[00:20] <jetole> soren: I changed my mind, close them all
[00:20] <soren> Aw..
[00:20] <jetole> :P
[00:20] <soren> But I don't wanna!
[00:21] <jetole> Hey there are lots of things I don't wanna do, like leave my room, shave and drag my ass to the office but sometimes you just have to
[00:21] <jetole> now close the channels dammit
[00:21] <jetole> is there a man page for iftab?
[00:22] <jetole> apt-cache search says no
[00:23] <soren> iftab? You're on dapper or something?
[00:23] <nijaba> jetole: if soren and I don't drag our asses out of rooms, we would never get out of the office.
[00:24] <nijaba> would that explain why we do not like closing tabs?
[00:24] <soren> I suppose that's somewhat related, yes :)
[00:24]  * nealmcb wonders what donkeys have to do with the server team :-)
[00:24] <soren> nealmcb: You'd be surprised.
[00:24] <nealmcb> lol
[00:24] <jetole> soren: nope but it has been a while since I had to use iftab. is there replacement for it?
[00:24] <nijaba> donkeys were surprised
[00:25] <soren> jetole: Yes. /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-something
[00:25] <jetole> what DON'T donkeys have to do with the server team?
[00:25] <jetole> cat: /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-something: No such file or directory ;)
[00:27] <jetole> well this file seems odd, I think I will have to RTFM as soon as I can find it
[00:27] <soren> jetole: Reinstall. Something's broken.
[00:27] <nealmcb> reboot a few times first
[00:28] <soren> Yes. An even number of times, of course.
[00:28] <soren> You wouldn't want the AC stabiliser to get out of sync, would you?
[00:28] <soren> jetole: Sorry, make that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
[00:30] <soren> jetole: it's quite simple. It's autogenerated by /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules
[00:30] <soren> jetole: ..if you want to change anything, just move stuff around in the obvious ways.
[00:31] <jetole> I was actually just looking at that from it came up on google and I was about to say this looks a lot easier
[00:31] <jetole> I take it name determined by mac I specify
[00:31] <jetole> like iftab?
[00:36] <soren> Yes, pretty much.
[00:56] <nealmcb> soren, last night jon corbet tipped us off to the most excellent documentation/adventure game of the lguest virtualization code and this delightful thread of lkml: http://kerneltrap.org/node/13992
[00:56] <nealmcb> but I'm probably just way behind the times :)
[01:04] <soren> nealmcb: I hadn't seen that. I'll be looking at it later. It looks like fun :)
[01:04] <soren> Now, it's bedtime, though.
[01:47] <osmosis> http://dpaste.com/28110/    /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error
[01:48] <osmosis> dpkg.log just says   2007-12-14 17:43:59 status half-configured munin-node 1.2.5-1
[02:54] <J-_> Is there a way to use wake on lan with a LAMP server?
[03:51] <Travis> Hi I just put a hard drive in my server from my older server, the data on it is in a format called LVM2 MEMBER, because my old server was LVM, I just need to get the data off it for my new server? how do I go about this?
[05:24] <jetole_> hey guys. I have a question, I compiled a kernel this afternoon using the pre-existing config that came with my system in /boot, after several tries I didn't change anything in it so I should have a duplicate kernel
[05:24] <jetole_> using this new kernel with a copy and paste in grub or with update-grub I had identical grub entries for either kernel and yet the new one would not boot my system
[05:25] <jetole_> it claimed unknown type of media for UUID
[05:25] <jetole_> why would a kernel using the exact same config file have this issue?
[15:52] <mattwalston> dhcpd3 fails to start-up quietly and does not leave any trace in logs after moving to gutsy.  Any suggestions?
[16:00] <mattwalston> let me clarify... dhcpd3 does not start and returns no output
[16:04] <mattwalston> Define ubuntu problem, dhcpd3 works fine if started manually, init script fails everytime... any ideas?
[17:49] <moos3> i need some samba help, i use to remember how to get my system account to be able to log in, I can't remember can someone help me
[17:54] <soren> moos3: "smbpasswd -L -a username" probably.
[17:55] <moos3> but for every user?
[17:55] <moos3> I have some 500 users
[17:56] <moos3> I would use ldap but everytime I install ldap it kills my ubuntu installation
[17:58] <soren> Samba can't authenticate against the system user database (/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow)
[17:59] <soren> Well, yes, if you're running win 95 and can set it to unencrypted logins, but I'm guessing you're not..
[18:01] <soren> moos3: LDAP is surely what you want.
[18:03] <moos3> yeah i was hoping to avoid it because on 7.04 i keeps killing my kernels and recover images
[18:03] <moos3> 7.10 wont even run on my server hardware
[18:03] <soren> LDAP cannot kill your kernel.
[18:03] <moos3> trust me last time I had ldap on my server it shit the bed and wont even boot
[18:04] <soren> You realise that there are other things than the kernel involved in booting, right?
[18:04] <moos3> yeah I know that
[18:04] <soren> And you still believe ldap "killed your kernel"?
[18:05] <soren> You need to qualify that statement somehow? I've not seen a bug report about anything of the sort.
[18:05] <moos3> it killed everything I'm sure its what led to the corrupt kernel
[18:05] <soren> You're trying to fix the wrong problem here.
[18:06] <soren> You tried doing things the right way (use ldap), and failed miserably ("killed your kernel"( and now you want to do things the wrong way instead..
[18:07] <moos3> fresh install the first thing I did was upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 then installed ldap then I logged off and lost power a hour or so later it wouldn't boot it just hanged on kernel load
[18:08] <soren> a) That makes no sense. LDAP does not get anywhere near your kernel. If you've upgraded to 7.04 and lost power before having a chance to reboot it, yes, your kernel might very well be in a bad state due to not having been synced to disk. This has nothing to do with ldap.
[18:08] <moos3> so I had to go thought the miserable install process again because 7.04 doesn't have hardware support for my server, I spent about 2 hours of reinstall time
[18:08] <soren> Besides, you said "every time". This is a single instance, I hope?
[18:09] <moos3> nope I have tried it install first then upgrade to 7.04, then reboot, no go, i got everything install now with out ldap and life is good, but I need to get system users to access, and I'm not going to have a choice but to use ldap
[18:10] <moos3> in bsd I have never had this type of problem before,
[18:11] <soren> You're messing things up here.. Why don't you install 7.04 directly instead of upgrading?=
[18:11]  * soren will be right back
[18:12] <moos3> because 7.04 install hangs at 21% when loading libc6-udeb
[18:12] <moos3> same with 7.10
[18:13] <mattwalston> What's new in virtualization?  Should I go with vmware-server or xen on gutsy?
[18:17] <sommer> hey all, anyone a moderator to the ubuntu-server mailing list?
[18:22] <soren> sommer: Yes?
[18:22] <sommer> soren: I just sent a message with an attachment of 137k.  just wondering if that could go through this once?
[18:23] <sommer> trying to get some help with a backup section to the server guide.
[18:23] <soren> sommer: Already did. Like 27 seconds after you sent it.
[18:23] <soren> sommer: More than 15 minutes ago, surely.
[18:23] <sommer> soren: oh cool, thank you very much
[18:23] <soren> sommer: np :)
[18:23] <sommer> I just saw the bounce message
[18:24] <soren> sommer: Ah. I might get the notification about stuff needing moderation faster than you get the bounce message. :) Don't know.
[18:24] <sommer> soren: probably not, but I started writing another message right after sending.  so I didn't check for new mail right away.
[18:25] <soren> sommer: Oh, got it.
[18:25] <soren> moos3: I see. I need to make a phone call right now. I'll get back to you later.
[18:25] <moos3> ok
[18:26] <moos3> i got a bunch of python to write, just let me know when your back
[18:59] <Matts> are there problems with mdadm when deleting MD's in the server edition during the installation ?
[20:06] <ember> jdstrand: there?
[20:08] <ember> bug 176175
[20:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 176175 in linux-ftpd-ssl "CVE-2007-6263: security vulnerability in linux-ftpd-ssl" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176175
[23:57]  * MatBoy solved it..