| matkor | abentley: Thanks a lot ! | 00:25 |
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| * beuno wonders why nobody with access to planet.bazaar hasn't made a post about 1.0 | 02:01 | |
| Peng | planet.bazaar? | 02:04 |
| jelmer | http://planet.bazaar-vcs.org/ | 02:08 |
| Peng | Neat. | 02:09 |
| TFKyle | they're all too busy drinking I assume | 02:12 |
| jdub | query for interest's sake | 02:34 |
| jdub | after upgrade: | 02:34 |
| jdub | 4.7M .bzr/ | 02:34 |
| jdub | 14M .bzr.backup/ | 02:34 |
| jdub | after reconcile: | 02:34 |
| jdub | 9.1M .bzr/ | 02:34 |
| jdub | 14M .bzr.backup/ | 02:34 |
| jdub | why is that? | 02:34 |
| jdub | (re: size of .bzr) | 02:34 |
| Peng | jdub: obsolete_packs? | 02:35 |
| jdub | Peng: ah, that's added during reconcile? | 02:35 |
| Peng | jdub: The old packs are backed up whenever they're recreated ("bzr pack", auto-packing, and reconcile). | 02:36 |
| jdub | righto | 02:37 |
| jdub | well, i'm all upgraded to 1.0 now -- yum :-) | 02:37 |
| * TFKyle stabs rapidshare, this is starting to get ridiculous | 08:53 | |
| fullermd | abentley: There, I just submitted the upgrade req for bzrtools 1.0, and optionalized the graphviz dependancy. I don't have to smack me now ;) | 08:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi all. is an svn repo import something that can only be done as a one off, or can i reimport if the svn repo changes? | 10:09 |
| Alexia_Death | Hello. I have a theoretical question about bazaar. | 11:01 |
| Alexia_Death | namely would it be usable as local repositroy mangagement tool under a "add-on" manager? | 11:02 |
| bob2 | Kamping_Kaiser: you can pull and push from branches in svn | 11:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bob2, thanks. | 11:13 |
| * Alexia_Death is putting togheter a consept for GIMP add-on library that would be a crossbreed between apt portage and SVN... | 11:15 | |
| Alexia_Death | and bidirectional all the way. | 11:16 |
| soxs | sry, I am a total bzr newbie | 11:43 |
| soxs | *g* | 11:43 |
| soxs | so let me ask a very simple, stupid q | 11:43 |
| soxs | I want to update exaile to the latest version | 11:43 |
| soxs | so I did bzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main exaile | 11:44 |
| soxs | so I got the dev branch | 11:44 |
| soxs | but how can I update my installed programm | 11:44 |
| soxs | update | 11:44 |
| soxs | located /usr/lib/exaile | 11:45 |
| soxs | I know that I have to use bzr update | 11:45 |
| soxs | but from which folder?? | 11:45 |
| luks | in the bzr branch | 11:45 |
| soxs | the checkout folder or /usr/lib/exaile | 11:45 |
| soxs | thx | 11:45 |
| soxs | ^^ | 11:45 |
| luks | putting it to /usr/lib/exaile is probably a job for some install script | 11:46 |
| bob2 | is there a README or INSTALL file in the tree you checked out? (this is application-specific, nothing to do with bzr) | 11:46 |
| soxs | well, exaile is a gnome music player, aming to be similar to amarok but or gtk | 11:47 |
| soxs | f | 11:47 |
| kripken | most likely you would run "make install" to install it to the actual location (/usr/lib in this case) | 11:47 |
| soxs | well, thx | 11:48 |
| soxs | o, this messed the installed version up :-/ | 12:20 |
| soxs | well, does't really matter.. gone compile it rom source | 12:20 |
| mrZeby | somedoby have try to install bzr and qbzr on windows vista ? | 13:13 |
| mrZeby | hello re.. how to install pyqt4 ? | 13:21 |
| luks | mrZeby: are you using the compiled bzr or from sources with your own python installation? | 13:23 |
| luks | http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/Downloads/PyQt4/GPL/PyQt-Py2.5-gpl-4.3.3-1.exe | 13:24 |
| mrZeby | lucks : thanks for answering.. i try to install python based installers with my own python 2.5 installation | 13:24 |
| luks | then install pyqt using the link above | 13:25 |
| mrZeby | so easy ? on this site they say : instal SID, use make to compile source,... ? | 13:25 |
| luks | you can uncheck dev tools, docs and examples when installing it | 13:26 |
| luks | which site? | 13:26 |
| mrZeby | SIP | 13:26 |
| mrZeby | on the doc of http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/Docs/PyQt4/pyqt4ref.html | 13:27 |
| luks | always first look on pages like http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php :) | 13:27 |
| mrZeby | but perhaps i dont need to recompile anything to use qbzr ? | 13:27 |
| luks | no, you don't | 13:27 |
| luks | just use the pyqt installed | 13:27 |
| mrZeby | nice new you give to me :-) | 13:27 |
| luks | installer | 13:27 |
| mrZeby | i soo stupid.. i had no see the download link for binaries !!!! | 13:32 |
| mrZeby | re hello all | 15:22 |
| mrZeby | i have installed bzr and qbzr... but how to launch qbzr ? | 15:22 |
| luks | mrZeby: there is no "qbzr" to launch | 15:44 |
| luks | it's just a bunch of separate commands | 15:44 |
| mrZeby | a command like qlog made on a versionned directory will show some informations in a window ? something like this ? | 15:49 |
| luks | yes | 15:50 |
| mrZeby | so.. for windows users there is no GUI like winCVS for CVS or rapidSVN for subversion... no so user friendly | 15:51 |
| luks | qbzr will have a wincvs like interface in one of the next version | 15:51 |
| luks | but not for now | 15:51 |
| luks | there is olive, but it doesn't work well enough in my experience | 15:51 |
| mrZeby | yes i have try olive and find is not really usable | 15:52 |
| mrZeby | and tortoiseBZr not so powerfull as tortoisesvn ou tortoisecvs | 15:53 |
| luks | I mainly use command line, that's why qbzr looks like it looks | 15:53 |
| mrZeby | you are the qbzr developer ? | 15:54 |
| luks | yes | 15:54 |
| mrZeby | ouah nice to meet you :-) | 15:54 |
| luks | :) | 15:54 |
| mrZeby | it'is the first time i speak with a software i will use :-) | 15:55 |
| jelmer | it would be nice to have somebody back hacking on tortoisebzr.. | 15:55 |
| mrZeby | i speak with the developer of a software... | 15:56 |
| mrZeby | then i use | 15:56 |
| mrZeby | nice nice nice | 15:56 |
| mrZeby | well | 15:56 |
| mrZeby | the community for bzr looks to be very active | 15:57 |
| mrZeby | jelmer : and you ? your are the tortoisebzr developer ? | 16:00 |
| jelmer | mrZeby: I work on various bzr-related bits and pieces | 16:01 |
| jelmer | I worked on the original version of tortoisebzr and I work on bzr-gtk | 16:01 |
| mrZeby | you are mostly linux developers ? | 16:04 |
| jelmer | yes, the majority is, though there are some people on windows as well | 16:05 |
| jelmer | and some people using both | 16:05 |
| mrZeby | jelmer, luks : thanks for explanations, have a day end of day... see you.. bye | 16:18 |
| mrZeby | have a nice end of day | 16:19 |
| jelmer | thanks, you too | 16:19 |
| mrZeby | i english is a little bit funny lol | 16:19 |
| Stavros | hello | 17:13 |
| Stavros | is there an easy way to disable push-on-commit? | 17:13 |
| jelmer | Stavros: "bzr unbind" | 17:13 |
| Stavros | ah, thanks | 17:13 |
| Stavros | when does it bind by default? | 17:13 |
| jelmer | Stavros: "bzr co" binds by default | 17:13 |
| jelmer | "bzr branch" does not | 17:14 |
| Stavros | is that the only difference between the two? | 17:14 |
| jelmer | yes | 17:14 |
| Stavros | ah, thanks | 17:14 |
| thumper | morning | 19:58 |
| izm99 | I've started a a new project and have a couple commits but I want to branch what I'm currently working on to a ".experimental" or something. What's the best way to do this? | 20:11 |
| luks | izm99: you mean something like "bzr branch main experimental; cd experimenta; bzr merge --uncommitted ../main" ? | 20:13 |
| izm99 | luks: i'm not sure... :P I started a project by doing "bzr init; bzr add;" in a project folder. I've since done a couple commits, but what i've done most recently, i don't want to commit to the main (and somewhat stable) branch... I want to commit it into a new branch which I will merge back later. if that makes sense. I'm just learning this (obviously) :) | 20:17 |
| luks | izm99: yes, then merge --uncommited will do what you want | 20:18 |
| luks | just branch of the main branch, merge the uncommitted changes to the new branch, and bzr revert in the main branch | 20:18 |
| john76 | Hi all | 20:21 |
| john76 | New to Bazaar and love everything I've seen so far but concerned about one feature | 20:21 |
| john76 | Does remove really delete all history for a file? | 20:21 |
| jelmer | john76: no, it does not | 20:21 |
| jelmer | it's still visible in history | 20:22 |
| john76 | good, I've read the docs and tried it myself and had results which suggest it did | 20:22 |
| john76 | I tried bzr log <deletedfilename> | 20:22 |
| john76 | plus tried to uncommit | 20:22 |
| jelmer | uncommit+revert should bring it back | 20:23 |
| john76 | but I haven't got far enough in the docs I guess to know what I'm really up to | 20:23 |
| john76 | ah, excellent | 20:23 |
| john76 | I'll keep reading then, my concern became to great to ignore | 20:24 |
| john76 | really appreciate the help | 20:24 |
| john76 | thanks | 20:24 |
| izm99 | luks: so within my project folder, "bzr merge --uncommitted ../project.experimental" ? | 20:27 |
| mwhudson | izm99: no | 20:27 |
| mwhudson | other way around | 20:27 |
| izm99 | :/ | 20:27 |
| mwhudson | within your project.experimental folder, bzr merge ../project | 20:28 |
| izm99 | oh... merge <destination branch> <parent> ? | 20:29 |
| izm99 | ok, I only have "project" which is the folder I'm in. This is the original, it's not centralized or anything. so "../project" is the current folder. I want to create a new "../project.experimental" branch with what i've current done (uncommitted). Should I manually rename the folder to "project.experimental"? | 20:47 |
| izm99 | I tried following what's been suggested so far in a new simple project, in "project" I made some files, added them, then "bzr merge --uncommitted ../project" .. It said All changes applied successfully, but that's itself. | 20:48 |
| luks | izm99: in the folder above "project" run "bzr branch project project.experimental" | 20:50 |
| luks | then go to project experimental and run "bzr merge --uncommitted ../project" | 20:51 |
| luks | and in project run "bzr revert" | 20:51 |
| jml | have the bazaar-vcs.org debs been updated? | 20:51 |
| izm99 | luks: ok, thanks, I'll try that. | 20:51 |
| luks | that way you will have two branches, one only with the "stable" committed changes, and the experimental one with uncommitted changes | 20:51 |
| thumper | jml: not yet | 20:52 |
| jml | what a pain. | 20:52 |
| izm99 | luks: sweet, that worked. thanks. :) | 20:56 |
| ricardokirkner | hi. Is there any documentation (I couldnt find any) on how to use the bzr smart server? | 21:10 |
| mhb | Hello, I get AssertionError: unexpected response code ('error', "Unknown branch format: 'Bazaar pack repository format 1 (needs bzr 0.92)\\n'") whenever I want to push a change via bzr+ssh. | 21:15 |
| mhb | using bzr 1.0.0.candidate.1 on python 2.5.1.final.0 (linux2) . | 21:16 |
| mhb | hmm, sftp seems to work well enough. forget it. | 21:18 |
| jml | mhb: do you know what version of Bazaar is running on the server? | 21:19 |
| mhb | jml: I guess that could be it. Thanks! | 21:21 |
| jml | ricardokirkner: let me have a look. | 21:21 |
| jml | ricardokirkner: one of the reasons you might not be able to find much documentation is that it's actually quite simple. | 21:21 |
| jml | ricardokirkner: have you seen http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/index.html#running-a-smart-server? | 21:22 |
| ricardokirkner | ok, great | 21:23 |
| ricardokirkner | thanks | 21:23 |
| jml | ricardokirkner: np. | 21:28 |
| AnMaster | 1.0 out?! | 21:46 |
| AnMaster | cool!! | 21:46 |
| AnMaster | where do I find docs on the gpg signing stuff then? | 21:46 |
| jelmer | hi AnMaster | 21:48 |
| jelmer | the user guide contains some documentation probably | 21:48 |
| jelmer | verifying signatures isn't possible yet afaik | 21:48 |
| igc | morning all | 22:18 |
| jelmer | hi igc | 22:30 |
| jelmer | congrats on 1.0 (-: | 22:30 |
| igc | hi jelmer - great to hear from you | 22:30 |
| igc | how are things? | 22:30 |
| jelmer | Very well, thanks :-) | 22:33 |
| poolie | hello jelmer, igc | 22:39 |
| igc | hi poolie | 22:40 |
| jelmer | hi poolie | 22:47 |
| jelmer | congrats to you as well! | 22:47 |
| AnMaster | does bzr have anything like the svn:externals thing? | 23:47 |
| Peng | AnMaster: Not yet. | 23:58 |
| AnMaster | ok | 23:58 |
| AnMaster | Peng, when will it be added ? | 23:58 |
| AnMaster | 2008? | 23:58 |
| AnMaster | is there a change log between 0.92 and 1.0? | 23:59 |
| Peng | AnMaster: Dunno. There's an experimental disk format that supports it, but the commands don't. | 23:59 |
| Peng | AnMaster: NEWS. | 23:59 |
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