[00:14] <wolfgang> look that- http://wolfgang-city.myminicity.com/
[01:01] <slangasek> Riddell: bug #156320 is assigned to you and marked as assigned to you and attached to the hardy-alpha-2 milestone, but the submitter shows an error message mentioning feisty; can you help me fill in the blanks here? (wasn't this bug already fixed for gutsy?)
[01:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 156320 in update-manager "[kde] copy XAUTHORITY may fail and crashes the upgrader (was: Upgrade tool crashed when upgrading 7.04 -> 7.10)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156320
[01:38] <tekteen> Hi guys. Anyone know how ubuntu figures out ide/sata drives are hard drives and which are cdroms. I am creating a toolkit that partitions a hd.
[01:40] <sladen> they're all SCSI now ;-)   Except for PCMCIA card readers, which are IDE
[01:40] <tekteen> I need to figure out what devs are hds
[01:40] <slangasek> tekteen: /sys
[01:40] <tekteen> thanks
[01:41] <tekteen> also I have a kind of noob question about launchpad
[01:41] <tekteen> can you submit a blueprint if you have no Idea how it would be done?
[01:42] <tekteen> as a suggestion.
[01:42] <slangasek> you can, but it's unlikely that someone will take notice of it
[01:42] <tekteen> ok
[01:42] <tekteen> tha
[01:42] <sladen> tekteen: /sys/class/scsi_device/*  vs.  /sys/class/scsi_disk/*
[01:42] <tekteen> thanks*
[01:42] <tekteen> ok
[01:42] <tekteen> thanks again
[01:43] <sladen> you can file a wishlist bugreport though
[01:43] <tekteen> ok
[01:44] <sladen> tekteen: remember, you have the source code:   apt-get source debian-installer
[01:52] <slangasek> er? where did he say anything about the installer?
[03:02] <mekius> Anyone know if there are plans to include pata_via in future kernel releases?
[03:05] <_MMA_> mekius: #ubuntu-kernel
[03:05] <mekius> ah :)
[03:05] <mekius> thx
[03:05] <_MMA_> ;)
[03:06] <mekius> hopefully get an answer :)
[03:08] <_MMA_> mekius: As its late in EU and east-cost of the states you might have to wait a bit.
[03:08] <mekius> ok, that's fine
[03:08] <mekius> just want to get everything out so when someone does answer it's not something like "More details" :P
[03:09] <slangasek> it's late in the west coast states too
[03:09] <mekius> 9pm here
[03:09] <mekius> not too late :)
[03:14] <slangasek> mekius: a little late for finding a kernel developer on a friday night
[03:14] <zul> most of them are our drinking
[03:14] <zul> or so they say...
[03:28] <mekius> slangasek: Well I just got time to diagnose the issue :)
[03:28] <mekius> slangasek: Obviously not looking for miracles here, in fact I didn't expect anything, but figured I'd give it a shot anyway :)
[04:02] <chuckf> quick question. Who would be the best contact for discussing UDS planning with?
[08:52] <mekius> Anyone know of any good documentation on discover2 since Progeny is dead and took the docs with them it seems.
[08:53] <Burgundavia> mekius: are they not in a doc package?
[08:56] <mekius> not that I can find
[08:57] <mekius> At least nothing that actually explains things like how to specify options for a driver and such
[08:57] <mekius> I found a README
[08:58] <Burgundavia> mekius: you know that Ubuntu doesn't use discover2, right?
[08:58] <mekius> nvm
[08:58] <mekius> gOS does
[08:58] <mekius> does ubuntu still use discover1?
[08:58] <mekius> is there a reason why it still uses discover1?
[08:58] <persia> mekius: You may have found it :)
[08:59] <mekius> i found a guide.txt
[08:59] <Mithrandir> we're going to get rid of discover1 too, fwiw.
[08:59] <mekius> will take me some time to dig through though
[08:59] <Burgundavia> mekius: I suspect largely because discover is mostly superceded by udev, hal, etc.
[08:59] <mekius> Mithrandir: yeah, I thought I saw something like that
[08:59] <Burgundavia> the last piece, afaik, is the X driver stuff, which is going away soonish as well
[08:59] <mekius> Burgundavia: oh?
[08:59] <Burgundavia> mekius: what are you trying to do?
[08:59] <mekius> What is replacing that?
[08:59] <Burgundavia> upstream X stuff
[09:00] <Burgundavia> I really don't know more beyond that
[09:00] <mekius> Well, dealing with some VIA hardware and need to load the openchrome driver, but with certain options
[09:00] <mekius> I could have swore I saw some way to do this at some point
[09:00] <mekius> Can't find it now though
[09:00] <mekius> We'll see how good the X stuff is
[09:02] <mekius> ok, think i found it
[10:03] <fabio> hello friends
[10:03] <fabio> any one know seyon?
[10:04] <fabio> i think is portuguese
[11:30] <Riddell> slangasek: not really sure what's going on there
[11:31] <Riddell> slangasek: possibly he doesn't have XAUTHORITY set (which is done by kdesu)
[11:53] <slangasek> Riddell: so it's not really confirmed as applying to hardy at all?
[11:54] <slangasek> Riddell: btw, "Filen eller katalogen [...]" is ENOENT
[12:32] <Riddell> slangasek: what does that mean? :)
[12:42] <slangasek> Riddell: "no such file or directory"?
[14:48] <Riddell> slangasek: I wonder if he's started adept through sudo instead of kdesu
[16:07] <mattwalston> Any known issues with current dhcpd3-server init scripts?  New to ubuntu and can't find the bug tracker.
[16:08] <persia> mattwalston: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3
[16:09] <mattwalston> persia: thanks
[16:09] <persia> mattwalston: Also, you might want #ubuntu for support or #ubuntu-bugs for bug discussion.
[17:01] <tekteen> hi guys. anyone know how to run a interactive program on startup on the ubuntu live cd. When I run a script from rc.local it does not allow for user input.
[17:21] <sladen> tekteen: if it's a GUI app that needs the input, run it after X is up.  If it's a console app, run it in gnome-terminal, again, after X is up
[17:22] <soren> Hmm... What's stdin connected to during startup?
[17:22] <soren> Nothing?
[17:22] <sladen> tekteen: pop something in the .xsession, or run a casper hook to inject something
[17:22] <sladen>  /dev/tty ;-)
[17:23] <soren> So why does that not allow for user input?
[17:23] <tekteen> sladen: I want to start up a menu
[17:23] <tekteen> sladen: the menu is in bash
[17:24] <tekteen> sladen: if possible I want it to automatically go to terminal 2 and run the menu.sh
[17:26] <tekteen> sladen: I created the cd from scratch so x does not start automatically (I did that intentionally)
[17:26] <sladen> tekteen: remove splash and quiet from the kernel command line, that might/should work
[17:27] <tekteen> sladen: how would that help?
[17:27] <sladen> tekteen: you wouldn't be on vt8 with usplash stealing your input
[17:28] <tekteen> the splash is not stealing the input
[17:28] <sladen> tekteen: chvt and openvt will help you open a program on another console, if you really need to do that
[17:28] <tekteen> ok
[17:29] <tekteen> can I then move what the user sees to another console?
[17:29] <tekteen> I need to move the user to another console then run the menu in the console
[17:29] <sladen> tekteen: you can do two things  (a) run programs on particular consoles  (b) select which console the user is shown.  If those two coincide then the user might see the request
[17:30] <tekteen> yep
[17:30] <tekteen> I have no idea how to do them
[17:32] <tekteen> sladen: thanks
[18:35] <Cacahouete> Hello all!
[18:35] <Cacahouete> I want to contribute to Ubuntu. Can you give me some advices to start?
[18:36] <Cacahouete> I have read the page about contributing on ubuntu.com
[18:36] <Cacahouete> but I need more informations.
[18:57] <warp10> Hi all
[19:21] <fabio_> people
[19:21] <fabio_> where is the channel pt?
[19:23] <somerville32> fabio_, pt?
[19:23] <fabio_> portuguese
[19:23] <somerville32> #ubuntu-pt ?
[19:25] <geser> !pt
[19:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:27] <blizzow> How should I go about patching and recompiling a single driver/kernel module?  Specifically the cx88-alsa module.  I already installed the linux-source package and patched the /usr/src/linux-source-`uname -r`/drivers/media/video/cx88-alsa.c file.
[20:33] <fabio_> people
[20:33] <fabio_> i cant instal one game in cedega
[20:34] <fabio_> says
[20:34] <fabio_> Sorry, game folders may not have slashes in their names (either forward or backward).
[20:34] <fabio_> what is slashes
[20:34] <Burgundavia> fabio_: this is not a support channel
[20:34] <Burgundavia> blizzow: nor is it a channel to help you compile stuff
[20:35] <fabio_> im banned in ubuntu
[20:35] <fabio_> channel
[20:35] <fabio_> :(
[20:35] <blizzow> Burgundavia: This is the channel where people who do dev work on ubuntu idle no?
[20:36] <Burgundavia> blizzow: yes, but that is a support question. if they take them in #ubuntu-kernel I would try there
[20:36] <soren> Cedega questions in #ubuntu-kernel? What?
[20:36] <blizzow> I'll try there then, thanks.
[20:37] <soren> Er. no.
[20:37] <soren> that's all wrong.
[20:37] <soren> That's not the right place for it at all?
[20:37] <Burgundavia> soren: fabio was asking about cedega, blizzow was aksing aboutg compilig a kernel module
[20:37] <Burgundavia> soren: again, you need to have less IRC channels open :)
[20:37] <soren> Burgundavia: Gah..
[20:38] <Chipzz> soren: fabio_ was the one asking about cedega, not blizzow
[20:38] <soren> Yes, I got it now. Thanks.
[20:38]  * soren crawls back under his rock
[20:39] <Chipzz> whoops
[20:39] <Chipzz> soren: didn't see Burgundavia already said that; apologies
[20:40] <Burgundavia> Chipzz: I just second prize in the "not paying attention before I type" award
[20:40] <Burgundavia> I give you, arther
[20:41] <Chipzz> Burgundavia: yeah, not totally awake yet I suppose
[20:41] <Chipzz> and it's 9:41 PM here :P
[20:52] <fabio_> any one can help?
[20:53] <Chipzz> fabio_: 21:35 < Burgundavia> fabio_: this is not a support channel
[20:54] <tekteen> fabio_: go to #ubuntu (or #kubuntu)
[20:59] <nixternal> Riddell: fancy joining #kubuntu-devel at all :) we miss you! :)
[21:01] <Chipzz> fabio_: if you can't get an answer on #ubuntu (due to people not knowing or being banned), the forums are another alternative
[21:05] <norsetto> fabio_: and https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu too
[21:31] <nixternal> fabio_: join #cedega for your support need please
[23:02] <TheMuso> c
[23:02] <TheMuso> argh