[00:01] I see [00:25] good evening. [00:28] evening [00:34] Accepted: linux 2.6.24-2.3 (source) [00:52] trying to build kdebase-3.5.8 from hardy src, and got an error "*** No rule to make target `decryptdialog.ui' in kioslave/media/mounthelper" [00:53] and there is no such file at all in kdebase-3.5.8 src archive.. [00:56] hmm so then how did it build? :P [00:56] iRon, which version exactly is it [00:57] decryptdialog.ui is not in standard kde [00:57] its the encrypted drivers addition from novell [00:57] cheguevara: 3.5.8-2ubuntu4 [00:59] hardy i386 Successfully built (DONE) [01:02] i'm looking at kdebase_3.5.8-2ubuntu4.diff.gz, [01:03] yeah that should include the crypt drive changes [01:03] yes [01:04] and it only contains changes for Makefile's.. but doesn't contains decryptdialog.ui .. [01:04] i need to get it from somewhere else? [01:05] kubuntu_9912_enable_crypto.diff [01:05] is that the one? [01:07] you can probably get it somewhere from suse, but ping Riddell tomorrow about it [01:08] cheguevara: thanks, i will :) [01:11] vorian: are you having issues with kdebase at all tonight? [01:11] yes [01:11] kwin3_oxygen? [01:11] nixternal, aye [01:11] ok [01:11] * nixternal checks my svn checkout [01:11] svn was not pulling an external svn [01:12] is that what it is [01:12] did you figure it out/get it fixed? [01:13] ahh [01:13] dude, it Just got it with an svn up [01:13] arrgh first COPYING file missing, now 2 .c files missing headers [01:14] damn ppl :P [01:14] hey, I am a moron!!! [01:15] I mucked up the .orig.tar.gz somehow and had the archive spit back soprano calling me an idiot :) [01:15] lol [01:15] nixternal, did you just svn up? [01:15] vorian: ya [01:15] kewl [01:15] * vorian retries [01:16] nixternal, is hardy main still broken? [01:16] no, it is working [01:17] oh nice [01:17] it was a choke on apt [01:17] not even 5 minutes after I cried about it, it started working again :) [01:17] lol [01:17] time to go try out pbuilder then [01:18] w00t oxygen [01:18] adept needs bumping though [01:18] no dist-upgrade for now :P [01:19] I feel like I am in my slackware days here running ubuntu server and installing kde4 on it :) [01:19] :P [01:23] bye [01:25] damn, now a strigi error [01:25] how far into the build? [01:26] 18% [01:26] there is a new strigi as well [01:26] crap [01:26] * nixternal goes and creates and updated package [01:26] lol [01:26] i'm 14% [01:26] derr, you are on hardy, I am on gutsy [01:26] i'm 15% [01:26] call me stupid, kthxbye :) [01:26] lol [01:26] you are fine on hardy [01:27] good [01:27] :) [01:27] wtf do u need 2 authors in an 8 line C file [01:27] hahahaha [01:27] one guy to talk, one guy to type [01:27] lol [01:27] hehe [01:28] honestly this is so crap, 2 authors and 3 years so all of the files have all the different copyright combinations possible between those [01:29] bah, it is in the gutsy backports already :) [01:29] lol [01:30] 20% [01:30] :) [01:31] and now we are back and running :) [01:31] its a race [01:31] ya it is...I keep forgetting I am using that old stable junk :) [01:31] is yours amd64? [01:31] ya [01:32] hmm /me thinks you will win then [01:32] I want to run KDE 4 on a better system than my laptop [01:32] nixternal, what laptop you got [01:32] although, my laptop runs it pretty damn good with composite enabled [01:32] compaq c304nr (the greatest free software laptop in the world) [01:33] celeron m 1.6ghz, 1.5gb ram, intel all the way through :) [01:33] upgraded the ram yourself? :P [01:33] of course [01:33] after the dumb ass at best buy lied to me, well he didn't lie, he was just stupid [01:33] he told me this lappy had 2x 256mb chips [01:33] it had 1 512mb chip [01:33] lol === Nightrose_ is now known as Nightrose [01:34] otherwise I would have done 2x 1gb sticks at the time [01:34] yeah [01:34] mine is centrino duo 2x1.6 and 1 gig ram [01:34] I already want a new laptop..I can't stand 1280 x 800 [01:34] all intel as well [01:35] my lappy is 1680x1050 [01:35] it's love [01:35] :) [01:35] 16.0" ? [01:35] no that was stupid [01:35] lol [01:35] hahaha [01:36] 17.0" is more like it [01:36] yeah lol [01:36] i need to go sleep [01:36] editing this copyright file for the last couple of hours is not doing my brain good [01:36] sleep is for the weak :p [01:36] oh man, I hate copyright files when they are crazy long...like kde* copyrights [01:37] 9 different copyright sections so far.... [01:37] now at least i got pbuilder ready, can get the build deps correct [01:39] is doing ldd on the binary enough to get the run time depends? [01:39] son of a biznatch...same error, even after updating strigi [01:39] how did the rest of the tutorial day go? [01:40] I had to go after the pyQt tutorial [01:41] was pretty popular [01:41] lots of ppl turned up [01:46] all kubuntu people? [01:47] 46! [01:48] 46 what... [01:48] % [01:48] sorry [01:52] kde4 RC2 installing :D [01:53] BTW, converted one of my Qt4 apps to KDE4 and it looks much nicer :D [01:53] is there a utility to query to which package a certain file belongs [01:54] cheguevara: yeah, dpkg -S [01:54] thx [01:54] hi kids [01:54] wow i actually got the build deps right, builds without changes under pbuilder [01:54] hi Tm_T [01:55] nosrednaekim: forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is the difference between a QT4 app and a KDE4 app? I thought KDE was based on QT? [01:55] hey Tm_T [01:55] wolfger: the theme :D [01:56] wolfger: oxygen looks way better than platique (default QT theme) [01:56] :( [01:57] In tutorial today, we used Qt Designer... is that the same tool for doing a KDE4 app, or is there a separate tool better used for that? [01:57] never mind, found it [01:58] wolfger: same tool [02:03] http://pastebin.ca/raw/815450 [02:04] is this looking ok so far or am i doing too much work [02:04] ignore the / lines [02:04] cheguevara: learned packagin in a day? XD [02:04] got inspired enough to try it :P [02:05] any comments? [02:06] nah, I don't know w athing about it :D [02:06] lol [02:07] nixternal, could u take a quick look please [03:02] hi. [03:04] hi [03:04] hey [03:04] whats up [03:04] Is it possible to see the kubuntu-tutorial conversation? [03:05] yes i want to too [03:05] litdream: Yes! [03:05] I wanted to attend, but it conflicts with my work. [03:05] You program .NET? [03:06] DaSkreech: I used to write some earlier version of C#, not any more. [03:06] w00t [03:06] C/C++/learning python [03:07] * claydoh hits the tutorial logs, should be some good reading [03:07] logs are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay [03:07] awesome [03:15] man, my fonts are all messed up now :( [03:15] gutsy + kde4 == nightmare [03:15] Yes [03:15] dist-upgrade to hardy and then retry [03:15] nixternal, did yours finish? [03:15] kept dying at 18% [03:15] that sucks [03:15] nixternal: yeah.... its looking to be a pain... especcially since I have to do download scripts. [03:15] dropping that gutsy garbage and goin' with the hardy [03:15] I was contemplating going to hardy on my laptop actually. [03:16] I use hardy on my laptop [03:16] just be careful when you do daily updates and you will typically be fne [03:16] fine [03:16] I usually wait until about 3 months then dist-upgrade [03:16] yes, like the xorg-xserver that just came down :) [03:17] did that mess stuff up? [03:17] no [03:17] oh yeah new git snapshot of xserver [03:17] I always keep an ear out for crying [03:17] I haven't upgraded in a few days because for some reason, oo.o hasn't been rebuilt against the new libopenexr [03:18] oh ya, I just seen that in ubuntu-devel [03:19] * nosrednaekim contemplates doing hardy [03:19] linux 2.6.24-2.3 built on i386 and amd64 [03:19] too bad we dont' have modules yet... [03:19] ya [03:19] actually, I don't need the modules I don't think..I haven't had any problems yet [03:19] got intel wifi, need the ucode [03:20] though might as well just dl it myself [03:20] I have broadcrap [03:20] heh [03:20] * nosrednaekim hugs his atheros [03:20] and the kernel drivers for broadcom cards suck so bad..they make ndiswrapper look like a god send [03:20] lol [03:20] even in .24 ? [03:20] but, if you blacklist bcm now with the new kernel, you won't have wireless even with ndiswrapper [03:20] ya, the latest kernel for hardy [03:21] nixternal: also watching our newest hero? [03:21] you will get a ton of dmesg errors about wifi and all that junk [03:21] newest hero? [03:21] nixternal: in ops :-P [03:21] Crash0rz! [03:22] evil Tm_T [03:22] * vorian hides [03:22] how I'm evil? [03:23] evil genius [03:24] that's what i meant :) [03:24] I am currently reading the Kubuntu Tutorials Day logs wrt bug triage. I'd like to do some triaging. What do I need to be able to do that? [03:25] hahahahahaha [03:26] ardchoille: a keyboard, a mouse, a grasp of at least 4 english words :) [03:26] nixternal: I think I can muster those :) [03:26] "PEBK" [03:26] only one work needed ^^ [03:26] *word [03:26] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BugSquad [03:26] that should have some decent info there [03:27] ty [03:27] hug day date needs `updating` [03:28] dist-upgrade complete [03:28] lets try this again [03:28] is it ok to use "plugins/scanfolder/*.cpp" in copyright [03:28] or is that being lazy :P [03:28] being lazy, and something I have done in the past [03:28] cheguevara: are all of the files gpl? [03:29] yeah [03:29] are all of the people in the copyrights listed in the COPYING file? [03:29] sec [03:30] I was lookin' at your ktorrent copyright file and it looks...ummm..insane :) [03:30] i am gonna cry if i am analysing each single .c and .h file for nothing [03:30] what does the current ktorrent copyright look like? [03:30] cheguevara: you should still analyze...however I don't go balistic on the copyright like that...some people do though [03:30] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/network/ktorrent/COPYING?revision=748233&view=markup [03:30] if it is GPL, I let it be known, and if all of the authors are in the COPYING file, I add them to the copyright file and call it a day [03:31] its just a usually gpl template, not even modified... [03:31] nixternal, do u wanna see what i have for copyright so far? [03:32] I seen it in motu chan [03:32] oh kk [03:32] ya, insane :) [03:32] just wanna get it done now lol [03:32] shmat! [03:32] nixternal, but do u think i am doing extra work or is it fine? [03:32] cheguevara: according to the current ktorren copyright file in kubuntu, you are actually making it look similar [03:33] yeah apachelogger told me to :P [03:33] ya, go figure..he is a copyright nut :) [03:33] lol [03:33] so what about wildcards then [03:33] but I am guessing that jdong did teh original ktorrent packaging [03:33] if all files in a folder got exactly same header [03:34] I don't think wildcards are the way to go [03:34] kk [03:34] its not that many files anyway :P [03:34] ls >> copyright :) [03:34] hmm [03:35] ahh, libstreamanalyzer-dev == 0.5.6-0ubuntu1 [03:35] I found the damn culprit I think [03:35] * nixternal chokes the dog [03:36] poor dog [03:36] hmm [03:37] extragear/plasma [03:38] nixternal, and thats excluding the fact that 4 files so far have the copyright header completely missing :P [03:38] oh I love those [03:38] lol [03:38] vorian: I would recommend you install it [03:39] yeah [03:39] emailed upstream [03:39] i did, then noticed they were absent from the rc2 list [03:42] statsplugin.cc [03:42] jesus [03:42] who uses .cc [03:43] that is either some old code, or someone used netbeans to write that [03:43] Copyright © 2007 by Krzysztof Kundzicz [03:43] not really old :P [03:43] that is odd [04:02] ... and done [04:02] copyright file 308 lines... [04:06] Absolutely. Either GNOME catches up or Kubuntu 8.10 will become mainstream Ubuntu. [04:06] that rocks! [04:06] I am actually reading /. while compiling kde4..I am such a loser :p [04:10] Not a massively market researched project that everyone accepts but nobody really loves, but something genuinely stylish. Make KDE 4 the Alfa Romeo to Gnome's Camaro. Dammit, where are the Italians when you need them?! [04:10] hahahahah, there are some pretty funny comments on the kde4 less memory post on /. [04:11] lol [04:11] it's building fast now [04:12] i'm to kdebindings [04:15] nixternal: Pfft ./ says that kubuntu will replace ubuntu in a year? [04:15] don't know why it hasn't yet [04:16] :) [04:16] imagine Kubuntu 8.10 rocking KDE 4.1 [04:16] and Ubuntu 8.10 rocking Gnome 2.old [04:16] well 2.new [04:16] by definition [04:16] whatevah [04:16] nothing has changed [04:17] Sure [04:17] it has less options [04:17] and has webkit :) [04:17] lol [04:17] is less options even still possible? [04:17] lol [04:18] cheguevara: yes there is [04:18] apt-get install gnome will conflict iwth your keyboard and remove it [04:18] DaSkreech: and KDE 4 will have it for 4.1, and webkit is in our repos if you would like to play with it and konqi :) [04:21] man I want KDE 4.3 [04:21] interesting..Gnome 2.x and KDE 3.x came out about the same exact time [04:21] nixternal: doesn't make a difference :) [04:22] doesn't gnome have redhat sponsord devs [04:22] sure it does...KDE is making changes, and Gnome isn't [04:22] are they that useless :P [04:22] and KDE has Mandrake, Novell/openSUSE, Kubuntu, and more sponsored devs :) [04:22] true [04:22] desktop environments seem to bump versions with the toolkits [04:22] and gtk doesn't seem in any mood to jump to a 3.0 [04:23] not in our life time at least :P [04:23] haha, so true [04:23] cheguevara: don't plan on living long? [04:23] the best die young [04:23] ;) [04:24] nice one [04:24] not as told by those still alive :) [04:24] I'm making a note here [04:24] lol [04:25] the US sucks! I say we blow it up! [04:25] just wait until I move though [04:25] to where lol [04:25] to where the US lands when it blows up [04:25] Greenland for all I care :) [04:26] haha [04:26] I still like what Carlos Mencia said we should..."remove all of the warning labels from stuff and let the stupid people weed themselves out" [04:27] nixternal, anything will need to be rebuilt for new soprano? [04:27] all of kde4 [04:27] mwahahaha [04:27] well, anything after what we currently have in the repos [04:27] the future releases of KDE4 [04:27] lol i was about to say [04:27] another round of rebuilds :P [04:28] Hobbse will kill you :P [04:28] I am used to her now...she has been kicking my arse for the past 2 years [04:28] lol [04:28] shoot...I remember when she popped in...a 17 year old, never messing with Linux, and now she is a core-dev..she rocks hardcore [04:29] I wish I had her instinct to learn that damn quick [04:29] the same goes with Jucato...I have been using linux for more than 12 years, and in 1 year he was blowing me away [04:30] I am gonna go chow down on some chocolate covered pretzels [04:30] bbiab [04:30] lol [04:31] lol [04:31] !hobbsee [04:31] I phear the stick so shhhhh [04:31] right uploading to revu.... [04:32] I wonder why nixternal has been lagging behind [04:32] !nixternal [04:32] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! [04:32] * DaSkreech whistles :) [04:38] * cheguevara tries to find a pic of Hobbsee [04:38] I have one [04:39] lets see [04:40] http://tinyurl.com/nz4tm [04:41] * dthacker dances the I finally finished the fscking tutorial!!! dance [04:42] dthacker: sudo fsck /dev/device [04:42] can I join you? :) [04:42] DaSkreech, sexy [04:42] cheguevara: yep :) [04:43] I think she gave me another one but I don't recall where that one is [04:43] Ok, now that I have built one package (today's tutorial) where should I go for real work? [04:44] package Heros of alcrost [04:44] dthacker, join me in packaging kde 4 extragear packages :P [04:46] cheguevara: yeah, you have me a link, but my ff was borked at the time. Where are they [04:46] sec, i lost it myself lol [04:46] and what libs do I need to install [04:47] dthacker, do u have kde4 installed? [04:47] ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.97/src/extragear [04:48] cheguevara: nope [04:48] hmm actually u don't really have to [04:48] can run kde 4 apps on kde 3 [04:50] cheguevara: how many of these are you building a day? [04:50] well since i only learnt basics of packaging today [04:50] :P [04:51] just finished with ktorrent [04:51] you give me hope! [04:51] and actually using it [04:51] no idea how good my package is though [04:51] gonna bug someone to review it tomorow [04:52] I think I'll start with kphotoalbum [04:53] plasma-extra is in hardy repos [04:53] and since thats from extragear its a good example [04:53] i used it [04:54] jesus [04:54] its 5 am [04:55] i think sleep might be in order [04:56] yeah, I think so! grab some! [04:57] heh good night === aRyn_ is now known as aRyn === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian [05:30] argh, libxine1 is a mess [05:33] libxine4.0 [06:51] Hi [06:51] Can anyone help me with packaging? [06:51] I've been following the guide at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PackagingGuide/Basic [06:52] but I keep getting an error :( [06:55] ubiq: can you pastebin your error? [06:55] !pastebin [06:55] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [06:57] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48174/ [06:57] I get that error after running "sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc" [06:59] is there a debian/tmp/usr/share/man? from the looks of it, it isn't there [07:00] no, but i was under the impression the debian/rules file built that [07:01] ubiq: ya, it does...I forgot you probably didn't run debuild -nc. so that is why you wouldn't see it [07:01] did you make changes to the hello app? if not I can grab the source and take a look at it [07:01]