[00:25] abentley: Thanks a lot ! [02:01] * beuno wonders why nobody with access to planet.bazaar hasn't made a post about 1.0 [02:04] planet.bazaar? [02:08] http://planet.bazaar-vcs.org/ [02:09] Neat. [02:12] they're all too busy drinking I assume [02:34] query for interest's sake [02:34] after upgrade: [02:34] 4.7M .bzr/ [02:34] 14M .bzr.backup/ [02:34] after reconcile: [02:34] 9.1M .bzr/ [02:34] 14M .bzr.backup/ [02:34] why is that? [02:34] (re: size of .bzr) [02:35] jdub: obsolete_packs? [02:35] Peng: ah, that's added during reconcile? [02:36] jdub: The old packs are backed up whenever they're recreated ("bzr pack", auto-packing, and reconcile). [02:37] righto [02:37] well, i'm all upgraded to 1.0 now -- yum :-) [08:53] * TFKyle stabs rapidshare, this is starting to get ridiculous [08:54] abentley: There, I just submitted the upgrade req for bzrtools 1.0, and optionalized the graphviz dependancy. I don't have to smack me now ;) [10:09] hi all. is an svn repo import something that can only be done as a one off, or can i reimport if the svn repo changes? [11:01] Hello. I have a theoretical question about bazaar. [11:02] namely would it be usable as local repositroy mangagement tool under a "add-on" manager? [11:12] Kamping_Kaiser: you can pull and push from branches in svn [11:13] bob2, thanks. [11:15] * Alexia_Death is putting togheter a consept for GIMP add-on library that would be a crossbreed between apt portage and SVN... [11:16] and bidirectional all the way. [11:43] sry, I am a total bzr newbie [11:43] *g* [11:43] so let me ask a very simple, stupid q [11:43] I want to update exaile to the latest version [11:44] so I did bzr checkout http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main exaile [11:44] so I got the dev branch [11:44] but how can I update my installed programm [11:44] update [11:45] located /usr/lib/exaile [11:45] I know that I have to use bzr update [11:45] but from which folder?? [11:45] in the bzr branch [11:45] the checkout folder or /usr/lib/exaile [11:45] thx [11:45] ^^ [11:46] putting it to /usr/lib/exaile is probably a job for some install script [11:46] is there a README or INSTALL file in the tree you checked out? (this is application-specific, nothing to do with bzr) [11:47] well, exaile is a gnome music player, aming to be similar to amarok but or gtk [11:47] f [11:47] most likely you would run "make install" to install it to the actual location (/usr/lib in this case) [11:48] well, thx [12:20] o, this messed the installed version up :-/ [12:20] well, does't really matter.. gone compile it rom source [13:13] somedoby have try to install bzr and qbzr on windows vista ? [13:21] hello re.. how to install pyqt4 ? [13:23] mrZeby: are you using the compiled bzr or from sources with your own python installation? [13:24] http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/Downloads/PyQt4/GPL/PyQt-Py2.5-gpl-4.3.3-1.exe [13:24] lucks : thanks for answering.. i try to install python based installers with my own python 2.5 installation [13:25] then install pyqt using the link above [13:25] so easy ? on this site they say : instal SID, use make to compile source,... ? [13:26] you can uncheck dev tools, docs and examples when installing it [13:26] which site? [13:26] SIP [13:27] on the doc of http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/Docs/PyQt4/pyqt4ref.html [13:27] always first look on pages like http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php :) [13:27] but perhaps i dont need to recompile anything to use qbzr ? [13:27] no, you don't [13:27] just use the pyqt installed [13:27] nice new you give to me :-) [13:27] installer [13:32] i soo stupid.. i had no see the download link for binaries !!!! [15:22] re hello all [15:22] i have installed bzr and qbzr... but how to launch qbzr ? [15:44] mrZeby: there is no "qbzr" to launch [15:44] it's just a bunch of separate commands [15:49] a command like qlog made on a versionned directory will show some informations in a window ? something like this ? [15:50] yes [15:51] so.. for windows users there is no GUI like winCVS for CVS or rapidSVN for subversion... no so user friendly [15:51] qbzr will have a wincvs like interface in one of the next version [15:51] but not for now [15:51] there is olive, but it doesn't work well enough in my experience [15:52] yes i have try olive and find is not really usable [15:53] and tortoiseBZr not so powerfull as tortoisesvn ou tortoisecvs [15:53] I mainly use command line, that's why qbzr looks like it looks [15:54] you are the qbzr developer ? [15:54] yes [15:54] ouah nice to meet you :-) [15:54] :) [15:55] it'is the first time i speak with a software i will use :-) [15:55] it would be nice to have somebody back hacking on tortoisebzr.. [15:56] i speak with the developer of a software... [15:56] then i use [15:56] nice nice nice [15:56] well [15:57] the community for bzr looks to be very active [16:00] jelmer : and you ? your are the tortoisebzr developer ? [16:01] mrZeby: I work on various bzr-related bits and pieces [16:01] I worked on the original version of tortoisebzr and I work on bzr-gtk [16:04] you are mostly linux developers ? [16:05] yes, the majority is, though there are some people on windows as well [16:05] and some people using both [16:18] jelmer, luks : thanks for explanations, have a day end of day... see you.. bye [16:19] have a nice end of day [16:19] thanks, you too [16:19] i english is a little bit funny lol [17:13] hello [17:13] is there an easy way to disable push-on-commit? [17:13] Stavros: "bzr unbind" [17:13] ah, thanks [17:13] when does it bind by default? [17:13] Stavros: "bzr co" binds by default [17:14] "bzr branch" does not [17:14] is that the only difference between the two? [17:14] yes [17:14] ah, thanks [19:58] morning [20:11] I've started a a new project and have a couple commits but I want to branch what I'm currently working on to a ".experimental" or something. What's the best way to do this? [20:13] izm99: you mean something like "bzr branch main experimental; cd experimenta; bzr merge --uncommitted ../main" ? [20:17] luks: i'm not sure... :P I started a project by doing "bzr init; bzr add;" in a project folder. I've since done a couple commits, but what i've done most recently, i don't want to commit to the main (and somewhat stable) branch... I want to commit it into a new branch which I will merge back later. if that makes sense. I'm just learning this (obviously) :) [20:18] izm99: yes, then merge --uncommited will do what you want [20:18] just branch of the main branch, merge the uncommitted changes to the new branch, and bzr revert in the main branch [20:21] Hi all [20:21] New to Bazaar and love everything I've seen so far but concerned about one feature [20:21] Does remove really delete all history for a file? [20:21] john76: no, it does not [20:22] it's still visible in history [20:22] good, I've read the docs and tried it myself and had results which suggest it did [20:22] I tried bzr log [20:22] plus tried to uncommit [20:23] uncommit+revert should bring it back [20:23] but I haven't got far enough in the docs I guess to know what I'm really up to [20:23] ah, excellent [20:24] I'll keep reading then, my concern became to great to ignore [20:24] really appreciate the help [20:24] thanks [20:27] luks: so within my project folder, "bzr merge --uncommitted ../project.experimental" ? [20:27] izm99: no [20:27] other way around [20:27] :/ [20:28] within your project.experimental folder, bzr merge ../project [20:29] oh... merge ? [20:47] ok, I only have "project" which is the folder I'm in. This is the original, it's not centralized or anything. so "../project" is the current folder. I want to create a new "../project.experimental" branch with what i've current done (uncommitted). Should I manually rename the folder to "project.experimental"? [20:48] I tried following what's been suggested so far in a new simple project, in "project" I made some files, added them, then "bzr merge --uncommitted ../project" .. It said All changes applied successfully, but that's itself. [20:50] izm99: in the folder above "project" run "bzr branch project project.experimental" [20:51] then go to project experimental and run "bzr merge --uncommitted ../project" [20:51] and in project run "bzr revert" [20:51] have the bazaar-vcs.org debs been updated? [20:51] luks: ok, thanks, I'll try that. [20:51] that way you will have two branches, one only with the "stable" committed changes, and the experimental one with uncommitted changes [20:52] jml: not yet [20:52] what a pain. [20:56] luks: sweet, that worked. thanks. :) [21:10] hi. Is there any documentation (I couldnt find any) on how to use the bzr smart server? [21:15] Hello, I get AssertionError: unexpected response code ('error', "Unknown branch format: 'Bazaar pack repository format 1 (needs bzr 0.92)\\n'") whenever I want to push a change via bzr+ssh. [21:16] using bzr 1.0.0.candidate.1 on python 2.5.1.final.0 (linux2) . [21:18] hmm, sftp seems to work well enough. forget it. [21:19] mhb: do you know what version of Bazaar is running on the server? [21:21] jml: I guess that could be it. Thanks! [21:21] ricardokirkner: let me have a look. [21:21] ricardokirkner: one of the reasons you might not be able to find much documentation is that it's actually quite simple. [21:22] ricardokirkner: have you seen http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/index.html#running-a-smart-server? [21:23] ok, great [21:23] thanks [21:28] ricardokirkner: np. [21:46] 1.0 out?! [21:46] cool!! [21:46] where do I find docs on the gpg signing stuff then? [21:48] hi AnMaster [21:48] the user guide contains some documentation probably [21:48] verifying signatures isn't possible yet afaik [22:18] morning all [22:30] hi igc [22:30] congrats on 1.0 (-: [22:30] hi jelmer - great to hear from you [22:30] how are things? [22:33] Very well, thanks :-) [22:39] hello jelmer, igc [22:40] hi poolie [22:47] hi poolie [22:47] congrats to you as well! [23:47] does bzr have anything like the svn:externals thing? [23:58] AnMaster: Not yet. [23:58] ok [23:58] Peng, when will it be added ? [23:58] 2008? [23:59] is there a change log between 0.92 and 1.0? [23:59] AnMaster: Dunno. There's an experimental disk format that supports it, but the commands don't. [23:59] AnMaster: NEWS.