[00:04] <kub^> BluesKaj are there any other clients for burning i can use ?
[00:04] <BluesKaj> k9copy
[00:05] <BluesKaj> or kiso
[00:05] <vzduch> burning what?
[00:05] <kub^> thank you :)
[00:05] <kub^> dvd isos
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> gnomebaker!
[00:06] <BluesKaj> kub^, you'll prolly have to DL those apps
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> >_>
[00:06] <vzduch> if you have an ISO you can burn it w/ any burning program
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> if k3b won't burn it, the others won't either
[00:06] <BluesKaj> his k3b is not doing the job
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> they all use the same backend, i think
[00:07] <kub^> my k3b freezes the pc requiring a hard reset even when i only look at the further actions menu with a blank dvd  in
[00:07] <vzduch> if there is no limitation built into growisofs preventing you from burning DL DVDs, it shouldn't be a problem
[00:08] <BluesKaj> growisofs is the actual app that most use
[00:09] <kub^> when k3b works thats what it uses yeah, maybe i should just use growisofs from the command line
[00:10] <vzduch> does that same DVD recorder work in other OSes (e.g. Windoze)?
[00:10] <vzduch> probably a hardware problem if it freezes on popping in a blank DVD
[00:11] <kub^> it seems to work 1 out of say 4 goes, kinda hoping it isnt hardware >.< i'll try another client first :)
[00:12] <vzduch> it might already help to just open the case and make sure that all cables are properly connected
[00:13] <kub^> yeah good idea
[00:14] <BluesKaj> kub^, does nero or whatever client you use work in windows ?
[00:14] <kub^> yeah with no problems
[00:15] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, might be an issue with automounting then
[00:16] <sub[t]rnl> automounting? his fstab?
[00:17] <hitmanWilly> or dbus/hal
[00:17] <sub[t]rnl> yeah I guess growisofs wont be able to burn a mounted DVD.
[00:17] <hitmanWilly> he said that it freezes when he just sticks the dvd in
[00:17] <sub[t]rnl> kub^: make sure noauto is in your fstab for you burning rom
[00:17] <kub^> ok sec
[00:18] <kub^> is that /etc/fstab coz i dont see a line noauto
[00:18] <kub^> ?
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[00:18]  * BluesKaj studies growisofs man pages ...seems simple enuff ...the examples are clear 
[00:19] <sub[t]rnl> still, theres a pitfall if his fstab is auto mounting the dvd's
[00:19] <sub[t]rnl> won't be able to burn
[00:19] <kub^> when i pop a dvd in a window pops up asking me if i want to open it in k3b
[00:20] <hitmanWilly> just cancel that out
[00:20] <sub[t]rnl> kub^: show me the line in fstab for your dvdrom
[00:21] <hitmanWilly> assuming you want to use growisofs
[00:21] <sub[t]rnl> right
[00:21] <kub^> apologies i missed it it does have no auto "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0"
[00:21] <sub[t]rnl> noauto is in there
[00:21] <sub[t]rnl> then thats not the problem
[00:22] <n1ghtm4r3> !beryl
[00:22] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:23] <n1ghtm4r3> !compiz
[00:23] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:28] <bascule_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshbHTDSwCk
[00:28] <bascule_> funny
[00:30] <stdin> !offtopic | bascule_
[00:30] <ubotu> bascule_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:30] <bascule_> fair enough, but still funny :P
[00:42] <n1ghtm4r3> !compiz
[00:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:44] <kub^> ok guys just wrote a 4.4gb img file to dvd from the command line with growisofs with zero problems
[00:45] <kub^> i'll continue with the command line, thanks for all your input :)
[00:46] <carlos_> hola
[00:47] <NickPresta> !es | carlos_
[00:47] <ubotu> carlos_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:48] <Antoine> hi
[01:04] <somekool> !ja
[01:04] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[01:04] <somekool> !jp
[01:08] <BluesKaj> kub^, yes the CLI is nice to use , i like the "tovid" app for doing avi transcodes to dvd . It works very nicely .
[01:21] <huibuh> hi, can anybody help me to install kde4
[01:23]  * BluesKaj watches everyone recede into the darkness :)
[01:23] <blizzzek> bye
[01:35] <kantlivelong> hey all
[01:35] <kantlivelong> is there a vnc server on the default ubuntu install?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> no
[01:56] <dmcglone> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:57]  * genii sips
[01:58] <K`zan> Should ksoftirqd/1 be taking up 15% of one cpu rather continuously ?
[01:58] <user_> hi all.  I installed Nero Linux, and everything went fine.  However, when it scans for supported devices, it reports that it can't get access to /dev/sg0... how do I permanently allow access?  Many thanks!
[01:59] <etfb> K`zan: 15% isn't that much, is it?
[01:59] <K`zan> out of 200% (both CPUs) no, not really, just never noticed it before.
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> user_: well, "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sg0" should do it.
[01:59] <K`zan> Nice thing about linux, you are always learning something new :-).
[02:00] <user_> nosredaekim: i shall try.  on the forums, people were saying edit this file, comment this or that, but i thought there would be a simpler answer :)
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> K`zan: thats the kernel interrupt I think....
[02:00] <etfb> K`lan: often while dogpaddling frantically around a whirlpool...
[02:00] <K`zan> LOL, that is TOO TRUE LOL!
[02:01] <K`zan> Just converted back to kubuntu after a foray into fedora (ewwww!).
[02:01] <etfb> K`zan: what was it like?  I last tried it when it was Red Hat, MANY years ago.
[02:01] <K`zan> This version (7.10) seems to like my USB devices :).
[02:01] <K`zan> Fedora is ****NOT*** our red hat of yesteryear :).
[02:01] <user_> nosrednaekim: do i have to reboot for that change to take effect? i restarted nero, and got the same message :/
[02:02] <K`zan> etfb: I upgraded it and broke a lot of things, I suppose I should have known better...  Managed to kluge fixes to get it going but I just am NOT a fan of RPMs.
[02:02] <K`zan> Deb is the best :).
[02:02] <K`zan> Deb / deb derived is the best :).
[02:02] <etfb> K`zan: that's my experience too.
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> user_: nope,no need to restart
[02:03] <K`zan> Now if I can remember what my CUPS net work printer URL is, I'll be set :).
[02:04] <K`zan> Do that so seldom that I forget it and have never figured out where CUPS keeps that info.
[02:04] <K`zan> cd cups
[02:05] <user_> nosrednaekim: hmmm... that didn't work then.  how do i load the sg module?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> user_: the what?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> user_: try running nero as root
[02:06] <user_> k hang on
[02:07] <user_> nosrednaekim: Ok _that_ works.... now i'm confused!
[02:07] <user_> would chown dwflo:dwflo /dev/sg0  work?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> user_: i'm not sure, but there is really no harm in running it as root, in fact its slightly better
[02:08] <user_> nosrednaekim: is there a way to do it automatically, or will i have to open a terminal and "sudo nero"?  (not that it's a lot of work, but...)
[02:09] <bmk789> what does a grub read error mean?  it just started after i switched my motherboard
[02:09] <bmk789> user_: you could create a shortcut to run "kdesu nero"
[02:09] <user_> bmk789: how do i do that?
[02:10] <bmk789> user_: right click your desktop and create new link to application
[02:10] <user_> ok
[02:10] <user_> i've done _that_ before
[02:10] <genii> bmk789: make sure hd is plugged into identical channel eg: primary or secondary if IDE also that head/sectors/cylinder mapping is same
[02:11] <bmk789> genii: everythings plugged in the same
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> user_: make an icon whose command is "kdesudo nero"
[02:11] <user_> ok
[02:11] <pastry> can someone please help me step by step on how to share a folder so that my windows pc can see it? i can see the shared folder from windows but its inaccessible. in the add/edit share window in kubuntu, all unspecified users is set to allow, and the only specified user is root, which has admin access rights. but i cannot access the folder from windows, though i do see it
[02:12] <genii> bmk789: Then likely bios maps the drive differently than the previous one did
[02:12] <etfb> user_: he meant kdesu nero, not kdesudo...
[02:12] <user_> aha! "sudo chown username:username /dev/sg0" also works!
[02:12] <etfb> user_: sounds like a Japanese anime, doesn't it!
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> etfb: actually,I meant kdesudo
[02:12] <user_> you guys are right, i'm sure!
[02:12] <bmk789> genii: the /dev files are the same as before
[02:12] <user_> aren't they the same?
[02:12] <etfb> nosrednaekim: really?  Sorry!  What's the difference?
[02:13] <genii> bmk789:  /dev files have nothing to do with how bios sees the geometry of the drive
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo | etfb
[02:13] <ubotu> etfb: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[02:13] <user_> can i use them interchangably?
[02:14] <user_> kdesu is definitely a faster type
[02:14] <etfb> nosrednaekim: foo!  You learn something new every nanosecond round here.  I'll have to go look up the history behind that.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> user_: I think in gutsy, kdesu is juct linked to kdesudo
[02:14] <user_> gotcha.  i just learned something today (well, a couple things).  Thanks guys
[02:15] <K`zan> anyone know where cups stores remote printers, it is not in /etc/cups/printers.conf no matter what they say :-).
[02:15] <genii> bios = motherboard hardware
[02:15] <K`zan> Only thing there is my local printer.
[02:15] <user_> alright, I'm off to burn libraries of data.  Thanks all!
[02:15] <dmcglone> cups don't store network printers
[02:15] <dmcglone> unless you use the web interface
[02:16] <flaccid> store?
[02:16] <genii> !ping
[02:16] <ubotu> pong
[02:16] <genii> just checking
[02:16] <user_> aw crap, i'm back
[02:16] <K`zan> dmcglone: Then how does it know about the network printer after reboots, it has GOT to be someplace...
[02:16] <etfb> genii: ever get the feeling the people who designed IRC had too much time on their hands?
[02:17] <genii> etfb: Sometimes, yes
[02:17] <user_> now, when i insert a disc, i get *two* windows that open, asking what to do with it.
[02:17] <K`zan> Cups is SO frustrating...
[02:17] <etfb> genii: ah well, in contrast I don't have time, so since I've finished my lunch break, I'd better go back to work...
[02:17] <user_> i had this before, and i always got an "unmounting error" whenever i tried to eject the disc.  How do i fix this one?
[02:18] <genii> etfb: Enjoy! ;)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> user_: try "sudo eject /dev/sg0"
[02:18] <user_> nosrednaekim: yes, that will eject the disc, but how do i stop two instances of mounting the disc in the first place?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> user_: oh..
[02:19] <user_> in the windows that pop up, the disc is blue, and in the other window, the disc is golden... what the heck?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> user_: ah... its cause you are running nero as root, so the root "user" tries to mount it as well
[02:20] <crush_groove> user ./do you have a disc in the cd tray ?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> K`zan, check /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[02:21] <user_> nosrednaekim: this is happening without even opening nero
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> user_: oh.. you probably have another app open as root.its a known bug
[02:22] <user_> screenshot ----> http://legalcondom.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/ac/ac1963e70f0baa58da355b640020125366a85bad.png
[02:22] <crush_groove> user_ . take the cd out of the tray .. Kubuntu will mount any cd dvd ddr ect that has a cd in it .
[02:22] <user_> sorry about the urlname... i uploaded to waffleimages.com XD
[02:23] <crush_groove> *cdr
[02:23] <user_> crush_groove: ok, but how do i stop the two separate instances of mounting?
[02:24] <crush_groove>  take 1 of the cds out
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> user_: see, note one icon is different?
[02:25] <user_> crush_groove: i only have one cd - only one drive
[02:25] <user_> am i not understanding  ?:
[02:25] <crush_groove>  see the box at the bottome that says what do you want to do next time ?
[02:25] <user_> the "configure" button?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> crush_groove: umm I don't think you see whats going on here
[02:26] <crush_groove>  gotcha mike
[02:26] <crush_groove>  Ill back out
[02:26] <user_> nosrednaekim: so do you know how to fix this?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> user_: did you notice that the icons are different?
[02:26] <user_> yes
[02:27] <user_> when i first installed gutsy, this happened, but stopped when i removed Dolphin.  But know i have no idea what to do
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> on if them is the default icon scheme for you, the other is the system default..... its a KDEsudo bug for sure, and I think the creator of kdesudo is already working on it
[02:28] <user_> *now
[02:28] <user_> so i just gotta wait, then, eh?
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> user_: basically, yes... but when one of those dialogs pop up, select the menu which has the "silvery" looking icon
[02:29] <user_> what if i used the default icon scheme... then this problem wouldn't happen?
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> user_: it would, but you couldn't tell the dialogs apart, so you'd be worse off
[02:29] <user_> ugh.
[02:29] <user_> ok then.  thanks for the help once again!
[02:30] <mico> heyheyhey
[02:33] <mico> Soooo.... How about that Leopard?
[02:35] <crush_groove> Leopard ? mac ?
[02:35] <bassmac> so, ubuntu releases come out usually after new version of gnome...but what about kubuntu and new versions of kde?
[02:35] <user_> nosrednaekim: ok, last time i'll be here tonight :)  I think I learned something else new from you
[02:35] <BluesKaj> kde4 will be out in jan
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> bassmac: when it happens, it happens, and ussually you can always get the newest relelase of KDE from backports
[02:35] <mico> Yes! Whoa! Proof of life! ... I'm not alone here :)
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> user_: which is...
[02:36] <bassmac> nosrednaekim, but will it 'just work' or will I have to change things to use it
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> bassmac: yeah... it'll just work
[02:36] <bassmac> good, cause I don't mind fiddling around, but I know people who don't
[02:36] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, we hope .....
[02:36] <user_> nosrednaekim: it turns out i had two instances of konqueror running in the background when i was inserting the disc (i only found out when i rebooted, and on startup, i had to give superuser password).  I killed the instances, inserted the disc, and *poof* - only one window opened!
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> user_: there you go... one of those konquerors was probably running as root
[02:37] <user_> yup!
[02:37] <K`zan> I *hate* cups...
[02:37] <user_> you were right yet again
[02:37] <user_> *bows down*
[02:37] <user_> thanks
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:37] <user_> ok, just wanted to tell you that.
[02:37] <crush_groove> ;)
[02:37] <user_> gnite
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> night..
[02:38] <BluesKaj> K`zan, what's the trouble with cups ?
[02:38] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Just changed distros (to kubuntu) and couldn't remember the URL for the printer and can't find it...
[02:39] <mico> Kubuntu & ark... Right click a file, choose "extract here", then do the same on another file, when the first one completes, the otherone stops tooo, leaving U with the otherone broken.... :-(
[02:39] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Copied the printcap over from the old distro and it works, but the web interface does not report it right, but it works.
[02:39] <K`zan> Did I mention I *hate* cups :-).
[02:40] <maduser> cups.....
[02:40] <BluesKaj> K`zan, just run the wizard again with the network printer and pc it's connected to , turned on.
[02:40] <K`zan> The web interface thinks the url is "/dev/nul" but it works :-).
[02:40] <mico> Poll! Anyone who does NOT hate CUPS raise ha hand!
[02:40] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Did that, didn't find the printer....
[02:40] <K`zan> Offered me a pdf printer :)
[02:40] <K`zan> (to file)
[02:42] <BluesKaj> K`zan, sign on as 'guest"? in the wizard
[02:42] <mico> W-O-W, suddenly a lot of ppl leave....
[02:42] <BluesKaj> as set the driver before printing a test page
[02:43] <mico> ... do I smell bad?
[02:44] <BluesKaj> did you have a sauna , mico ...then you should be ok :)
[02:44]  * crush_groove sprays mico with febreeze
[02:44] <mico> Hehe, indeedie doodie
[02:44] <mico> Hehe
[02:45] <mico> Soooo.... Mmmm.... About them lepperds :-p
[02:47] <mico> I have this problem with Windows Vista... It nags all the time, about everything....
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> mico: please quit spamming
[02:47] <mico> ok..
[02:48] <mico> Any topics I can rant about?
[02:48] <hdevalence> mico: try #windows
[02:48] <mico> Ouch.. That hurt....
[02:50] <pastry> how do i make it so that file browsers such as dolphin or konqueror can read east asian fonts such as japanese? im on a fresh install and all i see are question marks where its supposed to be japanese font as file names
[02:50] <pastry> so i cant copy the files
[02:50] <Ahmuck> language
[02:50] <pastry> i need it to read the font
[02:50] <Ahmuck> your language settings
[02:50] <Teixen> Hi! can anyone tell me how  to open rpm files?
[02:51] <Ahmuck> K-Menu --> System Settings
[02:51] <Ahmuck> Regional and Language, and add japanese
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> !rpm | Teixen
[02:51] <cheguevara> sudo apt-get install rpm
[02:51] <ubotu> Teixen: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:51] <Teixen> thanks!!
[02:52] <Ahmuck> isnt there another program that deals with rpms as well for debain?
[02:52] <mico> Anyone having more than two displays?
[02:52] <Ahmuck> mico:  sup ?
[02:52] <Ahmuck> what's your question
[02:52] <Ahmuck> !gwenview
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwenview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <mico> Yo, ahmuck! Nutting much. Tried to get three displays working on Kubuntu, but...
[02:55] <Ahmuck> is there a way to check apt packages that have been downloaded against md5 sums in a batch?
[02:55] <Ahmuck> like a md5 server apt package integrity checker
[02:56] <crimsun> debsums.
[02:56] <Ahmuck> thx
[02:57] <maduser> you i got some kind of fatal error and now i have no sound
[02:58] <maduser> i mean yo
[02:58] <mico> Sometimes I just get that sinkin feeling, when I read Linux manuals, that I'm not being told about all the important bits....
[02:59] <Ahmuck> mico, well, yes, sometimes that is true
[02:59] <Ahmuck> linux can be lean on documentation
[03:01] <mico> Though, even how hard it is to sometimes get things done, when it's done, it keeps on going.
[03:01] <mico> "some systems" just keep making trouble :)
[03:02] <mico> ...even after they're fixed :-p
[03:04] <mico> ... and I think it would be possible to get three displays if I'd splash out n a couple of matrox cards...
[03:05] <mico> BUT! They "just work" when I boot to "that othar operating system"
[03:09] <limac> !kate
[03:09] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:09] <limac> !code
[03:09] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[03:09] <crush_groove>  erm pico is in kde too
[03:10] <limac> !kdevelop
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <limac> whats pico?
[03:10] <bazhang> !info pico
[03:10] <ubotu> Package pico does not exist in gutsy
[03:10] <crush_groove>  a nice ( for me) term editor
[03:10] <crush_groove>  looks again
[03:11] <crush_groove> aha
[03:11] <crush_groove>  /pico foo brings up nano
[03:11] <mico> Question: When three gfx cards work in a "insert swearword here"-system, what can one in theory do to make them work in Ubuntu?
[03:12] <crush_groove> no clue ./. not a hardware guy
[03:13] <mico> (tried writing a nice bunch of xorg.conf files... knew them by heart at the end :( )
[03:14] <SavageOne> hey folks
[03:14] <SavageOne> when I run rsync -t *.* linuxmce@192.168.80.1:/home/public/data/videos/  it's doing what I want in terms of pushing my local directory to that remote server, but it's ignoring the local subfolders and sub sub folders, only copying files on the root of that directory
[03:14] <SavageOne> what other switches to I need?
[03:14] <SavageOne> the man rsync isn't helping I've read it all
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> SavageOne: probably like -r or -R for recursive
[03:15] <crush_groove>  did you man rsync?
[03:15] <SavageOne> -r is for recursive, so I did
[03:15] <SavageOne>      --checksum-seed=NUM     set block/file checksum seed
[03:15] <SavageOne>  -4, --ipv4                  prefer IPv4
[03:15] <SavageOne>  -6, --ipv6                  prefer IPv6
[03:15] <SavageOne>  -h, --help                  show this help screen
[03:15] <SavageOne> Please see the rsync(1) and rsyncd.conf(5) man pages for full documentation
[03:15] <SavageOne> See http://rsync.samba.org/ for updates, bug reports, and answers
[03:15] <SavageOne> rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1073)
[03:15] <capricori> its -r for recursive
[03:15] <SavageOne> root@mythtv:/myth/video# rsync -av *.* linuxmce@192.168.80.1:/home/public/data/videos/
[03:15] <SavageOne> linuxmce@192.168.80.1's password:
[03:16] <SavageOne> building file list ... done
[03:16] <SavageOne> sent 146 bytes  received 20 bytes  66.40 bytes/sec
[03:16] <SavageOne> total size is 478218412  speedup is 2880833.81
[03:16] <SavageOne> woops sorry guys
[03:16] <SavageOne> my bad
[03:16] <SavageOne> yeah I was using -trv
[03:16] <mico> Thanks crush, (for hearing)
[03:16] <SavageOne> so I'd get the time, the recursion, and the verbosity
[03:16] <mico> I'll make sure to do a good & findable howto if I ever get it working
[03:19] <jrsims> need some help getting dual monitor support with my laptop
[03:19] <jrsims> how should I go about this? I have my laptop on and my monitor plugged into my video out port.
[03:19] <yabadaba>  neither knetworkmanager nor gnomenetworkmanager applets show available wireless networks but i can see them via system/admin/network/wireless applet.  would anyone know why this might be happening?  it sounds like either a permissions issue or like the applets aren't able to talk to the device in some other way ... anyone have suggestions for fixing this?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> yabadaba: dbus issue.
[03:20] <mico> jrsims: ati?
[03:20] <yabadaba> ding, thats what i was looking for thanks!
[03:20] <yabadaba> googling the rest, appreciate athat
[03:20] <jrsims> mico: no
[03:20] <crush_groove>  SavageOne  u usin 3.0?
[03:20] <jrsims> mico: but not sure of the maker
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> yabadaba: try a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[03:20] <SavageOne> crush: yes
[03:21] <pastry> is there a better volume control program than kmix? or is kmix the best? i cant find an option anywhere so i can set my sound output to 4.0
[03:21] <capricori> yabadaba: let me know if that fixes it, I had the same issue, couldn't find an answer
[03:22] <mico> jrsims: Tell more.. Works with "another" operating system?
[03:22] <crush_groove> http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync-3.0.0pre6-NEWS << has some remarks on -r
[03:23] <jrsims> Ok, so I went into my monitor and display settings and I get this error: "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded".
[03:23] <jrsims> How do I fix this? I cannot touch any settings.
[03:23] <mico> jrsims: And, looking for cloning or a separate display
[03:23] <jhutchins> pastry: Your mixer selections are pretty much determined by the hardware.
[03:23] <jrsims> mico: do you know what is up with my last issue here?
[03:24] <jrsims> mico: not being able to adjust my monitor and display settings in Administrator mode?
[03:24] <jhutchins> All kmix or alsamixer do is provide a GUI to change the settings.
[03:25]  * jhutchins is not sure just what "set my sound output to 4.0" means, but suspects it's an output mode.
[03:25] <mico> jrsims: Well, no... I dont know jack shit about your system  :)
[03:26] <jrsims> mico: it's saying "Possible reasons: An Error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module OR You have old third party modules lying around." This is stupid because this is a fresh install with updates applied.
[03:26] <jrsims> mico: know how I could reinstall the said modules?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: try running "kcmshell displayconfig"
[03:28] <mico> jrsims: something other than displaythings have gone seriously awry...
[03:29] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: ok, now what?
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: did that work?
[03:30] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: got a window that said I needed to be in Admin mode to do anything. so I switched to that mode and got "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"
[03:30] <jrsims> so same story
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: try "kdesudo kcmshell displayconfig"
[03:30] <jrsims> (kde seems really fragile)
[03:30] <jrsims> k
[03:31] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: same exact thing.
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: yech. are you running XGL?
[03:32] <jrsims> no
[03:32] <mico> jrsims: kde is a bit "fragile"... But seems like something was missing in the install..... Checksummed the install-cd?
[03:32] <jrsims> should I reinstall KDE over apt?
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: are you sure you're not? do you even have it installed?
[03:33] <jrsims> mico: no, I didn't checksum. After install, it was fine. Just now it isn't.
[03:33] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: absolutely positive. I did not install that.
[03:34] <mico> nosrednaekim: Could possibly missing/broken parts be fixed by reinstalling with apt?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: hmm k...
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: is this a ubuntu install or a fresh kubuntu?
[03:34] <jrsims> nosrednaekim: it's a pretty fresh kubuntu with updates applied.
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jrsims: humm.
[03:35] <jrsims> and like I said, I was able to get into this part of KDE before. Not now though.
[03:35] <mico> jrsims: did thing work BEFORE the update?
[03:35] <jrsims> yes
[03:35] <jrsims> The problem started when I went to use the dual display settings.
[03:35] <jrsims> then crapped out.
[03:36] <jrsims> I am just running on a thinkpad
[03:36] <jrsims> no weird hardware
[03:36] <jrsims> intel gma
[03:36] <mico> jrsims: All PC's are weird hardware... :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> odd, did that kcmshell spit out any errors to the konsole?
[03:38] <mico> jrsims: Did you "fiddle" with the system earlier?, before the upgrade?
[03:38] <jrsims> mico: installed some packages like irssi, nmap, etc.
[03:39] <jrsims> would reinstalling KDE help? or is there a way to revert to default video settings and start over?
[03:40] <mico> jrsims: me not know jack s*t
[03:41] <mico> jrsims: Hey! Ati & laptop... What happens if the secondary display is ON and connected when You cold boot the machine?
[03:44] <jrsims> mico: I lose the bottom and right sides of the display. it runs at a higher rez but my laptop screen only displays 1280x800 of it.
[03:45] <mico> jrsims: Kinky & clueless...
[03:46] <mico> jrsims: primary or secondary displayu?
[03:46] <crush_groove> bbiab
[03:46] <jrsims> mico: does it matter?
[03:47] <mico> jrsims: yes
[03:47] <devolic> What's the most favored build among everyone?
[03:47] <mico> devolic: each, for thos who built
[03:48] <jrsims> mico: my attached monitor is still blank, but then my laptop has the cropped picture.
[03:50] <mico> jrsims: what did you do to acchieve that? ... Which steps did you take, what do you have & what do you wnat
[03:51] <mico> jrsims: thinkpad? what model? What chip eats your muffin? How can you be cured?
[03:52] <jrsims> doesn't sound like anyone in here can help me. Just going to reinstall kde and pray.
[03:52] <mico> jsims: Who fucked the graphic-cip that should show you the world(+s)
[03:52] <stdin> !language | mico
[03:52] <ubotu> mico: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <twylight> WHAT
[03:53] <mico> jrsims: googling similar problems night help (bows down head in shame)
[03:56] <mico> bang.... bang... Bang....
[04:05]  * oobe is now known as poofucker
[04:06] <grul> !python
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <grul> !apache
[04:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:08] <Voyage__> any one using virtual box? how to share folders in a winodws xp ?
[04:10] <mico> !life
[04:10] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <mico> !channels
[04:11] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:13] <Voyage__> anyhelp pls?
[04:15] <twylight> nuu ^_^
[04:15] <snakattak> how can I chose the installer to install on a Raid0 device? /dev/md0, etc...
[04:15] <bazhang> Voyage__: ask in #vbox
[04:18] <Voyage__> how to kill a proces run by root
[04:18] <ardchoille> sudo kill <process>
[04:21] <Voyage__> k
[04:22] <Voyage__> ardchoille sudo kill dolphin    ?
[04:23] <abdulla> my gnome desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[04:24] <ardchoille> Voyage__: this should work: sudo kill $(pidof d3lphin)
[04:25] <Voyage__> ardchoille how do i know the pid of it
[04:26] <ardchoille> Voyage__: You don't need to worry about it,  it's like saying "sudo kill $(find the pid of d3lphin)"
[04:26] <Voyage__> not working
[04:27] <ardchoille> Voyage__: pidof d3lphin
[04:27] <Voyage__> its dolphin. not d3lphin
[04:28] <ardchoille> Voyage__: /usr/bin/dolphin: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/d3lphin'  It's a symlink  ;)
[04:28] <ardchoille> Voyage__: ok: sudo kill $(pidof dolphin)
[04:29] <stuffcorpse> sudo pkill dolphin?
[04:29] <Neville> Would somebody here be able to tell me how to set a partition as my swap partition?
[04:29] <Neville> I already have it set to Linux Swap, but it's not being recognised as of yet
[04:30] <Voyage__> k
[04:30] <Voyage__> sudo kill $(pidof dolphin) woked
[04:30] <sub[t]rnl> Neville: how do you mean, it isn't being recognized?
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> Neville: it doesn't show up in sudo fdisk -l
[04:31] <Neville> It shows up in there, what I mean is how to I get it to be used?
[04:31] <ardchoille> Voyage__: That's strange because when I run dolphin and do "pidof dolphin" nothing is returned. However, a pid *is* returned when I do "pidof d3lphin"
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> Neville: it will be used when your physical ram is full, as a backup
[04:32] <Voyage__> i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:32] <Neville> No, because it's not appearing in Kinfocentre
[04:32] <Neville> It says Swap Partition Not available
[04:33] <Neville> It's because I had to do a frankensteins monster of sorts to my hard drives, in order to keep alot of data that I can't replace anytime soon
[04:34] <Neville> And that meant lots of messy cutting and pasting of partitions, not to mention fiddling with Grub alot
[04:34] <Voyage__> so that not even a virus can effect my linux of data?
[04:34] <snakattak> is dmraid or mdadm preffered for installation? Can you alternate between the 2 programs?
[04:34] <ardchoille> Voyage__: You don't have to worry about viruses in Linux: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[04:35] <snakattak> is there a better place to help me with raid questions?
[04:35] <Neville> -_-v
[04:35] <Neville> Nevermind
[04:36] <Neville> I'll work it out on my own
[04:36] <Neville> Thanks anyway
[04:37] <Voyage__> i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......
[04:40] <twylight> eldfh
[04:42] <Voyage__>  i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......eg. a friend of mine, a virus can do any things what a user logged in can do.......for that  i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting...  how can do it?
[04:44] <Jyzygzel-> doesn
[04:44] <Jyzygzel-> doesn't ubuntu come with NTFS-3g
[04:44] <ardchoille> Voyage__: A Linux system is too hostile an environment for a virus to thrive and propogate. Any downloaded file must be made executable before it can even run, and then, without admi provs, can't do any damage to anything outside of $HOME.
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: don't think so, hafta apt it
[04:45] <Jyzygzel-> there is no package for it
[04:45] <Jyzygzel-> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[04:45] <Jyzygzel-> not found
[04:45] <grul> Voyage__, just chown everything to root :p but i don't think it's a good idea, because programs that need the files won't be able to use them
[04:46] <ubuntu_> i was installing kubuntu
[04:46] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: might have to enable multiverse repo's
[04:46] <ubuntu_> and my computer retsrtaed
[04:46] <sub[t]rnl> !repos
[04:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> oh
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> ok
[04:46] <ubuntu_> any pointers?
[04:46] <ardchoille> !info ntfs-3g feisty
[04:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> added universe and still nothing
[04:46] <Jyzygzel-> multiverse then
[04:47] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: did you update your sources after adding?
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get update
[04:47] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: sudo apt-get update
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_: did the install finish?
[04:47] <Voyage__> grul i only need that for mounted data drives.... no apps concerned.. how can i do it?
[04:47] <ubuntu_> naw
[04:47] <ubuntu_> it was done
[04:47] <Jyzygzel-> umm why doesn't that document tell the address??
[04:47] <Jyzygzel-> for the multiverse
[04:47] <ubuntu_> well it was yp to the poitn were it was configuring
[04:47] <ubuntu_> up*
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> hmm wait a minute i have both multi and universe installed
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:48] <ardchoille> !info ntfs-3g dapper
[04:48] <ubotu> Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper
[04:48] <ardchoille> Jyzygzel-: ^^
[04:48] <Jyzygzel-> how do i get better
[04:49] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Jyzygzel-
[04:49] <ubotu> Jyzygzel-: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:49] <mico> There's no nazier system than the irc
[04:49] <ubuntu_> how
[04:49] <ubuntu_> do i resume installation
[04:49] <ubuntu_> É
[04:49] <Jyzygzel-> wow im running old
[04:50] <mico> :)
[04:50] <Jyzygzel-> no wonder my ATI card doesn't work
[04:50] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:50] <ubuntu_> how do i get thatÉ
[04:50] <ubuntu_> run commandÉ
[04:50] <sub[t]rnl> alt+f2 and type "konsole", then type that in the konsole
[04:51] <Jyzygzel-> ewww i have to restart between updates ;(
[04:51] <Jyzygzel-> linus should have made his kernels hotpluggable
[04:51] <ubuntu_> okay now i type in configure -a
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> ^^
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_ was this an upgrade, or a fresh install?
[04:52] <ubuntu_> well i had windows installed
[04:52] <ubuntu_> and i did the one were it creates a new harddrive
[04:53] <ubuntu_> nothing happened i typed it in the window just closed
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> since its a fresh install, I would just start over
[04:53] <ubuntu_> fuck
[04:54] <ubuntu_> so i have to reformat that shit againÉ
[04:54] <ubuntu_> i was trying to boot computer without cd and windows doesnt even run now
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> watch the language, if you would
[04:54] <ubuntu_> is that normal if windows doesnt run
[04:54] <ubuntu_> while installin linux half way É
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> you don't have a boot loader installed in your MBR
[04:55] <ardchoille> !language | ubuntu_
[04:55] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> re-install linux and it will work
[04:55] <ubuntu_> windows as wellÉ
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> !grub | ubuntu_
[04:55] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:55] <ubuntu_> i have another question
[04:56] <ubuntu_> how many hard drives are made when installing linuz 2É
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> partitions? thats completely up to you.  A basic installation would be 1 partition for your root (/) 1 partition for /home, and one for swap space
[04:57] <ubuntu_> oh okay okay
[04:57] <ubuntu_> let me try it now
[04:57] <ubuntu_> so ones gona be éhome
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> keep in mind you'll want more space going towards your /home partition
[04:58] <ubuntu_> so ones called home and others swap
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> right, the mount point of one partition will be /home
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> ext3 filesystem
[04:58] <ubuntu_> ye i was lostt, cause i didnt know the difference between home and boot
[04:58] <ubuntu_> and the other options
[04:58]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[04:58] <ubuntu_> nodsÉ
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> you might want to read up a little on partitions, and plan out how you want your system laid out
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> nothing wrong with thinking ahead
[05:00] <ubuntu_> alright
[05:00] <ubuntu_> thanks a mill
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> anytime
[05:00] <twylight> I am so tired
[05:00] <twylight> it is not even funny
[05:01] <ubuntu_> do you get paid for thisÉ
[05:01] <twylight> I wish
[05:01] <ubuntu_> lolz
[05:01] <ubuntu_> so you guys help out others out of your own will
[05:01] <twylight> pretty much
[05:01] <Lynoure> Not here, but elsewhere I do... this is volunteering.
[05:01] <ubuntu_> nice
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> actually, I have a paypal setup that you must donate too now. since you listened to me
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> sorry :/
[05:02] <twylight> although I have this chatroom and the tech support I do (not too often anymore) on my resume
[05:02] <ubuntu_> lolz
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[05:02] <ubuntu_> sure
[05:02] <ubuntu_> ill give it a second thought
[05:04] <Dr_willis> You have 'I Irc a lot' on your resume?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:05] <twylight> well it's worded as "tech support for unix based systems"
[05:06] <twylight> I need to eat and sleep
[05:06] <twylight> I should set up an IV so I only have to ever do one
[05:07] <bazhang> put caffeine in the IV
[05:07] <Dr_willis> 'experienced in digital downloading of adult media' :)
[05:08] <twylight> arr, I be a computer pirate
[05:08] <Neville> It's alive.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> I always end up being tech support for my wife.. for gizmios and programs ive never used befor...
[05:08] <twylight> I've over ten terabytes of booty locked away in me harddrives
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Right now she has a new Dig. Camera. and shes asking me 'how do i do this... ' and ive never even HELD the camera befor. :)
[05:11] <Jyzygzel-> how do i read the USB traffic
[05:11] <twylight> you don't
[05:11] <twylight> it reads you
[05:11] <twylight> oh wait that's chuck norris nvm
[05:12] <Jyzygzel-> no thats soviet russia edition
[05:13] <Jyzygzel-> in sovietbuntu devices read you
[05:16] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why my system tray icons are all opened as real windows and displayed on my taskbar, instead of in the system tray?
[05:16] <twylight> are you doing it wrong?
[05:17] <adamonline45> doing what wrong?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ive seen that happen when kwin crashes , or you are running a window manager other then kwin
[05:22] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Oh, hello again!  I'm using KDE (kwin) and CF.  The weird thing is, you'd think if I just closed them and restart my machine, they'd be back into the system tray.  I'm starting to think it's just a setting somewhere, but I've scoured to no avail...
[05:23] <Dr_willis> CF?
[05:23] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Sorry, Compiz Fusion
[05:24] <Dr_willis> all bets are off with COmpiz. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> who knows what bugs are out there.
[05:25] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Hah... Yeah, understandable... So, is that where you'd put your money?
[05:25]  * adamonline45 waits for kde4
[05:25] <Dr_willis> disable  it and see if it still happens
[05:28] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Heh, good thinkin' 8)
[05:35] <jessie> hello people
[05:35] <Saagar> Hi
[05:36] <Saagar> i need to know about multicasting,  can anybody help
[05:37] <jessie> hey, does anybody know if kubuntu 7.10 with kde4 is going to have a diff kernel?
[05:37] <etfb> Saagar: it's a big topic. Can you narrow down your question a little?
[05:38] <etfb> jessie: AFAIK, you'll be able to upgrade to KDE4 when it arrives (January?) but it's independent of the kernel upgrades
[05:38] <Saagar> yes. Whenever I enable multicasting in my ip cam, my LAN gets congested
[05:38] <jessie> etfb, dang... when is the next kernel update going to be out/
[05:38] <jessie> ?
[05:38] <Saagar> any guess etfb?
[05:39] <bazhang> jessie: hardy?
[05:39] <jessie> dang...
[05:39] <jessie> thats a while away...
[05:39] <jessie> back to compliing my own...
[05:39] <twylight> whenever linus says so
[05:39] <bazhang> not so, you can install it now :}
[05:39] <etfb> Saagar: it's well beyond my area of knowledge.  What I'd suggest is rephrasing the question with a different focus.  A lot of people are lurking here but only glancing this way occasionally.  You may catch their eye with different keywords.
[05:40] <jessie> what? hardy? and i meant if there was going to be a kernel update for kubuntu
[05:40] <etfb> jessie: new kernels come down the line every couple of months at least.  I got ?4 with feisty.
[05:40] <bazhang> for gutsy?
[05:40] <jessie> yeah
[05:40] <etfb> jessie: probably about due for a new one, actually
[05:40] <twylight> kubuntu = debian = linux = linus torvalds controls the kernel updates
[05:40] <bazhang> update or new kernel
[05:41] <jessie> my bad... im a bit tired.... and he does? like, update from 2.6.20-15-generic to .16?
[05:41] <bazhang> currently 2.6.22.14-generic
[05:41] <etfb> jessie: that sort of thing comes out when the gods of Ubuntu say.  Won't be that long.  Why do you want a new kernel?
[05:41] <twylight> dsfargeg
[05:42] <Saagar> I enabled the cam to the multicast address 239.244.180.39 . Does it multicast outside my LAN?
[05:42] <twylight> lol
[05:42] <jessie> cause... my gateway laptop wont even boot into the one that shipped with gutsy. so i have gutsy everything except the kernel, etfb
[05:42] <twylight> I love music
[05:43] <twylight> it makes my life less boring
[05:43] <Saagar> to my knowledge 239.x.x.x is within the network . right?
[05:43] <adamonline45> it's not kubuntu = ubuntu = debian etc...?
[05:43] <twylight> 127.0.0.1 <3
[05:43] <etfb> jessie: yikes!  I guess the best thing to do is compile your own kernel.  I'm told it's not hard (and it's a rite of passage for Linux g33ks) but I've never done it.
[05:43] <twylight> no, kubuntu is the same thing as ubuntu with a different UI
[05:44] <jessie> etfb: just did.... im just talking on msn to a girl i like and dont want to restart... lmao!
[05:44] <twylight> ubuntu is debian based or debian compatible, not like I care
[05:44] <adamonline45> Oh, I thought they were distinct distros with their own developers, or what have you
[05:44] <twylight> I'm going to go smoke a cigarette
[05:44] <jessie> have fun twylight
[05:44] <twylight> then wander around aimlessly
[05:44] <jessie> lol... nice
[05:44] <twylight> take a few too many sleeping pills
[05:45] <twylight> and then pass out
[05:45] <jessie> haha wow...
[05:45] <twylight> seriously I'm wired
[05:45] <twylight> and it needs to stop
[05:45] <etfb> adamonline45: Debian is the parent distro, if you like.  Ubuntu is a debian-based distro, but controlled by a company (Shuttleworth's company - starts with C, I'm drawing a blank here...)
[05:45] <twylight> so I'm going to take like two or six sleeping pills
[05:45] <jessie> k guys... time to restart
[05:45] <twylight> ;p
[05:45] <etfb> Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu are all just Ubuntu with different windows managers (KDE, XFce and Gnome)
[05:46] <twylight> exactly
[05:46] <adamonline45> gotcha
[05:46] <adamonline45> what's edubuntu?
[05:46] <twylight> linux is frickin' old though
[05:46] <t3ch13> I can't get my sound to work in Kubuntu anybody have any ideas where I can start? It's a laptop.
[05:46] <twylight> edubuntu is ubuntu for schools
[05:46] <twylight> install a sound card
[05:46] <adamonline45> ahh, cool, ty
[05:46] <twylight> drivers
[05:46] <twylight> reinstall
[05:46] <etfb> adamonline45: I recommend Wikipedia for this level of question.  Edubuntu is a set of packages rolled into a distro focused on use in schools
[05:46] <twylight> if all else fails
[05:46] <t3ch13> It has a sound card that works fine in windows
[05:47] <twylight> pray to the sound card gods
[05:47] <twylight> offer them some transistors
[05:47] <Dr_willis>  Edubuntu also has some neat features to get a whole lan of pc's net booting off a main server machine
[05:47] <twylight> if you really want to appease them, sacrifice a new soundblaster card
[05:48] <twylight> tandy cards will annoy them though
[05:48] <twylight> THIS IS WHY I SHOULD NOT STAY UP LATE
[05:48] <adamonline45> lol
[05:57]  * oobe is now known as poofucker
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[05:59] <ardchoille> !language | oobe
[05:59] <ubotu> oobe: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:59] <oobe> ok sorry
[05:59]  * oobe is sorry
[06:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> blame it on the cat on the keyboard!
[06:00] <oobe> yeah tricky cats
[06:00] <Dr_willis> or a younger brother.. :) they are good for blaming things on!
[06:01] <oobe> i would be proud to own a cat like that :P
[06:01] <oobe> or a younger brother for putting cat on keyboard
[06:01] <oobe> yeah that is the sort of thing i would do as a younger brother
[06:01] <twylight> I took like 8 sleeping pills
[06:02] <twylight> pfft no as a yonger brotehr you ahve to piss ont he keyboard
[06:02] <ardchoille> Ok, let's take the offtopic stuff to another channel please.
[06:02] <oobe> twylight, do you require techical support operating kubuntu under the influence of a sleeping pill over dose
[06:03] <twylight> yeah
[06:03] <oobe> see on topic now
[06:04] <oobe> what seems to be the problem apart from slurred typing which i haven't noticed you doing
[06:04] <twylight> wtih teh slllred typeing I cnat workn teh console
[06:04] <twylight> i teher a program to unfcuk my typingg?
[06:05] <onishidato> twylight: chat clearer, i can't understand
[06:05] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, 'sleep'
[06:05] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[06:05] <twylight> sudo apt-get install ssleep
[06:06] <onishidato> sleep with 2 s ?
[06:06] <twylight> couldn't find package sleep
[06:06] <onishidato> count the sheep
[06:06] <oobe> twylight, go to /dev/null
[06:06] <onishidato> :D
[06:06] <Daisuke-Ido> oobe: you just suggested he undergo a complete existence failure.
[06:07] <twylight> haha
[06:07] <twylight> that's akin to "kill yourself"
[06:07] <crazy_bus> I had a number of downloads in my 'downloader for x' list.  However I ran out of hard drive space on one of my partitions.  This seems to have caused the program to lose the download list.  Is their anyway to get it back?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> kill -9 self
[06:07] <Saagar> Hi... Can anyone help me out on multicasting. I need to multicast within my LAN
[06:07] <Saagar> What address ahould I use?
[06:08] <onishidato> !multicast
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multicast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <oobe> Daisuke-Ido, that is my idea of sleep especially in twylight's state :P
[06:09] <Saagar> Thanks uboto
[06:09] <ardchoille> !bot | Saagar
[06:09] <ubotu> Saagar: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:09] <twylight> !sleep
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <twylight> k
[06:10] <Saagar> Any channels where I can get help?
[06:10] <onishidato> what is your pro?
[06:10] <oobe> hwy ubutu ahh forget i said anything do not reply
[06:10] <onishidato> can you tell us clearer?
[06:10] <Saagar> multicasting. I need to multicast within my LAN
[06:10] <Saagar> I have an ip cam
[06:10] <Saagar> when i enable it to multicast
[06:10] <Saagar> my LAN gets congested
[06:11] <Saagar> dont know why
[06:11] <Saagar> any guess on this?
[06:11] <oobe> BW
[06:11] <oobe> try a lower bitrate
[06:11] <oobe> and res
[06:11] <Saagar> yes Oobe. I tried
[06:12] <Saagar> That works
[06:12] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm trying to play a game (nexuiz) but every so often X takes up 100% CPU usage for several seconds with no cause.  It's even caused blank screens... Can anyone help me out?
[06:12] <Saagar> But My LAN bandwidth 100 Mbps
[06:12] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: how much ram do you have?
[06:12] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: 2 gigs, and I'm nowhere near that amount
[06:12] <Saagar> i enabled only 6 Mbps in the device
[06:13] <Saagar> would that clog my network?
[06:13] <oobe> Saagar,  but you want use higher res ?
[06:13] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: wow
[06:13] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: :)
[06:13] <Saagar> yes
[06:13] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: and your VGA card?
[06:13] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: eVGA eGeForce 6800 GT
[06:13] <Saagar> I suspect it is streaming outside my LAN.
[06:14] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: maybe you should check your card, cause some cards doesn't support your game setting
[06:14] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: it handles the game really well (100+ FPS) except when X randomly spikes
[06:14] <Saagar> oobe: What do you think?
[06:14] <oobe> Saagar,  yeah it could cause 100 Mbps is still only theoretical speed plus are you streaming to more than one person at once
[06:14] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: so I don't think it's related to the game settings or anything exceeding the capabilities of my box
[06:15] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: does it usually happen?
[06:16] <Saagar> Oobe: How can I limit streaming to a particular group?
[06:16] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: you mean the X spikes?  I'm watching it now, and it doesn't seem to happen without nexuiz running, but I don't see it being an issue with nexuiz
[06:16] <Saagar> Say the ip address range 192.168.11.80 - 192.168.11.89
[06:16] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: it does spike to ~4-7% cpu every now and then, but nowhere near the magnitude that I see while playing
[06:16] <oobe> Saagar, not sure
[06:17] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: i c
[06:17] <Saagar> okay oobe. Thank you anyway
[06:17] <oobe> Saagar,  ur probably better limiting access to the ip cam
[06:17] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: yeah... I'm a little confused as to what might cause sudden, short spikes like that too though.  I can't think of anything that would do that... :S
[06:18] <oobe> have u checked whats going on with netstat ?
[06:18] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: or maybe your box is too fast :)
[06:18] <rohan> i want a module to be loaded on startup - what do i do ?
[06:19] <Saagar> oobe: nope. Lemme try that out
[06:19] <onishidato> rohan: which one?
[06:19] <rohan> onishidato: acer_acpi
[06:19] <Ch1ppy> onishidato: hehe.  I doubt it though, since I can see the X process spiking in CPU usage when the lag happens, not just nexuiz compensating or something (I actually had that issue with CS 1.6 on windows before though, dual core problems :) )
[06:19] <Dr_willis> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[06:19] <rohan> Dr_willis: thank you.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> rohan,  add it to the /etc/modules file
[06:19] <Saagar> I just wanted to verify if multicasting can also clogg the network. Coz it is a technology to reduce the netwrok traffic. right?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <Saagar> oobe: Im not good at networks, plz correct me if im wrong
[06:20] <phil_> hey
[06:20] <phil_> wazzup\
[06:20] <twylight> what
[06:21] <phil_> wassup
[06:21] <phil_> whatsup
[06:21] <twylight> that's so 90's
[06:21] <phil_> i know
[06:21] <onishidato> Ch1ppy: got it he he
[06:21] <phil_> i was born in the 88
[06:21] <phil_> the 90`s kicked ass
[06:22] <Dr_willis> What You Talking about phil_ !
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <phil_> the freakin 90s lol
[06:22] <oobe> Saagar, i really dont know much about multicasting but im assuming if you watching a broadcast over your lan it should consume a fair amount of bandwidth
[06:22] <Dr_willis> its all a blure to me...
[06:22] <Daisuke-Ido> lord i feel old now
[06:22] <phil_> dr.willis?
[06:23] <Daisuke-Ido> though i know i'm probably about median around here
[06:23] <Saagar> oobe:thank you
[06:23] <phil_> i love this game awesome
[06:23] <Daisuke-Ido> 28 in just under 3 weeks :\
[06:24] <phil_> tremulous everyone should get it
[06:24] <oobe> Saagar, are you trying to do somthing like a security ip cam system then using lower res should be an easy fix other wise i saw a fairly indepth tutorial on streaming tv over a campus using LAN i cant find it but google should help
[06:25] <phil_hardcore> de de de
[06:25] <Dr_willis> phil_ that game makes me dizy and i puke.. :)
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> sorry
[06:26] <Dr_willis> wall crawling/fisheyed/jumping aliens =  way dizzy :)
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> lol
[06:26] <Saagar> oobe: Okay. Thanks for your patience and help
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> i love that games
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Of course the fact that i SUCK at the game dont help much
[06:26] <oobe> Saagar, as for limiting streaming to a particular group you could use ip tables to set a rule on what ip ranges can access the ip cam
[06:26] <oobe> Saagar, dont ask me how though
[06:26] <phil_hardcore> nexuiz?
[06:26] <Saagar> oobe: :) Sure i wont
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Ill stick with Team Fortress 2 for now. :)
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> lol
[06:27] <Dr_willis> at least i spend more time alive, then dead in TF2
[06:27] <oobe> Saagar, only cause i dont know
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> do you like devil driver?
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> the band?
[06:27] <Mani213> hey im trying to install linux cause my computer retarted mid way
[06:27]  * Dr_willis jams to Kenny G.
[06:27] <Mani213> and im doing it manual install now it doesnt seem to be working
[06:27] <phil_hardcore> oh noo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:27] <monzie> HI all
[06:27] <monzie> I am trying to setup a dedicated partition for builds
[06:27] <monzie> Should i user ResierFS instead of ext3?
[06:28] <oobe> Mani213, my computer was retarted once
[06:28] <phil_hardcore> no use ext3
[06:28] <Dr_willis> I see no reason to use reiserfs over ext3.
[06:28] <Mani213> ye like it was configuring after installing linux
[06:28] <monzie> Dr_willis: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#doc_chap4
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Unless you got some very speficic idea/needs as to why you need reiser.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> monzie,  just because gentoo suggests it . doesnt make it a good idea. :)
[06:28] <monzie> The gentoo handbook says reiser is faster than ext3
[06:28] <phil_hardcore> anyone using enlightenment?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> monzie,  ive heard its faster at SOME operations.
[06:28] <monzie> Dr_willis: But i could not get ubuntu's position on filesystems, so aksed
[06:29] <monzie> Dr_willis: for builds?
[06:29] <monzie> Dr_willis: essentiallly i want to build KDE4 on the partition
[06:29] <Dr_willis> phil_hardcore,  been using the gos  and Geubuntu desktops a little. :)
[06:29] <Mani213> how do i install it manualy when the drives are there but it doesnt let me
[06:29] <Mani213> do i check the home drive or the swap driveÉ
[06:29] <phil_hardcore> psh
[06:30] <oobe> Mani213, did u try using the alternate install
[06:30] <Dr_willis> monzie,  i aint touching KDE4 for some time. :)  heh heh .  I dont think you would gain much by using reiserfs on the build filesystem. but try it both ways and see I guess.
[06:30] <Mani213> what do you mean alternate installÉ
[06:30] <monzie> Dr_willis: ok. i like building kde4.
[06:30] <phil_hardcore> i would just wait on kde 4 until the stable comes out
[06:31] <monzie> Dr_willis: Thought my laptop would maybe able to build it faster if i used reiserfs
[06:31] <Dr_willis> laptop hd's are often so slow.. its.. well.. sad. :(
[06:31] <oobe> Mani213, there is a alternate install disk that doesnt use a DE it is all command like a Debian installer and it is much more versatile
[06:31] <Dr_willis> My poor laptop has a  4800 rpm hd. :(
[06:31] <Dr_willis> distcc an a lan of helper machines may help more. :)
[06:31] <Mani213> okay well is there any way of resuming the installationÉ
[06:32] <oobe> u are better off starting again
[06:32] <oobe> was it a fresh install
[06:32] <Mani213> so if the drive is already created from preivous installtion would i just format the ext3 driveÉ
[06:32] <Mani213> or the swap drive toÉ
[06:35] <Jay-Oh-En> is there a popup blocker for kubuntu
[06:36] <maduser> firefox
[06:36] <Dr_willis> There are such extensions for firefox.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> adblock, noscript, and others.
[06:37] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: oh ok but do they work good
[06:37] <inteliwasp> how can i move data from one computer to another and still make sure it is verified?
[06:37] <Jay-Oh-En> Dr_willis: becuase i get alot of pop up
[06:37] <Jay-Oh-En> s
[06:37] <Dr_willis> they work same for me under windows as they do linux.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> I dont recall getting any popups
[06:38] <Dr_willis> In fact i find it bizzar when i use other pwoples machines that dont have them. at the shere FLood of spammy ads they get. :)
[06:38] <Mani213> is there a software to combain two hard drives back to one disk
[06:39] <Mani213> cause of partitioningÉ
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Who ever came up with that Intellitext Double Underline popup ad/link thing. keeds to be .. well.. removed. :)
[06:40]  * twylight hiccusspssss  mainaiccally
[06:41] <oobe> Mani213, you dont need to format it but it shouldnt take that long and wouldnt hurt
[06:41] <twylight> 10 bed
[06:41] <twylight> 20 goto 10
[06:41] <twylight> 30 end
[06:42] <Dr_willis> 15 print  ZZZzzz...
[06:42] <Mani213> oobe: you know how i mac computers have a icon dock thats 3d can you get that for kubuntu as wellÉ
[06:42] <oobe> Mani213, you can use cfdisk to delete the unwanted partitions and make a new one with the combined space
[06:42] <Dr_willis> theres various  dock/panel replacements for kde.. but a lot of them are rather.. lacking :)
[06:43] <Mani213> so whats the swap drive for storing dataÉ
[06:43] <oobe> Mani213, i really cant answer you last question
[06:43] <ardchoille> !info kooldock | Mani213
[06:43] <ubotu> mani213: kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[06:43] <dsmith_> omb someone programed in basic
[06:43] <dsmith_> lol
[06:43] <dsmith_> OMG
[06:43] <dsmith_> 10 20, 30
[06:45] <Dr_willis> swap partition is  where the linux swaps out  to have extra memory.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> better then a swap file. :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Of course if you got a lot of ram. you really dont need one i hear.. but i always put at least 512mb swap partion on all my hd's
[06:46] <Mani213> oh okay okay
[06:46] <Mani213> ye cause i was wondering whats the point of 2 hard drives
[06:46] <Dr_willis> 2 PARTITIONS is NOT the same as 2 hard drives...
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Dont get the 2 terms confused. :)(
[06:47] <Mani213> would the swap file be readable if you operate windows É
[06:47] <oobe> Mani213, you sound like you need to be doing some basic reading up on linux there are many website  resources available to choose from
[06:48] <oobe> Mani213, www.google.com/linux
[06:48] <onishidato> hey guys
[06:48] <adamonline45> Is there anyone familiar with using KDevelop as a C++ IDE?
[06:48] <Mani213> hey im reinstalling and it stoped at scanning mirror
[06:49] <Mani213> at the configuring apt
[06:49] <Dr_willis> windows will not use the linux swap partition, or a linux swap file. :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Linux can have swap FILES, and/or swap partitions also. :) and yes you can have one of each. or several of each.
[06:49] <onishidato> i use both window and Kubuntu on my computer. i use 2 HD, 1 for WinXp, and one for Kubuntu, now, i'm using Kubuntu, but i want to check the other hardisk from kubuntu, how can i do now.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Normal Linux HD layout.  1 drive.. Parittion 1 (as big as ya can get ) mounted to /. then a swap partition.  i make mine 512mb+
[06:50] <Dr_willis> onishidato,  check? you want to scan the ntfs filesystem for errors?
[06:50] <onishidato> no
[06:50] <Dr_willis> define 'check' then. :)
[06:50] <onishidato> i want to get the data from windowxp
[06:51] <Dr_willis> You mean Mount the windows filesystem :)
[06:51] <oobe> onishidato, i think he just wants to look at his windows files
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !ntfs3g
[06:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:51] <onishidato> yeah
[06:51] <onishidato> thanks
[06:51] <oobe> onishidato, ls /media/
[06:51] <maduser> found a sick trick to accesning all you partitions at once
[06:51] <Dr_willis> They may allready be mounted in /media/ :)
[06:52] <oobe> Dr_willis,  yeah thats what i was thinking sense ntfs-3g is oobe in gutsy
[06:52] <oobe> maduser, mount all :P
[06:53] <Mani213> yo what do you do when you wana install programs on linux you drag and drop the folder you downloadedÉ
[06:53] <Mani213> into storage É
[06:54] <ardchoille> Mani213: Just curious, but why do you end some sentences with an upper-case e?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Mani213,  you dont normally install programs in such a way
[06:54] <Dr_willis> The package manager tools allow you to install/remove/update programs in a rather easy way.
[06:54] <Mani213> sorry the É suppose to be questionmark i guess its because im still installing linux right now
[06:55] <ardchoille> Mani213: Ah, ok, no problem.
[06:55] <Mani213> package manager tool that comes with kubuntu 7.10 rightÉ
[06:55] <Dr_willis> of course it comes with it. :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !apt
[06:56] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> if i want to isntall   xchat i use the command 'sudo apt-get install xchat' and it finds/downloads/installs it. :) No web surfing needed.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> If i want the whole of Ubuntu-desktop i install 'ubuntu-desktop' :) that grabs seversl dozen+ packages that are needed.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> well night all. good luck
[06:58] <julian_> Hello world!!
[06:59] <onishidato> hello julian:P
[07:00] <gh> anyone familer with adding lame encoding support to the default kubuntu 7.10 using k3b?
[07:00] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why I'm getting a makefile error in KDevelop when I try to compile even a simple 'hello world' program?
[07:00] <maduser> i would sugest g++
[07:01] <adamonline45> maduser: Me?
[07:01] <pacman> can anyone give me some help with my grub?
[07:02] <julian_> someone knows how to recongnize a cellphone conected by usb as a gsm modem in /dev folder?
[07:02] <gh> or more simply how to install lame without compiling it myself?
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install lame lame-extras liblame0
[07:03] <gh> already tried that
[07:04] <gh> errors out
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> whats it say?
[07:05] <gh> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[07:06] <jussi01> gh: tried updating?
[07:06] <julian_> maybe you don't have uncommented all the repositories at source.list
[07:06] <jussi01> ie. sudo apt-get update
[07:06] <sfears> hello
[07:06] <gh> I'm unfamiler with kubuntu, but i will try that
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> !find lame
[07:07] <ubotu> Found: flamerobin, flamethrower, glame, libtwolame-dev, libtwolame0 (and 9 others)
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> !info lame
[07:07] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.97-0.0 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 728 kB
[07:07] <gh> also, using the program install i see the only source is the cdrom
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> make sure multiverse is in your sources.list too
[07:08] <jussi01> yeah, lame is in multiverse so you will need that
[07:08] <gh> I have no idea what sources.list or multiverse is but i will google
[07:09] <onishidato> hey
[07:09] <julian_> please help me!!
[07:09] <onishidato> how can i change to root now?
[07:09] <Daisuke-Ido> !root | onishidato
[07:09] <ubotu> onishidato: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:09] <onishidato> they say i can't unmount my disk, only root can unmount
[07:10] <julian_> does anyone know how to recognize a cellphone conected by usb to my laptop as a gsm modem in /dev folder?
[07:10] <gh> that was easy enough
[07:10] <gh> thank you all
[07:13] <sub[t]rnl> julian_: using wvdial?
[07:13] <onishidato> i can't unmount my CD disk now
[07:13] <onishidato> what can i do
[07:14] <sfears> julian_, http://thesandeep.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/using-a-gsm-cellphone-as-a-gprs-modem/
[07:14] <onishidato> they say only root can unmount it
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> onishidato: use sudo before the command
[07:14] <sub[t]rnl> !sudo
[07:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:14] <onishidato> but can i do it manually?
[07:14] <julian_> no, I'm using a zabbix-server
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> julian_: sfears gave a nice link, check it out
[07:15] <julian_> I need the phone for sending alarms
[07:15] <sfears> some people say cucumbers taste better pickled
[07:16] <julian_> I'll check it ou
[07:16] <julian_> out
[07:16] <onishidato> Unfortunately, the device system:/media/scd0 (/dev/scd0) named 'Kubuntu 7.10 i386' and currently mounted at /media/cdrom0 could not be unmounted.
[07:16] <onishidato> The following error was returned by umount command:
[07:16] <onishidato> umount: only root can unmount /dev/scd0 from /media/cdrom0
[07:17] <onishidato> i don't know what can i do next
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> onishidato: sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[07:18] <onishidato> phew
[07:18] <onishidato> thanks
[07:18] <onishidato> i'm the newcomer with Kubuntu
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> no worries, we're all here to help each other
[07:19] <julian_> the problem is that i don't have ttyACM0 device
[07:20] <julian_> so I don't know where is my phone
[07:20] <julian_> I just need the name under /dev
[07:20] <jussi01> julian_: sometimes it mounts it under ttyACM1
[07:20] <julian_> I don't have it too
[07:20] <julian_> xD
[07:22] <ibilic> hi, in my K menu, most of the entries start with "_: Entries in K-menu:"
[07:22] <ibilic> does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:22] <Jay-Oh-En> should my processor be running 100%
[07:23] <ubuntu> i need help i just installed linux and restarted my pc and it says i have a GRUB ERROR
[07:23] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: not unless you are doing something intensive
[07:23] <jussi01> ubuntu: which grub error?
[07:23] <julian_> jussi01 I don't have any ttyACMx device
[07:23] <ubuntu> GRUD ERROR 7
[07:23] <ubuntu> or something
[07:23] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: well im not :[
[07:23] <ubuntu> the first time i restarted it was working fine i could see windows and linux
[07:23] <ubuntu> now it just sats grub error
[07:23] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: have a look through your process list to see what is causing it
[07:24] <Jay-Oh-En> htop?
[07:24] <ibilic> also, my USB disk doens't work, it says: "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" in Dolphin
[07:24] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: that should work, yes
[07:25] <jussi01> ubuntu: have you changed anything since then?
[07:25] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: X was taking it up
[07:25] <ubuntu> well when i runed windows i tried opening the partitioning program by norton but i didnt change settings
[07:25] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210
[07:25] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: hmmm... wha are your system specs?
[07:25] <ubuntu> i just though i would restart and try kubuntu but it says grub error
[07:26] <ubuntu> and now i cant run windows as well
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> !grub |ubuntu
[07:26] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:26] <jussi01> ubuntu: try the process for restoring grub after a windows install
[07:27] <ibilic> sub[t]rnl: thanks, google is wonderful :)
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> amen
[07:28] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: AMD 64bit processor 3000+ and 1GB of RAM and 500GB HDD and ATI - Radeon - AGP - 9550
[07:28] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: which driver? the ati binary?
[07:29] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: Fglrx
[07:29] <ubuntu> shit
[07:29] <ubuntu> i dont get this grub stuff
[07:29] <ubuntu> so i need to burn a cd and boot it?
[07:30] <jussi01> !language
[07:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:30] <ubuntu> sorry
[07:30] <sub[t]rnl> usually, yes you need a boot media so you can then mount your partition, and fix menu.lst and grub by hand
[07:31] <ubuntu> cant you just re config them ny the linux cd i used to install ?
[07:31] <ubuntu> by*
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[07:31] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> those links should tell you
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> boot into the live cd, then mount your root partition
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> then repair grub
[07:31] <sub[t]rnl> then reboot with the cd out
[07:34] <Jay-Oh-En> !ohmy
[07:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:34] <ubuntu> how do you open a terminal
[07:34] <ubuntu> by boot disk?
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: soooo....
[07:35] <jussi01> Jay-Oh-En: sooo... I have no idea. sorry.:(
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: oj
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: simpson
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jussi01: lol
[07:36] <ibilic> how do I reset my Adept manager?
[07:36] <ibilic> it crashed
[07:37] <julian_> sudo dpkg.reconfigure -a
[07:37] <julian_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:38] <ibilic> thanks
[07:40] <julian_> ok
[07:41] <Sulo_Seppa> Hey guys
[07:42] <sub[t]rnl> Greetings
[07:43] <Sulo_Seppa> I just got a new laptop yesterday, it is a HP Pavilion dv9628nr, And I just burned a kubuntu 7.10 x86_64 iso, will kubuntu work properly or is it useless for me to try the install? (I don't want it to screw vista up, I use it for some things)
[07:45] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa, you can run it off the cdrom and see how it runs :D
[07:46] <Sulo_Seppa> Well I was also wondering if it works wireless or if you still have to set all that crap up?
[07:46] <praveenm> hi, is there any way to transfer files using ANY im client to gtalk on winxp
[07:47] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: Is that laptop 64bit?
[07:47] <Sulo_Seppa> yes
[07:47] <ardchoille> ok
[07:47] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa, it wont hurt to put the cd into the laptop and load it up. Anything you do wont affect your hard drive until you install it. Who knows, maybe wireless will work on boot :D
[07:48] <olbj> quit
[07:48] <Sulo_Seppa> Oh I wish. but I've grown accustom to having to grab one of my dusty cat5's and downloading some windows driver and doing that fun process
[07:48] <AshyIsMe> hello
[07:48] <sub[t]rnl> I run vista + 64bit kubuntu on another computer just fine.  I would recommend using the vista partition resizing utility though, as I've came across errors when using anything else, like partition magic and such
[07:48] <AshyIsMe> does the iso from this link http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php  allow you to install kubuntu?
[07:48] <AshyIsMe> or is it just a bootable livecd without the hdd install script?
[07:49] <sub[t]rnl> Sulo_Seppa: soon you will see the light though, and find that the vista partition is just taking up space :p
[07:50] <Sulo_Seppa> Well, I normally just use linux only, but there are some nice things about this. I may get rid of it if I get full functionality in linux (which I doubt)
[07:50] <Sulo_Seppa> So use vista resize?
[07:50] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[07:50] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa have you run kubuntu live off the cd on the laptop before?
[07:50] <ubuntu> i tried fixing grub but doesnt seem to be working
[07:50] <sub[t]rnl> vista doesn't like anything else touching the drives, go figure
[07:50] <Sulo_Seppa> nah, I just got done burning the iso
[07:51] <Sulo_Seppa> the dvd iso
[07:51] <yurimxpxman_> is there a command (other than ls) to display the size of a file?
[07:51] <Sulo_Seppa> dh
[07:51] <ubuntu> i had to boot from cd inorder to run linux
[07:51] <sub[t]rnl> du
[07:51] <sub[t]rnl> du -h
[07:51] <Sulo_Seppa> du? haha 1 day of vista..
[07:51] <ibilic> I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ... what the hell did I get myself into? :)
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: reconfiguring every package is what
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[07:52] <jussi01> ibilic: thats only going to fix stuff...
[07:53] <ibilic> I don't get this thing... I install Kubuntu on my computer, and I just try to update everything using Adept... and it crashes... how lame is that?
[07:53] <ibilic> and then I want my USB drive to work... and I have to look up on the forums how to deal with the bug
[07:53] <ubuntu> is there any way of fixing grub while on linux
[07:53] <lhadji> Sulo_Seppa, cool. Let us know if kubuntu found all your drivers when you ran it live from the cd on your laptop :)
[07:53] <ibilic> and then the K-meny thing... again... looking up on the internet how to fix it
[07:53] <Sulo_Seppa> Okay, well partition will be easy since I have 2 HDDs (one has nothing on it yet, both 120GB), but will kubuntu set up grub right for vista? I've done dual-boot with xp, I don't know if vista is too much different.
[07:53] <ibilic> nothing seems to work the easy way!
[07:53] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: get into the grub shell via -> sudo grub
[07:54] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[07:54] <ibilic> but I won't give up :)
[07:54] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: good man
[07:54] <ibilic> You may need to execute the asoundconf(1) set-default-card macro.
[07:54] <ibilic> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libc6 is broken or not fully installed
[07:55] <ibilic> what does this mean? what is libc6?
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> its very important
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> thats what
[07:55] <ibilic> i think this crashed Adept
[07:55] <Sulo_Seppa> okay well I am going to boot the live cd. hopefully I can connect...
[07:56] <ubuntu> sudo mount -o dev /mnt/hda1?
[07:56] <ubuntu> can i type that in when i type in alt f6?
[07:56] <ardchoille> ubuntu: You'll need a device, simply using "dev" won't do
[07:56] <ubuntu> so gimmi step by step what i should do
[07:57] <ibilic> ok so how do I fix the libc6 thing... I am reading what it is... and yes... it does seem pretty important....
[07:57] <ubuntu> easy and fast
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> type this
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> sudo grub
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> do you see --> grub>
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> a grub shell?
[07:57] <ibilic> who are you talking to?
[07:57] <ubuntu> so i press alt f2?
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu:
[07:58] <ibilic> ok :(
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> alt + f2, then type --> konsole
[07:58] <ubuntu> okay
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> ok, now
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> sudo grub
[07:58] <ubuntu> i see the shell kinsole
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> ibilic: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: are you in the grub shell?
[07:59] <ubuntu> tetete
[07:59] <ubuntu> yeyey
[07:59] <ubuntu> i see grub>
[07:59] <ibilic> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:00] <ibilic> i guess I'll do that
[08:00] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:00] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: tell me what it says
[08:01] <ubuntu> error 27: unrecognized command
[08:01] <yurimxpxman_> how can I tell ls to display ./foo/bar.txt instead of bar.txt ?
[08:01] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: find works in a grub shell?
[08:01] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille: hrm I thought so
[08:02] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: just type "find" in the shell
[08:02] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: whats it say
[08:02] <ubuntu> error 15: file not found
[08:02] <sub[t]rnl> ok, so type this exactly
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:03] <ibilic> what does sudo apt-get install -f do?
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> fix broken dependencies
[08:03] <ibilic> i am noting all these commands down for future reference :)
[08:03] <sub[t]rnl> man apt-get and a cup of coffee = good times
[08:04] <ubuntu> its giving me same error 15: file not found
[08:04] <sub[t]rnl> type here what you typed in the shell
[08:04] <ubuntu> Find /boot/grub/stagel
[08:04] <sub[t]rnl> show me what you typed
[08:05] <sub[t]rnl> ok, its stage1 not stagel ....as in stage(one)
[08:07] <ubuntu> still nothing
[08:07] <ubuntu> found
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> show me what you typed
[08:07] <ubuntu> find /boot/grub/stagel
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> thats not right
[08:08] <ardchoille> ubuntu: That last char is a 1 (one) not an "l"
[08:08] <ubuntu> oh
[08:08] <ubuntu> a 1?
[08:08] <ardchoille> yes
[08:08] <ubuntu> shit
[08:08] <jussi01> :)
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[08:08] <ubuntu> i mean sorry
[08:08] <jussi01> !language
[08:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:09] <ubuntu> okay it says (hd0,5)
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> there we go
[08:10] <ubuntu> and back to the grub> command
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> good
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> now type
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> root (hd0,5)
[08:10] <ubuntu> okay
[08:10] <ubuntu> now its back to grub>command again
[08:11] <sub[t]rnl> now type
[08:11] <sub[t]rnl> setup (hd0)
[08:11] <ubuntu> it says checking and both are yes
[08:11] <INFOEXCLUDED> was it started yet ?
[08:11] <ubuntu> and its sccedded and done
[08:12] <ubuntu> back to the grub command
[08:12] <sub[t]rnl> succeeded, good
[08:12] <ubuntu> so now its fixed?
[08:12] <sub[t]rnl> now type quit
[08:12] <sub[t]rnl> and reboot, yeah should be fixed
[08:12] <ubuntu> thanks a million
[08:12] <ardchoille> !grub
[08:12] <ubuntu> let me try this
[08:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:12] <ubuntu> ill be back if it doesnt work be ready
[08:12] <ubuntu> lol
[08:13] <ardchoille> sub[t]rnl: You seem to be really good with the grub shell. Perhaps when you have time, you could take a look at the !grub tutorial and enhance it if possible.
[08:13] <PJC121> sub[t]rnl: will those instructions make grub 'find' a vista OS on a seperate hard drive.  Ie I installed kubuntu a while back but grub didn't pick up the vista installation
[08:13] <sub[t]rnl> ardchoille: yes sir
[08:13] <INFOEXCLUDED> how do i start ubuntu from windows boot menu ?
[08:14] <johann787> Hi, does anyone know what the default root password is after install, unable to do a sudo command
[08:14] <INFOEXCLUDED> isnt there any automatic way ?
[08:14] <johann787> no
[08:14] <ardchoille> johann787: There is no root pass, sudo uses your user passwd
[08:15] <jussi01> !root | johann787
[08:15] <ubotu> johann787: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:15] <sub[t]rnl> PJC121: using that method will only repair grub on a harddrive that has its installation files
[08:15] <johann787> I tries to use sudo but my username which I entered in the beginning is not in the sudo list
[08:15] <INFOEXCLUDED> can i had an sudusless user ?
[08:15] <PJC121> ah, I see, thank you
[08:16] <INFOEXCLUDED> johann787: its better to be on de safe side
[08:16] <INFOEXCLUDED> sudu = root acess no mater what ubuntu devs claim
[08:17] <johann787> I see , so mabye i have to reinstall in advenced mode, is there a way to choose the root password there , or is there a way to unlock the root account ?
[08:17] <INFOEXCLUDED> unlocking the root acount is easy
[08:18] <ardchoille> johann787: You won't be using or setting up a root password in any ubuntu install, sudo is used, the root account is locked.
[08:18] <INFOEXCLUDED> ive done it before
[08:18] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: That info is not recommended and not supported here
[08:18] <ibilic> is there a "Klite Codec pack" equivalent in linux?
[08:18] <Proteus> How stable is kde4 rc2? I'm thinking about trying it out
[08:18] <johann787> ok , I realy need to use the root account rather than sudo , I dont like that ;)
[08:18] <sub[t]rnl> INFOEXCLUDED: the whole point of sudo is to make a root password or account not needed, greatly increasing your box's security
[08:19] <INFOEXCLUDED> how can that increase security ?
[08:19] <ibilic> also, something that will let me browse all those websites requireing special plugins like youtube
[08:19] <ardchoille> johann787: The recommended and supported method is to use sudo, it can do anything root can do.
[08:19] <INFOEXCLUDED> havin an root acount with out password
[08:19] <sub[t]rnl> INFOEXCLUDED: no root account, no root password
[08:19] <INFOEXCLUDED> sudo = root acount with out password
[08:19] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: How do you brute force a locked root account?
[08:19] <johann787> If I try to use the sudo command the OS says that I´m not in the sudoers list. Am I locked out of the OS ?
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> can linux run with out root acount ?
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> never eard about it
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> isnt root acount there ?
[08:20] <ardchoille> Ubuntu has a root account, it's simply locked and we use sudo for admin tasks
[08:20] <INFOEXCLUDED> sudo = root acount with out password
[08:21] <ardchoille> !sudo | INFOEXCLUDED Lots of good info here:
[08:21] <johann787> Mabye because my name has a special characters that the OS might not support ?
[08:21] <beroual> hi
[08:21] <beroual> xubunu ?
[08:21] <ubotu> INFOEXCLUDED Lots of good info here:: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:21] <beroual> bye
[08:22] <atwo1> ok so
[08:22] <atwo1> round 2
[08:22] <INFOEXCLUDED> i think sudo is a pain
[08:22] <johann787> already read it but thr sudo does not work, the user I used during installation is not in the sudoers list
[08:22] <INFOEXCLUDED> you need to type sudo every new command
[08:22] <atwo1> not always
[08:22] <atwo1> just do your commands from root
[08:22] <atwo1> sudo into terminal
[08:23] <johann787> I cant Im not in the sudoers list
[08:23] <atwo1> ardchoille: hi
[08:23] <ardchoille> hi atwo1
[08:23] <INFOEXCLUDED> cant see whats difrent betwen sudo and having an root acount with out password
[08:23] <atwo1> ardchoille: i'm reinstalling again lol
[08:23] <atwo1> clicking the autodetect for graphics card STOPPED it recognising the monitor at all
[08:24] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: There is a lot of information that explains that on the wiki page the bot linked you
[08:24] <ubuntu> i  have a 2nd problem now:(:(:(:(:
[08:24] <INFOEXCLUDED> i guess even you cant explain it
[08:24] <INFOEXCLUDED> nvm
[08:25] <INFOEXCLUDED> how can you ssh to ubuntu ?
[08:25] <johann787> Ok Ill try
[08:25] <atwo1> !ssh
[08:25] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:25] <INFOEXCLUDED> dosent ssh implies a root user ?
[08:25] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: no
[08:26] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: I have ssh access to several boxes where I am not root/admin
[08:26] <Proteus> Hi, I'm using xubuntu right now but I was thinking about trying out the new kde4 rc2 release. Could anyone give me some info about how stable it is and any problems I should expect?
[08:27] <Proteus> Should I even bother with rc2?
[08:27] <ubuntu> at the bootup screen i try running linux it says cannnot mount selected partition what does that mean?
[08:27] <atwo1> no
[08:27] <atwo1> not atm
[08:27] <pacman> can anyone give me some help with my grub?
[08:27] <atwo1> Proteus: go for 7.10
[08:27] <atwo1> unless you want to test
[08:27] <atwo1> !grub
[08:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <INFOEXCLUDED> does ubuntu use something like this ? unlogable system acount aka root and just have admins with sudo access
[08:27] <atwo1> pacman: ^
[08:28] <jussi01> Proteus: I would wait if I were you
[08:28] <ubuntu> atwol your bootup screen doesnt work?
[08:28] <Proteus> jussi01, any specific reason?
[08:28] <INFOEXCLUDED> does ubuntu have spins like fedora ?
[08:28] <jussi01> Proteus: its not yet fully useable, and has a lot of bugs.
[08:28] <Proteus> jussi01, ok, thanks for the advice.
[08:28] <jussi01> Proteus: I suggest grabbing the live cd and having a look
[08:28] <atwo1> ubuntu: i'm reinstalling kubuntu now
[08:29] <ubuntu> ye cause i got help with that grub boot up setup
[08:29] <ubuntu> it works but when i try running linux it doesn work
[08:29] <ubuntu> it says cannot mount seleted partition
[08:29] <INFOEXCLUDED> i need to make a live usb variant aka poor mans instsall or frugal install to use on usb drive
[08:29] <INFOEXCLUDED> is it easy  ?
[08:30] <Proteus> jussi01, I'd just read that the qt4 switch had drastically cut the memory footprint and I got all excited, hoping I could get something pretty running on this pII system
[08:30] <INFOEXCLUDED> should i used fedroa instead ?
[08:30] <jussi01> !install | INFOEXCLUDED
[08:30] <ubotu> INFOEXCLUDED: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:30] <INFOEXCLUDED> i hate man pages
[08:30] <jussi01> Proteus: yeah, but I dont think its that drastic. and if you need a stable system, definately not.
[08:31] <Proteus> jussi01, right. Thanks again.
[08:31] <jussi01> Proteus: :)
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> isnt it easyer to use fedora ?
[08:31] <ubuntu> aii can some one help me i cant load linux at boot up screen
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> with spins ?
[08:31] <ardchoille> INFOEXCLUDED: Please take that to another channel.
[08:31] <rx_> i cant get kde4 rc2 to install on hardy. please help.
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> why ?
[08:31] <atwo1> !ot
[08:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:31] <atwo1> oi brb
[08:31] <INFOEXCLUDED> you havent used fedora spins ?
[08:32] <atwo1> !fedora
[08:32] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[08:32] <INFOEXCLUDED> FREAKING BOOTS
[08:32] <atwo1> lawlz
[08:32] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: please keep it on topic.
[08:32] <eleve> hello
[08:32] <ubuntu> yo jussi01
[08:32]  * awto1[brb] is away: brb bottle o run
[08:32] <INFOEXCLUDED> im keeping it on my topic
[08:32] <vzduch> INFOEXCLUDED: this is #kubuntu, you want to go to #fedora, /me thinks
[08:32] <ardchoille> !away > awto1[brb]
[08:33] <ubuntu> when i try booting linux it says cannot mount seletec partition what should i do ?
[08:33] <vbgunz> I have a 2 part question. I just reformatted and repartitioned an external USB disk. 1, I have no permission to write to it. 2, it's a 10GB disk, I just reformatted it, reparitioned it, why is over 600MB stated as used?
[08:33] <INFOEXCLUDED> im just asking whats the best/easy way to make drivate "distro" that uses poor mans install and can be used from usb drive
[08:34] <Jay-Oh-En> INFOEXCLUDED: if you figure it out tell me i want that too
[08:34] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Did you format it to ext3?
[08:34] <vbgunz> yeah
[08:34] <vbgunz> chown it?
[08:34] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: ntfs on the usb drive?
[08:34] <sub[t]rnl> oh nm
[08:34] <INFOEXCLUDED> i cant know they wont tell me
[08:35] <ardchoille> vbgunz: ext3 reserves space for the journal
[08:35] <vbgunz> I formatted the external USB drive as ext 3
[08:35] <INFOEXCLUDED> alaways with theyr distro turfing
[08:35] <vbgunz> ardchoille: yeah, 5% correct? or am I wrong?
[08:35] <ardchoille> vbgunz: I'm not exactly sure how much space
[08:36] <INFOEXCLUDED> i thought linux to biger than distros
[08:36] <vzduch> must be something like 7%
[08:36] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[08:36] <ardchoille> vbgunz: I did notice that when I formatted my 80Gb drive, it reserved 3Gb of that space
[08:37] <INFOEXCLUDED> whats for ?
[08:37] <vbgunz> ardchoille: yeah, thats true. 600MB+ is a bit more than 5% 10GB, + 10GB isn't what it really is, probably more like 9.3GB
[08:37] <INFOEXCLUDED> swap sapce ?
[08:38] <INFOEXCLUDED> jussi01: i dont what just to install ubuntu to usb drive i need to make work from ram
[08:39] <INFOEXCLUDED> and to use HW detection like knoppis or something and install drivers automaticaly if needed
[08:40] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: why do you need that? what exactly are you trying to acheive?
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> and has to be smaller then 500 megas
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> make a portable dektop
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> desktop
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> to use on a 1 gigabite usb pen
[08:40] <INFOEXCLUDED> on any computer
[08:41] <jussi01> INFOEXCLUDED: so you want to install it to a usb pen like the link is about!
[08:41] <vbgunz> INFOEXCLUDED: was thinking exactly that... would really like to make my main harddisk, my external disk, capable of booting up anywhere, and use my internal disk as a backup... I just don't have the patience to do it now :(
[08:41] <INFOEXCLUDED> it should install proprietrie driver too for gaming but do it automaticaly
[08:41] <vbgunz> whats the program to check a disk health?
[08:41] <vbgunz> I installed it and forgot the name :P
[08:43] <pacman> I'm looking for a program that you can run XP with...I can't remember the name of it
[08:43] <vbgunz> smartctl I think
[08:43] <sub[t]rnl> fsck?
[08:43] <jussi01> pacman: vmware
[08:43] <vbgunz> pacman: a virtual machine? virtualbox?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:45] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> hey sebastian^
[08:47] <INFOEXCLUDED> cant ghrub boot an .iso file ?
[08:47] <INFOEXCLUDED> cant grub boot an .iso file ?
[08:47] <INFOEXCLUDED> that would be a nice feature to had to grub
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> INFOEXCLUDED, not sure, let me google
[08:48] <pacman> I'm getting an error message while downloading vmware
[08:48] <ardchoille> pacman: What is the error?
[08:49] <pacman> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[08:49] <INFOEXCLUDED> pacman: i dont have anything to do with that
[08:50]  * awto1[brb] is back from brb bottle o run [duration: 17mins 22secs]
[08:50] <awto1[brb]> i got that pm
[08:50] <awto1[brb]> but once the away goes on it had to come off, won't do it again
[08:50] <vzduch> INFOEXCLUDED: you're not the only one in here looking for help..
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> INFOEXCLUDED, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-170530.html
[08:50] <spitfire> hi all, i was wondering, im trying to install flashplayer to watch youtube
[08:50] <spitfire> but apt-get dosnt have it
[08:51] <spitfire> is there another name for it?
[08:51] <vzduch> !flash | spitfire
[08:51] <ubotu> spitfire: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> !flash9 | spitfire
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, go to www.adobe.com and download it and follow the instructions
[08:52] <vzduch> ActionParsnip: for Feisty there was a pkg.. isn't that available any more for Gutsy?
[08:52] <ardchoille> spitfire: It's best to stick with the package manager to handle software when possible so you will get updates and bug fixes automatically
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> vzduch, ive always just copied the .so file to my plugins dir. Never saw the point of a package
[08:53] <spitfire> aha ok thanks for the info
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> oi oi SatManUK
[08:54] <SatManUK> hello
[08:54] <SatManUK> ActionParsnip: do you know how to remove US english from OpenOffice
[08:54] <SatManUK> I changed all the dictionaries to UK English default
[08:55] <SatManUK> but it still uses to autocheck in usa english
[08:55] <atwo1> !nvidia
[08:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <SatManUK> !ping
[08:56] <ubotu> pong
[08:56] <atwo1> i got to try to fix this bs problem again
[08:56] <SatManUK> ActionParsnip: ping me please..
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> SatManUK, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/garryknight/linux/oodict.html
[08:56] <SatManUK> channel synchronised in 55 seconds says im lagging bad
[08:56] <atwo1> !ping satmanuk
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping satmanuk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> SatManUK, Looks pretty decent
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> SatManUK, 237ms
[08:57] <spitfire> Download done.
[08:57] <spitfire> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[08:57] <spitfire> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[08:58] <SatManUK> 237 ms hmm.. 2.3 seconds guess thats ok..
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, did you extract the files from the tar.gz?
[08:58] <spitfire> :S to tell you the truth i cant find where they got downloaded
[08:59] <atwo1> what do i add the nameserver to again
[08:59] <atwo1> and how do i do that
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, then redownload to somewhere you know it is
[08:59] <sub[t]rnl> atwo1: /etc/resolv.conf
[08:59] <sub[t]rnl> open it with kate, or another editor
[09:00] <tuxwulf_> So... How to prevent my network settigns from changing automatically?
[09:00] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: you'll need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[09:00] <tuxwulf_> sub[t]rnl: I can not do so with ifconfig on the fly any more?
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> not sure
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, then sudo cp the .so file to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:01] <sub[t]rnl> not if you want it static
[09:01] <atwo1> ok
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spitfire, then restart your browser
[09:01] <atwo1> sub[t]rnl: thanks my net works now
[09:03] <atwo1> ok
[09:03] <tuxwulf_> Gee...... that bums me out... all that automatic stuff is for MS users...
[09:03] <atwo1> im getting this issue where the screen is pushed accross from the left side by about 200px (this is in the native res)
[09:04] <atwo1> im enablding the nvidia thing in restricted drivers
[09:04] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: ifconfig'ing an ip up will only be temporary anyway, when you restart networking it gets read from /etc/network/interfaces
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, you could use your monitor controls :D
[09:04] <atwo1> last time i did this on restart it didnt detect the screen at all once it was loaded up
[09:04] <atwo1> ActionParsnip: that doesn't work
[09:04] <atwo1> anywhere near where its meant to
[09:04] <tuxwulf_> sub[t]rnl:  Yes, but I want to be able to change it onnnnnnnne fly
[09:04] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: then ifconfig your little heart out bro :D
[09:05] <tuxwulf_> sub[t]rnl: ... Yes... I think you do not understand what my issue is...
[09:05] <atwo1> ok it's enabled, now if i restatr and it doesn't detect it, i have to reinstall kubuntu
[09:05] <atwo1> again
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:06] <atwo1> wait its restarting
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, so you have the latest
[09:06] <atwo1> GREAT
[09:06] <atwo1> it says 'no signal' and i can't see anything on the desktop
[09:06] <sub[t]rnl> tuxwulf_: heh, you can set a static ip with ifconfig, but when you restart the network, it will not hold.  Adding the ip's to your interface file will keep.  No, you can't do it on the fly
[09:06] <tuxwulf_> My eth0 gets an IP by DHCP. But, I want to hang my computer directly in the internet with one of my fixed addresses, just for a moment. So I use ifconfig to reconfigure the eth0. But the moment I plug in the public cable, my eth0 is downed, and the settings deleted.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, ok then boot to your live cd, mount your drive and copy back your original xorg.conf
[09:06] <atwo1> ok here's one for u
[09:07] <tuxwulf_> In 7.04 this was no problem, but in 7.10 ... no way.
[09:07] <llutz> tuxwulf_: you need to stop networkmanager handling your device
[09:07] <atwo1> it loads to a blank black screen where i can enter text (it starts down half way on the scvreen) and nothnig else can be done
[09:07] <atwo1> its plain text, pressing enter just enters to the next line
[09:07] <atwo1> wtf
[09:07] <tuxwulf_> liutz! Ah! Okay.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, can you type startx
[09:07] <atwo1> yes
[09:07] <atwo1> and it does nothing
[09:07] <atwo1> its just a black screen
[09:07] <atwo1> that will accept text
[09:08] <atwo1> and do nothnig with it
[09:08] <spitfire> ActionParsnip: can you give me the proper sudo cp ... i dont know the format in which i can write it
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, boot to yourlive cd and get your old xorg.conf file back
[09:08] <atwo1> ok brb
[09:08] <atwo1> will need help doing what u suggested
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, id try a cold reboot too
[09:08] <atwo1> i reinstalled the whole thing last time
[09:08] <atwo1> yeah
[09:08] <atwo1> it just
[09:08] <tuxwulf_> liutz > Nope, same thing happens....
[09:09] <atwo1> loads up the screen with 'kubuntu' and the blue bar fillnig up
[09:09] <atwo1> then it gets further on and the monitor msg comes up 'no signal'
[09:09] <atwo1> and it loads that black screen
[09:10] <atwo1> rebooting done nothing
[09:10] <atwo1> loading with disc now
[09:10] <atwo1> oh snap
[09:10] <atwo1> when it says 'start or install kubuntu'
[09:10] <atwo1> oh wait nm
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> atwo1, did you backup your original xorg.conf?
[09:12] <atwo1> no
[09:12] <atwo1> it was a fresh install
[09:13] <vbgunz> anyone know how to effectively test a hard drives health? I cannot do anything with smartctl :(
[09:13] <martin_> hello
[09:13] <atwo1> martin_: hello
[09:13] <martin_> its my first time
[09:13] <atwo1> ActionParsnip: how do i copy the x from disc to hdd with k on it
[09:14] <atwo1> martin_: lolz having fun?
[09:15] <atwo1> ActionParsnip: how do i copy the x.org from disc to hdd with k on it
[09:16] <martin_> dont know yet
[09:16] <martin_> looks nice
[09:17] <sigma_> whats the easiest way to setup the tv out on a nvidia 6600gt? i have the glx drivers installed and they are working
[09:17] <sigma_> but it reports a modeline error whenever i try switching to the tv
[09:19] <atwo1> someone tell me if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?
[09:19] <spitfire> frustration...
[09:20] <tuxwulf_> How do I make K3b use a blank DVD to burn a CD image?
[09:20] <spitfire> when i do the sudo cp the file i want to copy is in 'home/install...../libflashplayer.so
[09:21] <spitfire> it says no directory found
[09:22] <vzduch> spitfire: if that makes it easier for you, change to the dir where the file is
[09:25] <atwo1> if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?
[09:25] <etfb> I hope this isn't so stupid that I'm appointed Idiot of the Week, but...  I uninstalled knetworkmanager.  Now I can't reinstall because (surprise, surprise) I don't have a network connection.  Can anyone suggest a solution that doesn't involve reinstalling?
[09:27] <spitfire> vzduch: even with that its not working
[09:28] <spitfire> check out the format please
[09:28] <spitfire> sudo cp ./home/spitfire/desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:28] <etfb> atwol: don't quite understand.  Is x.org a file on your CD, or do you mean the entire xorg (ie XWindows) system?
[09:28] <vzduch> the dot before '/home' is wrong
[09:29] <spitfire> vzduch: /home/spitfire/desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[09:29] <johann787> what is the baest way to upgrade ubuntu or install new packges, is it with the awget command ?
[09:29] <ardchoille> spitfire: Desktop, not desktop
[09:30] <etfb> johann787: definitely with apt-get, or its GUI equivalent aptitude.
[09:30] <johann787> ok thanks
[09:30] <ardchoille> spitfire: And, fwiw, mine is at:  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[09:30] <ardchoille> spitfire: But I installed from the repos
[09:30] <etfb> johann787: also check out the Add and Remove Programs option in your menu
[09:31] <spitfire> PRAISE THE LORD ... finally all because of the capital D
[09:31] <spitfire> thank guys
[09:31] <etfb> spitfire: unix is case sensitive, because it makes it easier to cause people pain.  (Come on, you know that's the only explanation that fits the facts.)
[09:31] <johann787> how about CPAN is it configured or do I have to configure something ?
[09:31] <atwo1> if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?
[09:31] <atwo1> i mean that
[09:31] <atwo1> whatever that main file is
[09:32] <atwo1> i changed some settnig and i want to just replace whatever the main file is on the hdd as whats on the cd
[09:32] <atwo1> its a fresh install
[09:32] <atwo1> and the graphics driver getting enabled in 'restricted drivers' kills it
[09:32] <atwo1> so it doesnt even recognise the screen is there
[09:33] <etfb> atwo1: gotcha!  I suggest booting to a text login (Alt+F1 will let you do that if you're not there already) and then use the dpkg-reconfigure command.  Let me check the syntax...
[09:33] <atwo1> it was a fresh install, all i did was what the thing suggests
[09:33] <atwo1> !nvidia
[09:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <atwo1> and enable the nvidia thing in restricted drivers
[09:34] <atwo1> but it kills eveyrthing
[09:34] <etfb> atwo1: I don't trust those restricted drivers.  I think they're the reason I don't have wifi any more...
[09:34] <atwo1> well whatever it was it totally fkd my system
[09:35] <etfb> johann787: not sure about CPAN.  IF you have Perl installed, presumably it includes packages for handling CPAN.  Check the FAQs on their website.
[09:35] <atwo1> but i can't get the native res to work without a big 200px blank spot on the left side
[09:35] <atwo1> squishing the screen over
[09:35] <atwo1> look im ready to just reinstall the whole OS atm
[09:35] <atwo1> for the 2nd time thnis afternoon
[09:35] <etfb> google for "xorg.conf" and the numbers of your resolution, eg 1280 800 or whatever
[09:35] <etfb> That's how I fixed that problem.
[09:36] <etfb> Don't recall the details now, but... there is no god but Google!
[09:36] <atwo1> anyway
[09:36] <atwo1> how do i reinstall x.org
[09:36] <atwo1> or whatever
[09:36] <atwo1> someone said mount the drive
[09:36] <atwo1> and copy it from the disc to it
[09:36] <atwo1> or something
[09:36] <atwo1> im totally noob i just got gutsy this week
[09:36] <atwo1> and have never used linux before
[09:36] <etfb> atwo1: the CD should automount in Ubuntu, so ignore that advice.  I'm checking the reconfig syntax now...
[09:38] <etfb> atwo1: try doing this from a konsole: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:38] <atwo1> but its loaded on the disc at the moment
[09:38] <etfb> Choose the defaults, except for the driver that stuffed up (pick vesa instead for that, perhaps)
[09:39] <atwo1> but its loaded on the disc at the moment i can't get onto the hdd its installed on
[09:39] <etfb> atwo1: ??? I'm exhausted after a long week and really not following you.  Can you rephrase that for my tired brain?
[09:39] <Sulo_Seppa> Well, that's nice. First off, the live dvd didn't work for graphics unless I put noapic and other stuff, and second, it didn't have the wireless drivers.. I thought that kinda stuff was added in 7.10. How am I expected to connect to the internet if I need to download the drivers from the internet?
[09:40] <atwo1> ok the story is.......
[09:40] <etfb> Sulo_Seppa: I sympathise; I'm having hell with wifi drivers too.  Mind you, it's mostly self-inflicted in my case...
[09:40] <atwo1> i installed kubuntu, the res is completely rooted in native. it's meant to be 1440x900 but using that forces the left edge of the screen inwards horizontally by about 200px. i enter the restricted drivers and turn on the nvidia detection and on restart it screws everything
[09:40] <atwo1> im abuot to reinstall
[09:42] <Sulo_Seppa> etfb: how so?
[09:42] <etfb> atwo1: what happens if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1?  (press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the X window if necessary)
[09:42] <atwo1> from what
[09:42] <atwo1> when i restart the screen comes to a blank black screen
[09:42] <atwo1> but i can type in text
[09:42] <atwo1> that does nothing
[09:42] <Sulo_Seppa> And I can get wifi working pretty easily, so why the _hell_ is it not included in ubuntu?
[09:43] <etfb> Sulo_Seppa: I uninstalled knetworkmanager and can't get it back.  Wifi is included, but your installation may have stuffed up.
[09:43] <etfb> atwo1: just try it from there.  Either it does something or it doesn't.
[09:43] <atwo1> oi
[09:43] <atwo1> that screen u told me to go to
[09:43] <atwo1> the ctrl alt f1
[09:43] <atwo1> thats what the screen looks like when i reboot after the above changes
[09:44] <atwo1> can i use a shortcut there to make somethnig happen
[09:44] <etfb> Press enter and see if you get a login prompt
[09:44] <Sulo_Seppa> What? No, I need the drivers, I mean why the hell doesn't ubuntu come with wireless drivers?
[09:44] <atwo1> wait
[09:44] <atwo1> im restarting
[09:45] <etfb> Sulo_Seppa: what hardware are you on (brand, model, wireless card, etc)
[09:45] <atwo1> i restatr and it gets to this blank screen
[09:45] <atwo1> with no prompt
[09:45] <etfb> atwo1: try Ctrl+Alt+F2 and tell me what you see
[09:45] <Sulo_Seppa> HP Pavilion dv9628nr Broadcom
[09:45] <atwo1> OH MY FKING GOD
[09:45] <atwo1> A LOGIN
[09:45] <etfb> Sulo_Seppa: googling now... please wait...
[09:46] <atwo1> IM LOGGED IN OMFG
[09:46] <atwo1> so thats what that useless screen is for
[09:46] <Sulo_Seppa> etfb: I know how to set it up
[09:46] <atwo1> jwasuas
[09:46] <atwo1> etfb: u just saved me so much
[09:46] <etfb> atwo1: Aha!  Thank Google!  Now do the dpkg thingy.
[09:46] <atwo1> now how do i make crapbuntu work
[09:46] <atwo1> load the kde
[09:46] <atwo1> and main everything
[09:47] <Sulo_Seppa> etfb: It's just insane, because most wireless cards in laptops that I've seen are brodcom and intel (which is supported, obviously).
[09:47] <atwo1> what do i type to load the KDE
[09:47] <Sulo_Seppa> startx
[09:48] <atwo1> i did that
[09:48] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: what is your problem though?
[09:48] <atwo1> it said
[09:48] <atwo1> XIO
[09:48] <atwo1> fatal IO error 104
[09:48] <atwo1> connection reset by peer on X server ":0.0"
[09:48] <Sulo_Seppa> Heh, you screwed up x?
[09:48] <etfb> atwo1: do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command and go through the resetting of the windows system.  It _should_ fix all your problems.
[09:48] <atwo1> all i did
[09:48] <atwo1> i installed kubuntu, the res is completely rooted in native. it's meant to be 1440x900 but using that forces the left edge of the screen inwards horizontally by about 200px. i enter the restricted drivers and turn on the nvidia detection and on restart it screws everything
[09:48] <atwo1> then
[09:48] <atwo1> i get this blank screen
[09:48] <atwo1> i ctrl alt f2
[09:48] <atwo1> and login
[09:48] <atwo1> type startx
[09:48] <atwo1> and get what i just said
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> oh
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> okay
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> well do you know how to use vim?
[09:49] <atwo1> i dont know anything i've had a linux system for 2 days
[09:49] <atwo1> and its given me shit the whole time
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> okay then use nano
[09:49] <atwo1> use what
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> let  me try and explain..
[09:49] <atwo1> im in some black screen
[09:49] <atwo1> how do i get to desktop
[09:49] <Sulo_Seppa> okay, in the terminal type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:50] <atwo1> now what
[09:50] <Sulo_Seppa> Go down do where you see something like Device "nVidia" and change it to nv
[09:50] <atwo1> it says
[09:50] <llutz> Sulo_Seppa: "Driver" "nvidia"  not Device
[09:50] <atwo1> Device 'nvidia coporation nv24 [ngeforece fx 5500]
[09:50] <atwo1> which is my card
[09:51] <etfb> (I'll leave you two to it, since you're probably on the way now.  I'm popping over to #ubuntu to see if anyone there can help me...)
[09:51] <Sulo_Seppa> okay
[09:51] <atwo1> under what part is that
[09:51] <Sulo_Seppa> 1sec
[09:52] <llutz> Section "Device"
[09:52] <llutz>  "Driver" "nvidia"
[09:52] <llutz> change into "Driver" "nv"
[09:52] <Sulo_Seppa> yeah
[09:52] <atwo1> how do i save it
[09:53] <Sulo_Seppa> alt-x to exit then it asks to save I think
[09:53] <atwo1> no that made help mode disabled
[09:53] <Sulo_Seppa> ctrl-x
[09:53] <atwo1> ok
[09:53] <atwo1> saved
[09:53] <atwo1> and i typed startx
[09:53] <vbgunz> when partitioning a disk, isn't there a way to say *not* to automatically allocate 6% of the drive or something? I just formatted a 80GB hard disk, I got 75 out of it. with kubuntu insisting on taking 6% of space, I now only have 71GB of space... anyone know how to resize that 6%?
[09:53] <atwo1> it's not 6%
[09:54] <atwo1> finally, desktop is loaded
[09:54] <vbgunz> my system backup is 73GB, I cannot trim it anymore :(
[09:54] <StevenR> vbgunz: 80GB? 80GiB ?
[09:54] <Sulo_Seppa> You want to remove the tables? good luck with that lol
[09:54] <waltercool_eee> exist a method for know the cpu temp??
[09:54] <sub[t]rnl>  /quit
[09:55] <StevenR> waltercool_eee: lm_sensors
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> woops
[09:55] <Sulo_Seppa> acpi -P
[09:55] <atwo1> ok
[09:55] <atwo1> Sulo_Seppa: now my res is screwed how can i fix it without that restricted driver
[09:55] <llutz> vbgunz: ext3? use tune2fs
[09:55] <waltercool_eee> StevenR: but i /proc?
[09:55] <Sulo_Seppa> Without the driver? I dunno
[09:55] <atwo1> how can i force 1440x900 cover the whole scvreen instead of squishing the left side inwards by 200px
[09:56] <waltercool_eee> in
[09:56] <vbgunz> StevenR: it's pitched as an 80GB hard drive, looking at the label, it says 82.3GB. after formatting, the total size is 75GB, Kubuntu is taking up 6% and its leaving me with 71GB. my backup is 73GB :(
[09:56] <Sulo_Seppa> waltercool_eee: acpi -P
[09:56] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: Well..
[09:57] <atwo1> its in native res now
[09:57] <atwo1> but the left is shoved over
[09:57] <waltercool_eee> Sulo_Seppa: Wow... thanks!! :P
[09:57] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: if you really want to, then edit that xorg.conf file again and add the resolution you want with all of the other ones. it should be pretty obvious, but make sure to back it up
[09:57] <llutz> vbgunz: man  tune2fs (-m)
[09:57] <atwo1> its in the native res, it pushes the left side over for some reason
[09:57] <atwo1> its covernig 15% of the screen as a thicxk vertical black strip
[09:57] <Sulo_Seppa> Oh
[09:58] <atwo1> oi
[09:58] <atwo1> ok
[09:58] <atwo1> i typed
[09:58] <atwo1> alt ctrl backspc
[09:58] <atwo1> it does
[09:58] <Sulo_Seppa> Heh
[09:58] <atwo1> xinit: connection to x server lost
[09:58] <atwo1> then a prompt
[09:58] <atwo1> then i have to type startx
[09:58] <atwo1> man im reinstalling
[09:58] <Sulo_Seppa> ctrl+alt+backspace logs you out
[09:58] <atwo1> and just not using that shit restricted thing
[09:59] <atwo1> it jstu kills it
[09:59] <vbgunz> llutz: without a walkthrough, that man will take me quite a while to understand :( do you know of a walkthrough using tune2fs that addresses the 6% issue?
[09:59] <StevenR> vbgunz: what is this 6% ?
[09:59] <vbgunz> I found one once, I never thought I would need it. now I want to take a backup off site and am 2GB greater than the target :(
[09:59] <llutz> vbgunz: set it to 2%: sudo  tune2fs -m 2 /dev/sdXY
[10:00] <vbgunz> llutz: I'll try
[10:00] <vbgunz> let me check man on -m
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:01] <llutz> <- not resonsible for data-loss
[10:01] <atwo1> kubuntu
[10:01] <atwo1> yes
[10:01] <vbgunz> reserved-blocks-percentage, default is 5%... konqueror reported it as 6%
[10:01] <atwo1> god i can't believe its so easy to completely screw this kubuntu os
[10:01] <Sulo_Seppa> atwo1: if you want you can go with arch :p
[10:01] <atwo1> all i do is tick 1 box and it doesn't even load
[10:01] <llutz> vbgunz: they may have used a different value when creating the fs
[10:01] <atwo1> it can't even snap the res to the size of the monitor
[10:01] <atwo1> why am i even bothering with it
[10:02] <atwo1> stressing and trying to figure it out when it can't even work out what res to use correctly when it's already turned on
[10:02] <atwo1> w t f
[10:02] <spitfire> hi all, is there DVD player ready with all the plugins, i cant play DVD's
[10:02] <ardchoille> !wtf | atwo1
[10:02] <ubotu> atwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:02] <atwo1> sigh
[10:02] <atwo1> ardchoille: do u just watch the channel all day waiting for someone to swear
[10:02] <vbgunz> llutz: one quetion, /dev/sdc OR /dev/sdc1?
[10:02] <atwo1> so you can enter triggers
[10:03] <Sulo_Seppa> spitfire: get mplayer and the dvd restricted stuff
[10:03] <llutz> vbgunz: sdc1, partition not coplete disk
[10:03] <llutz> +m
[10:03] <spitfire> i read it on the internet, but i didnt understand how to go about it
[10:03] <vbgunz> llutz: well, the disk is fresh, no problem wrecking it :)
[10:03] <vbgunz> I'll try
[10:03] <llutz> spitfire: add medibuntu-repo and install libdvdcss2
[10:03] <johann787> Hi, I reinstalled ubuntur with the user tester and password tester but I´m unable to do a sudo , Im thinking of going to another OS this sucks, is there anyway I can bypass this ????
[10:04] <spitfire> llutz: can i use apt-get for both?
[10:04] <johann787> the user tester is not in the sudoers list , this insident wil be repoted , and the I get a sendmail error
[10:04] <llutz> spitfire: not to add the repo
[10:04] <Sulo_Seppa> spitfire: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#CD.2FDVD
[10:06] <johann787> I´m using the server version of ubuntu
[10:06] <spitfire> llutz:
[10:06] <spitfire> E: Type '“deb' is not known on line 78 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <spitfire> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:06] <spitfire> :S
[10:06] <spitfire> Sulo_Seppa: sorry that was for you
[10:07] <vbgunz> llutz: very sweet!
[10:07] <llutz> spitfire: "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free" <- entry
[10:07] <llutz> vbgunz: did it work?
[10:07] <vbgunz> 74.5GB, not I can squeeze 73 in just fine and take it off site :)
[10:07] <vbgunz> s/not/now
[10:07] <vbgunz> llutz: excellent tip, plenty thanks!
[10:07] <llutz> welcome
[10:08] <jilws> hi
[10:08] <spitfire> sigh, watever man, i have no idea whats going on, thanks anyway
[10:08] <llutz> vbgunz: xmas coming soon, time for new, bigger HDDs
[10:09] <jilws> care  to chat
[10:09] <vzduch> spitfire: syntax error.. did you paste the "" as well?
[10:09] <vzduch> these have nothing to do in there
[10:10] <spitfire> llutz: someone told me to do this echo deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <jilws> guy
[10:10] <jilws> guyz
[10:10] <spitfire> i did it, but nothing happened
[10:10] <llutz> bah no automatix!
[10:10] <ardchoille> spitfire: Please do not use automatix
[10:10] <spitfire> wow ok
[10:10] <spitfire> lol
[10:10] <ardchoille> !automatix
[10:10] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:11] <vbgunz> llutz: I have over 600GB in the box, 71GB is ill recoverable if something bad happened
[10:11] <llutz> spitfire: you are still on dapper?
[10:11] <spitfire> ok  i wont, but when i look at the list that you showed me, i didnt understand ****
[10:11] <ardchoille> spitfire: Please make sure automatix is not in your sources.list
[10:11] <hagabaka> has flash player stopped working for anyone?
[10:11] <hagabaka> in konqueror
[10:11] <llutz> spitfire: paste your sources.list to pastebin please
[10:11] <spitfire> so wait... i open konsole
[10:11] <llutz> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:12] <tt_> hi
[10:12] <jilws> hi tt
[10:12] <tt_> anyone could tell me how to set gcc flags?
[10:12] <atwo1> !gcc
[10:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:12] <tt_> lol thats not my answer but thanks ;)
[10:12] <atwo1> heh
[10:13] <atwo1> !gccflags
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gccflags - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <atwo1> lulx
[10:13] <jilws> what up
[10:13] <tt_> i was trying to find the file make.conf (like in gentoo) so i have onnly to set flags their and it do the rest for me
[10:13] <tt_> but it seems like i cant  find it in kubuntu
[10:13] <johann787> anyone know why I get the sudo error after install ?
[10:14] <tt_> sudo error?
[10:14] <jilws> anyone have nba live 2008?
[10:14] <jrsims> How can I get my terminal to be transparent?
[10:14] <jrsims> and is there a compositor for kde?
[10:14] <tt_> go to system  -> Admin -> Users and reset your password by ur hand
[10:14] <johann787> sudo passwd root -> Error: the user tester is not on the sudoers list, even if he is in the adm group
[10:14] <jrsims> I like drop shadows behind my windows
[10:14] <ardchoille> jilws: This is a support channel for kubuntu. You are welcome to join #kubuntu-offtopic for off-topic chat :)
[10:15] <ianJ> you would need to use the rescue disk and groups id test the user and groupadd for that user
[10:15] <johann787> tt_: I´m not in graphical mode
[10:15] <tt_> oh
[10:15] <jilws> can ask?
[10:15] <tt_> too bad , i dont use shell/bash commands too much :S , so i cant help you in this
[10:16] <tt_> but its somethings in the users mangrs (as i guess)
[10:16] <stupidDood> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48182/
[10:16] <johann787> tt_: do you know how to start the x mode ?
[10:16] <jilws> how can i install ah windows office in kubuntu
[10:16] <tt_> startx  , gdm or somethings
[10:16] <johann787> tt_: ok thx
[10:16] <tt_> np :) (i hope its correct)
[10:17] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[10:17] <llutz> stupidDood: your actual sources.list pls
[10:17] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <Frieza> hello adept had a crash and is read only how to fix?
[10:17] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Good thing you misspelled automatix :)
[10:18] <ardchoille> !adeptfix | Frieza
[10:18] <ubotu> Frieza: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:19] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i create a PDF
[10:19] <stupidDood> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48183/
[10:20] <sub[t]rnl> Jay-Oh-En: open office can make them
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> k then ill try
[10:20] <llutz> stupidDood:  make the end looking like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48184/
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i installl open office?
[10:20] <Frieza> and how can you clean the kubuntu installation ? because i only have 300 mb over from the 4 gb
[10:20] <Jay-Oh-En> sub[t]rnl: my open office got deleted
[10:21] <Jay-Oh-En> :[
[10:21] <llutz> stupidDood: delete the two automatix-lines, and add the medibuntu
[10:21] <ardchoille> stupidDood: You're also going to need to add the repo key if you plan to use the medibuntu repo
[10:22] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | stupidDood
[10:22] <ubotu> stupidDood: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:22] <sirjoshimus> how do you read a .lit file?
[10:23] <llutz> sirjoshimus: ask microsoft ;)
[10:23] <sub[t]rnl> Frieza: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean might help a bit
[10:24] <sirjoshimus> llutz: i got a bunch of ebooks and don't know how to open them
[10:24] <stupidDood> llutz: its not saving after i add the file in the source list
[10:24] <sirjoshimus> llutz: i felt m$ was the culpit, by gad
[10:24] <llutz> sirjoshimus: its a proprietary ms-format
[10:24] <stupidDood> line not file sorry
[10:25] <sirjoshimus> llutz: i see
[10:25] <llutz> sirjoshimus: google convertlit
[10:25] <sirjoshimus> llutz: openoffice and kwrite wont read them
[10:25] <atwo1> man
[10:25] <atwo1> this OS
[10:25] <atwo1> kubuntu
[10:25] <atwo1> i've reinstalled like 3 times already
[10:25] <atwo1> i have no idea why people use it
[10:25] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: whats your boggle
[10:25] <llutz> stupidDood: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list   then change the file and save, you need root-rights
[10:26] <atwo1> a simple operation of setting the resolution to be native and not have a 200px black gap on the left side that squashes the screen over
[10:27] <Jay-Oh-En> i just installed open office and now it looks ugly
[10:28] <atwo1> hi jon
[10:28] <llutz> ugly as hell or ugly as gtk?
[10:28] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo1: lol
[10:28] <Jay-Oh-En> llutz: like its grey and big fonts
[10:29] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: press the auto button on your monitor
[10:29] <atwo1> it doesn't work its some other issue
[10:29] <stupidDood> llutz: done that
[10:29] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: then my sympathies
[10:29] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: what OS were you using before kubuntu
[10:29] <llutz> stupidDood: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 libdvdread3
[10:30] <atwo1> windows on this box
[10:30] <atwo1> xp
[10:30] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Did you add the medibuntu repo key like i suggested?
[10:30] <atwo1> but kub is installing on ther now
[10:30] <atwo1> im reinstalling
[10:30] <stupidDood> llutz: shall i install without verification or with
[10:31] <llutz> stupidDood: without or add the repo-key before like ardchoille suggested
[10:31] <ardchoille> stupidDood: Adding the medibuntu key will fix that verification problem ;)
[10:31] <sirjoshimus> atwo1: so you're saying its just the black space that happens?
[10:31] <llutz> ardchoille: he ignores you :)
[10:31] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[10:31] <sirjoshimus> and your monitor auto center isnt working?
[10:32] <ardchoille> llutz: Ah, ok
[10:32] <stupidDood> llutz: ok now what?
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix
[10:33] <llutz> stupidDood: installation completed?
[10:33] <stupidDood> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[10:33] <stupidDood> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[10:33] <stupidDood> spitfire@Sonic:~$
[10:33] <stupidDood> llutz: i guess
[10:35] <sirjoshimus> llutz: thanks for the help, im converting them
[10:36] <llutz> fine, play dvds and add that fr...ng repo key as described on www.medibuntu.org
[10:37] <llutz> stupidDood: ^^
[10:38] <llutz> stupidDood: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <Jay-Oh-En> this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix
[10:40]  * stupidDood is crying, done all that and still wont play DVD's
[10:40] <llutz> stupidDood: which app, kaffeine?
[10:41] <stupidDood> yea
[10:41] <stupidDood> llutz: says no plugin to handle this something something
[10:41] <llutz> !dvd
[10:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:43] <atwo1> oi
[10:43] <atwo1> where is that resolv.conf thing
[10:44] <atwo1> ?
[10:44] <atwo1> kdesu kate somethinsomethnig/resolv.conf
[10:45] <atwo1> ??????¿????
[10:46] <atwo1> anyone
[10:48] <atwo1> PLZ SOMEONE
[10:49] <atwo1> where is resolv.conf i have to add a nameserevr in it
[10:51] <atwo1> never mind
[10:51] <atwo1> i found itttttttt
[10:56] <poison--> morning guys
[10:56] <atwo1> N\/h
[10:56] <atwo1> hi*
[10:56] <Jay-Oh-En> this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix
[10:58] <atwo1> oi
[10:58] <atwo1> [08:56pm] <atwo1> N\/h
[10:58] <atwo1> [08:56pm] <atwo1> hi*
[10:58] <atwo1> LOL
[10:58] <Jay-Oh-En> wow where do you live
[10:58] <Jay-Oh-En> its 2:56 in the morning here
[10:58] <romunov> noon here
[10:58] <atwo1> australia
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> dang
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> i live in las vegas
[10:59] <atwo1> omfg
[10:59] <atwo1> do u gamble constantly
[10:59] <romunov> i'm from europe :>
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> no
[10:59] <atwo1> oi
[10:59] <atwo1> are u near hungary
[10:59] <romunov> werent there some school shootings in vegas recently?
[10:59] <atwo1> i want a hungarian wife
[10:59] <romunov> neighboring country, as a matter of fact
[10:59] <Jay-Oh-En> romunov: yes
[10:59] <atwo1> they're all so fkin delicious
[10:59] <romunov> brides.hu? :>
[11:00] <atwo1> LOl
[11:00] <Jay-Oh-En> brides.ru
[11:00] <romunov> women are the same no matter where you go
[11:00] <romunov> oh, except japan.. i hear
[11:00] <Jay-Oh-En> omfg japanies girls are bomb
[11:00] <atwo1> no
[11:00] <atwo1> wait
[11:00] <atwo1> hungary
[11:00] <Jay-Oh-En> omfg "Japanese" girls are bomb
[11:00] <atwo1> have u seen sophie moone
[11:00] <romunov> i was thinking in terms of a different culture
[11:00] <atwo1> and sandy whatstername
[11:00] <atwo1> wait up wait up
[11:01] <atwo1> hungary > *
[11:01] <atwo1> i'm <i>hungary</i> for those girls LUL
[11:01] <romunov> and how old are you?
[11:01] <Jay-Oh-En> mexico = dirt
[11:01] <atwo1> mexico
[11:01] <atwo1> = how chicks with black hair and tanned skin
[11:01] <Jay-Oh-En> africa = dirt/AIDs
[11:02] <romunov> and i'm telling you, they're all the same
[11:02] <Riddell> atwo1, Jay-Oh-En: lets stop this now
[11:02] <romunov> everywhere they want half :>
[11:02] <Jay-Oh-En> ok
[11:02] <romunov> (reminiscent of eddy murphy's standup gig)
[11:02] <Jay-Oh-En> sorry Riddell :D
[11:03] <poison--> !offtopic
[11:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:03] <atwo1> ease up
[11:03] <atwo1> it was a 5 second deviation
[11:03] <atwo1> :>
[11:03] <atwo1> god
[11:03] <atwo1> im so drunk/smashed already
[11:03] <atwo1> it's been such along week
[11:03] <atwo1> im sick of working
[11:03] <atwo1> wait
[11:03] <atwo1> lets go
[11:03] <atwo1> !ot
[11:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:33] <ricanelite> for some reason i cannot get amarok running right, i just installed Kubuntu and when i installed amarok it opens very slow and runs slow
[11:33] <ricanelite> i just removed it, should i restart my pc and then try to install it amarok again?
[11:33] <Stevethepirate> ricanelite: you ever used Amarok before?
[11:34] <ricanelite> no
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> Hmm.
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> When you say "runs slow" what you mean?
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> Like when you try play a song?
[11:34] <Stevethepirate> Or in general?
[11:34] <ricanelite> well just opening up
[11:35] <ricanelite> well yeah in general
[11:35] <ricanelite> like now it crashed and took forever to close it up
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> How much RAM you got?
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> And CPU?
[11:35] <ricanelite> 2 gig of ram
[11:35] <ricanelite> dual core pentium 2.0ghz
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> Hmm. I have similar
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> but 4 gigs ram, and 2.4 ghz CPU :P
[11:35] <Stevethepirate> um. okay.
[11:36] <ricanelite> yeah i will upgrading my ram in the next few weeks
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> rm -rf ~/.amarok
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get remove amarok
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get install amarok
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> Go into it.
[11:36] <Stevethepirate> See again.
[11:36] <Kohlrabi> actually amarok doesn't need 4 gigs :)
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> No, seriously, shame that i bought the extra 3 gigs -just- for amarok
[11:37] <grandi> it doesn't?
[11:37] <atwo1> oi
[11:37] <atwo1> my res is screwed
[11:37] <atwo1> its on native res
[11:37] <atwo1> and the left side is squished over by abnuot 200 px
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> Kohlrabi: its quite obvious. I've used amarok on my 64 meg RAM p2...
[11:37] <Kohlrabi> yeah
[11:37] <Stevethepirate> atwo1: adjust the screen
[11:37] <atwo1> LOL
[11:37] <atwo1> that doesnt work man
[11:37] <atwo1> SRSLY
[11:37] <atwo1> its some drive fk up
[11:38] <Stevethepirate> or, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:38] <Kohlrabi> Stevethepirate: I wasn't the one going to upgrade his RAM :P
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> I was just asking
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> I've had people asking why their PC runs slow
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> and its like 256 meg /ram
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> ugh
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> OK :)
[11:39] <Stevethepirate> running like apache servers, tinyproxy, and liek 100 services
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> still, you could use amrok just fine, if you confi..
[11:39] <Kohlrabi> yeah, OK :)
[11:41] <grandi> well my firefox runs slow
[11:41] <grandi> i think some update messed someting up
[11:47] <dansko> Hi
[11:47] <dansko> can someone help me?
[11:47] <luke_> with what?
[11:47] <dansko> i got a problem
[11:47] <dansko> i used opensuse first
[11:47] <Tw|sT> Atleast it's just firefox running slow, and not a distribution upgrade gone wrong...  A few weeks ago, I came in from work exhausted, not thinking, and ran the Kubuntu Dist. upgrade via synaptic... it worked... at first... but 1/3 way thru the upgrade, it bricked!  I ended up having to backup everything I could via tarballing the directories, and had to reinstall... so I upgraded that way instead
[11:47] <dansko> but i tried kubuntu now
[11:48] <dansko> but the problem is, theres a lot diffrent from opensuse
[11:48] <dansko> i want to install programs like compiz fusion and the themes and stuff
[11:48] <luke_> right
[11:48] <dansko> but i can only install compiz manager
[11:48] <luke_> you use apt
[11:48] <luke_> or adept manager
[11:48] <dansko> ye i tried
[11:48] <dansko> but theres a lot less software then opensuse
[11:48] <Tw|sT> have you installed synaptic
[11:48] <dansko> or can i add repositories?
[11:48] <luke_> yes you can
[11:49] <luke_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <Tw|sT> 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[11:49] <luke_> add repos to that
[11:49] <dansko> oke where can i find a list with all repositories?
[11:49] <luke_> I don't think there is one :)
[11:49] <luke_> there is one for Compiz Fusion
[11:49] <dansko> lolz, where i find the repos then?
[11:49] <dansko> yes but i want community repos
[11:49] <dansko> with lots of craps :P
[11:49] <Tw|sT> search google: Kubuntu Apt repos
[11:50] <dansko> oki
[11:50] <dansko> ty
[11:50] <Tw|sT> ;)
[11:50] <Tw|sT> np
[11:50] <luke_> and enable universe and multiverse repos in sources.list
[11:50] <Tw|sT> absolutely
[11:51] <dansko> sorry, im not familiar with text mode and console
[11:51] <dansko> u just used windowmanager
[11:51] <Tw|sT> you'd like synaptic, alot , I think.  it's totally graphical
[11:51] <luke_> That's Gnome isn't it?
[11:51] <dansko> i dont know, i just use kde
[11:51] <luke_> use Adept Manager
[11:51] <Tw|sT> it works regardless
[11:51] <luke_> :)
[11:52] <dansko> can i ask you something
[11:52] <luke_> I don't like Gnome
[11:52] <luke_> yes
[11:52] <dansko> me neither
[11:52] <Tw|sT> I don't either
[11:52] <Tw|sT> sure
[11:52] <dansko> is kubuntu really the most popular distro?
[11:52] <dansko> and user friendly?
[11:52] <luke_> yes
[11:52] <dansko> lolz oke
[11:52] <luke_> It has been for me anyway :)
[11:52] <dansko> i think i REALLY REALLY REALLY need to get used to kubuntu
[11:52] <dansko> cuz im like holy crap wtf is this
[11:52] <Tw|sT> last I remember, it was... but check http://distrowatch.com
[11:52] <dansko> ok, i used opensuse before, and i liked it alot
[11:52] <luke_> hehe
[11:52] <dansko> lots of software and stuff
[11:53] <johann787> I found out how to enable the root account in the server version Its rather simple and should be documented
[11:53] <dansko> yes i used that
[11:53] <luke_> I don't really like SuSE
[11:53] <dansko> why not?:)
[11:53] <johann787> boot the cd again and choose rescue
[11:53] <ardchoille> johann787: They don't want it documented
[11:53] <johann787> ask for a command shell and change the password for root
[11:53] <luke_> It's really confusing
[11:53] <Tw|sT> personally, and I've used many distros, Kubuntu has been the most friendly distro I've used since 1997
[11:53] <dansko> why's that?
[11:54] <ardchoille> johann787: Please don't post that here, it's neither recommended nor necessary
[11:54] <dansko> ok, well i like kubuntu alot especially its very fast i think
[11:54] <johann787> If I´m setting up a server I want to enebla the root acount , but if im setting up a desktop machine the sudo is fine
[11:54] <dansko> but i need to get used to all the functions
[11:54] <luke_> indeed
[11:54] <ardchoille> johann787: That's fine for your server, but we should follow recommended and supported procedure when advising others.
[11:54] <dansko> do you think there's more software available to (k)ubuntu than for SuseA?
[11:55] <dansko> -a
[11:55] <johann787> Well you need to know about the sudo BUG in the 7.10, I´m unable to do a sudo when I´m finished installing
[11:55] <Tw|sT> best bet... if you want root active, don't use Kubuntu, or Ubuntu... use Debian 4.0r1 instead.  It's more designed for hackers/programmers
[11:55] <luke_> dansko: there is the same ammount
[11:55] <Tw|sT> have you tried using 'sudu su' ?
[11:55] <dansko> ohyeah, its universal aint it?
[11:55] <Tw|sT> yup
[11:56] <dansko> so if i want to use repos from suse i can use them on kubu?
[11:56] <dansko> for exampl
[11:56] <Tw|sT> negative
[11:56] <dansko> e
[11:56] <dansko> i thought so
[11:56] <Tw|sT> the packages are compiled differently
[11:56] <luke_> you can use alien
[11:56] <luke_> but it doesn't always work
[11:56] <Tw|sT> suse uses RPMs, like Fedora/RHEL
[11:56] <ardchoille> Use of alien is also not recommended.
[11:56] <dansko> ok
[11:56] <ardchoille> !alien
[11:56] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:57] <Tw|sT> Kubuntu uses DEB packages, like debian
[11:57] <dansko> aha ok :)
[11:57] <luke_> you can always complie it
[11:57] <dansko> yes but i think compiling is a risk
[11:57] <Tw|sT> now, you *can* use Debian packages natively
[11:57] <dansko> i dont even know what it means exactly ;p
[11:57] <Kohlrabi> dansko: why?
[11:57] <Kohlrabi> It just takes ages
[11:57] <dansko> cuz last time u needed to enable xgl
[11:58] <Kohlrabi> When you need to compile every app
[11:58] <luke_> I think not
[11:58] <Tw|sT> I've had no probs compiling from source, other than getting the dev environment together in the first place...
[11:58] <dansko> i used this command: gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and i forgot one -
[11:58] <dansko> my pc wouldnt boot anymore :P thats only a command
[11:58] <Tw|sT> the problem was that there is no meta-package for it
[11:58] <dansko> when i try to compile amsn the computer trips like hell
[11:58] <Tw|sT> so, ya gotta know what you need.
[11:58] <Kohlrabi> dansko: maybe just x wasn't starting?
[11:58] <dansko> i dont know, im a newbie to linu
[11:58] <dansko> x
[11:59] <Kohlrabi> ok :)
[11:59] <dansko> :p
[11:59] <dansko> ima find some repos
[11:59] <dansko> ty for help :)
[11:59] <luke_> :)
[11:59] <Tw|sT> that's one area where I've found that Fedora's package system was better thought out... but, all distros are constantly improving, and I expect that that will be remedied soon enough... ppl just have to request it and it'll eventually happen
[12:02] <Tw|sT> but, that said, I sucessfully installed a good dev environment, enough to compile UnrealIRCD, espernet IRC services, and bopm onto a Athlon 64 3000+ running Kubuntu 7.10-x64
[12:02] <Tw|sT> it's been running flawlessly now for about 6 weeks on that installation.
[12:04] <Tw|sT> though, I *do* have one complaint... but it's with another vendor... UltraVNC should be ported to Linux.  I say that because it's got the best security model of any VNC server that I've used since VNC arrived on the scene
[12:04] <Kohlrabi> the good thing is that you can "apt-get build-dep" for packages which are present in apt
[12:04] <Kohlrabi> I didn't knew that a while back, gave me headaches compiling mplayer-SVN :)
[12:05]  * Tw|sT works on his Linux & Windows Servers remotely, most of the time, using Xming to make a XDCMP connection to the Xserver itself.
[12:05] <Tw|sT> (rather, uses UltraVNC for windows servers, and Xming for Linux)
[12:08] <Tw|sT> Synaptic, which is a front end for apt, has that option (build-dep).  It also has an option that auto adds recommended packages as if they were deps.  This is really handy.
[12:10] <Tw|sT> btw, synaptic is multi platform.  I started using it on Red Hat 8.0-psyche, and have used it on every distro since.  On a few of them, I did have to add repos (found them via a google search), but overall it's been the best package manager that I've found
[12:11] <Kohlrabi> wasn't synaptic the GNOME-pendant to adept? :)
[12:12] <ardchoille> Kohlrabi: most gnome apps can run quite well in kde and vice-versa
[12:12] <Tw|sT> I'm not sure that it's gnome dependent, but then again, I always install support for gnome apps.  Thing is, I do that only so that I can run gnome apps within KDE
[12:12] <atwo1> wtf just happened
[12:12] <Tw|sT> right
[12:12] <ardchoille> atwo1: Please watch your language in this channel. You have been given several reminders.
[12:14] <atwo1> Jay-Oh-En: oi
[12:14] <atwo1> talk here so he shuts up
[12:15] <atwo1> Jay-Oh-En: oi
[12:15] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo1: pastebin.com
[12:15] <Jay-Oh-En> oi?
[12:15] <atwo1> wait up
[12:15] <gnu> hi
[12:16] <atwo1> god what a tosser
[12:16] <Jay-Oh-En> seriously
[12:16] <Jay-Oh-En> omg
[12:17] <Jay-Oh-En> he needs a nap
[12:17] <aone> http://pastebin.com/d44dbde48
[12:17] <Jay-Oh-En> so atwo
[12:17] <atwo> there
[12:17] <atwo> ^
[12:18] <Tw|sT> anyways, as soon as I install Kubuntu, I open Konsole, and run 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'.  After Synaptic is installed, I install the two meta packages 'KDE' & 'gnome'.  This installs all the base packages for both environments.  From there, you can install anything else you need with a much higher level of success of it working.
[12:18] <Mez> atwo, don't make me ban you here too
[12:18] <atwo> Mez: leave me alone please i'm working on this issue, thx
[12:18] <Mez> atwo, then stop making personal attacks against members of the community
[12:18] <atwo> i'm not making personal anythnig on anyone im trying to talk to jay oh en
[12:18] <atwo> you're just hassling me
[12:19] <atwo> and im not even talking to u in here
[12:19] <atwo> Jay-Oh-En: any idea?
[12:19] <atwo> on what to change to make it work
[12:19] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: yes
[12:19] <atwo> it's on native res atm
[12:19] <atwo> but it pushes the left side over
[12:19] <dansko> hi im back again
[12:19] <atwo> for some odd reason
[12:19] <crush_groove> Tw|sT, / what are meta packages ?
[12:19] <Tw|sT> I have an idea... use a query chat.
[12:19] <Mez> atwo, I believe calling me a tosser is consdered an attack
[12:19] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: ill edit your xorg
[12:19] <dansko> twist can you help me again for a sec?
[12:19] <Tw|sT> crush_groove: meta-packages are compound packages that link to several subpackages.
[12:20] <Tw|sT> basically, they install suites of applications
[12:20]  * Tw|sT is about out of time... and has to get ready for work
[12:20] <atwo> Jay-Oh-En: ok
[12:20] <Tw|sT> dansko: I'll send you my email address, and will help out as possible as time allows.
[12:21] <dansko> ok that would be great
[12:21] <kubu> question.. the universe repo is not included on the dvd right? only main and restricted?
[12:21] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: ok i edited it
[12:21] <Jay-Oh-En> http://pastebin.com/m27ff289b
[12:22] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: or just go to system settings
[12:22] <Tw|sT> dansko : see PM.
[12:22] <Jay-Oh-En> monitor and display atwo
[12:23] <atwo> how do i copy it all
[12:23]  * Tw|sT splits to get ready for work
[12:23] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: then set it there
[12:23] <E_mE> ive backed up my home directory to a new drive under /usr/home .. i will be reinstalling kubuntu from afresh onto / and then linking my /home to /usr/home after reinstall.. should all my app configurations remain as before?
[12:23] <Jay-Oh-En> atwo: join #mychannel
[12:23] <dansko> can anybody help me?
[12:24] <kubu> hmm.. have i gotten it right? b|cos if i use the dvd only and add universe to it. it wount work, so for using universe you have to use an online repo right?
[12:24] <dansko> i tried to install packages, but when i do its says that it cant connect, cant find source for packages or that when it installs packages it could be that it screws up system...?
[12:26] <crush_groove> sudo apt-get gnome? << will install meta package?
[12:26] <dani_> hi
[12:26] <crush_groove> hello dani
[12:28] <ardchoille> crush_groove: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:28] <atwo> !resolution
[12:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:37] <atwo> well
[12:37] <atwo> i give up
[12:37] <sigma_kubuntu> anyone here used skype for linux and adobe reader 8 for linux?
[12:37] <atwo> this piece of ass system can't even detect the resolution on a fresh install
[12:37] <atwo> waste of 2 days
[12:37] <sigma_kubuntu> atwo: give up at what?
[12:37] <atwo> on this Os
[12:37] <bazzieb> can someone help with format a usb attached HDD please???
[12:37] <atwo> krapbuntu
[12:38] <ktosia> $ ./skype
[12:38] <ktosia> bash: ./skype: No such file or directory
[12:38] <ktosia> ktosia@ktosiowo:~/dap/skype/skype_static-1.4.0.118$ file ./skype
[12:38] <ktosia> ./skype: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[12:38] <ktosia> wtf ?!
[12:38] <sigma_kubuntu> atwo: u using gutsy?
[12:38] <atwo> the latest
[12:38] <atwo> over and overi install it
[12:38] <atwo> and every fix i do just kilsl everything
[12:38] <atwo> and i have to reinstall
[12:38] <atwo> and it can't even snap res to the monitor size
[12:38] <atwo> on native res
[12:39] <atwo> terrible crap
[12:39] <atwo> someone tell me if there's a linux version worth getting started on that isn't as crap as kubuntu that can't even work out the monitor res
[12:40] <ardchoille> atwo: I'm tired of your disrespect of others, disregard of channels rules, and overall bad attitude.
[12:40] <Jay-Oh-En> haha
[12:40] <Jay-Oh-En> good job
[12:41]  * Jay-Oh-En high fives ardchoille
[12:43] <sigma_kubuntu> why can speedcrunch not be displayed using the arial font?
[12:49] <kubu> !universe
[12:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:50] <Ressu^> Suomalaisia ? :F
[12:53] <mib_> i'm searchin for the command to configure my xorg in use of a dialog
[12:54] <mib_> can somebody help me
[12:54] <Riddell> mib_: displayconfig
[12:54] <Riddell> or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <ardchoille> mib_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:55] <mib_> i'll try thx
[12:55] <crush_groove>  does that command replace original config from the primary package .. or is that a way to edit the xconfig file ?
[12:57] <mib_> now what is the newer drv, th "nv" or the "nvidia", or are they the same (have a geforce 4400 ti)
[12:57] <ardchoille> crush_groove: It edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <ardchoille> mib_: You should use the nv (2d) driver unless you have manually installed the nvidia (3d) driver
[12:57] <crush_groove> ty ardchoille  .. just sittin here watchin and learning .. so my questions are kinda random
[12:57] <ruxpin> will kde4 be available for 7.10 release?
[12:58] <ardchoille> crush_groove: Good job, that's how  ilearned so much :)
[12:58] <mib_> have installed it already nvidia-glx-drivers
[12:58] <crush_groove> ruxpin kde4 will be released in jan
[12:58] <mib_> did an tut for this
[12:58] <ardchoille> ruxpin: 7.10 has already been released.
[12:58] <crush_groove> "supossedly"
[12:58] <crush_groove>  7.10 is released based on gnome
[12:58] <crush_groove>  kde is released based on kde
[12:59] <ardchoille> mib_: Then you can use the nvidia driver
[13:06] <apothus> l
[13:07] <apothus> Hi i am looking to transfer a stack of files, from an ubuntu install to windows yet i cannot get write permissions to the external drive i want to use, any ideas?
[13:08] <maarten> is the external drive ntfs formatted?
[13:08] <apothus> yeah :(
[13:08] <maarten> ok, and do you use the 'new' ntfs-3g driver?
[13:08] <apothus> i dont think so
[13:09] <maarten> hm, you need ntfs-3g to write to ntfs partition, the old driver only supports reading
[13:10] <apothus> ok great, thanks
[13:10] <apothus> ill give it a try
[13:11] <maarten> ok, you can install tne hte ntfs-3g package for the driver and the ntfs-config package to configure your system to use it
[13:11] <maarten> (you have to run ntfs-config and you can check which driver to use i believe)
[13:12] <apothus> ok
[13:12] <maarten> Now i have a question: about KDE4 RC2 build for hardy. Launchpad hasn't build the amd64 version yet and I see some errors in the buildlog for it because of dependancy problems. Does anyone know when the amd64 version will be succesfully build?
[13:13] <onishidato> hey
[13:13] <onishidato> can we scan Window XP virus from Kubuntu?
[13:13] <maarten> @noishidato: yes you can with clam-av
[13:14] <maarten> that is an opensource virusscanner
[13:14] <onishidato> maarten: can you say again th name?
[13:14] <crush_groove>  does linux need an av ? .. or anykind of exploit watch<> program ? or is it fairly safe if its a single user machine with no porn surfin and dlin .. haha
[13:14] <elisiano> clamav
[13:14] <maarten> onishidato: the name is actually clamav (withouth the dash)
[13:15] <maarten> onishidato: you can use klamav as kde frontend if necessary
[13:16] <onishidato> you know
[13:16] <maarten> crhush_groove: it depends on your usage but as workstation usually not. As a server you could use a firewall etc
[13:16] <onishidato> my window has virus
[13:16] <onishidato> but i can't get in to fix it
[13:16] <onishidato> so
[13:16] <mib> i have several problems with my graphic settings, fist i can´t start "nvidia-settings"
[13:16] <crush_groove>  ty maarten
[13:16] <onishidato> i have to use Kubuntu to fix it outside
[13:16] <mib> (nvidia-settings:5454): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:17] <maarten> onishidato: If your windows is really infected i would try to save my files with kubuntu (scan them with clamav to be sure they don't have any viruses) and back them up. next reinstall your windows ;)
[13:18] <dreamcoder> still cant get frostwire to work grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:18] <onishidato> maarten: yeah
[13:18] <onishidato> maarten: i'm trying to do that, thanks :)
[13:19] <onishidato> !clamav
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <mib> @all: can somebody help me, wann start nvidia setting but it wont > (nvidia-settings:5454): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:19] <ruxpin> ardchoille: so? :)
[13:20] <ruxpin> ardchoille: I asked if it will be available for 7.10
[13:20] <mib> also nvidia-glx-enable seems to work but theres no change in the xorg.conf then
[13:20] <ardchoille> ruxpin: 7.10 was released back in October
[13:20] <ruxpin> ardchoille: and is updated frequently, no?
[13:20] <mib> nvidia-glx-config enable of course
[13:21] <ardchoille> ruxpin: I'm not up on kde4, I don't use it. But I have seen the rc updates available in the repos
[13:21] <ruxpin> ardchoille: yeah, that's what the kubuntu web site says .. I just wonder if it'll be officially supported
[13:21] <ardchoille> mib: Try this in a terminal: kdesu nvidia-settings
[13:22] <ardchoille> ruxpin: I'm not sure
[13:23] <mib> adchoille: ok that works thx, but what is about the nvidia-glx-config enable > what does it do?
[13:23] <mib> or what should it do
[13:23] <ardchoille> mib: I'm not sure what that command does exactly
[13:24] <mib> ardchoille: k
[13:25] <maarten> mib: it should switch the driver from nv to nvidia in your xorg.conf
[13:27] <dreamcoder> anyone know how to get kubuntu to work
[13:27] <dreamcoder> sorry
[13:27] <dreamcoder> anyone know how to get *frostwire* to work
[13:27] <crush_groove>  I ran the "tail -f /var/log/syslog" command just to see what it got me .. and I have like a TON of ips hitting my machine .. with nothing running .. any idea ?
[13:28] <cheguevara> dreamcoder, should just work
[13:28] <mib> maarten: k thanks, i read that it should add several option for section modules in xorg.conf but it didn´t do anything, so the nvidia setting was already set manually, nevermind, i do my setting with the nvidia-setting
[13:28] <cheguevara> whats the problem
[13:28] <dreamcoder> it shows in the taskbar then just closes
[13:28] <dreamcoder> i changed which java i was using but to no avail
[13:29] <cheguevara> gutsy>
[13:29] <cheguevara> *gutsy?
[13:29] <dreamcoder> yer gutsy
[13:29] <cheguevara> hmmm should work fine
[13:29] <cheguevara> tried running it from terminal?
[13:29] <dreamcoder> i will now one sex
[13:29] <dreamcoder> sec*
[13:29] <Voyage_> my firewall "firestarter" sys tray icon auto disappears, and i have to run it manually again every time. why.. ? how can i stop it?
[13:29] <cheguevara> :p
[13:30] <dreamcoder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48202/
[13:31] <bazhang> Voyage_: firestarter is merely a front end for iptables; once you set it, you don't need to leave it in the menu bar, like norton or pc-cillin
[13:31] <crush_groove> Voyage_,  .. open firestarter/edit/preferences/minimize to systray'
[13:31] <crush_groove> Voyage_,  IF you just want to see it
[13:31] <crush_groove> bazhang,  is correct
[13:32] <bazhang> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm Voyage_ read that please
[13:35] <Voyage_> crush_groove i have already enabled that option. but despite that. it auto disappears. i wan to see it all the time.  eg. to see alerts (play goes red) when a network intrusion is done.
[13:36] <dreamcoder> any clue?
[13:38] <crush_groove> Voyage_,  firestarter is woefully inadequate for seeing a network intrusion ...  if you just want to watch ips bounce off . its good  any1 who is good enough to intrude your nw is certainly good enough to get around fs.. if you have enabled BOTH the boxes in preferences id google it . cuz mine works fine on gutsy and on fiesty
[13:39] <Voyage_> how will i know for any intrussion has done... any even if i dont need to see the icon. why ... does it auto disappears..?
[13:42] <Voyage_> i want to see the icon changed to red when intrusion occurs. and i can see the blocked ip port in "events"
[13:42] <mohammad> Hello, How can I add all packages of Debian Etch DVD to Kubuntu Software Sources?
[13:44] <mohammad> crush_groove: ?
[13:44] <Lynoure> mohammad: it's not adviced for... But some packages will install fine.
[13:45] <bazhang> mohammad: why would you want to?
[13:46] <mohammad> Lynoure: Why? Kubuntu is debian-based and I think Debian packages should work properly in kubuntu, should they?
[13:47] <mohammad> bazhang: I have 3 DVD of debian and they have many packages, so I want to add them to my resources
[13:47] <bazhang> mohammad: what packages?
[13:47] <ardchoille> mohammad: Yes, kubuntu is debian-based, but there have been many modifications.. and I have seen people mess their systems by mixing distro packages.
[13:47] <Lynoure> mohammad: debian-based and debian are two slightly different things. The versions of software differ, and you might end up with a mess of debian and kubuntu that no-one wants to help you with
[13:48] <Lynoure> If you are capable of helping yourself, and find the risk of breakage worth it - or just interesting - go for it.
[13:50] <mohammad> bazhang: ardchoille: Lynoure: u mean there are special packages (for example Eclipse) for Debian and Kubuntu separately?
[13:50] <ardchoille> mohammad: yes, this is why there are debian repos and ubuntu repos.
[13:51] <bazhang> mohammad: you can search at packages.ubuntu.com; you can also add a firefox plugin to search from your google search window
[13:52] <bazhang> mohammad: alternately, you can open up konsole and type apt-cache search packagename and see if it is in there
[13:52] <mohammad> bazhang:  ardchoille: Oops, I have downloaded 4 un-useful DVDs? :((
[13:52] <ardchoille> mohammad: Useful if you plan to run debian :)
[13:52] <bazhang> mohammad: only if you don't want to run debia
[13:52] <bazhang> n
[13:53] <crush_groove> ardchoille,  is part of the trick to successfully getting a larger package selection to make yourself aware of alternate repositorys ? or is thier a main base that will load to your apt-get and thats it ..?
[13:54] <mohammad> bazhang: ardchoille: Unfotunatelly I dont remeber who told me to download these DVDs to add to Kubuntu repos, so I cant kill him :D
[13:55] <ardchoille> crush_groove: I always stick with the official repositories and add medibuntu. In doing this I have found that everything I need is in the repos. It does little good to add millions of repos if the packages are able to break things.
[13:56] <crush_groove> nodz ., thats what I have . ty
[13:56] <ardchoille> crush_groove: If you're running Gutsy, then all of the good repos shold be enabled by default.
[13:56] <mohammad> bazhang: ardchoille: thx
[13:56] <crush_groove> yessir
[13:56] <ardchoille> yw
[13:56] <bazhang> mohammad: no worries :}
[14:00] <rian> I've got a machine that has a network connection that at random times stalls for a random length of time
[14:01] <rian> I can start a ping and let it run and after X amount of time it pauses and then happily continues.. but in the time that it's pausing the machine is completely unavailable on the network
[14:05] <bazhang> rian: you can stop the ping; control c should do it
[14:06] <rian> well yes, but that's not the problem
[14:07] <crush_groove> sudo update && upgrade? <<< is that right
[14:07] <crush_groove> sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[14:07] <rian> bazhang: my network stalls, the ping is just a way of showing it
[14:07] <rian> crush_groove:
[14:07] <crush_groove> ?
[14:07] <rian> crush_groove: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:08] <rian> hit enter too fast ;)
[14:08] <crush_groove> drats
[14:08] <crush_groove>  ty rian
[14:08] <rian> np
[14:08] <crush_groove>  so with && you still need full path always ?
[14:09] <rian> for as far as I know, yeah
[14:09] <crush_groove> ko
[14:10] <rian> I don't often use &&, if I need to do more than one command I just hit enter first :p
[14:10] <crush_groove>  can you unpack that for me rian ?>
[14:10] <crush_groove>  if I hit eneter first I can run multiple commands with no switch ?
[14:11] <crush_groove> rian .. nm
[14:11] <crush_groove>  I gotcha
[14:11] <rian> heh, no. sorry.  I meant I don't often need to switch or pipe
[14:12] <crush_groove>  Im over here hittin enter again and again
[14:12] <crush_groove>  hahahahaha
[14:12] <crush_groove>  duh
[14:12] <rian> I wish I could figure out whats wrong with my other machine >_<  this network stall thing is really annoying
[14:14] <mikkael> is there a log file created by aptitude ?
[14:16] <neville> Do any of you good people know if it is possible to pick up what comes through S-Video or the Composite connectors in a TV tuner card in Kaffeine?
[14:16] <dreamcoder> i aint starting a row but i only want one OS so does anyone know of a way to use firmware toolbox 4.6 on kubuntu? if any one knows what that is
[14:17] <rian> neville: I'd say it's possible if the tv card is properly installed it should show up as an input device, or no?
[14:18] <rian> dreamcoder: no idea, never heard of it :)
[14:18] <dreamcoder> xbox 360 firmware tool
[14:18] <dreamcoder> it require .net framework to run
[14:19] <neville> It's detected fine by Kaffeine, and as the correct hardware
[14:19] <rian> dreamcoder: well, it might.. depending on which part of the .NET code it needs
[14:19] <rian> neville: but it's not showing output (or input, I guess)
[14:19] <neville> But no options to change input
[14:20] <neville> Yeah, pretty much
[14:21] <rian> neville: have you tried other apps? XawTV maybe? Just to test
[14:21] <neville> It also fails to find any television channels, which I've been attributing to a piddly antennae
[14:21] <neville> Nope, thanks for the idea though
[14:22] <rian> give XawTV a shot to see if you can capture the input there.. if not I'd probably look at the driver
[14:22] <Teixen> fdg
[14:23] <neville> Okay, thanks for the info
[14:23] <Dizzm> hey
[14:23] <rian> hello Dizzm
[14:24] <crush_groove> Im getting a random error in amarok "/lib/security/pam_securetty.sorok/" what is this
[14:24] <crush_groove> nm dont answer that .. imma try to find it
[14:25] <Dizzm> im trying to set up a CS: S dedicated server, except for the desktop enviroment (KDE/Gnome) any difference on preformance ??
[14:25] <Dizzm> of ubuntu and kubuntu
[14:25] <rian> besides the desktop they are the same
[14:26] <Dizzm> desktop doesn't make one have better preformance then the other ?
[14:26] <rian> underneath Ubuntu and Kubuntu (and all the other buntus) are exactly the same
[14:26] <frindou> hello room
[14:26] <Dizzm> alight thanks
[14:26] <rian> hello frindou
[14:26] <frindou> how are you rian
[14:27] <rian> anyone know what could be the reason for kubuntu to stall it's network connection?
[14:27] <I3ooI3oo> is there a setting to delay the input of keystrokes.  cause this morning i can't type on my laptop i feel asleep with it on the bed and pressed some keys too much... I know it't a setting since after a reboot p untill login the keyboard function correctly
[14:27] <rian> I'm good, thanks :)
[14:27] <BrianV> Hi all
[14:27] <rian> I3ooI3oo: try looking for 'slow keys' in keyboard settings
[14:27] <BrianV> I am playing with the KDE4-RC2 install
[14:28] <BrianV> however, whenever I try to launch a KDE4 session, it gives me an error about having to setgid, then sends me back to kdm
[14:28] <frindou> any one help me for compiz
[14:28] <I3ooI3oo> If i hold the keys down for 2 sec it types.
[14:28] <rian> no idea BrianV, I'd guess there are actually support rooms for KDE4
[14:29] <I3ooI3oo> I can't find slow keys in keyboard settings
[14:29] <rian> I3ooI3oo: are you using KDE?
[14:29] <I3ooI3oo> yes
[14:29] <BrianV> rian: could you direct me to a kde4 support room?
[14:29] <rian> I3ooI3oo: lookin', I had this problem a while ago
[14:29] <rian> BrianV: I can google it for you :)
[14:29] <BrianV> I can google it myself
[14:29] <BrianV> however, a brief search brought up no hits
[14:30] <rian> I3ooI3oo: I was wrong, it's in regional & accessibility >> keyboard filters
[14:30] <rian> BrianV: hm
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> ok i think i have it
[14:31] <rian> de #kde4-devel, BrianV
[14:31] <rian> de = try
[14:31] <rian> no guarantees.. they might not be into giving support
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> thanks rian I found it while googleing slow keys
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> i knew it had to be something
[14:31] <I3ooI3oo> thanks again
[14:31] <rian> I3ooI3oo: np
[14:32] <BrianV> rian: lol. I was told to leave there and ask here
[14:32] <BrianV> I'll try #kde
[14:32] <rian> BrianV: haha
[14:32] <rian> BrianV: good idea, sorry :)
[14:32] <BrianV> although my issues I think may have something to do with kubuntu
[14:32] <rian> possibly
[14:33] <crush_groove>  I am getting  "/lib/security/pam_securetty.sorok " error from amarok ..what is this ?
[14:33] <crush_groove>  googled it and got nada
[14:34] <rian> crush_groove: is it spelled like that?
[14:34] <rian> crush_groove: it looks like a typoed "pam_security.sock"
[14:34] <ubuntu> HI everybody
[14:35] <rian> hello ubuntu
[14:35] <crush_groove> rian yes
[14:35] <crush_groove>  Ill google other way ?
[14:35] <rian> crush_groove: what's the error say?
[14:35] <crush_groove> exactly that rian
[14:36] <crush_groove>  I cp-ed
[14:36] <crush_groove> wait
[14:36] <rian> nothing else? just that?
[14:36] <crush_groove> yea
[14:36] <crush_groove> 1 sec
[14:36] <rian> :)
[14:37] <crush_groove> the collection scanner was unable to process these files :/lib/security/pam_securetty.sorok/
[14:37] <grul> http://youtube.com/watch?v=RoLV_IkcIQk
[14:38] <I3ooI3oo> that was just a pain in the arse,  try unlocking a PC with slow keys active 10 digit password with upper/lowers/and symbols
[14:39] <rian> I3ooI3oo: I purchased a new keyboard because I thought my keyboard was busted
[14:39] <I3ooI3oo> damn
[14:39] <rian> crush_groove: amarok is indexing your computer and probably didn't have access to that file, I'd uncheck the /lib folder in the preferences for collection scanning
[14:40] <rian> I3ooI3oo: then after hooking it up that one had the same problem.. I hit the keyboard with two hands flat and appearantly pressed shift for about 8 seconds or so and had a 'slow keys setting' window popup
[14:42] <crush_groove> nodz
[14:43] <crush_groove>  is "snort" a good tool for the single user that doesnt have any other boxes ?
[14:44] <JohnFlux> I ran a game that changed my resolution and the game crashed
[14:44] <JohnFlux> so now I'm stuck in 600x480
[14:44] <JohnFlux> how can I change the resolution? :)
[14:44] <rian> JohnFlux: ctr+alt+backspace
[14:44] <rian> beware, you're logging in again
[14:44] <JohnFlux> without killing X :-D
[14:44] <rian> hehe
[14:45] <crush_groove> chuckles
[14:45] <rian> try the settings?
[14:46] <JohnFlux> I was thinking I should be able to do it with xrandr
[14:46] <JohnFlux> but I can't seem to get it to work
[14:46] <JohnFlux> xrandr -s 0    does nothing
[14:46] <rian> my own issue just got even cooler.. I just tried a sdl live cd and then my network connection is fine, but when I boot back into kubuntu it starts stalling and pausing again, hrm
[14:48] <rian> JohnFlux: try using -o instead of -s?
[14:48] <JohnFlux> rian: still nothing hmm
[14:49] <JohnFlux> doing, say, xrandr -s 1280x1024   just does nothing
[14:49] <JohnFlux> i'm stuck in 640x480  strange
[14:50] <rian> LjL is giving people an early christmas it seems, heh
[14:50] <rian> JohnFlux: I'd say you're stuck booting X or the machine as a whole
[14:50] <JohnFlux> yeah i think so too
[14:57] <zvezdichko> how could I shedule a file system check for my next system load?
[14:58] <matflasch> hi
[14:59] <matflasch> i've got a problem: when I want wo manage my package lists in adept, the background color of this dialog is black and the buttons are not labeled or the color is equal to the button color. how could I fix this problem?
[14:59] <rian> zvezdichko: no idea, sorry
[15:00] <rian> matflasch: is this only in adept?
[15:00] <matflasch> I've got this problem in pokerth6 too, this is a sdl app
[15:01] <rian> but other dialogs are fine/
[15:01] <matflasch> yes, rest is very fine
[15:02] <rian> hm, right click the titlebar of adept
[15:02] <rian> maybe check the theme in "configure window behaviour.."
[15:05] <matflasch> I installed last night, the problem was from the beginning, tried to fix it, but no chance... theme is plastik (default)
[15:05] <matflasch> other themes have this problem too
[15:11] <matflasch> this is a screenshot: http://matflasch.sytes.net/sshot.png
[15:12] <matflasch> everything works fine, but the "source dialog" is black
[15:12] <rian> sorry, back.. was someone at the door
[15:12] <matflasch> :)
[15:14] <rian> I have no idea.. it's really weird because the other dialogs do get drawn properly
[15:14] <LjL> Software Sources is Qt4
[15:14] <LjL> so it's different from other dialogs
[15:14] <rian> adept isn't writen in qt4 as a whole?
[15:14] <LjL> no
[15:15] <LjL> adept is a plain KDE application
[15:15] <dansko> hi
[15:15] <dansko> i need help
[15:15] <rian> dansko: whats up?
[15:15] <dansko> when i try to login as root it says verification error, but when i edit system settings in my own account its no problem i use same password
[15:15] <matflasch> could not understand, why only this dialog and the pokerth app are like this
[15:16] <dansko> i dont get it really
[15:16] <rian> LjL: then have him reinstall qt4 maybe?
[15:16] <LjL> rian, doubt that will do anything
[15:16] <rian> does qt4 use themes?
[15:17] <rian> dansko: where and how are you trying to login as root?
[15:17] <LjL> rian, it certainly can, but i think it should just use the default style in a normal Gutsy installation
[15:17] <dansko> i try to login as root
[15:17] <dansko> but it doesnt work
[15:17] <dansko> and when i use su
[15:17] <LjL> perhaps it's something in ~/.qt, but i'm not sure where to look
[15:17] <dansko> it says verification error
[15:17] <LjL> !root > dansko    (dansko, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:18] <dansko> tyvm
[15:18] <rian> is there a qt4 room maybe?
[15:18] <dansko> so there actually is no root?
[15:18] <LjL> dansko: the root account is locked. use sudo, it works fine.
[15:19] <dansko> sudo is the same as root but then only from another account huh? ok i will try that, thanks alot :)
[15:19] <LjL> rian, maybe, but this is certainly an ubuntu specific problem, this is the correct channel really...
[15:19] <robotpoke> what's the command line command to reconfigure postfix?  dpkg-configure ...
[15:19] <robotpoke> something like that?
[15:19] <dansko> i already like kubuntu better than suse now :D
[15:19] <LjL> sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[15:20] <robotpoke> cool, thank LjL
[15:20] <sigma_kubuntu> has anyone gotten the nvidia tv out working with the glx repo drivers here?
[15:20] <LjL> !tv out
[15:20] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[15:20] <emilsedgh> !kde4 -> siavash
[15:20] <sigma_kubuntu> dansko: suse is hopeless!
[15:21] <bazhang> heehee
[15:21] <dansko> lolz, i like it actually but i think kubuntu rox it :D
[15:21] <Jyzygzel-> how do i do a distribution update?
[15:21] <Jyzygzel-> from 7.04 to the newest
[15:21] <jpatrick> !upgrade | Jyzygzel-
[15:21] <ubotu> Jyzygzel-: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:21] <rian> matflasch: I can't find anything on your problem
[15:21] <Jyzygzel-> i read those
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:22] <Jyzygzel-> they were wrong
[15:22] <sigma_kubuntu> LjL: tried that. didnt quite work. how come switching the display in the nvidia control panel doesn't work
[15:22] <Jyzygzel-> "Not all updates can be installed"
[15:22] <rian> Would there be any reason why my kubuntu installation lags/pauses/stalls my network connection?
[15:22] <Jyzygzel-> "Run a partial upgrtade, to install as many updates as possbile"
[15:22] <emilsedgh> !KDE4
[15:22] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[15:22] <matflasch> rian: I'll try to reinstall some things or try a new user to fix it, I'll tell, if I find the problem, thanks =)
[15:22] <rian> thanks matflasch :)
[15:23] <emilsedgh> !KDE4 -> Siavash
[15:23] <LjL> !bot > emilsedgh    (emilsedgh, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:24] <matflasch> see you later ^^
[15:24] <emilsedgh> LjL: I know, thanks :)
[15:24] <Jyzygzel-> looks like the commadnline tool works
[15:24] <LjL> !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[15:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[15:24] <emilsedgh> LjL: i just didnt know its case sensetive
[15:24] <LjL> emilsedgh: it isn't
[15:26] <emilsedgh> LjL: when i asked it to tell about kde4 to siavash, it said that knows nothing about kde4, maybe i did someting wrong, sorry for that :)
[15:26] <LjL> emilsedgh: "->" is not ">"
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, run a sudo apt-get update and watch the speed. Maybe your repos are very busy.
[15:26] <Jyzygzel-> lol is that ur solution
[15:27] <Jyzygzel-> the GUI didn't work but console updrage works
[15:27] <BluesKaj> not a solution , but it could tell when not to upgrade :)
[15:28] <bazhang> Jyzygzel-: yeah, adept is not my favorite either : the cli is so much easier as well
[15:28] <Jyzygzel-> indeed
[15:28] <BluesKaj> I had the same problem here in Canada during the first week that 7.10 was released ,net upgrade failed 3 times
[15:29] <Jyzygzel-> i've upgraded already 2000 packets today
[15:29] <BluesKaj> gave up on adept and did a clean disk install
[15:29] <Jyzygzel-> 1300 more to go
[15:29] <Jyzygzel-> from 6 to the newest ;)
[15:29] <BluesKaj> well, good luck then
[15:30] <Jyzygzel-> but atleast the download is fast
[15:30] <Jyzygzel-> 1MB/s
[15:34] <rian> alright, I'm heading out again, later folks
[15:34] <SatManUK> can you recomend a stock control program for ubuntu there is nothing in package manager afaik
[15:37] <jpatrick> SatManUK: kmymoney2 prehaps?
[15:38] <dreamcoder> is it possible to install .net framwork on kubuntu and then use a program which depends on .net?
[15:38] <dreamcoder> using wine etc
[15:38] <LjL> dreamcoder, there is a free implementation of .NET called Mono
[15:38] <LjL> i don't really know if it can run .NET applications out of the box
[15:38] <LjL> but just FYI
[15:39] <dreamcoder> thanks
[15:41] <SatManUK> i was thinking kmymoney or gnucash
[15:42] <Jyzygzel-> wtf
[15:43] <bazhang> bye rian
[15:43] <Jyzygzel-> the ubuntu upgrade stopped
[15:43] <Jyzygzel-> it said Failed Failed Failed
[15:43] <Jyzygzel-> and now its stuck
[15:44] <Jyzygzel-> the internet stopped wrking :o
[15:45] <I3ooI3oo> the whole internet or just your internet connection
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> internet connection
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> why is this
[15:45] <BluesKaj> SatManUK, do you mean an inventory control app to keep track of stock on shelves and in storage etc ?
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> wwhy would it drop
[15:45] <I3ooI3oo> i would assume different computer then the one you are on
[15:45] <SatManUK> yes
[15:45] <Jyzygzel-> i didnt do anything
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Jyzygzel-, cuz the adept upgrader sucks
[15:46] <SatManUK> i mean initially i don't plan to have that much stock but its good to get something into place now
[15:46] <I3ooI3oo> yum ftw
[15:46] <SatManUK> im putting the business plan together for a new business and i want to include all this into my research
[15:47] <Jyzygzel-> and now i bet when i ctrl -c
[15:47] <BluesKaj> kmymoney is a financial
[15:47] <BluesKaj> It operates similar
[15:47] <BluesKaj> to MS-Money and Quicken,
[15:47] <Jyzygzel-> it removes everything
[15:47] <Jyzygzel-> and starts over
[15:47] <BluesKaj> opps sorry
[15:48]  * genii puts on a new pot of coffee
[15:48] <SatManUK> i have used kmymoney and gnucash
[15:48] <BluesKaj> SatManUK, I've heard od a stock control app used in some large markets called ELVIS , (don't ask what acronym stands for :)
[15:49] <Jyzygzel-> jesus christ its stupid
[15:49] <matflasch> I'm back :)
[15:49] <Jyzygzel-> i had to start it all over again
[15:49] <BluesKaj> but the elvis i see here is just a text editor of some kind
[15:50] <matflasch> I just move my home-dir and created a new one, now I have to reconfigure my apps, but everything works fine now. the error could be in .kde/* or .qt/* or something, couldn't locate it exactly
[15:51] <SatManUK> i found squirrel pos
[15:51] <SatManUK> but its for restraunts
[15:51] <SatManUK> dunno if it could be adapted or not
[15:52] <BluesKaj> SatManUK, the apps on google-linux all cost money
[15:52] <SatManUK> yeah
[15:53] <SatManUK> im looking on sourceforge atm
[15:53] <SatManUK> is it hard to convert a rpm to deb?
[15:53] <SatManUK> maybe i will look on rpm find
[15:54] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[15:54] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:54] <snarkster> good morning all
[15:55] <SatManUK> package alien?
[15:55] <snarkster> brb
[15:55] <SatManUK> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mariposa/
[15:56] <snarkster> so i installed kde4 rc2 live cd the other day and its been kinda an uphill battle. :)
[15:56] <snarkster> but its working and is very pretty.
[15:57] <SatManUK> i couldn't get kdm/kde4 to even load so..
[15:57] <SatManUK> i had to remove it - it broke package management
[15:59] <dreamcoder> so tMono the .net application.. i am just wondering wether i would be able to run a application in wine and make wine use that program
[15:59] <Jyzygzel-> isn't NTFS-3G safe?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> snarkster, congrats , you are one of the few who had a successful kde4 install ...I tried 2wice , kept breaking , stalling , freezing , dumped it :)
[16:01] <snarkster> BluesKaj: I started playing with some setting and my screen went white.. been a fight ever since.
[16:02] <snarkster> with out root access I cant use synaptic.. and since kde4 doent have a user manager im kinda stuck. Im sure I can do it through console but not sure how.
[16:03] <dreamcoder> whats the best version of ubuntu?
[16:04] <genii> !best
[16:04] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[16:04] <dreamcoder> ok thats fair enough
[16:05] <trappist> if that question could be answered objectively, there would only be one version
[16:05] <genii> It's up for debate, 7.10 has many unresolved issues. 7.04 seems stablest at this tiem
[16:05] <BluesKaj> snarkster, can't you login to kde3 ?
[16:05] <genii> Then there are the Hoary diehards
[16:05] <trappist> oh version like release?
[16:05] <snarkster> no Im fully into kde4..
[16:06] <snarkster> of course I understood that Id be in bleeding edge and have issues
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ahh, not a side by side install
[16:06] <salman> http://www.theatremp3.net/Types.php?type=1
[16:07] <SatManUK> this program is only 25k
[16:07] <SatManUK> it can't be finished at that size..
[16:07] <snarkster> BluesKaj: Nope. crazy aint it
[16:08] <crush[A]> 7.10 is workin gr8 for me
[16:08] <crush[A]> not 1 issue .. even with invidea drivers
[16:08] <salman> http://www.theatremp3.net/Types.php?type=1
[16:09] <onishidato> hey guys
[16:09] <onishidato> how can i log in another computer
[16:09] <onishidato> using ssh localhost?
[16:09] <snarkster> ssh -Y user@host
[16:09] <onishidato> is there another way?
[16:10] <onishidato> my friend using window
[16:10] <snarkster> vnc
[16:10] <onishidato> vnc?
[16:10] <snarkster> or tsclient
[16:10] <Jyzygzel-> where can i start samba
[16:10] <jussio1> !vnc
[16:10] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[16:10] <casey_> wait try krdc
[16:10] <TameLion> onishidato use putt
[16:10] <onishidato> !krdc
[16:10] <Jyzygzel-> where can i start samba
[16:11] <snarkster> krdc is great.. needs some tihngs installed
[16:11] <casey_> krdc needs krfb i believe
[16:11] <snarkster> rdesktop
[16:11] <onishidato> ok
[16:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <casey_> ~rdesktop
[16:12] <casey_> !redesktop
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <casey_> !rdesktop
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <jussio1> !info krdc
[16:12] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 976 kB
[16:12] <casey_> go look in the package manager
[16:12] <casey_> its there
[16:12] <jussio1> !botabuse > casey_
[16:13] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: you can start samba from a cli.  sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[16:13] <romunov> has Dolphin got "sort by extention"?
[16:13] <Jyzygzel-> NIIICEEE
[16:13] <crookshanks> !botabuse > crookshanks
[16:14] <Jyzygzel-> the upgrade
[16:14] <Jyzygzel-> it broke my APT
[16:14] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: sudo dpkg --configura -a
[16:15] <Jyzygzel-> sub[t]rnl a shitloads of text
[16:15] <Jyzygzel-> i mean A LOOT
[16:15] <jussio1> !language
[16:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:15] <Jyzygzel-> the kind that says "reinstall"
[16:15] <amber_> hello
[16:15] <sub[t]rnl> !hi | amber_
[16:15] <ubotu> amber_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:16] <Jyzygzel-> http://pastebin.com/m502310a2
[16:16] <Jyzygzel-> try recover from that
[16:16] <Jyzygzel-> hah
[16:16] <salman> Meri dua hai tum naik seerat ho ...... Tera dil teri tarhan khoobsurat ho ......... Mil jaye har cheez tujhay dua say
[16:16] <salman> phele...... khud dua ko tere hathoon ki zaroorat ho ...
[16:16] <amber_> hi what???
[16:16] <salman> amber this is for you
[16:16] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: try sud apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update
[16:17] <sub[t]rnl> sud/sudo
[16:17] <jussi01> salman: please keep it to english in here
[16:17] <Jyzygzel-> oh ok :D
[16:18] <onishidato> salman: what does it mean?
[16:18] <salman> plz tell how can i No such nick\channel
[16:18] <Jyzygzel-> sub[t]rnl now its done
[16:18] <salman> means tell
[16:18] <salman> me
[16:18] <salman> plz
[16:18] <Jyzygzel-> am i now 7.10?
[16:18] <Jyzygzel-> how do i know if i am?
[16:18] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: lsb_release -a
[16:19] <onishidato> version
[16:19] <Jyzygzel-> it says im Ubuntu 7.04 but that should change after reboot?
[16:19] <jpatrick> Jyzygzel-: yep
[16:19] <sub[t]rnl> should have changed now
[16:19] <sub[t]rnl> or is it after reboot?
[16:19] <saame> hi
[16:20] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:20] <sub[t]rnl> Jyzygzel-: just to be sure
[16:20] <Jyzygzel-> ok
[16:22] <Jyzygzel-> sub[t]rnl there is still lot to be done
[16:22] <Jyzygzel-> Need to get 0B/879MB of archives.
[16:22] <ShawnRisk> I am having trouble with GUI, using 7.10, I can't get into the GUI right now.  I have these errors: error: Fatal server error: no screens found.  XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.    Error: Unable to locate/open config file, Error: Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0), Error: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory, 
[16:22] <ShawnRisk> any ideas?
[16:22] <SatManUK> funny you should be talking about .net
[16:22] <SatManUK> i just found something called eCity that runs on .net
[16:23] <sub[t]rnl> ShawnRisk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:23] <sub[t]rnl> ShawnRisk: sounds like you need to generate a working xorg.conf
[16:23] <ShawnRisk> :P
[16:24] <savetheWorld> Hi, for 7.10 is there a tool I can run directly to configure X? (X is not currently working)
[16:24] <I3ooI3oo> when trying to configure a src I am told that c compiler can not create executables
[16:24] <saame> aMeri dua hai tum naik seerat ho ...... Tera dil teri tarhan khoobsurat ho ......... Mil jaye har cheez tujhay dua say
[16:24] <saame> phele...... khud dua ko tere hathoon ki zaroorat ho ...
[16:24] <sub[t]rnl> savetheWorld: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:24] <jussi01> saame: English please.
[16:25] <Dr_willis> I3ooI3oo,  you instaleld the 'build-essential' package yet?
[16:25] <SatManUK> saame which language?
[16:25] <savetheWorld> ShawnRisk: got that ? ^^^^^^^^
[16:25] <ShawnRisk> yep
[16:25] <savetheWorld> ShawnRisk: let me know if it works. :-)
[16:25] <I3ooI3oo> i doubt it
[16:25] <ShawnRisk> okay
[16:26] <I3ooI3oo> looking now
[16:26] <Dr_willis> To reconfiguire X -->  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:26] <Dr_willis> I3ooI3oo,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:27] <crush[A]> -phigh?
[16:27] <crush[A]> wassat?
[16:27] <ShawnRisk> I tried that, and now I get errors still
[16:27] <sub[t]rnl> -phigh generates the high end resolutions, it wont prompt you for the rest of the configuration
[16:27] <I3ooI3oo> thats what i was looking for
[16:27] <crush[A]> ty sub[t]rnl
[16:27] <saame> i don;t know english
[16:27] <jussi01> saame: which language?
[16:28] <I3ooI3oo> Dr_willis installing now thanks couldn't find it when looking through adept-installer
[16:28] <I3ooI3oo> damn it wants the install cd
[16:29] <ShawnRisk> Error: Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0), Error: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory, Warning: VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xc0000000, 0x1000000), Error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable  Ideas?
[16:29] <I3ooI3oo> can i make it dl the files?
[16:29] <saame> this is hindi
[16:29] <jussi01> I3ooI3oo: just remove the cd from your source
[16:29] <I3ooI3oo> ko thanks
[16:30] <msemtd> um, I'm in a bit of a fix trying to upgrade a kubuntu feisty to gutsy - my Xclient was killed and the update seems to be stuck doing something
[16:32] <msemtd> htop reports /usr/bin/python /tmp/kde-root/adept_updatera2WqFa.tmp-extract/dist-upgra...
[16:32] <ShawnRisk> anyone know how to fix the errors I have?
[16:32] <saame> Tum Door Sahi Muj Se
[16:32] <saame> Sapnoo Ma Tu A Jao
[16:32] <saame> Bechain Mere Dil Ko
[16:32] <saame> Pal Bar Behla Jao,
[16:32] <saame> Koi Lamha Nahi Kut Ta
[16:32] <saame> Tujay Sochay Bina Jana
[16:32] <saame> Yadon se Nikal Kar Kabhi
[16:32] <saame> Mere Saamanay A Jao,
[16:32] <saame> Bus Itni Se Khawahish Hai
[16:32] <saame> Nadaan Mere Dil Ki
[16:32] <saame> Phir A Key Chalay Jana
[16:32] <saame> Ek Baar Tu A Jao,
[16:32] <bazhang> oy
[16:32] <saame> Bachaini Si Dharkan Ma
[16:32] <saame> Na Aankhon Ma Neenden Hein
[16:32] <saame> Be Kaif Tabbiyat Ki
[16:32] <saame> Koi Waja Bata Jao.
[16:32] <saame> Jan 16
[16:32] <saame> ASSALAM.O.ALIKUM
[16:32] <saame> H r u?
[16:32] <amed> hola
[16:32] <saame> ALLAH THE MAKER
[16:32] <saame> Everything that we see around us,
[16:32] <saame> Allah made it for us.
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the sky and the land,
[16:32] <amed> como estan amigos
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the sea and the sand.
[16:32] <I3ooI3oo> bye bye
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the plants and the trees,
[16:32] <saame> Allah made the birds and the bees.
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the hills and the rivers,
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the beautiful flowers.
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the sun to give us heat and light,
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the moon to brighten the sky at night.
[16:33] <ShawnRisk> spammer
[16:33] <saame> Allah made the twinkling stars,
[16:33] <saame> Allah made us as we are.
[16:33] <saame> Allah bless u and your family
[16:33] <saame> ALLAH HAFIZ
[16:33] <amed> oigan tengo un problema alguien me puede ayudar?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> how come he made an idiot like you ?
[16:33] <bazhang> !es
[16:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:33] <ShawnRisk> :P
[16:33] <msemtd> This Allah bloke is pretty cool - can he fix my system :)
[16:33] <bazhang> stop saame
[16:33] <SatManUK> !ar
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <jembouge> hey there
[16:33] <amed> como entro a esos canales
[16:33] <SatManUK> !pk
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <jembouge> !es
[16:33] <SatManUK> !ur
[16:33] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[16:34] <saame> Tum Door Sahi Muj Se
[16:34] <saame> Sapnoo Ma Tu A Jao
[16:34] <saame> Bechain Mere Dil Ko
[16:34] <saame> Pal Bar Behla Jao,
[16:34] <saame> Koi Lamha Nahi Kut Ta
[16:34] <saame> Tujay Sochay Bina Jana
[16:34] <saame> Yadon se Nikal Kar Kabhi
[16:34] <saame> Mere Saamanay A Jao,
[16:34] <SatManUK> !ru
[16:34] <bazhang> amed: click on the link
[16:34] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[16:34] <saame> Bus Itni Se Khawahish Hai
[16:34] <ShawnRisk> stop
[16:34] <ShawnRisk> stop
[16:34] <saame> Nadaan Mere Dil Ki
[16:34] <ShawnRisk> stop
[16:34] <saame> Phir A Key Chalay Jana
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !ops
[16:34] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[16:34] <yamal> !ops
[16:34] <saame> Ek Baar Tu A Jao,
[16:34] <saame> Bachaini Si Dharkan Ma
[16:34] <saame> Na Aankhon Ma Neenden Hein
[16:34]  * yamal watches saizai leave
[16:34] <ShawnRisk> Error: Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0), Error: open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory, Warning: VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xc0000000, 0x1000000), Error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable  Ideas?
[16:34] <SatManUK> ljl thanks :)
[16:34] <jembouge> isn't this channel supposed to be all English?
[16:35] <SatManUK> it is..
[16:35] <bazhang> yes
[16:35] <jembouge> not according to what I saw when I logged in
[16:35] <jembouge> anyway
[16:35]  * BluesKaj shakes his head ...as if we can understand hindi in here 
[16:35] <jembouge> nice to "sse" you :)
[16:35] <ShawnRisk> any ideas?
[16:35] <SatManUK> hindi isn't islam..
[16:36] <SatManUK> hindi would be
[16:36] <SatManUK> erm..
[16:36] <SatManUK> i forgot..
[16:36] <jembouge> from India
[16:36] <jembouge> ?
[16:36] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: the type1 module is font rendering I think
[16:36] <jembouge> any way
[16:36] <amed> tks
[16:36] <I3ooI3oo> there are many indian islamics
[16:36] <BluesKaj> yes SatManUK he said it was hindi
[16:36] <LjL> !ot
[16:36] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:36] <ShawnRisk> msemtd: what do I do to fix this?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> heh
[16:37] <SatManUK> ah
[16:37] <amed> what's up?
[16:37] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: uh, no idea - it seems to be saying that the AIGLX driver can't do direcct rendering of fonts
[16:38] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: perhaps there's some ATI users who've seen the samething
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> weird
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ShawnRisk, did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[16:38] <msemtd> does your X work at all?
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> maybe I have to work in CLI which I like, but would like GUI sometimes
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> I tried
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> It did with 7.07 in recovery mode
[16:38] <ShawnRisk> now in 7.10 not at all
[16:38] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: drop back to an SVGA driver in the meantime
[16:39] <waylandbill> anyone using the fish protocol know if there is a way to increase the timeout before disconnecting from the server?
[16:39] <snarkster> fish protocol?
[16:39] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: might be ok with SVGA - no accelleration but should function unless your ATI card has duff onboard memory
[16:39] <amed> somebody help me
[16:40] <ShawnRisk> there is no SVGA selection
[16:40] <waylandbill> snarkster: fish://  (for secure shell connections)
[16:40] <snarkster> oh
[16:40] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: is that when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[16:40] <ShawnRisk> yep
[16:40] <amed> in spanish i don't have help
[16:41] <backpro> when my kubuntu start kde start automatic i install xfce how to rub it >?
[16:41] <backpro> when my kubuntu start kde start automatic i install xfce how to run it >?
[16:41] <waylandbill> snarkster: I guess you'd call it an ioslave if we wanted to get that technical. :)
[16:41] <msemtd> ShawnRisk: that's the limit of my knowledge! any other driver that looks suitable?
[16:41] <ShawnRisk> nope
[16:41] <ShawnRisk> I need to fix the errors first
[16:41] <snarkster> lets not get to technical..
[16:41] <lg188> HI
[16:41] <amed> hi
[16:41] <snarkster> some of us havent had our coffee. :)
[16:41] <ShawnRisk> I will figure out something
[16:41] <pastulio> how do i disable my kde wallpaper so that it never even loads up at startup? i need to do this so that my compiz wallpaper shows, which is behind the kde wallpaper. someone please help
[16:42] <ShawnRisk> I have more details
[16:42] <ShawnRisk> thanks
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> help
[16:42] <amed> in spanish
[16:42] <waylandbill> !es
[16:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:42] <amed> no hay nadie ahi
[16:43] <backpro> when i start ubuntu X started automatic how to stop it and start console ?????????
[16:43] <amed> ubotu no hay nadie en esse canal o no responden
[16:43] <crush[A]> pastulio,  maybe panel/settings/background/none
[16:43] <pastulio> ive tried that, it only makes my background black
[16:43] <pastulio> but my compiz wallpaper is still behind it
[16:43] <crush[A]>  nodz
[16:43] <msemtd> backpro: log into a vt with Ctrl-alt-f1 for example then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[16:43] <waylandbill> backpro: /etc/init.d/gdm or /etc/init.d/kdm  ... stop the one on your system and you'll only have the console.
[16:44] <amed> i need help
[16:44] <crush[A]>   pastulio /join #compiz_fusion
[16:44] <crush[A]> very good there
[16:44] <trappist> backpro: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove if you want to stop X from starting at boot
[16:44] <amed> hi somebody
[16:44] <SatManUK> !hi
[16:44] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:44] <amber_> hi everyone who like linux
[16:44] <crush[A]>  trappist  is kdm remove part of that line ?
[16:44] <snarkster> at boot up hit enter to get menu and edit the start by changing the 5 to a 3
[16:44] <SatManUK> !anybody
[16:44] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:44] <trappist> crush[A]: yes
[16:45] <crush[A]> ty btrappist
[16:45] <snarkster> is there away to set root password in a console
[16:45] <snarkster> sudo will not let you do that
[16:45] <trappist> snarkster: yes but it's not recommended
[16:45] <msemtd> re-query: I'm in a bit of a fix trying to upgrade a kubuntu feisty to gutsy - my Xclient was killed and the update seems to be stuck doing something
[16:45] <amber_> root passwords r root
[16:46] <trappist> snarkster: ubuntu ships without a root password for a reason
[16:46] <waylandbill> or modify the /boot/grub/menu.lst entry from 5 to 3 to boot to runlevel 3 by default.
[16:46] <bazhang> amed you need help in spanish?
[16:46] <snarkster> trappist: Thanx, but synaptic is requesting root password
[16:46] <crush[A]> waylandbill,  whats runlevel 3 ? no background ?
[16:46] <trappist> snarkster: how are you running it?  you should be giving it your user password
[16:46] <msemtd> bazhang: amed has left
[16:46] <waylandbill> console only
[16:46] <crush[A]> ty
[16:47] <waylandbill> snarkster: synaptic is probably asking for the sudo password.
[16:47] <snarkster> trappist: by clicking the synaptic icon in the new kde4 menu
[16:47] <bazhang> msemtd: thanks--I have joins and leaves blocked :}
[16:47] <amber_> boungour
[16:47] <ibilic> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.g
[16:47] <ibilic> what does this mean?
[16:47] <trappist> snarkster: oh, I've heard that the kde4 packages have an issue with root/sudo like that.
[16:47] <crush[A]> snarkster,  kde 4 is still unstable ?
[16:47] <trappist> ibilic: bad package in the repo, probably
[16:47] <waylandbill> snarkster: if you must know though... sudo passwd  will assign a root password.
[16:48] <trappist> crush[A]: it's not even released yet!
[16:48] <amber_> hello9
[16:48] <crush[A]> trappist,  snarkster,  has it ..
[16:48] <WaltzingAlong> the sudo password?
[16:48] <ibilic> trappist: I just wanted to install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:48] <WaltzingAlong> waylandbill: ?
[16:48] <amber_> sudo
[16:48] <trappist> crush[A]: it's available, just not released.  it's basically unstable by definition.
[16:49] <msemtd> anyone know the right way to fix a dist-upgrade that's hung?
[16:49] <snarkster> hmm runs fine on my laptop
[16:49] <ibilic> how do I reinstall a package?
[16:49] <snarkster> but understand things will be changing
[16:49] <waylandbill> WaltzingAlong: the user password to give to sudo. I mean not the root password.
[16:49] <trappist> msemtd: hung how?
[16:49] <WaltzingAlong> msemtd: yes. konsole. sudo aptitude -f install; sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[16:49] <trappist> ibilic: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[16:50] <snarkster> nice
[16:50] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[16:50] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | msemtd
[16:50] <ubotu> msemtd: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:50] <snarkster> ive been trying to get ndiswrapper on this thing since I installed kde4 rc2
[16:51] <crush[A]> what is that snarkster  ?
[16:51] <snarkster> ndiswrapper allows you to use windows NIC drivers for hardware without linux support
[16:52] <crush[A]>   why is that important snarkster  if you have a connection ?
[16:52] <snarkster> im on a wire right now.. I want wifi
[16:52] <abdulla> check out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33
[16:52] <crush[A]>  << sits and reads to learn so my questions are random ..
[16:53] <crush[A]>  ahh gotcha
[16:54] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: hmm, it seems that each time I kill one of the processes locking the database, another takes its place. Maybe that's kicked off the upgrade again
[16:55] <ibilic> what does it mean when it says in Adept manager under Requested in red letters: "BREAK (install)"?
[16:55] <WaltzingAlong> msemtd: is there still the python script running? if so, then yes it would be doing exactly as you describe
[16:55] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: means that something would be installed but a prereq does not exist for it
[16:56] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: yup - it's using 0% cpu so I guess the front-end death hung its IO
[16:56] <bsander> ibilic: it means that some dependencies for the install can't be met. You'll risk "breaking" your system if you continue to perform the installation
[16:56] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: shall kill the python!
[16:56] <bsander> that's worst case, but still.. you'll at least break one or more apps
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: breaking may be a bit of a stretch - depending on the package - more or less that the package will be installed but it or others may not work as expected
[16:57] <waylandbill> ibilic: as WaltzingAlong said..  and most likely an unsupported repository is causing it.
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> if at all
[16:58] <ibilic> i am just trying to install swf-player after the installation of flashplugin-nonfree failed
[16:58] <Voyage_>  the icon of firestarter turns red when an unauthorised access try is made and if it is visible in the tray always. i can observe that.      and any way. why does it disappears. how can i make sure it doest ?
[16:59] <ibilic> would it be a good idea for me to reconfigure my packages using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"?
[16:59] <Dr_willis> ibilic,  that may ask a lot of questions.. but shouldent hurt anything.
[16:59] <Dr_willis> Unles of course you answer wrong. :)
[16:59] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: but still will not take care of the 'broken' you see in adept
[16:59] <ibilic> i've done it yesterday when Adept crashed
[16:59] <ibilic> right
[16:59] <ibilic> so how do I get rid of the broken thing?
[17:00] <ibilic> how do I at least diagnose the problem?
[17:00] <Dr_willis> whats broken?
[17:00] <ibilic> it shows up when I try to install swf-player
[17:00]  * Dr_willis scrolls up.. Wishes there were irc clients that could color code base on who said what. :)
[17:01] <BluesKaj> I was more successful whn went from dapper to edgy by changing the repos to edgy sources then doing the: apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:01] <Dr_willis> Flash has had issues for the l;ast few days due to some issue.. Not sure what the deal is. I thought it had been fixed by now.
[17:01] <bazhang> adobe has a new version out iirc
[17:01] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: nothing, ibilic just asked what adept meant with big read broken
[17:02] <Dr_willis> bazhang,  yea. and somehting with the md5sum got messed up. I dident pay much attention to it all. :)
[17:02] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a    - can take a lot of time. :()
[17:02] <SatManUK> !cab
[17:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:02] <SatManUK> how to extract .cab files?
[17:03] <Dr_willis> !find cab
[17:03] <ubotu> Found: cabber, cabextract, cableswig, ghc6, ghc6-doc (and 18 others)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> thers a tool called cabextract
[17:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> !info  cabextract
[17:03] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[17:04] <ibilic> doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a :(
[17:04] <TuX_Claudiu> ro
[17:04] <Dr_willis> I do recall some of the pages at the !apt factoid having some common problem/fix's for when your packaing system gets confused
[17:04] <Dr_willis> !apt
[17:04] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[17:04] <msemtd> !aptfix
[17:04] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:05] <snarkster> how is someone to know thats what you do to fix apt when it breaks?
[17:06] <snarkster> going for a smoke
[17:06] <BluesKaj> snarkster, see above
[17:06] <msemtd> snarkster: no idea! mibbee we just gotta trust the bot!
[17:06] <snarkster> well yah, but new people will not know what to do..
[17:06] <BluesKaj> msemtd, read the !aptfix above
[17:06] <ibilic> incidentally, when I try to trash something, my trash button has "_: Verb" at the beginning... it's annoying... anyone else?
[17:07] <Dr_willis> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:07] <Dr_willis> fix's a lot of the probklems
[17:07] <SatManUK> thanks for that cabextract worked like a charm Dr_willis
[17:08] <ubuntu_> can any one help me?
[17:08] <unperson> Hi, has anyone here used Mathematica on Kubuntu Gusty?  I'm having some weird display problem where the window becomes garbled if I scroll.  Anyone had this?
[17:08] <jussi01> !ask | ubuntu_
[17:08] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:09] <dobo> how do i type special characters using their unicode values? ALT+ doesn't work for me :(
[17:09] <ubuntu_> when you boot my computer and select linux it says cannot mount selected partition
[17:09] <ubuntu_> how can i fix that problem
[17:10] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  this is on a new install?
[17:10] <ubuntu_> yes its new
[17:10] <ubuntu_> and when i select windows it run but linux doesnt
[17:10] <ubuntu_> it says cannot mount selected partition
[17:11] <Dr_willis> SO you get the grub menu, select linux. it boots a little bit then says that eh?
[17:11] <SatManUK> night all
[17:11] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:11] <ubuntu_> correct
[17:11] <bazhang> night satmanuk
[17:11] <ubuntu_> error comes up cannot mount selected partition
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Sounds like the installer may of gotten confused. what partition is it not being able to mount?
[17:11] <bazhang> error number ubuntu?
[17:12] <unperson> I suspect this problem may be related to the problem with the X Composite Extension, as mentioned here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mathematica#head-f257f6630497b04601075cc9a92b88a26e60e21b
[17:12] <ubuntu_> 27 erorr
[17:12] <Voyage_> is there a way to make sure that a specific app is running all the time. and making it run when its not running in the sys tray?
[17:12] <unperson> But the work around they mentioned (which has worked for me in the past on other Ubuntu systems) doesn't seem to be working here.
[17:12] <unperson> I'm actually running mathematica on a remote machine in this case, though, and forwarding if over ssh.
[17:13] <ubuntu_> so what should i actually do?
[17:13] <unperson> Voyage_: Can you clarify the second part?
[17:14] <bazhang> grub error ubuntu
[17:14] <Voyage_> unperson i want it to be keep runing in sys tray.
[17:14] <bazhang> firestarter Voyage_?
[17:14] <ubuntu_> so theres no way of fixing it in the command box
[17:14] <ubuntu_> i would just have to reinstall linux again?
[17:14] <Voyage_> bazhang - check this. its a bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firestarter/+bug/174249
[17:15] <Voyage_> bazhang yes
[17:15] <unperson> Well, if no one has any idea about that specific error, can anyone tell me the correct way to turn off the composite extention?
[17:15] <msemtd> ok, the !aptfix info hasn't fixed things - I have thousands of packages held back
[17:16] <WaltzingAlong> msemtd: after aptfix, sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade in konsole
[17:16] <snarkster> ubuntu you get error 27 when trying to mount a partition?
[17:16] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:16] <ubuntu_> error 27
[17:16] <ubuntu_> it says annot mount selected partition
[17:16] <snarkster> ubuntu have you tried to repair the partition?
[17:16] <ubuntu_> but i see windows and linux on the slection menu to run which operating system
[17:17] <unperson> Voyage_: Well, if you just want something to restart if it crashes, you could just have a cron job that checks periodically to see if it's running and, if not, restarts it.
[17:17] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu_: so what changed that you now see this?
[17:17] <snarkster> ubuntu fsck -y /dev<partitons name>
[17:17] <ubuntu_> were do i type that
[17:17] <ubuntu_> command box?
[17:17] <Voyage_> unperson yes. how to do it
[17:17] <unperson> Voyage_: Actually, assuming the process actually exits, you could presumably start it with a script that basically restarts the process any time it exits (i.e. in a never-ending loop).
[17:18] <snarkster> ubuntu there are different words for different things, in linux we have konsole, or terminals not command box
[17:18] <Voyage_> unperson yes. how to do it?
[17:18] <Jyzygzel-> hey where was the ATI help for ubuntu?
[17:18] <Jyzygzel-> how to install ATI card
[17:18] <bazhang> for firestarter, it's a waste of cycles--it's just a front end for iptables
[17:18] <msemtd> WaltzingAlong: uuh! fingers crossed some grief with lvm2 but I don't use it AFAIK
[17:18] <ubuntu_> okay so how do i know what partition name do i have?
[17:19] <snarkster> ubuntu_:  if you can get to a konsole or command line interface then yes. being that the partition isnt mounted youll have no issues
[17:19] <unperson> Voyage_: Well, the shell script is probably the more elegent option.
[17:19] <ubuntu_> can u tell me what to type cause its my first time
[17:19] <crush[A]>  so firestrater IS NOT an acceptable replacement for IPtables ?
[17:19] <snarkster> ubuntu_: to find the right partition use fdisk -l that will list all your partitions
[17:19] <unperson> Voyage_: My shell scripting is a little rusty.  Give me a minute.
[17:19] <ubuntu_> okay
[17:19] <ubuntu_> i see a list
[17:19] <unperson> (Or someone else is welcome to give it a shot)
[17:19] <ubuntu_> now?
[17:19] <bazhang> crush[A]: just a way to access iptables, not a replacement
[17:20] <Voyage_> k
[17:20] <bazhang> unperson: this is for firestarter; Voyage_ has it confused with norton/symantec/pc-cillin etc
[17:20] <snarkster> ubuntu_:  since Im assumin you are dual booting with windblows choose the ext3 partiton which should be somehting like sda<#> which partitons is ext3
[17:21] <ubuntu_> Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
[17:21] <ubuntu_> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[17:21] <ubuntu_>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[17:21] <ubuntu_>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[17:21] <ubuntu_>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[17:21] <Voyage_> bazhang its a bug....................
[17:21] <ubuntu_> thats what i see
[17:21] <ubuntu_> when i type f disk
[17:21] <Voyage_> bazhang and even its not. it should stay in systray. even if iptables is running.
[17:22] <snarkster> ubuntu_ you should type fdisk -l thats an L not a 1
[17:22] <snarkster> ubuntu_:  in kubuntus case the command will be sudo fdisk-l
[17:22] <bazhang> perhaps Voyage_, but makes no difference what so ever
[17:23] <snarkster> copy that and paste it in the command line interface
[17:23] <snarkster> use shift insert to paste in the CLI
[17:23] <t1n0m3n> I think I am having a config tug of war issue between "nvidia-settings" and the default KDE application.  I am running dual monitors.  Primary is 1440x900.  Secondary is 1680x1050.  I am running two x-servers.  When I am at KDM the resolution is fine.  When I log in, my secondary monitor goes to 640x480.  I have to reset the resolution to 1680x1050 with "nvidia-settings" to get the resolution correct.  Any idea on where to look would be appreciated.  I a
[17:23] <t1n0m3n> X2500M
[17:23] <ubuntu_> sudo fdisk-l
[17:23] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk-l
[17:23] <ubuntu_> sudo: fdisk-l: command not found
[17:23] <snarkster> right
[17:23] <ubuntu_> it says not found
[17:23] <snarkster> hmm interesting
[17:24] <ubuntu_> so its not installed that means?
[17:24] <ubuntu_> or its messed up installation
[17:24] <bazhang> shouldn't there be a space, fdisk -l ?
[17:24] <snarkster> do you have internet plugged into this computer?
[17:24] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:24] <ubuntu_> thats how im on the convo right now
[17:24] <annam> Kaffeine: How to hide information (time) in the left upper corner in player window during playback?
[17:25] <snarkster> right should be a space between fdisk and the -l
[17:25] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk-l
[17:25] <ubuntu_> sudo: fdisk-l: command not found
[17:25] <ubuntu_> sudo: fdisk -l like that?
[17:25] <bazhang> ubuntu_:  that is fdisk -l  not fdisk-l
[17:25] <t1n0m3n> !pastebin
[17:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:26] <snarkster> !fdisk -l
[17:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk -l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:26] <bazhang> annam: in full screen mode?
[17:26] <annam> bazhang: both modes
[17:26] <ubuntu_> okay
[17:26] <ubuntu_> i see it
[17:26] <ubuntu_> now
[17:27] <ubuntu_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[17:27] <t1n0m3n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48235/
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda1   *           1        4855    38997756    7  HPFS/NTFS
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda2            4856       12613    62316135    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda3           12614       14592    15896286    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda5           12426       12613     1510078+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda6            4856       12237    59295852   83  Linux
[17:27] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda7           12238       12425     1510047   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[17:27] <bazhang> annam: not sure about both, but in full screen just put the mouse away from the edges (like in the center) and it will disappear
[17:27] <bazhang> !paste | ubuntu_
[17:27] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:28] <ubuntu_> !paste
[17:28] <snarkster> ok now that you see the list of partitions.. sudo fsck -y <the linux partition>
[17:29] <snarkster> but it appears that its mounted if your using linux to talk in here.
[17:29] <annam> bazhang: mouse disappeared; time still shown
[17:29] <ubuntu_> well
[17:29] <ubuntu_> i booted linux with cd
[17:30] <bazhang> annam: configure kaffeine lends no clue?
[17:30] <ubuntu_> inorder to use it now
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: Ok, I don't know what your original issue was.  I also don't know how to make an app show up in the dock, but it may be able to be accomplished via a command-line argument.  But if you want to start a process and ensure that it restarts any time it exits, you can use the following, exceedingly simple script:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48238/
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: And now I actually have to run.
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: If you do use that script, then the only way to actually quit the app will be to kill the script.
[17:30] <ubuntu_> snarkster: it says
[17:30] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -y/dev/hda6
[17:30] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:30] <unperson> Voyage_: Hope that helps.  Later.
[17:31] <Voyage_> thanks!
[17:31] <snarkster> right think of fsck as scandisk for windows
[17:31] <annam> bazhang: no
[17:32] <bazhang> annam:  ask in #kaffeine
[17:33] <annam> bazhang: thanks for your help seeya
[17:33] <bazhang> bye annam
[17:34] <crush[A]>  youtube keeps crashing on me in konquerer do we have a pastebin ?
[17:35] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | crush[A]
[17:35] <ubotu> crush[A]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:35] <ubuntu_> a man my computer turned off over heated :S
[17:35] <Jyzygzel-> what THE ....
[17:35] <ubuntu_> so i had to boot from the cd again
[17:35] <Jyzygzel-> oh sudo
[17:36] <crush[A]> never used a patebin .. whats my syntax ..?
[17:36] <crush[A]>  paste
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> crush[A]: don't worry about the syntax
[17:36] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[17:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:36] <Dr_willis> :) just cut/paste and go for it!
[17:36] <Dr_willis> I need to find a pastebin script to make getting stuff easier
[17:37] <snarkster> pastebin is a website that you paste large quantities of data in then yu paste the website and article nukber here so we can all go look at it.
[17:37] <Dr_willis> somebigcommand | pastebin
[17:37] <Dr_willis> would be handy
[17:37] <crush[A]> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48240/ << paste on backtrace for youtube crash
[17:37] <Dr_willis> of course if its flash crashing.. well theres not a lot we can do about it.
 im sorry can we continue
[17:38] <snarkster> yah sure i guess..
[17:38] <BluesKaj> crush[A],  you can try installing flashplugin-nonfree, then open konq /configure konq/ plugins/scan for new plugins
[17:38] <snarkster> where did we stop
[17:39] <ubuntu_> well im so sorry i had to open konsole
[17:39] <ubuntu_> again
[17:39] <ubuntu_> and i typed in fdisk -l
[17:39] <crush[A]> BluesKaj,  I did that .,., from medibuntu
[17:39] <crush[A]>  wait
[17:39] <crush[A]> where is kong ?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> konqueror
[17:39] <crush[A]> ack
[17:40] <bazhang> crush[A]: konqueror has issues with flash at times--firefox is much better atm
[17:41] <BluesKaj> bazhang, dunno why ,perhaps my flashplugin-nonfree is the older version that works
[17:41] <bazhang> BluesKaj: that might be it :}
[17:41] <snarkster> ubuntu_: so then run fsck -y partition> "without the brackets"
[17:42] <ubuntu_> how do i get the partition listings again
[17:42] <ubuntu_> sudo fdisk -l
[17:42] <snarkster> yes
[17:42] <bazhang> yes
[17:43] <crush[A]> bazhang .. is that just in 7.10 ?
[17:43] <snarkster> cd /home
[17:43] <crush[A]>  was workin in 7.04
[17:44] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fsck -y/dev/hda6
[17:44] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:44] <bazhang> crush[A]: I think it may be the recent trouble with flash for everyone
[17:44] <BluesKaj> well, BBL..gotta push some snow ...cool but beauty day here today...fresh air is on the menu   : )
[17:44] <ubuntu_> i says that now
[17:44] <crush[A]> nodz ./. ty bazhang .. I think I heard that sumwhere else too
[17:44] <crush[A]> completely 4got about it and upgraded my flash
[17:44] <crush[A]>  doH
[17:44] <crush[A]>  be well BluesKaj  ty
[17:45] <bazhang> crush[A]: just a guess, so take with a huge grain of salt :}
[17:45] <snarkster> ubuntu_ need spaces between the command and the partition
[17:45] <crush[A]>  how do I tell version of flash Im running ?
[17:45] <Jyzygzel-> how do i mount NTFS in Read Only?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> You can use the ntfs filesystem instead of ntfs-3g and it should default to read only
[17:46] <snarkster> Jyzygzel-:  mount -t ntfs-3g -o r
[17:46] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:46] <ubuntu_> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:46] <ubuntu_> fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/hda6
[17:46] <ubuntu_> You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[17:46] <ubuntu_> it says that now?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you must be root/use sudo to do system wide things.
[17:46] <ubuntu_> wachu mean?
[17:46] <Jyzygzel-> snarkster and where does the source and destination come?
[17:46] <ubuntu_> use the linix swap drive?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> sudo SYSTEMTYPECOMMANDS
[17:47] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[17:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[17:47] <ubuntu_> so okya in this case what would i type?
[17:48] <snarkster> Jyzygzel-: mount -t ntfs /dev/windows partition /mnt/windows
[17:48] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: prefix your command with 'sudo '
[17:48] <ubuntu_> wat do you mean prefix?
[17:49] <ubuntu_> type in sudo?
[17:49] <crush[A]> prefix = start with
[17:49] <waylandbill> I mean sudo do and then the command you want to run as root. I guess I meant prepend rather than prefix.
[17:50] <waylandbill> s/sudo do/sudo/
[17:51] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -y /dev/hda6
[17:51] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:51] <ubuntu_> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[17:51] <ubuntu_> /dev/hda6: clean, 90811/7421952 files, 756492/14823963 blocks
[17:51] <snarkster> trying to get mp3 support for amarok and its not going
[17:51] <ubuntu_> it says that now
[17:52] <snarkster> ima go smoke again
[17:52] <Dr_willis> looks like it finished.
[17:52] <bazhang> snarkster: kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:52] <ubuntu_> so what should i do now?
[17:53] <snarkster> installing it now
[17:53] <Dr_willis> No idea what you were trying to do.. you just checked the filesystem... it says its ok.
[17:53] <ubuntu_> well im tryin to get linux to work
[17:53] <ubuntu_> cause wheni boot it without cd it says cannot mount selected partition
[17:55] <Dr_willis> whates the exact error message perhaps? and when is it saying this? it could be your /etc/fstab is  incorrect. - If this is a clean install. It may be easier to just try reinstalling.
[17:55] <jim__> What is the package name for openGL header files. Does this depend on my video card?
[17:56] <ubuntu_> so your basicly saying
[17:56] <ubuntu_> reinstall linux?
[17:56] <ubuntu_> and how do i format the drives to make sure nothing happens (erorr)
[17:56] <ubuntu_> left click un parition?
[17:57] <Dr_willis> The installer should ask. or use the gparted tool to just delete the existing linux partitions, leaving part of the drive 'unallocated' the installer will ask to use that part of the drive
[17:58] <Dr_willis> its proberly possible to trouble shoot your problem. But theres so many things that could be incorrect it may take a lot of time.
[17:58] <ubuntu_> okay ll just reinstall
[17:58] <ubuntu_> hopefully it works
[17:58] <ubuntu_> cause yesterday i did it i had a grub problem
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Its possible your hard drive layout is confusing the installer also.
[17:58] <ubuntu_> it was a headache and i dont even remember how i fixed it
[17:58] <Kingzar> Niceeeee
[17:58] <Dr_willis> Grub can be a bit over whelming at first.
[17:59] <ubuntu_> ye i was soo lost
[17:59] <Dr_willis> so many new concepts - and things to learn
[17:59] <ubuntu_> what a grub was
[17:59] <ubuntu_> and how it all worked
[17:59] <ubuntu_> i didnt even know what a grub was
[17:59] <ubuntu_> i had to google it
[17:59] <Dr_willis> The grub homepage has very well done docs. :) and is worth reading some time.
[17:59] <ubuntu_> alright i gues i shall reinstall
[17:59] <ubuntu_> thanks for your help
[17:59] <ubuntu_> ill be back though
[18:02] <snarkster>  upon installing sun java 6 will java stuf work in firefox or do i need to install jre1.4?
[18:02] <Dr_willis> it should work snarkster
[18:02] <bazhang> from the extras snarkster?
[18:02] <snarkster> yep
[18:02] <bazhang> should do
[18:03] <snarkster> wow this kde4 is pretty cool
[18:03] <bazhang> snarkster: be sure to get the medibuntu.org packages libdvdcss2 and win32codecs as well
[18:03] <snarkster> does kubuntu offer mach64 chipset drivers?
[18:04] <snarkster> what is the url to the medibuntu.org repository
[18:05] <bazhang> www.medibuntu.org :}
[18:05] <bazhang> snarkster: you can just grab the two packages
[18:05] <bazhang> no need to enable repos, unless you want acroread, google earth etc
[18:06] <Kingzar> My kopete doesnt allow me to send messages on MSn
[18:06] <jim__> What is the package name for openGL header files. Does this depend on my video card?
[18:06] <crush[A]> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:06] <crush[A]> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[18:07] <crush[A]>  will add to repos
[18:07] <jim__> I tried xorg-x11-devel but this doesn't work
[18:08] <Wanderer> Anyone have the url of the 'how to co-install kde4' ?
[18:13] <snarkster> crush[A] thank you
[18:13]  * msemtd thanks the channel
[18:13] <crush[A]> ye snarkster
[18:13] <bazhang> heh
[18:13] <Dr_willis> !find opengl
[18:13] <ubotu> Found: cl-sdl-opengl, gambas2-gb-opengl, gambas2-gb-qt-opengl, libghc6-opengl-dev, libghc6-opengl-doc (and 9 others)
[18:14] <Dr_willis> jim__,  search the package manager for anything with opengl and -dev at the end. :)
[18:14] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[18:14] <Dr_willis> !find opengl-dev
[18:14] <ubotu> Found: libghc6-opengl-dev
[18:14] <Dr_willis> Hmm. wonder if thats it.
[18:14] <snarkster> that bot is awesome
[18:14] <Dr_willis> !info libghc6-opengl-dev
[18:14] <ubotu> libghc6-opengl-dev: Haskell OpenGL binding for GHC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1988 kB, installed size 17752 kB
[18:15] <Dr_willis> IS the stuff even called opengl any more?
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Yep the bot is handy.
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Hay Minataku
[18:15] <crush[A]> unfortunately not alot know how to use it effectively
[18:15]  * snarkster had no idea
[18:15] <Kingzar> is there in compiz fusion an option to send a window to another Virtual desktop?
[18:15] <Kingzar> a shortcut?
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> how does something exceed simple?
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> Wanderer: topic? /topic
[18:16] <Dr_willis> Kingzar,  check the cssm tool theres so many settings/keybindings in there.. its scary
[18:16] <crush[A]> Kingzar,  #compiz-fusion will help ya tons
[18:16] <Kingzar> toooo much
[18:17] <crush[A]> thats all them guys and gals do
[18:19] <Wanderer> WaltzingAlong: thanks, it had run off the side
[18:21] <snarkster> now im installing the kdenetwork manager for kde4.. lets hope this doesnt kill my computer
[18:22] <Manyfold> is kde4 fully functional?
[18:23] <snarkster> no not really.
[18:23] <snarkster> as this next post by me will show
[18:23] <snarkster> http://pastebin.ca/816218
[18:24] <jim__> Dr Willis __ Thanks I'll try that package.
[18:24] <snarkster> how do i get around that issue?
[18:25] <snarkster> do i uninstall kget
[18:25] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove kget
[18:26] <crush[A]> snarkster arent you usin kde4?
[18:26] <snarkster> yes I am
[18:26] <crush[A]> why would you be removing stuff on an unstable distro ?
[18:26] <Dr_willis> why would one be using an unstable disrto. :)
[18:26] <snarkster> cause Im trying to install kdenetwork manager
[18:27] <crush[A]> nodz at Dr_willis
[18:27] <Dr_willis> well..  i guess people still use windows.. so thats old-habbits. :)
[18:27] <snarkster> eh Im bored and i want to see how stable it really is
[18:27] <Dr_willis> I test out kde4 with live cd's - much safer
[18:27] <Kingzar> ANyone know hoow to make a screenshot in kubuntu? While using cube or shift switcher?!
[18:29] <dundukas> hi there ;)
[18:30] <TimS> Where can I enable/disable startup process such as bluetooth which i dont use?
[18:30] <stdin> snarkster: 3.93.0? that's nowhere near recent
[18:30] <dundukas> TimS:  system settings?
[18:30] <TimS> Couldn't find it
[18:31] <emilsedgh> TimS: i think service manager in system settings
[18:31] <emilsedgh> TimS: in advanced tab
[18:31] <TimS> Ah, thankyou.
[18:31] <dundukas> I want to ask about kde4 live
[18:32] <dundukas> is it possible to establish pppoe connection?
[18:32] <dundukas> or it is only live cd without this kind of connection?
[18:33] <dundukas> sudo pppoeconf is not responding
[18:33] <lingard> how do i install a webcam on kubuntu?
[18:33] <amber_> hi everyone
[18:33] <lingard> its not been auto detected but it shows up in info centre
[18:33] <bazhang> !webcam | lingard
[18:33] <ubotu> lingard: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[18:34] <lingard> thanks
[18:34] <dundukas> bazhang:  what about me?
[18:34] <dundukas> !pppoe
[18:34] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[18:34] <bazhang> dundukas: not sure as I use dsl
[18:34] <dundukas> ubotu:  is it valid about live cd?
[18:35] <bazhang> dundukas: he's a bot
[18:35] <dundukas> okay :)
[18:35] <peck_> pour ceux qui n'ont pas de son, quelqu'un sais quelquechose?
[18:35] <snarkster> Im using 4.3.97
[18:35] <bazhang> !fr | peck_
[18:35] <ubotu> peck_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:36] <dundukas> pppoe is not working, anyway, I'll use kde :)
[18:36] <peck_> merci
[18:36] <pastulio> what do i type to install firefox?
[18:36] <nick__> Hey everyone, I just got a new hard drive (external plugged in thru USB) and when I try to mount it, it says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" Can anyone help me?
[18:36] <dundukas> pastulio:  sudo apt-get install firefox?
[18:36] <dundukas> pastulio:  u can even try ff3
[18:36] <Dr_willis> nick__, Hmm.. i recall seeing that HAL bug befor. BUt never did see/hear of the right fix. THe forums may have what to do.
[18:36] <dundukas> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[18:37] <dundukas> pastulio:  it depends on you ;)
[18:37] <dundukas> so my suggestion
[18:38] <dundukas> plz insert rp-pppoe into kde4 live cd :(
[18:38] <dundukas> lots of toys, no connection :|
[18:38] <nick__> Dr_willis: It is password protected (in Windows) but I disabled it before I logged onto Kubuntu do you think that has something to do with it?  Searching the forums now...
[18:39] <snarkster> brb
[18:39] <Dr_willis> nick__,   No idea there. If it has data on it. You may want to backit up under windowsm, and reformat it.
[18:39] <dundukas> gg
[18:40] <dundukas> I hope somebody heard me :)
[18:40]  * TuX_Claudiu .
[18:41] <Dr_willis> in here - i doubt it. :)
[18:41] <dundukas> even in minuscoulous puppy linux distro it's easiear to establish network connection
[18:41] <Dr_willis> go put kde4 in puppy then.
[18:41] <dundukas> :D
[18:41] <dundukas> good idea
[18:41] <Dr_willis> use the command line tools to enable the connection.
[18:42] <alesan> any idea how I install the java plugin for firefox in 64bit mode? I already have sun jdk installed.
[18:42] <dundukas> criticism is good sometimes
[18:42] <dundukas> alesan:  automatix?
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Thers no need for automatix these days
[18:42] <Dr_willis> install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start.
[18:42] <dundukas> really?
[18:42] <dundukas> okay
[18:42] <Dr_willis> dundukas,  there never was much of a need for it.
[18:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:43] <nick__> Dr_willis: Got it working...so simple, thanks so much
[18:43] <t1n0m3n> I think I am having a config tug of war issue between "nvidia-settings" and the default KDE application.  I am running dual monitors.  Primary is 1440x900.  Secondary is 1680x1050.  I am running two x-servers.  When I am at KDM the resolution is fine.  When I log in, my secondary monitor goes to 640x480.  I have to reset the resolution to 1680x1050 with "nvidia-settings" to get the resolution correct.  Any idea on where to look would be appreciated.  I a
[18:43] <t1n0m3n> X2500M
[18:44] <Wanderer> blah, kde4 blows up, no errors
[18:44] <t1n0m3n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48235/   < xorg.conf
[18:44] <Dr_willis> X2500M is ati aint it?
[18:44] <Kingzar> What's the better version karamba or superKaramba?!
[18:45] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: Are you talking to me?
[18:46] <lingard> my taskbar's gone funny
[18:46] <Dr_willis> yes t1n0m3n  Unless thers some nvidia cards ive never heard of. :) that sounds like an ati card.
[18:46] <lingard> i can't see the Kmenue
[18:46] <lingard> *Kmenu
[18:46] <Dr_willis> each user can also have their own video-res  settings under kde
[18:46] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadrofx_go.html
[18:46] <dundukas> So can I ask?
[18:46] <amber_> how old is everyone
[18:47] <lingard> 20
[18:47] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,    You are running nvidia-settings with a sudo?
[18:47] <dundukas> Plz include pppoe in to next kubuntu kde4 live
[18:47] <amber_> i am 11
[18:47] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: Yes
[18:47] <dundukas> young one :)
[18:47] <Dr_willis> dundukas,  sicne this is not a kde4 support channel..  :) you may want to go to the forums.
[18:47] <dundukas> sry then :)
[18:47] <ziggy_> bunch of babies in this room, how does an eleven year get involved in Kubuntu?
[18:47] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  not sure then.  The xorg.conf may need tweaking.
[18:48] <amber_> i do not want to be called  that is for sure who are you calling that
[18:48] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48235/   < xorg.conf  I tweaked it already
[18:48] <paul_the_muso> 37, god I feel old
[18:48] <ziggy_> yeah
[18:48] <ziggy_> im 29
[18:49]  * dundukas 35
[18:49] <ardchoille> !ot
[18:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:49] <dundukas> !ot
[18:49] <dundukas> not working :|
[18:49] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: The problem is that the KDE "Monitor & Display" is changing my xorg.conf setting upon login.
[18:49] <ziggy_> Is there going to a KDE4 live cd released by ubuntu?
[18:50] <Wanderer> I installed kde4 from the URL in the topic, logged out, set my session to kde4 and logged it, it exited right back to kdm...  anyone have ideas?
[18:50] <lingard> my task bar has nothing on it, how do i get it all back?
[18:50]  * genii feels older than everyone else so far, so he sips his coffee
[18:50] <dundukas> Wanderer:  ziggy_ channel kde4 ;)
[18:50] <ardchoille> lingard: right click the panel, choose "Add applet to panel" and add some items
[18:50] <Kingzar> does anyone know if superkaramba or karamba is better or are they the same?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  let me paste mine. then you can compare. of course Mine is for a tv out.
[18:51] <Dr_willis> Its possible its not detecting the moniotrs properly
[18:51] <dundukas> ziggy_:  there is
[18:51] <pteague_work> is there a way to get kdesvn to use an already checked out working copy?
[18:51] <lingard> it adds nothing
[18:51] <pteague_work> nm, finally got it
[18:51] <amber_> is there any girls
[18:51] <t1n0m3n> Dr_willis: Thanks
[18:51] <lingard> when i move the taskbar to the left side of the screen some of the tings come up on it
[18:51] <Wanderer> dundukas: since I'm running kubuntu, they keep telling me to come here
[18:51] <dundukas> amber_:  there are plenty of girls, everyboy's looking for you ;)
[18:51] <lingard> though none of the first 3 icons nore the quick access bit
[18:52] <lingard> *nore
[18:52] <lingard> **nor
[18:52] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  Mines rather simple   http://pastebin.com/m16b6a89b
[18:52] <t1n0m3n> is it possible to ignore someone in this IRC thing?
[18:52] <ziggy_> what is your hardware?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  right click on their name
[18:52] <dundukas> t1n0m3n:  use kvirc for kde
[18:52] <Dr_willis> of coruse xchat for some idiotic reason removed that menu item
[18:52] <dundukas> lots of things
[18:53] <t1n0m3n> /ignore
[18:53] <dundukas> kvirc is good :)
[18:53] <t1n0m3n> k, thanks
[18:53] <amber_> no i do not want a guy friend
[18:53] <ziggy_> kicker is a buggy little program, i'm glad they're ditching it.
[18:53] <crush[A]>  good afternoon amber
[18:53] <t1n0m3n> amber_: can you go somewhere else please.
[18:54] <t1n0m3n> oh cool, thanks
[18:54] <crush[A]>  nodz at ziggy_
[18:54] <crush[A]>  yea kicker sux
[18:54] <alex__> Hi
[18:55] <ziggy_> althoug part of it depends on the distro, when i was using kubuntu or mint kicker seemed to have more problems than under mandriva
[18:55] <genii> Heh I was going to refer amber_ to #ubuntu-women
[18:55] <alex__> i have a new installed version of kubuntu and i don't know the root password... could anyone help me?
[18:55] <genii> !root
[18:55] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:55] <ziggy_> the root for livecd? otherwise it should have asked you to enter one
[18:56] <ardchoille> ziggy_: There is no root password
[18:56] <t1n0m3n> use "sudo" for commandline and "kdesu" for the run dialog box
[18:56] <alex__> and su doesn't work?
[18:56] <dundukas> ziggy_:  sudo su
[18:56] <ziggy_> but the password for sudo IS the root password
[18:56] <dundukas> sudo su
[18:57] <alex__> ah that works
[18:57] <dundukas> then you'll become root
[18:57] <t1n0m3n> hehe
[18:57] <alex__> are there any problems, if i change the root pw?
[18:57] <ziggy_> only if you forget it
[18:57] <alex__> hehe
[18:57] <t1n0m3n> I changed mine, no problems
[18:57] <alex__> ok thank you very much
[18:57] <ardchoille> !sudo | alex__ Read this page to see some advantages with sudo
[18:57] <ubotu> alex__ Read this page to see some advantages with sudo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[18:57] <alex__> do anyone of you know, if wine is installed by defauld?
[18:57] <t1n0m3n> But you will most likely not use it
[18:58] <ziggy_> not if your using kde
[18:58] <t1n0m3n> it is not installed
[18:58] <ziggy_> kubuntu
[18:58] <ziggy_> i mean
[18:58] <dundukas> alex__:  no
[18:58] <dundukas> alex__:  no problems to install wine
[18:58] <alex__> hehe :-)
[18:58] <alex__> using apt-get is best, i think?
[18:58] <ziggy_> synaptic is easier
[18:58] <dundukas> alex__:  nope, using winehq.org
[18:59] <ziggy_> or adept
[18:59] <ziggy_> whichever
[18:59] <dundukas> alex__:  there are packages for (k)ubuntu
[18:59] <alex__> i don't know adept :-)
[18:59] <dundukas> alex__:  nobody knows ;)
[18:59] <dundukas> apt-get rulz
[18:59] <ziggy_> it pretty straightforward, uglier than synaptic though
[19:00] <ziggy_> apt-get is pretty nice
[19:00] <ziggy_> i use urpmi and its alot slower and the documentaions worse, but it seems to have more current repositories
[19:00] <genii> alex__: dundukas is right, the current version 0.9.50 is at winehq website for debian/ubuntu they have a deb package there which you can use dpkg on, or follow the instructions given to add winehq to your repositories
[19:00] <Dr_willis> learn  the apt-get tools  - it will save your backside at sme time. :)
[19:01] <ziggy_> you might try getdeb.com too
[19:01] <ziggy_> they have alot of more up to date packages for ubuntu
[19:01]  * dundukas sometimes right
[19:01] <alex__> so
[19:01] <alex__> is it easy to run a game wich needs windows?
[19:01]  * genii hands dundukas a coffee 
[19:01] <dundukas> genii:  thx ;)
[19:02] <ziggy_> depends on the game, wine has a list of programs that will run and the degrees of how well they run at their website
[19:02] <dundukas> alex__:  often it is not hard
[19:02] <genii> alex__: The best thing is to check the wine website which has a compatability list of windows applications
[19:02] <dundukas> alex__:  my suggestion, do it from command line
[19:02] <alex__> i saw the game on the website its dark age of camelot
[19:03] <dundukas> alex__: cd /way/to/game, wine game.exe
[19:03] <sigma_kubuntu> whats a good linux substitute to midtown madness?
[19:03] <ziggy_> i dont know the game, sorry
[19:04] <dundukas> alex__:  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=443
[19:05] <dundukas> it works
[19:05] <alex__> so
[19:05] <dundukas> so
[19:05] <alex__> works it, if its on a ntfs partition?
[19:05] <dundukas> I'm playing aom, warIII
[19:05] <dundukas> from my ntfs partitions, no problems
[19:05] <sigma_kubuntu> its a microsoft game. like gta but without the violence. i like driving the bus around town
[19:06] <dundukas> the newest games aren't good for my pc :|
[19:06] <adi> hi all
[19:06] <dundukas> hi there
[19:06] <alex__> sounds good
[19:06] <alex__> but what about savegames?
[19:06] <adi> can anyone help with some kde/kubuntu probs
[19:06] <dundukas> alex__:  no problem
[19:06] <dundukas> just save them
[19:06] <sigma_kubuntu> i have seen transport sims in linux but they arent quite the same
[19:06] <adi> fresh install of kubuntu 7.10
[19:07] <dundukas> adi:  so?
[19:07] <adi> first time I do sudo apt-get update
[19:07] <alex__> but were are they safed...? i though linux couldn't write on ntfs?
[19:07] <dundukas> I'm using this shit also :D
[19:07] <adi> and it is stuck at 27%
[19:07] <dundukas> alex__:  they can
[19:07] <sigma_kubuntu> adi: wats da prob?
[19:07] <dundukas> adi:  some problem
[19:07] <waylandbill> !info ntfs3g
[19:07] <ubotu> Package ntfs3g does not exist in gutsy
[19:08] <alex__> so ^ next problem ^ how do i find out were my windows partitions are? :-)
[19:08] <dundukas> it is :O
[19:08] <adi> and no update manager can work
[19:08] <DaSkreech> !info ntfs-3g
[19:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[19:08] <dundukas> alex__:  they should be mounted
[19:08] <DaSkreech> !info ntfs-config | waylandbill
[19:08] <ubotu> waylandbill: ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[19:08] <waylandbill> thanks DaSkreech
[19:09] <adi> dundukas:nevermind
[19:09] <dundukas> alex__:  there was risky to write into ntfs old days, but not now
[19:09] <adi> it works now
[19:09] <adi> thanks anyway
[19:09] <alex__> cool
[19:09] <dundukas> okay ;)
[19:09] <alex__> how do i find them? :-)
[19:09] <DaSkreech> dundukas: It's still risk but within reasonable parameters
[19:09] <dundukas> alex__:  ntfs partitions?
[19:09] <alex__> yes
[19:09] <lingard> there are some iconst that have appeared in the top right corner for applications i have open, how do i get rid of them?
[19:10] <dundukas> alex__:  /media/(h)sda..
[19:10] <alex__> ahhhh
[19:10] <alex__> i am a fool
[19:10] <adi> what is the command to know what versione of kubuntu or kernel linux I have installed??
[19:10] <dundukas> alex__:  :D no, you aren't
[19:10] <alex__> i tried to mount hdc ^ but i think, its sdc :D thanks
[19:10] <dundukas> sda
[19:11] <alex__> mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt busy
[19:11] <adi> what is the command to know what versione of kubuntu or kernel linux I have installed??
[19:11] <dundukas> lingard:  right mouse click on the icon
[19:11] <_da61_> Waylandbill, where's Jisao ?
[19:11] <dundukas> adi:  uname -a
[19:11] <Kingzar> !ntfs
[19:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:12] <Kingzar> !NTFS-3g
[19:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:12] <lingard> i close the icon and it closes the app
[19:12] <adi> ok
[19:12] <dundukas> lingard:  what do you want to do?
[19:13] <lingard> get rid of the icon but not the app
[19:13] <lingard> i was having a play around and they came up
[19:13] <alex__> hm
[19:13] <lingard> no i can't get them to go
[19:13] <alex__> i have spaces in the foldernames... .-/
[19:13] <alex__> ah got it
[19:13] <awag> !kde4
[19:13] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[19:13] <dundukas> alex__:  cd /Program\ Files
[19:14] <DaSkreech> !tab | alex__
[19:14] <ubotu> alex__: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[19:14] <dundukas> alex__:  got it? okay
[19:14] <Taggnostr> http://tabrobot.com/cgi-bin/tsearch.pl?terms=|+alex__&mode=group
[19:14] <lingard> oh, sorted it
[19:14] <lingard> it was called the kasbar
[19:14] <dundukas> trashbar :D
[19:15] <lingard> lol
[19:15] <Kingzar> does anyone know how to keep the widgets on all sides of the cube?
[19:15] <alex__> so :-) push thumbs that it will work :D
[19:15] <awag> anyone else get an "error 1" on a package when trying to install kde 4?
[19:15] <alex__> yes, thank you dundukas :-)
[19:16] <pastryness> how can i make firefox my default web browser instead of konqueror when i click on links?
[19:16] <arrrghhh> pastryness: goto edit -> prefs
[19:16] <Kingzar> widgets!
[19:17] <arrrghhh> on the main page there, look at the bottom (system defaults)
[19:17] <alex__> one more question:
[19:17] <dundukas> alex__:  remember, launch programs from terminals, often they don't work, when launched from gui
[19:17] <alex__> i have 2 workplaces
[19:17] <dundukas> yep
[19:17] <alex__> any options to switch between them?
[19:17] <alex__> like alt-tab?
[19:17] <arrrghhh> hey does anyone have experience connecting to a shared folder on a virtual machine running within ubuntu
[19:17] <dundukas> moouse
[19:18] <arrrghhh> alex__: you can setup global shortcuts like alt-shift-right arrow
[19:18] <dundukas> yep
[19:18] <alex__> ah ok... thank you
[19:18] <arrrghhh> the vm is winxp...
[19:19] <arrrghhh> or i guess i should ask if anyone has experiencing printing to a win-only printer from linux... the method i found was to setup a ghostscript and capture the output with redmon.  i also found a way to do it with setting up a shared folder and having cups print to that shared folder... either way, i need to access the windows machine with samba and i cannot.
[19:20] <alex__> Lol... runs in windowed mode pP
[19:20] <alex__> oO
[19:20] <Kingzar> how do you edit widgets?
[19:20] <alex__> is this normal or maybe a bug of the game? :-D
[19:20] <dundukas> alex__:  not always
[19:21] <dundukas> alex__:  also try to install wine-doors
[19:21] <alex__> wine-doors?
[19:21] <dundukas> alex__:  they will help you to install directx
[19:21] <alex__> daoc crashed :-((((
[19:22] <dundukas> :O
[19:22] <alex__> hm
[19:22] <alex__> so i need to install directx? :-)
[19:22] <dundukas> alex__:  look here: http://wiki.winehq.org/ThirdPartyApplications
[19:23] <dundukas> you'll find
[19:23] <Kingzar> where can i find more informations about widgets
[19:23] <Kingzar> or who can tell me more about it
[19:24] <arrrghhh> Kingzar: there's tons... and several apps for it, gdesklets, screenlets, superkaramaba or whatever
[19:24] <Kingzar> what's the best one? i just tried superkaramaba but it doesn't allow me to edit widgets..
[19:25] <Kingzar> and you can't find much on it
[19:25] <dundukas> alex__:  what kind of games are you playing?
[19:26] <alex__> mmorpg
[19:26] <alex__> :)
[19:26] <Jyzygzel-> why wont NTFS-3G work
[19:26] <Jyzygzel-> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[19:26] <Jyzygzel-> FUSE mount point creation failed
[19:26] <dundukas> alex__:  would you like fps with strategy?
[19:26] <alex__> fps?
[19:27] <alex__> ah
[19:27] <dundukas> first person shooter
[19:27] <alex__> maybe ^
[19:27] <alex__> why? :)
[19:27] <dundukas> try tremoulous
[19:27] <dundukas> dunno why :D
[19:27] <Jyzygzel-> why why why
[19:27] <dundukas> alex__:  look linuxlinks.com, hope u'll find something interesting
[19:28] <JontheEchidna> Does anyone know of a way I can rezise my root partition without reformatting?
[19:28] <arrrghhh> JontheEchidna: if gparted or qparted doesn't do it, the only thing i found that works *well* is partitionmagic....
[19:28] <JontheEchidna> qparted had the resize option greyed out :/
[19:29] <alex__> hm
[19:29] <arrrghhh> hrm... have you tried gparted?
[19:29] <alex__> i play daoc with my gf :)
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> haven't heard of that one
[19:29] <alex__> but atm it doesn't work
[19:29] <arrrghhh> it's the gnome gui for uhm... i forgot what it's the frontend for.
[19:29] <arrrghhh> i'm guessing mkfs
[19:30] <arrrghhh> amoung other things
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> heh
[19:30] <t1n0m3n> FYI, I fixed my monitor resolution issue...  I deleted .KDE dir
[19:31] <Kingzar> My adept manager is messed up how do i fix that? there was a command for it
[19:32] <t1n0m3n> Kingzar: sudo apt-get update
[19:32] <awag> i thought that i should have a .kde4 directory in my home after installing kde 4
[19:32] <awag> but there is none
[19:32] <t1n0m3n> Kingzar: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:32] <Kingzar> thanks
[19:33] <alex__> ok, trying an update for wine
[19:33] <Jyzygzel-> how do i mount NTFS?
[19:33] <awag> !ntfs
[19:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:33] <Kingzar> doesn't fix it
[19:33] <Kingzar> !apt
[19:33] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:33] <Kingzar> !apt-get
[19:33] <Kingzar> !adept
[19:33] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:34] <dundukas> I had some problems with it
[19:34] <Jyzygzel-> thats automatic mounting
[19:34] <Jyzygzel-> i just neet to mount once
[19:34] <dundukas> It won't find the fastest server :|
[19:34] <lingard> how do i run an app from the terminal?
[19:35] <dundukas> doesn't matter :)
[19:35] <dundukas> lingard:  name of command
[19:35] <lingard> is that it?
[19:35] <lingard> no sudo or anything like that?
[19:35] <dundukas> lingard:  try "kate"
[19:35] <dundukas> sudo as super user
[19:36] <Kingzar> what's the command to fix, that apt-get is in use by something else
[19:36] <lingard> it opened kate :)
[19:36] <Kingzar> there's no program open that uses apt-get now
[19:36] <dundukas> lingard:  nice ;)
[19:37] <lingard> in synaptic ate the only programs the ones with the ubuntu logo next to them?
[19:37] <Kingzar> !apt
[19:37] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:37] <awag> Kingzar, dkpg --update -a
[19:37] <awag> with a sudo
[19:38] <alex__> damn :(
[19:38] <alex__> doesn't work
[19:38] <awag> eer
[19:38] <dundukas> alex__:  what kind of problem?
[19:38] <alex__> daoc crashes
[19:38] <awag> it might be dpkg --configure -a
[19:38] <awag> yeah thats it
[19:39] <alex__> it starts normaly, i can login, but when i come to charakter choise or directly in game (with grafics) then the window closes...
[19:39] <Kingzar> still not work
[19:39] <dundukas> alex__:  is it new game?
[19:39] <alex__> no
[19:39] <Kingzar> sudo dkpg --update -a <--- doesn't work
[19:39] <alex__> on winehq is written, that it works...
[19:39] <dundukas> alex__:  is directx installed?
[19:39] <dundukas> alex__:  try first wine doors
[19:40] <ibilic> what does the little kubuntu symbol mean in Adept manager next to a package?
[19:40] <dundukas> and open the game from command lin
[19:40] <alex__> do i have to install directX and wine doors or only one of it?
[19:40] <t1n0m3n> what is the best way to change the hostname on kubuntu?
[19:40] <t1n0m3n> /etc/hosts?
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> t1n0m3n: edit /etc/hosts
[19:40] <t1n0m3n> k, thanks
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> t1n0m3n: there are other ways... but thate one off the top of my hear
[19:40] <dundukas> edit /etc/hosts
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> *head
[19:41] <dundukas> tpfu :D
[19:41] <alex__> get wine doors via apt-get? or from the page?
[19:41] <dundukas> alex__:  package
[19:41] <WaltzingAlong> ibilic: means that it is an officially supported kubuntu (ubuntu) package
[19:43] <alex__> ok installing
[19:43] <Kingzar> how do i fix the adept occupied problem?
[19:43] <dundukas> wise guy
[19:43] <crush_groove>  If I am in a directory and I am looking at a jpeg that is there .. how do I open it ?
[19:43] <alex__> dundukas: then directx?
[19:43] <Jyzygzel-> how do i mount NTFS?
[19:44] <ardchoille> crush_groove: double-click it?
[19:44] <awag> Kingzar,
[19:44] <dundukas> alex__:  run from konsole
[19:44] <alex__> or first try it?
[19:44] <awag> Kingzar, did you try what i told you?
[19:44] <alex__> ok
[19:44] <Elgordo123> Hello all.  I can't get a cube on compiz.  when it ctrl-alt-leftmouse I just get a wall with 2 sides.   wall is unselected and cube and rotate cube is selected. even restarted.   anyhelp?
[19:44] <crush_groove>  in the directory ?
[19:44] <alex__> direct x or the game?
[19:44] <ardchoille> crush_groove: In konq or dolphin?
[19:44] <crush_groove> no
[19:44] <crush_groove>  Im talkin dorectly from the term
[19:44] <Elgordo123> Jyzygzel-   do a sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/whatevter /media/whatever
[19:44] <Kingzar> Yes it didn't work
[19:44] <dundukas> Elgordo123:  --#compiz
[19:45] <lingard> has anyone been sucessfully able to set up streaming with kaffeine?
[19:45] <awag> Kingzar, sudo dpkg --configure -a <-- you did that?
[19:45] <Kingzar> yes
[19:45] <awag> hmm
[19:45] <Kingzar> with run command
[19:45] <awag> not sure
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> Elgordo123
[19:45] <lingard> or broadcasting
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> FUSE mount point creation failed
[19:45] <Jyzygzel-> Unmounting /dev/sdb1 ()
[19:45] <ardchoille> crush_groove: kfmclient exec name_of_file
[19:45] <Kingzar> or should i do it in terminal?
[19:45] <crush_groove> cd /home/bill >> ls >> foo.jpeg   <<>> how do I open
[19:45] <awag> yeah
[19:45] <awag> try it at a terminal
[19:45] <crush_groove> nodz
[19:45] <alex__> ah ok
[19:46] <Elgordo123> Jyzygzel-  are you mounting a hard drive in your computer that is ntfs
[19:46] <alex__> so i have to download directx and run the setup with winedoors?
[19:46] <Jyzygzel-> Elgordo123 yes
[19:46] <awag> Elgordo123, go to compiz settings and make sure that the virtual width of the desktop is set to 4
[19:46] <Elgordo123> awag- thanks i'll try that
[19:46] <awag> Elgordo123, also make sure your number of virtual desktops is set to 1 within kde
[19:46] <ardchoille> crush_groove: or "kucikshow file"  or  "gwenview file"
[19:46] <Elgordo123> ok
[19:47] <ardchoille> *kuickshow
[19:48] <crush_groove> kuickshow was for me ?
[19:48] <ardchoille> crush_groove: if you have kuickshow installed
[19:48] <polywaffle> Ive tried that KDE4 liveCD, pretty disappointed really.
[19:49] <crush_groove> ardchoille, bill@Tester3:~$ ls
[19:49] <crush_groove> Desktop    index.html         lp and jake.jpeg  Public     Videos
[19:49] <crush_groove> disp       ld.so.conf.save    Music             result
[19:49] <crush_groove> Documents  LimeWireLinux.deb  Pictures          Templates
[19:49] <ardchoille> crush_groove: kfmclient exec simply opens the file in the default app for that file type
[19:49] <crush_groove>  goes to past bin
[19:50] <Elgordo123> Jyzygzel-   does it give you a warning about -o force?
[19:50] <Kingzar> Hmm i too want to know how to mount ntfs
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> !ntfs
[19:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:52] <alex__> how do i install directx?
[19:52] <awag> ...
[19:52] <Elgordo123> awag - thanks you the man! I got my cube finally
[19:52] <Jyzygzel-> Elgordo123 not anymore
[19:53] <dundukas> alex__:  in konsole type wine-doors
[19:53] <awag> Elgordo123, cool, yeah that confused me for a while too
[19:53] <Jyzygzel-> i got the error and checkdiscked my HDD
[19:53] <alex__> and then?
[19:53] <dundukas> works?
[19:53] <Kingzar> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 i got this error
[19:53] <Elgordo123> jyzugzel- try it with that -o force command at the end, it shouldn't need the -o force if you exited windows cleaninly but sometimes it still does it
[19:53] <dundukas> look for directx
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: no permissions.
[19:53] <alex__> no
[19:53] <alex__> there is written:
[19:54] <Kingzar> how do i add permissions
[19:54] <alex__> Traceback (most recent call last)
[19:54] <arrrghhh> user accounts Kingzar
[19:54] <arrrghhh> system -> users and groups
[19:54] <alex__> File "/usr/bin/wine-doors", line 21, in <module> from wine import wine
[19:54] <alex__> and some other lines
[19:54] <alex__> :(
[19:55] <WaltzingAlong> Kingzar: right mouse click on the icon for the drive/partition; uncheck mount as user
[19:55] <Kingzar> ok
[19:56] <Kingzar> that should give me write permission too?
[19:57] <alex__> dundukas? :/ any suggestion?
[19:57] <Kingzar> I'm getting this text: $logfile indicates unclean shtudown (0,0) failed to mount. Operation not supported mount is denied because ntfs is marked to be in use.
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: its already mounted, you have to unmount it.
[19:58] <Kingzar> shut it off?
[19:58] <delecti> hey guys/girls i gut a quick question.   Should be easy.
[19:58] <delecti> under file sharing i get a message SMB and SNF servers are not installed.
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: no, run "mount" and find where it is mounted, then run "sudo umount <location that tis mounted>"
[19:59] <delecti> i am trying to share things with my windows networks
[19:59] <delecti> printers included.   how do i turn these on?
[19:59] <stdin> install the package "samba"
[19:59] <stdin> !samba
[19:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:59] <delecti> ok its a package>?
[19:59] <stdin> yes
[19:59] <delecti> usually its already installed i guess
[19:59] <delecti> thanks
[20:00] <Kingzar> It's not in the list nosrednaekim
[20:00] <stdin> the "samba" package is the sever, the client is the only one installed by default
[20:00] <bin4ry> hey zusammen
[20:00] <Kingzar> i can only see sda in the list
[20:00] <Kingzar> no sdb
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: hum.
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: and that is mounted as / ?
[20:01] <bin4ry> some1 got time for a short support on azureus and incoming tcp/udp connections?
[20:01] <Kingzar> i have no clue
[20:01] <Kingzar> i just plugged it in
[20:01] <Kingzar> and turned it on
[20:01] <delecti> whats your issue with azureus
[20:01] <bin4ry> delecti: i configured my router to have to forward port xyz for tcp as well as udp connections
[20:02] <bin4ry> whenever i do the nat-test in azureus i got an error
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: eh? could you pastebin the results?
[20:02] <bin4ry> even online tests report that the ports arent open
[20:02] <bin4ry> i have no fw
[20:02] <Kingzar> can tell you about what is in the mounting tab: read only offquiet offsynchronous offacces time updates onmountpoint /media/mount automatically offutf-8 charset onmount as user off
[20:03] <Kingzar> !paste
[20:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:03] <delecti> hrm all i did was open the ports in router.  this install seems to work fin4 me
[20:03] <bin4ry> hm strange
[20:03] <delecti> what is your isp
[20:03] <Kingzar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48258/
[20:03] <bin4ry> congstar
[20:03] <delecti> are they playing with your torrents?
[20:03] <bin4ry> maybe they block the ports?
[20:03] <bin4ry> i have no clue
[20:03] <delecti> could be... or throttle
[20:03] <bin4ry> tried some random ports above 49000
[20:04] <delecti> i know its an issue with some isp right now..  throttling down bittorrent traffic
[20:04] <bin4ry> hm
[20:04] <bin4ry> ok
[20:04] <bin4ry> but even though the nat test should report a positiv result
[20:04] <bin4ry> shouldnt it?!
[20:05] <delecti> ya i guess the nat would look fine if it were the isp.   your speeds would just be reduced
[20:05] <alex__> anyone could help me with wine-doors?
[20:05] <Kingzar> what do i have to add in the users part for it>?
[20:05] <bin4ry> hmm
[20:05] <delecti> im not sure how the isps mess with  the protocol.. sry
[20:05] <Kingzar> i think disk
[20:06] <bin4ry> hm well i'll check the router config again
[20:06] <bin4ry> must missed something
[20:06] <delecti> try bypassing it if you can
[20:06] <delecti> see if that changes antything
[20:06] <bin4ry> but how?
[20:06] <delecti> direct to your modem?
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: where are you?
[20:06] <Kingzar> here
[20:07] <bin4ry> uhm
[20:07] <bin4ry> switch the router to external mode, so i'll connect to internet through dfü?
[20:07] <Kingzar> what do you mean nosrednaekim?
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: never mind
[20:08] <Kingzar> :o no solution?
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> to what?
[20:09] <alex__> dundukas: please don't leave me alone :-)
[20:09] <SonicChao> !edutainment
[20:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edutainment - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:09] <SonicChao> Ok
[20:09] <SonicChao> I chose to edit my KMenu, and wtf is edutainment? |:
[20:09] <alex__> !wine-doors
[20:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine-doors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:09] <SonicChao> A misspelling of entertainment?
[20:09] <SonicChao> Or education?
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: of both
[20:11] <SonicChao> nosrednaekim, ok, and why don't I see it in the normal menu?
[20:11] <alex__> hm... is there an option to make amarok playing mp3s from an smb sharing?
[20:11] <SonicChao> alex__, #amarok could probably help better c:
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: you proabbly didn't have edutainment apps
[20:12]  * smcintyre wonders how long it takes for #amarok to send alex__ back here
[20:13] <BluesKaj> !info winedoors
[20:13] <ubotu> Package winedoors does not exist in gutsy
[20:13] <SonicChao> nosrednaekim, ok, I know I don't. I just thought it was kind of funny. And what exactly are edutainment apps?
[20:13] <alex__> !info wine-doors
[20:13] <ubotu> Package wine-doors does not exist in gutsy
[20:13] <alex__> damnn :D
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: look up "tuxcommand" and that preciely the brand
[20:14] <Kingzar> nosrednaekim:  to my mounting problem
[20:14] <SonicChao> !info tuxcommand
[20:14] <ubotu> Package tuxcommand does not exist in gutsy
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> SonicChao: its something liek that.
[20:15] <SonicChao> !info tuxcommander
[20:15] <ubotu> Package tuxcommander does not exist in gutsy
[20:15] <SonicChao> >:
[20:15] <BluesKaj> !tuxkommander
[20:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxkommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> !info tuxtype
[20:15] <ubotu> tuxtype: Educational Typing Tutor Game Starring Tux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6.dfsg1-3ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 59 kB, installed size 208 kB
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> there ^^
[20:17] <SonicChao> nosrednaekim, oh, they're like those educational videogames advertised on television
[20:17] <SonicChao> except FOSS
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[20:17] <smcintyre> I like the KDE4 EDU stuff
[20:17] <smcintyre> it's really nice
[20:17]  * nosrednaekim has his eye on Step
[20:18] <smcintyre> nosrednaekim: Lot of good work going on with that
[20:19] <SonicChao> nosrednaekim, the amount of specific needs Linux meets sort of amazes me o:
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> ya
[20:20] <smcintyre> SonicChao: the number of needs it doesn't meet astounds me
[20:20] <SonicChao> smcintyre, that too.
[20:20] <smcintyre> Must
[20:21] <smcintyre> Dominate
[20:21] <SonicChao> But you can't have everything, I suppose.
[20:21] <smcintyre> more
[20:21] <smcintyre> stuph!
[20:21] <smcintyre> !enter | smcintyre
[20:21] <SonicChao> I'm surprised that there isn't a FOSS Flash creater
[20:21] <midgetnat> hello guys... i have some issues with my hard drive, i believe it has some bad sectors... is it safe to start my computer with the damn small linux live cd and mount the harddrive and then do e2fsck -c /dev/hda1
[20:21] <SonicChao> actually
[20:21] <smcintyre> SonicChao: They are making one
[20:21] <smcintyre> midgetnat: yes and run badblocks
[20:21] <amber_> hi
[20:21] <midgetnat> with which options?
[20:21] <SonicChao> smcintyre, really? This interests me, a lot. Since I have a windows partition specifically for flash
[20:21] <SonicChao> can you tell me what it's called?
[20:21] <midgetnat> badblocks /dev/hda1
[20:22] <midgetnat> just that?
[20:22] <amber_> i am a girl
[20:22] <lovre> hi all.
[20:23] <midgetnat> smcintyre: ok so just to get it.. hehe..  first i start with the dsl live cd, then i mount the hda1 then i do e2fsck -c /dev/hda1 and then badblocks /dev/hda1 right?
[20:23] <smcintyre> SonicChao: Gnash is one and Gnu is working on a new one I hear
[20:23] <smcintyre> midgetnat: yes
[20:23] <midgetnat> ok thank you smcintyre
[20:23] <midgetnat> :)
[20:23] <lovre> i have a problem.. i cant start my kubuntu, it comes to login, and i write my password, so it goes black like its gonna login, but insted it just comes back to login screen again.. I cant log in..Help please.-..
[20:23] <SonicChao> smcintyre, A free _player_
[20:24] <SonicChao> not a _creator_
[20:24] <SonicChao> in reference to gnash
[20:24] <smcintyre> SonicChao: We need an opensource Flash replacement
[20:24] <SonicChao> Yes.
[20:24] <smcintyre> lovre:  You may need to check your error logs
[20:25] <SonicChao> smcintyre, Didn't you say they were making one? -.-
[20:25] <lovre> where do i find those logs?
[20:25] <lovre> smcintyre
[20:25] <smcintyre> SonicChao: No idea what it's called
[20:26] <SonicChao> smcintyre, ;;
[20:26] <smcintyre> lovre: ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/X11/
[20:26] <smcintyre> smcintyre: check the first one first
[20:26] <midgetnat> smcintyre: it says it was not possible to run e2fsck asked me to upgrade it because it didnt recognize my filesystem (ext3) but i started running sudo badblocks /dev/hda1 is that ok it wont screw up my system right?
[20:26] <smcintyre> midgetnat: fsck /dev/hda1 will choose the right one
[20:26] <BluesKaj> ok, for those who are using the konqueror browser and are having probs with flash on sites like youtube , make sure you have konqueror-nsplugins installed ..this might work.
[20:26] <midgetnat> smcintyre: shit can i cancel badblocks then?
[20:27] <smcintyre> !ohmy | nid
[20:27] <ubotu> nid: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:27] <lovre> smcintyre: i dont see either of thoose...?
[20:27] <lascar> Sound = dead on my laptop, running gutsy.  Can somebody help me?
[20:27] <smcintyre> !ohmy | midgetnat
[20:27] <ubotu> midgetnat: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:27] <midgetnat> sorry hehe
[20:27] <smcintyre> lovre: You don't have a xsessionerrors log?
[20:27] <alex__> someone could help me with wine-doors?
[20:27] <SonicChao> smcintyre, http://sourceforge.net/projects/qflash/ <<< does this look familiar?
[20:27] <midgetnat> so smcintyre: can i cancel that?
[20:27] <smcintyre> alex__: Have you looked in #winehq
[20:27] <smcintyre> midgetnat: By all means
[20:27] <SonicChao> !info qflash
[20:27] <ubotu> Package qflash does not exist in gutsy
[20:28] <smcintyre> !sound | lascar
[20:28] <ubotu> lascar: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:28] <lovre> smcintyre: i found it. but it is empty
[20:28] <alex__> no :-)
[20:28] <smcintyre> lovre: ah right then go to /var/log/X11
[20:28] <alex__> just wine-doors ;)
[20:28] <skyfalcon866> why is kubuntu behind ubuntu
[20:28] <BluesKaj> !nsplugins
[20:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nsplugins - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:28] <midgetnat> so smcintyre: it says fsck has unsupported features and cannot scan ext3
[20:28] <SonicChao> smcintyre, actually, it looks quite nice
[20:28] <lovre> smcintyre: there is no such directory in /var/log/x11
[20:28] <SonicChao> I think I'm going to try it
[20:29] <BluesKaj> !konqueror-nsplugins
[20:29] <amber_> really????
[20:29] <lovre> smcintyre: there is /var/log/Xorg.0.log ??
[20:29] <smcintyre> midgetnat: need a newer CD then
[20:29] <midgetnat> :( ok
[20:29] <smcintyre> lovre: Oh right sorry I was thinking /etc/X11
[20:29] <smcintyre> Whoops
[20:30] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: behind?
[20:30] <lovre> smcintyre: ok, what is the file name in /etc/x11?
[20:30] <angel> IDENTIFY
[20:30] <smcintyre> lovre: No no the log file you just said is right
[20:30] <lovre> i see
[20:30] <smcintyre> angel: Try a different tab
[20:31] <smcintyre> angel like /msg nickserv help
[20:31] <angel> what do you meen
[20:31] <Law506> I installed compiz and the configuration manager.. how do I get it to come on??
[20:31] <lovre> smcintyre: would you mind looking at it?
[20:31] <smcintyre> lovre: You are looking for lines that start with EE
[20:31] <smcintyre> lovre: you are on the command line?
[20:31] <smcintyre> grep EE  /var/log/Xorg.0.log will work
[20:31] <lovre> smcintyre: no, im currently on windows, so im using an text editor
[20:32] <angel> I like my nickname
[20:32] <smcintyre> lovre: and browsing the  linux drive?
[20:32] <skyfalcon866> in features no compiz by defalt migration wizard
[20:32] <lovre> smcintyre: yes
[20:32] <Marfi> whenever i try to convert music with SoundConverter, i get this error after about 3 songs. "could not open resource for writing" its a gstreamer error...any ideas?
[20:33] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: Ah ;) there are many answers but there are things that Ubuntu lags behind Kubuntu as well
[20:33] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: It's a matter of perception and marketing
[20:33] <angel> who likes linux
[20:33] <skyfalcon866> well is compiz a gnome thing
[20:33] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: But as it's offtopic #kubuntu-offtopic or if you want to lend a helping hand #kubuntu-devel
[20:33] <NDPTAL85> Whenever I go to udpate my Kubuntu using the  Adept Updater i get this error: "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." How do I fix this?
[20:34] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: No it's a window manager thing it happened to start off with a gnome centric window manager
[20:34] <Law506> it is gnome, but it spose to work with kde as well
[20:34] <lovre> it works with kde
[20:34] <smcintyre> but really it shouldn't matter and by the end it probably won't
[20:34] <lovre> causes some minor problems tho..
[20:34] <lovre> smcintyre: there are no lines beginning with EE tbh...?
[20:34] <angel> hi derEddie
[20:34] <skyfalcon866> i cant stand gnome. Compiz was disabling my kde settings
[20:34] <smcintyre> lovre: Ah Umm
[20:35] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: you should play with KDE4 :)
[20:35] <smcintyre> lovre: did it work before?
[20:35] <skyfalcon866> is KDE4 stable enough right now?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> NDPTAL85, do you have synaptic ..if so sometimes you can fix broken pkgs with it.
[20:36] <angel> are there any girls on here please reply
[20:36] <NDPTAL85> BluesKaj: Yeah but I don't even know what packages are broken to begin with.
[20:36] <smcintyre> skyfalcon866: Ahhhm it's close :)
[20:36] <BluesKaj> synpatic will detect them
[20:36] <lovre> smcintyre: it worked, but all of a sudden it just restarted X. It happened while i was doing an update with adept managert
[20:36] <smcintyre> lovre: oh great
[20:36] <smcintyre> lovre: can You mention this in #kubuntu-devel
[20:37] <skyfalcon866> im gonna try it now
[20:37] <lovre> smcintyre: why
[20:37] <skyfalcon866> cya everyone
[20:37]  * smcintyre goes to see about a smoking power supply
[20:37] <smcintyre> lovre: Well yeah I guess it may be just a passing issue
[20:38] <smcintyre> can You stop kdm and startx ?
[20:38] <Marfi> whenever i try to convert music with SoundConverter, i get this error after about 3 songs. "could not open resource for writing" its a gstreamer error...any ideas?
[20:38] <lovre> smcintyre: i will restart, maybe it will work now
[20:38] <smcintyre> lovre: May not but do you know how to get to the command line ?
[20:38] <U238Willy> ugh
[20:38] <BluesKaj> NDPTAL85, open synaptic /edit/fix broken pkgs/apply
[20:39] <lovre> smcintyre: alt+ctrl+f1?
[20:39] <NDPTAL85> BluesKaj: Thanks will do.
[20:39] <smcintyre> lovre: right and you know how to stop KDM?
[20:39] <U238Willy> anyone else getting sig 11 from 'nspluginviewer' ?
[20:39] <lovre> smcintyre: how?
[20:39] <smcintyre> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[20:39] <smcintyre> then when that's done just type startx
[20:40] <smcintyre> I want to see if it's a KDM problem
[20:40] <smcintyre> if startx doesn't work then type X
[20:40] <smcintyre> lovre: so to break down
[20:40] <smcintyre> stop KDM and startx to start a session
[20:40] <smcintyre> if it works then KDM is the problem
[20:40] <smcintyre> if it doesn't work then type X
[20:41] <smcintyre> if that works then KDE is the problem
[20:41] <lovre> smcintyre: ok, thank you, i will restart now.
[20:41] <lovre> cya in a min
[20:41] <smcintyre> if X doesn't work then X is broken
[20:41] <Kingzar> My title bar is sooo transparant i can barely see it how do i make it less transparanet again?
[20:41] <smcintyre> Money on KDM!
[20:42] <angel> i love cats
[20:42] <ScarFreewill> where can I find the md5 for http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu-kde4-rc2.iso ?
[20:43] <ScarFreewill> because my internet sucks and all my big downloads gets corrupted
[20:43] <Selfarian> waag
[20:44] <trappist> ScarFreewill: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu-kde4-rc2.iso.md5
[20:44] <Selfarian> anyone knows if there is wine-doors for kde also?
[20:44] <ScarFreewill> hehe thanks trappist
[20:46] <pastryness> is there a better file browser than Dolphin? i find it hard to nivigate around Dolphin, i want something like Windows Eplorer, where you can select folders on one side and view them on another. in dolphin you cant do that
[20:46] <U238Willy> Krusader
[20:46] <U238Willy> i like konqueror
[20:47] <U238Willy> but lately it's been giving me crash errors
[20:47] <pastryness> which is better for file browsing though? krusader or konqueror?
[20:47] <U238Willy> I dunno you like apples or grapes better?
[20:47] <pastryness> apples
[20:47] <pastryness> :/
[20:47] <angel> hello Flare183
[20:48] <Flare183> angel:>hey
[20:48] <U238Willy> sorry.. my point being.. to try them both out.. though krusader has more of a win.explorer look to it.
[20:48] <t1n0m3n> pastryness: Have you tried the split view in Dolphin?
[20:48] <ziggy_> i like dolphin
[20:49] <ziggy_> i prefer it as a file manager to konquerer
[20:49] <angel> what is dolphin
[20:49] <pastryness> yes, t1n0m3n, however doing that, when you select a folder on one side, it doesnt automaticall show the contents on the other sidfe
[20:49] <ziggy_> its a file manager for kde
[20:49] <t1n0m3n> pastryness: ahh, k
[20:49] <NDPTAL85> Oops I didn't have synaptic installed and can't install it now
[20:49] <lovre> hi
[20:49] <lovre> it works now
[20:49] <lovre> smcintyre: thanks for your time
[20:50] <smcintyre> lovre: great :)
[20:50] <Flare183> !dolphin | angel
[20:50] <ScarFreewill> wooooh 91cf0f6a99cf299a8302ce60ea39f8fc its right, I'll write it and check it out thanks, gday all
[20:50] <ubotu> angel: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[20:50] <Selfarian> Anyone could help me, getting my (windows) game running? :(
[20:50] <frojnd> hello there, I have some codecs installed, which are broken and there for I can't watch .avi movies...
[20:50] <lovre> another question, how do i uninstall  stuff? I have some games i installed using their scripts, but how do i uninstall them now?
[20:50] <ziggy_> were they installed as .deb's?
[20:50] <frojnd> can someine guide how can I check what crap do I allready have installed and needs to be removed and what do I need to install so .avi movies will work?
[20:51] <lovre> ziggy_: no
[20:51] <lovre> ziggy_: well, some
[20:51] <ziggy_> you made the files yourself?
[20:51] <lovre> ziggy_: no, downloaded. I think it was a .run file or something like that
[20:51] <ziggy_> the debs should be easy to removes, for the hand installed stuff youll have to remember where you installed the files
[20:51] <ziggy_> .run?
[20:52] <lovre> ziggy_: i know where i installed it. So do i just delete the folder or what?
[20:52] <lovre> ziggy_: and how do i remove deb files
[20:52] <ziggy_> first make sure you cant use adept or synaptic or whatever your package manager is to remove it
[20:52] <ziggy_> if they cant see it, then basically yes
[20:52] <lovre> i see
[20:52] <lovre> ziggy_: thanx
[20:53] <ziggy_> you might leave some orphans behind though if you dont get everything...which normally shouldnt be a problem
[20:53] <ziggy_> theres way to get rid of orphans laqter
[20:54] <lovre> ziggy_: what is the difference between "Request removal" and "Request Purge" in Adept?
[20:54] <jpatrick> lovre: purge deletes config
[20:54] <angel> yes
[20:54] <ziggy_> settins files
[20:54]  * Selfarian get's crazy
[20:54] <ziggy_> so if you ever reinstall it it will rememeber your settings
[20:54] <Kingzar> i just downloaded a new theme it's in a tar file, what do i have to do to load it?
[20:54] <lovre> so if i really want to get rid of something i use purge?
[20:55] <angel> i dno
[20:55] <ziggy_> you have to open it with with whatever your window manager is
[20:55] <ziggy_> probably kwin
[20:55] <ziggy_> yes lov, use purge if youre sure youll never need to reinstall those programs
[20:56] <lovre> ziggy_: thanks man
[20:56] <ziggy_> no prob
[20:56] <Selfarian> how can i jump to line 21 in vi?
[20:56] <Kingzar> i have kubuntu
[20:57] <polywaffle> hey guys, i wanted to just throw this in here
[20:57] <polywaffle> i found that the latest kubuntu install was almost rubbish (7.10)
[20:57] <polywaffle> so what i did
[20:57] <polywaffle> was installed ubuntu command line system
[20:57] <polywaffle> and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:57] <polywaffle> this was a nice install with no bugs that i can see
[20:58] <lovre> eh, when is KDE 4.0 coming out?
[20:58] <polywaffle> December some time
[20:58] <dream_coder> is it worth upgrading to kde 4?
[20:58] <Gargoyle76> does anyone have a toshiba laptop m45-s169?
[20:58] <polywaffle> but i tried the liveCD
[20:58] <Gargoyle76> pwr mgmt issues
[20:58] <polywaffle> it is rubbish too
[20:58] <martijn81> i have installed mdadm for my raid disks, but not kubuntu does not start proper anymore. I see no kwin/kicker and a popup in the left corner with "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation." What can i do?
[20:58] <ziggy_> poly, im not sure what the difference would be between that and KDE, maybe you hand picked some extra packages or something......i switched to mandriva
[20:58] <Kingzar> where do i put my theme in?
[20:58] <lovre> any1 has problems with icons floating around desktop in tiny windows insted docking in kicker?
[20:58] <polywaffle> well the kubuntu iso disk is basically rubbish ziggy_
[20:59] <polywaffle> i had errors in the package manager as well as in kopete
[20:59] <ziggy_> i played with the kde4 rc1 opensuse livecd, i was very underwhelmed....judging on that preview id wait until 4.1 to seriously play with it
[20:59] <polywaffle> so i did a clean install to just a command line system (i didnt want GNOME)
[20:59] <polywaffle> and then installed the kde-desktop
[20:59] <polywaffle> they say the projects are the same, but this opinion, i doubt
[20:59] <angel> what has been happening
[20:59] <ziggy_> imo, if youre a kde fan, then ubuntus not your best option
[20:59] <polywaffle> i believe ubuntu is better maintained.
[21:00] <ziggy_> kubuntu is ubuntus ugly stepchild
[21:00] <polywaffle> u can install the ubuntu command line system
[21:00] <polywaffle> and then work from there
[21:00] <martijn81> Kingzar: you can import the theme from system settings> colorws
[21:00] <martijn81> *colors
[21:00] <ziggy_> yeah, but whats the point, why not just go for a distro thats built with kde in mind?
[21:00] <polywaffle> see i built my own gentoo system once, and sometimes i find it is best to start from scratch ziggy_
[21:00] <jpatrick> polywaffle: kubuntu = ubuntu-base + kde
[21:01] <wasted> hey; i tried to install the kde4 via the link in the topic, and now kubuntu doesn't start at all. i tried recovery mode, and startx.. but it just errors, and returns to a prompt. any ideas on how to just restore kde3? I already removed all the kde4 packages.
[21:01] <polywaffle> jpatrick i am aware of this but it seems to not only myself but my friends that there is some disparity between the ubuntu project and the kubuntu one
[21:02] <ziggy_> poly, the only thing is, i dont always have time to build my own packages, and the repositories for gentoo dont seem to be that great in terms of variety
[21:02] <polywaffle> wasted try purging kde4 and kde3.5.7 and installing again.
[21:02] <ziggy_> cousre i was using sabayon so im not too sure about vanilla gentoo
[21:02] <polywaffle> ziggy_ kubuntu is superior to gentoo in most respects.
[21:02] <angel> really??not
[21:02] <polywaffle> sabayon breaks on my system too ziggy_
[21:02] <Kingzar> hmm i uninstalled the theme (domingo) and there is a install file
[21:03] <Kingzar> how do i install it then?
[21:03] <polywaffle> i would stick to kubuntu ziggy_
[21:03] <galactica> anyone know hoe to deal with this?
[21:03] <galactica> galactica@kiola:~$ fdisk /media/disk
[21:03] <galactica> last_lba(): I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755
[21:03] <galactica> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[21:03] <galactica> Unable to read /media/disk
[21:03] <Selfarian> Anyone have an idea about games under virtualbox windows?
[21:03] <ziggy_> im running mandriva now and like it alot
[21:03] <Jyzygzel-> How do i mount an NTFS partition using the Normal NTFS Support instead of the NTFS-3G
[21:03] <polywaffle> yeah, it is very commercial though ziggy_
[21:03] <polywaffle> i like personally to stay away from commercial projects
[21:03] <ziggy_> no more commercial than cannonical
[21:03] <polywaffle> ***sniggers at opensuse***
[21:03] <galactica> lol
[21:04] <angel> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????////
[21:04] <ziggy_> there even a totally free code version ofr mandriva...no proprietary software, all opensource
[21:04] <polywaffle> cannonical supports the free software movement ziggy_ and is a not for profit organisation to my reckoning
[21:04] <jussi01> !ot
[21:04] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:04] <polywaffle> ziggy_ yes but their commercial offerings have cedega etc. which are very much users of winex which was before the fork :(
[21:04] <ziggy_> no, cannonical is for profit...not a chairty, they sell service...not that i have a problem with that
[21:05] <ziggy_> you dont have to get the commercial version, you can download the public version for free and no cedega
[21:05] <hydrogen> there is a totally free-as-in-freedom derivative of ubuntu as well
[21:05] <angel> who is youger than 18
[21:05] <ziggy_> yes hydrogen, thats new though
[21:05] <hydrogen> i'm fairly sure thats not on topic for this channel angel
[21:05] <ardchoille> !ot | angel
[21:05] <ubotu> angel: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:06] <ziggy_> id like to see the final kde based release for mint 4.0
[21:06] <Selfarian> Anyone could help me, getting wine-doors running?
[21:06] <sigma_> where can i find banner ads for ubuntu and kubuntu? do these exist?
[21:06] <angel> i am english so i do not want to have other thingys
[21:07] <sigma_> Selfarian: just install it from the repo's
[21:07] <Kingzar> How do i install domino 0.4 theme ?!?
[21:07] <Kingzar> it has an install file how do i use that
[21:07] <jpatrick> Kingzar: hmm, I did do a package for Hardy..
[21:07] <Selfarian> sigma_: i installed it with a deb package... was that wrong?
[21:07] <BluesKaj> !broken packages
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken packages - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:08] <sigma_> Selfarian: that means you got it from the repo
[21:08] <Kingzar> what does that mean jpatrick, i want to install it
[21:08] <Selfarian> sigma_: ok... but it doesn't work, if i type wine-doors :(
[21:08] <jpatrick> Kingzar: that it's in the development version but not Gutsy
[21:09] <finek> huhu i have kubuntu ;)
[21:09] <Selfarian> I though maybe it wont run on kubuntu?
[21:09] <ziggy_> wine in general tends to be pretty buggy.......i use it only as an absolute last resort
[21:09] <ziggy_> it seems to work about 1/3 of the time
[21:10] <Selfarian> ziggy_; if you know how to play dark age of camelot under linux without wine, i would be happy :D
[21:10] <ziggy_> the wine derivative commercial packages arent any better either
[21:10] <Kingzar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535705 <-- can i do this jpatrick
[21:10] <Kingzar> ?
[21:10] <ziggy_> well selfar, that depends on how powerful your computer is and if youre willing to run a virtual machine
[21:11] <Selfarian> ziggy_: i try virtualbox-ose, do you have xp with it=
[21:11] <Selfarian> ?
[21:11] <ziggy_> xp should run fine in a virtual machine
[21:11] <ziggy_> again, depending on your hardware
[21:12] <angel> olivwa
[21:13] <Kingzar> can anyone confirm if this is the way to install the domino theme?
[21:13] <Kingzar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535705 <
[21:13] <jpatrick> Kingzar: before "make" do: ./configure --prefix=/usr
[21:14] <Kingzar> and if it fails what do i do then?
[21:14] <jpatrick> Kingzar: I'll request backport for Gutsy by the end of this weekend :)
[21:14] <ziggy_> whats the error message?
[21:14] <wasted> hey; how do I reinstall kde? I messed it up installing kde4rc2.. just wanna remove, and re-install kde..
[21:14] <Kingzar> i have no clue what that means
[21:14] <Kingzar> i hope it doesn't mess my linux up i don't want to reinstall again
[21:15] <ziggy_> sudo apt-get remove whatever package you installed for kde4
[21:16] <Kingzar> ./configure: no such file or directory
[21:16] <Kingzar> ?!
[21:16] <wasted> (zziggy__): I did that.
[21:16] <wasted> And now KDE won't start. I tried recovery mode, and "startx" then "startkde" - and it just crashes.
[21:16] <Marfi> whenever i try to convert music with SoundConverter, i get this error after about 3 songs. "could not open resource for writing" its a gstreamer error...any ideas?
[21:17] <ziggy_> did you unpack all the files fromt ar first?
[21:17] <ziggy_> and go to the top directory of where you unpacked it
[21:17] <ziggy_> ?
[21:17] <ziggy_> and are you running as superuser?
[21:18] <ziggy_> wasted, did you try sudo apt-get -f install?
[21:21] <Kingzar> does anyone know what to do if i get no directry with ./configure --prefix=/usr
[21:23] <ziggy_> kingzar, wherever you unpacked that tar file, is there a directory?
[21:23] <Kingzar> yes
[21:23] <Kingzar> so i should go in that map
[21:23] <ziggy_> map?
[21:23] <Kingzar> directory
[21:23] <limac> hey
[21:23] <ziggy_> yes, go into the unpacked directory, to the top of it
[21:23] <limac> Riddell: hey
[21:23] <Kingzar> ok
[21:24] <limac> does anyone have any info about labtec?
[21:24] <martijn81> is mdadm broken in ubuntu?
[21:24] <Kingzar> thnx ziggy_
[21:24] <ziggy_> no prob
[21:24] <martijn81> anyone using mdadm at the moment?
[21:25] <DM|> blargh!
[21:25] <DM|> KDE4 looks too much like vista :(
[21:25] <martijn81> hehe
[21:26] <feierfox> hello
[21:26] <martijn81> hi feierfox
[21:26] <Kingzar> so zippy
[21:26] <limac> so does anyone know anything about labtec?
[21:26] <limac> ???
[21:27] <ziggy_> and KDE3 looks like windows 95
[21:27] <Kingzar> ziggy_:  i got the following message after checking
[21:27] <trappist> martijn81: on one of my installs it looks like mdadm has an update, but it won't install because of a version conflict with udev
[21:27] <Kingzar> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[21:27] <Kingzar> and then it stopped
[21:27] <ziggy_> youu have a missing dependency
[21:28] <ziggy_> either you didnt install a dependency it needs, or its in a different part of the system then the configure file know to look
[21:28] <Kingzar> hmm
[21:28] <feierfox> any english speaker here?
[21:28] <martijn81> thanks trappist, i dunno i think i have the latest version because i just installed it
[21:28] <feierfox> i have a question
[21:29] <martijn81> shoot
[21:29] <ziggy_> what are you trying to install king?
[21:29] <feierfox> is that correct? "
[21:29] <feierfox> This Mailbox is shut down for privacy reasons [1]. Contact me on other ways to get my new adress."
[21:29] <limac> anyone labtec??
[21:29] <Kingzar> domino 0.4 theme
[21:29] <Kingzar> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino?content=42804
[21:29] <ziggy_> king, if its a theme you shouldnt be installing it directly anyway
[21:29] <Kingzar> this is the link
[21:29] <ziggy_> whats it a theme for, you should let your thememanager handle it
[21:30] <DM|> anyone have a link to a good howto on getting KDE4 rc2?
[21:30] <Kingzar> could you check the link and tell me?
[21:30] <ziggy_> ok, hold on
[21:30] <Kingzar> i use kubuntu 7.10 + compiz fusion
[21:30] <Kingzar> no clue what's my window manager
[21:30] <DM|> if you are using compiz, its more than likely emerald
[21:31] <akrus> hm maybe here~
[21:31] <akrus> how to change GTK2 style?
[21:31] <akrus> KDE's systemsettings tool not working
[21:32] <eji> ...
[21:32] <ardchoille> !medibuntu
[21:32] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[21:33] <Creative2> :)
[21:33] <matthias_> hi
[21:33] <ziggy_> ok king, compiz complicates things....assuming your window manager is kwin, then go to your kde control center and go into theme manager and open it from there....if your window manager is compiz you may have to change the window manager to kwin first
[21:33] <feierfox> could anybody who has english as mother language query me? i have a simple question
[21:34] <ziggy_> then ask it in here
[21:34] <Kingzar> could you guide me step by step ziggy
[21:34] <Kingzar> :P
[21:34] <dustin__> can i get anyone to help me with my wireless card
[21:34] <ziggy_> ill do my best, im not running kubuntu so im working fro memmory here
[21:34] <feierfox> is something wrong with this: "This Mailbox is shut down for privacy reasons [1]. Contact me on other ways to get my new adress."
[21:35] <ziggy_> go to your kmenu
[21:35] <feierfox> i ask, because i dont want to blame myself :/
[21:35] <ziggy_> go to tools, or system tools or whatver it says
[21:35] <Kingzar> oh wait, could it be emerald theme manager?
[21:35] <ziggy_> look for something that says kde control center
[21:35] <ziggy_> boom
[21:35] <ziggy_> emerald is the manager your running then
[21:36] <Kingzar> hghehe
[21:36] <ziggy_> ok, in that case the theme you chose is for s different window manager
[21:36] <matthias_> i have a question. after following the instructions to install kde4-rc2 from here "http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php" I can't open any html sites from kmail or konversation directly. the mime type given is "text/html-kde4".. what can I do??
[21:36] <ziggy_> first see if there isnt a premade theme like that written for emerald
[21:36] <feierfox> is there something wrong with my message?
[21:36] <dustin__> i need some help getting my wireless card to work
[21:36] <Kingzar> some that look like it, but their name isn't domino
[21:37] <serenity> hi
[21:37] <serenity> can i use nvidia-settings to set up my resolution?
[21:37] <matthias_> hi serenity
[21:37] <ziggy_> you have two choices, either stop using emerald as your theme manager and use kwin...which may mean less cool compizy stuff, or use a different theme
[21:38] <Kingzar> can i not import it in emerald?
[21:38] <ziggy_> you can try,
[21:38] <ziggy_> i dont know how emerald will deal with themes desidgned for kwin though
[21:38] <ziggy_> even if it works itll probably be buggy
[21:38] <Kingzar> nope it's only looks for theme packages
[21:38] <Kingzar> i'll just use another that looks alike
[21:39] <ziggy_> thats proabbly your best option
[21:39] <serenity> can i use nvidia-settings to set up my resolution?
[21:41] <hitmanWilly> serenity: yes, sort of
[21:41] <martijn81> serenity: i do it from kcontrol btw
[21:41] <hitmanWilly> heh, I always go through xorg.conf myself
[21:41] <serenity> many of our users are complaing about changing resolution.
[21:42] <serenity> so i think nvidia-settings would be a nice choice for doing this
[21:42] <hitmanWilly> serenity: they won't be able to change the res to anything not defined in xorg.conf
[21:42] <serenity> ah, ok. So no solution ;)
[21:43] <hitmanWilly> IIRC
[21:43] <Kingzar> aaah ziggy_ there's only 1 bad thing, the similar ones are tru mac clones, which means close button on the left etc.
[21:43] <keithr> I'm sure this has been hashed out a million times, but I'm not turning up anything with google.  How do I make the standard tty control keys (control-h, control-u, and control-w) do the same thing (erase character, line, and word) in kde applications (like, say, konversation)?
[21:43] <ziggy_> well King, if you dont care about transparency, you caqn use kwin
[21:44] <matthias_> any help with the mime type "text/html-kde4" problem?
[21:45] <hitmanWilly> serenity: some background on the situation may be a little more helpful, can you preset the possible resolutions in xorg.conf before they get the machines?
[21:45] <Kingzar> ill use it a day and see what comes up
[21:45] <hitmanWilly> too late...ugh
[21:45] <Kingzar> now for my next problem
[21:45] <dustin__> i need some help getting my wireless card to work
[21:45] <hitmanWilly> dustin__: !wifi | dustin
[21:46] <dustin__> it wont recognize it
[21:46] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, what happened to the bot?
[21:46] <sfears> !wifi | dustin
[21:46] <ubotu> dustin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:46] <dustin__> what bot
[21:46] <Marfi> whenever i try to convert music with SoundConverter, i get this error after about 3 songs. "could not open resource for writing" its a gstreamer error...any ideas?
[21:46] <Kingzar> when i try to type an letter with an accent, the tilde doesn't wait for the second letter! 'e'a'i'u <-- see! what 's my problem?
[21:46] <hitmanWilly> aw crap, been a while since i've been in here :)
[21:47] <sfears> welcome back
[21:47] <etfb> Kingzar: sounds like your keyboard setup is wrong.  You can pick different keyboards, including some with "dead keys" that do accents.
[21:48] <hitmanWilly> dustin__: what brand/model is it?
[21:48] <dustin__> i have heard people have problems with broadcom wireless cards
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Marfi, you have gstreamer set up to broadcast , open gstreamer config and defeat the server to network
[21:48] <etfb> Kingzar: Let me check how you fix that...
[21:48] <Kingzar> thnx etfb
[21:48] <Marfi> BluesKaj, how do i open the config?
[21:48] <sfears> are you using ndiswrapper dustin_?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> it'll be on the settings tab
[21:49] <dustin__> no
[21:49] <dustin__> what do i need to do
[21:49] <sfears> !ndiswrapper
[21:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:49] <sfears> download windows drivers for your broadcom modem.. and install ndiswrapper
[21:50] <dustin__> alright, i will try that
[21:50] <dustin__> thanks
[21:50] <etfb> Kingzar: Can't seem to find it.  Not in settings, unless it's hidden somewhere silly...  working...
[21:50] <Kingzar> :(
[21:51] <smcintyre> Hello
[21:51] <sfears> hi smcintyre
[21:51] <smcintyre> failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
[21:51] <smcintyre> Is that bad ?
[21:51] <Kingzar> oh well mayb you can help me with my next question then, i want to change the look of my taskbar! it's still looks like original one
[21:51] <Kingzar> how do i do that
[21:52] <keithr> OK, I think I've found something that I can use - I can try using Input Actions to map the keys the way I want.
[21:52] <smcintyre> Kingzar: tried RMB -> Configure Panel -> appearance?
[21:52] <keithr> Seems like a lot of work for something that any old-time UNIX hacker like me would want.
[21:52] <Kingzar> Ghehehe found it!
[21:52] <Kingzar> thank you
[21:52] <smcintyre> bug 102982
[21:53] <sfears> smcintyre, when does that happen & what did you change since the last time it worked good
[21:53] <etfb> Kingzar: Looks like it's in System Settings (in what would be the Start menu if we were using Windoze), under Regional & Language.  There's a keyboard layout option with a bucket of different possibilities.
[21:53] <Marfi> BluesKaj, i know it will be on the settings tab. how do i get to the settings for gstreamer?
[21:54] <smcintyre> sfears: on bootup and it's done that since install
[21:54] <Kingzar> hmm
[21:54] <etfb> Kingzar: You'll have to search though - it blows Windows's configuration out of the water...!
[21:54] <sfears> install or upgrade?
[21:54] <Kingzar> aw thanks
[21:54] <smcintyre> sfears: install
[21:55] <etfb> Having trouble with knetworkmanager. It won't autoconnect to known wireless access points.  Worked OK in Feisty, not working in Gutsy.  Can anyone help?
[21:55] <Kingzar> é
[21:55] <Kingzar> WOOHOO
[21:55] <Kingzar> fixed whehehe
[21:56] <Kingzar> thanks etfb
[21:56] <etfb> Kingzar: Well done!  Glad to see a happy ending!
[21:56] <Kingzar> úíúíéáé
[21:56] <Kingzar> ñ
[21:56]  * etfb should resist, but he can't...
[21:56] <etfb> !english
[21:56] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:56] <etfb> (Bwahahahahaha!!!)
[21:57] <Kingzar> for if you want to know what i did, my keyboard was set to us <default>
[21:57] <Kingzar> ;)
[21:57] <Kingzar> and i changed it to us internationalk
[21:57] <BluesKaj> Marfi, are you even using gstreamer for anything ?
[21:58] <Kingzar> iḿ
[21:58] <Kingzar> hmm
[21:58] <Kingzar> that shouldn happen
[21:58] <Kingzar> shit
[21:58] <Kingzar> itś
[21:58] <sfears> smcintyre, do you have any kind of boot menu when you start up?
[21:58] <Kingzar> áśdéǵ
[21:58] <etfb> Try two apostrophes, Kingzar
[21:58] <Kingzar> shit
[21:58] <ardchoille> !language | Kingzar
[21:58] <ubotu> Kingzar: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:58] <stdin> !language | Kingzar
[21:58] <smcintyre> sfears: outside of grub?
[21:58] <stdin> x2
[21:58] <Kingzar> ´its not how it´s suppose to work
[21:59] <sfears> grub is what i mean.. do you have any other kernel option to boot into?
[21:59] <Marfi> BluesKaj, yes, for all of my music
[21:59] <sfears> options*
[21:59] <Marfi> BluesKaj, either that or xine, don't remember. =/
[21:59] <smcintyre> sfears: Umm WIndows ?
[21:59] <Marfi> BluesKaj, but i do have gstreamer on the computer
[21:59] <BluesKaj> Marfi, not amarok ?
[21:59] <sfears> not quite.. sometimes you can boot into different kernels.. nevermind
[22:00] <Marfi> BluesKaj, let me check
[22:00] <Marfi> BluesKaj, for amarok, i use xine engine
[22:02] <BluesKaj> well, Marfi if gstreamer is preventing conversions , I'd uninstall it and use amarok as my player , which i do BTW :)...seems gstreamer is a bug here
[22:02] <BluesKaj> dinnertime ..BBL
[22:03] <Kingzar> it's depressing having to press the tilde button 2 times now for i´m too lazy
[22:05] <sfears> smcintyre, is this during or after install?
[22:06] <Keule|on> Is there a application where i can upload a file to my webspace - and it gives me a link to my clipboard?
[22:07] <smcintyre> sfears: after
[22:09] <sfears> can you boot into safe graphics mode?
[22:09] <zorglu_> !info mingw
[22:09] <ubotu> Package mingw does not exist in gutsy
[22:10] <zorglu_> !info mingw32
[22:10] <ubotu> mingw32: Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.5.20060117.1.dfsg-3 (gutsy), package size 11428 kB, installed size 53656 kB
[22:13] <adi> hi all
[22:13] <danny_> hi
[22:13] <adi> help needed
[22:13] <adi> i get this after fresh install of 7.10 kubuntu
[22:13] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:13] <danny_> maybe you should 'ask';) for help...?
[22:14] <adi> any idea???
[22:14] <danny_> i dont
[22:14] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:14] <danny_> i come for help 2 :P
[22:14] <jake_> I installed kde by installing the kde-core metapackage
[22:14] <adi> no apt possible
[22:14] <jake_> and the Display options are missing from kcontrol
[22:14] <adi> un update
[22:15] <adi> how come
[22:15] <jake_> any idea what package I need to install to get them?
[22:15] <sfears> adi.. do you have two apt-get sessions open at once?
[22:15] <sfears> if synaptic is open and you try to apt-get from terminal it will not work
[22:15] <danny_> Can someone help me? Compiz-fusion does not work properly and i need to get the updates, how can i get the updates? OpenSuSE had all options and compiz didnt run crappy?
[22:15] <adi> i go to performance monitor
[22:15] <sfears> what doesn't work danny?
[22:15] <adi> and kill all apt
[22:15] <danny_> Well, for exampe
[22:15] <adi> but the same hapens
[22:16] <danny_> the water plugin, the firepaint, and 3d cube is not a cube but just 1 double monitor on both sides
[22:16] <danny_> and thats just one of the probs
[22:16] <danny_> 2 sry
[22:16] <adi> Sfears: what can I do??
[22:16] <danny_> lol i mean 3
[22:17] <sfears> not only apt adi.. also synaptic & aptitude
[22:17] <sfears> or any other installer program
[22:17] <adi> yes but how to kill all those apt and syaptic aptitude
[22:17] <adi> ?
[22:18] <adi> it says permision denied
[22:18] <sfears> not sure how to do that.. but that's why your getting the lock error
[22:18] <adi> ok but how to kill from terminal then??
[22:19] <adi> any command
[22:19] <etfb> adi: mostly when someone says "run the command 'xxx'" they mean "run the command 'sudo xxx'".  It's one of those Ubuntu things that everyone forgets to mention
[22:19] <danny_> does anyone have experience with Compiz-Fusion on GG?
[22:20] <danny_> is there nobody?:P cant imagine
[22:20] <adi> so how to resolve?
[22:20] <sd32_> how do i update the adblock definitions in konqueror?
[22:21] <martijn81> Keule|on: not that i know of, what did you used on windows? Flashfxp
[22:21] <adi> do you know any thing to kill
[22:21] <adi> those apt-get
[22:21] <sfears> danny_ compiz is a powerful program.. there are a million things that it could be
[22:21] <jake_> err
[22:21] <jake_> anyone know?
[22:22] <jake_> I'd rather not install kubuntu-desktop if possible
[22:22] <danny_> well ok, but on suse it ran perfectly
[22:22] <jake_> but at 60Hz it's killing my monitor
[22:22] <danny_> even without the sloppy wobbly moving
[22:22] <sfears> but your not on suse.. so you can't compare it to that
[22:22] <danny_> well thats true
[22:22] <sfears> i have kubuntu & compiz works fine.. but i did have a few bugs to work out
[22:22] <danny_> yeah ok, but ur experienced i guess
[22:22] <danny_> im just a noob :P
[22:23] <sfears> there are proally two plugins interfearing with each other
[22:24] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:24] <Keule|on> martijn81: i use miranda - a messenger and there is a plugin for this
[22:24] <adi> how to kill apt-get
[22:24] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:24] <ardchoille> !aptfix | adi
[22:24] <ubotu> adi: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:24] <danny_> thats possible, but can you tell me where i can find the repo's of compiz themselves? cause i had 3d desktop before and i dont have it on kubuntu...
[22:24] <Keule|on> and theres another prog - i dont remember the name at the mom
[22:24] <sfears> good troubleshooting would be to completly uninstall compiz & all additional plugins (you'll have to figure out which ones they are) reinstall basic compiz & add plugin packages one by one untill something doesn't work.. when you find out which one doesn't work correctally figure out how to conifgure it so that it does work properly
[22:24] <danny_> i tried updating but it cant find
[22:24] <adi> ok thnks
[22:25] <danny_> ok ty
[22:25] <jake_> oh well
[22:25] <jake_> for now I just opened up gnome-panel
[22:25] <martijn81> jake_: check Peripherals>Monitor and display
[22:25] <danny_> martijn ben je nederlands?
[22:26] <martijn81> danny_: ja
[22:26] <danny_> heb je er bezwaar tegen als ik je wat vragen stel? via IM indien mogelijk?
[22:27] <adi> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:27] <adi> no result
[22:28] <sfears> sudo dpkg-configure -a?
[22:29] <Keule|on> martijn81: do you have any hint for me?
[22:29] <sfears> !translate heb je er bezwaar tegen als ik je wat vragen stel? via IM indien mogelijk
[22:30] <martijn81> danny_: waarom niet, maar ik ben niet speciaal een goeie linux-gebruikert
[22:31] <BluesKaj> !nl | martijn81
[22:31] <ubotu> martijn81: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[22:31] <martijn81> oops
[22:31] <martijn81> danny_: go there?
[22:32] <danny_> ok, ik zelf ook niet echt maar ik heb wat hulp nodig met onder andere compiz bugs
[22:32] <danny_> maar als je er zelf niet echt in thuis bent nog bijvoorbeeld dan heeft het weinig nut om te vragen :)
[22:32] <danny_> geeft niet
[22:33] <martijn81> danny_: no, compiz is not my thing, i have only tried it once...
[22:33] <danny_> ok no problem. Thanks anyway
[22:34] <johnficca> I have no keyboard / usb at install so what should I do it fix this?
[22:35] <Tecumseh> danny_: just dropped in, you have a question about compiz and kubuntu?
[22:38] <danny_> more about compiz
[22:38] <Tecumseh> elaborate...
[22:41] <dmitri> hello,can anybody help me? I am looking for a method to add a yahoo contact to my list from command line.plz help me
[22:43] <Riddell> limac: pong
[22:44] <matthias_> i have a question. after following the instructions to install kde4-rc2 from here "http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php" I can't open any html sites from kmail or konversation directly. the mime type given is "text/html-kde4".. what can I do??
[22:46] <tmorton> Is there some known issue with the fish kioslave (ssh) in 7.10?
[22:46] <tmorton> I'm trying to copy some files off of my server onto my desktop with fish through konqueror... I'm using fish:/root@192.168.0.103 and I get the error "No hostname specified"
[22:47] <sd132> how do i update the adblock filters in konqueror?
[22:47] <bsander> tmorton: try using two slashes
[22:47] <bsander> fish://
[22:48] <tmorton> bsander, doh, that's it!
[22:48] <tmorton> Thank you! :)
[22:48] <tmorton> I guess I remember using one / before...
[22:48] <bsander> hehe np :)
[22:52] <dfm> i have some video problems. kaffeine dies when i try to open a divx file, vlc shows jitter frames (unwatchable) and mplayer plays with "-vo gl". Xorg driver is fglrx and i run kubuntu 7.10.
[22:52] <dfm> it worked with ubuntu 6.10
[22:52] <dfm> please help
[22:56] <phoenixz> Hiya there, I have a disk partition of 99GB.. it has 1.2GB free, and the only 2 directories in the root of that partition take up 10.9+30.7 = 31.6GB.... Where is the other.. say, 70GB??? Is there a way I can find out what is wrong here??
[22:57] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[22:57] <adi> still stuck here
[22:57] <sd132> well i guess back to firefox,  since nobody will help me with konqorer
[22:57] <adi> could not start any
[22:57] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[22:58] <adi> anyone has an idea
[22:58] <adi> this hapens all the time I install kubuntu
[22:58] <adi> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[22:58] <bsander> phoenixz: does df -h say 1.2G is free?
[22:58] <ardchoille> !patience | adi
[22:58] <ubotu> adi: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:59] <adi> ok thnks
[22:59] <bsander> you could also try filelight to see how your disk space is used
[22:59] <Jyzygzel-> is there a place for Ubuntu Games?
[22:59] <bsander> !info filelight | phoenixz
[22:59] <ubotu> phoenixz: filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 608 kB, installed size 1740 kB
[23:04] <romunov> i've set up a server, but i can't project it to the internet - how can i mend this?
[23:04] <phoenixz> bsander, yeah, df -h (among others) says therre is 1.2GB
[23:05] <bsander> hmm ok
[23:05] <bsander> then its probably true :)
[23:05] <bsander> could be some hidden folder (trash?) that's wasting your space
[23:05] <phoenixz> bsander, sure.. but why do I have 2 dirs that total just over 31GB?
[23:06] <bsander> try filelight on the partition root, see what it says
[23:06] <phoenixz> bsander, I will, thanks!
[23:08] <phoenixz> bsander, tried du -sh on the dirs, and there was a permission denied.. there is the problem.. now it accounts for the other 82GB (yikes)
[23:09] <bsander> sounds like a porn collection to me ;)
[23:10] <martijn81> ssssssssssst
[23:23] <helloyo> hey guys, is it a hassle getting compiz-fusion running in kubuntu?
[23:23] <sfears> sometimes
[23:23] <helloyo> sfears: what's the issue?
[23:23] <sfears> not a hassel getting it running.. sometimes a hassel getting it running correctally
[23:23] <sfears> if it was that easy it wouldn't be an issue.. install & see what happens
[23:24] <helloyo> sfears: ah ok, i've noticed its part of gnome, but not kde, and i haven't installed it in 7.10, anything i need to know?
[23:24] <sfears> don't install all the plugins at one time
[23:25] <sfears> install the base package... make sure that works.. then add all the extra effects
[23:25] <helloyo> sfears: ah ok, and the base package is which? is compiz/compiz-fusion used interchangeably in the repos, or are some old?
[23:25] <sfears> compiz-fusion i think
[23:26] <sfears> it will need a couple extra dependencies.. just not all the additional effects
[23:26] <helloyo> sfears: thanks. i'm not seeing compiz-fusion in the repos
[23:27] <sfears> try just compiz.. it will find the correct ones
[23:27] <sfears> are you using synaptic or apt-get
[23:27] <helloyo> synaptic
[23:28] <helloyo> sfears: its installing now, will xgl start by itself? (sorry, i haven't done this in a while, and the howtos have me all muddled)
[23:29] <sfears> if everything works properly it should just turn on
[23:29] <helloyo> thanks, i'll give it a shot
[23:30] <sfears> you might also have to install compiz effect manager.. or something like that, i forget exactally what it's called
[23:31] <sfears> it will put a copiz settings button in your appearance control panel
[23:31] <Dragnslcr> compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:31] <sfears> sounds right Dragnslcr
[23:34] <thor89> qualche italiano?
[23:34] <genii> !it
[23:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:34] <Evil_> Can I write to the NTFS partition from a livecd?
[23:35]  * genii sips a cappucino
[23:36] <martijn81> Evil_ yes, you need to use the lastest live-cd and you need to manually create/mount the mount folder/partition
[23:37] <Evil_> I have gusty I think
[23:37] <Evil_> gutsy somethign like that
[23:37] <sfears> do you know how to mount a drive Evil_
[23:37] <Evil_> no sir
[23:37] <martijn81> Evil_: splendid, that should do the trick
[23:40] <Evil_> How do I mount the NTFS partition? lol
[23:40] <sfears> first you need to make a folder to mount the drive to.. you can use your desktop as a folder if you wish.. then you need to find out what the location of you ntfs file system is using the command "sudo fdisk -l" at a command prompt.. in there will list your ntfs partition with a location like /dev/hda2.. once you know that use the command "sudo mount /dev/hda2 /home/username/desktop"
[23:41] <Evil_> ok, thanks :)
[23:41] <sfears> welcome
[23:42] <Evil_> omg, that's crazy lol, thanks a lot! :)
[23:43] <sfears> i'm guessing that means it worked?
[23:43] <Evil_> yes :D
[23:44] <dany> hi
[23:44] <dany> need some help
[23:44] <dany> =/
[23:44] <sfears> to unmount the drive "sudo umount /home/sfears/desktop/hdd1" i think
[23:44] <ardchoille> dany: Help with what?
[23:44] <dany> i just intalled this kubuntu verison.. 6.06 i think
[23:44] <sfears> fill in the appropriate user name & drive name
[23:44] <dany> so, i cant update my system
[23:44] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi, can you help me install kde4 rc2 on my gutsy ubuntu system (do not have kde installed currently)
[23:45] <dany> cause i'm not logged as a root
[23:45] <ardchoille> dany: You don't need to log in as root: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:45] <ardchoille> !sudo | dany
[23:45] <ubotu> dany: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:45]  * genii hands out coffee
[23:46] <dany> yeah.. i was reading some x)
[23:46] <Redhammer_the_Ol> I have tried the instructions at kubuntu but get the following error: Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:46] <Redhammer_the_Ol>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb
[23:46] <Redhammer_the_Ol>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kwin-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1_i386.deb
[23:46] <Redhammer_the_Ol> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:46] <sfears> Redhammer_the_Ol, open aptitude & type in kde.. install
[23:46] <sfears> ohhh
[23:46] <dany> in some part of the manual I saw this irc chan x)
[23:46] <Redhammer_the_Ol> sfears, that has not worked for me so far -- I have tried that but I do not know how to start kde then
[23:46] <sfears> log out into your logon screen and click on the drop down menu.. under sessions there will be a KDE option
[23:46] <Redhammer_the_Ol> do I need to have kde3 installed before ? I presume not, or am I mistaken
[23:47] <Redhammer_the_Ol> sfears, no I did try that and I did not get the option for kde
[23:47] <sfears> and your sure it competed install?
[23:47] <sfears> completed*
[23:47] <Redhammer_the_Ol> let me try again
[23:48] <sfears> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).. that kinda looks like mabey it never finished
[23:48] <sfears> but i'm not sure what that is
[23:48] <dany> ardchoille:
[23:48] <dany> dany@:~$ sudo apt-get update
[23:48] <dany> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[23:49] <ardchoille> sfears: It means there was an error processing one or more of the packages
[23:49] <dany> what is that?
[23:49] <Redhammer_the_Ol> ok sfears let me try this again, its version 3.94 correct
[23:49] <sfears> not sure.. i have kubuntu installed.. it does it automatically
[23:49] <sfears> google kde for the latest version
[23:49] <Redhammer_the_Ol> do I need to uninstall kde3 apps ?
[23:50] <sfears> only if you want to use them
[23:50] <ardchoille> dany: I"m not sure. Do web pages open ok in web browsers?
[23:50] <dany> yeah
[23:50] <sfears> ohh.. uninstall.. no, you shouldn't need to uninstall anything.. but it wouldn't hurt, you'd just have to reinstall if you want to use them
[23:51] <linuxmce> How do you get into webmin?
[23:51] <dany> there is a icon next to the clock that says "there are 191 update packages avilables"
[23:51] <linuxmce> Also - what is the username and password for linuxmce admin?
[23:51] <dany> so, when i click to upload.. there is a error
[23:51] <dany> an*
[23:52] <dany> "Su returned with an error"
[23:52] <ardchoille> !sudo | dany Please read this page
[23:52] <ubotu> dany Please read this page: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:53] <sfears> dany is it asking for a password?
[23:53] <sfears> or does it just come up with an error right away?
[23:53] <dany> yeah
[23:53] <sfears> sounds like you might be putting in the wrong password?
[23:53] <dany> but I type my user password and says is wrong
[23:53] <sfears> are you the admin? and do you know the administrator password?
[23:54] <dany> there is just one user
[23:54] <dany> me
[23:54] <sfears> is your caps lock key on?
[23:54] <dany> are numbers..
[23:54] <ardchoille> sfears: Good call, I always forget the capslock
[23:55] <dany> my pass is all numbers
[23:55] <sfears> humm.... sounds like a bad password to me.. but i'm not sure, might be a corrupt something or other i guess
[23:56] <sfears> what happens if you try to install something from synaptic.. or from apt-get?
[23:56] <ardchoille> dany: Is your numlock key enabled when entering the password?
[23:57] <Kingzar> does anyone know of a widget, looking like a memo, where you can write something down really quick?
[23:57] <ardchoille> Kingzar: knotes
[23:57] <ardchoille> Kingzar: It's a nice little note-taking app that sits in the systray
[23:58] <Kingzar> thnx
[23:58] <ardchoille> yw
[23:58] <ardchoille> Kingzar: And if you want to get fancy, try basket
[23:58] <Redhammer_the_Ol> @sfears lets see if it works now
[23:58] <Kingzar> and the best weather widget?
[23:58] <dany> ardchoille: yes it is
[23:58] <sfears> alright.. you didn't get that same error this time?
[23:59] <sfears> guess not
[23:59] <dany> i have another question
[23:59] <ardchoille> Kingzar: kweather, it integrates into kontact and has a panel applet too
[23:59] <dany> hehe
[23:59] <ardchoille> !ingo kweather
[23:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ingo kweather - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:59] <dany> how to enable the focus on mouse app?
[23:59] <ardchoille> !info kweather
[23:59] <ubotu> kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1225 kB, installed size 2304 kB
[23:59] <sfears> !kweather 17050
[23:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kweather 17050 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:59] <Kingzar> kontact <-- how do you configure this to use with hotmail
[23:59] <Kingzar> !kweather
[23:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kweather - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi