[00:02] <Mez> nalioth, if you're still around, could you add me on the ops list for #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[00:23] <gouki> Well, I'm about to go live with the thing. If anyone wants to check the list of channels: ubuntuircstats.org/list.txt
[00:23] <gouki> I'll be back in a few!
[00:43] <ubotu> stdin called the ops in #ubuntu (AlgorthmicContro dangerous command)
[00:45] <elkbuntu> he's doing other channels now too
[00:46] <elkbuntu> he hit up u-w
[01:46] <PriceChild> We should organise a Council meeting sometime.
[01:46] <PriceChild> Night
[01:49] <LjL> better later than sooner
[01:52] <somerville32> lol @ LjL
[03:31] <ubotu> fignew called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[03:34] <nalioth> nixternal: klined
[03:34] <nixternal> thanks
[03:34] <nixternal> he was doing the same garbage last night
[03:34] <nalioth> he's been doing the same thing for weeks
[03:34] <nalioth> different nick
[04:34] <ubotu> kahrytan called the ops in #ubuntu (skyfalcon866)
[04:34] <ubotu> skyfalcon866 called the ops in #ubuntu (kahrytan)
[04:35] <ardchoille> hehehe
[04:35] <ardchoille> erm, sorry, ut that's a bit humerous
[04:36] <ubotu> skyfalcon866 called the ops in #ubuntu+1 (pici)
[04:38] <ubotu> skyfalcon866 called the ops in #ubuntu+1 (ubotu)
[04:38] <nixternal> fark!#@#
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> hrm?
[04:38] <nixternal> what happened to ops in +1
[04:38] <Pici> I dont have access there.
[04:38] <nixternal> someone ban that idiot
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: who / why ?
[04:38] <nixternal> akyfalcon866
[04:39] <nixternal> why: because he is an idiot
[04:39] <Pici> I just removed them from #ubuntu
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> quick log summary perhaps?
[04:39] <nixternal> bah
[04:39] <Pici> 23:31:58 <skyfalcon866> ubuntu is a fresh pile of monkey poop
[04:39] <Pici> 23:32:15 <Dr_willis> skyfalcon866,  demand a refund then.
[04:39] <Pici> 23:33:10 <skyfalcon866> ubuntu is a fresh pile of monkey poop
[04:39] <Pici> 23:33:46 <skyfalcon866> Ubuntu is one of them simple distros
[04:39] <Pici> 23:33:56 <kahrytan> !op | skyfalcon866
[04:39] <Pici> Then he !opsed at kahrytan, at which point I banned him.
[04:40] <vorian> lol
[04:41] <nixternal> wtfucklafjde084308432
[04:41] <nixternal> don't sit there and stair at the f'n troll
[04:41] <vorian> one of them simple ones
[04:41] <nixternal> stare too
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: Sorry - fresh install - had to go find the op script :S
[04:41] <nixternal> hahahaha
[04:41] <nixternal> I used to, or thought I used to, have ops in there
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> Which incidentally is still on the backup on the external hard drive
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> I don't know why you wouldn't...
[04:42] <nixternal> lol... /abk
[04:42] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: There's an ops script?
[04:42] <nixternal> /abk
[04:42] <nixternal> hahaha
[04:42] <nixternal> irssi screaming - YOU DON"T HAVE ABK!!!
[04:42] <Pici> I use a bunch of irssi aliases
[04:42] <ardchoille> Oh, auto_bleh.pl
[04:42] <nixternal> ya
[04:42] <ardchoille> love that script
[04:42] <nixternal> it is the easiest
[04:42] <vorian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams/Ircops for xchat....
[04:43] <ardchoille> thank you nixternal (wrt #kubuntu)
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: yeah, a slightly customized version of bleh is what I use.
[04:43] <nixternal> I knew he would be doing that
[04:43] <Pici> atopance (sp) posted a bunch of aliases on his blog, from which I slightly modified for myself on irssi.
[04:43] <nixternal> and then he messages me with "I'm done"
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> Pici: pon
[04:44] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: I got my version from tomaw.net
[04:44] <no0tic> Pici, url please :)
[04:44] <ardchoille> nixternal: Yes, he *is* done, lol
[04:44] <nixternal> exactly what I told him :)
[04:44] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:44] <nixternal> I said "yes you are, have a nice day"
[04:44] <vorian> ah, atoponce wrote it based off seveas' chanserv.py script
[04:45] <Pici> no0tic:  http://www.pthree.org/2007/07/11/irssi-chanserv-and-nickserv-helper-aliases/
[04:45] <ardchoille> Pici: Thanks
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: I got mine from Seveas, who had gotten it from someone else and added some bits, and then I added some bits.
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> methinks auto_bleh should have some bzr repositories
[04:46] <ardchoille> I agree
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> I made it add anyone I removed/banned to my hilight list by hostmask.  Can be pretty handy in recognizing people.
[04:47] <nixternal> totally, and it needs to be updated so it doesn't spit all of that info out at you
[04:47] <ardchoille> Nice
[04:47] <nixternal> it floods a screen when you ban/kick someone
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> true
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> I'd imagine that's as simple as commenting out some print statements
[04:51] <nixternal> ya, but looking at perl is like looking at myself in the mirror..one huge mess :)
[04:55] <crdlb> lovely bit of spam from LCh in #ubuntu ...
[04:55] <no0tic> where can I find auto_bleh.pl?
[04:56] <nalioth> no0tic: Uncle Google will show you
[04:58] <no0tic> nalioth, I found this http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/auto_bleh.pl_   didn't find the "official" page if exists
[04:58] <no0tic> nalioth, alsa found a tomaw page on this
[04:58] <ardchoille> no0tic: I use tomaw's version
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> no0tic: no idea - I've only seen it transferred by DCC and the like :P
[04:59] <no0tic> and there's no google for dcc transfers :)
[05:00] <no0tic> ah, http://ircarc.com/network/freenode/   <--- another logging bots site..
[05:02] <crdlb> k-lined long ago :)
[05:03] <no0tic> fine :)
[05:20] <no0tic> lol a little bit of doc or comments in the script would help :)
[05:22] <nalioth> no0tic: are you busy?
[05:23] <no0tic> nalioth, no, I'm trying to understand every command of auto_bleh.pl
[05:23] <no0tic> nalioth, ok, then I will document it..
[05:24] <nalioth> no0tic: the server sent you a message
[05:24] <no0tic> 16/12 06:21:43 [freenode] -!- you: No such nick/channel
[05:25] <no0tic> that?
[06:16] <spr0k3t> test please
[06:18] <nalioth> have you followed the instructions, spr0k3t ?
[06:22] <spr0k3t> I went back to my own network... I had to use a neighbors for a while.
[06:22] <spr0k3t> I know my router/network is good.
[06:22] <nalioth> ok
[06:23] <nalioth> ok, you can rejoin #ubuntu now (and welcome back home)   :D
[06:24] <spr0k3t> yeah, no kidding... power is back on.  thank god the battery backup I have lasted me for longer than a day.
[06:24] <spr0k3t> waveroos
[09:18] <ubotu> In ubotu, four-o-four said: This is an autoreply: I am not currently available, please leave your message.I'll get back at you as soon as possible.
[09:18] <jpatrick> hmm..
[09:19] <Gary> thats what my ansaphone says
[10:07] <ubotu> soldats called the ops in #ubuntu ([MxPm]Synz-Nein)
[10:08] <ubotu> soldats called the ops in #ubuntu ([MxPm]Synz-Nein)
[10:09] <Gary> damnit, we need more ops in #ubuntu
[10:09] <no0tic> lol :)
[10:11] <Gary> whats the ubuntu koren support channel?
[10:12] <ubotu> Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[10:13] <Gary> thanks tomaw
[10:13] <tomaw> np
[10:14] <tomaw> Do you have a korean support channel at all?
[10:15] <Gary> that was not korean, afaik
[10:15] <tomaw> He's said it is to me and some other staff
[10:15] <Gary> but yeah, #ubuntu-ko
[10:16] <ubotu> In ubotu, four-o-fou1 said: This is an autoreply: I am not currently available, please leave your message.I'll get back at you as soon as possible.
[10:16] <jpatrick> again?
[10:16] <no0tic> tomaw, I saw you use auto_bleh.pl, does it ban other stuff other than hostname?
[10:17] <tomaw> nope, it only does hostnames currently
[10:18] <no0tic> afyk is there anything like that for weechat?
[10:18] <no0tic> *afayk
[10:22] <tomaw> I've not really looked at weechat too much
[10:22] <tomaw> It has lots of scripting support though, so it would hopefully not be too difficult to create
[10:24] <no0tic> I'm trying to spread the use of auto_bleh to the others -it ops, but few use irssi..
[10:24] <tomaw> Ah :)
[10:24] <tomaw> You could ask in #weechat, they seem quite friendly people
[10:24] <Gary> chanserv.py works well for xchat
[10:25] <no0tic> tomaw, thanks :)
[10:26] <ubotu> In ubotu, four-o-fou1 said: This is an autoreply: I am not currently available, please leave your message.I'll get back at you as soon as possible.
[10:27] <no0tic> 3
[10:28] <Gary> wow, so much idle chatter in #ubuntu this morning
[10:34] <wols> is anyone awak?
[10:35] <wols> snmpee is trolling in #ubuntu
[10:35] <wols> tomaw: are you awake still maybe?
[10:35] <tomaw> I am
[10:37] <wols> can you again police ubuntu and rid them of aegis and snmpee?
[10:37] <wols> very much a rules digression there
[10:38] <tomaw> I can take a look, certainly
[10:40] <tomaw> pesky nick completion
[10:44]  * Dave2 hands tomaw a mind-reading tab key
[10:45] <tomaw> :D
[10:45] <Dave2> I'm sure it'll come in handy.
[10:45] <no0tic> wrong knockout? :)
[10:47] <tomaw> I only used +q, so it didn't really matter too much
[10:55] <ardchoille> If more help is needed in #ubuntu, I'll gladly help out if someone adds me to the access list for that channel.
[10:57]  * Hobbsee joins it, to watch
[10:58] <tomaw> I banned [MxPm]Synz-Nein and removed him from the channel
[10:59] <tomaw> He's not exactly being polite to me in private and I can believe that he's sending users crap when they talk
[10:59] <tomaw> Anyway, that's me gone for a bit.  Enjoy :)
[11:00] <Gary> thanks tomaw
[11:00] <jussi01> hiya all
[11:00] <ardchoille> hi jussi01
[11:00] <jussi01> hiya ardchoille
[11:01] <jussi01> who are the bot gurus among us?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> mmmm
[11:03] <Hobbsee> depends on the def'n of a bot guru
[11:03] <jussi01> just my bot is being naughty... keeps deciding to join #ubuntu and #kubuntu if I start her. sigh... dunno how to fix it and Im sure nobody wants it in there... :(
[11:04] <Hobbsee> jussi01: what bot?
[11:05] <jussi01> Hobbsee: just a private one of my own. I used it once as a backup for ubotu and now it wont not join. (bot name she_said)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> jussi01: yeah, but what is it/
[11:05] <Hobbsee> what type of bot?
[11:05] <jussi01> supybot
[11:06] <jussi01> ubotu clone basically.
[11:06] <Hobbsee> it should be in the .conf file that you specified, then
[11:06] <stdin> in "supybot.networks.[NetworkName].channels: ..."
[11:06] <jussi01> Hobbsee: yeah, I played with that, but it didnt seem to do anything.
[11:06] <Hobbsee> while the bot is not running (where it will hose your changes if it is), remove the cahnnels from the autojoin
[11:06]  * jussi01 goes to look
[11:07] <jussi01> see, i have: supybot.networks: freenode
[11:07] <jussi01> thats it
[11:08] <Hobbsee> yup
[11:08] <Hobbsee> which is correct
[11:08] <Hobbsee> but it's got channels listed there
[11:08] <Hobbsee> did you have the bot running while you were playing?
[11:08] <jussi01> ahhh, found it now.
[11:08] <stdin> you can edit it with "@config supybot.networks.freenode.channels: #channels #you #want" if it's running (where '@' is the character it responds to)
[11:09] <jussi01> ok, all sorted! :)
[11:09] <jussi01> thanks Hobbsee stdin
[11:14] <Hobbsee> you're welcome
[11:16] <jussi01> :)
[16:06] <PriceChild>  Bandwidth Down/Up(kbps) 	 2356 / 144
[16:06] <PriceChild> That's madness
[16:18] <somerville32> PriceChild, how so?
[16:19] <wols> somerville32: so low, you go mad over it?
[16:20] <somerville32> I'm downgrading to 1mbs/128kbs
[16:20] <somerville32> Is it that horrible?
[16:20] <somerville32> I currently have 7mbs down/256kb up
[16:21] <kbrooks> somerville32, wow, that's ~7 seconds for a 1GB file
[16:21] <kbrooks> but thats a estimate
[16:22] <somerville32> You mean for a 100mb file?
[16:22] <kbrooks> somerville32, yes, thats right, i was wrong ;-)
[16:22] <Myrtti> I've got 512/ something
[16:22] <Myrtti> I'm happy as can be
[16:22] <Myrtti> mobile Internet <3
[16:23] <jussi01> i have 5/3 atm, until I get my sorry butt down to the place and order my 10/10
[16:23]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti - spring is good!!
[16:24] <Myrtti> you mean the theme?
[16:24] <Myrtti> just emailed them a new version
[16:24] <jussi01> Myrtti: yep!
[16:24] <Myrtti> and a fresh new screenshot
[16:24] <jussi01> Myrtti: Im off to check it out.. :)
[16:24] <Myrtti> and a brand new theme too
[16:24] <Myrtti> I wonder how long it'll take them to actually update it to the site ;-)
[16:26] <jussi01> Myrtti: any chance of an email with it coming my way?
[16:29] <Myrtti> take a catch, trying to send it as dcc
[16:29] <Myrtti> :-P
[16:31] <jussi01> hmmm, how do i accept that in irssi...??
[16:32] <Myrtti> /dcc get <nick>
[16:32] <jussi01> :)
[16:33] <Myrtti> another one coming
[16:33] <jussi01> thanks!
[16:37] <Myrtti> basically the new one is like the old, but it acts more nicely if you have a dark background color
[16:37] <jussi01> ahhh, nice
[16:37] <Myrtti> I think I also have tweaked the hilights someway
[16:37] <jussi01> highlight me?
[16:37] <Myrtti> jussi01: are you positive?
[16:38] <jussi01> yes!! I like it!
[16:38] <Myrtti> /me doesn't like hilighting people in vain
[16:38] <Myrtti> /me doesn't like hilighting people in vain, jussi01
[16:38] <Myrtti> the hilight with not b0rked /me is broken still
[16:38] <Myrtti> I should have a look at that
[16:39] <jussi01> hmmm, when you higlight like the second time, it comes up with: RedMyrtti
[16:39] <jussi01> ??
[16:39] <Myrtti> it does?
[16:39] <Myrtti> wow
[16:39] <Myrtti> which one?
[16:40] <jussi01> yeah...
 /me doesn't like hilighting people in vain, jussi01
[16:40] <Myrtti> spring or dark_winter?
[16:40] <jussi01> spring
[16:40] <Myrtti> funny, doesn't do that with me
[16:40] <Myrtti> /me pokes it more
[16:41] <jussi01> hmmm, maybe its my konsole doing funny stuff..
[16:41] <jussi01> Ill try xterm... brb
[16:45] <jussi01> gah, that was horrible
[17:31] <Myrtti> is the flashplugin still b0rken?
[17:34] <LjL> people complain about it
[17:34] <LjL> but it's been removed from the topic
[17:35] <LjL> i suppose whoever removed it had their reasons
[17:38] <jussi01> it should be fixed
[17:38] <jussi01> where is ikonia ?
[17:39] <LjL> hi assilva, can we help you?
[17:40] <assilva> LjL, pla
[17:40] <assilva> LjL, nao thanks
[17:40] <LjL> assilva, uhm, then may i know why you joined?
[17:40] <assilva> LjL, obrigado eu so entrei para conhecer
[17:41] <jussi01> wha??
[17:42] <no0tic> thanks, I joined to know
[17:42] <LjL> jussi01: he said thanks i just joined out of curiosity
[17:42] <jussi01> ahhh, thank you :)
[17:49] <PriceChild> somerville32, because I spend about 40 weeks of the year on 18/2.5 M
[17:50] <somerville32> : O
[17:50]  * somerville32 dies.
[17:50]  * PriceChild grins
[17:51]  * jussi01 steals PriceChild's bandwidth...
[17:52] <Myrtti> PriceChild: with all due respect and from the bottom of my heart with all my love: shuddup.
[17:52] <Myrtti> <3
[17:52] <PriceChild> I betcha wanna kill the dong hey?
[17:53] <jussi01> the dongs connection is very enviable.... Lynch him!!!
[17:54]  * PriceChild runs off whilst you're all distracted
[17:54] <somerville32> what does jdong have?
[17:55] <PriceChild> somerville32, he's at MIT ;)
[17:55] <PriceChild> well not now, tis back for hols
[17:55] <PriceChild> Myrtti, flashpluggin is fixed in -proposed I think.
[17:55] <PriceChild> *plugin
[17:56] <somerville32> PriceChild, Unless you use konq
[17:57] <somerville32> It kills konq
[18:05] <tonyyarusso> What happened to it btw?
[18:06] <somerville32> md5sum mismatch
[18:06] <somerville32> (ie. new version of Flash)
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> lokito is insulting us
[18:14] <somerville32> Jack_Sparrow, where?
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> in ubuntu
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> in spanish
[18:17] <jdong> tonyyarusso: macromedia has a single install_flash_9.tar.gz type file that may change versions, hence md5sums, as Adobe puts out new versions
[18:17] <jdong> tonyyarusso: and the "archived" versions are in a 60MB tarball with every version released in the past decade
[18:17] <jdong> retarded upstream syndrome, in other words :)
[18:17] <tonyyarusso> jdong: aaah
[19:06] <PriceChild> Grr I guess that was a server death? None of my other connections reset so hoping its not just me
[19:06] <LjL> PriceChild: it's just you
[19:06] <PriceChild> Grrr what's going on with me then :/
[19:07] <Gary> you is br0ken
[19:29] <nalioth> hi sysdef
[19:29] <sysdef> hi nalioth
[19:30] <sysdef> i need to test the performance of a servicebot for #ubuntu-de* and i need a hightraffic channel. so i want to ask for permission to join #ubuntu and i want a quiet for it. is there a way?
[19:31] <nalioth> sysdef: we can quiet it alright, we just want to know that it's not gonna be otw disruptive
[19:32] <ompaul> sysdef, what are its names?
[19:32] <sysdef> the bot will just join, stay there for a while for masurement and part. not spamming or public loggin of course
[19:32] <sysdef> ompaul: xbot
[19:32] <sysdef> measure*
[19:32] <ompaul> nalioth, you want to do it
[19:33] <nalioth> ompaul: i just wanted everyone to know about it
[19:33] <ompaul> as they should ;-)
[19:33] <sysdef> ompaul: i actually do a rewrite for shetlandpony, the servicebot of #ubuntu-de*
[19:33] <ompaul> its is bonned
[19:34] <ompaul> muted even
[19:34] <nalioth> ahh, ok
[19:34] <nalioth> ompaul: it's not always gonna be identified
[19:34] <ompaul> nalioth, true but atm it will be
[19:34] <sysdef> thanks a lot. i'll tell when the tests are over 8)
[19:34] <ompaul> nalioth, if I see it not ided then I'll give it a lash
[19:35] <nalioth> ompaul: look at #ubuntu scrollback
[19:36] <ompaul> nalioth, to be sure to be sure :)
[19:37] <LjL> ban the ident
[19:37] <LjL> (mute that is)
[19:37] <ompaul> LjL, it is now
[19:47] <sysdef> first test was nice. old engine need about 2 sec. to proceed 50 channel user. the new one need >4 sec. for 1270 user
[19:48] <tonyyarusso> sysdef: engine of what now?
[19:48] <tonyyarusso> oh, nvm  /me reads scrollback
[19:48] <sysdef> 0)
[19:49] <sysdef> i'll stay in #ubuntu-irc and poke when the test over 8)
[19:50] <ompaul> Mez, got connection problems?
[19:50] <ompaul> heads up
[19:50] <ompaul>  
[19:51] <PriceChild> Who gave him fish?!
[19:51] <ompaul> I just ban forwarded this nick: Sinobeus aka Sinobeus aka Dmitrys aka W0lD  to name but a few
[19:51] <PriceChild> That's mine :(
[19:51] <ompaul> nickspam was the reason
[19:53] <ompaul> can't comment it yet
[19:54] <Mez> ompaul, bip proxy sucks
[19:54] <ompaul> Mez, suggest direct connection
[19:55] <Mez> ompaul, it just sucks
[19:55]  * tonyyarusso wonders whether other Ubunteros one too many mailing lists would find the results of his e-mail reorg. helpful
[19:56] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, mail is a pain if you can help document and get some quite opinions and then consider
[19:57] <Mez> for F***K sake
[19:57] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: sure.  Mostly it's been transforming what was essentially an one-layer "all things floss" folder into multiple levels of logical sense
[19:57] <ompaul> Mez, connect directly and id to the server
[19:58] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, it is the only way to survive
[19:58] <ompaul> :)
[19:58] <Mez> ompaul, I'm commected directly now
[19:58] <ompaul> did it years ago
[19:58] <tonyyarusso> That and filters to go along with them. - also essential.
[19:58] <ompaul> Mez, now /msg nickserv etc
[19:58] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, procmail evolution thunderbird
[19:58] <tonyyarusso> I had things like Ubuntu/Lists/sounder before, but Ubuntu/Lists has like 70 things in it, not arranged below that level prior to this week.
[19:59] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: procmail?
[19:59] <Mez> ompaul, I'm not that much of an idiot - lol - just too used to being auto-id'd
[19:59] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, google is your friend -
[19:59] <ompaul> Mez, you may not have noticed that you had not ided that was all
[19:59] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I'm semi-familiar with what it is, I think, but I'm not sure what it does for me.
[19:59] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, ;-)
[20:00] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, smart host rules and grabs and delivers to such an infrastructure
[20:00] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: One thing I _really_ want to do is strip off the annoying "[marketing]" and such bits from subject lines so I can read the real subject.  Can procmail do that?  (IMAP, btw)
[20:00] <ompaul> procmail could help you
[20:01] <tonyyarusso> cool
[20:01] <ompaul> could but your scripting will be smarter
[20:01] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, that is interesting how do you follow threads then
[20:02] <kbrooks> um, ompaul
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I already know that it's from the marketing mailing list from the Reply-To line - I don't need redundant information.
[20:02] <kbrooks> ompaul, utty is asking "anyone know a key gen for hsfmodem to enable full speed"
[20:02] <kbrooks> ompaul, in #ubuntu
[20:03] <tonyyarusso> bah
[20:03] <ompaul> kbrooks,  no idea
[20:03]  * tonyyarusso will take that one.
[20:03] <ompaul> is that a piracy issue
[20:03] <ompaul> or something
[20:03] <kbrooks> ompaul, "key gen"... illegal
[20:03] <kbrooks> yes a piracy issue it seems
[20:03] <ompaul> thanks
[20:04] <kbrooks> ompaul, np
[20:05] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: It is, yes.
[20:05]  * tonyyarusso has an hsfmodem as well, and a purchased key
[20:06] <tonyyarusso> They offer a trial version so people can check that they've actually found the right driver for their modem, but if it works, it's limited to 11 kbps instead of 53.  For $19.99 you get an enabling code to up it to full speed.
[20:06] <kbrooks> tonyyarusso, well, i marked that question as offtopic :)
[20:07] <tonyyarusso> Aside from asking other people to share their keys, you should also be aware that their are instructions floating through the tubes for doing it without a key by modifying a bit in a hex editor, which I haven't tried, but from what I've seen has like a 50/50 success (probably depending on version differences)
[20:10] <kbrooks> tonyyarusso, Thank you for that.
[20:10] <tonyyarusso> np
[20:10] <tonyyarusso> At least I can put that week of my life I lost learning about winmodems to some good use...
[20:11] <kbrooks> tonyyarusso, hehe :-)
[20:38] <PriceChild> nalioth, elkbuntu, LjL, Thoughts on ubuntu/bot cloak for ubuntustats?
[20:38] <PriceChild> ( http://ubuntuircstats.org )
[20:38] <nalioth> do we want it being 'official' ?
[20:40] <PriceChild> I'm not sure........? :)
[20:40] <tonyyarusso> It would be nice for it to gain that status, but I'm not sure about it at the moment, as I haven't followed recent developments on that front.
[20:40]  * tonyyarusso used to talk to the guy running it regularly, hasn't in months.
[20:40] <nalioth> he's been away for months
[20:41] <ompaul> http://www.lyricsandsongs.com/song/589010.html
[20:41] <ompaul> currently on my player
[20:43] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Where would I find that song?
[20:45] <LjL> PriceChild: i'd like to see a link to the source code used on the web page
[20:46] <PriceChild> gouki, ^
[20:46] <gouki> Sure
[20:46] <gouki> And BTW, hi tonyyarusso :)
[20:46] <gouki> LjL: The .html pages you see with the statistics are created by a .c script, called irssistats.
[20:47] <LjL> gouki: yes, i knew that was the case, but i think it would be nice if it were stated, at least as a tribute to the developers of irssistats
[20:47] <tonyyarusso> oh hey gouki
[20:48] <gouki> LjL: It is stated. On the page of every channel statistics
[20:49] <gouki> (scroll to the bottom of the page)
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> what is the URL these days?  (And why can't I find it out easily?)
[20:50] <LjL> uhm ok, still wouldn't mind a mention on the main page, but i guess it's ok anyway
[20:51] <LjL> PriceChild: i'm fine with a cloak
[20:51] <gouki> tonyyarusso: It has a second-level domain now (ubuntuircstats.org)
[20:51] <gouki> I still haven't blogged or told anyone about it, besides talking about it on this channel
[20:51] <tonyyarusso> Would you mind if we did?
[20:52] <gouki> tonyyarusso: No, not at all
[20:52] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[20:52] <LjL> gouki also, can you please give the bot a more meaningful ident than "bot"... "ubuntustats" probably doesn't fit, but "ustats" or something
[20:53] <tonyyarusso> !ircstats is <reply> Fun statistics about some Ubuntu IRC channels are available at http://www.ubuntuircstats.org/.  LoCo team leaders can also request to have their channel stats collected.
[20:53] <ubotu> I'll remember that, tonyyarusso
[20:54] <tonyyarusso> gouki: do you list the LoCo ones elsewhere, or has noone asked?
[20:54] <LjL> !logs
[20:54] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[20:55] <LjL> !no logs is <reply> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[20:55] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[20:55] <LjL> !no ircstats is <reply> Fun statistics about some Ubuntu IRC channels are available at http://www.ubuntuircstats.org/ - LoCo team leaders can also request to have their channel stats collected.
[20:55] <LjL> tonyyarusso: better to avoid periods after URLs
[20:55] <tonyyarusso> (Note: !stats is taken by an internal Supybot function.)
[20:56] <LjL> (or any punctuation without a space ftm)
[20:56] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[20:56] <tonyyarusso> LjL: True.
[20:56] <LjL> tonyyarusso, it should work anyway
[20:56] <LjL> !stats is <alias> ircstats
[20:56] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[20:56] <LjL> !stats
[20:56] <ubotu> Fun statistics about some Ubuntu IRC channels are available at http://www.ubuntuircstats.org/ - LoCo team leaders can also request to have their channel stats collected.
[20:56] <tonyyarusso> LjL: I wasn't going to without checking with Sev* about whether he actually wanted that information available.
[20:57] <gouki> LjL: Working on it. tonyyarusso, no one asked
[20:57] <LjL> tonyyarusso: uh... what information?
[20:57] <tonyyarusso> gouki: Intriguing.  Care to make #ubuntu-us-mn the first then, just for giggles?  Not sure how much that impacts your system resources, so if it's a problem don't, but it could be cool.
[20:58] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, it is from the 50s
[20:58] <tonyyarusso> LjL: 14:48 <ubotu> I have 55 registered users with 30 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 2 admins.
[20:58] <gouki> tonyyarusso: Sure. I'm thinking about going with the first LoCo request. After a few I'll have to start ignoring request, cause otherwise, the VPS just won't be able to take it.
[20:58] <somerville32> Is the bot in #xubuntu, -devel, and -ofttopic ?
[20:59] <LjL> !forget stats
[20:59] <ubotu> I'll forget that, LjL
[20:59] <gouki> somerville32: Not on -offtopic
[20:59] <LjL> somerville32: it is
[20:59] <LjL> ah well not on x-offtopic no
[21:00] <tonyyarusso> gouki: where we you running the bot before btw?  Just a home machine?  I'd love to, but I can't seem to find someone easily that will allow IRC bots.  (Would prefer if I could make the shell account part free, since I am paying for web hosting now.)
[21:00] <gouki> tonyyarusso: VPSLink.com
[21:00] <LjL> tonyyarusso: free shell account allowing bots? hardly.
[21:00] <tonyyarusso> gouki: probably should add that one too, since the other two offtopics are included
[21:01] <gouki> tonyyarusso: Done
[21:02] <gouki> tonyyarusso: VPSLink.com is not expensive, and it's kinda cool for this kind of stuff
[21:03] <somerville32> How often do the pages get updated?
[21:03] <gouki> somerville32: I'm going to configure cron to run irssistats every 5 minutes
[21:03] <somerville32> Can you run it now? :D
[21:03] <gouki> Generating all the .html from the different channels
[21:03] <gouki> somerville32: Heheh. Sure
[21:03] <ompaul> gouki, given the sheer numbers 10 mins is more like sane
[21:04] <ompaul> gouki, so it gets to rest
[21:04] <ompaul> :)
[21:04] <gouki> somerville32: Done
[21:04] <gouki> ompaul: yeah, probably not a bad idea :)
[21:04] <tonyyarusso> gouki: what timezone is the server in?
[21:04] <gouki> tonyyarusso: Don't know. I configured it to UTC
[21:05] <tonyyarusso> gouki: ah, that's what I really meant anyway
[21:06] <gouki> :)
[21:07] <gouki> guys, just so I can organize irssistats conf file, do you think all the main ubuntu channels are there?
[21:07]  * tonyyarusso goes to look in his logs directory
[21:11] <tonyyarusso> gouki: +1 and -locoteams are the other potentially interesting ones I can think of.
[21:13] <gouki> tonyyarusso: Good idea! I'll take care of it.
[21:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ck omar..
[21:16] <gouki> GTG. I'll come back after dinner and hopefully finish everything up.
[22:02] <PriceChild> Pelo has been removed from #ubuntu access by his request.
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> Okay.
[22:03] <somerville32> PriceChild, Do you need to update the factoid?
[22:03] <PriceChild> somerville32, no.
[22:09] <PriceChild> !no ops-#ubuntu-us is <reply> Help! nixternal. pleia2. atoponce. etank. Zelut or jono!
[22:09] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[22:10] <LjL> uhm i knew that they used . rather than , for *decimal numbers* in the US
[22:10] <LjL> but i didn't think that applied to lists of ops as well
[22:12] <ompaul> hahahaha
[22:12]  * ompaul buys LjL a nice tea
[22:13] <ikonia> s/nice/ice
[22:13] <ikonia> that is the usa style tea
[22:13] <PriceChild> LjL, whoops... my right hand too far right
[22:13] <PriceChild> !no ops-#ubuntu-us is <reply> Help! nixternal, pleia2, atoponce, etank, Zelut or jono!
[22:13] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[22:14] <ompaul> some data standards would say that there should be no commas in the list
[22:14] <ompaul> others would want one for each
[22:15] <LjL> no thanks, i'd rather have nice but not ice
[22:15] <LjL> it's already cold enough
[22:15] <LjL> drop table ompaul;
[22:16] <ompaul> haha
[22:16] <ompaul> oooch my toe
[22:16] <tonyyarusso> Regardless, I really hate having commas between the rest, but not after Zelut.
[22:17] <LjL> tonyyarusso: heretic.
[22:17] <tonyyarusso> LjL: It introduces grouping ambiguity in multi-word list elements that include joining words.
[22:17] <PriceChild> well you're American :P
[22:17] <PriceChild> We english has proper grammer.
[22:18] <PriceChild> and spelling
[22:19] <PriceChild> #ubuntu is looking odd..
[22:20] <LjL> tonyyarusso: (to (really remove) ambiguity) ((you would (have to)) use (a ((much more) sophisticated) (parenthesizing system)))
[22:20] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Agreed.
[22:20]  * tonyyarusso sometimes actually does that
[22:20] <LjL> PriceChild: thank you for telling us everything's normal
[22:20] <LjL> mc44 does that too
[22:20] <PriceChild> Well <AcidBurn>, then <linuxfree> and a few other joins...
[22:21] <tonyyarusso> LjL: But that's no excuse for unnecessarily adding a layer of confusion that has no other reason to be there than that you felt like it.
[22:22] <LjL> tonyyarusso: and perhaps the fact that "," is a separator and "or" is also a separator, so redundant separators don't make much sense. also the somewhat vestigial, but still not negligible, fact that a comma is/was used to indicate a pause in speech, pause which is not pronounced (at least by me) between the last two elements of a list separated by "and" or "or".
[22:24] <tonyyarusso> LjL: really?  I totally put a pause there.
[22:25] <LjL> tonyyarusso: well perhaps that might explain why americans tend to like the comma there.
[22:27] <somerville32> It is optional but I generally put it
[22:28] <somerville32> One, two, three, and four.
[22:42] <PriceChild> kbrooks, wols, can I help you?
[22:43] <nalioth> upgrading to gutsy, brb
[22:55] <ompaul> mneptok, I see RMS and TDR are having fistycuffs on a mailing list near openbsd
[23:14] <tomaw> ompaul: oh?
[23:14] <PriceChild> kbrooks, wols, can I help you?
[23:14] <ompaul> mneptok,  tomaw, it is painful: http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tt14256924r0.html
[23:15] <kbrooks> PriceChild, if you dont want me here i'll go
[23:16] <kbrooks> PriceChild?
[23:18] <ardchoille> Back in a bit. Time to image my partitions.