[00:01]  * Gary managed to not make any comment then, woo
[00:01] <Tm_T> Gary: ?
[00:01] <stdin> nalioth, I almost forgot. can you increase my channel limit? pretty please :)
[00:01] <Gary> over stdin's comment :-)
[00:02] <Tm_T> Gary: do it now
[00:02] <Gary> okay, I think men can look better when their clothes are in a heap on my floor
[00:02] <Tm_T> I see
[00:02] <Gary> see, totally inappropriate
[00:03] <Tm_T> nah
[00:03] <Tm_T> more like, I never found "man body" any good looking
[00:03] <Gary> ahh, you've never met me
[00:03] <Tm_T> maybe I have seen wrong bodies but, doh
[00:03] <Tm_T> Gary: exactly
[00:04] <Tm_T> maybe that's why I don't have children of my own
[00:04] <nalioth> stdin: you run out of channels you don't care about already?
[00:04] <Gary> blimey, it's past midnight, eek
[00:04] <Tm_T> way past here
[00:05] <Gary> I gotta get up at 6:45am tomorrow (today)
[00:05] <stdin> nalioth: I've run out of channel I don't want to be in. and I'm an couple support channels too
[00:05] <stdin> s/couple/few
[00:05] <Tm_T> 0545, Gary, that's less than 4 hours
[00:06] <Tm_T> stdin: you never beat me or Riddell in channelcount I believe
[00:06] <Gary> I'm only in ten
[00:06] <stdin> Tm_T: I would never try :p
[00:07] <stdin> I keep to only one network too
[00:07] <Gary> yeah, none of that dodgy network stuff for me
[00:07] <Tm_T> stdin: I have my "reduced low" and it's only 40 now, 60 being normal and 70 high
[00:08] <stdin> I'm stuck at 20
[00:08] <Tm_T> stdin: 2 networks now
[00:08] <nalioth> stdin: i suspect you're stuck in ignorance
[00:08] <stdin> nalioth: heh, yeah I just checked
[00:09]  * stdin is no longer stuck at 20
[00:09] <Tm_T> nalioth: about cloak combinations, impossible?
[00:11] <Gary> possible, whois welp for an example
[00:11] <nalioth> cloak combination?
[00:11] <nalioth> 4l-34r-22l-OPEN
[00:11] <Tm_T> nalioth: my current KDE cloak and Ubuntu cloak
[00:11] <Gary>  welp@gentoo/developer/colchester-lug.member.welp
[00:11] <Tm_T> uuh
[00:12] <LjL> no, closed
[00:12] <Tm_T> LjL: the fellow from few hours back ranting about bullying?
[00:12] <LjL> Tm_T: nah, just the random numbers nalioth said
[00:13] <Tm_T> mmmh
[00:13] <Gary> Tm_T@ubuntu/member/kde.developer.Tm_T - is that what you mean Tm_T ?
[00:14] <Tm_T> almost, s/Tm_T/jkekkonen
[00:14] <Tm_T> as in KDE cloak should be same as svn account
[00:17] <PriceChild> Has ubuntuforums.org gone for you?
[00:17] <LjL> hm? it's up
[00:18] <Gary> PriceChild, slow
[01:02] <no0tic> chanserv replies as it was on venus
[01:05] <juano__> is this syntax correct to make ubotu pm a certain person in #ubuntu?  :   i.e.:  !alsa > annie  (see private message from ubotu) ?
[01:08] <somerville32> !hi > juano__   (did it work?)
[01:09] <juano__> somerville32: yes :) thanks
[02:23] <nalioth> any developers around here?
[02:23] <nalioth> and awake?
[02:23] <Tm_T> depends
[02:23] <jdong> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!
[02:23] <jdong> lol
[02:23] <Tm_T> jdong: :(
[02:23] <PriceChild> jdong's a real developer now!
[02:23] <jdong> sorry, obligatory
[02:23] <jdong> PriceChild: hey I'm going to study! don't drag me into your bloody messes!
[02:23] <Tm_T> jdong: no, it's not
[02:23] <nalioth> why can't we do something like this?  http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
[02:23] <PriceChild> jdong, no-one says no to nalioth.
[02:24] <nalioth> i'd liketo collaborate on this project for the Ubuntu side
[02:24] <PriceChild> nalioth, debian.exe?
[02:24] <Tm_T> nalioth: have you poked #ubuntu-marketing ?
[02:24] <PriceChild> kinda like what's it called... wubi?
[02:24] <PriceChild> What's up Paddy_EIRE?
[02:24] <nalioth> wubi?
[02:24] <PriceChild> !wubi
[02:24] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[02:25] <PriceChild> did you mean the site? Or the downloadable windows .exe?
[02:25] <nalioth> hmm
[02:25] <Tm_T> hmmm
[02:25] <PriceChild> hmmmm
[02:25] <Pici> hmmmmmm
[02:25] <PriceChild> Pici, you ruined it!
[02:25] <nalioth> i searched for all manner of things for installing debian on an old machine
[02:25] <nalioth> wubi didn't come up at all
[02:25] <Tm_T> nalioth: you distracted me, what I was doing... :o
[02:25] <Paddy_EIRE> PriceChild, very nasty day.... and I'm not very sorry although I know I should be X(
[02:26] <PriceChild> nalioth, I'm totally confused what it is you're suggesting "we" as in ubuntu should do?
[02:26] <Paddy_EIRE> PriceChild, wrongness should not be tolerated
[02:26] <nalioth> PriceChild: nothing.
[02:26] <nalioth> i'll grab the source and mangle it myself  :|
[02:26] <Paddy_EIRE> although give me about 10-15 minutes or so
[02:26] <Tm_T> :(
[02:26] <PriceChild> :s
[02:27] <PriceChild> Paddy_EIRE, sorry I'm not following  :)
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> nm
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yer a good person at least
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> brb
[02:27] <nalioth> and no, wubi is totally unlike 'goodbye-microsoft.com'
[02:27] <PriceChild> What was that aboug?
[02:27] <nalioth> which is probably why wubi did not come up in my searches
[02:28] <PriceChild> nalioth, so what does that debian.exe do?
[02:28] <nalioth> it gathers a few bits of info and downloads an initr.gz(sp), adds an entry into the ntldr and allows you to install debian completely over the network
[02:28] <nalioth> no PXE booting
[02:28] <nalioth> no arcane changing of config files
[02:29] <nalioth> just a simple exe
[02:29] <PriceChild> Isn't that what wubi does? :/
[02:29] <nalioth> no
[02:29] <PriceChild> well a little different
[02:29] <PriceChild> doesn't destroy windows
[02:29] <nalioth> from the description of wubi, it runs ubuntu out of a windows folder
[02:29] <nalioth> this completely installs debian on a seperate partition and everything
[02:29] <PriceChild> yeah
[02:29]  * Pici scratches his head @ paddy_eire
[02:29] <PriceChild> wheras wubi fakes a hard drive in an existing partition
[02:30] <nalioth> right
[02:30] <PriceChild> both routes with benefits
[02:31] <nalioth> i would like to collaborate with someone on an Ubuntu version of the debian.exe
[02:31] <nalioth> i have ideas to make it "more user friendly"
[02:36] <somerville32> nalioth, file a bug
[02:36] <nalioth> file a bug on what? a debian package?
[02:40] <somerville32> nalioth, Yes. :]
[04:11] <nalioth> so how much trouble is it to upgrade to gutsy from etch?
[04:20] <Tm_T> hi Kagar how can we help you?
[04:21] <Tm_T> nalioth: no idea :(
[04:21] <Kagar> I was told to see PriceChild
[04:21] <PriceChild> Kagar, just reading up on the ban
[04:21] <Kagar> aye, I had posted some lyrics that were o4o -- described some drugs..
[04:22] <tritium> PriceChild: quick draw
[04:22] <Kagar> I was going to stop -- but I had already pressed enter before I was told not too, then banned.
[04:22] <PriceChild> tritium, hehe
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> not the first time though, apparently
[04:22] <Kagar> :\ true..
[04:23] <PriceChild> Hmmm bantracker refers to an earlier incident...
[04:24] <Kagar> the 4chan thing wasn't my fault..
[04:24] <PriceChild> I wasn't talking about a 4chan thing...
[04:24] <Kagar> either was i
[04:24] <Kagar> *shifty eyes*
[04:25] <PriceChild> "Why?"
[04:26] <Kagar> hmm
[04:27] <Kagar> I dunno
[04:27] <PriceChild> Oh go on there must have been a reason...
[04:27] <Kagar> why to which
[04:27] <PriceChild> no-one just goes and posts stuff in a channel....
[04:28] <Kagar> which one am I saying why to ?
[04:28] <PriceChild> the "song" you were pasting it
[04:28] <PriceChild> *in
[04:29] <Kagar> I was hyper and it was playing and one thing led to another
[04:30] <PriceChild> Pasting song lyrics in channel is bad enough..... those lyrics especially so. Agreed?
[04:31] <Kagar> yeah
[04:32] <Kagar> eh, well, I appreciate the "hearing" -- but I'm dealing with some stuff right now.. I'll return some other time.. or I dunno.
[04:33] <Tm_T> he's not really interested about the issue
[04:33] <Tm_T> I'd say forget it until he really asks for it
[04:33] <PriceChild> I'd prefer to ask Ljl first anyway.
[04:33] <Tm_T> that too
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> hmmm, how do I list all channels on the server matching a regex?
[04:36] <nalioth>   /msg chanserv list *term*
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> hmm, not working
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> Trying to find all Drupal channels, btw.
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> Getting no results.
[04:37] <nalioth> i've got 71 results
[04:37] <nalioth>    /cs list *drupal*
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> ah, needed the wildcards
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> *term* was literal - missed that
[04:38]  * nalioth sets a pack of ravenous wildcards loose on tonyyarusso 
[04:43] <Kagar> blargh, sorry for being a butt and leaving --
[04:44] <Tm_T> mmh
[04:44] <Kagar> LjL -- may I ask how long my ban was set for?
[04:44] <Tm_T> I'd say that's perfect answer from PC
[04:45] <Kagar> yeah. seems like everyone is leaving me today
[05:16] <Tm_T> Myrtti: :)
[07:49]  * jussio1 waves
 - his language is appalling...
[11:03] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[11:03] <Tm_T> other #kubuntu idlers here?
[11:03] <Tm_T> just like to have opinion about this Galore
[11:11] <Tm_T> jussio1: show it!
[11:12] <jussio1> Tm_T: ahh now... Im shy...
[11:12] <Tm_T> naah you have none
[11:12] <Tm_T> just fooled me
[11:13] <jussio1> hehe
[11:20] <Gary>  Goatz has quit ("sleep() Gary hates me") - so tempting to place a ban on him
[11:21] <Tm_T> naaah
[11:21] <Tm_T> it's not fair nor fun
[11:21] <Gary> well I know that
[11:21] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, goatz is a PITA generally
[11:21] <Gary> well it is kinda fun
[11:22] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: sorry, don't know him, but I can guess
[11:22] <Gary> well the nick give it away really
[11:23] <Gary> I've just had to do a AUP/computer use policy for my work, arghh, why do a few have to spoil it for the rest of us
[11:37] <Daviey> Gary: What happend to make it needed?
[11:40] <Gary> some idiot thought it was a great idea to install pirated games and stuff
[11:40] <Gary> I'm trying to walk the fine line in making them support the AUP, but not going down tying the machines down so users cannot do anything
[11:41] <elkbuntu> Gary, surefire way to minimise that is to use linux :Þ
[11:41] <Gary> elkbuntu, well dur :p
[11:41] <elkbuntu> see, another + for linux :D
[11:44] <ardchoille> I need to poke someone for voice in this chanel.
[11:44] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:44] <Hobbsee> why?
[11:45] <Tm_T> #kubuntu op
[11:45] <ardchoille> I just thought that since I'm now an op in #kubuntu..
[11:45] <Tm_T> though, was that enough?
[11:45] <Tm_T> hmm, no
[11:45] <Tm_T> ardchoille: ubuntu-irc team atleast should be
[11:46] <ardchoille> So I need to join ubuntu-irc team
[11:46] <stdin> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc
[11:46] <Tm_T> ardchoille: :)
[11:46] <Tm_T> ardchoille: enthusiasm <3
[11:47] <Tm_T> fresh energy that is
[11:47] <Tm_T> (to be burned by trolls and alike)
[11:47]  * Tm_T hides
[11:47] <Hobbsee> ardchoille: since when were you a kubuntu op, btw?
[11:47]  * Hobbsee seems to have no memory of this
[11:48] <ardchoille> Hobbsee: 48 minutes ago
[11:48] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: our newest member, and op
[11:48] <ardchoille> Tm_T: Joined ubuntu-irc team :)
[11:49] <Tm_T> yay!
[11:49] <Hobbsee> oh
[11:49] <Tm_T> ardchoille: btw see our steamhead talking relaxed ;)
[11:50] <ardchoille> Tm_T: Reading :)
[12:08] <Gary> hopefully one day i'll be approved for that team :p
[13:37] <jussi01> hello PriceChild :D
[13:42] <PriceChild> hi
[13:47] <PriceChild> crap.... approved someone I shouldn't have
[13:47] <ardchoille> PriceChild: I was just going to say thank you for the approval
[13:48] <PriceChild> sorry ardchoille... misread it thinking you hadn't yet been added to the ubuntu-irc-cloaks group
[13:48] <ardchoille> PriceChild: Do I need to join ubuntu-irc-cloaks group?
[13:49] <PriceChild> Well you have an ubuntu/member cloak so you should have been added by us
[13:49] <ardchoille> ok
[13:49] <ardchoille> PriceChild: So I don't need to be on the ubuntu-irc team?
[13:50] <PriceChild> Did you read the description/know what the team is?
[13:50] <PriceChild> Sorry I've got to run to a lecture
[13:50] <jussi01> PriceChild: ardchoille and i were added as #kubuntu ops today
[13:51] <PriceChild> ah were you?
[13:51] <ardchoille> PriceChild: I am an op for #kubuntu
[13:51] <ardchoille> Riddell added us
[13:51] <PriceChild> well it still needs a "council" approval... and that's given after watching you for a few months etc. etc.
[13:51] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[13:52] <PriceChild> ubuntu-irc is meant as a group of people we trust, and would reccomend to others as channel ops if they're short...
[13:52] <PriceChild> I don't think any of us know you yet ;)
[13:52] <ardchoille> God point
[13:52] <ardchoille> *Good
[13:55] <Gary> do you know me? :-)
[13:57] <jussi01> Gary: we know you....
[13:58] <Hobbsee> mmm...feel the lag...
[13:58] <jussi01> hehe
[13:58] <Gary> :'(
[13:59] <Myrtti> oh my
[13:59] <Myrtti> my channels are multiplying again
[14:01] <jussi01> Myrtti: you need to keep the boys away from the girls...
[14:02] <Myrtti> I've got only boy channels nowadays
[14:02] <Gary> me too :p
[14:03] <Myrtti> used to be on several girlie channels back in the day, but I've drifted too far to geekdom and silly talks about yarn, relationships, food and clothes with just a hint of horde / postfix / html -guruing don't hit the spot anymore
[14:03] <Myrtti> I need better stuff
[14:13] <ikonia> Mmmmm girlie girls
[14:16]  * Hobbsee cracks the whip in ikonia's direction
[14:16] <ikonia> Hmmmmm hard girlies
[14:17] <Hobbsee> yeah, but they'll never sleep with you, so you're wasting your time there...
[14:17] <ikonia> me specificly, or in general
[14:18] <Hobbsee> you specifically.  although i wonder what you're meaning there by "in general"
[14:18] <ikonia> as in they won't sleep with "men" in general
[14:18] <ikonia> why me specificly, I could be a hottie for all you know
[14:19] <ikonia> (I'm not) but I could be
[14:25] <jack_> Guys.. just wanted to say I am logged in twice from the same ip to try and setup another machine...  NOt trying to slip one past anyone..  Morning ikonia...  Sparrow here
[14:26] <Tm_T> hmmm
[14:41] <jack_> Morning jrib
[14:42] <jrib> morning
[14:42] <LjL> THE FOLLOWING IS A TEST
[14:43] <jrib> what is 2+2?
[14:43] <jack_> Depends.. Are we the Government or real life?
[14:44] <jrib> ha
[14:44] <LjL> ok, no test
[14:44] <jack_> Did you see my problem with the fresh install I am working on?  Clicking link brings up calendar and not firefox?
[14:47]  * Hobbsee twiddles thumbs
[14:52] <Hobbsee> er, what were wii's aliases?
[14:52] <Hobbsee> more to the point, is genii one of them?
[14:52] <jack_> Verified.. there is a prob with the installation of sunbird.. (I used synaptic) Problem went away after I removed Sunbird...
[14:54] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: genii is definately known to be a good guy, totally different than wii/mii/nicio etc
[14:54] <Hobbsee> oh, it was nicio
[14:54] <Hobbsee> i thought there was a nick starting with g
[14:54] <mc44> Hobbsee: no genii is someone else who is entirely sane :)
[14:54] <Hobbsee> jack_: btw, it only starts looking suspicious from 3+
[14:54] <Hobbsee> jack_: because people log, etc
[14:54] <Hobbsee> mc44: ah, good.
[14:54] <jack_> np.. just wanted to be upfront about it
[14:55] <Gary> and you might have a mutli-geek household
[14:55] <jack_> Should I file a bug on Sunbird installation?
[15:23] <Hobbsee> mneptok: you're strange ;P
[15:23] <Pici> Is this news?
[15:24] <Hobbsee> no, just reading the backlog
[15:24]  * Pici scrolls
[15:25] <Hobbsee> mneptok: not into dead squirrels then?  whyever not?
[15:40] <Gary> my boyfriends been writing articles - http://www.helium.com/tm/746290/there-horror-stories-about
[15:40] <Gary> I'm so proud of him :p
[16:14] <ubotu> In ubotu, jussi01 said: !ntfs-3g is preinstalled from Feisty onwards. If you run an older version of ubuntu, installation instuctions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:14] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g
[16:14] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:14] <jussi01> what do people think?
[16:15]  * jussi01 -> sauna
[16:35] <Myrtti> !ntfs
[16:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[16:38] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[16:39] <Pici> interesting masks mez
[16:41] <Mez> Pici, :D
[16:42] <Pici> Mez: you set 3 bans on that person
[16:42] <Mez> Pici, so ?
[16:43] <Pici> Seems a bit overkill.
[16:43] <Mez> he wont come back though
[16:43] <Mez> lol
[16:44]  * Pici shrugs
[16:52] <jussi01> hmmm.. is flash still broken?
[16:52] <jussi01> If not, it would be good to get rid of the bit about it in /topic in #ubuntu.
[16:53] <jdong> jussi01: I understand it's in backports, on its way into -updates
[16:53] <jdong> jussi01: so very much in progress
[16:53] <jussi01> jdong: ahh, great
[16:58] <PriceChild> jdong, I got the update today I think
[16:59] <ikonia> its available
[16:59] <ikonia> I finsihed testing and reported back to brandon
[16:59] <ikonia> the !flash-issue factoid and topic can be changed back
[16:59] <ikonia> apologise I should have said earlier today
[16:59] <ikonia> its fine on 6.06 6.10 7.04 and 7.10
[17:00]  * jussi01 hugs ikonia ! great!
[17:00] <ikonia> It's not in the public repo though yet
[17:00] <ikonia> still in proposed
[17:00] <ikonia> but I expect it to be moved quick
[17:00] <PriceChild> is it just in -proposed?
[17:00] <ikonia> yes
[17:00] <PriceChild> hehe i'm too slow
[17:00] <jussi01> ikonia: do you need people to test it from proposed?
[17:00] <ikonia> no no
[17:00] <ikonia> I hould have said earlier
[17:00] <ikonia> should
[17:00] <ikonia> jussi01: people are welcome to
[17:01] <ikonia> I completed it earlier, but the more the merrier
[17:01] <ikonia> apologies for the slow response
[17:01] <jussi01> :)
[17:01] <ikonia> that was poor on my part
[17:01] <Mez> !flashissue
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:02] <Mez> !flash-issue
[17:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-issue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:02] <Mez> !search flash
[17:02] <ubotu> Found: flash 9, gnash, flash64, fffc, flash, flashissues, flash64bit, flash9, flashplayer, font
[17:02] <Mez> !flashissues
[17:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is on its way
[17:02] <Mez> !flashissues =~ s/on its way/in -proposed/
[17:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that Mez
[17:02] <Mez> !flashissues ~= s/on its way/in -proposed/
[17:02] <Mez> !flashissues
[17:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. A fix is in -proposed
[17:03] <jussi01> :)
[17:03] <ikonia> just mailed to request it be moved to main
[17:03] <ikonia> along with my test results
[17:38] <jdong> PriceChild: it's in -proposed
[17:38] <jdong> urgh already answered never mind
[17:39] <ikonia> ;)
[18:01] <ubotu> In #kubuntu-offtopic, h3sp4wn said: ubotu: This is !offtopic I think you should get some decent software
[18:09] <PriceChild> nalioth, can you remove <LeTechito> from #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[18:13] <ubotu> In #kubuntu-offtopic, h3sp4wn said: Ubotu doesn't that is what sucks
[18:16] <stdin> *sigh* he's at it again
[19:18] <PriceChild> Gothfunc, can I help?
[19:18] <PriceChild> Kagar, can I help?
[20:22] <Myrtti> again automatix
[20:22] <Myrtti> I can't believe people are STILL using it
[20:23] <tonyyarusso> yeah, I just read a Gutsy-oriented article that used it...
[20:23] <PriceChild> I saw a backup program on the forums the other day
[20:23] <pieisgood4589> Hi. Quick question-
[20:23] <PriceChild> simple gui, comes up with about 10 options
[20:23] <PriceChild> *will continue in a moment*
[20:23] <pieisgood4589> How long do banns last?
[20:23] <PriceChild> "as long as they need to"
[20:23] <pieisgood4589> OK
[20:24] <pieisgood4589> wow.
[20:24] <pieisgood4589> what's the time a ban should take place if I said "lets play pong?"
[20:24] <PriceChild> I don't see why that would mean a ban
[20:24] <pieisgood4589> I don't know why but I was banned for saying that
[20:24] <PriceChild> what channel are we talking about? We're talking about you?
[20:24] <pieisgood4589> #ubuntu
[20:24] <pieisgood4589> Yes
[20:24] <pieisgood4589> I was banned for saying "lets play pong
[20:25] <PriceChild> Well for starters it seems offtopic
[20:25] <pieisgood4589> Oh...
[20:25]  * PriceChild looks up the ban
[20:27] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[20:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:27] <PriceChild> !guidelines
[20:27] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:27] <pieisgood4589> Ok
[20:28] <pieisgood4589> Thank you.
[20:28] <PriceChild> For what?
[20:28] <PriceChild> ping ompaul
[20:28] <PriceChild> Read those two please pieisgood4589, and remind me of the purpose of #ubuntu
[20:28] <pieisgood4589> Why?
[20:29] <pieisgood4589> Ok
[20:29] <PriceChild> (the "ping" wasn't directed at you sorry)
[20:29] <pieisgood4589> Oh...
[20:29] <tonyyarusso> ah, the subleties of "ping PriceChild" vs "PriceChild: ping"
[20:29] <pieisgood4589> Haha
[20:30] <pieisgood4589> ping ompaul
[20:30] <PriceChild> indeed, I should know better
[20:30] <pieisgood4589> ompaul: ping
[20:30] <pieisgood4589> ompaul:ping
[20:30] <PriceChild> pieisgood4589, what are you doing? Why do you need him?
[20:30] <PriceChild> PLEASE stop pinging him...
[20:30] <pieisgood4589> I don't
[20:30] <pieisgood4589> I'm just trying it out
[20:30] <pieisgood4589> What does it do?
[20:31] <PriceChild> the same as when i do this pieisgood4589
[20:31] <pieisgood4589> Ok...
[20:31] <pieisgood4589> Do what
[20:32] <PriceChild> pardon?
[20:32] <pieisgood4589> Never mind.
[20:32] <pieisgood4589> How long will my ban last?
[20:32] <pieisgood4589> Can you tell?
[20:33] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[20:33] <Myrtti> 15mins added everytime you ask ;-)
[20:33] <pieisgood4589> Oh...
[20:34] <Myrtti> the ban will be released when it's due
[20:34] <pieisgood4589> Ok.
[20:34] <ptw> jenda: hi, can you help me sequester a nick
[20:35] <ptw> can anyone help me take over an unused nick?
[20:36] <javaJake> ptw, #freenode would be better for that if you're talking about IRC nicks
[20:36] <javaJake> Anyone able to remove the past conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic from the logs?
[20:36] <javaJake> I'm not worried about too much, just don't like my personal trials broadcasted for infinity on the 'net
[20:38] <jenda> ptw: here me is :)
[20:39] <javaJake> Nvm, #ubuntu-offtopic isn't logged. :P
[20:39] <PriceChild> gah at pieisgood going... :/
[20:41] <jenda> ptw: seems like you've already had it your way ;)
[20:41] <ptw> jenda: someone just set me up in #freenode
[20:41] <jenda> ptw: :)
[20:42] <ptw> jenda: but the link he sent me to continue the process doesn't work
[20:43] <jdong> someone set us up the cloak!
[20:44] <jdong> XD sorry obligatory :D
[20:52] <PriceChild> jdong, wha?!
[21:00]  * jussi01 -> bed :D nite all.
[21:00]  * jussi01 throws a snowball at jdong as he walks out :P
[21:21] <LjL> *wasn't* logged... *g*
[21:22] <tonyyarusso> haha
[21:54] <LjL> someone have a clue what the hell kahrytan is doing in #ubuntu now?
[21:56] <Myrtti> looks like helping?
[21:56] <Tm_T> wasn't he banned?
[21:56] <LjL> no, just from -offtopic
[21:56] <LjL> i was wondering why he called !o4o
[21:57] <Tm_T> hmmm
[21:57] <Tm_T> I see
[21:57] <Myrtti> must've done it in error or like
[21:57] <Myrtti> let it pass
[21:58] <Tm_T> I agree
[22:02] <Myrtti> /me likes the idea of giving people some slack
[22:02] <jdong> slack is good, but Ubuntu has better package management :)
[22:02] <nalioth> yes, me too, Myrtti.
[22:25] <Kagar> LjL -- am I banned still?
[22:35] <LjL> yes Kagar, i think it will be a little longer than this
[22:44] <Kagar> Its been like 8 days now. :(
[22:44] <Kagar> not really. more like 4 or 5
[22:44] <mneptok> Kagar: i looked at the ban after some other users remarked that they missed you.
[22:44] <Kagar> but all right.. do you have an estimate?
[22:44] <Kagar> mm, it's nice to know that I'm loved.
[22:44] <mneptok> Kagar: you've been banned multiple times, often for the same, unthinking, stupig type comments.
[22:44] <Kagar> even if I'm a butt
[22:45] <Kagar> eh, yeah.
[22:45] <mneptok> Kagar: i just wonder why you'd make the same dumb mistakes in channels where you're obviously wanted.
[22:45] <mneptok> no disrespect. just sayin' ...
[22:45] <mneptok> *shrug*
[22:46] <Kagar> I dunno, I'm just not used to moderators... So it's been an adjustment for me.. but seriously, I think I've gotten better than if there were zero moderators..
[22:46] <mneptok> something to think about as LjL has his "i wonder if this guy has learned anything yet" inner monologue.
[22:46] <mneptok> but what do i know. i'm basically a trained baboon.
[22:46] <mneptok> "ook ook"
[22:46] <Kagar> heh
[22:47] <LjL> Kagar, estimate is month
[22:47] <Kagar> aeuurgghh
[22:47] <Kagar> -_-
[22:47] <Kagar> all right. I will return in one month...
[22:49] <Kagar> It'll allow me to work on some scholarship stuff.
[22:50] <somerville32> Kagar, You can always check out the other channels :)
[22:57] <Kagar> yeah, ut I don't know about the other channels -- somerville32
[22:58] <Kagar> most look lame or in other languages.
[22:58] <Kagar> but that's my personal opinion -- but I guess I can always quest.
[23:02] <ikonia> mneptok: is that the offical noise of a baboon
[23:08] <mneptok> ikonia: the standards body has yet to enact it, but it has been proposed.
[23:08] <ikonia> I'll wait for it to become main
[23:34] <ikonia> guys, little help please, UBUNTUSOLVED in #ubuntu trolling, giving out nonsense answer and bad advice on purpose
[23:34] <ikonia> %150 troll
[23:34] <ikonia> help please.
[23:35] <ikonia> nalioth: thank you
[23:40] <ikonia> fedup of kbrooks talking crap and offering people nosense for advice
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> It is no wonder I drink...
[23:42] <ikonia> he ALWAYS does it
[23:42] <ikonia> it's not fair on people
[23:42] <ikonia> had enough of it with him now
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: already dropped
[23:43] <LjL> ikonia: and for that matter, you used to be a serial RTFMer... :P anyway, paste the bad advice in here rather than arguing - if there should be arguing, better to bring it in here than #ubuntu
[23:44] <ikonia> totally
[23:44] <ikonia> RTM'er ?
[23:44] <ikonia> I still advise people to read the manual
[23:44] <LjL> there's nothing wrong with that in itself
[23:44] <LjL> ubuntuisloved coming
[23:44] <LjL> (probably)
[23:45] <LjL> lucian, how can we help you?
[23:47] <no0tic> ikonia, You teach fishing not give freash fishes to anyone :)
[23:48]  * LjL slaps no0tic with a trout that's definitely not fresh
[23:48] <no0tic> *fresh, sorry
[23:48] <ikonia> I will give help, I just don't like people who just want the answer now now now, with no effort for no reason
[23:48] <ikonia> if someones strugglging no problem
[23:48]  * no0tic too
[23:48] <ikonia> but "I need this now, because I do, and can't be bothered to read"
[23:48] <ikonia> I'll always just point them at the manual
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Agreed, it is nice to see tham make some effort in solving the problem
[23:49] <ikonia> (not alway, but general rule of thumb)
[23:49] <ikonia> if they have made the effort to find the channel, then they can at least have a little look for the answer, somewhere
[23:50] <LjL> ikonia, reasonable in theory, but when you overdo it for a while, there is a risk of starting to *assume* that the guy didn't even try to read a thing... while they really might have been reading, but the wrong things. and i'm of the opinion that one should always *point* at the relevant manual, and make sure that the information *is* there directly (and if it's there indirectly, explain what's the indirectly relevant information to look for)
[23:50] <no0tic> ikonia, in the italian they excuse theirselves telling us they don't know english..
[23:50] <LjL> anyway, i didn't mean to criticize your *current* approach really.
[23:51] <ikonia> LjL: %100 agree with that
[23:51] <ikonia> LjL: critisim is always welcome
[23:51] <ikonia> well, mostly
[23:51] <ikonia> no0tic: thats a fair point, cross-language stuff is hard
[23:51] <no0tic> LjL, after a while you spot easily who hasn't read anything at all
[23:51] <LjL> no0tic: or you just *think* you do. that's, imho, the mistake to be careful of
[23:52] <LjL> anyway
[23:52] <ikonia> LjL: yes, that is a fine line
[23:52] <LjL> ubuntuisloved: hi, how can we help you?
[23:52] <ikonia> apologies I didn't see ubuntuisloved enter
[23:53] <ubuntuisloved> i guess im under the impression that your mod's cannot handle thier powers correctly and I was thrown off a channel without a chance to explain anything
[23:53] <LjL> ubuntuisloved, i think you were warning, and as a response you told the person who warned you to stop
[23:53] <LjL> s/warning/warned/
[23:54] <ubuntuisloved> i told them to stop harrasing me yes as they stated i was not helping the user although if they read my post i said use apt-get install *** etc...
[23:55] <ubuntuisloved> if a ubuntu mod cannot understand that im helping them with a question by telling them what to install we really need to rethink how we give powers out
[23:56] <ubuntuisloved> what specifically is s/warning/warned ?
[23:57] <LjL> ubuntuisloved: i meant to say that my typing "warning" was a typo, and i intended to type "warned" instead
[23:57] <ubuntuisloved> ohh
[23:57] <ubuntuisloved> i told them to not harrass me is this against the irc rules ?
[23:57] <ubuntuisloved> i didnt realize its ok for mod's to harrass users
[23:58] <LjL> ubuntuisloved, uhm, well it's offtopic i guess... but the point is that you were warned about (perceived?) bad behavior, and instead of replying logically you clearly stated you'd ignore the warning
[23:58] <nalioth> ubuntuisloved: a 'warning' is not harassment
[23:59] <ubuntuisloved> well how many mods are there handling the channel #ubuntu ?
[23:59] <LjL> a few
[23:59] <PriceChild> ubuntuisloved, You were trolling #ubuntu with nonsense. Neither answering specific questions, nor asking your own. Just gibberish.
[23:59] <ubuntuisloved> your telling me that out of all the mod's on that channel all of them can't read that i was telling the user how to install a program
[23:59] <nalioth> ubuntuisloved: we all have logs here.
[23:59] <LjL> (and they're called "operators" or "ops" on IRC, the terms are different from forums and such)