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owhIs anyone else seeing a long boot delay, that is "Starting Up" shows for about 20 seconds before the splash screen shows (On a bare JEOS-gutsy install with IDE drive).00:18
owhInitially I put it down to the resume image, but adding noresume to menu.1st just removes the error, not the delay.00:19
owhHmm, I've reread that question and it doesn't quite join the dots between line 1 and line 2, initially I thought the delay was the resume image, and the error I refer to is the kinit one, but while the noresume removes the kinit error, it does not speed up the phase between "Starting Up" and the splash screen appearing.01:43
nealmcbowh: what vm are you running jeos on?01:45
owhvmware-server01:45
* owh is checking the exact version.01:46
owh1.0.4-1gutsy201:47
nealmcbsorry I haven't tried that.  I do love the script in development at https://code.launchpad.net/~shawarma/ubuntu-jeos/trunk - much faster and easier than the iso01:47
* owh looks01:48
nealmcba simple shell script that uses debootstrap01:48
nealmcbwell - "short" shell script, with great non-simple magic inside01:49
nealmcbgotta run to hear Jon Corbet give a kernel talk :-)01:49
owhTah01:50
nealmcbmore tips on that script at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549222&page=401:50
* nealmcb needs to get back to properly documenting that - so many fun things to do.....01:51
owhThank you!01:51
nealmcb:-)01:51
* owh was chuffed with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOS01:51
Icehawk78What would be the easiest recommended method for setting up an extremely basic mailserver on my server? The only ability I need if for it to recieve emails and be able to forward them to a PHP script. I need absolutely *no* other features than that.04:23
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leonelinstall nothing  and  then  apt-get install postfix  libapache2-mod-php504:28
DM| what is the "find" command to locate files? not used to haveing no UI04:39
Icehawk78I'm sure this is *not* the most efficient method, but I typically do this:04:42
Icehawk78cd /; sudo find | grep (search terms)04:43
Icehawk78It's probably inefficient, but it works.04:44
DM|ah thanks04:51
DM|Any of you have exp setting up a slimserver?04:51
The_KernelHi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 7.10, and it stops at 83% and tries to download the kernel, is there no kernel on the disc?! ANd how do I get it to not do that?06:26
PanzerMKZnot setup net connection06:28
PanzerMKZtil after the box is up06:28
The_KernelI know, i already did that06:29
thomas__is there a way to configure the network settings without using ifconfig07:09
owhthomas__: Sorry to ask the obvious, but why?07:10
thomas__because I'm not to familiar with ifconfig07:11
owhthomas__: Do you have a dhcp server somewhere on your network?07:11
thomas__no07:12
thomas__I have to set it static07:12
nealmcbthomas__: Is this a static config?  I'd think you'd want /etc/network/interfaces07:12
owhthomas__: It depends, is this configuration once off, or permanent?07:13
thomas__ok07:13
thomas__I have a static IP07:13
nealmcbthere is probably a dpkg-reconfigure way to do it - hmm - which package...07:13
owhthomas__: Yes, but are you just configuring your network temporarily, or permanently?07:14
thomas__it should be a permanent connection07:14
thomas__if that is what you're asking07:14
thomas__permanently07:14
owhthomas__: Then nealmcb is correct. You can set up your network in /etc/network/interfaces07:15
owhthomas__: The format is described using this command: man interfaces07:16
thomas__nice07:18
owhnealmcb: I'm thinking the delay I'm seeing between "Starting up ..." and "Loading, please wait..." is a vmware-server thing, because I'm seeing it with also with the server and desktop installs as well as a jeos install.07:20
owhs/with also/also/07:20
nealmcbowh: remember - 90 seconds to build and boot a new vm with ubuntu-jeos and kvm....07:27
owhnealmcb: It's extremely tempting but I have some hurdles. I've figured out how to check out the latest revision of the code (modified three days ago by nijaba) and I end up with a tree with stuff in it. How I make that into a package so I can install it I've not yet devined :)07:29
nealmcbit is a really simple package, and last I looked you just had to run the shell script itself, after getting the other packages you needed.07:30
nealmcbI have an older version in my ppa, but it has some vmware bugs IIRC07:30
nealmcband then my machine melted down and I haven't gotten back to getting that up-to-date :-(07:31
owhnealmcb: Yeah, but this is going to end up on a production server and I don't really want to install 'loose scripts' if I can help it at all. I realise that this hasn't been released yet as a product, but making the tree into a .deb would be very welcome.07:31
nealmcbthe server would have the script on it?07:31
owhnealmcb: Ironically the build commands are all there in the debian directory.07:32
owhnealmcb: Yup, it's going to have several VM's on it and I'd like to have the ability to generate a new VM simply. At the moment I can duplicate a VM directory and rename it, but that's pretty awful.07:33
nealmcbbut yeah - installing via  packages, with man page etc, is the right way to go07:33
owhnealmcb: Mainly because of ethernet adapters and host names.07:33
owhnealmcb: I came across bzr-package, but I'm sure there is a magic incantation that I've missed.07:34
nealmcbthere are several incantations.... but it may be worthwhile to figure it out for other purposes.  I'm a newb myself there....07:35
owhnealmcb: Of course googling for bzr-package helpfully removes the dash :(07:35
owhDoh, when I say bzr-package, I mean bzr-builddeb07:36
* owh starts RTFM with renewed enthusiasm after nealmcb's recommendation that it's "90 seconds to build and boot a new vm with ubuntu-jeos and kvm"07:39
nealmcbwell, I don't think there is a way to change /etc/network/interfaces via dpkg-reconfigure.   probably just an installer option or something under certain circumstances.  and I know the topic has come up of making it a bit easier.07:41
nealmcbanyway - time for bed!07:41
owhCheers and thanks for your help today.07:42
nealmcbowh you do need apt-cacher and lots of memory and tmpfs to get that performance.  but still way more fun than installing isos....07:42
nealmcband hardware virtualization for kvm07:42
owhnealmcb: That's cool, 4GB of RAM :)07:43
nealmcb:-)07:43
nealmcbhmm - I think I'm misremembering the timing - that was the time to make the vm.  booting was separate, but also quick especially assuming it is already in tmpfs memory07:47
* _ruben wonders if nealmcb brought his laptop to bed or smth... ;-)07:48
owhROTFL07:49
owhnealmcb: Hey 90 seconds for a build is just fine and dandy.07:49
* owh wanders off to make some coffee.07:50
nealmcb_ruben: LOL.  ok - teeth are brushed - now to SLEEP :-)   good thing caffeine doesn't seep thru the network....07:55
_rubenhehe08:05
* antdedyet yawns ... 3:08am08:08
_rubenhmm .. wonder if there's a way to get notifications when new packages (updates) are available (for those installed) and show the changelog of those as well .. guess it'll be a nice scripting challenge to add to my todo list :)08:09
owh_ruben: You know about apt-changelog?08:19
owh_ruben: Doh, apt-listchanges08:19
_rubennot untill now .. i just did an 'apt<tab><tab>' .. but that doesnt show it08:19
_rubennot installed by default i guess?08:20
owh_ruben: Nope, but it's an apt-get install away :)08:20
antdedyet_ruben: no, it's not installed by default.08:20
_rubenjust making sure :)08:20
* owh bangs head against the desk. How do I make a .deb from a bzr branch <url> download?08:21
_rubenhmm .. lets see how this thingie works08:22
_rubenhmm .. seems like its invoked during apt-get install .. which looks like a rather nasty hack to me .. tho maybe im not (yet) aware of more functionality08:44
owh_ruben: IIRC, you can use it in a script as well.08:45
owh_ruben: Yup, you can just give it a .deb08:47
_rubenthe docs are rather limited08:47
owhman apt-listchanges seems to have lots for me.08:47
_rubenperhaps im just not awake enough for it to understand .. i want to run a nightly script that checks for updates and shows me which updates are available (apt-get upgrade -s would do so) and also the news/changelog for those08:50
owh_ruben: Well without actually doing it, IIRC you can configure apt-listchanges to email you with those details.08:51
owh_ruben: Not only that, it will track which ones it's already told you about.08:52
_rubenwell .. i found the confirm option to ask whether or not to continue, but that forces interactive mode .. might be able to get away with piping an 'echo N' to it, but thats rather nasty id say08:55
owh_ruben: Hold on a tick...08:59
owh_ruben: You can configure it to have the front-end as mail, which is non-interactive.09:00
owh_ruben: Are you reading the man page?09:00
_rubenyeah .. also check how it 'integrates' into apt, and it seems to be 'pre-install' .. so it will be only be triggered when you're actually trying to install/upgrade .. doing apt-get upgrade -s for example doesnt trigger it09:03
owh_ruben: One mo...09:04
_rubenwhen enabling the confirm option in apt-listchanges, you can 'safely' do apt-get upgrade and then you're given the option to bailout .. but that introduces 2 interactive questions (asks twice to continue, one before downloading, one after listchanges)09:04
_rubenit could very well be that im missing something obvious .. i havent used apt in ages (spend the last few years in rpm land (sles9))09:05
owh_ruben: Hmm, seems there's also apticron and apt-cron :)09:08
owh_ruben: You can run cron-apt to download all updates, then use apt-listchanges to mail the changelogs/news :)09:09
owh_ruben: Note, that you won't need to install them.09:09
owhSorry, I'm with my head completely somewhere else, so can I leave you with it for the moment?09:10
_rubensure no problem .. i'll look into those09:17
owhTah09:17
_rubenah .. cron-apt and apticron ;) .. couldnt find apt-cron .. but the desc of apticron mentions cron-apt09:18
_rubenbut apticron might be exactly what i want09:18
owhDoh09:19
owhAs I said, my head is somewhere else :)09:19
_rubenhmm .. lets focus on my old qmail-sendonly first .. it requires an mta :p09:20
owhROTFL09:20
_rubenbefore we switched to suse, we used debian woody .. ex-collegue made qmail and qmail-sendonly packages .. lets see if i can adapt those to ubuntu gutsy :)09:21
owh_ruben: Why not just install an MTA?09:21
owh_ruben: No point in re-inventing the wheel.09:22
_rubenwe use qmail on our bulkmail servers .. and i prefer using the same mta everywhere09:25
owh_ruben: Here's an older guide, looks pretty sane: http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/03/ubuntu-qmail-howto/09:30
_rubenwell .. the qmail-src is present in multiverse so need to download the debs anymore .. its mostly the qmail -> qmail-sendonly patch i need to look into09:37
owh_ruben: So you can then just download the source, use apt-get --build to make it :)09:38
owh_ruben: Just don't get sucked into using the builder that comes with qmail, keep using the .deb approach, that way you can uninstall and upgrade it too :)09:39
owh_ruben: What I mean with "the builder that comes with qmail" is, most likely it comes with a 'make install' option :(09:39
_rubenwell .. currently the ubuntu/debian way is: apt-get source --build qmail ; dpkg -i qmail-src ; build-qmail ; dpkg -i qmail (can be done by build-qmail script) .. build-qmail is part of the qmail-src pkg09:43
owh_ruben: I'm guessing that the build-qmail makes a .deb file?09:44
_rubenyes09:44
owhAll good then :)09:44
_rubenyeah .. just need to include a ton of patches .. and kill the smtp part of the installer to create qmail-sendonly09:45
owh_ruben: Perhaps this is the time to consider moving to a more supported application :)09:46
_rubentrue, back in the day when we chose qmail it was by far the best performing mta available09:47
_rubennot sure if that statement still holds09:47
owhI realise that you generally stay with what you know for support reasons, but if we always did that we'd still be running VAXen :)09:48
_rubenfew days ago we set a new 'personal' record .. 120k email sent in 30 mins09:48
_rubenhaha09:48
_rubenour 'advertised' (what we tell managers) is 60+k email per hour09:49
_ruben+speed/performance/whatever09:49
owhSounds like a sane margin of error :)09:49
_rubenthe performance averages between 80k and 100k most of the time .. 120k in 30mins is highly exceptional :)09:50
owh Big numbers :)09:51
_rubenecommerce hosting company .. tons of mailinglists :)09:52
_rubenmailings of serveral 100k recipients are not that uncommon ;)09:53
owhYeah, just because you can have 100k recipients, doesn't mean you should :)09:54
_rubenits all opt-in ... ok sure, tons of ppl check 'i want the newsletter' after ordering something and then start complaining they receive "spam" ...09:56
owhYeah, I understood that you weren't selling viagra :)09:57
_rubenwe do have some pharmacutical customers though ;)09:57
* owh is doing a ubuntu-jeos-build across a 2way vSat and it's taking a little while :)09:58
_rubenvSat?10:01
owhSatellite link. I travel around Oz with my dish and fix stuff.10:02
_rubennice10:06
owhBeen doing for nearly five years, lots of fun and you meet some really interesting people in the outback :)10:07
_rubendownstream of sat isnt all that bad tho right? the upstream sucks donkeyballs afaik .. then again, that goes for all ozzie internet lines, the latter that is, the downstream of those suck as well ;)10:08
_rubenjudging from ur ircname i'd have guessed u're dutch10:08
owhI've got a 1M/256K link, pretty nice.10:08
owhMy parents are, I was born in Oz, but speak fluent Dutch :)10:09
_rubenah nice :)10:09
owhThe latency is hard for some people, but it's better than 300 baud :) ssh is doable :)10:09
_rubencan imagine10:09
owhThese days I have a 10Gb limit per month, so I don't even notice anymore.10:10
_rubenhere at work i got a darkfiber line which is supposed to be capped at 50Mbit at the upstream router and at 20Mbit at our router (but since our migration of firewalls i havent reinstated the policy) .. but yesterday i downloaded an ubuntu-server iso with 12MB/sec .. so i guess 50mbit cap aint working either :p10:10
_rubenah sweet .. on desktop i found a backup of my old workstation which has a backup of our old apt repository including the qmail-sendonly bin/src debs :p10:12
owhThing is, I can setup on the side of the road with a generator :)10:12
owhAnd have :)10:12
_rubenwith fiber thats a bit harder indeed ;)10:12
_ruben-rw-r--r-- 1 root           50   291336 Oct  9  2003 qmail-sendonly-src_1.03-24_all.deb10:13
_ruben-rw-r--r-- 1 root           50   355354 Oct  9  2003 qmail-sendonly_1.03-24_i386.deb10:13
_rubenbeen a while :p10:13
owhYeah, wouldn't really want to run those today.10:14
* owh needs to go and burn some fish on the BBQ. Nice meeting you.10:14
_rubenwell .. qmail's still at 1.03 .. so ;)10:14
_rubenyummie .. bring me some .. its only like 15hr flight to .nl or so ? :P10:14
owhNothing like "sta(b)le" software,10:15
owhNiet deze keer :)10:15
_rubenhehe :)10:16
_rubenwell .. have a nice one .. en eet smakelijk :)10:17
_rubenhrm .. my ubuntu-server 7.10 under vmware is having some disk i/o issues .. when i try to access files under /var/log (and possibly elsewhere as well) said process (like tail) hangs10:46
_rubentop hangs as well .. odd10:47
_rubenhmm .. found the cause: qmail .. which was installed from the ubuntu repo (multiverse tho)10:49
soren_ruben: How would qmail cause top to hang?10:56
_rubensoren: im not sure .. i had syslogd in D state ..11:38
soren_ruben: Well, somehow you must have determined that it was qmail?11:39
_rubensince it was a rather clean install .. qmail was the most probable suspec .. /etc/init.d/qmail stop unfroze the system11:39
_rubensudo didnt cache my credentials either .. so smth in the disk subsystem seemed to be screwed up11:40
_rubenhmm .. bug?11:50
_rubenDec 12 20:30:50 ubuntu-test01 dhclient: can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases: Permission denied11:50
_rubenthe dir /varlib/dhcp3 is owned by root .. dhclient runs as user dhcp11:50
_rubenignore the timestamp .. only just installed ntp on it11:51
soren_ruben: You probably ran sudo dhclient at some point?11:58
CrummyGummyHi all, how do I map the dm-$ partitions back to my hdd for rebuilding an array?12:08
sorenCrummyGummy: Look in /dev/disk/by-id/12:09
CrummyGummyThat doesn't show the dm-$ it shows scsi-1ATA_HDT722516DLA380_VDBD1ATCDV6WAC-part1 -> ../../sdd112:10
CrummyGummyI need to see which partition is indicated by the following12:10
CrummyGummymd1 : active raid1 dm-6[2]12:10
_rubensoren: nope12:14
CrummyGummyanyone? I really miss the days when it was just sda1 etc.12:27
_rubenmy /proc/mdstat lists sda1, etc12:28
CrummyGummyWow, the big cleanout...12:34
_rubengrmbl .. wondered if i could reproduce that dhclient error .. did an extra install of gutsy in vmware .. this time syslogd isnt writing to any files .. wonder if there's an issue with the disk system provided by vmware to the guest (the host is suse machine)13:16
_rubenhmm .. cant reproduce it .. dont see any diffs in rights either .. http://pastebin.ca/815908 shows some logs and ls of the dhclient stuff14:13
ivoksBurgundavia: AD and single click solution for desktops are already there19:39
h4x0r7h1smysql on Feisty seems to not pay attention to grant tables now20:24
h4x0r7h1sI created a user foo@'%' with a password, flushed privileges, reloaded the server20:24
h4x0r7h1suser has no privs20:24
h4x0r7h1sand he logs in only with a blank passord20:24
h4x0r7h1sshit.20:25
* h4x0r7h1s just deleted debian-sys-maint20:25
ivoks_bad move20:27
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h4x0r7h1sby accident, not sure how to auto-recreate it20:29
h4x0r7h1sapt-get install --reinstall ???? what?  not mysql-server it seems20:29
ivoksreinstall doesn't recreate tables20:29
ivokswhy don't you just add that user20:29
ivoksusername and password are stored in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf20:30
h4x0r7h1sivoks:  it has all kinds of interesting privileges20:31
h4x0r7h1sI can just grant all20:32
ivokslet me check20:32
ivoksit has y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,n,n,n,n,n20:33
h4x0r7h1sivoks:  if I add a user@'%' it gives that user no privileges, and a blank password20:35
h4x0r7h1sif I add the user@localhost it give that user ... it works right.20:35
ivoksto be honest, i never added user without password to mysql20:36
h4x0r7h1s....20:36
ivoksnot even with '%' for host20:36
h4x0r7h1sjmoser@portal:~$ mysql -u root -p20:37
h4x0r7h1sEnter password:20:37
h4x0r7h1smysql> GRANT ALL on *.* TO testme@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'test';20:37
h4x0r7h1smysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;20:37
h4x0r7h1sI can now log in as testme, but only with a blank password.  No privileges granted at all20:37
h4x0r7h1sIf  I use localhost instead of '%' it works as expected20:38
ivokswrong20:38
h4x0r7h1sexplain wrong.20:38
ivoksgrant all privileges on *.* to 'user'@'host' identified by 'password';20:38
h4x0r7h1s'%' means all hosts20:39
h4x0r7h1s% is wildcard20:39
ivoksgrant all privileges20:39
h4x0r7h1sah ok20:39
h4x0r7h1swell20:40
h4x0r7h1sI still can't use a password.20:40
h4x0r7h1sso it's stil l broken.20:40
h4x0r7h1sIf I use phpmyadmin 2.11.3 to create a user, it also doesn't work (though it shows the user properly)20:41
h4x0r7h1sjmoser@portal:~$ mysql -u testme -p20:42
h4x0r7h1sEnter password: (test)20:42
h4x0r7h1sERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'testme'@'localhost' (using password: YES)20:42
h4x0r7h1susing a blank password lets me in with no access.20:43
infinityDo you have an entry for %@% with no privs?20:43
h4x0r7h1syes two that I didn't create20:43
infinityKill 'em.20:43
h4x0r7h1s(there are other super user users that work)20:43
infinity%@% can mess with other wildcard entries, IME.20:44
h4x0r7h1sok.  No idea why that's there20:44
h4x0r7h1sstupid security wise20:44
infinityHysterical raisins, they've always shipped those.20:44
ivokshysterical? :)20:44
infinity("They" being MySQL AB, not us)20:44
infinityHysterical raisins = Historical reasons.  Sorry.  Too much nerd slang.20:45
h4x0r7h1sthat works20:45
ivoksinfinity: it sounded right :)20:45
h4x0r7h1sinfinity:  kefka?20:45
h4x0r7h1sinfinity:  r u lving 4ever, 4 no raisin?!20:46
h4x0r7h1sthanks ivoks20:46
infinityGAH.20:46
h4x0r7h1sand infinity20:46
infinityThat hurts my brain.20:46
h4x0r7h1si am not a dba :(  so I don't know quite how to figure out what those last 4 privs are to tell phpmyadmin, and don't know the command in mysql20:47
h4x0r7h1sbut no matter20:47
h4x0r7h1s(no, I shouldn't be administrating something I can't control, wtf)20:48
moos3anyone wake in here20:51
ivoksyes20:52
moos3can anyone help me with openvpn?20:52
ivoksmaybe20:52
moos3my client runs but server fails20:53
ivoksthere's /var/log/syslog20:53
ivoksit has some info why it failed20:53
moos3yeah its about the certificate, i made those tho20:54
moos3and put them in the config like they should be20:55
ivoksok20:55
ivoksso, what's the problem then?20:55
moos3Dec 14 13:05:20 tibby ovpn-server[7389]: Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in /etc/openvpn/server.conf:43: presist-key (2.0.9)20:55
moos3thats the problem, its a vaildate option20:55
moos3but it doesn't like it20:56
ivoksyou have only 'persist-key' right?20:56
moos3persist-tun20:56
moos3i have both20:57
ivoksok20:57
moos3because thats what is in the sample20:57
ivokspersist-key is a valid option20:57
moos3yeah heres my configs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64056720:58
ivoksyou are starting both client and server?20:59
ivokswhy?20:59
ivokson server start only server20:59
moos3i'm not its doing it by default21:00
ivoksthat's cause you have both configs21:00
ivoksopen /etc/default/openvpn21:00
ivoksand change AUTOSTART to "server"21:01
ivoksstop openvpn before that21:01
moos3k21:03
moos3moos3@tibby:~$ sudo vi /etc/init.d/openvpn21:05
moos3moos3@tibby:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start21:05
moos3Starting virtual private network daemon: server(FAILED).21:05
ivokscheck logs21:05
moos3moos3@tibby:~$ sudo cat /etc/openvpn/openvpn21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 OpenVPN 2.0.9 i486-pc-linux-gnu [SSL] [LZO] [EPOLL] built on Mar  2 200721:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 Diffie-Hellman initialized with 2048 bit key21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 WARNING: file '/etc/openvpn/keys/server.key' is group or others accessible21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 TLS-Auth MTU parms [ L:1592 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 TUN/TAP device tap0 opened21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 ifconfig tap0 10.8.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 broadcast 10.8.1.25521:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1592 D:1450 EF:60 EB:135 ET:32 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 failed to find GID for group nobody21:06
ivoksdon't past everything21:06
moos3Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 Exiting21:06
moos3k21:06
ivoksgroup is nogroup21:06
moos3yeah I have that set as nobody:nogroup 64421:08
ivoksin config21:08
ivoksyou have nobody as a group21:08
ivoksthere's no such group21:08
ivoksthere's only nogroup21:08
moos3ok that working21:09
moos3ok21:09
moos3cool I knew it was something dumb but it all look right21:09
moos3thanks for the help21:09
ivoksnp21:09
moos3now to rdp to my windows box to make sure its gonna work21:10
moos3thanks again21:10
ivoksdendrobates: hello21:14
dendrobatesivoks: hello21:14
jetolehey guys, I want to make some changes to my server kernel but I would like to start with the configuration used by ubuntu and reconfigure and re make from there...21:31
jetoledoes anyone know how I can install the sources with the default ubuntu setup?21:31
sorenjetole: The kernel source is in linux-source-2.6.22 (assuming gutsy). The kernel config is in /boot/config-*21:43
jetolesoren: thanks21:50
sorenjetole: np :)21:53
Burgundaviasoren: do you know if anybody from the server team has poked APOC22:41
Burgundavia?22:41
sorensommer: I think not.22:42
Burgundaviasoren: was that directed at me?22:48
sorenEr.. Yes, it was. I don't know what went wrong.22:49
sorenToo many channels.22:49
sorenThis is the current status line of my irrsi: " [5:#ubuntu-server(+cns)] [Act: 3,4,7,12,15,16,20,64,81,178,183,188,194,210]"22:49
Burgundaviaright22:53
infinityYou may want to kill a few of those windows.  Just a thought.22:53
jetolehow the hell do you have that many open?22:54
jetoleI typically find 10 irc channels a little high for me22:54
jetole6 - 8 seems about average22:54
jetoleI am waiting for a kernel compile on a dual processor quad core 2.5Ghz and the damn thing still take forever22:55
soreninfinity: What? why?22:55
sorenI might miss someone talking about me!22:56
jetolesoren: I think he means all those channels22:57
sorenjetole: So do I?22:57
infinitysoren: No one talks about you anyway.22:59
soreninfinity: Oh, now I'm confused.23:01
sorenSaying that noone talks about me is talking about me, so... I'm confused.23:01
infinityNo, no, that was talking TO you.23:02
infinityWhich I only do to reassure you that no one talks ABOUT you.23:02
infinityOtherwise, I do neither.23:02
sorenThat's right. They're not talking about me, _because I'm watching_. If I /part the channel... sheesh!23:03
nealmcbinfinity: so does soren really have 210 channels open??  or am I forgetting irssi status line syntax?23:03
nealmcb:-)23:03
sorenNo, that sounds accurate.23:03
infinitynealmcb: He really has that many WINDOWS... Most are probably old queries.23:03
sorenWell, 211.23:03
nealmcbsoren: I wasn't talking to YOU!23:04
sorenAnd a lot are queries.23:04
sorenAbout 50/50, I think.23:04
nealmcb:-)23:04
sorenGah.23:04
* nealmcb is enlightened23:04
infinityI find myself going on "old query reaping" runs every once in a while when I get close to 100 windows.23:05
infinityOf course, my status line isn't as scary, because I don't hilight on anything but chat/msg/action23:05
nealmcbsoren: what's up with ebox these days?23:05
infinitySo, no hilighting on joins/parts/etc.23:05
soreninfinity: Nor do I.23:07
sorennealmcb: I'm not really on top of it right now. It's mostly upstream doing the work. I'll be getting closer to it in about a month, I think.23:08
soreninfinity: I ought to be doing some old query reaping, but I remember what most of the window id's are. 194 is #linux-cluster, for instance. 123 is #aalborg, #188 is #ubuntu-x... It would suck to have to relearn that.23:10
nealmcbsoren:  that's what I was figured - hoping they are on schedule23:10
Burgundaviaas am I23:11
nealmcb5 years of supporting hardy without a good popular gui would mean a lot more questions and lost opportunity...23:12
Burgundaviayep23:12
jetolesoren: I don't care, keep as many open as you want ;)23:30
sorenjetole: Will do :)23:32

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