbsee: no genii is someone else who is entirely sane :)14:54
Hobbseejack_: btw, it only starts looking suspicious from 3+14:54
Hobbseejack_: because people log, etc14:54
Hobbseemc44: ah, good.14:54
jack_np.. just wanted to be upfront about it14:54
Garyand you might have a mutli-geek household14:55
jack_Should I file a bug on Sunbird installation?14:55
=== Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee
Hobbseemneptok: you're strange ;P15:23
PiciIs this news?15:23
Hobbseeno, just reading the backlog15:24
* Pici scrolls15:24
Hobbseemneptok: not into dead squirrels then?  whyever not?15:25
Garymy boyfriends been writing articles - http://www.helium.com/tm/746290/there-horror-stories-about15:40
GaryI'm so proud of him :p15:40
ubotuIn ubotu, jussi01 said: !ntfs-3g is preinstalled from Feisty onwards. If you run an older version of ubuntu, installation instuctions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:14
jussi01!ntfs-3g16:14
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:14
jussi01what do people think?16:14
* jussi01 -> sauna16:15
Myrtti!ntfs16:35
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE16:35
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu ()16:38
Piciinteresting masks mez16:39
MezPici, :D16:41
PiciMez: you set 3 bans on that person16:42
MezPici, so ?16:42
PiciSeems a bit overkill.16:43
Mezhe wont come back though16:43
Mezlol16:43
* Pici shrugs16:44
jussi01hmmm.. is flash still broken?16:52
jussi01If not, it would be good to get rid of the bit about it in /topic in #ubuntu.16:52
jdongjussi01: I understand it's in backports, on its way into -updates16:53
jdongjussi01: so very much in progress16:53
jussi01jdong: ahh, great16:53
PriceChildjdong, I got the update today I think16:58
ikoniaits available16:59
ikoniaI finsihed testing and reported back to brandon16:59
ikoniathe !flash-issue factoid and topic can be changed back16:59
ikoniaapologise I should have said earlier today16:59
ikoniaits fine on 6.06 6.10 7.04 and 7.1016:59
* jussi01 hugs ikonia ! great!17:00
ikoniaIt's not in the public repo though yet17:00
ikoniastill in proposed17:00
ikoniabut I expect it to be moved quick17:00
PriceChildis it just in -proposed?17:00
ikoniayes17:00
PriceChildhehe i'm too slow17:00
jussi01ikonia: do you need people to test it from proposed?17:00
ikoniano no17:00
ikoniaI hould have said earlier17:00
ikoniashould17:00
ikoniajussi01: people are welcome to17:00
ikoniaI completed it earlier, but the more the merrier17:01
ikoniaapologies for the slow response17:01
jussi01:)17:01
ikoniathat was poor on my part17:01
Mez!flashissue17:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:01
Mez!flash-issue17:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash-issue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:02
Mez!search flash17:02
ubotuFound: flash 9, gnash, flash64, fffc, flash, flashissues, flash64bit, flash9, flashplayer, font17:02
Mez!flashissues17:02
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is on its way17:02
Mez!flashissues =~ s/on its way/in -proposed/17:02
ubotuI'll remember that Mez17:02
Mez!flashissues ~= s/on its way/in -proposed/17:02
Mez!flashissues17:02
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is in -proposed17:02
jussi01:)17:03
ikoniajust mailed to request it be moved to main17:03
ikoniaalong with my test results17:03
jdongPriceChild: it's in -proposed17:38
jdongurgh already answered never mind17:38
ikonia;)17:39
ubotuIn #kubuntu-offtopic, h3sp4wn said: ubotu: This is !offtopic I think you should get some decent software18:01
PriceChildnalioth, can you remove <LeTechito> from #kubuntu-offtopic please?18:09
ubotuIn #kubuntu-offtopic, h3sp4wn said: Ubotu doesn't that is what sucks18:13
stdin*sigh* he's at it again18:16
PriceChildGothfunc, can I help?19:18
PriceChildKagar, can I help?19:18
Myrttiagain automatix20:22
MyrttiI can't believe people are STILL using it20:22
tonyyarussoyeah, I just read a Gutsy-oriented article that used it...20:23
PriceChildI saw a backup program on the forums the other day20:23
pieisgood4589Hi. Quick question-20:23
PriceChildsimple gui, comes up with about 10 options20:23
PriceChild*will continue in a moment*20:23
pieisgood4589How long do banns last?20:23
PriceChild"as long as they need to"20:23
pieisgood4589OK20:23
pieisgood4589wow.20:24
pieisgood4589what's the time a ban should take place if I said "lets play pong?"20:24
PriceChildI don't see why that would mean a ban20:24
pieisgood4589I don't know why but I was banned for saying that20:24
PriceChildwhat channel are we talking about? We're talking about you?20:24
pieisgood4589#ubuntu20:24
pieisgood4589Yes20:24
pieisgood4589I was banned for saying "lets play pong20:24
PriceChildWell for starters it seems offtopic20:25
pieisgood4589Oh...20:25
* PriceChild looks up the ban20:25
PriceChild!offtopic20:27
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!20:27
PriceChild!guidelines20:27
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines20:27
pieisgood4589Ok20:27
pieisgood4589Thank you.20:28
PriceChildFor what?20:28
PriceChildping ompaul20:28
PriceChildRead those two please pieisgood4589, and remind me of the purpose of #ubuntu20:28
pieisgood4589Why?20:28
pieisgood4589Ok20:29
PriceChild(the "ping" wasn't directed at you sorry)20:29
pieisgood4589Oh...20:29
tonyyarussoah, the subleties of "ping PriceChild" vs "PriceChild: ping"20:29
pieisgood4589Haha20:29
pieisgood4589ping ompaul20:30
PriceChildindeed, I should know better20:30
pieisgood4589ompaul: ping20:30
pieisgood4589ompaul:ping20:30
PriceChildpieisgood4589, what are you doing? Why do you need him?20:30
PriceChildPLEASE stop pinging him...20:30
pieisgood4589I don't20:30
pieisgood4589I'm just trying it out20:30
pieisgood4589What does it do?20:30
PriceChildthe same as when i do this pieisgood458920:31
pieisgood4589Ok...20:31
pieisgood4589Do what20:31
PriceChildpardon?20:32
pieisgood4589Never mind.20:32
pieisgood4589How long will my ban last?20:32
pieisgood4589Can you tell?20:32
Myrtti*sigh*20:33
Myrtti15mins added everytime you ask ;-)20:33
pieisgood4589Oh...20:33
Myrttithe ban will be released when it's due20:34
pieisgood4589Ok.20:34
ptwjenda: hi, can you help me sequester a nick20:34
ptwcan anyone help me take over an unused nick?20:35
javaJakeptw, #freenode would be better for that if you're talking about IRC nicks20:36
javaJakeAnyone able to remove the past conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic from the logs?20:36
javaJakeI'm not worried about too much, just don't like my personal trials broadcasted for infinity on the 'net20:36
jendaptw: here me is :)20:38
javaJakeNvm, #ubuntu-offtopic isn't logged. :P20:39
PriceChildgah at pieisgood going... :/20:39
jendaptw: seems like you've already had it your way ;)20:41
ptwjenda: someone just set me up in #freenode20:41
jendaptw: :)20:41
ptwjenda: but the link he sent me to continue the process doesn't work20:42
jdongsomeone set us up the cloak!20:43
jdongXD sorry obligatory :D20:44
PriceChildjdong, wha?!20:52
* jussi01 -> bed :D nite all.21:00
* jussi01 throws a snowball at jdong as he walks out :P21:00
LjL*wasn't* logged... *g*21:21
tonyyarussohaha21:22
LjLsomeone have a clue what the hell kahrytan is doing in #ubuntu now?21:54
Myrttilooks like helping?21:56
Tm_Twasn't he banned?21:56
LjLno, just from -offtopic21:56
LjLi was wondering why he called !o4o21:56
Tm_Thmmm21:57
Tm_TI see21:57
Myrttimust've done it in error or like21:57
Myrttilet it pass21:57
Tm_TI agree21:58
Myrtti/me likes the idea of giving people some slack22:02
jdongslack is good, but Ubuntu has better package management :)22:02
naliothyes, me too, Myrtti.22:02
KagarLjL -- am I banned still?22:25
=== ikonia_ is now known as ikonia
LjLyes Kagar, i think it will be a little longer than this22:35
KagarIts been like 8 days now. :(22:44
Kagarnot really. more like 4 or 522:44
mneptokKagar: i looked at the ban after some other users remarked that they missed you.22:44
Kagarbut all right.. do you have an estimate?22:44
Kagarmm, it's nice to know that I'm loved.22:44
mneptokKagar: you've been banned multiple times, often for the same, unthinking, stupig type comments.22:44
Kagareven if I'm a butt22:44
Kagareh, yeah.22:45
mneptokKagar: i just wonder why you'd make the same dumb mistakes in channels where you're obviously wanted.22:45
mneptokno disrespect. just sayin' ...22:45
mneptok*shrug*22:45
KagarI dunno, I'm just not used to moderators... So it's been an adjustment for me.. but seriously, I think I've gotten better than if there were zero moderators..22:46
mneptoksomething to think about as LjL has his "i wonder if this guy has learned anything yet" inner monologue.22:46
mneptokbut what do i know. i'm basically a trained baboon.22:46
mneptok"ook ook"22:46
Kagarheh22:46
LjLKagar, estimate is month22:47
Kagaraeuurgghh22:47
Kagar-_-22:47
Kagarall right. I will return in one month...22:47
KagarIt'll allow me to work on some scholarship stuff.22:49
somerville32Kagar, You can always check out the other channels :)22:50
Kagaryeah, ut I don't know about the other channels -- somerville3222:57
Kagarmost look lame or in other languages.22:58
Kagarbut that's my personal opinion -- but I guess I can always quest.22:58
ikoniamneptok: is that the offical noise of a baboon23:02
mneptokikonia: the standards body has yet to enact it, but it has been proposed.23:08
ikoniaI'll wait for it to become main23:08
ikoniaguys, little help please, UBUNTUSOLVED in #ubuntu trolling, giving out nonsense answer and bad advice on purpose23:34
ikonia%150 troll23:34
ikoniahelp please.23:34
ikonianalioth: thank you23:35
ikoniafedup of kbrooks talking crap and offering people nosense for advice23:40
Jack_SparrowIt is no wonder I drink...23:42
ikoniahe ALWAYS does it23:42
ikoniait's not fair on people23:42
ikoniahad enough of it with him now23:42
Jack_SparrowLjL: already dropped23:42
LjLikonia: and for that matter, you used to be a serial RTFMer... :P anyway, paste the bad advice in here rather than arguing - if there should be arguing, better to bring it in here than #ubuntu23:43
ikoniatotally23:44
ikoniaRTM'er ?23:44
ikoniaI still advise people to read the manual23:44
LjLthere's nothing wrong with that in itself23:44
LjLubuntuisloved coming23:44
LjL(probably)23:44
LjLlucian, how can we help you?23:45
no0ticikonia, You teach fishing not give freash fishes to anyone :)23:47
* LjL slaps no0tic with a trout that's definitely not fresh23:48
no0tic*fresh, sorry23:48
ikoniaI will give help, I just don't like people who just want the answer now now now, with no effort for no reason23:48
ikoniaif someones strugglging no problem23:48
* no0tic too23:48
ikoniabut "I need this now, because I do, and can't be bothered to read"23:48
ikoniaI'll always just point them at the manual23:48
Jack_SparrowAgreed, it is nice to see tham make some effort in solving the problem23:49
ikonia(not alway, but general rule of thumb)23:49
ikoniaif they have made the effort to find the channel, then they can at least have a little look for the answer, somewhere23:49
LjLikonia, reasonable in theory, but when you overdo it for a while, there is a risk of starting to *assume* that the guy didn't even try to read a thing... while they really might have been reading, but the wrong things. and i'm of the opinion that one should always *point* at the relevant manual, and make sure that the information *is* there directly (and if it's there indirectly, explain what's the indirectly relevant information to look for)23:50
no0ticikonia, in the italian they excuse theirselves telling us they don't know english..23:50
LjLanyway, i didn't mean to criticize your *current* approach really.23:50
ikoniaLjL: %100 agree with that23:51
ikoniaLjL: critisim is always welcome23:51
ikoniawell, mostly23:51
ikoniano0tic: thats a fair point, cross-language stuff is hard23:51
no0ticLjL, after a while you spot easily who hasn't read anything at all23:51
LjLno0tic: or you just *think* you do. that's, imho, the mistake to be careful of23:51
LjLanyway23:52
ikoniaLjL: yes, that is a fine line23:52
LjLubuntuisloved: hi, how can we help you?23:52
ikoniaapologies I didn't see ubuntuisloved enter23:52
ubuntuislovedi guess im under the impression that your mod's cannot handle thier powers correctly and I was thrown off a channel without a chance to explain anything23:53
LjLubuntuisloved, i think you were warning, and as a response you told the person who warned you to stop23:53
LjLs/warning/warned/23:53
ubuntuislovedi told them to stop harrasing me yes as they stated i was not helping the user although if they read my post i said use apt-get install *** etc...23:54
ubuntuislovedif a ubuntu mod cannot understand that im helping them with a question by telling them what to install we really need to rethink how we give powers out23:55
ubuntuislovedwhat specifically is s/warning/warned ?23:56
LjLubuntuisloved: i meant to say that my typing "warning" was a typo, and i intended to type "warned" instead23:57
ubuntuislovedohh23:57
ubuntuislovedi told them to not harrass me is this against the irc rules ?23:57
ubuntuislovedi didnt realize its ok for mod's to harrass users23:57
LjLubuntuisloved, uhm, well it's offtopic i guess... but the point is that you were warned about (perceived?) bad behavior, and instead of replying logically you clearly stated you'd ignore the warning23:58
naliothubuntuisloved: a 'warning' is not harassment23:58
ubuntuislovedwell how many mods are there handling the channel #ubuntu ?23:59
LjLa few23:59
PriceChildubuntuisloved, You were trolling #ubuntu with nonsense. Neither answering specific questions, nor asking your own. Just gibberish.23:59
ubuntuislovedyour telling me that out of all the mod's on that channel all of them can't read that i was telling the user how to install a program23:59
naliothubuntuisloved: we all have logs here.23:59
LjL(and they're called "operators" or "ops" on IRC, the terms are different from forums and such)23:59

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