Jack_Sparrow[17:09] <sleepcat> NetLarIrvine: if you're having trouble with ubuntu, you may try Solaris 10.  It is a bit easier to get going01:13
somerville32What is the factoid about compiling your own drivers?01:18
LjLcan't find any01:23
LjLthere is of course !kernel01:23
LjLbut no generic factoid about module assistant01:23
LjLthere's this01:23
ubotuWant to use alsa 0.11? Grab and install http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.11-2_all.deb, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant and build-essential and run sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source01:23
stdinhmm, isn't that a bit old now?01:25
LjLno idea01:25
LjLit's the only factoid mentioning module-assistant01:25
stdinwell gutsy has 1.0.14-1ubuntu2 so it seems a bit out of date01:26
ardchoilleGutsy here: alsa-base-1.0.14-1ubuntu201:26
ardchoillestdin types faster than I do :/01:27
LjLwell who cares about that factoid anyway01:27
LjLbut perhaps we should have one about using module-assistant01:27
LjLcan't find much on the wiki either01:28
stdinme either01:29
stdinall I can find is a spec for module-assistant01:31
LjLthe one to run it automatically after kernel updates?01:31
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »01:36
ubotumodules is <alias> blacklist - added by LjL on 2007-01-26 02:51:5501:37
LjL!no modules is <reply> To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard !kernel, install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see !blacklist01:37
ubotuI'll remember that LjL01:37
somerville32troll in #ubuntu-offtopic01:38
somerville32LjL, Maybe he should be klined? He is just trolling channels at random it seems01:39
LjLhow many channels i didn't know the existence of, and am glad i don't, i wonder01:41
somerville32yea, pretty freaky01:41
elkbuntuhow on earth did you find that one01:41
LjLi didn't, this sam troll just mentioned it on #teensonlinux01:42
LjLouch i just couldn't resist01:43
* somerville32 doesn't want to know what LjL just gave into :P01:44
LjLsomerville32: that little comment on #teens01:44
* somerville32 nods.01:45
ubotuMenZa called the ops in #ubuntu (motherlode)01:46
ubotunickrud called the ops in #ubuntu ()01:47
naliothLjL: klined01:48
LjLyeah, saw him in #gentoo :|01:48
LjLardchoille: client coming for you02:50
ardchoilleLjL: ?02:51
LjLardchoille, unless i'm mistaken and "ardachcile" is someone else, but i doubt it02:51
LjLperhaps he won't come02:52
LjLanyway FYI02:52
ardchoilleLjL: I'm confused02:52
LjL[03:50:06] <nonoo> unban me from #kubuntu someone02:52
LjL[03:50:10] <nonoo> ardachcile is a faggit02:52
ardchoillein #kubuntu? or PM?02:52
LjL[03:50:36] <LjL> nonoo: #ubuntu-ops02:52
ardchoilleThe only ban I have set was atwo02:53
ardchoilleYou remember him?02:53
elkbuntuardchoille, it's completly concivable they've changed nick a few times to try get back in02:53
LjLsomething we'll find out as soon as the bantracker loads02:53
LjLwhich is probably tomorrow02:53
ardchoilleaccording to /whois, that's him02:54
ardchoilleelkbuntu: Yeah02:54
LjLit is indeed02:54
LjLi don't think he should join #ubuntu again, either, seeing his eagerness to call people names02:55
ardchoilleHe was causing trouble, cursing, general bad attitude, disrespect to other, disregarding channel rules.. he had many warning from several ops. I finally got tired of it and banned him.02:55
LjLnow he's atwo102:55
LjLdon't think he has a clue how to get a different address, though, so let him change nicknames as he likes02:56
elkbuntuthat 'realname' he has set is ringing bells02:56
LjLit is?02:56
ardchoillehe started out as atwo1, got banned from a channel, changed nicks to atwo and now he is nonoo02:57
ardchoilleSounds of ban evasion to me.02:57
elkbuntuyeah, but i have no clue who it's a reminder of02:57
LjLno, he's atwo1 again now02:57
LjLanyway, he's certainly attempted ban evasion, but will hardly manage it02:57
elkbuntubut i know he's not the first troll to use that realname02:57
LjLelkbuntu, i'm grepping logs, but i can't remember02:58
elkbuntuLjL, so it's familiar to you too?02:58
LjLno, not really, but perhaps there's something in the logs02:59
ardchoilleWhere is the ban tracker?02:59
ardchoilleDo I have access to it?02:59
LjLardchoille, nope, you currently don't have access to it, we'll need seveas02:59
ardchoilleI should ask him to give me access03:00
LjLthe only Pandemonium i have is on march 25, nickname (not realname), not kicked or banned03:00
elkbuntuhis presence is somewhat required, so you could be waiting a while03:00
ardchoilleNo problem, I can wait :)03:01
elkbuntuLjL, i cant find it in my logs either, but im starting to think the server tab doesnt get logged in xchat03:04
stdinit does, probably ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-.log03:05
stdinmore like ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-ubuntu\ servers.log  actually03:08
elkbuntuaaah... there it hides03:08
stdinodd naming scheme though03:10
ardchoilleelkbuntu: >03:12
elkbuntuall i needed to do was grep all my ubuntu logs:03:12
elkbuntuJul 11 01:07:00 *       pandemonium (n=pandemon@p3EE020E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #ubuntu03:12
elkbuntuJul 11 01:07:10 <pandemonium>   hez03:12
elkbuntuJul 11 01:07:12 <pandemonium>   hez03:12
elkbuntuJul 11 01:07:20 <pandemonium>   hey....whats up here03:12
elkbuntuJul 11 01:08:08 *       pandemonium has quit (Client Quit)03:12
ardchoilleWhat did you find?03:12
elkbuntui remember that now03:12
elkbuntuthis is proof of how obscure my brain works03:13
elkbuntuLjL, i was thinking of what you found03:15
elkbuntuactually no, it's a different one03:15
elkbuntuthe pandemonium person above also had connection issues on aug 603:16
ardchoilleHow fasat are the logs updated?03:17
elkbuntuardchoille, the logs? you mean the ones i log locally? realtime03:17
elkbuntuubuntulog, every 20 mins or so03:17
ardchoilleNo, the http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ logs03:17
elkbuntusee latter03:17
elkbuntuwell that's what fabbione used to run them at, i dont know what the sysadmins run them at now03:18
elkbuntualso, if you ever notice them missing, let one of us know so we can poke the sysadmins03:19
ardchoilleWell, I found the place in the logs where I banned him, but it doesn't show in the logs03:24
stdinardchoille: well, if you want a log http://stdin.pastebin.com/d66fa01cc is from the bantracker03:28
ardchoillestdin: Ah, thakn you much03:28
ardchoilleLast three lines of that log03:29
stdinyep, the bantracker logs 200 lines from the event (the /kick in this case)03:30
ardchoilleWow, nice tracker :)03:30
stdinit comes in handy from time to time :)03:31
naliothstdin: i have a question03:31
stdinnalioth: yes?03:31
naliothwhy isn't there a dedicated KDE web browser?03:32
stdinyou mean konqueror?03:32
naliothit's not dedicated03:32
stdinit is more so in kde403:32
naliothit doesn't have web history, or web-centric stuff03:32
naliothknow of any QT/kde based web browser (besides konq)?03:34
stdinkonqueror generally a jack of all trades, the only other Qt bases browser I know off the top of my head is opera03:35
naliothopera is closed source03:35
naliothand it's not kde-centric03:35
stdinthe kde4 konqueror is more web-centric03:35
stdinand it does have a history03:36
naliothso i have to wait?03:36
stdinthat's part of the reason to make dolphin the file manager and konqueror a (real) web browser in kde403:37
stdinkonqueror didn't really have a purpose as such03:37
naliothi prefer konqueror as file mangler03:37
naliothunless dolphin has made great leaps03:37
stdinif you're comparing it to the kde3 version then don't :p they are extremely different03:38
stdindolphin is actually useful in kde4 :)03:38
stdinand not as clunky03:39
ardchoilleThat's very good to hear03:39
ardchoilleBecause I was severely disappointed with dolphin in gutsy03:39
* nalioth has kde4 on his test machine, but is currently unable to change over to it . . . .03:40
stdinyou can start dolphin from your kde3 session too, just run "dolphin-kde4"  it will work from the kmenu as soon as it gets backported03:41
stdin(or I may just upload it to the -kde4 ppa myself)03:41
naliothso it runs now, but won't run from the kmenu until it gets backported?03:41
stdinwell the .desktop files were a bit broken because the Exec= line was wrong03:42
naliothcould not open dolphin-kde403:42
stdinyou have it installed?03:43
naliothstdin: you packaged it03:43
stdinyeah, but I don't know if you installed it03:43
naliothi installed everything that had "kde4" in it03:44
stdinwow :p03:44
stdinwhat version of dolphin-kde4 do you have? (should be4:3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1)03:44
naliothyour update mechanism isn't working right, i don't think03:45
nalioth i've got 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa103:47
stdinahh, you haven't got the new PPA ;)03:47
stdindeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/ gutsy main03:47
nalioththe PPA doesn't update it's release.gz?03:47
stdinwe moved it to another ppa so more than one person could upload (other than me)03:48
naliothnice of you to tell us  :|03:48
stdinit's on the announcement page...03:49
naliothi don't surf the web much03:50
stdinit's in the #kubuntu topic too, and on !kde4 :)03:50
naliothi don't talk to bots, either  :(03:50
tonyyarussoI'd sure hope you read topics though03:51
stdinthe only reason we used my PPA in the first place was because it was already built there and would take ages to backport or build in the kubuntu-members ppa03:51
naliothstdin: would you like access to a powerpc box?03:52
stdinto do what?03:52
naliothto do what, indeed.03:52
stdinI've never used anything powerpc, never had a mac03:53
naliothbut lots of ubuntu users _DO_ have powerpc hardware, and might like to try out kde403:53
stdinright now the only way to build powerpc packages is with the ubuntu build system, PPA run on xen so can only build i386/amd64/lpia03:55
naliothare you kidding me?03:55
naliothi used to build powerpc packages03:55
stdinwell, that's what the launchpad admins tell me03:56
naliothyou can build packages anywhere03:56
stdincan you install the powerpc debs from apt in a chroot on a i386 box?03:57
naliothstdin: a chroot only works for simliar arch packages03:58
stdinthat's what all the packages are built in though, chroots with only build-essential installed03:58
naliothstdin: get the PM?03:59
stdinyeah just noticed it, I had sound muted03:59
ubotuyama called the ops in #ubuntu-au ()04:09
ubotupraetorian called the ops in #ubuntu-au ()04:09
ubotuyama called the ops in #ubuntu-au ()04:46
elkbuntuit's just testing, somerville32 you dont need to be there04:46
ubotuyama called the ops in #ubuntu-au ()04:48
elkbuntuignore again04:48
ubotuIn ubotu, Jordan_U said: windows is For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:59
ubotunickrud called the ops in #ubuntu ()06:18
Tm_TJordan_U: ?06:20
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:20
Jordan_UTm_T, I don't think the immature windows bashing is needed06:21
Tm_TJordan_U: agreed there, it's joke, but not nice one06:21
ubotuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!06:21
Tm_Tnixternal: what'dya say?06:22
Jordan_Unixternal, I'll take some free money06:22
nixternalso will I06:22
Tm_Tnixternal: about !windows factoid, should do we remove the health institute bit?06:22
Jordan_Unixternal, Nice, I hear nixternal is giving some away06:22
Tm_Tubotu: no windows is <reply> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:24
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubotu: no windows is <reply> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:24
Tm_Tubotu: no windows is <reply> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:24
ubotuI'll remember that Tm_T06:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]06:24
Tm_TJordan_U: happy with?06:24
Jordan_UTm_T, Yes, thank you06:25
nixternalas long as the !windows doesn't have something controversial or disrespectful, then it is fine06:25
Tm_Tnixternal: isn't "or your nearest mental health institute" disrespectful then? ;)06:25
nixternalplus, the person who created it, probably has a windows machine on his/her desk06:27
Hobbseethat's offensive towards the mental health institutes.  i'm sure they want regular visitors too, to help out.06:27
elkbuntumany of us think the wording of bug #1 itself to be disrespectful in itself, since it should be 'proprietary software' rather than 'microsoft'06:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106:27
nixternalbug #1 is flat out stupid anyways...after they tested that LP worked with it, they should have removed it or changed it06:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106:29
nixternalshut up ubotu06:29
elkbuntunixternal, having it there as like a mission statement/goal is fine, but being so shallow as to target one single company is ridiculou06:29
nixternalvery true06:30
elkbuntunot to mention in itself non-CoC compliant ;)06:30
Tm_Tokie, see you next year or so ->07:00
Myrttiam I not getting it, but do peeople really need medibuntu still?07:23
ardchoilleMyrtti: I need libdvdcss2. I realise I can get that in other ways, but I feel Medibuntu is important.07:32
ardchoilleI mean, who knows what new and exciting things it may hold in the future.07:32
* Hobbsee has only found that she needs libdvdcss2 from it.07:33
ardchoilleI used the Seveas repo in Edgy and I think it's good to have a repo for things that can't be put into the official repos.07:34
ardchoilleJust my opinion, tho07:34
tritiumI'm having the *toughest* time setting up xchat on my laptop to use the irssi-proxy on my server.09:51
tritiumI'm getting "channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused" when trying to setup the ssh tunnel.09:52
ubotuerUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (indiangal)13:27
Myrttiyet another day, yet amother apartment I'd love13:42
jussi01Myrtti: oh.. so you missed out on the last one?13:44
kbrookscan you please add a factoid to ubuntu that warns on dangerous commands?15:15
naliothkbrooks: do it.  say "uboto foo is bar"15:16
jpatrick!rm | kbrooks15:17
ubotukbrooks: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal15:17
jpatrickoh, I thought that one had a warning..15:17
ubotuIn ubotu, kbrooks said: dcommands is <reply>Please do not mention, even as a joke, dangerous commands that remove user's files or the operating system.15:19
=== GnuKemist is now known as OgMaciel
PriceChildGah this is like dialup16:31
PriceChildgah now i'm loading a link hobbsee left me (.com.au) and its like dialup through my mobile :P16:32
Dr_vOn_pSiEAre you gusy responsible for #ubuntu-de, too?16:37
PriceChildDr_vOn_pSiE, What do you need?16:39
Dr_vOn_pSiEWell, fist sorry for my bad english, but thats not the point. I guess I was kicked from the channel #ubuntu-de by fr00d without a reason. I pasted, yes I am guilty, but I did as it is regulated in the TOPIC of that channel, which says, that you are supposed to used paste-service if you are pasting more than 3 lines. Well I pasted 3 and added a 4th one with my own words and got kicked immediadly, without being warned before.16:43
Dr_vOn_pSiEI just want to tell you guys this as I thing that this is not fair16:44
Dr_vOn_pSiEAnd then this guy told me that that the TOPIC aren't rules, just guidelines.16:45
PriceChildso you appeared to be pasting a large text.... and were removed?16:45
PriceChildHow was he to know that there wasn't another 50 lines coming?16:45
Dr_vOn_pSiEno, i pasted like 10 words in total16:46
Dr_vOn_pSiEand he knew16:46
Dr_vOn_pSiEbut alright i see. I just did what the guideline said16:46
Dr_vOn_pSiEnoting more, nothing less16:47
PriceChildHave you tried to talk to him in pm about it?16:47
Dr_vOn_pSiEwell he thinks that he is right16:47
Dr_vOn_pSiEi am not his opinion16:47
Dr_vOn_pSiEbut he helped me in pm though16:47
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, Are you banned?16:48
Dr_vOn_pSiEI don't know16:48
PriceChildWhat do you mean "and he knew"?16:49
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, So, what are you looking to resolve? :)16:50
Dr_vOn_pSiEi just want to tell you guys that if you have a guidline and someone follows it you can't kick him16:50
Dr_vOn_pSiEand with he knew i meant that he was supposed to konw what is going to be my paste, as he asked me the use the command compiz --replace16:51
Dr_vOn_pSiEand tell him the output16:51
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, Okay.16:52
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, You might want to speak with the channel contact for #ubuntu-de as he or she is responsible for that channel.16:52
* PriceChild sighs16:53
Dr_vOn_pSiEi asked you guys in the beginning16:53
Dr_vOn_pSiEso who is the cannel contace for #ubuntu-de16:53
Dr_vOn_pSiEcontact i mean16:54
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, /msg chanserv info #ubuntu-de16:54
PriceChildI really really don't think this is needed...16:54
Dr_vOn_pSiEok thx16:54
Dr_vOn_pSiEwell look16:54
* somerville32 agrees with PriceChild.16:56
PriceChildIt really hasn't seemed like it.16:56
Dr_vOn_pSiEit is that we all just want to have fun with our ubuntu and for me as a newcommer this is very diappointing if i am trying to get some help in the official irc channel16:56
Dr_vOn_pSiEand being handled like this16:56
Dr_vOn_pSiEi am trying my best to switch from win to linux but is not easy16:57
mc44Dr_vOn_pSiE: people are kicked when pasting because it's the easiest way to stop the pasting continuing and the channel being flooded. Sometimes people make mistakes16:58
Dr_vOn_pSiEbut anyway thanks for the conversation16:58
PriceChildplease don't /quit....16:58
PriceChildTo be honest, I'm not totally up to speed with what you're complaining about? You agree you pasted 4 lines (could have been more coming) and were removed?16:58
Dr_vOn_pSiEwell he asked me to use the command compiz --replace and tell him the output16:59
Dr_vOn_pSiEi guess he must know what the output will be16:59
Dr_vOn_pSiEi pasted 3 lines17:00
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, Please use pastebin in the future and you won't have this problem. M'Kay? :)17:00
Dr_vOn_pSiEand wrote one by myself17:00
PriceChildhow should he know? He's not the one watching and copying the terminal output17:00
PriceChildthere could have been a lot more errors17:00
Dr_vOn_pSiEWell, sorry guys I did as the topic says17:01
Dr_vOn_pSiEpasting 3 lines is ok17:01
Dr_vOn_pSiEAnd he referred to the TOPIC after he kicked me17:01
naliothDr_vOn_pSiE: nobody has said that it wasn't ok17:01
kbrooksPriceChild, can i comment?17:02
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, He must have thought you were going to paste more. It was a simple misunderstanding. :)17:02
naliothDr_vOn_pSiE: but if you speak quickly after your 3d pasted line, how do we know if a large paste is coming?17:02
Jack_SparrowMorning, just got up..   are fallen and flyback talking about pirated serials or am I just seeing the end of the conversation17:02
PriceChildJack_Sparrow, vmware17:02
Dr_vOn_pSiEwell he kicked me like 10 seconds after that and in my 4th line was telling him sorry for paste, but this is the fastest way17:03
Dr_vOn_pSiEI could even tell him thanks to what he added when i was pasting17:04
Dr_vOn_pSiEthen he kicked me17:04
kbrooksDr_vOn_pSiE, i suggest you talk to the channel contact17:04
Dr_vOn_pSiEhe must have been to busy kicking me, so he couldn't see that i am writing more17:04
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, I'm sorry you are upset by being kicked but let me reassure you it isn't a big deal. :)17:05
Dr_vOn_pSiEWell, thanks for the comversation.17:06
Dr_vOn_pSiEI know17:06
Dr_vOn_pSiEI don't know how to say this right17:06
Dr_vOn_pSiEbut i guess he thinks that he is someting better than "normal users" are17:07
Dr_vOn_pSiEanyway i konw that it isn't a too big deal17:07
Dr_vOn_pSiEi guess i will talk to him about that and hope to get a appology..17:07
Dr_vOn_pSiECYA guys, and have fun.17:08
somerville32Dr_vOn_pSiE, I hope you feel comfortable to be able to rejoin #ubuntu-de and get your Ubuntu questions answered. :)17:08
ubotuJack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu (slipttees)17:58
jpatrickwell do all you #ubuntu guys get all the fun..17:58
nixternalslipttees had a warning, no reason to quiet or kick I don'tt hink17:58
nixternalhe apologized for the slip up17:58
Myrttierm, yes17:59
Jack_Sparrowthanks.. just thought that was going to turn bad fast18:00
LjLi didn't mean to ban18:00
ikoniaLjL: thanks for explaining18:01
nixternalbah, I am talking to him in PM, he is off to another OS already :(18:01
nixternalwe need to slow down a bit when some one slips with a cuss word18:01
Jack_Sparrowhe didnt apologize until AFTER the ops call18:02
nixternalya he did18:02
somerville32He swore in excitement. I don't quite see how that required an ops call at all.18:02
nixternalsomerville32: +10000000018:03
Jack_SparrowFamily friendly...18:03
nixternal11:58:12 [ slipttees] ikonia, ops sorry :(18:03
LjLok no need to make a huge fuss of this18:03
nixternal29 seconds after he slipped up18:03
* somerville32 levels up.18:03
nixternalnot making a huge fuss, we just don't need to be so jumpy18:03
LjLJack_Sparrow, just if something looks like *going* to turn out bad, but hasn't yet, ping here rather than !opsing18:03
* Mez did a remove and was planning on contacting... hence hwy I remoevd the ban.. Isaw the ops call, saw the swearing ... did a remove18:04
somerville32What happened to giving warnings for small offences like that? :S18:04
Jack_SparrowLjL: I was already offended when I called...   but will be a bit more tolerant18:04
nixternalhow could anyone be offended by fuckinhell? I know everyone here doesn't have virgin ears, plus you can see he was excited that someone helped him :)18:06
jpatricknixternal: +118:07
Jack_Sparrowwhat the fuckinghell is your problem...18:08
nixternaldoes anyone happen to read the planet btw? it is far more public than our IRC channels, and you see all kinds of cuss words...so I have a problem with taking action other than a warning when it comes to cussing..makes us look all hypocrtical and shit..ya I swore, big deal :p18:08
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (darkone_)18:32
naliothwow, cloning, too18:33
ikoniathe darkeone guy has been a pain18:34
naliothwhen a kline hits, i see all the users who were on that IP18:34
nalioththat IP had clones18:34
LjLah, right, i /whois'd, i didn't /who18:35
LjLwell i /who'd but only after you'd already klined18:35
crdlbdo you see a problem with the nick 'cumknot' ? (maybe it's just me :) )18:35
naliothcrdlb: is that person trolling?18:36
LjLas long as it isn't pigcum again, i'm willing to let it pass18:36
ubotuIn ubotu, Jord said: tcprelay is a port forwarder18:49
LjL!info tcprelay > jord18:49
LjLuhm, except it's not a package i guess18:49
* somerville32 nods.18:50
ubotuIn ubotu, Jord said: tcpxd is TCP/IP relay or proxy, allowing a connection to a port on a system to be forwarded to another port on any other system. It is useful for firewalls and service relocations, and is small, simple, and fast. http://quozl.us.netrek.org/tcpxd/18:51
LjLthat's better18:51
LjLJord, that's nice, but isn't there something in the repositories to achieve the same?18:52
LjLwhen something is available from the repositories, we'd much rather have a factoid on that, than on something that isn't18:52
Jordi wish i could find something18:52
Jordi need a program that does the same as tcpxd except i need to be able to bind it to a port18:52
Jordto an interface*18:52
Jordaccording to the changelog, tcpxd can do it18:53
LjLJord, iptables does it fine... you just need to know how to use it18:53
Jordbut i cant find documentation about that18:53
LjLJord, this is not a support channel, but please ask in #ubuntu what exactly you need to do, i'll try to see if i can help you18:53
Jordyeah, it probably can, but i was hoping for something simpler18:53
Jordyeah, soz, its ok18:54
LjLJord, it's really quite simply, it's most probably one command line18:54
Jordbye :)18:54
LjLJord, i'm not kidding though, do ask. i'm not an iptables guru, but i do have some port forwarding running on my server18:54
LjLJord, see my message in #ubuntu, and also19:08
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).19:08
ubotuMinataku called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic ()19:41
tritiumAre any of you running irssi-proxy successfully?20:24
LjLwell, "successfully"20:24
mc44tritium: yup20:25
tritiummc44: mind if I pick your brain a bit?20:25
mc44they're not doing anything else :)20:25
LjLif you have an electronic microscope20:25
mc44^ funny20:25
LjLi don't even deserve a unicode arrow?20:26
mc44LjL: if only I could do those without copying and pasting20:26
LjLmc44: uhm, you can20:26
tritiummc44: do you setup an ssh tunnel to the machine running the proxy?20:26
mc44tritium: whats the problem?20:26
mc44tritium: yep20:26
tritiummc44: Well, can't connect a client.  I'm not even sure the proxy is running properly.20:27
LjLan ssh tunnel... to an untrusted machine? how sound.20:27
tritiumWhat's untrusted about it?20:27
mc44LjL: ... er..20:27
LjLtritium: well, mc44's is untrusted20:27
tritiummc44: when I try to connect my client, this is what I get:20:28
tritium channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused20:28
mc44tritium: how are you trying to connecT?20:28
tritiumThat error is in the console where I started the tunnel, not in the irc client20:28
mc44wait, you're not trying to ssh straight to the proxy are you? :)20:28
tritiummc44: no20:29
tritiummc44: I do two things:20:29
tritiumssh -NfL 6667:localhost:6667 htpc20:29
tritium(proxy is running on htpc on port 6667)20:29
tritiumThen, in irc client: /server localhost 6667 <password>20:29
tritiumIn the irc client, connection is established and then immediately lost20:30
tritiummc44: can you telnet to the port your proxy is running on?  (I cannot)20:30
LjLuhm, both ports 6667? for some reason that doesn't sound right to me20:31
tritiumLjL: I've tried many different port combinations20:31
tritiumDoesn't work in any case.20:31
mc44tritium: yep telnet works directly20:32
mc44well it says, Connect to blah20:32
tritiummc44: hrm, so I think the proxy isn't running right.20:32
LjLuhm ok. i still don't quite understand why you need SSH anyway... after all the connection is all in plaintext from the proxy to the IRC server20:32
somerville32Just FYI:20:32
somerville32[16:17] <PhobiaBB> thanks you fucking faggots20:32
somerville32[16:18] * PhobiaBB has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox]")20:32
PriceChildAnd then he left20:32
tritiummc44: thanks for checking that out.  I wonder why my proxy isn't running properly.20:33
LjLban, so it'll show in the bantracker20:33
tritiumDo I need to edit /etc/inetd.conf, or something?20:33
mc44tritium: the module is loaded? :)20:33
tritiummc44: yes, with port and password set20:33
mc44tritium: you have the port set like: freenode=666720:34
tritiumLjL: yeah, I'd connect directly too, if I could.20:34
tritiummc44: yes20:34
mc44tritium: then I'm out of obvious suggestions :)20:34
somerville32LjL, ban his nick?20:34
LjLsomerville32: nick will do20:34
tritiummc44: what does your /set proxy show you?  (Don't give me your password, of course)20:35
LjLno, *do* give me your password20:35
somerville32PriceChild, How did you get his IP?20:36
LjLsomerville32: /whowas phobiabb20:36
PriceChildchanserv.py does a whowas...20:36
PriceChildand it also shows up in the quit message20:36
somerville32oh cool20:37
LjLuhm why can't you use irssi-proxy without SSH? from the descriptions i see on the web, it simply provides an IRC server on a port. shouldn't need SSH20:37
mc44LjL: if you don't want an open port on your server, for example20:40
LjLmc44: uh... it's open anyway if you SSH to it, isn't it?20:40
mc44I'd trust SSH over irssi in terms of security20:40
jdongLjL: well with ssh you'd bind irssi-proxy to localhost20:42
tritiumWhat a pain...20:42
jdongLjL: which is different than binding it to a public interface, then transmitting the password to it in cleartext...20:42
LjLjdong: use the same password as the nickserv one... it's already in plaintext :)20:43
jdongLjL: point :)20:44
jdongLjL: not like IRC is a secure medium at any rate :)20:44
Mezjdong? really?20:45
* Mez shouts into collar "ABORT!! ABORT!!"20:45
LjLjdong: which i why i don't very much seeing the point of using SSH for a proxy to begin with20:45
tritiumyay, got it working20:46
tritiumThanks, mc4420:46
jdongLjL: right, I get your point, but I trust the network that my main session is on a lot more than $random_wifi_hotspot20:46
mc44tritium: no problem20:47
LjLjdong: well... yeah, i suppose20:48
jdongLjL: I'm also not confident enough about the security of irssi-proxy to allow it to offer a publically accessible port... I'd rather have a layer of ssh around it to even talk to the daemon20:48
LjLjdong: well, if it were me, i'd be running it chrooted anyway20:50
jdongLjL: apparmored :)20:50
LjLi'm still in search of a hassle-free packaged irc proxy without weird quirks myself20:50
LjLjdong: doubt it20:50
jdong15:50 -!- Irssi: process 0 (ls) terminated with signal 9 (Killed)20:50
mc44LjL: whats quirky about irssiproxy?20:51
LjLmc44: it *is* a quirk. irssi does lots of things i don't tell it to, it even auto-ignores CTCPs when it gets too many, i'm told20:52
LjLand i want a proxy, not a full featured irc client. or operating system, for that matter20:52
mc44thats a bad thing?20:52
LjLirssi - the emacs of irc20:52
LjLmc44: yes.20:52
LjLmc44: if i want flood protection, i get flood protection. if i want an irc proxy, i get an irc proxy20:53
mc44you're so demanding20:54
LjLi wouldn't like to find that i have automatic auto-rejoin-on-kick enabled, for instance, without ever telling anything to enable it20:54
tritiumStrange.  My connected client only sees 8 of the channels I'm in.20:54
tritiummc44: is there some limit I need to increase?20:54
LjLmc44: look, a quirk!20:54
mc44tritium: not that I've come across, but I'm not in 8 channels :)20:54
mc44LjL: I like quirky20:55
LjLmc44: but i wasn't talking about you, i was talking about me20:55
LjLas a rule, it's generally all about me20:55
mc44see, theres your problem :P20:55
tritiummc44: sheesh, only 2 channels?20:55
mc44tritium: only two which you're in ;)20:55
ubotuThere are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml20:55
LjLthat factoid by the way is...20:56
tritiummc44: ah ;)20:56
LjL!no modes is <reply> There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml20:56
ubotuI'll remember that LjL20:56
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Mezany staff awake?21:02
naliothMez: you can't be arsed to look at 2 minutes of scrollback?21:04
Meznalioth, 2 mins of scrollback? I talked at least 5 mins after the last channel msg ;)21:05
Mezsee /msg anyways21:05
naliothwhat /msg ?21:05
naliothand in #freenode i just spoke right before you asked21:06
Meznalioth, yeah yeah... I didnt notice in tehre and my /msg went astray21:06
PriceChildGouki (/GoukiPT) is incoming21:24
PriceChildRemember UbuntuStats? He's reviving it again and should be back for good.21:24
LjLPriceChild, gouki is in this channel already21:24
PriceChildwow so he is21:24
somerville32I love UbuntuStats :)21:25
PriceChildbut anyway... so yes... checking channel list, and i suggested possibility of an ubuntu cloak perhaps21:27
PriceChild<[chr0n0s]> rings a bell in #ubuntu21:43
PriceChildWhat specs of hardware is ubotu currently on?21:43
LjLOperationalError rings a bell in bantracker21:44
LjLPriceChild, i suspect there is one person who knows21:46
PriceChildccvp also rings a bell22:30
LjLyes PriceChild, old aquaintance, as you've probably guessed from the way i banned22:30
LjLi probably removed the knology ban unadvertedly yesterday when i cleaned some bans up22:31
goukiHi everyone!22:47
goukiAs PriceChild mentioned before, UbuntuStats is coming back for good. I bought a cheap plan at VPSLink.com, which gives me root access and a good connection, so I should not have the problems that made me quit the first time.22:48
goukiI have the list of channels I plan on gathering logs, can someone take a look at it?22:49
PriceChildpastebin please ;)22:50
PriceChildI'm wondering if we should ask -women about it?22:56
LjLgouki: please, remove #ubuntu-ops from there. also, i suppose you really should ask the contacts of the various channels, as well22:56
PriceChildThey are very against logging etc.22:56
goukiYeah, right. -women doesn't want it.22:57
goukiAs for the other ones, I remember having them on the old times22:58
goukiI'll update the list and remove -ops and -women22:58
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goukiPizza is here. Please, give me suggestions.22:59
LjLgouki, you've covered the main channels i think. dunno what else - perhaps some other loco channels wouldn't mind.23:00
jpatrickgouki: you can get #kubuntu-es23:01
jpatrickgouki: and I'll speak to the #ubuntu-es guys about it later for you23:02

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