| red_team316 | If I was to search for one file that signifies KDE is installed, what would it be? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| nixternal | dpkg -l kdebase* | 00:06 |
| nixternal | dpkg -l kdebase* |grep ii | 00:06 |
| nixternal | that is even better | 00:06 |
| red_team316 | well that only works on debian based. Suppose its RPM based | 00:07 |
| nixternal | ls /usr/share/apps/ | 00:08 |
| nixternal | if you have a sea of apps starting with K, then you might be on to something :) | 00:08 |
| nixternal | red_team316: is it snowing down by you right now? | 00:09 |
| red_team316 | yea, we got 4 inches of snow so far and its still coming down | 00:09 |
| claydoh | is it just me, or is kwin in kde4 running smoother/better with effects enabled than disabled? | 00:09 |
| nixternal | holy smokes | 00:09 |
| nixternal | we only have a couple of inches up here in Chicago | 00:09 |
| * claydoh braces for another Nor'Easter toimorrow | 00:10 | |
| nixternal | it is running great with effects disabled for me claydoh | 00:10 |
| nixternal | claydoh: you are getting what red_team316 and I are getting | 00:10 |
| nixternal | s/are/will be | 00:10 |
| claydoh | we already have hade a foot and a half of the white stuff this winter | 00:10 |
| claydoh | which is unusual | 00:10 |
| claydoh | this early | 00:11 |
| nixternal | what would you expect for maine this type of year? :) | 00:11 |
| claydoh | a brown christmas :) | 00:11 |
| nixternal | hell, you guys even had a late season hurricane up around there didn't you? | 00:11 |
| claydoh | as is the norm lol | 00:11 |
| nixternal | ya, brown christmas here in Chicago has been the norm as well | 00:12 |
| claydoh | we had a gusty spell form one iirc, but no real hurricane i think | 00:12 |
| nixternal | I remember the 1995 nor'easter that brought 4 feet of snow tot he DC metro area in less than 2 days | 00:12 |
| nixternal | and the 1994 nor'easter that brought tons of ice | 00:13 |
| claydoh | colder=better, as I remember our ioce storm in 98, subzero temps and no poere for over 4 days | 00:13 |
| claydoh | s/ioce/ice | 00:13 |
| nixternal | like Oklahoma...but they told them 7 to 10 days until power is back | 00:13 |
| claydoh | yeah, our outer towns went about that long | 00:14 |
| claydoh | but here no one was hurt or died | 00:14 |
| yuriy | i can't imagine no power for 7 to 10 days | 00:14 |
| nixternal | ya I couldn't either | 00:15 |
| nixternal | no internet for that long...pfft, I would go nuts :) | 00:15 |
| claydoh | 4 days was terrible | 00:15 |
| nixternal | 4 hours was terrible :) | 00:15 |
| claydoh | no phone/tv/net/heat | 00:15 |
| nixternal | not having a phone would be fine with me | 00:16 |
| nixternal | tv is iffy | 00:16 |
| nixternal | net, no way | 00:16 |
| claydoh | we drove an hour one way to get to nearest family (and a wood stove) | 00:16 |
| nixternal | heat, I have enough clothes ;) | 00:16 |
| claydoh | we had to hand pump water from the well there :) | 00:16 |
| claydoh | even for the toilet to flush | 00:17 |
| claydoh | heh | 00:17 |
| claydoh | luckily it was about 5-10 degrees F, so we just threw our food into a cooler or 2 and buried it under some snow/ice | 00:19 |
| hads | Seems it's having kdepim-kde4 installed that messes with kmail | 00:20 |
| red_team316 | where is KDE's equivalent to /usr/bin/gnome-session. I cant find a kde-session :/ | 00:28 |
| nixternal | what is gnome-session? | 00:28 |
| pexi | startkde | 00:28 |
| red_team316 | as far as I know, it's the file that allows you to login to gnome | 00:29 |
| nixternal | then exactly what pexi said :) | 00:29 |
| pexi | red_team316: is the command to start kde | 00:29 |
| red_team316 | thanks, found it | 00:30 |
| red_team316 | figured it would have started with a k | 00:31 |
| ardchoille | Ok, I have made a few packages and am really liking debhelper and devscripts | 00:59 |
| ardchoille | Not sure I like pbuilder, tho | 00:59 |
| yuriy | what do i do about soprano when compiling kde4 on gutsy? (it wants 1.99) | 01:21 |
| vorian | http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/ | 01:22 |
| * vorian hides from nixternal | 01:22 | |
| vorian | yuriy, on that link | 01:22 |
| yuriy | thanks vorian | 01:23 |
| yuriy | er isn't this just the one from gutsy? | 01:23 |
| yuriy | it complains about libc6 | 01:24 |
| jjesse | hrmm computer froze while i was out for dinner, upon restart kde4 session doesn't provide the taskbar (or whatever its technical term is) | 01:24 |
| vorian | yuriy, it's for hardy /me thinks | 01:24 |
| vorian | intall libsoprano4 first then libsoprano-dev | 01:25 |
| yuriy | vorian: libsoprano4 wants libc6 >= 2.7-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.6.1-1ubuntu10. | 01:25 |
| yuriy | also wants newer qt and libclucene | 01:26 |
| vorian | hmm | 01:27 |
| vorian | did you try to compile from svn ~/kdesupport/soprano? | 01:27 |
| yuriy | vorian: well i think it is compiled from there too but it's using the system one and i don't know how to change that | 01:27 |
| vorian | afaik, it was built from svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesupport/soprano | 01:29 |
| jjesse | hrmm | 01:34 |
| jjesse | ok somehow my application launcher, my system tray and everything has disappeared in my kde4 version | 01:36 |
| tlayton | hey, want to share this b/c it took me forever to find. i was getting symbol lookup errors from libQt* trying to run kde 4 apps on hardy. turns out the /opt/nessus/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf was causing the problem. removed it and kde 4 apps now work | 03:23 |
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| mgolden | A question regrding the KDE4 RC2 live CD: | 06:35 |
| mgolden | Does anyone knw if it does something odd with X11? | 06:36 |
| mgolden | I have never had a problem installing kubuntu on my old Sony Vaio PCG-XG19 | 06:37 |
| mgolden | but with this live CD I see it start up, and then crash, then restart... repeatedly | 06:37 |
| mgolden | When I start in safe graphics mode it's ok | 06:38 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: what do you want to hunt me to do? | 08:49 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: do you have archive powers? Can you sync digikam and kipi-plugins? | 09:08 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: bug 176615 and bug 176620 | 09:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 176615 in digikam "sync digikam 0.9.3~rc1-1 from debian/experimental" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176615 | 09:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 176620 in kipi-plugins "sync kipi-plugins 0.1.5~beta1-3 from debian/experimental" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176620 | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: no, not unless i use pitti's sync script | 09:09 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: ok, no problem will wait for archive day than | 09:09 |
| hads | Anyone know how to launch the panel applet in KDE4? it crashed and doesn't want to come back. | 09:35 |
| jpatrick | plasma? | 09:35 |
| hads | Yeah, plasma is running and I have applets on the desktop but no panel. | 09:36 |
| hads | Moving plasma-appletsrc out of the way fixed it. | 09:42 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please attach -kde4 to the kopete-encrypt thing and get a revu admin to nuke the one without -kde4 | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | stdin: the close bug should be * Initial release (LP: #176471) - i.e. no seperate line | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please state the version of GPL under which the package is licensed | 10:17 |
| apachelogger | stdin: build-dep on kdelibs5-dev is redundant since kdenetwork-dev-kde4 depends on it | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please don't exceed 80 characters for build-depends (line break + next line starts with a whitespace | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | ) | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | stdin: section should be kde | 10:22 |
| stdin | apachelogger: done all that except it does say "This package is licenced under the GNU/GPL version 2 or later" already in debian/copyright | 10:25 |
| cheguevara | morning | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | morning cheguevara | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | stdin: uhm, don't see that in the .diff on revu ... should be GNU GPL anyway :P | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | ah | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:26 |
| * apachelogger starts thinking | 10:26 | |
| apachelogger | stdin: please state at the "The Debian packaging is..." that it is GPL version 2 or later as well | 10:27 |
| apachelogger | might lead to confusion though, as we just noticed ;-) | 10:28 |
| stdin | right, done that, I'll upload as soon as the 1st upload clears from /incoming :p | 10:30 |
| * cheguevara wonders if apachelogger will review kmldonkey-kde4 next | 10:30 | |
| apachelogger | kay | 10:30 |
| stdin | the only difference is the "version 2 or later" bit anyway | 10:30 |
| apachelogger | cheguevara: nah, post-launch I'll study some french | 10:30 |
| apachelogger | have a major exam tomorrow | 10:30 |
| cheguevara | oh cool | 10:31 |
| apachelogger | though it's kinda pointless since I haven't learned anything yet -.- | 10:31 |
| cheguevara | heh | 10:31 |
| jpatrick | scalure blau :O | 10:31 |
| cheguevara | jpatrick could review as well :P | 10:32 |
| jpatrick | hmm, you got me | 10:34 |
| jpatrick | cheguevara: what is quilt needed for? | 10:34 |
| cheguevara | the patches | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: for tha cdbs stuff | 10:34 |
| cheguevara | no | 10:34 |
| cheguevara | dunno why i just said that | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | :P | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | first think - then write :P | 10:35 |
| cheguevara | so true | 10:35 |
| jpatrick | cheguevara: today is not Thu the 15th | 10:36 |
| cheguevara | it wasn't uploaded today | 10:36 |
| jpatrick | yes, but yesterday was the 15th and it was Sat | 10:36 |
| cheguevara | actually | 10:36 |
| cheguevara | i see ur point | 10:36 |
| cheguevara | yeah sorry, really should think first as apachelogger said :P | 10:37 |
| stdin | cheguevara: it's easier to use "dch" to create changelog entries :) | 10:37 |
| cheguevara | what can be easier then nanon?! | 10:38 |
| cheguevara | :P | 10:38 |
| cheguevara | *nano | 10:38 |
| stdin | like i said, dch :p | 10:38 |
| cheguevara | the right answer is pico :P | 10:39 |
| stdin | pico == nano | 10:39 |
| cheguevara | stdin, thanks will do | 10:39 |
| cheguevara | nah nano is improved pic | 10:39 |
| cheguevara | *pico | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | stdin: btw, you might want to use XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 10:39 |
| stdin | cheguevara: I mean by default pico is actually nano | 10:40 |
| stdin | apachelogger: I was going to do that yesterday but got distracted by something shiny | 10:40 |
| cheguevara | stdin, oh i see what you mean | 10:41 |
| cheguevara | never knew its like that on ubuntu | 10:41 |
| jpatrick | stdin: same with kopete*-kde4, today not Thu | 10:41 |
| cheguevara | :P | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | rofl | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | now, ksirk seriously needs some graphics guy | 10:42 |
| stdin | apachelogger: is this one ok? | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please update debianized date in copyright | 10:53 |
| stdin | anything else before I upload? | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | yes | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | stdin: gettext is redundant | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | debhelper depends on po-debconf and that depends on gettext | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | * Version: 4:3.97.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1~ppa1 | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | * Architecture: amd64 | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | * Archive: kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | & lpia died. | 10:55 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: I re-uploaded just about everything to fix the .desktop files issues and to include the patch to startkde | 10:57 |
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| apachelogger | meh | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | wocka connection -.- | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | stdin: what's the last comment you got? | 10:59 |
| stdin | "<apachelogger> debhelper depends on po-debconf and that depends on gettext" | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | cheguevara: please remove the line break in build-depends of kmldonkey | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | stdin: debian/control, line 6 -> you forgot to remove the versin number from kdelibs5-dev | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | Please attach a "This is the KDE 4 version from extragear." or something to the | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | description | 11:00 |
| cheguevara | apachelogger, kk | 11:01 |
| cheguevara | i am off to work, pm me if there's anything else | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | cheguevara: changelog date still wrong | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: can you check that debian/copyright is correct for kmldonkey | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | I'll build meanwhile | 11:01 |
| stdin | apachelogger: well there is no kde3 version, so I didn't think that was necessary | 11:01 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: okay | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | stdin: well, it's needed to ensure the user notes that this is a kde4 package ;-) | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | ye know, users don't wanna read ^_^ | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | cheguevara: btw, did you find out why kmldonkey only recommends mldonkey-server? | 11:08 |
| jpatrick | cheguevara: kmlplasma/* is not in debian/copyright? | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: why should it? | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | Sebastian Sauer has a general copyright and the files are GPL2+ | 11:10 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: so why is he listed elsewhere? | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: because there also muesli got a copyright :P | 11:11 |
| jpatrick | :P | 11:12 |
| jpatrick | copyright looks okay then | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | build and deps are ok as well | 11:13 |
| jpatrick | should I upload? | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | he didn't upload the fixes yet | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | though they are all unimportant ones | 11:14 |
| * apachelogger checks again | 11:14 | |
| jpatrick | I can edit the date in changelog | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: remove the line break in build-depends as well | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | everthing is okay | 11:16 |
| jpatrick | done | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | hrrhrr | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | cheguevara: thanks for your contribution :) | 11:24 |
| jpatrick | but don't stop there | 11:24 |
| * apachelogger thinks cheguevara totally targets becoming a MOTU ;-) | 11:25 | |
| txwikinger | Was libqt4-debug-dev replaced by some other package? | 11:56 |
| jpatrick | libqt4-debug | 11:57 |
| txwikinger | ok.. I thought so thanks | 11:58 |
| mhb | woohoo, just 25 days remaining and the horrible ad will go away! | 12:02 |
| mhb | also, I will meet a girl that both likes me and is totally into GNU/Linux. Groovy! It is good that the dream becomes reality. | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: they do exist. however, those who do exist think as you do, but s/girl/guy/ in most cases :) | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | 'tis a cruel world :P | 12:06 |
| mhb | The first group exists, no doubt about that. | 12:06 |
| mhb | Erm... | 12:07 |
| mhb | the girls that are into Linux exist | 12:07 |
| mhb | but the other group is an empty set, so it is kind of hard to find a non-empty intersection. | 12:07 |
| mhb | :o) | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | haha :) | 12:08 |
| _buz | for the people who use kwin_composite: do you use it on gutsy or hardy? does it crash x.org for you as well? | 12:09 |
| mhb | well I dont use kwin_composite or kwin4_composite exactly because of that. | 12:09 |
| mhb | it crashes. | 12:09 |
| _buz | do you see kwin or x.org crash? it seems that its x.org thats really crashing | 12:10 |
| _buz | if the window manager crashes, x wouldnt restart | 12:10 |
| mhb | well, I usually get some large white squares and it is totally slow so I have to restart X. | 12:12 |
| mhb | unless it reacts so slow that i have to power off the computer. | 12:12 |
| mhb | that happens here. | 12:12 |
| _buz | no usually mine either freezes or outright crashes x | 12:12 |
| _buz | i sometimes have to cold boot the machine because nothing reacts anymore | 12:13 |
| harolddong | What were the new kde4 packages that I just installed from the repos? | 12:52 |
| harolddong | Just updated /tweaked stuff? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: could you give back kdeaccessibility-kde4 kdeartwork-kde4 kdemultimedia-kde4 kdenetwork-kde4 kdepim-kde4 kdesdk-kde4 kdetoys-kde4 extragear-plasma | 13:08 |
| Riddell | and raise their priority | 13:08 |
| lnxkde | what does the new kde4 update? | 13:15 |
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| plexe | hello | 16:24 |
| plexe | i want to learn kde / qt 4 development | 16:24 |
| plexe | how easy is to set it up on kubuntu ? | 16:24 |
| cheguevara | re | 17:43 |
| mhb | im | 17:43 |
| cheguevara | whats up | 17:46 |
| mhb | kidding as always | 17:47 |
| mhb | re & im are the usual identifiers for real & imaginary parts of a complex number. | 17:47 |
| cheguevara | apachelogger, thx for sponsoring :P | 17:48 |
| cheguevara | mhb, heh :P | 17:48 |
| mhb | and you shouldn't really write "re" unless you want to say something or somebody is waiting for you. | 17:48 |
| mhb | we all know you're here if you answer the questions we might have. | 17:48 |
| mhb | cheguevara: it's not that you are a criminal or something, it's just a tiny part of the code of IRC. | 17:49 |
| cheguevara | as an irc network admin I am quiet familiar with IRC :P | 17:49 |
| mhb | cheguevara: and yet you break the code of it... fascinating. | 17:51 |
| cheguevara | stdin, thanks for fixing kdebase-workspace (again) and sorry for that typo | 17:53 |
| cheguevara | worst thing is that went upstream :( | 17:54 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, you around? | 18:01 |
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| Lure | mhb: you also have problem with brightness keys? | 18:22 |
| mhb | still, yes. | 18:27 |
| Lure | mhb: do you have gutsy on it? New packages to test are in my ppa... | 18:30 |
| Lure | mhb: it look like they did not work due to stupid typo :-( | 18:30 |
| mhb | no, I'm hardy now. | 18:31 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: hi | 18:32 |
| Lure | mhb: will prepare hardy packages when I get at least one confirmation from gutsy | 18:32 |
| Lure | Riddell: do you know how QLibrary works for loading dynamic libraries? | 18:33 |
| Riddell | Lure: can't say I do | 18:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: k9copy needs -dev packages to properly load libGL.so.1 | 18:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: I do not think it is normal to depend on -dev package... | 18:34 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, hey, do you think you can get ubuntu7 of kdebase-workspace into archives | 18:34 |
| Lure | Riddell: problem is that -dev installs symbolic link from libGL.so to libGL.so.1 - w/o that, k9copy crashes | 18:34 |
| cheguevara | debdiff by stdin is at #176135 | 18:34 |
| cheguevara | i've already got the change upstream | 18:35 |
| Riddell | Lure: strace the app, it may well need the .so or the .la | 18:36 |
| Lure | Riddell: but this is really bad... | 18:36 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: umm, where is it? | 18:36 |
| Riddell | Lure: if so you can probably patch the app to load a paticular version, that's what we did the qt4 and libssl | 18:37 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10922728/kdebase-workspace_3.97.0-1ubuntu7.debdiff | 18:42 |
| Lure | Riddell: yep, versioned request for "GL.so.1" | 18:58 |
| Lure | works | 18:58 |
| Lure | Riddell: will talk with upstream to consider changing this for next version | 18:59 |
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| fdoving | anyone else experience hotkey issues with kde4 rc2? | 19:42 |
| _buz | yeah | 19:42 |
| _buz | most hotkeys for kwin didnt work | 19:42 |
| _buz | thought it was something about my config so didnt bother looking into it further | 19:43 |
| fdoving | k. good, then it's not just me. | 19:43 |
| _buz | interestingly, they DO work if you run kwin-kde4 in kde3 | 19:43 |
| fdoving | hum.. i also need to figure out how to disable the url/e-mail mouse-over effects in konsole. | 19:44 |
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| nosrednaekim | yeah... annoying | 20:04 |
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| cheguevara | Riddell, you still around | 22:01 |
| Riddell | hi cheguevara | 22:01 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, was gonna package kcoloredit, but no COPYING file again, do you know who I can bug on irc | 22:02 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: toma is the extragear man | 22:02 |
| Riddell | I suppose I could just commit one | 22:02 |
| cheguevara | that would be great :) | 22:03 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, did you see the debdiff btw? | 22:03 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: don't think I did | 22:04 |
| cheguevara | do you want the link again? | 22:05 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: ok | 22:05 |
| cheguevara | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10922728/kdebase-workspace_3.97.0-1ubuntu7.debdiff | 22:06 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: added COPYING to kcoloredit | 22:07 |
| cheguevara | thanks Riddell | 22:07 |
| iRon | Riddell: mounting for devices not listed in /etc/fstab is done ;-) now i'm working on proper unmounting. | 22:11 |
| nosrednaekim | iRon: what are you doing? | 22:12 |
| * Lure_ is happy so many new contributors | 22:12 | |
| iRon | nosrednaekim: "User Hard Disk Mounting" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuHardyCatchup | 22:13 |
| Riddell | iRon: ooh ooh ooh | 22:13 |
| Lure_ | nosrednaekim: btw, I did not forget about you powermanager improvement, I just did not look into guidance for hardy yet (will probably do over holidays) | 22:13 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: uploaded kdebase-workspace | 22:13 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure_: yeah... its ok, I understand :D | 22:13 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, nice, thanks, sorry for the mess up again | 22:13 |
| iRon | Riddell: do i need to display full command in kdesudo dialog? or just provide user-friednly message? something line "Admin privileges required for..." | 22:17 |
| iRon | *like | 22:17 |
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| cheguevara | Riddell, kdesdk-kde4_3.97.0-0ubuntu2 doesn't seem to build btw | 22:21 |
| nosrednaekim | hmm, how hard is it to write a kde3 control center module in pyqt4? | 22:22 |
| nosrednaekim | cheguevara: it seems to have dependency problems, kate won't start because its missing some library | 22:22 |
| cheguevara | i got | 22:22 |
| cheguevara | CMake Error: This project requires some variables to be set, | 22:22 |
| cheguevara | and cmake can not find them. | 22:22 |
| cheguevara | Please set the following variables: | 22:22 |
| cheguevara | KICKER_WORKSPACE_LIBRARY | 22:22 |
| * nosrednaekim is looking at the compiz config control center module | 22:22 | |
| Riddell | iRon: I don't think kdesudo does user friendly messages | 22:23 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: not possible | 22:23 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: thats seems to be what the spec is saying. | 22:23 |
| iRon | Riddell: it does.. kdesudo --caption "Caption" --comment "Dialog text" -d ... | 22:24 |
| nosrednaekim | in KubuntuHardyCatchup#Compiz | 22:24 |
| Riddell | iRon: ah well, there you go then :) | 22:24 |
| iRon | Riddell: ok | 22:24 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: oh it would need to be a standalone app for KDE 3. the alternative is to write it in pyKDE 3 which is daft at this stange as it would need to be re-written soon | 22:25 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: well, I am quite willing to try to write it in pyqt4, there are compiz python bindings, right? | 22:26 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: I don't know if there's compiz python bindings | 22:26 |
| nosrednaekim | ahh... yep there are.... | 22:27 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: but mostly it's just setting a value somewhere so a login script sets KDEWM to the right value | 22:27 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: and setting some compiz settings, which are just written in .ini style | 22:28 |
| nosrednaekim | pretty easy then?cool, I see what I can do over Christmas .... | 22:28 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: do ping mhb about that, he had a UI mockup | 22:29 |
| jjesse | afternoon | 22:29 |
| fdoving | is there an ark replacement for kde4? | 22:29 |
| Riddell | ark is in KDE 4 I'm pretty sure | 22:29 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: ok,I will. | 22:29 |
| nosrednaekim | fdoving: there is the tar:/kio slave | 22:29 |
| fdoving | Riddell: not in the lp ppa as far as i can tell. | 22:30 |
| fdoving | nosrednaekim: it's not that good at .rar and .zip :) | 22:30 |
| Riddell | fdoving: fdoving it's in kdeutils | 22:30 |
| Riddell | hi jjesse | 22:30 |
| nosrednaekim | fdoving: hmm i'll check | 22:31 |
| nosrednaekim | fdoving: wors fine on zips | 22:31 |
| nosrednaekim | *works | 22:32 |
| nosrednaekim | fdoving: oh... thats the "zip" kio-slave I guess. | 22:32 |
| fdoving | then unlucky with my .rars. | 22:32 |
| fdoving | + i'm | 22:32 |
| nosrednaekim | heh | 22:32 |
| cheguevara | i remember reading somewhere kde 4's ark won't have rar support | 22:35 |
| jjesse | hello Riddell any in-laws showing up? | 22:35 |
| cheguevara | because the author couldn't get it done before feature freeze | 22:35 |
| Riddell | jjesse: not today thankfully | 22:36 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: so what settings should this app have? like desktop size,shadows, and the fade animation? just basic stuff? | 22:36 |
| jjesse | :) | 22:37 |
| fdoving | ouch, konsole4 does not have the 'drop-url-popup-menu' anymore. | 22:37 |
| fdoving | need to type wget myself, or kfmclient copy :| | 22:37 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: have you seen the gnome one? | 22:38 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: just a very simple app, off, on basic, on bling | 22:38 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: oh it also needs to install it (probably using adept-batch) | 22:38 |
| * mhb 's here if anyone needs him. | 22:38 | |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: no I haven't... I try to stay away from the brown side of the fence | 22:38 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: you have a UI mockup for the compiz-manager? | 22:39 |
| mhb | you mean a desktop effects for KDE? | 22:39 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: http://ramkumarshankar.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gutsy-appearance.png | 22:39 |
| Riddell | I don't think that the final one they have but it's close | 22:40 |
| nosrednaekim | ok | 22:40 |
| cheguevara | does compiz's kde window manager work nicely yet | 22:40 |
| mhb | I've got more than that. | 22:40 |
| mhb | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/guidance/desktop-effects-kde | 22:40 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: not enough options there.... too Gnomish ;) | 22:42 |
| cheguevara | heh | 22:42 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: check the code out, and work on it! | 22:43 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: cool :D | 22:43 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: the UI is almost complete, and there's a Qt4 and KDE3 frontend. | 22:43 |
| nosrednaekim | wow... you work fast | 22:44 |
| nosrednaekim | ok, this is a crazy idea... is it possible to use kwin4 in kde3? | 22:47 |
| nosrednaekim | and bypass compiz all-togther? | 22:47 |
| Riddell | mhb: does it have any functionality? | 22:47 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, there's a po folder in kcoloredit shouldn't all translations be in l10n-kde4 | 22:48 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: extragear apps will include their own translations | 22:49 |
| cheguevara | oh right | 22:50 |
| mhb | Riddell: unfortunately not. | 22:50 |
| mhb | someone has to write the config-writing part. | 22:50 |
| mhb | and the config-detection ... well the hard stuff. | 22:50 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: you did the fun part! :D | 22:51 |
| mhb | unfortunately. | 22:51 |
| nosrednaekim | I don't hear any remorse.. | 22:52 |
| nosrednaekim | i'll look into it :D | 22:52 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, is there anything special that needs to be done in debian/rules for the translations in this case or with cdbs handle it | 22:57 |
| Riddell | cheguevara: the normal compile will handle it | 22:58 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, cool thanks | 22:58 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: ok, so all the hard stuff gets called from enable and disable? aren't there going to be different level? | 23:01 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: not sure what you mean ... | 23:03 |
| mhb | but feel free to do whatever you want | 23:03 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: ok | 23:04 |
| mhb | hmm, you're not able to commit, are you. | 23:05 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: nope, and what I was asking didn't make any sense.... I just read it again and I was confused :D | 23:06 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: I suppose I could always branch it | 23:06 |
| mhb | right. | 23:07 |
| ardchoille | Hmm.. I'm be interested in a screenshot of dolphin running in kde4. I hear the dolphin in kde4 is much different than dolphin in gutsy | 23:07 |
| nosrednaekim | ardchoille: good take a look at the KDE4-RC2 release announcement | 23:08 |
| nosrednaekim | *go | 23:08 |
| ardchoille | nosrednaekim: Thanks | 23:10 |
| ardchoille | I'll have to wait until I buy some blacnk cd's, tho | 23:10 |
| nosrednaekim | ardchoille: no, they have pictures on it :D | 23:10 |
| nosrednaekim | ardchoille: if you need a more specific picture I can probably take one. | 23:10 |
| ardchoille | nosrednaekim: The only thing I see is a link to download the kde4 livecd | 23:11 |
| ardchoille | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php | 23:11 |
| nosrednaekim | ardchoille:I meant the offical kde one, on kde.org | 23:11 |
| ardchoille | Unless you are talking about a different release announcement | 23:11 |
| ardchoille | Ah, ok | 23:11 |
| ardchoille | Wow, those guys work fast: 11th December 2007 - KDE 4.0 Release Candidate 12 Released | 23:12 |
| ardchoille | rc12 has been released :) | 23:12 |
| nosrednaekim | heh | 23:12 |
| nosrednaekim | someone has a eeepc and some big hands.. | 23:12 |
| nosrednaekim | XD | 23:12 |
| ardchoille | hehe | 23:12 |
| cheguevara | eeepc uses kde 3.4.2 | 23:14 |
| cheguevara | couldn't they use 3.5... | 23:14 |
| ardchoille | Wow, systemsettings seems to have been improved as well | 23:15 |
| ardchoille | Back in a bit. Time to image my partitions. | 23:18 |
| iRon | Riddell: finished with unmounting.. :) | 23:45 |
| Riddell | iRon: crivvens | 23:51 |
| iRon | :) i'll refactor code a bit, and will send you a patch. | 23:53 |
| Riddell | iRon: great | 23:54 |
| * Riddell impressed by the number of torrent sites carrying the kde 4 cd | 23:57 | |
| nosrednaekim | our kde4 CD? | 23:58 |
| cheguevara | right kcoloredit uploaded to revu | 23:59 |
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