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sfearshotmail server is proally pop.hotmail.com00:00
sfearsincoming pop server under kontact prefs = pop.hotmail.com00:00
ardchoilleI always thought you needed to pay a fee for pop access with hotmail00:00
Flare183not with hotway00:00
sfearsmaybe00:00
ardchoilleAh, ok00:00
Flare183and hotwsmtp00:00
Flare183hotsmtp00:00
Flare183sorry00:00
Flare183!hotway00:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hotway - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:01
Flare183!info hotway00:01
ubotuhotway: POP3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8.4-2.2 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 192 kB00:01
ardchoilleFlare183: Try !info hotway00:01
ardchoilleyeah00:01
Flare183just did00:01
Evil_sfears: what would happen if I didn't unmount it and shutdown?00:01
sfearsshould unmount automatically.. you will need to remount on startup00:01
ardchoilleEvil_: file systems get unmounted during shutdown anyway00:02
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sfearsit's a good idea to unmount drives while your not using them though00:02
sfearsmabey not a good idea to unmount.. but not a bad idea00:02
sfearsif it loses power for some reason in the middle of doing something could corrupt some files.. should really worry about it though00:03
sfearsshouldn't*00:03
Jyzygzel-why won't the sounds work in any of the KDE games00:03
sfearsshouldn't worry about it00:03
ardchoillesfears: The journal should help with that00:03
Jyzygzel-or any game i play00:03
Jyzygzel-sounds dont work00:03
KingzarMy harddisk can be accesed!00:03
danysfears: do u know how to enable "focus on mouse" ?00:04
sfearsgood to hear Kingzar00:04
Kingzarcan't!00:04
rance!32firefox00:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 32firefox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:04
sfearsnope.. not sure what that is00:04
Kingzarsorry can't00:04
Kingzardamn tildes00:04
danyis a way of window configuration00:04
ardchoilledany: Something like "focus follows mouse"?00:05
danythat you don't need to activate the window with a click..00:05
danyyeah00:05
danyI want that!00:05
danyhow?00:05
dany=)00:05
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sfearscompiz has a setting like that in there somewhere i think00:05
sfearsmouse focus or whatever.. in compiz00:05
ardchoilledany: alt+f2, type in kcontrol00:06
Kingzar$logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0,0) this is my message when i try to enter00:06
ardchoilledany: In kcontrol, go to Desktop > Window Behaviour and have a look at the Focus > Policy00:07
NDPTAL85Can you actually install from the Kbuntu KDE 4 LiveCD?00:07
sfearscan you install kubuntu from the kubuntu live cd?? is that your question? if so the answer is yes00:08
Jyzygzel-why can't i hear any sounds??00:09
NDPTAL85Yeah thats my question but this isn't the regular Kubuntu live cd. Its the one with KDE 4 on it00:09
NDPTAL85I loaded the CD fully and didn't see an option to install00:09
sfearsthere should be an install icon on the desktop00:09
NDPTAL85There wasn't00:10
sfearsyou booted from the cd?00:10
NDPTAL85Yes00:10
Evil_sfears: I can't download SP2 from linux, need IE00:10
NDPTAL85I could see the lovely KDE 4 desktop00:10
sfearsanyone know where the install file is on the live cd? i'm not sure00:10
ardchoillesfears: He means the KDE4 RC2 livecd00:11
sfearsSP2 Evil_?00:11
Evil_Service pack 200:11
sfearsohhh00:11
martijn81NDPTAL85: you have downloaded the lastest kde4 RC2 live-cd, this release does not come with installation support00:11
sfearsservice pack 2 is for windows00:11
sfearsit's an XP upgrade00:11
danyhaha thks 4all ardchoille00:11
ardchoilledany: yw :)00:11
Evil_Someone told me to download it to the partition and install it before the network drivers00:11
NDPTAL85martijn81: Ahhh. So I have to install regular Kubuntu and then install KDE 4?00:11
Evil_I thought you did, lol, sorry00:11
Evil_umm, wrong place >.>00:12
Evil_lmao00:12
sfearsnope.. that's completely windows00:12
ardchoilleNDPTAL85: There's a link in the topic00:12
Evil_wrong person for that matter LMFAO00:12
killermachthe adept updater fails to install Gutsy to my Fiesty machine, some core dump regarding debconf,00:12
martijn81NDPTAL85: currenty: yes00:13
killermachlast update I did from Edgy to Fiesty someone gave me a command line to upgrade which worked..can someone help me w/ this? thanks00:13
BluesKajEvil_, gotta be in windows to DL XP-SP200:13
ardchoillekillermach: If you do it from command line, you'll end up missing things which are new t Gutsy but weren't in Feisty00:14
Evil_No way to get it to the NTFS partition from livecd? :(00:14
BluesKajEvil_ never heard of such a thing ...MS doesn't take kindly to browsers or DLmanagers on linux00:15
Jyzygzel-why apt-get install iceweasel not work?00:15
killermachardchoille: ok.. I have 7.10 CDROM, can do a full install, but I need some pointers on migrating my current settings to the new install..any tips?00:15
Jyzygzel-i need a browser00:15
Evil_lol, k, thanks for all the help guys :)00:15
BluesKajJyzygzel-, use konqueror00:16
martijn81Jyzygzel-: there is firefox00:16
Evil_BluesKaj:  I need ActiveX00:16
Jyzygzel-ic00:16
ardchoillekillermach: What I did was back up $HOME and then copy desired files back into the new system. Seemed to work ok here.00:16
dylan_killermach: make sure you use the same user and group ID (not just name) on your new system for each user, or you'll have a lot of difficulty in transferring things.  create the users in the same order and you should generally have identical UID/GIDs.00:17
BluesKajEvil_ if ya wanna play activeX platform games , do it on a windows installed partition00:17
Kingzarcan you setup Kontact with hotmaiL!?>?00:18
BluesKajKingzar, set hotmail to send your hotmail email to k-mail ...It's easy to do with gmail , but I've never used hotmail00:20
martijn81Kingzar: i believe only if you sign up for a paid service00:20
BluesKajwho would pay for hot mail anyway ?00:21
martijn81there was a tool for it under windows though, libpopper3 or something like that,  can't remember anymore....00:21
killermachardchoille: thanks00:21
Kingzaralright i read some google too you have to pay indeed for pop300:21
ardchoillekillermach: yw00:21
martijn81indeed, there is gmail00:21
killermachdylan_: cool, make the users in the same order.. got it00:21
Kingzarso whats by far the best Clock widget?00:21
Kingzarkclock?00:21
BluesKajnope Kingzar , not true00:21
abdullaBluesKaj, i have hotmail , and what can i do now everybody knows my hotmail if i change services just to recieve my email to evoloution or thunderbird i would lose all my friends00:22
ardchoille!info styleclock | Kingzar00:22
ubotukingzar: styleclock: a themeable replacement for KDE's clock applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 272 kB, installed size 684 kB00:22
dylan_killermach: ive had nightmarish situations trying to transfer files but also wonderfully simple ones when i followed that rule.  also make _sure_ you dont put them on a non-linux filesystem for backup if you want to preserve the permissions - otherwise everything will be executable, and youre lucky if thats the only issue you have.00:23
Jyzygzel-how do i map my mouse thumb button to do stuff?00:23
abdullais theyr a way to transfer ? BluesKaj ? or maybe tell me if i can get hotmail to my thunderbird app ?00:23
killermachdylan_: a "non-linux system"? people still have those?? :)00:24
abdullaJyzygzel-, you want to make the side buttons for back forward in firefox right?00:24
Jyzygzel-yea00:25
dylan_killermach: some of us play games, you know.  wine and cedega arent up to par for most of em.00:25
Jyzygzel-i have to find them to Alt + Left + Left00:25
Jyzygzel-and Right00:25
PasteL OpenArena rooooooooox00:25
Jyzygzel-i jsut don't know how00:25
abdullaJyzygzel-, i dunno if theyr is an app to do this , but i was wondering myself , i think the only binding place for things like mouse keyboard will be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , go fo kdesudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:25
dylan_killermach: and watch out, cuz external hard drives come formatted fat32, even if theyre WAY too big for the fat32 specification.  they just force format em.  :-P00:25
Jyzygzel-nah it does not work00:26
ardchoillePasteL: And it's in the repos :)00:26
abdullaPasteL, OpenArena is multiplayer?00:26
killermachdylan_: yep just showed my cousin how to setup world of warcraft  on wine.. well actually we googled up an ubuntu forum :)00:26
Jyzygzel-the xorg.conf if complete waste of time00:26
Jyzygzel-u never know what to write there00:26
dylan_killermach: hows the performance, compared to on windows on the same comp?00:26
abdullai know but i guess if you google you will know , i havent googles yet im lazy about this issue since 8 months now00:26
ardchoilleJyzygzel-: There is a nice cinfigurator to help with xorg.conf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg00:26
abdullaardchoille, OpenArena similar to Quake3 CPMA?00:26
dylan_killermach: ie whats the fps in shattrath?  ;)00:27
killermachdylan_: good advice.. I reformat mine ext3 to avoid infections  from peoples winboxes00:27
ardchoilleabdulla: No idea00:27
Jyzygzel-but it wont configure my mouse buttons00:27
abdullahow many MB? ardchoille00:27
ardchoilleJyzygzel-: Ah, ok.00:27
dylan_killermach: its also good for privacy since windoze doesnt recognize even ext2 ^.^00:27
BluesKajhotmail doesn't do forwarding and pop , then keep your hotmail if you don't want to lose your contacts ...it's not so hard to bookmark your hotmail acct on om your browser toolbar00:27
ardchoilleabdulla: apt-cache policy openarena00:27
hdevalencehow do I tell konqueror to not play music or animations?00:27
ardchoillehdevalence: On websites?00:28
hdevalenceardchoille: Yeah.00:28
killermachdylan_: well it would not be a fair comparison, he went from a celeron 900Mhz 512MB w/ winxp home, to Kubuntu Gutsy on an X2 dual core 4100+ 2.1Ghz w/ 2GB RAM, so it runs better period :)00:28
abdullaardchoille, apt-cache search / policy havent shown me the file zie00:29
ardchoillehdevalence: Sounds lke you may have flash installed00:29
BluesKajflash and java00:29
hdevalenceardchoille: It's not flash00:29
abdullawho played OpenArena here?00:29
abdullais itmultiplayer?00:29
ardchoilleabdulla: apt-cache show openarena00:29
killermachdylan_: I use knoppix to get files off winbox to external HD then a read only ext2 driver for winbox to xfer files back to winbox from ext hd00:29
hdevalenceit's animated GIFs and an mp3 file00:29
BluesKajI tried it for 10mins one day00:30
dylan_killermach: what RO driver?  got a link?00:30
ardchoillehdevalence: Not sure on gif's and mp3's00:30
abdulladoes it have online play BluesKaj00:30
BluesKajyup00:30
dylan_killermach: and in case you didnt know ubuntu 7.10 has built-in RW support to FAT32/NTFS :)00:30
killermachcool00:30
abdullacheck out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img3300:31
theunixgeekWhat distro has the default GNOME desktop and apps without customization?00:31
BluesKaj<----not a gamer , but it seemed cool enuff, abdulla00:31
Kingzarhow do you enable kweather00:31
dor0here we go00:31
Kingzaron desktop?00:31
dor0yeah, thats much better00:31
BluesKajtheunixgeek, ubuntu00:31
theunixgeekBluesKaj: without customization00:31
dor0Konversation is better that xchat, at least thats my opinion00:31
dylan_theunixgeek: slackware :-P00:32
BluesKajwhat do you mean customization ?00:32
ardchoilleKingzar: Right click the panel, choose Add applet to panel, find the Weather Service applet and add it00:32
theunixgeekBy no customization, I mean having this as the default desktop look: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/figures/rnintroduction-screenshot.png00:32
ardchoilleKingzar: Sorry, it's weather report00:33
BluesKajgnome is gnome , you choose your apss afterwards00:33
BluesKajapps00:33
Kachnahey guys,anyone ran WoWarcraft on intel graphics?00:33
abdullai think he means Xubuntu BluesKaj  theunixgeek www.xubuntu.org00:33
theunixgeekabdulla: nono By no customization, I mean having this as the default desktop look: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/figures/rnintroduction-screenshot.png00:33
abdullathis is not default theunixgeek00:34
BluesKajI see , he thinks gnome is a customized desktop :)...ahh Okaaaaay00:34
theunixgeekabdulla: yes it is, according to the GNOME website :P00:34
BluesKajyou can customize it00:34
abdullanot default theunixgeek but he changed hes appearance yes its with the system00:34
abdullabut if you want to customize you can from gnome-look.org00:35
BluesKajtheunixgeek, ten you should be chatting in #xubuntu00:35
theunixgeekBluesKaj: Xubuntu? why? :P00:35
ardchoilleor #ubuntu00:35
theunixgeekardchoille: I was already there.00:35
theunixgeekno help :P00:35
KingzarHow do you set it on your desktop as a widget instead of in my taskbar?!?00:35
danywerep00:36
abdullacheck out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img3300:36
theunixgeekhttp://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/ this is the default GNOME desktop. What distro has that as the default?00:36
ardchoilletheunixgeek: This channel isn't really set to help with the gnome desktop. if you didn't get help in #ubuntu, try the ubuntu forums.00:36
abdulla:P00:36
theunixgeekardchoille: sorry; I've been trying all around :P00:36
Kingzardamn your desktop looks nice00:37
Kingzarcan you tell me your widgets?00:38
Kingzarabdulla:00:38
abdullaget them they are screenlets Kingzar00:38
ardchoille!info screenlets00:38
ubotuPackage screenlets does not exist in gutsy00:38
Kingzartheir names?00:38
abdullaKingzar, do you have screenlets?00:38
ardchoilleKingzar: I know that there are several weather and system themes for superkaramba00:39
abdullais superkaramba like screenlets ardchoille00:40
abdullabtw ardchoille do you use katapult?00:40
BluesKajwindows desktops mostly00:40
ardchoilleKingzar: http://tinyurl.com/2z3x2k00:40
abdullaKingzar, all the custom widgets you will find here http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=165&PHPSESSID=b5b2c7f0486054630e4ece0eea31ded600:41
ardchoilleabdulla: superkaramba is very similar to those screenlets, yes00:41
abdullaKingzar, if you dont have screenlets , get screenlets after that you can go for custom widgets00:41
abdullaKingzar, http://www.screenlets.org/00:42
abdullayou use katapult ardchoille00:42
abdulla?00:42
ardchoilleabdulla: No00:42
abdullado you knwo what it is arch00:42
Kingzari have superkaramba but i can't configure settings there :S00:42
abdullaardchoille,00:42
ardchoilleabdulla: yes, but I do't use it00:42
abdullathen Kingzar get screenlets read my above posts i have posted 2 links now00:42
Kingzarmy taskbar doesn allow me to move the panels arround whatś mixed00:43
Kingzarwhat would be a good site for widgets for superkaramba?00:44
Daemon--whats that 3d program that has cool 3d effects for the desktop?00:45
cheguevaracompiz00:45
Daemon--thats it, thanks, i can install it through my package manager i presume?00:45
kub^daemon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion is a nice guide00:46
Daemon--thank you :)00:46
cheguevara!compiz00:46
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion00:46
abdullaKingzar, http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=3800:46
ardchoilleKingzar: http://tinyurl.com/2z3x2k00:47
abdullalol an apple fraud00:48
ardchoillelol00:48
abdullai think you can do it better ardchoille00:48
blizzzekgn800:48
abdullayou know with gnome you can hack the panel to act like apple , can kde do the same or you just tick the MAC os X feature?00:48
ardchoilleabdulla: Yes, I use the feature of kde00:49
Kingzari cannot seem to move my systray around.. is there a reason for this?00:49
abdullaso its still not 100 % yet00:49
ardchoilleKingzar: Just to the left of the systray, there should be a small bar that you can grab and move the systray00:50
Kingzarproblem is it doesn appear00:50
abdullaif you tried apple .. you will know what i mean, but if you tried a Gnome hacked panel ( apple customization ) you will not notice00:50
ardchoilleKingzar: right click the panel, configure panel > appearance > Advanced options button > Applet handles00:51
Kingzarthatś it! thank you00:52
ardchoilleyw00:52
danyardchoille: do u know a mixer software ?00:55
KingzarMy superkaramba widgets only stay on 1 desktop of the cube00:56
Kingzarhow can you set it to be fixed on all four00:56
ardchoilledany: I don't use sound, but I know there is mkix or alsamixer00:56
ardchoille*kmix00:56
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danyardchoille: there is the thing.. i downloaded a mixer software but there are several files and I'm suppouse to compile them but, there are few development tools that I should have in order to compile the software (sorry about my english)00:59
danymay I paste the list here?00:59
ardchoille!pastebin | dany01:00
ubotudany: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:00
danyardchoille: I already paste it..01:04
ardchoilledany: Can you give me the link please?01:05
danyhttp://bpmdj.yellowcouch.org/setup.html01:05
KingzarMy superkaramba widgets only stay on 1 desktop of the cube how can you set it to be fixed on all four01:06
ardchoilledany: I'm afraid I can't help with comiling software, I haven't had to do it i years01:07
linuxmceI have a couple of sata drives I am wanting to add.  Not sure what setting to use for them.01:07
godzeroHow do I revert to konqueror as my file manager? If I click on a folder, or plug in my MP# player - dolphin launches. I hate it. I want my Konqi back.01:08
danyis for advanced users?01:08
linuxmceThey will be part of my linuxmce box - do I make the EXT3?01:08
godzeroMP# = MP3. oops01:09
KingzarIs it possible to keep my widgets on all of my desktops?01:09
Kingzarif i go to another desktop01:09
Kingzarwidget gone01:09
linuxmceWhen adding new SATA drives what type should they be? EXT3?01:10
godzeroI'd use ext3, only because it's stable and well supported.01:11
linuxmceWhat about the mnount point? Just \01:11
godzerolinuxmce: Sorry. I steped in in the middle of your question. What is you user case?01:12
linuxmceI added two sata drives to a LinuxMCE box - just going to use them for storage for audio / video01:12
godzeroI'd mount them in /mount or /mnt01:13
wintermute_any out there have a Toshiba Satellite A215?01:13
linuxmceboth of them?01:13
linuxmceas /mnt01:13
linuxmcethey don't have to be different names?01:13
PasteL[22:25] <abdulla> PasteL, OpenArena is multiplayer?01:15
linuxmcegodzero: DO they have to be different names?01:15
PasteLhahahahahahaha01:15
godzero"/mnt/sda1 and /mnt/sda2 for example. If you have other drives that are not PATA - you might want to mount them as /mnt/sata1 and /mnt/sata2. The name is anything that makes sence to you"01:16
linuxmceok01:16
godzerolinuxmce: I use /mount/external_101:17
linuxmceThere internal drives :)01:18
godzero:)01:18
linuxmcewhat about the mount point though:01:18
godzero?01:18
godzeroyou can mount the thing as a subdirectory in any existing directory, even /etc/my_stuff is legal01:19
dor0guys, there is any applet to show me the network connexions in tray bar like in windows?01:20
godzerobrb01:20
linuxmceI guess I just don't understand. Mount Points, Type, Device - I need to put stuff in there and If  I don't  it ask me to add loops01:20
wintermute_mine already does off a fresh install01:20
godzerolinuxmce: First step is to plug it in, and format it. I suggers using "qtparted" to format it. Install it. Power down. Plug in your drives. power up, login. run qtparted. Format your new drives (they should stick out like sore thumbs in the left pane). Write down thier paths (like: /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd) on a piece of paper, and come back.01:29
linuxmceThe drives are plugged in and I know what they are - I just don't know how to start qtparted01:30
godzeroinstall qtparted, alt-f2, kdesu qtparted.01:31
linuxmceI think it is installed already01:31
linuxmceor not01:31
linuxmcehow do I install01:31
godzeropress "ALT-F2", type "kdesu qtparted" in the box. Enter your password.01:32
linuxmcesounds the command not found01:33
linuxmceso must not be installed01:33
jhutchinsUm, we're not trying to run qtparted from the drive we're working on, are we?01:33
linuxmceno01:33
jhutchinsoh, good.01:33
linuxmcejust tryint to install it - don't know how01:33
jhutchinslinuxmce: apt-get install qtparted01:33
linuxmcety01:34
jhutchinslinuxmce: or better sudo aptitude install qtparted01:34
jhutchinsYou'll need sudo in any case.01:34
godzeroto install: open the konsole, type "apt-get update" press enter. ***password**. Wait.  Type "apt-get install qtparted". press "y" anytime it asks.01:34
jhutchinslinuxmce: So what are you installing it to?01:34
jhutchinsgodzero: sudo01:34
godzeroooh, sorry01:34
Kingzaranyone know how to keep widgets on background while using cube 4 faces?01:35
jhutchinsI forget too, learned on other distros.01:35
godzeroto install: open the konsole, type "sudo apt-get update" press enter. ***password**. Wait.  Type "sudo apt-get install qtparted". press "y" anytime it asks.01:35
jhutchinsKingzar: There's a #compiz channel.01:35
godzerojhutchins: engineer's syndrome01:39
linuxmceOK - got it installed - now do I make it an extended partition?01:39
godzerolinuxmce: what do you want? 1 big space, or several smaller spaces?01:40
linuxmceBig Space - It will hold the DVDS that I rip - it's 500GB01:40
godzeroprimary partition (and I didn't need to know that).01:41
godzero1 big partition01:41
linuxmceok01:41
linuxmceand use ext301:41
godzeroyes, If only used in a Linux environment.01:42
linuxmceyes01:42
godzeroext3 it is, then01:42
linuxmceDo I have to format it after I create the partition?01:42
godzeroyes01:42
godzeroa few seconds is all01:43
linuxmceIt is saying that it is a virtual partion01:44
linuxmceah - nevermind -01:44
linuxmcegotta commit first :)01:44
godzeroIt's inside of a primary partion (I think). Id go ahead and erase the thing, and start again. I should only take a minute.01:45
godzerocommit.. yes01:45
jhutchinsWith linux you don't need silly extended partitions.01:46
godzeroSo..... Does anyone know how to kill dolphin?01:46
linuxmceThanks guys - I appreciated - just added another 900GB to my box.01:46
godzerolinuxmce: sweet01:46
maybeway36I would go "killall dolphin" in the Alt+F2 window01:46
linuxmceWhat is that?01:47
godzeroI had that comming.01:47
godzeroDolphin is the new file manager. I hate it. I want konqueror back as my primary file manager.01:47
maybeway36Alt+F2 and type "kcmshell filetypes"01:48
maybeway36w/ out quotes01:48
maybeway36Then go to inode>folder01:48
maybeway36move Konqueror to top01:48
SlynderdaleI'm currently dual booting Windows and Linux. The problem is, I don't have a working CD drive with boot support. I want to reformat my current linux install and install Ubuntu/Gutsy Gibbon instead. How can I do this without a boot/live CD?01:48
maybeway36Slynderdale: try UNetBootin01:48
maybeway36or whatever its called01:49
maybeway36It's like the mini.iso Ubuntu installer w/out a CD01:49
maybeway36install it from Windows01:49
godzeromaybeway36: Thanks, but inode does not have "folder"01:50
maybeway36hmm01:50
godzerokubuntu AMD6401:50
maybeway36oh its called "directory"01:50
Max-PHi, how can I install RandR 1.2 (1.1 installed, using feisty)01:51
maybeway36Slynderdale: do inode>directory and inode>system_directory01:51
maybeway36no not you01:51
maybeway36i mean godzero01:51
maybeway36gah im so confused01:51
godzerofound it. Thanks. I looked and looked....01:52
maybeway36i did that too01:52
maybeway36i like konqueror in kde3 so much better01:52
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godzerothe right pane is just the right-click menu, but 100X bigger, and doesn't go away. [DEL] [DEL] [DEL] [DEL]..... i'M NOT HAPPY WITH IT.01:54
godzerooops01:55
godzerocaps lock too close to shift01:55
danyardchoille: still there?01:55
limachi01:56
ardchoilledany: yes01:56
godzerohi01:56
danyMan.! i suck haha I cant even install firefox01:56
maybeway36sudo apt-get install firefox01:57
danyx)01:57
danyi'll tr01:57
danytry*01:57
maybeway36dany: or, for more traditional install, "sudo aptitude install -R firefox"01:57
maybeway36doesn't add some GNOME integration components01:57
harryhello all01:58
godzerohey01:58
harryi have a question, can someone help me please?01:58
godzero?01:58
danydany@:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox01:58
danysudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()01:58
godzeroouch01:58
limacwell, if I run a video on youtube and then another, and then another, and so on, but after a while, the firefox window doesn't respomd and i have to terminate it over and over01:58
harryi want to add more irc servers to mykonversation client (kde) how does it function?01:58
limacterminate the progam i mean01:59
limac:?01:59
maybeway36harry: press F2 and click New...01:59
godzerolimac: get a faster proc?01:59
harryok but where do i get the adress of the server?01:59
Slynderdalemaybeway36: Hmm, are you familiar with UNetBootin at all?01:59
ardchoilledany: I would recommend you posting that unable to lookup  via gethostbyname() problem on http://ubuntuforums.org01:59
maybeway36not really02:00
leexkde4 rc2 session will not start (followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php)02:00
maybeway36the mini.iso i have used in the past02:00
danyi'll do it.. thks ardchoille02:00
leexanybody having probs starting a kde4 session?02:00
godzerodany: and provide your ISP and general location ("I'm in Maine" or some-such)02:01
ardchoilledany: Br sure to include asmuch info as you can, will help others help you :)02:01
danyardchoille: this trouble about firefox is not that complicated.. may be i'm doing something wrong02:02
theunixgeekHow do I access my Linux partition on a Mac?02:02
Kingzarwhat option do i need to add to my user, so i can acces NTFS disk?02:02
ardchoilledany: Are you able to apt-get anything?02:02
danyardchoille: I downdloaded and extracted the tar file02:02
ardchoilledany: via an apt-get or aptitude command?02:03
godzerotheunixgeek: You don't afaict. Macs don't do EXT2/3. Ant Mac-heads in the house?02:03
godzeroant02:03
godzeroany02:03
danyjust with "clicks"02:04
adamonline45Is there a way to restart my mouse?  The problem I have is that on wake from suspend, and possibly other times, my mouse scroll wheel doesn't work...02:04
leexworthless ...02:04
danyright click.. extract to..02:04
danyhehe02:04
Kingzarwhat option do i need to add to my user, so i can acces NTFS disk?02:04
ardchoilledany: What I meant is I think your package manager has issues that need to be resolved. Posting that gethostname problem on ubuntu forums might help with that.02:04
danyardchoille: ok, I'll wait for their answer02:05
danythks anyway02:05
limacgodzero: wat do u mean?02:05
danyx)02:05
adamonline45Can someone send me a message so I can check out my highlight color?02:07
Minataku!ping > adamonline4502:08
Minatakulol02:08
Minatakuadamonline45: That work?02:08
KingzarSooo close02:08
Kingzarwhat are the permissions to enter ntfs disk?02:08
adamonline45cool ty 8)  Yes, indeed ty!02:08
MinatakuSorry, I just used the bot in a fit of semi-laziness.02:08
MinatakuXD02:08
Minatakuadamonline45: Cool.02:08
Minataku:)02:08
Minataku002:08
MinatakuOops02:09
Minatakulol02:09
Kingzarnobody ?! :S02:09
adamonline45hehheh... So, are there any maKbookers here whose brains I could pick?02:09
Minataku!ntfs02:11
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE02:11
godzerojhutchins: How long have you been on #kubuntu (historicly)? I have been here in a few years.02:12
jhutchinsUm, I'd say two or three years, probably.  Off and on.02:13
jhutchinsProbably not more than two, I installed right about when Feisty came out.02:13
jhutchinsBeen running Linux since like RH2.1 though.02:13
godzerolimac: Oh, never mind. Just a joke (lame, I guess)02:14
limacgodzero; so how can I fix that problem?02:14
godzerolimac: no, I don't use firefox02:14
killermachardchoille: is there a good backup app in kubuntu  that I can use to copy my home dir to my external drive02:14
limacgodzero; then wat do u suggest i use?02:15
sfearsyou don't need a backup app to copy your home folder02:15
sfearsjust copy your home folder02:15
godzerojhutchins: s/ I have been here in a few years. /  I havn't been here in a few years.  oops02:16
alesanI am getting crazy, what should I install to have the java plugin in firefox on 64bit?02:17
godzerojhutchins: Are all the devs asleep/out. Seems like they were around more back then.02:17
ardchoillekillermach: I just use tar: cd /home && tar cjf /desired/path/backup.tar.bz2  $(whoami)02:17
alesanI have sun jdk, iced tea, now I am trying with j2re blackdown02:17
limacgodzero: do u no, how i can enable the flash-player plugin for konqueror?02:18
limac???02:19
godzerolimac:02:19
tekteenlimac: I think the command "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" does it02:19
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limacbut doesn't that do it for firefox?????02:20
godzerolimac: The flash plugin should "just work" from what I'm told. I don't know bacause I'm running 64 bit, and I refuse to use 32 bit software. Are you using 32 or 64 bit?02:20
tekteenlimac: both02:20
limac32 bit02:20
limachow can i get the 64 bit one???02:21
tekteenit also should work for opera02:21
Kingzar!ntfs-3g02:21
limacjust curious02:21
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:21
tekteen!flash64 | limac02:21
ubotulimac: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:21
godzeroflash is 100% NOGO in 64 bit, on any platform02:21
limactekteen: how can i get the 64 bit version of an os?02:21
limacos (operating system) :)02:22
tekteenlimac: kubuntu? windows?02:22
tekteenlimac: kubuntu has it online under the 32bit one02:22
limactekteen: kubutnu02:22
tekteenlimac: I answered above ^02:23
Kingzar!ntfs02:23
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE02:23
limactekteeen: but how can i get the 64 bit version? online or what?02:23
limacor i cant????02:23
tekteenlimac: I will give a link. do u want alternative install cd or the normal live cd?02:23
limactekteen: normal one02:24
tekteenlimac: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso02:24
limactekteen: wat do u mean by "alternative install cd"?02:24
tekteenlimac: there is a text based install cd02:25
godzerolimac: First, you have to make sure your proc can do 64 bit. But the big question is "why would you want to?". I do because I'm like that. Third party support is better in a 32 bit environment.02:25
ardchoillelimac: The alternate cd is a text-based install cd, the dekstop cd is a live environemnt with an option to install to hard drive02:25
limacbut i have an intel celeron m proc02:25
godzero32 bit02:25
limacprobably02:26
limacnot sure tho02:26
limacactually yeah its 32 bit02:26
tekteenI am too lazy to install kubuntu again but I will not install kubuntu 64 till 7.1002:26
ardchoillelimac: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php02:26
tekteen:-)02:26
godzeroRight now, 64 bit is a little pain-in-the-@$$. I don't mind. It could be worse, I could be running Vista 64... and I have... it's bad.02:27
Kingzar!avi02:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:27
Kingzar!xvid02:27
tekteengodzero: true02:27
limacardchoille; i actually have that one installed! thnx for the effort tho! :D02:28
tekteen!botabuse | Kingzar02:28
ubotuKingzar: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.02:28
t3hwiz0rdcan anyone help me out with compiz fusion?02:29
godzeroubotu fortune02:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:29
t3hwiz0rdi've got it installed, but its not showing window decorations02:29
ardchoille!info fortune02:29
ubotuPackage fortune does not exist in gutsy02:29
godzeroThat's just wrong02:29
tekteen!ask | t3hwiz0rd:02:29
ubotut3hwiz0rd:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:29
tekteent3hwiz0rd: install ccsm02:29
ardchoillegodzero: apt-cache search fortune02:29
t3hwiz0rdcssm is installed02:30
godzerofortune | cowsay02:30
tekteent3hwiz0rd: then click alt+F2 then type ccsm02:30
t3hwiz0rdokay its open..02:30
tekteent3hwiz0rd: also02:30
tekteendo the same thing except type02:31
tekteencompiz --replace02:31
t3hwiz0rdi did that02:31
t3hwiz0rdstill, no themes02:31
tekteenok02:31
tekteendo u have 3d drivers?02:31
t3hwiz0rdyup, those are workin02:32
tekteenwhen u typed compiz --replace did the window borders diapear for a sec02:32
t3hwiz0rdyes and they never came back02:32
limacanyone here has any experience with "labtec"?02:32
tekteenok02:32
godzerolimac: not me02:33
tekteent3hwiz0rd: install emerald02:33
t3hwiz0rdits installed02:33
t3hwiz0rdit simply has NO themes in it02:33
tekteengo to the k menu02:33
t3hwiz0rdk02:33
tekteenand open the emerald theme manager02:33
t3hwiz0rdopen02:34
t3hwiz0rdit finally downloaded my themes02:34
tekteent3hwiz0rd: ok02:34
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tekteencan u select one?02:34
t3hwiz0rdtekteen: but its still not showing any02:34
t3hwiz0rdwell its not doin anything :-(02:34
t3hwiz0rdwindow decs are still gone02:34
limacgodzero: still i can't get the flashplayer in youtube...... there like this grayish box replacing where the video is played02:34
tekteentype alt F2 then type kwin --replace02:34
t3hwiz0rddone02:35
waltercool_eeesomeone know how select main screen with dual monitor??02:35
tekteenthat stops compiz but lets u have windows again02:35
tekteenI am not sure what the problem is02:35
jac0bwhat repo do i add so I don't have to use the cd02:35
rootlimac: I can't help you. I don't kno02:35
tekteent3hwiz0rd: what command did u use to install compiz02:35
limacroot: no prob02:36
tekteendid u install the kde version02:36
tekteenor the default version02:36
tekteenthe package compiz is for gnome02:36
t3hwiz0rdtekteen: i installed everything required from the wiki02:36
rootIt's good to be root.02:36
t3hwiz0rdand yes i installed compiz-kde as well02:36
tekteenok02:36
tekteenI do not know02:36
tekteensorry02:36
limacbtw since i have a intel celeron processor, is it possible for me to replace it with intel quad-cre or perhaps dual-core02:36
limac??02:36
adamonline45Can anyone help me understand the difference between 'styles', 'themes', 'colors', etc?  I'm trying to get my desktop lookin' how I want, but there are so many places to change things, and I'm getting weird results like dark-on-dark tabs and such...02:37
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tekteenadamonline45: styles=themes02:37
tekteenadamonline45: colors are part of themes02:37
tekteenadamonline45: or sometimes may change a theme02:38
ardchoilletekteen: Not always, a theme can mean a set of styles, icons, backgrounds to form a theme in theme manager02:38
hdevalenceI want to install KDE4 without installing KDE3.02:38
tekteenok02:38
hdevalenceon a fresh install02:38
limacanyine???02:38
tekteenthat is how the login manager works02:38
godzerotime for me to go. Take care all.02:38
tekteenhdevalence: that is hard02:38
hdevalenceshould I install a server, then install the kde4 packages?02:38
limacwhat is so great about kde4 that attrats people so much???02:39
hdevalenceor would I have broken dependencies?02:39
adamonline45ahh interesting... so a theme is kind of the central place to hold all the settings, color, etc...02:39
mox69_hdevalence:  i would just not install a window manager02:39
adamonline45Thank you 8)02:39
tekteenhdevalence: not the server02:39
mox69_hdevalence: uncheck gnome / kde when you are installing02:39
mox69_kdevalence: you should boot into a console02:39
mox69_then you just command line install kde402:39
hdevalenceI have the DVD that lets you do LiveCD/text/server/etc02:40
hdevalence'install in text mode"?02:40
tekteenhdevalence: u could install the minimal02:40
mox69_well i think that just runs the installer in text mode02:40
tekteenhdevalence: or cli mode02:40
tekteenhdevalence: then from the command line install kde402:41
ardchoilleMany people simply install the server and then build from there to custimse their install.02:41
hdevalencetekteen: good idea.02:41
tekteenhdevalence: I have never installed kde402:41
mox69_hdevalence: i guess the server idea isnt bad, just look over what gets installed02:41
db52theres a kde 4 kubuntu alpha iso out isnt there?02:42
hdevalencetekteen: i have a version on my laptop, but it's a mess with kde3/402:42
ardchoilledb52: See the topic02:42
hdevalenceand so i'm installing it on my old box02:42
hdevalencenot actually that old though.02:42
tekteenok02:42
tekteenI have no experience02:42
db52ardchoille: sorry im in kopete02:43
tekteenjust giving ideas02:43
ardchoilledb52: /topic02:43
ardchoille?02:43
wintermute_what is a good c++ ide aside from anjuta?02:43
hdevalencewintermute_:02:43
db52ardchoille: i see rc202:43
hdevalenceerr02:43
hdevalence!info kdevelop02:43
ardchoillewintermute_: kdevelop ?02:43
ardchoilledb52: That is the latest I believe02:44
tekteenwintermute_: eclipse02:44
t3hwiz0rd!compiz02:44
db52ardchoille: gotcha02:44
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 8840 kB, installed size 26992 kB02:44
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:44
t3hwiz0rdohh boy the bots lagging.02:44
hdevalenceheh02:44
ardchoillet3hwiz0rd: He's in many channels.. and working hard :)02:44
hdevalencebtw, once kde4 is released, what would be a distro where I could get a 'default' KDE4 install02:45
tekteenI think the bot deserves a snack02:45
wintermute_thank you02:45
tekteen!botsnack02:45
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:45
hdevalenceie no distro specifice customizations02:45
biovorekubuntu will have KDE4 (if released) for herron02:45
ardchoillehdevalence: I think you would be hard pressed to find a distro which doesn't customise their deksotp environments02:46
hdevalenceeg kubuntu changes the konqueror interface02:46
hdevalenceetc02:46
ardchoilleYeah02:46
hdevalencedebian? slackware?02:46
db52anyone know how to update the adblock filters in konquerer?02:47
biovorehdevalence: theres always LFS :-P02:48
hdevalencebiovore: what's LFS?02:50
biovorelinux from scratch02:51
db52how stable is the rc202:52
db52ahh im out of cds anyway02:53
killermachardchoille: I have installed gimp, blender, inkscape ect on my fiesty box, how can I get kubuntu to install them from a script?02:55
killermachso I don't have to hand pick them all again, including their add-ons02:55
ardchoillekillermach: use a bash script and add a line:  sudo apt-get install gimp blender inkscape02:56
killermachardchoille:  is there a way to get a list of what's installed from adept or the like?02:57
Rafabehi02:57
Rafabecan someone help me get Kubuntu installed?02:57
ardchoillekillermach: You can use a command to see what you have install via command line: history | grep install02:58
Rafabeduring the base install, I get an error on initramfs. It tries 5 times then continues...then I get another error later on. Checked the CD for defects, it's fine.02:58
killermachardchoille: what I'm looking for is like the RedHat kickstart of sorts02:58
ardchoillekillermach: There may be, but I am a cli fan so I wouldn't have used it.02:59
killermachok.. cool.. I can probly pick them about as fast as figuring this out, but it'd be cool to know02:59
t3hwiz0rdokay03:01
t3hwiz0rdi got it all working03:01
t3hwiz0rdbut im trying to set up desktop cube03:01
t3hwiz0rdnd when i do, it only gets 2 desktops??03:01
nevilleGo to general settings in the settings for Compiz03:02
EnsGabeIs anyone else having problems with konqueror and the recently updated flash plugin?  nspluginviewer keeps crashing on me03:02
nevilleAnd I think it's called Desktop size, or something like that03:02
killermachardchoille: trying this first.. apt-get -f dist-upgrade03:02
nevilleYou fiddle with the settings there, in order to get more than 2 faces03:02
t3hwiz0rdany ettings in specific?03:02
nevilleCan't remember off the top of my head, and I haven't got installed at the moment =]03:03
t3hwiz0rdcos rioght now i have a two-sided cube03:03
nevilleJust trial and error though, it's always fun =D03:03
killermachardchoille: I'll let you know how it goes command line upgrade from fiesty to gutsy03:05
t3hwiz0rdhmm still 2 desktops03:08
PsycoshotHey. What is the command to quit/stop a command?03:09
Psycoshotlike to quit kiba-dock03:09
cheguevaractrl c03:10
cheguevaraassuming you are running some from a terminal that is03:11
PsycoshotWhat I mean is.03:11
PsycoshotI started kiba-dock. (not in terminal)03:11
PsycoshotHow do I close it from terminal03:11
cheguevarakillall -9 kiba-dock03:12
PsycoshotTY03:12
cheguevaranp03:12
Ch1ppyhey, I'm having trouble with kopete saving changes I make.  For example, when I add someone to my contact list, the next time I restart that person is added to a folder "Not in your contact list", and keeps going back even if I move them to a folder and make sure they're on my list... can anyone help me out?03:13
t3hwiz0rdyay03:18
DragnslcrCh1ppy- is it an MSN contact?03:18
Ch1ppyDragnslcr: yep03:18
DragnslcrI know there's a bug with not being able to remove an MSN contact, so it may be related03:19
db52how do i disable join and leave notifications in kopete?03:19
DragnslcrCh1ppy- you can try checking with #kopete to see if it's a known issue03:19
Ch1ppyDragnslcr: mkay03:19
killermachardchoille: looks like it finished.. lemme reboot and see03:25
killermachardchoille: so far so good03:28
killermachit's installing my nvidia driver now03:29
killermachrestart again for that03:29
ardchoillekillermike: Good to hear, but no need to keep me updated :)03:31
abdullaCheck out my desktop guys and please rate http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/5/12/13/alsheeba/f_mydesktopm_582c78c.png03:31
killermachardchoille: so far so good.. I don't care for dolphin tho.. but else is good upgrade03:38
ardchoillekillermach: There is no need to keep me updated03:38
EnsGabeIs anyone else having problems with konqueror and the recently updated flash plugin?  nspluginviewer keeps crashing on me03:39
intelikey:)03:39
hydrogendolphin took a bit of getting used to03:39
hydrogenI'm fairly happy with it though03:39
hydrogendolphin4 is a whole lot nicer but thats a different story :)03:39
intelikeywhat is dolphin again ?03:39
hydrogenfilemanager03:39
ardchoille!dolphin03:39
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.03:39
killermachno just you anyone wanting to know, that the upgrade is worthwhile and smooth03:40
ardchoillekillermach: That's good to hear03:43
capricorihey all. could anyone guess as to why kubuntu keeps logging me out randomly? it's starting to get annoying...03:45
jhutchinsI here d3lphin has been essentiallyh abandoned in place and will not be developed further.  At best, it's good ideas may be merged into konqueror.03:46
jhutchins(where'd that stray h come from?)03:47
cheguevarajhutchins, konqueror uses dolphin for file management in kde 4 so...03:48
* intelikey hunts up the h remover for jhutchins 03:49
jhutchinscheguevara: Yeah, from what I've heard it sounds like they reached a revision stange and realized that to get to the next step towards release just wasn't worth it.03:49
cheguevarano point of developing kde3 software anymore anyway :P03:49
jhutchinsCould be apocryphal, I don't know, but I heard that it was dead stop on developing it.03:50
jhutchinscheguevara: Yeah, but d3lphin isn't kde3.03:50
cheguevarait is03:50
cheguevarad3lpin is kde303:50
cheguevaradolphin is kde403:50
jhutchinsAh, well it was dolphin I heard it about, not "as corrected by ubotu".03:50
jhutchinsBut, on the same hand, it could be that it's true of d3lphin and not dolphin, somebody got the rumor wrong.03:51
TravisHi I just put a hard drive in my server from my older server, the data on it is in a format called LVM2 MEMBER, because my old server was LVM, I just need to get the data off it for my new server? how do I go about this?03:52
cheguevaramost ppl just say dolphin talking about both of them03:52
intelikey"somebody got the rumor wrong."   surely you jest03:52
cheguevaraTravis, might want to go to #ubuntu-server03:52
Travischeguevara yea i did both cause this is the same procedure for kubuntu03:52
sylvisjhello people, I need some help with nvidia binaries03:55
sylvisjFollowed the instructions as per http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/hardware/C/video.html#nvidia, but /var/log/Xorg.0.log says that the nvidia driver can't find the kernel module03:55
sylvisjor rather, "failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!"03:56
jhutchinssylvisj: There's an #nvidia channel.03:56
sylvisjOk, will try over there.03:57
sylvisj"Ubuntu kernel module problem? Ask in #ubuntu"03:57
jhutchinsTravis: This is why LVM is evil.  You need the set, not just a member.03:58
intelikeysylvisj wrong version or not compatable with the hardware.03:59
sylvisjIt's compatible; GeForce 8800GTS, current stable driver release03:59
sylvisjHm, manually unloading and reloading the nvidia kernel module fixed it, odd04:00
intelikeycan't insert a kernel module that doesn't match the running kernel version, or that the hardware doesn't match     (last half is more dependant on the exact module)04:00
Travisjhutchins well i think the other drive failed or something (I don't have it)04:00
sylvisjWell, the thing is - the module was loaded04:01
Travismy task was getting the data off the one drive i do have recovered04:01
sylvisjunloading and reloading it seems to have solved this issue, which makes me wonder why04:01
intelikeyrace condition ?04:01
nevilleTry reinstalling the driver, then running sudo nvidia-xconfig -add-argb-glx-visuals --composite04:01
TravisLVM seems to worked great until something went horribly wrong and the LVM got messed up, now when I mount it says it's not formatted and that i should format the LVM volume with like ext304:02
neville--add-argb-glx-visuals --composite04:02
ndazzahi, i'm having trouble finding the jigdo files for the kubuntu gutsy DVD, i've googled and looked through cdimage.ubuntu.com but i'm not having any luck. does anyone know where it is?04:04
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ndazzawow, dead channel...04:11
stdinit's dead because kubuntu is so perfect no one needs support :)04:11
neville=/04:12
nevilleLies04:12
neville=]04:12
Dr_willisHot, sexy bot sweet-talks personal data out of chatters  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071214-hot-sexy-bot-sweet-talks-personal-data-out-of-chatters.html04:14
Dr_willisHmmmm... Ok! Whos the bot!04:14
Dr_willis:P04:14
* Dr_willis stares at ubotu 04:15
ndazzais there a dev channel for kubuntu?04:15
Dr_willisHmm Is ther a #kubuntu-dev ?04:15
ndazzanope, i tried that heh04:18
ndazzalooks like i might have found the jigdo images here http://mirror.in.th/ubuntu_cdimages/kubuntu/dvd/current/04:18
stdinndazza: I guess you didn't look at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/ ?04:21
EnsGabeIs anyone else having problems with konqueror and the recently updated flash plugin?  nspluginviewer keeps crashing on me04:23
ndazzastdin: that's for hardy, i'm looking for gutsy04:29
progmanos!find krandrtray04:40
ubotuFile krandrtray found in kcontrol, kdebase-dbg, kdebase-workspace04:40
raymanthere is a kubuntu channel04:53
raymanand to think i've been on freenode for awhile04:53
raymananyone around to help answer a (hopefully easy) question?04:55
stdinask it and see04:56
raymanhorray!04:56
raymanSo, I've been running kubuntu since 6.10 (nothing to  brag about, I know) on a thinkpad T42 (1.7 Pentium M, Radeon Mobility 9600..etc.). It was running fine and I even got beryl to work, although not in hardware..anyway...04:57
SlynderdaleIn gutsy gibbon, is there a way to keep the Ubuntu and Kubuntu applications seperate based on the current session your using?04:57
raymanwhen I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 using the website instructions it seems to be running in "software" mode now even with the fglrx driver04:58
edellinghamHey guys...long time Ubuntu user, first time Kubuntu user.  I'm quite familiar with KDE, I've ran KDE off and on since way before anyone thought of Ubuntu...I must say, you guys make straight Ubuntu look bad.  I swear, although I've ran Ubuntu with KDE...this seems more responsive, better apps included, system is literally easier to use by the way settings is placed...04:58
edellinghamVery, very impressed...04:58
raymanpictures are scrambled and it runs insanely slow04:58
edellinghamKubuntu should be the official release04:58
stdinrayman: you have to remove xserver-xgl, if it's installed it'll be used by default even if you don't choose it04:59
sleeperi cant upgrade from to gutsy04:59
raymanthrough apt?04:59
Daemon--is it possible to make the system request confirmation before deleting directories?04:59
sleeperi cant upgrade from feisty to gutsy05:00
ardchoilleDaemon--: rm -i file05:01
sleeperwhen i look at the apt.log at the end i have this05:02
sleeperPackage libc6-i686 has broken dep on libc605:02
sleeper  Considering libc6 11936 as a solution to libc6-i686 705:02
sleeper  Holding Back libc6-i686 rather than change libc605:02
Daemon--i mean if i do "rm file" it automatically asks for confirmation before deleiting the file incase you dont mean to. But when I do "rm -rf directory" it doesnt request confirmation but i would like it to05:02
mox69__daemon: remove the -f ....05:03
Daemon--right, the f means no confirmation then05:03
Daemon--thanks05:03
mox69__np05:03
Daemon--:)05:04
ardchoilleI've never seen rm -r ask before removing05:04
mox69__it doesnt?05:04
ardchoilleNot here05:04
mox69__then do rm -ri directory05:04
sparrsome systems, particularly multi-user servers, force -i on rm05:05
mox69__ahh05:05
ardchoilleAh, ok05:05
twylightis there a keystroke logger for kubuntu?05:06
sparrhell, ive used systems where rm was aliased to a 'mv [whatever] /tmp/trashcan/username'05:06
Dr_willissparr,  yep seen that befor also05:14
Dr_willisor a perl script that intercepts  bad typos :)05:14
raymanstdin: holy crap, i love you..well no, not quite that much but THANKS...oh so much, i can now enjoy kubuntu again05:15
edellinghamGot a question, I've just installed Kubuntu on my system.  I went through the updates that you'd expect from installing a new distro, and then it suggested I upgrade to Gutsy 7.10...which I'm confident I'm already running. .  I told it to go ahead and it started the process and now it's at the installing point...and sitting at 0%.05:20
edellinghamIs this normal?05:21
mactallahey all.  I made the mistake of updating.  Now I'm stuck with flash 115.  Does anyone know where I can get a .deb of the previous version (.85?)05:21
kakalto8.04 is an LTS release?05:21
ardchoillekakalto: Yes, Hardy will be the net LTS release05:22
kakaltoI hope they aren't putting kde4 in it?05:24
grahamHi all. New Kubuntu user here. And new IRC user as well. Am I doing the right things here?05:24
wintermute_You are in IRC so... yeah?05:25
wintermute_Welcome aboard05:25
stdinmactalla: enable gutsy-proposed, there's an updated (working) package in there05:25
stdinkakalto: no, kde3 in the LTS05:25
Tm_Tstdin ardchoille and kids o/05:26
* stdin waves to Tm_T05:26
mactallastdin: thx.  I'll try that.05:26
* mactalla goes off to find how to enable gutsy-preposed05:27
ardchoillehi Tm_T05:27
stdinmactalla: in adept, Adept → Manage Repositories → Updates tab → Proposed updates05:29
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tehm0nkhow do i get raid0 to work on kubuntu05:30
kakaltostdin: relieving to know :-)05:30
tehm0nki have universe and multiverse checked05:30
mactallastdin: I don't have 'proposed' but I have recommended, pre-released, and unsupported.  but according to my sources.list I do have proposed enabled.  Unfortunately I'm still getting the newest (broken) flash.05:31
tehm0nki got dmraid installed and mdadm05:31
tehm0nkthere is one more thing i need tho and a couple commands i have to run05:31
tehm0nkand i dont know where the link to the site i just see it on went05:31
tehm0nkwell it went down with my last attempt with ubuntu05:32
stdinmactalla: what version exactly?05:32
stdin!raid05:32
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto05:32
tehm0nkand there is my issue ubotu05:33
tehm0nki can't goto the web05:33
mactallastdin: 9.0.115 ... let me check the ubuntu versioning... one sec...05:33
tehm0nkwait omg its working this time05:33
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tehm0nki'm liking kubuntu already lol05:33
mactallastdin: flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.115.0ubuntu0.7.1005:38
stdinwith what browser?05:38
mactallastdin: konqueror05:38
tehm0nki know this sounds stupid but it's not really right there in my face on the site, how do i run something in terminal as room?05:38
tehm0nkroot*05:38
mactallastdin: if it's from proposed, you said, then  maybe I can get it back by disabling that one..05:38
mactallatehm0nk: sudo <cmd>05:38
ardchoille!sudo | tehm0nk05:39
ubotutehm0nk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:39
stdinmactalla: just removing the repository won't do anything, but after you do that just do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree=9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12"05:39
stdinmactalla: I think I saw a bug somewhere about it, seems nspluginviewer doesn't like the new flash05:40
Mar1eyhello05:40
mactallastdin: yeah, looking around it seems Adobe broke compatibility with Konq + Opera -- only testing with Firefox.05:42
Mar1eywould someone like to help me setup pppoe on kubuntu server install05:43
mactallastdin: mmm looks like it downloaded the wrong one.  I'll try to fudge my way around it...05:44
oobeMar1ey, why cant the router do the pppoe05:44
stdinmactalla: thinking about it, it won't matter what package you install. all it does is download the plugin from adobe and that's always the latest05:45
mactallastdin: yeah, I see that in the url it downloaded.  So now I just need to get my paws on a good version and make sure apt-get sees that to not try downloading it.05:46
Titanix88Hey im a newbie c programmer. But im having prblm with string related functions.05:48
stdinTitanix88: ##c05:49
stdinthen learn C++ and use std::string ;)05:49
Titanix88 wierd characters r appearing05:51
twylightuze prpr inglish plz05:51
wintermute_were you born in 1988 or are you a skinhead05:51
stdinI'd guess it's because your char arrays aren't null terminated, but you should really ask in ##c05:52
Titanix88The characters change as i chang encoding!05:52
naelrlooking for some help compiling a new kernel for my new laptop that doesn't like any of gutsy's kernels05:52
stdin!kernel05:52
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages05:52
naelryea been there and been sent there many times... 5 kernels later it still won't boot05:53
naelrwhat kernel is hardy running?05:53
Titanix88Ok,sorry for my english. All i need to know is howto set ascii encoding  in konsole.05:54
stdinsame as gutsy right now05:54
naelrwell that won't help05:54
naelronly kernel that boots is 2.6.20-14...05:54
naelroops I mean 2.6.20-1205:54
Titanix88Wintermute: that was harsh!:((05:55
tehm0nkthe page says to use mkfs but i get this error : mkfs.-ex3: No such file or directory05:55
stdintehm0nk: without the dot05:55
Titanix88##c05:56
fluidhello; anyone around? i installed the kde4rc2 packages.. and removed them; but now, kubuntu won't start... just a black screen. if i boot into recovery mood, and "startx" - it starts kde.. sometimes the monitor is jigging and jagging, but it never boots.. it just kicks you back out to a prompt; i'm guessing i need to re-install kde3, or change the default window m,anager.. anyone have any ideas??05:56
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tehm0nkOops! lol ty05:57
stdinnaelr: just install that kernel and boot from it, then make sure you report a bug against linux-source-2.6.22 with a description of your hardware and your problem05:57
stdinfluid: make sure you have kdebase-bin-kde3 installed05:57
tehm0nkwhich filesystem should i use for Root and which for Home?05:58
stdinext3 is probably the best for both05:58
tehm0nkok05:59
tehm0nkweird...05:59
tehm0nkthat dude has reiser on one05:59
hydrogenyou know you're no longer in #gentoo when that question can be answered without five minutes of discussion05:59
tehm0nkthat is why i asked05:59
tehm0nkyou know you're not in #ubuntu when you actually get heard?05:59
Tm_Thydrogen: :/05:59
stdinreiser is pretty much dead now, the maintainer got into a bit o'trouble05:59
tehm0nkahh06:00
tehm0nkokay06:00
tehm0nkwell i'm sorta new and sorta freaked out06:00
tehm0nki'm crossing my fingers that i dont kill vista :-P06:00
tehm0nkhaha06:00
Tm_Tvista?06:00
biovorevista is good at killing it's self..06:00
foibleshi there, would anyone know of a program that streams video?06:01
biovoredoesn't need help06:01
biovorevlc06:01
foiblesover the net to a friend, say06:01
biovorevlc can do it..06:01
foiblesbiovore: you dont say?06:01
Tm_Tvlc, Kaffeine, uhm, there's others but I always forget06:01
biovoreand it dosn't matter what OS.. vlc works on window,linux,mac06:01
biovorevlc is simple to do..06:02
foiblesbiovore, Tm_T: that is awesome06:02
foiblesi was totally unaware they could do that06:02
Tm_Tbiovore: you are again heavy promoting vlc aren't you?06:02
biovoremplayer can do transcoding and stuff like that as well..06:02
hydrogenvlc can act as a streaming server?06:02
biovorewell I use mplayer most of the time here..06:02
hydrogenI thought it was a client06:02
biovoreyes06:02
foiblesthis is the case, i was going to watch a movie, and a friend of mine hasnt seen it06:02
biovoreit can be a udp stream source..06:03
foiblesi was think maybe i can stream it and we can watch it at the same time06:03
hydrogennot unless you have a big fat internetpipe06:03
biovoreits 1->1 only though.. no multicast..06:03
tehm0nkhey ty guys for helping06:04
tehm0nkit took me HOURS to get where i did earlier06:04
foibleshydrogen: would it be slow for me to stream to a friend with vlc?06:04
tehm0nkto someone that doesnt know a lot about this stuff, you can read for days on google and not figure it out.06:04
foiblestehm0nk: yeah06:05
tehm0nki was trying to do ubuntu06:05
tehm0nkand06:05
tehm0nkwas in the respective channel. Bad idea.06:05
tehm0nk:-D06:05
pastrynesshow do i modify xorg.conf ?06:08
mactallaYES!  I have a flash that *works*!  (now, if ppl would stop making flash-only websites, life would be grand)06:08
mactallastdin: thx for your help.06:08
mactallaNow the million-dollar question is does Adept have a feature to let me ignore an update on a single file?06:08
stdinmactalla: umm, nope :p06:09
mactalla:P  guess I need to babysit the updates until Adobe gets their butt in gear.06:09
crush_groovemactella unless im mistaken . you can go to "preview" updates abd delte the update you dont want from there06:09
stdinmactalla: aptitude will let you "hold" a pacakge06:10
stdinI think (not sure) adept will respect that06:10
crush_groovewhats that command stdin ?06:10
mactallastdin: thx.  we'll find out in a minute!06:10
stdinaptitude hold <package>06:10
crush_groove ty06:10
sigma_my hdd light flashes every 10 sec's when the pc is idle (desktop not laptop) - i have two sata hdd's installed, is this anything to be worried about?06:11
crush_groovehdd06:11
sigma_crush_groove: was that for me?06:11
fluidhow do i reconfigure kde3 to be my default windows manager.. i installed kde4, and it went horribly wrong.. i unistalled kde4, and now kde won't start...06:12
sigma_oh and my sats hard drives - the 250gb one is two days old and the 80gb one is less than a year old06:12
crush_groovesigma ./no06:12
hydrogenfluid: at kdm choose kde3 instead of kde406:13
mactallaAdept still wants to upgrade after telling aptitude to hold it :-/  Oh well, at least it's working (for me... expect many more complaints as people get this "upgrade" sent their way!)06:13
chrisduffyIs there a way to get write access to a journaled HFS+?06:14
Titanix88Anyone know anyway around to get ascii encoding in konsole?06:16
sigma_oh has anyone here created a live cd of their current kubuntu installation? i saw a tutorial online, wondered if it would work, that would be a great tool for people doing multiple installs on the same type of machine06:16
Dr_willisim not sure the live cd makers ive seen - can do installs however.06:21
Dr_willisYou could use mondo/mindo to make a bootable 'restore' disk set.06:22
vasilisaWhy wont K3B rip dvds anymore? :( I used to turn it on and it would list dvd tracks, id select one and rip it. Now it plays a chord at me and flashes an error message so fast i cant see it, then simply lists the dvd's file structure. That is utterly worthless to me. Any ideas why this could be the case? Is it something to do with Gutsy??06:27
Dr_williscould be you need to install some extra packages.06:27
Dr_willisIve never used k3b to rip dvd's so cant tell ya much more then that.06:27
vasilisa:/06:27
stdintry installing movixmaker-2 and libk3b2-extracodecs06:27
vasilisaok one sec06:28
Dr_willis'kubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start. then proberly whatever dvd decrypter packages exist.06:28
sigma_vasilisa: do u want to rip them to avi or another dvd?06:28
vasilisarip to avi... libk3b2-extracodecs gets no hits.06:28
sigma_vasilisa: use acidrip, its in the repo's06:29
vasilisasigma_: acidrip's never worked for me... lets see...06:29
sigma_vasilisa: i use it, it works flawlessly06:29
sigma_vasilisa: what happened when you tried using it?06:29
twylighthmm this powder smells like cocaine06:30
vasilisasigma_: dont remember, baout to find out probably06:30
stdintwylight: ?06:30
twylightsshh06:31
vasilisawell for one thing its not dedtecting the dv06:31
vasilisad06:31
stdintwylight: don't post such irrelevant and stupid thing in here please06:31
mactallaTitanix88: what are you wanting with the encoding?06:31
vasilisahehe, this is a circumstance where i have to figure out which drive it is06:31
mactallasettings->encoding not what you're looking for?06:31
sigma_vasilisa: oh is the dvd path set to /dev/dvd?06:31
vasilisayeah06:32
sigma_vasilisa: because if it is thats probably wrong06:32
vasilisaok i found it06:32
vasilisaWhats the best audiocodec06:32
twylightmp306:32
vasilisalavc okay for video?06:33
sigma_vasilisa: yup works for me, actually all the default settings work just fine06:33
vasilisa*knows nothing about this...*06:33
Dr_willisanimated gif :)06:33
vasilisaokay06:33
vasilisaokay thats the problem06:33
vasilisai quick start and it just quits06:33
sigma_vasilisa: another window should pop up06:34
vasilisanope06:34
vasilisabut it is running in the processtable.06:34
vasilisa... so to speak06:34
vasilisado i have to queue it?06:35
sigma_vasilisa: when you entered your drive in the /dev/dvd space, what exactly came up when u clicked load?06:35
vasilisaA list of tracks06:35
vasilisanothing :(06:36
sigma_did u select the long track? thats the movie06:37
vasilisaYes, i did. track 1.06:37
vasilisai tried running it through the command line and it doesnt even give an error06:37
vasilisaExcept i did get a bunch of pango warnings06:38
sigma_rather weird, sure all the dependencies are installed properly06:39
vasilisawell im not ~sure~ no06:39
vasilisa:/06:39
vasilisaalmost never have em all >.<06:39
Dr_willisits like pokemon. :) you can never have them all...06:40
tehm0nksomeone wanna look at a screenshot of my install program something just doesn't look right... and it gives me an error....06:41
vasilisa;_; i wanna riiiiip06:41
vasilisai miss it06:41
vasilisak3b just worked flawlessly before.06:41
sigma_how did u install acidrip?06:41
vasilisaadd/remove programs06:41
Dr_willis!info acidrip06:41
ubotuacidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 308 kB06:41
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sigma_vasilisa: try using kpackage, uninstall it and download it manually from packages.ubuntu.com and install it06:43
sigma_make sure it uses kpackage to install it06:43
sigma_that will check that all dep's are properly installed06:44
stdinthat's why we have gdebi06:44
Dr_willissudo apt-get install acidrip      ?06:44
vasilisai just tried that06:44
stdinjust double-click a .deb and deps are checked automatically06:44
sigma_stdin: gdebi strains my poor hard drive06:45
vasilisak i give up...06:45
vasilisathanks guys :(06:46
sigma_stdin: sometimes i wonder what its doing, it also makes my pc's jam, amazingly only the intel ones!06:46
stdinworks fine here06:46
pastrynesshow do i set my default applications for different tasks? for example when i click on a folder i want it to open with krusader instead of Dolphin, and when i click on links i want them to open with firefox instead of konqueror... help please06:47
sigma_stdin: does it scan the database once or everytime it runs?06:47
stdinit uses apt, so every time I install a .deb06:47
sigma_stdin: but to be honest i like the feisty package installer better, wish it could be in gutsy06:48
stdinthat was just a xterm with dpkg -i :p06:48
Dr_willisthats what i was thinking. :)06:48
sigma_stdin: yeah kpackage only scans once and then remembers it06:48
pastrynessnobody? :(06:49
fignewpastryness: Under System Sttings --> KDE Components you can set some of those06:49
sigma_oh yes while u guys are here, how do u edit the context menu's in konqueror? (the one that comes up when u right click)06:49
fignewpastryness: I'm wondering why you would want to use Firefox over Konqueror though ;)06:49
sigma_fignew: konq is rather hopless as i learnt06:50
sigma_hopeless06:50
fignewhopeless?!?06:50
Dr_willisI perfer firefox :)06:50
sigma_yeah can't display half the websites i visit properly06:50
sigma_but i still like it for file browsing, id use it for web as soon as it gets as mature as firefox06:51
fignewsigma_: 1 sec about the context menus, I have a bookmark06:51
sigma_ok thanks06:51
fignewthat's strange... I'm an extremely heavy web browser and have abs. no problem with konq ;)06:52
* fignew bets you can't give an example where konqueror fails :)06:52
Dr_willisGuess they test your 'special'  sites with Konqueror? :)06:52
sigma_fignew: www.axiz.co.za, try navigate that site06:53
fignewsigma_: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html and http://legroom.net/2007/04/20/adding-custom-actions-kde-context-menus06:53
sigma_thanks06:53
fignewsigma_: LOL! it looks better in konqueror than in firefox!!06:54
Dr_willislooks the same here.06:54
sigma_fignew: yeah but the menu is missing in konq06:54
sigma_or at least it should be06:54
Dr_willisThe site designer needs to be slapped for making everything being in a popup/new window06:55
fignewmenu works for me :/06:55
Dr_williswhat menu? i see no menu06:56
fignewDr_willis: on the top06:56
sigma_fignew: you mean the dropdown menu at the top (horizontal one) works well for you?06:56
fignewsigma_: yes06:56
Dr_willisthat is missing in Konqueror here.06:57
sigma_yes thats what i was saying!06:57
Dr_willisheh, at the bottom right in konqueror. theres a little 'bug' in the  status bar.06:57
Dr_willissays 'this page contains coding errors'06:57
Dr_willisError: http://www.axiz.co.za/axiz/controls/SolpartMenu/spmenu.js: TypeError: Value undefined (result of expression Node.prototype.__defineGetter__) is not an object. Cannot be called.06:58
Dr_willisError: http://www.axiz.co.za/axiz/news/news/corporatenews/tabid/100/Default.aspx: TypeError: Value undefined (result of expression oNo06:58
fignewlol I get that for most pages on the internet :)06:58
sigma_that206:58
sigma_but why does it work on firefox?06:58
Dr_willisYep. that web site needs.. work.06:58
sigma_how do i move files from /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ to my desktop06:59
sigma_?06:59
sigma_Dr_willis: its their brand new site! lol06:59
Dr_williscp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/* /home/username/Desktop06:59
Dr_willissigma_,  shall i point out that it looks fine in IE. :)07:00
sigma_Dr_willis: lol07:00
Dr_willisthey got somthing messed up with theur grey box's of links...07:00
Dr_willislets try Opera07:01
sigma_Dr_willis: can i use the feisty package installer in gutsy? the one that was on the rightclick menu07:01
sigma_Dr_willis: yeah they don't seem to focus on a web presence07:02
Dr_willissigma_,  i always just use the shell and apt-get install stuff..07:03
Dr_willisOpera wins :)07:03
sigma_lol07:04
sigma_Dr_willis: but if i find the installer script in feisty and copy it over will it work?07:05
Dr_willissigma_,  what isntaller script?07:05
crystalsalut07:05
crystalhello07:06
Dr_willisHowdy07:07
Dr_willisAloha07:07
Dr_willisHiddly Ho!07:07
crystalil a une persone qui parle Français ICI07:07
sigma_Dr_willis: the one that made that right click installer appear in feisty07:07
Dr_willissigma_,  i cant recall the last time i ever installed a package by clicking on it. :) even those i download i use the shell and 'dpkg -i whatever.deb'07:08
jhutchins!fr | crystal07:08
ubotucrystal: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:08
crystalmerci tank07:09
jhutchinsSe bon07:09
tehm0nkcan anyone look at my install partition settings (its a picture on photobucket) and tell me whats wrong or what they *should* look like?07:30
firecrotchOk, I'm having a *slight* brain-fart right now... let's say I have a shell script, we'll call it script.sh, I ssh into my server and run it.  How can I have it **NOT** exit the script if I close the ssh connection?07:30
tehm0nkfirecrotch: no idea....07:30
firecrotchtehm0nk:  I'm sure it's something simple, I recall having done it before, I just don't remember how07:31
tehm0nkive tried like everything lol07:33
tehm0nkit's cause my raid is harsh lol07:34
SlynderdaleIs there anyone around who is familiar with the setwork settings and such in Gutsy Gibbon> I'm expierencing a problem. No matter what I tried, I can't get a static IP to work.07:34
firecrotchSlynderdale:  what do you mean it doesn't work? Can't set one? or it doesn't stay configured after a reboot? or what?07:36
sigma_how do i get my windows pc to see my kubuntu pc on a network? i have enabled file-sharing and samba - i can see the windows pc from the kubuntu pc but not vice versa, however the kubuntu pc can ping the windows pc successfully07:37
Slynderdalefirecrotch: CAn't set one, when I do, it won't let me connect to the network or internet. My current network IP is 192.168.1.100 and I tried to set it to the static ip of 192.168.1.105, with the same info I used in feisty fawn and it doesn't work.07:37
firecrotchtehm0nk: I figured it out, how silly of me.  nohup ./script.sh07:37
sigma_whats the proper address to enter in the windows pc to access the kubuntu pc?07:38
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marx2k*sigh* klibido has some serious shortcomings07:42
Daisuke-Idothe kubuntu pc's IP...07:42
mox69__Slynderdale: it might be something with networkmanager07:42
jca-DKHi can anyone please help getting my ati radeon x1950 pro card working with compoiz fusion. i got my ati card set up with the ENVY tool, but when i run compiz --replace i get a xgl not present. and if i do xgl info i get "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org. please help :)"07:42
Daisuke-Idomarx2k: oh, where do i start?  no automatic downloading to a directory based on subject, for one.07:42
Daisuke-Idojca-DK: well, you shouldn't have used envy.07:43
Daisuke-Idocheck #compiz-fusion07:43
sigma_Daisuke-Ido: tried that, the windows pc says windows can't find it07:43
marx2kDaisuke: how about no ability to set an expiry date greater than 99 days07:43
Slynderdalemox69__: Everything I tried failed to work :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48296/07:43
marx2kmy binary server has 150 day retention... guess I lose 51 days :)07:43
Daisuke-Idomarx2k: ah, i'm using an isp newsserver, so that's never come up :D07:44
Daisuke-Idogreat completion, terrible retention07:44
sigma_Daisuke-Ido: the kubuntu pc is also an apache web server - the windows pc sees files on the webserver perfectly07:44
Daisuke-Idosigma_: how are files on the kubuntu pc shared?  samba?  nfs?07:44
marx2kDaisuke: hah I guess as long as youre constantly scanning and decoding, that shouldnt be an issue for you :) I pay $20/month for unlimited download/unlimited speed07:45
Daisuke-Idothat sounds like...  giga?07:45
jca-DKDaisuke-Ido: Why not? i tried to use the restrizted drivers in kubunto but linuz freezes when i load x and i have to cut power to computer.07:46
marx2kDaisuke: it's a giga competitor :)07:46
Daisuke-Ido!envy07:46
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »07:46
Daisuke-Ido!ati07:46
marx2kbut really, it's all the same...the only difference is retention rates07:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:46
sigma_Daisuke-Ido: samba and nfs07:46
marx2kDaisuke-ido: newsgroups.com07:47
Daisuke-Idomarx2k: retention plus speed07:47
marx2kmm hmm07:47
marx2kI have a 10MBit download connection, and if Im not saturating it 24/7 with  these newsgroups, I feel like Im wasting my money :)07:47
jca-DKThanks i will check :)07:47
sigma_marx2k: i wish i had that kinda speed07:48
marx2ksigma: its expensive and only useful if you have access to servers that can keep up that speed with content07:49
marx2kit's 10 down, 1 up07:49
marx2kand its cable, and they block service ports so I cant set up web servers or ftp servers07:50
sigma_marx2k: isnt it useful for downloading large files?07:50
marx2ksigma: indeed it is. my movie collection has grown exponentially :)07:50
sigma_Daisuke-Ido: so any ideas on how to make the network work07:50
jca-DKmarx2k: nice nice your using newsgroups :) what server you use ?07:50
jussi01!o4o | marx2k07:50
ubotumarx2k: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.07:50
marx2kjca-DK: newsgroups.com07:51
marx2ksorry, newsfeeds.com07:51
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Daisuke-Idosigma_: i'm drawing a blank, other than doublechecking samba settings07:51
marx2kmy samba was totally screwed this morning... I fixed it07:52
marx2kbut I took a very extreme route in doing so07:52
sigma_Daisuke-Ido: could windows firewall be a problem?07:52
SlynderdaleCan anyone here help me with a network problem in Gutsy Gibbon? For some reason, it won't let me set a Static IP in Gutsy Gibbon while it did in Feisty Fawn using the same information. I ended up doing a clean install of Gutsy Gibbon today to replace Feisty Fawn and ran into this problem. My DHCP IP currently is 192.168.1.100 yet when I try to set the static IP to 192.168.1.105 which I used in Feisty and WIndows, it fails to connect.07:52
sigma_marx2k: how did u do it?07:54
Linux_GaloreSlynderdale: when you have a static ip you dont actually connect07:55
marx2ksigma: I basically removed almost every option from my smb.conf and took it down to workgroup and  netbios name for global section and path for share section07:55
Linux_GaloreSlynderdale: if you not getting out it usually means you havent set the gateway and the dns properly07:56
marx2ksigma: I was having some serious samba issues before that07:56
Linux_GaloreSlynderdale: either that or you havent setup your router properly07:57
sigma_marx2k: are you connected to your internet router via a lan cable?07:57
marx2kyes07:57
marx2kbut also have wireless laptops on the lan07:57
SlynderdaleLinux_Galore: They are properly set, thats what confuses me. Heres my before and after interfaces file, my connection info and so on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48296/07:58
Linux_Galoremarx2k: I usually use swat the setup the base conf07:58
marx2kLinux: I was using an awesome program called gsambad07:58
marx2k!info gsambad07:58
ubotugsambad: GTK+ configuration tool for samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.6-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 95 kB, installed size 360 kB07:58
sigma_marx2k: when you connect the lan cable to your pc does the internet just work automatically or do you have to set it up?07:58
Linux_GaloreSlynderdale: can you ssh into another machine ?07:59
marx2kmarx2k: it works automatically... I mean might have to restart networking in /etc/init.d but generally its automatically07:59
SlynderdaleLinux_Galore: No, it doesn't even register my gateway/router. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48299/07:59
SlynderdaleYou can see before then after when I set the static IP and then when I removed it08:00
Linux_GaloreSlynderdale: what does ifconfig show08:00
sigma_marx2k: ah ok i see, always wondered if it did, and how exactly would you share the internet connection on one pc over a linux network? lets assume its not a lan router but rather a usb modem that im using08:00
SlynderdaleLinux_Galore: Nothing after its set and before I have in the pastebin. THough if you want, I can get you the actual results though iI will have to reconnect to IRC.08:01
marx2ksigma: Unless youre hooking all your PC's into a centralized router and that router hooks into your gateway, I dont know how to work it08:02
SlynderdaleLinux_Galore: Its weird, I used exactly the same settings I used in Feisty Fawn as I did in Gutsy Gibbon yet it worked in FEisty but not in GUtsy and there hasn't been any hardware or network changes since then.08:03
sigma_marx2k: ok. i just dont understand why it doesn't work if i put default gateway as the pc with the internet connection08:03
marx2ksigma: yeah Im totally clueless about connection sharing08:04
sigma_marx2k: ok ive edited my samba settings in kcontrol, must i restart my pc for it to take effect or is there a command i can run to restart samba?08:05
marx2ksigma: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart08:05
tehm0nkit's installing!08:05
sigma_marx2k: it appeared i had the wrong workgroup name08:05
SlynderdaleLinux_Galore: So am I a hopeless case?08:06
sigma_marx2k: it said command not found08:06
marx2kcommand not found??08:08
sigma_marx2k: suppose it would help if i actually had samba installed :)08:08
marx2khahaha yeah08:08
marx2k!info smbd08:08
ubotuPackage smbd does not exist in gutsy08:08
marx2kUmmm....08:08
sigma_i thought it was installed automatically08:08
marx2k!info samba08:08
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB08:08
marx2k!info smb-server08:09
ubotuPackage smb-server does not exist in gutsy08:09
marx2khmmm08:09
marx2k!info samba-server08:09
ubotuPackage samba-server does not exist in gutsy08:09
marx2kwtf08:09
sigma_marx2k: is that the only one i need?08:09
marx2klet me think here...08:09
marx2kyes, just install the samba package08:09
marx2k!info smbfs08:10
ubotusmbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 473 kB, installed size 1100 kB08:10
sigma_marx2k: if you look up the "samba" package in packages.ubuntu.com it says - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix08:10
marx2kyep that should do it08:10
marx2kyou probably also want.. umm.....08:10
marx2k!info winbind08:10
marx2k!info nmbd08:11
marx2kcome on, ubotu08:11
ubotuwinbind: service to resolve user and group information from Windows NT servers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 2190 kB, installed size 5508 kB08:11
ubotuPackage nmbd does not exist in gutsy08:11
marx2k!namebind08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about namebind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:11
marx2kugh08:11
marx2kwell you want the namebind service also08:11
marx2kI forget the package name08:11
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sigma_marx2k: will i work just with the samba package? i just want the windows pc to see the linux pc08:12
marx2kit SHOULD... but you MIGHT also need the namebind package...08:12
marx2knmbd - NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services to clients08:12
marx2koh thats part of the samba suite, so you should be all good actually08:13
sigma_marx2k: surely it should be a dependency?08:13
marx2kits part of the package08:14
sigma_il be damned, kubuntu has all the dep's for samba, they should've included it with the default install08:14
marx2keh... it's just extra files ... most people dont need them and wouldnt know what to do with them08:15
marx2k*most* people have only one computer :)08:15
sigma_marx2k: oh ok, well let me try download it, hope it worlks08:15
sigma_marx2k: lol08:15
marx2kit should be08:15
marx2kalso you might want to download the gsambad package... it makes setup REALLY easy08:16
sigma_marx2k: is it just me or is internet alot faster on linux than windows?08:16
sigma_ok il get that08:16
tehm0nkis there a way to have dual monitors?08:16
marx2kI get better connection rates (lower ping rates, faster download rates) in linux08:16
marx2kif you disable ipv6, I think it gets even faster08:16
jussi01!dualhead | tehm0nk08:17
ubotutehm0nk: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama08:17
sigma_marx2k: so its not just me! will disabling ipv6 make a diff if u use a usb modem? (gprs)08:17
marx2kno08:18
jussi01!ipv608:18
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:18
sigma_marx2k: dam! lol. ok it finished downloading08:19
marx2kuse gsambad to set it up08:19
marx2ktrust me :)08:19
marx2kenjoy , im going to sleep :)08:19
tehm0nkalso which nvidia drivers do i use?08:19
dsmith_is it true the kde4 uses less memory?08:20
sigma_marx2k: thanks for the help!08:20
jussi01tehm0nk: which card do you have?08:20
jussi01tehm0nk: its likely it will select them for you in the restricted manager08:21
tehm0nkoh08:22
tehm0nk2 8600GT08:22
SlynderdaleSeems like everyone who tries to help me tends to disappear :/ Guess my problem will never be solved.08:22
tehm0nkheh 1 LCD on each08:22
tehm0nk!xenerama08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xenerama - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:22
tehm0nk!Xinerama08:23
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead08:23
tehm0nkok my cd just errored out during install08:28
tehm0nki didn't think nothing of it but i burned it at 48x08:28
tehm0nkand it was on the partition i just whiped08:28
tehm0nkso i just went to dl it again and through i'd try the torrent08:28
tehm0nkit shot up to 600 KB/s08:28
tehm0nkdownloaded 9mb then fell to 0 and stopped lol08:28
SlynderdaleCan anyone here help me with a network problem in Gutsy Gibbon? For some reason, it won't let me set a Static IP in Gutsy Gibbon while it did in Feisty Fawn using the same information. I ended up doing a clean install of Gutsy Gibbon today to replace Feisty Fawn and ran into this problem. My DHCP IP currently is 192.168.1.100 yet when I try to set the static IP to 192.168.1.105 which I used in Feisty and WIndows, it fails to connect.08:29
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sigma_when i access a samba machine from windows it always prompts for a username and password, what do i enter?08:34
tehm0nkwhere do i find the restricted manager in kubuntu?08:36
sigma_kcontrol08:36
jussi01tehm0nk: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted manager08:41
tehm0nkthank you jussi0108:41
jussi01:D08:42
tehm0nkhow do i make kubuntu look like youtube's ubuntu beryl?08:42
SatManUKafternoon all - regarding my topic yesterday on pos for linux - i found bananapos.com - Banana Point of Sale08:55
SatManUKbut the server has just crashed on me mid way through downloading the files..08:56
SatManUKanyway care to check out www.bananapos.com and see if you can connect?08:56
tehm0nkSatManUK: do you know anything about compiz-fusion?08:56
SatManUKnot a clue..08:56
SatManUKnever used it sorry08:57
tehm0nkit's there for me08:57
SatManUKhmmz..08:57
tehm0nkare  you using konquerer?08:57
SatManUKi can't even ping it..08:57
SatManUKyeah08:57
SatManUKcan you give me the dns for it?08:57
tehm0nktry firefox08:57
SatManUKok08:57
tehm0nk[00:58] [DNS] Resolved www.bananapos.com to: 74.126.194.25408:57
tehm0nkkonquerer gave me problems right off the bat08:58
tehm0nktoday is my first time in a while messin around with linux lol08:58
SatManUK100% packet loss08:59
SatManUKi was on the site earlier08:59
SatManUKi sent them an e-mail because the ftp server is passworded08:59
SatManUKand then it went offline :P08:59
tehm0nkyou KILLED dum!08:59
SatManUKnope i can't even connect with firefox..08:59
tehm0nkwhat is it you're trying to get from there?09:00
SatManUKwell if you wanna be kind you could download the rpm's and e-mail them to stanner@bulldog-office.com for me09:00
SatManUKthe rpm09:00
SatManUKi will use alien to convert them to deb09:00
SatManUKand install them that way09:00
penguinwhat is the command o unmount my cd rom09:00
SatManUKeject :p09:00
penguinit refuses09:00
SatManUKumount /media/cdrom09:00
SatManUKsudo umount /media/cdrom09:01
SatManUK(something is using it)09:01
SatManUKhave you got a window open09:01
SatManUKlike dolphin09:01
SatManUKor are you in the folder?09:01
SatManUKusually the reason09:01
SatManUKyou cant umount it from within the folder09:01
SatManUKor with any kind of folder viewer open09:02
SatManUKif Dolphin is viewing /media/cdrom - you can't umount /media/cdrom09:02
SatManUK!compiz09:02
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:02
SatManUKtehm0nk: thats for you09:03
penguini gave sudo umount /media/cdrom and pressed eject on cdrom and it still didnt work09:03
tehm0nkcool09:03
tehm0nkright now i'm on the live cd09:03
tehm0nkis there a way to switch the cd without rebooting?09:03
SatManUKpenguin: are you in /media/cdrom09:03
SatManUKi don't know..09:04
penguinim in my home directory09:04
SatManUKif you press eject from the live cd - it don't give it you so i guess not..09:04
SatManUKit lives on the cd - without the cd - how can i live?09:04
penguinits a starcraft cd09:04
tehm0nki want to switch it with the same cd09:04
tehm0nklol09:04
SatManUKits not the  cd something is locking the drive09:04
SatManUKreporting its in use09:04
tehm0nkthe one i'm on gave me errors while copiein haha09:05
SatManUKwell you can do a net install if you want.. depending on how fast your connection is09:05
SatManUKi used to use SuSe but i switched to Kubunutu because its mirrored in Georgia09:05
tehm0nkhow would i do that?09:05
SatManUKand that means 8mb/s09:05
SatManUKgood question :P09:06
SatManUKone min..09:06
tehm0nkwell i mean my dl isn't great09:06
tehm0nk6 mb dl speed09:06
tehm0nkbut that dont mean i'll get that from anyone09:06
tehm0nki wish i could do it across the network somehow09:06
tehm0nkbah lemme just reboot on the other CD brb09:06
SatManUKok tyt09:07
inteliwasphow can i remotely empty the trash bin?09:09
SatManUKi don't know..09:11
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tehm0nkshould i update via adept before installing?09:12
inteliwaspi just tried to delete a folder bigger than the free space on my primary hdd09:13
idiocrashanyone have other terminals to recommend besides konsole? Looking for ideas.09:17
vzduchaterm, eterm, urxvt..        gnome-terminal *duck*09:18
idiocrashwhat are the benefits of those three?09:18
SatManUKwb tehm0nk09:19
SatManUKxterm?09:19
vzduchdepends on what you want, I guess.. for me, urxvt is a bit too minimalistic, I've used aterm before and afair it's useable, eterm I only know by name09:19
Voyage_any good file manager other than konqueror and dolphin?09:21
vzduchKrusader09:21
idiocrashthunar!09:21
idiocrashor if you like the terminal... midnight commander. Good to have around when xorg is broken.09:21
SatManUKdamn i can't convert post 1.2.309:26
vzduch?09:27
lascardoes anyone else (with COMCAST as an ISP) get wlan timeouts when using ktorrent?09:29
jacksalut a tous09:30
jpatrick!fr | jack09:30
ubotujack: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:30
SatManUKi can't even connect to www.bananapos.com09:31
vzduchwhat's that?09:31
|Steffan|Hi, when i installed kde i had to choose what kind of window (mode) i liked. I choosed for 'windows', but how I can change that mode?09:36
|Steffan|I mean the look en feel of kde09:36
jca hi can anyone help me configure xorg.conf for compiz-fusion09:37
SatManUK|Steffan|: configure desktop09:38
jcai installed and tried the restricted driver manager, but it dosent work09:38
vzduchapplying changes usually requires to restart X.. did you do that yet?09:39
tehm0nkargh just ran into a problem with grub not good lol09:39
SatManUK|Steffan|: on the desktop - right click and you should see it09:39
tehm0nkcan i paste here 3 linrd?09:39
tehm0nk*lines09:39
SatManUKtehm0nk: whats up with grub09:39
tehm0nkgrub> device (hd0) /dev/mapper/nvidia_hdihbdaa09:40
SatManUKit works fine with me09:40
tehm0nkgrub> find /boot/grub/stage109:40
tehm0nkError 15: File not found09:40
tehm0nkdid i put the wrong thing?09:41
|Steffan|SatManUK, i saw it :D09:42
tehm0nkno ideas?09:43
|Steffan|tehm0nk, just wait..09:44
SatManUK!grub09:45
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:45
diegoespaña?09:45
Lynoure!es09:46
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.09:46
tehm0nki'm using a walkthrough as it is lol and i followed everything to the T lol09:46
diegook gracias09:46
diegoola09:46
diegoalguien k me pueda ayudar?09:46
diegoesk soy nuevo en este sistema operativo09:47
|Steffan|Je ne parle pas francais!09:47
|Steffan|or spanish09:47
diegospain¿09:47
jpatrick!es > diego09:47
|Steffan|Has KDE such ([alt]+[F2]) keys a  gnome?09:49
|Steffan|really miss those keys09:49
jpatrickyep09:49
jpatrickif you mean the run dialog09:49
jcahow do i get a SB X-fi to work in kubuntu09:50
tehm0nkok i really think i screwed it up09:55
|Steffan|jpatrick, that i think so09:56
jpatrick|Steffan|: if you want an application launcher type: 'katapult' there and use that09:56
tehm0nkmaybe it was the setup of my partitions09:56
binks121how can i tell what the location of my dvdrw drive is09:57
|Steffan|But how i use katapult?09:57
ardchoille|Steffan|: alt+space09:57
|Steffan|it doesn't work09:58
|Steffan|it does nothing09:59
ardchoille|Steffan|: Does this command return tow lines: ps aux | grep katapult09:59
ardchoille*two09:59
tehm0nkgrub> root (hd0,6) | Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS09:59
|Steffan|Two lines10:00
surgyhi10:01
ardchoille|Steffan|: katapult and grep katapult? and alt+space does nothing?10:01
SatManUKwhat is the point of having a whocares email on a site10:02
SatManUKif you don't want e-mails - don't put up the address10:02
|Steffan|ardchoille, you say it10:03
jpatrick|Steffan|: what does it return running it in the console?10:03
|Steffan|aargh, i'm back to gnome :P10:03
ardchoillelol10:03
|Steffan|steffan   6064  0.0  0.8  30696 17180 ?        S    10:27   0:01 katapult -session 10d9d39668000112680660600000081280032_1193858299_58146910:03
|Steffan|steffan   7175  0.0  0.0   2976   772 pts/1    S+   11:00   0:00 grep katapult10:03
ardchoillekatapult -session  ?10:04
|Steffan|didn't do anything special, so ..10:04
ardchoille|Steffan|: Run katapult from a terminal and see if there is any output, if not, try alt+space while it's running10:05
sylvisjWhat would be the best way to add an autostart script?10:05
jpatricksylvisj: in ~/.kde/Autostart10:06
sylvisjex. modprobe -r nivida; modprobe nvidia10:06
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|Steffan|I'm back to gnome :P10:06
jpatricksylvisj: hmm, you might want to add that to /etc/modules10:06
sylvisjjpatrick, I need something that takes effect sooner than KDE's autostart10:06
sylvisjok, thanks10:06
SatManUKtrying tuxshop10:07
sylvisjjpatrick, I can just add nvidia and it'll automatically cycle it?10:07
sylvisjor will I have to manually modprobe -r it somewhere10:07
jpatricksylvisj: adding nvidia should do10:08
tehm0nk!grub10:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:11
SatManUKand its a deb file :) no alien converts10:11
vzduchwhat's tuxshop?10:13
poison--morning10:19
|Steffan|Hi10:20
vzduch!hi | poison--10:20
ubotupoison--: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:20
poison--:D10:20
Tm_T!botabuse10:21
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.10:21
poison--morning Tm_T10:23
Tm_Tg'day10:23
poison--im havin a weird issue10:23
poison--everytime i reboot i loose my beyboard layout settings10:24
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poison--and to set it right, i only have to uncheck and check again the country flag box in settings10:24
tehm0nk!grub10:24
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:24
vzduchTm_T: are you a bit over-sensitive today? o010:25
Tm_Tvzduch: I'm always ;)10:25
tehm0nkok, i can't figure this out10:27
tehm0nkall the walk throughs are saying to do the same thing with grub10:27
tehm0nkfind /boot/grub/stage110:27
tehm0nkand that brings up nothing.10:28
ardchoilletehm0nk: from a regular terminal (not in a grub shell) try this:  ls /boot/grub/stage110:29
jay-oh-enwould it be hard to get a laptop with these system specs to get working with linux "mobile AMD sempron processor +3000 with 384mb RAM and a ATI mobility radeon Xpress 200 series graphics card"?10:29
tehm0nkls: /boot/grub/stage1: No such file or directory10:30
ardchoilletehm0nk: Right.. find can't return that which doesn't exist10:30
tehm0nkso how do i fix that10:31
tehm0nkis what i was getting at all along :-P10:31
tehm0nki mean i even browsed to there and didn't find it10:31
ardchoilleRight, find is doing exactly what it should be doing10:31
ardchoilleThe problem is stage1 doesn't exist10:31
tehm0nkis there anything i can do to fix that?10:31
tehm0nki mean i was close :-/10:32
tehm0nkbeen at this all day and most of the night haha10:32
tehm0nkhere is something else10:32
tehm0nk   Partition num: 3,10:33
tehm0nkError 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS10:33
tehm0nkardchoille: can i pm u?10:33
ardchoilletehm0nk: Is this a fresh install on old hardware?10:33
ristowhat for is the skim ?10:34
tehm0nktrying to add kubuntu10:34
tehm0nkto a vista system10:34
tehm0nkis there something i needed to change in the bios maybe?10:34
tehm0nki swear i remember a setting...10:34
ardchoilletehm0nk: I'm not well versed in grub10:35
tehm0nkdang10:35
tehm0nklemme look in my bios brb... heh10:35
vzduchif this didn't substantially change, Grub is not capable of seeing partitions that start behind the 128 GB line10:38
SatManUKnow i need to load install mysql10:39
SatManUK!mysql10:40
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:40
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tehm0nk!grub10:42
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:42
SatManUK!postgres10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about postgres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:45
SatManUK!pg10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:45
jpatrickSatManUK: please /msg ubotu for exploring :)10:45
avain*really hopes somebody can help her*10:48
avainIs anybody about that i could ask a question of?10:48
jpatrick!ask | avain10:48
ubotuavain: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:48
SatManUKhow to start the postgresql server?10:49
PolitikerNEUdoes anybody know anything about the following error: CMake Error: kcddb was not found. Need to install from kdemultimedia10:49
vzduchthe rare sight of a woman in this channel, and then she's shy, oh my.. o0                  :D10:49
avainOkay, well recently ive installed kubuntu, problem is, i took too much space from my win xp partition, and i need to get it back, im willing to nuke and pave kubuntu if needed, but i need to get my xp part back up, i used xp for my work, and i need the space for when clients need big projects done10:50
jpatrickSatManUK: like in /etc/init.d/ see if there's a postgresql script: if so 'sudo /etc/init.d/postresql start'10:50
SatManUKi guess theres not10:51
SatManUKit says command not found10:51
vzduchif you cp&paste'd it it can't be found :D10:51
avainSo, does anybody know? ._. im freaking out, i just had a client talk to me today about a project, and $$$ is important10:53
SatManUKi found it10:53
Lynoureavain: you can use qparted for resizing the partitions back the way you want them, I think,  unfortunately you cannot resize mounted partitions and thus need to use a bootable cd for it10:53
SatManUKit says its running10:53
SatManUKbut i don't have ownership permisions inorder to restart it10:53
avain<3 Lynoure10:53
avainSo, that would allow me to nuke the linix part, then reformat it back to NFTS and merge it with my current win xp part?10:54
SatManUKaha starting PostgreSQL 8.2 database server :)10:54
Lynoureavain: you would not even have to 'nuke' Linux, you can just reduce it's size, if you want.10:54
avainDo you know where i can get the files nessery to get a qparted boot cd going?10:54
avainAh, even better :)10:55
vzduchis *parted able now to increase NTFS partitions in size?10:55
vzduchafaik this was always a limitation in Linux10:56
SatManUKhow do i know the default password?10:56
Lynourevzduch: not sure, actually. But I can check.10:56
avainDo you think ya could be my hero and give me info on how to get a boot cd of qparted going? x.x10:56
vzduchSidux10:56
Lynourevzduch: if it cannot, she can take space from linux and turn it into FAT32 and use that for the project files...10:57
ardchoilleavain: SystemRescueCD has qtparted and a ton of other useful admin tools on it and it's only about 200Mb10:57
vzduchdoesn't have qtparted, but gparted works at least as well as qtparted10:57
ardchoilleavain: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page10:57
avain<3 thank you10:58
ardchoilleavain: My bad, it has gparted, not qtparted10:58
avainits this burnable from windows though? ive yet to master burning on linix and as much as i love the OS, all the tech work right now for it is gonna make my poor little head pop10:58
ardchoilleavain: But it's still a very nice livecd10:58
vzduchburning in Linux is as easy as installing and firing up K3b10:59
ardchoilleavain: Download the iso, burn it as an image to a blank cd and you're set10:59
avainThankee so much x.x i almost freaked out waaaay too mcuh X310:59
avainwhen your rent and stuff is coming up, and projects pay that x.x10:59
ardchoille!sysresccd10:59
ubotuSystemRescueCd is a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM. It contains a number of admin tools including gparted and partimage. http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page10:59
ardchoilleI forgot there was a bot trigger for it11:00
SatManUKavain once you get used to it - you will find kde just as easy - if not easier to use than windows :)11:00
SatManUKwhats the default password for postgreSQL?11:00
avain*chuckles and smiles* :) heh ive only really used windows beacuse it makes it easier when i show demos to my clients, on a OS thats familier to them, and one i grew up using X3 but i just might! heh11:00
sigma_kubuntuwhy does ktorrent not work?11:00
avainwell thank you! off i go! <3 cheers!11:01
vzduchsigma_kubuntu: define 'does not work'11:02
Lynoureubotu has a nice factlet on that...11:02
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sigma_kubuntuvzduch: when i tel it to download something it does nothing11:06
vzduchyou should see the download listed in the download window when you open the torrent11:06
sigma_kubuntuubotu: !ktorrent11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:07
booobsHi!11:07
jpatrick!info ktorrent > sigma_kubuntu11:07
vzduchif it doesn't download, there's either no peers or a tracker you need to register for11:07
vzduchall information is given in the download window11:07
sigma_kubuntuok il giv it another try. can spyware and malware from bittorent infect my linux machine?11:08
vzduchimprobable though not impossible11:09
sigma_kubuntucomforting to know. i have already uninstalled wine. hope i dont get anything11:11
booobsI have installed Kubutn 7.10 and installed Fluxbox. Now I have the problem that my knetworkmanager doesn't work anymore. It just says "no network devices found". but i can connect manually with konsole with "sudo iwconfig essid home", so my card should be allright. pls help!11:12
sigma_kubuntui just worry about bios viruses11:12
jpatricksigma_kubuntu: as long as you don't install anything funny, you should be fine11:13
booobstried to reinstall knetworkmanager but it didn't help11:13
booobs:[11:16
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kurassiema all11:48
maverickso even the new Kubuntu 8.04 will not have KDE4 by default11:49
maverick?11:49
bazhangno maverick11:49
booobswhy?11:49
bazhangnot ready for prime time11:50
maverick!kde411:50
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php11:50
SatManUKanybody ever gets stuck with postgressql they need this command.. psql -c "ALTER USER postgres WITH PASSWORD 'newpassword'" -d template111:50
SatManUKwhen you first install..11:50
illumin123Moin11:52
nick_Hi everyone, i'm looking for backup software (I don't like keep) that can do full and differential backups, does anyone have any suggestions?12:10
jussi01!backup | nick_12:10
ubotunick_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:10
Daisuke-Idoum, yeah.  keep12:11
nick_Daisuke-Ido: I'm not a huge fan of keep12:12
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Daisuke-Idoi don't blame you12:13
bsanderI *love* retrospekt12:22
bsanderhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=5795212:22
bsanderas a backup tool12:23
Lynourebsander: how long have you been using it?12:24
bsanderfor about two weeks now i think12:25
sangeliHi, I am getting an error on mount /dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) This way I am not able to get my profile as my home dir is on /dev/sda512:25
sangeliWhat do I have to do to understan the error and fix it?12:25
bsanderonly problem is that it needs to backup to a partition that can handle hard links (like ext3)12:25
bsanderso I had to reformat my extranal hd from vfat12:25
bsanderother than that, it rocks my socks ;)12:26
bsandersangeli: whats the error?12:26
Lynourebsander: I have been thinking of graphical front-end for dirvish, myself.12:26
nick_bsander: Ill check that out, thanks for the link bsander12:26
sangelibsander, after an upgrade made by kubuntu, I was not able to access my home dir which resides on /dev/sda5. So, I do not have anything of mine when I login. How to fix it?12:27
bsanderLynoure: that's not incremental, is it?12:27
Lynourebsander: heh, yes it is.12:27
sangelibsander trying to add it to fstab does not work because at new reboot it resets to default settings.12:28
bsandersangeli: whats the error when you manually mount /dev/sda5?12:28
sangelione sec12:28
bsanderah ok12:28
Lynourebsander: same way all rsync-link based backup solutions are. they not really new. :)12:28
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bsanderLynoure: yeah exactly :)12:29
bsanderbut what does it add then, over retrospekt?12:29
sangelibsander, first of all, when I umount I get an error saying that it is busy12:29
sangelibsander, so, first I have to umoun it right_12:29
gabriel_hey guys, what application do you you for voice chat with your buddies?12:29
gabriel_use*12:30
bsandergabriel_: skype. It has video support now <312:30
Lynourebsander: I have not tried retrospekt... too new for me. Does it allowing backing up to remote systems? Does it take care of expiring old versions?12:30
bsandersangeli: yeah i think so12:30
gabriel_bsander: i isn't skype in the ubuntu repos?12:30
sangelibsander, I do not know where is it mout as. How to solve this first issue?12:31
bsandergabriel_: don't know really12:31
gabriel_bsander: ok i didn't find it there after search12:31
bsanderit should be available from skype.com as a .deb i think12:31
bsandersangeli: i'm not really that much of a mounting guru :) When you just type "mount", dos it get listed a sbeing mounted somewhere?12:32
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sangelibsander, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48315/12:33
bsanderLynoure: it does take care of expiring backups, it keeps daily, weekly and monthly stuff for a limited time, and according to the author it does support remote backups but (at east for now) you'd need to configure rsnapshot by hand12:34
bsanderin the end it dhould support any system that rsnapshot/rsync supports :)12:34
gabriel_http://www.skype.com/intl/sv/download/skype/linux/ will those rpms work for kubuntu? they're not specifically for ubuntu...12:34
sangeliha, I got it.12:35
sangelibsander, my home dir is not on /dev/sda5 but on /dev/sda612:35
romunovhow do i activate the Add shortcut in Spellcheck?12:35
sangelihow to correct this on my current kubuntu?12:35
romunovi have to add a larger number of words to a custom dictionary12:36
bsandergabriel_: for video support (dont know if you want that), you'll need skype 2.0 beta12:36
bsanderget it here: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/12:36
bsanderthe feisty fawn .deb works in gutsy too12:36
bsandersangeli: i think you should try this in system settings -> advanced -> disk & filesystems12:37
gabriel_bsander: no i just want audio chat12:38
Lynourebsander: thanks for the info.12:38
bsandergabriel_: then 1.4 should do it too: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/12:38
bsanderalso a feisty fawn .deb12:38
sangeliok12:39
gabriel_yeah but i have only installed via repository install so far... kinda new to linux12:39
bsanderhowever i like the sound support of 2.0 better too, and it hasn't crashed on me once12:39
bsanderso i still recommend 2.0 :)12:39
bsanderLynoure: np :)12:39
gabriel_bsander: can i easily install one of those rpms? will they work for unbuntu?12:39
gabriel_maybe ubuntu is compatible with mandrake rpms?12:40
bsandergabriel_: there are .debs on those pages, specifically built for ubuntu. Try those.12:40
gabriel_ok thanks12:40
bsanderubuntu doesnt support rpms, so if you really want those you need to convert them with another package, I believe it's called alien12:41
bsander!info alien | gabriel_12:41
ubotugabriel_: alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.68 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB12:41
sangelilet me try I rebbot and see if it works. I think I got the error identified.12:42
bsanderok :)12:42
gabriel_bsander: there was download for feisty.. so it should work with that even though i'm on gutsy right?12:42
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bsanderyes12:42
bsanderit works for me:)12:42
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sangeliwhy kubuntu is unable to retain the settings set into fstab? I removed /dev/root       /       unionfs defaults        0       0   and changed with the proper setting /dev/sda6  /   /ext3  default 1 1  saved and rebooted. but it goes back to what it was before12:46
gabriel_bsander: it says "problem with audio capture" when i try to call someone.... i have SB live card and everything else is working...12:49
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gabriel_bsander: any ideas?12:49
bsanderdid you check the faq?12:50
gabriel_bsander: of course not :)12:50
drbobbdamn networkmanager really pisses me off12:50
bsanderhehe12:50
gabriel_bsander: i'm coming from windows hehe12:50
drbobbunreliable as shit is what it is12:51
drbobbi had to switch off all crypto on my ap to force it to connect today12:52
bsandergabriel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype12:52
sigma_kubuntuanyone here gotten their nvidia tv out working properly?12:54
drbobband i still needed to reboot cause the dumb gizmo continued to insist the ap is encrypted12:54
drbobbthough it no longer was12:54
ibilichow do I download a single file from the console?12:54
drbobbibilic: d/l from http://...12:55
drbobb?12:55
drbobbwget <paste the url here>12:55
sigma_kubuntui got mine working in feisty but theres no hope in gutsy12:55
drbobbheh i don't really want to keep my ap unecrypted for good, do i12:57
sigma_kubuntunvidia12:57
drbobbso let's try enabling good ol'wep for a start12:57
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bsandersigma_kubuntu: yes12:58
sigma_kubuntubsander: which card do u have?12:59
SatManUKi have installed and can access a PostGreSQL Database - I am trying to install http://www.shcircuit.com/~ross/TuxShop-2.2-i386.deb TuxShop POS to link in with PostGreSQL but it keeps saying unable to connect to MySQL server but its tested with PostGreSQL any ideas?12:59
fsckrok i am kinda new to kde been using gnome.  is there a way i can get rid of this stupid kdwallet crap12:59
bsandergeforce 7600 mobile or something12:59
nosrednaekimfsckr: yeah,you can disable the wallet13:00
fsckrwell i have already uninstalled it but it still comes up13:00
nosrednaekimfsckr: although kwallet is very useful if you run alot of kde apps (kmail, kopete, konqueror)13:00
sigma_kubuntubsander: how did u do it? i hav a 6600gt13:00
fsckrno it annoys me everytime i run something with a password it pops up13:01
bsanderfsckr: you can let kwallet have an empty password, so it still gets used but doesn't bother you anymore13:01
ibilicdrbobb: yes, wget did it, thanks13:01
drbobbdamn13:01
drbobbno good, network manager insists on using the old crypto config it has remembered13:01
drbobbhey can anyone gimme a hint on what to do about it??13:02
bsandersigma_kubuntu: i used nvidia-settings, mostly. But i have a strange setup, already have dual head and use the tv only for movies..13:02
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bsanderbut first, try nvidia-settings, works great most of the time13:03
bsander!info nvidia-settings | sigma_kubuntu13:03
ubotusigma_kubuntu: nvidia-settings: Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0+20070502-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 675 kB, installed size 1616 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)13:03
test_I am unable to umount a device. How to force it to umount?13:03
flhaho13:04
vzduchwhat's the error?13:04
test_I have two / in mounts13:04
test_I need to remove the wrong one but I always get busy device13:04
vzduchI don't think that's possible..13:05
drbobbor is it just me that is struggling with the general flakiness of networkmanager vs wireless??13:05
sigma_kubuntubsander: i also want to use tv only for movies. i tried nvidia settings. it doesnt do anything - how do i force tv detection?13:05
nosrednaekimtwo / mounts? unless its a merged FS, thats impossible.13:05
test_everytime I change fstab and reboot it goes back to original and does not retain my changes13:05
nosrednaekimsigma_kubuntu: no clue, I just know how to do it on my ATI13:06
nosrednaekimtry the command line nvidia-settings13:06
bsandersigma_kubuntu: i'll show you how I'm doing it, just a sec.13:06
vzduchtest_: 'mount' --> pastebin please13:06
test_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48321/13:07
test_/dev/sda6  is the correct partition where /home resides13:07
test_after upgrading kubuntu I got this mess13:07
vzduchstrange13:08
test_yes13:08
kuroryuutest_: what's your fstab look like?13:08
vzduchonly thing I can think of is: use a live CD to correct the fstab & reboot13:08
drbobbwhy a live cd? why not just fix it now & reboot?13:09
test_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48325/13:09
kuroryuudrbobb: cause it'll just update the fstab in the home dir and not in the real /13:10
test_because anytime I reboot the changes I make to fstab are erased and the file is brought to prior setting13:10
test_If I choose to boot off the live cd, what do I have to do_13:11
test_?13:11
kuroryuuthough you could umount /dev/sda5 and mount it as something else to change the fstab there, then make sure grub's booting the right partition as /13:11
test_but if I do so I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48326/13:12
kuroryuutest_: try lsof | grep /dev/sda513:12
kuroryuuit'll tell you what's using that mount13:13
test_I get empty line13:14
kuroryuuodd...13:14
test_even if I add mount -f it does not work13:14
test_yes13:14
kuroryuubasically you should boot up on the livecd and mount /desv/sda5 and change the fstab to the correct setting13:14
test_I will try13:15
test_thks for now.13:15
test_........13:15
drbobbkuroryuu:  what are u talking about13:15
kuroryuudrbobb: which part do you mean?13:16
drbobb<kuroryuu> drbobb: cause it'll just update the fstab in the home dir and not in the real /13:16
drbobbthis part13:16
kuroryuubecause he had his home directory mounted as / somehow13:16
drbobbaah sorry missed that13:16
drbobbhad stuff seriously fscked up then13:17
bsandersigma_kubuntu: I have this script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48322/ and this xorg-conf-tv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48324/ which is used in the script13:18
bsanderit creates a new xsession on the tv and starts mplayer on it13:18
drbobbok so can anyone claim that he/she has a setup such that networkmanager just works w/wireless?13:20
drbobbi wanna know the secret to make it so13:20
sigma_kubuntubsander: let me copy those links down and log into irc on my pc. im browsing on my phone now13:20
bsanderhehe ok13:21
kuroryuudrbobb: not that it's much help, but my wireless worked 'out of the box'13:22
drbobbmy story is that n.m. seems to work fine with my ap for days13:22
drbobbbut then one day decides it no longer wants to cooperate13:23
drbobbso day 1: it connects but disconnects after a minute or two13:23
drbobblather rinse repeat13:23
drbobbday 2: won't associate at all13:24
kuroryuuodd... what kinda card is it?13:24
drbobbbroadcom 431813:24
sigma_bsander: its me sigma_kubuntu13:24
drbobbi tried both ndiswrapper and bcm43xx13:24
sigma_bsander: how do i use the scripts?13:24
drbobbbut it makes no difference, dooesn't seem to be a driver problem13:24
kuroryuuhave you tried tinkering with your access point?13:25
drbobbpower-cycling the ap seems to help for a while sometimes13:25
drbobbbut then, sometimes it doesn't13:25
drbobbiwlist scan reports the ap correctly, with good signal quality13:26
sigma_bsander: are u still there?13:26
bsandersigma_: theres one script13:26
drbobbi tried tinkering with the crypto settings13:26
bsanderrun it with the path to a video13:26
drbobbbut when i downgraded the crypto, from wpa2-psk to wep13:27
bsanderthe second is an xorg.conf script13:27
bsanderput it in /etc/X1113:27
drbobbnetworkmanager insists on using the old settings, and of course fails13:27
bsander(dont overwrite your xorg.conf!!!)13:27
bsanderthe script uses it for the second xsession13:27
drbobbonly thing that works is switching off all crypto on the ap13:27
sigma_bsander: ah i see, but is it for s-video or composite?13:28
bsanders-video13:28
drbobboh i also changed the channel # on the ap to one that's unused in my neighborhood13:29
drbobbmade no difference either13:29
sigma_bsander: is svideo the cable with lots of pins in it?13:29
bsandersigma_: http://z.about.com/d/hometheater/1/7/C/9/svideo2.JPG13:30
sigma_bsander: yup thats it:)13:30
bsandergood :)13:31
sigma_bsander: no wait mine has more holes in it13:31
sigma_bsander: what does a composite look like?13:31
kuroryuusigma_: big, single pin, usually with a yellow jacket13:32
bsandersigma_: http://www.hometheatermag.com/images/archivesart/1105hook.3.jpg13:32
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bsanderso thats less holes ;)13:33
sigma_bsander: ok no thats what goes in my tv, so it must be a composite (i have a converter cable)13:33
fay_elfhi! to be able to burn audio cd's of mp3's using k3b, what package should i install?13:33
sigma_ok so where do i put the name of the video file?13:34
bsanderwhat matters is the tv-out port i think13:34
bsanderi have s-video, but use a scart to connect it to my tv13:34
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drbobbok i'll be trying to switch crypto back on but i'm fairly sure that will force me to reboot13:34
sigma_bsander: yeah i guess so, so must i name the xorg file u gave me xorg-conf-tv?13:35
drbobb(there doesn't seem to be any easy way to restart just the networkmanager service)13:35
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=== \-error is now known as sergey
bsanderyes13:36
sigma__bsander: sorry i disconnected my internet by mistake13:37
fay_elfok got it anyway libk3b2-mp313:37
sigma__bsander: i have renamed the xorg file to xorg-conf-tv , whats the next step?13:38
bsanderrun the script with a path to a movie. Note that your normal monitor will go blank as it switches xsessions, so it's not possible to keep on browsing while watching the video13:39
bsanderwhen the movie finishes or you press escape, you'll get back to the normal session again13:39
sigma__bsander: where do i put the path to the movie?13:40
bsanderi set it up like that cause i already have a dual head session and most GPU's don't seem to be able to output to 3 different screens..13:40
bsanderjust run tv-script.sh /home/me/movie.avi13:40
bsanderor however you named the script ;)13:41
sigma__bsander: oh ok, are you sure the xorg file should be named xorg-conf-tv and not xorg.conf.tv?13:42
bsanderyes13:42
bsanderyou can change it, but then also change it in the last line of the script :)13:42
sigma__ok13:42
sigma__guess i should give it a try13:43
sigma__bsander: it keeps saying "command not found"?13:44
bsanderwhich command?13:45
sigma__bsander: heres the command "tv-script.sh /home/sigma/sdb1/Media-Server/Thirteen"13:45
sigma__im running it in Konsole13:45
bsanderdoes it say which command it can't find?13:45
sigma__it says "bash: script.sh: command not found"13:46
vzduchsigma__: buy glasses :P13:47
vzduchthere's a dash in there13:47
sigma__bsander: ok i got it going but it just ends saying with a big error, hang on il paste it13:48
bsanderk13:48
nosrednaekimshouldn't Thirteen have a filetype suffix?13:49
sigma__nosrednaekim: i removed them, still works for some reason13:49
MGalaxyHello, how can I add some ADSL Connections with different UN/PW? so that I can connect whit the connection I want13:49
MGalaxywith*13:50
nosrednaekimsigma__: i'd put it back... its helpful for programs sometimes13:50
sigma__ok will do13:50
sigma__bsander: heres the error - "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48328/"13:50
bsandersigma__: you dont have xterm13:51
bsander!info xterm | sigma__13:52
ubotusigma__: xterm: X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 229-1 (gutsy), package size 444 kB, installed size 1092 kB13:52
sigma__basically the (primary) screen disapears as if its gona switch then it comes back13:52
sigma__ok il get that now13:52
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drbobb_damn i can't tweak the crypto settings on my ap at all13:53
sigma__um guys my pc isnt allowing me to open any apps since running that script13:53
drbobb_network manager always insists on using the old ones it remembered, even after a reboot13:54
sigma__hang on im gona restart x13:54
drbobb_it's either all crypto off, or the exact settings that used to work in the past13:55
MGalaxyhello?13:55
drbobb_(but don;t seem to work anymore)13:55
nosrednaekimdrbobb_: did you try a purge of knetworkmanager and a reinstall?13:55
drbobb_nosrednaekim: no, but do you suggest that is what one should do every time one changes some settings on one's accesspoint?13:56
sigma__ok im back now13:56
nosrednaekimdrbobb_: certainly not, but Knetworkmanager is also a piece of pure bugginess.13:57
ibilicin Disks and Filesystems, what does the "Enable" checkbox do?13:57
drbobb_anyway i'm sure it keeps the ap settings somewhere in my home dir13:57
nosrednaekimibilic: it mounts it13:58
ibilicalso, how do I see a list of mounted partitions?13:58
drbobb_and purging the package would't get rid of them13:58
ibilicand how do I see a list of mountable devices?13:58
sigma__bsander: i got the xterm installed, should i try running the command?13:58
ibilicbut I have some partitions that are there and have the Enable/Disable option and some of them don't13:58
MGalaxydrbobb_: Hello, how can I add some ADSL Connections with different UN/PW? so that I can connect whit the connection I want13:58
bsanderyes :)13:59
drbobb_MGalaxy: sorry no idea13:59
bsanderyou could also just sit there and watch your screen, but I think trying to run the command would be a tad more useful ;)14:00
kaminixDo I actually need Klipper running?14:00
kaminixDo I need it to use ctrl+c?14:00
sigma__bsander: i got a picture:) but on my monitor because its not hooked 2da tv, il have to carry the pc over there, is it normal for the command to revert back to my monitor if no tv is attached?14:01
bsanderer14:01
bsanderi don't know really14:01
sigma__kaminix: its good for storing stuff u copied14:01
bsanderyou just got it on your regular monitor?14:01
sigma__bsander: yup14:01
sigma__bsander: lemme just try it on the tv, will u still b around?14:02
bsanderyeah i'll be here for about 20 more minutes14:02
kaminixsigma__: What if I only need the thing I copied last? If I don't really need anything except ctrl+c/v and ctrl+middleclick?14:02
bsanderis that enough?14:02
bsanderkaminix: X sometimes acts really strange with c/p14:03
sigma__bsander: should be, one quik thing - will this also work on a ati laptop chipset?14:03
bsanderfor instance when you copy something and then quit the app, your clipboard will be empty without kl;ipper14:03
bsanderI couldn't say really, don't count on it since I generated the xorgconf with nvidia-settings14:03
bsanderbut it might work, i truly don't know :)14:04
kaminixI see... well is there anyway to hide klipper then?14:04
bsanderyou can configure your systemtray to hide certain icons, kaminix14:04
kaminixHow?14:04
kaminixAha!14:04
kaminixFound it! :) Thanks!14:04
bsanderunlock kicker14:04
bsanderclick the little arrow14:05
bsanderah ok :)14:05
bsandernp14:05
kaminix:)14:06
kaminixNow... anyway to standardize the Konqueror taskbar icon? :p14:09
feroxhi all14:09
Jyzygzel-Sounds are not working14:09
feroxmay you take a look of this http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feroxxpixeltj6.png and tell me what shall i do?14:09
nosrednaekimferox: looking14:11
bsanderbtw, if i want to monitor my disk throughput in ksysguard, does anybody know how to find the "address" of the disk I wanna watch?14:11
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sigma_bsander: im on the tv, and its still thinking that the monitor is my tv screen (movie opens on monitor and not tv)14:11
bsanderferox: whats the problem in that screenshot?14:11
patricioHi all, how do I have to configure my kubuntu to work with tv-out(s-video)?14:12
JohnFluxbsander: you could run 'mount'  - that will tell you14:12
nosrednaekimbsander: I think there are links on the left side of the app with all the available devices14:12
drbobbok, well partial success: i got my laptop to associate with the ap. however, dhcp failed repeatedly14:12
nosrednaekimferox: whats wrong with that?14:12
feroxmy pixell are wrong14:13
drbobbthat was with wep encryption14:13
feroxevery pixell is moving...14:13
bsanderJohnFlux, nosrednaekim: what I see in ksysguard is a whole list of [number]:[number] lines14:13
nosrednaekimah.14:13
bsandereach of which I can open and load sensor applets for\14:13
bsanderhow do I ID my regular hd in there?14:13
vzduchferox: drink less :P .. or buy a new monitor, the screenshot shows no errors14:14
nosrednaekimferox: I don't see anything wrong14:14
foxhi14:14
JohnFluxbsander: i'm not sure what that is heh14:14
drbobbnosrednaekim: the trick was to ask for a network by name and not pick it out of knetworkmanager's menu14:14
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nosrednaekimbsander: are the really really long numbers? like UUIDs?14:14
feroxok ... so it's the monitor....14:14
bsanderno14:14
JohnFluxbsander: file a bug on bugs.kde.org  to show mount names or something14:14
bsanderfirst number is either 1 or 814:14
JohnFluxbsander: and I'll fix it14:14
drbobbthat forces the buggy p.o.s. to ask for the auth data again14:14
JohnFluxbsander: it's the major and minor number14:14
nosrednaekimdrbobb: ahh, well with WEP, you can do it from the command line very easily14:14
bsandersecond number is in range 0-3314:14
bsanderJohnFlux: I will :)14:15
JohnFluxbsander: ls -la /dev/hd*     will list the major and minor numbers14:15
JohnFluxbsander: for your hard disks14:15
nosrednaekimbsander: ah.... grub device names I guess.14:15
drbobbiwconfig was correct but dhcp failed anyway14:15
JohnFluxnosrednaekim: nah probably major and minor numbers for the device14:15
BPXtrfirefox didn't open after i update ubuntu 7.04 to 7.1, does somebody know why?14:15
bsanderJohnFlux: it was ls -la /dev/sd* for me but thanks, that was helpful :)14:16
drbobbnow i'm on unencrypted wireless and it sorta seems to work14:16
nosrednaekimBPXtr: run "firefox" from a command line14:16
drbobbexceot i already had two disconnects in the last 5 minutes14:16
BPXtrthere is no other way???14:16
drbobbs/exceot/except/14:17
nosrednaekimBPXtr: thats just to catch any errors14:17
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BPXtrSegmentation fault (core dumped)14:17
nosrednaekimBPXtr: hum, well, thats helpful.14:18
nosrednaekimBPXtr: try uninstalling firefox and then reinstallin14:18
BPXtrok14:18
nosrednaekimreinstalling firefox that is14:18
BPXtrnope14:20
BPXtrnot working14:20
SatManUKwhere would i find the location of apache2.conf of httpd.conf?14:22
nosrednaekimBPXtr: do you have alot of bookmarks and saved passwords and such?14:22
nosrednaekimSatManUK: probably in etc/apache14:22
BPXtrjust 3 or 4 extensions14:23
BPXtrFireFTP, Colorzilla, Measure it, Google Toolbar Ect.14:23
SatManUKhow to restart it14:23
nosrednaekimBPXtr: no bookmarks? I'm talking about wiping your .mozilla14:24
SatManUKi wanna run sql-ledger so i need to use it via apache214:24
nosrednaekimSatManUK: restart what.14:24
SatManUKapache214:24
SatManUKso it reads the httpd.conf file14:24
nosrednaekimSatManUK: probably in /etc/init.d14:25
BPXtru mean to delete that folder at all?14:25
nosrednaekimBPXtr: yes, everything in it which will erase your bookmarks14:25
BPXtrfinally...14:26
BPXtrthank you!14:26
BPXtrdo u have any idea about "Reason"?14:27
BPXtrit was cause of an extension or?14:27
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drbobb_damn this is tremendously frustrating14:27
drbobb_still can't get WEP going14:28
nosrednaekimBPXtr: no I don't.... probably a problem between versions of firefox14:28
BPXtri see.. thank you very much :)14:28
nosrednaekimBPXtr: no problem14:29
bsanderJohnFlux: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15411114:29
drbobb_ok now managed to connect in something called wpa2 mixed mode in my ap's config interface14:29
nosrednaekimdrbobb_: try using wlassistant14:29
BPXtrhave a nice days/nights14:29
nosrednaekimyeah, you too14:29
drbobb_nosrednaekim: i tried it once and was under the impression it was even buggier than knetworkmanager14:30
nosrednaekimdrbobb_: hmm well, works for me fine14:30
drbobb_does it know about wpa?14:30
nosrednaekimdrbobb_: no14:30
drbobb_oh so that was why i gave up on it14:31
drbobb_well thx anyway, gonna go get something to eat14:31
drbobb_L8R14:31
tiny_minii can't hear any sound from my laptop with kubuntu 7.10. how to fix it?14:32
nosrednaekim!hardware | tiny_mini14:36
ubotutiny_mini: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection14:36
Rafabehi14:37
Rafabei have xubuntu, and want to install kde. It says it has to download 150mb. I have a Kubutu CD, is there any way I can have it use those files instead?14:37
jpatrickRafabe: apt-cdrom add14:38
RafabeI type that at the terminal?14:40
SatManUKim trying to run perl scripts in konqueror and firefox but they are asking to open wine - why?14:40
Rafabegot it working, thanks14:42
KingzarHey how can i automaticly start a program from reboot?14:42
muralihi14:43
LjL!startup | Kingzar14:43
ubotuKingzar: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot14:43
crush_groovekingzar  Id =f there isnt an option to do that in the programs prefs you can crontab it14:43
LjLuhm, this would need a Kubuntu factoid14:43
muralicould any one help me?14:43
Rafabeone more question: I put the the OS on a 5gb partition, and plan on using my 60gb partition for file storage. How can I have it store downloaded packages on the 60gb drive, so that if I format and reinstall in the future, it doesn't have to redownload everything? There's gotta be somewhere I can define the local package save folder, right?14:44
Kingzari don't have gnome!14:44
LjLKingzar: just open the programs you want to be started (and nothing else), and Save Session from the K menu14:44
bsanderKingzar: ln -s [programname] ~/.kde/Autostart/[programname]14:44
bsanderbut letting KDE save your session is better14:45
bsanderwhat LjL said14:45
Kingzarmy knotes didn't start this time14:45
Kingzarand superkaramba neither14:45
matttishi14:47
LjL!startup-#kubuntu is <reply> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot14:47
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL14:47
muraliI installed Kbuntu system went out of range in resolution14:47
matttisLjL: cool, thats what i need :-)14:48
matttis!boot14:48
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto14:48
linux__hi ppl14:48
linux__could you gimme a lil help pretty pls ?14:49
KingzarHowcome my vlcplayer gets blue screen playing dvds14:49
bsander!ask | linux__14:49
linux__my kopete crashes14:49
linux__when I try to login on my msn acc14:49
linux__I've just installed kubuntu here14:50
matttisthats an allergic reaction14:50
ubotulinux__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)14:50
linux__ok hehe14:50
linux__so14:50
Kingzarhow to play dvd's on ubuntu?14:50
matttis!dvd ?14:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvd ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:51
matttis!dvd14:51
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:51
limachello folks14:51
linux__so this is the error I receive14:52
linux__SIGSEV 1114:52
linux__on the kopete14:52
matttislinux__: thats a kopete bug. you could submit a bug report and use pidgin for a while14:53
matttisI dont think anything is possible14:53
matttismaybe updating14:53
jpatricklinux__: please do: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade - that was a bug from ages ago14:54
SatManUKok i got sql-ledger running - but how to connect it to the database - its saying no database drivers!!14:54
matttis!service14:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:55
matttis!services14:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:55
linux__ok patrick ^14:55
linux__^^14:55
* TuX_Claudiu :: [ amaroK playing Jan Wayne - Because The Night (Highstreet Allstars extended mix) ] :: [ 208kbps ] :: [ 68:28 of 75:32 ] ::14:58
onishidatolinux: your linux version please?14:58
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onishidatolinux__: your linux version please?14:58
linux__me?14:58
linux__7.1014:58
linux__kubuntu14:59
jpatricklinux__: it work?14:59
linux__oh I'll do it yet rs14:59
onishidatolinux__: so, why do you have that Kopete bug? i just wonder....14:59
linux__i was installing VLC14:59
linux__yep14:59
linux__I dont know hehe14:59
linux__Im newbie here14:59
onishidatolinux__: me too15:00
onishidato:)15:00
linux__hehe15:00
linux__like ive already used kopete on the ubuntu15:00
linux__and I like it15:00
linux__so I waaaaaant to use lol15:00
jpatricklinux__: open the console (KMenu -> System -> Konsole) and type: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" there15:01
linux__ok15:01
linux__so15:02
linux__162mb download15:02
jpatrickgo updates15:02
linux__downloadin15:03
linux__it'll take a while15:03
linux__cuz my connection its not that good15:03
linux__lol15:03
linux__amarok needs plugins to play mp3 files?15:05
SatManUK!mp315:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:05
SatManUKthere you go :)15:06
linux__thanks15:06
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ubunturoshow big would an apt-get dist-upgrade be?15:09
KingzarWho can help me, i got almost all the codecs i can think of to play back avi files or dvds but still i get no video, audio is working tho15:10
linux__I use VLC media player, it plays all the formats of video and audio15:11
bazhangKingzar: you have compiz enabled?15:11
linux__without plugins15:11
Kingzaryes15:11
Kingzarcompiz fusion15:11
Kingzarlol i think i got too much plugins now, i get green screen now15:13
bazhangKingzar: was that answer for me? If you want to get a particular person's attention, it's a good idea to use their nick15:14
Kingzarbazhang: sorry, you recognize my problem?15:15
onishidatolinux__: you have to upgrade amarok15:16
bazhangKingzar: have you added kubuntu-restricted-extras? also, try running video with compiz disabled15:17
onishidatolinux__: do you have automatix2??15:17
Kingzarbazhang:  got the extras, will do the compiz15:17
bazhangonishidato: that is not recommended, nor supported15:18
linux__i dont know15:18
linux__hahaha15:18
jpatrick!automatix > onishidato15:19
onishidatolinux__: you have to install ubuntu restricted extras and multimedia codes15:19
linux__oh ok15:19
linux__now Im downloadin the updates15:19
onishidatojpatrick: but it will b easier for newbie like us15:20
jpatrickonishidato: and mess up your computer, yes15:20
holoKingzar, did you try to restart X, everytime i get those screens, I restart X and everything is ok15:20
Kingzarhow do i restart x?15:20
holoctrl+alt+backspace15:20
bsanderonishidato: yes if it works, but autmoatix can REALLY mess up your system, something a "newbie like you" definitely doesn't want :)15:21
holoif you don't have session manager, make startx in the console15:21
onishidatohe he, just wanna help15:21
onishidato:((15:21
bazhangonishidato: please don't recommend things to new users that may cause breakage15:21
linux__haha15:22
linux__no problem onishidato15:22
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linux__=]15:22
onishidatoi think it work good with me, and can help another.15:22
bsandernoproblem, now you know :)15:22
bazhanglinux__: you want the codecs, you need to install kubuntu-restricted-extras15:23
bazhang!worksforme | onishidato15:23
ubotuonishidato: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/15:23
onishidatobazhang: that's what i mean to help linux__15:24
onishidatobazhang: kubuntu-restricted-extras15:24
onishidatobazhang: :P15:24
bazhangonishidato: the folks who help here will have to clean up after bad advice like that15:24
onishidatobazhang: ok ok15:25
onishidatobazhang: no talk now..... oa oa15:25
onishidatohey15:26
fsckranyone using just awn or kiba-dock for their panel?15:27
onishidatocan someone show me some program to log in to another computer?15:27
fsckronishidato, krdc15:27
onishidatocan it log in with window xp?15:28
fsckronishidato, yes15:28
fsckri use it to connect to my xp machine15:29
Kingzareuhhh how do you disable compiz btw :)15:29
onishidatothanks15:29
fsckrn15:29
fsckrnp15:29
Kingzarbazhang: how do i disable compiz ? :)15:29
bsanderKingzar: run "kwin --replace"15:29
bazhangKingzar: alt-f2 kwin --replace15:29
Kingzari'm not super with linux but i have a hunch that i have too many codecs, and the program have trouble picking the right codec15:30
Kingzarbazhang: still blue :S what's the command to activate compiz again?15:31
Kingzarneed compiz fusion back ! :P15:33
BluesKajhiyas all15:34
bsanderKingzar: compiz --replace15:34
bazhangKingzar: alt-f2 compiz --replace15:34
Kingzarthank you15:34
user_hi all... i was wondering how to stop certain programs from loading at startup.  In GNOME, its simple, but I can't find it in KDE (7,10).15:34
bsanderhehe rheres some echo here :P15:35
bsander!startup | user_15:35
ubotuuser_: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot15:35
BluesKajuser_, kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart...remove whatever app you want if it's listed there15:36
user_ok, but how do i *stop* programs from loading at startup?  That didn't answer my question15:36
user_aha... /usr/share/autostart?15:36
bsanderyes it did, close the program and save your session. Next time, the program shouldn't start.15:36
bsanderno, ~/.kde/Autostart but it's usually empty15:37
fsckrnobody has answered my question.  I was wondering if anyone is using only kiba-dock or awn as their panel15:37
user_bsander: thats in your home folder, not in /usr15:37
bsanderyes15:37
BluesKajuser_,   /usr/share/autostart is the file to use15:37
gabbbbbbahi, kubuntu 7.10, all bug fixes und patches are installed, no kde 4, problem: hibernate doesnT work!!! i have fluxbuntu too and hibernate does work although both are gutsy gibbon!! o_O15:38
BluesKajyou can also add apps if you wish15:38
user_blueskaj: thanks - people were telling me ~/.autostart, which was empty!15:38
bsanderah, didn't know that one :)15:38
user_blueskaj: also, I don't plan on printing with this particular computer - what programs can i safely remove?15:38
bsanderbut why does this stuff get written it to /usr/share instead of ~/.kde?15:39
BluesKajbsander, one of the heavy hitters here told me about that one , cuz i had a similar request15:39
gabbbbbbahello, hibernate doesnT work!!! gutsy gibbon 7.1015:39
BluesKaj!patience | gabbbbbba15:40
ubotugabbbbbba: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:40
onishidatofsckr: how can i use it now?15:40
onishidatofsckr: krdc15:40
bsanderBluesKaj: so why did he say they used /usr/share?15:40
bsanderfor s multi-user setup?15:41
bsanders=a15:41
BluesKajdunno bsander , I didn't ask :)15:41
bsanderok :)15:41
user_blueskaj bsander: in any event, that advice is good.  I didn't need the bluetooth loading up every time i booted.  Thanks guys15:42
BluesKajI just put the questiona nd it's answer into my text file15:42
user_can i remove CUPS if i don't use a printer?15:43
BluesKajwhy bother15:43
user_blueskaj: because its another module (not sure if thats the proper terminology) that i can see gets loaded on each boot.  I don't need it, do I?15:44
bsanderuser_: some programs depend on cups, even if you don't want to print with them15:44
user_im on an older laptop, and want the slimmest system possible to optimize performance15:44
BluesKajuser_, if you wish, it doesn't delete the app tho , the daemon wont run is all15:44
onishidatofsckr: how can i use it now?15:45
user_bsander: thanks for the info... i won't eff with it then :)15:45
finekwhat i must do to watch videos on youtube, i have konqueror15:45
user_finek: install flash15:45
bsanderuser_: you can try disabling it in systemsettings, then if something messes up you can turn it on again15:45
bsanderif you really really want it gone from startup15:45
BluesKajuser_, you can check in system settings/advanced /system services15:45
bsandersystemsettings -> advanced -> system services15:46
bsanderyeah what he said :)15:46
user_bsander: I don't think i want to mess with it.... I'm on my third install of 7,10, and i promised myself this with be the last one until Hardy comes out >:)15:46
bsanderhehehe15:46
user_i just love how customizable ubuntu is - i've only been using it for a few months (windows refugee)15:47
user_plus, the real-time help from you guys is great, too.15:47
bsanderyeah, don't worry, most of us had some borked installs in the past :)15:47
bsanderI remember them all too well15:48
LamerManhi guys, i'm looking for the source code of pthread, some standard library functions... are they available in some deb packages? I'm new to linux and just don't know where to look for it.15:48
BluesKajfor example , wife likes british series like Duchess of Duke Street and it's apretty large torrent file , so I set up ktorrent to start up in the autostart file , without having to click on it every morning15:48
bsanderbut the good thing is that they really teach you an understanding of the system15:48
user_it was a whole new world for me - i tweaked *everything* - usually stuff worked as i wanted (i was following tutorials), but i definitely borked some settings beyond my repairing ability :)15:48
bsanderand after a while you can even fix your system instead of having to reinstall it ;)15:49
crush_groove I installed gnome dt beside my kde yesterday and I want to remove it. what is line? I tried "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome" didnt work15:49
cosenalhi15:49
user_bsander: i've been getting better- i have learned this "ALWAYS make backups of any important file you are going to alter" .  That always helps15:49
bsanderyup, that's definitely the smart thing to do :)15:50
hoiAnhi15:50
cosenalis it normal that since the upgrade to 7.10 (one month ago or more) kubuntu never asked me about updates?15:50
BluesKajyup user_ , bsander done that too , this around my 12th or so linux distro and my 5th kubuntu :)15:50
user_haha :)15:50
bsandercosenal: do you have adept_notifier running?15:51
user_ok thanks again guys, i'm going to eat some breakfast15:51
bsanderok bye15:51
BluesKajcrush_groove, sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop15:51
cosenalbsander: yes15:51
BluesKajcrush_groove,, it'll remove all the gnome apps15:52
crush_grooveReply: couldnt find package gnome-desktop15:52
cosenaleven if I fetch the updates on Adept Manager it just allows me to Full Upgrade the system, but it doesn't make sense because it's already upgraded15:52
dreamcoderkubuntu 64bit or 32bit?15:53
bsandercosenal: upgrading means that there are newer versions of some packages, not an upgrade from feisty to gutsy or something15:53
bsanderAdepts status bar should tell you if there are new/upgradable packages15:53
bsander"full upgrade" will install the upgradable packages15:54
cosenalbsander: no, sorry...I mean "Version Upgrade" is the only possibility15:54
bsanderoh15:54
bsanderyou're on gutsy?15:54
cosenal7.1015:55
bsanderyeah15:55
bsanderand you upgraded from 7.04?15:55
cosenalyes15:55
bsanderthat all went well? nor errors or something?15:55
cosenalyes15:55
cosenaland after I upgraded (reinstalled) using the cd15:55
BluesKajcosenal, that's a known bug , but I don't remember the fix15:56
cosenalBluesKaj: where can I find the fix?15:56
BluesKajcosenal, one thing you could do is defeat the adept notifier and just wait til somebody more knowledgeable can tell you15:57
BluesKajbut I'd search on google linux or launchpad15:58
BluesKajin the meantime use apt to or synaptic to install apps15:58
cosenalok15:58
cosenalfor the first month of usage I supposed that no updates were avaiable15:59
BluesKaj!launchpad15:59
cosenalbut this begins to sound weird...15:59
ubotuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/15:59
cosenalBluesKaj: I don't know what I can look for16:01
cosenal...16:01
BluesKajadept distro upgrade bug, or some such thing16:02
bazhangjust apt-get is probably the best bet16:06
bazhanghope they drop it in kde4 (adept, that is)16:07
mikesco3im havinɡ an issue16:08
mikesco3whenever i tipe this weird little box with stranɡe characters with a numbers popup, as if it was tryinɡ to assistme with typinɡ in a foreiɡn lanɡuaɡe16:09
SSJ_GZmikesco3: Screenshot?16:10
mikesco3ok16:10
mikesco3just a sec16:11
mikesco3SSJ_GZ, how do ɪ send you the picture now16:12
SSJ_GZmikesco3: Upload it somewhere and post the URL.16:12
bazhangsounds like skim16:12
SSJ_GZmikesco3: imageshack, for example.16:12
OrnedanI used the Manual Configuration dialog available from knetworkmanager's menu to manually set my ethernet device's IP. I set it back to using dhcp via the same dialog afterwards, but it seems networkmanager still considers the interface to be under manual control. How do I get the interface back under networkmanager's control?16:12
mikesco3SSJ_GZ, i will have to fiɡure that out16:13
mikesco3why dont i just email it to you16:13
SSJ_GZmikesco3: Ok, I have to go now - hopefully someone else can help :)16:13
mikesco3it would be more simple forme16:13
mikesco3ohhh... mann16:13
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mikesco3let me try to fiɡure out the imaɡe shack16:14
mikesco3whenever i tipe this weird little box with stranɡe characters with a numbers popup, as if it was tryinɡ to assistme with typinɡ in a foreiɡn lanɡuaɡe16:16
bazhangdisable scim/skim16:18
bazhang!info skim16:18
ubotuskim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1238 kB, installed size 2688 kB16:18
mikesco3thanks bazhang16:19
mikesco3how do i dissable thatʔ16:19
bazhangno worries16:19
iza!dvd16:20
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs16:21
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Ryiel!dvd16:21
Ryiel:(16:21
Ryieloh... im blind16:21
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hanna!asx16:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:21
MGalaxyHello, How can I add another ADSL account with pppoeconf ?16:22
mikesco3fa16:22
mikesco3ʃ16:22
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BluesKajmikesco3, you could try removing scim in 'add remove programs"16:24
MGalaxyBluesKaj: Hello, How can I add another ADSL account with pppoeconf ?16:25
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225274 mikesco316:25
velhohello peolpe!!!16:26
MGalaxybazhang: may you please help me?16:26
mikesco3BluesKaj, man16:26
mikesco3that did it16:26
mikesco3thank you oohh sooo much16:26
mikesco3I was about to reinstall the whole darn thing16:27
mikesco3because I couldn'16:27
velhoi have a problem in my kubuntu16:27
mikesco3couldn't type except in command line mode16:27
velhowhen I start a session, the resolution is not ok. can anybody help me?16:27
martijn81velho: try kcontrol16:28
bazhangMGalaxy: switch adsl accounts?16:29
Kingzaranyone know why this command doesn't work? gpg --import automatix2.key16:29
MGalaxybazhang: yes, I have a free adsl account between 3am and 7am, and I don't like to run pppoeconf every night :D16:29
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE MGalaxy16:30
* bazhang wishes more people would read the wiki16:30
hannaCould someone give tips how to make asx-format to play with Firefox?16:31
velhomartijn81: and what do I do then?16:32
martijn81velho: peripherals> monitor and display16:33
holovelho, are you portuguese?16:34
MGalaxybazhang: It only worksfor 1 account and always modifies that account, I want to add an additional account besides the account that I connected with now16:34
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velhoholo: yep!16:34
holofrom which city?16:34
bazhangMGalaxy: where will you plug in the other modem?16:34
velhomartijn81: my resolution is ok in KDE, but it's lower before I begin a session16:34
velhoholo: are you portuguese?16:35
hannavelho, where you picked that nick? :) (just curious)16:35
holovelho, yap.. aveiro16:35
holohanna, it means "old"16:35
velhohanna: it's my last name ;)16:36
MaTiAzvelho: heh, velho means "wizard" in Finnish :)16:36
hannaOn my language, it means wizard. :P16:36
MGalaxybazhang: I have only one modem at eth0, I want to connect to my ADSL account with different usename/password. In fact, I have bought ONE adsl account with 2 usename/passwords16:36
OrnedanI used the Manual Configuration dialog available from knetworkmanager's menu to manually set my ethernet interface's IP. I set it back to using dhcp via the same dialog afterwards, but it seems networkmanager still considers the interface to be under manual control. How do I get the interface back under networkmanager's control?16:36
holovelho, but where are you from? becouse i know someone that is also called velho16:36
velhoMaTiAz: WOW! Really? lol, it means Old in portuguese ;)16:36
bazhangMGalaxy: you can try at the forums; I'm out of answers16:37
holovelho, you don't want to know what is super bock in turkish16:37
holovelhor, or "sic"16:37
velhoholo: lololol16:37
velhosic?16:37
holoyep, the television channel has a special meaning in turkish ^^16:38
velholol, qual?16:38
bazhangofftopic?16:38
holofoder16:38
holook ok.. i have to leave anyway.. continue on topic people16:39
velhoholo: i'm from torres novas16:39
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blekoshello, my login screen has lower resolution than my actual session. As a result when I move the mouse around the screen in the login-screen the screen also "moves"16:40
hannaI'm not really too excited to install all kind of plugins, is why I'm asking perhaps very simple question. What I need to install to make asx to work?16:40
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bazhangasx? is that a windows format hanna?16:41
hannabazhang, I thought so too. But some lamebutts use it anyway.16:41
cosenalBluesKaj: I found the bug on launchpad and its status is fix released16:42
cosenalBluesKaj: where can I read the fix released?16:42
bazhanghanna: have you tried in ##windows?16:42
cosenalBluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/15515016:42
ciperlonewhen I start a session, the resolution is not ok, but after I enter my password everything turns ok. can anybody help me?16:44
hannabazhang, nope,  because I thought I'd want to make things to work, not to broke them. ;)16:45
OrnedanOk, so no-one can answer that question... Does anyone here know what files networkmanager uses for it's configuration? And which ones kcm_knetworkconfmodule messes with?16:45
KingzarMy video files all get blue screen, i have tried getting many codecs, none working!!16:46
hannaOrnedan, /etc/network/interfaces -- be careful with that file, I'd say.16:48
charleshello16:49
charleshelp16:49
raeghello, how can i find out which kind of wireless-cart I have?16:50
raegisnt there a command-line-command?16:50
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charlesIs there anyone here that can help me recover a keyboard in Kubuntu?16:52
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Ryiel!video editor16:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video editor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:54
Schuenemannwhat do I need in order to play matroska files?16:59
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Schuenemannlag17:04
bsander|gone!info kdenlive | Ryiel17:04
uboturyiel: kdenlive: A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB17:04
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Schuenemann!matroska17:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about matroska - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:05
Schuenemann!mkv17:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:05
Schuenemann!info matroska17:06
ubotuPackage matroska does not exist in gutsy17:06
martijn81Schuenemann: do you want video playback of matroska?17:06
Schuenemannyes17:06
martijn81Schuenemann: best to install kmplayer with mplayer engine and w32codecs for that. this is most stable17:07
SchuenemannI want to play mkv files17:07
SchuenemannI already have mplayer and w32codecs17:08
Ryielthx bsander17:09
Schuenemannkaffeine = no video17:09
Schuenemannmplayer = works only when opening by konsole... weird17:09
martijn81Schuenemann: try kmplayer, has a nicer gui too17:10
Schuenemannok17:11
KingzarvHmm does anyone know how to improve video quality? If i look at some video's i see alot of pixels, it's not as fine as it would be in winxp17:12
romunovKingzar: i've noticed the same problem17:13
romunovespecially if i go full screen17:13
hannabazhang, for later reference, tell asker to install mplayer plugin thru adept manager... ;)17:15
lg188hello17:15
tekteenhello17:15
romunovlo17:15
Kingzarhehe in mplayer if i press fullscreen i get full screen but the video is still the same size in the middle!17:16
hanna:D17:17
hannaFare thee well, people. :) Kubuntu kicks butt! ;)17:17
lg188what the fark are those global messages ?17:19
ciperlonehow can i see all the processes that are running in kubuntu?17:19
hydrogenctrl+escape17:19
ciperlonehydrogen: tHANX ;)17:21
ciperlonehydrogen: and how can i kill a process? i mean, how do i get root acess?17:22
Chousukeuse sudo17:23
Schuenemannsudo kill pid17:23
bsander!root | ciperlone17:23
ubotuciperlone: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:23
ciperlonethankx guyz ;)17:25
ubuntu__abend an alle17:26
ciperlonei want to kill this process: aptitude. how can I do that in a command line?17:27
romunovps -e17:27
romunovit will list your processes17:27
romunovpkill <process number>17:27
bsanderthat, or sudo killall aptitude17:28
Chousukeciperlone: note that if you kill aptitude it will leave behind a lock file17:28
Chousukeciperlone: that will prevent you from using APT until you delete it17:28
ciperlonei'm doing all these questions because i what to make an aptitude upgrade, and i can't17:29
ciperlonehow to do the right thing?17:29
Kingzaris there an application that can check if i have mail on my hotmail account?17:29
Chousukeciperlone: what does aptitude say when you try to upgrade?17:29
Schuenemannan email client?17:30
nosrednaekimKingzar: hmm i'm only aware of apps for gmail/.17:30
Kingzar:(17:30
Kingzarthat's something i appreciate alot17:30
Kingzarand my hotmail is my main account17:30
nosrednaekimwell, check around, thre might be17:30
Kingzargot some tips what to look for?17:31
nosrednaekim!info gotmail17:31
ubotugotmail: utility to download email from a Hotmail or MSN account. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 136 kB17:31
nosrednaekim^^17:31
Kingzarlol thanks17:31
justin_whats the best to download gmail accounts?17:32
Chousukedownload gmail? :P17:32
bsanderKingzar: I believe kopete (instant messaging) program notifies you as well, don't know if you use that :)17:32
justin_yeah but not very often lol17:32
Chousukeany imap-capable mail client will do just fine for gmail.17:32
ciperloneChousuke: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?17:32
justin_i am using checkgmail right now but it isnt wanting to work right for gutsy :-/17:33
Chousukeciperlone: that's the lock file I was talking about17:33
Kingzarbsander:  exactly what justin said17:33
Chousukeciperlone: also17:33
Kingzari got no notification and when i entered i saw 3 new mails17:33
Chousukeciperlone: did you run aptitude with sudo?17:33
justin_lol it worked AWESOME in feisty17:33
Chousukeas in "sudo aptitude upgrade"17:33
bsanderhehe ok17:33
Jyzygzel-su17:33
Jyzygzel-kissa217:33
Schuenemannmartijn81, wtf... I can't even scroll forward the movie17:34
Jyzygzel-ignore that17:34
bsander:D17:34
lg188_!wtf |Schuenemann17:34
ubotuSchuenemann: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:34
justin_anyone know if kcheckgmail has progressed recently? i used it while ago but it was real unstable17:34
NightroseI want to install KDE 4 rc2 and am following the instructions on kubuntu.org - it wants to uninstall kdebase-bin-kde3 - is that ok? will I still be able to use kde3?17:35
bsanderjustin_: kcheckgmail works fine, sometimes it doesn't work a couple of days because something in gmail has changed, but when that happens a new version is uploaded very fast17:35
lg188_Nightrose: i think not17:36
nosrednaekimNightrose: thats fine.17:36
nosrednaekimNightrose: they patched the kde3 libs to make them work better with kde4 or something like that.17:37
martijn81Schuenemann: you should, with the cursors17:37
Nightrosenosrednaekim: ok thx a lot17:37
lg188_nosrednaekim: i don't make a change  in my KDE so i don't know a thing about them17:38
martijn81Schuenemann: is the movie completed?17:38
nosrednaekimlg188_: then pls don't give uneducated opinions17:38
lg188_nosrednaekim: kk17:38
Schuenemannmartijn81, oh yeah, I launched mplayer accidentaly. Anyway, how do you control the brightness, contrast, etc? I don't see related options17:38
martijn81i dunno, never used them17:39
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Schuenemannhmm17:39
Madhi ppl17:39
MadI want to play mp3 files on the amarok17:39
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Madand I couldnt17:40
Madit asked to install mp3 support, I installed, still it doesnt play 'em17:40
lg288??? i sould work Mad17:40
Madwhat?17:41
nosrednaekimMad: install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras"17:41
jpatrickMad: have you restarted amarok?17:41
lg288Mad it should17:41
Madops17:42
MadI guess I didnt restart it17:42
MadxD17:42
ijnhi all17:43
nosrednaekimhey ijn17:43
ijnhow to install macromedia shockwave in kubuntu17:43
lg288Mad it should  everyone should remember ...17:43
lg288ijn: hello17:43
ijnfirefox 0.1117:43
ijn?17:44
ijn :-)17:44
lg288ijn: got to site of adobe and search foor macromedia17:44
lg288for*17:44
ijnit is a tar-bz file17:44
ijncant deal with it17:44
Schuenemannmartijn81, argh... the video is too bright17:44
ijncant find .deb???17:45
ciperloneis there an utility somewhere to configure the login screen?17:45
Schuenemannwell, at least in kmplayer17:45
Kingzarciperlone:  i want to know the same17:45
nosrednaekim!flash | ijn17:45
ubotuijn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash17:45
Kingzari once donwloaded a theme, but lack of knowledge i just quit17:45
lg288it and installs  it self after klick it17:45
ijnim kubuntu 7.1017:46
lg288aargh17:46
nosrednaekimijn: then simply install flashplugin-nonfree17:46
nosrednaekim!info flashplugin-nonfree17:47
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)17:47
* lg288 getting hysteric of my mother who is irritating me17:47
ijnfrom adept?17:47
nosrednaekimijn: yes17:48
ijnok thanks17:48
lg288who needs help17:48
KingzarI lg28817:49
lg288Kingzar: kk17:49
SchuenemannI do17:49
SchuenemannI want to change video settings in kmplayer17:49
Kingzari want to know how i install a different login theme17:49
nosrednaekim!kdmtheme17:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:50
lg288Kingzar: you have a login theme ? (i never used it) is it in package ???17:50
Kingzarwell not really it's just a .tar with some .png's and a .login file i think17:50
nosrednaekim!theme17:50
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy17:50
MacAnthonyHow do I get KNetworkManager to recognize my working wireless adapter?17:50
sbcl3I'm trying to install kde 3.5.8 from source into my home directory. However, I get this message at a ./configure : (kdelibs prefix is /home/sbcl3/kde, aRts prefix is /usr). I can't remove arts without destroying the KDE from apt-get. Can I build it?17:51
lg288nosrednaekim: you can help him i don't use a other theme so i have no knowledge of it17:51
nosrednaekim!kdm17:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:51
Kingzari'll show you what i have17:51
nosrednaekimsbcl3: itd be safeer to uninstall all of KDE3 first17:51
Kingzari tried to get this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/%27CylonOS%27+for+KDM?content=5199017:52
sbcl3It's not possible to have two installations of KDE?17:52
Kingzarif i download it i get a tar with some files i have no clue what to do with it17:52
nosrednaekim!kdm17:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:52
smookerwhere i can see my CPU Temerature ?17:52
smookerhow*17:52
Kingzarwhy don't they put a readme with the files :P17:53
nosrednaekimsbcl3: it is, but you have to set some prefixes correctly17:53
zphinxDoes kubuntu support installing the latest ati drivers on gutsy?17:53
ciperloneis there an utility somewhere to configure the login screen?17:53
zphinxFor some reason DRI isnt enabled now.17:53
sbcl3nosrednaekim: if I compile arts first to the same place would it work?17:53
nosrednaekimzphinx: manually, yes, I have done it17:53
nosrednaekimsbcl3: maybe, I'm really not familiar with doing that17:53
MilitantPotatozphinx: worked for me.17:53
lg288Kingzar: i think go to system setting/.17:54
zphinxi just did it, set up two spanning monitors as well.. now when i run glxinfo | grep direct i get "no"17:54
MilitantPotatozphinx: The latest I have used is 7.1 from ATI17:54
nosrednaekim!info kdmtheme17:54
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB17:54
* lg288 starts up his kubuntu on his computer17:54
zphinxwith the dri module loaded in xorg.conf17:54
SchuenemannKingzar, http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40&PHPSESSID=bfc09874ada94afb573b91600534a49017:54
ijnhey guys what is the best video palyer for kubuntu/kde???17:55
nosrednaekimKingzar: you need that kdmtheme package ^^17:55
ciperlonezphinx: use ENVY17:55
zphinxciperlone: whats that?17:55
nosrednaekim!envy17:55
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »17:55
KingzarDohhh nosrednaekim17:55
Kingzarbut wha tto do with the files17:55
nosrednaekimdo NOT use envy17:55
ijnI need something to paly videos and stream17:55
nosrednaekimKingzar: that program will install them for you.17:55
MilitantPotatotdo NOT use evny!17:55
ciperlonenosrednaekim:why?17:55
ijnweb sites like youtube stage6 and moviebar.org17:55
nosrednaekimzphinx: remove the "composite disable" section from your xorg17:56
MilitantPotatoEnvy very rarely works, and when it does break your drivers no-one will be willing to help ya repair it17:56
ijnin gnome totem with gstreamer was fine17:56
nosrednaekimciperlone: because it is unsupported and potentially dangerous17:56
lg288ijn: www.youtube.com is one why jot use it ?17:56
ijnyou tube uses flash17:56
ciperlonenosrednaekim: i didn't know. but it works ok with me in nvidia gforce 8600m17:57
nosrednaekim!worksforme17:57
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/17:57
MilitantPotatoijn: I like VLC and Kaffein17:57
zphinxnosrednaekim: no mention of composite in my conf.17:57
nosrednaekimzphinx: are you using xgl?17:57
ijnI also need the pauer to have a plugin for firefox17:57
zphinxno17:57
MilitantPotatoKaffeine***17:57
lg288my logon screen sucks it font is extremly big17:57
nosrednaekimzphinx: this is the 7.11 ati drivers?17:57
zphinxyes17:57
ijnbut kaffeine cant read for me any thing from stage617:57
nosrednaekimzphinx: hmm how did you install them?17:57
MilitantPotatolg288: sounds like your xorg.conf has a weird virtual resolution?17:57
ijndoes it have a plugin ??17:58
MilitantPotatoijn: does for me, have you installed the proper codecs?17:58
zphinxnosrednaekim: downloaded the binary from the ati site, and ran it.17:58
lg288MilitantPotato: owkk17:58
ijnplugin kaffeine /firefox17:58
SchuenemannKingzar, http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=3517:58
nosrednaekimzphinx: you didn't generate packages or anything funny like that?17:58
zphinxnope17:58
number21pixi17:58
nosrednaekimzphinx: did you uninstall the old ati drivers forst (if you had them installed)17:58
sivajiknetworkmanager is not wokring ,it says no active device found , my /var/log/syslog file is here http://pastebin.com/f40078a4c17:58
lg288Kingzar: i got it systemsettings/logonscreen17:58
nosrednaekimzphinx: and you also need to disable the included fglrx driver17:59
Kingzarok17:59
ijnMilitantPotato: I installeed automatix17:59
nosrednaekimlg288: that is the wrong place.17:59
MilitantPotatoijn: get MediaPlayer Connectivity plugin for firefox17:59
lg288nosrednaekim:  ???17:59
lg288nosrednaekim:  where is it then ?17:59
ijnis this for kaffeine plugin??17:59
MilitantPotatoijn: it's at the mozilla extensions website17:59
nosrednaekimlg288: thats not the correct module for changing the theme17:59
nosrednaekimlg288: you have to install the kdmtheme package, and them do it from kcontrol18:00
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MilitantPotatozphinx: when you do !fglrxinfo what does it say? Mesa or ATI?18:00
ijnso ill go to mozilla web site and look for media player conectivity for kaffeine??18:00
zphinxmesa18:00
number21pixi am looking for a good video editor-- any suggestions? is there anything that is as stable as adobe premiere?18:00
lg288nosrednaekim:  oh kk then18:00
ijnis that right?18:00
MilitantPotatozphinx: pastebin your xorg.conf18:01
Kingzarnosrednaekim:  if i install kdm theme manager it doesn't interfere with KDE?18:01
MilitantPotatoijn: just MediaPlayer Connectivity18:01
nosrednaekimzphinx: did you disable the included fglrx driver in "/etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules"?18:01
nosrednaekimKingzar: nope18:01
Kingzarok18:01
ijnbut where?18:01
MilitantPotatoijn: It detects movies in webpages and lets you open them in a media player you want to use.18:01
MilitantPotatoijn: the FireFox extensions website18:02
ijnoh sound cool18:02
ijnok18:02
MilitantPotatoijn: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=MEdiaPlayer&status=418:02
ijnthanks18:02
Jyzygzel-how do i umount if it says "Device is busy"18:02
MilitantPotatosudo umount /dev/***18:02
zphinxnosrednaekim: so i shouldve deinstalled the previous drivers before upgrading?18:02
Jyzygzel-it says Device is busy18:02
zphinxMilitantPotato: holdon18:03
Jyzygzel-how do i see what process is using it18:03
lg288Jyzygzel-: 0.o18:03
nosrednaekimzphinx: yes, but it'll work fine if you just do it now.18:03
Jyzygzel-jesu18:03
MilitantPotatoJyzygzel-: i just read this yesterday but have forgot it already :(18:03
lg288O.o18:03
lg2888-)18:03
Jyzygzel-lsof | grep /mount/point18:04
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lg288BenX is the best movie this year18:05
nosrednaekim!ot18:05
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:05
MilitantPotatowhats the keyboard shortcut to full screen a window?18:05
lg288!benx |lg28818:06
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zphinxMilitantPotato: pastebin.com/m4ba4951e18:06
MilitantPotatozphinx: it's all messed up18:07
MilitantPotatozphinx: give me 5 mins ok?  make a backup of your current xorg.conf18:08
zphinxk18:08
MilitantPotatozphinx: also, make sure the only fglrx items installed came from your ATI compiled drivers.18:08
nosrednaekimzphinx: which means you need to blacklist the included driver18:08
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: He didn't remove the repo fglrx drivers?18:09
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nosrednaekimzphinx:  edit this file and add fglrx to the disabled modules line /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common18:09
sivajiknetworkmanager is not wokring ,it says no active device found , my /var/log/syslog file is here http://pastebin.com/f40078a4c18:09
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: well, the module isn't in the actual package.18:09
sivajiplease someone   help me18:09
MilitantPotatokdesudo kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common like nos said18:09
MilitantPotatoadd fglrx inbetween the quotes18:09
MilitantPotatoclose and save, then give me 5 mins.18:10
zphinxdone18:10
MilitantPotatozphinx: see if you can determine which address your video card is on18:11
DerDritteMy screen resolutions seems to irregulary jump to a size my screen can't handle (I only see part of the whole screen, but my "viewport" seems to follow the mouse). When I restart the x-Server, everthing goes back to normal. Is that a known issue?18:12
MilitantPotatoI'm seeing         BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"18:12
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: thats probably not wrong if he is getting any display signal at all ;)18:12
MilitantPotatoCan you double check to see if that's right?18:12
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: ah, ok :)18:12
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nosrednaekimDerDritte: that usually only happens when you try to run a full-screen game at a lower resolution than your monitor18:13
zphinxMilitantPotato: 02:00:018:13
zphinxsecondary on 02:00:0118:13
DerDrittenosrednaekim: I just happens after the splashscreen, also if I do absolutly nothing.18:13
nosrednaekimDerDritte: hmm18:14
nosrednaekimDerDritte: never heard of anyone complaining of that/18:14
DerDrittenosrednaekim: crap...18:15
DerDrittenosrednaekim: It isn't really an issue, it's just annoying.18:15
nosrednaekimDerDritte: doesn't mean its not a problem though. look thtough the bugs.18:15
nosrednaekimoh... its an issue :D18:15
DerDrittenosrednaekim: Is there a console way to restart X without killing the session completly?18:16
nosrednaekimDerDritte: no18:16
DerDrittenosrednaekim: thx.18:17
nosrednaekimrestart x and everything goes.18:17
MilitantPotatozphinx: make sure you've backed up your current xorg.conf18:17
zphinxk18:17
nosrednaekimof course you can restart x on the command line with "/etc/init.d/kdm restart"18:17
MilitantPotatozphinx: then paste this inplace of the origional, if it fails to load your desktop, do you know how to reconfigure xserver?18:17
zphinxyeah18:17
MilitantPotatozphinx: ok cool, here it is http://pastebin.com/m586a858518:18
MilitantPotatozphinx: wait.18:18
DerDrittenosrednaekim: Which will kill my session of course :D18:18
MilitantPotatozphinx: it added some weird charictors.18:18
nosrednaekimDerDritte:  yes18:18
zphinxMilitantPotato: the serverflags section?18:19
DerDrittenosrednaekim: Do you think it could be a nvidia-issue?18:20
MilitantPotatozphinx: http://pastebin.com/m39ba67cc18:21
MilitantPotatozphinx: it replaced " with  &#8221; in some spots for some reason18:21
zphinxMilitantPotato: do i really want aiglx if i plan to use opengl?18:22
MilitantPotatozphinx: you're using the drivers from ATI's website correct?18:22
zphinxyeah18:22
nosrednaekimDerDritte: could be. IDK18:22
MilitantPotatoThose support AIGLX18:22
MilitantPotatoit's buggy, but it runs.18:22
FredskyTrying to load  6.06 on my HP notebook. qtparted gives me this error msg filesystem failed totally. 1 cluster accounting mis matches.18:22
FredskyAny body see this before?18:22
MilitantPotatozphinx: If you don't want it you can always comment out DRI and composite aswell as that AIGLX flag18:23
MilitantPotatozphinx: but if you're doing that, I'd recommend using the Repo drivers and installing XGL18:23
MilitantPotatozphinx: if you're hoping to get compiz working18:23
zphinxi might, fighting with cedega atm, so glx is a second concern :=)18:24
zphinxill try the config now.18:24
Nightrosenosrednaekim: I installed everything - nothing seems to be broken thx ;-) - next problem: when I want to start a kde4 session the screen goes black and it gets me back to the loginscreen - any ideas?18:24
DerDrittenosrednaekim: any heads up on how to reinstall the nv-driver?18:24
nosrednaekimNightrose: run "touch .kde4/share/startupconfig"18:25
Nightrosenosrednaekim: thx18:25
zphinxwell that didnt seem to work :/18:25
nosrednaekimDerDritte: nope.18:25
nosrednaekimDerDritte: I'man ATI user18:25
MilitantPotatozphinx: yea a type-o18:25
DerDrittenosrednaekim: Oh noes! ^^18:25
zphinxMilitantPotato: where?18:26
MilitantPotatozphinx: two modules sections18:26
MilitantPotatozphinx: got happy with ctrl+v18:26
MilitantPotatozphinx: keep the top most one with 4 modules18:26
zphinxFatal server error: no screens found18:27
MilitantPotatoreally, I didn't touch your screen.18:27
zphinxundefined defive "aticonfig-device[0]" reference bu Screen "aticonfig-Screen[0]".18:27
nosrednaekimzphinx: re-run the installer, the kernel module may be mesed up.18:27
zphinxdevice even18:27
MilitantPotatohttp://pastebin.com/m4852ca8618:28
MilitantPotatotry that, if that fails with the same, it might need the 02:00:01 ?18:28
zphinxhrm18:28
zphinxyeah18:28
MilitantPotatogive that link a shot first though18:28
zphinxblah18:29
MilitantPotatonothing?18:29
zphinxnow the installer failed to install compiled kernel module.18:29
MilitantPotatodid you do depmod -a?18:29
nosrednaekimzphinx: did you run it as root?18:29
nosrednaekimsudo even..18:29
zphinxno, and yes18:30
nosrednaekimok18:30
MilitantPotatozphinx: let me snag a link for the method I used18:30
Ornedanhanna: Thanks. Commenting out the lines for the interface in question (eth1) in /etc/network/interfaces worked. Though altering the file did cause some driver to go fubar - constant enter keypresses started being registered immediately after saving the modified file. But the interface is back under networkmanager's control after a reboot :P18:31
MilitantPotatozphinx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59334818:31
prxqhello all. Any nice app to access the webcam from kubuntu feisty? According to the kernel, the webcam is recognized alright. But I can't find a program to access it.18:31
MilitantPotatozphinx: that's worked for myself and 5 others I've done the ATI install with18:31
MilitantPotatozphinx: the commands you'll need to change to match the latest package names18:32
MilitantPotatozphinx: at least up to 7.1018:32
MilitantPotatoI've not tried 7.11 since I hate the lag in firefox using compiz18:32
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Nightrosenosrednaekim: unfortunately didn´t help :( any other ideas?18:34
nosrednaekimprxq: hmm don't know...search through the repositories18:34
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DerDrittethx guys.18:35
nosrednaekimah sorry, just looked through my bash history and its "touch .kde4/share/config/startupconfig"18:35
Nightrosenosrednaekim: ;-) will try18:35
prxqnosrednaekim: already tried that. Nothing that looks useful. I thought maybe the there is something like "webkam" or something :-)18:36
zphinxhm18:36
nosrednaekimprxq: you are in luck "webcam" is available ;)18:36
zphinxhow nice18:36
MilitantPotatoprxq: for messaging or...?18:37
zphinxseems to be no such thing as a restricted manager on my system'18:37
nosrednaekimzphinx: restricted-manager-kde18:37
Nightrosenosrednaekim: wohoooo you are a genius - thank you :) /me has got a running kde418:38
prxqMilitantPotato: basically, I just want to see wether it works :-)18:39
prxqright now at least.18:39
MilitantPotato!webcam18:39
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras18:39
nosrednaekimNightrose: sweet-looking eh?18:39
Nightrosenosrednaekim: indeed - and it is soooo fast on my lame laptop compared to kde318:40
nosrednaekimyeah, I noticed that too, even with compositing on.18:40
prxqMilitantPotato: thank you!18:40
MilitantPotatothank ubotu :P18:40
OakboxHi all, im having trouble with my audigy 2 platinum pro.   I cant get the volume control or IR remote to work on the external box.  Can anyone help?18:41
prxqMilitantPotato: Iubotu won't pass the turing test anytime soon :-)18:42
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jhutchinsprxq: It's really not meant to, it's more of a card index.18:45
jhutchinsOakbox: That's pretty much to the alsa driver, except the IR for the remote which might be handled by lirc.  Google is your friend on both of those.18:46
prxqhm... no /dev/video.18:48
zphinxsigh18:49
zphinxstill no DRI18:49
nosrednaekimzphinx: ok.... did you disable that module and reboot?18:49
zphinxill try a reboot then18:49
zphinxfollowed the howto potato gave me18:49
nosrednaekimzphinx: yeah, try a reboot18:50
nosrednaekimzphinx: mike make the kernel a bit ore sane ;)18:50
nosrednaekim*might18:50
MilitantPotatozphinx: check your xorg.0.log when you get back for DRI entries18:52
zphinxw00t, there we go18:52
zphinxrestricted driver manager even picked them up18:52
nosrednaekimzphinx: dri?18:52
MilitantPotatozphinx: yea a reboot to load the modules is the easiest route18:53
MilitantPotatoi guess you could modprobe them, but meh.18:53
zphinxlets see how well they work with cedega/wine18:53
zphinxnosrednaekim: yeah18:53
MilitantPotatodirect rendering working?18:53
MilitantPotatonvm :)18:53
zphinxyeah18:54
nosrednaekimzphinx: congrats, though I find AIGLX the killer feature18:54
* nosrednaekim isn't a gamer18:54
MilitantPotatoAIGLX still has some major bugs :(18:54
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: works for me with my Xpress1100 and kwin418:54
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: if you use compiz does firefox cause Xorg to have 100% cpu usage and lag badly?18:55
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nosrednaekimhaven't tried compiz.18:56
earthsoundi currently have a dual boot environment, with Windows XP & Kubuntu 6.06LTS. I downloaded the kubuntu 7.10 iso and am now running from the live cd. i'd like to install this on top of 6.06 by reformatting the / partition.18:57
earthsoundwill it keep the grub settings from the earlier install?18:58
nosrednaekimearthsound: no.... and all of your files will also be erased18:59
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Oakboxjhutchins: thanks :)18:59
nosrednaekimearthsound: although there is a good chance that the grub settings will be the same18:59
MilitantPotatoyea grub should detect the XP install19:00
earthsoundnosrednaekim: i chose to manually edit the partitions and selected to reformat the previous / partition and use the same /swap as well. the others are not going to be overwritten19:00
MilitantPotatoearthsound: if grub is on the linux partition it will get erased when you format19:01
earthsoundi.e. i will leave the main windows partition, the shared ntfs partition and the /home paritition intact19:01
MilitantPotatoearthsound: unless you did some customization to grub it should work the same after 7.10 is installed19:01
MilitantPotatoearthsound: you'll need to set the /home mount point again19:02
MilitantPotatoyou won't need to format it, just set the path as /home19:02
earthsoundMilitantPotato: so grub should be smart enough to detect the windows partition and put the correct parameters in?19:02
nosrednaekimearthsound: if it did it with 6.06, yes, it will19:02
earthsoundyes, you're right, I forgot to point to the /home19:02
MilitantPotatoearthsound: yep, should work great.19:02
earthsoundthanks, i'll give it a shot19:02
MilitantPotatoearthsound: usually the only issues come from installing a windows OS after linux, it likes to trash grub19:03
PupenoHow can I watch a dvd I have as iso on my hard drive?19:04
MilitantPotatoVLC19:04
MilitantPotatowith the proper codecs19:04
MilitantPotato!codecs19:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:05
PupenoMilitantPotato: I think I have the codecs, because I was able to watch the DVD from the disc.19:05
MilitantPotatotry opening it in VLC then, should work19:05
PupenoMilitantPotato: thank you.19:05
MilitantPotatoVLC is a great light weight media player19:05
OakboxMilitantPotato: Is there an easy fix to a trashed grub? i have unfortunatly aquired one :) a nice xmas present from windows....19:06
MilitantPotatoOakbox: several, you can create a grub installer floppy, manually edit grub, or get a ISO like "The Ultimate Boot CD", it comes with the grub installer19:07
MilitantPotatoOakbox: if windows broke grub, you'll need to re-install it.19:07
MilitantPotatoGrub*19:07
Eduardiyohi, i have a webcam whit chipset 518, but, when a try to check this and using it, i received the next message: Error: Can't open display: :0.0. helpppppppppp19:08
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Dr_willisCant open display - sounds like you are running the app as the wrong user.19:09
OakboxMilitantPotato: windows broke grub yeah, is there no way to just add it back into the MBR?19:09
Dr_willis!fixgrub19:10
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:10
MilitantPotatoOakbox: with a grub install disk :)19:10
MilitantPotatoty Dr_willis19:10
OakboxMilitantPotato: ta ok i will go look thanks :)19:10
Dr_willisGrub is one of those tools thats so fundamental to linux - that it pays to spend a few hrs reading/learning about it.19:11
MilitantPotatowhat's the other popular boot manager?19:11
Dr_willisLILO used to be common.19:11
MilitantPotatoLilo, thanks19:11
Dr_willisBut lilo is a bit out of date and has issues on many systems. Well not as bad as it used to be.. :)19:12
sigma_kubuntuanyone here used limewire for linux?19:12
MilitantPotatolimewire is evil :)19:13
Dr_willis!limewire19:13
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.19:13
Dr_willisI perfer Frostwire :)19:13
Dr_willis!frostwire19:13
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire19:13
sigma_kubuntudoes frostwire use the limewire network?19:14
Dr_willisBoth are GNUTELLA NETWORK clients19:14
LjL!gnutella19:14
ubotuGnutella clients: GTK-Gnutella (GTK, stand-alone), gifTui, giFToxic (GTK, based on giFT), Apollon (KDE, based on giFT), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey), !Limewire, !Frostwire (Java, not in the !repositories) - See also !P2P19:14
Dr_willis:) its not limewires network.19:14
Dr_willisand frostwire works great for me.19:15
sigma_kubuntuso basically limewire is a client to the gnutella network that u just use to access it?19:17
LjLjust like all filesharing clients are clients to some network19:18
sigma_kubuntuoh i thought limewire was a network on its own19:19
sigma_kubuntumy bad!19:19
LjLno, limewire is just a program19:19
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MilitantPotatoAnyone know if the old napster servers are floating around?19:20
MilitantPotatonvm I'm getting off topic19:21
sigma_kubuntuwats da reason limewire is evil? oh and are there any kde based clients (not java) that i can browse the gnutella network with?19:22
nosrednaekimsigma_kubuntu: KMLdonkey.19:22
ardchoillesigma_kubuntu: apt-cache search utella19:22
Dr_willislimewiare has annoying spam/ads/and other things. :)O19:23
Dr_willisWhy not use a totall Open sourced variant.19:23
sigma_kubuntuyeah i didnt knw there wer linux alternatives. i was so scared using it on my last remaining windows pc19:24
sigma_kubuntudr willis i think il use kmldonkey19:25
LjLwhops he left... after making the worst possible choice :>19:28
dsmith_!pgp19:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:30
dsmith_anyone know how to get started with pgp for linux?19:30
ardchoille!info kgpg | dsmith_19:31
ubotudsmith_: kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1408 kB19:31
LjL!gpg19:31
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts19:31
ardchoilledsmith_: That should get you started19:31
dsmith_thx!19:31
dsmith_:)19:31
penguin42anyone found a way to get the 4rc2 running in a nested X session - xephyr crashes during KDE startup for me, and Xnest really doesn't seem happy (lots of stuff looks like it's redndered at 1bpp)19:36
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nosrednaekimpenguin42: try ".touch kde4/share/config/startupconfig" file19:38
nosrednaekim*touch19:38
penguin42nosrednaekim: To fix which of those cases?19:39
nosrednaekimthe first19:40
tehm0nkAnyone a guru with dual booting? and possibly Raid?19:40
penguin42nosrednaekim: OK, will give it a go19:40
tehm0nki'm having tons of issues19:40
tehm0nkand i'bve messed with it so much that i messed up my vista boot process19:41
jordan__Anyone remember using the GL Carousel screensaver? I'm using Gutsy and I can't seem to find the darn thing.19:41
tehm0nkso... i have to use the super grub disk to boot into windows.19:41
tehm0nki still cannot get grub to boot the linux partitions either i think they are too far into the hard drive to boot supposedly19:41
jordan__tehm0nk: hahah19:42
penguin42nosrednaekim: Ah yes, that did the trick!  There seems to be lots of apport reported Xephyr crashes - might not be that stable yet19:42
_nix_tehm0nk: as long as grub is reachable to the BIOS it doesn't matter where the rest of the stuff is19:42
tehm0nkbut how do i do that?19:42
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tehm0nkcan Grub be on the partition that is actually windows boot & it's pagefile partition?19:43
nosrednaekimpenguin42: its not an xephyr problem, its a startkde problem, or maybe even a packaging bug.... in any case it crashes X as well if you run it standalone19:43
jordan__ping19:44
nosrednaekimpong19:44
jordan__nosrednaekim: thx19:44
jordan__nosrednaekim: You using gutsy?19:45
nosrednaekimjordan__: yes19:45
jordan__nosrednaekim: have you found the carousel GL screensaver that use to come with the previous release?19:45
penguin42nosrednaekim: Ah nasty; if X is crashing then it's most likely an X server problem - apps shouldn't be able to segfault the X server19:45
nosrednaekimpenguin42: the problem is that kde can't find that file and crashes19:46
penguin42hmm annoying - it managed to do stuff to the main display as well19:46
nosrednaekimjordan__: I don't use GL screensavers19:46
penguin42nosrednaekim: No, the X server is segfaulting - that's not KDEs fault (even if KDE is dying)19:46
nosrednaekimah.19:46
jordan__nosrednaekim: ok.. thanks19:46
penguin42however that fix does stop whatever it did to the X server that upset it19:47
penguin42plasma is pretty19:47
nosrednaekimlol19:47
tehm0nkRight now GRUB seems to be reachable to the bios, it would try to boot, but it would just like Run grub19:48
tehm0nkand i'd end up with GRUB >19:48
tehm0nkand nothing to do from there that i knew how to do...19:49
penguin42nosrednaekim: Thanks19:52
Manyfoldis there a way to install an english dictionary for konservation while keeping the german language settings?19:52
INFOEXCLUDEDwhat are unicast packets ?19:52
INFOEXCLUDEDare they coming fro the chast university ?19:53
jim__!lpcre19:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lpcre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:53
tehm0nkso does anyone here dual boot?19:58
martijn81tehm0nk: i do19:59
tehm0nkmartijn81 did you install your linux first or soemthing else?20:00
tehm0nkmartijn81 are you using raid?20:00
martijn81i did install windows first, but i can dd the mbr back whenever i want (dangerous though)20:00
Danniliontehm0nk: it depends what you're dualbooting with :)20:01
martijn81yes and no: only raid on a single boot machine20:01
DannilionIf it's Windows install that first- it's much easier20:01
martijn81yup20:01
tehm0nkDannilion i beg to differ, i cannpt get the linux thing to boot...20:01
kiizpls can any one explain how to setup tap device on kubuntu host20:01
tehm0nkand i messed up my windows boot thing now too lol20:02
Dannilionexplain, tehm0nk?20:02
tehm0nki have to boot windows a rinky dink way with supergrub disk...20:02
tehm0nki think my partitions were not setup quite right or i didn't stick grub in the right place.20:03
tehm0nkhere are my partitions...20:03
martijn81!pastebin20:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:03
tehm0nk#1 Boot/swap file for Vista 3gb #2 Vista 100gb #3 Linux swap 1.5g #4 / for linux 15g #5 /home for linux 30g20:04
tehm0nkcan Grub be on the boot/swap partition with the vista boot sthings?20:05
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: boot/swap? whats that?20:05
martijn81tehm0nk: NO20:05
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: install grub to the MBR20:05
martijn81grub needs to be in te MBR of the disk.20:05
tehm0nkok20:05
tehm0nkstay here for a second and let me boot into kubuntu to actully Try to get this working right...20:06
tehm0nkwell boot the live CD20:06
tehm0nkok?20:06
martijn81k20:06
kiizdoes any one run qemu under kubuntu20:08
ubuntuhey !20:08
nosrednaekimkiiz: I use virtualbox20:08
ubuntu...20:09
ubuntul20:09
nosrednaekimhello ubuntu20:09
ubuntuHi !20:09
ubuntuAhhhhhhhh20:09
ubuntuI'm goin mad20:09
ubuntuwhy my kopete is crashin ?20:11
kiiznosrednaekim: is virtual box easier to use than qemu. i can get host tap device to work20:11
kiiznosrednaekim: is virtual box easier to use than qemu. i can't get host tap device to work20:12
DagonIs there any way to speed up add/remove programs? There appears to be 10 to 30 second wait before another app can be selected20:12
nosredna_ekimkiiz: virtualbox is way easier20:12
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martijn81tehm0nk: and?20:13
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tehm0nkok20:14
tehm0nkall i did was reboot into the live cd20:14
tehm0nk!grub20:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:14
tehm0nki've tried a lot of the stuff on there20:14
tehm0nkand everything to tell grub to do is all the same...20:14
kiiznosredna_ekim: does the deb download work right of the box.i have't been able to set up my internet connection on kubuntu20:15
kiiznosredna_ekim: does the deb download from 'virtualbox.com'  work right of the box.i have't been able to set up my internet connection on kubuntu20:17
thomaxkiiz: normally it should20:17
martijn81tehm0nk: the live cd only allows you to install in the MBR, so this is just fine20:17
tehm0nkok20:17
tehm0nkhere lemme reproduce the errors i was getting in grub20:18
tehm0nkgrub> root (hd0,20:19
tehm0nk Possible partitions are:20:19
tehm0nk   Partition num: 0,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x620:19
tehm0nk   Partition num: 1,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x720:19
tehm0nk   Partition num: 3,20:19
tehm0nkError 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS20:19
newguysshi, I use kubuntu, just added new HD, where can I find it ?20:20
earl_hey there fellas hows it goin20:20
martijn81ah, you install grub manually now, then just follow a guide20:20
earl_im on www.kubuntu.com reading the instructions about how to install KDE4 and the last instruction kinda threw me for a loop20:21
tehm0nkinstall it where?20:21
tehm0nklol20:21
martijn81in the MBR, i guess that would be 020:21
nosredna_ekimearl_: whats the last instruction?20:22
earl_ahem,20:22
earl_"To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm."20:22
nosredna_ekimearl_: no need to do that, just run it from kdm20:23
earl_as in, when it asks me for a username and password, pick "kde4"20:23
martijn81earl: that is if you want to emulate the OS20:23
earl_right?20:23
earl_oh.20:23
nosredna_ekimearl_: run this command though, "touch .kde4/share/config/startupconfig"20:23
earl_forget that.20:23
ArtimusI've got a nice little 2.8ghz Celeron that seems to support CPU Frequency Scaling with p4_clockmod.  I've tried using various KDE apps to display what speed my CPU is running at, but a lot of them seem to be laptop only...  Any recommendations?20:23
earl_whats that do20:23
tehm0nki have to tell grub where stagel is tho right?20:23
tehm0nk /boot/grub/stage120:23
nosredna_ekimArtimus: well, for guidance powermanager you can modify a line in the code so it works.20:24
nosredna_ekimArtimus: try kpowermanager20:24
nosredna_ekimearl_: it fixes a bug in the program20:24
earl_i should run this when20:24
nosredna_ekimearl_: you select KDE4 from the sessions menu20:24
nosredna_ekimearl_: right now.20:24
earl_after installinge verything else but before running kde4?20:24
nosredna_ekimearl_: right20:25
earl_k.20:25
tehm0nki have to mount my hard drives while in the live cd somehow to point it to the right place tho right?20:26
nosredna_ekimtehm0nk: to read the menu.lst, yes20:27
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tehm0nkok so how do i do that?20:27
kristian_hi und abend an alle20:27
kristian_ich hab problem20:27
ardchoille!de | kristian_20:28
ubotukristian_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:28
Artimusnosredna_ekim: guidance-power-manager spits out a ton of python errors...  I'm trying to find something useful.20:28
nosredna_ekimtehm0nk: "sudo mount /dev/the-device-slash-is-on /mnt"20:28
nosredna_ekimArtimus: lol, what is it?I know that program pretty well20:28
tehm0nkdo i need dmraild to find where it is?20:28
nosredna_ekimtehm0nk: yeah, no clue how to do it with raid.20:29
mark__How's flash in KDE on a 64 bit?20:29
earl_mike anderson backwards, have you tried KDE4 yet?20:29
nosredna_ekimmark__: works well here20:29
nosredna_ekimearl_: yes, using it full time.20:29
adamonline45Hi all.  What do I use to record, say, an hour of audio?20:29
earl_really20:30
earl_that stable already?20:30
mark__That's good, nosred. Because it's a nightmare on xfce20:30
mark__Bloody hell. Agrajag's here as well!20:30
mark__He's stalking me :p20:30
Artimusnosredna_ekim: Last error: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files.20:30
earl_i was about to ask what your opinion was of it but i guess there you have it20:31
nosredna_ekimearl_: its pretty stable for me, you results may vary20:31
nosredna_ekimArtimus: ewww, dbus errors20:31
Artimusnosredna_ekim: This is a fresh Gutsy install, by the way.20:31
jussi01adamonline45: audacity should do it20:31
nosredna_ekimArtimus: ummm jst try using kpowersave20:31
nosredna_ekim:D20:31
mark__I really like xfce.  I'll be sad to replace it :(20:31
shamashi, has anybody encountered a problem installing programs in Kubuntu20:31
shamasI just installed kubuntu today20:31
shamasand when I try to install anything I get an error20:32
jussi01shamas: what error?20:32
nosredna_ekimshamas: what error.20:32
mark__What's the error?20:32
Artimusnosredna_ekim: It's installing...  On my Athlon64, it complained the box was not a laptop, if I remember right.  Here's hoping this recognizes better.20:32
mark__Oh god20:32
adamonline45jussi01: I've got audacity, it doesn't seem to read my line-in.  I suspect it's a system thing more than an Audacity thing... Dang...20:32
nosredna_ekimArtimus: humm ok20:32
mark__I'm thinking of installing Kubuntu on an Athlon6420:32
tehm0nkdoes anyone know how to mount a raid partition?20:33
jussi01adamonline45: ok. well audacity will definately do it no probs.20:33
mark__Thanks a bundle Artimus :-p20:33
jussi01!raid20:33
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto20:33
nosredna_ekimmark__:  don't worry, it works fine on Athlons20:33
mark__Now I'm worried I'll have problems too20:33
shamasjusi: I get could not commit changes - adept installer20:33
adamonline45jussi01: Aight, ty 8)20:33
jussi01!tab | shamas20:33
ubotushamas: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.20:33
mark__AMD65 = Athlon64, right?20:33
Artimusmark__: Umm...  That we me just trying to setup a nice GUI for underclocking.20:33
pacmanI'm wanting to hook up my other hard drive, and it has Windows on it...I was trying to get it to work and it wouldn't detect20:34
Artimusmark__: It works perfectly fine otherwise20:34
mark__AMD6420:34
nosredna_ekimmark__: athlon64 generally denotes non-x2's20:34
mark__Ah right20:34
ArtimusOh I love this.20:34
nosredna_ekimsingle core20:34
mark__What's underclocking?20:34
tehm0nkcan anyone one help the boon?20:34
Artimus"This machine does not support ACPI, APM, PMU, CPUFreq, Suspend2Disk norSuspend2RAM.  Close KPowersave now."20:34
lavacano201014sigma_kubuntu: nice name.20:34
nosredna_ekimmark__: the opposite of overclocking... to save power20:34
mark__Ah right20:34
nosredna_ekimArtimus: eh?20:34
nosredna_ekimwow20:34
jussi01tehm0nk: did you look at the links earlier from the bot?20:35
mark__Sounds complicated and dangerous20:35
shamasjussi01: it says - there was an error commiting changes. it's possible that there was a problem downloading some of the packages, or that the commit would break other packages20:35
Artimusnosredna_ekim: Needless to say, dmesg seems to disagree with kpowersave.20:35
mark__Are you sure you wouldn't prefer to smuggle plutonium in your underwear?20:35
ArtimusCommand line time...20:35
tehm0nkjussi01: the links really dont help that much when you're going off of one link to install this or that, then that gives you an error20:35
ArtimusGUI's are not getting me anywhere today20:35
etfbshamas: usually that happens to me when I've got the wrong repositories in my source list20:35
earl_hey is anyone running ATI graphics20:35
jussi01shamas: click the fetch updates button20:35
etfbshamas: or when the internet connection is down20:35
tehm0nkif i follow the setups instructions for all of them they all fail at a certain point20:35
tehm0nkand there is no explaination20:36
jussi01earl_: I am, whats up?20:36
earl_i'm stilll running fglrx 8.42 - is there a newer version?20:36
jhutchinsshamas: Are you using the gui or the console?20:36
nosredna_ekimearl_: yes20:36
tehm0nkit is something simple i know it is but no one will go through it with me20:36
mark__Wait a minute.  I already have a KDE OS on CD20:36
tehm0nkby the time i try something they say to do, they quit20:36
mark__But it's Fedora20:36
nosredna_ekimearl_: 7.11, or 8.4320:36
shamasjussi01: after I hit ok here, the program is installed however next time i go to install something I have to run this debugger20:36
tehm0nkthen it's back to start20:36
earl_should i just install it using the scrip from ati.com20:36
shamasjhutchins: gui20:36
nosredna_ekimearl_: after uninstall the 8.42, yes20:36
earl_oh ew how do i do that20:36
jhutchinsshamas: Try using aptitude in the console instead, you'll get more meaningful error messages you can use.20:37
mark__Should I continue downloading Kubuntu or just install Fed 8 instead? :p20:37
nosredna_ekimearl_: run the uninstall script from /usr/share/ati20:37
jhutchins!ati | earl_20:37
ubotuearl_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:37
mark__Mike!20:37
jhutchinsmark__: I prefer kubuntu to fedora.20:38
mark__Okay20:38
mark__Kubby it is then20:38
earl_that would be fglrx-uninstall.sh right?20:38
mark__Hwo ready is KDE4?20:39
sigma_kubuntufedora is useless. its 2commercial. kubuntu is nice and fresh20:39
nosredna_ekimearl_: yup20:39
nosredna_ekimmark__: not very20:39
sigma_kubuntumark: its geting there. take it 4a test drive20:39
shamasjussi01: where is the fetch updates button?20:39
earl_okay so after i've uninstalled that, do i need to restart X before installing the new one?20:39
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nosredna_ekimnope20:39
earl_k20:40
nosredna_ekimin fact, don't, because X will crash20:40
Artimusbwahaha...  My Pentium 4 is running at 350mhz.  Beautiful20:40
mark__What's the eye candy app for Kubuntu?20:40
mark__Is that good Arti?20:40
nosredna_ekim!compiz20:40
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:40
Artimusmark__: It'll jump back up to 2.8ghz when I do something important.20:41
mark__Oh. I thought it had its own20:41
nosredna_ekimArtimus: heh20:41
nosredna_ekimmark__: kde4 does20:41
nosredna_ekimand kde3 has a pretty puny one.20:41
Artimusnosredna_ekim: I've got it on OnDemand right now.  I think that's what I used to use.  It sits low until I try to compile.20:42
mark__Do you people realise I'm replacing my entire operating system because Adobe are too lame to provide proper support for Flash on 64 bit linux?20:42
nosredna_ekimArtimus: yup.20:42
nosredna_ekimmark__: eh? what do you have installed right now?20:42
mark__Xubuntu20:42
nosredna_ekimmark__: gutsy?20:42
earl_excellent - so now i can quit this session, restart X, and choose KDE4, and my driver will work right? or do i have to do a full reboot20:42
mark__But I can't get flash working on it without having Firefox installed20:42
Artimusmark__: I ran 32-bit Kubuntu on my Athlon64 for two reasons.  Flash, and the fact that a certain kernel boot option is 32-bit only...20:42
mark__And I didn't leave Windows just to have a different beundled browser20:43
nosredna_ekimearl_: i'd restart20:43
earl_roger20:43
earl_okay let me give that a shot20:43
nosredna_ekimmark__: what browser do you use?20:43
mark__I did try running Swiftweasel, but I couldn't get my preferred apps to recognise it20:43
mark__Sorry. Swiftweasel3220:44
mark__for Athlon6420:44
eshen87hey can anyone help me with a quick problem im having on AmoroK?20:44
sigma_kubuntumark: try flock20:44
sigma_kubuntuit looks great in kubuntu20:44
nosredna_ekimmark__: then kubuntu is not going to fix your problems20:44
mark__AH20:45
PasteLwintermute_: old20:45
mark__Drat20:45
earthsound!grub20:45
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:45
nosredna_ekimeshen87: what is it?20:47
adamonline45Where do I edit my aspci settings so my laptop spares NO power when it's plugged in?20:47
thomaxadamonline45: install something like kpowermanager20:48
adamonline45thomax: Will do, ty!20:48
thomaxadamonline45: there you can configure you power management setting20:49
thomaxs20:49
thomax;-)20:49
tekteenanyone know how to configure a hp remote control (that comes with laptops) to start up a different media program then amarok20:50
sigma_kubuntuprob have2change a keymap20:51
tekteenok20:52
Charlesnew user - am i talking?20:52
tekteenCharles?20:52
tekteenu are talking20:52
Charlestekteen - Thanks for answering.20:52
tekteennp20:52
rignesAnyone ever see 7.10 go sleep for no good reason on a laptop?  I just had a laptop plugged into AC that's been on for hours (streaming music) and it just suspended to disk for no apparent reason.20:56
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habdelhi there, did anybody succeed in running kde4 RC2 on kubuntu gutsy?20:57
LjLhabdel: yes20:58
nosrednaekimhabdel: yes20:58
habdelLjL: I can't login, whenever I am trying to login, it will log out20:59
habdelIs there a trick or something ?20:59
LjLhabdel: have you done a dist-upgrade lately? there was a bug that would cause that, but i think it's been fixed days ago.20:59
nosrednaekimhabdel: run this command "touch ~/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig"20:59
ijnhi all20:59
ijnwhat app do I have in kubuntu to install a .deb file???21:00
nosrednaekimijn: dpkg, or Gdebi-kde21:00
habdelLjL: no dist-upgrade .. normal gutsy installation .. however I will try nosrednaekim trick then I will report back21:00
LjLhabdel: i mean after first installing the kde4 packages. when did you install them?21:00
ijncan I download gdebi from adept?21:01
LjL!info gdebi-kde21:01
ubotugdebi-kde: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB21:01
LjLijn: that means "yes".21:01
ijnthanks21:01
habdelnosrednaekim:  nop it is not working, I am getting this weird error "ksmserver: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libplasma.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN15KConfigSkeleton11setDefaultsEv"21:07
nosrednaekimeh?21:08
nosrednaekimwow.21:08
habdelnosrednaekim: are you using kubuntu-members-kde4's repo. ?21:08
LjLkubuntu-members-kde4?21:08
nosrednaekimhabdel: yes21:08
LjLah yes21:08
habdelnosrednaekim: this is very odd, what about your distro ? kubuntu i386 ?21:09
nosrednaekimhabdel: kubuntu gutsy amd6421:09
AmyRose!pm | baconero21:09
ubotubaconero: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.21:09
nosrednaekimhabdel: ermm try removing that file you touched...21:10
nosrednaekim"rm .kde/share/config/startupconfig"21:10
habdelnosrednaekim: I had the same problem even before touching that file21:10
nosrednaekimhabdel: oh.21:10
habdelwhat about you LjL ? which kubuntu are using ?21:11
LjLsame as you21:11
nosrednaekimhabdel: did you run RC1?21:11
habdelnosrednaekim: yep. It was from different repo. I think it was thom* something21:11
Dr_willis!find thom21:12
ubotuFound: mathomatic, mathomatic-primes21:12
nosrednaekimhabdel: ah... ok do " rm -rf .kde4" make SURE you put .kde4 there ;)21:12
nosrednaekimhabdel: terrence simpson no doubt21:12
sgreetings21:13
nosrednaekimhello s21:14
shello nos21:14
sjust wondering if someone could help me with my wireless problem.21:15
nosrednaekimwhats the problem?21:15
habdelnosrednaekim: nop, it seems a library error not a configuration one21:15
ijnhey guys does it worth it to try install kde4 now or wait for it release from repos???21:15
nosrednaekimhabdel: did you uninstall all the RC1 pakages before loading the RC2?21:16
Dr_willisijn,  if you want to test kde4 - i susggest using some of hte kde4 live cd's that are out21:16
si bought an ASUS 107G wireless card, since i was told on the ubuntuforums that this card has native support21:16
showever, i am unable to connect to my router21:16
habdelnop, I didnt21:16
ijnoh it still in test ??21:16
habdelnosrednaekim: I will try to do that right now, remove all kde4 then reinstall them21:16
nosrednaekim!kde4 | habdel follow these directions for what to uninstall/install21:16
ubotuhabdel follow these directions for what to uninstall/install: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php21:16
si found my wireless working with kubuntu 6.1021:17
ijnthnks21:17
swhen i upgraded to 7.10 (from 7.04), my wireless brokedown21:17
nosrednaekims: so this card worked in 7.04?21:17
snope21:17
sit worked only in 6.1021:18
sand not since.21:18
* habdel reinstalling kde4 again21:18
nosrednaekimoh.21:18
swhich is odd21:18
nosrednaekimwhats the chipset in it? ralink? atheros?21:18
sraling 250021:18
s*ralink21:18
LjL!brokenkde421:18
ubotuIf you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal21:18
nosrednaekims: ah yeah, plenty of people complaing about regressions with them21:19
tehm0nkok i'm gonna reinstall right now21:19
sis there a solution?21:19
sor should i move to the newest testing release?21:19
tehm0nkin the last page before starting the installation there is a advanced butt21:19
nosrednaekims: I don't know, look on the forums, if thre is, it will be there.21:19
ibilicyou know how in windows when programs start running slow or something freezes, you restart your computer... is there an equivalent in Kubuntu (only without restarting)?21:19
nosrednaekimibilic: whats wrong?21:20
snos: thanks. i did the steps some folks posted there21:20
sno luck, though21:20
tehm0nki clicked on it and it says something about the Grub install21:20
tehm0nkit says (hd0)21:20
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: leave that as default21:20
tehm0nkand it dont work21:20
tehm0nk?21:20
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Shouldn't that be (hd0,1) ?21:20
tehm0nkthe first partition21:20
nosrednaekimardchoille: he's installing it on a partition?21:21
tehm0nkor should it be (hd0,0)21:21
J-RHello everybody!21:21
J-RI changed my monitor from a LCD 17 inch to a CRT 14 inch.21:21
nosrednaekimfirst partition would be hd0,021:21
J-RI run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.21:21
J-RThe login screen of KDE is OK. The initialization screen of KDE is also OK.21:21
J-RBut, after that there is only a blank screen and I cannot do anythin more.21:21
ardchoilleAh, right21:21
J-RIs there some configuration file of KDE that I have do delete or chage?21:21
Dr_willisthe users can have their own resolution settings i recall.  But i dont rember where thats saved at.21:21
ibilicnosrednaekim: well it's just that firefox and LinuxDC++ and Azureus and everything in general just seems to be responding slowly and buggy... Firefox closed a couple of times for no reason21:21
tehm0nkbrb while it copies stuff21:22
nosrednaekimibilic: logging out should do the trick21:22
Dr_willisJ-R,  you could move the .kde dir and see if it works.   Then explore  the .kde dir looking for the setting file. :)21:22
ibilicnosrednaekim: will try, thanks!21:22
nosrednaekimhave to go everyone! good luck everyone.21:23
J-RDR_willis, Thank you. Do you know the setting file's name?21:25
J-RNow I'm in Windows. So I need to grabber all the information before to turn to Kubuntu. Sorry21:25
Dr_willisJ-R,  Nope.  You could alwyas use a console based irc client to get here from linux, also you could try making a new user. and seeing if it works for them21:26
J-RDr_willis. Thank you again. I'll try this.21:27
SpookyETHI21:35
SpookyETAm I the only one who thinks KDE4 looks a bit fat?21:36
hitmanWillyit looks fat, but actually runs 40% faster than 3.5, with the debug code still in21:41
hitmanWillyerr, 40% less drain21:41
hitmanWillyon system resources21:42
rencore_hello21:42
rencore_i have tried installing kde4 but now it says i have unmet dependencies and i try apt-get install -f and it doesnt work21:43
hitmanWillyrencore_: try this link http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php21:46
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rencore_remove the stuff its trying to install21:47
rencore_how can i*21:48
hitmanWillyrencore_: if its installing the unmet dependencies, what's the problem?21:49
rencore_it isnt though21:49
rencore_i try -f install and it doesnt do anything21:49
hitmanWillytry this in a konsole: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs521:50
rencore_i get a big list of stuff21:52
rencore_should i pastebin it21:52
hitmanWillyalso, did you add the repo to sources.list?21:52
rencore_yes21:52
hitmanWillyok, yes, pastebin that list please21:52
rencore_k21:53
hitmanWillythat's from the remove cmd, right?21:54
rencore_yes21:56
rencore_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48375/21:56
hitmanWillyok, pastebin your sources.list for me please, i want to make sure its set up correctly21:58
rencore_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48377/21:59
hitmanWillyok, i see the problem, you have the old repo location22:00
rencore_ok22:00
hitmanWillychange the last line to read: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main22:01
rencore_ok u should have that updated on the kubuntu site because under RC2 it has the one i added22:02
hitmanWillyok, never mind, I was looking at the RC1 page...my bad :)22:03
rencore_oh22:04
LjL!brokenkde422:04
ubotuIf you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal22:04
rencore_ok22:04
hitmanWillysee, now the professionals come in :)22:04
habdelLjL: thanks, it is working now . It was a conflict between RC1 and RC2 packages22:05
hitmanWillyso RC2 is the latest then?  heh, have to go update my buntu box then :)22:06
rencore_LjL, i did that but it is still trying to intall the broken dependencies which arent working22:07
rencore_how do i clear that out22:07
LjLrencore_: what happens if you type that (don't press Y, just pastebin what it says after the command)22:08
rencore_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48380/22:09
rencore_any ideas?22:15
rencore_Ljl?22:15
LjLrencore_: it helps if you highlight me, i'm in other channels too... anyway tried sudo apt-get remove kde4admin kde4artwork kde4base kdebase-bin kdepimlibs5?22:16
rencore_yea22:17
rencore_same thing22:17
LjLrencore_: sudo apt-get install kdelibs5?22:17
rencore_says its already installed22:17
LjLrencore_: remove it, then reinstall it22:18
LjLat least try22:18
rencore_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48385/22:19
rencore_LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48385/22:19
LjLrencore_: but it did uninstall kdelibs5?22:23
rencore_i think so22:24
rencore_it doesnt say22:24
LjLrencore_: uhm try -f install now22:24
rencore_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48387/22:26
rencore_LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48387/22:26
LjLrencore_: uhm that might not be bad, now do this again22:27
LjL!brokenkde422:27
ubotuIf you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal22:27
LjL(careful, *look* at what packages it's going to remove, first)22:27
rencore_LjL, it doesnt even attempt to remove then22:28
LjLrencore_: says what?22:28
hitmanWillyok, dumb question here, are you trying to do this with kde4 running?22:28
rencore_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48388/22:29
rencore_no22:29
hitmanWillyok, just making sure :)22:29
rencore_unless kde4 is running on kde322:29
hitmanWillyalso, it might be an amd 64 issue22:30
rencore_could be22:30
rencore_this is insane22:31
rencore_gah22:31
rencore_LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48388/22:31
hitmanWillywell, i'm currently doing the upgrade from xfce, and it seems to be working fine, may wanna try from a different WM or a raw console22:32
rencore_yea22:32
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rencore_LjL, it says my software index is broke when gnome tries to update22:37
kristian_hi an alle22:39
SlimG2Could anyone point me in the direction of a graphical audio editor capable of splitting a big multitrack .wav into smaller singletrack .wav files manually using the pointer and a graphical VU meter display?22:39
LjLrencore_, as you can imagine i'm a bit at a loss, but try this22:41
LjLsudo apt-get --reinstall install apparmor apparmor-utils gpsd kappfinder kate kcontrol kde-icons-oxygen kde4libs-bin kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-workspace-data kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmenuedit konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver ksplash ksysguard22:41
LjLksysguardd ktip kwin libgps16 libkonq4 libpoppler-glib2 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler2 libsearchclient0 libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigihtmlgui0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 pnm2ppa poppler-utils python-qt4 python-qt4-common python-qt4-dbus python-sip4 strigi-daemon22:41
ArtimusHow can I make my clock kicker app transparent again?  It's on "Pain clock".  I accidentally set a background color, now I can't make it transparent (so my kicker wallpaper shows behind it).22:41
rencore_ok22:41
rencore_im removing everything in synaptic right now22:42
rencore_then i will try reinstalling22:42
Manadhi22:42
ubuntu_sal22:43
ManadI was looking around on the keyboard command shortcuts, and could not see an entry for minimizing all windows/showing the desktop. I wanted to set WIN+D to do it.22:43
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cristiansalut22:43
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Manadnevermind, just noticed I could select a Windows theme. Wow.22:44
Manad<3 KDE22:44
Manadhow can I make Konqueror auto-load the File Management view profile when I launch it?22:51
rencore_LjL, so i got everything to install ok but when i select kde4 in the sessions it doesnt load22:53
LjLrencore_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:53
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rencore_LjL, ok the session lasts less than 10 seconds22:56
SelfarianIs Konquerer a very slow browser?22:57
LjLSelfarian: not usually22:57
LjLrencore_: dunno :|22:57
Selfarianis firefox better? :-)22:58
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fignewKonqueror is a great web browser22:59
fignewFaster than firefox, but not as compatible22:59
fignewso you'll maybe come across a few websites that don't fully render correctly :)23:00
Manadcan't be faster than Firefox, they use the same engine.23:00
Dr_willishow do you even benchmark 'faster'23:00
Dr_willismake a 10000mb html doc?23:00
fignewManad: they do not use the same engine23:00
fignewDr_willis: there's various benchmarks23:01
Manadthey don't? My bad, I saw the "browser signature" option and it said "Mozilla"23:01
Dr_willisit spits out the same 'id' :)23:01
fignewhttp://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html23:01
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fignewManad: It does that because some websites are configured to tell you do get "a compatible browser" if it detects a non standard user agent23:02
fignewthat's why opera claims it's some other browser by default.23:02
Manadso anyone know how I can have it autoload the File Management profile when it opens? I RTFMed and googled, it's not even brought up. Well the manual mentions instructions on creating a new shortcut that launches the profile, but it must be out of date because the things they talk about don't exist on the Kubuntu shortcut creator.23:02
fignewkfmclient openProfile webbrowsing23:04
Dr_willishmm.. its a command line option to konqueror i belive to tellit to use a specific profile23:04
fignewyes, what Dr_willis said23:05
Dr_williskonqueror --help mentions it..23:05
Dr_williskonqueror  --profile <profile>       Profile to open23:05
Dr_willishmm   --preload                 Preload for later use23:05
Dr_willisnever noticed that one befor. :)23:05
fignewDr_willis: preloading should be automatic (at least, there's a setting for in)23:07
fignewit*23:07
Dr_willisyea. unless you are using a setup like i got on my laptop. with the jwm window manager. :)23:08
Manadgot it now. I think the space in "File Management" was causing me issues. I saved it as "best" and now it loads, thanks.23:08
Dr_willisbut proberly wont gain too much  for me.23:08
ManadAlthough, the help file does not mention --profile <profile>  , it says "openProfile <profile>"23:08
Selfarianhm23:11
Selfarianhow can i see, if i have gusty?23:11
LjL!version23:12
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell23:12
Selfarianthanks23:12
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Ace2016anyone here know why my gksudo apps look horrible?23:21
Ace2016like when i'm in kde and i run kdesu synaptic or gksudo gnome it looks really horrible, but if i login as root (gui) then the gtk apps have the correct theme23:22
Manadcan I get people's opinion on Strigi? I'm the sort of person who always disabled Windows Indexing Service. How is Strigi better?23:23
Dr_willisManad,  I hate it :)23:26
Dr_willisfor some weird reason if i type in a bad url in konquerors address it goes to strigi://Somting23:26
Dr_willisand then i cant chagne the address/location i start to type in google.com or whatever and it resets back to strigi://23:27
Ace2016well i'm not sure about stringi but i use locate and i only update it when i need to use it, i just do sudo updatedb and search, so it doesn't slow stuff down when i'm not suing it, but i plan to set it to run at 3am since i've most likely left the pc on and gone to sleep23:27
Dr_willisi have to close konquer23:27
Manadwhat is locate, ace? another search service?23:32
rencore_LjL, i have everything installed why does kde4 not boot when i select the session in gdm23:34
LjLrencore_, i don't know.23:35
Ace2016Manad: it just finds filenames, like locate ace will find say /home/ace/* and give a list of all files with ace in the location name, its great when i'm looking for config files i mess with because i always make a backup and call it filename_Ace2016_Backup_YYYYMMDD23:36
Dr_willisyou did alter the .desktop entry for gdm like the docs say?23:36
lovredoes anyone have any idea why my microphone is not working? Its all normal in mixer and everything, but it doesnt work. (Kubuntu)23:36
galorinI'm having a problem with amarok and saving to a media device.  Can anyone recommend a good transcoding plugin as a starting point?23:36
rencore_Dr_willis, no what do i need to alter it doesnt say that on the rc2 instructions23:36
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Dr_willisused to be there was some exports needed befor running kde423:37
rencore_hmm23:37
Dr_willisI dont mess with it any more. so it may have changed23:37
Dr_willis!kde423:37
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php23:37
rencore_kde3 runs fine but for some reason kde4 doesnt load23:38
Dr_willistry starting it from 'startx' and the .xinitrc file instead of using gdm perhaps.23:40
Dr_willisSeems the kde4 docs have changed a lot since last i saw them23:40
Manadhow can I force-mount an NTFS drive that was not properly shutdown? Xubuntu's file manager gave me the command to do it when it spit out the error, but Konqueror doesn't23:42
lovreshould alsa-utils service be set to run on boot for the microphone to work?23:44
ubuntu_Hi can somebody help me please, I am trying to partition a USB hard drive using qtparted, and I set the new size of the partition, I click OK and nothing happens23:57
ubuntu_It doesnt even preview the changes so that I can click Commit23:58
ubuntu_And whenever I click OK after setting the new size of the partition, it looks like an error box comes up that I have to click OK on but there is no text to tell me what's wrong?23:59

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