| Jack_Sparrow | [17:09] <sleepcat> NetLarIrvine: if you're having trouble with ubuntu, you may try Solaris 10. It is a bit easier to get going | 01:13 |
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| somerville32 | What is the factoid about compiling your own drivers? | 01:18 |
| LjL | hm | 01:22 |
| LjL | can't find any | 01:23 |
| LjL | there is of course !kernel | 01:23 |
| LjL | but no generic factoid about module assistant | 01:23 |
| LjL | there's this | 01:23 |
| LjL | !alsa-source | 01:23 |
| ubotu | Want to use alsa 0.11? Grab and install http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.11-2_all.deb, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant and build-essential and run sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source | 01:23 |
| stdin | hmm, isn't that a bit old now? | 01:25 |
| LjL | no idea | 01:25 |
| LjL | it's the only factoid mentioning module-assistant | 01:25 |
| stdin | well gutsy has 1.0.14-1ubuntu2 so it seems a bit out of date | 01:26 |
| ardchoille | Gutsy here: alsa-base-1.0.14-1ubuntu2 | 01:26 |
| ardchoille | stdin types faster than I do :/ | 01:27 |
| LjL | well who cares about that factoid anyway | 01:27 |
| LjL | but perhaps we should have one about using module-assistant | 01:27 |
| LjL | can't find much on the wiki either | 01:28 |
| stdin | me either | 01:29 |
| stdin | all I can find is a spec for module-assistant | 01:31 |
| LjL | the one to run it automatically after kernel updates? | 01:31 |
| stdin | yeah | 01:32 |
| LjL | !modules | 01:36 |
| ubotu | To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u » | 01:36 |
| LjL | !-modules | 01:37 |
| ubotu | modules is <alias> blacklist - added by LjL on 2007-01-26 02:51:55 | 01:37 |
| LjL | !no modules is <reply> To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard !kernel, install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see !blacklist | 01:37 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that LjL | 01:37 |
| somerville32 | troll in #ubuntu-offtopic | 01:38 |
| somerville32 | LjL, Maybe he should be klined? He is just trolling channels at random it seems | 01:39 |
| LjL | #perv... | 01:41 |
| LjL | how many channels i didn't know the existence of, and am glad i don't, i wonder | 01:41 |
| somerville32 | yea, pretty freaky | 01:41 |
| elkbuntu | how on earth did you find that one | 01:41 |
| LjL | i didn't, this sam troll just mentioned it on #teensonlinux | 01:42 |
| LjL | ouch i just couldn't resist | 01:43 |
| * somerville32 doesn't want to know what LjL just gave into :P | 01:44 | |
| LjL | somerville32: that little comment on #teens | 01:44 |
| somerville32 | haha | 01:45 |
| * somerville32 nods. | 01:45 | |
| ubotu | MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu (motherlode) | 01:46 |
| ubotu | nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu () | 01:47 |
| LjL | done | 01:47 |
| nalioth | LjL: klined | 01:48 |
| LjL | yeah, saw him in #gentoo :| | 01:48 |
| LjL | ardchoille: client coming for you | 02:50 |
| ardchoille | LjL: ? | 02:51 |
| LjL | ardchoille, unless i'm mistaken and "ardachcile" is someone else, but i doubt it | 02:51 |
| LjL | perhaps he won't come | 02:52 |
| LjL | anyway FYI | 02:52 |
| ardchoille | LjL: I'm confused | 02:52 |
| LjL | #ubuntu: | 02:52 |
| LjL | [03:50:06] <nonoo> unban me from #kubuntu someone | 02:52 |
| LjL | [03:50:10] <nonoo> ardachcile is a faggit | 02:52 |
| ardchoille | in #kubuntu? or PM? | 02:52 |
| LjL | [03:50:36] <LjL> nonoo: #ubuntu-ops | 02:52 |
| ardchoille | The only ban I have set was atwo | 02:53 |
| ardchoille | You remember him? | 02:53 |
| elkbuntu | ardchoille, it's completly concivable they've changed nick a few times to try get back in | 02:53 |
| LjL | something we'll find out as soon as the bantracker loads | 02:53 |
| LjL | which is probably tomorrow | 02:53 |
| ardchoille | according to /whois, that's him | 02:54 |
| ardchoille | elkbuntu: Yeah | 02:54 |
| LjL | it is indeed | 02:54 |
| LjL | i don't think he should join #ubuntu again, either, seeing his eagerness to call people names | 02:55 |
| ardchoille | He was causing trouble, cursing, general bad attitude, disrespect to other, disregarding channel rules.. he had many warning from several ops. I finally got tired of it and banned him. | 02:55 |
| LjL | now he's atwo1 | 02:55 |
| LjL | don't think he has a clue how to get a different address, though, so let him change nicknames as he likes | 02:56 |
| elkbuntu | that 'realname' he has set is ringing bells | 02:56 |
| LjL | it is? | 02:56 |
| ardchoille | he started out as atwo1, got banned from a channel, changed nicks to atwo and now he is nonoo | 02:57 |
| ardchoille | Sounds of ban evasion to me. | 02:57 |
| elkbuntu | yeah, but i have no clue who it's a reminder of | 02:57 |
| LjL | no, he's atwo1 again now | 02:57 |
| LjL | anyway, he's certainly attempted ban evasion, but will hardly manage it | 02:57 |
| elkbuntu | but i know he's not the first troll to use that realname | 02:57 |
| LjL | elkbuntu, i'm grepping logs, but i can't remember | 02:58 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, so it's familiar to you too? | 02:58 |
| LjL | no, not really, but perhaps there's something in the logs | 02:59 |
| ardchoille | Where is the ban tracker? | 02:59 |
| ardchoille | Do I have access to it? | 02:59 |
| LjL | ardchoille, nope, you currently don't have access to it, we'll need seveas | 02:59 |
| ardchoille | I should ask him to give me access | 03:00 |
| LjL | the only Pandemonium i have is on march 25, nickname (not realname), not kicked or banned | 03:00 |
| elkbuntu | his presence is somewhat required, so you could be waiting a while | 03:00 |
| ardchoille | No problem, I can wait :) | 03:01 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, i cant find it in my logs either, but im starting to think the server tab doesnt get logged in xchat | 03:04 |
| stdin | it does, probably ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-.log | 03:05 |
| stdin | more like ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-ubuntu\ servers.log actually | 03:08 |
| elkbuntu | aaah... there it hides | 03:08 |
| stdin | odd naming scheme though | 03:10 |
| elkbuntu | aaaaaaaha! | 03:11 |
| ardchoille | elkbuntu: > | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | all i needed to do was grep all my ubuntu logs: | 03:12 |
| ardchoille | ? | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jul 11 01:07:00 * pandemonium (n=pandemon@p3EE020E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #ubuntu | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jul 11 01:07:10 <pandemonium> hez | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jul 11 01:07:12 <pandemonium> hez | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jul 11 01:07:20 <pandemonium> hey....whats up here | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | Jul 11 01:08:08 * pandemonium has quit (Client Quit) | 03:12 |
| ardchoille | What did you find? | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | i remember that now | 03:12 |
| elkbuntu | this is proof of how obscure my brain works | 03:13 |
| elkbuntu | LjL, i was thinking of what you found | 03:15 |
| elkbuntu | actually no, it's a different one | 03:15 |
| elkbuntu | the pandemonium person above also had connection issues on aug 6 | 03:16 |
| ardchoille | How fasat are the logs updated? | 03:17 |
| elkbuntu | ardchoille, the logs? you mean the ones i log locally? realtime | 03:17 |
| elkbuntu | ubuntulog, every 20 mins or so | 03:17 |
| ardchoille | No, the http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ logs | 03:17 |
| elkbuntu | see latter | 03:17 |
| elkbuntu | well that's what fabbione used to run them at, i dont know what the sysadmins run them at now | 03:18 |
| elkbuntu | also, if you ever notice them missing, let one of us know so we can poke the sysadmins | 03:19 |
| ardchoille | Well, I found the place in the logs where I banned him, but it doesn't show in the logs | 03:24 |
| stdin | ardchoille: well, if you want a log http://stdin.pastebin.com/d66fa01cc is from the bantracker | 03:28 |
| ardchoille | stdin: Ah, thakn you much | 03:28 |
| ardchoille | Last three lines of that log | 03:29 |
| stdin | yep, the bantracker logs 200 lines from the event (the /kick in this case) | 03:30 |
| ardchoille | Wow, nice tracker :) | 03:30 |
| stdin | it comes in handy from time to time :) | 03:31 |
| nalioth | stdin: i have a question | 03:31 |
| stdin | nalioth: yes? | 03:31 |
| nalioth | why isn't there a dedicated KDE web browser? | 03:32 |
| stdin | you mean konqueror? | 03:32 |
| nalioth | it's not dedicated | 03:32 |
| stdin | it is more so in kde4 | 03:32 |
| nalioth | it doesn't have web history, or web-centric stuff | 03:32 |
| nalioth | know of any QT/kde based web browser (besides konq)? | 03:34 |
| stdin | konqueror generally a jack of all trades, the only other Qt bases browser I know off the top of my head is opera | 03:35 |
| nalioth | opera is closed source | 03:35 |
| nalioth | and it's not kde-centric | 03:35 |
| stdin | the kde4 konqueror is more web-centric | 03:35 |
| stdin | and it does have a history | 03:36 |
| nalioth | so i have to wait? | 03:36 |
| stdin | that's part of the reason to make dolphin the file manager and konqueror a (real) web browser in kde4 | 03:37 |
| stdin | konqueror didn't really have a purpose as such | 03:37 |
| nalioth | i prefer konqueror as file mangler | 03:37 |
| nalioth | unless dolphin has made great leaps | 03:37 |
| stdin | if you're comparing it to the kde3 version then don't :p they are extremely different | 03:38 |
| stdin | dolphin is actually useful in kde4 :) | 03:38 |
| stdin | and not as clunky | 03:39 |
| ardchoille | That's very good to hear | 03:39 |
| ardchoille | Because I was severely disappointed with dolphin in gutsy | 03:39 |
| * nalioth has kde4 on his test machine, but is currently unable to change over to it . . . . | 03:40 | |
| stdin | you can start dolphin from your kde3 session too, just run "dolphin-kde4" it will work from the kmenu as soon as it gets backported | 03:41 |
| stdin | (or I may just upload it to the -kde4 ppa myself) | 03:41 |
| nalioth | so it runs now, but won't run from the kmenu until it gets backported? | 03:41 |
| stdin | well the .desktop files were a bit broken because the Exec= line was wrong | 03:42 |
| nalioth | could not open dolphin-kde4 | 03:42 |
| stdin | you have it installed? | 03:43 |
| nalioth | stdin: you packaged it | 03:43 |
| stdin | yeah, but I don't know if you installed it | 03:43 |
| nalioth | i installed everything that had "kde4" in it | 03:44 |
| stdin | wow :p | 03:44 |
| stdin | what version of dolphin-kde4 do you have? (should be4:3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1) | 03:44 |
| nalioth | your update mechanism isn't working right, i don't think | 03:45 |
| stdin | why? | 03:46 |
| nalioth | i've got 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1 | 03:47 |
| stdin | ahh, you haven't got the new PPA ;) | 03:47 |
| stdin | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/ gutsy main | 03:47 |
| nalioth | the PPA doesn't update it's release.gz? | 03:47 |
| stdin | we moved it to another ppa so more than one person could upload (other than me) | 03:48 |
| nalioth | nice of you to tell us :| | 03:48 |
| stdin | it's on the announcement page... | 03:49 |
| stdin | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php | 03:49 |
| nalioth | i don't surf the web much | 03:50 |
| stdin | it's in the #kubuntu topic too, and on !kde4 :) | 03:50 |
| nalioth | i don't talk to bots, either :( | 03:50 |
| tonyyarusso | I'd sure hope you read topics though | 03:51 |
| nalioth | nope | 03:51 |
| stdin | the only reason we used my PPA in the first place was because it was already built there and would take ages to backport or build in the kubuntu-members ppa | 03:51 |
| nalioth | stdin: would you like access to a powerpc box? | 03:52 |
| stdin | to do what? | 03:52 |
| nalioth | to do what, indeed. | 03:52 |
| stdin | I've never used anything powerpc, never had a mac | 03:53 |
| nalioth | but lots of ubuntu users _DO_ have powerpc hardware, and might like to try out kde4 | 03:53 |
| stdin | right now the only way to build powerpc packages is with the ubuntu build system, PPA run on xen so can only build i386/amd64/lpia | 03:55 |
| nalioth | are you kidding me? | 03:55 |
| nalioth | i used to build powerpc packages | 03:55 |
| stdin | well, that's what the launchpad admins tell me | 03:56 |
| nalioth | you can build packages anywhere | 03:56 |
| stdin | can you install the powerpc debs from apt in a chroot on a i386 box? | 03:57 |
| nalioth | stdin: a chroot only works for simliar arch packages | 03:58 |
| stdin | that's what all the packages are built in though, chroots with only build-essential installed | 03:58 |
| nalioth | stdin: get the PM? | 03:59 |
| stdin | yeah just noticed it, I had sound muted | 03:59 |
| ubotu | yama called the ops in #ubuntu-au () | 04:09 |
| ubotu | praetorian called the ops in #ubuntu-au () | 04:09 |
| ubotu | yama called the ops in #ubuntu-au () | 04:46 |
| elkbuntu | it's just testing, somerville32 you dont need to be there | 04:46 |
| ubotu | yama called the ops in #ubuntu-au () | 04:48 |
| elkbuntu | ignore again | 04:48 |
| Tm_T | hm | 05:06 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, Jordan_U said: windows is For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents | 05:59 |
| ubotu | nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu () | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | Jordan_U: ? | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | !windows | 06:20 |
| ubotu | For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents | 06:20 |
| Jordan_U | Tm_T, I don't think the immature windows bashing is needed | 06:21 |
| Tm_T | Jordan_U: agreed there, it's joke, but not nice one | 06:21 |
| Tm_T | !nixternal | 06:21 |
| ubotu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 06:21 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: what'dya say? | 06:22 |
| nixternal | huh? | 06:22 |
| Jordan_U | nixternal, I'll take some free money | 06:22 |
| nixternal | so will I | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: about !windows factoid, should do we remove the health institute bit? | 06:22 |
| Jordan_U | nixternal, Nice, I hear nixternal is giving some away | 06:22 |
| Jordan_U | ;) | 06:23 |
| Tm_T | ubotu: no windows is <reply> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents | 06:24 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubotu: no windows is <reply> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | hmmmmh | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | ubotu: no windows is <reply> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents | 06:24 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that Tm_T | 06:24 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | Jordan_U: happy with? | 06:24 |
| Jordan_U | Tm_T, Yes, thank you | 06:25 |
| nixternal | as long as the !windows doesn't have something controversial or disrespectful, then it is fine | 06:25 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: isn't "or your nearest mental health institute" disrespectful then? ;) | 06:25 |
| nixternal | yup | 06:26 |
| nixternal | plus, the person who created it, probably has a windows machine on his/her desk | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | that's offensive towards the mental health institutes. i'm sure they want regular visitors too, to help out. | 06:27 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:27 |
| ardchoille | hahaha | 06:27 |
| elkbuntu | many of us think the wording of bug #1 itself to be disrespectful in itself, since it should be 'proprietary software' rather than 'microsoft' | 06:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 06:27 |
| nixternal | bug #1 is flat out stupid anyways...after they tested that LP worked with it, they should have removed it or changed it | 06:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 06:29 |
| nixternal | shut up ubotu | 06:29 |
| elkbuntu | nixternal, having it there as like a mission statement/goal is fine, but being so shallow as to target one single company is ridiculou | 06:29 |
| nixternal | very true | 06:30 |
| elkbuntu | not to mention in itself non-CoC compliant ;) | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | yu | 06:57 |
| Tm_T | okie, see you next year or so -> | 07:00 |
| Myrtti | am I not getting it, but do peeople really need medibuntu still? | 07:23 |
| ardchoille | Myrtti: I need libdvdcss2. I realise I can get that in other ways, but I feel Medibuntu is important. | 07:32 |
| ardchoille | I mean, who knows what new and exciting things it may hold in the future. | 07:32 |
| * Hobbsee has only found that she needs libdvdcss2 from it. | 07:33 | |
| ardchoille | I used the Seveas repo in Edgy and I think it's good to have a repo for things that can't be put into the official repos. | 07:34 |
| ardchoille | Just my opinion, tho | 07:34 |
| tritium | I'm having the *toughest* time setting up xchat on my laptop to use the irssi-proxy on my server. | 09:51 |
| tritium | I'm getting "channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused" when trying to setup the ssh tunnel. | 09:52 |
| ubotu | erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (indiangal) | 13:27 |
| Myrtti | yet another day, yet amother apartment I'd love | 13:42 |
| jussi01 | Myrtti: oh.. so you missed out on the last one? | 13:44 |
| kbrooks | can you please add a factoid to ubuntu that warns on dangerous commands? | 15:15 |
| nalioth | kbrooks: do it. say "uboto foo is bar" | 15:16 |
| jpatrick | !rm | kbrooks | 15:17 |
| ubotu | kbrooks: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 15:17 |
| jpatrick | oh, I thought that one had a warning.. | 15:17 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, kbrooks said: dcommands is <reply>Please do not mention, even as a joke, dangerous commands that remove user's files or the operating system. | 15:19 |
| === GnuKemist is now known as OgMaciel | ||
| PriceChild | Gah this is like dialup | 16:31 |
| PriceChild | gah now i'm loading a link hobbsee left me (.com.au) and its like dialup through my mobile :P | 16:32 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | Hello | 16:37 |
| jrib | hi | 16:37 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | Are you gusy responsible for #ubuntu-de, too? | 16:37 |
| Myrtti | hullo | 16:37 |
| PriceChild | Dr_vOn_pSiE, What do you need? | 16:39 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | Well, fist sorry for my bad english, but thats not the point. I guess I was kicked from the channel #ubuntu-de by fr00d without a reason. I pasted, yes I am guilty, but I did as it is regulated in the TOPIC of that channel, which says, that you are supposed to used paste-service if you are pasting more than 3 lines. Well I pasted 3 and added a 4th one with my own words and got kicked immediadly, without being warned before. | 16:43 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | I just want to tell you guys this as I thing that this is not fair | 16:44 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | And then this guy told me that that the TOPIC aren't rules, just guidelines. | 16:45 |
| PriceChild | so you appeared to be pasting a large text.... and were removed? | 16:45 |
| PriceChild | How was he to know that there wasn't another 50 lines coming? | 16:45 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | no, i pasted like 10 words in total | 16:46 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | and he knew | 16:46 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | but alright i see. I just did what the guideline said | 16:46 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | noting more, nothing less | 16:47 |
| PriceChild | Have you tried to talk to him in pm about it? | 16:47 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | well he thinks that he is right | 16:47 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i am not his opinion | 16:47 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | but he helped me in pm though | 16:47 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, Are you banned? | 16:48 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | I don't know | 16:48 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | no | 16:49 |
| PriceChild | What do you mean "and he knew"? | 16:49 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, So, what are you looking to resolve? :) | 16:50 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i just want to tell you guys that if you have a guidline and someone follows it you can't kick him | 16:50 |
| Myrtti | yes? | 16:51 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | and with he knew i meant that he was supposed to konw what is going to be my paste, as he asked me the use the command compiz --replace | 16:51 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | and tell him the output | 16:51 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, Okay. | 16:52 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | well | 16:52 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, You might want to speak with the channel contact for #ubuntu-de as he or she is responsible for that channel. | 16:52 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | lol | 16:53 |
| * PriceChild sighs | 16:53 | |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i asked you guys in the beginning | 16:53 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | so who is the cannel contace for #ubuntu-de | 16:53 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | contact i mean | 16:54 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, /msg chanserv info #ubuntu-de | 16:54 |
| PriceChild | I really really don't think this is needed... | 16:54 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | ok thx | 16:54 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | well look | 16:54 |
| * somerville32 agrees with PriceChild. | 16:56 | |
| PriceChild | It really hasn't seemed like it. | 16:56 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | it is that we all just want to have fun with our ubuntu and for me as a newcommer this is very diappointing if i am trying to get some help in the official irc channel | 16:56 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | and being handled like this | 16:56 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i am trying my best to switch from win to linux but is not easy | 16:57 |
| mc44 | Dr_vOn_pSiE: people are kicked when pasting because it's the easiest way to stop the pasting continuing and the channel being flooded. Sometimes people make mistakes | 16:58 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | but anyway thanks for the conversation | 16:58 |
| PriceChild | please don't /quit.... | 16:58 |
| PriceChild | To be honest, I'm not totally up to speed with what you're complaining about? You agree you pasted 4 lines (could have been more coming) and were removed? | 16:58 |
| PriceChild | "pasted" | 16:58 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | well he asked me to use the command compiz --replace and tell him the output | 16:59 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i guess he must know what the output will be | 16:59 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i pasted 3 lines | 17:00 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, Please use pastebin in the future and you won't have this problem. M'Kay? :) | 17:00 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | and wrote one by myself | 17:00 |
| PriceChild | how should he know? He's not the one watching and copying the terminal output | 17:00 |
| PriceChild | there could have been a lot more errors | 17:00 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | Well, sorry guys I did as the topic says | 17:01 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | pasting 3 lines is ok | 17:01 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | And he referred to the TOPIC after he kicked me | 17:01 |
| nalioth | Dr_vOn_pSiE: nobody has said that it wasn't ok | 17:01 |
| kbrooks | PriceChild, can i comment? | 17:02 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, He must have thought you were going to paste more. It was a simple misunderstanding. :) | 17:02 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | yes | 17:02 |
| nalioth | Dr_vOn_pSiE: but if you speak quickly after your 3d pasted line, how do we know if a large paste is coming? | 17:02 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Morning, just got up.. are fallen and flyback talking about pirated serials or am I just seeing the end of the conversation | 17:02 |
| PriceChild | Jack_Sparrow, vmware | 17:02 |
| Jack_Sparrow | k | 17:03 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | well he kicked me like 10 seconds after that and in my 4th line was telling him sorry for paste, but this is the fastest way | 17:03 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | I could even tell him thanks to what he added when i was pasting | 17:04 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | then he kicked me | 17:04 |
| kbrooks | Dr_vOn_pSiE, i suggest you talk to the channel contact | 17:04 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | he must have been to busy kicking me, so he couldn't see that i am writing more | 17:04 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, I'm sorry you are upset by being kicked but let me reassure you it isn't a big deal. :) | 17:05 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | Well, thanks for the comversation. | 17:06 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | I know | 17:06 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | I don't know how to say this right | 17:06 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | but i guess he thinks that he is someting better than "normal users" are | 17:07 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | anyway i konw that it isn't a too big deal | 17:07 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | i guess i will talk to him about that and hope to get a appology.. | 17:07 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | CYA guys, and have fun. | 17:08 |
| somerville32 | Dr_vOn_pSiE, I hope you feel comfortable to be able to rejoin #ubuntu-de and get your Ubuntu questions answered. :) | 17:08 |
| Dr_vOn_pSiE | yep | 17:09 |
| ubotu | Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu (slipttees) | 17:58 |
| jpatrick | well do all you #ubuntu guys get all the fun.. | 17:58 |
| nixternal | slipttees had a warning, no reason to quiet or kick I don'tt hink | 17:58 |
| nixternal | he apologized for the slip up | 17:58 |
| Myrtti | erm, yes | 17:59 |
| Jack_Sparrow | thanks.. just thought that was going to turn bad fast | 18:00 |
| LjL | i didn't mean to ban | 18:00 |
| ikonia | LjL: thanks for explaining | 18:01 |
| nixternal | bah, I am talking to him in PM, he is off to another OS already :( | 18:01 |
| nixternal | we need to slow down a bit when some one slips with a cuss word | 18:01 |
| Jack_Sparrow | he didnt apologize until AFTER the ops call | 18:02 |
| nixternal | ya he did | 18:02 |
| somerville32 | He swore in excitement. I don't quite see how that required an ops call at all. | 18:02 |
| nixternal | somerville32: +100000000 | 18:03 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Family friendly... | 18:03 |
| nixternal | 11:58:12 [ slipttees] ikonia, ops sorry :( | 18:03 |
| LjL | ok no need to make a huge fuss of this | 18:03 |
| nixternal | 29 seconds after he slipped up | 18:03 |
| * somerville32 levels up. | 18:03 | |
| nixternal | not making a huge fuss, we just don't need to be so jumpy | 18:03 |
| LjL | Jack_Sparrow, just if something looks like *going* to turn out bad, but hasn't yet, ping here rather than !opsing | 18:03 |
| Tm_T | hm | 18:04 |
| * Mez did a remove and was planning on contacting... hence hwy I remoevd the ban.. Isaw the ops call, saw the swearing ... did a remove | 18:04 | |
| somerville32 | What happened to giving warnings for small offences like that? :S | 18:04 |
| Jack_Sparrow | LjL: I was already offended when I called... but will be a bit more tolerant | 18:04 |
| nixternal | how could anyone be offended by fuckinhell? I know everyone here doesn't have virgin ears, plus you can see he was excited that someone helped him :) | 18:06 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: +1 | 18:07 |
| Jack_Sparrow | what the fuckinghell is your problem... | 18:08 |
| nixternal | does anyone happen to read the planet btw? it is far more public than our IRC channels, and you see all kinds of cuss words...so I have a problem with taking action other than a warning when it comes to cussing..makes us look all hypocrtical and shit..ya I swore, big deal :p | 18:08 |
| Jack_Sparrow | sorry | 18:08 |
| ubotu | astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (darkone_) | 18:32 |
| nalioth | klined | 18:33 |
| nalioth | wow, cloning, too | 18:33 |
| LjL | cloning? | 18:34 |
| ikonia | the darkeone guy has been a pain | 18:34 |
| nalioth | when a kline hits, i see all the users who were on that IP | 18:34 |
| nalioth | that IP had clones | 18:34 |
| LjL | ah, right, i /whois'd, i didn't /who | 18:35 |
| LjL | well i /who'd but only after you'd already klined | 18:35 |
| crdlb | do you see a problem with the nick 'cumknot' ? (maybe it's just me :) ) | 18:35 |
| nalioth | crdlb: is that person trolling? | 18:36 |
| LjL | as long as it isn't pigcum again, i'm willing to let it pass | 18:36 |
| crdlb | no | 18:36 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, Jord said: tcprelay is a port forwarder | 18:49 |
| LjL | !info tcprelay > jord | 18:49 |
| LjL | uhm, except it's not a package i guess | 18:49 |
| * somerville32 nods. | 18:50 | |
| ubotu | In ubotu, Jord said: tcpxd is TCP/IP relay or proxy, allowing a connection to a port on a system to be forwarded to another port on any other system. It is useful for firewalls and service relocations, and is small, simple, and fast. http://quozl.us.netrek.org/tcpxd/ | 18:51 |
| LjL | that's better | 18:51 |
| Jord | :) | 18:51 |
| LjL | Jord, that's nice, but isn't there something in the repositories to achieve the same? | 18:52 |
| LjL | when something is available from the repositories, we'd much rather have a factoid on that, than on something that isn't | 18:52 |
| Jord | i wish i could find something | 18:52 |
| Jord | i need a program that does the same as tcpxd except i need to be able to bind it to a port | 18:52 |
| Jord | to an interface* | 18:52 |
| Jord | according to the changelog, tcpxd can do it | 18:53 |
| LjL | Jord, iptables does it fine... you just need to know how to use it | 18:53 |
| Jord | but i cant find documentation about that | 18:53 |
| LjL | Jord, this is not a support channel, but please ask in #ubuntu what exactly you need to do, i'll try to see if i can help you | 18:53 |
| Jord | yeah, it probably can, but i was hoping for something simpler | 18:53 |
| Jord | :) | 18:53 |
| Jord | yeah, soz, its ok | 18:54 |
| LjL | Jord, it's really quite simply, it's most probably one command line | 18:54 |
| Jord | bye :) | 18:54 |
| LjL | Jord, i'm not kidding though, do ask. i'm not an iptables guru, but i do have some port forwarding running on my server | 18:54 |
| Jord | ok | 18:55 |
| LjL | Jord, see my message in #ubuntu, and also | 19:08 |
| LjL | !iptables | 19:08 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). | 19:08 |
| ubotu | Minataku called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic () | 19:41 |
| tritium | Are any of you running irssi-proxy successfully? | 20:24 |
| LjL | mc44 | 20:24 |
| LjL | well, "successfully" | 20:24 |
| mc44 | tritium: yup | 20:25 |
| tritium | mc44: mind if I pick your brain a bit? | 20:25 |
| mc44 | they're not doing anything else :) | 20:25 |
| LjL | if you have an electronic microscope | 20:25 |
| mc44 | ^ funny | 20:25 |
| LjL | i don't even deserve a unicode arrow? | 20:26 |
| tritium | heh | 20:26 |
| mc44 | LjL: if only I could do those without copying and pasting | 20:26 |
| LjL | mc44: uhm, you can | 20:26 |
| tritium | mc44: do you setup an ssh tunnel to the machine running the proxy? | 20:26 |
| mc44 | tritium: whats the problem? | 20:26 |
| mc44 | tritium: yep | 20:26 |
| tritium | mc44: Well, can't connect a client. I'm not even sure the proxy is running properly. | 20:27 |
| LjL | an ssh tunnel... to an untrusted machine? how sound. | 20:27 |
| tritium | What's untrusted about it? | 20:27 |
| mc44 | LjL: ... er.. | 20:27 |
| LjL | tritium: well, mc44's is untrusted | 20:27 |
| tritium | mc44: when I try to connect my client, this is what I get: | 20:28 |
| tritium | channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused | 20:28 |
| mc44 | tritium: how are you trying to connecT? | 20:28 |
| tritium | That error is in the console where I started the tunnel, not in the irc client | 20:28 |
| mc44 | wait, you're not trying to ssh straight to the proxy are you? :) | 20:28 |
| tritium | mc44: no | 20:29 |
| tritium | mc44: I do two things: | 20:29 |
| tritium | ssh -NfL 6667:localhost:6667 htpc | 20:29 |
| tritium | (proxy is running on htpc on port 6667) | 20:29 |
| mc44 | yep | 20:29 |
| tritium | Then, in irc client: /server localhost 6667 <password> | 20:29 |
| tritium | In the irc client, connection is established and then immediately lost | 20:30 |
| tritium | mc44: can you telnet to the port your proxy is running on? (I cannot) | 20:30 |
| LjL | uhm, both ports 6667? for some reason that doesn't sound right to me | 20:31 |
| tritium | LjL: I've tried many different port combinations | 20:31 |
| tritium | Doesn't work in any case. | 20:31 |
| mc44 | tritium: yep telnet works directly | 20:32 |
| mc44 | well it says, Connect to blah | 20:32 |
| tritium | mc44: hrm, so I think the proxy isn't running right. | 20:32 |
| LjL | uhm ok. i still don't quite understand why you need SSH anyway... after all the connection is all in plaintext from the proxy to the IRC server | 20:32 |
| somerville32 | Just FYI: | 20:32 |
| somerville32 | [16:17] <PhobiaBB> thanks you fucking faggots | 20:32 |
| somerville32 | [16:18] * PhobiaBB has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") | 20:32 |
| PriceChild | And then he left | 20:32 |
| LjL | where? | 20:33 |
| PriceChild | x | 20:33 |
| LjL | ah | 20:33 |
| tritium | mc44: thanks for checking that out. I wonder why my proxy isn't running properly. | 20:33 |
| LjL | ban, so it'll show in the bantracker | 20:33 |
| tritium | Do I need to edit /etc/inetd.conf, or something? | 20:33 |
| mc44 | tritium: the module is loaded? :) | 20:33 |
| tritium | mc44: yes, with port and password set | 20:33 |
| mc44 | tritium: you have the port set like: freenode=6667 | 20:34 |
| tritium | LjL: yeah, I'd connect directly too, if I could. | 20:34 |
| tritium | mc44: yes | 20:34 |
| mc44 | tritium: then I'm out of obvious suggestions :) | 20:34 |
| somerville32 | LjL, ban his nick? | 20:34 |
| LjL | somerville32: nick will do | 20:34 |
| tritium | mc44: what does your /set proxy show you? (Don't give me your password, of course) | 20:35 |
| LjL | no, *do* give me your password | 20:35 |
| tritium | heh | 20:35 |
| somerville32 | PriceChild, How did you get his IP? | 20:36 |
| LjL | somerville32: /whowas phobiabb | 20:36 |
| PriceChild | chanserv.py does a whowas... | 20:36 |
| PriceChild | and it also shows up in the quit message | 20:36 |
| somerville32 | oh cool | 20:37 |
| LjL | uhm why can't you use irssi-proxy without SSH? from the descriptions i see on the web, it simply provides an IRC server on a port. shouldn't need SSH | 20:37 |
| mc44 | LjL: if you don't want an open port on your server, for example | 20:40 |
| tritium | aye | 20:40 |
| LjL | mc44: uh... it's open anyway if you SSH to it, isn't it? | 20:40 |
| mc44 | I'd trust SSH over irssi in terms of security | 20:40 |
| jdong | LjL: well with ssh you'd bind irssi-proxy to localhost | 20:42 |
| tritium | What a pain... | 20:42 |
| jdong | LjL: which is different than binding it to a public interface, then transmitting the password to it in cleartext... | 20:42 |
| LjL | jdong: use the same password as the nickserv one... it's already in plaintext :) | 20:43 |
| jdong | LjL: point :) | 20:44 |
| jdong | LjL: not like IRC is a secure medium at any rate :) | 20:44 |
| Mez | jdong? really? | 20:45 |
| * Mez shouts into collar "ABORT!! ABORT!!" | 20:45 | |
| LjL | jdong: which i why i don't very much seeing the point of using SSH for a proxy to begin with | 20:45 |
| tritium | yay, got it working | 20:46 |
| tritium | Thanks, mc44 | 20:46 |
| jdong | LjL: right, I get your point, but I trust the network that my main session is on a lot more than $random_wifi_hotspot | 20:46 |
| mc44 | tritium: no problem | 20:47 |
| LjL | jdong: well... yeah, i suppose | 20:48 |
| jdong | LjL: I'm also not confident enough about the security of irssi-proxy to allow it to offer a publically accessible port... I'd rather have a layer of ssh around it to even talk to the daemon | 20:48 |
| LjL | jdong: well, if it were me, i'd be running it chrooted anyway | 20:50 |
| jdong | LjL: apparmored :) | 20:50 |
| LjL | i'm still in search of a hassle-free packaged irc proxy without weird quirks myself | 20:50 |
| LjL | jdong: doubt it | 20:50 |
| jdong | 15:50 -!- Irssi: process 0 (ls) terminated with signal 9 (Killed) | 20:50 |
| jdong | :) | 20:51 |
| mc44 | LjL: whats quirky about irssiproxy? | 20:51 |
| LjL | mc44: it *is* a quirk. irssi does lots of things i don't tell it to, it even auto-ignores CTCPs when it gets too many, i'm told | 20:52 |
| LjL | and i want a proxy, not a full featured irc client. or operating system, for that matter | 20:52 |
| mc44 | thats a bad thing? | 20:52 |
| LjL | irssi - the emacs of irc | 20:52 |
| LjL | mc44: yes. | 20:52 |
| LjL | mc44: if i want flood protection, i get flood protection. if i want an irc proxy, i get an irc proxy | 20:53 |
| mc44 | you're so demanding | 20:54 |
| LjL | i wouldn't like to find that i have automatic auto-rejoin-on-kick enabled, for instance, without ever telling anything to enable it | 20:54 |
| tritium | Strange. My connected client only sees 8 of the channels I'm in. | 20:54 |
| tritium | mc44: is there some limit I need to increase? | 20:54 |
| LjL | mc44: look, a quirk! | 20:54 |
| tritium | hah! | 20:54 |
| mc44 | tritium: not that I've come across, but I'm not in 8 channels :) | 20:54 |
| mc44 | LjL: I like quirky | 20:55 |
| LjL | mc44: but i wasn't talking about you, i was talking about me | 20:55 |
| LjL | as a rule, it's generally all about me | 20:55 |
| mc44 | see, theres your problem :P | 20:55 |
| tritium | mc44: sheesh, only 2 channels? | 20:55 |
| mc44 | tritium: only two which you're in ;) | 20:55 |
| LjL | !modes | 20:55 |
| ubotu | There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml | 20:55 |
| LjL | that factoid by the way is... | 20:56 |
| tritium | mc44: ah ;) | 20:56 |
| LjL | !no modes is <reply> There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml | 20:56 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that LjL | 20:56 |
| === jussi01_ is now known as jussi01 | ||
| Mez | any staff awake? | 21:02 |
| nalioth | Mez: you can't be arsed to look at 2 minutes of scrollback? | 21:04 |
| Mez | nalioth, 2 mins of scrollback? I talked at least 5 mins after the last channel msg ;) | 21:05 |
| Mez | see /msg anyways | 21:05 |
| nalioth | what /msg ? | 21:05 |
| nalioth | and in #freenode i just spoke right before you asked | 21:06 |
| Mez | nalioth, yeah yeah... I didnt notice in tehre and my /msg went astray | 21:06 |
| PriceChild | Gouki (/GoukiPT) is incoming | 21:24 |
| PriceChild | Remember UbuntuStats? He's reviving it again and should be back for good. | 21:24 |
| LjL | PriceChild, gouki is in this channel already | 21:24 |
| PriceChild | wow so he is | 21:24 |
| somerville32 | lol | 21:25 |
| somerville32 | I love UbuntuStats :) | 21:25 |
| PriceChild | but anyway... so yes... checking channel list, and i suggested possibility of an ubuntu cloak perhaps | 21:27 |
| PriceChild | <[chr0n0s]> rings a bell in #ubuntu | 21:43 |
| PriceChild | What specs of hardware is ubotu currently on? | 21:43 |
| LjL | OperationalError rings a bell in bantracker | 21:44 |
| LjL | PriceChild, i suspect there is one person who knows | 21:46 |
| PriceChild | ccvp also rings a bell | 22:30 |
| LjL | yes PriceChild, old aquaintance, as you've probably guessed from the way i banned | 22:30 |
| PriceChild | :P | 22:31 |
| LjL | i probably removed the knology ban unadvertedly yesterday when i cleaned some bans up | 22:31 |
| gouki | Hi everyone! | 22:47 |
| gouki | As PriceChild mentioned before, UbuntuStats is coming back for good. I bought a cheap plan at VPSLink.com, which gives me root access and a good connection, so I should not have the problems that made me quit the first time. | 22:48 |
| gouki | I have the list of channels I plan on gathering logs, can someone take a look at it? | 22:49 |
| PriceChild | pastebin please ;) | 22:50 |
| gouki | http://goukivps.net/list.txt | 22:55 |
| PriceChild | I'm wondering if we should ask -women about it? | 22:56 |
| LjL | gouki: please, remove #ubuntu-ops from there. also, i suppose you really should ask the contacts of the various channels, as well | 22:56 |
| PriceChild | They are very against logging etc. | 22:56 |
| gouki | Yeah, right. -women doesn't want it. | 22:57 |
| gouki | As for the other ones, I remember having them on the old times | 22:58 |
| gouki | I'll update the list and remove -ops and -women | 22:58 |
| === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick | ||
| gouki | Pizza is here. Please, give me suggestions. | 22:59 |
| LjL | gouki, you've covered the main channels i think. dunno what else - perhaps some other loco channels wouldn't mind. | 23:00 |
| jpatrick | gouki: you can get #kubuntu-es | 23:01 |
| jpatrick | gouki: and I'll speak to the #ubuntu-es guys about it later for you | 23:02 |
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