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[00:18] <owh> Is anyone else seeing a long boot delay, that is "Starting Up" shows for about 20 seconds before the splash screen shows (On a bare JEOS-gutsy install with IDE drive).
[00:19] <owh> Initially I put it down to the resume image, but adding noresume to menu.1st just removes the error, not the delay.
[01:43] <owh> Hmm, I've reread that question and it doesn't quite join the dots between line 1 and line 2, initially I thought the delay was the resume image, and the error I refer to is the kinit one, but while the noresume removes the kinit error, it does not speed up the phase between "Starting Up" and the splash screen appearing.
[01:45] <nealmcb> owh: what vm are you running jeos on?
[01:45] <owh> vmware-server
[01:46]  * owh is checking the exact version.
[01:47] <owh> 1.0.4-1gutsy2
[01:47] <nealmcb> sorry I haven't tried that.  I do love the script in development at https://code.launchpad.net/~shawarma/ubuntu-jeos/trunk - much faster and easier than the iso
[01:48]  * owh looks
[01:48] <nealmcb> a simple shell script that uses debootstrap
[01:49] <nealmcb> well - "short" shell script, with great non-simple magic inside
[01:49] <nealmcb> gotta run to hear Jon Corbet give a kernel talk :-)
[01:50] <owh> Tah
[01:50] <nealmcb> more tips on that script at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549222&page=4
[01:51]  * nealmcb needs to get back to properly documenting that - so many fun things to do.....
[01:51] <owh> Thank you!
[01:51] <nealmcb> :-)
[01:51]  * owh was chuffed with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOS
[04:23] <Icehawk78> What would be the easiest recommended method for setting up an extremely basic mailserver on my server? The only ability I need if for it to recieve emails and be able to forward them to a PHP script. I need absolutely *no* other features than that.
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[04:28] <leonel> install nothing  and  then  apt-get install postfix  libapache2-mod-php5
[04:39] <DM|>  what is the "find" command to locate files? not used to haveing no UI
[04:42] <Icehawk78> I'm sure this is *not* the most efficient method, but I typically do this:
[04:43] <Icehawk78> cd /; sudo find | grep (search terms)
[04:44] <Icehawk78> It's probably inefficient, but it works.
[04:51] <DM|> ah thanks
[04:51] <DM|> Any of you have exp setting up a slimserver?
[06:26] <The_Kernel> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 7.10, and it stops at 83% and tries to download the kernel, is there no kernel on the disc?! ANd how do I get it to not do that?
[06:28] <PanzerMKZ> not setup net connection
[06:28] <PanzerMKZ> til after the box is up
[06:29] <The_Kernel> I know, i already did that
[07:09] <thomas__> is there a way to configure the network settings without using ifconfig
[07:10] <owh> thomas__: Sorry to ask the obvious, but why?
[07:11] <thomas__> because I'm not to familiar with ifconfig
[07:11] <owh> thomas__: Do you have a dhcp server somewhere on your network?
[07:12] <thomas__> no
[07:12] <thomas__> I have to set it static
[07:12] <nealmcb> thomas__: Is this a static config?  I'd think you'd want /etc/network/interfaces
[07:13] <owh> thomas__: It depends, is this configuration once off, or permanent?
[07:13] <thomas__> ok
[07:13] <thomas__> I have a static IP
[07:13] <nealmcb> there is probably a dpkg-reconfigure way to do it - hmm - which package...
[07:14] <owh> thomas__: Yes, but are you just configuring your network temporarily, or permanently?
[07:14] <thomas__> it should be a permanent connection
[07:14] <thomas__> if that is what you're asking
[07:14] <thomas__> permanently
[07:15] <owh> thomas__: Then nealmcb is correct. You can set up your network in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:16] <owh> thomas__: The format is described using this command: man interfaces
[07:18] <thomas__> nice
[07:20] <owh> nealmcb: I'm thinking the delay I'm seeing between "Starting up ..." and "Loading, please wait..." is a vmware-server thing, because I'm seeing it with also with the server and desktop installs as well as a jeos install.
[07:20] <owh> s/with also/also/
[07:27] <nealmcb> owh: remember - 90 seconds to build and boot a new vm with ubuntu-jeos and kvm....
[07:29] <owh> nealmcb: It's extremely tempting but I have some hurdles. I've figured out how to check out the latest revision of the code (modified three days ago by nijaba) and I end up with a tree with stuff in it. How I make that into a package so I can install it I've not yet devined :)
[07:30] <nealmcb> it is a really simple package, and last I looked you just had to run the shell script itself, after getting the other packages you needed.
[07:30] <nealmcb> I have an older version in my ppa, but it has some vmware bugs IIRC
[07:31] <nealmcb> and then my machine melted down and I haven't gotten back to getting that up-to-date :-(
[07:31] <owh> nealmcb: Yeah, but this is going to end up on a production server and I don't really want to install 'loose scripts' if I can help it at all. I realise that this hasn't been released yet as a product, but making the tree into a .deb would be very welcome.
[07:31] <nealmcb> the server would have the script on it?
[07:32] <owh> nealmcb: Ironically the build commands are all there in the debian directory.
[07:33] <owh> nealmcb: Yup, it's going to have several VM's on it and I'd like to have the ability to generate a new VM simply. At the moment I can duplicate a VM directory and rename it, but that's pretty awful.
[07:33] <nealmcb> but yeah - installing via  packages, with man page etc, is the right way to go
[07:33] <owh> nealmcb: Mainly because of ethernet adapters and host names.
[07:34] <owh> nealmcb: I came across bzr-package, but I'm sure there is a magic incantation that I've missed.
[07:35] <nealmcb> there are several incantations.... but it may be worthwhile to figure it out for other purposes.  I'm a newb myself there....
[07:35] <owh> nealmcb: Of course googling for bzr-package helpfully removes the dash :(
[07:36] <owh> Doh, when I say bzr-package, I mean bzr-builddeb
[07:39]  * owh starts RTFM with renewed enthusiasm after nealmcb's recommendation that it's "90 seconds to build and boot a new vm with ubuntu-jeos and kvm"
[07:41] <nealmcb> well, I don't think there is a way to change /etc/network/interfaces via dpkg-reconfigure.   probably just an installer option or something under certain circumstances.  and I know the topic has come up of making it a bit easier.
[07:41] <nealmcb> anyway - time for bed!
[07:42] <owh> Cheers and thanks for your help today.
[07:42] <nealmcb> owh you do need apt-cacher and lots of memory and tmpfs to get that performance.  but still way more fun than installing isos....
[07:42] <nealmcb> and hardware virtualization for kvm
[07:43] <owh> nealmcb: That's cool, 4GB of RAM :)
[07:43] <nealmcb> :-)
[07:47] <nealmcb> hmm - I think I'm misremembering the timing - that was the time to make the vm.  booting was separate, but also quick especially assuming it is already in tmpfs memory
[07:48]  * _ruben wonders if nealmcb brought his laptop to bed or smth... ;-)
[07:49] <owh> ROTFL
[07:49] <owh> nealmcb: Hey 90 seconds for a build is just fine and dandy.
[07:50]  * owh wanders off to make some coffee.
[07:55] <nealmcb> _ruben: LOL.  ok - teeth are brushed - now to SLEEP :-)   good thing caffeine doesn't seep thru the network....
[08:05] <_ruben> hehe
[08:08]  * antdedyet yawns ... 3:08am
[08:09] <_ruben> hmm .. wonder if there's a way to get notifications when new packages (updates) are available (for those installed) and show the changelog of those as well .. guess it'll be a nice scripting challenge to add to my todo list :)
[08:19] <owh> _ruben: You know about apt-changelog?
[08:19] <owh> _ruben: Doh, apt-listchanges
[08:19] <_ruben> not untill now .. i just did an 'apt<tab><tab>' .. but that doesnt show it
[08:20] <_ruben> not installed by default i guess?
[08:20] <owh> _ruben: Nope, but it's an apt-get install away :)
[08:20] <antdedyet> _ruben: no, it's not installed by default.
[08:20] <_ruben> just making sure :)
[08:21]  * owh bangs head against the desk. How do I make a .deb from a bzr branch <url> download?
[08:22] <_ruben> hmm .. lets see how this thingie works
[08:44] <_ruben> hmm .. seems like its invoked during apt-get install .. which looks like a rather nasty hack to me .. tho maybe im not (yet) aware of more functionality
[08:45] <owh> _ruben: IIRC, you can use it in a script as well.
[08:47] <owh> _ruben: Yup, you can just give it a .deb
[08:47] <_ruben> the docs are rather limited
[08:47] <owh> man apt-listchanges seems to have lots for me.
[08:50] <_ruben> perhaps im just not awake enough for it to understand .. i want to run a nightly script that checks for updates and shows me which updates are available (apt-get upgrade -s would do so) and also the news/changelog for those
[08:51] <owh> _ruben: Well without actually doing it, IIRC you can configure apt-listchanges to email you with those details.
[08:52] <owh> _ruben: Not only that, it will track which ones it's already told you about.
[08:55] <_ruben> well .. i found the confirm option to ask whether or not to continue, but that forces interactive mode .. might be able to get away with piping an 'echo N' to it, but thats rather nasty id say
[08:59] <owh> _ruben: Hold on a tick...
[09:00] <owh> _ruben: You can configure it to have the front-end as mail, which is non-interactive.
[09:00] <owh> _ruben: Are you reading the man page?
[09:03] <_ruben> yeah .. also check how it 'integrates' into apt, and it seems to be 'pre-install' .. so it will be only be triggered when you're actually trying to install/upgrade .. doing apt-get upgrade -s for example doesnt trigger it
[09:04] <owh> _ruben: One mo...
[09:04] <_ruben> when enabling the confirm option in apt-listchanges, you can 'safely' do apt-get upgrade and then you're given the option to bailout .. but that introduces 2 interactive questions (asks twice to continue, one before downloading, one after listchanges)
[09:05] <_ruben> it could very well be that im missing something obvious .. i havent used apt in ages (spend the last few years in rpm land (sles9))
[09:08] <owh> _ruben: Hmm, seems there's also apticron and apt-cron :)
[09:09] <owh> _ruben: You can run cron-apt to download all updates, then use apt-listchanges to mail the changelogs/news :)
[09:09] <owh> _ruben: Note, that you won't need to install them.
[09:10] <owh> Sorry, I'm with my head completely somewhere else, so can I leave you with it for the moment?
[09:17] <_ruben> sure no problem .. i'll look into those
[09:17] <owh> Tah
[09:18] <_ruben> ah .. cron-apt and apticron ;) .. couldnt find apt-cron .. but the desc of apticron mentions cron-apt
[09:18] <_ruben> but apticron might be exactly what i want
[09:19] <owh> Doh
[09:19] <owh> As I said, my head is somewhere else :)
[09:20] <_ruben> hmm .. lets focus on my old qmail-sendonly first .. it requires an mta :p
[09:20] <owh> ROTFL
[09:21] <_ruben> before we switched to suse, we used debian woody .. ex-collegue made qmail and qmail-sendonly packages .. lets see if i can adapt those to ubuntu gutsy :)
[09:21] <owh> _ruben: Why not just install an MTA?
[09:22] <owh> _ruben: No point in re-inventing the wheel.
[09:25] <_ruben> we use qmail on our bulkmail servers .. and i prefer using the same mta everywhere
[09:30] <owh> _ruben: Here's an older guide, looks pretty sane: http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/03/ubuntu-qmail-howto/
[09:37] <_ruben> well .. the qmail-src is present in multiverse so need to download the debs anymore .. its mostly the qmail -> qmail-sendonly patch i need to look into
[09:38] <owh> _ruben: So you can then just download the source, use apt-get --build to make it :)
[09:39] <owh> _ruben: Just don't get sucked into using the builder that comes with qmail, keep using the .deb approach, that way you can uninstall and upgrade it too :)
[09:39] <owh> _ruben: What I mean with "the builder that comes with qmail" is, most likely it comes with a 'make install' option :(
[09:43] <_ruben> well .. currently the ubuntu/debian way is: apt-get source --build qmail ; dpkg -i qmail-src ; build-qmail ; dpkg -i qmail (can be done by build-qmail script) .. build-qmail is part of the qmail-src pkg
[09:44] <owh> _ruben: I'm guessing that the build-qmail makes a .deb file?
[09:44] <_ruben> yes
[09:44] <owh> All good then :)
[09:45] <_ruben> yeah .. just need to include a ton of patches .. and kill the smtp part of the installer to create qmail-sendonly
[09:46] <owh> _ruben: Perhaps this is the time to consider moving to a more supported application :)
[09:47] <_ruben> true, back in the day when we chose qmail it was by far the best performing mta available
[09:47] <_ruben> not sure if that statement still holds
[09:48] <owh> I realise that you generally stay with what you know for support reasons, but if we always did that we'd still be running VAXen :)
[09:48] <_ruben> few days ago we set a new 'personal' record .. 120k email sent in 30 mins
[09:48] <_ruben> haha
[09:49] <_ruben> our 'advertised' (what we tell managers) is 60+k email per hour
[09:49] <_ruben> +speed/performance/whatever
[09:49] <owh> Sounds like a sane margin of error :)
[09:50] <_ruben> the performance averages between 80k and 100k most of the time .. 120k in 30mins is highly exceptional :)
[09:51] <owh>  Big numbers :)
[09:52] <_ruben> ecommerce hosting company .. tons of mailinglists :)
[09:53] <_ruben> mailings of serveral 100k recipients are not that uncommon ;)
[09:54] <owh> Yeah, just because you can have 100k recipients, doesn't mean you should :)
[09:56] <_ruben> its all opt-in ... ok sure, tons of ppl check 'i want the newsletter' after ordering something and then start complaining they receive "spam" ...
[09:57] <owh> Yeah, I understood that you weren't selling viagra :)
[09:57] <_ruben> we do have some pharmacutical customers though ;)
[09:58]  * owh is doing a ubuntu-jeos-build across a 2way vSat and it's taking a little while :)
[10:01] <_ruben> vSat?
[10:02] <owh> Satellite link. I travel around Oz with my dish and fix stuff.
[10:06] <_ruben> nice
[10:07] <owh> Been doing for nearly five years, lots of fun and you meet some really interesting people in the outback :)
[10:08] <_ruben> downstream of sat isnt all that bad tho right? the upstream sucks donkeyballs afaik .. then again, that goes for all ozzie internet lines, the latter that is, the downstream of those suck as well ;)
[10:08] <_ruben> judging from ur ircname i'd have guessed u're dutch
[10:08] <owh> I've got a 1M/256K link, pretty nice.
[10:09] <owh> My parents are, I was born in Oz, but speak fluent Dutch :)
[10:09] <_ruben> ah nice :)
[10:09] <owh> The latency is hard for some people, but it's better than 300 baud :) ssh is doable :)
[10:09] <_ruben> can imagine
[10:10] <owh> These days I have a 10Gb limit per month, so I don't even notice anymore.
[10:10] <_ruben> here at work i got a darkfiber line which is supposed to be capped at 50Mbit at the upstream router and at 20Mbit at our router (but since our migration of firewalls i havent reinstated the policy) .. but yesterday i downloaded an ubuntu-server iso with 12MB/sec .. so i guess 50mbit cap aint working either :p
[10:12] <_ruben> ah sweet .. on desktop i found a backup of my old workstation which has a backup of our old apt repository including the qmail-sendonly bin/src debs :p
[10:12] <owh> Thing is, I can setup on the side of the road with a generator :)
[10:12] <owh> And have :)
[10:12] <_ruben> with fiber thats a bit harder indeed ;)
[10:13] <_ruben> -rw-r--r-- 1 root           50   291336 Oct  9  2003 qmail-sendonly-src_1.03-24_all.deb
[10:13] <_ruben> -rw-r--r-- 1 root           50   355354 Oct  9  2003 qmail-sendonly_1.03-24_i386.deb
[10:13] <_ruben> been a while :p
[10:14] <owh> Yeah, wouldn't really want to run those today.
[10:14]  * owh needs to go and burn some fish on the BBQ. Nice meeting you.
[10:14] <_ruben> well .. qmail's still at 1.03 .. so ;)
[10:14] <_ruben> yummie .. bring me some .. its only like 15hr flight to .nl or so ? :P
[10:15] <owh> Nothing like "sta(b)le" software,
[10:15] <owh> Niet deze keer :)
[10:16] <_ruben> hehe :)
[10:17] <_ruben> well .. have a nice one .. en eet smakelijk :)
[10:46] <_ruben> hrm .. my ubuntu-server 7.10 under vmware is having some disk i/o issues .. when i try to access files under /var/log (and possibly elsewhere as well) said process (like tail) hangs
[10:47] <_ruben> top hangs as well .. odd
[10:49] <_ruben> hmm .. found the cause: qmail .. which was installed from the ubuntu repo (multiverse tho)
[10:56] <soren> _ruben: How would qmail cause top to hang?
[11:38] <_ruben> soren: im not sure .. i had syslogd in D state ..
[11:39] <soren> _ruben: Well, somehow you must have determined that it was qmail?
[11:39] <_ruben> since it was a rather clean install .. qmail was the most probable suspec .. /etc/init.d/qmail stop unfroze the system
[11:40] <_ruben> sudo didnt cache my credentials either .. so smth in the disk subsystem seemed to be screwed up
[11:50] <_ruben> hmm .. bug?
[11:50] <_ruben> Dec 12 20:30:50 ubuntu-test01 dhclient: can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases: Permission denied
[11:50] <_ruben> the dir /varlib/dhcp3 is owned by root .. dhclient runs as user dhcp
[11:51] <_ruben> ignore the timestamp .. only just installed ntp on it
[11:58] <soren> _ruben: You probably ran sudo dhclient at some point?
[12:08] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, how do I map the dm-$ partitions back to my hdd for rebuilding an array?
[12:09] <soren> CrummyGummy: Look in /dev/disk/by-id/
[12:10] <CrummyGummy> That doesn't show the dm-$ it shows scsi-1ATA_HDT722516DLA380_VDBD1ATCDV6WAC-part1 -> ../../sdd1
[12:10] <CrummyGummy> I need to see which partition is indicated by the following
[12:10] <CrummyGummy> md1 : active raid1 dm-6[2]
[12:14] <_ruben> soren: nope
[12:27] <CrummyGummy> anyone? I really miss the days when it was just sda1 etc.
[12:28] <_ruben> my /proc/mdstat lists sda1, etc
[12:34] <CrummyGummy> Wow, the big cleanout...
[13:16] <_ruben> grmbl .. wondered if i could reproduce that dhclient error .. did an extra install of gutsy in vmware .. this time syslogd isnt writing to any files .. wonder if there's an issue with the disk system provided by vmware to the guest (the host is suse machine)
[14:13] <_ruben> hmm .. cant reproduce it .. dont see any diffs in rights either .. http://pastebin.ca/815908 shows some logs and ls of the dhclient stuff
[19:39] <ivoks> Burgundavia: AD and single click solution for desktops are already there
[20:24] <h4x0r7h1s> mysql on Feisty seems to not pay attention to grant tables now
[20:24] <h4x0r7h1s> I created a user foo@'%' with a password, flushed privileges, reloaded the server
[20:24] <h4x0r7h1s> user has no privs
[20:24] <h4x0r7h1s> and he logs in only with a blank passord
[20:25] <h4x0r7h1s> shit.
[20:25]  * h4x0r7h1s just deleted debian-sys-maint
[20:27] <ivoks_> bad move
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[20:29] <h4x0r7h1s> by accident, not sure how to auto-recreate it
[20:29] <h4x0r7h1s> apt-get install --reinstall ???? what?  not mysql-server it seems
[20:29] <ivoks> reinstall doesn't recreate tables
[20:29] <ivoks> why don't you just add that user
[20:30] <ivoks> username and password are stored in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[20:31] <h4x0r7h1s> ivoks:  it has all kinds of interesting privileges
[20:32] <h4x0r7h1s> I can just grant all
[20:32] <ivoks> let me check
[20:33] <ivoks> it has y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,y,n,n,n,n,n
[20:35] <h4x0r7h1s> ivoks:  if I add a user@'%' it gives that user no privileges, and a blank password
[20:35] <h4x0r7h1s> if I add the user@localhost it give that user ... it works right.
[20:36] <ivoks> to be honest, i never added user without password to mysql
[20:36] <h4x0r7h1s> ....
[20:36] <ivoks> not even with '%' for host
[20:37] <h4x0r7h1s> jmoser@portal:~$ mysql -u root -p
[20:37] <h4x0r7h1s> Enter password:
[20:37] <h4x0r7h1s> mysql> GRANT ALL on *.* TO testme@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'test';
[20:37] <h4x0r7h1s> mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[20:37] <h4x0r7h1s> I can now log in as testme, but only with a blank password.  No privileges granted at all
[20:38] <h4x0r7h1s> If  I use localhost instead of '%' it works as expected
[20:38] <ivoks> wrong
[20:38] <h4x0r7h1s> explain wrong.
[20:38] <ivoks> grant all privileges on *.* to 'user'@'host' identified by 'password';
[20:39] <h4x0r7h1s> '%' means all hosts
[20:39] <h4x0r7h1s> % is wildcard
[20:39] <ivoks> grant all privileges
[20:39] <h4x0r7h1s> ah ok
[20:40] <h4x0r7h1s> well
[20:40] <h4x0r7h1s> I still can't use a password.
[20:40] <h4x0r7h1s> so it's stil l broken.
[20:41] <h4x0r7h1s> If I use phpmyadmin 2.11.3 to create a user, it also doesn't work (though it shows the user properly)
[20:42] <h4x0r7h1s> jmoser@portal:~$ mysql -u testme -p
[20:42] <h4x0r7h1s> Enter password: (test)
[20:42] <h4x0r7h1s> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'testme'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[20:43] <h4x0r7h1s> using a blank password lets me in with no access.
[20:43] <infinity> Do you have an entry for %@% with no privs?
[20:43] <h4x0r7h1s> yes two that I didn't create
[20:43] <infinity> Kill 'em.
[20:43] <h4x0r7h1s> (there are other super user users that work)
[20:44] <infinity> %@% can mess with other wildcard entries, IME.
[20:44] <h4x0r7h1s> ok.  No idea why that's there
[20:44] <h4x0r7h1s> stupid security wise
[20:44] <infinity> Hysterical raisins, they've always shipped those.
[20:44] <ivoks> hysterical? :)
[20:44] <infinity> ("They" being MySQL AB, not us)
[20:45] <infinity> Hysterical raisins = Historical reasons.  Sorry.  Too much nerd slang.
[20:45] <h4x0r7h1s> that works
[20:45] <ivoks> infinity: it sounded right :)
[20:45] <h4x0r7h1s> infinity:  kefka?
[20:46] <h4x0r7h1s> infinity:  r u lving 4ever, 4 no raisin?!
[20:46] <h4x0r7h1s> thanks ivoks
[20:46] <infinity> GAH.
[20:46] <h4x0r7h1s> and infinity
[20:46] <infinity> That hurts my brain.
[20:47] <h4x0r7h1s> i am not a dba :(  so I don't know quite how to figure out what those last 4 privs are to tell phpmyadmin, and don't know the command in mysql
[20:47] <h4x0r7h1s> but no matter
[20:48] <h4x0r7h1s> (no, I shouldn't be administrating something I can't control, wtf)
[20:51] <moos3> anyone wake in here
[20:52] <ivoks> yes
[20:52] <moos3> can anyone help me with openvpn?
[20:52] <ivoks> maybe
[20:53] <moos3> my client runs but server fails
[20:53] <ivoks> there's /var/log/syslog
[20:53] <ivoks> it has some info why it failed
[20:54] <moos3> yeah its about the certificate, i made those tho
[20:55] <moos3> and put them in the config like they should be
[20:55] <ivoks> ok
[20:55] <ivoks> so, what's the problem then?
[20:55] <moos3> Dec 14 13:05:20 tibby ovpn-server[7389]: Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in /etc/openvpn/server.conf:43: presist-key (2.0.9)
[20:55] <moos3> thats the problem, its a vaildate option
[20:56] <moos3> but it doesn't like it
[20:56] <ivoks> you have only 'persist-key' right?
[20:56] <moos3> persist-tun
[20:57] <moos3> i have both
[20:57] <ivoks> ok
[20:57] <moos3> because thats what is in the sample
[20:57] <ivoks> persist-key is a valid option
[20:58] <moos3> yeah heres my configs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=640567
[20:59] <ivoks> you are starting both client and server?
[20:59] <ivoks> why?
[20:59] <ivoks> on server start only server
[21:00] <moos3> i'm not its doing it by default
[21:00] <ivoks> that's cause you have both configs
[21:00] <ivoks> open /etc/default/openvpn
[21:01] <ivoks> and change AUTOSTART to "server"
[21:01] <ivoks> stop openvpn before that
[21:03] <moos3> k
[21:05] <moos3> moos3@tibby:~$ sudo vi /etc/init.d/openvpn
[21:05] <moos3> moos3@tibby:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start
[21:05] <moos3> Starting virtual private network daemon: server(FAILED).
[21:05] <ivoks> check logs
[21:06] <moos3> moos3@tibby:~$ sudo cat /etc/openvpn/openvpn
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 OpenVPN 2.0.9 i486-pc-linux-gnu [SSL] [LZO] [EPOLL] built on Mar  2 2007
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 Diffie-Hellman initialized with 2048 bit key
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 WARNING: file '/etc/openvpn/keys/server.key' is group or others accessible
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 TLS-Auth MTU parms [ L:1592 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 TUN/TAP device tap0 opened
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 ifconfig tap0 10.8.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 broadcast 10.8.1.255
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1592 D:1450 EF:60 EB:135 ET:32 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 failed to find GID for group nobody
[21:06] <ivoks> don't past everything
[21:06] <moos3> Fri Dec 14 16:05:05 2007 Exiting
[21:06] <moos3> k
[21:06] <ivoks> group is nogroup
[21:08] <moos3> yeah I have that set as nobody:nogroup 644
[21:08] <ivoks> in config
[21:08] <ivoks> you have nobody as a group
[21:08] <ivoks> there's no such group
[21:08] <ivoks> there's only nogroup
[21:09] <moos3> ok that working
[21:09] <moos3> ok
[21:09] <moos3> cool I knew it was something dumb but it all look right
[21:09] <moos3> thanks for the help
[21:09] <ivoks> np
[21:10] <moos3> now to rdp to my windows box to make sure its gonna work
[21:10] <moos3> thanks again
[21:14] <ivoks> dendrobates: hello
[21:14] <dendrobates> ivoks: hello
[21:31] <jetole> hey guys, I want to make some changes to my server kernel but I would like to start with the configuration used by ubuntu and reconfigure and re make from there...
[21:31] <jetole> does anyone know how I can install the sources with the default ubuntu setup?
[21:43] <soren> jetole: The kernel source is in linux-source-2.6.22 (assuming gutsy). The kernel config is in /boot/config-*
[21:50] <jetole> soren: thanks
[21:53] <soren> jetole: np :)
[22:41] <Burgundavia> soren: do you know if anybody from the server team has poked APOC
[22:41] <Burgundavia> ?
[22:42] <soren> sommer: I think not.
[22:48] <Burgundavia> soren: was that directed at me?
[22:49] <soren> Er.. Yes, it was. I don't know what went wrong.
[22:49] <soren> Too many channels.
[22:49] <soren> This is the current status line of my irrsi: " [5:#ubuntu-server(+cns)] [Act: 3,4,7,12,15,16,20,64,81,178,183,188,194,210]"
[22:53] <Burgundavia> right
[22:53] <infinity> You may want to kill a few of those windows.  Just a thought.
[22:54] <jetole> how the hell do you have that many open?
[22:54] <jetole> I typically find 10 irc channels a little high for me
[22:54] <jetole> 6 - 8 seems about average
[22:55] <jetole> I am waiting for a kernel compile on a dual processor quad core 2.5Ghz and the damn thing still take forever
[22:55] <soren> infinity: What? why?
[22:56] <soren> I might miss someone talking about me!
[22:57] <jetole> soren: I think he means all those channels
[22:57] <soren> jetole: So do I?
[22:59] <infinity> soren: No one talks about you anyway.
[23:01] <soren> infinity: Oh, now I'm confused.
[23:01] <soren> Saying that noone talks about me is talking about me, so... I'm confused.
[23:02] <infinity> No, no, that was talking TO you.
[23:02] <infinity> Which I only do to reassure you that no one talks ABOUT you.
[23:02] <infinity> Otherwise, I do neither.
[23:03] <soren> That's right. They're not talking about me, _because I'm watching_. If I /part the channel... sheesh!
[23:03] <nealmcb> infinity: so does soren really have 210 channels open??  or am I forgetting irssi status line syntax?
[23:03] <nealmcb> :-)
[23:03] <soren> No, that sounds accurate.
[23:03] <infinity> nealmcb: He really has that many WINDOWS... Most are probably old queries.
[23:03] <soren> Well, 211.
[23:04] <nealmcb> soren: I wasn't talking to YOU!
[23:04] <soren> And a lot are queries.
[23:04] <soren> About 50/50, I think.
[23:04] <nealmcb> :-)
[23:04] <soren> Gah.
[23:04]  * nealmcb is enlightened
[23:05] <infinity> I find myself going on "old query reaping" runs every once in a while when I get close to 100 windows.
[23:05] <infinity> Of course, my status line isn't as scary, because I don't hilight on anything but chat/msg/action
[23:05] <nealmcb> soren: what's up with ebox these days?
[23:05] <infinity> So, no hilighting on joins/parts/etc.
[23:07] <soren> infinity: Nor do I.
[23:08] <soren> nealmcb: I'm not really on top of it right now. It's mostly upstream doing the work. I'll be getting closer to it in about a month, I think.
[23:10] <soren> infinity: I ought to be doing some old query reaping, but I remember what most of the window id's are. 194 is #linux-cluster, for instance. 123 is #aalborg, #188 is #ubuntu-x... It would suck to have to relearn that.
[23:10] <nealmcb> soren:  that's what I was figured - hoping they are on schedule
[23:11] <Burgundavia> as am I
[23:12] <nealmcb> 5 years of supporting hardy without a good popular gui would mean a lot more questions and lost opportunity...
[23:12] <Burgundavia> yep
[23:30] <jetole> soren: I don't care, keep as many open as you want ;)
[23:32] <soren> jetole: Will do :)