[03:28] <zul> damn too bad dendrobates is not here
[03:33] <ScottK> Why is that?
[03:36] <zul> ottawa beat atlanta in hockey rather baldy
[03:37] <ScottK> Ah.
[03:37] <ScottK> Hockey in Atlanta is just plain wrong anyway.
[03:37] <zul> it is
[03:53] <antdedyet> == ScottK
[03:54] <antdedyet> Canada has more ice to practice on
[03:55] <antdedyet> at least that's how I attempted to comfort the Georgia LoCo :)
[04:03] <ScottK> Or, put slightly differently, hockey in Canada is not un-natural.
[15:40] <lamont> soren: looking at the postfix doc (yes, finally).
[15:40] <lamont> 1.3.2: what's diff between that and using the snakeoil-cert?
[17:57] <jason442> hello
[17:58] <jason442> I'm looking to setup a homeserver and really want to use ubuntu as my OS. However, I'm really having a hard time getting SlimServer working...anyone have any experiance getting SlimServer to work?
[17:58] <somerville32> What is SlimServer?
[17:58] <jason442> Its for the Squeezebox by Slim Devices... its a device that streams music wirlessly to your stereo
[17:59] <somerville32> !slimserver
[17:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slimserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:59] <somerville32> !info slimserver
[17:59] <ubotu> slimserver: Streaming Audio Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.3.0-5 (gutsy), package size 1277 kB, installed size 6068 kB
[17:59] <jason442> ok
[18:00] <jason442> I may have to just use windowsXP for my server OS
[18:00] <jason442> :(
[18:00] <jason442> Anyone recommend a good windows channel for setting up a home server?
[18:00] <jason442> I might get kicked for mentioning windoes in this channel :)
[18:01] <jason442> alrighty, well... this is a kick'n channel....cya
[18:02] <zul> uh ok
[19:51] <sommer> lamont: did you mean me?
[19:56] <sommer> lamont: that's a good point I don't think there is a difference.
[19:57] <sommer> lamont: is the snake-oil cert installed with Postfix or Dovecot?
[20:52] <lamont> postfix Depends: ssl-cert --> snakeoil
[20:52] <lamont> and it currently auto-configs snakeoil on new installs (for currently== breezy and later or some such)
[20:55] <sommer> lamont: cool, does postfix use it for tls automatically?
[20:56] <lamont> somewhat
[20:57] <lamont>         if [ -f /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key ]; then
[20:57] <lamont>             cat /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.tls >> main.cf
[20:57] <lamont>         fi
[20:57] <lamont> and that file has:
[20:57] <lamont> # TLS parameters
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_use_tls=yes
[20:57] <lamont> smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
[20:57] <lamont> smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
[20:57] <lamont> # See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for
[20:57] <lamont> # information on enabling SSL in the smtp client.
[20:57] <somerville32> !pastebin
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[20:57] <lamont> so if ssl-cert is installed and configured before postfix configures, then you get tls by default
[20:57]  * lamont doesn't consider 400 chars to be a large text
[20:57] <sommer> lamont: gotcha
[20:58] <sommer> so from a base install if you do a apt-get install postfix you don't get ssl-cert?
[21:00] <sommer> the plan is to add modified install/config instructions once the dovecot sasl+postfix integration is done
[21:00] <sommer> that should tie in to the configuration done when using the tasksel options too
[21:01] <sommer> I'll add something about the snake-oil cert as well though
[21:04] <sommer> everything else look good?
[21:06] <sommer> we could also link to the self-signed cert portion of the apache section... I believe it's the same instructions
[21:09] <lamont> sommer: I don't know that there's a guarantee that ssl-cert
[21:09] <lamont> s postinst has run first.
[21:10] <sommer> okay, so we can just document it as an option along with a self-signed cert?
[21:11] <lamont> yeah
[21:11] <lamont> self-signed certs make postfix cry, anyway
[21:12] <sommer> hehe... I know how it feels sometimes they make me sad too
[21:12] <sommer> thanks lamont I'll adjust that part